From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Why Protecting America's Children Should Be Top Priority

Episode Date: June 9, 2023

What factors are going into the declining birth rates across the United States? Sean and Rachel explore the root causes, a recent study that suggests liberal policies drive birthrates down, and share their solutions.  Later, they break down the Wall Street Journal report that Instagram's algorithms were connecting pedophile networks, and how the government could step in to prevent pornography from reaching children. Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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It's great to be here, even though we're not at our kitchen table technically. We're at the Fox Studios today because I had outnumbered. That's right. You're going to your show. And I'm kind of a little peeved because I was looking forward to lunch with you after this podcast. And now you're telling me you have the bottom line. Meeting. Meeting. Meeting.

The problem is this podcast took a little longer to put together, so we were running in late, which means that's run into our lunchtime. Yeah. Well, maybe you can talk to the producers at The Powers That Be and say, my wife is in the building, and I have to go to lunch with her, and that's more important than me weighing in on the bottom line. How do you think that will go over? Like a lead balloon.

I have a lot of women in my life that control it and demand my time. Yeah, they are female producers. Maybe they'll understand. Let's at least give it a try. We could try. All right. Well, we want to talk about this Wall Street Journal. They ran a story back on May 26, not very long ago from today. And it showed that the U.S. birth rate is down sharply from about 15 years. And they looked at all of the different factors. There are some interesting things, too, by the way. They compared, you know, people think people aren't having babies because of money. And that's really not the factor.

But they did find these three things that have an association with it. So if you live in a place with a lower cost of living, the factor, but they did find these three things that have an association with it. So if you live in a place with a lower cost of living, so this is an economic factor, you will more likely have a higher birth rate. Now, that doesn't mean you have more government programs. It just means it's cheaper to live there, which tends to be red state. So you're going to have more kids in that situation. Then also, if you live in a community or a town that has a high level of attendance to church, you're going to have a higher birth rate. If you live in a state that voted for Joe Biden, low birth rate. What does that tell you?

This is fascinating. This goes to the heart of, I think, happiness. We talked on previous podcasts why liberal women are the most unhappy people ever because they don't have kids. Those are the studies, not us. I'm not saying that. You may have met some of those unhappy liberal ladies. They're probably the ones trying to tell you to wear a mask in the store, right? Or they had a pink hat out protesting Donald Trump. Those were the ones. Those were really unhappy ladies.

But this has a lot of impacts, right? So not just about happiness. I'm having a little fun with that, but it's not fun. Being unhappy is no fun for anyone. But if you look at conservative states, you mentioned this, Rachel, the cost of living is lower, right? So if you have a lower tax rate for your state, like Florida has no tax, income tax, Texas has no income tax, but also you produce things in that state, it's actually cheaper, right? But overall, the birth rate's going down. And if you look at economics and economics play a factor in whether people decide to have a child or not, inflation, which has made everything more expensive, which means you have less money in your pocket to pay

for the things that you need, it makes you less likely to jump in and want to have kids. So I think that's, I mean, all of this ties together uniquely. But by the way, if you don't have kids, then you don't have a next generation of workers who are going to pay into Social Security, which then are going to pay the benefits of the current retirees. So your social, the social safety net system that you have in the country actually starts to fail because people aren't having kids in America. I think it's also unique. You mentioned churches. It's true. I mean, when you go to church, you're called to something higher.

There's a different purpose in life. You're also called to, what is it, multiply? Yes. Be fruitful and multiply. I've done that. Be fruitful and multiply. Yes, and multiply. I've done that. Be fruitful and multiply. Yes, you have. I have done that. But I think if there's a higher calling and you're not all about yourself, you're not self-centered, you're supposed to be a giver,

well, having kids is giving, right? It's great, it's fun, it's awesome, but it takes a lot of time. It takes a lot of work. You're not the center of your life anymore. You do have to give of yourself. That's right. Yeah, you can't be the center of your life when you have a ton of time. It takes a lot of work. You're not the center of your life anymore. You do have to give of yourself. That's right. Yeah, you can't be the center of your life when you have a ton of kids, for sure.

You have to serve your family. There goes my water bottle. That was awesome. I heard that fall. Sorry about that, producers. Okay, so interesting. So let me just say this. So they say having a ton of government programs for child care and all this doesn't impact the rate.

