From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - University Stands Up To Students & John Rich's Anti-Woke Anthem

Episode Date: July 29, 2022

On this episode, Sean and Rachel weigh in on a walk-out organized at the University of Michigan Medical School, over a pro-life doctor appearing as a keynote speaker. They discuss the politicization of the medical field and the Left's outrage over the Supreme Court's decision on Roe v. Wade. Later, they talk about country musician, John Rich's new anti-woke hit song "Progress" and how he was able to sidestep the music industry by using social media to get to the top of the charts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Thank you, Sean. It's great to be back at our kitchen table. And we have a couple of really interesting topics today. The first is something that happened at the University of Michigan at their medical school, where a bunch of students walked out on a professor because they didn't agree with her views. That doesn't sound like breaking news at all. Does that, Sean? No, it doesn't. That happens all the time. And then we're also going to talk about some positive stuff. John Rich, our friend here, works here at Fox News. He's also an amazing country music star. And his song with like no marketing, no label behind it is like hit number one, knocking every other superstar off the charts. And it's a song with a very conservative political message. And so I

think it's really interesting and a sign of just where the country's at and that people have woken up. But let's start with this topic at the University of Michigan, Sean. Medical students, they have what they call a white coat ceremony. I didn't really know that this existed. I don't have any kids in medical school, but I guess it's a big moment where kids, the students go and they invite their parents. It's sort of the, they have a speech, there's a speech, there's a ceremony. It's the first time they put on their white lab coats and it's, it's quite symbolic. They invited a doctor, Kristen Collier, who's a very beloved professor and doctor at the university to speak. And before she could even give her remarks, all of these students, a bunch of students and their

parents walked out and it was all captured on on video, posted on Instagram and all the social media accounts. And I guess it says a lot, just about universities but i'm concerned sean about the politicization of medicine because that's something we've seen a lot of over the last two years so my question for you rachel is why did they stand up and walk out on her because she was pro-life so do you mind if i read what she wrote um by the way her speech was not about abortion students who some of them are even pro-choice, who like her and have had her as a professor, say that she is compassionate,

never talks about her political views. But she has, on her own personal account and in speeches that she has given, and she is part of a pro-life doctors association. Here's a quote from her and how she approaches the idea of life. She says, holding onto a view of feminism, where one fights for the rights of all women and girls, especially those who are most vulnerable. I can't not lament the violence directed at my

prenatal sisters in the act of abortion done in the name of autonomy. And then she continues and says, liberation that costs innocent lives is just oppression that is redistributed. Sean? Listen, I look at this and there's so much here. So number one, I think you made a really interesting point, Rachel, that she's not a political type professor. We see that in schools where you have professors injecting their political views in the classroom all over the map on topics that don't involve politics. They become about politics. And here you have a medical professor who doesn't inject her personal beliefs into the classroom. And to your point, Rachel, many of her liberal students, pro-abortion students have said, listen, she's a great teacher. She never brings up her personal views when it's not related to the instruction in the class.

walk out, not because of what she teaches in the school, not because of the qualifications of her as a professor or a doctor. They stand up and walk out because of a personal belief that she has, which is she's pro-life. And what I find fascinating is that those of us who are pro-life have to put up with pro-abortionists all over the map in every corner of life and business and schools all over, but that they have one presenter who is pro-life, but not talking about the life issue, they can't stand that. They can't be in the same room as someone who has a different opinion from them. And I think it's, and again, I know we'll talk about medicine as a whole, but the idea that we can't associate, be in the same room with someone who has a political different idea than we do. And our whole society, our whole government is based on disagreement and debate.

And the concept behind that is that if people can debate and argue about issues using words, then they don't use violence. They don't grab guns and sticks and rocks and fight each other. They actually debate it and fight each other. They actually debate it and vote on it. And what's happening now is we're teaching young people through the school system that there's no debate. There's one viewpoint, and it's the viewpoint of the liberal progressives. And that's the only accepted view that we can have. And if anyone has a different view, they're violent. Their speech and their ideas are violence. Well, so these groups, these students, these pro-choice students did try to lobby the university to not have her speak.

