From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Why Democrats Will Pay Political Price For Jan 6th Hearing

Episode Date: June 9, 2022

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down to discuss the prime-time congressional hearing that is investigating the events on Capitol Hill on January 6th.   Sean and Rachel talk about the media obses...sion with the Capitol riot, the real issues that face the American people such as record setting inflation, and touch upon the narratives being pushed surrounding January 6th. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:01:25 the beautiful, the hot, the ever awesome Rachel Campos Duffy. That's a really nice intro. Good morning and welcome. I'm so happy to be back at our kitchen table with all of our listeners. And today it's just you and I. Yeah. We've been, we're going to do a little ranting about what's going on in the country. As we were preparing for today's podcast, you just want to sit and rant about what's going on. Yes, I want to rant because today is a big day. Today is the show trial of the century where Democrats are going to have a hearing on January 6th. Right. They want to January 6th, about January 6th. Right. They want to about January 6th. They want to lay out to the American people how evil the protesters were and how evil Donald Trump is, how this was an insurrection.
Starting point is 00:02:17 They wanted to overthrow the government. And this is their time to actually present their evidence to the American people. And I want to take a second and talk about kind of how they have set this up and how this goes against every precedence that exists in the house because um when you have a hearing in the house there's there's a standard either a hearing will start at 10 o'clock in the morning or they'll start at two o'clock in the afternoon now sometimes hearings go a long time you can have a hearing that'll start at two o'clock or even ten o'clock and it'll bleed into the night right right? That happens all the time. But for this hearing, they're actually starting it at eight o'clock at night, right? Which is not normal. Listen, this is not normal at all. And they brought in an ABC TV executive, James Goldston, to give a little pizzazz and a little life to the presentation of the American people.
Starting point is 00:03:03 Is he putting together like a package, like a video package or what's he doing? Well, I think he's there trying to help orchestrate the committee and how they present this, what order they may go in. He's like producing the hearing. Producing the hearing. That's right. So he's not producing a video. He's literally producing the hearing.
Starting point is 00:03:19 That's what he's doing. That's what we suspect he's been brought in for. Why else bring in an ABC executive producer? It is. And here's what's interesting. And, you know, this because I would always call you throughout the day. But members of Congress actually don't like hearings at night. Right. There's a reason for that. So I'm going to pull the curtain back for you. Oftentimes, members of Congress, they'll go to dinner. They'll go to a fundraiser. They'll get together and have a beer together. They'll go back to their offices and prep for the next day.
Starting point is 00:03:50 The day is so packed, so busy. You give appointments every 15 minutes. I would look at Sean's schedule and I would get exhausted just looking at the schedule. So the evening is when they can decompress and also they can go out and go to fundraisers and raise money. So yeah, I could see why you guys would not like evening hearings. Unless you're trying to present to the American people, a narrative. In prime time. It's about prime time. It's about prime time. That's right. The most viewers possible, all the big networks, ABC, NBC, CBS, MSNBC, CNN,
Starting point is 00:04:21 Fox business, all covering. So are they all carrying their. They're going to carry it live. The only one that's going to stick with their regular programming, thank God, is going to be Fox News. But I don't understand because I mean, you and I, A, know lots of members of Congress who have a very good pulse on what the American people care about and are thinking about and are talking about as they're on the campaign trail.
Starting point is 00:04:41 But also through our own work, we know the news cycle. We have, you know, our own reporters who are on the ground talking to people, seeing what they care about. Oh, look, Valentina just walked in. We thought we thought we thought we had her occupied with Mickey Mouse Clubhouse, but she just came in anyway. But we know what people care about. And I've not heard one poll that shows January 6th as a top issue for the Americans right now. And I've never seen the American people more angry about the economy, about crime, about what's happening at the border. would do this and put this up as their top issue, but also why the media would, you know, these networks would do it for them because this is not a top issue. It's not. And I think to your point, Rachel, Americans would be delighted if there was a primetime ABC executive produced
Starting point is 00:05:39 hearing on gas prices. Yeah, they could they could air me going out to the oil rig on pride time. To the oil rig, that's right. Or Rachel going to the border. We care about a 15,000 person caravan of people coming across our southern border, which by the way, if you look at the mass of that caravan, that's the number of people that's coming into the country every day. They would care about that. They care about prices at the grocery store. They care about all the things that affect their bottom line, their family budget. They would care. I think moms and dads across America care about the baby formula crisis. Or the impending, as we hear, there's going to be an inflation bomb coming up
Starting point is 00:06:17 in the fall. And we've talked to people like the CEO of Goya, babu naway and others who say oh my goodness the food shortages um and they're going to hurt the poor um not just in our country but around the world we're going to see you know rise in famine actually i mean these are massive problems going on by the way we still have a war in ukraine for which we're we just sent 40 billion billion. We just had a shooting in Uvalde that the country is still heartbroken and reeling from. I'm in shock. I am too. And what concerns me even more is
Starting point is 00:06:55 there's a forever precedence in the House and it goes back to our founding where each party gets the opportunity to place their own members on committees. So if you look at the Ways and Means Committee, that's the tax writing committee. There's more Democrats than Republicans because Democrats have the majority. So they get more seats on Ways and Means, but Republicans get to put members on Ways and Means as well. And how do those members get on the committee? The party itself decides what member sits on what committee. Nancy Pelosi doesn't decide what Republicans sit on.
