Front Burner - Bonus: Brainwashed

Episode Date: October 6, 2023

Brainwashed, hosted by Michelle Shephard, veteran national security reporter, investigates the CIA’s covert mind control experiments – from the Cold War and MKULTRA to the so-called War on Terror.... It’s the story of how a renowned psychiatrist used his unwitting patients as human guinea pigs at a Montreal hospital, and the ripple effects on survivors, their families, and thousands of other people around the world. The series is an exploration of what happens in times of fear, when the military and medicine collide. And what happens when the survivors fight back. More episodes are available at: https://link.chtbl.com/RM_zRWn-

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Starting point is 00:00:00 In the Dragon's Den, a simple pitch can lead to a life-changing connection. Watch new episodes of Dragon's Den free on CBC Gem. Brought to you in part by National Angel Capital Organization, empowering Canada's entrepreneurs through angel investment and industry connections. This is a CBC Podcast. Hey, Damon Fairless here. If you liked today's episode about MKUltra, I'd really suggest checking out the CBC podcast series we mentioned, Brainwashed. Brainwashed does a deep dive on the CIA's covert mind control experiments, from the Cold War and MKUltra to the so-called War on Terror.
Starting point is 00:00:39 It's the story of how the renowned psychiatrist Ewan Cameron used his unwitting patients as human guinea pigs at the Allen Psychiatric Institute in Montreal. And it's about the ripple effects on the survivors, their families, and thousands of other people around the world. It also examines the cultural impact, how the CIA brought LSD to America and inadvertently created counterculture influencers, the writer Ken Kesey, the poet, Alan Ginsberg. And it's an exploration of what happens in times of fear when the military and medicine collide and what happens when the survivors fight back. Now, here's the first episode of Brainwashed. Take a listen.
Starting point is 00:01:27 Where are we right now in Montreal? We're downtown and we're facing McGill University. That's it right there. That's McGill up ahead. Yeah. You got it. All right, I'm hoping we can make a left turn there somewhere. Do you want me to keep going right for now, or?
Starting point is 00:01:47 Oh, you're not in Ontario, dear. Oh, that's illegal? Oh, yeah. Oh. Because on the island of Montreal, we are not considered adult enough to make a right turn on a red light. Sorry about that. That's okay.
Starting point is 00:01:59 I don't care. This is Alan Tanney, and he's a character. See, I don't remember this. You never came with him? Came once, yeah. Did you ever go back? No. No.
Starting point is 00:02:14 It looks in the photos, it always looks so ominous. Yeah. We've come to the Alan Memorial Institute, perched on the side of Mount Royal. We've come to the Allen Memorial Institute, perched on the side of Mount Royal. It's a dark, imposing building, adorned with columns, chiseled crests, stony faces, and snarling creatures. It was formerly known as... Ravenscrag, it was called. Ravenscrag. This was once a mansion built by shipping magnate Sir Hugh Allen.
Starting point is 00:02:43 34 bedrooms, a library, a ballroom, and out back, large horse stables. His family later donated the majestic home to the Royal Victoria Hospital and McGill University. In 1943, it became a psychiatric hospital and training institute, known as the Allen. Is this still a hospital? Yeah, for the mental patients. Okay. Take care. Hi, sir.
Starting point is 00:03:15 We're just taking a look in the lobby here. We have a recording outside. Recording my sarcasm. He just wanted to see the inside. I wanted to see the inside. My father was an inmate here many years ago. Really? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Okay, but there's nothing really from the inmate? I know. I know. I just wanted to see if he remembered anything. Well, a lot of like this over here is changed over time. If only, as the saying goes, these walls could talk. What happened inside this building changed Alan Tanney's father's life forever. He was drugged and forced to undergo so-called medical treatments that were much closer to torture. His father was part of a larger, darker chapter of history involving secret human experiments and the search for mind control. It was really ugly.
Starting point is 00:04:11 I mean, they took basically healthy people and turned some of them into vegetables. They ruined piles of lives. They ruined piles of lives. I was yelling. I was screaming. Leave me alone. You can't do this. It was just horrible. He took my life and shattered it all over the place. What happened at the Allen over half a century ago has consequences that are still felt today.
