From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - The Duffy's Real Time Reaction to Former President Trump's FOX & Friends Interview

Episode Date: June 7, 2024

Days after former President Donald Trump was convicted on all 34 counts in his hush money criminal trial, he sat down with Rachel and her FOX & Friends Weekend co-Hosts, Will Cain and Pete Hegseth for an exclusive interview. Throughout the interview it was adamant that despite facing an overwhelming amount of hatred and vitriol, the former President remains focused on one thing: regaining power to restore America.   Sean and Rachel look back at some of the former President's thoughts from the weekend -- where he shares how his family is doing during a harsh media storm and where he stands on issues like the border, government transparency , and more. Follow Sean & Rachel on X: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Sean, it's great to be back at the kitchen table with you, sharing a cup of coffee, although you're having your sparkling water. I'm having my La Croix, or La Crosse as it's correctly said, Wisconsin. It's La Croix. That's French. But it comes from a town in Wisconsin called La Crosse. Yeah, but it's French. It's La Croix. That's French. If you ask, if you actually, but it comes from a town in Wisconsin called La Croix. Yeah, but it's French. No, it's not.

It's La Croix. It's actually La Croix. We all call it La Croix, but listen, the French didn't create this brand in La Croix, Wisconsin. They call it La Croix. It's actually La Croix. Let's just call it Chippewa. Chippewa, Wisconsin. Anyway, the lemon LaCroix is fantastic.

You're having your sparkling. I'm having my second cup of cappuccino. I've already had four cups of coffee, so I'm doing water right now. If I had that, I could not sleep at night if I had that much coffee. But we are here. Yes. You're as impressive, Sean, as another guy who's pretty impressive. And I got to sit down with him last weekend, last Saturday, with my co-host, Will and Pete.

And that is, of course, Donald Trump, who granted us the weekend crew from Fox and Friends. They granted us the privilege of being the first to interview him after the verdict came down in the trial in New York. After the monkey trial, after the lawfare, the 34 convictions. That's right. That happened on Thursday. You guys had this interview on Saturday night, aired the clips on Sunday morning. I went to the interview. You were there. You were sitting there. It was supposed to be an hour interview. It ended up being an hour and a half in length. He just kept, people trying to pull him It ended up being an hour and a half in length.

He just goes, people are trying to pull him away. He's like, no, no, stop. No, we're good. He's like, let it keep going. He was so nice and gracious in that way. But, you know, we really got to ask him some pretty fascinating questions. I thought it would be interesting to pull some of the ones that I thought were really interesting and sort of break it down a little bit with you. And I want to start with this one, Sean, because, you know, there's the trial,

there's all that, but there's the personal side of what has happened to this man. Okay. He has been through, is it two or three impeachments? I can't remember now. Two impeachments. Two impeachments, a hoax, a Russia hoax thing. They spied on his campaign. They basically tried to... Kick him off the ballot. Kick him off social media. Kick him off social media.

And now prosecute him. It was an intelligence coup that was attempted on him in his first administration. Then COVID was unleashed, and that was used to try and take him down. It has never stopped. It is relentless. And the most shocking thing to me about this interview was his attitude. Because, Sean, if this had happened to me or worse, if this had happened to you, and it's a little easy for me to picture myself in a situation like this, you having been a member of Congress for 10 years and being in politics for 10 years, I would be bitter. I would be so bitter.

And I don't get a bitter thing out of this man. I get a fighter. In fact, he referenced the UFC fighters. I thought it would be interesting to play this clip about. Hold on a second. I'm going to unpack that for a moment before we go to the clip. Because he talked about UFC fighters. And so they come into the ring and they're angry and they want to kill their opponent.

He likes to go to those things. And then he's like, when the fight's over, they hug each other and, you know, compliment each other. He kind of, he's like, that's what politics are like. It's, you are in the ring in this hateful, vitriolic campaign. And then you kind of let it go once it's over. And that's the American tradition, which is what he did to Hillary Clinton when he beat her. And he thought that's what it was like. And except it wasn't. Democrats have continued the fight outside the ring. Right. And so it begs the question, how do you handle what they've done to him? Should he be reelected? Does he want retribution? OK, we'll play with that. I was going to go with a different clip but this is a good this is a good setup for that clip so let's just go with this this is me asking donald trump um if the the telling is telling him that his detractors say they're

afraid if he gets elected he's going to want revenge for this here's how that question went here's his response mr president you've been through a lot in your presidency, what they've done to you. You've got the verdict that just came through. A lot of Democrats have expressed concern that if you're elected, you're going to want revenge. And some of your supporters have said, well, you know, mutually. You know, we're just talking about the weaponization of the justice system against political opponents. Some of your supporters have said, well, the only way to stop this is mutually assured destruction, right? If you do it to us, we're going to do it to you.

