From the Kitchen Table: The Duffys - Will President Trump's Indictment Mean Persecution For Conservatives?

Episode Date: April 7, 2023

On this episode, Sean and Rachel sit down to discuss the arraignment of former President Donald Trump in Manhattan on charges of allegedly falsifying business records, and why they believe that the indictment is a calculated political attack.     Later, they weigh in about the media coverage of the arraignment, how the indictment sets a dangerous precedent for the future, and how the legal cases against the former President impact the 2024 Election.     Follow Sean and Rachel on Twitter: @SeanDuffyWI & @RCamposDuffy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

With Uber Reserve, you can book your Uber ride in advance. 90 days in advance. Perfect for all you forward thinkers and planning gurus. Reserve your Uber ride up to 90 days in advance. Uber Reserve. See Uber app for details. Hey everyone, welcome to From the Kitchen Table. I'm Sean Duffy, along with my co-host of the podcast, Rachel Campos Duffy. So great to be back at our kitchen table, Sean. And I think that we have to just talk about the Trump situation. Yeah, the Trump indictment. So Donald Trump indicted on 34 charges in the Manhattan Superior Court. Alvin Bragg, a Democrat who promised that he would prosecute Donald Trump when he ran for D.A., is delivering on that promise.

Donald Trump was part of this, you know, media frenzy that took place as he went in, was processed, meaning he was fingerprinted. They didn't take a mugshot of him. They didn't handcuff him. Then he came in. Do we know for sure there's no mugshot? They said there was no mugshot. But then they read the charges and Donald Trump pled not guilty. And the next court date is going to be December 4th.

This case reeks to high heaven. These would be misdemeanor charges. It's an accounting error. Donald Trump, if you believe the charges, Donald Trump denies it. But if you believe the state, they said Donald Trump paid $130,000 to Stormy Daniels, a porn star. He made those payments through his lawyer, Michael Cohen. And they say that was illegal. Donald Trump says they didn't do that. That's a misdemeanor.

The statute of limitations has run worse. That was seven years ago. So the way they breed new life into the charges is to make it a felony. And so what the DA has done is said, well, this was in furtherance of another felony. The problem is in the indictment, they didn't tell us what that felony was. They didn't disclose it. So we don't know. Was this a federal charge that they're saying they're using to to advance the misdemeanors into felonies?

The problem with the state law in New York is you can't use a federal charge. It has to be a violation of a New York law. And we don't want to get too complicated here. But Donald Trump, when he ran for president in 2016, he's governed by federal law, not by state law. When I ran for Congress, I was governed by federal law, not Wisconsin law. We follow federal rules for federal races. If you're running for a state seat, assembly, Senate, governor, you follow state rules. So this is I think this reeks to high heaven. This is all about politics. I think the question is, how should people react to it?

this reeks to high heaven. This is all about politics. I think the question is, how should people react to it? I mean, one of the criticisms that I've had and Donald Trump has, too, has been that there hasn't been enough of a reaction on the Republican side. You have people saying this isn't fair, reeks to high heaven. But what are the Republicans doing? He says, by the way, Republicans in Congress should defund the DOJ and the FBI until they come to their senses. The Democrats have totally weaponized law enforcement in our country. They're viciously using this abuse of power to interfere with already under siege elections. I guess he's referring there. This is his latest fundraising letter. I guess he's referring to the fact that it's possible that Alvin Bragg was coordinating

with the White House, with the DOJ in some way to alter the timing of this. Is that what you think that's about? Well, not the timing. Did the DOJ, did any federal money go to help assist Alvin Bragg in the prosecution of Donald Trump? But again, to your point, Rachel, I look and say, well, if the roles were reversed, if Skippy starts to bark at someone coming into a house... He's also not happy about David. He's not happy. But if the roles were reversed

and a Republican prosecutor, state prosecutor, was prosecuting a presidential lead candidate in the Democrat Party, you would see Chuck Schumer on the floor of the Senate. You'd see Nancy Pelosi in the House. They would be losing their minds, giving speeches about an end to democracy. This has this is this has never happened in America before. All the news networks would be bashing that prosecutor. They would lose their minds completely hair on fire. And here, to your point and Donald Trump's point as well, Republicans don't seem to be that outraged by what's happening.