They wanted her removed as the keynote speaker. And to University of Michigan's credit, they did not cave to these demands. And so these students were very angry that they didn't get their way. And so they expressed their disappointment by walking out, which was really rude. And by the way, I actually had time this morning, I wanted to listen to what were her remarks that day. And gosh, she gave the most amazing speech. And if you get a chance, if you're listening to this, you want to listen to what the medical profession should be, listen to the speech. She gave a speech about how

patients and doctors should beware that they are not machines and that doctors, especially who are trained in science and use so much technological instruments and things in their profession should, you know, beware of not reducing themselves or their patients to machines. And she talked about bringing humanity into the profession and that it's human to human. And that is what makes it a unique profession and a unique relationship between a doctor and a patient and how even, you know, doctors need to take care of themselves so they can take care of others. And they're not machines and they have to sleep and eat and take care of themselves to be at their optimal. So it was an amazing speech. And if, as I said, I recommend

people go back, you can find it on social media, but this idea, Sean, about science, I mean, it's quite possible that, and I don't know what this doctor's position is on how she came to her position as a pro-lifer, but it's very possible that she came to it through science. It's very hard to deny the humanity of a child in a child in utero and a doctor would know that as much or more than anyone else. We did a story not long ago. I don't know, it was maybe four or five months ago on Fox and Friends, where a doctor was basically put on some sort of timeout by his administration because he talked about male and female and wanted to stick to the biology and the science of gender. And the students were having none of it. And so we ended up interviewing, I believe that doctor and other doctors on the show and just how

much these medical schools are changing, Sean, because these students are really the enforcers. And so whether their ideas are based in science or not, like gender, male and female, they want their professors to have their ideological point of view and they will report them and harass them and threaten their careers if they don't bow and bend to their ideology. No, it's a really good point. And I think what concerns me about this is we do have a woke-ification of youth in America. And the question becomes, where does that come from? And I think a lot of kids who are raised in conservative homes become, again, wokefied. And it's happening on social media. If you don't see the feeds that your kids are getting on social media, you should.

And see what kind of interaction they're having there, because these ideas are being fed from them, from the radical leftists in Silicon Valley. That's number one. But also, can I just say that that's such an important point because so many conservatives are focusing on the schools and and that's important. But if you talk to, you know, when we talk to our kids, if any of those listening talk to your own kids or your grandkids, they spend far more time on their social media and their social media is far more influential and their and their peer influencers are far more time on their social media and their social media is far more influential and their peer influencers are far more influential than their, you know, 55-year-old math teacher, right? I mean, that is the truth. And the flip side to your point is also the K through 12 schools. The teachers in those schools have become so radicalized in the teaching

colleges and universities and And they take those ideas into the classroom and impart them to your kids. And so what you've now seen is this speeding up of this radical change in the country. And there's no space that liberals can leave untouched. And we see it with technology. We've seen it with movies. We've seen it with news. We now are talking about what's happening in medical schools. The same thing is happening in law schools. Every space that there is, it's the DOJ, the FBI, the spaces that liberalism and wokeism and radicalism has infected is all over culture. And I mean, a few of the spaces that it doesn't exist are on farms in America, in small businesses that have been able to repel and resist this. And

it's an older generation who, you know, listen, we're older than this, you know, Gen Z millennial generation, and we're on social media far less and far less influenced by our peers on social media. And I think it's a real, it's a real, it's really hard to grasp how we can get our hands around a fair debate again in America, because if we don't fix this, I think the future is pretty grim because again, people can't have conversations. People can't have their own thoughts. They won't be able to go to the doctor and have an unbiased, non-woke doctor. They're going to have an agenda. Not only that, I'm concerned about the courts. you know, social justice wires on the bench, just like we've seen with prosecutors, justice isn't blind any longer. Justice has a political point of view, and that's never the way our system has worked. Yeah, I mean, I'm glad you brought up the justice system. So we saw, you know, first it was universities that got, you know, sort of infected, as you call it,

with this Marxist ideology, went into our secondary schools, our primary schools, we now know our preschools and Head Start programs are full of ideology. But then we started to see it. I first started to see it creep into the medical schools. And now we're seeing it in law schools. And we're seeing the fruits of that, by the way. But I do have some friends whose kids went to medical school, and they were also telling me about a lot of the ideological pressure their kids were under to agree to a lot of this gender biology stuff. It was super pro-choice, and their children were pro-life, and they were struggling to kind of keep that on the down low because they were afraid.

