FULL SEND PODCAST - Bassem Youssef | Ep. 162

Episode Date: July 31, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 No frills delivers. Get groceries delivered to your door from No Frills with PC Express. Shop online and get $15 in PC optimum points on your first five orders. Shop now at nofrills.ca. All right, everybody. Welcome to another episode of the FulSem podcast. This is actually our very first live episode we've ever done. It's an interesting one for our first live.
Starting point is 00:00:28 We're making history. We're making history. We have Steini here, and I want to welcome Basim Youssef to the Folsom podcast. Thank you for being with us. How are you doing? Thank you for having you guys. Of course. Obviously, last week was controversial for us, to say the least.
Starting point is 00:00:43 We had someone on the podcast, very controversial, as I said, to say it in the least form. What was your reaction when you saw that we had Benjamin Netanyahu on the fullsum? Well, I didn't know about what I am sorry to say, because I'm not your, demographic so I didn't know who the Nelke boys is but like I found my DMs exploding so did you see what the hell boys did it's like who the fuck on the Nelke boys and then I I didn't know that you're that big I'm sorry again I'm not your your targeted demography so I I apologize for my ignorance so and then I started following what's going on and the aftermath and being in the public eye for 15 I understand what does it mean to be in a very tough situation
Starting point is 00:01:34 and now trying to crawl out of that situation, it's difficult, especially with the backlash, because the bigger you are, the bigger the backlash. And, I mean, let's be honest, there's a lot of people when they knew that I'm on the podcast, like, yeah, go there, do them, you know, have them. And I said, like, there's nothing to gain from just canceling people without knowing what went wrong.
Starting point is 00:01:57 because I think it is better to actually learn from what's happening and look at the bigger picture instead of just like, you know, destroying two young people like you because that doesn't serve anybody, right? It just makes people happy that you guys are falling, but the bigger picture is why did this happen and why would this, how were you used, a part of you is your responsibility and part of you not knowing.
Starting point is 00:02:27 So I heard many of the justification that happened saying that, well, you know, it was a great opportunity and I'm like, wouldn't you like get him on the podcast? Yes, if somebody told me, would you interview Nathaniel? It's like, hell yeah, but I'll be prepared. And I think the biggest part of you that you were not prepared, two years under like the biggest genocide in our history, you guys had no idea what's going on. somebody told me hey you're going to be tomorrow on the starting five of the Lakers and the NBA as like that's a great opportunity but I'm not prepared I'm
Starting point is 00:03:02 not going to make a fool out of myself so it's not about you platforming someone or someone giving a chance for like free speech you were used right and it didn't start with the podcast it started two years ago in March 2023 when you went to Israel because I know like I told you that The Israel has increased their Hasbara budget, which is their propaganda machine, with $150 million. And part of that money goes to influence people in college campuses, higher influencers like you, getting them into fancy trips to Israel, giving them this filtered, layered picture that is made up, that is fake.
Starting point is 00:03:48 I mean, I watched it yesterday, and I was cringing because, not because, like, you're showing, how cool Israel is, or they have nightclub. You're saying our NELC video in Israel? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So because the part when you mentioned Palestine, do you remember, we're going to a place that is so dangerous now. Palestine. And then you are in a bus, and then, like, special forces come in and kidnap you,
Starting point is 00:04:12 and this is kind of, like, IDF simulation, counterterrorism. And then they're telling you, we have a dog that only breeded in Israel. It can kill a man. And you understand that, like, the kind of psychopathic behavior, of a country that like tells you like part of its like tourist attraction that we're killing terrorists and we're breeding dogs to kill human beings and by the way I don't know part of the anger is like just last year there was like a kid with autism and down syndrome that was killed by one of these dogs and then the next scene is let's go and see Palestinian family
Starting point is 00:04:46 and the only Palestinian family in this video are just like a bunch of bend ones in a tent a guy who's married two wives and he tells you my whole life is about camels and goats and chicken and then you find like a 60 years old one i just live on pita bread and milk so even if october seven didn't happen you were used in a propaganda machine to to tell people this is what you need to know about Palestinians they're just like a bunch of people with cows and and goats marrying two people living in a tent happy with a pita bread and milk so you You were recruited in March, 23, and you were activated in July 2025, right? So, and I'm saying this because I'm saying this out there for all of the influencers around there,
Starting point is 00:05:34 because there's a lot of people got backlash. There's influence who went there, like, wearing IDF. It's like, we didn't know what we're going on. Like, Hughes, like, I didn't know I'm kissing a Jewish wall. I mean, yeah, I can definitely admit that, I mean, I think we were both just ignorant to, what was going on over there. And obviously, you know, I knew he was, I'll be honest, I thought he was controversial,
Starting point is 00:05:57 but I was definitely ignorant to what was going on in that area. And I can admit that. And it was definitely, I regret. I wish we could have gone back and, you know, had two weeks to sit down with someone like yourself and just we should have grilled him 50,000, 100,000 times harder, but something we can't get back. And we'll probably always regret that.
