From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - The Truth About Natural Immunity & South Park Takes Aim At Royals

Episode Date: February 24, 2023

On this episode, Sean and Rachel are joined by their daughter, and staff writer at the Federalist, Evita Duffy-Alfonso as they discuss the study that was released, revealing that natural immunity matched vaccination immunity during the COVID-19 pandemic.   Evita shares her experience with vaccine mandates while she was a student at the University of Chicago, and why students were so willing to comply with the mandates. Later, they weigh in on South Park's recent episode "The Worldwide Privacy Tour" which took aim at Prince Harry and Meghan Markle.    Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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19 plus. Ontario only. If you have questions or concerns about your gambling or the gambling of someone close to you, please go to ConnexOntario.ca. Hey, everyone. Welcome to From the Kitchen Table. Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my partner for the podcast and in life and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. It's so great to be back at the kitchen table, Sean. And today we're joined by our daughter. She's a writer at The Federalist and she's our firstborn.

Her name is Evita and she's here to discuss this new study that has come out by Lancet about natural immunity being just as good, actually better than the vaccine. And also the latest on the royal drama as South Park takes some pretty delicious shots at Harry and Meghan and their reaction to it. And Evita has an article coming out, I think today in the Federalist about it. So let's start with the study Evita because I think that we didn't need a million dollar, God knows how many millions of dollars Lancet study to prove that natural immunity was better than the vaccine.

That's always been the case in science, right? Yeah, I mean, it's always been sort of common knowledge that you get it, you don't get it again. That was like, you know, that's what it's like with the flu when the flu season comes around or with the chickenpox. But they took this whole different direction where it was like, if you don't have the vaccine, you're like, you know, you have the plague. And at UChicago and at other schools around the country, the unvaccinated were extremely discriminated against.

Even if you had, you already had had COVID and had natural immunity. So they would say, you know, twice a week, you have to go get tested. You can't come to class. We'll turn your ID off. We'll turn your Wi-Fi off if you're not getting tested. If you're an athlete and you're unvaccinated, you're living in a separate dorm room. I mean, it was total discrimination. And now we know that it was completely unjustified. And it really just I mean, to me, it just, you know, speaks to how much money was involved in this. They wanted everyone to get the vaccine, even though they knew that even though either either they knew that it was it didn't work or they weren't sure. And they still put on this pressure campaign and horribly discriminated against the unvaccinated. Well, it's common human knowledge that if you get infected with

a disease, you get immunity from that disease. And COVID is a little bit different. But when you talk about discrimination, the discriminator in chief was Joe Biden, who said, in essence, this is a pandemic of the unvaccinated. When so many of us out there were like, listen, we had COVID. And frankly, we feel like we're kind of bulletproof. We feel like we have immunity. And everyone discounted that when our common sense said something completely different. And just as an American, it was incredibly frustrating to your point that people were being forced to get tested, wear masks. They would lose their jobs. They would get fired from the military.

All kinds of repercussions came if you didn't fall in line with the regime to be vaccinated, which always when that happens, always brings for me questions as to why are they doing that? What's so important with pushing us all to get vaccinated? I remember we were at an event, the COVID, I don't remember what exact period, but it's pretty early on in the COVID era. And Rand Paul was there. And he and I had a conversation where he had had COVID, I had had COVID. And we talked about natural immunity. And I mean, I'm here. I am having a conversation with the senator and a doctor. And it was like, of course. And he was a he was a pretty big advocate and speaking out when it was considered super taboo to talk about natural immunity. Here he is, by the way, questioning Anthony Fauci about natural immunity in a Senate hearing. Listen. Many Americans wonder why you steadfastly refused and worked with others to try to hide any kind of knowledge of natural immunity and how it would affect our decision making. So, for example,

you know, you have a 10-year-old kid and his mom comes up and all of a sudden he gets myocarditis from the vaccine and dies. Admittedly, a rare complication. But what are you going to tell her when she says, well, he had COVID three months ago. I mean, why would you force me to vaccinate my kid? Why would you force me to vaccinate my kid without even checking to see whether he's already immune? It's such a great point, Evita. And I'll tell you, lots of young men were at risk of myocarditis, not COVID. The rate of the number of people who are under the age of, you know, 25 who died of COVID was virtually none. You had to have had some sort of underlying, you know, health condition, maybe a cancer, maybe a diabetes. But for the most part, if you were healthy and you were young, nothing was going to happen to you. And you were actually more at risk of getting, you know,

some sort of heart issue through taking the vaccine than anything else. And again, the kind of punishment that young people went through that you described, it was you called it, I remember Evita, you calling it like a vax apartheid on campus. It was the vax apartheid. Yeah. And I mean, it was there was two things that happened with with with people who didn't want to get the vaccine. And they did.