Starting point is 00:07:30 Kevin McCarthy does. And Kevin McCarthy doesn't decide what Democrats sit on a committee. So for the first time in this Congress, Nancy Pelosi has changed that rule. First time in congressional history that this has happened. Absolutely. She first started with saying, you know what? I don't like Marjorie Taylor Greene. I don't like I don't like what Marjorie Taylor Greene said before she was elected to Congress. I don't like her attitude.
Starting point is 00:08:00 And so even though Kevin McCarthy and Republicans have placed her on a committee, I don't like it. And I'm going to vote to take her off. We in the majority this January 6th committee, this was a different this was a different committee. Right. take her off. We and the majority this January 6th committee. This was a different this was a different committee. Right. So that was the first time she did it. But now she did it with the January 6th committee. She said, you know what? I don't think Republicans are really interested in finding the truth about January 6th. And therefore, I'm not going to let Kevin McCarthy put Jim Jordan, Jim Banks. I'm not going to put Republicans on the committee to investigate what happened to have a bipartisan effort in abortion industry was selling little baby aborted body parts for a massive profit. And what universities and businesses. Valentina, in the one time she chimed in was this issue. That's right for you, Valentina.
Starting point is 00:08:59 But this was they thwarted us, but they still had a right to be on the committee. Right. And we had a great debate. We had to be better on the committee to debate them on this really serious issue. And what concerns me, Rachel, is this was not about finding the truth about January 6th, the good, the bad, the ugly. Who was at fault? What role did the FBI play? Why don't we know the pipe? Who placed the pipe bombs? Why is there no, you know, information on that? I mean, there's so many things that are questionable. Why did why does our news shouldn't have been a Capitol policeman because he had been negligent with his own firearm in the past. All of these things. So who is on the committee from the Republican side that Nancy has? So I would make one other point and we'll talk about that. But Brian Sicknick, if you recall, he was a Capitol police officer who the news media again, they had to have known this was false from the very beginning. They said he had passed away because someone had hit him with like a fire extinguisher or
Starting point is 00:10:11 then someone had sprayed bear spray at him and he had died at the Capitol because of injuries sustained in the protest. But we later learned that he died at home from natural causes. And this was months later that we learned this, but that fit the narrative that this was a violent riot, a violent insurrection. And so. So Sean, can you grab Valentina? Cause she's tearing up your notes over there. It's a lot of fun. Those are his notes for tonight for when he has to host the show and they're all crumpled right now. Listen, you set the kitchen table. That's what you get with us. You know, here's the real problem. I put Mickey Mouse Clubhouse on the computer and I didn't put it on the TV because I couldn't find the remote control for the TV, which is so typical in our house. I know we can't find anything. All right. So continue. So Sicknick, I'm going to grab the
Starting point is 00:11:00 papers while you tell. So this is they try to drive a certain narrative. And if you have Republicans who are going to ask questions about, well, if Donald Trump was supporting an insurrection, why did Donald Trump authorize up to 20,000 National Guardsmen to go to the Capitol? Why didn't the mayor of D.C. call those National Guard up? Why didn't Nancy Pelosi call those guards up? Why don't we have all the video that were shot? Why hasn't that all been released? Does that not fit the narrative? I think those are fair questions. How do you have a primetime hearing when you're and you're setting up the primetime here, you're Nancy Pelosi, but you've blocked hours of footage that the Republicans have demanded to see. And you say no one can see that footage. And why does no one care about the pipe bombs?
Starting point is 00:11:50 I mean, that was part of the story. Right. Right. Why hasn't why hasn't the FBI been able to find the people who set the pipe bomb? I mean, it's fascinating. Right. And I think it's important because if you're confident in your argument, if you're confident in your narrative, you're confident in the debate. You don't mind someone else stepping into the ring with you and having that debate with you. But if you're not confident, if you're telling a false story, you're afraid of all the truth coming out because all the truth may not fit your narrative. Then you have to silence that person. You have to prevent them from getting in the ring with you, which is exactly what Democrats have done on January 6th. Now, there are two Republicans that are sitting on the committee. One is Adam Kinzinger. Adam is a friend of mine. I'm going to say Republicans in quote. I know Adam's your friend, honey.
