From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - The Duffys: Harrison Butker & the NFL's Anti-Christian Bigotry

Episode Date: May 18, 2024

After Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker gave a commencement speech at Benedictine College, a private Catholic university in Atchison, Kansas, the internet had quite a bit to stay. In response to the heat he faced for voicing his traditional values, the NFL released a statement clarifying Butker's views "are not those of the NFL as an organization," saying, "The NFL is steadfast in our commitment to inclusion, which only makes our league stronger.” With many thoughts on the matter, the Duffys are here to share why they believe understanding the context of Butker's commencement speech is crucial before judging it and whether they think the NFL's statement was appropriate.   Follow Sean & Rachel on X: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Hey Sean, we're back. We're kind of at the kitchen table. But not really. Not really. If you hear cars going by, it's because we're actually doing this podcast in a car because

we're on our way to a country concert. We're going to hear Morgan Wallman tonight, and we're in the car. Yes, we are. So it is going to be fun. It's going to be a fun night and a fun day for a podcast. And so, yeah, let's... It totally whacked our fun. It's going to be a fun night and a fun day for a podcast. And so, yeah. It totally whacked our schedule. Kind of crazy.

But we're here and we're going to do it because we absolutely love this topic. Before we get into our topic, just every husband knows what it's like to have a wife who's going somewhere special. Or what they would say is a concert. And how men wait. And then wait and then wait some more and wait again. Um, and we just become patient over time. Uh, sometimes less patient than other times,

maybe less today, less patient today. So there's going to be a little tension in the podcast as we were a little late to this one, but that's okay. I'm looking forward to a fun night with you anyway. I am too. But we thought about

maybe using an old podcast because I was running late. We thought about going back to some Q&A because we had some Q&As that were sent in. But we love this topic so much. We blew out the Q&A. I insisted that we do this even if we have to do it from the car because

both of us are actually totally fascinated with this topic of the kicker Harrison Butker. Yeah. Kansas City. Yeah. Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker goes to Benedictine College and agrees to give Catholic College. Yep. Gives the commencement address. And I'd read a number of articles about it, but you're like, listen, you probably told me six times I have to listen to the speech.

And I bet a lot of the comments from the articles that you're reading. From the peanut gallery. From the peanut gallery are people who did not listen to the speech in its entirety. Because if you're just listening to a clip here or there this speech is deep it it is about the context that it's in including the context of where it's being delivered which is at a catholic university but rachel um if we haven't learned anything um you can't be a traditional catholic at a catholic university and talk about talk about Catholic principles and think that you're going to come out of that unscathed because the Internet has lost its mind. Well, so is the NFL. And that's that's really the bad guy in this story, Sean, is the NFL.

So let me let me just give you guys just a little bit of context. First of all, first thing, if you haven't listened to this speech, it's gone viral. And when you're done with our podcast, I challenge you to go and listen to the speech in its entirety. It's 20 minutes out of your time. It's just 20 minutes. It's a fantastic speech. I don't know if this guy, if Buckner is really skilled at writing speeches, or he had someone help him, but it is so well put together yeah and actually i love his delivery um yeah it's very mad he's very like sort of matter of fact there's no there's no pop and circumstance yeah there's no theatrics here he's just he's just delivering some hard truths and he talked on everything from abortion and we're going to play some clips for you by the way um we talked about abortion he talked about the role of women and the lies women have been told

through the feminist movement, the role of men. He talked about hookup culture. He talked about, you know, the role of fathers in communities and in their own families lives. And he talked about it all through the prism of being a very conservative traditionalist he's actually a traditional mass latin mass uh parishioner so he he also talked about the latin mass which as you know the fbi loves that topic he's on the fbi he's definitely on the watch at the end of this um he's on the nfl watch list and now he's also on the fbi watch list he refers to it as tlm the latin mass when you're listening to this speech when you hear tlm um that's gonna be my new acronym the latin mass tlm so he talked about all those things sean

and the nfl put out a statement um and we want to get i'm going to get to that statement in a second but go ahead and say what you're gonna yeah so. Yeah. So what I want to do is one of the most controversial aspects of his speech was directed towards women that were graduating. And we want to play that clip for you and talk about some of the reaction that he's gotten. Take a listen to this. How many of you are sitting here now about to cross this stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career? Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I would venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. So that's the controversy. So it's interesting, Sean.

