FULL SEND PODCAST - 905 x Nelk Boys | Ep.7

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

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All right, boys, what's good? We got a bonus episode here, full send podcast. We're doing audio only for this one because we just launched on Apple, Apple Podcasts. You guys have been asking for the audio only and stuff like that. So we're starting to roll out on Apple every Wednesday as well, in addition to YouTube. We're pumped about this podcast. It's going crazy. The views are fucking insane.

The YouTube channel subscribers are going insane. It's at like $650,000 right now, which is insane. We didn't think it was going to take off. this quickly. So thanks for all the support. Seriously. Really, really enjoying doing this. And we got some big, big guests planned and coming on and stuff. So it's going to be cool. With this whole episode, it's kind of different. So I got the Oz God here with me, Austin. You guys know Austin. He shoots, he's the main creative director behind Nelk, Austin. Hey, what's up? How's it going? And we got, we got Lucas too. You guys know Lucas, obviously.

We were doing this just like, we don't even know. It's just like a bonus episode, we thought. So I was, I hit up 905 because I've seen him been, he's been doing a lot of podcasts recently. And he's just been doing like, yeah, he's been doing like a shit ton of podcasts, right? Yeah, he's on like a little press tour. Yeah. So I was like, fuck it. I thought, you know, everyone's, there's still like some speculation on like, you guys are so interested on what exactly went down why he left.

Like, obviously he's never going to be able to escape that question on why. he left and you know we talked about it on uh bob mennery's podcast that's when we initially like broke the news on what happened but i just thought it'd be cool this podcast is pretty much like a it's like a recorded catch up with 905 shooter and i think after this you guys will a hundred and fucking 30% know like exactly what happened and why he left for me one thing that just bothers me And obviously it's the internet, but I hate when people just, like, assume shit about us. So, like, at first, we weren't even going to break the news. Like, we didn't want to expose him for what he did, obviously, right?

But then there comes a point when it's like, everyone was saying, like, oh, Nino left you guys, because you guys bullied him. Like, they made it seem like it was Nino's choice to leave. A lot of speculation. A lot of speculation. So then that shit just like, like, I'm in bed reading that shit. And I'm just like, okay, I'm not letting, like, our brand and our, like channel get tarnished because of someone else's, in my opinion, lack of respect

for like our brand. So like that wasn't our fault, right? No. So I think that's the whole point of this, right? And like the reason I wanted to bring. But he also completely crossed the line. Yeah, yeah. But like the reason I wanted to bring Lucas and Austin on is because you guys will hear from

9-0. He's pulling up too. He's late, by the way. Just for reference. He's 16 minutes late. We're waiting for him. Just so, yeah. But yeah, I wanted to bring Lucas on because when Luke, when you were a part of Nelk,

that's when Nino first started, like, taking photos of us and stuff. So me, Lucas, and Nino have known each other since, like, I don't know. Like, he grew up in our area and he went to our high school. We weren't necessarily, like, friends with him in high school. But, like, he was always like that guy that was around, you know? Yeah. always around who's always around

just doing his thing you know and then after high school me and Lucas would always see him running around playing Pokemon Go

in our area right? Yeah yeah he's a big Pokemon Go well we'll ask him if he's still playing Pokemon

I bet you he's probably is that's what he's late that guy's probably got an impressive fucking Pocodex that guy's that guy's

PokedX if there's bitches if there's bitches that love Pokemon that guy's fucking he could send all the picks he wants there but yeah but me and lucas have known him for a while so i thought it'd be cool to have

lucas's perspective on this uh and then austin is you know he's he's been there for the behind the scenes of everything too so i think there's a lot of reason as to why nine o left it was probably would you say it was like 50 50 work ethic and then 50 50 kind of what he did i mean i'd say so it's it's kind of been like i don't know we we kind of knew that for a while the thing the dickpicks was just like the final straw yeah it was like that that was like the final boiling point where it's like being weird with women the whole time is just such a liability i mean i know but it's always like like it was like uh like did that actually like like like oh yeah it's nine oh like maybe kind of thing really he gives me the cruise just but yeah i mean yeah in in retrospect you kind of thing like

fuck but yeah i would say what you guys don't know is it's kind of 50 50 it was like it was also his work ethic that was just like he had no work ethic he was fucking lazy and that's something that like you want i saw adam 22 ask him though he's like well nine uh they said that like one time they were asking you to edit and like they caught you just watching wrestling clips yeah and that was one thing that nine know what i was doing well we're gonna call him we're not going to call him out today we're not going to be like confrontational it's just like you guys will just see like we don't even have to really be confrontational i think just i think the biggest thing is he just kind of took things for granted i think so too just because

he kind of came on at such an early level one of And, you know, he was kind of doing all the, or trying to do that. Like, I still, I still, to this day, don't really know what he was doing before I kind of came on. Or if, like, you guys were doing, like, the editing. I know, Kyle, you were doing a lot of editing. I know, Nino did not know. So he kind of comes across as, like, I'm this photographer, I'm this videographer. I edited.

But, dude, he didn't even know how to edit videos before he joined Nelke. Like, it's not like he was this, like, editor that, like, wanted to stick to his craft. Like, I taught him how to do subtitles. Like, he didn't even know how to do subtitles. And when he says he edited the videos, like, I would chop them and he would just, I think, yeah, he learned, like, how to export and subtitles and shit. But, Austin, you're the goat of all editors, you know, like, you know. It's funny. I think I was working with you guys for, like, maybe, like, a year or two years.

And then he left. And then I was getting DMs being like, yo, so does this mean that you're going to be editing all the videos? Yeah. People thought that he was the main editor. So when Austin came in and Austin pretty much took our videos from, like, zero to 100. and people are giving the credit to Naino. Oh my God, I couldn't imagine that. Yeah, that's, yeah.

Oh, whatever. But that's just the internet. It's so different for what you guys see. You know, I know, I love your work. It's different. There's so much behind the scenes that you guys don't see. I get it, though. Like, the fact that people kind of think that what they see, like, online is, like,

totally everything real. Like, I mean, like, what else do people have, like, anything to base? Yeah. Like, their opinion off them. But it is frustrating when you know the actual truth, and you're like, Fuck. Yeah, that's one thing that just pisses me off. I don't like to talk about shit,

but fuck, it starts to eat me up when I just see comments that just aren't true. Completely false. And they just, like, attack your character when it's like that, I just can't do that.

I know. We just put in too much work. And, yeah. So I think Nino's, yeah. Yeah. But yeah, so this is just kind of like an experimental episode. Fucking, I don't know, message us, tweet us.

Let us know, you guys think about this kind of thing where it's just like it's like a recorded like behind the scenes combo which is kind of cool it shows like the business of kind of what's going on behind the scenes we don't know how it's going to go so i mean see if you guys like it yeah we're on apple music too so nino's he's on his way up so make sure you guys subscribe to the podcast i think that's what it is on apple right no i think it's a apple podcast but they click subscribe right i'm not a fucking huge podcast fucking expert but yeah subscribe to the podcast it's going to be on apple every wednesday Spotify we're holding out for the bag let's go if caller daddy sold for

60 million you know we're we're a lot bigger than that so I don't know so 9-0 now is 23 minutes late he's 23 minutes late already 23 minutes what time is it 10 23 oh my god 10 minutes early I wonder what the excuse is going to be traffic Oh, my God, traffic. Yeah, it's like, buddy, it's fucking rush hour to Toronto. Like, if you're still using traffic as an excuse, like, think of a better excuse, you know? Like, be honest. Say your fucking morning, jerk ran late or some shit.

Don't fucking use traffic as an excuse. I'd rather the honesty. Yeah, you guys must love this one. Bob's not here. He doesn't have his passport so he couldn't get into Canada. So enjoy this episode without zippy, zappy Bob Menry. No more hate comments. I'm surprised.

Everyone hates him so much, though. I don't think it's everyone not. But yo, it's so weird. People hate just to hate, man. I saw my, I went to my dad's house last night and my uncle was there and he says he follows Bob Menry. And he's like, like, he's in his 50s. So I think he has like an older audience. Like every time someone comes up to me about Bob, they have like a way, he has like a way older audience.

Yeah. It's kind of cool. Yeah. Well, his content too is like very like shareable, right? Yeah. And like our shit like is, you know, I don't care what people say about Bob, man. I'll always find it funny. Bob's hilarious.

But then he's also a good guy. Great guy. But he's funny as fuck. He's fucking hilarious. In my opinion, too, like, okay, so this is my opinion too. It's like, it's like the Jersey Shore comparison, right? Like, everyone's going to talk shit about Snucky. Like, if Jersey Shore had comments, what are they going to comment?