So it doesn't matter how you do that. All you need to do is have an environment where taxes are low, cost of living is low, and people will naturally be fruitful and multiply. The liberal answer to the birth rate problem that you discussed, Sean, in terms of how do we pay for Medicare and Social Security for this aging population? We have the baby boomers are now going into old age, and someone has to pay for all of the health care needs. They're living longer.

The liberal answer is just import new people. New labor. New labor and cheap labor. Open the border up. Open the border up. Donald Trump has suggested in the next election he wants a baby bonus. So everyone who has a kid, I mean, where was Donald Trump has suggested in the next election he wants a baby bonus. So everyone who has a kid, I mean, where was Donald Trump when we were having all of our babies? I want reparations for all the babies we had before if Donald Trump passes this. Yeah, but he's not the only one.

There are others. And, of course, many people say he got his idea from Hungary where President Orban has said, I don't want to do all the importation of immigrants from the Middle East, from Africa. We want to just promote families having children and creating that sort of lifestyle here. So that is sort of where some of that's going from. Now, the left will say Donald Trump is a racist, just like they say Viktor Orban is a racist, because he wants to make it easier for people to have family, to form families and to provide for them.

Obviously, that's ludicrous. We're talking to the anti-family, anti-child party here, the liberals, the Democrats, and that's what they're about. On the finance side, we didn't have any money. We were pretty poor and had one baby.

When we got married and had kids, we actually qualified for welfare. We didn't take it, but we qualified. I said, over my damn body, am I going to take a handout? And I think as the second one came, it was pretty rough as well. I mean, so we didn't wait till we're like,

I got a fat bank account, our careers are all off, let's have kids. It's like, no, we got married, we had kids, and we figured it out. And it turned out okay. But so just I want to make two points. So the highest percentage of population of women who are having babies are in North Dakota. And maybe—

So interesting. Well, so I don't know what it is. Maybe they go to church more in North Dakota. But I will note that— I know it's called long winter. It's cold, long winters in North Dakota. Long I will note that- I know it's called Long Winter. It's Cold Long Winters in North Dakota. Long Cold Winters. All of our neighbors, if you time when my births were, it's right. Yeah. You can tell what we were doing in the cold, cold, cold Wisconsin.

TMI. Too much information. Too much information. Another thing on this is, we talked about what's happening with children. And to indoctrinate children, you have to get into the schools, right? But if you break it down and left children to the morals and the values of their own families, and if it's conservatives in conservative states that are in red states that are having children, well, then you're going to have a boom of young Republican voters. Yeah, or conservative voters.

Or conservative voters. If the liberals don't get to them in the system. And liberals who don't have kids will have a shrinking future. They'll have lots of fur babies. That's right. And that's why they have perfected getting conservative kids. Yeah. We're going to get them into the school system and we're going to have years of indoctrination to get those kids to be radical liberal voters in the future.

There's another factor, I think think depressing the birth rate um among young people and so many of them are liberal and that is the climate change agenda i mean actually it's not just that they they believe you're actually more virtuous if you don't have kids right you're saving the planet i'm an environmental terrorist you're an environmental terrorist we had nine kids um so they're and and actually they. And actually, we've been seeing these rising rates of mental illness and anxiety among young people. And part of it is from the climate fear that they have. a time when kids could graduate from high school, enter into their freshman year, and there was sort of this, you know, overall general amount of information that they all had. And he said something happened somewhere in the 90s and the 80s, where basically they all graduated. And the only thing you could count on that they absolutely knew for certain was climate change was real,

and we're all going to die from it if we don't do something about this existential threat. Smoking was bad, but apparently not marijuana. No, marijuana's fine. Tobacco's bad, marijuana good. I can't remember what the other one was. It was like three different things. They were all like meaningless to, you know, not really purporting well for our future. On our podcast, am I able to go way off base and just tell you what I thought that popped into my head? Yeah, you totally can do that. That's why we have podcasts and not producers in our ears telling us to rap after. You talked about terrorists, environmental terrorists.

And I don't know why this popped into my head. I'm afraid now you're going to say. In my hometown at Hayward, in my old congressional district, there's a lot of tribes. And I went into the gas station. I was getting gas in the car right near the reservation. And I saw this guy with a shirt on, and it was a picture of an old picture of a native warrior on the front, big picture. Then it said, fighting terrorism since 1776.

