From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - This Wisconsin Mom Refuses to Be Silenced By School Boards

Episode Date: June 20, 2024

Since the pandemic, Scarlett Johnson noticed a stark difference in what her children were being taught – as lessons seemed to shift from focusing on common core to controversial social views. In response, Scarlett banded together with Wisconsin's Moms For Liberty chapter, ultimately becoming the organization's chair and taking to social media to share why she disagrees with decisions made at her children's school. Little did she know sharing her opinions on her personal accounts would lead to her fighting a defamation lawsuit.   Today, Scarlett joins Sean and Rachel to discuss why she's being sued for speaking her mind, what ideologies she believes are negatively impacting children in Wisconsin and across the country, and how parents can take action if they too believe their kids aren't being taught lessons that align with their values.   Follow Sean & Rachel on X: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Landman, new series now streaming exclusively on Paramount+. Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life, and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy. You know, Sean, I'm drinking coffee and it says, I love you. I love you. But right next to this cup is my old cup from the last podcast that I didn't take out and wash yet. But this one says, I love my husband. podcast that I didn't take out and watch yet. But this one says, I love my husband.

And when, when, when you and I get in a fight, sometimes you'll serve me coffee in this to just remind me, just a reminder, just a reminder. I love my husband. I love my, I do love you. And I love our next guest. Now I've never met her before, but I've been following her for a long time. And, um, she's from Wisconsin. She is, um, she was she was born in in i guess she was raised in milwaukee um and she's a mom of five and she's a fighter and you know sean so many times when we were young people would say you'd hear people always say you know parents need to get we're not young anymore we were young well the hell's going on here? Young isn't even part of the thing. Okay, good.

What I'm trying to say is we've heard forever, like, we need parents involved in school, right? That's the main problem. Like, the teachers and the teachers union would say, we need parents involved. And so all of a sudden, during and after COVID, a wave of parents got involved because they were like, I didn't know they were teaching my kids this. And all these parents got involved and they were called domestic terrorists by the FBI. And suddenly they tried to turn them into the bad guy. I remember the guy in Virginia whose daughter was sexually assaulted by a trans kid in the school and it was covered up. A boy saying he's a girl went to the girl's bathroom and assaulted this man's daughter

and he went to the school board and lost his business. As any tackle. Was tackled by the police, arrested, charged. Hauled out of there. Yeah. Unbelievable. So this is another example. And I've been following, I'm going to introduce her right now with no further ado, but I, but I, I just, I'm a big fan of hers because she's a fighter. She is a fighter. She's on the ground

doing everything that we want parents to do to protect our children. Um, Scarlett has, as I said, five kids, um, she's unstoppable and she is doing everything she can to make sure that the far left and their their very pernicious agenda against children co-opting our children um gets exposed and for that she's been sued so we thought we'd bring her in to talk about what she's doing what's happening specifically in wisconsin and about this lawsuit because this is a fear that a lot of people have of getting involved, is that they're going to have legal problems in addition to losing their jobs and all kinds of things that happen.

Scarlett, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. Hi, thanks for having me. From the great state of Wisconsin. I know, we love that. My heart yearns. Yes, Sean is getting Wisconsin fever because he's in just a few weeks. He'll be back in his hometown in northern Wisconsin with the rest of us. And he just is missing Wisconsin every day.

I am. I can't wait to get back. Especially this time of year. This is the best time of year in Wisconsin. Scarlett, it really is the only time of year to be in Wisconsin. It is. Okay. Yeah. I have to say. I appreciate be in Wisconsin. It is. Okay. Yeah.

I have to say. I appreciate it. Wisconsin, I'm concurring with that. I see the beauty in all 12 months, but the older I get, it's a little tougher in those winter months when it's 20 below. Yeah. As a native Arizonan, my love for Wisconsin is a little fickle. It's really very concentrated in... Not for Wisconsin, for Wisconsin's weather. For Wisconsin's weather. June, July, August.

It's hard to see the beauty of Wisconsin in February. It's a time of... It is cold. It's very cold. Tell us your story. So talk about your journey, your mom of five. She's the chairman of Moms for Liberty for Wisconsin. But you didn't start off as a chair of Moms for Liberty. Then you started to get involved in the school system.

Tell us the story. Walk us through kind of what happened, how you got involved, what you were seeing, and kind of where you are today. So I'm a mom of five, and I was always involved in my kids' education. I volunteered, I was a room mom, playground monitor, lunchroom mom, I did fundraising., I was always a part of their lives and their schools. And there was a time when I was welcomed into the schools. All parents were. Our volunteerism was celebrated. I was volunteer of the year several times.