Yeah, they can't go through the motions and say some have not said anything. So you have Mitch McConnell, the leader of the Senate and really prominent members of the House who are considered, you know, good guys like like Senator Thune have said nothing. Good guys like like Senator Thune have said nothing. So when you have people like that saying nothing, it doesn't seem like the party is united the way they're, as you say, the Democrats would be in this case. Another interesting thing is, you know, that I don't think is being talked enough about is how many foreign leaders have come out and said, are you one in Hungary? For example,, Orban actually sent out a tweet showing support for him. But there have been other leaders of Latin American countries, for example, who have said, listen, don't come to me again.

Don't tell the world anymore what a moral authority you are in democracy. This is the kind of stuff the State Department would reprimand these other countries about, you know, basically prosecuting your opposition while you're in power. So it's also eroding our our credibility abroad. And in addition, Sean, this weekend, I had three people who have lived under communism, who came on with sort of the basically saying we should all be terrified right now. Again, you're talking about how in the House and in the Senate, we're not seeing people with their hair on fire as they should be in this situation, because it has implications for all of us. These three people, one was Xi Van Fleet,

who lived under the communist cultural revolution. Here's what she had to say about this. I grew up in Mao's China and I know what it's like to live under a tyrannical government where the law is the will of the party and the will of a dictator, where anyone accused of holding an incorrect political view can lose their freedom and even their lives. During the Cultural Revolution, President Liu Shaoqi, the number two man in CCP, was persecuted and exiled, and there's no law there to protect him.

And every American should be enraged and terrified that our country is becoming a communist banana republic, where one party can abuse its power and weaponize legal system to go after the conservatives from parents to former president. Now, here is Peter. He lived in Albania under communism there. Look, I never thought that I'm going to live in the United States. Thirty three years after I escaped communist Albania and see exactly what I left behind in Eastern Europe coming to the United States. When Stalin's right hand man said, just give me the man and I'll find you the crime. This is what's happening in the United States.

This is about a political submission. They want us to submit to an ideology, an evil ideology called socialism. Usually they start with the leader of the movement, in this case, Donald Trump. They will persecute and prosecute him for political reasons. Then they would go after the family and the businesses, and eventually as the supporters of this movement. Both of them, Sean, saying this is serious. We've seen this movie before. Wake up. Don't you understand that this is the pathway to communism is what they're in essence saying. And America seems to be asleep. Let's let's take a trip down memory lane. Right. So think about this. Donald Trump is being investigated for Russia collusion. Right. Completely false story. Nothing true.

The allegation started in Hillary Clinton's campaign was planted in the FBI. The FBI, the Department of Justice, the CIA all investigated Donald Trump on a fake campaign story from Hillary Clinton. Are you about to pay the people off for a false story? Like, I'm just thinking because of the accounting errors situation. So because they didn't come out and say we did that. It was only after the House investigated that they found the bank record. So that's a good point. So the Federal Election Commission looked at what Hillary Clinton did, paying a million dollars in lawyer fees, which were really campaign fees to get the lawyers to plant this story in the FBI. They fined her $8,000. It was

a campaign violation for how she handled the Russia collusion story, the dossier. She just pays a fine. The FEC looked at Donald Trump's payment to Stormy Daniels, if that happened, and they said there's no campaign violation. He didn't pay any fine on it. So Hillary Clinton actually did what they're accusing Donald Trump of doing, never prosecuted. By the way, she also had 30,000 emails, some classified on her private server, also a crime. And the DOJ decided not to prosecute her. But let me go back to my point. They go after Donald Trump, Russia collusion. They leak the story to the press, the FBI and the DOJ does. He spends four years defending himself on this fake, bogus story that all the media and basically the most powerful branches of government are used to go after the duly elected president.

