From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Why President Biden Is Afraid Of Hunter

Episode Date: June 30, 2023

More evidence continues to be uncovered in the Hunter Biden investigation as House Republicans release text messages about his foreign business dealings. Sean and Rachel weigh in on the new evidence and discuss why this is the biggest news story of the year.  Later, they share theories of why President Biden has not distanced himself from his son amid his legal troubles, discuss what further investigations could uncover, and share their thoughts on what the 2024 election could look like if President Biden drops out of the race for the White House.  Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

At New Balance, we believe if you run, you're a runner. However you choose to do it. Because when you're not worried about doing things the right way, you're free to discover your way. And that's what running's all about. Run your way at NewBalance.com slash running. Hey, everyone. Welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host for the podcast, my partner in life and my wife, Rachel Campos Duffy.

Sean, it's great to be back. And we are going to talk about the biggest scandal really in American history. And it is the Biden family criminal enterprise scandal, which has exploded thanks to some whistleblowers, something I think that the Democrat power brokers never expected to happen and hoped wouldn't happen. And now because the Republicans have the House, they're able to investigate. No, you're right. This is the biggest story in history. But also, it's going to be a huge during this election cycle. I want to take a step back because I think Democrats, Joe Biden, Hunter Biden, never thought this story would come out for two reasons. One, they never thought Hunter Biden would leave his laptop at a repair shop and then never go pick it up. Right. So that was the first window we had into the corruption of the Bidens.

we had into the corruption of the Bidens. And then the Democrats and the Bidens never thought that there'd be whistleblowers within what are usually Democrat institutions like the IRS and the FBI to come forward and go, hey, listen, things aren't happening normally in traditional procedure like we have with other cases. that Bidens are treated differently. Can I just mention on the whistleblower, Sean, I think it's important for people to understand just how hard it is to become a whistleblower. I mean, you have, there were already indications that you would be retaliated, particularly in this case. One of the whistleblowers says he knows for a fact he was, you know, passed over for promotions because they knew he was unhappy with the way this investigation was going. An entire team was taken off the investigation.

So at every corner, there were plenty of signs, if you were working at the IRS and you saw this corruption, that the powers that be were going to stop you or hurt your career. You put everything on the line when you become a whistleblower. You put your retirement on the line, your promotion, your family, your reputation. You just don't know what's going to happen. And yet, with all that pressure, several important key whistleblowers have come forward. Now, hold on. I'm going to disagree with you again. If you're a whistleblower blowing the whistle on Donald Trump, you will be celebrated.

Yes. It's really easy. It's really easy to be a whistleblower and you'll be on MSNBC and CNN. Yeah, that's fair enough. A whistleblower on the Bidens or exposing Democrat corruption, it becomes very, very challenging. And surprisingly, the media doesn't celebrate those who blow the whistle on Democrats or Bidens. So I want to walk through what happened, what's been happening, but then we're going to get to the why, which is so important.

Why is this so important? And we're going to explain what's happening and the moves that Joe Biden is making and why it's so important. So first off, we know that through the whistleblowers, and by the way, first off, we watched the Hunter Biden case. We knew that he wasn't, we knew he was making millions of dollars from overseas business deals in places like Ukraine, Russia, and China. He was on a board for Prisma making $80,000 a month, even though he didn't know the language, didn't know anything about energy. And his, I mean, everyone knew he was a crackhead around that time as well. We knew that from the laptop, right? And then we also knew that he had purchased a gun.

And at the same time, he was doing crack. And the form that you fill out when you purchase a gun, you state that I'm not, you know, a drug addict. And we knew from the laptop that he actually was a drug addict. So if he got a gun, we knew he had lied on the form. So that information was out there because of Hunter Biden leaving the laptop at the repair shop. And everyone was like, well, where are the charges? Why isn't the FBI, the DOJ, and the IRS investigating Hunter Biden? Nothing seemed to happen on that investigation. It had been going on