Snooky's a fucking drunk, fat loser. Yeah. But when you see Snucky in real life, you're like, Snooky. Yeah. And like, same with like, I guess like ESPN. Like, don't people like shred Stephen A. Smith. shit but like I think you need yeah there's always got to be hate yeah there's always got to be the hate's not bad unless it's just like but you still have to have some likable people too

like I guess gambles now is like he's just like a villain too so like the villain the thing about gambles too is you guys got to know gambles in real life to like like everyone in real life thinks well they they like gambles but the comments that you guys comment about gambles are things that actually his best friends even say about him in real life like Gamble, shut the fuck up, you're so annoying. Like, Gamble, shut the fuck up. Your jokes suck. But he's just like, he's just like a perma troll.

I'm saying that on a day-to-day basis. We're literally sitting there watching the podcast. Kyle's editing and he's chopping it. He's trying to focus. Like, you see him laser focus, this is with one other editor. And Gamble's just sitting there asking you the most outrageous shit I've ever seen. And you're like, yo. He rarely gets on my nerves.

But when he does, like, I just want to strangle him and shit. Guys making too many X jokes and shit too. Yeah. He made one to me yesterday. No. Yeah, I was like, buddy, you're fucked. The late counter has risen to 27 minutes. 905 is going to be kind of shitty traffic.

Yeah, because I took a, I didn't take the QAW. Also, 9-0 blocked me. Did he block you, Lucas? Or just? Oh, no, no, no, he didn't block me. He unfollowed me. Yeah, he blocked Gambles. He unfollowed probably the whole squad.

But, like, he didn't unfollow certain people. He unfollowed you? He unfollowed everyone. He unfollowed, like, Jesse right away. He unfollowed, like, Steve shortly after his squad. because I wasn't taking I wasn't taking like shots at him I didn't either

like Jesse and Steve were like after we kicked them out they were like commenting all over his shit and like I kind of just like I spoke up because like I said I can't have those people the fans like thinking that he left because it was his choice

yeah so that's what chees me so I like I kind of get it though like it's kind of like if you break up with your ex like you don't want to see their shit yeah I get it I get it. I get it. Yeah, obviously get why he. He didn't want to see it. I mean, it must suck to fucking. The guy love traveling to more than anything. It's like the best job ever. Like, and then he just gets it stripped. Never take anything for granted, I guess. No, don't. Don't take it for granted, boys. It's the biggest fucking lesson ever. I know, especially when you join a new squad, you just got to fucking like work as hard as you possibly can and be an asset in every single way that you possibly can. Oh, I fucking hear him. I hear the shooter.

Sir, I know. 9-0-5 shooter. That's good. 26 minutes late, I know. Oh, he's got the Canadian tuxedo on. You're late, so he started without you. He's got the denim jacket on, the denim shorts. Good, good, no.

Honestly, traffic was absolutely. We'll talk about. Traffic. Good, baby. You know there's traffic. You know there's traffic always headed to Toronto at this time, no, no? Yeah, no one was after he was a car accident. Oh, okay.

Fuck all right. Literally? The car accident? Okay, car accident. That's not bad. It was literally on the 427, right when you're merging to the gardeners. I'm like, man, like, I'm going to, I know I'm going to be late. And I'm like, did you put it in a counter just to tell, like, how long I would be taking?

No, no, that's just always there. Oh. But no, it is. It's 29 minutes. I know. It's not my fault, okay? Yeah. Well, yeah.

I have a valid excuse. I guess car accident, that's, we'll take it. Yeah. I mean, what can I do? You could have said your morning jerk just ran late, you know? No, I left to like nine, like nine o'clock. That's not bad. Yeah, there is a lot of traffic.

So what's good? How you've been? I've been great, actually. I've just been busy. Busy, busy editing videos now on YouTube. You have your own YouTube channel, right? Yeah, yeah, self-titled YouTube channel. How's that been?

It's been great. You know, obviously it's been up and down just because, you know, I'm doing my own thing now. Like, I have no real viewership unless it's people who already know me. So it's very difficult, obviously, to grow your own channel if you're wanting to do your own sort of content that I'm pushing out, that I enjoy doing. Not so much doing it for other people now. So that's the difference with, I guess, how my channel is going now. And, you know, it's obviously a slow, slow grind that you got to do.

and we all been in the same position where you're kind of starting from scratch exactly right you're like the editor the filmer the everything right pretty much creative director just like basically wrapping everything into one person you know yeah um so yeah that's just like how i've been doing posting on tictock now which is really great um and then you know just posting instagram photos reels just typical stuff you know so are you still are you living at home still yeah yeah I mean, there's nothing wrong with that, you know? It's just like, obviously when you have no money, really, especially with- Are you making money at all?

Honestly, it's not. Like, how do you like, like, how's the business side, if you're like, how do you, are you making, like, because you used to do shoots before. Yeah. Well, so. I still follow you. Yeah. Thank you.

So I've been seeing what you're up to. Yeah. Well, so when I was during the pandemic, I was doing a merch drop. Like I did like a hoodie drop. Obviously, we sort of talked about that. And it did pretty well. The only problem was that I didn't really make much money back. So I was thinking to myself, well, do I want to continue doing this if I'm not really making an income myself personally?

Or do I just want to kind of lay off a bit until I feel like it's worth it? Or if it's not worth it, then I just want to do more of like brand shoots or campaigns or sort of. So that's what I mean. So how are you making any money right now? Oh, yeah, sorry. No, like, to be honest, like... It's slow, right? I can't do anything in Ontario.

Like, we don't know that Ontario was locked down for months now where I couldn't be in person with anybody to really do any shoot. So it's all digital. But are you making any money right now? No, no. Yeah, pretty much like, long story short, no. Like, you know, I was just getting benefits and that was really all I was doing, really. Did you save up a lot of money?

Yeah, I just save up as much. You know how to save your fucking money for sure. Oh, yeah. I mean, I think you bought a coffee in my four years. I think you bought me one coffee or whole friendship. So Nano knows how to save his fucking money. You got to tie this guy down with your coffee. Well, no, like, I just don't really go out much and buy stuff anymore,

especially with the pandemic. Nowadays, obviously, when you go out, you kind of have to. But yeah, I've just been saving my money as much as I can. Recently, I went to California for about three weeks. Yeah, it was. great, you know, didn't really... Who's that guy you were with? So it's funny, it's a long story short, but we actually met him at Petty Cash, and he

showed me this video, and I emailed him. I was like, hey, like, I see you do PR. I see you work with a lot of people, like, mutual friends that we have, and he just hit me back. It's like, hey, like, let's just start doing, like, some work. And we just went to California. He introduced me to a bunch of people that I met, and I did some, like, campaign work. You know, I shot for like Nasty Gal, for example, and I just did all these, like, hotels we stayed at. I got to shoot for them. And that was pretty much, like, a good experience for me. And that's how I met him just through an email.

And, yeah, he's like, you watched us before. He would tell us how, like, he would always see us going, traveling everywhere. And that's just how it started, really. Are you still locked up or no? No, no, not really. Not really? No. Because you had a girl, like right after you left, you got like locked.

No, not like right away. Obviously it took a bit of time, but, you know, I don't really put my relationships out there anymore. I'm more like a private person just because it's not really, I don't owe anyone any explanations of like my personal life or what I do, you know, outside of what I post and what I put on. online. Oh, I was just wondering, like, if you're... Yeah, yeah, I mean... So you're single? Yeah, yeah.

Are you seeing anyone, no? Um, yeah, I'm seeing somebody, but, you know... Pumping or no? Hmm? Pumping or no? Yeah, we'll leave it off the table there, you know? Are the pumps good? Um, you may never know.

Ooh. I don't really talk about that. You got a rotation? No, I don't have a little, or is the one girl, or? No, I'm, no, so, like, I don't really do that anymore. Like, I don't, like, go looking for women, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, like, cooking up with them one night and then, you know, leave type of stuff. It's more of like, I'm in that position where like I had to kind of tell myself, like,

do I kind of want to be living the same sort of lifestyle was and sort of following what I used to do or do I want to do something I want to truly do and be happy with it and actually enjoy life more, right? And doing and making decisions based and values based on like what I truly believe in, right? And so I want to kind of be more committed and, you know, sort of settle down more to one person. It's probably good. Yeah. What?

Wait, what? No, you're saying based on what you believe in like, we're saying with NELC, you couldn't do that or something? Like you're saying now. Well, so looking back. Exactly. So I feel like. What did NELC have to do with that? How did NELC affect that?

