From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - The Pro-Life Fight & The Future Of The Monarchy

Episode Date: September 22, 2022

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down with the Founder and President of Live Action, Lila Rose to discuss her recent appearance on the Dr. Phil Show where she debated Dr. Phil about abortion. Lila talks about the need for pro-life activists to speak out on their beliefs and the lack of media space for those who hold those beliefs.   Later, Host of the To Di For Daily podcast and Royal Expert Kinsey Schofield joins to share about the Queen's funeral, discuss the controversy surrounding Prince Harry and Meghan Markle, and the future of the crown under King Charles III.   Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So you can look and feel good about gifting and wearing them. Shop your wishlist 25% off at Mijeri.com today. Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my co-host of the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. Thank you, Sean. It's so great to be back at our kitchen table with all of our listeners. And today we have a real treat. We're going to, first of all, we can't forget about the Queen and everything that's happened there. We're still doing royal news, whether you like it or not. We could forget about the Queen, but we're not going to. And we're going to be joined by an amazing guest, Kinsey Schofield, who knows all the royal juicy gossip. And it's still going.

But before we get there, we're going to bring in an old dear friend of ours, Sean. Somebody we love and respect. The president of live action, Lila Rose. Lila, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. Hi, Rachel. Hi, Sean. How are you guys doing? Good. It's so great to have you. You know, every time you do a hit, I almost always try to text you and tell you how amazing you are. But boy, you really went viral. Sean and I were actually overseas on vacation together all the way in Mallorca, Spain. And we heard about what happened

to you on Dr. Phil. So I wanted to give you a chance to kind of lay out, first of all, why you decided to go on Dr. Phil, because I understand there's some... It can be edited, I guess. And that's kind of a risk. It is a risk. And, you know, as you know, Rachel, and you both know so well, in media, there's so much bias. And especially in a lot of the legacy media, you know, Dr. Phil's show has been on television for what, 20 years now, it's network TV. And it is a pro abortion show. You know, unfortunately, I think he says he's Christian and other things like that. But he does side with the abortion side. And so we knew a lot of that going in, but I felt very strongly if he's going to address abortion on his show, which he'd never done before, this was the premiere episode for the season.

I wanted to have the opportunity to make sure the pro-life side was at least represented. And so that's why I chose to join, even knowing that it would be a lot of people on the pro-abortion side and very few on the pro-life side and knowing that they could edit, they had the power of edit. It was live to tape, but they could cut out. And they did cut out things that I said in the final edit. And they cut out an exchange that I had with the head of the National Organization for Women, a very pro-abortion group, unfortunately. And I was pressing her on the fact that they support abortion up through all nine months. And they cut out most of our conversation, you know, most of that exchange as an example,

because she kept dodging the question. So, you know, but the bottom line is, I think in the end, the truth does show. And I thought that in the end, the truth did, we were able to get the truth out and the pro-abortion side on the show. And even Dr. Phil wasn't prepared for that when the truth was presented. So I don't know a little bit, we're going to play a clip of an exchange you had with an audience member. But first, how was Dr. Phil? Was he fair with you? Do you think he had an open mind to what you had to say? Or better yet, did you get the better of Dr. Phil? I think he was, honestly,

I think he was blindsided. You know, we had an exchange about the science when life begins, and he was erroneously claiming, we don't know, it's this big mystery, it's up for debate, you can Google it. I mean, it's nonsense, you know, biology 101, it tells you in your human biology textbook. So he was, surprisingly, he seemed unprepared for the pro-life position. He was kind of using the old tired talking points of the pro-abortion side. And I think that generally the media today is they're so pro-abortion when the pro-life side is presented in a good way. They're blindsided.

They don't even know how to respond because they are so used to being in their bubble of pro-abortion talking points. Yeah, they're so used to the cliches. So can I tell you, and we are going to play a clip, but I'm sure our listeners are just dying to hear those who didn't get a chance to see it. And by the way, can you Google and get the whole thing, I suppose. Here's what I thought after I saw it, Lila. I thought, who is the producer that decided that they should call live action and bring in Lila Rose? I thought maybe that guy or woman might be fired by now because they couldn't have picked a better for the pro life side person to come forward. And I think this exchange that we're going to play right now between you and an audience member is a perfect example of how you approach the issue of life in a way that so

many pro-lifers can learn from because you always come forward with compassion first and facts. And you kept your cool. You were cool, calm and collective. And it was super impressive. And I think in the end, extremely powerful. So let's play that and let our listeners hear what happened. You have no empathy. Abortion is devastating to women's mental health. No one talks about that. The year after a woman has an abortion.

You know what it's really like? The year after a woman. To have the child. What kind of trauma is that? The trauma is from the rape. The trauma is from the rape. The child year after a woman to have the child? What kind of trauma is that that you're inducing on somebody? The trauma is from the rape. The child's an innocent party there. The child isn't born yet.

It's not there. We should not take out generational sin on a child to say there's generational sin and that dad was an abuser so the child should be killed. That's not fair to the child. We're talking about rights.

And he just said, we've been taken, a right has been taken away from us. And what is I want to address that because our fundamental human right that we all share in this room is life. It's the first human right. Laws are meant to protect the weak in a society. Who's the weakest? Who's the weakest in the society? A child, but whether you live 10 minutes or 10 years or a hundred years, you're human life and you have the right to not be killed.