I heard that and I was like, what's the problem? I'm going to be honest. Our daughter, Evita, no shrinking violet, solidly in the Gen Z generation. And a solid Catholic. And a solid Catholic. And she said, look, I get what he's saying. I love the speech. Love the speech.

Yeah, she absolutely loved the speech. I love the speech. Love the speech. Yeah, she absolutely loved the speech, but said, I do wonder if that was right for him to say that at a graduation ceremony, because she felt like all these girls were about to get their degree. And they are excited about getting their degree and they are excited about going into the workforce. And she felt like that it was kind of like time and place and sort of, I guess she didn't like it. I, as a woman who, by the way, I have two degrees. I have a bachelor's. I have a master's.

I was an at-home mom for 14 years. I didn't take that bad at all. My degrees were great. They actually, I think, helped me be a better mom. So I didn't feel like staying home or getting married or being excited about getting married or or even valuing marriage and children as the number one thing in your life which is what i think i do even though i have a career right now um doesn't mean that i i didn't see the conflict but maybe women of a younger generation like ibita kind of felt that way so i think people are hearing this wrong. So you're talking about their careers, their jobs, and their promotions.

But the thing they're most excited about is their families and their kids and their husbands. Their future kids. Their future kids. And I look at that and go, if you actually listen to what a lot of women will say today. Especially in a Catholic college. They will talk about their desire to find love to find a spouse to have a family now that doesn't mean you can't have a career and he said that he said let's go back because he said that he said how many of you are sitting

here now about to cross the stage and are thinking about all the promotions and titles you are going to get in your career. Some of you may go on to lead successful careers in the world, but I'd venture to guess that the majority of you are most excited about your marriage and the children you will bring into this world. He didn't say grab that degree and go back to the farm, you know, and, you know, have babies and be pregnant. Or renounce your degree. This was a waste of time. He didn't say that.

But I think he was acknowledging what the human heart yearns for, which is connection and a family. And so I, too, didn't find that offensive. And again, I think if you look at it through a certain prism where we're ready to be offended at every turn and read into comments instead of the actual words that were said, you get the misperception. Well, part of the confusion, I think, has come from the NFL. So let me read you the statement from the NFL, because they were really quick to distance themselves. It's by Jonathan Bean. He's the NFL Senior Vice President and Chief Diversity and Inclusion Officer. And he said, Harrison Butker gave a speech in his personal capacity. His views are not those of the NFL as an organization. The NFL is steadfast in our commitment to inclusion, which only makes our league stronger.

Now, Sean, again, this commencement address was not given at Yale. It wasn't given at Yale. It wasn't given at Harvard. It was given at Benedictine College, a fairly conservative Catholic university. And this speech, whether you like it or not, whether you have things to quibble with it or not, is 100% Catholic worldview. There is not one thing he said in this speech, whether you're offended or not, that is not in line with Catholic teaching and dogma. And so when the NFL comes out and says,

we don't like this, or this doesn't represent us, what they're basically saying is they don't have room for catholics in their league that's essentially what they're saying and my problem with it is they have room for everything in their league this is the league that allows people to kneel during this national anthem this is the league that painted BLM on the field during the Summer of Love when BLM was burning down our cities and causing $20 billion of damage and death and destruction across our cities. They are tolerant of everything, but they aren't tolerant of this. of this. So you mentioned they're not tolerant of Catholics, but there's many just straight-up Christians, especially evangelical Christians who share all these points of view. I think one of the greatest offenses of the speech for the NFL and liberals was that he's a pro-lifer too. So if

you're a pro-lifer, the NFL is not inclusive if you are someone of faith. If you're someone who, again, promotes BLM, if you're someone who is pro-LGBTQ, they're all about you. And that's what burns me, that they come out and say, I mean, the chief diversity officer of the NFL is going to make a statement that's contrary to diversity. And we're supposed to accept that, accept this lie that everyone's welcome in the NFL. Listen, there are millions of Catholics in this country, millions of Christians in this country, millions of pro-lifers in this country. And the NFL is saying, your views have no place in the NFL. Yeah. And I think what it speaks to, Sean, at a much grander level, and I do want to