Well, like, I feel like, I feel like. That's a good question. No, no, no, it's a, it's a great question. because just the way you phrased it was kind of yeah because people want to know like oh like what you've been up to like do you still talk to them all the shit right but basically I felt like I was becoming a person I wasn't truly becoming because I was put into a position where I was kind of talked into becoming a different person and I felt like at the time that if I was kind of going against it sorry what do you mean by talked into like just kind of like sort of like sort of

groomed into becoming like a frat boy partier sort of binge drinker type of stuff where like you know it felt cool to sort of do that lifestyle right and i was never really accustomed to that sort of lifestyle before so coming into like the nilk situation and kind of being exposed to all of that it was so new to me right so i wasn't yeah but i feel like at the same time like you were on there since kind of day one right no no i wouldn't say day one But I get what you're saying, I mean, that probably, I'm sure that can, I mean, I definitely feel the same way is that like, you know, obviously, you know, it's obviously we don't drink as much as people probably think we do, right? People think we fucking wake up and have eggs in a fucking rona and shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. So I get what you're saying about how you were thrown in the mix. And yeah, definitely, you're definitely, you do stuff for content that, you know, is beneficial that you wouldn't normally do. So I think that was definitely something. for me and probably everyone too right yeah of course and so i'm not saying like i'm not saying like what i'm saying is that like it was just like not something i was used to austin so like it was

kind of like i had to kind of get myself used to it and sort of uh adjust to the lifestyle which um felt like after a bit of time wasn't so much for me you know um and that's like the thing like but like in the moment it seemed like you're of course like loving everything of course and you look back and say, and I think that's one, I think that's one thing that I always tried to tell you, too. Of course. Was that, like, I feel like I pulled you aside multiple times. And I'm not just referring to, like, the dick pick shit. It was just, like, everything.

Like, I've been seeing you doing a lot of podcasts now, too. Yeah, yeah. And I think the one thing that, like, you should know is, like, too, it's like, I feel like when you started behind the scenes. Yeah. I think there was, like, a lot of shit you were doing behind the scenes that, like, if you wanted to be, like, an Oz God or a D-Tom. Like, if you wanted to be, like, like, if you wanted to be. behind the scenes yeah there was certain things that like you gotta fucking do when you're behind the scenes yeah yeah and i feel like i feel like you did want to be on camera like i feel like it

wasn't just us that pushed you to be on camera like i disagree with that i think it was like you were doing your editing and stuff like that and like sure like we started putting you on camera people loved it so like we wanted you on camera but i think like a lot of the times too like if me and jesse would get recognized like you would i'd honestly remember you saying like yo like no one fucking cares about me like yeah i don't i don't get recognized as much as you guys like it seemed like you kind of like wanted to be on camera too yeah so i mean i've i've talked about before and you're right like at the time uh i had sort of like ego trip which i didn't fully acknowledge or accept at the time you're an ego trip of course of course and and that's the

thing like a lot of people sort of get sucked into having an ego trip um when they sort of rise to the top of the industry that they're in, right? And I could admit that, you know, I made so many mistakes where I was a bad person. And, you know, like, it takes a lot of time for me to really sort of admit to that. And yeah, it's true. Like, I was a really shitty person, you know? I guess the problem is, like, we've tried so many times almost to get you to understand that in the moment.

And no matter what we did or, like, said, you just wouldn't believe anything. Like, you wouldn't, you would just ignore us to say, we're like you think we're like stupid or something the way we talk to you like you just totally ignore us you're right you're right that's what bothers me the most is like you just couldn't do it well like well it was happening because you could have been like you could have been something huge probably you know yeah you're right and it's like I think the same time it's like maybe it's just not cut out for everyone of course and I do I do think after all that's happened I personally think that it's like I mean you have two directions you can either beat yourself up about it and

just hate yourself or you can like someone admit to what you're doing wrong and just have a positive outlook and be like I mean what do you want Nana to do right he's like he's moving on and shit but that's one thing I wanted to say is that like I think the way you've been talking about it how it's just like we kind of forced you to be on camera and you wanted to edit was like not really true yeah I think there was a lot of stuff like like like what you're doing now I'm sure like you have to do it like when you're like the editor and all that but like you know there was certain times where like we'd ask you to edit and you'd be like sleeping or taking naps or like even Adam 22 said like we'd catch you watching like

like it's crunch time like you're supposed to be grinding and we catch you and you're watching fucking wrestling clips or you're watching basketball highlights and then it's like I come up to you like what the fuck like what you do and like you got to like it's crunch time right now like I don't know if you have anything to say with that well I think the frustrating part too on that end was kind of like you know we're if we're a huge team of people and we work seven days a week, especially like back when we were living at the cloud house and stuff, right? So like, you know, when we'd be pulling like the all-nighters to try to get these videos done and be like, yo, Nino, can you jump on subs?

Like, oh, ha. You'd throw a hissy fit about it sometimes, right? Yeah, you know why? It's because like, and it's just, it's funny when we go back and look at this because, like, we could kind of laugh and joke a bit, but like, obviously, you know, it was a serious time. And I felt like at the time, like, I was just starting to lose that, that power. for for you know being you know you like kind of took it for granted a bit yeah i i did and i could i could fully admit that i did take for granted and obviously looking back i could have done things

differently where i could have still been there or i could have just decided on my own maybe it was time to like kind of mutually like i'll quit right that that would have been obviously the most like decent way of going out if i chose to right obviously i didn't have a choice so that's the question but so you were debating quitting that whole time like I guess when you don't know if I believe that when we were in Europe I feel like just kind of like the way I was that's like when we started doing more of the skits and shit right like you and Steve and all that yeah and that that that's but I think from our point of view is like like like you said if you wanted to be behind the scenes like for me it was like 9-0 is fucking the dog behind

the scenes he's complaining when we ask him to edit he's fucking fucking off during the edit remember in Europe like you're in charge of the cameras you left the cameras on the fucking dashboard lost like 10k and we lost $10,000 worth of cameras yeah and you didn't even say sorry so it's just like for me as if like I considered you a friend too so I was like yo I'm not just going to hang this guy out to dry but like he's got to have some asset here so I mean we talked and it's just like yeah yo 9-0 is he's off the edits like we've given him enough chances we've told him he has to edit we don't want to have someone complaining so it's like we tried to help you by saying like yo if this

guy still wants to make money and we don't want to send him back home to Canada, he's got to be on camera because that's the only, there's the, you kind of left us with no option. Yeah, I guess, I guess too there was kind of like Kyle obviously wanted you to be more of like a character on camera, but then, you know, on the back end of things when it came to editing, you also didn't really want to do that either. So it was kind of like you're like in between. I think that's something you would say. It's like, yo, like if he wants to be in this, he's got to be a character. Like, get the fuck out of my way. Yeah. Like kind of thing. Like we got to, we got to, we got to. We got to. We got. got to have people we can rely on well yeah of course especially like we're traveling across the world right so like when you're traveling across the world and you're trying to like make these fucking edits every single week like everybody on the team needs to be like grinding and like doing their shit you know but i i think that that to me was the most frustrating thing you know yeah and and yeah i'm sorry for everything you know obviously there's nothing that can be done to change at all um the only thing i could say is that we can move forward with um as a resolution somehow, if possible, if not, that's okay, you know, I've...

Well, I mean, we had, we were having you here. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So it's never, like, the only reason I ever said shit and, like, I don't think I ever, like, left any, like, comments or, like, on your Instagram or, like, I never made a top comment on NELC, like, maybe, like, anyone else in NELC did. The only thing I told them before you came that makes me mad is because you know, you know probably of anyone how much I care about NELC and how much work I put in, right? Like, you've seen it, too, right?

So the only thing that makes me mad and why I even had to speak up, because I never even wanted to tell anyone anything, right? But is that people kind of started attacking us for it and blaming us for it and saying like, oh, like Kyle's a fucking asshole, like they just like bullied him or they just like 9-0 quit. Like so like when people attack me and attack the brand, that's something that like I try and then it just builds up and it's like I just have to speak my mind. Yeah, I have to tell my truth at least.

Yeah, I fear you because that's the same thing what I'm going through. like you're i was in i'm in a position as well where people want answers people want to know the truth and all that and it's like i've given the truth but people still want to know more and it's like how much more can we possibly give without actually having to give personal details about it right and i said it before like people ask me all the time like do you do not like them i do you hate them i say no i don't hate anyone i don't dislike them it's like we have you have you talked to anyone else in knuck um not really like respectfully like i just not steve i just yeah that's the thing though okay that's that's another reason why is because i decided to just disconnect from all you and it's

something personal i get i totally understood that we we talked about that before you came here too like it's kind of like breaking up with the next like the last thing you want to see is like us traveling and fuck no that's what i mean like people think i hate you guys because like i unfollowed you or i did this and all that it's not the reason the reason was the reason was because I want at the time I was feeling a bit sad and obviously I was a bit hurt so I wanted to disconnect myself from anyone who sort of is in it or is associated with now because it's like I don't want to be seeing that daily and like being reminded of like it was kind of delayed though I think you unfollowed me like a month or two ago uh honestly I you unfollowed the Oz God

yeah that that that one let the bit of a stay I get me or I get I get I get Steve I get Jesse, me, I was like, oh, I kept the follow for a while, though, right? I mean, he still did. Oh, what? No, no, I'm saying you didn't unfollow me right away. No, you know why? I think Steve you unfollowed right away. Well, yeah, there was certain people.