Starting point is 00:06:16 Of course, but I know you can't get back this like trip in Israel, but I'm just telling you this was like part of a much bigger propaganda effort, right? And a country that spends $150 million on its image, they are covering something. When they spread all of these propaganda, it's like, we're not starving people in Gaza. You understand that this conversation has been happening for two years. First of all, I'm not absolving you from your trip. You guys are not little kids. You are fucking 30 years old, right? People in your age have families and they have they they have a career and you cannot just you cannot you need to stop and i'm just saying this because you're my little brothers but you're not little right you need to
Starting point is 00:06:59 stop infantilizing yourself it's like we're just stupid people doing stupid stuff you're 30 years old and you need to be aware of what's happening in the world and that your reach and your platforms mean something and it affects people and i think the biggest reason why people are so upset for you not because you brought someone and you didn't contest him, that it is the talking point that he used is the same talking points that have been used for two years to kill thousands of people, right? So, I mean, and part of the reason why
Starting point is 00:07:31 where people were so angry is that forget, even if you don't know anything about the conflict, there was like a total lack of critical thinking. I mean, you guys asked him the one good question. When you told them in October 7th, How could this be allowed to happen? Everybody knowing that Musad is like a crazy, intelligent thing that infiltrates people and put bombs in pages. How did you not see that coming?
Starting point is 00:07:56 But also, a critical thinking is how come an attack was allowed for six hours in the most heavily surveilled part in the world? You understand, like, in 2019, they killed, like, tens, hundreds of people just because they approached the... the the wall between gaza and israel you understand they killed me there you have like cop copters like drones you have snipers suddenly for six hours in a remember what uh what nittineau told me how big is israel you told me it's it's like as big as road island as jersey right yeah like it you understand the distance between gaza and tel aviv is is 44 miles you understand that like he was just bragging to you that's like, hey, we went across three countries to bomb Iran. But you can't have a single helicopter coming out to defend your people? Like the October 7th was used in order
Starting point is 00:08:58 to tell people, look to the Jewish people that were killed. But you don't understand that you pay a million of dollars as Americans as as Canadians to protect those Jewish people. So it's not just like an intelligence failure. It was a deliberate way to let people get slaughtered and what did he tell you when you asked him what happens? We're still investigating it. Really investigating for two years? You don't know how people for six hours
Starting point is 00:09:22 continued to kill people. That's why when people, we went on other people podcast and they told you guys they used the Hannibal Directive. They killed their own people and I sent you all of the stuff. What was your reaction? Do it, that's conspiracy. Again, people were angry because you didn't read what's
Starting point is 00:09:38 going on there, right? Israel uses something called Blitzk You know what? Splits Creek? It means flash attack. This is the Nazi did. They do like a very coordinated attack very quickly, very fast. And it's like very simple messaging. Decapitated babies, mass rape, right? So there's an emotional response. People get so angry. And then after a couple of days, everybody goes back to their Netflix, to their UFC fight, to the NBA. And the people who stay as like, wait a minute, that is fucked up. That didn't happen. There is So many plot holes, already most of the people has already went back to their lives.