get into some of the things he said about life and marriage, I think, and the role of men and women and fathers and mothers, because I think that's actually the most interesting part of his speech. But before we move on to that, I want to say that this has a lot to do with the double standards that we see in this country. We've been talking a lot about the fact that there is not equal justice, there is not equal treatment. So, you know, you think about how, you know, pro-lifers today are, you know, getting the book thrown at them, while people who break the law even beat up police officers are get out free you look at the way donald trump and everyone who supported him on

his team who's also facing legal troubles are being treated versus the way joe biden is being treated the way the fbi goes after catholics for example and pro-lifers and people who stand up against gender ideology and they turn their eye they turn their eye on you know protesters um on liberal protesters on campus i think that you know we seem to have again tolerance for everything tolerance for everything except conservatism except especially religious conservatives. And what I find interesting in this story as well is as some have come out and chastised him and tried to shame him, what's happened is his jersey has absolutely spiked. His jersey and his number for Kansas City has spiked in sales nationwide,

which shows you the NFL is placing their criticism in a misguided bucket. I want to talk about... You're absolutely right. I mean, listen, more people probably agree with Harrison Betker than they do with

the, for example, whatever the DEI officer of the NFL is pushing on the fans. I think Travis Kelsey is the only other Kansas City player that has jersey sales now higher than Butker. But can I bring up another portion of the speech? We have a lot of help from Taylor Swift. Those are Taylor's sales. Yeah, those are Taylor's.

I didn't hear his speech. Can I point out another part of the speech that I thought was really touching, Rachel? It's when Bucker talked about how he met his wife in middle school band class. Let's play that clip. I'm beyond blessed with the many talents God has given me, but it cannot be overstated that all of my success is made possible because a girl I met in band class back in middle school would convert to the faith, become my wife, and embrace one of the most important titles of all, homemaker. So what I love about this is how emotional he gets talking about meeting his wife, her conversion, how important she is in his life. And as wildly successful as he is in the NFL, how much money he makes in the NFL. He talks about what the priority of his life is, which is her, his family, his kids.

But most important is his faith. We were kind of jokey today because, okay, so I work, as everyone knows, I work on Fox and Friends Week, and I told Sean, I said, if you made NFL money, I'd be a homemaker too. I didn't laugh at that. You didn't laugh at that. By the way, I want to respond to what you're saying because I think it's really important. First of all, when I was an at-home mom for 14 years, one of the things I really did love about you, Sean, is you did come home and say, thank you for staying home with your kids. And it is really hard.

You know, the feminist movement has done a lot to demean the role of women who choose to work from the home and dedicate themselves entirely to their husbands or their families or children. And by the way, we also talked about if you've ever been in the house of a woman who doesn't care about her home, it's just not pleasant. There is something that women do that's very unique. Some men can do it, but women sort of seem to have a knack at it. I cannot. Sean Duffy does not have that knack.

I do not have a knack at it. I cannot. Sean Duffy does not have that knack. I do not have a knack. And that is, you know, to create a home, to take a house, but to make a home. And that's a very special thing. And so I think the feminist movement has done a lot to demean that. And I think there are a lot of women, now you see women going all the way

to the other side of these trad wives to, you know, sort of fetishize it. But there's this happy medium, I think, of where you, you know, you can take care of your home and dedicate yourself to your family in that way without necessarily, you know, giving up who you are as a person or being subjugated to your husband. I don't think he's talking about that. I look at our own lives and it's just, it's a journey, right?

I mean, when we first got married, you worked and I stayed home. And then, you know, things, then I kind of got part-time work. And then, you know, it just, it ebbs and flows. And I think most families are like that. And wives who are, especially wives who are educated, can respond to the needs of the family, speaking um uh depending on on on whatever season of their lives i mean when you ran for congress sean we took on a lot of debt and and that's when so that you could quit your job and complete and win that race and that debt was a burden for us and the way we decided to relieve that burden was for me to pick up some part time work, which I did.

And I think a lot of families are flexible in that way. Obviously, Miss Butker doesn't need to work. Her husband makes, I'm presuming, a lot of money as an NFL kicker. But so I think that there's a lot of just sort of overreaction to that. You mentioned the phrase subjugation or the word subjugation. And that if you listen to the speech, what you hear is a lot of emotion and love for his wife, the role that she plays in their family and in his life. Again, it sounds like she is the backbone of keeping the focus of what this family is and what's important in his life. Again, it sounds like she is the backbone of keeping the focus of what this family is and what's important in their lives.