Starting point is 00:12:37 Adam's a friend of mine. We came into Congress in 2010 together. We disagree on this. We've talked about it over dinner. It's been heated with him because we really disagree on what's happening, but he believes this. And the other is Liz Cheney. Bad lady. The issue, though, is that Nancy Pelosi selected those two Republicans. The Republicans, Kevin McCarthy and the leadership team did not select our Republican members to serve on the committee. And that that's the problem with this. And so, again, this is going to be a show trial for everyone to see. But just know that this is a political trial. This is not about truth. This is not about bringing facts out. This is about presenting a political argument in primetime. And you know what? It's more than that. Why are they continuing to pursue this? They in primetime, they want to change the conversation. And here's the question, Sean, will this work? Because every day, every day, people are passing the I mean, I've never, you know, when we used to gas up our cars, by the way, I would say 15 to one, I gas up the car next to Sean. Like I hate gassing
Starting point is 00:13:46 up the car. So it's mostly Sean. I don't pay attention as much even then, you know, I never really paid attention to how much the gas was. Now, yesterday I had to gas up the car on the way to Paloma's event. Our car, it was $135, Sean, to fill up the SUV. I see. And I went to a gas station in Bhutan, which the kids were like, dad says this is the cheap one. So I went to that one and it was still so expensive. And the kids were like, mom, did that say $135? Yep.
Starting point is 00:14:21 $135. This, you and I can complain about it and we don't like paying it, but we can put food on the table. There are people who cannot put food on the table now. Right now, I just read an article that AAA said that they have more people stranded because what's happening is people aren't filling up the whole tank because they don't have the money to fill up the whole tank. They don't have the $135. So they're putting $20 in or $30 in, and then they end up getting stranded on the roads or seeing this increase in people getting stranded on the road because they've run out of gas because they couldn't afford it.
Starting point is 00:14:56 They couldn't afford to fill the tank. This is massive. And I don't think that this BS about January 6th is going to change the conversation about what's happening at the grocery store, what's happening at the gas pump and people, by the way, on fixed incomes who are struggling to figure out, am I going to pay for my medicine this month or am I going to buy, you know, my food, my groceries? Am I going to ride my bike? Can I get a scooter? Do I get a motorcycle? Do I get something that can get me to work cheaper that I can actually afford this less than a Tesla? That's the a motorcycle? Do I get something that can get me to work cheaper that I can actually afford that's less than a Tesla?
Starting point is 00:15:26 That's the conversation. But I think was it Bear Rabbit who said, don't throw me into the briar patch. Please don't throw me into the briar patch. Was it Bear Rabbit? I don't know this story very well, Sean. But we went on the we go on the ride at Disney, but we don't go to Disney any longer. But that's the old Disney ride, right? We're going to go back to Disney. I'm sorry I cannot put up with this boycott on Disney World. I'd say cancel Disney Plus. No, I'm sorry I cannot put up with this boycott on Disney World. I say cancel Disney Plus, but Disney World
Starting point is 00:15:48 is Disney World. Nope. Sorry. That's a different conversation and different show. As you look at little Valentina. My point with that, though, I don't want to give those radicals one of my hard-earned dollars. I don't. And I love my kids, but I hate Disney more than I love my kids to go to Disney. So there you go. But that's not my
Starting point is 00:16:03 point. My point is something different. No one's going to go to Disney. So there you go. But that's not why that's not my point. My point is something different. No one's going to go to Disney. I think that economy is going to. I think that Republicans are sitting back and going, I can't believe how out of touch and how stupid Democrats are as every single American. When you talk to members of Congress, I know you're just we're in D.C.