Now, I completely disagree with the sentiment, but it's a really well-played you know, anyway. You thought Todd Wood terrorist, and I couldn't help but think of that shirt that I saw in the grocery store. No, listen, I have literally been called a terrorist online because of the amount of kids. And there is an anti-natal movement.

There is this idea that, again, I mean, we're seeing the smoke from the fires coming in Canada. I mean, Sean, this is something you, you know, they're blaming it on climate change. You know very well that this is about lack of forest management. But really, liberals want to shut our forests off from humans, from industry, people who can actually manage it because humans bad and nature good, I guess. Yeah, so if you look at kind of what's happening, we were talking about that about this morning.

So liberals want to kill cows because cows have gas and that gas affects the environment. So in Ireland, they're going to kill 200 because cows have gas and that gas affects the environment. So in Ireland, they're going to kill 200,000 cows. I mean, when you told me the story, I thought like that can't really be real. So there's an effort with the Great Reset, the World Economic Forum. They're trying to say, listen, animals that we raise, slaughter and eat are really bad for the environment. We actually have to take those farms out. That's number one. But also then we have to go after oil and gas, right? And methane is a key ingredient for fertilizer. And it's allowed the world to feed

billions of people because we have fossil fuels that go into the the fertilizer that allow us to produce massive amounts per acre on our land they want to go after that as well so what's going to happen is they remember what happened in it was in india uh sri lanka yeah they banned it and basically people were starving so they're going to go after your meat and they're going to go after your farms that make from rice to beans to soybeans to corn. They're going after all of it. And so you're going to see starvation across the planet.

And when you see starvation, they're not going to blame it on their policies. They're going to blame it on what, Rachel? Climate change. On climate change. Everything that goes wrong is climate change. So they shut the forest. They refuse to allow people to blame it on what, Rachel? Climate change. On climate change. Everything that goes wrong is climate change. So they shut the forest. They refuse to allow people to manage it.

And then they say climate change is why the forests are burning down. So I was in professional lumberjack sports, chopping, sawing, log rolling, tree climbing. I have an affinity for our loggers and for our forests. And any logger or forester will tell anyone without knowledge, which may be most of you listening to our podcast, they'll say, take anyone and we'll have them walk through two sets of forests. One would be managed and one would be unmanaged. And if you walk through those two forests, every person would go, oh my God, this managed forest is beautiful because all of the underbrush is gone and the trees aren't growing on top of each other.

They've been selectively cut. They don't clear cut forests anymore. They're beautiful to walk through. And if you go to an unmanaged – And they're for humans to walk through. Right. But also they're great for wildlife as well. go through an unmanaged forest, there's brush and crap all over, which when they haven't managed, you have all this fuel on the forest floor that if you get a spark, that's fuel

that rages these forest fires. And by the way, they're saying this forest fire is from climate change. Just a note, we've been having forest fires on this continent forever. Since there's been trees, there's been forest fires. And the fires burn, and then miraculously, the forests grow. I mean, they explode back in growth. Trees grow back? They do.

It's amazing. And the old burnt trees act as fertilizer for the new growth. It's remarkable. So it's the stupidity from these people. And by the way, we are so off our topic right now. No, well, you know what? We're not actually, because again, there is this anti-human, anti-child,

anti-family ideology on the left. And our birth rates are collapsing because of that. Only you and I are keeping them up, Sean. We are. We're doing our part. But just a note on that. And we talk about this a lot. If you want to be happy, if you want to be successful, you want to have children.

And then, therefore, you might go, maybe to back up our narrative, maybe you should go to church. And maybe you should live in a red state that has lower taxes that are going to allow you to better care for and fund your family. Or have the size of family you want to have instead of feeling somehow like you have to limit it because you're worried about the finances and what's going on. The truth is, though, people want kids. You know, I've said this many times that, you know, I have a friend who's a doctor has been with many dying people on their deathbed I asked him what is people's number one regret on their deathbed and he said without a question

number one regret was not having more kids and he had nine by the way that man had nine but yeah you know going back to what makes people happy our culture tells people that living for yourself you know let's go going back to what makes people happy our culture tells people that living for yourself um you know we have that that you know one of the number one songs this year was

miley cyrus's you know i can buy myself flowers i can like dance with myself i can do everything by myself the truth is that doesn't make you happy and and that's part of the cultural lie that's being sold to young people that somehow you're going to be happy without having another person to share your life with, children and grandchildren to live for. And so, again, let's go to the main point here. If you are single and you're listening, prioritize your love life. Understand that your career will not ultimately make you happy. It can be fulfilling. It can be wonderful to have a great career.