And I think what's so remarkable here is sometimes people, oftentimes people, can get jobs and careers and they think they're all that in a bag of chips. And that's the most important thing in their life. And here, it doesn't happen very often, but this is an example of someone who is very successful in his career, but he's trying to be successful in his family, in his marriage. And it sounds like he is, but what a great testament, what a great example that

is about what really is important in life. What is success in life? Is it the career or is it the family? And he's saying, though I have this professional success, this career success, I'm focused on this other success, which is the family and the wife, which I think is such a great message today. It is a great message. It's a message you don't hear very often. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Jason and the House, the Jason Chaffetz podcast. podcast dive deeper than the headlines and the party lines as i take on american life politics and entertainment subscribe now on foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you download podcasts and i would say this too sean there's a lot of emphasis on

what he said about women but he had a lot to say about men we had a lot to say about the church as well the men in the church. Yes, he did. He didn't hold any punches. I mean, he talked about what's happened inside the church and how shepherds have led their flocks astray. I think he made a comment about how they'll have priests who are dressing themselves up like they're dogs. And they're putting those, you know. Putting their dogs in costumes. Then they're putting that out on social media, in their bulletins and listen some really really weird stuff and they've they've

they've gone astray um and yeah he had harsh words for the church but he also had a message for men i mean he literally he had a message about being the father of uh you know the leader in their homes and how important that is he He talked about masculinity, what the culture is doing to masculinity in terms of deeming it toxic. And I thought what I gathered from it wasn't that he was in some sort of like dominant relationship over his wife. What I gathered was that there was a lot of complementarity in that relationship, that he was doing his role, she was doing hers.

He's in a partnership. hers that they were in a partnership yeah he's in a partnership absolutely i think the real ire um the real feathers that he ruffled were about abortion that always ruffles feathers and lgbtq that's right and that's why it doesn't surprise me that the statement came from the DEI officer at the NFL. Who knew that the NFL needed a DEI officer? But they have one. And he's out there monitoring the speech of conservatives. I'm sure I'm sure he's probably not that worried about any of the liberal guys out there speaking. But, boy, he's got his finger on the pulse, making sure you know conservative and listen they've got to make

an example out of this guy sean they have got to make an example out of this guy they got to make sure that not they don't have too many more nfl players out there um by the way we know an nfl an ex-nfl player who minces no words um one jack brewer jack brewer i'm dying to hear i i actually pitched to have him come on and talk on on uh talk to us on fox and friends tomorrow and and i hope he does because he's somebody who will understand the kind of heat that this kicker is under at this moment. I am happy to say that he has had some support from members of his team. Chris Jones, a former wide receiver, and his teammate Chris Jones and former wide receiver Cole Beasley all had something, you know, backed him up.

In the case of Jones, said on on social media on Twitter on X he said I love you my brother so he's letting him know I got your back another one Beasley who's retired from the NFL he retired last year he had a short stint with the New York Giants and he said, I believe on Fox and Friends. He said, well, I can only speak from my own experience, which is I've had the most incredible mom who had the ability to stay home and be with us as kids growing up. And I understand that there are many women out there who can't make that decision. But for me in my life, I know it was really formative in shaping me and my siblings um by the way in the nfl they're not unicorns it's not a unicorn league there are there are

atheists in the league there are evangelical christians in the league there are catholics in the league um and so the the statement separating I'm sorry, Sean. I misspoke. That quote was actually from Gracie Hunt, the daughter of the chief CEO, Clark Hunt. So I apologize. I got that quote wrong. What was that quote again? She said, I can only speak from my own experience, which is I've had the most incredible mom who had the ability to stay home with us, blah, blah, blah.

I've had the most incredible mom who had the ability to stay home with us, blah, blah, blah. That was actually from the daughter of, that's Gracie Hunt, the daughter of the chief's CEO. By the way, they're wildly wealthy. Yes. What you're seeing, again, we've talked about this before, but something, because there's been such an assault and attack on masculinity and men standing up and saying what they think. It's a little, it's tangential. But that's why so many young men are going to conservative, truly male masculine podcasters. Because they want to get a dose of masculinity. They may not see it elsewhere online.