Yeah. I mean, it was just so powerful. And I think when you actually see it and you see the woman in the audience, she was filled with so much anger. And I mean, I assumed she had had one. And I guess what I think you brought out was, abortion is not the end of women's problems. It's really the beginning of a whole new set of problems, isn't it? That's so well said, Rachel. And I've been privileged to talk to over the years, hundreds and hundreds of women who've had abortions, you know, people that are close to me, people that, you know, we've interviewed and, you know, people who used to work in the abortion industry. And they bravely share their stories that they were they felt they were lied to,

they felt they were backed into a corner. And so they chose abortion, and they regret it. And, you know, their stories are so important. And they're not being told by mainstream media, you know, but they're so important, because when other women, especially young women, hear that actually abortion doesn't empower, it doesn't solve your life's problems. It creates, like you said, a set of new problems. And then when they're connected to other options, real choices, support for them and their child, if they choose to make an adoption plan, the options, all the different ways that they can do that and still feel in control of the process. There's so many things and resources out there for women. And it's our job at Live Action to try to be a mouthpiece for those women and their stories. And then also to

be that connection point for resources because so many women are left in the dark on purpose by Planned Parenthood and by a legacy media because they have a pro-abortion agenda. And that is a terrible tragedy and injustice to those women. You know, what I loved about the clip, Lila, was the fact that you remained so calm and so cool and so smart when you had someone on the other side who was obviously very angry, very short, interrupting. And I love the point. I mean, I gave a floor speech once in Congress talking about the voiceless and the defenseless. You know, little babies don't have lobbyists that they can't raise money. They can't petition. They can't storm the Supreme Court.

They can't wear pink hats. Can't put on pink hats. Yeah, they can't do any of that. And so they rely on good people like you in this movement to say, you know what? The most defenseless, the most voiceless, we're going to stand up for, and we are going to fight for, and make sure they do have a voice through us, which I think is so powerful and so noble. And again, to go into the lion's den, I also want to commend you because I used to do a lot of CNN and be like, why do you go on CNN? I'm like, listen, we have to talk to everybody. We need to go into every nook and cranny because we're right. The truth will penetrate into dark spaces. Light will penetrate

darkness. And I love that that's what you did on Dr. Phil. It's like, I'll go in. I'm so confident in what I know and how I can communicate that I'm going to jump into the lion's den and I will fight for those little babies and give them a voice. What was it like when you left the stage? I mean, what was the environment in the studio after all of this? I mean, it was very hostile. Dr. Phil did this thing at the end where he said, he said to the audience who here and he said, supports a woman's right to not be interfered with her body by the government. I mean, something wildly, the framing of it was wildly biased, right? And like every hand shot shoots up, you know, in support of abortion. And it's not, I mean, we're in Los Angeles,

right? So what do you expect? And so it's like, okay, we have a lot of friends here today. But, you know, listen, like, like you just said, Sean, the truth has that power to penetrate, you know, and I'm one among many in our movement. And, you know, Live Action's whole mission is change hearts and minds. And we're not going to change hearts and minds on abortion by just talking to each other. You know, those that agree, we have to go to those hostile spaces. And that means, you know, whether we're doing digital advertising online at live action or billboard campaign, or, you know, hostile media, you know, I would go on CNN every day if they let me, you know, to talk about this and other things. And I do think when people learn the truth, they change, you know, to talk about this and other things. And I do think when people

learn the truth, they change. You know, I had a really interesting conversation after the interview with the head of NOW, and it felt like she was kind of a little soft to it. I don't think she... What did you say with her? Tell us about that. Yeah. So this is, you know, the pro-abortion head of the National Organization for Women. We're debating about this. And afterwards, I'm talking to her and I said, listen, I said, you know, you're a feminist, you know, I consider myself, you know, a classical feminist, there's a lot of pro-life feminists, they don't feel they have a seat at your table. And you you claim to represent all women. And she said, Yeah, no, I hear you. Like she, she actually like, listen, for a minute, I think she had some good intentions.

I think she's caught up in this pro-abortion mania, you know, that like, exists. And I think she, it made her think twice, you know, she, she actually listened to what I said. I said, would you like to get a coffee sometime? And she said, yes, she would be, she would be open to that. So, you know, stuff like that gives me a lot of hope because listen, Dr. Bernard Nathanson helped start some of the most, one of the most pro-abortion organizations in America, you know, back in the seventies and he committed over 50,000 abortions. He most pro-abortion organizations in America back in the 70s, and he committed over 50,000 abortions. He became pro-life decades later. These conversions happen. Abby Johnson worked in a Planned Parenthood abortion clinic. She became pro-life later. Those conversions happened and are happening if we're willing to be loving and firm and share the truth.

And I'm also on a mission to change media because I don't think, you know, when the curtains went down on the Dr. Phil show, I just thought, where are our shows? You know, where's our, where's our day? I mean, Fox is doing some great things, but we need more. Like where's our daytime television and why is it all so lockstep, illogical, pro-abortion and, and, you know, pro all of these other crazy things, pro-abortion and pro all of these other crazy things, sexualizing of children. I mean, our media has gone totally bonkers, right? So I'm hopeful that there's going to be a new revival in media, just like there will be in people's hearts with just the power of sharing the truth and doing it lovingly, but very boldly, without compromise.

lovingly, but very boldly, without compromise. I love that you talked to the woman from now. There's so much conflict in the feminist movement right now anyway, with transgenderism and classical feminists who fought for women in sports and fought for women's spaces and prisons and domestic shelters and all this stuff. There's just a lot of turmoil right now. And I love that you're in that mix, Lila and stirring the pot and making people, you know, see the facts and you're so right. People's minds can be changed and science is on our side.

Fetal development. I mean, we've been proven over and over again with 40 ultrasounds, with everything that's happening. It's just amazing to me how much we've been edified and legitimized by science itself. So Lila, give us your last word here on what you hope to accomplish both through your appearance on Dr. Phil, what your hopes are for live action and just for the future moving forward, especially here in this new post Roe versus Wade America that we live in. Thank you. Well, listen, I know it's a post Roe versus Wade world. Wow. It is amazing.