It's sort of like an additional thing. But the main thing that will fulfill you is your personal life, your family life, your husband, your wife, your children, your grandchildren, your aunts, your uncles. That is what is really what life, what makes you happy. And there are study after study. Don't believe anything they're telling you out there. It is about that. Listen, jobs are important.

Income is important. But none of that matters. The success of that doesn't matter if you don't have the things that truly matter in your life, right? Which is love, family, kids. That's what really matters. There's a lot of things that are important. Your health is important. Your job is important. All those things make a difference. But if you don't have that core right of finding someone to love. Or if you're not working towards it. I mean, I think it can be daunting. We've talked a lot about online dating and what works about it and what doesn't. There's a lot that doesn't work for it.

By the way, we have a whole podcast that if you go back and get our date like it's the 80s, this is our secret to finding love. But listen, finding your soulmate is the adventure of your life. This is the most important journey that you will be on. More important than what school you'll get into and what job you'll end up with. Finding the right person. All those other things will work themselves out. Don't play catch and release. Try to play catch and catch.

Yeah. There's too much catch and release. Too much swiping. Too much making decisions based on really superficial stuff. We have all the tips, by the way. We're not going to get into it on this podcast. You have to go to our other podcast. You have to download it. If you have

nieces, daughters, sons in your life who are single and you know they'd be happier, you need to listen to this podcast. Share that podcast with them. We have all the tips. You talked about the song by Miley Cyrus about dancing with your son.

I can buy myself flowers. I would far rather dance with you than by myself. You're a horrible dancer. That's up for debate. That's in the eye of the beholder. I sing well and I

dance well and I'm going to tell myself that. But you should dance like no one's watching. And I do. Except I'm watching and judging, judging, judging. But I got to dance with my daughter who's been on our podcast at our wedding. Oh, that was a thing. To dance with your daughter at her wedding is remarkable.

It is a dance that has taken a long time coming, but it's a remarkable... I think he's tearing up just thinking about it. It's a remarkable dance. And so dancing by yourself will never give you that pleasure of a child that you get to marry off, a wife you get to dance with at the wedding.

Those things are wonderful and you don't want to miss them. Yeah. By the way, Evita is kind of a low-key girl. And when we were planning the whole wedding and the reception, she said, I don't want a father-daughter dance. She's like, I think it's just too much attention. I don't want to be up there. Let's just everybody dance. And we were like, listen, that was the only thing we actually insisted on for the wedding. We're like, I'm sorry, we're paying for this. And you were doing a father-daughter dance.

I paid way too much for the wedding and we're going to dance. But I see that there's a song that I've, I'm not going to talk about it here. No. But there's a song that reminds me of her since she's been a little girl that I wanted to dance with her. And I said, okay, that's fine. We won't dance to that song. I think that was a mistake. Again, you should have pulled the,

I paid for the wedding card, played the song you wanted to dance to your daughter with. But we have many chances. We have six girls. We do. Is Valentina getting married? Maybe she will. Maybe she will.

Who knows? Maybe she will. She will dance with me to whatever song I want. I bet. I bet when the others get married, she'll be the only one dancing with you. That's probably true. We'll have more of this conversation after this.

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Speaking of dancing with our own children, which is a happy moment, I want to talk about kids in a not-so-happy light. This is a really, really heavy part of the show. I'm glad we started light because we're going into some dark spaces. Yeah, because so meta, which is Facebook, which owns Instagram, a study was done by the Wall Street Journal and Stanford University and MIT. And what they found was that pedophiles on Instagram, by using different hashtags and emojis, are able to communicate and connect. Pedophiles are able to connect on Instagram and go to- Connect with each other. Connect with each other and then go to certain sites, and those sites can sell then merchandise. The merchandise of child pornography is not on Instagram, let's be clear.

