From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - The War On Kids: Toymakers & Librarians Stealing Your Child's Innocence

Episode Date: December 9, 2022

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down to discuss the American Girl Doll Company releasing a book that promotes children to explore their gender identity, and why they believe toy companies are turning to 'woke' ideology.   Later, they discuss the refusal of public libraries across the United States to host author and actor Kirk Cameron on his book tour for his faith-based children's book As You Grow.   Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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So good to be back, Sean, at our kitchen kitchen table and we've got some hot topics today. I mean really really hot topics especially if you're a parent and you're concerned about what I think is a war on the innocence of children and this first story about the American doll really has me steaming. So can I just tell you how to lay it out? I'm just going to lay it out because last weekend I decided to take my girls to an American girl tea party because the American girl flagship stores in New York City. Sometimes they'll get up early at like three in the morning with me. They'll come in and hang out in my office or come watch the show while I do the show. And then afterwards, they'll we'll go do something in the city together this weekend we're gonna go to an american girl tea party

with my little margarita my marie v and my paloma um the oldest of which is uh she's now 13 14 14 sorry don't you just turn 14 i better make sure I got that right. And even she wanted to go because she remembers going when she was younger with her older sisters. So again, not cheap, Sean. No. You saw that bill. Not cheap. Everything in that store is expensive.

I take my girls there. And the reason I do it. That wasn't all you bought when you were there. I know. Well, we'll get there. Okay. The reason why I go, you know what? This is totally overpriced for the little cheap canopies that you get with your you know canopies that you get with your tea and your

lemonade and by the way you get to put a little you get to pick out a doll who sits with you at your tea party with your mommy it's fun but it's totally overpriced but you do it because you're going this is a company that cherishes the innocence of children right and you think american girl it would cherish america and it would cherish girls right exactly and so we go to the tea party on the way out i see the most adorable pjs they're so cute so cute totally again overpriced like everything in there the place is packed i, they are selling hand over fist, so much stuff. I almost didn't get it because the PJ said, marry everything. So they didn't say Merry Christmas. And so I was like, and I was upset about that because I'm like, let's not,

you know, denigrate what this holiday is about. But they were so cute. And I said, you know what? I'm going to do it it this is a great company i'm gonna support that they're still having wholesome good things for kids i go i spend because i got six girls right i end up having to buy five four pairs of pjs because the older two are out too old buy the pjs we're looking at sean like 200 bucks right i said did you pay for the do you pay for the tea twice i was like no i got pjs i got the pjs i come home and the next day the story breaks right so so so again i i i i see the bills from american girl i see the cost of american girl dolls but like i'm not a i'm not a you know connoisseur of american girl dolls but listen they are a thing and yeah they're they're beautiful dolls

and they have different themes yeah they have a like yeah they have like a theme of where they're from some of them are historical like they grew up in williamsburg so they learn a little history about america right yeah which is which is very cool and i'm gonna later i'm gonna tell you why this is happening, but I think let's lay the story out first. So here's what I find out after I buy the PJs. And by the way, after I take the tags off and wash the PJs, I can't return them now.

I find out that American Doll also has these little books. They're called A Smart Girl's Guide to Whatever. Okay? And the latest Smart Girl girl guide they're sold everywhere there you can get them yeah yeah so you can buy the books they're like they're everywhere and i'm at the store as well and i have a few of them as well um that were gifted to our girls and so this smart girl guide was authored by a young Wisconsin girl. And it talks about I have no idea why body parts. They want to talk about body parts. Mind you, I'm going to this company because I want my kids to learn about Williamsburg and, you know, American historical.

You know what happened in the 20s or at the revolutionary time. But here's what it says in the book. Parts of your body may make you feel uncomfortable and you may want to change the way you look. That's totally OK. Then it gets worse. If you don't have an adult you trust, there are organizations in the country that can help you turn to the resources on page 95 for more information. Again, separating child values from their parents, telling them it's OK to want to transition your body if you go to these trusted resources. And it goes on. You can appreciate your body for everything it allows you to experience. And you still want to change certain

things about it i mean why why the hell are they doing this why do they want to have sex talks with my kids so if you have a young daughter right and we've been pretty impressed that we've been able to keep our girls young for a long time try to keep them playing with us exactly our 14 year old wanted to go to the american girl Tea Party that you had with the younger girls. But it's interesting that if you're playing with dolls as a little girl, you're innocent. You haven't been sexualized. You haven't been exposed to these corrupting themes that culture pushes on you.