I think now is a time of limitless opportunity if we're willing to take advantage of it and have the tenacity and the strategy and the bravery to make the differences we need to make. And I want our live action creates life-changing and life-saving content. It changes minds. It's statistically proven too. We do market, best-in-class market research. We want our messages to be in every home in America. So we're raising the support and building the relationships across the country for that. And, you know, I want to change media. And I think that's all of us in, you know, in part, putting our, you know, watching media that is ultimately and patronizing media that is ultimately sharing the good, the true, the beautiful. sharing the good, the true, the beautiful. It's investing in the pro-life movement so that we can make it to victory. You know, look, Planned Parenthood, as an example, they're spending $50 million this fall in TV and digital advertising. And, you know, the pro-life movement, we have some funding, but nothing close to that. You know, Live Action is

the biggest digital advertising group. And our whole annual budget is $15 million for advertising. digital advertising group. And our whole annual budget is 15 million for advertising. So we need to really up the ante right now and take advantage of the limitless opportunity that exists to save lives and to change this country and be as serious as our opposition to be more serious than our opposition, because we know what we're fighting for. It's something so beautiful and so good and so true. And that's human life. And that's the moral truths that help people flourish when we're willing to stand for them. Wow. Thank you, Lila, so much for joining us. We're so grateful for all the work you've done on behalf of this country, on behalf of life, and on behalf of those innocent children and their

mamas. Lila Rose, thanks for joining us. We appreciate your insight, your fight, your heart, and your energy. Thank you. Thank you for being with us on From the Kitchen Table. Thank you both so much. Bye, Lila. We'll have more of this conversation after this. This episode is brought to you by Mejuri.

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Well, so what I saw in Congress was that there's a pro-life march every year in January. It's cold. Freezing. Freezing. And massive amounts of people come for the march. It's like the biggest march of the year oftentimes.

And it's a lot of young people. I mean, Catholic schools and their kids get on buses and they come in and priests are with them and pastors. And it's a really wonderful time. I always would offer those who came from Wisconsin donuts and hot chocolate and coffee when they came in out of the cold. At your congressional office, yeah. But that was one day a year. at your congressional office yeah but that was one one day a year and i always to the pro-lifers i always make the comment that it's like you know once a month once a quarter you see the pro-abortion movement come into the hill with their shirts a whole bunch of women it was a non-stop

every single day lobby effort maybe because they had much more money to organize and pay people to get folks pay people to get folks to come to Washington. But the organization that the pro-abortion movement has is real to Lala's point. And I saw it on the Hill all the time. And again, I think there has to be some equalizing of the dollars spent on life versus abortion. Like that pro-lifers need to step up and donate more to places like Live Action and other organizations. To allow them to continue the good work and to fight back.

But again, you need warriors who know how to message and know how to communicate in a compassionate, effective way. And I think Lila is one of the best who does that. Yeah, she is fantastic. Sean, moving into the midterms and speaking about Capitol Hill, there's been a lot of questions about how, you know, our Roe versus Wade, we're so happy about it, obviously. I mean, I never thought, I really never knew it would happen in my lifetime. It's a miracle. I mean, you remember how happy we were the morning we heard about it. Happy to also be our daughter's wedding day. It was just like this incredible thing.

It was just amazing. And yet, moving into the midterms, some people are trying to scare us and go, this is going to hurt us in the midterms. What are your thoughts on this? And how do we message as conservatives? How should our members of Congress be messaging on this? It was kind of like we never thought the old Soviet Union would fall. And all of a sudden,

it fell, right? Right. It's a great analogy. All of a sudden, you've had Roe v. Wade with us for 50 years. And all of a sudden, boom, it's gone. And it was a big victory for the pro-life movement. So what I've seen is Democrats have been, I'm going to give them credit, they've been brilliant. They have nothing to run on. Their policies have been absolute disasters. I mean, whether it's the border, defunding the police. Inflation. Massive spending, which has brought us inflation. Their climate agenda, attacking oil and gas companies, trying to push people to do more green energy, driving the costs up for every single

American. It's really bad to run on that, Rachel. And basically, this wasn't by accident. These were their intentional policies that they implemented, and these were the results of the policies. So what they've done is said, listen, we're going to run on abortion. We can't run on the policies on the economy, on the border, and on crime. Let's run on abortion and run ads that say, if you're a Republican, you are someone who is an extremist, right? You're an extremist. And so my point with that is if you're a Republican, what I would do is I would run the clip of them calling me an extremist. And then I would call them an extremist because again, remember all the Democrats in the Senate, and I think all of them in the House

voted for a bill for late-term partial birth abortion. Yeah, they did. All of them are on the record. So these are the people who are extremists. They want to have partial birth abortion. You have to muddy the water at least a little bit on abortion to talk about their extreme position. And then I'd pivot into the border, pivot into crime, inflation, attacking my own guests. I would pivot into those extreme policies from Democrats. And if Republicans did that, Rachel, they would win. rights as citizens instead of letting, you know, such an important decision, which, by the way, was made out of thin air. This this constitutional right to abortion was never in our constitution.

So is it effective to message on the fact that no one's taking away the right to abortion? We're just sending it back to the states. Right. But if you're running for governor, that issue matters for someone voting for the governor. What policy do I want in the next governor? And so in Wisconsin, we're having this debate. We have a Republican candidate who's pro-life, I believe from conception. And you have probably a Republican legislature coming in. And then you have a Democrat who supports abortion to the latest degree. And so people are looking at the two candidates and going, do I want to be a pro-life state or do I want something different?