I mean, one, there was this there was, you know, this giant there was this giant pressure campaign and people tried to tell you that if you didn't get the vaccine, you you were putting yourself and others at risk. And even if you didn't believe that, it was just the social pressure around you that you are selfish. You are, I mean, like all these like blame, like these words they put at you,

like you're selfish. You don't care about elderly people. You don't care about your neighbors or your friends. It was so much pressure. And so many people took the vaccine that didn't want it. I knew so many students. And the same with professionals, people in the military who just did it because they wanted to keep their jobs. They wanted to be allowed into the classroom. They didn't want people to call them mean and uncaring. And so they just did it anyways. And many of them now have vaccine injuries. I know

at least two men, one in college and one who's in the military who did it because they just felt like they had to, and now have mitochondriosis and are not doing what they love. So one, one took it because he wanted to play football. Now he can't play football. One took it because he wanted to keep his job in the military. Now he's out of the military, has a, has this vaccine injury. So, I mean, it's, it's, it's been disastrous for people and it's so wrong what they did, especially to young people who were not at risk. You know, what's frustrating to me is that we're three years into the pandemic, right? Everyone's already been vaxxed, it's going to be vaxxed. And here they come out with a study that says, oh, by the way, you have natural immunity if you

got COVID. And also, by the way, it's just as way, you have natural immunity if you got COVID. And also, by the way, it's just as good or maybe even better than if you got the COVID shot plus a booster. And the evidence would show that it's more durable, meaning your immunity, your natural immunity is longer lasting than what you would get from the shot and the booster. And this reminds me of the 51 signers on the Hunter Biden laptop that came out and said, this has classic signs of Russian disinformation. That story comes out to great effect. It helps Joe Biden. Donald Trump doesn't get elected. People didn't know about the story because it was censored. And two years later, they come out and go and go oh i think they got the story wrong they misquoted us

so once all the damage is done then they come out and say oh we got it wrong sorry about that or or actually when the new york times when the new york time or they were they said that well they said political oh you 51 said political say that that's what they're saying the new york times then comes out and says two years later oh no i no, I guess we can verify the Hunter Biden laptop. And which would then say that, well, maybe then Joe Biden is the big guy and was making money as the vice president. I'm sorry to make that connection, but this seems to be the theme of the left, that they they use these this misinformation to the American people to great effect. And then once we all realize they were lying to us, then they come out and and admit or partially admit or acknowledge. Now you see Randy Weinberg, Weinberg, Weingarten, Weingarten.

Thank you, honey. That's the she's the head of the teachers union who's now saying, I never said that we should lock down schools. I'm like, I want to I want to rip my hair out. I wanted to, like, burn my eyeballs. I'm like, are you kidding? You were the biggest advocate of shutting down schools. You said you want to protect teachers and any parents and kids who, you know, wanted to get back into the classroom. You vilified here before we get back to you, I want to show you Anthony Fauci now trying to wash his hands of his role in ignoring natural immunity. He should have known. Here he is.

He's actually, if you listen closely, he's trying to blame the CDC and other people. And he's saying, I didn't actually say that natural immunity didn't work. Listen. I'm actually stunned by the amount of misinformation. The only thing I have ever done, and this will take 20 seconds, if you look at the things I've said, they've been to support the recommendations of the CDC, of their advisory committees, and of the FDA. I've told people that it's important to get vaccinated, to get boosted, to wear a mask, and to be prudent. That's the only thing I've said. I haven't dictated anything that's only a monolith with me. It's always public health practices. And anybody

goes back over any record of me, they know that. I mean, it's stunning. It's like the George Orwell's 1984, where every time, you know, things change for the narrative and they want it would be better for people to think one thing rather than the other. They'll go back and change history and they'll just like like delete lines and books and, and, and change, change pictures and images. That's literally what we're living in. This is a ministry of truth where they can say whatever they want and anything that they don't, that it's inconvenient to them. They just say, oh, it's misinformation. It's disinformation. Um, and the truth is that they're all liars. Um, and what they, what they've done, I mean, there was actually, I think maybe this might, I think this is a little different than what you were mentioning, mom, but in the Atlantic, I think they

had a piece thing, have mercy on the people who shut down schools. You know, we didn't know. We were just trying to keep people safe. I say no mercy, no mercy for them. They lied to us and they knew that they were lying the whole time. This was all about money. This was all about big pharma. And now people are suffering. And it's not just the vaccine injuries that you can see. There are mental injuries for all the children who were kept inside without any contact. Developmentally, children are stunted. Emotionally, children were deprived for two years. The effects of the lockdowns that these people that these people pushed and the vaccine, which has been, you know, had a health impact on people has been stunning and they deserve no mercy. If you notice, Sean, when he made that statement, he also said he referenced the people who are on these boards, these advisory boards for the CDC. You mentioned people like Dr. Gottlieb, Scott Gottlieb, who was working for Pfizer at the same time he's on these advisory boards. There was so much lack of transparency behind the motives and the money, the money and the compromise relationships that so many people in public health have with the with with the with big pharma.

And we we weren't told about that. Some of us uncovered it. When we did, we were gaslighted. But all of this, I agree with Evita. This will happen again unless those people are held accountable. No mercy. Evita made a really important point. So she was talking about, you know, there was injuries that were seen, right,

whether it was myocarditis or other things, but also the unseen and the emotional injury and trauma. I think the greatest injury that this country suffered was its blow to its democracy, its blow to free speech. And I would have said as a product of the 80s that there would never be an American populace that would succumb to the pressure of its government, forcing it to take a vaccine that many questioned that it wouldn't work or that they would shut down a dialogue from really smart, world-renowned doctors who are pushing back or asking questions. I never thought that would happen. The greatest blow was to freedom that took place from this misinformation. But also

going just back to Dr. Fauci, it's interesting. He's like, well, basically, I said people should get vaccinated. They should get boosted. That's right. And you never said, but if you have had COVID, you have natural immunity and you might want to pause. Or if you have little kids or just young people, they're less susceptible to harms of being infected from COVID. We've said this a number of times. Everyone in our family got COVID. You had it the worst, but none of the kids really had any symptoms. Now, that's not every child I know, but kids were pretty resilient. Yeah. Our kids didn't have any symptoms. Valentina had no symptoms. Zero.