Starting point is 00:16:21 When you talk to them, are they are they like are they looking they like are they looking at this trial going, oh, this is hilarious, like this is actually bad politics for the Democrats or are they like whatever? Well, I think they're outraged in how this whole thing has been set up. They're outraged because this is going to ruin longstanding precedent in the House because Kevin McCarthy is going to do the same thing back to Democrats, because you can't have one rule when Democrats in power are in power. And then we go back to that all the time. Republicans, they're not going to this time. But I think what they're saying is we can't believe it because every single American
Starting point is 00:16:57 cares about this politically backfire. You think this will politically backfire? Or do you think people will get distracted and go, oh, white supremacy? No, no. So as you have an interaction, as you have the administration and Democrats basically saying there's nothing we can do about inflation, there's nothing we can do about the border, there's nothing more that we can do on gas prices. But let me tell you what I can do. I can have a hearing on January 6th. Americans don't care about January 6th. They go, if you're focused on January 6th, you're not focused on the fact that I can't, I can't pay for my gas. You're not focused on the fact that I can't get baby formula. And I, you, you nursed most of our babies, but we had to with Valentina formula to
Starting point is 00:17:41 my breast milk because she wasn't getting enough calories. I can't imagine being a parent right now and not being able to get baby formula and feed your baby. Oh my gosh. She had enough problems when she was born with all her issues. And then to not be able to feed, I mean, the anxiety level for me would be through the roof. And by the way, you know, you had on, you were hosting a Larry Kudlow show this week and you had on at least
Starting point is 00:18:01 to phonic who brought up such a great point because people forget about rural America. This is a massive problem for rural Americans. When you have a shortage of something as important in life-saving as formula, you know, if you can't find, if you can't find formula at your local grocery store, you've got to drive an hour. And if there's not any there, you've got to drive another hour to another store. And by the way, gas prices are through the roof. So you've just, you know, spent how many dollars trying to find formula. I mean, for people in rural areas who have to go the distance, this is absolutely, and you can't just go, I'm not going to go get the formula. Or I'd say you're driving half an hour, 45 minutes to Walmart. And if you don't have formula and you drive half an hour, 45 minutes
Starting point is 00:18:44 home, you got to go back the next day and see if there's formula. Or try it in another town. And try another town. That's right. It's absolutely outrageous. But you think this is going to backfire? I think this is going to blow up in their face. I don't think this moves the political needle. I think it just shows how out of touch they are, that they don't care about the issues that face Americans. I think that that's true too, but sometimes we've seen Americans bite the bait of like, you know, getting distracted by that shiny ball of racism and white supremacy. And we've seen them, but I think you're right, Sean, that the situation is different right now because so many people are hurting. And it's one thing if everything's going great in America and you focus on this.
Starting point is 00:19:25 But when everything is going wrong, focus on what's going wrong. And even if you can't fix the problem, you've got to try to fix the problem. And when Democrats aren't even trying to fix the problem, they're not holding hearings on gas prices, on inflation. Those things don't happen. So you go, do you not understand what I'm going through? So it's interesting because you and I were talking a little earlier about what why we think they they mean, because politically speaking, this hearing is dumb, but also politically speaking, not fixing these problems seems really dumb. And you scratch your head. You go, I've never seen an administration not care about gas prices. This is my life. I mean, that's never been the case. Democrat, Republican. Why is that? Why is that?
Starting point is 00:20:10 And it's so interesting. You get a hint of it when you saw Joe Biden on Jimmy Kimmel this week. So on Jimmy Kimmel's show, Joe Biden came on. He got a softball interview from, of course, his big supporter, Jimmy Kimmel. show, Joe Biden came on, he got a softball interview from, of course, his big supporter, Jimmy Kimmel. And Jimmy Kimmel kind of sympathized with Joe Biden and said, hey, you know, I feel bad because you've got these gas prices. And every day, you know, it's like a billboard for people reminding them of, you know, inflation and gas prices. And you can't, you know, and Joe Biden had this excuse. Of course, he said it was the fault of the oil companies and they don't want to produce, which makes no sense at all. But whatever the audience bought it. course, he said it was the fault of the oil companies and they don't want to produce, which makes no sense at all, but whatever. The audience bought it. But then he said,
Starting point is 00:20:55 look, I get it. People are upset about the prices of food and gasoline, but there are other expenses. And he talked about prescription drugs and he talked about child care. And he said, we're helping you to lower those costs. And here's what I think is happening, Sean. What they're doing is they want to impoverish us. This is an administration that is deliberately trying to impoverish us and make us dependent because every solution they have is not to lower prices so we can be financially independent and live our lives. All of it, all of their solutions are subsidies for prescriptions, subsidies, government subsidies for, you know, child care, cancel student debt loan. All of it is meant to make us more and more dependent on them. And therefore, they become more powerful.
Starting point is 00:21:41 The less money you have, less freedom you have. powerful. The less money you have, less freedom you have. And as you as you start to feel poor because of Joe Biden's policies, then he steps in and says, I'm not going to actually fix it. I'm going to offer you these free things. I'm going to offer you these government table. I'm going to offer you crumbs off the government for those crumbs. They take your freedom because if you rely on the government for your food, for your housing, for your health care, they control you. You are not a free man and woman any longer. They are in charge of your life. And that's what they want.
Starting point is 00:22:13 They want more power for themselves and less freedom for you. And that's what this is all about. We'll have more of this conversation after this. As the world's population grows, so does the need for resources like potash to support sustainable food production. This is why BHP is building one of the world's most sustainable potash mines in Canada. Essential resources responsibly produced. This is what BHP has committed to Canada. The future is clear. It's happening now at BHP, a future resources company. To discover how, visit bhp.com slash better future. politically speaking and how the Democrat Party has basically lost them, at least in this in this election cycle.