If you're a 10 or 12-year-old girl that's playing with dolls, you're pretty innocent, but the left can't allow you to have innocent children. They have to penetrate into every corner where your child resides, even in their innocence and try to pull them in to something that's disgusting. Again, about when we're talking about body parts and sex and sex changes with little, little girls who are playing with a doll? Listen, this is so shocking to me. But here's the deal. This is acceptable in culture.

They're celebrating that this is the themes that we push on our kids. There was a time, still in the 80s when we were growing up, that we thought wholesomeness was good. Chastity was good. Chastity was good. Abstinence was good. And allowing little girls to be as innocent as they can for as long as they can was a good thing. Was a really good thing. So this company, Sean, was founded in the great state of Wisconsin. Very great state of Wisconsin.

It was founded back in 1986. American Girl was founded back then. It was by a retired teacher. Her name was Ple back in 1986. American Girl was founded back then. It was by a retired teacher. Her name was Pleasant Rowland. And it was first just a catalog company. And she thought, oh, I'm going to make these dolls, as I said, that were tied to a historical time period so girls can get excited about playing the dolls, but also learn about American history, which that's definitely not wanted nowadays and then back in i believe in 1998 yes the company was purchased by mattel and so once uh which by the way also owns barbie and fisher price so once it got sold to mattel it it started you they started to see a change in some of the storylines i'm

going to tell you, I was ignorant. And preparing for this podcast, I did not know that there were other incidents that, you know, were alluding to this. So they introduced a storyline of an Australian little girl who lived down under whose aunts were lesbian. So they sort of introduced started to introduce those ideas through that. I didn't know about that. There was some sort of, you know, protests on the part of some conservative moms on that. But again, what happens is maybe those moms complain about it and everybody goes, oh, you're just being fuddy-duddy. And then we get all the way to American doll injecting these ideas of, you know, questioning your gender and now giving your child resources of where they can go to explore the idea of changing their gender without their parents because their parents are fuddy daddies too. So this has just gotten out of hand, Sean. And I go, what else is left for us? What else is left? Yeah, not much.

But so as a business model, and tell me if I'm wrong, I would think that the length at which I can keep girls wholesome, innocent, the longer they'll play with dolls, the longer they play with dolls, the larger- The more I can sell dolls. The more I can sell dolls, American Girl dolls or Barbie dolls, I can sell more toys the more innocent that a child is. If everyone stops buying the Mattel toys or dolls or American Girl at eight years old, that's one thing. But if I could extend it to the 13 or 14 years old, I'm almost doubling my market share, right? It doesn't make sense

that you would try to take the innocence away of these kids, which means they're going to stop playing with us. Except there's a corp now, but now it's not the little retired teacher in Wisconsin. Now it's Mattel, a corporation who's facing all this other pressure. So this feeds into something else that you've talked about on our podcast, which is, all this other pressure. So this feeds into something else that you've talked about on our podcast, which is if you look at large oil producers, Exxon, why is Exxon basically agreeing to go to this carbon neutral platform? Why are they sustainable? Why are they doing green things? Why are they virtue signaling? They drill in the ground and they take out black substances called oil and they make a ton of money off it.

It makes our lives better. Yes. Why are they doing that? Because they get people on their boards that are woke. And you go, well, why would any wokester want to be? I know this is relevant to you. No, no, no. Listen, I'm loving this.

Why do you want to be a board member on Exxon? Well, if, if you're, this goes back, we've talked a lot about BlackRock, these money managers that take our money, we had a podcast, I think it was last week or two weeks ago about what money managers do. They take our money and then invest that money on our behalf. Well, they also then will vote our shares for the corporation. Yes. And they can't look at every issue that comes up

before the board at the annual meeting. And so what they do is they outsource recommendations on how they should vote on these resolutions that come up at the board to an outside company. They're called proxy advisory firms. There's only two of them. These two proxy advisory firms are incredibly woke. I know I'm taking you guys on a kind of a trip here, but advisory firms advise the black rocks of the world how to vote the shares of companies that they own on your behalf with your money. That you invest in your 401k or whatever. Right. And these massive trillion dollar companies that own all of corporate America are voting for woke resolutions or they're voting for woke board members. And therefore, these companies

are forced to do things that are absolutely contrary to the mission of the corporation and the bottom line of the corporation. So that's how you get a woke person on, say, like Shell's board, who is now telling Shell, we need a virtue signal on climate change, when in fact, they're all about getting, they really should be focused on how do we most efficiently get this stuff out of the ground and produce stuff so that people can have cheaper gas and cheaper products. And so Mattel is no different. Yes.