So he deals with that. He has one impeachment. Then he has a second impeachment. Then they raid Mar-a-Lago for classified documents that Joe Biden had, but not just from the vice presidency. Joe Biden had them from the Senate, which all senators, all House members will say, I have no idea how anyone could get a classified document out of the skiff. Take it with you back to your office. We don't know how that happened. But Joe Biden, a way larger violation, hasn't had his residence raided. happened. But Joe Biden, a way larger violation, hasn't had his residence raided. Donald Trump, though, had Mar-a-Lago. There's a lot of reason to raid that house because they found all those some of those documents were related to Ukraine. And we know his son was involved with Ukraine. I mean, it's kind of a crazy situation. And let's go to the prosecution. So one,

they prosecuted Papadopoulos. They prosecuted General Flynn. They prosecuted Bannon, Navarro, Manafort. So they've gone after so many people in the Trump orbit using the criminal justice system to attack an administration that was, again, duly elected. So for anyone to sit back and now watch Donald Trump being charged for clerical errors, for bookkeeping errors, and not say the system is political, that the system is not out to get Republicans, not out to get Donald Trump, you're not seeing the daylight. This is exactly what they're doing. And I've come to this conclusion long ago, Rachel. And I think it was Ned Ryan, I'm talking to the other night, said you need mutual assured destruction, which I've been talking about that before as well.

You can't have a system where Republicans and Donald Trump live by one standard and Democrats get a different standard. Democrats get the old standard. Republicans get the new standard where anything that you do, we're going to try to fit a law breaking crime into it. Democrats have to be forced to live by that same standard. Republican prosecutors have to start going after Democrats. Two Republicans have the stomach. I don't know that they do, but if they don't, we'll have a two-tier justice system. But once everybody lives under this standard, once Joe Biden is prosecuted as well, maybe Barack Obama too, and Hillary Clinton, and senators, and House members. Once that happens, maybe they'll all sit back and go, whoa, this isn't very good for America. This isn't good for democracy. Maybe we should go back to the old way and we shouldn't make up charges against each

other to try to imprison our political enemies. Because what this is about is about stopping Donald Trump from running or at least damaging him before his primary and eventually in the general. Why do they hate him so much? I mean, there's a visceral reaction. There is. It's real. Trump derangement syndrome. Why? I think it's because Donald Trump is going up against the system in a way that nobody has before. He doesn't have he doesn't owe anybody anything. He's not willing. And if you really look very closely, it really is about foreign policy. It really is about the military industrial complex. I think probably the most controversial thing and the signal that they had, they had to take him out, was when he called George Bush's war stupid, the Iraq war.

He said, no more stupid wars. And I think a lot of Republicans like you and I felt that way at that time. Like, what year would that have been? Back in 2015 when he was running for his first term. And he said it. We all thought it at that point, but it seemed like it was a rule you couldn't break, which was like you can't say anything about the Iraq war or or or George Bush because it felt like you were attacking other Republicans. lot of people that make a lot of money off of these wars. And you can see that the only presidency where there wasn't a war was under Donald Trump. And that's a real threat, I think, to the military industrial complex and a lot of the people around that complex who make a lot of money.

Yeah, you know, as I spent nine years in Washington and under the Trump administration and other Republican administrations as well, what you realize is you can win an election. You can put a secretary into the agency. But that agency is full of left wing Democrat activists, people, the true believers. believers. And so you might try to do as a secretary, the will of the president who was elected on a certain set of ideas. But everybody inside the agency will try to stonewall you, will try to stop you, will try to thwart you. Right. That's the swamp that they talked about. That is the deep state that you have in Washington. And now since Barack Obama, they've infiltrated the FBI and the DOJ with a whole bunch of left-wing activists, which we see that playing out. The FBI and the DOJ, they're looking at traditional Catholics

that go to Latin Mass. They're going after school board parents, parents who go to school board meetings and speak their mind about CRT. They're going after pro-lifers who are protesting. That's right. And so if you want to fix the country, you have to get rid of the union, the civil service laws that allow these people and these agencies to keep their jobs for life. Listen, if you're not going to do the job of the administration, the administration has to have the right to fire them. You have to be able to get rid of them. And you can bring your own people in so you can affect the change that you promised in the campaign. How difficult is it to get something like that done? It'll be it'll be. Well, Vivek Ramaswamy will say that was the civil service laws were done by executive order.