Jesse was probably second. There was certain people that I hung on to it for a little bit. Yeah, there was certain people where I just kind of like, you know, I felt like they just kind of like did me wrong personally. I'm not going to disclose. I feel like you had a lot of built up emotions behind it. Yo, no, I know. I think if there's like, if you want to kind of be done. with like all this like hey what happened here like this is the podcast to do it on of course and

right that's why that's why i told them before you came is this is just like like we didn't have no notes it was just like a recorded like ketchup yeah i feel like this is this is this is if anyone's listening i feel like this is the the best way for you to kind of this is the end of just squash everything like i don't want to obviously people are going to be asking more and more questions because i mean not you're always going to get it of course of course not everyone's going to listen on Apple Podcasts, whatever, right? But I feel like this is sort of the end of it, hopefully, right? Where people could finally lay it to rest and be, like, moving on because it's been almost

two years, right? And the reason why I just kind of decided to do it recently, like unfollow everybody, like it's not because I was out of spite or anything. It's just more of like, do I have any sort of personal connection to these people anymore? But then why did you follow me? back like two days ago you know why because i just thought about it i'm like you know what like austin didn't do anything wrong to me i feel bad that i did because obviously it shouldn't take anything personal on on sort of social media sure and at the same time i felt like you know what

like i did make a mistake of you know sort of slapping the wrong people in the face you know and i i will admit that was wrong to me to like kind of sort of burn that bridge and the reason why I reached out to you is because I wanted to make sure that like I wasn't being a bad person by like just completely ignoring you and like being an awkward position like talking to you right now but you reached out to me like yesterday though

like right before you came on. I think it's because I hit nine oh no no no I know it's just like that's the thing I wasn't sure I don't know what goes on I just thought it'd be I thought people would want to hear and I've seen you've obviously been to how many podcasts have you done well press tour because I'm a potty I think, like, well, since last year, I did, like, seven.

But April is when I did my very first one, like, in over a year. Because the one I did... I saw Big Dawes. Yeah. And I saw some clips on your Instagram of that, the Toronto podcast. Yeah, Money Buys Happiness. It's like a local podcast. I kind of just told my backstory of, like...

Are those guys brothers? No, no, no. They're just co-workers. Yeah, they're just friends. And... That's a cool one. Yeah, yeah. It's really cool.

A lot of, you know, sort of people maybe... may you may not know of and I kind of just like told my story of like the upbringing like what I had to go through before meeting you guys what I had to deal with in terms of bullying like depression suicide you know so leading up up to that like it was just like a sort of my return to like kind of like letting people know what I've been up to since like I did before you were famous interview with Michael, like March of like 2020 or some shit like that. Oh, that one, yeah. And that was right before the pandemic.

So it was like kind of funny, like, oh, everything I basically said, like kind of just went away because COVID happened. I couldn't do anything for about a year. And then, yeah, the No Jumper I did. Did another podcast in Toronto again. So I've been, yeah, I've been doing podcasts because it's just fun. Like I enjoy doing podcasts. I enjoy, like, talking about conversations. Would you ever say your own podcast?

That's really difficult to say because it's a lot of time. It's a lot of investment to really put into that in production. And, you know, you got to have a real team for that, you know. So for me, it's, it's not really something I would look forward to kind of starting myself right now. Not really. Why? Do you have something you want to ask? I was just thinking it's a little more off topic, but, uh,

if you could go back in time like back to the knelt days do you think you can handle things differently now or do you think you still have those moments where I think you could I feel like but but like I mean there's no way to learn that shit without going through it

exactly yeah I think for you too it was like like we officially hired you and then a week later you were in a fucking the clout house so it was like zero to 100 as opposed to like

with me it was like such a It still is a slow, it's just like, it's been. A slow rise. It's been, the channel was made, I made the channel in 2010. Yeah, I remember that. But, like, it's been like, I don't even know how long since we actually said, like, you know, it's probably been like seven or eight years. So for me, it's been such a slow grind.

But for you, it's like, quit Walmart next weekend. I'm walking up the stairs and Summer Ray's asses fucking strolling down the stairs. And Alyssa Violet's walking out in her fucking bikini and shit. You know what I mean? Yeah. So it's like, it's a lot to have. handle for anyone. There's a lot to handle for me. To answer your question, Lucas, I'm not sure because it's hard to, I don't like to look at the past so much and say what if and all that

because it is what it is. It happened. I've sort of moved on from that. And now as a person, I've sort of matured more and grew and learned more about myself as a self-growth. And not saying that I would ever come back because I just don't feel like it's for me. If I was to, let's say, come back, I don't know, someday, I feel like it would be different in terms of how I handle myself, how I handle other people around me and how I do my job and how I would assess everything, you know, with a more clear-minded and not be so egotistical and so prideful of myself and how this false sense of confidence that I gave to myself. right because of all the fame and followers and exposure i got right and i just feel like i don't know

i'm in a happier place now you know yeah i don't think that would ever be an option for us obviously it's because i feel that i mean i guess when we get into that too it's just like you know how sensitive that shit is now too right with like with girls and stuff like that and like i feel like that was one thing that I mean I feel like people think that was like the only reason as to why you left but I think I mean there was definitely the work ethic too I guess was like it was like 50 50 but that was kind of like the dick pick shit was just like it was like the last straw and I was trying to tell you I remember specific times I was like when you when like I would find out about it right because it was like again this was my thing I feel like I gave you an opportunity

you quit your job at Walmart I brought you to L.A like I feel like I was giving you a really good opportunity so then when I'd like a girl would come up to me at a party randomly and like out of nowhere I would just hear that and they'd be like yo like just this happened like like it like it was kind of weird yeah and like for me that's just like embarrassing because it's like I don't really agree with that right like dick picks like I've I've said before is nothing wrong with the dick pick but when a girl is unsolicited unwanted it's different right yeah but but and especially when a girl says like I like I would go up to you and I'd be like yo don't do this like I'd pull you aside one-on-one, and I'd be like, don't do this.

The girl literally just told me, like, she doesn't like it. And then I'd find out, like, you did it again. Yeah. So I was just like, so then I'd have another talk with you, and I'd be like, yo, bro, you got to stop. Like, the girl just doesn't like it. And it was just like, I would hear it from so many different people. And I remember, I think we've, like, talked to you and, like, we tried one-on-one. We tried in a group setting.

Yeah. We tried, like, I tried getting mad. I tried being nice. I tried, like, I feel like I was just, like, trying to. just tell you and I told you I was like bro if you don't stop this you are going to end up on drama alert like I told you that you're right and I was like because it's just like I don't think you realized how much you know and I think it's good that it's not in the spotlight too because I don't know what else is fucking out there right like who knows what else people I don't

know yeah like now we're targets yeah of course now we're like targets right people are gonna say shit about us just to fucking say shit about yeah and that's like that's the culture nowadays like that people have the free will to say anything and and and and, you know, not really be responsible for it, right? So I understand where you're coming from. And this was before. No, even also, sorry, just to cut you off there. But now, like, nowadays, even with girls and stuff,

do you feel like you handle yourself a lot better or do you still feel like... Yeah. You still, you have control of, like, what you do and how you act with girls now, you think? Of course. Like, I have a more clear mind of how I handle myself. Because even, like, just another note on that, even, like, when she's talking about, like, whatever with girls, like, I've also seen, like, screenshots and I'm not trying to like put you under the gun but I've seen screenshots of like you message a girl

then you message a girl again yeah it then again then like six or seven messages I know what you're talking about and to kind of clear that up I just hope I just want you to learn that's not just one girl that's not yeah yeah I just declare that situation I think I know what you're talking about she actually deleted her messages and then not that not that not that no no just any girl oh okay well I mean I'm not sure what you're referring to but are you able to take a hint now at this point like if a girl ignores you that she's not of course yeah Yeah, yeah, like, I've learned my lesson, and I've taken so much time. I think my rule is, if she doesn't respond once, try one more time.

And if she doesn't respond again, I personally take that as a fuck you. I take it personally. I'm like, all right, fuck you, bitch. Like, I'm just going to be motivated now and fucking you're going to regret it. Yeah, yeah. So then, yeah, you never want to get into number three and then number four, five, six, seven, ten, twenty. I think you've set record numbers. Yeah, not in a good way.

You might have gone into the triple digits. Holy tits, I know. Triple digits? With what? Like messages? Unresconded messages? Maybe. I don't know.

Some calls on there too. So, so you're thinking of speaking of women, like, there's a few things that, like, I want to also, like, squash as well. Because there's so many rumors that people like to throw out there in the internet. And I'll tell you this right now, and whatever happened, like, whatever happened, like, in the past is done. but what I will say, I've never, ever done anything physically with anyone's sister. That's the one thing that people keep bringing up as me. I don't know if it's a joke or they're trolling or they're serious, but never have I ever done anything. And people keep saying like, oh, like, you smash Jesse's sister.

I'm like, I never even met her. You would smash you. You followed her, right? No. You followed Kyle's sister. Yeah. Because I met her. Yeah, no, that's fun.