But let's talk more recently, Sean, about what happens when ideology takes over in medicine, because we've just experienced this over the last two years. And also, when people just don't have the courage to stand up for their conviction. So one of my biggest disappointments during the COVID era was how few doctors were willing to stand up to the medical establishment, to their hospital administrators who were getting a lot of pressure from the federal government to not question anything that was being commanded from up on high. I talked to so many doctors who didn't agree with what was being told for them to do in terms of vaccines for kids, in terms of lockdowns, who actually thought they should be able as doctors to prescribe ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine who were upset that they would call in prescriptions for their patients and their hospitals would rain down on them. Or even pharmacists at Walmart would call them and question their prescription, something they said that never happened to them as a doctor in their entire medical profession. And yet so many of them were not brave, Sean. They stood back.

And the few doctors who have stepped forward, boy, I mean, from Dr. Atlas to, you know, McAuliffe and even doctors that we, you know, their names aren't as familiar. Those doctors were made examples of. They were ridiculed. Many of them are now vindicated on a massive level and no apology has come. And so I'm just worried for the profession in general because there seems to be not a lot of courage among these doctors. Really disappointed because they could have really stopped a lot of this if they had acted in unison, but then seeing how so many of these young doctors, of course,

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We'll have more of this conversation after this. Well, you know, on top of that, you look at a young doctor who you just mentioned that might push back on the COVID science. I mean, in the science, by the way, there was no treatment for much of COVID. There was no treatment protocols that were put out. And if a doctor was going, listen, I'm going to try a set of protocols that I think will work. Oftentimes they were threatened with the loss of their license. The licensing boards and states were threatening doctors. And if you're not independently wealthy, and you got a lot of debt from school, you can't lose your license. And so that was a huge

bludgeon that the woke establishment was able to use, threatening doctors with a pulling of their license or defending their license and what they're doing with regard to treatments for COVID. And again, this example just goes to show how deeply this has penetrated into the culture of America, but also into the medical community. And when you talk about science, we have to be able to have open minds. We have to be able to say, listen, we got this wrong. To say that the vaccine for COVID is actually a vaccine when it doesn't stop the spread of COVID or that it's a therapeutic. But there's no studies to show that as a therapeutic, and I use the vaccine in air quotes, that the vaccine actually gives better results for someone who has the vaccine and boosted as compared to someone who does not. Those studies haven't been done.

and boosted as compared to someone who does not, those studies haven't been done. No double-blind, peer-reviewed studies have been put out to say that if you're vaxxed and boosted, your symptoms of COVID are less than someone who was not vaxxed and boosted. And so I have no problem accepting that, but why aren't we doing those studies? It's just they come out and basically want us to accept things on faith, and my concern about that is, why? What agenda is behind that? What is the purpose behind that?

Why don't we want to have debate? Why don't we want to have people question the decisions that are made by government science? That government science may be wrong, because I would think the intent of all doctors and all scientists is to get the best outcomes for people. I want to save the most lives. I want to save the most lives. I want to protect the most lives by having the best recommendations and the best science and the best protocols. And if you don't have that, people lose their lives, people get hurt. And

that's why the whole COVID example that you bring up is really powerful, because I don't think that's what our doctors and our scientists were providing for us. And I do think we'll see as time rolls on, people were hurt by the decisions that were made. Don't you think, Sean, too, that the young people were the most young people, including a lot of young people who were residents? I knew some during the COVID process, they were the most compliant. To me, young people were the most trusting and compliant of all the government edicts that were coming out of Washington that made no sense. And I noticed, again, the few young people that I knew in residencies were, you know, little, you know, I don't know how to,