So if done by executive order, they can be undone by executive order. But it will be a massive fight. But by the way, you saw what happened in Wisconsin when Scott Walker went against the unions. Yeah, you know, the massive protests, you would see the same thing. But these are 90 percent Democrat voters that want to continue with the Democrat agenda, even though you have a Republican president. So you have to have the moral fortitude to make significant changes. Should he win again? He's thinking through what he did wrong the last time and how he has to be smarter with smarter people to affect the change that's necessary to save the country. And again, I think Ron DeSantis probably is if he's going to run is thinking about that now. Donald Trump has to have the same thought process or if not get really smart people in and empower them to do these things should you win. Yeah, I mean, that's really

getting to the root of the problem. Also, back to what Donald Trump said in that statement in his fundraising letter about defunding agencies that aren't doing the will of the people, that aren't doing what the president wants or what the representatives have asked them to do. I think that's definitely one thing that can be done. I think we need to get back to what Donald Trump said when he went to Mar-a-Lago after the circus in New York. And again, he made the point, he laid out, as you did, all the things that have been done to him to stop him, even before he stepped foot into the Oval Office, this amazing hoax. I mean, probably one of the greatest political crimes, truly, in American history. And I don't think, you know, it sort of fizzled out in the media, but it's really, I mean, it was really a, I think they were trying to overthrow the government,

really. I mean, that's what they were trying to do. They were trying to interfere with that presidency, say that the president was compromised by the Russians, even though they were paying Russians to get dirt on Trump that was that were lies. But this was, you know, really a sort of administrative coup d'etat in so many ways, an attempt. And I mean, this is massive, massive stuff. But this now, you know, when he came out, came to Mar-a-Lago, he laid out all of this that happened to him. But then he said, they're coming after you. And who can deny that when we see what happened to him, what happened as you laid out to everyone in his orbit, what happened to his supporters in January 6th, the way they're treated, the way so many of them are still sitting in the prisons of D.C. without, you know, justice, without, you know, speedy court dates. So I think people really need to wake up, as you say, Sean, because they are coming for us. are coming for us. And again, I think some people have woken up and you and I hear a lot of conversations about people who say, is there a way to quietly divorce because the Gulf is so big? Could there be a national divorce where let's just, we live our life our way and you guys live

your life that way? Is that the solution? Can we ever come together? Can we ever bring this country back from this Rubicon that we've obviously crossed here? I think you bring up a good point. So you had January 6th. You've seen some of the video maybe on Tucker, but a lot of people walking, strolling through the Capitol. Some were violent. Some were breaking windows and doors, hold them to account. But it wasn't an attempt to overthrow the government. To your point, the real coup d'etat was at a very high level in government, the FBI, the DOJ, the CIA, trying to feed a narrative and a story that was completely false about Donald Trump colluding with Russia in the election to have him removed from office, to actually have the will of the people undone. And our own government tried to do that with a

sitting president. That is far more dangerous than anything that happened on January 6th. 100%. Far more dangerous. And you asked why, Sean, you said, why do they hate him so much? I have to believe after I look at all of this and what they've done and the ferocity with which they've gone after him and the fact that they're still going after him, even when he's not in office, they see him as such a threat. So what is he threatening? It's not just the military industrial complex. I think there's something even bigger. And that is the great reset. Wait right there. We're going to have more of that conversation next. plan ahead. Family vacay? Reserve your ride as soon as you book your flights. To all the planners, now you can reserve your Uber ride up to 90 days in advance. See Uber app for details.

I think you're right. I think that Donald Trump wants America to be American. He doesn't, again, he doesn't want open borders. He wants to have law and order on the streets. He wants a strong military, but doesn't want to actually use the military. He loves the flag and the national anthem, wants us to stand up for it, wants us to protect kids, wants a great education for our children that is not politically motivated, trying to indoctrinate them. Those things are all an offense to the wokesters that have penetrated deeply inside of corporate America and inside the government and inside schools, inside Hollywood, inside the media. They can't stand that Donald Trump could bring us back to what we once were. And that's, by the way, what I think that people

want. Yeah. And I also think that some of the top leaders, whether it was Hillary, Joe Biden, I also think that some of the top leaders, whether it was Hillary, Joe Biden, Barack Obama, were very much aligned and working in concert fight between those even within the EU like Italy's prime minister who is a nationalist who is somebody who wants to fight for Italy not the EU, not the globe not these WEF weird policies that they want to put forward

then you have someone like Donald Trump the strongest of all the nationalists but everybody, they're trying to take them out and you see Bolsonaro in Brazil. Our government actually worked through the CIA, through big tech to help elect the leftists who are now aligning with China to get rid of Bolsonaro because he was a national. So clearly the idea of nationalism, of caring about your country first, your country's interests, and not this one world government that is being pushed out of Brussels, but also Davos. There's something there that those figures in world politics who are the biggest threats to

that transnationalism, to that reset, are being taken out one by one. And so I think there is something there that that system can tolerate a Joe Biden, a Barack Obama, a Bill Clinton, a Hillary Clinton, because they actually agree with them. Yeah, I think you're right. I went I went down to the Marjorie Taylor Greene rally reporting for Fox Business. I went down to the Marjorie Taylor Greene rally reporting for Fox Business. What did you see? It was the day of Trump indictment. I was there at 10 o'clock. And it was fascinating.