for five years, this investigation into Hunter Biden, and nothing came of it. And by the way, I was a prosecutor. These are the easiest cases to investigate. Financial cases. Yes. Hunter Biden made this much money. The Hunter thought he was pretty sneaky and Joe was sneaky and hiding through shell companies, the flow of money. But for the IRS and the FBI, it's really easy to track that. And money going to the Joe Biden's grandkids. I mean, it was so stupid, right? It was obvious. Our six-year-olds thinking they're being sneaky, you know, and deceiving us. And it's like, listen, I'm sorry, I see what you're doing. Yeah. That was the same thing here. So

that was an easy case. And then they had Hunter Biden dead to rights on the gun charge, where it's basically, did you buy a gun? Did you, were you doing drugs? And therefore, did you lie in the form? Right. So these are all- He even got away with that. So we all suspected, just like we suspected we were being censored on social media platforms as conservatives. We're like, this doesn't seem right. We're censored and they're not. And then when the Twitter files came out, we actually like- Like Elon Musk took over, yeah. Of course we're being censored, right?

So the whistleblower comes out and says, here's the deal. This is the IRS whistleblower, Shapley, who says his team that was investigating Hunter Biden, they wanted felony charges and they've been pushing for felony charges for years, going back to the money that Hunter Biden made on the board of Burisma. And they were stonewalled, they were stopped, and eventually the Department of Justice- Was that because he didn't pay taxes on it? Is that why? He didn't pay taxes, yes. He was getting $80,000 a month that we know of, right?

Right. And then big payouts from his Chinese business partners. And again, just think with us, he's making millions of dollars a year. Most people will pay at that income level, they'll be paying 45 to 50% taxes on that income. Hunter Biden didn't pay any taxes because of a little shell operation he was running. By the way, one of the easiest cheats and knowable cheats that the IRS looks for is if I make money and I have them pay you, Rachel, and then I have you make a loan to me that I never have to pay back. Right.

And so I have it alone. That's not income. It's a loan to me. It's not income to me. And you write it off as an expense. Right. And he was doing this with his family members. And he was doing that as well.

So Shapley comes out and says, they stopped us. And the investigation was taken from us, right, by the Department of Justice. And I've had conversations at the IRS with the U.S. attorney in Delaware who was handling the case, whose name is Weiss. So U.S. Attorney Weiss said, I don't have any charging power in this case. I can't charge it. Someone else is making the decisions. I'm not the decision maker. The problem with that is...

Did he say who was that person? No, he didn't. And the problem is, though, that Merrick Garland, who is the U.S. attorney, has testified... Merrick Garland, who's the head of the DOJ. Department of Justice. Yeah, I'm sorry. The Department of Justice has come out and said, listen, Weiss has all the power. He can make every charging decision he wants. So Weiss says, I don't have the power. Mayor Groen says, I don't have the power.

He has the power. So somebody somewhere along the line. Someone's lying. Someone's lying. And also Weiss indicated that he wanted to be a special counsel, special prosecutor, to get some distance between him and Merrick Garland and the Biden so he could, without being impeded, do this investigation. He would have complete control. They wouldn't give him that. That complete control. The DOJ would not. And then he wanted, Weiss allegedly wanted to bring charges in other jurisdictions, one in D.C. and one out in California. And those US attorneys said, no, we're not going to bring those charges. Well, you can't do it here.

You can't. You have to do it in Delaware. Yes. And so one last thing, Shapley also said that the Department of Justice was slow walking this investigation. And if you slow walk it, there's a statute of limitations. There's only a certain length of time from the commission of a crime. You only have so much time to charge it. And the statute of limitations is different for all kinds of crimes. Here it was five years. So in the money that was made from Burisma, they slow walk that investigation and ran the statute of limitations out. So now you can't charge him on the failure to pay taxes on Burisma. So not only that, when the investigators said, okay, let's look at the big guy. Remember,

the laptop had all these emails that said save 10% for the big guy. And the big guy was mentioned in other places. And they said, let's follow down that part of the investigation. They were told, no, you're only allowed to look at Hunter. You can't go after anything that implies the big guy. So that was really weird. And then there was this this audio tape that sounded like it came out of a mafia movie, you know, The Godfather, where Hunter Biden is talking to Zhao, the head of a Chinese energy company with huge ties to the Communist Chinese Party, which, by the way, this was this was this was a WhatsApp message. A WhatsApp message. I'm sorry. We have it in writing. Yes. You have this WhatsApp message. And I'm sorry about that. So remember, by the way, they're doing energy deals with the Chinese as they're shut. And now as president, they're shutting down American energy, which is ironic in and of