Okay. What do you think, Sean? And again, you and I, we're pretty clear on where we're at on this issue, but some voters aren't as clear. There's a middle ground that they want and no one's taking the middle ground, which, listen, I want to fight for a life of conception. But some voters say, listen, maybe it should be 15 weeks or 20 weeks. Maybe it should be the heartbeat bill at six weeks. Right. So that's one way that we can, and this is the work of the pro-life movement, is to change hearts and minds and move this political process in all the states. Now, I i mean the work has just begun um i want to ask you about lindsey graham because this has been very controversial and i've been very confused as

to why lindsey graham has decided at this moment in time just before midterm to put out that he wants to uh do a bill um basically banning abortion before like a federal bill like abortion what is that is that i think it's 20 weeks and at which 20 weeks 20 weeks and he makes the point that um majority of the european union bans abortion at 20 weeks or less the only one that has the democrat position is north korea and china where you can abort your baby up to the point of birth so he make it's a good distinction to make but i'm i'm troubled by that bill is not going to pass in this congress right i support the bill cons of course that you want to at least ban abortion before 20 weeks 20 weeks after 20 weeks after 20 weeks yes thank you i haven't had enough

coffee yet this morning um but the problem is he's introducing this bill right now, right before the midterms. Why would he do that? Listen, if he was Chris Smith, Chris Smith is a New Jersey congressman who, you might not know anything about Chris Smith, but if you're a pro-lifer, you know that Chris Smith, the one thing that he fights for his life, every single Congress, that's his issue. And he introduced his legislation, every single congress fighting for life which is beautiful lindsey graham is not chris smith so he hasn't introduced this bill every single year every single congress but he decided to do it this year right before this midterms when a hot topic and

what he's done is you know put put more pressure on more federal candidates as opposed to statewide candidates. And again, so again, I agree with the legislation. You agree with the idea of it. Actually, I'll go further. I don't believe in abortion, but politically it's idiotic that the bill would be introduced. He's not an idiot. So again, why is he doing it? I'm just trying to wrap my head around. Why is Lindsey Graham introducing a bill that will make it harder for Republican pro-life candidates in swing states to win? Because what this does is it gives the Democrats a huge talking point because we've been saying, this is great. Let's just bring it back to the overturned Roe v. Wade. Let's give it back

to the people, turn it back to the states. And the Democrats, when that happened, said, oh, you just wait. They're going to ban abortion in all of America. But Lindsay would say, well, but I want to say babies in California too. I want to say babies in New York too, and you and I do as well. But what's important- The timing is really weird. This bill will not pass, right? And again, you're taking the attention away from inflation, border crisis, crime, all the issues that should be on voters minds. Lindsey Graham said, no, hold on a second. I want you all to focus on abortion. And here's the deal. If you if voters are focused on abortion, Republicans will lose some, you know, Republican-leaning

female and male voters. And that's going to be a problem for the Republican Party in some states and in some districts, as opposed to if we say, listen, let's deal with abortion later, which may be like after November 8th. Yeah, after November 8th. And let's focus on these other issues for the November 8th elections. Lindsey Graham never fails to disappoint me. You said she's going to do a lot of stuff and doesn't do much. All right. On a much happier, well, it wasn't a happy note, right?

The queen just died and we just got through her funeral here. But boy, was it gorgeous. And we have. I think this is the really homeless. This is like the third podcast or fourth podcast that I've had to do about the royal family, about the queen. And I just want everyone to know what a good sport I am. You are a good husband. The kind of conversations that I have to have at my kitchen table that I don't really like like this one.

But I go in feet first. I'm like really like, like this one, but I go in, feed first, and I'm like, okay, let's talk about the queen. And you know what? Because I knew it was the third podcast, I brought in my favorite royal commentator. Her name is Kinsey Schofield, and she is the host of the Dive for Daily podcast, and we are so excited to have you, Kinsey,

because you're such a fresh voice on this royal topic. And so we've just gotten through this amazing week. I have to tell you, I sat and watched the funeral. I recorded it and watched it later with my mom in the day after the kids went to school. And we were just so amazed at the precision, at the dignity, at the, you know, pomp and the circumstance and just the choreography of this all. We thought, did they like practice for months? Like what is this? What went into this? It was just so much.

Well, I just can't imagine planning my own funeral down to the minute. And what was that? Seven hours? I mean, that was the that was how many times how many funerals did we have? I was I have prepared for this for a while, too. And I was looking at my watch going, wow, I've been here for six hours. I really did not anticipate for it to be that long. And you're absolutely right. It took years for them to choreograph this. And Queen Elizabeth had her hand in absolutely every single detail. The last time we saw a state funeral as big, but not as big, but as significant, I should say, was Churchill in 1965. I don't think any of us were born yet.

So this stopped us all in our tracks because it was so magnificent. I was telling my friends over in London, this was like the most magnificent tourism video I've ever seen for Europe because I never wanted to leave. It was the most beautiful thing I'd ever seen. And I think that it's something our country, I love our country, but I think it's something that our country lacks. We're so polarized politically and we don't have that one symbol anymore. I mean, it used to be the flag, which has been weaponized, but we don't have that one symbol that unifies us the way that Europe has the monarchy. Such a great point. Such a great point. So, Kinsey, as you heard on the intro, we've done three or four podcasts on the queen. And I have not loved it.

And on Meghan Markle. You know I love all the gossip. We've done all this. And you and Rachel check out on all things queen. But in all honesty, why should we care? Why should the average American care about the royals, the queen, the pomp and circumstance of this funeral? What does it mean? And why do we care about it?

For Americans. Yeah. Well, this is a hard one because I want to tell you, Sean, by the way, I loved your flannel on The Real World. I totally did when I saw this invitation. But I think that we were, I want to say to you that it's faith. The Queen was driven by faith. However, as we transition into this King Charles reign, it's hard to make that argument when Charles has had morally some really, I can't justify some of the things he's done. My podcast is on Diana.

You know, obviously he cheated on his wife. You know, he's had some cash for access issues where Saudi princes are handing him literally trash bags full of cash with his mother's face on them in exchange to spend time with him. It goes to his charity. So I want to sit down with you, Sean, and say the queen was a faithful woman. She was the head of the church. She prayed on her knees. She was friends with Billy Graham. We should care because her heart was one that was owned by God.

