From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - The Cruelty Of Gisele Fetterman And Jill Biden

Episode Date: March 3, 2023

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down to discuss the health issues facing Senator John Fetterman (D-PA), his wife, Gisele Fetterman's, decision to take her children on vacation while Senator Fetterman is in Walter Reed Medical Center, and why Rachel believes that Gisele pushed her husband to run for Senate despite medical concerns.  Later, Rachel and Sean talk about First Lady Jill Biden's role in her husband's presidency and the prospect of potential Democrats running in place of President Biden in 2024.  Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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beautiful Rachel Campos Duffy, who's here in her pajamas. I am. I'm in my pajamas most, well, I'm in my pajamas most well i'm in my pajamas most days right unless i have to go to work but honestly this is a snow day so we got up in the morning and i actually made cookies with the kids after breakfast and they went out to play in the snow and we told them we're doing our podcast you can't come back in valentina was sick this morning which doesn't go well with our son but um she, but she's a little under the weather. But the others are outside playing in the snow.

So we're going to keep this podcast a little short because they can't come in until we're done. That's right. Remember when we were young and our parents would say, go outside and you can't come back in? I mean, that's what it used to be like. So we're kind of old school today. They can't come back in to get their cookies until we're done with the podcast. And this is a really interesting podcast, Sean. I'm going to title our podcast, The Cruelty of Giselle Fetterman and Jill Biden. And I think...

Tell me more. Well, it is cruel. So let's start with the latest news on the Fetterman situation. So as you all know, Senator Fetterman now beat Dr. Oz. And many people were surprised because he was clearly not doing well. He had a stroke. He seemed out of it, couldn't speak. Everyone knew he just wasn't up for the task. Well, so here's the deal. He had a stroke. I disagree with this politics, but I feel bad for anyone who has a stroke. And he was having a difficult time functioning on the campaign trail. And the skill set that you use as a senator is communication. Right. You talk to people. And and we famously saw in the campaign that he had a hard time processing words.

And so he would actually have to have almost in real time them transcribed so he could read them and then respond. So he was having real issues. And during the campaign is when we started to see Giselle Fetter The one who really was interested in her husband winning this seat, despite clearly probably needing to take a break, was Giselle. And I remember talking about it with some of my girlfriends. I know what it's like to be the political spouse. And I also know what it's like to just be a wife. If Sean had had a stroke, the last thing I

would want Sean to do, um, is run for office. Um, I would have pulled Sean out. Um, I would have found, you know, another situation, but I care more about you, Sean, than I care about the seat. And, um, and I get it. You put a lot of, you invest a lot into these races, but in the end, all you have is your health. And so in the end, John Fetterman wins. He goes to Washington. And predictably, I think, he falls into a deep depression. He must feel alone.

Why did his family, you know, push him to do this, continue to push him to do this? He's clearly in over his head. He's struggling. He's having a hard time. And now he's been put into Walter Reed Hospital with clinical depression, and he's still battling the other ailments and sicknesses that he has from having had a stroke. And it sounds like someone may be trying to come in. But a couple points off of what you just mentioned, Rachel. So first off, when you put your heart and soul into a campaign,

John Fetterman wanted to be a senator. He actually ran through the primary, won the primary, and then had the stroke. And Democrats were in a bit of a conundrum. Do they take him up? But then could they replace him with a different Democrat? Didn't Giselle always seem a little more interested in him being a senator than John? He was, he wasn't, he was a mayor. He was, he was a mayor. He, he ran for governor as well, I believe. He was lieutenant governor at one point, right? He was lieutenant governor. So,

no, he's had political ambitions, but to your point, and again, I don't think it was her completely pushing him into politics. He wanted to be involved in politics. However, when you have an ailment that afflicts you, you very quickly realize what are the priorities in life. And hopefully, even though I might say my whole life, my whole identity is tied up in I'm a politician. You'd go, Hey, hold on a second. That's not your life. Your life is your family, your kids, you need to get better. And by the way, you almost died. And now your kids aren't going to get to see you because you're in DC all the time. And they're at school in Pennsylvania and we love you. And we love you more than we care

about the seat. And I think that's what he probably wanted to hear and he didn't and then predictably fell into clinical depression. And he's in Walter Reed. So what does Giselle do when her husband falls into clinical depression? She goes into the hospital and gets the room right next door to him. And says, I'm never leaving your side, honey, because I love you and I'm going to be right here with you every single day oh no oh no giselle decided that what she needs to do is go on vacation with the kids because her house was surrounded by the media she says after her husband went into walter reed and so she gathered up those kids she put them in

the car and she took them up to niagara falls and then eventually up to Canada to go on a vacation. So let's unpack this a little bit, okay? Because I can understand, look, the kids are stressed out. There's a lot of stuff going on. There's even more media attention now since dad was in office because he's not doing well. There could be issues going on with the kids psychologically, mentally, emotionally, whatever. And so she wants to take them on vacation. She's also claimed she's really concerned because there's so much attention and media, as she says in her tweet, the media is circling her house.

