From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - The Great Reset & The Dutch Farmer Protest

Episode Date: July 28, 2022

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down with Political Commentator and Legal Philosopher Eva Vlaardingerbroek to discuss the ongoing Dutch farmer protests in the Netherlands.   Eva explains the policy decisions that have led Dutch farmers to speak out against the government, the globalist tactics that she believes are taking over Europe, and the impact these policies will have on global food supplies.   Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Rachel Campos Duffy. Thank you, Sean. I'm so glad to be back with everybody at our kitchen table. These conversations are so great. And we're talking a lot these days, you and I, Sean, about the protests in the Netherlands, the Dutch farmer protests. But there's not a whole lot of news here in the United States about it. So we thought we'd bring in someone who our listeners may be familiar with. She's been on Tucker quite a few times. She's a political commentator. She's a legal philosopher. Her name is Ava Lantinger-Brooke. Ava, tell me if that's right. Lantinger-Brooke, but I know it's hard. I don't blame you at all.

All right. Okay. Well, you've been covering the Dutch farmers protests and that's why we're bringing you on. Cause I don't know anyone who probably knows as much about it as you. And so why don't we just get right into it and tell us what's going on. What do we not know about it, about it here in the United States? Sure. Yes. I'll just give your listeners the basic rundown of what our government is doing because it's a complicated story but at the end of the day it's what's happening is is very easy to understand i feel like for most people so the government in the netherlands is saying that we're dealing with a climate crisis and that nitrogen and ammonia emissions are too high in our tiny little country the netherlands um country, although it's great

in spirit, is very, very small. But according to our government, we have a very bad nitrogen crisis that needs to be tackled. And so what they're saying is that by 2030, 50% of our nitrogen emissions have to go down. And they're targeting our farmers directly for that. So they're saying that our farmers are a big contributor and that they need to be cut. And well, what they're doing is saying, basically, you farmers need to give up your land. You need to stop, especially the cattle farmers, to emit all this nitrogen. And you have to give us your land and just basically give up your entire life's work. So that's the basic rundown of what our government is doing.

They're saying you guys are part of a problem. You need to give up your land and you need to give us your property. So, Ava, I find that fascinating. Are you seeing environmental impacts from nitrogen? Have people's lives changed because of nitrogen in the Netherlands? Is this a big problem? No, not at all. This is a made-up crisis. It's not something that anyone could ever see. It's also, I mean, we've heard a lot of talk, obviously, about carbon emissions, but now nitrogen is a new one that suddenly is a big problem. And instead of going after, for example, the airlines,

you know, other big industries that actually are big contributors in the emission of nitrogen, they're coming after our farmers specifically. So that should tell you enough that this is not about an actual crisis or an actual climate crisis. It's about targeting the farmers specifically. And there are a lot of reasons for

that. The Netherlands, like I said, is a very tiny country. And a lot of the land in our tiny country is actually owned by farmers. We are the second largest agricultural producer in the world, right after you guys, right after the Americans. So it's a huge industry for us. It's huge. Think and how small you are I mean I think I heard that your country's about the size of Indiana um for our our listeners and so yeah yeah I mean that's that's an amazing amount of production for such a tiny country it seems like it's very efficient farming actually it's very efficient farming a lot of these people you know that run these these businesses they're these people, you know, that run these businesses,

they're family businesses. So, you know, these are not people that started farming somewhere during the course of their life. Oftentimes, these are businesses that have been in their family for centuries on end. So this is not just, you know, their livelihood, but it's also their heritage. It's their history. It's something that has been in their family for, like I said, centuries on end oftentimes. And now suddenly they are losing it because of these ridiculous restrictions that are not actually because of something like nitrogen. You know,

the real reason the government wants this is because they take up so much of the land and they want it for other purposes. So for example, one of the reasons that we see in the actual state documentation as to why they want the farmer's land is because they need it for houses. So we have a housing crisis, and that is not because the Dutch population is naturally growing so much, but that's because we've had open border policies for the longest time.

So we have a lot of immigration coming to the Netherlands, and we just frankly don't have space to house these new people. So the government needs the farmer's land to build new houses to house all of these newcomers. That's one of the reasons. And the other reason that I see and a lot of people now see

as to why the government is doing this is that because these farmers are so successful, they are obviously very independent from the state. They produce the food, they have cattle, they are hardworking, they are not very easy to control. And if you have a government, a state that is hungry for more power, then what better way to control people than to be able to control the food supply, right? So that's what is happening here. It's part of the, again, 2030 agenda. All of these things need to be done before 2030. That rings a bell.

It's part of the Great Reset. It's European Union. It's a globalist agenda that we basically are a pilot country for. So I want to get into the 2030 agenda because a lot of people don't know about that agenda coming from the un and the great reset and i want to talk about this because i do believe you that it is tied to this but first because you're you understand the law in netherlands you're a legal philosopher what what is what are the laws about taking the land i mean i i try and picture this in the united

states and i really can't like i our laws property rights, I can't picture that this could be a real threat here in the United States in terms of the legality of it. What does the law say about the government being able to take or confiscate the land? Because that sounds pretty communist. Yeah, exactly. It is. And you're right to draw the comparison and say, well, this sounds like something that would be impossible in America. Well, it's not so impossible for us because we don't have a constitution that protects property rights or even, you know, just something like the Second Amendment is something that we don't have. So

the idea that the government's not your friend is not something that's very apparent to a lot of people in Europe, I feel like, and especially not in a historically very pacifist country like the Netherlands. So people aren't too skeptical or distrusting, I would say, historically speaking, of the government. And that's reflected in our laws. So for example, now what they're doing is something that they've done during COVID as well. They say there is a crisis and this crisis trumps your right to X. Let's say in this case, it's property. Right. So this is and this, again, is a law that comes not from the Dutch government directly, but they're following regulations and restrictions coming from the European Union.