Why didn't Dr. Fauci say, but if you have kids, you should really sit and think about whether you should get a vaccine or not, because the consequence of if they get COVID may not be that great for them. Now, if you're older and you're sicker, that might be a different story for you. He was rigid. Everyone needs to get vaccinated. And the other thing here, too, is he tries to blame on the CDC, but he was the face of vaccination. Yes. And so everything that Dr. Fauci said. For decades, he has been the face of vaccination. So everything he said, Twitter and Facebook and Google were taking as gospel. He's like, I had no power. I was just telling people. He is science. Really good point.

He said that himself. I am. When you criticize me, you criticize science. Now he's trying to wash his hands. And I was like, I was just a guy out there kind of commenting about- Listening to the CDC, just like you. It's so bogus. Oh, it's so infuriating. And listen, I think that this is a dark chapter in American history.

And again, this is where this virus came from, our unwillingness to explore that because some people were so bought into China, and then how we gave up our freedom in the process. We'll look back on this if free men still exist 25 years from now or 100 years from now and think this is a shameful chapter in American history. Sean, before the vaccine came out, when the big debate, if you remember, and the constitutional suppression of people's rights and freedom to just breathe was all about the masks. You remember before the Vax came out in our own town, there was a rally about, you know, no, you know, don't wear, you know, people were saying, I don't want to wear a mask. I, you know, now we know the science on masks, you know, again, it didn't work.

There was a doctor in our town who just happened to go. who just happened to go that, by the way, the rally was held outside in the in the cold of Wisconsin, where I'm sure if there was a virus, it would freeze. And he was just in the back of this rally and someone took a picture of him. And he I mean, this someone took a picture, posted some, you know, troll on on Facebook, took a picture, posted it on Facebook. He was reprimanded by the Aspirus Hospital in our town. Liberal trolls went and smeared feces around his door. Did they do that? Oh, my gosh. Yes, they did. Yes, they did. They tortured the guy. But my point is, if you remember, Sean, that summer, I was on-

But did he stand strong, Rachel? You know, it was hard it was hard because a lot of doctors like him were seeing their careers in his case his legacy um you know uh being attacked and well not enough people they tried to do it was they they made an example out of him they wanted to make an example out of him both at the hospital and and and the liberals who wanted to use this virus as a means of social control. And I went on Varney that Sean will remember this. And I told Stuart Varney on Fox Business, I said, here's my concern, because I'm already starting to see this. I am worried that we're going to come out of this looking more like China than America. And Sean,

what do you think has happened? Well, to that point, we look a lot more like China. We'll And Sean, what do you think has happened? Well, to that point, we look a lot more like China. We'll have more of this conversation after this. What do Ontario dairy farmers bring to the table? A million little things, but most of all, the passion and care that goes into producing the local high quality milk we all love and enjoy every day. With 3,200 dairy farming families across Ontario sharing our love for milk, there's love in every glass. Dairy Farmers of Ontario, from our families to your table, everybody milk. Visit milk.org to learn more. There's this great Ben Franklin quote,

the classic, I think it's the best, you know best to explain what we're going through, what we went through during COVID. It says, Ben Franklin said, those who would give up essential liberty to purchase a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. Just quickly, I know we're probably going to try to move to something else, but the whole purpose of this, if we look at the rhetoric at the time, was the Great Reset. I mean, they said it to us. I mean, explicitly, they said, this is supposed to be, this is a test trial for so much better future social change that we can make. And now we're seeing that they've flipped from COVID. Now people are not as into COVID and they're pushing the environmental stuff on us. They've flipped from COVID. Now people are not as into COVID and they're pushing the environmental stuff on us. So those crazy stage environmental protests all across Europe, trying to ban gas stoves. I mean, it's a test trial.

It was a, let's see how far we can push the American people before we put in the real social change. And we didn't pass the test. We didn't, they took away our essential liberty and said, oh liberty and settled for temporary safety, and we went along with it. And now, if we could do it for something as little as COVID, which posed no risk to the majority of the population. It's like the flu for most people, yeah. Right. If we can give up that much liberty for COVID, I can't even imagine what they have in to, what they have in store for us. And the way that you're talking about, by the way, are the globalists,

the world economic forum, Sean, I have done shows on that. If you don't, if you're listening and you don't understand what's behind the world economic forum, you need to go and listen to our podcasts about the WEF that we did with rebel news.

That's a great way to understand it. We also had one, if you know, what's the name of that young girl girl in in europe oh eva but her name is like eva and her last name is like super confusing and long and i think she's about to get married and she's going to get a simple american name but she is married to will witt so i bet if you look up will witt you'll be able to be able to find his fiance she's on our podcast you go back. She's a gorgeous blonde philosopher and economist in Europe. And she explains what they're doing with at the WEF to do social control through farming. So you see it's on all these different fronts.

I'm glad you brought up the great reset. Justin Trudeau at the beginning of the pandemic is on tape saying this is our opportunity to, you know, fundamentally transform all of our systems of government and economics. And then, of course, we saw what he did with his his own truckers who tried to stand for health liberty. Yeah. You know, just just a point on COVID. They sold us that we need the vaccine because it wasn't about us and our freedom. It was that I needed to get vaccinated so I wouldn't pass COVID on to somebody else and hurt them. Well, in the end, we know that the vaccine didn't stop me from getting COVID or from me spreading COVID to you. And so the whole premise of that rumbled. But I want to make another point about parties.