And I think I think you also DMed my sister happy birthday. I was just being nice I know have you ever talked to my sisters no no but I did see your sister one time at a club oh shit that's the only time that's worse but that's one thing like people people keep like bringing up the whole like

yo did you like I heard you smash your sister like that's not true and and then people always bring up like do you not like them that's not true I respect you obviously all individually and as a group I respect to what you're doing and how you're like how you're doing business with people

Do you see Steve buy your merch? Yeah, I saw that, yeah. How much did he buy? I don't know, like a lot. I don't know, like a hoodie and like two shares. No, no, no. I think he might have bought like 20 pieces. No, no, no, no.

It was under one name and it was like three pieces. That was like when he wasn't as much of a baller. Oh, now he's buying like fucking Richard Millies every day. Yeah. Nah, but. And then another thing was like, oh, with Celine, I'm like, that's not true. Like, oh, did you smash? I heard you were like, you were drunk and you snobing.

smashed her. I'm like, no. Selena? Yeah, that's what people keep like throwing on the internet.

I'm like, that's not true either. Like, never once was ever like, with her. I was never drunk around her. Like, she was always with Steve

doing her own thing with him. Like, I barely saw her unless she went to get food or something. And that was really it. You know, so I just wanted to squash that as well. Like, so you didn't?

No. Okay. Like, why would I? Like, for me, regardless, it's like I would never, you know, get into somebody's relationship like that

and like ruin it in a way like I would not do that like regardless of how I was whether it's now or before I would not interfere I'm not gonna lie to you man I'm gonna be straight up here because it's been like a lot of built up stuff

and over the time like we've had calls with you and it's been so frustrating talking to you and trying to explain shit yeah you remember the calls like I don't know yeah you and Lucas had your own talks one on one without and I would try to help you out so much because it frustrated me so much but yeah I'd be straight up I fucking I hated

the old 9-0 man that 9-0 and that was rage days like those dude the way you fucking act it was ridiculous

of course and I and that was a terrible person I could admit that I was a lot for someone that's like

I can understand it's just tough it's not for everyone right when people blow like that's the one thing that really bothers me

when people start to get a following and they start to act different yeah yeah like that pisses me off so much

it's actually like it actually drives me insane I fear you like it fucking drives me insane even now like I have a hundred

whatever thousand followers on Instagram. I look at it like it's fucking nothing. It is nothing. But I will always look at it like, even if I have a 500 kids. Yeah, exactly. And the funny thing is that...

I'm saying even if I have a million, I would still look at myself as it's nothing. And the funny thing is that I said this before and I say it again. Like, I'm losing followers every day because of like either it's nalculated or because I posted photos from a protest in San Diego about the Palestinian

and people were just like calling me anti-Semitic and like a terrorist. And like 100% of your followers are from like Delk right so um they're like probably looking for like yeah i would say like 90% i'm not sure like 98 like 99 point i don't know i don't know but i mean yeah like majority of them like i would say yeah like 95% or like male between the ages of 16 to 25 probably you know so i can understand but i don't know it's it's um i just hope that moving forward you know in a perfect world it would kind of stop but I know it won't.

Well now when people ask why'd you leave or what happened we can just be like just watch a podcast just listening to the podcast. Another question I got for you back to like the way I didn't know much I didn't know much about it.

It is dope though because like we haven't talked about this really. I don't know much about the work ethic side of like things I didn't know yeah so I just thought it was like dick pick or whatever whatever it was obviously we just talked about it. I think that's what

Work ethic So I heard a story for the first time I heard you guys talking about a little bit I heard And this is where I kind of think it ties together But I heard Adrian one night Before he was with Nielke He was in the club

He was working on a club Oh yeah He told me the story He went up to 9-0 He's like hey do you need What's his position? What would you call him? He's like hey

He can enter You need a filmer You need a filmer slash editor And I was like No And then later on that night He said he managed to get to Kyle

Before he left the club And Kyle said DM me And then he came back on So now I'm thinking like Were you unmotivated also Because you were there from the beginning Kind of thing like started editing And then all you got the guys like

As God coming in And Adrian come Did that make you very unmotivated I feel like that gave you that edge I know I will say Nino was very protective of Nelk Like when someone comes With someone a new

newcomer would come around. Oh, yeah. Nino was protective of Nelk. But if they fucked around, like Nino would get cheese at them. I feel like, I don't know, there's always like an enforcer within a group,

like group setting. So like, how would it go like you in force? No, no, like, not that way. Not in the way.

I feel like for me, like, if, if, like, I feel like for me, like at the time, like you could,

I guess you could all kind of relate. Like, if there was like that one person that you didn't want to deal with, I would be that person to be like, let them, like, leave them alone. sort of right like because you you guys were like in a position where like you don't want like

have confrontations or whatever with wait what like with fans and all that like I say like fans came up to you guys and like said like weird like stuff right like there would have to be one person within a group to kind of like tell them like leave us like leave us alone you know i think that was one thing too i forgot is another reason that used to piss me off was i feel like the lack of respect for the fans sometimes which i get while you're in the position like sometimes they'd just be like like they'd say the same shit to you or like where's the limes like same shit but like I think one thing that was like right around that time I guess we could tell it's when we were in a Biza right yeah oh yeah yeah so I could tell you from my perspective so

we're in a Biza I mean it's been an ongoing thing the work ethic the blah blah blah blah the dick picks blah blah and then we yeah this behind the scenes so it's been building up already you know yeah yeah and then we flew those fans out yeah yeah Biza so we had four fans I believe it was four Yeah two groups And I think like I don't know what happened or something I think someone took your charger or some shit You were cheesed about it

And you were You literally didn't talk to the fans The whole fucking trip To the point where like they'd pull They pulled us aside and they're like yo does Nino like not like us Like what's what's what's gone What's wrong with them like So it's just like a lack of respect for like

Yeah Like the fans too like we're trying to bring them out We're showing them this great time And like you had a response responsibility too as like you know as a part of nilk to like you know at least show them a good time yeah and that's one thing that i was like so we were already like i remember like right we were just you're just cheese over a fucking charger i think it was over a charger but whatever it is certain shit would tick you off and you'd be cheese for like three days i feel like and then i finally got that

message like that the one that whatever went like a little viral or whatever and when i saw that I knew it was like, all right, this is going to get out. Yeah. Like, I knew. Ernie showed it to me that someone had DM'd it. And I was like, yo, that's going to get out. Like, it's going to get out. And I was like, honestly, like, it wasn't just to protect the brand.

Like, I made it clear to you that I wasn't cool with that shit. Yeah. Like, I didn't really agree with it. So, like, it was just, that was the decision where it was like, this is the final straw. The dick pick thing was just the final straw. That was where it's like, all right, I just feel like, 9-0. I've tried everything. Group setting one-on-one is just like, I just feel like he just doesn't respect what we have going on.

Yeah. And honestly, I respect your decision because it's, it happened in a weird way. It happened, everything, I believe the whole saying, like, everything happens for a reason. And like, it really did teach me a life lesson in general of how I should now move forward with my life, how I should be, and how I should treat. people and you know another reason why is because it's one book that I read that really kind of made me like change my entire life how I you know just perspectives on everything and you know what I should do now how I should be a good person now and you know make people sort of see that I'm becoming a different person I'm not the same person that they saw on NELC or you know

the last time they saw me that's my my whole goal is just kind of change the perspective and rewrite the narrative of this is a bad person, this guy is only known because of NELC. And that's true. Like, I was known because of NELC. I will agree with that. Now, moving forward,

I just want people to see me doing my own thing, creating content for myself, traveling, doing my own thing, you know, and still living a normal life, you know?

Now, you know, moving forward, I just want to make sure that, you know, we're still friends. Yeah. That's that's my goal is not to like have enemies no more and you know I think it's good that I mean you have two options shut the fuck down be depressed and fucking whatever or at least own up to your mistakes that's what I thought was pretty good on the no jumper one is how you at least admitted it yeah yeah the like the dick pick shit and then I think that's the only reason I wanted to really bring you on to is to tell you and to clear it up to that was like it wasn't just that it was like that was like the final straw yeah So I think as long as you realize, too, and you can improve and be like, yo, like, if I ever get another opportunity like that, like, I got to fucking work my ass off.

Yeah. Like, if you got a photography gig for fucking some music video shoot and, like, you have the opportunity to become someone's, like, personal photographer, like, you got to fucking grind. Yeah. Yeah. Right? Like, you got to, like, you got to wake up early. You got to, like, be an asset in everywhere you can. Like, take the photos of the artist, figure out how to get an app to send it to your phone right away.

fucking take the photos and then 30 minutes later be like yo turn on your air drop I'll send you the photos right now yeah I think like shit like that like you just got to be like you just got that's because that's what I look for too is like when someone's just an asset and they just make like my life easier and they make it easier for us to like get content because my job is to post content so if someone makes that job easier for me to like get content that's what it's like yo this person's a fucking like asset like this person's dope yeah what you saying Austin no I I was just saying like just kind of based on like what we were talking about too like the one piece of advice I think I would say to you just like with you like kind of

doing your own shit now is like just don't make excuses because like even like being here like yeah I think even COVID's an excuse but like anything is an excuse you either get it done or you don't get it done yeah yeah I guess COVID that could be controversial excuse yeah it's like I feel like if you're really passionate about something and like to anybody listening, like, if you're passionate about something, you just got like, you fucking do it. Find a way. So speaking of that. People make excuses, I think, to make themselves feel better. So, so the two things I did by myself was to obviously, a couple of things was obviously be responsible and accept my faults.