itself. But he's on this message. And let me see if I can pull this up. Sean, do you have it right here? He says, I'm sitting here with my father and we would like to understand why the commitment made has not been fulfilled. Tell the director that I would like to resolve this now before it gets out of hand. And I mean tonight. And now means tonight. And Z, if I get a call

or a text from anyone involved in this other than you, Zhang, or the chairman, I will make certain that between the man sitting next to me and every person he knows and my ability to forever hold a grudge that you will regret not following my directions. I am sitting here waiting for the call with my father. That is what he said. So, by the way, a few weeks later, five million dollars pops up in Hunter Biden's accounts and another five million, I believe, in Joe's account. But here's what's interesting. The people doing the investigation said, OK, well, let's you know, he says his dad's there. He's a crackhead. Maybe he's lying and threatening something that's not true. So the people on the investigation, well, that's

easy. We through GPS, we can find out if Joe Biden was literally in that room. Meaning you can geofence his phone, Joe Biden's phone and go with CBS next to his son or not. And they were told, no, you're not allowed to follow that line of investigation. Now, subsequently, there are photos that have appeared that they found on the laptop everyone has now. So there are photos that were taken that weekend with Joe and Hunter. But the idea that he was sitting in the room right there, we don't know because the investigators were never allowed to do that. At every turn that you could get Joe Biden, wrap Joe Biden into this scandal, they were stopped. And the thing is, you know, this really

Hunter Biden is very interesting with the baby mamas and the sex and the porn and the, you know, drugs and everything going on. But the real story is, is our current president compromised? Did, you know, Antony Blinken, who got the 50 signatures from the from the Intel Intel officers, did those people interfere with an election because they knew that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden were involved in a scam that would compromise him should he become president? We'll have more of this conversation after this. At New Balance, we believe if you run, you're a runner, however you choose to do it. Because when you're not worried about doing things the right way,

you're free to discover your way. And that's what running's all about. Run your way at newbalance.com slash running. Now we're going to unpack this and why it's so important yes so the first question becomes do we have a u.s president that has been corrupted right and the problem here is joe biden if his allegations are correct was selling influence at the white house when he was the vice president under Barack Obama. And that's absolutely illegal. You cannot do that. When you work for the American people, you can't work for yourself and your family's income because they're different interests, right? Your family making money from

China is not necessarily in the interest of the American people. And so it appears through the evidence we have in the laptop and what the whistleblowers are telling us that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden were both making money through this criminal enterprise by Hunter Biden going to foreign countries and for millions of dollars selling access to his father, the vice president. Completely illegal. So that's a massive scandal because Joe Biden, now as the president, can't do what's in the best interest of the American people if it's going to offend some of the countries or businesses that paid him off when he was the vice president. Because they'll say, oh, now, Mr. President, we're going to expose that you took money from us in the tune of millions of dollars. If you don't want us to tell the American people what you did, then you better do what I want you to do.

There's two great examples of that. So, by the way, China and Ukraine are not the only countries. There are other countries that they were taking. Romania, I mean, Russia. I mean, they had a whole scheme here. But let's just take two of them. So China, a million Americans died of COVID. Businesses and lives were just disrupted, destroyed. Children, mental health. I mean, old people and the destruction from COVID, we don't need to go over. We know how bad it was. But a million Americans died. And Joe Biden and Anthony Fauci, and there are other reasons, right? Anthony Fauci was funding gain of function research illegally. And so there's that that they have to cover up. But also there have been moments where

we could hold China accountable, and we haven't. Joe Biden, instead of, you know, being incensed about what happened with COVID with the Chinese, has been an enabler of the lies told by the Chinese that somehow it came from a wet market. And he and it, you know, let's just move forward. And let's just forget about what happened with COVID, even though a million people died. That's just one example. You can also look at the in the spy balloon. The that was, you know, take intelligence over the United States, how that happened, why it wasn't shot down, why it was allowed to go across the country, why we have spy now spying in Cuba on America, why that was allowed to happen. So the Chinese want to set up a base in Cuba, which is going to be a spy base. That's one issue. Also, the Chinese continue to steal secrets, technology from American companies. That's right.