And her commitment to her country was a promise she made to God. And so I think that that's why we should care about the Queen's passing. I think that's why we should care about the Queen's passing. I think that's why we should care about her and her legacy. But that is where I really struggled transitioning into this King Charles reign, because I do think he's grown up and I do think he's a different man. But his history is so much more salacious than the Queen's. As you mentioned that, what I do think about her is anyone who serves, anyone who has the honor of serving, you know, whether it's a queen or a president or a member of Congress or a mayor, those who do it well, those who do it with honor, I think it's remarkable. And to look at how she served, having served in Congress myself, I look at how she served as queen and you go, you know what? Kudos to her because she did it really, really well.

For a long time. She gave her whole life to it, to her country and to the crown. And that is impressive. And again, she could be an example for others to go, you know what? Service is sacrifice. And you need to sacrifice for people if you're going to serve well. That is a lesson. But I think, Kinsey, you bring up such an interesting point about Charles. I wasn't even thinking so much of all of his affairs and even his financial entanglements that are pretty shady. But he appears to not... And frankly, I'll extend this to William and Kate as well. I have not seen anything close to the kind of embodiment of what it means to be a Christian as I have in the Queen in any of them. In fact, I've said this on television, so I'll say it right now on the podcast. To me, Charles's religion is climate, and we know it's a religion for a lot of people. And so I am concerned because the only thing that is of value to me is the fact that the monarch, the queen, and now the king

is the head of the Church of England. And the reason I think that's important, and you tell me your thoughts on this, is because Christianity is the basis of Western civilization. And we know that that's under attack. And so if the next in line is a globalist, you know, climate change, you know, fanatic like Charles, I am very concerned about what that means for the future of the values and the ideas of Western civilization. That's a really great point. And I don't know if you remember this, but years ago, Charles had made the comment that he wanted to be not the head of the Church of England, but he wanted to allow every religion

in. He just wanted to be the head of faith. And I know what he was trying to do. He's just, he's, I want everybody to like me. That's exactly what it was just. I want everybody to like me. However, that does jeopardize, um, that does jeopardize the monarchy because it's like you said, we need people that live by faith. We need people that have a good moral compass and that are working from the same playbook that has been around for, for, you know, centuries. Uh, and that is the Bible. That is what we want. We want somebody

that when they are in jeopardy, they turn to, they turn to the Bible and they find that scripture that leads them in the right direction. I just think that that is common sense. And with King Charles, he has got to pull back his politics. You know, there is a huge cost of living crisis in the UK right now. So do people really want to hear about the environment right now? No, they can't even afford to pay their gas and electric. So that's what their focus is. And I do wonder how he's going to go moving forward when it comes to faith, because he's so petrified about offending anybody in a specific direction. And that is one thing that weighs heavy on my heart as well. I think the Queen was unencumbered by that because she was from a generation where it was just accepted, all those things. And all those

beautiful traditions we saw in the ceremony, you could see how much Christianity just, I mean, it just was imbued with it. I mean, so it's, I wonder what happens to all the Christian symbolism that has centuries years old in that, you know, royal tradition. What happens to it when it just becomes this global ghibli gloke of like globalist climate change? Well, I think we're going to get a better idea during the coronation because the King Charles coronation is coming allegedly summer of next year, and it's going to be scaled back. And this coronation is a spiritual ceremony. It is a conversation. It is a conversation with God.

So what does that scaled back ceremony mean that he is talking about? I think we're definitely going to see a reflection of King Charles and his relationship with God next year. And it's going to tell us everything we need to know about that. We'll have more of this conversation after this. So I first came to Edward Jones with a great deal of trepidation. When I first met with my advisor, and I really was feeling vulnerable about what I would have to share, I was, of course, pleasantly surprised to find that there was absolutely no judgment

and a lot of support. And when it was time to get serious, he really took my hand and helped me to do that. Edward Jones. We do money differently. Visit edwardjones.ca slash different. So I think you guys might agree with me. I don't find King Charles to be the most likable fellow. He's sitting here throwing his pens in the signing ceremony.

He seems like a spoiled little brat at what, 72 or 73 years old. So my question for you is, you care about the the monarchy if you care about this succession and the success of of the monarchy would it have been appropriate for charles to go you know what i'm gonna do some introspection here people don't really like me i'm kind of a jerk maybe i'm'm going to abdicate and go, you know what? But people do like William and they do like Kate. I'm just going to let this go and I'll be the Duke of something. And I know I've waited for 60 years to have this job, but I'm not going to take it because I care so much about the crown. I'm going to give it to my son. I mean, and that's why you would be an amazing king, Sean, because that's the way you think.

He would be the George Washington. Who was never president, never king when he gave it up. I think that it has been 70 years that he's waited for the job. I honestly think that that's the only reason why. And you know what? Also, we need to remind ourselves that he was very close to his uncle, who was Edward, of Wallace and Edward, who abdicated and was chastised by his family for his relationship. He really, truly loved Edward, his uncle, who was the original Prince of Wales, who abdicated the throne to marry the divorcee, Wallace Simpson, from America. And he was chastised by his family for loving Edward

and for that relationship and spending time with him. And so I don't think he could go that route because Edward had been so villainized by his family members, by his mother, by his grandmother, who he was so close to. So to him, to abdicate is weakness because that is what his uncle did. His uncle was an embarrassment.

He humiliated the family. And in doing so, thrust his grandfather and his mother in the position they were in. Because I think that is another thing that's so admirable about Queen Elizabeth is she was, this was not a job she was born into. She was thrust into this position because his his her uncle was chasing tail right right and then her dad died of liver cancer and she was so young and she ended up the queen so so this is a great transition into the harry and megan margaret thing because you would think because of his relationship with his uncle and the fact that while everyone else sort of vilified his uncle who advocated the crown, he, on the other hand, really loved him and understood him. You know, there's some Camilla stuff in there as well, right?