And then COVID happened. COVID happened. And looking back, there were changes that I saw, but I didn't quite put it all together until 2020. And when I saw the reaction of basically all of our institutions, where our children were now seen as viruses, as vectors of disease. You know, in our country, our culture, you know, we put children first, and everything was sort of about the children. And then I saw suddenly, children were last, they were absolutely last, and adults prioritized their own comfort, and what they felt was their safety over the well-being the health and you know the mental um well-being of our children and so i was very upset a few weeks after the schools were closed when i saw that it seemed like the summer was going to come and

nothing was going to reopen so i started to push back you know slowly um making sure my daughters could play basketball that they could actually go to the playground and be outside and play with friends and then by the time july and august rolled around it became very clear that my school district was going to reopen and when they officially did not reopen, that's when I was activated along with hundreds of other parents in my community. And this movement just like spread like wildfire across the country. And moms, mama bears, and dads fought back and we fought for our kids and we fought to open schools. We fought to remove masks. Turns out we were right on everything. Absolutely everything. You feel very vindicated at this moment, Scarlett,

very vindicated at this moment. The lies are being revealed and everyone who was fighting back when you were fighting about masks, about school closings, about how this was going to be detrimental to mental health, to their academics. Boy, everyone has been vindicated who stood on that side. And it was not easy at that time. So this all started with first COVID, correct? Yes. And as you said, we were right about everything. And now that we see four years later, the ideological component of what is happening to our kids in school, the indoctrination. I know that we will be vindicated again. However, I want to prevent what happened during COVID. I want to prevent so many lives being ruined, so many children, you know, so many suicides,

so much mental, so many mental health issues, you know, so many kids that will never get that academic recovery that they so desperately needed. And we're trying to prevent the catastrophe that awaits us if we continue down this path with gender ideology and queer theory and the disuniting of our country with critical race theory. So we're fighting hard against these institutions that are just pushing back against parents. And it's just unreal what I see happening all over my state and all over the country. So as Rachel mentioned in your intro, you're involved in a lawsuit right now.

Tell us if you and I don't know how much you can talk about, but if you can tell us what what prompted the lawsuit and where it's at right now. And I discovered that our school district had hired and had for several years had a social justice coordinator who was skilled in equity promotion. That was the tagline. And I commented on that as a vocal opponent of critical race theory, as the lens through which K through 12 education is taught to our kids and the implications of critical race theory in classrooms, which teaches and I'm Hispanic and my husband's white, which teaches my kids that to be white is to be evil. And that whiteness, which which has implications, you know, about capitalism and free markets, individualism, rule of law, that that is something that should be dismantled and burned to the ground. And, you know, and that if you are brown or black, that you are inherently a victim and have no authority or autonomy in your life. You are just subject to the whims of whatever power that you can grasp from the white culture.

So I- So you're talking about the oppressor versus the oppressed. And so you commented on social media? Yes, I commented on social media, basically giving my opinion and thoughts based on my lived experience regarding, you know, social justice coordinators in school districts. And it was very benign, a very benign statement that was made on social media.

And, you know, a week later, I found out I was being served with a lawsuit. And I couldn't believe it for, you know, and it was just it just completely unreal to me. And it's been two years dealing with this trying to trying to have the legal system, basically clarify and vindicate, you know, my First Amendment protections. clarify and vindicate, you know, my First Amendment protections. And instead, you know, I faced, you know, a lot of obstacles and lawfare. And thankfully, now the Wisconsin Institute for Law and Liberty has, is now representing me in order so that I can avoid a jury trial, which is what I would face, I would face a jury trial based on my opinions and what the definition of woke is. Who sued you? I was sued by the person that formally held that position in which I was commenting. The social justice coordinator sued you because you don't like social justice coordinators? Basically, yeah. And, you know, sued me for defamation.

And truth is always the antidote to defamation. And I believe I was telling the truth. But also opinion, you know, that we are allowed to have our opinions. And you may not like what I have to say, you may not like my politics. However, if you love our country, if you love, you know, our republic, or, you know, republican democracy, then you need to stand up and support people like me and our, our speech rights, because once attacked, once those go away, we lose everything.

Our, our whole, our whole way of life, all of our institutions, everything that we enjoy, the freedoms and liberty we enjoy rest upon the ability to think freely and to speak freely and criticize our government and criticize our institutions. So can you recall exactly what the tweet said?