There was media. There was every global news network. Some were intense. Some were walking around. Every podcaster, every YouTuber. I mean, there were cameras, every newspaper. It was media everywhere. Probably 90% of it, 95% of it was media. And about 5% were people who had come out for the rally with Marjorie Taylor Greene to support Donald Trump. I'll tell you, out of the 150 people that

were there, there was probably 20 people that were there as rallyers, right? Were there people on both sides. So the park, it's a small park, was separated into one side where the pro-Trumps, and then there were the people gates, and then a space and another people gate. And on the other side were the anti-Trumpers. Was it a separate park? No, it was right across from the courthouse, the small part. But there was more anti-Trumpers there than pro-Trumpers. But all the media were on the pro-Trump side trying to get video and footage and comments from the pro-Trumpers.

But it was interesting when Marjorie came in and it became a ruckus. She was only there for like four minutes. What happened was the anti-Trumpers left their side and they came over onto the pro-Trump side, right? And they were creating dissent. They were pushing people. They were blowing whistles. They were beating drums. They were yelling. Exactly what you see on a college campus. They didn't want to allow people to speak. They wanted to be shut down by their noise. Hey, hey, ho, ho. So if you separated them, they could say what they wanted to say, and the Trump people could say what they wanted to say,

but these guys didn't want them to be able to say what they wanted to say. They wanted to come over to their side to shout them down. They wanted to stifle the speech of the pro-Trumpers, not just from inside the pro-Trump side, but on the other side, on the anti-Trump side, they were beating drums, blowing whistles, horns. So you couldn't hear. And Eric Adams came out to Marjorie Taylor Greene and basically admonished her to be well-behaved. Everyone that was there pro-Trump was be well-behaved. Everyone that was there pro-Trump was incredibly well-behaved. The only bad behaviors, as you would expect, were the anti-Trumpers. And again, it's the narrative. It's like the Republicans are bad. Republicans are violent.

I'm like, listen, I saw what happened in the BLM riots, all the left-wingers that came out, the antifas that came out and destroyed cities, beat people up, people outside eating in a restaurant, getting hit and beat and their food thrown on them. Republicans, for the most part, are pretty docile, have been pretty nice. And again, I'm so sick of that narrative being driven by the left wing media. So again, it was peaceful. But maybe that's the problem. It goes back to the original problem, is that you talked about the only way to end

this kind of tyranny and authoritarianism that we have now slided into. And by the way, it's here. It's not like we're saying it could come. We are here. It's already happening. We already are living it. And your original point was the only way to fight this is to act like them,

that there has to be sort of mutually assured destruction when it comes to weaponizing, you know, D.A. offices against figures, you know, like Joe Biden and and Hillary or whoever. figures like Joe Biden and Hillary or whoever, there has to be sort of the same kind of outrage from our leaders, the same kind of groupthink from our leaders, the same kind of pushback from our leaders on the conservative side. I just think depending on that is going to be, it could be very disappointing, Sean, because it's just not in the nature of conservatives to do that kind. I mean, conservative doesn't mean conserving the system, but frankly, there is no system anymore to conserve. I agree. And I listen, when I say that, the mutual issue of destruction, I don't like that. That doesn't make me feel good. I don't

want to live in an America like that. But I think you have to do that to get your country back to what it was. Again, a two-tier justice system will never end unless Republicans force Democrats to live under those same rules. Just another quick point. If you look at the January 6th defendants, where are they being prosecuted? They're being prosecuted in Washington, D.C., where 95 percent of the people voted for Joe Biden, 5 percent for Donald Trump. They hate Republicans. Easy to convict someone who went to the Capitol, even if you don't have the evidence. Really easy. And if you have someone at the FBI or the DOJ who fomented the false Russia collusion story, that trial is also in Washington, D.C.