Starting point is 00:23:09 I've never seen numbers like this. It's absolutely astounding. No demographic is more disappointed, more upset with the Biden administration from a from a data polls perspective than Hispanics. Sixty percent say they are dissatisfied with with President Biden. Almost 60 percent say they will not vote for President Biden, that they will vote for a Republican. We've never seen this before. And I'll tell you the reason why is Hispanics have seen this before. You know, Nicolas Maduro, and on so many levels,
Starting point is 00:23:37 they've seen the corruption, but they've seen this kind of deliberate mismanagement of the economy and handing off. I mean, a lot of this green energy crap, um, mismanagement of the economy, um, and handing off. I mean, a lot of this green energy crap, Sean is about paying off their high donors, um, who are creating so many of these, you know, solar panels and have these deals with China to create all this electric stuff. All of this is, is paying off their friends. All of this is about making us more dependent. You and I had a podcast, which if you, if you haven't seen it, our listeners can go back and get. We interviewed, if you recall, Sean, two Venezuelans.
Starting point is 00:24:11 That's right. And it was a powerful, powerful podcast. At one point, we asked them, when did you know that things were really going down in Venezuela? Because as you know, Sean, I lived in Venezuela when Venezuela was still a wonderful country to live in. It takes a while for the degradation and the and the dysfunction to really start to impact. And I asked them, what when did you know that it was going down? It's OK. Sorry. She's upset about what happened in Venezuela as well. I know. I know. Nicolas Maduro, he ruined everything there. It started with Chavez.
Starting point is 00:24:45 Anyway, and they said, we knew it was going down when the justice system, we saw the economics up, but then when the justice system became corrupted, when there was two tiers of justice, when one side was controlling who could go to jail and who didn't. And don't you feel like we're in that situation from the January 6th hearing that we're seeing
Starting point is 00:25:09 the way those protesters were treated versus the ones who actually caused death and destruction in the summer of 2020 to, you know, everything that we see with prosecutors, which I know drives you nuts as a former prosecutor. But not only that, Rachel. So so you have the premise of the January 6th show trial tonight, which is this was an insurrection. They were trying to overthrow the American government, overthrow the election, which, by the way, you look at the video and you see, you know, I'm not defending people who went to the Capitol. I know we're really upset about. I love the Capitol. I love the Capitol.
Starting point is 00:25:47 I cried when I went in the first time and I was upset that the people would bust in and they would do that. But if you look at what they actually did, if we're being fair to them, so many people were like just walking through the rope lines. They're doing a tour of the Capitol. By the way, why did the Capitol police let them in? I mean, I've gone to the Capitol. You have to go through a metal detector. You have to go. I mean, why were the Capitol Police let them in? I mean, I've gone to the Capitol. You have to go through a metal detector. You have to go. I mean, why were they just let in?
Starting point is 00:26:08 That is the most bizarre thing. That should be the top issue in the hearing tonight. I believe that if you commit a crime, you should be prosecuted. But, you know, you shouldn't be a political prisoner and held, you know, in jail for, you know, a year plus. I don't think that makes sense. By the way, they're a young one of some of these some of these people who have been have in jail for, you know, a year plus. I don't think that makes sense. But there are young, some of these some of these people who have been have been committed suicide because they've been.
Starting point is 00:26:30 But I think what else is interesting, Rachel, and I don't think the media and the Democrats want to talk about when we talk about insurrection, overthrowing an election. That's the premise of January 6th. But that's actually what Democrats tried to do. Hillary Clinton and the Russia collusion, it was a hoax. It was made up by the Democrat campaign. It was made up by Hillary Clinton and her team. And they fed it to the FBI. They fed it to the media. And the media drove a story on Russia collusion. Donald Trump is an agent of Russia. Donald Trump has sold America out to the Russians. Donald Trump won the election only because the Russians interfered and helped get him elected. All of that is false. But they spent four years bashing, demonizing, chastising
Starting point is 00:27:20 Donald Trump, and they impeached him twice because of this Russia collusion narrative. They were trying to take out a duly elected president. Yes. And it wasn't just Democrats. It was the FBI. It was the DOJ. It was the media all working together to undo an election. And so when you talk about an insurrection, when you talk about, you know, someone trying to subvert democracy, they were trying to subvert democracy. They were trying to subvert democracy. It was a lot more sophisticated than the average American who came from small town America and went to the Capitol. Or that weird Chewbacca guy that was like, you know, sitting in, I mean, listen, I don't like that he went into the House chamber, but who has more power? All of those forces that
Starting point is 00:27:59 were colluding that you just laid out or the Chewbacca guy? I mean, give me a break. And by the way, yeah, I mean, I just. And so where are they here? Where are the hearings on, you know, the Democrat and media and FBI and DOJ attempt to overthrow Donald Trump's presidency based on a complete lie? And by the way, the FBI knew that the DOJ knew that the media had to know that. And I remember going on. I did a lot of CNN then I was in Congress. I went on all the time and I kept pushing back on this narrative that they drove every single day. And what I found fascinating, Rachel, was that they talked about Donald Trump and Russia collusion, not like a couple of times a day, every single hour of every, every hour of programming, seven days a week, they talked about Russia occlusion.