I sent, I shouldn't say repeat it. That's what I was told. Oh, okay. Got it. Because of the loss. I apologize. I didn't mean to put you in that position. Okay. So, so I think this is very fascinating. So one of the things that you posted on your social media, I follow you, Scarlett. I've been following you for a while on social media because it's one of the best handles, Twitter handles, for me to know what's going on in schools and specifically in Wisconsin schools, which really matters to Sean and I. And I have been amazed at the stuff that you've been exposing.

amazed at the stuff that you've been exposing. Why don't you lay out some of the things, aside from the information about the social justice hire in your school district, but what are some of the things that have come out that shocked you that you said, I got to put this on Twitter? There are so many things. And if you follow, this on Twitter? There are so many things. And if you follow, I know there's so many. Give us a few examples of the stuff you're uncovering. Well, recently, Wisconsin Department of Instruction works with a group called The Network. And The Network is a state agency and receives federal funds and I believe state funds. And they put on DEI seminars all year round. And again, this money is earmarked for kids with special needs. It's under the IDEA funding.

And instead, it is being used, I think, to indoctrinate teachers who will pay it forward to indoctrinate kids. indoctrinate teachers who will pay it forward to indoctrinate kids. And, for example, some of the most recent seminars that I sat through was black queer feminism and basically how K-12 education in Wisconsin would be far better served if all curriculum was taught through the lens of a black queer trans feminist. Yeah, I'm seeing this. I'm seeing this stuff. These were sent to me by our producer that you sent to her.

This is a seminar on black queer feminism. Can you imagine, Sean Scarlett, with the school scores that we see, how our kids are doing relative to other countries, how much our kids have lost in terms of academic skills and performance since COVID, that we're wasting state and federal education dollars on making sure that black queer feminism is taught in schools. I'm also seeing another one with the gender unicorn. Yes. You know, where they I mean, this is outrageous.

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Helping make sense of the world when it matters most. Stay in the know. CBC News. Tell me about the gender unicorn. Tell me about the gender unicorn. Well, that particular instructor said that she thought the gender unicorn should be in every classroom and thought it was very inclusive and welcoming. And she said that she identifies as some days a male, some days a female, some days in between. days a female, some days in between, and that that is her gender identity and that her gender expression is mostly masculine, sometimes feminine, but all around queer. And that should be celebrated. So this is a very confused person that is completely indoctrinated and captured by woke ideology. And woke is a cultural wrecking ball.

It is a combination of the worst of the critical theories, critical race theory, gender ideology, and queer theory combined to form an intersection that will wreak havoc upon education and upon our children's minds. And I think that a lot of parents just underestimate what is happening in classrooms. And that's my job. I was in Waterton this weekend. I was in, you know, in Manitowoc County all over just this weekend, talking to small groups of parents, kind of waking them up to what's happening. And it's crazy, the stuff that I hear in very small rural towns in Wisconsin. And that's why it has to be understood that this is stuff that can't simply be deprogrammed over dinner. It is deeply embedded into our curriculum. And it's complete and utter nonsense that is meant to destabilize

and break down our children and prepare them to be social justice warriors. And that was not the social contract of the citizenry and the school system, right? We've agreed to pay taxes, to hire teachers, to instruct our children for enlightenment, whether it was math, science, English, teach them how to read and write. I mean, it was the basics of education. And the left, insidious as they are, they've infiltrated the school system and have figured out that they can push an ideology, a philosophy, a political viewpoint. This is why all these young kids believe in global warming. a political viewpoint.

This is why all these young kids believe in global warming. You're seeing a movement to push against the Second Amendment rights that are enshrined in our Constitution. You have our electoral system and our electoral college versus majority vote wins throughout the country. They're pushing back against our Constitution and ideology that they believe in, which is left wing. Scarlett, where are you from? I was born in Milwaukee. I live in Mequon right now. I was also a Navy wife, so I've lived all

over the world and have met wonderful people everywhere. boy do you miss america when you're not here and i i hope i wish more people could understand how special our country is i also was born into complete poverty my mom was 14 when she was pregnant with me had me when she was 15 my dad was just 17 and instead of going to juvenile detention center, he joined the Marines and turned his life around. My dad is the guy that re-enlisted after 9-11 and did three combat tours. So I was raised by great parents that taught me how to fight and to love this country from day one. Ronald Reagan has been a hero of mine since I was a little kid and quote him all the time. And what Ronald Reagan had said is don't be afraid to see what you see.