And that law, even though we never voted for it, the Dutch people never had anything to say about it, has direct effect in our legal system. So just imagine, you know, there are people that you never voted for, who on a, again, supranational level are deciding for you what you need to be doing in your country. national level are deciding for you what you need to be doing in your country. So on the basis of those regulations, the government is expropriating Dutch farmers and basically saying, you need to sell us your land because of this climate crisis. And the Dutch farmers have no way of legally actually going against that. They are forced to indeed comply and forced to sell their land for obviously very bad rates, not market standard rates. So it's theft. I can't really name it any other thing.

It is actual theft. And it sounds communist because it is. It's the idea of giving up private property in the name of a greater good. And in this case, they decided it's climate change. So Evo, talk to me about, again, I was in Congress in the U.S. for nine years. Talk to me about where the people are at in the Netherlands. Where is the leadership? Where's the assembly? Where's your prime minister? Are they in lockstep with this EU vote that we should reduce nitrogen levels and therefore have the Dutch farmers give up their land? Or are they standing with the farmers? And that's the first question. And I hate to ask you two-part questions. But the second part, is there anything you guys can do? If there's an uprising,

you know, in the Netherlands, can you stop this from happening? Or is this totally out of your control because the EU has mandated it and you're part of the EU. No, I will answer both your questions with one answer. So what you're seeing in my country is a split down the middle between people who basically either follow the establishment and are the establishment. Those people are in favor of all of this and the people who are skeptical of the establishment. And that's basically, I would say, what divides these two groups. It's not necessarily a matter of left wing that's basically, I would say, what divides these two groups. It's not necessarily a matter of left wing or right wing, so to say, because officially speaking, our prime minister, Mark Rutte, is the leader of a somewhat right wing, at least capitalist,

neoliberal, you could say, party. So it's, you know, that would be confusing for people to think, why is a right-wing government doing this well he's not right-wing he's a globalist this man's involved uh very deeply in the world economic forum you can see him shake hands with people like trudeau and and klaus schwab all the time and he's very happy around those people and he's known to to push for these types of laws and for again these types of agendas rather than what you would expect from a right-wing politician in the Netherlands. But this man doesn't care about the Dutch interest. He doesn't care about the Dutch people. He cares about his own position in these international

globalist institutions. And so the Dutch state and the Dutch coalitions, they're all on board with this. So, you know, this is really something that the establishment is pushing for. But the Dutch people and the Dutch farmers are resisting it. And the Dutch farmers are basically, I would say, the only group in the Netherlands that have the manpower to really put up a significant fight. And they have been doing so for the past, I think, this has been going on for two, two and a half weeks now. So it started out with them, the farmers blocking distribution centers, they blocked the freeways, and that immediately caused food shortages in the supermarkets in the following days. So that was to show the Dutch

population like, hey, if you are doing this, if you are coming after us, and you're forcing us to shut down or to have 50% of all Dutch farmers to be shut down, because that is realistically what's going to happen at the bare minimum when this goes through, then you will notice it because without farmers, there will be no food. That's what they tried to show the Dutch population. And they have now, I think the official polling is that there's 71% of the Dutch people support the Dutch farmers' cause. So again, the people who rule us- Say that number again. Say that number again for me. How many? 71% of the Dutch people. That's the official poll now. 71% of the Dutch

people support the farmers. I saw that Mick Jagger, who by the way, is a celebrity environmentalist. He had a concert and in the concert through his support for the farmers. So, I mean, there seems to be a bit of a like you said, it doesn't cut down right or left. It's even there's even environmentalists, celebrity ones like Jagger who are saying this isn't fair. What's happening. So I'm fascinated because I think that your little country, which seems so wonderful, the more I learn about the Netherlands, I'm so impressed, exports 97 billion euros worth of food products to other countries. And so you were talking about the impact of their protests on food supply in the Netherlands. But assuming that this goes through what the EU wants to do and farmer, the farming or the farmers are cut back by 50 percent, will there be consequences for other countries? Because we're already seeing food supply strains because of Ukraine.

There's problems in Argentina. And as so often happens, Eva, you know, the third world poorest countries always suffer the most in these globalist schemes. Absolutely. Yes. And I mean, being with the fact that we are the second largest producer, obviously, this will have effect not just on the Dutch population, but on other countries as well. And that's something that people notice.

And we now see that there are, even though they're maybe not as coordinated and as big as in the Netherlands, but there are little uprisings going on in other countries in Europe. So, for example, the German farmers along the border with the Dutch farmers are now protesting as well. They're showing their solidarity and support because they know, again, this is not just something that is going to affect the Dutch. This is something that is down the line going to affect us when it comes to food production. But also, again, it's a globalist scheme. These these are super national rules and regulations that are that are going to affect us at some point as well we're just first and i feel like that's something that people are starting to notice and you know just seeing the food

shortages all around the world and like you said with ukraine and what's happening in swilanka for example right now i feel like people see that it's a very strange move, you know, that there's already such a problem with the production worldwide. Why would you go and shut down farmers? The only answer to that is that it's not about actual care for anything good. It's about control. And I feel like our governments have shown that agenda plenty of times in the past two and a half years when it came to COVID, for example. And I feel like there are a lot of people that are actually waking up to that agenda right now. When you talk about control, it's fascinating to me because, you know, I get the control aspect of governments in this global