Starting point is 00:04:50 And not just for the psychiatric patients in Montreal and their families, but in how intelligence operations are conducted around the world in places where medicine and the military collide. And no one has ever been charged. No one has been disciplined, which allows history to keep repeating itself. I'm Michelle Shepard, and this is Brainwashed, episode one, Ravenscrag. Welcome to our satellite newsroom.
Starting point is 00:05:31 It took me about 45 minutes, I think, in the garage downstairs. Oh, really? Oh, it's unbelievable. Alan Tanney is now 72. He has a law degree from McGill University, but had to take over his father's business before he got a chance to practice law. And I know you've done lots of this and I really appreciate you talking about it again. Oh, no problem.
Starting point is 00:05:53 Like his father before him, he turned out to be a pretty talented salesman. His latest business venture is selling snowblowers, something Montreal needs desperately in the winter months. I buy snowblowers for $100,000 and hope that I can sell them for $125,000. And that nothing goes wrong and I don't have to get caught on the warranty. That's my gamble. Montreal's a vibrant city, filled with Victorian-era architecture and lots of quaint French bistros. But Alan says we've missed Montreal's golden age, back in the 1950 1950s when he was growing up.
Starting point is 00:06:32 It was fantastic, seriously. When I compare it to the childhood of my children, boy did they miss out on a lot. We had a great, God, we did whatever we wanted. The weekends I would go out, there was literally, you know, maybe 50 kids to go and play ball hockey with and we would Set up in teams and we would play from 9 in the morning to 6 or 7 at night How was your mom and dad do? my father ran a What did he run a surplus business? He was he was buying army surplus But he was into other things. When they built the Saint
Starting point is 00:07:05 Laurent-class destroyers in the 50s, my father was manufacturing or having manufactured for him all electrical boxes and stuff like that, and he was bringing in streetlights from Europe. And my mother was helping him. Charles Taney's business was booming in the 1950s. This was after World War II, at the start of the Cold War, when the U.S., Soviet Union, and China were fighting for supremacy. And what was your relationship like with your dad?
Starting point is 00:07:36 What do you remember? According to Alan, his father Charles was a real workaholic. The kind of guy who never took a sick day and prided himself on that. He just kept his head down, working on his business and helping raise three kids. Life was pretty good until the spring of 1956. That's when Charles Taney's face began to hurt. It was a pain that started on the right side near his eye and extended down towards his mouth.
Starting point is 00:08:06 Excruciating pain. My father had something called trigeminal neuralgia. There's a nerve that comes down in here and down like that. So along your cheek and... Yeah, and the pain from everything I've read is horrific. The main treatment in those days was to cut the nerve. And then you'd be disfigured on that side of your face. And plenty of people, including, you know, some people that I knew had it and did it. My father did not wish to do that.
Starting point is 00:08:42 This is not a man who got sick. It's not a man who would take a day off of work, God forbid. And here he was, instead of going to work, he was sitting at home, lying out on the couch, and chewing ice cubes all day long to try and freeze it from the inside. And he had apparently, in 1940, had had a similar attack that eventually went away. This time it was months long. Charles Taney went to his doctor in search of relief, but with no success. They tried all kinds of things and I think they finally decided that it was psychosomatic. He was working like a dog and he was under a lot of pressure. So I guess there was a lot of stress and he had
Starting point is 00:09:25 this attack. And so that's how Charles Taney ended up at the Allen. Psychiatry at the time was a relatively new field and mental illnesses were deeply stigmatized. Insane asylums were essentially where people were housed to be out of the public sight. Lobotomies, insulin comas, and shock therapy were some of the only treatment options. Hospitals were chronically underfunded. At the large English hospital outside of Montreal, there was often just one psychiatrist for every 300 patients. So the Allen Memorial Institute was going to take a new approach. Charles Taney felt fortunate.
Starting point is 00:10:13 He could afford what was considered to be the best, most cutting-edge psychiatric care available. The modern mental hospital still has a long way to go. But here and there are models of science, of intelligence, and of compassion. Such a model is the Allen Memorial Institute of Psychiatry of Montreal, one of the foremost mental health institutions in the world. The person who comes to the Allen Memorial Institute comes voluntarily and leaves voluntarily. There are no bars. There are no locked doors. Perhaps it was the Allen's lofty reputation that made no one question the hospital's unorthodox treatments.