That I don't want to be sitting on my front porch telling my grandchildren what it was like when America used to be free. And that's the road we're on if we don't stand. used to be free. And that's the road we're on if we don't stand. And they're after our children, Sean. You're exactly right, because they want to stop the future Trump voters before they're even formed. They've realized the only way to stop liberty-minded people is to go after their children. And they're not having children, as you all know. That's right. They want ours. They want ours. They're not having us. Amen. But Mequon is in what county?

Ozaukee County. Right. And I'm doing this for a purpose. So Skrull lives in Mequon, which is in Ozaukee County. For people not from Wisconsin, you might not understand the importance of this. But there are three powerhouse counties in the state of Wisconsin. They're called the WOW counties, abbreviated, but it's Waukesha, Ozaukee, and Washington County. These are the suburbs of Milwaukee. They're pretty darn

conservative. And that this ideology has infiltrated into the schools in Mequon, in Ozaukee County, in Wisconsin, and this lawsuit has taken place in this county? Madison, Wisconsin is radically liberal. It's like the People's Republic of Madison. This is not. This tells you how far this infiltration has gone. Yes. And also what's interesting is that it's happening in these con it isn't berkeley california it's in brooklyn it isn't madison it's in these counties

that are generally considered you know pretty solidly republican counties but what's interesting is they're not just teaching your kids and this is what why sean and i have been talking about this for a long time scarlett um the real work has been done in the teachers' colleges. And through these training courses that you were able to somehow infiltrate into, I don't know how you got this information, these online training courses, maybe Zoom is going to have to be more secure for the lefties now because some people are able to see some of these things through their Zoom classes. But what they're doing is they're taking young women and men who are going into education. They are indoctrinating them through the teachers colleges because these teachers colleges are completely taken over by communists, really, by cultural Marxists.

And then those teachers come up and just in case they aren't indoctrinated enough, they make sure they give them routine updates, make sure they're educated in all the new forms of intersectionality and all this kind of stuff that they're teaching. And this stuff is really shocking. And I'm sorry, it's especially shocking, as you said, Sean, there's a social contract. You take my, through my property taxes, you take my money and you educate my child. But that is not happening. What has been the reaction in these

counties, especially in Ozaukee, where you're from, to your work. Are the parents as outraged as you are? Yes, and I really like that you point out, because a lot of people don't know Wisconsin, the fact that in these wild counties, we are seeing so much of this woke nonsense. You think of like Kelly Piesek, the school board race that she won, where Jill Underly personally went to the Waukesha area to campaign against school board members. That is how their mask is off. Hell is empty. All the demons are here.

And we're fighting them everywhere. In very rural, I have gone to very rural counties that you guys would know. And they're trying to worry time in farm country. I'm blown away. And a lot of a lot of these ordinary people, the regular salty of people, you know, which I consider myself to be one of. They don't even know how to respond to this. And that's what we do at Moms for Liberty. We help them to organize and to respond because our kids don't have a teacher's union to represent

them. They have no one. They only have us. We have to be their heroes because there's no one else. If we can't defend our own kids, then what the heck are we doing?, yeah, so there's a lot of good response. There's always a, you know, a clown car or two that roll up in the areas. But the biggest issue is the institutional capture of the Wisconsin Department of Instruction. And all the teachers are so beholden to these institutions, despite them working against their best interest. And we try to tell teachers, you know, we want to be partners. And a lot of former teachers are on our side. A lot of teachers are retiring early. And I have a lot of family and friends that are in education that tell me all the time, you are 100% right't wait you're over the target keep going don't stop

and um i have no plan to stop you know um i i think what in what we did what is it that mad men beget more bad men and that madness and insanity can spread um just as quickly as goodness and virtue and we just see madness we crazy people. We see demented men going into women's bathrooms in Sun Prairie, exposing themselves to 14-year-old girls. In Green Bay, a male was able to go on the varsity volleyball team and give the girls bruises and welts, and many of them quit rather than play. There's countless stories, McGuanagoe, Elkhorn, where they're fighting boys in the girls' bathroom. In McGuanagoe and Elkhorn, these are very conservative areas. Scarlett, has it gotten worse because of Tony Evers? For those

who don't know, Tony Evers is the governor of Wisconsin. He is a former teachers union member and superintendent, which I imagine he's been able to wield a lot of power and resources towards these woke agendas. Is he in, have you been able to discover that he's directly responsible for the misuse of public dollars towards these woke projects? I think that we've had a Republican Assembly and Senate, which is why recently we had to redraw all of our district lines because what they have been unable to do in Wisconsin through elections, they are doing by rigging elections. And in the sense, they are redrawing district lines in such obviously political ways that a good chunk of our assembly members are up, you know, now they have to run against each other. It's been a mess,