And I love conservatives because there's probably some conservatives listening to this that are adamantly in disagreement with us. And I love a conversation about's probably some conservatives listening to this that are adamantly in disagreement with us. And I and I love a conversation about these things. But Donald Trump, who the left will say, well, he's like this, this, this, this leader that everyone follows and no one will push back. Donald Trump is one of the greatest promoters of the vaccine because it was developed under him and everyone getting vaccinated. And a vast majority of his followers were the ones that said, hell no, I'm not getting the vaccine. I don't want the vaccine. I don't trust the vaccine. So the dear leader wasn't followed by his dear subjects. However, on the left, all the dear liberals followed dear Fauci right off the cliff with COVID. And that analogy works for Congress. Again, it's kind of messy. People get legislation. They all think they have the best ideas and they want to debate and they want to they don't get in line.

And that can be a problem when you want to pass legislation where you need everyone to get in line, but they don't get in line. We're liberals. It's amazing the things that they've passed where they just got in line. Obamacare was a perfect example. People in districts were were rebelling against Obamacare. And these Democrats were like, nope, Nancy Pelosi and Barack Obama said we have to vote for it, so we will. And they lost their seats and Republicans won 63 seats that cycle. They didn't care. They all got in line. And I would rather live in a country where people think freely, are not afraid to push back against leadership and leaders and have a debate. That's a better country than the ones

where you have the gods, the elites tell you something and you just fall in line. That's why I'm proud of conservatives who are, again, still free thinking men and women. And hopefully that will continue and not die in this great debate. Evita just said America failed the test. And in a lot of ways, I think she's right. You know what's ironic about what you just said? And then what she just said is the Europeans actually incorporated the science of natural immunity into their policy better than we ever did. It was amazing that there were massive. Now, we weren't getting the media feed of how massive the rebellion in Europe was against the vaccine, against the W.E.F., against these, you know, the gaslighting on natural immunity.

But actually in Europe, they had policies that said if you had the I think initially they all fell in line and then they then you started to see rebellion. And you saw leaders in their party responding to what the people wanted. And then natural immunity was incorporated and you could use that instead of taking the vaccine. Also, the kids were allowed to go back to school. Our kids were on lockdown longer and more strictly than any other place. Even China was letting the kids go back to school. So, you know, a lot that was lost on that. Go ahead, Sean. Well, just another point here I want to bring up is that

now Joe Biden has said, if there's another pandemic, who's going to be responsible in the United States for responding to that pandemic? He's outsourced it to the WHO, the World Health Organization. People don't realize he's done it. Taking freedom away in sovereignty from the American people and said, no, no, no, it's not going to be the Fauci's. It's not going to be CDC and NIH. It's going to be a global body that'll be responsible to dictate how America responds to the next pandemic.

This is what they want. This is one world government stuff. And to Evita's point, too, this was the next pandemic. This is what they want. This is one world government stuff. And to Evita's point, too, this was the test ground. They got very limited pushback. And so they march on, continue to take away liberty and freedom from us and consolidate it in a world global body. And by the way, Donald Trump was defunding the WHO because they were so bad and so wrong. And Joe Biden comes in and goes, oh, no, we're going to outsource all of our policy to them. Yeah. He also took us out of the Paris Accord, which would have also tied us to all those globalist environmental policies. And then Joe Biden put us back in. So now let's move to another topic, because actually it's sort of

related. Freedom of speech is something that we as Americans cherish. There's still a lot of people, despite all the China vacation of America that we saw under covid's still a lot of people, despite all the Chinification of America that we saw under COVID, still a lot of people who understand on a very fundamental, almost, you know, I don't know, it's in our bones, right? As Americans, it's in our blood that we believe in freedom of speech.

And Meghan Markle, an American who married Prince Harry in England, they moved to America. But as he's been here, Evita, Prince Harry hasn't been a fan of freedom of speech. He's actually made some very public criticisms of freedom of speech. And now we're seeing, you know, this couple being tested on their limits to take freedom of speech as they're being just mercilessly mocked by uh south park in what is a very very funny episode that if you haven't seen you probably should evita yeah it was it's hilarious if you have hbo you can watch on hbo but they they basically have

this cartoon harry and mayan in in this Park episode, go on a worldwide privacy tour. So they have all these signs that say, we want privacy. And they're protesting all around the world. Stop looking at us. Yeah, stop looking at us. Ironically, though, drawing all this attention to themselves, which is exactly what the real Harry and Megan have done with his new book, Spare, which South Park renamed Wah. Like, he's a crybaby. I mean, the whole thing,

it was hilarious. And I think it's also interesting to think about other celebrities. I mean, they've gone after Tom Cruise and Jessica Parker and Xi Jinping. And nobody has had this deranged of a reaction than Harry and Meghan.