Starting point is 00:11:06 My father got admitted, he got put to sleep for 56 days. Being asleep means essentially 21 to 22 hours a day. They wake him up to use the bathroom, although they didn't want him to use the bathroom. They wanted him to go in the bed. Incontinence was very important to them. They wanted to bring him back to the stage of being a baby. The family did not know exactly what was happening to Charles while he was in the hospital's care.
Starting point is 00:11:41 That would take years to find out. Alan's brought some documents with him for reference, even though he knows their details by heart. They're his father's medical records. And if drugging patients and putting them to sleep for such prolonged periods sounds a bit excessive for nerve pain, it gets worse. There was two machines that they used for the shock treatment. According to these hospital reports, Charles was also given round after round of electroshock therapy.
Starting point is 00:12:15 So my father was on the first one, and then a doctor went in and wrote his daily report and came up with the very alarming problem. My father asked to see my mother. So even when he's in the sleep room, he comes out enough to... My father asked to see my mother. They were horrified that he actually remembered that he had a wife. That's when Alan says they upped the intensity of his father's shock therapy and a
Starting point is 00:12:48 second more aggressive round of shocks were administered. The goal, it seemed, was to make Charles forget everything. So instead of giving one shock and that was it, this one would give like six. Bang, bang, bang, bang, bang, bang. This extreme form of ECT, or electroconvulsive therapy, was known as the Page-Russell, named after its inventors. He had been running at the rate of two Page-Russells a day because of his hostility and violence. He is struggling against eating and has to be tube-fed. By day 41, Charles Taney's medical chart notes
Starting point is 00:13:29 that he is confused and occasionally incontinent. This is his 48th day of sleep. He has no knowledge of where he is. A lot of the time he is pretty cheerful and childish, though at other times he will show little bursts of hostility. Taney would not take the medication willingly for the most part. His records state he had to receive it by injection. He was very heavily dosed on drugs, all kinds of barbiturates, but unlike most patients,
Starting point is 00:13:59 he did not get LSD. Unlike most patients, he did not get LSD. There were many patients at the Allen who did. They received the new psychedelic drug without any warning or consent. It was all part of these extreme so-called treatments. They started out with LSD. They gave me sodium amytol. They gave me electric shock treatment.
Starting point is 00:14:31 From what I understand, they were 100 times more powerful than what was considered acceptable. And then they put me to sleep for 23 days. In the Dragon's Den, a simple pitch can lead to a life-changing connection. Watch new episodes of Dragon's Den free on CBC Gem. Brought to you in part by National Angel Capital Organization. Empowering Canada's entrepreneurs through angel investment and industry connections. Hi, it's Ramit Sethi here. You may have seen my money show on Netflix. I've been talking about money for 20 years.
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Starting point is 00:15:26 financial vision together. To listen to this podcast, just search for Money for Couples. I had never been ill before in my life. And when I had my daughter, I became very depressed. In those days, we didn't know anything about postpartum depression. I just knew that I didn't have much zest for living. So I went to the head of the Department of Psychiatry and said, look, I want to go away and get better. And we chose the Allen. I remember having a helmet,
Starting point is 00:16:01 like it was a football helmet with speakers in the ears. And I remember sitting on the floor and they played tapes ongoing all day long, which went on for, I think, a little over a month. Well, I saw a tray with a needle, a syringe, and the card on it had my name, so I looked a little more closely, and it was lysergic acid diethylamide. And my husband was a druggist and I knew a lot of drugs, but I'd never heard of that one. I took the injection and I didn't like it, and it really did create a poisonous psychosis. a poisonous psychosis.
Starting point is 00:16:50 During the night they'd wake us up and give us another half glass of pills. The room became very distorted and I thought my bones were all melting. Well I was hallucinating and they kept telling me you're getting smaller and smaller and they kept bringing me back in time and asking me all kinds of questions. It was just an absolute nightmare. I was absolutely crying for hours and hours and hours, I mean, really from deep inside of me. I was in a comatose state for 72 consecutive days, and in order to get me into that state,
Starting point is 00:17:21 I had over 109 electroconvulsive shock treatments. Their objective was to wipe my memory. I suffered. I suffered like hell. Former patients, Robert Logie, Val Orlikow, Helene McIntosh, Jean-Charles Paget, and Linda McDonald. There were over 100 patients who received these extreme forms of treatment, staying at the island for days, weeks, months. Many were women with mild symptoms, suffering from conditions we identify today as postpartum depression or anxiety. Most emerged fundamentally changed.