He was chasing tail, too. Yeah, he was chasing tail as well. King Charles was. exactly as well now you have harry you know choosing his the love of his life megan markle over the royal family in in many ways yes and so and yet it seems like to me and here like i am not a big megan markle harry i find them very like to be insufferable frankly but i felt like they were treated a little bit crappy considering it was a funeral like really did they have to not invite them to the the working royals reception they didn't even let him wear the military uniform where it seems like he's the only one who actually

saw any action on the battlefield so what do you think do you think that because this had to have been okay all right this is the first time i've heard this because rachel has been so hard on action on the battlefield. So what do you think? Do you think that, because this had to have been all by Prince Charles, right? This is the first time I've heard this because Rachel has been so hard on them. I'm shook. I'm shook right now. I think she's wrong, by the way. I feel like at a funeral you bring the family together and I think all of these decisions were made by

King Charles. You do bring the family together. However, if bringing the family together means they're going to go back to LA and basically podcast about it. And make money off it. I'm like, hell no, you're not going to come back. You're not gonna be part of this. I don't know. What do you think? What do you think? I don't know if you've seen this, but Gayle King is already on television talking about what happened. I mean, this is why they're so protective of their space. Gayle King is already giving us the lowdown. And

it's like, you know, what is Gayle said? I haven't heard space. Gayle King is already giving us the lowdown. And it's like, you know. What has Gayle said? I haven't heard that one. Gayle is saying that there was no reconciliation, that it was just a temporary truce. And it's just infuriating because somebody told that to Gayle King, who repeated that on CBS this morning. And this is exactly why everybody is keeping their distance from Harry and Meghan. I thought that they were treated very well. And when it comes to the initials on Harry's uniform during the vigil.

Are those the Queen's initials? Yes, they are. But Rachel, I looked back at his wedding uniform and he didn't have her initials on his wedding uniform. So I don't know when they were removed. I mean, who has your uniform that they can remove the initials? I think that that is one of those leaks that the Sussex is approved for sympathy, which is, you know, victimhood has been very lucrative for those two. You know, and I do think that they were given a lot of I think that they were given a lot of love throughout the process. You know that Catherine did not want to do that walkabout with Meghan Markle after Meghan Markle sat down with Oprah Winfrey and

said, it was actually Kate that made me cry. No one cares. No one was talking about that story anymore. Meghan is just so stuck in the past. And I'm like, you guys got me fired up. I'm so Let's talk about Kate for a second, because I thought she looked I want to let that fire burn a little longer. I thought she looked like a queen. Oh, yes. Yes. And, you know, another thing, Rachel, that I think you'll approve of or appreciate is the fact that she went out of her way to pull something out of her closet that she'd already worn before because she did not want anybody to be discussing her wardrobe throughout the ceremony.

She wanted everybody to focus on the queen. She didn't want, get Kate's look, get Kate's funeral look. She didn't want those headlines. So she went out of her way to pull things from her closet that she'd worn previously. that she'd born previously. But she did. I think another thing that Catherine has that maybe the Queen actually lacked was this relationship with her children that we're getting to see so intimately, this kindness, this the cuddling, the love that we didn't necessarily see that from the Queen. And that's OK. That was the Queen's brand. But seeing it from Catherine and William, I think, is so important because it gives us a sense of Diana and it makes us remember Diana and we get to see Diana through her son's family.

Yeah, she's so normal and her family seems so much more normal. And I think that the royal family needed some normalcy plugged into it. Any thoughts on Camilla? Can I make a comment first? You bring up the two sons and I'm sorry. They're two ugly fellows. And they both got really good looking. That's what it means to be a king. You think they married up. Rachel's here. You can't see her. She's like, oh, no, stop. I'm sorry. Not everybody looks like you sean duffy

i've twice now today i've been commenting on the way men look and that's not what i do but the women both of their wives are beautiful they're beautiful they're beautiful women um and you know but for but for the crown i don't think they would have married well you know what they actually were here's the here's the thing that happened this money too i don't know they didn't age well. They actually were both really cute when they were young. They were, right? And then they didn't age well. And the wives are aging

beautifully. So I think it's just making them look not so good. Let's talk about somebody else who's aging. Camila. So let's have you talk a little bit about what we... Rachel is the segue queen. Let's talk about somebody else who's aging. Camilla. So let's, let's have you talk a little bit about what Rachel is the segue queen. Let's talk about somebody else that's aging bad. Camilla. I think that she, um, she has got to be

petrified right now because they are on this ride of everybody respecting the queen and everybody excited to see the King Charles reign. But you and I, we both know that the British media, who I, you know, I do enjoy British media and American media, too, I guess. We all do this. We build them up to tear them down. So they are having their moment right now where everyone is excited for King Charles and Queen Consort Camilla. But the reality is, is that The Crown season five is coming out in November and it is rehashing the Diana drama. It is rehashing the fact that, you know, Prince Charles was off with Camilla living their best lives when Diana was killed in a car accident. And they had to hold back and not marry because they didn't want to offend anybody. hold back and not marry because they didn't want to offend anybody. And really, truly, an entire new generation is being introduced to this drama that we grew up with just around us.

And it's not the crown is not kind to Camilla and Charles. And I last season, season four, they had to turn off their social media comments because so many people were attacking them over it. And so I... How important has the crown been in sort of keeping interests of the younger generations in the monarch? And how does... 100%. Does the royal family, has they ever commented on it? Do they like it? Well, I heard that the queen would watch it on a projector and she loved the first two seasons where she has played by Claire Foy. That's so interesting. Yeah. She's played by Claire Foy and Claire Foy did a really beautiful job with her.