but I think Wisconsin Republicans are handling it very well, and we're working really hard to maintain those majorities, because without them, we are going to turn into Illinois so fast. But it's Jill Underly. Jill Underly, who is the state superintendent, who she is so obviously political. Her speeches are so political, and it makes sense because one of the slides I just recently put up was in a DPI training, teaching is political, the big slide, you know, and we're told, hey, stop making this political when you moms for liberty, you're too political. I heard that for four years. And you know what, Politics is policy and policy affects people. If you're going to be political, you know, you're you are working. You have all sorts of avenues for funding.

We have so few and they try to cut every candidate off from any sort of help by groups like Moms for Liberty or the Republican Party or Turning Point. of help by groups like Moms for Liberty or the Republican Party or Turning Point. They want to cut them off and say, stop being political so that we go into the ring with our hands tied behind our back. And we just get we're just supposed to sit there and just get beat up. No more. We're not going to take it anymore. We're going to look evil in the eye and we're going to say, I see you. I see what you're doing.

You are hurting children. You are hurting families. Not on my watch. No more. I'm going to fight until hell freezes over. And when hell freezes over, I'll fight on the ice. I love that. And just to mention the politics of the redrawing of the maps.

Someone that Rachel knows, one of our old assemblymen, Pat Snyder, they redrew him out of his district by one block. So the politics of what they've done in Wisconsin truly is outrageous. Scarlett, here's what, I mean, I get frustrated because I feel like the left continues to make these

leaps and bounds and advancement and it's all, most of it's really bad for our kids, for society, for our economy, for our safety and security, for personal health. I love to hear stories of, are we making progress? Are you and parents, Moms for Liberty, making any progress fighting back, pushing back these radical leftists in our school system? I'm really glad you say that. Yes, there is lots to be hopeful about because so many people are waking up to this.

We have one. Actually, I had we all but in Ozaukee County, every candidate that we endorsed one. And so and we are a more conservative area. So it can become more difficult in areas that are purple or blue. For example, in Kenosha, they spent like, I think, almost $200,000 on board races. In Manitowoc, they put up seven billboards against one conservative candidate. But the good news is we have formed a coalition of the same, you know, I call it the fellowship of the same, like the fellowship of the ring. And we are journeying to Mordor to take down

the evil Soran right now, you know, this kind of woke, this woke zeitgeist that has taken a grip of our state and our country. And the good news is that we have so many parents, we have so many great homeschool organizations. We have so many people stepping up to run for school boards and working so hard. We have so many districts where there are sane, conservative board members, and the schools are going in the right direction. They're turning the corner. So, you know, we're doing, you know, you're doing the best that we can, but they, it took them generations to march through our institutions. It'll take more than three or four years to turn it around.

This is generational work. And Chris UFO, James Lindsay, the Heritage Foundation, they all make this very clear that we are building a city we may not see, but we're building it for our children and grandchildren. So I am working for something that I may not even see the fruits of it, but it's got to start now. And as Republicans and conservatives, we kind of operate on this ROI, and I get it. We want to see the rate of return right away. We want immediate results. We've got to be a little bit more like the left,

and I'll only say this once and that one way is that we've got to make, we've got to build, rebuild, build institutions, take them over, invest and invest and put our money just the way that they have put our money, our time and our effort, our treasure into building, rebuilding the city on the hill. And that's going to take time. You know, I can really, I mean, it's really obvious why they want to make an example out of you,

get you out of the way, scare other parents into, you know, it's really hard, by the way, if you're, if you are, if you have the energy and the vision and the drive that someone like Scarlett has, but you have a small business, this is a very scary proposition. You could lose your livelihood. You could be sued, as they're trying to do with you. So it's very clear to me why they're doing that. I think another area for hope, Scarlett, is obviously school choice. I mean, that people can just opt out of the system. Wisconsin has a very long, one of the longest

histories of school choice with the right governor in place. That could be, right now, I think it's mainly for disadvantaged people from disadvantaged socioeconomic backgrounds. That could be universalized. You could have full school choice and a lot more options. My question for you, especially because you're Hispanic, which by the way, I'm very proud of the fact that you are Hispanic, that you come from where you come from, that you're fighting the way you're fighting. Curious about the Milwaukee area. A lot of people don't realize that the Milwaukee area is almost 20% Hispanic, mainly Mexican American. I'm curious if, I mean, you know how conservative Hispanic families are. I don't care if they vote Democrat or not. They're inherently a conservative culture and family culture. Are they waking up