But the people that have a platform on Instagram and all the pedophiles come to then can be sold a videotape of child sex acts or pictures. You got videotapes, pictures, even the sale of children themselves. And so here's what was so disturbing. One, Meta's not dumb, right? Facebook is a high-tech, very efficient company. They're so efficient that they're able to eradicate a lot of, most of, conservative content off their platforms and thought off their platforms,

and they've been proficient at it, right? But they can't seem to find a way to figure out how these hashtags and emojis are used by pedophiles to congregate and communicate with one another using their platform. They use these hashtags and these emojis that are stand-ins for what they want i guess you can search so that they amongst the pedophiles they know what these emojis and codes hashtag pedo whore hashtag pre-teen sex um those can be searched and you can come into these spaces others are are more obscure. They are. Let me just give you some background.

The National Center for Missing and Exploited Children said that in just 2022, they received 31.9 million reports of child pornography. And the vast majority of them are coming from Internet companies. And the vast majority of them are coming from Internet companies. And so that's a 47 percent increase from two years earlier. Meta, which you said Instagram the child pornography reports that were filed to the National Center of Missing and Exploited Children. So, I mean, this is a crazy situation. By the way, our federal government and local governments have been looking, you know, it's part of their job is to kind of disrupt these child pornography rings. We had an FBI whistleblower on our show not long ago.

One of his complaints was they moved, they basically dismantled the team of FBI guys that were supposed to be looking into child, that were looking into child sex crimes and moved them over to investigate January 6th. They've now increased- Grandmas that were by the Capitol on January 6th. They've increased now the number of January 6th people that they're looking at.

You didn't have to enter the Capitol. You just had to be in some perimeter of the Capitol. They've increased that. They're doubling down on that. And they're removing people, FBI agents and investigators, who were looking into child pornography, moving them on to make sure that they investigate American citizens who have

wrong think in the eyes of this or are protesting the wrong cause in the eyes of the Biden administration. So when I was a prosecutor for 10 years, I did a lot of child sexual assaults. We did a lot of these child porn cases as well. And if you deal with whether adults or children, anyone, but specifically children who have been sexually assaulted, it is not a one and done crime. This is a crime that sticks with someone for their whole life. Frankly, most of the time it ruins their life, creates so many problems. And it's torturous to watch, to see people go through the pain. And by the way, it's really hard to go to trial is because yeah they almost relive the the experience again with the offender on the stand now we had tools in wisconsin

where the child victim didn't have to testify they could do it by video um but it is it is a it's the really hard cases it's not just hard on obviously i'm not going to minimize what's happened you know the victims of these crimes you said, these are lifelong sentences they have in terms of their psychological damage from this. You destroy a person's life doing this to them. But as the wife of somebody who was prosecuting these crimes, the psychological toll it took on you, Sean, was tremendous. tremendous to the point where if I am reading say and you know something online and there is something much more graphic than anything we're presenting here about child abuse child sexual abuse crimes and I'll start to read it to Sean he won't even let me finish it he can't handle it he's seen too much of

it he's seen the photos the videos and that was hands down the worst part of your job as a prosecutor. You loved your job as a prosecutor, but this was psychologically tolling on you. It was the worst and the best part of my job. It was great to put people behind bars who did this, but also really hard. Here's what I find interesting about Meta. Here's what I find interesting about Meta. This is a company that is continually perfecting their ability to addict you to your phone and their app. Yes.

They want more people to use it, more people to spend more time on it. They've looked to kids to get kids more addicted to their platform. Now, we're a little older. Older people use Facebook. True. A little younger generation is more Instagram, but they are perfecting your eyeball time on their app. That is the mission of the company. The more time and the more people that are on the platform, the more money they make. That is the mission. It seems odd that, listen, if you have pedophiles that are able to congregate, by the way, the algorithm, if you look at one site and it's a pedophilia-esque site, the algorithm will promote similar content to the pedophiles.