Agreed. And it's when we get into the older queens that I'm like, she's not that, she was never this nasty and mean. Like who, who, who had an issue with her that they wrote her this way? But so I know that I've heard that the queen watched it on a projector. Prince Philip allegedly said, I don't watch that C-R-A-P. I don't know if you can say that on your podcast. So I will, I don't watch that. You know, he said that publicly, but I think he probably did.

Prince Harry has said that he does watch it and considers it fiction. So it's fine, but we don't know. We don't know about William and Catherine. However, I do know that they watched their lifetime movie and loved it so i've got to assume they've watched the crown what's the lifetime like there was a lifetime movie television for women yes very very um creatively scripted movie about them and they thought it was cute okay so now we're going to get into something else. I'm going to play a clip for you because I found this really interesting and I want, cause I know you're so in touch with so many people back in England and, and, and the British,

you know, sort of point of view on things as well as the American point of view. So there's this exchange that was so fascinating between Don Lemon and, um, a, another sort of Royal, is she a royal historian? She's a royal commentator. I wish I could tell you her name. I know exactly what you're talking about that. Yeah, I know exactly what you're talking about. She's a business consultant.

She lives in Washington, D.C., and she talks about the royals a lot. Yes, her name is Hillary Fordwich, right? Yeah. And let's just play this exchange. I like to, because I'll just give a little bit of, I'll of just play that thing and then we'll have you come on the other side. All right. Let's go. And then you have those who are asking for reparations for colonialism. And they're wondering, you know, one hundred billion dollars, twenty four billion dollars here and there, five hundred million there. Some people want to be paid back. back and members of the public are wondering,

why are we suffering when you are, you know, you have all of this vast wealth? Those are legitimate concerns. Well, I think you're right about reparations in terms of if people want it, though, what they need to do is you always need to go back to the beginning of a supply chain. Where was the beginning of the supply chain? That was in Africa. And when that crossed the entire world, when slavery was taking place, which was the first nation in the world that abolished slavery? The first nation in the world to abolish it, it was started by William Wilberforce, was the British. In Great Britain, they abolished slavery. 2,000 naval men died on the high seas trying to stop slavery. Why? Because

the African kings were rounding up their own people. They had them on cages waiting in the beaches. No one was running into Africa to get them. And I think you're totally right. If reparations need to be paid, we need to go right back to the beginning of that supply chain and say, who was rounding up their own people and having them handcuffing pages? Absolutely. That's where they should start. All right. Your thoughts? I thought that was so great. I feel like we missed the most important part where Don Lemon tucks his tail between his legs and is like, oh, okay, that's interesting. And then my reaction is, yeah, a lot of people are demanding things without opening a history book. You know, I don't know

her last name, but Sunny from The View. I mean, Queen Elizabeth had been dead for maybe 24 hours when Sunny started saying similar things on The View. I thought that was totally disrespectful. But open a history book. We don't have to be outraged about everything. Sometimes we can just be sad that a woman gave, you know, 90 years of her life to her country and she's no longer with us. 90 years of her life to her country, and she's no longer with us. And I just think that sometimes the liberal media look for a storm when there isn't one, because we know CNN is floundering in their ratings, and they're desperate for any sort of reason for somebody to turn them on. And that exchange was incredible. Open up a history book before you start demanding things and have a better understanding of of what you're talking about. Do you do you really think Queen Elizabeth had anything to do with any of any of that?

No, she like I said, she was thrust into this position because somebody else quit their job and she was she never had slaves. So why are we going after her? No one in my family did. I don't know anybody that did. So I don't think that it's a conversation that needs to continue. I think in a lot of ways, I shut this down. I think there was some concern a little bit on the side of the royal family. I think because of the visit that Kate and William made to the Caribbean. Am I right? Yes. Well, also, I mean, the problem, I would say, too, the Caribbean, that was an issue. But really, when Harry and Meghan... The protesters, right? Yes.

The protesters. The protesters. It just didn't look good when they were standing outside of the Jeep, which, honestly, they were just trying to recreate a moment that Queen Elizabeth had had there, a similar moment. It wasn't their idea. There were protesters, there were pictures of them on the other side of a gate with people clamoring to meet them. But that was, it was just poorly planned, poorly photographed. It was poorly documented. And I don't think that they'll make that mistake in the future. But really, I think the race, we would not have an issue with race whatsoever had Harry and Meghan not sat down with Oprah and opened up the mystery box of who's the royal racist. That truly is what this all boils down to. I feel like that maybe they thought when this biracial woman was coming into the family that that would actually sort of unite the Commonwealth.

And in fact, she's, as you said, actually created more tension and racial animosity that was never really there before. And it's such a dangerous time because I don't know if you remember this, but when she was when she sat down and had that did that interview with Oprah as a country, we were so stressed because we were going through the George Floyd riots where people were just randomly burning down T-Mobiles, you know, and and we were in the middle of a plague. But second of all, we were fearful to leave our homes because people were rioting in the streets and setting things on fire. And Meghan is sitting down talking to Oprah saying, yeah, they were talking about the color of his skin. So just stoking flames on a country that was already engulfed in racial tension. And I haven't heard anything about racism within the royal family before that. The queen mother had made some unfortunate comments about Prince Philip's heritage, but there were no indications that the royal family had any issues otherwise with race. And so I think that she's done them a total disservice. And they're very dangerous in going into that territory because now there's a question mark over everyone's head.

Charles Camilla. Didn't they say it was maybe Camilla? Is that the latest? Tom Bauer said that. Yeah, Tom Bauer said that. But previously it was reported to be King Charles. The cut interview that Meghan just did alludes to the fact that it's King Charles and she's got a variety magazine coming out soon that they postponed due to the funeral, but it's coming out like the Cut Magazine, which suggests it's Charles. And originally, it was suggested to be Anne, the Princess Royal.