They may not see it in their schools. They may not see it in their schools. They may not see it in their homes. They call it the manosphere. The manosphere is alive and well. And this was just a sliver of the manosphere with the Catholic tinge to it. Which I think, even if young men, a lot of men don't agree with it, they agree with how bold it was for him to stand up. And because he talks about Catholics,

Christians have been counter-cultural since the beginning. Yeah. And we're counter-cultural today. And I think so many, and so many young men see themselves as counter-cultural as they try to reclaim their masculinity. By the way, can I say one other thing? I've always wanted to grow a beard.

Because the reason is you grew a mustache and you looked like Saddam Hussein when you did. I'm just not, I'm just saying. Now my beard has gotten grayer and so it doesn't really look that great, but it's like there's something about facial hair that's masculine.

And Butker has some great facial hair. It's not gray like mine, but I had to commend him, not just in the speech, but the facial hair that he wore. You like the facial hair. I do. One day when I'm on a fox and I'm on my farm, you know, with my sheep and my cows and my goats. Then you can grow it out. I'm going to grow it out.

All right. We'll call you Moses. Thank you. So it's good to see, by the way, I'm glad I corrected that quote, because it's good to see that the chiefs, the owners of the chiefs are backing him. And that's interesting, right? I mean, they've got two very different points of view in their players. You brought up Travis Kelsey, Sean. Travis Kelsey, definitely, you know, on the liberal side, he was getting.

Yeah, we do know that. A hundred percent, we know that. Also, he was kidding. Yeah, we do know that. 100% we know that. Also, he was big back, sir. Yes, he's a big liberal. And he wouldn't be with Taylor Swift if he wasn't. And then you have this guy. And again, that's the whole point, right? You can have both of those guys on that team.

And the whole point, I don't see the nfl distancing themselves from travis kelsey's point of view there's no need to distance themselves from harrison's point of view these are legitimate points of view and his point of view as i said is 100 catholic there's nothing in there so listen and again um when you look at nfl um ratings, so, again, it's not just the community or the state in which they reside. They'll pull a national audience for their games and have loyalty to team from halfway across the country, right? There's a lot of Green Bay Packer fans all around the country, not just in Wisconsin. And the same thing for Kansas City. But Kansas City is a fairly, like many cities, a very liberal place,

but Kansas city, Missouri and Kansas city, Kansas, they're in Missouri in Kansas. Yeah. Yeah. It's right. And so smarter owners to come out and go,

well, I don't know. I like to have a mom in my house when I was growing up. I was a way not to say, I agree with everything you said, but to, to, to know they're showing more than like tolerance for them.

They're backing them up. They're saying, we got you. You didn't offend us. And that's the way to do it. I want to talk, Sean, because again,

one of the things he said, and you know, we hear this, I've said it before. Maybe people are jarred hearing a guy say the lies being told to women. And so he's talking, he's taking a direct stab or hit at feminism so feminism is lied to women in so many ways the way that he was bringing

up was this idea that you you know your worth is in your job in your career gerald sandberg you know gave her commencement address um famously she told the graduate girls, the women who were graduating, she said, put your foot on the gas pedal. Career wise, she was talking. And don't don't let go. Like, don't let up. I personally think that's horrible advice to give women. And if you follow Gerald Sandberg's advice, you'd probably wake up at 40 going, oh, no, my, you know, biological clock has been going, it's been on fire alarm here for the last five years. I don't have a husband. I,

I may not be able to get pregnant. I mean, you know, it's just more difficult to get pregnant for the first time at that age. So there's a lot of lies being told. There's a lot of lies being told to women especially about the abortion movement and he was not shy about that again he's touching a third rail not only are you not allowed to challenge the abortion ideology in this country but to be a man and talk about it at a commencement address with with young women even though this is a Catholic school. It takes a man to do that. He's a brave guy.

I don't know. He probably didn't need an escort out of there. He's a pretty strong dude. But those are the things he's talking about. But these are the things that are impacting women's lives, everyone's lives, because it's affecting the relationship between the sexes. It's affecting family formation. It's affecting the collapsing birth rates sexes. It's affecting family formation. It's affecting the collapsing birth rates that we're starting to see. It's affecting everything.

So I want to be kind of really clear about my view on girls because I have a lot of them in my home. And I want all of them to pursue their studies. I want them all to go to college. I push them to do well in college. I want them to pursue their studies. I want them all to go to college. I push them to do well in college. I want them to pursue opportunities. Right? So I'm not saying I don't want my girls to sit at home and wait for some guy to marry them.