Starting point is 00:10:17 So the people who stay and hold them accountable will be called fringe, obsessed, anti-Semitic. Get to Toronto's main venues like Budweiser Stage and the new Roger Stadium with Go Transit. Thanks to Go Transit's special online e-ticket fairs, a $10 one-day weekend pass offers unlimited travel on any weekend day or holiday anywhere along the Go network. And the weekday group passes offer the same weekday travel. flexibility across the network starting at $30 for two people and up to $60 for a group of five buy your online go pass ahead of the show at go transit.com slash tickets conspiracy theory like you said oh dude this is conspiracy theory it's not and this is why I have like sent you all of the videos so you can be educated when you were on the podcast and they were telling you dude
Starting point is 00:11:06 they spit on Christians in Israel that's like I was in Israel nobody spit on me yes of course because you were in a curated propaganda machine that showed you one thing about Israel. Do you remember when you were like in that bus and there was a guy with a scarf? It's like, oh, that guy with a scarf, like, I don't know if you or someone of your friend said, he looks suspicious.
Starting point is 00:11:28 It's not that cold. So the only representation of Palestinian are either people staying in a tent or a suspicious guy with a scarf. And I don't know who edited that. It seems like Musad edited it. And if you guys have edited it, that that is fucked up because it just, just like solidifies the same racist tropes
Starting point is 00:11:51 about a group of people that being slaughtered and staffed to death right now. And then they distract you with questions like, it is Hamas. It's the people they're not allowing aid in. And you understand that this is the same exact conversation that's been happening for two years. They bomb hospitals. It's not us. It's Hamas. Oh, it's us.
Starting point is 00:12:09 But they were Hamas underneath it. It's maybe a mistake. then after bombing hospital they bomb schools and then they bomb entire residential areas then they kill women and children and now two years later we're we're discussing the same question but like are we starving them or is it hamas starving them you see the cycle of deceit the cycle of lies the cycle of propaganda so that's why i'm not coming here to say like oh they are starving because i'm not going to go after each and every single lie that he said because it's exhausting and And they have been doing that for two years.
Starting point is 00:12:42 So I'm here to show you the patterns and the bigger picture to understand that you were sitting with a narcissistic psychopathic liar that's used to gaslighting people and lie them to them in their faces. Yeah, I want to say too, yeah. We obviously, one thing that hurt me the most when we had him on was just I have a lot of personal, you know, friendships and stuff from people of all religions. And a lot of people were obviously just upset
Starting point is 00:13:06 and they were messaging me personally, like friends and saying, why did you have him on? and stuff so when i told them that we're having you on to explain us the bigger picture they're all very excited so honestly we just want to we just want to learn about this and we obviously just want to use our platform to educate people what do you want to learn about i mean i think it would just be good for you to to talk about what net and yahoo said and explain us you know well one thing i said about the october 7th like you know he uh and and i like the not just october 7th is the way that he dehumanize a whole population.
Starting point is 00:13:42 Remember when he told me, how can young people march in the streets with people who kill gays? And then he used this like overplayed lame jokes. Like gays for Gaza is like chicken curve for KFC. And it's just like he keeps saying it in everywhere. And he just sounds stupid. And they tell him, they are like, they would kill women if they're not in hijab. So this guy who pretends that he cares about gays,
Starting point is 00:14:10 and women and I send you the articles like how they have actually use revenge porn in order to recruit gay people they go into Grindr and Facebook and Instagram like I think you have the the the headline F goes on grindy yeah yeah yeah they got and they actually pick those gay people and then they use revenge porn in order to hire them as informants you have that yes so over the past several months i spoke to there's like there's a lot of queer palestinians that's actually been used by the idf in order to actually hire them and informants and then the same guy who cares about women and children he already killed more than 28 000 women and children in the less than a year and a half and again they use revenge
Starting point is 00:14:58 porn there's even a movie about it made by like uh an an oscar nominated director uh he's a palestinian and it's called hoda salon and they told talk about how for very many years they have spiked women's drinks in beauty salons in order to shoot them and film them in compromise position and then use them or use their husbands and informants. So you understand the level of pathology and the level of narcissistic behavior, the level of evil these people are doing, and then they have the audacity to come and talk about gay people and talk about women. This is crazy, man. You understand? And I went and I sent you that stuff in order to look and verify.