So she takes them on vacation. What does she do? She documents it on her social media. And what does she do? She documents it on her social media. That doesn't look like somebody who's trying to protect her kids from the media and from that attention. That looks like somebody who's sort of curating her image for other people, in my opinion. Like, look, what do I know? I'm not in her marriage.

I'm not in her family. But from the outside, this looks very insincere. I'm not in her family, but from the outside, this looks very insincere. And I guess I, I just can't, as a spouse, I just can't imagine you in the hospital at Walter Reed depressed. By the way, he's not in because of the stroke he's in because he's depressed. And the answer is, I'm going to go on vacation with the kids and document it via my social media and show what a great time we're having and how we're just, and again, she uses, if you look at her tweets, it's just so liberal. I can't stand it. It's all this like self-care language that I can't stand. Marriage is for better and worse. And it's not about me at that moment. It's about you. You're

depressed. I'm having a hard time because I just don't think like that. So is this analogous to any other couple who says they want privacy, but then they expose their lives to the world? Yes. It's like Meghan and Harry, who, by the way, remember, I thought about that when you said that the sign that in the South Park where they're on a tour against the media and privacy and Meghan Markle is carrying a sign that says stop looking at us. Again, it's just like Giselle Fetterman. I'm leaving because the media is around my house, but I'm going to document this on social media and with my kids and everything else. So it shows this is all fake, right? Because you don't say I want privacy and then you expose your life.

Tell the media where you're at, what you're doing with your kids, where you're going for that public exposure. So the point is she's really not trying to get away from the media. What she's actually trying to do is position herself to the media as maybe a good mom, maybe someone who's trying to care for herself in the mental state of her children. She's doing a presentation, a package. Why would she be doing that? Because there's something going on, Sean. So if John Fetterman can't continue to serve in office... Until around... There's a dispute's a dispute about august 8th or august 12th but early august he has if he drops out before early august what happens so every so

every state is different but per the research that rachel has done if he drops out before uh the state in august there will be a special election in pennsylvania if he drops out after the state in august the governor can appoint. And so that's the threshold they're trying to get beyond. They're going to appoint post-August 8th or 12th or whatever. So Giselle here is packaging and presenting herself to make sure that she would take John's seat. The Fettermans continue to serve, right? And I want to take a step back. There's a history of that, too.

I mean, we saw, I think it was Sonny Bono when he died. His wife took over. I think there was another case, somebody who died with COVID maybe. John F. Kennedy held his seat for his brother, Teddy. Yeah. But here's what I think is important. I'm talking about spouses, though. I'm talking about, there is this thing where when the spouse, something happens to the spouse, a lot of, to one person, the spouse will sometimes take over. Was it in Mississippi or?

It was somewhere that it happened. I'm sorry for not knowing the name, but one of the newly elected members of Congress got COVID. Yeah, that's what I was talking about. Died, and then his wife ran in the special and won the seat. He died, and then his wife ran in the special and won the seat. But here's – I want to make a different point, which is because I do think when you run for office, it is sacrifice, and it is about service. Your family sacrifices, you sacrifice. Huge family sacrifices. And you make the sacrifice because you want to make people's lives better.

You want to serve people. And what I see from the Fettermans is – because I don't think John Fetterman can serve people. What Giselle and John are looking at is the people can serve me. If you give me this Senate seat, I'm getting served by you gifting me this position or electing me into this position. actually doing the work of good policy for the people that you represent, you would recognize, well, John Fetterman, because of his limitations, can't actually serve the people. If you can't serve them, you step up because you care about them more than you care about yourself.

And who thinks that over the last few months that he's been in office that he's been serving the people? He's clearly been battling his illnesses. He's been battling, you know, the effects of a stroke. He's been battling depression. He can't communicate. I'm sure that office is being run by the staff. There's no question in my mind about that. And so you're absolutely right. This has never been about service. And I believe that based on what I saw during the campaign, and I was watching Giselle Spetterman very closely. And I guess maybe political spouses, we kind of can see things and we kind of notice things. To me, it was very obvious that she knew this could happen, that her husband might not be able to finish this term and she was going to be able to step in. And I find that cruel. I find that unloving.