Mattel has the same kind of push that comes from these proxy advisory firms, the Black Rocks, the big money managers that then change the mission of a Mattel because Mattel, again, is about keeping kids, I would argue, younger. But not even the kids. I mean, as a parent, I'm the one making the decision. I just dropped close to 400 bucks. No, over 400 bucks. Shut up, John.

Okay, I dropped 400 bucks that I didn't want to spend, but I did it because I thought this is something that is preserving. It's something fun. My kids like that. It's an experience. We do it together. We're going to the tea party. We bought their Christmas PJs.

They got to go look at all the dolls in the store. And, you know, maybe Santa might bring them something if they like it. And they might be able to put it on their list and see if they like it. And why would they want to piss me off as the parent? I know the average mom who takes her kid to American doll does not want this woman, Mel, whatever her name, who wrote this book.

She's this young, wokey woman giving these bad ideas to their girls. She's not a role model that any of us would pick for our daughters. And she's being chosen by this company to write these books about transgenderism, about sexual topics that we don't want. Why would that? Why would that be? So because we're old school. We think a corporation should try to serve its customers.

Yes. And they should try to make money for their investors. That's what Milton Friedman said a company should do back in the day, also from the University of Chicago before they were woke. Now they're changing that and going, listen, we're going to get companies to go off mission. There's a social purpose beyond money that a company should push. And yes, you might make less money, Mattel. Your investors in Mattel might make less money. However, if we can get you to get on board and push this, whether it's a green agenda or a transgender agenda or a gay agenda or what they're pushing an agenda that's not good business because no listen if you or i own that business we would never do anyone

listen to this podcast you would never make this business decision but you don't have sound business people making the decision you have the wokesters that are penetrated which by the way it goes to your point as well rachel the left ge George Soros has been so effective in seeing the cracks in free enterprise, in education, in the way criminal justice works, and extraordinary in a way for his benefit. And he's done the same here in corporate America. And frankly, it's scary. It's shameful. But if you're George Soros, it's absolutely brilliant. Yeah, the idea of these people

that are pushing the human rights campaign, which is essentially an LGBTQ organization that is pushing a lot of this stuff. By the way, Sean, in just one quarter, they make $40.6 million. So then the question then becomes, and by the way, they reintroduced some of the original dolls and their sales skyrocketed like 44%.

Sean, you could not move in the store. It was so crowded. There were so many people. There weren't enough people working there. There were so many people buying so many things. The tea party was not like empty. It was packed and they were moving people in and out i mean it was unbelievable the money printing machine they're printing money and so i look at this and i go okay

i can't return my pjs am i gonna go buy anything in american girl again no i'm i'm never gonna buy from there again i'm never gonna trust them with my dollars and i guess it just comes down to that where we just have to it's hard because they also own Barbie. Mattel does. And Barbie just put out a transgender Barbie and our girls, they love Barbies more than they love American girl dolls. So it just feels really overwhelming. We'll have more of this conversation after this.

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Yeah, you're right. It's really hard to find. It's very hard. It was like a lot of, you know, there were puzzles and there were some blocks. Lincoln logs or something. Lincoln logs. You're right about that. Yeah. So, I mean're right about that. Yeah.

So, I mean, I think that's one. And then also, like, I think, and I don't know if you guys have done this theme before, but, you know, what are the wholesome gifts that are fun, wholesome gifts that you get for your kids at Christmas and not give your dollar to a woke company? You guys should do that.

That would be a great topic. Because we can't get things that are made in America because you're Chris. Yeah. We did actually have a segment. I think it was last spring where we brought in young moms who started their own company.