Starting point is 00:18:08 This is Hilda Bernstein. She was at the island for three weeks. I didn't know my husband and my children, my brother-in-law and his wife. And my sister-in-law at that time, when she saw me, she cried. She's a registered nurse too, and she said she'd never seen such a change in a person in three weeks. But I looked really dreadful. And Linda McDonald. I had no identity. I had no memory. I'd never existed in the world before. Like a baby. Just like a baby that has to be toilet trained. And Val Orlico. At one point, I thought I would just go out and jump in front of a car on a busy thoroughfare in Montreal.
Starting point is 00:18:54 I stood there swaying for quite a while and then decided that all that would happen would be this. With my luck, I'd just be battered physically and I'd have that to contend with. I'd just be battered physically, and I'd have that to contend with. But I don't know. It's very difficult to think about sometimes. Brain injuries, memory loss, crippling depression, unable to relearn basic life skills, and suicide.
Starting point is 00:19:36 Alan Taney's father, Charles, left the hospital after three and a half months. He was a completely different man. Alan was eight years old when his father returned home. Young, but not too young to remember what he was like before he entered. It was really ugly. When you're eight years old and your father is there and you have your whole life with him, and he comes back three months later and he's not the same person. It's like you look at him every day, but he's a stranger.
Starting point is 00:20:07 And how was he different in terms of... Oh, he was completely different. You know, he was... He lost a sense of fun. He wouldn't do anything. It's not like he wasn't a great athlete, but you know, before he might throw a ball around. That never happened again. Going to the football games or going to a hockey game intermittently. We used to have season tickets for the Canadians too. He used to tell me to take my sister. One of my sisters, he just had no desire to go. But what's that like for a kid to have lost somebody who's still right in
Starting point is 00:20:46 front of you? Oh, my shrink spent a lot of time on that, you know. He said it's devastating. It's very, very difficult to to rationalize for a kid. He told me it's worse than from a death. Your father's gone, you know it. You adapt to it. But here, your father's gone, but you can never adapt to it. You can never really deal with it, because every day you wake up, you look at him.
Starting point is 00:21:19 There he is. In case you were wondering, all these drugs, the induced coma, the shock treatments, none of it cured Charles Taney's problem, the nerve pain in his face. About 12 years later, he had another attack. And by that time, there was a drug called Tegretol. They put my father in Tegretol a week later. It was gone. So, how could this have been allowed to happen? And why?
Starting point is 00:21:57 Part of that answer lies with the man who was running the Allen, one of the world's most well-respected psychiatrists. He was a very, very impressive man, and I was told he was the best doctor in North America. I thought, how could he possibly ever take me for a patient? Who am I? I mean, this great man who's done all these marvelous things, and boy, I better work hard, and I better do everything that he tells me to do, and, you know, I don't want to lose this opportunity to get well. He was constantly on the go, rushing about, highly articulate, always seemed to know what he was doing,
Starting point is 00:22:40 commanding in his personal appearance and in his manner, self-assured and extremely ambitious. His ambition shone through just about everything else. He was an authoritarian, ruthless, power-hungry, nervous, tense, angry man. Not very nice. And he strode the halls like a giant. And people would say, oh, there but for God goes God. Everybody in the hospital was very much in awe of Dr. Cameron.
Starting point is 00:23:28 On the next episode of Brainwashed, the Nuremberg Code, secret CIA projects, and a doctor named Ewan Cameron. Would you describe the new treatment, Dr. Cameron? This is essentially an attempt to modify and improve our methods of carrying out psychotherapy. This type of recording, playing the recording back to the patient over and over again, sounds something like the conditioning technique in the Brave New World. Does it have any similarity at all to it or to communist brainwashing, for instance? No, it certainly doesn't. Brainwashed is written and produced by Lisa Ellenwood, Chris Oak, and me, Michelle Shepard.
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