And Joe Biden doesn't seem to do anything about it. American companies, many of them can't do business in China, all the while Joe Biden has opened up America to Chinese businesses. They're buying our farmland next to our military sites. We can't buy any farmland, especially next to military sites in China. But look at Ukraine though, Sean. Think about the amount of money that is going to Ukraine. Right now, Ukraine is the third large, the country with the third largest military expenditure. There has been no transparency. A lot of people believe this is a big money laundering scheme, that Zelensky is getting rich. Nobody can track where the money's at. But just think they paid off our president and his family. So he just signs off on

more money, more money to Ukraine. So you're right. So that's the Joe Biden's side of the story, right? Making money because Hunter, on Joe's behalf, was selling influence to Joe. Easy to look at the money trail. For sure. A forensic audit would show that. So here's the second part of the problem. One, you have a corrupt president, but we have a remarkable government. The ability, if someone is corrupt or if someone violates the law,

we have systems in place to address that in this country, right? Where we would prosecute them, we would remove them from office. And it's happened in the past. Not at this level, but it happens. We remove members of Congress, we remove senators, we remove judges. We remove Nixon. Nixon was gone.

The bigger part of this scandal is now you have a government who knows of this corruption, knows about the money that Joe Biden made illegally from selling access to the vice presidency. They know it. They have the evidence of it. And they refuse to investigate it.

They refuse to expose it. And prosecute it. And prosecute it. And so now it's not just Joe Biden. Now it's a whole government backing, propping Joe Biden up, not only with the money that he made, the fact that Joe Biden and Hunter Biden don't have to pay taxes on the millions of dollars that were made. And that's when you look at your country and go, we can't operate like this. This is truly, I don't want to be a Democrat here, but this is truly a threat to democracy. Democracy doesn't work unless you trust your government,

unless you have faith in the institutions that you pay taxes to fund. Equal justice under the law, it just does not exist. You know, Sean, one of the interesting things is that Joe Biden has been, you know, he's had Hunter tied at his side. So usually when you have a scandal like this, you try and separate yourself, at least visually, in the eyes of the press and the country from the problem, right? They've always been trying to say this is a Hunter Biden problem, not a Joe Biden problem. And yet, Hunter, in the middle of this giant development in this story, the same week that this, you know, WhatsApp message comes out, you have Hunter Biden going to a state dinner with Joe Biden. With the Indian Prime Minister Modi. Modi. You have a Hunter

Biden traveling back and forth from the White House to their beach house that was, you know, funded by by Hunter Biden. And so people will go to David together. So they went to Camp David together. So people go, well, he's, you know, conservatives will say, well, he's flaunting this. He's flaunting this. They know that nothing will happen. They don't care. This is, it's interesting because you and I had a discussion about that. Let's first go to Anna Navarro, who says this scandal is really about

a father's love for his son. Listen to this. The Hunter Biden story, the scandal, the this, the that, it's also the story of a father's love. And Joe Biden has never and will never give up on his son, Hunter, and will never treat him lesser than. And so he is a father first. Take it or leave it. That's who he is. That is part of his heart. There was 380 people at this dinner. It's not like Hunter was sitting at Merrick Garland's lap.

It was a bunch of people. And I think part of the reason that Hunter Biden has been able to get out of addiction is because Joe Biden embraced him entirely the entire time. When he was vice president, when he was candidate, when he was out of office, and now as president. So this is a love story of a family, a family love story. Sean, when I told you that, I said to you, it's kind of weird that they would take Hunter Biden to the state dinner in the middle of this. Why would they do this? What did you say? So I'm of the opinion that Joe understands that Hunter is a huge threat to the enterprise. Liability.