movement. But by way of food, if there's not enough food, it's one thing to go, I control all the food sources, but we're talking about not having enough food for the whole world. People are going to starve. People are going to die because there's not enough food to eat because of these policies that are being implemented. And I wonder if, I mean, this isn't really evil thing to say, but they're all concerned about overpopulation. Is this actually what they want as an outcome? Because again, it's a very delicate balance, our global food supply, and you affected it in such profound ways. There will be profound impacts on those who need the resources of the exporting

agricultural communities? Yeah, I think you can look at this in either two ways. You can either say, okay, there is actual malintent here. People are trying to cause these, the establishment is trying to cause food shortages. And with all of the consequences that that has, like you said, people will starve. That is either something that they're consciously doing, or it's something they're not consciously doing, but it is the foreseeable effect of their policy. So I don't really care if they do it on purpose, or if

they're too stupid, or they see what's, you know, they, they're doing it anyway. It's clear that anyone with with just some common sense and their head that's not in a sand, they can see that this is what's going to happen. So we can hold them accountable either way. So that's what I care about most here. Yeah, that's great. In fact, UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres said in June that there are real risks of multiple famines in the world right now. He said that we're going to declare some more in 2022, 2023, that things are going to get worse on that. And, you know, we know also fertilizer costs are up. So it's not easy to be a farmer these days with what's happening in Russia and Ukraine. I mean,

there's a lot of strains on on farmers and their costs. I'm with you 100 percent, Ava, when you say this is an extremely curious move, something you wouldn't want to do to the second largest producer of food. It just boggles my mind. I want to say this as well. of your country's National Dairy Association, he says that it's a small group of very, you know, left wing vegetarians who are leading this. So other people are saying how the immigrants, as you said, that there's a, you know, open border policy, you don't have enough land for housing, you have housing crises. I mean, I suppose it could be all of those things. Sean and I just did a podcast the other day where we were talking about, by the way, all this makes me nervous, Ava, because as you know, our own president is saying that we're

having a climate emergency when, you know, nobody who is, I mean, there's not one poll who says that the American people believe that climate is an emergency right now. I think it's only 1%. So there's a lot of weird stuff happening globally in that regard. And it makes me nervous to see what's happening there because I guess I agree with you. I think that it just doesn't make sense. And so let's go back to what you talked about with the Great Reset. And for those of our listeners who don't know who Klaus Schwab is, who don't understand

what the WEF is and what the UN 2030 is, why don't you give us a little bit of background on that? Sure. Yeah, I'll definitely do that. I think you touched on a lot of great points there that I think we should definitely talk about. that. I think you touched on a lot of great points there that I think we should definitely talk about. What you said about both the housing crisis and let's say the more left-wing vegetarian lobbying groups. Well, another name that just magically appeared in this whole story again

was Bill Gates. So that's something I want to tell you about as well, is that the Dutch minister who is currently pushing this law, this nitrogen law, she has a brother-in-law that owns a online supermarket that appeared during COVID and was just a supermarket that came to your door so you didn't have to go there. Perfect, again, great reset type of lifestyle. And this supermarket had a $600 billion investment last year by none other than Bill Gates. So, you know, see the corruption here? I mean, it's just it has it written all over it. A minister that is pushing for the destruction of our cattle farms, basically, and the expropriation of our farmers has a brother-in-law that has a

supermarket that just received an investment from the man who wants you to eat fake meat, the man who wants you to eat bugs. I mean, it's just, it's so, it's so in front of our eyes, you know, it just, it boggles me that people don't see that. So we just did it. We just were talking that I lost my train of thought. My last question. That's where I was going to. We just did a podcast. We talked a little bit about how they are beginning to to have us transition away from a meat diet and towards, you know, a plant based diet. And in England, they're already having school children. They're experimenting and with introducing, you know, insects and all vegetarian diets here in the United States, in many public schools, they have like a meatless Monday.

They're already beginning this transition of making people believe that they're more virtuous if they don't eat meat. And definitely you're right that Bill Gates has been saying this forever. And it's so comical because he looks to be to me one of the most unhealthy individuals I've ever seen. I think that there are I mean, obviously, I'm not a nutritionist, but I can read and I have common sense. And I do think that incorporating meat in your in your diet is a very wise thing to do. And the fact that all these people that don't have my best interests at heart, we know that for a fact, just look at the fact that all these people that don't have my best interests at heart we know that for

effect just look at the way that they treated us over the past two and a half years i think they've showed their their true colors really when it came to the way that they treated us during covid um well those people telling me that i should be eating bugs doesn't make me think that i should be eating bugs yet they are the ones that are the ones that now have all the power to implement these rules and to take away, again, people's property. You know, just imagine that the state would come into your house and say,

hey, Rachel, I'm going to take away just 30% of everything you've ever worked for. Because that's what's happening to the farmers that are subjected to these rules. And I do see a much bigger scheme behind this. And there are a lot of lobby groups with a lot of financial interest involved. And for some reason, it just all ends up with you having to give up your rights, farmers having to stop their work, and with our kids and ourselves eating bugs and synthetic meat. And I don't trust it for one bit.