I love this. And one of them was a young girl who started a makeup company that was based on biblical ideas and it sort of had a Bible-based theme and the products are great. Her name is Hope. And then the other was my on, on biblical, um, uh, ideas and it had sort of had a Bible based theme and the products are great. Um, her name is hope. And then the other was, um, my friend, Annalie, um, right. I can never say her. I remember her when she, before she was married, right. Um, but Shroff Noggle, um, and her and her friend got tired of finding clothes that you know the the companies were anti their value

so they started a beautiful clothing company i'm gonna i'm gonna have to post you can go to my instagram and you can see my daughter margarita in a beautiful dress um she wears it all the time and it wears like iron if you have more than one kid in china by the way it made in india made in india um but high quality and um just beautiful it's called um lily i'm gonna have to look it up i'm gonna look it up before the next segment but this is how you can do it this is and i think it's getting harder and harder for us like we talk about this we may we may we we seed certain ground like i've talked about amazon before right there it? You seed ground to Amazon. Amazon makes me so sad.

I can't wean myself from it. But I do think there's certain... But we try to make choices with our dollars that I think are relevant. And again, American Girl is on the list. Mattel is on the list. Now, if you walk through Walmart, I'm a Walmart shopper, and you look at the toy shelves,

it's probably 60% is Mattel made products so um we get limited but I think but I think supporting those companies that are doing the right thing with the right values um is is how we grow a parallel economy a parallel universe this one is gone but you have to look and go okay well how do we how do we create other things that support our values because most of culture everywhere we go it doesn't support our values but finding those niches that do support what what we believe in which is by the way i think a majority of the country which is why you say the old the old you know old school american girl doll is relaunched and it flies off the shelves because that's what people, that's who most of America is. Even I think woke moms don't want to push this stuff on their kids.

They want their kids to be little kids for a long time. For as long as possible. And that's so in line with the Christmas spirit. So I think doing this topic, letting people know what American Girl is doing behind your back to separate your child from your values, what they're doing to tell your kids that it's okay to, first of all, just putting ideas into your child's head that they don't care about. They are playing American dogs. They don't really want to, they want to be little. So injecting these ideas, telling your kids that it's okay to go to other adults, um, to do things to do things that they know that you would not approve

of as a parent. This is shameful. They should fire this young, wokey. By the way, she's from Wisconsin. Can I just tell you this? Her name is Mel Hammond, and she only graduated from college back in 2014. And here's what she says are her favorite things. Trees, rainbows, and dairy-free ice cream. And she's from Wisconsin. That is sinful. Sacrilegious. You are not from Wisconsin. I know.

I don't know who this is. Dairy-free ice cream. She probably doesn't like cheese curds. Yeah, probably. She's dairy-free. She's not Wisconsin. And she's definitely not sharing the values of the moms and dads who want their kids to play with American Dolls. So my advice, boycott American Doll.

Better yet, boycott. If you bought a doll, go back and return them and tell the manager why. I couldn't return my PJs. I'm sad about that. But at least I'm letting people know about it. And, you know, just try and during this Christmas season, remind your kids of what the season's about. It's about Christ. It's about God.

It's about family. And on that theme of Christmas. Right. Can we talk about this next topic? Yes. So good. You lay it out. Because, again, we don't mean to depress everyone before Christmas.

I know. Because it's such a time of light. I can take a little bit of darkness right now because our light is shining so bright right now for the Christmas season. But actually, Advent is darkness before the light. So you're okay. You're right now. Okay, I'll change my metaphor.

We're going really dark. We're deep in Advent. Kirk Cameron from... Growing Pains. Growing Pains. 1980s star. I was like, I had a huge crush on Kirk Cameron back in the day.

Really? I'm sure I had a poster of him in my room. I'm sure you did in some country that you're living with your dad overseas in the military. Yeah, no, I watched that show. I love that.

It was, it was fantastic. So, so he, right. He's a Christian, right. And he's one of these very faithful Christian,

a unique cat, if you will, who is from Hollywood, who kind of left the Hollywood lifestyle, got married, has a family. Has six kids, four of which are adopted, by the way. This man- This guy lives his faith. He really does. And is preaching it from the mountaintop. Writes a book with Brave Books.

Brave Books is a new company that's incredible. All of these wonderful pro-American, pro-Christian value books. We have a couple of them here. Oh, we have a lot of them here. Amazing. We love their books. You can't find these kind of books at Barnes and Noble or you can get them at Barnes and Noble sometimes and sometimes on Amazon, but this is like everything good. Anything that comes from there is good. Maybe what came from American doll 20 years ago was good. Oh no, listen, I read these books to my kids.