Starting point is 00:28:45 And I was amazed to go, how do you guys continue to come up with a new narrative or a new point that you could talk about it all day long? And they did. And then by the way, a couple of weeks ago, when Durham proved that through his hearing and through the testimony in the in the in yeah in his testimony in the court of assessment the court trial of of sussman one of the was it robbie mook who came out and said oh yeah we knew it was you know not legit and and by the way hillary knew too when all of that stuff came out we went through at fox to see how much that was covered by the media zero seconds given to the uncovering of the hoax so they spent four years we're talking about four minutes four days four weeks four months four years on russia collusion and then they're exposed
Starting point is 00:29:39 as they covered a hoax some of them received pulitzer prizes for their reporting in the media suing right now to because he wants those pulitzer prizes removed so he's suing i think he's is he suing the organization that puts out the people i don't know something like that i read something about it sounds like him but again that was and it comes back to this idea of most americans probably don't know that it was the hoax. They don't know that, you know, the Democrats have now admitted that this was all made up by Hillary Clinton. They still think that Donald Trump colluded with Russia. They think it's an insurrection on January 6th.
Starting point is 00:30:15 And it just goes to show you the power of the media and the narrative that they can drive and how effective Democrats can be in this fundamental transformation of America. And how effective Democrats can be in this fundamental transformation of America when they have the media on their team amplifying and reiterating their message over and over again. It's a really powerful tool, but that's why alternative media matters, being able to talk about issues that are truthful, that are outside of the leaders of big media, but also why it's so important then for Democrats to shut down free speech, to say, I can't let you talk about Russia collusion and January 6th and vaccines and masks. I can't let you get in the way with your conversation and your speech on my effort to transform America and drive a certain narrative into the American people's minds. I can't let that happen. So I have to work overtime to shut you down. Yeah, that's all they want to do. They want to suppress any kind of dissent. By the way, I think that Josh Hawley, Senator Josh Hawley, came out with a whistleblower who exposed a letter that was an internal memo because Biden tried to say,
Starting point is 00:31:25 and his administration tried to say, no, no, no. The disinformation board was about foreign. We wanted to, you know, foreign disinformation. And then the whistleblower sent the memo to Josh Hawley, who then exposed it and showed that no, they were after domestic dissent. So this is again, mark my words. Hispanics are onto this. They've seen this before.
Starting point is 00:31:46 They've seen this kind of censorship before. They've seen this kind of authoritarianism before. The corruption that you see with Hunter Biden and the Biden family and all of that, all of that is stuff we've seen with the Castros and the Chavez's and the Maduro's of the world. The Bidens are the Castros and the Maduro's and the Chavez's of the world. The Bidens are the the Castro's and the Maduro's and the Chavez's of American politics. This kind of inflation and dysfunction and economic pain. Hispanics have seen it before. That's why they came here. And they're looking at this going, what the heck is happening to America? I'll tell you what, Sean, one last thing. When I was at the border, a group of guys had just, I mean, they were wet. They just had
Starting point is 00:32:29 crossed over the Rio Grande. They were sitting on the edge. The National Guard was waiting for Border Patrol to come pick them up. And I got a chance to talk to them before Border Patrol got there. Because if Border Patrol got there, I wouldn't be allowed to talk to them for the most part. So I started talking to them. we had an interesting conversation about where they came from what they were doing they were cubans by the way most of the people that i i saw that day were cubans and it was a cuban day it was a cuban it was a cuban day and you have a heart for cubans um but leaving leaving uh leaving that kind of authoritarianism and i believe by the way that they're letting some of these guys that are dissidents leave because they want to have less troublemakers on the island. But anyway, that said, I said, well, why, why are you coming?
Starting point is 00:33:13 He said, it's really expensive where we live. And I was like, it's pretty expensive here right now, too. You know, the conditions that people are leaving in Latin America are are very rapidly becoming the conditions here. And so this is why full circle this hearing, Sean, you believe will backfire because what people what Americans care about, whether you're Hispanic, black, white, Asian, is the economy. We'll have more of this conversation after this. is the economy. We'll have more of this conversation after this. What do Ontario dairy farmers bring to the table? A million little things, but most of all, the passion and care that goes into producing the local high quality milk we all love and enjoy every day. With 3,200 dairy farming families across Ontario sharing our love for milk,
Starting point is 00:34:03 there's love in every glass. Dairy Farmers of Ontario, from our families to your table, everybody milk. Visit milk.org to learn more. You're right. You mentioned the Hispanic support. Only 26% of Hispanics support Joe Biden. And I mean, this is like a 60 percent voting block for Democrats and only 26 percent of Hispanics now support Joe Biden. And that's going to bleed into Democrat House and Senate races this fall. But what I think matters, too, is just this week, Joe Biden's approval rating has been at 42, 43 percent, really low. But just in the last week, it's now fallen down to 39 percent. So it's dropped. It's dropped again.