He's a liability. And we already know that Hunter feels like I'm earning all this money. I'm working so hard and my dad is taking money from me. He feels a little bit jilted. That's not just a thought you had, Sean. This is actually in the email. Hunter Biden. Actually, I want to make sure that people understand this. In the Hunter Biden laptop, there were all these emails of Hunter saying he was complaining half of my salary is going to pay, you know, my dad's bills. That's what he said. He described payments in a 2010 email where Joe was earning $225,000 a year as president. He had made over, you know, $100,000 a year for decades prior as a senator and author.

And yet they had all this money, and it was coming from Hunter, and Hunter expressed frustration in emails to his daughters and so forth, like, I don't take half, you know, my dad takes half my money. We know he's paying bills for Hunter Biden. Sean, do you pay bills for your dad? No, I don't. I don't pay bills for my dad. There was something fishy going on, and Hunter Biden's laptop being even lost. I remember I interviewed Victor Davis Hanson on this, and Victor Davis Hanson thought this was a passive-aggressive move. Hunter is a liability.

Hunter is very angry that he's had to be the moneybags in the family. Beau gets to be the hero. Joe Biden gets to be the president. And he is the guy that's actually funding this, but he's the kind of the dirty guy. He's really resentful of that. And that's why I think what you said was so smart. So you have a son who is volatile and he's a drug addict and he's angry at his dad for the reasons he drugged to be the president. Bo was the superstar, and he's just the moneybags. He doesn't like his position in the family. And so if you're Joe Biden, you understand the risk, that you better

treat this liability hunter really, really well. If you show any exclusion, any distancing from him, you're at risk that he might bring the whole presidency down. Yes. And so that risk is far greater than the risk of conservatives criticizing you for once he's cut this beautiful plea deal that's two misdemeanors as opposed to felonies, which they should have been for tax evasion, and that he's going to get off scot-free on the gun charge. A beautiful plea deal. During that plea deal that you don't

separate yourself from your criminal son, that risk and criticism is far less than the risk of Hunter Biden exposing the whole Biden criminal enterprise. And that's what's happening here. This isn't love as Anna Navarro says. It's a love story for his son. He's actually afraid of Hunter. Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies. He's actually afraid of Hunter. Keep your friends close. Keep your enemies closer. He's afraid of Hunter. He sees that this liability has to be kept really close. He has to love him to keep him in the camp.

And so that's what's happening here. To say that Joe Biden is a father first, give me a break. is a father first, give me a break. If your son is doing prostitutes and Hunter Biden's in a sex club paying almost $100,000 a year to be a member of a sex club, he's so bad he gets kicked out of the sex club. That's how bad this dude is. I mean, who gets kicked out? Well, first of all, who joins a sex club? But then who gets kicked out of the sex club? That's how bad this dude is. I mean, who gets kicked out? Well, first of all, who joins a sex club? But then who gets kicked out of the sex club? That's how bad you are. And he was writing off

prostitutes on his taxes. There's all kinds of stuff. Just so you know that this isn't just this love story. And speaking to how volatile, this is a message that Hunter Biden wrote about his mom to his uncle.

He said, I told her, I said, Mom, you're an effing, this is Hunter. Jill, Dr. Jill. Dr. Jill, you're an effing moron, a vindictive moron. And you do know that the drunkest I've ever been is still smarter than you could ever even comprehend. And you're a grammar teacher that wouldn't survive one class in an Ivy graduate program. So go F yourself, Jill. Let's all agree that I don't like you any more

than you like me. So these are text messages that came out in the Hunter Biden laptop and show that things are not so hunky dory inside of this criminal enterprise, that there are lots of problems. And yes, Joe Biden is very smart to bring him along, make sure that Hunter Biden doesn't feel excluded, because if he does, this is the kind of crazy, vindictive stuff that he's going to throw at them and ahead of a very important election um boy that that spells a lot of trouble so you there was a time that people cared more about their country than a part and today you see um the media i mean just you we played anna navarro anna navarro's clip is outrageous that she's trying to smooth this corruption scandal into the love of a father

for a son. So insane. But this is the take of all of the media. They're trying to, one, not ask questions. And if there are questions, they try to put a love story bow on it. So there's that. Then you have the FBI, the DOJ, and IRS leadership saying we can't let anybody pull any strings here, because if anyone pulls a string, the whole thing unravels and you get very quickly from Hunter Biden to Joe Biden, which is why we need to keep really strict guardrails around the investigation and keep it really tight. You know, a couple of year time frame that Hunter Biden didn't pay taxes and don't go anywhere else, because if you do, it's going to be so clear for anyone who does this for a living in the IRS, the FBI or the DOJ to see Joe Biden is so easily connected into the criminal enterprise and the leadership can't allow that to happen. So they shut it down.