I find that a breakdown of your vows. I mean, you are not serving for better or worse. You are not, and by the way, you're not prioritizing the kids because again, I cannot emphasize it's why we ended up getting out. You know, it, know, it puts a strain on a family. Your family's already strained because your husband just had a stroke. And you think it's a good idea for him to run for office. There was a time where he could have dropped out and he didn't. So anyway. So just another point here.

If you think John Fetterman is a radical liberal, he's a conservative compared to his wife, Giselle. She's to the left of not just Fetterman, but of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. She is crazy town. She's one of the most liberal people you'll ever meet. Let me just put it in perspective,

Sean. You have a little extra time on your hands. You want to donate a little bit of time to charity. Make the world a better place. Make the world a better place. So what do you do? And you have thousands of charities that you could think of, right? You could serve veterans.

You could, you know, go serve at the soup kitchen. I mean, you can crochet little blankets for the homeless or whatever. Crochet. You could crochet baby hats for kids in the NICU. I remember when our daughter was in the NICU and she got a little crocheted baby hat from these sweet grandmas who were doing that. So how did Giselle Fetterman spend her time volunteering for her community? Oh, she donated her time to an abortion clinic.

Oh, yes. So that's the kind of person that Pennsylvania may get once, I believe, they're going to, this is what they're going to do. Look, they're going to try and get him out of this hospital somehow. They're going to slow walk this thing until August, pretending like John Fetterman is serving in office when he's not, and his staff is running it, or maybe Giselle is running it, who knows. when he's not and his staff is running it or maybe Giselle is running it.

Who knows? And they're going to wait until until then, because there's a far left governor in in Pennsylvania and he is going to appoint at least Giselle will be one of the number one number one or two contenders. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Light up Black Friday with Freedom Mobile and get 50 gigs to use in Canada, the U.S. and Mexico for just $35 a month for 18 months. Plus, get a one-time gift of five gigs of Roam Beyond data. Conditions apply. Details at freedommobile.ca. And so I guess the reason we're talking about this is,

I'll put another couple that has done the same thing. They're not the only ones. There are more Lady Macbeths out there. But you look at the state of the Bidens, and Rachel has talked about this a lot, about Jill Biden should see the mental state of her husband and make a decision to go, honey, listen, we've served this country well. They think that. We don't think that. I don't think so. I'm saying Jill Biden would say this to Jill. Let me rephrase. We've made the money we need to make from Hunter Biden and your brother and all your dirty deals in Ukraine and Russia.

The country has served us well. The country has served us well. We're now wealthy. We have a nice beach house. So now maybe we should go live our retirement in peace. Maybe go spend some time in DeSantis' Florida. But that's not what they've done. They're not doing that. They continue. Jill continues to push Joe out there. When, listen, she's been with him for a long time. She can see his mental failings. She can see that he's sliding, the decline. She saw that during the campaign. Again, he was in his basement. It was obvious during the campaign he was not up for this job, It was obvious during the campaign he was not up for this job, that he was not ready. She pushed him.

They did it. And now the country is suffering. And, well, it goes to, again, the same point as I made with the Fettermans, that if you care about the country – and, by the way, I disagree with the Bidens. I disagree with all the Democrats that would run in his place. But if you're a Democrat and you're the Bidens, you might say, I love America. That's in question to me. But I love America. That's in question to me, but I love America. Who's best to serve the country? And if it's not me, because I'm failing, I can't give a speech without saying my words. I can't find my way into the Oval Office. Or off a stage, or I shake hands with the air.

Invisible people. I need people showing me where to go in state events. If that's the case, Michael, maybe there's a different candidate that could serve the country better than me. Maybe it's Gavin Newsom. Maybe it's someone, and again, I disagree with that, but if you're a Democrat, you could think that serving the country could be done better by someone else, but that's not what they think. They think about power for themselves, for their family. What financial benefit will they get for their family if they continue to serve? It's not about what's best for America. It's about what's best for them. And it was not always like this. America was made up of people who did want to serve, did want to make the country a better place. It wasn't about them.

It was about others. And there's a ton of things I disagree with about the Kennedy family. But there was this idea of service that they had. And I disagree with their politics. But they were trying to serve the greater good, the greater community. And I disagreed with the policies when they served. But that was the backdrop of them giving their time. And with the Bidens, it's about the country serving them. Yeah. I often think like, so first of all, this past week, we saw

an interesting case with Jill and Joe where Joe is here in the United States and Jill is living her best life ever, right? She's in Kenya, and she's, by the way, she's giving sex ed talks to African teenagers, which I'm thinking, you know, how much do our kids love the sex ed talk? Not at all. Can you imagine these poor kids? It's like hard enough.