or are they trapped in these government schools and they're just so busy just trying to make ends meet that they're not aware of what's happening, what they're doing with their kids? Has your message from Moms for Liberty taken hold of that community? Well, yes, it has. With school choice, as you know, with the Ramirez family, they're on the Cardinal Stritch campus, the formal Cardinal Stritch campus. They're building just a huge, huge school that will basically attract a lot of minority families so that they can get out of MPS. MPS so they can have a life raft out of that failing sinking ship where they have zero percent. In some districts in Milwaukee, there is a zero percent reading proficiency rate, zero percent. It's just despicable. And then they have what black queer feminism being taught in the schools or being taught to the teachers to then infiltrate it down to the schools. By the way, in Milwaukee, I used to visit a, I'm so proud of this school, St. Anthony's in Milwaukee, is doing an amazing job. I'm sure there's other charters and other Catholic schools trying to do the best they can to help those kids. But thousands of Hispanic and black kids and poor white kids are trapped in some

of the worst schools and shame on those unions, shame on Governor Evers, shame on everybody who is robbing them of their education dollars and trying to just separate them from their parents and their values. Of a future. Of a future, yes. Being an activist, you know, busting a building, starting fires, you know, wearing a mask that doesn't pay well. But a well-educated young mind that can go out and innovate and create and work hard, you know, to earn a salary to support a family. They're getting robbed of that because they're not going to have the basic skills to be a good employee.

But again, the teachers union Democrats don't care about that they care about i want an activist it's about politics not about kids we need to educate children stop indoctrinating them into this destructive ideological worldview they aren't social justice foot soldiers they're kids leave them alone and let's protect their innocence. Let's not sexualize them early. Let's not bring in comprehensive sexuality education into kindergartners' classrooms. Very nefarious things that are happening and supported by organizations like Planned Parenthood and these global UN campaigns to basically depopulate the world. We need substantive protections for both students and parents.

And that's what we fight for at Moms for Liberty, to ensure that K-12 education centers around academic excellence and not woke indoctrination, as Governor DeSantis said. So every moment a teacher is spent indoctrinating a kid and talking about this, this garbage, that's a moment they're not learning to read. That's a moment they're not learning the essential skills they need and take it from, take it from somebody who without education, without education. And, and by the time I was in middle school, I attended Catholic schools. And my parents had to clean bathrooms. And I relied on charity to have that opportunity, of which I'm so grateful.

Because without education, I could be a statistic. Education was the life raft I needed so that I could be the first college graduate, so I could get admitted to law school. be the first college graduate. So I could get admitted to law school without education. I could still be in the same situation as so many others. And in my family, they are, listen, Puerto Rican, I've got about three or 400 cousins in Milwaukee. And a lot of them follow me and they just are blown away. They didn't know what was happening. And now that they know, like, you know, just as you said, Rachel, we are as Hispanics, we familia, we are very culturally conservative. And the Democrats have been lying to us for so long. And now we're exposing that lie as they come after our children.

exposing that lie as they come after our children. You know, in a place like California, there are many children of Spanish-speaking families that are being indoctrinated into gender ideology and into transitioning and with tragic, tragic consequences. So I think that in the Black and in the Hispanic community, the Black community, very Christian, very religious, in the Black and in the Hispanic community, the Black community, very Christian, very religious, there are opportunities, but we have to go to these places and talk to them. We cannot be afraid to talk to people. My best conversations that I have, you know, there's so much alignment and so much that we have to agree with, so much more that we agree with than we disagree with if we just talk to each other and stop you know typing on social media and and that's my mission for the rest of this year to go out and have those conversations so that we can build a consensus so that we can dispel the myths not book b banners. We don't hate people.

We we I am in this now because I hate what's in front of me, because I love what's behind me, which are my children, my family, my grandchildren, my community. I love them so much that I'm willing for them. We'll have more of this conversation after this. I do hate what they're teaching my kids. I don't hate them, but I hate what they're teaching. I do. I do, too. You're you know what? you're not a social justice warrior but you are a warrior there is no doubt you're a warrior and I really encourage everyone

to go to your twitter handle give everyone your twitter handle really quick your x handle yes my x handle at scarlett the number 4 kids 4 kids scarlett 4 kids you are 4 kids at Scarlett, S-C-A-R-L-E-T-T, the number four kids. Four kids. Scarlett, four kids.