And so I look at this and go, there is corruption everywhere. And how do you have faith in your system? How do you have faith in your government if there isn't equal justice under the law? And then the question becomes, how do you address this? Thank God the Republicans won the House. But James Comer's committee is not made to investigate crimes. They don't have, they make laws. They're not investigators. They're legislators.

So they can get some investigators on their team to pull this string and get whistleblowers to come out. But that's not what the committee was made for. They're trying to use the committee to expose what the Department of Justice and the FBI and the IRS are trying to hide. They're going to try to expose it, what Joe Biden is trying to hide, and they may. But I'm telling you what, Kevin McCarthy needs to give them millions of more dollars and they need to hire, you know, a lot more really well qualified investigators to unpack and unwind what's really happened here. Because I think as the American people, we have a right to know. We'll have more of this conversation after this. Visa and OpenTable are dishing up something new.

Get access to primetime dining reservations by adding your Visa Infinite Privilege card to your OpenTable account. From there, you'll unlock first-come, first-served spots at select top restaurants when booking through OpenTable. Learn more at OpenTable.ca forward slash Visa Dining. Of course, we have millions of dollars going to Ukraine, hundreds of millions of dollars going to Ukraine. And for all we know, Zelensky is extorting that money because he does know what's going on. Donald Trump over a call that he made saying asking Zelensky to look into the Hunter Biden, Joe Biden family criminal enterprise. And he was impeached for it by a leaked phone call from a whistleblower that the press does love named Alexander Vindman, who now we know has been soliciting to become the middleman in weapons sales. So, I mean, this thing stinks to high heaven. That's right. Alexander Zbinderman is on record trying to become the middleman between the defense companies and the Ukraine government. As you remember, he was famously asked by, you know, and bragged about the fact that, you know, he was asked to become defense minister

of Ukraine. That's how strong his advocacy was for funding the Ukraine war. And he was so mad at Donald Trump for saying, hey, you need to tell us a little bit more about this corruption scandal with the Bidens if you're, you know, and we'll talk about the weapons. And that became the reason for the impeachment. Let me just go back for a second, Sean, to the situation with Anna Navarro saying that this is the story of a father's love. A father who loves his child does not make him the point man in a criminal enterprise to enrich the family. is wrong, what they did. You do not say, I mean, if he loved, and that's why Hunter could turn on him at any second. If this thing goes sour, if they are not able to stop the Republicans, as you described, Sean, from getting more money to further this investigation, to continue finding more and more pieces of this puzzle, Hunter will turn on his father because I believe in the end, just as Victor Davis Hanson

said, I think Hunter Biden is really angry at his dad for putting him in this position. That's not to say that he doesn't have responsibility. Clearly a bad dude. He slept with his own brother's widow. Crazy crap, right, going on in this family. If you love your son, you might go, son, I don't approve. Not a good idea that your dead brother, Beau, you probably shouldn't sleep with this wife. Yeah. You probably shouldn't start a relationship with the widow's wife. That's when it's a bad look. But morally, that's wrong.

It's wrong. And the kids found out. I mean, it was horrible. They did not. They actually endorsed the relationship. They said, we love them and we embrace this relationship. And at the same time, a good father also tells his son, hey, listen, that little girl, Navy, that little child, grandchild of ours, you need to take responsibility. The one he had out of wedlock with the stripper. Yes. You need to take responsibility for that child. And by the way, how wrong of you to take away her family name?