They love them. They're entertaining. They're smart. They're clever. They have good values. Our friend, our good friend, Julie Banderas wrote one and now Kirk Cameron wrote one on his theme of his book. Because every book has a theme.

Theme, right. And his book is on biblical values and virtues. So it's about patience and love and kindness. I mean, who can argue with that, right? What parent wouldn't want your kid to read a book that instills that? So he decided that, you know what, I want to do a story hour in some libraries across the country. And so he reached out to libraries and there were libraries that had done drag queen story hours in their library

and said, hey, I'd like to come in and do a story hour with my new book from Brave Books and do it with the kids. And 50 libraries said no to Kirk Cameron. You can't come in with Christian biblical values in your book, but they allowed the drag Queen Story Hour into their library as well. It's just an unbelievable story that says basically everything you need to know about the culture right now. Well, also about librarians.

Oh, yeah, they're the worst. As a library, I'm sorry, but a lot of librarians are really woke. Yeah, super. But our tax dollars go to help fund libraries. They're public libraries. And Christian values now aren't allowed in the public library, in the public square. This is outrageous. But again, it goes to show you the battle that we are in. To even carve out a space, can we remain to be people of faith and Christians?

Yeah, so it's not even like Kirk Cameron was going to... He wasn't boycotting the drag queen story hours. He just said, can I have a space for my Christian value book with the kids as well? And basically what our society is telling us all is, this is okay, Kirk Cameron and biblical values. You're not welcome. You're not inclusive.

Never mind that the book is beautiful i've read it um and it imparts amazing values that any parent would want their kid to have the drag queens come in and when they do these story hours and listen i've been to drag shows i actually enjoy a drag show every now and then you know when i was younger i did that i thought it was fun it is not in your 20s in my 20s it is not a kid-friendly thing but i've been on a drag show too yeah i lived i was in one well no i was in the real on the real world i did one you did one in the real world but then you and i went to you know what i learned from going to a drag show what was again i went my my roommate was a lesbian on the real world i don't think my roommates but she nice nice lady went to a drag show with her and i met more single available women at a drag show that was great

that would actually make sense anyway so yeah so we've been to them but they are sexual but in their nature and so when they go to these story hours they're actually teaching little girls how to strut um as if they were on a catwalk or worse yet on a strip stage accepting you know dollar bills they teach them to twerk um they and here's the other part this is the part that really makes me mad because it's all done supposedly in in inclusivity but what drag queens often do is they mock our gender in a lot of ways. So it can be entertaining to watch it. But if you really think hard about it, it's taken me decades to really kind of internalize this. My gender is not a costume. My gender and what my gender allows me

to do is something that is supernatural, really. I mean, I can, with you and God, create a child and make a family. It is something really, truly amazing. You can't do it, Sean. And that drag queen lady can't do it. Only I can actually have a baby and create a baby. Is this gender appropriation that's going on here? It is absolute gender appropriation. My gender on it is absolute gender appropriation my gender is not a costume and the way they do it if you look at like so many of the Instagrams are like like the

one there was that one transgender person who goes to the White House and she's like got my high heels and I'm dressed like what's the movie you love clueless what's the girl from Clueless not Clueless the one the one who becomes the

lawyer that you love you love that movie okay why can't I remember Cher no Cher is from Clueless Reese Witherspoon when she goes to become a lawyer and she's like just sort of this idea

of what a girl is like on steroids right like the pink nails and the pink outfits and little dog yeah it's fun to be a girl i'm not denying that it is really fun to be a girl but there is a level of mocking women that kind of comes with this and we have to be very careful of and. And, and also the idea that again, this fluid gender thing, you can dress as a woman, but you are not a woman. My DNA, every single cell in my body, um, says what I am. And it's important to me and who I am as a woman. And as a mother matters to you, as my husband and it matters to our kids. And I have unique things because I am a woman and a mother that I can offer our children that you can't. And you

have unique things because you're a man that you can offer our kids. And I think that there's just this confusion that's happening, and we need to be careful, and we need to make sure that we don't sexualize children or send them confusing messages. But going back to sexualizing children, the question would become why. So a human being becomes somewhat sexual when they start to go into puberty. Before that, I don't think you see a whole lot of, they're not sexual beings. God didn't make them as sexual beings as little kids. And then they go through this transformation and go into adulthood. But there is this effort on the left to say, no, no, no, we don't want them to wait to be