little robots, like following orders. And look, I get it. If you're a resident, it's hard to, you know, you're low on the totem pole and it's hard to buck, you know, the system or fight the system. But they were not, it was not that these were young residents who had to keep quiet and they knew better. It's like they were the enforcers and for and and enforcing their parents and and, you know, just really buying everything hook, line and line and sinker. And that's the part that has always concerned me, you know, back to this situation at the University of Michigan. I again want to say that I'm really proud of the University of Michigan. I think as disappointed as I am in those students for being so disrespectful and not being able to listen to another point of view,

which by the way, conservatives do all the time. I have to say that the university stood strong. They allowed her to speak as she should, and she delivered an amazing message. So I want to move to another. One last point on that, Rachel, is I think it's important that when you look at the Dobbs decision that overturned Roe v. Wade and the greater debate we're having on the abortion issue, the life issue, this has been sent back to the states. And this has been mentioned on our podcast a lot. And you've seen it on conservative media a lot. But these liberals talk about democracy and it's an offense to democracy and I'm supporting democracy.

And it's this destruction of the English language because democracy would mean that in the Dobbs decision, you've given this issue of life versus abortion to the voters, and they get to actually decide for themselves through the ballot box what they want, and that these little woke liberals who are pro-abortion will stand up and walk out because this could actually be decided by people, what they think is right for their community and their state. that's offensive to them because they have this idea that my way is the right way and I can't tolerate anyone who has a different opinion. I don't want you to have a vote.

I don't want you to have a say. It's this authoritarian viewpoint that has been fed into the minds of our kids, little soldiers for the Marxist movement? A hundred percent. But I think it's more than just that it's my way or the highway. It's that anybody, everybody knows, and especially those in the medical profession know, that they're losing this battle on the basis of science. So they want, they don't want this to go back to the people who can evaluate the science. And by the way, the science is in their doctor's office every time they go get an ultrasound, which is 4D and proves beyond the shadow of a doubt the humanity of a of a fetus.

These are people who are denying science and basic fetal development that we've known for decades now because we have had this window into the womb. And they also, you know, are very secretive about what happens inside of abortion clinics for the exact same reason. Because as Abby Johnson told me on Fox and Friends, when I interviewed her shortly after the decision for Roe versus Wade, she said, listen, when you have to do what I had to do in my clinic, when I was the director of Planned Parenthood, and I had to occasionally go to the back of the clinic, you know, behind the curtains that no one gets to see behind. And after a woman has an abortion, we have to count and stack all the little baby body parts to make sure everything was removed from the womb.

When you see little hands and you see little feet and you see the procedure itself as she has, there's just no denying the humanity of a fetus and there's no denying what is happening in there. And so these euphemisms of this is healthcare and the statement by these students who came out was like, she's denying women healthcare. I'm so sick of these Nazi-like euphemisms. It is not healthcare to take the life of another person. It is not healthcare to end a life. And that is what they're talking about. And the evidence is in the back of the room. The evidence is in the hearings that you had, Sean, on Capitol Hill, where you examine the evidence obtained by a very brave whistleblower on the sale of baby body parts,

something that is so gruesome and that many of these universities, many of these medical universities are participating in. And so, you know, again, everyone's entitled to their point of view. You're absolutely right. Democracy wins when it goes back to the states. And you're also right, Sean, that it should be left up to the people who are very smart and have caught on to the science through going to ultrasounds and seeing their little babies or their siblings in utero through this amazing technology of 4D ultrasound. So I want to move to another topic because this is a really great topic. You and I love country music. And that's been something that's always something that we've always had in common, you and I. But the other day, I played for you a song that my sister sent me, and I loved it

so much. I thought it I'm just so thrilled that it's now number one. Maybe we could just play a clip of that. Progress where the sun don't shine. So, Sean, that was John Rich, of course. He released this on Truth Social and Rumble. It reached number one on the iTunes charts. And he was asked about it and he said, here I am with no record label, no publisher, no marketing deal. It's bypassing this machine that they've built going right around the machine, going right to the people. Again, another one where it goes right to the people and the people win. Right, Sean? Well, it is. And it's like this idea that the culture, the music, the media, the movies want to sell us this set of woke ideas.