Starting point is 00:34:46 And so where is that historically, like say with Trump? Listen, Trump was low at 44%. But you can get down to 45, but then that's only a brief time. Then you pop up to 48, maybe 50, you're doing great. But 39% is cataclysmic. And so I believe, and so do you, I believe in having a limited tax base, right? Let's lower taxes. Let's streamline regulation. Let's give people more freedom. And if we do that, they'll innovate, they'll create, they'll start businesses, there'll be more jobs, there'll be a growing middle class. And because of that economic activity, more money actually comes into the federal coffers. I believe that, by the way, with the tax cuts with Donald Trump that we did in 2018, that's actually what happened.
Starting point is 00:35:31 We got greater growth. We got more revenue in the federal coffers. We had a booming economy. Donald Trump streamlined regulation. Our ideas actually worked for the American people. However, if we did that, Rachel, and those ideas didn't work, I wouldn't be such an ideologue that I go, I have to stick with this policy because I'm an ideologue, even though it's not working and even though it's not going to work. Because there is a percentage of people
Starting point is 00:35:58 that the kind of people that love AOC, and there's probably about 30%, 30 some percent of Americans who are like that, who actually want us to become a dependent society, a socialist society, a communist type society, dependent on the government with everything centralized from the top down. They hate small business owners. So many of the people who were at the January 6th protests were small business owners who were absolutely devastated and crushed. And by the way, if you look at all of these communist revolutions, the first group of people they have to take out are independent, small business owners,
Starting point is 00:36:36 because those are the most wily hardest to control people. And they actually demonize them and tried to make the people think that they were bad people and they were, you know, evil capitalists and all this kind of stuff. This is what they do. This is what happens. And so, listen, I think there are there is definitely a percentage of people who believe that we should become more of a socialist communist country. And I think that the Democrats have a very they have a lot of optimism for the future because I believe they go, yeah, we'll get crushed in this midterm. We may even lose the presidency. But Barack Obama has put in the administrative state. It's there. It's permanent. It's not leaving. It's not impacted by by elections. And that's why they they've basically
Starting point is 00:37:22 put in the Green New Deal through the administrative state. AOC is one. You said this the other day on television, Sean, the most powerful woman in Congress is AOC that your gas prices are AOC. She actually popularized this and made it feasible in some way in the Democrat Party ideologically. And then they they couldn't get the votes, but they did it through the through the through the administrativeologically. And then they, they couldn't get the votes, but they did it through the, through the, through the administrative state. And so there's a bunch of young kids who think just like AOC and they're coming through the university system. They're all, you know, you saw the, the, the Harvard poll that came out, like 90% of all the kids at Harvard are hardcore liberals. These are the people that are gonna be running our country. And that's the hope the Democrats have for the future. It is the hope they have for the future. And but again, to my
Starting point is 00:38:08 point, too, it's like, they wouldn't change course on oil and gas. They wouldn't change course on crime. They wouldn't change course on the border. There's so that there's so ideal, ideal logs that they won't look and say these policies aren't working. The American people hate the policy. I better change course. There's such believers that they're going to stick on this course. And again, even have the hearing tonight, but also stick with the policies through the election and agree to get crushed is actually shocking to me. And it shows there's a lack of care for the people you represent. Lack of compassion. Absolutely. And more of a care for your ideological beliefs, which that's not why you should run. You should be you should run to serve people, make their lives actually better.
Starting point is 00:38:49 And so, again, this is this this is this is intentional. It's hard. I know it's hard for us to wrap our heads around it, but it truly is intentional on their part. Because we're riffing and rolling. Can I make one last point? Sure. Can I make one last point? Sure. You look at the shooter, the guy that went to Justice, they're looted. People are beat up. That was peaceful, Sean. That was that violence is absolutely OK because Democrats agree with the movement behind that violence. Right. But if you're a Republican who protests at the capitol and you don't beat anybody up that's now white supremacy that's not racism that's now violence and worthy of a prime time show trial and that's and that's and that is the art of saying my violence is worthy
Starting point is 00:39:59 and if you're violent we are going to condemn you. And as conservatives, any violence, whether it comes from the right or the left, by, you know, having an argument on issues. It's not with guns. It's not with fists. It's not with firebom of Judge Kavanaugh's house, by the way, violating the law. We're going to condemn it because we don't believe that any protester should try to influence any judge or any jury. That's why it's against the law. And they're like, no, but I agree with the protesters and I hate Kavanaugh. So I'm going to say that law shouldn't matter. Let them go protest. This is the two tiered justice system that the Venezuelans warned us about. They were on. And so, again, I just I wanted to cover this this January 6th trial with you today, Rachel, and kind of it feeds into so many other themes that are happening in the country.