The two of them have been just distraught over this really funny episode, which I think says a lot about how fragile they are. And so then they floated around the idea that they were going to sue South Park, which is just ridiculous because comedy is legal in America. I don't know about Britain, but it's not. It's legal here. And then they've retracted that, but there's still reports saying thatgan is just super overwhelmed and upset by the whole thing and i think it's really indicative of just what what what uh how harry has behaved toward the first first amendment since he's gotten here one of the first jobs that he took was at the aspen institute um to fight misinformation with a

commission on information disorder whatever that means um And he's also called the First Amendment bonkers and tried to get Joe Rogan fired from Spotify for COVID-19 misinformation. So it's very unimportant for them. Yeah, I remember that. People forget about that, huh? That's true. They wanted to get Joe Rogan off of Spotify. They were unsuccessful in trying to rally people to... I mean, listen, a lot of liberals have been wanting to get rid of Joe Rogan for a long time, but these two barely got their podcasts. They just inked the deal for their own podcast, had only probably done one at that time and wanted to get Joe Rogan fired. And of course, successfully got Piers Morgan fired because her feelings were hurt when he said he didn't believe

all the things she was saying about the royal family. Well, let's go. Let's play a piece of this clip because the analogy goes that this is a royal Canadian couple and they're appearing on Good Morning Canada. Let's play from South Park. We just want to be normal people. This attention is so hard. Isn't it true, sir, that your questionable wife has her own TV show and hangs out with celebrities and does fashion magazines? What are you suggesting? Well, I just think some people might say that your Instagram loving wife actually doesn't want her privacy. How dare you, sir?

My Instagram loving wife has always wanted her privacy. There's so many great moments in this in this in this episode that I mean, you know, where they accuse Harry, they go, Harry, you're mad at journalists. They just hate tabloids. And their whole Netflix series was, you know, an indictment on the tabloids. And what they said was, so you hate journalists. Like, yep. But you wrote a whole book reporting on the royal family. Yep. So you're a journalist. He's like the same thing yeah i but i think what's what's interesting here is just the whole issue of comedy tucker carlson uh has just done a special about the death of comedy and um south park is

taking the liberty to mock anybody and everybody they're they're they're showing that they're not going to fall along political lines or woke lines versus non-woke lines by going after Meghan and Harry. And the reason that the left uses comedy to great effect is because comedy is really effective in taking people down. And there's so much rich material on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Mayor Pete, rich material on Joe Biden and Kamala Harris and Mayor Pete, Gavin Newsom, the wokesters, and the liberals won't touch it. And good comedy means you bring in a lot of viewers, and a lot of viewers means a lot of money. And these people in Hollywood who are the, in air quotes, comics, it's not about finances. It's not about bringing in more revenue,

having good shows that people want to watch. It's about driving a political message. They care more about the politics of the day, as opposed to the business side of getting viewers and telling funny stories or making funny shows. They don't care about that anymore. Evita, dad brings up a really interesting point, which is I bet Megan and Harry thought that they would be under that protective shield of you don't go, because you know, the leftists, they don't ever go after Obama

or Michelle Obama or, you know, Joe Biden. They rarely touch certain political figures. And yet South Park, which these guys are liberals, let's be honest, has taken on Harry and Meghan and it's brought new attention to them. I'm not a big South Park, which these guys are liberals, let's be honest, has taken on Harry and Meghan.

And it's it's brought new attention. And I'm not a big South Park fan at all. But I watched this episode. I thought it was really funny and really well done. And I think maybe there's a bipartisan moment here for America where left and right kind of don't like Harry and Meghan and find them to be whiny, privileged jerks. Is this what we're experiencing right now? To an extent, I think there's still a lot of liberals who are who are walking on eggshells a little bit with them. I mean, they have a lot of celebrity friends that sort of their whole whole brand and part of why

they're being semi protected. But yeah, I mean, Don Lemon has come out and criticized them. South Park's criticized them. There's been a pretty decent handful of left wing celebrities and commentators who have come after Harry and Meghan or at least disagreed with them. unity, I think it's just a sign of how dislikable these people are, just how terrible this couple is. So I really, yeah, I don't know if it's a moment of unity, but I do. So now they're saying, Evita, now they're saying, no, we weren't going to a sue because they saw the backlash, but clearly they were floating out there that they were thinking about suing South Park. Where does all that stand? Yes. I mean, they claim that they're not doing that. But I mean, it's so on point for the two of them. And I think they probably knew that they would look even more ridiculous if they tried to sue, which was what the reaction was from the media, like laughing at them even more once we

heard that they were trying to sue. And so they backed off that. But we know that they're upset by it. I mean, they're upset by everything. They try and cancel anybody that criticizes them remotely. And that's what I say. This is part of why they've co-opted this disinformation term all the time. They love it because they can say anything that they don't like is disinformation against us. Now, it used to be more political, right? The term disinformation, misinformation was just whatever isn't working for the left. But now they've said, okay, it's actually whatever's not working for the left and anything that's mean about Meghan Markle is disinformation, is what they've done. And they've made a whole career out of it.

Yeah, I think it's interesting, one that it's like, how dare you criticize us? How dare you mock us? We're going to sue you. And once the episode comes out, South Park can't roll it back. And I agree with mom. I'm not a big fan of South Park. I'm happy they did this episode, but they've done some pretty disgusting things in the past. But good for South Park for actually taking a leap and mocking and criticizing what so many people already think about Meghan and Harry. But again, you can't roll that back now. So there's really no remedy. And I think Megan and Harry said, you know what, we want to try to sue. And if we can do that, we're going to shut down anyone else who may

ever think about criticizing us again. And there's a lot of people who don't have as much power as an episode of South Park. I don't think of South Park as power brokers, but once the episode's out, I mean, it's out. But there's a lot of people who might voice their opinion. And if they get any traction on criticizing Meghan and Harry, they will absolutely crush them. I mean, you brought up Piers Morgan, wildly successful morning TV host in Great Britain. And I mean, he was the star of the show. And they basically took him out. They fired him. The radiance plummeted, but they didn't care.