Starting point is 00:15:42 And this is why the reason we're doing this in live, because I invite anybody to fact-check everything that I say as we go on. So you're saying Israel is they're recruiting gay people from Palestine and using them as informants? That's happening out in the West Bank, yes. Wow. So what about what about some of the stuff Netanyahu said? I know this is for you is probably basic. But what he said, we asked him if he was purposely starving people in Gaza,
Starting point is 00:16:13 and he said Hamas is stealing the food. It's interesting that we would actually take the war of an indicted war criminal and a guy who's been caught lying many times. Like, for example, when he say Iran is days away from creating a nuclear bomb. And there's videos of the Internet of him saying many times, oh, Iran is like five months away, three months away. And you understand when you asked him about Iraq, oh and he said that's unfortunate and yet he has a video saying iraic is
Starting point is 00:16:41 month away of creating weapons of mass destruction i've seen that video i've seen the video of him talking about iran yeah so so you see you see a guy that like if you have a friend steiny and you if you have a friend that consistently lies to you and he caught up lying when would it be enough to say okay that guy i'm not going to take anything he says now the thing about like him saying we're not starving it's hamas uh there is uh there's also a some of the articles that I send you, there is like multiple articles of Israel killing aid workers, UN workers, saying that they are Hamas. You know, they have killed over like, I don't know the number 100 to 100 people of aid workers. They are like lining people in aid lines and then they are
Starting point is 00:17:26 killing them. When they tell you. So people that are not even involved in the conflict. They're aid workers. They, I think, I think the number is like they killed over 180 doctors. or it's just it's it's the numbers is like so big now you can't even like catch up with the numbers and uh i was in london they were playing uh the world premiere of a documentary called doctors under attack and it shows you it's a documentary done by the bbc by the way it shows you how okay oh to their yeah it's over 400 austinians and of course it's very easy to say oh the united nations is anti-semitic everybody is anti-semitic everybody is lying and only one who's not lying is Netanyahu right so those people that they're so like this one
Starting point is 00:18:13 for example is this like a bombing or is this just like they're coming and like gunning them down they're gunning them down they're using they're using drones and killing them there's there even like a whistleblower that came a couple of days ago who was working with the eight groups and he said like there's like a little kid who came and kissed our hands because we gave him food and as he was walking away the idea if shot him in the head it's crazy man and this was like almost a month ago not only yeah yeah so so 400 people those are civilians yeah but that's that that's that number gets updated by the minute right now and it's you can just like you can go through the headlines if you want but that the reason that I'm like showing you do this is that Israel is the only one
Starting point is 00:18:56 who has the absolute control of getting aid in and out and I know that you've seen on the internet they're they're showing their soldier here's the aid sitting here the UN is not taking them do they are killing you and workers and calling them Hamas if you start calling everybody Hamas the doctors are Hamas the kids are Hamas the UN or older there is no way for people to go in and do anything you see you know how desperate people are people are riding on boats and trying to get aid in in these flotillas and one of them is like a comedian that you work with his name is jacob burger is jewish by the way from new york and he was arrested by the idf and one of them he's a he's the only
Starting point is 00:19:37 Yeah, and the only one, the only black dude on that Flotella, he was beaten and tortured and he's American, right? So you understand the level of psychopathy that you're dealing with. It's not about like our word against their word anymore because they have all of these people activated like you. They tried to recruit you, whether influencers or people in the media telling it's, look, it's not starving. It's just not happy. It's not our fault. You remember, I told you before, it's the same. argument they used before they bombed every single hospital in in gaza it's not us it's hamas they
Starting point is 00:20:13 bombed every single school in gaza it's not us in hamas they killed 60 000 people it's hamas fault it's you see the pattern you see the pattern you know that the most viral video i did with p s morgan is when i said like israel is a narcissic psychopath like a boyfriend who fucks you over and makes you think their fault you know why this like resonated with so many people it's just because the narcissistic psychopathic behavior right so they are like a bunch of liars a bunch of killers a bunch of murders and it it is and then it's it's easy for them to just like get out with and say like it is fucking Hamas so what what is like the ideal situation in that area the ideal situation that israel should not be coming in and occupying a country that's not
Starting point is 00:21:01 theirs and I know that you went there and you you were raised all your life saying that this is our country, our place. You understand that Israel started by refugees from Europe, people who escaped the Nazis. This was a European problem. Most of those people were in Ukraine and Russia and Poland and Germany, and then they went through incredible hardship. Why would they come to the Middle East
Starting point is 00:21:28 and take a land that belonged to other people? That is the core of the problem. The core of the problem is not just starvation or the daily killing. it is people coming in and trying to take a land from other people and of course you grew up as a Jewish person telling you this was an empty land and we just came in there was no one there there were already 2 million Arabs living there before Israel have even been conceived
Starting point is 00:21:54 and in one night 700,000 people were displaced overnight in 15th of May in 1948 when they declared the state of Israel you understand the amount you have like your grandparents are like holocaust survivors they wouldn't like another holocaust to be happening in their name and they wouldn't if if you have a problem with germany go fucking get take a piece of land from germany man you understand like where my people are coming from like we were just sitting here and you have like a problem in in europe and then you were pushed on us and say like this is our land now get the fuck out you understand how sick this is You know how unfair this is? You understand? So we can discuss about, like, what is happening now with the situation? You need to go, again, the bigger picture and understand why this happened. Right?