You've said, no, my revenge is going to be success for America. You've just had this verdict. Yeah. Do you still feel the same? What's your thoughts on that? Look, it's a very interesting question. And I say it and it sounds beautiful, right? You know, my revenge will be success. And I mean that. But it's awfully hard when you see

what they've done. These people are so evil. And at the same time, the country can come together. You know, I'm saying this, but the country can come together. You know, during my term, prior to COVID, we had the most successful country we've ever had. Everybody's up Hispanic, black, Asian women, men without a diploma, men with MIT, Wharton and Harvard diplomas, all of them put together. Everybody was making more money, doing better than they've ever done before. He's you know, he said that before. He said. He said, success is going to be my revenge. But that was before this verdict. That was before all these trials.

He's still having to go to Florida, by the way. He's got this stuff with Jack Smith still hanging over him, the document stuff. So it's just never-ending. But I thought it was interesting. He was very clear in previous interviews. And by the way, he was clear in an interview last night with Sean Hannity. I'm not going to seek revenge. I am going to be successful for this country. But in this interview, two days after, you could see he was grappling. Because then Will asked him in a different way.

And he said what he said about the UFC fighter that you said. And then he said, you know, I thought it was this way. And now I just don't know how it'll be. So what's interesting on this topic is that there's now been some new polling that's coming out in regard to swing states after the verdict. And the most recent polling that I saw was in the state of Georgia. And the question, so what's Joe Biden running on? Joe Biden is running on abortion and he's running on a threat to democracy. He's going to give a speech on Friday. Which is crazy that they think threat to democracy concerns might actually benefit the Democrats. Joe Biden is going to give a speech on Friday in Europe about the threat to

democracy as if all of America, all the whole world, Europe included, hasn't seen what he's done. Democracy is in America as you prosecute, persecute your political opponent. But in Georgia, on the threat to democracy, who's going to preserve it? Donald Trump rates higher than Joe Biden by two points that he'll preserve democracy more than Joe Biden. Right. And on abortion, Donald Trump's only down by like two or three points in Georgia. So Donald Trump's winning on one of the Democrat issues and losing only by a little on the other. But if you look at, again, the economy, inflation, Middle East war, the border, that's right. Donald Trump's up by more than 10. So anyway,

it's interesting how this misfire for Democrats is ricocheting now through the polls and may last until Election Day. I mean, Mitt Romney actually said that Alvin Bragg committed political malpractice on behalf of the Democrats, because what it's done is people who weren't so sure, especially during the primary, maybe the more neocon Nikki Haley types, even they, like Mitt Romney, were absolutely disgusted by this last trial in particular because so many norms were broken. It was so obvious that this was like a Stalin-like, find the man, I'll find the crime kind of a, show me the man. I'll find you the crime kind of a situation. And there was nothing. And meanwhile, you see Hunter Biden's trial going on. And they're in the most friendly Joe Biden venue with, you know, with jurors who are in the camp.

And then Donald Trump gets tried in the most friendly Joe Biden, the most friendly, another friendly Joe Biden place. So it's just kind of crazy. Another friendly Joe Biden place. So it's just kind of crazy. But here's the... No, hold on a second. But you mentioned Mitt Romney saying that this Alvin Bragg committed election malpractice or political malpractice. And that shows how naive Mitt Romney is.

To think that Alvin Bragg did this on his own, I think is unbelievable. This was... What he wanted to say was Obama and Valerie Jarrett committed, and Eric Holder committed a political matter. We know who's writing the show. Which, by the way, I said that this week I was filling in for Ainsley, and they were talking about, you know, because there's been all these articles this week about the decline of Joe Biden and how bad it is. There was a Time magazine article that probably was trying to paper over and couldn't because the transcript was there,

and it was just so obvious. And then the Wall Street Journal did one where they interviewed different people. And and all of these people said, I don't this is not the same man I talked to four or five years ago. He's just that the decline is that bad. We'll be right back with much more after this. The world of business moves fast. Stay on top of it with the Fox Business Rundown. Listen to the Fox Business Rundown every Monday and Friday at foxbusinesspodcasts.com or wherever you download your favorite podcasts. I said, somebody in one of my co-hosts said, well, I mean, then it begs the question, you know, who's running it if it's not Joe Biden? And I said, well, that's obvious. Valerie Jordan and Barack Obama and like Media Matters and George Soros.