They're like, no, no, Meghan and Harry are happy. And that'll show anyone else wants to come on and criticize him. It's a chilling effect. Don't you even think about it. If we can take down Piers Morgan, we can take down you as well. And again, you're right. It's a chilling effect. Yeah, absolutely.

So, you know, what do you think happens now? So they leave England because they think, you know, they want to have this, you know, this new life. They want to make money, rebrand themselves as sort of quasi, you know, half celebrity, half royals. their family back home um but if if but the whole premise of it is that they were they were beloved here that they were going to be part of this you know hollywood celebrity culture and now they're the object of a lot of ridicule and some people even said that michelle obama has taken a few swipes at her they asked her about megan markle Meghan Markle and the, I think she was on Good Morning America, I think, or one of those shows. And they asked her about the Netflix series. And Michelle Obama famously said, you know, there's a hot light when you're in a position like Meghan Markle's or mine, and you never expect you're going to have that hot light. But really, you need to think about that. This is really about turning the light on others

and really making the focus about service. And a lot of people went, whoa, that is a swipe at Meghan Markle. Because obviously, Meghan Markle's narcissism, the fake, really empty gesture she makes, like there was the Uvalvalde thing and she showed up with cameras and uvalde to lay flowers and then there's been a lot of questions as well about the archewald you know charity fund which has done virtually nothing i think all they do is like zoom into it's kind of like the clinton foundation it's a little bit like the foundation but almost weirder like they other people do stuff and then they zoom in and talk to them. I'm like confused by what they do.

And if you look at the financial records, it's just a lot of empty stuff. And so, again, going back to my original point, you have, you know, the close relationship with the with the Obama sort of now not looking so close. Celebrities maybe, you know, who are very fickle, wondering, hey, maybe they're not as hip and cool. You know, maybe we don't want to invite them to the next red carpet event. What's the future for Meghan and Harry, Evita? Because where do they go if it doesn't work out for them in America? Canada? Right. I think that they're really in an identity crisis right now. Right. I think that they're really in an identity crisis right now. So nobody has anything bad to say about the queen. And that's what Michelle Obama famously said. She said, I have nothing bad to say about this woman. She's amazing. She's amazing. She's given her life to her country, which people also took as a swipe at Meghan because this couple has done everything to bash the royal family and the institution that Queen Elizabeth has built for decades. And so can I just stop you for a minute?

That's such an important point you make. That people say that it's said that Meghan Markle miscalculated where the Obamas would fall in Meghan and Harry's feud with the royal family. That the Obamas actually had a good relationship with the queen, loved her and respected her service. And every, and I think Meghan and Harry thought, well, because the Obamas were black, they were going to side with them on this,

on the racism thing. And the Obamas really didn't. It was the real huge miscalculation. Obama loved the queen so much. He actually gave her a CD of his finest speech. Did he? I didn't know that. So so narcissistic himself. But they loved the queen and felt really honored to be there, which was surprising because Obama obviously, you know, has a lot of issues with the colonialism and so forth. Had the bust of Winston Churchill removed. But when it came to the Queen, they did not come out and defend Harry and Meghan. We'll have more

of this conversation after this. Oh, interrupting their playlist to talk about defying gravity, are we? That's right, Newton. With a Bronco in Bronco sport, gravity has met its match. Huh. Maybe that apple hit me a little harder than I thought. Yeah, you should get that checked out.

With standard 4x4 capability, Broncos keep going up and up. Now get up to $6,000 in rebates on eligible 2024 Bronco family models. Visit your Toronto area Ford store or Ford.ca. And I think that that's really what they've become known for is bashing the queen who's beloved by mega beloved by people in Britain and even people in America like like the Obamas. And so before they were this sort of young, hip, you know, cultural, culturally relevant, young royal couple. And now all they're really known for is bashing the queen and bashing their family. Like that's not a brand to stand on. We hate our family. Screw everyone.

That's really what the brand is right now. And I think people aren't latching onto it. People don't click with that. You have to be known for something other than just spite and hatred and for people to want to pay attention to you, to listen to you, to respect you. And they don't have any respect right now. And I think that people, even in the liberal class that they hope to be so welcomed into, have sort of had enough of it and aren't really interested. So yeah, I think the problem they have right now is an identity crisis. But they're also selling access to the secrets of the crown and the family.

And but once you expose that once or twice or 10 times, it there's nothing else there. You've done you've done your one trick and you have no other tricks in your bag to play. And so, again, I think they just they age out and not very well, which is why the royal family has kept them at arm's length because you can get no new information. No new information. You don't feed the beast and now all they can do is talk about stuff that happened that continues to age, right? Things that

happened four or five years ago about the wedding and they slighted me. So, Evita, do you think that... Go ahead. I was just going to say, I read a New York Times article, which is so interesting because the New York Times is left-wing, written by a left wing author. Hopefully that, you know, you think that she'd side with Meghan and Harry. And what she said about their Netflix documentary was it was just so tired.

Like we've heard all this before and now we just re-heard it for six hours straight. Like it was just people are getting sick of it. It's boring. Yeah. I love how you said that their brand is just bashing their family. I love how you said that their brand is just bashing their family. I think on left and right, especially in this really weird time period that we're living in right now, where we don't really have a lot of trust in government and institutions. And so many things are crumbling around us that we used to think were, you know, solid.