sexualized when God had this time frame. Little kids are sexual beings too. We want them to be sexual right now. And the question becomes, what is the purpose of that? Why would they want to sexualize? And again, take the innocence away of a child and put very confusing thoughts of sex into their minds, which they can't, they can't, they can't navigate that. I listen to this Balenciaga commercial, if I'm saying that right. Yeah. The designer Balenciaga who put the kids with the bondage teddy bears and little kids like laying on a couch with a glass of wine. Or it's not pedophilia, it's mind retracted persons syndrome.

Yeah. There is- Grooming, grooming. They're trying to de-stigmatize sex in children. And there's nothing that's more off bounds in society than sexualizing or sex with children. This is sick. This destroys a child. You impart these ideas into the mindset of a young boy or a young girl. And the consequence of that is a lifetime, I think, of pain, a lifetime of confusion. And they'll deal with this through counseling or bad behavior or promiscuous behavior or

struggling to have sound, healthy relationships for the rest of their lives. This is not a moment in time in which you go, we're going to sexualize them and they get to move on from it. I was a prosecutor. So adults, victims of rape, they deal with it for their whole lives. You never fully get that out of your system. It is a sentence for a lifetime when that happens to someone. And if you do it to a young child, that much worse. And so I,

but for the fact that they want to groom and some very powerful people may be interested in children and want to destigmatize it, any sound, healthy human being would say, never ever are we going to talk to kids about sex, but for with their parents. We're not going to talk about transitioning them. We're not going to talk about bondage with them. We're not going to present these ideas of bondage and sexualizing children to anybody. And if you do, by the way, you go to prison. If you share sexual photos, if you take sexual photos of children to prison, you go where you should go. Yes. But they don you should go. Yes. But they don't like that.

They want to take all barriers out of this. Right. Which just goes to show you these people are sick. They're demented. They're smart, but they are demented human beings. And anyone who participates in the, in the dement, I don't know if there's a word or not.

That's okay. Thank you. I'm not going to give them my money. Wait right there. We're going to have more of that conversation next. The faster money and data move, the further your business can go to a seamless digital future for Canadians. Let's go faster forward together. In life, interact. I think that we've all allowed this in the name of tolerance. We've allowed the line to keep getting, and now it's to a point where it has permeated the culture and we've allowed it to go and go and go.

And I think, as you said, for some people, they have a sexual deviant purpose in it. For other people, I think it's just about separating our children from the values of this society, because there are people who genuinely hate American sort of what they call, you know, middle-class Christian values. And they find those values to be a barrier or an obstacle to what they want to make this country into. And so they have to destabilize it. And by sexualizing a child early, you are separating the child from their from their parents early. It is a way to take ownership. That's why you see so many of these parents on libs of TikTok saying,

taking pride in having turned a child into an activist, whether it's climate or socialism or LGBTQ, whatever it is, they want to turn them into activists and turn them away from their family's values. And I think what we need to do as parents is just be really, really vigilant. This is not an easy time to parent. This is a time to resist.

This is a time to educate yourself and be 100% aware of what the cultural enemies of our country are trying to do with your children. And Sean, again again talk about the brief slope we used to talk about weird stuff happening on college campuses everything that you worried about back in the 90s in the late 80s that was happening on college campuses whether it was you know uh classes about pornography sex um you know sex weeks um you know i went to st mary's university we didn't have we didn't have that stuff all that stuff has been happening all through the 90s all through the early 2000s

now we're in 2020 everything you worried about happening on college campuses is now happening in your school and that is why it's happening in third grade it's happening that that ron desantis would be called a bigot for saying you can't talk to kindergartners about sex. Any kind of, gay, straight, transgender, nothing. You know, you said something that perked my interest about the left asked for tolerance all over the map. And you bring, we talk about the Kirk Cameron book.