Like, hell no. I'm pushing them to do well in school, to have an enlightened mind. Sean, if your daughter came home and said, I've got my degree. I don't want to do anything with it. I just want to be a mom. I would be elated.

Or if she says, I'm going to go out and work. And hopefully I'll meet the love of my life at some point in the not too distant future. And then maybe at one point she gets married and has kids and goes, at this season of my life with this new little baby i want to take time away i'm like what but let me ask you this sure ask me away what would make you happiest that your daughter married well and had a family or had a great career so what would make me the happiest is what would make her happy. I want her happy. And I think that would be to have a family and to raise good kids and especially raise good grandkids for me and for you. Right.

Thank you for that. But again, they might not find love right away. It might take them some time. And so I want to say that because I do think I'm going to be really clear what we're we're we're not saying put on i have no regrets about going to school i have no regrets about getting my degree i have no regrets about working to help my family what would make me sad is if my but i'll tell you what i will say those 14 years home were foundational for us as a family for our marriage for our kids for our kids for my career older kids often will look back and say we liked it better when you were home

but just the way rachel works saturday and sunday from she leaves at six in his home probably by 11 30 so if for for working it's a pretty good schedule. I'm not going to lie. But there were other times when I was a contributor and you were in Congress, that schedule, and I had to travel occasionally. And it was pretty tough on everybody. And everybody kind of pretty much said, we didn't like that so much. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Now, I wouldn't be able to have the nice schedule I have right now if I hadn't put in that time. So sometimes parents have to make these sacrifices. That said, I still think it should not be taboo to talk about the ideal, to talk about.

And first of all, the most unappreciated women in America are at home moms. Most unappreciated women in America are at-home moms. Good on him for celebrating them, for elevating them, for appreciating them. There is no question that at-home motherhood is undervalued, underappreciated, not just by spouses, other working women, society at large. society at large. But I think that some of the work that at home moms do is even is volunteer work that they do at schools at in their community. Again, totally underappreciated. So to take off a couple of things that you said, there was a point in there where I was in Congress and you were a Fox contributor and you were coming out once around. I was coming back and there was a dance of the schedule and it got to be a little bit hectic, which, by the way, was the reason when you got the full time job on Fox and Friends weekend. Though I love Wisconsin, though you were in Wisconsin for 20 years and all our kids have been raised in Wisconsin.

A lot of people wanted you to run for governor. I said, that's true. And I was like, you know know i though i love my home state and that is my home i don't want to be separated from you and the kids and you were willing to stay in wisconsin and i was one who said no we actually i want us all to be together and we'll all then move yeah we were sick you were you and i were both sick of the back of being separated and that's again a decision to be made so i'm gonna go back to the question you asked me about my own girls um what would make me sad um is if my daughters had a child or two and her and her husband both worked and you know they weren't by us and we couldn't help out and they just sent

their the kids went to daycare every day and she could make a different choice i think i would have not done my job if she could make a choice to stay at home with the kids or he could, you know, be at home with the kids. They could manage that. That would disappoint me because I do think something's lost when mom or dad are not there. A grandma and grandpa can't be there. A family is not raising the kids. And that's the one thing that would make me sad to answer your question.

Yeah, I mean, that's a whole other question. We've talked about that before. I mean, I don't think, I think that at-home motherhood has never been more isolating as it is now, because we've lost so much of the intergenerational living. And so there was a time when women did live, did primarily, you know, in the home, but they weren't isolated from their moms and their sisters and other women who were home. And I think that now, I mean, I think some people are coming back to that sort of like communal intergenerational living that's sort of starting to make a comeback. But there was a period of time, and we're definitely in part of that generation, where those connections were lost

and at home motherhood did feel very isolating now something that's changed for at-home moms that's like 1960s early 1970s that's not our world anymore there's a but there's a there's a far more you know the idea between the sexes i'm saying that when people move to the suburbs by themselves without a family network around them, there was a move that happened like that where, you know, grandma lived, grandma and take intergenerational living to not necessarily in the house, but in the neighborhood, in the area, so you have a support system. Which is why we think about often, where can we be that our kids want to be, where they can have opportunities, where we can all be together. We can all be in very close proximity, if not in the same piece of land, which not everyone goes for that outside of this car, Sean, at all this New York traffic.