I got all these Google alerts coming at me like, you know, this crazy Rachel and her conspiracy theories. We all know that they're doing that. It's just so obvious that Joe Biden is not running the show. Now, Jill Biden is running the show in terms of, no, my husband won't step down. She is running that show. But the actual day-to-day Jill Biden, she's a community college, you know, adjunct professor. She's a doctor. She's a doctor. She's not running anything other than like,

no, my husband won't step down. I love being first lady. Let me play this because this is about the family. And this is, I think, one of the, where you see the difference between Donald Trump. When I say Donald Trump is the toughest man, I've heard Judge Jeanine say this. I've met the man, you see the difference between Donald Trump. I see Donald Trump is the toughest man. I've heard Judge Jeanine say this. I've met the man.

You've met the man. You've been in politics, Sean. This would be absolutely like send me to the funny farm kind of stuff that's happened to Donald Trump over the last six years. And he's still standing. He's still fighting. And we asked him about that, but also about his family, who aren't necessarily made of the same cloth

as Donald Trump. Listen to this. How does your family do this? All the obstacles, you know, these are things you care about, your ambitions for the country. What about everybody around you? So I think in many ways, it's tougher on them

than it is on me. They're good people, all of them, everyone, everyone. I have a wonderful wife who has to listen to this stuff all the time. They do that for this reason. They do that, all these salacious names that they put in of these people. And I'm not even allowed to defend myself because of a gag order. Think of it. But they put this stuff in to create havoc.

These are bad people. I know everything they're doing. I know every move they make. I get it. But a lot of people don't. But it's tougher. I think it's probably in many ways it's tougher on my family. So, first of all, I think Donald Trump does, for some reason, feel comfortable with this crew.

I mean, he actually says, I watched the weekend, Fox and Friends. At one point in the interview, he said, you know, you guys are a great crew together. It works. And I think that that level, that comfort we have with each other also transferred somehow to him. And I thought that was a very vulnerable moment where he really, you know, was like, this is really tough on my family. And he also said something that I think is really obvious to me, Sean, that this entire, especially the Stormy Daniels, the one that involved the trial that involves Stormy Daniels, this was an exercise in humiliation. And it is a psychological game. They're trying to break him down psychologically. They're trying to bring pressure on him and the family. And I remember talking to Will Kane after this, Sean, after this interview.

We were kind of discussing this moment. And I said, well, I remember when Sean was a new congressman and about a million, which at the time, a million, million and a half, maybe two million dollars worth of ads came down on you. The Democrats decided they wanted to. By the way, that's rural Wisconsin. That buys a lot of ads. That buys a lot of ads in rural Wisconsin. And they thought, you know, this guy has potential. Let's kill this little bird while he's still in the nest before he flies. And they dropped all these commercials. And the commercials were so awful. And they were so gross and so, like, not who you were. And they twisted things that you had said

and edited them in such an awful way you didn't want to go to the grocery store i was mad about you know some things that had happened campaign wise to respond to it that didn't happen we started fighting and i'm like this is what they're doing like at one point you were like rachel this is what they're trying to do they point you were like, Rachel, this is what they're trying to do. They're trying to get under your skin. They're trying to get under my skin. They're trying to get us fighting. They're trying to demoralize us and take us off this path that we have of trying to save our district.

And I will never forget that conversation. I will never forget the fights we were getting in. I will never forget how humiliating it was for our family to go through that. And this is like child's play to what Donald Trump has gone through. I just I just wanted to talk to you about that because like I'm the spouse, but you're the candidate and you're the father of this family. What was that like? What do you make of what he just said? So he's right. First of all, when you when you see Donald Trump, you're amazed. You go either he's made of steel or he's crazy because he's's right. First of all, when you see Donald Trump, you're amazed. You go either he's made of steel or he's crazy.