Starting point is 00:41:17 If you want to tune in tonight, you know, feel free. Just know that this is for show. This is not a but this has not been a bipartisan effort. You're not getting the truth. You're getting politics tonight given to you by ABC, NBC, CBS, and the Democrat party and an ABC executive producer. That's what you're going to get. And if you want to see the show, great. But if you want to see the good commentary on it, check out Tucker Carlson,
Starting point is 00:41:42 who's going to be doing his show and talking about their show trial as well, not covering it live, but giving commentary on the bogus proceedings that are happening tonight in the house. It might actually bring up more questions to me. Maybe after the show trial, there will be more American pressure on, you know, hey, FBI, you went after a bunch of parents for being domestic terrorists. How about finding the guys who supposedly put the pipe bombs in front of the DNC offices and the RNC offices? So these are all things that we need to find out about. But we'll just have to see how it all goes, see if it backfires on them, Sean. I have to believe that American people do not care about this. They care about the gas. They don't care about the food prices. I'm just going to American people do not care about this. They care about the gas.
Starting point is 00:42:25 They don't care about the food prices. I'm just going to make one comment as we close this out. You can like three times. You can tell that we are parents of nine and we apologize because Valentina has been hanging out all podcast. Valentina, do you want to say something? Parents who can actually focus on a conversation and ignore their ninth child. It's impressive. I know most parents would be distracted. We're like, oh yeah, that's fine. I wonder if our listeners are, they either like are distracted by it
Starting point is 00:42:51 or they're like, oh, we totally understand this kind of background noise. You mean your nanny didn't take her? We don't have to, we don't have to. We are, there's no childcare in this house. It's us, nine kids, all in. That's why I'm getting so gray. But listen, I want to thank you all for joining us.
Starting point is 00:43:10 This is a really important conversation. These are important times and this is an important part of the Democrat narrative that has to be exposed. And, you know, to sit around and talk about this, I think is incredibly important, Rachel. And thanks for, you know, sitting at, let me sit at your kitchen table or you sit at my kitchen table or it's our kitchen table. I do think that it's really important to have your, your insight on, on just how somebody who's seen how the House runs. There's been so many unprecedented things, you know, from metal detectors being placed before members of Congress could walk through the House to all these members on the Democrat side who to this day are not voting in person. These are things that never happened in America before. They're still voting from their homes by proxy vote. You know, there's so many rules and precedents and
Starting point is 00:43:52 traditions and standards that have been broken by Nancy Pelosi in order to do what she wants to do. And this is just another one of them. And so it's really great to have your perspective on it, Sean. If you hadn't been in the House, you know, we might have thought this was normal. And I think so many things over the last two years have been so not normal. And it's important for us as Americans to call out and go, we want things to return to the way they were and to tell people that this is not normal, to not normalize this new political environment that the Democrats have created for us, both in government and just sort of nationwide. We can always improve America, but stop trying to wreck it so you can rebuild it. Stop trying to fundamentally transform America. We liked it before. We just did that episode on Top Gun. We kind of want to return to the 80s. It was kind of nice back then, wasn't it? It is're gonna do coming up we talked about how this is gonna be great how tom cruise looks really good um at what 60 years old and no he doesn't look good he looks amazing okay he's amazing whatever this whatever but but you've been so impressed you've been like what is what is what is tom cruise doing is is he is he taking some kind
Starting point is 00:45:02 of hormone is he is he just working out really well? Is he eating well? Does he have a special chef, macrobiotic diet? We're going to bring in a doctor who specializes in health and staying youthful. Storative, health, anti-aging. You know, the kind of doctor that all these really rich celebrities would go to to turn back the clock. So we are going to answer the question that we can't, none of us can afford. What is Tom Cruise doing? We're going to get the advice for free. What is, well, how do we all look like Tom Cruise? How do we put a little work in?
Starting point is 00:45:34 Is this a great topic? I was so excited for this. Yeah, that's coming up. That's coming up. I believe we're gonna do it next week or the week after we're going to, we're going to get our doctor booked. So that's coming up. It'll be a great conversation. And again, we, I so enjoy sitting down and chatting with you and sometimes Valentina, when she's not so loud. Yeah. Valentina was more interested in us than Mickey Mouse. So, all right. We thank you for joining us at the kitchen table.
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