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no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, not be here listen i think that this i think what harrison um butker has done is hit a hot topic a topic um you know a commencement address that hit all kinds of third rails and i think those are the best conversations to have and i think he's fearless um for giving just a traditional catholic speech commend him kudos to him and what i think too is it's inspiring for men not not necessarily even this topic but to be bold and men were made to be bold and to see other men

being bold that can inspire you to be bold and i and i love and i love that part of this story and i would i think i'd love to sit at their kitchen table and hear their conversations about, does he give a damn about the NFL statement or all the hate he's getting? I had to imagine he knew he was going to get it. Oh, I think he knew he was there. I think he knew he broke that hornet's nest when he was up there. He had a little twinkle in his eye. I think he understood exactly what was going to come for him. He knew what he was doing and he was ready for it. sprinkle in his eye i think he understood exactly what was going to come for him he knew what he was doing and he was ready for it shame on the nfl for their fake tolerance again the myth of liberal tolerance the myth of corporate tolerance um the nfl shame on you showing quote-unquote tolerance and you know for everything else every flag every life, every lifestyle, except that of a conservative

Catholic man. And by the way, Sean, I can't say this enough. Think about all the different players that the NFL has not distanced themselves from, who don't even hold a candle to how upstanding this young man is. Yeah. Separate yourself. NFL. We applaud you. Job. Well done. NFL.

Listen, Rachel, they never, they never cease to disappoint. So next week, you know, we're going to pick, we're going to pick just a lot more topics and we'll go through them.

Rapid fire. We're going to go through all your questions. I promise we won't forget the questions that we both listen to the speech this week. And we're like, this is wild. Awesome. And we have a podcast today. Let's talk about it. Yeah, that's what we did. Sorry. We

hijacked the Q&A guys. We promise to get to your questions next week. Also next week, Sean is really excited. We have a special guest. We're bringing in a beekeeper. We are going to bring in a beekeeper. I'm telling you what, bees are some of the most amazing little creatures.

And it has given me some great joy. Not the most joy in my life, but a lot of joy in my life. Sometimes I think I've been replaced as the queen bee. To see those little bees out there and all their little work and how they all partner up. And they're starting to build out their brood. And the queen's starting to lay eggs. It takes 21 days for a queen. Before the bee episode,

Sean, because Sean bought two bee seeds. She mentioned bees and I started going off on bees. This is not the episode on bees. Here's my commitment to you so that I could be in full bee mode because I am a little jealous of being replaced by your other bee. Sorry.

I'm going to put that other bee suit on, and I'm going to go examine the bees with you. Because I look out the window, I see them there with the bees. I'm going to do that before the episode so we can kind of talk more. I can speak more informed about so just i so to the point of rachel putting on a bee suit i put a video on facebook and on instagram of me and my bee suit when i got my bees and i got a lot of comments about how tight the bee suit was on me and it was tight i mean it was a large it was like really tight so it actually could fit rachel i bought a second just jacket as long as the best

part about the beast the b video is i came home and saw the b video had been made it had already been posted and so i was talking to sean about the b video that he had posted a lot of you have seen it and commented on it um and i said and this was before he bought the second B-suit. So he got your comment that he bought a second B-suit. So after he posted with this first B-suit on, I said to him, I said, well, who was doing the filming? And he said, Marivy, which is one of our daughters. And I said, well, she didn't have a B-suit. And he goes, oh, she's fine. She's fine.

She was a little ways away. But actually, the B-suit was riding up my backside. Yeah. So you got a new B-suit. It was a little ways away. But actually, the bee suit was riding up my backside. Yeah. So you got a new bee suit. It was a bespoke bee suit. It was a bespoke bee suit. We're going to do some bees. I'm going to get in the hive before that episode.

By the way, if anyone thinks it would be a great topic for me to talk about my tomato plants that I'm growing, I'd love to do a topic there. That has not made the cut yet for the podcast. Or bee questions. Submit your bee questions. We're going to have a bee expert on next week. We can can't wait so listen uh thank you for joining us in this edition in the car of from the kitchen table on the way to morgan wallen uh and uh we appreciate you being here uh if you like our podcast rate review subscribe wherever you get your podcast you can always find us at foxnewspodcast.com. Please subscribe. You'll get a notice every time we drop

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