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Visit scotiabank.com slash rightsizesavings for full details. You know, Ava, you probably aren't really thinking about the underserved and the poor and the transgender community, who I'm sure these policies are really going to help, right? They keep telling us climate change affects, you know, the minority communities in America, climate change affects transgenders at a higher rate than everyone else. That's the stupidity that we get in our country. I'm not sure if you get it there. But you oftentimes talk about, and I think this is incredibly important. You talk about the second amendment in the United States and you, and you said it in this conversation,

I've heard you say it on Tucker and you say, don't give it up. These conversations in our country about who needs an assault rifle. You don't need that to go deer hunting. And what happens is you, our founders in America didn't bring us the Second Amendment because we wanted to go hunting. They gave us the Second Amendment so there was an equality of power, of balance between the people and their government. You look at what's happening right now in China. You have protesters who can't go withdraw money from the bank.

Their bank accounts have been frozen, which, by the way, we should all be concerned about a national digital currency where you have no cash. The government controls it. That's a different podcast. But they have no means to fight back. They can use rocks and sticks while the government has tanks. And I'm not a revolutionary by any stretch, but I'm saying there's a balance of power

that comes when the citizenry have firearms to push back against a tyrannical government. And I think in our country, we're losing sight of why our founders gave us the Second Amendment. And you can probably look at your own country and go, maybe it'd be great if we did have a Second Amendment here. And again, I'm not advocating for any kind of anarchy or but there is a balance that comes when you have you know people who have the ability to push back and fight back against their government absolutely i mean from an outsider's perspective being dutch not having a second amendment when i look at you guys and when i look at your constitution and what

your founding fathers intended with the Second Amendment for is this. It's you have the means to stand up against a tyrannical government and you still understand the idea that the government might not be your friend, that there might be people infiltrating in this government, or even, like I said, again, like what's happening in Europe, non-elected officials that are ruling your country that you had nothing to say about, that you can't defend yourself against the moment they start to use violence against you,

because that happened with the farmers. And we saw this, that they were doing all of this great, brave, courageous protest. But the moment the police comes in with arms and shoots, which is actually what they did, they shot at a 16-year-old boy that was driving away from the protest, then you stand defenseless. And that's why I, from an outsider's perspective, being in America, sometimes I tell people, please see why you have this. It's so important that you safeguard it because we don't stand a chance. At the end of the day, you can protest all you want, but you don't stand a chance when they bring out the the day, you can protest all you want, but you don't stand a chance when they bring out the big guns.

But the thing is, is that I think Western tyranny or globalist tyranny wants you to believe that that's not what they'll do. So that's why they're bringing out all the pretty words. That's why they're saying this is for your own best interest. They're doing this to fight a crisis. You know, if we don't do this, everyone's going to die because of the climate. If we don't take your rights away,

everyone is going to die of COVID. You know, they'll always come up with a crisis, oftentimes a made up crisis that justifies, so to say, their power grab. That's the tactic. That's what they do. And if you don't see that, then it's going to happen

and it's going to be too late before you realize we need to do something against this. And even for people now waking up, if you don't have the means to defend yourself, the future looks grim. So that's what I'll say about it. I feel like America has a

much better fighting chance when it comes to this than Europe does, for sure, because of the Second Amendment. And Sean, you keep saying, you know, I'm not for revolution. I mean, there is a time and a place for revolution. But again, it goes back to what Ronald Reagan said. There's peace through strength. Right. And I think what restrains are the bad elements in the government, people who might want to do harm, as Ava talks about, people who don't have the interests of the people at heart, what restrains them is the fact that we are armed. And that's why they want to disarm us. And so your prime minister is on record calling the farmers assholes and accusing them of being violent.

When, as you said, the only person who was shot at was a young boy by the government, by police. So you're absolutely right about that. So you also talked about elements that infiltrate. So you think you have this democracy or a democratic republic as we have here. But there are forces, globalist forces that are infiltrating. And it's not a secret conspiracy theory. I mean, you can go on social media. I just pulled up a clip of Klaus Schwab bragging in one of these, you know, W.E. World Economic Forum Q&A is where he's bragging about how many young leaders have come through their W.E.F. program and how many are are not just installed as prime ministers, whether it's, you know The president of Argentina, they're all over. But he brags about how many of the cabinets are almost, you know, more than half full of people who are more committed to these globalist W.E.F. policy than they are to the nationalist national interests of their country. And I have to say, when I mention our names, like Mrs. Merkel, even Vladimir Putin and so on,

they all have been young global leaders of the World Economic Forum. But what we are very proud of now is the young generation, like Prime Minister Trudeau, President of Argentina and so on, that we penetrate the cabinets. So yesterday I was at a reception for Trudeau and I would know that half of this cabinet or even more half of this cabinet are for our actually young global leaders of the world. So maybe this might be a good time for you to talk a little bit about what that is, because I think I think you're right. I think COVID has really pulled the curtain back on this on Klaus Schwab, his movement

within the WEF and what he's been working on since the 70s. Absolutely. Yeah. So what I think is really interesting to know or what I've noticed as a European here in America is that there are a lot of people who want you guys to believe that Europe, for some reason, is more democratic than America, which I find to be hilarious and sad to hear, to be honest, because my country, for example, we have in the last elections, we had 37 parties that were running. That sounds like and, you know, I know people say, oh, that's so much more democratic than when you have a two party system. Well, it's not when all of these people just, you know, have their their election talks. And then at the end, when they're elected, they all throw their differences overboard and they turn out to be having the exact same agenda because they've all gone to the exact same talking clubs is what they call them, such as the World Economic Forum. And they follow a globalist line. So because that's what is happening for us. You know, you have basically just a play