You are four kids. You make me proud. I really hope that when some of this activism might lead you down the course to seeking political office, boy, does our country need representatives like you. And honestly, when that Senate seat was open, I remember Sean, I thought you would be a great candidate for that. I said, maybe that Scarlet girl should jump in. But I hope that it leads you somewhere where you can continue to make your voice even louder and reach more people. And I really commend you. I can tell you're doing it from the heart.

I can tell you're doing it from the heart. It's really obvious. And it's people like you who make a difference, who are on the ground doing that quiet work, that loud work, hopefully, that will change. As you said, we are building a city that we might not see, but hopefully our kids will. Scarlett, thank you for being with us at the kitchen table. We are very grateful. Amazing. Thank you for being with us at the kitchen table. We are very grateful. Amazing. Thank you for having me. And the last thing that I would say is don't rock the boat loses in every history book ever.

So rock the boat. Amen to that. I love it. I love it. I love it. Thanks for joining us, Scarlett. Keep us posted on how the lawsuit goes. Maybe let us know because we'd like to see how that turns out. Hate those kind of intimidation tactics. So thanks for joining us and good luck with everything. Thank you. Have a good weekend. Well, boy, Sean, you know, sometimes you wonder if there's hope out there and you meet someone like that who's just kind of doing the work, going to school board meetings,

taking the punches, taking a lawsuit. And she's still fighting and she's still hopeful and she still believes in what she's doing. And she's, she's, she's, you know, she's unstoppable. Someone Susia, um, for defamation of first amendment, right. That you have to express displeasure with one of this, this, this DEI social justice coordinator. And it costs money. It is stress that you deal with when you're involved in a lawsuit. It's just Donald Trump.

And they didn't shut her down. No. She's still going. She's still fighting. Here's what I find interesting, Rachel. You made this point. Here's what I find interesting, Rachel, and you made this point. Wisconsin was, if not the first, one of the first states to experiment with school choice. It did in the greater Milwaukee area.

Tommy Thompson, our former governor, was an innovator in this space. way this works, the only way the left is able to get your kids and to indoctrinate your kids with these crazy ass teachers is that they have a monopoly. It's a cartel. It's a cartel. You're stuck sending your kids to the cartel to get indoctrinated. But the moment the cartel is broken and your governors and your legislature give you a right to take your child somewhere else, people don't want for their child to be indoctrinated. They want their kids to get an education. The cartel collapses as soon as you give parents the choice. And then there's options and you'll see options pop.

Even right now, there may not be options available. Those options will present themselves because good parents, yes, it will. That's how you defeat this. It's really hard. And to Scarlett's point, you're going to spend generations trying to recapture the school system, the public school system. Don't try. Capture your governorships and your legislatures and give school choice give the money back to the family and let them pick a school that works for them and this crazy crap in our school systems will collapse because no kids are going to go there yeah i mean there's definitely that is the best political solution on a very personal level and you and I have had to make this decision.

And millions of families across America made this decision after COVID, which was, I'm done. I'm taking my kids out. I'm either going to homeschool them. I'm going to charter school. I'm going to find a private school that works, a Catholic school that works for them. And the thing is, you know, we've said,

you know, do you want to spend your dinners deprogramming your kids and as she said you know as scarlet said some of this stuff is so deep it's you don't even have enough time over dinner to deprogram your kids from the stuff because they they tuck it into every bit of the curriculum and so if you have an hour for dinner they have your your child for seven hours a day they have your child for seven hours a day. They do it everywhere. You can't beat them. What I was going to say is that for some people, taking them out is the only solution

because you're not going to have enough time. God bless those people at the school boards. I know Scarlett was one of them. God bless them. I love them. I think they're warriors. I think they're fighters for their kids. They're mama bears. They're bless them. I love them. I think they're warriors. I think they're fighters for their kids, their mama bears or papa bears. I love it. But at some point you just have to save your own kid. And we've talked about that before. Um, but the whole system has to be changed. And, and that is something, um, that, you know, just has to happen.

So I'm going to tell, just give me one minute. Cause we had a lot of kids we do have a lot of kids we still do have a lot of kids and we were talking with a history teacher of one of our children and he was talking we had a concern about howard zinn's history of the world this was in an old school not a school there now they're at a nice i'm not that's their way of school now this would never happen in the current school but by the the way, this was a Catholic school, but it was a kind of woke Catholic school. And we're concerned because Howard Zinn's a communist, and it's a history of America. It's a revisionist history of America through a Marxist lens. It's called A People's History. It's a hater's lens. If you want to hate America, read this book. All our kids,

if you wonder why they hate America, because they all have learned American history through this. This is the number one history book. Communist who hates our country. That's right. So they look at it through oppressor, oppressed. So we see that our child is reading Howard Zinn's People's History. We're like, what? You'd be kidding me.