So you need to take responsibility for that child. And by the way, how wrong of you to take away her family name? That's right. So I'm going to go back to another point, Rachel. So if you're a Democrat, you look at all of the wards of Joe Biden. One, you see everyone starting to expose the financial corruption relationship between he and Hunter. And then you look at the physical and mental failings of Joe Biden. And then you look at who the vice president is and the president could be if something happens to Joe Biden, Kamala Harris. All of this is a disaster. If you're a good Democrat who loves

your party, you look at Joe Biden and would say, we can't have this guy on the top of the ticket. We need to cut bait. We need to go with in a different direction. And it would be easy then to say, let's let this corruption story run. Let's get it out there. Joe Biden's going to go down and then we can let, you know, a new, a new guy rise up like Gavin Newsom. I don't think I honestly don't think that the Democrats are letting the story get out. I think they're doing everything they can to contain it, even if they want to get rid of Joe Biden at this point, which they probably do. I don't think that they are. I think this has been a series of bad moves by Hunter because he is a crackhead and he's very he's very volatile, as you described him perfectly.

And I don't think they wanted any of this to come out. It has come out again with with the Democrats trying everything they can to put the lid on it. But we are reaching the point where they're going to have to pick somebody else. And I think and I think the person lining up right now, the most visual one is Gavin Newsom. I've always thought that, you know, the wild card is Michelle Obama. That could happen if they become very desperate. But I would say that right now, the one just kind of stepping forward and starting to measure the drapes is Gavin Newsom. Yeah, but that's not my point. What's your point? Let me finish my point. Okay. Which is, any good Democrat would say, Joe's got to go. There's way too much of a yard sale mess here.

But they understand that they can win with Joe Biden, which begs the question. Ah, I see what you're saying. What do they know about elections? About elections that we do not know. Because most Democrats would go, you can't win with this guy. Of course. But they're like, no, no, we're good. We're fine.

They do seem pretty confident. I agree. Yeah, he can't talk. Yes, he can't walk. Yes, he's, you know, he's corrupt. But we can still win with Joe Biden. And that begs the question, what the hell do they know that we don't know about elections? What do they have in store?

What have they planned? What apparatus do they have in place that they can feel so confident that Joe Biden can win? And that's what concerns me. And by the way, if you can stop investigations at the FBI and you can, you know, curtail prosecutions at the Department of Justice, that you can protect someone from not paying millions of dollars in taxes at the IRS, why can't you have an impact and influence on American elections? If you can do those things, you for sure can impact an election and the results of an election. I know, you're 100% right. That's what concerns me as we get back to the threat to democracy,

all of this is threatening the very essence of who we are as a people. Sean, can I tell you one of the things that if I was a Democrat, let's put the election thing aside, which I think is hard to put aside because I think it's a huge piece of this puzzle. And I think you are 100 percent right to bring that up, that their confidence indicates that there's something else that they know. But let's put that aside for a second. So you've got Joe Biden. You think you can run the course with him. But the longer that you go on with Joe Biden and don't make an opening for somebody like Gavin Newsom or even Michelle Obama to jump in, you have RFK Jr. growing in power. Yeah.

So he has gone from, you know, being considered, you know, impossible to win, wacky, anti-vaxxer. But the more he talks and the more platforms that he's been able to speak on, you know, podcasts have become so important in this election. And there have been brave podcasters such as Joe Rogan, but many others who have, you know, opened their microphones to JFK Jr. There's a lot of things I don't agree with him on. But when you listen to him, you can't you have to admit he he understands politics. He's intelligent. He's courageous. He's willing to take on powerful forces, forces that liberal, classic liberals used to be concerned about, like big pharma and big food and corporations. So this is becoming an increasing threat.

um so this is becoming an increasing threat um i will say on joe rogan's show jfk jr actually said i do look out for my personal safety um he's somebody who's seen his uncle is his his own father assassinated and understands that he is ruffling a lot of feathers um he's very concerned about the war in ukraine thinks we should wind it down and get a peace accord, which is the same position that Donald Trump has. And just the other day he was asked in an interview, Sean, you know, what do you make of the fact that Donald Trump thinks you're a pretty good guy, like likes you? And normally Democrats run away from that sort of like, I don't like Donald. And normally Democrats run away from that sort of like, I don't like Donald. And he said, I'm proud of the fact that Donald Trump likes me because I want to be a candidate who can bring both sides with, but RFK Jr. is a Democrat. Joe Biden used to be a Democrat, and now he's a leftist Marxist. That's right. He's a Marxist.