pretend show right before the elections where people pretend to have differences these parties pretend to have differences and then they form a coalition and suddenly it's it's all of these these agenda points that you can see in the 2030 agenda you can see in in the in the the um communication that they have with the world economic forum and in the eu it's all the same type of globalist idea where, again, global crises such as COVID or the climate, you know, are used as a cover up to implement policies on a national level without actually going through the national parliaments. So that happens with the World Economic Forum. happens with the World Economic Forum. You know, they say it's just a talking club, but yet we have all of these ministers and you have Klaus Schwab saying, like you said, we penetrate the governance proudly. You know, that's highly anti-democratic, obviously. And an institution like the European Union makes, in the Netherlands, the majority of our laws. And we don't even choose these people, you know? So it's something that

is happening on a large scale. And they have a lot of say in our everyday life, basically. Well, like I said, even something like this, where it's about your own property that's taken away under the guise of a made-up crisis. That happens. And it happened with COVID, with the restriction of movement in the European Union, not being able to travel if you were unvaccinated. All of that came from international policies out of these institutions that wasn't decided by the Dutch people. Eva, explain to us, what is the 2030 Project? What are they trying to do? So if you go to the UN and you Google 2030 agenda, you'll see that they have all of these goals, the sustainable development goals is what they call them. And they sound, again, you'll see, very noble. It's gender equality. It's net zero.

We have to fight climate change. We have to fight inequality or all of these things that sound great. But then you have to think about, OK, but how do we reach those goals? And their answer to it is always a globalist, basically communist policy that you have nothing to say about. And so, again, it's this I would it's, that's their tactic. They give you a noble sounding goal and they give you the answer. And the answer is always that you have to give up your rights. So I would just urge everyone to go online and look at these goals to see and think, okay, let's turn what they say around 180 degrees. Cause then you have to choose.

Yeah. And you know, it's so interesting because even here in the state, so, I mean, these are elite elitists elites who think they And, you know, it's so interesting because even here in the state. So, I mean, these are elite elitists, elites who think they are, you know, they kind of have a God complex where they think they can, you know, manage the world. And then the rest of us will, as they say, own nothing and we'll just all be happy living under their, you know, their global rules. their, their global rules. I, I, I've seen that they've infiltrated and they actually have many people funding this into even like, like community, like County boards here in the United States where we think we have so much local control. And Sean and I always talk about the importance of, you know,

people getting involved in a local level, but they know that about the United States, and they've actually infiltrated with these groups into even little towns and county boards. And so whenever you hear things, these are some buzzwords, and I heard you saying them, Ava, and I thought, I want to leave people with some thoughts about this, of what they can do. And I also want to ask you after this, what Americans can do to support the farmers, the Dutch farmers. But here are some buzzwords that you mentioned. I'm going to add a couple more. So global governance, net zero emissions, smart growth, climate change, climate emergency, COVID emergency, stakeholders, sustainability, sustainable growth, inclusion, diversity, or anytime they say

they want you to reimagine anything, your antennas should be going up. And you may be hearing about this in your little town board, you know, county board meeting or your town hall meeting. And all of a sudden, you know, that's a funded group from all of these, you know, different, you know, Soros and WEF. And they have all these different names that they come under and they fund these groups and try to organize. So just as you said, you think that this is coming organically from the community, but this is actually coming from these very globalist organizations. And again, it sounds kind of conspiratorial, but I think everyone's getting after COVID that that's not the case.

So the Dutch farmers, Ava, have said that they sort of emulated the Canadian truckers and the way that they're protesting. What can Americans do? Because a lot of Americans did support the Canadian truckers and their efforts. What can Americans do to support the farmers there? Oh, yeah, that would be so great. Well, first of all, I know that the Dutch farmers

feel very supported by just positive messages about them on social media, sharing their content, sharing their protests and recognizing that this is an international fight. So because here, honestly, at home, the way that the Dutch media, mainstream media talks about the farmers, our prime minister, how condescending he speaks of them. You know, these people, if they would look just at our national media, they think that they would be standing completely alone. So just your help and having people like me on or anyone else who talks about this is already a great help. So thank you so very much for that. And then if you want to help them, for example,

financially, there is a group called Farmers Defense Force. They are receiving donations now because they will need it because the police comes after them and finds them, for example, the moment they block a road. So they will need some money to help against the legal fees and the legal fines that they are going to be receiving because the Dutch state's cracking down on them real hard. So it's a matter of buying them time because what their government's hoping is that they'll at some point give out under the pressure that they're putting on them financially and also forcefully with the violence that they are able to use against them.

So I would say go to a group like Farmers Defense Force and see what you can do for them. Ava, that is wonderful. And listen, we appreciate your clarity and your common sense and being a great voice in the States. Again, you've done a fantastic job just not promoting the Dutch farmers, but you've given a warning sign, not just to us, but to the rest of the world. It doesn't stop here. This can continue in your country. This is a global movement. This is a global effort. So we should all stand together. Those of us who love freedom, who love food, who love meat, should stand together to go. We all have to push back together and fight together to make sure we can

beat this globalist movement, which by the way, and we all know this comes from a lot of money. Some of the wealthiest people are part of this movement that want to take our individual, our personal rights away from us so we can give them to them, the elite, so they can, they can manage our lives and our economies and our kids. And again, I appreciate all you're doing. You've been a wonderful voice. Yeah, I agree. You're standing not just up for your people, but for your, as Sean said,

a warning to the rest of the world. And by the way, a warning sign about these famines that are to come if we allow these globalists to take charge of farming, something I think farmers probably know a little bit more about. Oh yeah, absolutely. You know that, I mean, like I said, the food supply, controlling the food supply and making people believe that it's not you who caused this, because that's obviously not what they want.