And what happens? Nothing. They get off, right? It's politics of the jury that matter. Where the case comes matters on whether the jury will be fair, whether the decisions in the jury will be fair. Don't you have a right to a jury of your peers? The January 6th defendants have no peers in Washington, D.C. The courts have expounded upon what is a jury of your peers ad nauseum. And again, they're going to go there and pick, you know, the politics of a jury panel

who say they're nonpolitical, even though they are, will be enough to get them, you know, seated on the panel to hear the case. But now take Donald Trump. These are the most ridiculous charges, 34 felony charges in Manhattan. Donald Trump got 13% of the vote, where this jury panel would come from. Joe Biden got 85% of the vote. So to think that you have a fair jury in Manhattan is ludicrous. Alvin Bragg can go forward with a total garbage case,

total garbage facts, and still convict Donald Trump for 136 years. This is basically a sentence that could come for the rest of his life and a second life that he had. That's the kind of... So he's facing 136 years in prison. He is. Over this. By the way, the amount...

So it's $130,000 of this, you know, booking, you know, this booking error or accounting error, the amount of money it took to protect the city during this circus that you went to was in the millions. Two million dollars. Two million dollars. And also, this is one of the highest crime cities ever. And those cops were being pulled off of the beat to protect, you know, these, you know, as you said, maybe 100 protesters. And like God knows how much media and the circus. It just makes it makes no sense at all. And again, this is why I think we've fallen into this really, you know, people use the word banana republic.

It is the exact definition of a banana republic. Look up the definition word banana republic. It is the exact definition of a banana republic. Look up the definition of banana republic. It describes this perfectly. And it's one powerful group who have all the power in the country weaponizing government against the other side. I thought that's what's happening. I thought it was real rich. After the indictment, Alvin Bragg, the prosecutor in Manhattan, came out and was like, not in my city. We are law and order and you won't commit serious crimes in New York because if you do, we're coming for you. And I listen to that and I'm like- Was he talking to the protesters? No, he was talking to the press after the Donald Trump indictment. And I'm like, really? You're

tough on crime, Alvin Bragg? Really? You're a tough prosecutor. There'll be no crimes on my committee. I mean, give me a break. 50% of the felonies are reduced to misdemeanors. Serious crimes are not prosecuted. Victims are not notified. This guy, Alvin Bragg, doesn't believe in prosecuting crimes, doesn't believe in putting bad people behind bars. He is, I mean, he is- He charges the people who are defending themselves against violent criminals. Against the criminals. The criminals in the mind of Alvin Bragg are the victims and the victims are the criminals. If you defend yourself, that's his mentality.

But Donald Trump's bookkeeping error really wouldn't go after 34 felony charges. When you bend over backwards to make every felony a misdemeanor here, you're trying to bend over backwards and stretch the law to make misdemeanors into a felony. And that only happens in Alvin Bragg's world if it's for Donald Trump. So, Sean, let's quickly talk about the politics of this. Does this hurt or help Donald Trump? So right after the Mar-a-Lago situation, we saw Trump's numbers go up. But yet, if you want to say that Trump was at the center of the midterms, the Republicans lost big time in the midterms. Now we're looking at this situation again.

We're seeing a spike in support even among independents for Donald Trump. I think he was already ahead 30 points with the within the Republican primary. It's probably higher than that right now. Does does that lead carry through for the rest, you know, through the primaries? Can he hold on to that? Will the fact that these indictments and charges that there are going to be more of these type of events and court dates and so forth, does that end up eroding and tiring people out? What does it look like for Donald Trump? The truth is no.

Right. This election is a lifetime away. Stop it, Skippy. This is a lifetime away. And so I do think it helps Donald Trump with the primary voter, because when it's not going away, this case is still going to be pending. We have a December 4th court date. This case will still be alive and well in primary season, which I do think will help Donald Trump. There's going to be a Georgia case potentially filed

against Donald Trump with election interference, right? Again, another left-wing prosecutor coming after Donald Trump. You could see the DOJ prosecute Donald Trump for legally taking documents from the White House, saying that, again, he committed espionage by taking documents to Mar-a-Lago. Again, the laws that apply to Donald Trump, they want to sweep under the rug for Joe Biden. So I think this doesn't go away. I think this does actually help him because it makes Republicans really angry. We know people who don't really give money to campaigns at all. I know that for a fact because they're from my community and I ran for office. I see what they give. They actually don't. Those who don't give.