They want tolerance to inject sex and transgenderism and drag shows into our kids at a publicly funded library. Be respectful, be tolerant of people who are different than you. But then you go, okay, well, I want to bring my book in here that's a Christian valued book. And I'm Kirkirk cameron by the way who's a uh for our genre a rock star yeah and they go no we're intolerant of your christian value the intolerance you saw you've talked about this from your days in the real world um on mtv liberal tolerance the myth of liberal tolerance it's just the one that when people ask me what did you learn on the real world the myth of liberal tolerance liberals even since the early 90s, when I was on

my on that show, like to talk and wax on about tolerance. But when it comes to conservative Christian views, they are intolerant. And they do want us out of the out of the square, Sean, they want us out of the public square. That is what they're doing. And what's scary now is going back to our original story, an American girl is how they have been so smart to infiltrate into corporate America. They take we keep fighting for elections, Sean. They're fighting for territory. So they've taken over education there. They've infiltrated corporate boards to inject this kind of stuff.

They're everywhere. You know, I think I was to say this in politics when I ran for Congress, in important races, a lot of people come out and they're rallied up and they're excited about a campaign, whether it's for a senator or Congress or mayor or president. And the point is always, if you think that the cavalry is coming behind you, if you don't stand up and fight that someone else, the cavalry is going to come and save you, you're 100% wrong. You are the cavalry. You are the people that have to stand up. We've had this great democracy, these great freedoms, and they are passed from one generation

to the next. And it's happened for over 200 years. Is this going to be the generation? Is it our generation that finally lets this great experiment die, that it fades off into the sunset and this old stale form of control and dictatorship comes back to the land of the free? Not come back, comes to the land of the free because it hasn't been here yet. I think that's worth fighting for. And it's fighting at all these different levels and being smart and well-informed. And I say this all the time too, if you want to save America, save your family, save your children, protect your kids. I'm amazed. I know so many, and we talked about this before, so many conservatives who have lost their children to the woke left. You have to be vigilant.

You have to be cautious. You have to inform them. And where you send your kids to school truly matters. And there's very famous people who are losing their kids. We see those stories because the left loves to report on a well-known conservative who's lost their kids to wokeism. Don't let it be your story. Don't let it be your family. Don't let it be your wokeism, don't let it be your story. Don't let it be your family. Don't let it be your grandkids. Don't let it be your kids. But it takes a lot of

work and a lot of effort and a lot of conversation to make sure you keep them. But if I do my job with my kids and I don't let them get my kids, I'm saving America. Because if we all do that, we're the masses. But if you, listen, they have professionalized indoctrinating, infiltrating, rewiring our kids. And if you don't want them to do it because your kids are worth it, what do we love more than our kids? They're worth the fight. They're worth the effort. And we have to do that. Your message is spot on. And it's not just for parents, it's for grandparents. There are many parents out there who would love to send their kids to a classical academy, take them out of the public school, but they can't afford it.

But maybe they have a grandparent or an aunt or an uncle or a great aunt who says, you know what? I'm going to partner with this family and help them afford a good Christian classical education where they won't be worried that their values are being undermined, that you don't have to deprogram your kids every day at dinnertime. These are things that each family and it's not just the nuclear family, it's the extended family. What's the legacy that you want to leave? A lot of people, a lot of older people, Sean, are giving their wealth to their alma mater that's woke as, sorry to say it, but, and it's just there to undo

everything that you care about. Stop giving to those people, start giving to schools that are doing the right way or start investing in your own grandkids and help them find a way. And as we look ahead at Advent, and I know you and I, I mean, I don't like to be negative. I mean, you and I are, we like to say we're optimistic. You don't have nine kids unless you're an optimist ultimately. And I am, but we have been pretty down on things. And I think this experience with American Girl this weekend, it just really hit me in the heart because I just dropped the money. Can't get my money back. I'll damn well boycott them for the rest of my life. I'll never trust them again.

And I want to make sure that all of our listeners, you know, we had a million downloads on our podcast. We crossed that threshold. So I'm going to make sure everybody who shares my values knows about that. And I'm going to try. I'm actually going to take your idea. I'm going to call my producer after this for Fox and Friends and say, we need to get a segment where we highlight companies, whether they're, you know, small mom and pop or big companies who are doing things,

creating products for children that actually is age appropriate and celebrates what's so beautiful about kids, which is the innocence of children. So I'm going to take that message. Thank you. And can I talk about the Advent? I mean, during Advent, I mean, I kind of feel like work. I can go to work and work my butt off and come home and be exhausted, right? I can still celebrate the Christmas season. I can still celebrate my family. I can still think about all the things that are wrong and all the things that need my effort and attention around my family and my work in society in which I live. But I can also then be in the moment of Advent in preparation for the Christmas season. I think we can do them both. And so I'm not too down on this

conversation. I think it's recognition. It's showing what's happening. But then also going, you know what? The real things that matter in life, right, are our family and our faith. And at this time of year, it seems like more than most times of the year, we get to celebrate those things in the preparation for the birth of our Christ and our family coming home and good food and a warm house and the blessing around health. And so- Because of Jesus, it's still a wonderful life. And I'll tell you this,