They can find more people in more sites that are consistent with their minor attracted people. Right. We're going to talk about that too. In a second. But again, I want to come back to this point. They're trying to shut down, they have shut down conservatives. So they care about profit, everybody using their site,

unless they're ideologically opposed. And if you're a conservative, if you're a Republican, they're ideologically opposed to you. And therefore they'll forego the profit and shut you out. But they're not opposed. And if you're a conservative, if you're a Republican, they're ideologically opposed to you, and therefore they'll forego the profit and shut you out. But they're not opposed to allowing their algorithms to actually make money off pedophiles. So in the eyes of meta, Republicans, they can't be on our platform. They can't use our platform for their content, but pedophiles have at it. You're better than republicans yeah unbelievable well that well that probably if you did like a pyramid of the worst you know they they love

these pyramids these the leftists too for you know their pyramid of terror that they came out with the other day i bet republicans would rank higher on their list of bad people than even pedophiles um i i'm concerned about a lot of things that are going on here. You're 100% right and so smart to point out that if they can keep conservatives off their platform, they damn well know how to use their,

you know, their algorithms and their AI to keep pedophiles off. By the way, the defense that Meta, Facebook, Zuckerberg is using is hey you know we're using you know technology and algorithms we don't have enough people on it and maybe we need

to change the system they're sort of like walking back and saying we you know that's their that's excuse a lot of people are giving them a pass on it saying yeah this is the problem when you don't have humans you know looking at content i i, I'm a lot more suspicious about it. But I think beyond the fact that we have technology now that allows child pornography and this really awful content that's just soul crushing to be disseminated on these platforms, we have a few other factors that are adding to this. When I looked at this, Sean, and I see that there are 31.9 million reports of child pornography to the National Center for Missing and Exploited Children,

I'm like, who are these flipping creeps? And what is happening here? And yes, there's always been people who exploited children since the beginning of time. It's an evil, awful, probably the worst of any sins and crimes that exist. But I am sensing that there is an increase in this. Yes, because of the technology, but also because there is something happening culturally. I call it the pornification of America. Pornography has become normalized 100%. I mean, there's example after example.

I mean, first of all, the average age that a child sees pornography now is 10 years old. How many of these unsupervised children have phones that they probably shouldn't have? And these companies that are making so much money off of porn. Easy to use, easy to access. Easy to share with their friends. If you have technology, as a child, you can access all kinds of content. And because pornography has become so ubiquitous and kids are growing up with it, we have generations of kids now who have grown up with this.

They become desensitized. It actually, pornography changes your brain in the same way heroin does and so you become desensitized to it just like if you do a lot of heroin you need to do more and so the pornography becomes more and more hardcore hardcore more and more taboos broken and now we have an increase in what we see as child pornography now add, Sean, the fact that who our representative from Florida, Kat Kamak, calls Joe Biden the child sex trafficker in chief because he has lost by our system. Again, easy prey, being trafficked by evil cartels who know that unlike drugs and firearms that are a one-time purchase and transaction, now you have a child who can be used over and over and over again

for profit and for abuse. This is a serious crime. We are, as a federal government, complicit in this. And then we can talk about other- But a couple of things. You've seen this effort to normalize sexual transitions, transgender, and normalize transitions, transgender in kids, right? We see kids at very young ages deciding what their gender is and going under the knife for life-changing surgeries. Yes. And so I look at this, and also part of this movement is this,

again, it's pedophilia, but now they call it minor attracted people. Yeah, you see academics actually using that term. And there's been an effort to destigmatize adults who are attracted to children. Yes, very good point. And so this is not just meta. This is a movement that can use children for the gratification of the adult. It's interesting. Mike Pence was answering some questions. He just got into the presidential race.

And one of the questions was, do you think that young children should be able to make the decision to transition? And he's like, no, I don't think they should be able to transition. Right? Obviously. And then the follow-up question was, well, how about if the parents agree that the child should be able to transition? And obviously Mike Pence came out and said, of course not, no. But to make the equivalent point, it's like, well, how about if the parents say it's okay for their 12-year-old to have sex? Is that okay? Well, no. Society says children who are 12 years old don't have sex.

Also, children of 12-year-olds should not be making gender decisions. They also, just because, well, this is different in Wisconsin, but outside of Wisconsin and every other state, parents can't say it's okay for my parents to, my children to drink. Under the age of 18. Under the age of 21, they can't drink ever. Under 21, yeah. In Wisconsin, if you're with your parents, you can actually drink if you're 18. We're a unique state. Alcohol in Wisconsin is another mouthful.