Starting point is 00:22:48 Those people who are, who are, Netanyahu sat in front of you and saying, like, Hamas is terrorists. They are the one who actually started terrorism in the Middle East. They are one who started bombing hotels, bombing people. the amount like if you just like go in and write the terror and i invite the internet to actually fact check this the terrorism of the zionist militias in palestine right the dozens of people that they have been killing you know all of the stuff that you have been they have like you know killing pregnant women decapitated people this is the exact same thing that they did in massacres like dariacine there in subra and chitela they have been you know there's a uh
Starting point is 00:23:31 a very famous line saying like every accusation is a confession every time they they blame Hamas for using human shield they are the one who's being using human shield right they're actually in 2005 the israeli supreme court made a verdict saying you need to stop using human shield because they were using it so much there's like a recorded 1,200 incidences of them using human shield between 2001 and 2005 that is crazy man right so you are every time you see them accusing Palestinians of doing it they have done it many times before even more brutal yeah one thing I see on the internet now too is a lot of Americans are questioning like is is Israel our closest ally why are they are closest ally
Starting point is 00:24:22 why are we sending so much money to Israel I think I mean I see it I mean even Trump now recently I think it was yesterday or two days ago. It seems like he's not even agreeing with Netanyahu now. I saw Canada just recognized Palestine as a state. Yeah, but in the same time, Trump said, like, well, I think Canada couldn't be our partner anymore, which is crazy. You are basically sacrificing Canada, which is actually your closest ally because of Israel. Well, what I was going to ask is why does America consider Israel its closest ally? No, America doesn't consider Israel the closest ally.
Starting point is 00:24:58 It's the American politicians. Right. So why are the American politicians so loyal to Israel? Well, follow the money, right? 80% of Congress are openly financed by APEC, which is the Israeli lobby. So when you finance 80% of your Congress, you're representative, suddenly a foreign country is more important than your own country, right? I think you were asked many times, Tiny, are you American first or are you Israel?
Starting point is 00:25:28 first and you said no i'm american first you wouldn't like to have your tax money going to a country being and using that to kill children while your count your your your fellow americans in places like texas and north carolina suffering from floods and not getting the aid they're get there is i think there is uh the graph with the 17 million billion dollars only into by the way so far since the beginning of the conflict not the conflict there's slaughter since october 2028 America sent Israel more than $30 billion. $17.9 billion in 2024 alone. $17 billion.
Starting point is 00:26:08 That's crazy. You know how many schools that you can build with that? You know how many teachers that you can pay? You know how many houses that you can give for the homeless? Why is your money going to a foreign country and using this to inflict the most evil genocide on innocent people? Right? Right.
Starting point is 00:26:29 So what's the, why do you think that American politicians are? No, I'm just told you because of the money. Like the AIP. Oh, because they're being paid to yourself. APEC is openly bragging about financing 80% of Congress with $100 million. Do they openly brag about that? Oh, yeah, yeah. I invite everybody to go into the APAC Twitter and see them bragging about it.
Starting point is 00:26:54 It was like 98% of the people that we, that we, that we promote, they win their elections. And this is the graph, and I was telling about the U.S. sent $17.9 billion in only 2024. This is how much you can do with that amount of money. And instead, it is going to buy weapons. It's going to settlers in the West Bank, American Jews maybe, Jews from other places, who live there with, like, very low rent housing,
Starting point is 00:27:22 they have better education, better health care than any American here, which is crazy. Why is my money going there? I know, Stanley, I saw you on many of the podcast saying, like, it is very difficult for me as a Jewish-American living there, and I understand it's difficult, but it was misunderstood because people said, this is so tone-depth, this is so self-centered. It's not about you guys.