Because he's in great spirits. Like he is like in a good mood and, you know, up for the fight. And it's like you might go to you might go to jail. He's like, OK, but I had a great day on the golf course today and I'm going to save America. I love our Constitution. But here's what's interesting, Rachel, because, first of all, we got a lot stronger skin since we went through those first campaigns. Now we're like little armadillos, right? We're armadillos. But at the time. It was hard.

Oh, my God, it was so devastating. So here's what I think. This is not the first time this tactic has been tried. Yeah. It's been done before. Yeah. Not really in America, but it's done in communist countries. So if you come to America, right, and you don't comply with the rules and the norms of China,

they don't just threaten you and your money and your life. What they do is they threaten you with the lives and the freedoms of your people at home right yes that's what the old that's what the old soviet union used to do yes threaten your family because you're really that's what the cartels do of course they want to go if when the cartels target you the before they kill you they'll kill your whole family and make you watch it before they kill you it's part of the process and that is also a political execution. That's what's happening here. Yes.

Yes. Which is disgusting. Yes. That's my first thought. But on a side note, he mentioned the gag order. And again, that the gag order still exists after the trial. What's the purpose of a gag order? Is to make sure that Donald Trump doesn't say anything that's going to influence witnesses

or maybe not going to say anything that could influence the jury, the trial's over. The only person now who can make a decision is the judge. Right. And the judge is, in essence, saying, you can't talk about this case. You can't talk about the corruption of this case. You can't talk about the people who testified against you in this case. It makes absolutely no sense unless it's a political prosecution. Of course it is. And this whole exercise, Sean, has been, you know, it's like, we have a bill of rights that

says you're entitled to a jury of your peers and fairness. And it seems like if your name is Donald Trump, it doesn't exist. And here's the other point I want to make. A lot of people have been saying, well, watch out. If they can do this to Donald Trump, they can do it to you. I say they're wrong. It's already happening. You see the kind of persecution the Jay Sixers have faced that was not even not even close to parallel to what the rioters of the Summer of Love faced. of the Summer of Love faced, the BLM and the Antifa rioters, who did far more damage, caused far more death. But you also look at the way the pro-lifers, we have elderly pro-life activists who prayed in front of clinics, who are elderly, are facing two, three years in prison, put in solitary confinement. The persecution of conservatives and dissenters and dissidents has already begun. Get ready. So just to put a point on that, there's a pro-life protester who was praying in an abortion clinic. 75 years old. She has failing health. She was just sentenced to two years in prison.

Okay. And there was someone back from the Summer of Love. You mentioned that. Someone who had a Molotov cocktail and threw it at a cop car. And I think there was someone in the cop car. The cop was in a cop car and he threw it at him. It explodes, fire. Do you know what they got?

15 months so you threaten the lives of cops you destroy property and you get 15 months you pray at an abortion clinic you get two years and by the way we also know that the protesters on uh at the eastern vigil mass at saint patrick's in new york city which is also a violation of the FACE Act. Of the FACE Act? Nope, nothing. The FBI hasn't come. There's no prosecution of those protesters. But pro-life prayers? Again, so this is an important point.

Yeah, the persecution has begun. That you have to actually root this out and so you don't have this game played in the future. So we also talked about the border. One of the things I love about Donald Trump is that he has always been consistent. I loved how when he went to the Bronx, which was a deep blue area with lots of Hispanics, he gave the same speech about the border and illegals and how they're destroying the country in terms of their resources, you know, absorbing the resources that belong to American citizens, the crime rates,

the threats to our national security because of the open border. He talked about it as unvarnished as he would in rural Wisconsin or rural Michigan or Georgia or Texas. He does not pander to that. Now, when he was president, as you know, Sean, they accused him of being racist because of his position on the border. They also blamed him for separating families. And there was a very not true picture of a little girl crying at his leg. So Time magazine took a picture of Donald Trump looking down at a little girl. It was superimposed. It was photoshopped. And this little girl crying from the border. And they tried to do the story about how he's separating people at the border. Now when he did that,

when the left went after him for that, the first ladies came out. Barbara Bush. Laura Bush. Laura Bush. Michelle Obama. No, not Barbara. Hillary Clinton. Yeah, Hillary Clinton. came out barbara bush uh laura bush no not barbara clinton yeah yeah hillary clinton and um um who was the other one laura bush i'm trying to remember all of them hillary clinton hillary clinton michelle obama that's that's all we have yeah the first lady's put out a bipartisan letter you know condemning donald trump for the way he's treating children at the border. Now, the reason the children were separated was because Donald Trump and his administration said, we want to figure out if these people who are bringing these little kids