I've been listening to Christmas songs. Sean has such a great Christmas playlist that he plays all the time. I really do. Nonstop. I thought about this, a thrill of hope, the weary world rejoices.

Remember that Christmas carol? It does. We feel weary, but we have to always remember that there is that thrill of hope of Jesus's birth and that this isn't really our home. So we don't have to lose hope because this earth is not our home. Our home is somewhere we're passing through. It's frustrating as we pass through when George Soros is running the world and Bill Gates, I'm frustrated, but my, my home is not here. My hope is not in Bill Gates or pharma or whatever. My hope is in Jesus. And in the end he wins, right? We know the end of the story. We know the end of the story. He wins, they lose hope, the weary world rejoices. You know, I, I, uh, I love that. By the way, just on our Christmas list, Rachel made me download

and by the way, it's beautiful, but Harry Belafonte has a beautiful voice. It is the most amazing Christmas album. Every time I play it, I'm giving money to a left-wing commie, Harry Belafonte. That's okay. Because he's singing about Jesus and boy, he is just so beautiful.

It is not the best. It's one of the best. Elvis is at the top. Elvis is at the top Elvis is at the top and so is Bing Crosby which by the way guess what I did for you today you don't even know unless you checked your Amazon

I did not and saw that I bought something so we have a record player oh we do my daughter bought me a record player and I have it in the living room and I bought you the Bing Crosby Christmas album,

vinyl album. I just bought that for you today. So Rachel grew up watching White Christmas. I did not. By the way, when I grew up, we didn't have a TV in my house until I was like 17, which was pretty- But your parents loved Bing Crosby and White Christmas.

So I didn't start watching White Christmas until well into our marriage. I'm like, she wanted to play it every year. I'm like, this is the dumbest move. Anyway, I sat and watched it once. I love it.

And the music of white Christmas is fans. It's the best. Can I tell you something, Sean? Will and Pete have never seen white Christmas and they have never seen. It's a wonderful life. Like they know what it's a wonderful life is. They've seen it on TV, like through you gotta so here's the deal i actually was thinking

i'm going to send them a note um today i'm going to send them a joint text we have a little text chain and we talk during the week about stuff they told me that i am not sufficiently american because of you know just football right but I joined the fantasy league and you're doing quite well and I'm beating there. I think you just think you surpassed Brian Kilmeade. I know I'm beating well for sure. I didn't know I surpassed Brian Kilmeade. I don't follow it as closely as I should.

That's how that's how tight she is. But I am but I am I have I'm getting support. I'm getting tech support. I will I will reveal at the end of the league who's helping me. And it's not Sean. And it's not my son, JP. But I will tell you this.

I'm actually going to send a text. I joined the league before Christmas. They both have to watch It's a Wonderful Life and White Christmas. So I think what we should do is we should pick out a good Packer game. Let them pick a football game for you to watch three hours you'll watch a foot you'll sit down and go this is dumb but you'll watch the whole thing the fantasy football league isn't that enough you have to watch football you didn't even say listen that only took that only took like 10 minutes of your time you have to sit down and watch go i'll watch you pick a game for me i'll watch it okay this

weekend i'll watch a second so that's one movie that I'm watching another football game. You're making it so much more complicated. One football game, two great movies. That's it. That's the deal. Deal. Okay. Well, listen, this is a time of light, not a time of darkness, but we got to just put a little shade on culture and we're sorry for that, but

we're celebrating. We're happy. We're happy warriors. Yeah. I know you are too. And I just want to thank you for joining us at our kitchen table. We did this podcast without Valentina screaming at us during the podcast. That's a miracle. That's a Christmas miracle. That was a Christmas miracle. We appreciate it.

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