Starting point is 00:27:47 But I kind of understood it in a, you know, I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt, that maybe it is difficult because there's a whole genocidal state right now, using your identity and using your religion in order to commit unspeakable crimes right but also you need to understand what does it mean to be a Palestinian American right now you understand how difficult it is to a Palestinian American sitting here seeing his family slaughtered and star and that is being done by their own tax money can you imagine can you imagine like you're sending money to your family to for
Starting point is 00:28:24 example build a bakery and then you see that bakery destroyed on phone and then turbo tax takes your money and finance the bomb that fucking bomb that you understand that the kind of mind fuck that those people are living in like yes anti-semitism is a real thing but you understand that it is that you haven't seen three jewish people being shot because they spoke hebrew right i have three palestinian friends they were in brown universe they were speaking arabic and they were shot and one of them cannot walk for the rest of his life right there was like a Palestinian kid six years old who was stabbed 26 times right after October 7th because of the kind of fear that was launched against Muslim
Starting point is 00:29:09 Americans right there was a Palestinian there was like an Indian Muslim kid that was almost drowned in Texas by a Jewish woman her name is Elizabeth Wolff as a hate crime if these if the roles were reversed if those kids were Jewish you wouldn't hear the end of it but I'm telling you this and I can see in your eyes. It's the first time you ever heard about this. This is crazy. This is manufactured. So part of me is angry at you guys for not knowing, but part of me, I have empathy for you because this is the kind of a bubble that was created intentionally by the media to tell you that all the perpetrators, the people on the other side are the terrorists, that are the evil people, and Israel is our greatest ally. This is prime brainwashing. So you understand what I mean?
Starting point is 00:29:54 So when you say, like, it's difficult to be Jewish, yes, I understand, but it is, it is kind of like you are. I think it's the, I can't speak for Stani, but I have other Jewish friends. And what they all say to me is what Israel's doing right now makes it tougher to be prideful of, you know, being Jewish. Yeah, but the biggest thing is. I don't want to speak to. No, no, no, but you understand. But you see the mistake here is like now you're linking being Jewish to being pro-Israel. It's like me linking being Muslim to being pro-ISIS.
Starting point is 00:30:27 It's like being proud to be German to be a Nazi. Because that is what Israel is, right? And it is, this is a regime, a state, a genocidal state, that hijacked your identity as Jewish, and then started to tell everybody, if you start to question Israel, you're being anti-Semitic. You know what does that tell you? That being a good Sematic means that you have to approve for starving kids,
Starting point is 00:30:54 killing babies, raping prisoners in prison, genociding a whole population, kicking them out. That is what does it mean to be a good Jewish. That is crazy, man. That is actually the most anti-Semitic thing ever. Do you think, in your opinion, do you think what Israel is doing is making some people anti-Semitic, though? Oh, 100%.
Starting point is 00:31:14 100%. Let me give an example. Have you seen those videos of the IDF soldiers dancing with lingeries and toys or babies? Have you seen that? Yeah. the world is run by one thing discipline right you if you are in the army and you start posting shit like that your commanders are either allowing you to do this or if if they don't they will
Starting point is 00:31:38 actually what the fuck are you doing right because this is the army right you're not allowed to just like post shit other than actually the army kind of approving to it so it is by design i actually i ask a professor in london it's like why are they actually doing that in purpose like it's very very easy because it is much easier for Israel to be hated and then having them conflate that hate with Jewish people and when that happens you see anti-semitism give us more money to kill our enemies you understand it's like it's a very very sick psychology and the people who are paying for this are Jewish people right because now you are finding yourself inheriting everything that this regime is doing right and it is the whole idea about being an a Jewish person
Starting point is 00:32:24 is being as being a pro-Israel it's crazy right you know like a couple of days ago Trump pushed Colombia to pay 21 million dollars for support the Jewish people for the psychological trauma and it really it's crazy because we haven't heard of Jewish people being expelled from Colombia there are people who lost their immigration status for standing pro-Palestine and not pro-Israel, there's not a single Israeli because of his stand from being pro-Israel who lost their job, got deported, being blacklisted with the company, being doxed.