over claim they're the parents or actually the parents. And so we separate them and we want to do DNA tests. The Democrats fought and won against the use of DNA to figure out if these were actually the parents. Or even a relative. Or even a relative. So now what happens, we have this massive increase of unaccompanied minors who come across the border. They're tiny. Some of them are four, five, eleven, nine. They come across the border. Whoever's with them and claims they're the parent gets to take them. If they come by themselves, somebody might come to pick them up because they usually have like a little number or whatever. Could be an illegal, which means we don't know who they are. Mostly illegals will come

and pick them up and take them wherever. And we have lost track as a nation of that we know of 80,000 of these children who have probably fallen into sex trafficking or God knows what. I asked the president if he was willing to commit to finding out where these children are to make sure that they're safe. And here's what happened. In just this fiscal year, 2024, there's been 74,000 unaccompanied children that have come across the border. In 2023, get this number, 137,275. You know, you've seen the images of these children. Five, seven years old, nine years old, 12 years old.

And the Joe Biden administration has lost 80,000 of them. No one can track, no one knows where they're at. At least, yeah, much more. At least, there's probably 80,000 of them. No one can track. No one knows where they're at. At least. Yeah, much more. At least. There's probably more, but at least. Will you commit, will the Trump administration commit to finding these children, to finding them and returning them to their families, to their countries? Because many of them have been lost into sex trafficking.

Many of them are dead. It's heartbreaking. No, it's heartbreaking. It's amazing. Will you commit to that? Will you commit to finding those children in the Arab world? I haven't been asked that question, but the answer is yes. It's a simple answer. Many of them are dead.

They have done such a bad job. So much for the compassion. I mean, they try to wrap all this up in compassion. I think that just exposed that. That's such a lie. Well, again, 80,000. I was shocked when he said most of them are dead, which he's probably right. Yeah.

But 80,000, listen, it's far more than 80,000. And that's what he said. Yeah. And so. But, Sean, if the Republicans had lost track, the Republican administration had lost track of 80,000 children. What would it be like for you in Congress? It would be raucous. Every reporter would ask me about it every time I went to and from the House floor. They wouldn't let it go.

They would drive this as a national story that we've lost 80,000 plus kids. The sex trafficking would be talked about all the time. Yes. Sex trafficking would become an issue all of a sudden. You would be shamed into changing policy. And what's interesting is it's one thing if the media actually had compassion, if they actually were like, you know what, we do care about kids in the media and therefore we're going to hold both sides to account, you know, on taking care of kids that come across the

southern border. The truth is they don't care. It's just a political issue for them. And so, by the way, Joe Biden just did this executive order at the southern border, which, by the way, is going to do nothing to stop illegal immigration at the southern border. But if you're an unaccompanied minor, that doesn't count in this crazy algebra problem you have to do to figure out, you know, whether you can cut off the flow of people into the country. They don't count towards the 2,500 people coming into the country per day. And so what it's doing is it's incentivizing the cartels to again use kids to get their people across the border because that's your get out of jail free card. That's your pass to get into the country. Again, these policies are stupid. Donald Trump makes a lot of sense, man.

He does. This is another piece of the interview that I think it actually it made the most press, if you will. And that is I asked him about declassifying files. Some people think that one way to build trust is to declassify things that everyone's talking about. I know you talked earlier about I don't want to be a conspiracy theorist. So if you were president, would you declassify? You can answer yes or no to this. Would you declassify the 9-11 files? Yeah.

Would you declassify JFK files? Yeah. I did. I did a lot of it. Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah. Would you declassify JFK files? Yeah. I did a lot of it. Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah. Yeah, I would. All right. Yes, I would.

I think that less so because, you know, you don't know. You don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there because it's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world.

But I think I would or at least... Do you think that would restore trust? Help restore trust? Yeah, I don't know about Epstein so much as I do the others. Certainly about the way he died, it would be interesting to find out what happened there, because that was a weird situation, and the cameras didn't happen to be working, etc., etc. But yeah, I'd go a long way toward that one. Fascinating. A lot of people were like, this was their favorite part of the

interview. It was great. So by the way, on the Epstein stuff, I don't disagree with him. This was their favorite part of the interview. It was great. So, by the way, on the Epstein stuff, I don't disagree with him. I'm less interested. I'd like to know. I'm curious who was on this list. I want to know who was on the Lolita Express. I would like to know.