The one thing all of us have is our family. And I just I agree with you. I don't think it's a brand, you know, bashing your family is something that anyone can get behind. Yeah, absolutely. Can I make a point as well? Again, I'm stuck in another conversation about Harry and Meghan, which I don't, I feel like it's a tour podcast. I think you're starting to like these conversations. I don't actually like them, but here's for me, the, the, the silver lining is again, there's a glimmer of hope, um, in comedy in America when South Park will mock them. I like that. It's good. But also, um, I find this topic

rich in the sense that Harry and Megan have professionally played the victim. And just because, you know, you might have money and fame doesn't mean you can't be a victim in your life. You can be, and people can be mistreated and misjudged, and that can happen. But that's all they put out there. It is, they're victims all the time. And that really makes me angry because there are real victims. There are people who are less fortunate, people who are having a hard time gassing up their cars and buying food.

And as energy spikes for their home heating bills, they're having a hard time making their lives work. And for these rich, arrogant little to come out and pretend like they're the victims and take money, right? Take money from the American people who actually are going through some suffering, who really might have some complaints about being a victim, but they're making money off projecting themselves as victims. I'm so sick of these liberal elites playing the victim card. And if there could be one good thing that comes from the downfall of Meghan and Harry, should that ever come, it's that maybe playing the victim card isn't as powerful as it once was. And I wish that would stop. Listen, you've been

blessed. Promote your blessings. Talk about your blessings. Be of service, like Michelle Obama says. Be of service. Shine the light on other people. Stop making everything about you. Are you quoting Michelle Obama in a positive way? I know. What's going on? You really are Cindy Sheehan. She's anti-war. She's pro-Michelle Obama.

No, no, no. I know. Everyone on Fox says I'm the Cindy Sheehan of Fox News because I'm I'm pro. I want to promote peace and in Europe. I want to end the I want peace negotiations for Ukraine and Russia. She had this, but she was an anti-war activist. It's interesting. I want to bring up the Michelle Obama component because I think it's interesting. that michelle obama is looking at michelle at at uh at megan and and and noting what a little

spoiled brat she is and looking at her almost like a daughter and saying you know this is the lesson she needs to learn learn but also maybe somewhere michelle obama knows that she's totally savvy no i think michelle obama well it could be that she michelle obama is plotting her own yes um political future and is like listen i'm I'm not going to side with these losers. They're going, you know, I'm not going to do that. There could be that. But also Meghan Markle is someone she's a smart, savvy girl, but she's also very not self-aware. I think she thinks she's smarter, better, greater than she actually is.

And there has been rumors that she has political aspirations herself. So maybe there's a little bit of a competitive thing like like Meghan Markle wants to be the next Michelle Obama and Michelle Obama's going, girl, I'm going to leave you in my you know, you're going to be the smoke in my trail here because I am going to be the next politician. smoking my trail here because I am going to be the next politician. I am going to run in 2024 and save the Democrat Party from Kamala and Joe Biden and little Meghan Markle. You're like not you're not cutting it here. What do you think of it? Yeah, I mean, that definitely could be part of it. I think there's there's a difference between Meghan and Michelle, for sure. And I think that probably that's why what Michelle Obama is picking up on and what the rest of America is picking up on.

I mean, this woman does not have a thick skin. Any little thing against her, she's just like, you know, has a little panic attack, try to get someone fired or sue someone. I mean, she can't be a politician if she can't, you know, take a few hits. Take an episode of South Park. Yeah. By the way, Michelle Obama, take a few hits, take an episode of South Park. Yeah. By the way, Michelle Obama plays the victim a lot, too. Let's not let's not pretend like she doesn't. But she's expanding out.

So she's talking about I don't know, Sean, if you've noticed the latest thing. She's been talking a lot about menopause and the impact of menopause on her life. What do you think she's doing that for? I'll tell you my theory. on her life. What do you think she's doing that for? I'll tell you my theory. Well, she is relating with a lot of women who are in menopause. And by the way, that is a huge voting block of the Democrat Party, especially in a primary. And by the way, that does not bode well for Don Lemon, who is making comments about women who are in their 50s, who probably could be or about to be in menopause, doesn't play very well, Don. That was such a weird video. I can't

believe he even said that. You know what? I'm kind of with Tucker on Don Lemon, Evita. I think he's kind of zany and fun and says things that you don't expect. And I think I'm going to miss him because so many in CNN are in the box. I was shocked that Tucker was like, I'm going to actually miss him when he's gone. He's actually tongue in cheek a little bit. I miss Chris Cuomo. I found him more interesting than these, you know, feminazi robots at CNN. I worked at CNN for a year.

It was a hard year. And Chris Cuomo was my favorite one on CNN. Not because he wasn't a liberal who i disagreed with adamantly but he was respectful enough to me to let me actually answer a question and we would have a debate um and i had nothing but good things to say about chris como when as a as a contributor at cnn and how he treated me were a lot of people almost everybody did not treat me well he was the one that had enough respect to actually have a debate and a conversation with me, which doesn't happen over there. They try to destroy you. And Chris was kind enough and generous enough to actually engage in the debate and confident enough in his position that he could have a debate with me, which I appreciate him. And I'll always be grateful

for the way he treated me there. And by the way, he is interesting. He had interesting conversations. And Don was, Don, as he passed us out, Don was interesting. I'm not sure he's going there. The most interesting host at CNN died by the liberal sword. And maybe Megan and Harry will end up dying by the liberal sword as well. And maybe, Sean, you're right.