They're poor, and it's tough being poor in Africa, and then they have to have this woman come in and talk to them about sex ed. I mean, I just can't. The priorities. So they get one child to talk about sex ed. Yeah, I mean, seriously, it's unbelievable. But anyway, she thinks she's doing good out there, of course, pushing abortion and birth control on the third world.

Because, you know, the abortion mindset of these elitists are you know we don't want all those brown and black people having babies um so there she is in africa doing that and she gets asked by an african journalist is your husband running and she's like of course he is what part of that i mean why would you think he isn't running again and then a journalist and i think from abc interviews joe biden back home and says you, your wife says that you're running again. He's kind of like, I am? Oh, yeah, I guess I am. Whatever Jill says.

But it goes back to why would Jill want this? Yes, part of it is the money. Clearly, the Biden family has enriched themselves from the power that they've had. But I also have this theory. No proof of this. I'm just giving my theory. It's very obvious that the Obamas and the Bidens are not that close. And that I believe that Jill and felt a lot of the disdain from the Obamas. And I think this is her revenge, right? Running, running Joe. And I think that's why they're running even to the left of Obama. I think they wanted to be more transformational. I'll show you. It's why she's probably in Africa again to say I can do this, too, or better than you, Michelle Obama.

about Jill, just like it's really about Giselle. And it's not about the country. And our country isn't being served well by this. And our country isn't being served well by John Fetterman. And eventually Giselle representing the state of Pennsylvania. I do think there's conflict between the Bidens and the Obamas. And that conflict, I think, has brought Joe Biden to think, I'm going to be a more historic figure than Barack Obama, which means I have to run to the left. I have to be more progressive, more liberal, more socialist, more Marxist than even Obama. Obama set the table, but I'm going to be better and bigger than Obama, right? And so that's the backdrop. But think about the video. I don't know if we don't have this video for you. You might have seen it.

So the first time that Barack Obama goes to the White House when Joe Biden is the president. Oh, right. That video is great. They're both there together. And everyone in the White House, I think it was in the... It was in the East Room. East Room. I think you're right.

Everybody flocks around Barack Obama. It was like a rock star to touch him, love him, hug him, say hi to him. And Joe Biden, the president of the United States, was walking around looking for someone to talk to. So if you're Jill Biden, if you're Joe Biden, even though you're doing all these progressive things, people don't love you. They love Obama. They don't want you. They want Obama. That video speaks volumes about the way the Bidens are treated versus how the Obamas are treated. And to your point, I think it really irks Jill Biden, which means we're going to do it again. You're not going to get rid of us. We're not going to take no for an answer. You're going to love us. You're going to love us one day. It might not be in

the first two years, but we're going to get eight full years and eventually, damn it, you're going to show me love. Yeah. We're going to be the ones who fundamentally transform America. Which means destroy America. Yep. Joe Biden is going to complete the things that Barack Obama couldn't. But in the end, and I will repeat it, and I know that Jill Biden tried to get me fired from Fox News for saying this a long time ago, during the campaign or shortly after she was elected, he was elected, Joe Biden was elected. I said, I don't think, I think that Jill Biden did a disservice to her country in pushing her husband to do something that he's clearly not up for the job.

And I feel that way about Giselle. I think that both of them have shown a level of cruelty. And I can say this as a political spouse who's talked to many other political spouses about it. And all of us have said we would not have put our families and much less our husbands through this because we love them. And I want you to know if you are ever clinically depressed in a hospital, I will not go zip lining with the kids. I am going to be by your side until you get better. I love you. And I love you more than I love politics.

I love you more than I love whatever perks people think they get from office. It's just not worth it. In the end, it's about family. And I want our kids to be with you if you have a stroke. I don't want you to be in D.C. Let me make another point about I wanted to serve. And my service was family service, right? Yeah, we all sacrifice.

And once I won, I could have tried, we could have tried to hold on to this seat until I'm a frail old man. But I don't believe that's what our founders envisioned. I thought you're supposed to go serve. My family needed me. I had other priorities. Valentino was coming. And we left office.

And think about this. Paul Ryan served. He was almost 20 years. Became the speaker. And he left. John Boehner served, and he left. Trey Gowdy, we just had a big conversation. If you haven't seen that podcast,

that's a great podcast. Trey Gowdy talks about that decision. George Washington, I'm not comparing us to George Washington, but George Washington set the standard of saying... That would be Zelensky. You serve, and then you go back to your farm. Yes, yes.