But what I care more about is... JFK. No. Can you kill someone in America and get away with it? Can the state... Or can the government kill? Yeah, because... That's why you need to start with JFK. No, no. Well jfk is important right but this this is the most recent one with epstein

but the cameras are off and he was in okay spirits but all of a sudden he's hung himself in a cell a whole bunch of really weird things happened and if we have our government able to kill people and get away with it, you don't have democracy. It did happen. I mean, the JFK stuff, I believe 100% that the CIA, that the intelligence went after him. It sure points to that. But declassify. Again, we don't have to speculate.

I'm so sick of, like, they want to call everyone a conspiracy theorist for trying to connect dots that, you know, kind of make sense. There's no other explanation for it. The best way for us to restore trust in our government is to release it all. Let us know what's going on. JFK 9-11. We'll have more of this conversation after this. What I found interesting is that there's a lot of young people, more than even old people who want this kind of information. I think there's been, because of COVID, such a breakdown in trust. We see now,

you know, even the Fauci hearings that we had recently, Sean, that now we're seeing, of course, you and I knew he was lying about social distancing, about, you know, all the things they did. In my view, all of this was about mail-in ballots. All of it was about creating fear, social distancing, and a justification for mail-in ballots, which, of course, make it easier for people to rig. So, Kenta, my view on this is I think you've endangered his life by those questions, if I'm honest. And I say that because… God, that makes me… And I say it because this is the intelligence community that actually attempted a coup against him with Russia collusion.

And it would have worked with, I think, any other man or woman. It didn't work with him. But if the CIA was involved or the FBI was involved in the murder of JFK, which they probably were, and that's released to the public. What happens? I think they lose all credibility. They lose support. You could see the American people actually demand massive reforms. That's what we need. A cleaning of the house. I know that.

I agree with you. The problem is these are very powerful people that if you could, again, I'm not a cat, but if you were the ones that killed Epstein, if you're the ones that killed JFK, if you're the ones that orchestrated a coup, you have significant power. They will not give up that power. I think most of the people involved with JFK are probably dead or almost dead. But the agency is alive. The agency is alive.

And therefore, you have to take out the man who's willing to expose your bad deeds. Let's hope that's not the case. I really hope... You asked it and I was like, I don't know that it was a great question. And I wanted the answer. But I'm concerned about he if you already had a target, but is that target that much bigger? And is the effort that much greater? Because he's going to release this stuff? Well, listen, I think he was restrained, not just with Hillary, but even in some of this declassification when he was in office. After having had the deep state go after him, I think when they say revenge, I don't think they're like, he's going to put Hillary in jail.

He's going to put Joe Biden in jail. I think the revenge is the cleaning and reforming of the intelligence communities which have gotten out of control. And I think that there is a deep well of support among American people with common sense for that kind of reform on both sides, frankly, I think on both sides, I mean, maybe the extreme, extreme left, or maybe, you know, some politically connected Democrats, but and politically connected Republicans. But among the electorate, I think there is a deep desire for us to believe in America again. And I think, you know, some of the questions in 9-11, some of the questions in JFK, some of the questions on COVID, all of these things, Epstein, have eroded the trust in the government and the wars,

and the wars that they lie to us about, that they get us engaged and then we don't see anything else about it. Telling us that Ukraine is winning when everybody who's over there says, no, Russia is winning. These are lies, lies, lies. And I think Donald Trump is literally the only human on the earth who could withstand what is being thrown at him because the deep state is, and who is willing to expose these lies. And I think that the case for him winning was, I think, even more apparent after that verdict, ironically. And the lies are told, not because we can't handle the truth, or there's some great secrecy around what they're doing.

They lie to us because if we knew the truth, we would not stand for the mission of, you know, whether it's the CIA, the FBI, the Pentagon. The Iraq War, you name the thing they want us to do. America would say no. And so what it is, is it's a power move to keep us in the dark so they can continue to do what they think is right for the country, those few, as opposed to what the American people think is right for the country. It's

shameful. And even that statement, Sean, is very generous and charitable because I don't even think it's what they think is right for the country. I'm a politician. I know you're so good. So, so diplomatic. I think there's a lot of money making. Of course. There's a lot of money making in war. There's a lot of money making in vaccines. There's a lot of money making and deal making in all of these government contracts. And people are making money and keeping us in the dark and using our money to make everybody who's living in those zip codes around D.C. rich. There's a lot of power there. And that's what this is about.