Half plus of America is still conservative, still loves this country, still wants to have policies in place that aren't going to destroy our future for our next generations. And that's what John Rich is singing about. And it's amazing to your point, Rachel. Rich is singing about. And it's amazing to your point, Rachel, he circumvented all the different stops that a music maker would have to make to get their music from the studio to the American people. John went around those, went to the American people, and it skyrocketed to number one. And what I love about it is when he's going to make a lot of money off it, we've downloaded it. It's now on our playlist. But others will do the same thing, and John will be rewarded for putting out a great song. What's happening here, Rachel, is it's channeling the way so many Americans feel. This is the way they feel inside. These

are the conversations they have in their home, and John Rich puts it to music, and they listen to it, and they love it. So So Sean, do you realize it actually went to number one within hours? So he released it on Rumble and Truth Social and conservatives started sharing it everywhere because like you said, he was channeling how we feel. I mean, let me just, if you haven't downloaded the song, you absolutely must. It's called Progress. It's called Progress. It's called progress.

It's called progress. He says in this song, he says, if you leave us alone, well, we'd all just be fine. Stick your progress where the sun don't shine. And I think this goes back to just how conservatives feel. I think a lot of conservatives feel like it's not that we're upset that they're woke. It's that they won't leave us alone. That's right. They're in our business every step of the way. We can't have our own ideas, our own viewpoints. We can't have our own speech. We can't debate. They want to shut us down, shut us up. And I think America and a lot of Americans will not be silenced. And again,

you see that here with this song. And I think more people are getting courage, Rachel, to stand up and push back and fight back. And it's a beautiful thing. And if we're going to preserve this country, it's going to be people who have courage to push back against what's happening because it's absolute insanity. And yeah, I couldn't be prouder of them. And so, listen, this has been a great podcast in the sense that we get to talk about kind of a depressing issue where these young, woke doctors get up and walk out of a great speech that had nothing to do with abortion, but they don't like her personal view on abortion. And then talk about a great story of— The university stood up. The university didn't cave. That's progress, Sean.

That is progress. And that we get a song progress from John Rich that goes to number one. And it shows the power of all of you sharing stories and music like this and the reach that we have. And maybe it goes to the point, Rachel, why so many other platforms wanted to shut us down, why Twitter wants to shut you down. Because if you share stuff, there's so many of us.

Ideas spread. They can't have that. But that's why if you go to True there's so many of us, ideas spread, they can't have that. But that's why if you go to True Social or to Rumble and you have a free exchange of ideas on a platform, things are explosive, ideas are explosive, and John Rich found music can be explosive on those platforms. Yeah, that was such a technique of theirs during the pandemic to isolate us. Then if we tried to create community online, then they would censor you and make you afraid that you might lose your job if you, you know, questioned all these government edicts that made no sense. But you're right,

there are more of us. I think the pandemic has woken a lot of people up to education, to health care, to, you know, the corruption of the government and big pharma and oligarchs and the Great Reset. And I think you sense it as a congressman who's still so connected to so many of your friends and colleagues in Congress. You know there's going to be a tsunami in the midterms. It's very obvious people are tuned in, very angry, upset about the economy, upset about what happened in Afghanistan, upset about what's happening with schools and crime and everything else. And their voices are going to be heard. And I think in many ways, this John Rich song progress is is that embodiment of that waking up

people who just normally just want to be left alone. And that is true. That is all conservatives want. They want to be left alone, but the liberals won't let us. And so we're going to have to take back power in November. And and I think that's what this song is about. And I think it's a positive thing that it's it's it's a hit. It's beating out everybody. Lady Gaga, Lizzo, all the big stars that with all the corporate backing and all, and all the right, you know, you know, politics that the liberals love. And here's John rich, um, little old John rich. He's not a little old. He's pretty rich himself. Like literally he's very rich. Um, but he released it with no marketing, no promotion, and it goes to number one. So, um, awesome job. Uh, great talking to you, Sean, um, and everybody else today at the kitchen table and looking forward to doing this again.

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