But if you look, Nancy Pelosi has led the Democrat Party, I believe since the early 2000s. 20 years, one woman has led the Democrat Party in the minority. She became the speaker. Back to the minority, back to the speakership, and she's still in Congress. She won't leave. When did she get in, Sean? She's clinging on to power. I think it was inhip, and she's still in Congress. She won't leave. When did she get in, Sean? She's clinging on to power.

I think it was in 88 that she got in? Yeah. Or 92. They cling to power. Joe Biden is doing the exact same thing. He's clinging to power. He's given his whole life. I do really think it's him because I feel like his family is, his wife is pushing.

Or someone's not giving him an out. His wife should say, we're done, honey. But Joe Biden, when he was of sound mind, has run for the presidency multiple times. That's true. That's fair. He's wanted to become president. He was of sound mind when Barack Obama chose him as a running mate. He's wanted this.

But again, I do think you serve, and then you go do something else with your life. And Republicans, I think, have done a really good job of that. You want some people to stick around because you want institutional knowledge, but go in, serve, and get out. Democrats, I mean, Maxine Waters has been there forever. And what happens is when new members come in, they can't elevate into positions of leadership or chairmanships of committees because all these old dogs, this is – who they are is they're a member of Congress or they're a senator as opposed to – I think Republicans do a better job of saying, I am – I'm a man. I'm a husband. I'm a father. I'm a man of faith, and I get to serve my country. Their identity isn't consumed with, I'm a member of Congress, I'm a senator.

It's not. And again, that's one of the problems with the country, that you have people who are consumed with these titles and think they're lifetime positions, as opposed to giving to your country and then stepping aside and letting someone else give. Yeah. And I think the role of the spouse is interesting. Maybe I'm fascinated more because I was a political spouse for so many years, but I think the role of a spouse is to obviously be a support and a sounding board and an advisor, you know, and help kind of keep things going at home. Someone who can say that's a really bad idea. Yes, someone who can honestly say that's a bad idea. And I think in the case of Joe Biden and John Fetterman running, two people who are facing, you know, medical, mental decline that is apparent to, and who are not able to serve the way they should be able to serve

in such important positions. I don't think the people of Pennsylvania have been served at all since that man took office. I think the role of the spouse is really important. I think that's the thing I wanted to highlight today. And I think it's worth thinking about because in the next few months, you're going to see Giselle Fetterman continue to promote herself. And you're going to see this slow walking. The people of Pennsylvania are not going to get the choice to find another member of Congress. They're going to get an appointment from the top down, from the governor down. Giselle's going to be positioning herself to be that person. And I think it's not good for the people of Pennsylvania.

And, you know, just to take a comment on John Fetterman, when you're put in a situation where it's high stress, you have to have high performance, and you can't actually get over the bar, you can't actually do the job, it's really stressful. get over the bar. You can't actually do the job. It's really stressful when you can't accomplish what you know you're supposed to accomplish because he has limitations. And no doubt that would make him depressed. Again, if he was at home taking care of himself, he wouldn't be depressed, but you put him in the U.S. Senate where he can't comprehend what people, when people are speaking to him, he can't comprehend what's being said on the Senate floor. You'd have to have some way to read it off someone transcribing what's being said. Really stressful for him. You can't have, it's hard to have meetings with constituents. How do you heal when you're that stressed out? I mean, part of recovering from a stroke,

I imagine, is taking it easy. I mean, I saw how high stress it was for you when you were in Congress. I think I got all this gray hair from kids in Congress. Well, every 15 minutes. Now, either these meetings aren't taking place, they're being held by young staffers who are in their 20s and 30s who shouldn't be taking every single one of these meetings or making decisions for them, or he's in these meetings and he's not recovering. He's not taking the time that he needs to address his house. And again, this is the part where the spouse comes in. Again, watch her tweets that she puts out. A lot of talk about self-care, but let's talk about care for your husband.

What I'm happy to know is that Rachel, first off, would say, you can't run. Get out. And the second thing is, if I was in the hospital depressed, she's not going to go ziplining. You're going to come and see me and try to lift my spirits. I'm going to have a cot brought right up next to you. Thank you. And I'm going to be right there until you feel better. I appreciate that.

I love you. That's why I love you, too. Yeah. It's a great podcast. Sorry. Spouses matter. Spouses matter. Spouses matter.

Especially when they have the highest positions in government in our country. Absolutely. Good spouses, good leaders, they matter. And we have a deficit of that right now in America. God help us. All right. Listen, thanks for joining us on our podcast. If you like From the Kitchen Table, you can rate, review, subscribe, wherever you get your podcasts.

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