One was not to make excuses, which you're right. Another was to say, don't try. I've taken the word try on my vocabulary because it's like. Like, if you're just telling yourself you're going to try, you're just basically procrastinating on doing that task. If I just tell myself, I'm going to do it, then I will tell myself, I'm going to do this. Book Club on Monday. Gym on Tuesday. Date night on Wednesday.

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I think one thing we were talking to Torrey Lane's about, too, is you could be the best, like, rapper, have the best music. But, like, if you're not finding a way now with social media to make people, like, go. to your page for like I feel like there has to be another reason as to why like there's got to be something that attracts you like if you're a photographer yeah what separates you from like another photographer is it your personality is it like in the videos I feel like there's so many photographers out there of course yeah so how are you gonna what's going to make someone share your photo because everything's about shares now I feel like when you post something what's going to make them share i feel like for me i one thing i would want to share would be like my

traveling photos whether it be a lens no but what's going to make someone be like yo i got to show this photo to someone else hmm because that's how you grow yeah so with knellk it's oh this is funny i want to share it to someone yeah but like with your photos you got to think of a way like you got to brand yourself in a certain way like i would say i mean i told you before like you could take photos of like I guess you don't want to do it though I mean yeah one's like you could take photos of hot girls and that's the reason that's like I guess a lot of people do that though right but like no I know but like when when when when I was on the squad like you're like yo like let's let's make it like you're always posing with hot girls and like that kind of like feeds to the

character right right yeah yeah um that's a tough question but something you should think about I feel like and I think personally a lot of things a lot of things people do wrong in Toronto is, I think it's cool to rep Toronto, but making it all about Toronto is way too niche. Yeah. It's too niche. Because you run out of shit. That's what, I feel like, that's what all these people do wrong. They just

they, they like, they like rep Toronto, but you got to get out of Toronto and you got to like, you know, you got to expand a bit. I think you'd be dope as like someone's, I think now that you've learned a lot, you could maybe be someone's like an artist's like photographer. That's what I was thinking like taking photos at festivals. Maybe you should do that. Why don't you DM?

like a ton of people and send a message and just be like yeah i'll do it for free like just be like i'll show up and i'll do it for free yeah imagine you got in with an artist that like has 50k right now and then they they blew up i'm i or some shit like right like i've said to myself i'm willing to even do a free shoot that'd be good for you a free shoot for an artist because you should do several free shoots yeah yeah yeah that's that's the kind of what i was talking about it's like just to like go do one shoot that's kind of like on the lazier side of things don't even bring up money no no that's the thing like i've i've realized now don't really bring up money when it's come somebody who that you actually respect enough where you don't need money and you just want that mutual respect

and that friendship and that relationship that you could create with them and that's the one thing that i sort of value more when it comes to those type of people within an industry that is at the top of their industry or at least like top 10 or somebody that respects a lot right like toy lanes for example or i don't know post malone or those type of artists i respect enough or i don't really want money from them well because well because at the end of the day like no one like really owes you anything right of course like like you got to like earn their respect and like kind of like do that kind of shit yeah exactly and were you saying like you wouldn't ask tory lanes and them for money no but do you see what kyle's saying but if you go after someone smaller

and they blow up but you don't ask them for money at the beginning yeah probably like what you did with milk kind of right yeah yeah yeah well yeah

like I've I've I've shared my story before how like start for free make a little bit of money and then yeah and it's funny because

I was just thinking about this recently that photo your profile picture on Instagram you haven't changed he hasn't changed in five years because what am I going to change it to

I know I feel like that's such a big tag it's the one we did the Lucas and Kyle oh that's your photo yeah oh shit At Lisgar. Maybe change it. I just can't.

No, but it was funny. It's like, I just don't know what to change it to it. Because after five years, I was like, huh. That's a funny photo. It's the same photo that he's had. No, no, no, no, no, he changed it. That's what? I used that photo a lot, though.

Yeah, yeah. Like the one of the wall? Yeah, yeah. Like this? Those are some different. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, and then we did a, we did a photo shoot one time for your birthday. Do you remember that?

Yeah. Yeah. That was your solo. Yeah. The Hollister shirt Or Abercrombie No it was No it was a hillfriker

It was a green hellfriker I still remember that It was a cool day Yeah But I don't know Like some people don't realize That like back in the day It was like five years ago

Like I took photos to you guys for free I was willing to do it I didn't care because it was a friendship Sort of It was a friendly sort of And it's not like we had money To fucking fish out right We were just fucking around

And every time we'd see you though It'd be like He'd ask us about the videos and shit. Yeah, yeah, because people don't realize I was a fan. I was a fan watching it. I'm like, holy shit. Like, this is actually funny. Like, I kind of want to do what they're doing.

So you're not watching the videos no more at all? No, honestly. Would you start watching again? It's nothing personal. No, obviously. But now that we're cool. You probably miss it a little bit. I did.

So, okay, I did listen to the Dana White episode. What did you think of the podcast? It was good. The production was really good. The way that was set up, the way that you had them. mics um even this setup right now we're gonna use these ones now because people are complaining yeah yeah because it's like a scratchy i like these mics but like it's it's like because now it's it's audio only so we need good audio yeah yeah um and i i think i watched the um thore lanes

oh the g the when um when adrian and i think it was nick and gave got that gta uh felony charge it's like you love that shit like gta in real life wait wait so so you know who nick is but you don't watch the vids. I know of him through photos. Oh, busted. I just know it's known through the video. And then... No, I mean, like, because I was kind of just curious.

And then obviously the one video I did watch was the one where people don't know this. We did an interview and I was posted to your full send club. Oh, right, right, right. But then that's... I watched the video just to kind of see... You saw how many dislikes it got? yeah yeah well i honestly i had no opinion there was like neutral neutral boundary for me because it's

like well that wasn't the way to do it this is the way to do it yeah and and i feel like to be fair i feel like not enough time passed too to be fair yes it was not enough time it was like a year and to be fair like people were obviously disappointed because they were expecting me to be in the video which i could see from their perspective why they would be mad of course and i could see from your perspective, why you would sort of do that because you want to gain attraction for your full standing club, which is understandable

when it comes to a business side, right? Yeah, we fucked that one up. I don't sort of dislike in there, too. I didn't fucking worse skits. And it was like the whole video was like skits and like... I fucking miss the skits though, man. I hate to say it, but I do this. Well, some skits were funny.

Yeah. But like... Yeah, no more. That one was fucking trash. Yeah, that was a bad one. Is skits a possible? thing I'm I'm not I'm not taking responsibility for that one either no but um yeah and then like when I came to that stuff it's like I I and I oh that another thing I was bringing up like I never once

like for the first couple months never said anything because it was not my responsibility I didn't owe anyone an explanation to really well there's nothing you could really say it and and I didn't want to because out of respect for you guys and as a company I didn't want to disrespect your name and say anything because... I feel like you kind of did owe an explanation. What could you have said? Sorry? What could you have said?

I mean, there's so many things that, like, people want answers to, which I just never gave, right? And I, you know, I can't think up top of my head. That's why I feel like you owed an explanation in a way. In a way, yes. On your behalf. But... For noakes sake and all that they've done, right? What people were sort of asking or demanding for me was expose them, like, talk bad about them,

and I never gave into it because it's not my... my responsibility do that. Like, I shouldn't do that because I'm just going to be burning a bridge if I talked. Because you know, you also know what's right at the end of the day, right? Yeah, yeah. And I have a good conscious where I'm not going to disrespect the name that helped me get to where I am. And as a friend. That's what I mean, though.

What could you, like, what are you saying that we did? Nothing, nothing wrong. Like, I'm just saying that, like, if people wanted answers, like, I can't really, I don't have anything to say. like um in terms of bad things you know it's not something i would ever say and even if i had something in my mind i can't think of anything and that's just being being honest like i have nothing bad to say about you guys you know that's one one question i had um is you know this whole podcast we've been talking about like how this lifestyle is not for everybody and like that's totally understandable.

But like, what's the difference between kind of being with NELC and starting your own YouTube channel? Like perfectly, in a perfect situation,

your channel would have a million subscribers, right? How does that differ from being on NELC if like that's not meant and cut out for you? Yeah,

what happens if you hit a mill and then bitch just starts sliding in your DMs? Would it not be the same thing or even like worse? More intense? Definitely be more intense. You know what I'm saying?