So it's evolved. It was Anne, the Princess Royal, then Charles, then Camilla. And now it's back to Charles. The point is that it's such a huge charge to make against somebody. And then she leaves it. She lingers. Like, who could it be somebody and then she leaves it she lingers like who could it be and like it smears everybody yes you have a serious racial charge then damn it name the person and if you don't have a serious racial charge then shut your mouth and by the way

her babies are whiter than mine i know they are very, why are we talking? She accused the British press of calling her, her babies, the N word. I mean, it's just, it's all too much. So now before we, and then we're getting towards the end of this, I want to get to this because it's so important. It's claimed now that at, before she leaves London, she has requested a meeting with King Charles. Do you believe that's true? Why would she do it? Will he say yes? And is this about this racial charge about what color is the baby going to be? I believe that they're home now in Montecito. I flew back yesterday and whispers were that they were coming my way too. So I believe that they are already home in Montecito, coming my way too. So I believe that they are already home in Montecito, California.

I do believe if that were true, Charles would meet with them because it is my understanding that he is desperate to shut them up. So if she did request a meeting, it likely happened. I don't think that she actually requested the meeting. I think that, like I said, victimhood is very lucrative and she already has things in the works. There are nine podcast episodes that have yet to be released. She's got a Variety magazine cover coming this way. secure the guest host spot for when Jimmy takes vacation. So she wants to go on there as a guest, see how they want to see. NBC wants to see how she works. And she wants to host the show. Yes, to sit in for Jimmy Fallon when he takes vacation. And so it's my understanding that, you know, like I said, victimhood has been very lucrative for her. She wants to continue on this ride in America. They like the us versus them, which she's created. She's creating the Sussexes are Americans with we're going to envelop them.

We're going to promote them here versus the UK. She likes that animosity that she's created between the two countries. And it's been very lucrative financially for her millions of dollars with Netflix, millions of dollars with Spotify. She's provided and created very little content and she's cashed very big checks. So I don't honestly believe that she requested this meeting to settle scores or anything because I truly think that this has been so great for her brand wise. So you said you just got back from England? I did, yeah. I truly think that this has been so great for her brand wise. So you said you just got back from England? I did.

Yeah. She was there the whole time. So what was it like to be at the funeral as a royal correspondent? It had been pretty cool. You know, I thought I would cry throughout it. I thought I would be. I thought the ceremony was beautiful. I was smiling the majority of the time. I only cried during God save or I only cried during the anthem, which I don't know if you noticed, but I don't think Harry or Megan sang along with it.

And then I also cried on my way looking at the thousands of people in the streets. The streets were shut down so that people could line to say goodbye to the coffin. The thousands of people heading in the same direction to say goodbye to the queen, I sobbed when I saw that. Because to me, again, that's something we lack in our country. You know, we don't have that symbolism that we can all rally around and celebrate. I mean, and it used to be God here, too. And, you know, it feels like Christianity is disappearing by the second as well. I think what you brought up is so important because that is, it's what, in seeing what they have, this symbol, this queen that united them,

we're missing something here because we've lost something probably over the last 10, 15 years, something here because we've lost something probably over the last 10, 15 years, maybe less. And that is, you know, this, this central point,

Christianity, the flag, patriotism, we're losing it. And maybe this is a reminder to us that we need to fight to bring that back. Love that. Absolutely. Well,

Kinsey, I, I just think if anyone loves the Royals, if everyone loves, itals, if anyone loves… It's not Sean. You know what? I think you've won him over. He has been smiling this whole time.

I'll tell you that, Kinsey. And I think that you have won him over. And I just want to say… You had me at my final shirt on the real world, Kinsey. I want you to tell everyone where they can find you. Because if you love the Royals, if you love Princess Diana, if you love all the stuff that's coming out and want to follow it, boy, is Kinsey Schofield the person.

So just right now, just give yourself a big old plug. Tell all of our listeners where they can find you. Thank you so much. I have to die for D.I. as have course to die for di as in Diana to die for daily podcast and website to die for daily.com. And I am a huge fan of the Duffy family. I'd love to get on the Christmas card list. I feel like it's one of those Christmas cards. Oh, you're on 12 months on the refrigerator. And I want I want one on my refrigerator. Okay. You know what, if you give if you give your address to our producers, I'm going to send you

because I have an extra copy of our last year's card i'm going to send you last year's and put you on the list for this year i make a big deal out of my christmas card because you just struck another path in rachel's heart here she loves doing our christmas card i do i spend a lot of time on the christmas card for the whole year so thank you for that you're going to do that but let's again let's plug kinsey Because she's amazing Thank you Yeah Today4daily.com Is where you can find me

Kinsey Schofield On Instagram and Twitter I love it Everyone You must go to those She is my favorite Royal correspondent I love you Rachel

Honestly she knows all of it And we're going to have Videos To have you back Just so we can see The roses behind you I did this wall for you This is my Rachel wall

I usually have my I usually have my night time Or my day time backdrop And I was like Oh Rachel will like my flowers I'm going for the flowers So you know what I thought you did the flowers for the queen

But Wow I'm impressed They are typically My just royal commentator wall flowers I love that I love it Keep the royal flowers going

It works You look good in pink. All right. So, Kinsey, so great to have you at the kitchen table. You're amazing. Can't wait to have you back. Thank you. Talk to you soon. Okay. Bye-bye. Bye. Listen, everyone, thanks for joining us at the kitchen table. I want to thank both Lila and Kinsey. Lila, so smart, so insightful. Kinsey,

just so much fun. So much fun. So much fun. We got to have her back and at our kitchen table. And if you enjoyed the conversation as much as we did, and boy, did we, let us know. Subscribe, rate, and review this podcast at foxnewspodcast.com or wherever you download podcasts. Have a good one. Have a good one, everybody. Bye.

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