They'll say it's an external crisis, like with Ukraine, or it's the climate, or it's something else, you know, but we're here to save you is the most dangerous rhetoric that you can imagine so this i i i wouldn't put it past them that they'll come up with the genius qr code system where if food rationings need to be uh implemented because otherwise we would there would be violence because everyone you know we need the supply to be divided equally i'm just saying i'm just mentioning something you know that i need the supply to be divided equally. I'm just saying, I'm just mentioning something, you know, that I see for possible. And oh, what system should we use for that? Well, oh, didn't we have those great vaccine passports, digital QR codes that you can scan?

That's a great plan. Oh, might use that for this right now. And oh, it's all for you. We're just trying to keep you safe. We're just trying to make sure that everyone gets food equally because, you know, these are just hard times. I'm sorry if I'm sounding cynical. No, you're not.

This is the way that I see these people. And I think that this is something they could possibly do. Of course. The Chinese social credit score system, being able to surveil and monitor people, their purchases, their movements, all of this are things that these people who run these globalist organizations like Bill Gates, like Klaus Schwab, they admire the Chinese system and openly say so.

So did Justin Trudeau and many of the people that have come through this WEF system. So, listen, you are a powerful voice. You've penetrated in a way. It's interesting. You're all the way over there, and we're trying to get a feel for what's going on in Europe. But we're over here. And I will tell you that your voice, many people I know know who you are. Your voice is penetrating. People are more aware than ever because of the pandemic. And you should be very proud of yourself for the good work you're doing in helping give a voice to these farmers in your country and a warning to the world. You're a really impressive young woman. We're really, really honored that you were joining us today at our kitchen table. Hopefully, if you come to the States,

we'll just have to have a real cup of coffee instead of a virtual one with you one of these days. Absolutely. Well, I'm engaged to an American, so that is definitely possible. Oh, great. Congratulations. Thank you. Thank you so much. Does he have an easier last name? Oh, definitely. Yes. Yeah. You might know him. His name is Will Witt. So W-I-T-T is going to be the name. So much easier. But I'm drinking, you know, I might just keep my maiden name to just, you know, make it so hard on all of you guys. It's fun for me. But thank you so much. Yeah, yeah. Well, thank you so much for your ever so kind words. I really appreciate it. And I really, like I said, I really appreciate the opportunity to come in and talk about these things because it's very important for my people.

But I also really feel and care for a country like America that I really don't want you guys to go down the same path. You're like someone like Dennis Prager always says, America is the best last hope. And I really, truly believe that. So I'm happy to help where I can. Thank you so much, Ava. We appreciate you joining us at the kitchen table. Congratulations on your engagement as well. Will Witt is a handsome fellow. So, um, like, uh, like it's, it would be hard to imagine just, it would be like almost like

painfully good looking kids. Um, so, uh, you guys are definitely the type of work you do at being able able to as a couple to do this type of work Together I mean that's something that Will and I definitely Look to and are inspired by So I mean we should go on a double day I would love that You two will be an amazing powerhouse Congratulations on all you're doing

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FanDuel makes betting on the NFL easier than ever before. So make the most of this football season and download FanDuel today. 19 plus and physically located in Ontario. Gambling Palm, call 1-866-531-2600 or visit connectsontario.ca. That was an incredibly fascinating interview, Sean. I also really found it fascinating when she first started

talking about how the government, she felt, wasn't just taking on the farmers because of the climate and maybe the housing, but that there was something about the spirit and frankly, the land ownership and probably wealth of the farmers that they you know, they have this independent spirit. And, you know, in any communist revolution, they always have to take out those who are independent minded first, whether it was, you know, the college professors or the merchants, they have to take those people out first. And in the case of the Netherlands, the independent spirit of the farmers is something they're trying to kill. They absolutely are. And I thought she laid that out incredibly well. And again, if you don't need the government for food or housing or health care, you are free and independent of need.

You can make decisions that you think are best for your country, your community and for your family. They don't like that. That means that means you have too much power and too much control, and they want to roll that back. I thought it was fascinating when she was talking about the food distribution and how we're going to have equality through food distribution. The government's going to say, we're the ones here. They're going to be able to implement these programs. I couldn't help. We always go back to Ronald Reagan, but when he said the most dangerous words in the English language, I'm, I'm from the government and I'm here to help. It's like, Oh God. Oh, good gravy. Here we go. I almost brought it up, Sean. I almost brought it up too, because that's so true. And she, and again, like this, you know, what she's saying about Europe,

That's so true. And again, like this, you know what she's saying about Europe, how they think they're democratic. But actually, these other forces are moving and and making decisions for people. And so, yeah, you're going to the ballot box. But all of this is preordained through these, you know, super government, global governance entities. government, global governance entities. And I do think it's far more advanced in Europe. I think a lot of poor countries are being strong-armed into these kinds of decisions. They're being extorted with foreign aid or whatever in order to take on these. You saw so many poor countries that were forced to have

100% vaccination and saw their their tourist industries, you know, totally decimated. And they had to do it because, you know, if they wanted the money from, you know, the IMF or the or the or the, you know, or health care from the WHO. I mean, being forced to do things that aren't in the interest of your country because you're dependent on these government entities. But that's happening here too, Sean. Well, I think it's interesting. Here you had all these European countries that are all self-governed and they had this concept that we were going to be an EU. It's kind of like all of our states were independent and they formed a national government. And the national government has a lot of control over our states. The EU has a lot of

control over these European countries, which is what's happening with these mandates that are affecting the farmers. But, you know, I have a hard time wrapping my head around the people who aren't in the elite, the people who, you know, aren't in power, who are supportive of these policies. And I do think many of them are good people. I think they're misguided. And I don't think they're thinking through the consequences of the policy. I think the people who care about their fellow man, they don't want people to starve to death.