It could be more intense. Like birds are going to start DMing you and being like yeah like if like it's inevitable that cropping of the fucking cn tower photo is fucking hot like that spot between the two buildings i want to suck your horn on young street like what do you do about that um i i i have self-control where i could just say no to them and i don't give in to that and it's inevitable that people want to DME like women want to DM me. I just don't care. I don't care. It's inevitable. It's inevitable that, you know, male or female, right, I get DMs from everyone. No, no, no, I get it. I get it. But like, but like saying

like this, this wasn't like cut out for me and stuff like that, like you'd probably want to go and like find hands or like something that's not this, you know? Yeah. So it's a jump into this. It's kind of like to get to your question. So I feel like now I'm sort of in control of what I could do in terms of what I post, what I say. you know, what I'm portrayed as, because now there's no one around me that is responsible for my own actions and my own words and what I do, right? So now I'm taking my full responsibility for everything I do as, as an individual. And I don't have anyone around me in no disrespect, no one to tell me what to do, and I'm my own boss. And I can now do things like travel more

and be out and about more and not have to sort of be contained in a, in a, in a, in a, a setting for so long and and not to say that not to say that I don't enjoy doing the work and the editing because I do enjoy it and it does get tiring and I understand the whole grind of it it's just more of now I get to work on my own schedule

and I don't have to work around other people's time and I don't have to waste their time I have to waste your time Kyle or Lucas I don't have to waste anyone's time no more I could waste if anything goes wrong it's my own fault so Just to kind of... You look like being accountable for your own self.

Exactly. So now I feel like I, I'm the type of person where I feel bad if I get other people involved with my problems and my situations. And now they're the ones that have to sort of help me with my own problems. I want to be my own problem solver. And to contrary of what happened before, I was the victim. and you guys were the savior Kyle and Lucas

because no one could actually watch us they were the savers because they're the ones helping me with my problems when it wasn't necessary for you guys to get involved with it and that was my problem where I got other people involved in my personal life when it wasn't

it didn't need to be done so now I'm living a life where like if you are going to come into my life I want to make sure that it's for a good reason and that I don't put you in a bad position like that again. That's my goal, was to really make people feel comfortable around me

and actually being around me now. I think that's good if you stick by that because even back then, like we genuinely, like I genuinely really wanted to help you, man. Yeah. And I feel like, so I really hope you learned. Yeah, everything happens for a reason, like you said. Yeah.

And it did because. It wouldn't have lasted because Nino didn't want to, it just wasn't the right time. For some reason, whatever it was, it just wasn't the right. time it wasn't you weren't ready for it so and and respectfully you just got to work you just got to work hard you got to you got to you got to you got to dial respectfully too like i even said that the whole nine-o nickname obviously people want to still associate that was jimmy gambles that came up with

that too coolick yeah yeah so what do you think of gambles i mean i don't talk to him anymore like i don't i'm not really i don't like to surround myself with people who just like joke all the time and troll me and make, like, offensive jokes to me because I somewhat do take it a bit personal, right? When it comes to that type of stuff. So you don't like Gambles? I just don't like him, no. That's funny.

So another question is... You seen all the comments about him or no? I don't care. People hate him. I don't care. No, it's funny. That's their problem. If they don't like him, that's on them.

You're getting intense again. No, no. But, but... 905 shooter against Jimmy Gambles. Gambles just can't win, eh? Nine oh, so the nickname, yeah. So I said before the nickname was given to me by you and Kulik because I was associated. I'll let Gamble's take it.

He said Nino. So, so basically the nickname was given to me when I was a part of NELC and that's what I was associated with in NELC. And I said it before where I want to sort of squash that where I want to be known as Jason or 905 shooter or 905 or whatever it cares or shooter, it doesn't matter. Just like that nickname was associated with NELK. And now that I'm not in Elk, it's like, what's the point of really still associating that? I mean, it's a short term for 905. Of course. Yeah, but I just prefer Jason or whatever.

Like, we all have names here, you know? I got, well, fuck, I'm just so used to calling you 9-0. I got another question for you. Sure. I'm not taking a dig. I'm not taking a dig. I just want to know personally. How many followers did you have when you left Nelk?

Okay, so. Did you have 300,000? No, no, so I had like, I still remember. I had 267,000, I think, when I, before I left. Okay. But then randomly after the whole, you know, drama-lit stuff, I gained like 50,000 followers just off that whole situation. Gotcha.

You gained. Yeah. Wow. But then after, obviously, over time, it just kept the climb decreasing, decreasing, and I'm like, I don't care. Like, obviously, like, I don't really care. I see the numbers dropping. It's inevitable.

And I just don't care whether or not I'm gaining or losing, because at the end of the day, I'm just doing my own thing. followers shouldn't and never will define who I am as a person and what I do you know you practice that line that no I just always told myself like followers now that I'm looking back on everything like followers to me is not it shouldn't define who I am no I agree with you and then you're right when it's when you said like when you started gaining followers like you never changed who you were yeah and you know that's you're just human man you treat others say you want to be treated do you fucking respect everyone yeah and whether or not

you're verified or not that doesn't matter anymore like what does you ever look do you ever look at what photos on your instagram get the most likes and try to post more of those photos i've seen a few uh one would be like models or photos that i did i think it's photos of you i some sometimes sometimes not all the time i think i'm looking right now the one photo that i think i did the most like you also got to like that is social media too like you can do you got to do a little bit of what you want but you also got to do what works yeah when you find something that works you got to fucking run with it. I've been posting...

So I'm looking at your feed and it's like all the photos of you get likes. Yeah, I've been posting a lot more on myself now. And that's because I've been... Like maybe people are into seeing you. Yeah. It's not a bad thing, right? No, no. And I think the most...

Like, what if when you went to BC, like, you posted like more photos of you? With like a landscape of BC. Or like whatever it is. And then... Something cool in BC. Yeah. Like, but... With you in the photo.

That's honestly a good idea because I have been thinking about, obviously, posting more. Like this one has 11K. Yeah. Obviously, it's with no jumper too. Yeah, but I think the one that did the best was with Austin. And this one has 900. Yeah. So it's like, that's getting 10 times the likes.

Yeah. The one that you post, or the one that you took me in, in Edinburgh with a suit on. Oh, is you in the suit on in fucking Scotland? Yeah, yeah. Like this. Every new place you go to. Yeah. Posts like that.

Yeah. Or something like that. No, no, that's my advice. Do you remember that one time we went to Sunrise with Adrian to San Francisco? Do you remember that? Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a good time. Yeah, no, that was like.

That's a bonding moment, so. The Sunrise. Wait, how many, uh, likes does that the one have? You know her. You try, you must have tried to wheel her. No. I know you. That fat ass?

No, no. No, no. We won't. No one knows who it is. Yeah, we won't disclose names. But yeah, like, you know her too, but no. She's pretty, she not bad. She's good.

She's a friend of mine. She's a friend. How many... I'd love to see the text with her. Yeah. Let's see this. What? Just to prove that, you know, it's...

Well, I mean, we can all delete text, but, yeah. No, Nino doesn't delete text, I don't think. I don't know. No, it's just kind of... It's kind of like friendly banter. Slid in his phone across the table to me. Friendly banter. It's like friendly banter, you know.

Dms with Nino... How far can I go out? Don't. It doesn't matter to me. grow up as much as you want. It's like we had that photo shoot. We talked about stuff like, um, no.

It's casual. You almost got attacked at Ontario Place? No, yeah, I almost, I, I posted about that. Like, it was weird. Wait, what happened? I was going to Ontario Place and then, you know that. Tell everybody what Ontario Place is. Okay, Ontario Place is, how do I describe it?

It's, um, it's just a place where you see whales. It's a bad place, no? Where you see locked up animals in Wales. No, no. Oh, Ontario Place is a fun of amusement, like the water park and shit. Yeah, yeah. Not bad. Yeah, you could slide it.

Long story short, though. What did you almost? Oh, okay, basically, long story short, there was an abandoned theme park. Do you guys remember that? I checked the text. They're clean. They're clean? They're pretty clean.

It's definitely like, what do you have around WhatsApp or something? No, I mess up. So, so, do you remember the Ontario place? The Snapchat's a fucking cave of fucking demons. No, I'm joking. The abandoned theme park. So I went there, and then I was vlogging a bit. And this guy, like, I don't know if he was on, like, drugs or something, but he started walking towards me.

And then I moved to the side, like, to my left side, and he was on my right side. And then, like, he came at me, like, he wanted to fight me, like, he did this, like, like, he wanted to, like, fight me. Like, he wanted to, like, fight me. You were probably talking to his bird. No. But, but, like, I'll joke this side. Or wheel the sister. No, but, no.

And he was just acting weird. And, like, he kept saying, like, do you, like, you want to fight me or something? Like, he was, like, instigating a fight. I'm like, this is crazy. Like, maybe you took your charger. Maybe. Wait, but you know, like, karate or something, right? I did Taekwondo.