Maybe this, and I, well, you know, this is a wonderful way to wrap up this conversation, which is such a great point. You made that it's possible, possible that the downfall of Harry and Megan may end up being, or may end up being revealing that the whole, you know, that America is getting exhausted of the perpetual victimhood card.

You think, Evita, let's get your final thoughts on it. Yeah, I think everybody's getting exhausted by it. I think it's just like you said, it's a testament to how unlikable Harry and Meghan are and also how sick we are of all of the social justice victimhood. Yeah. Do you think she runs, Savita? Meghan Markle? No, I don't think she can. Honestly, stranger things have happened,

but I don't think she can come back from this. I think everybody on the left and right in America has agreed this woman is a crybaby. So you think South Park is the dagger in the heart of the whole Meghan and Harry? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. If you can't, I mean, really, you can come

back from from South Park and laugh it off. I think Snooki did that. Pretty shit. It was an awesome episode where they brutally made fun of her and people can once you can laugh at yourself, you can walk away from something with your head held high. They cannot laugh at themselves. And I think the American people are not interested in a candidate who, who is, is such a baby about everything. I don't, I think people laughed at herself with Chappelle. Remember that she did. She laughed it off.

You have to know yourself. And if you can't take an episode of South park, but I think you can run for politics. It is a, it is a brutal business. People are really mean to you. They say really mean things about you and you have to, you have to,

you have to take it. And it opens up the whole gamut for criticism and if she can't take this in south park she will never be able to take um a congressional or senate race not going to happen i would agree with you she's not you're setting your height so low or she's not going to run for senate she's going to run she's going to run for president okay president yeah okay well bring it on megan um it's a great point you're right you developed over 10 years it took and it didn't happen on mac i thought you had a thick skin because of the real world but it wasn't thick

enough was it oh no i was i was i was very sensitive to i mean looking back sensitive to a lot of things that were said about me i would get all flustered and angry and at the end i'm like i don't even care. At the end, you were like an armadillo. Haters are going to hate. Yeah. I was going to say that. I think that being a political child and having you run for office.

And when I was 10, 9, 10, 11, and then all the other kids, too, I think it was the best thing for us. Because we all grew up with a thick skin. their kids too. I think it was the best thing for us because we all grew up with a thick skin. People would bring pamphlets into school that were like making fun of my dad with his like, you know, as like a puppet and like all just like horrible brochures, people saying our parents aren't voting for your dad and like mean stuff. And we all just kind of figured it out and took it and grew up that way. And I found that it's been really, really helpful for me in my life to just not take things so seriously. So I think it's a good, it was a good thing. It was a good experience. It's definitely, I think, you know, you survived being canceled at your own school at a really

fragile age. Were you a sophomore or freshman, Evita? I was a sophomore. Yeah. A sophomore. And I remember it was hard, but dad and I have never been prouder of the way you, and I have never been prouder of the way you took it, the way you handled it. If you haven't, if you're listening and you don't know what we're talking about, just Google Evita Duffy. Whiteboard girl. Yeah, whiteboard girl. And you'll understand what the controversy was. But boy, Evita took a really painful campus-wide cancellation experience and turned it into a positive by starting the Chicago Thinker with her friend in response and also bringing professors and students out of the closet who, you know, those who there were some closeted conservatives out there, a few, a few. But yeah, it's interesting. You're probably right. The experience of being a political daughter and those 10 years that your dad served in Congress gave you the fortitude and the strength, the fight to go. I'm not going to let these, you know, socialist, fascist liberals who won't let me. Yeah, take me'm just i'm gonna be who i am and and you've been that person since and we're proud of you and i haven't i mean i'm not gonna say it was it was a

it was a horrible tough tough life i had growing up i think everybody has their own life experiences as they grow up and their own their own adversity growing up and i think to use the negatives in your life as a as a real positive and a learning lesson is a good thing and i think to bring to swing it back to harry and megan harry hasn't done that. He had a very privileged life. He had some struggles growing up, obviously, from all of his complaining. And he has not used it in a positive way at all. All he's done is complain and bash his family. And I think that's a sign of somebody who really doesn't have a lot of emotional development and really didn't have a very strong character. I think this says a lot about you if you take the struggles that you have and turn them into

something good. And he did not. Continue to make us proud of you. To not being a victim when you were the whiteboard girl, which by the way, I remember you came home and you're like, everybody knows who I am on campus and not for a good reason. I was like, really? They all know whiteboard girl? She's like, yes, they do know whiteboard girl. And then she wrote the op-ed, I am the whiteboard girl. Which by the way, launched your career in writing, which by the way- Right. Yeah. I met my future boss, read the article and offered me an internship at The Federalist where I still work now. So it was a real good thing.

Fox News contributor, Ben Domenech, who we didn't know that well either, but he saw your article and offered you an internship and it led you down this path. So we're proud of you. And we do love you. And thanks for not being a victim. And again, thanks for making me do another Harry and Megan topic. If you want more about me, Harry and Megan, Evita, when will your, this article on the latest on Harry, Megan come out in the Federalist? By the time anyone's listening to this, it will be posted. So check out the Federalist, the latest from Evita Duffy. You know, she does hard hitting stuff on in the crime ridden streets of Chicago, uncovering corruption at the FBI. And fun topics like Meghan and Harry.

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