They don't want global famine. But they think that them addressing the climate crisis, and that's in air quotes, by these policies is going to make the world a better place. But they don't realize what they're supporting is taking people's freedom away, taking democracy away, but also bringing a crisis to the world's doorstep in people's ability to eat food, which is like, again, I don't think they know that. I don't think most people who support these policies are not bad people. They're just misguided. The bad people are the ones at the World Economic Forum who are supporting the policies. These are

the evil men behind the curtain, pulling strings, getting people to buy into their movement and support their movement. And those people have no idea what they actually want to accomplish. Justin Trudeau is a communist. He is a commie. I have no problem saying that on this podcast. I will say it on Fox News. He is a communist. We all know his history, by the way, his family's history with with Castro. We all know, you know, his associations with the W.E.F. his associations with the WEF and his on-the-record admiration for the Chinese Communist Party. But also, he was a tyrant during that Canadian trucker protest, and he showed his colors on that. So before we go, I really love, Sean, that you brought up our Second Amendment. And I thought her response was spot on and really interesting. But besides holding on to the Second Amendment, as somebody who's been in Congress, who understands how our system works, what else can we do or make sure we don't do in order to make us more American and not more European or not more Chinese.

Because as you know, when we went into the pandemic, Sean, you heard me say this a thousand times. I was afraid we were going to come out of this pandemic more Chinese than American. And I sadly have to say I was right about that. You were right. And it's sad for our country. It's sad for democracy. Listen, I've had an evolution on the Second Amendment, if I'm really honest about it. I've always supported gun rights. I've always, you know, been a defender of the Second Amendment. But again, I bought into the idea that, you know, it's like I want to be able to, you know, have the freedom to fire a firearm. People want to go hunting. Don't take their rights

away. Like that was kind of my, my young manhood view of the second amendment. And I have progressed to the point now where I wouldn't, I would not vote for any common sense. And I put that in quotes to air quotes, common sense, as the liberals will say policies to take away any law abiding citizens, right. To bear, to, to, to buy or bear a firearm. Because what I've noticed is the liberals whatever policy you agree to they are they don't stop there their movement is to take away your guns to take away the second amendment to make sure you don't have a right to possess and buy a firearm that's what they want why would i give them one inch? I'm going to preserve every single American's right to buy a

pistol, to buy a rifle, to buy an AR. You have a right if you're a law abiding citizen to bear arms. And again, I never thought of it like this, but you've seen how governments have become tyrannical, how the power that was given to them by the people is now being abused, and they're abusing the people. And the only way people have the ability to keep them at bay is to go, we could be dangerous, leave us alone. Right? I mean, and that's what the founders thought about when they put the Second Amendment in place. And if you want to make sure you can silence the people, take away the right to defend themselves. Take their guns away. And if you do, they can't push back at all because the government then has all the weapons, all the tanks, all the equipment. And again, this, this,

I think this sounds a little bit odd and I've never thought like this, but a way it's a balance of power. We have tyrannical people in a tyrannical government that want to do tyrannical things. And that's because, Sean, our founders didn't see people as they wish them. They see them as they are. And human nature is flawed. And, you know, we're not going to be governed by angels all the time, right? There are going to be people who are tyrannical.

I mean, you just have to be part of any club and know that there are people who just are like that. You give them a tiny bit of power and they just go crazy. I mean, I don't care if you're running the Kiwanis Club or your, you know, your parent, you know, the parent teacher association, there are just people who like power. And when you put this, when somebody like that takes over, you know, And when you put this when somebody like that takes over, you know, nationally, you know, people like AOC, people like Justin Trudeau, these are people who want to control other people. They don't take pleasure in you making your own decision for some reason. The way their their psychology is, the way they are, the way they've been indoctrinated in school. They want to control things and they want to control you. And that's just not who we are as Americans. And that is why our founders did what they did. I do believe it was divinely inspired. And I do believe it's for

moments like they went through. And I think moments like we're going through. And I think us having guns and being and boy, do we we have guns and we have lots of bullets in our family. And we're in we're in Wisconsin right now. I'm telling you, they they won't even try this in Wisconsin because so many people have guns and so many people have bullets. They just can't. It's a deterrent, as you said. So you asked me a question about what what do we have to do in government? And I want to make two points on that. Number one, when you look at the Supreme Court, when you have justices that were nominated by Republican presidents, not all of them, but many of them believe that the words

have meaning in the Constitution. They're strict constructionists, that this document is our set of guiding principles. It's not a living, breathing document that can be changed with the times. No, it is a crystal clear set of guidelines by which this country is governed. And liberals oftentimes see this as a document for guidance, but it's supposed to have air to it and breathe and change with the times, which is why they can take away. And not just change the times, but change with emotions, right? If we're all emotionally upset about what happened in Uvalde, does that mean we change the Constitution, Sean? Does that mean that, so if I have one bad actor with a gun, does that mean I

take law-abiding actors' guns away? That's the jump that they make. And so that's that's the courts are incredibly important in who's on the court and how they see that founding document. That's number one. Number two. Right. And when that when so when when I came to Congress, when Barack Obama was president, I advocated to my fellow Democrats, we should take power away from the executive, give it back to the Congress so we are again a co-equal branch. By the way, we are not right now a co-equal branch of government. If you can't pass a bill, that means the bill is probably not a good bill that all of America, which is all of the Congress, doesn't agree to it. So it shouldn't be done by the executive.