So they have a choice between a Marxist Joe Biden and a traditional Democrat in RFK. And you can see where the heart of the media and business and the government, where they're at, they're Marxists. They're with Joe Biden. They're globalist Marxists. It's a new form of Marxism. And they're not with the traditional Democrat, which is RFK. And so it's going to be interesting to watch this play out because I think there's still a lot of Democrats who have, I'm a Democrat in my heart, not a Marxist in my heart. I know a lot of people who say, I'm a Kennedy Democrat, right? A lot of people say that. Your parents would say they're Kennedy Democrat.

Listen, then they'd be far closer to the Republican Party if that was true. I think they're part of the Bernie Sanders Party, not very. I would say your dad is probably more Kennedy Democrat, but who knows? I can't unpack my I don't understand their politics. But anyway, so this is important. It's going to be interesting to watch this all play out. It's fascinating. This is a historic time because we're going into uncharted territory in the corruption between the deep state and a sitting president and the media, the complete cover-up. And hopefully,

we can expose it. And exposing it, bringing sunlight into the room is the only path forward, the only salvation for this democracy. And if it doesn't happen, if this is not exposed, we have some dark, dark days ahead. Yeah, I don't want to end on your dark, dark days ahead. I'm sorry. Listen, I'm an optimist. I think the light's going to shine. I do think we're going to expose it. I think Joe Biden is going to go down as the worst president and the most corrupt president in the history of the country. And I think those who supported him and propped him up are going to live in shame in history. History is going to shame those. I agree. I just really hope we can pull the curtain back and find out. Yeah, I suspect I know who they are. They're, you know, Valerie Jarrett, Susan Rice, Barack Obama, all those, all the usual suspects.

Yeah. But they have led our country on a very bad path. Hopefully, you know, I've had a lot, you know, and on a positive, hopeful note, Sean, and that is I'm very proud of the Republican majority in the House. proud of the Republican majority in the House. They said that they were going to make getting to the bottom of this scandal important. They said they weren't going to go down rabbit holes that meant nothing. They were going to actually bring out things that really matter. And I think that this is not partisan, what they're bringing out. What they're bringing up are things that actually impact all of us, because there are policies now in Russia and China and Ukraine that are being deeply influenced by the Biden criminal enterprise money that was taken. And I think that is the bottom line. So good on Representative Comer. So I'm going to also leave a challenge and a happy note here. We're coming into the 4th of July weekend. It's our independence.

It's our freedom. And if you look at the sacrifice that were made by our forefathers, they gave their blood. They gave their treasure. They gave everything for this idea of freedom and democracy. And it's a gift that they passed on to their kids and their grandkids. And then those kids and grandkids passed it on to the next generation, right? It's a gift that has continued to give for almost 250 years. And the question is,

are we going to defend that gift that was given to us 200 and almost 50 years ago? What are we willing to sacrifice? If they're willing to give their lives, all of their money, their farms, their animals were destroyed. I mean, this was serious stuff. Are we willing to do a little bit to stand up and lend our voice at a crisis point in our democracy? Are we so weak that they were willing to sacrifice all of that? And we can't sacrifice a few comments here and there for common sense and clarity on what's happening in our country? That's why this week, I think the patriots that I want to celebrate are those whistleblowers, the whistleblowers in the FBI who came forward and talked about how Catholics were on domestic terrorist lists

and other people and the way they were going after people. And also those at the IRS. These are people who have risked it all in order to expose and bring transparency so that hopefully we can rein back this deep state. Reign it in. Reign back all the bad stuff that's happening so we can have a government by and for the people again. Right now, it's being run by a deep state, by the elites,

and by people with a lot of special interests and money-making involved. And hopefully, those whistleblowers will not have risked their livelihood in vain, that we will protect them, and that we will take the lead from what they have exposed. I love that. Well done. Well done. They're patriots. They are patriots. Vindman, not so much.

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