But Sean, what my concern is, and you're right, you're like, as a culture, we say this is not acceptable. But the cultural norms are changing, and there are agents of change in the culture, activists. The LGBTQ community has been part of joining up with these academics and pushing this idea of minor attracted person as if that's some some sort of thing. The way it it changes people's brains, the way it interferes with the way they view the opposite sex and their ideas of what's appropriate and with sex, what's meaningful. How do they have lifelong partnerships and respectful sexual relationships with people when they have been raised on really some really hardcore pornography? And by the way, it was brought up on Outnumbered today. Much of the content doesn't just involve children. It involves animals. I mean, this stuff is getting out of

control. But let's just take it to a basic level just to show you how normalized pornography has become. And that is the explosion of OnlyFans. Right. And for those who don't know what that is, that is like a site where you can put yourself out there as basically a product, a sexual product who has fans and people who subscribe to you and you perform for them, you take special requests from them,

you do certain things, you post certain things, all of it very sexually explicit in order to make yourself rich. And people have gotten very rich from this stuff. Very, very rich women who might've been waiting tables go away. I can, you know, make a lot of money doing this or C and D list actresses who have kind of stopped getting, you know, the job, the jobs have dried up in Hollywood. Now they've become, there's a curiosity factor about, you know, somebody who was on some TV show in the 80s. They suddenly become an only fan.

Or 90s. Or 90s, yeah, or 90s. And they become, you know, oh, because I was on the 90s. That would never happen with me. But, yeah, that's actually funny. But let me tell you about a story that I saw on the Daily Mail that got me realizing just how normalized. We're seeing more and more stories of moms, young moms, who are saying, I'm upset because the other moms don't want me to be the chaperone on my child's school trip because I'm an I'm a very popular OnlyFans or teachers

who have become, you know, you know, stars on the OnlyFans sites. And so, no, I mean, there needs to be standards. And you may be a nice person, but if you have decided to do this for a living, and by the way, humiliate your child at it. No child wants their mom to be an only fan. But it is really becoming normalized. And then we wonder, in this pornification of America, why we're seeing this increase and this demand on meta. I have a little different take on that. Sure. So first off, if—

I hope you don't. Oh, yeah, I do. If you need to make money, right, and you're like, I'm kind of at wit's end. I want to make some cash. Now, one option is you could go to a strip club with a pole, and you could dance for dollars, right? Or if I'm on OnlyFans, I could be dancing for thousands of dollars. They're making a financial decision. It's totally immoral.

There's a morality issue. I'm not saying that a stripper should be a... Are you suggesting that a stripper should be a chaperone? I'm just saying that you've monetized stripping. Stripping has been monetized where the stripper's actually making some good cash.

They took out the middleman, yes, of course. And so now they're able to make real money. Yes, I know, but that's not a good thing. But I think the point of this, again, socially, we might go, hey, listen, the pornification of America, bad. Bad for families, bad for kids. Adults can make their own decisions. The problem, to your earlier point, is if 10-year-olds are being exposed to pornography or if minors are being exploited sexually, this is going into a whole new realm. And there was a time not that long ago when, five years ago, if you'd have said, the culture is going to go so far in the next five years ago, if you'd have said the culture is going to go so far in the next five years that there's going to be conversations and fights going on in America about school systems trying to allow children to sexually transition without telling their parents. Americans would have lost

their mind five years ago. They would say that is never going to happen. One, children are not going to transition. And number two, schools will never not tell that information to the parents. So I'm looking at this minor attracted people, the pedophiles. Don't be shocked five years from now. Well, no, it's already happening. Sean, there are already the books that are being shown in school. There are books in school libraries that involve adults and children having sex.

They have been, those, you know, go to these parent-teacher, you know, not conferences, but the school board meetings where parents are reading from these books. My point is that

when you normalize moms doing OnlyFans, I think what you're seeing is that pornography is permeating the culture. When you have 10-year-olds having their first look at pornography, when you're seeing it disseminated in the way that it's disseminated and normalized, I think it all bodes well for the protection of children.

And I'm frankly, I'm going to tell you this, I'm with the French. The French have said, screw privacy rights, which we all in America care about privacy rights, but screw privacy rights when it comes to the protection of children. I'm with them on this. Anyone who looks at pornography has to register in France. There's no privacy.