Or at least it's our counter to it. Like, here's the communist version of American history. And here's the American version of American history, right? The communist version? No, it's just the communist version. So we went and talked to him. And he was young, not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he was like, well, my instructors at the University of blank. It's a University of Wisconsin system school.

They taught us. We were instructed that this is the book that we use for history to teach the kids. And he had all this woke garbage language defending his choice to teach our children Howard Zinn's view of American history. And he was sure of himself. He was so convinced that what he was doing was right. And we were beside ourselves. And we fought with him. And we argued with him.

But in the end, I think he was just not he just he didn't get it and so we had to actually rewire try to rework our kids with real history but howard zinn's but that was a catholic school yes we were probably the only parents maybe there might have been another another parent who went in and did that but he basically captured captured, you know, 30 kids in each classroom, you know, um, with that, with that ideology. And that is probably the most benign because as she said, that's like, you know, cultural racism, you start getting into this gender ideology. You start really messing with kids heads, their, their whole sense of who they are, um, that it becomes very pernicious.

It might lead them down the track of puberty blockers and chopping off their breasts or their penises. I mean, you get into a whole other thing. We have eight-year-olds and 10-year-olds coming to our house today, right? We're doing a birthday party. It's a joint birthday party. Nobody, at least if you go look at eight-year-olds, look at 10-year-olds, no one should be talking with those children about sex. Maybe a parent, but it's probably young for that.

Too young for that. And the schools are talking to six, seven, eight, 10-year-old kids. Five-year-olds are already, the gender unicorn. These are sick MFs. The gender unicorn that she's talking about is being introduced in kindergarten classes. It's absolutely repulsively disgusting. I'm sorry. If you are a teacher who wants to talk about gender and sexuality with other people's elementary school children, you're a pervert.

You should be on the FBI's must-want list. Exactly. Or must-watch list. But instead, the FBI's going after the parents who are mad and calling them domestic terrorists. It's a wacky world. Thank God there are people like Scarlett, Moms for Liberty. They've also been

vilified, also been tracked, also targeted by our government, which is afraid of moms organizing together against this stuff. So if you have a Monster Liberty chapter in your area, I encourage you to join and give support to these warrior moms who are out there doing the good work. When they show up at school board meetings, go there, support them. It's not easy. My theme to Save America is to save your family,

to save your children. And you save your children by not turning them over to the Marxist leftists. And so figure out in your family how you can do it. But what we're dealing with here in Ozaki County, Wisconsin, deep red, Trump country, this is what we're dealing with. It's happening everywhere. So get a plan, figure it out. When you say figure out the plan, I just want to, before we close up, because I think for a lot of people it can be daunting. You're sending your kids to a public school. It's quote-unquote free, even though you're paying for it with your tax dollars.

These are really tough times. Right now, if you are a grandparent listening or an aunt, maybe you're a single aunt or a single uncle who has some resources, and your nieces and nephews or your grandchildren as a family this should be a family decision to save the kids in your family this is your legacy so if you're a grandparent you know don't wait to leave money for the kids give the money into an education fund and don't wait for college but by the time you get to college it's done the project is over

from the left give the money into an education fund that your your adult children can use towards a a good school that's outside of this um this this monopoly that our government has um and trying to indoctrinate your kids so there's lots of ways that families can make this work you can prioritizing your child's education and keeping them away from these, many of them groomers, some of them just, you know, twisted people. That's your job. You can pot up with other families and you can all break up the education of, you know, your kids in homeschool. But also if you're a grandparent that doesn't have money but has time, maybe you can go, you know what?

I'll do the damn homeschooling for the kids. You know what? I'm going to do it. And I want to spend time with my grandkids anyway. I'll take it on. Grandma and grandpa are going to do it. But figure out the options because your kids are way too valuable and mean too much to us to let them be subjected to this sick crap. I got to stop this podcast because I'm getting too angry and I'm starting to use foul language.

I appreciate Scarlett, all her great work, standing up and fighting. More people do that. We're going to win this. We're going to win one for America. We're going to win one for the Gipper, too. Yeah, she liked the Gipper. She loved the Gipper. Listen, thanks for joining us on our

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