Na-o took Taekwondo, yeah, yeah. But I did karate as a kid. Slid. Yeah. Did you ever take martial arts? Did you have to use your techniques on him or no? No. I would only have to in self-defense if I had to.

Only on Jesse. Everyone remembers that. Wait, yeah. The boxing fight? Yeah. I don't know if, where was that? Was that in Ireland? That was in Dublin.

Dublin. I remember that We had like a It was still kind of when we were doing skits We had like this fake like boxing thing Where who started that Was that Jesse or you that started? No I remember there was a short clip on YouTube

So basically I was sitting in the front seat And then he was like get out or something Oh isn't it in the middle or something He's like good to the back I'm like no like I'm not gonna be treated like that You and Jesse have beef though Well we did Oh yeah

I don't like I mean I forgot about that But at the time though he was like You hated Jesse I don't hate him you did you did i i just disliked him right of them boxing i just disliked him and that's and i'm openly saying that i was just i won't disclose anything i was just i just didn't like the way that he treated me at the time in europe like like it showed in the not it didn't show so much in the videos how did he treat you but like behind the scenes it's just like uh i can't i don't want to

give too much away but like just the way that he talked to me like he kind of talked down on me like and to be fair like yes he's my boss that's that's true you know it was just sort of gained to the point where like it had to be served somehow and after that it was just kind of settled like the beef was kind of squash but like uh i think it was like he wanted to sit in the middle seat and i and he wanted me to sit in the back and i'm like no like i'm gonna sit here like do something about it right basically and then he's just like yeah then this just uh just box or whatever and like okay we just box in the parking lot that that boxing match was like very real and i don't know if people like knew that but like there's definitely some pent up

aggression there well yeah but the the i look back on it i'm like The striking there was not on point. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't defend myself properly. And I wasn't patient enough. I just swung for the fences. Well, you had a couple beefs in the company that Jesse manager drew. Didn't you fight you? Oh, yeah.

I don't know, no, no, but that's, oh my God. That's, that's never been said publicly. I forgot about that video. But that's, that's, that's never been public. Oh, my God. That's been three years. It's been three years. And you, and you remember, but you remember you would never share it.

I completely forgot about that. You probably still have it on your eye cloud. I just didn't know if we wanted to talk about it. Yeah, you do 100%. No, it has to. It has to be backed up. Whoa. Imagine posting that?

That's from three years ago. No, I still remember three years ago. Nino beat the shit out of management. Oh, no, no. Okay, can we just, do you want to talk about it? Would you care if you talked about it? I mean, we might as well. It's long, but we can just edit around it, I guess, right?

I can edit it. Maybe not. End of the day. Drew is Shmash, though. Yeah, Drew got Nino absolutely handled. Was Nino sober? Bro, Drew was, like, borderline hospital-bound. No, no, no.

Bro, he was, like, beat, like, he slept for, like, two, three days after that. Like, he, like, he was, like, a full-un, like, fight. Like, he was actually damaged? Bro. Yeah, yeah. Like, Nino was dropping, like, Nino could scrap, bro. Nino was dropping news. Okay, okay, Lucas, to put into perspective, okay?

We were both drunk at that point, at that point. Nine-no, you should just box someone to get a egg. It was, like, one a-m. It was, like, one a-m., and Florida. You should just box someone and just make like a hundred draft. Nah, no. So, so, okay, get back to the story. You would never box anybody?

Like a social glove kind of fucking thing. Too much, too much work. So basically what happened was, it was like 1 a.m. in Florida. What the fuck? Too much commitment. The whole episode is like grind, grind, grind, grind, grind. No, no, but didn't even anything from that. Like the exposure.

No, no, no, what I mean is like too much commitment. It's like too much commitment to like put everything aside for that. I don't know, that's just me, but You could drop photos of you training I'd be lit, oh, Nino Get shredded, down the box Okay Fucking Nino shredded me

This fucking, so long story short Yeah, shramity Shominy, yeah I hadn't mounted Who? I had drew mounted, full mounted And then You just fill in a mount

Yeah, and then I put in the triangle No, you You just found it, Nino like God because of Nino They fight, Nino gets into full mount ground and like Kabib, ground and pounds him Like elbows

malls him And then Drew like Flips him over And Drew gets on top And then Nino puts him in a triangle But when he has him in the triangle He's punching me in my head He's also aggressive from the ground

And he's like I think you were feeding him Like upward elbows From the triangle Like a choke right No no triangle Triangle So that's when they're

My legs My legs on the ground My legs are around And I'm choking And I'm like top out like But you're You're choking him, but he's also elbowing him from the triangle. And Drew says, Nato's, like, tap out.

And Drew's, like, choking. And he's like, never. Drew does not give up when he's drunk. No. But so it's like, for the boxing, for the boxing, for the boxing, like, the boxing point is like, it's a lot of commitment to, like,

put a lot of things aside and commit to like, yeah, that's how I feel when people ask me to. Yeah, but, like, think about how much content you could kill them on that. But, like, you're in a position where you can, like, take a risk like that. Nino, you should box someone. That'd be so crazy. You know what's funny? Actually, Mills actually made me up and wanted to set a boxing fight up.

With who? He just wanted me to be on a card or something. You should do it. That was like a month ago. He should do it. Mills, Supreme Pagis manager. Go work with Mills. He's smart.

I thought about it. I'm like, ah. But that's when Nino gets into the boxing lifestyle. I'm telling you right now, Nino has some Pachio, Filipino speared at him, too. He has hands. That's lit. like that's the thing though he's gonna come a boxer a year from now he's gonna fucking be fighting jake paul he's gonna be railing lines fucking hookers he's like fucking he's like 60 pounds on

me yeah i know but you're gonna get you're gonna get caught up in the sauce life again steroids and shit no i'm just how much you weigh now like 180 no i'm one 150 150 with muscle though that's a difference okay that's crazy why are you trying to play no what the hell he's weighing me out shit no i'm just saying because the last time i saw you and like yeah Because the last time I saw you, you were on the workout. What are you in? All the boys have been dialed. I weigh like too much.

A little bit. Ninah's pinching Osgun's biceps. Maybe me and you should fight. No, you have like, how don't she weigh? Battle of the editors? 160? I don't know. I think for Dahl wants to square off.

He's like 40 pounds more. Yeah, but you're quicker and he has zero talent. What do you think of Gabriel? Gabriel's a nice guy. He's a cool guy. I've heard of him He's jokes You would have had beef with game for sure

Maybe I don't know I don't know man There's so many new characters Now that I don't know How they interact Oh my god Sometimes I have beef with game though

You'd be like Oh my god, man I'm so stupid Oh yeah To give me attitude and shit Like I'm a question though How many people do you have now On the team? Like total in the company

Yeah Squad Mid 30s Oh wow That's a lot That's good That's good to hear How many editors do we have

There's Austin Adrian Alex D-Tamoss now edits Steve's videos full-time Austin agent Jason Jason Nick Sean Matt Ellis Jason I said Matt Ellis six There's six editors adding a milk video every week now Okay that's good

But then it's also everything else too that we're doing But then happy dad ads Merch ads Podcasts podcast now Is Austin are you still the main main editor No What do you think? The OzGod buddy

Yeah Do people call you OzGon in public public? yeah that's good and you don't have tatted too remember that in Europe yep yeah that's funny good times he has the Osgard neon light

in his office no way actually Adrian Vrudeau gave that to me oh he did yeah you know it's funny I actually got my own neon sign fuck I yeah it's in my room

it's like the the hand logo what's it say just a hand logo oh with the nine yeah let's look

yeah it's good times all right I think this is it's a good time hour and half I mean the way home yeah Hopefully not car accident in the way home.

Oh my gosh. Always a car accident on the highway. If ever you'd come back and drive, no. Well, I wish you the best guys. Yeah, it's a good episode. Let us know what you guys think of it. I guess you can't comment on fucking Apple Music, but it's just a bonus episode.

We didn't really know. This is just like an experiment. So let us know what you guys thought of it and any feedback. We're still new to this whole podcast thing and stuff. And audio's getting better. Audio's getting better, hopefully. Mike check, is it good?

Well, no, because before we had the fucking things. Yeah, but yeah, I'm going to be hosting this a lot with Bob, too. And then, like we said, we're going to sub in everyone from the team. Just sub people in depending on the guest, and we're just having fun with it. So, yeah, subscribe, because every episode's now going to be on Apple podcast as well. So follow. Follow? Yeah.

Oh, it's a follow. Yeah. Follow. I'm new to this fucking podcast shit. But, yeah. Follow us, boys. We're excited. Thank you, thank you.

And thanks, Nino for showing up. I think this is good, right? Yeah, for sure. It went good. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you, guys. Thank you again.

Sorry. And, yeah, I wish you the guys the best. You too. Hope everything goes well for the rest of 2021. And we'll see where we are in the year. Fuck, yeah. Yeah. All right, we're out.

All right. Peace. Let's go. Peace, boys.