If the Congress can't pass it, that doesn't mean then the executive does it. You're talking about all these executive orders. Is that what you're talking about? if the Congress can't pass it, that doesn't mean then the executive does it. You're talking about all these executive orders. Is that what you're talking about? I'm talking about executive orders, but I'm talking about rules and regulations that come from the agencies of government, both of them. And so then even when Donald Trump was elected, and I loved his policies, and you know that I love his policies, you love them too. He made our country better. But I went to Democrats as well and said we should now at this point, we should take power away from the executive, even though it was Republican president. And I agree with what he was doing. House and a third of the Senate up every two years and making them vote on big things that can move the country in directions that can be really good or really bad. That's a positive. These decisions should not be made by unelected bureaucrats in agencies, which is what's happened.

And so we have to get back to this balance of power, that Congress that's responsive to the people have to be making big moves. It shouldn't be the EPA. It shouldn't be the Department of Education. It shouldn't be other agencies that are doing bold, big things that are affecting our everyday lives. That was supposed to come from the Congress. Let's reclaim that power. And now, am I hopeful that that's going to happen? I'm not. I'm pretty concerned. In order for that to happen, do we have to de-unionize so many of these federal workers who work for the federal government? Because they seem to be like, we talked about the deep state. I mean, part of it is, was sinister. I believe there was a deep state, but I also think it's just that, you know, you can't fire them. They're going to outlive the politicians. They just have power by virtue of being there for so long. In terms of breaking

down that, you know, taking back some of the power from the administrative state, from the agencies, from the regulators. Is that about the union protections they have? Or is it more than that? That is job one. Take away union protections. So when a new administration comes in, if you're not on board for the new administration, you're fired. If you're going to thwart the administration, you're fired.

Now, I say that with a caveat. I do think having institutional memory in these agencies is a good thing. Yeah. Right. But it's not a good thing, not a good thing if they're thwarting a president who was elected by, you know, the American people and through our system. And then they think that they have more power than the president that was elected and they thwart the ideas of the president. And I can say that sometimes, not very often, you would have conservatives that would thwart Barack Obama. And I was happy with that. But I'm happy with that in an instant. But if I'm looking at good government, you shouldn't have conservatives in the deep state thwarting Barack Obama. And you shouldn't have people in

the deep state thwarting Donald Trump. And you have that all over the map. And as a conservative, virtually 95 percent, I'm pulling that out of the air, almost all of them are liberals in government. I think that's what Obama did, too. I think they always were probably more liberal, but it seems like people were installed in key positions for which they can never be fired during the Obama administration. I think he grew that and installed a lot of ideological allies of his in there. And I think that's why there was so much thwarting and coordinated thwarting

of what Donald Trump was trying to do. Which is why he couldn't, even though he wanted to, it was so hard for him to change course because the bureaucracy of government wouldn though he wanted to, it was so hard for him to change course, because the bureaucracy of government wouldn't allow him to do it. It was incredibly challenging. And so the next Republican president should be thinking about how am I dealing with the deep state so I can accomplish my objectives and my goals. And the way it's supposed to work is you might go in one direction with one kind of president and you might elect the complete opposite and you might go in a completely different direction. But that's what the people asked for. And that's the way our government should work.

Those two things, the court's important and the deep state is important. And the deep state is part of this balance of the executive and the Congress. And the deep state wouldn't be able to do all that they're doing to thwart the Congress if the Congress reclaimed its power. I hope that makes sense. Oh, God, it sure does. I'm glad we're going to leave this podcast with some hopefulness. First of all, I think, you know, having Eva come in and talk about what's happening, I think information is power. The more we know, the more we know we're not crazy. The more we take seriously what they're telling us. If you just do a little bit of a dive into your social media

and look up people like Klaus Schwab, Bill Gates, look at what the WEF is standing for, what the UN is doing with their 2030 project, all of agenda, all of these things are things that you can get more informed in and you can, you know, listen to those buzzwords that we talked about, sustainability, net zero emissions, reimagining, inclusivity, smart growth, sustainability, stakeholders, all of these buzzwords that you'll hear in your own town meetings. You know, the more you know, the better. And then as Sean said, as you said, Sean, I think looking at this from from what we can do through elections to put in people who, you know, still believe in in in the way the way our founders envisioned our country and all of us getting more familiar with our own constitution and our own rights and our own really rich, amazing tradition. I mean, Sean, weren't you really struck by when Ava was talking that she, you can tell

she's somebody who, you know, I know she's marrying an American, but you can tell even beyond that, she's meant to be an American. She has that American 1776 spirit. And you realize what we have that they don't have in Europe. No, you're 100% right. And she's one of the immigrants. Open arms. Come on in, Ava. You'll make the country a better place. Yeah, for sure. No doubt she will. A more beautiful place, too, by the way. A more beautiful place. Her and Will Witt, boy, what an amazing, gorgeous couple they're going to make. And make a difference in the conservative movement here in the United States because

they definitely understand and appreciate our heritage and our liberty-minded founders. So on that note, Sean, what a great discussion. I could keep going, but we're going to have to leave it here and come back around to the kitchen table next week. I know you could. This was your topic today that you picked, and I love it. It was great, and I enjoyed the conversation. And if you liked our podcast, you can rate, review, subscribe to our podcast.

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