They gave to Donald Trump. They're so frustrated and angry. Seven million dollars, eight million dollars in the last few days. I just wonder, Sean. And again, I think that Donald Trump has been, you know, wronged in this. I think it has implications for everybody who opposes the regime that we have right now. I think they're coming after all of us as we speak. They're silencing us. They're canceling us there. You know, I just think this is a huge persecution. We saw Christian children, you know, gunned down last weekend and our our, you know, I just think this is a huge persecution. We saw Christian children, you know, gunned down last weekend. And our our, you know, White House has sided with the people who gunned the Christians down.

I mean, this is a battle that we're in for sure. That said, could there be with all the things that you say are coming up, all these other trials that are coming up? Could there be fatigue and people say, well, I'll take a DeSantis or a Vivek Ramaswamy, I'll take the Trump policies without the drama and the fatigue, or can he sustain this kind of support that he has right now, Donald Trump? I think that's possible, but I do think people to fight back and push back about the injustice of what's happened to Trump and what's happening to Republicans, they actually want to support the guy that is the victim of unjust prosecution. So I think that's where they'll

fall. Now, what does this mean for the general election? I think this is far more challenging for Donald Trump running for reelection in the general. And that's another question. When people say, I like Donald Trump, I want to support him because I know he's a fighter and he can do this, which I do think a lot of people are supporting him because they go, I couldn't have survived a fraction of what Donald Trump, he's still standing, he's still fighting. But do they go, yeah, I want to stand with him because he's the victim here and he's the fighter, but I think he'll lose in the general because of these photos and these things. So I'm

going to go with someone else. Yes. And we don't know. I think it's going to play out. Ron DeSantis is getting beaten badly by Donald Trump right now, but he hasn't announced. You don't know what's going to happen in these races should DeSantis decide to run and what happens. But DeSantis looks at this and says, you know what? This isn't my time. It could be too challenging, too difficult for me to get in and to actually win. So we're going to watch it. We're going to come and talk to you about what happens on these races. But make no mistake, if we all don't speak out, if our leaders don't speak out about the injustice, it will continue to happen. And you are slowly and then more quickly losing your country. You can't live in a society where if you have the wrong viewpoint, you are

prosecuted. If you don't share the majority's politics, you will be prosecuted. You engage in wrong think. You're prosecuted. You lose your job. You're punished. Just saw, by the way, Sean, a woman who was about to adopt two children, but they ask her in the questionnaire whether she agrees with gender ideology, blah, blah, blah. She's a Christian. She says no, she can't adopt the child. It used to be the opposite, right, that they wanted Christian parents with good values. Now you can't even do a good thing and adopt a child if you hold these traditional values.

So there's a real attack on Christians, on your values. If people see that, maybe we'll get a change. I do want to close with people remembering what G. Van Fleet and Peter said earlier in the show. They have seen this movie before. This only leads to authoritarianism, to

tyranny. We experienced it to some degree during COVID. That was a dry run. It's only going to get worse for people who aren't towing the line of the regime and, quite frankly, of the globalists who are running everything. So I think it's a serious time. And if you think this is going to actually slow down, this is a moment in time of craziness. We're going to go back to normal. You're wrong. It's not going to slow down. It's actually going to speed up unless we stop it in its tracks.

And it comes back to my theme of if you want to stop it in its tracks, raise your kids well. Save America. Save your family. That's the most you can do is raise good kids. Take them back from the wokesters who are trying to indoctrinate them and do everything in your power to make sure your kids aren't going to be part of the problem. Your kids are going to be part of the salvation of this country. Make sure that you're telling the story of what happened in communist China, communist Cuba, Venezuela, those Eastern Bloc countries that experience it. Talk about what those people

experience, because that's why so many young people aren't afraid of socialism, aren't afraid of globalism, because they have completely had a block out on the history of those ideologies, the death and destruction and starvation that came from those ideologies. And it's really up to us to talk about it because we don't, they're not going to get it from anywhere else. So that's when you talk about it. That's what up to us to talk about it because we don't, they're not going to get it from anywhere else. So that's when you talk about it. That's what my mind goes to is telling them the truth. Sorry, Skippy's telling us we have to end the podcast right now.

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