And you know what? Whether it's vaccines what whether it's vaccines whether it's wars people die people lose their lives this is not cost free this is not like or even someone else's like our people die and their people and the iraqis died they're willing to sell your life for their money yes um and i so i do hope that donald trump does expose this and again we have to get back on a different footing in the American people's relationship with their government or the government's relationship with the people. It is off kilter. And so we need someone to go, you know what?

Nope, you're going to get all the information. There might be some secrets we got to keep from the people, but you're going to get you're getting all of it. And let's have a conversation. Especially the stuff in the past. Yeah. To rebuild that trust um sean last thing is this um john stewart um talked about our interview and i thought we'd end on this because it was it was kind of funny um it was kind of funny it was kind of funny i got this i got this clip and i sent it to you and we both got a chuckle it made me laugh it made us laugh so we're gonna end. What she's done, they should lock her up.

Lock her up is right. Lock up the Buggs. Lock up Hillary. And he said it a million times! And then the... And the Fox and Friends B team is just sitting there. Tanned and fit and healthy and so f***able. How did they get so f***able?

It's a good looking bunch. They're tanned, they're fit, they're good looking bunch. So they're tan, they're fit, good looking. Um, I had Pete on that. Pete was, did the bottom line yesterday, uh,

on Fox business from six to seven Eastern. Um, and we were talking on off camera on this, about this clip. And I'm like, you know, he called it the B team, but then he gave a lot of nice compliments.

I would, I would, I would prefer that. I think then if you were the A team and you said the opposite about the... Well, we're definitely the B team. They're fat and they're pale. They're so ugly. So not a bad...

Not a bad... For how evil these nighttime hosts can be, these nighttime comedians can be, it wasn't the worst thing they could say about you. The B team,t just sat there but the point is and will made this point very well yeah maybe donald trump said lock her up and and that that clearly there's some clips that show him say lock her up but the reality is he didn't he gave her a pass and he said now i call her do you remember he says now I call her, do you remember, he says, now I call her beautiful Hillary. And that was his humorous way of saying, let bygones be bygones. I whooped her butt. She's done. Go have your Chardonnay. Let me run this administration for four years and you can come back or whoever

comes back later. But that did not happen. He did not prosecute her. He did not have his weaponize the government against her, even though she had committed very serious crimes. And he moved on, tried to move on with his administration. But they had an intelligence coup against him already, a plot already underway. Just to recap, she had a private server classified information on that server. That's a crime. Other people without classification clearance got those emails from her. That's also a crime. She actually paid for the dossier.

She paid a law firm as a middleman to fund the dossier. She put it down as a legal expense. Which is way worse than what he did before Sterling Danner's thing. The Congress actually subpoenaed her phones and she smashed her phones. She bleach-bitted her server.

All contrary to the request for preservation that came from the Congress. All crimes. Donald Trump said, yeah, I beat you. Sit with that. I'm not going to do it. I'm not going to go after you. But he might have chanted it, but he didn't do it. Joe Biden never chanted it. But he did it it joel biden never chanted it but he

did it but he did it what would you rather have john stewart eat that sandwich that john stewart all right well great episode um fun interview you guys did a great job in that interview i thought it was it was it was um it was pointed uh i thought he was very responsive sometimes just if you watch the whole thing it was raw at some points but he started at point a and he got to like point you know like w i'm like how did he get from here to here that was interesting but then he comes back and he comes back but he he gives you a lot of information and um i mean i thought it was a raw moment and just the last thing i'll say about the interview was not about what he said to you. And I mentioned this earlier. Was his demeanor. Was his

attitude. Two days after this bogus verdict. He is like in great spirits and having a good time. And it's like he is on a mission to save the country. That's exactly what I was going to say. I would have lost faith in America.

Listen, over the last four years, I've had moments of losing faith in America. I think he's more bullish on America after everything that's happened to him than I am. And that's a remarkable human. That's a remarkable patriot. And I'm really impressed with him. He talked about how big the country is, how diverse it is, how great it is, and how great the Constitution is. And listen, it's not bullshit. It was an honest statement. And after I was more in awe of him watching what his demeanor was and his attitude was, it speaks volumes about, I think, who he is as a person. Yeah, no doubt. So well done. Well done. Thank you. Well

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