No one cares about privacy anymore. They give it all anyway. But let me tell you, in France, if you want to look at pornography, you have to register your name in order to get access to it. And Americans have not done that and basically shun it

because they go, oh well, my privacy rights, my First Amendment rights, blah, blah, blah, blah. No, you want to look at pornography, which ultimately does have an impact on children and their protection and their right to childhood innocence. I believe everybody who views pornography in this country should have to register with the government. So we know who you are and we know that that that that that there is a firewall that between adults and between adults and children i'm with the french on this um i'm with the french on croissants i'm with the french on this that's where i'm at i don't like french food i'm sorry but italian food I love. This comes down to a basic point on both topics. It's about morality, right? Who are we?

How do we want to live? What are the morals and values by which we will live? children, raising children well, working hard, being dedicated, devoted, and loyal, all really important things in a culture that's successful. Having faith in something that's bigger and greater than us, like our creator, like someone who came here and gave their life for our salvation, all really important themes. And you start to erode faith. You start to erode the family. You start to erode work, commitment, dedication. And all of a sudden, you've eroded what you once were. And then, therefore, you don't have people having families. They don't get married. They don't have kids. But also, then you live in a culture where if you do have kids they're the target of adults for the adult gratification because make no

mistake this is not gratifying the pictures or the or the videos that are being made of little children they're being exploited they're being exploited in for the purpose and pleasure of the adult yeah and we used to be in a culture where at all costs we protect children. Yeah. We always protect children because we understand that they're vulnerable. And so whether it's from a mob that tells them to sexually transition, to get a tattoo, to drink alcohol, to do drugs, to consent to sex, alcohol, to do drugs, to consent to sex. We've stepped in as a society and said, we're not going to allow kids to do certain things because there are certain things that are just off limits because we love them and we want to protect them. And we understand that a

healthy young population leads to a healthy adult population in a strong country. That's gone now, Rachel. I know. And that is why, you know, if you haven't listened to our podcast from earlier this week with Mike Gonzalez, where he talks about the Marxist roots of the sexualization of children, he will say, and really briefly, he says, the stable families with strong protections for children are the basis of a strong and stable society. Strong families with strong protections for children a strong and stable society strong families strong protections for children equal stable society yes if you are a revolutionary if you're a marxist and you want to fundamentally transform america and you want to turn america into something else a socialist

marxist state you have to destabilize the family which is why blm had in their mission statement to destroy the nuclear family now of course when when people saw that, they're like, oh, we didn't mean that. Oh, no, they absolutely 100% mean that. And part of the way, one of the ways, there are many ways that they try and destabilize and break down the family. But one of the ways is the sexualization of children. And Mike Gonzalez, and you can go back and listen to this podcast to get more details on it, goes through the history of it and how early Marxists back in the 1919 actually developed a sex ed curriculum to basically corrupt, sexually corrupt children, introduce the idea of sexual pleasure to children in order to separate them from their parents' values, separate them from their family. Break down the family unit.

And hasten the Marxist revolution. Sounds crazy. Sounds conspiratorial. But as you know, over the last few years, everything that you thought was a conspiracy turned out to just be a spoiler alert. And I'm telling you, this is based in history. And go back to that, you know, he talks about this guy um uh george lucox um go back and study this stuff it's happening it's happening in real time it's dangerous stuff um and interesting go back and listen just watch or read this article in the wall street journal um about this study by

stanford and um who else was in who else was studying this? It was Wall Street Journal, Stanford, and MIT. Or no, it was Massachusetts. Was it the Massachusetts Institute of Technology? University of Massachusetts Amherst. Amherst, yeah. Close. So my motto, if you want to save America, save your family, but that motto doesn't work if you don't have a family.

So first, if you want to save America, have a family and then save it. Or wait, first, no, no, you got to go back further. First, prioritize your love life. Get out there. Go get dating, meet people. It's the adventure of your life. If you love America, find love yourself. Don't catch and release. Try to catch. Not self-love, love for other people right and then once you find that love then have babies and then save them and then you save america it's a couple step process to save america but it's kind of fun along the way you know what you just laid out is so count is is so countercultural it's's actually, that's actually revolutionary.

That is revolutionary. And then to steal a line, Be that kind of revolutionary. To steal a line from your co-host Pete Hexeth, go to church. Yeah. Go to church.

Have kids. This is like the motto of every podcast, but it's so important. Yeah, we keep coming back to it because it matters. It matters. And again,

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