Starting point is 00:33:02 This is what happened on their side. And the Jewish people who actually got hurt were the people on the pro-Palestinian side. There are like Jewish professors who lost their position because they stood with the pro-Palestinian side. But they don't talk to you about that. They want you to think it is Jewish people
Starting point is 00:33:20 against everybody else. They don't talk to you about the Jewish voices for peace. The people who are, their slogan is not in my name. We will not allow Israel to use our name in order to continue with the genocide. They are not telling you about the Israeli bloc that was in all of the university protest or in all of the protests in London and in Paris and in New York. They want to, again, the same image that they were created in Israel, the way that they used that propaganda in order to,
Starting point is 00:33:51 to blind you of what's happening, they're not telling you about the other side. So they keep putting you in that box. It is Jewish people against everybody else. It is not true. Talking about patterns, like you said earlier, some of the documents you sent us that I found interesting was just the history dating back of how long Israel has been influencing America's government.
Starting point is 00:34:14 Yes. Can you talk to us about some of that? Yeah, well, it's, well, you have a lobby group, called APAC which is which should under American Lobby registered as a foreign entity a foreign lobby group but it's not and because of it's mentioned it is registered as local it is allowed to raise so much money and act as a local lobbying group right and because of that they are allowed to openly pay all of these politicians in order to write bills and to pass law to protect Israel and one that they protect the United States, right?
Starting point is 00:34:55 And people will say, this is conspiracy theory. Are you telling us that Israel is controlling America? It's not really a conspiracy theory, because if you think about it, a country is run by a government and government is run by people. And if you buy enough people, you control the government. Am I right? Yeah, for sure. Am I right?
Starting point is 00:35:12 I mean, if not just Israel, if any government was doing that, it would be a problem, right? I mean, and I send you even a video of like American senators and congressmen having the Israeli flag outside of their room. They are tweeting, I stand with Israel while there are people suffering from floods in North Carolina. There is like a town in Texas that made people sign a pledge to not boycott Israel if they want to have flood aid, which is crazy, right?
Starting point is 00:35:43 If I told you, hey, your house was destroyed in the floods, why don't you write a pledge to make sure that you not boycott Egypt? You will get furious, right? right so why is this allowed to happen man how why is this allowed to happen why is every congressman every media person is just going there and and putting israel in such like a high place over his own country if this is not treason i don't know what it is like do you like do you sign it you pay taxes right you guys like doing well for yourself yeah would you accept that your taxes to go to support like a foreign country except instead of like
Starting point is 00:36:20 supporting your own American fellows, like going into the infrastructure of your own country? No. Yeah? Yeah. So it is, that's why it's like the bigger picture here that the system is much more broken than you think. It's not about like me going after everything lied that Indian Inejo said. It's about giving you the bigger picture of how these are very curated, a very, oh yeah,
Starting point is 00:36:45 this is American Israel. Yeah. This is how much money. that they have spent and given $51 million in contribution to Israel or Israel? No, no, no, no, this is this is, this is, to, to, uh, American politicians. This is how much like this is the kind of, where's this from? Uh, uh, uh, this is American public affairs. Yeah. Is there, is there any type of other government, I mean, when Russia was doing it,
Starting point is 00:37:16 everyone thought they were doing it. Yeah. As I remember, like, oh, the Russian interference, the Russian interference. Like, guys, like, you don't even need it. And people say it's a conspiracy, but, like, you don't need a conspiracy. You have people opening. They're basically, we're giving you $100 million. Give me back $30 billion.
Starting point is 00:37:33 That's the best. That's better than crypto, man. I mean, I would, I would invest in APEC. If APEC was a Bitcoin, I would invest in it, right? What else does Israel do to influence America's government in the past? I mean, this is like some deep shit. I'm kind of honestly scared to talk about it. No, why talk about it?
Starting point is 00:37:52 Don't worry. It's good. Oh, I know. I just, yeah. We're in a unique situation. Yeah, you are right. Yeah. So what do you want to talk about?
Starting point is 00:37:59 No, just like, I mean, I've seen some of the documents you've talked about, like, give me an example. Blackmailing and. Oh, the blackmailing. It's, uh, yeah, I mean, like we've been, a lot of people are talking about the Epstein files right now, right? What do you think about the Epstein files? I think it's, it's not a good look.
Starting point is 00:38:15 What's going on right now? Why? just because I think the I mean I think the Republicans kind of ran on releasing it I think yeah a lot of you know people feel the same way I think there's there's clips of people in the administration saying we need to release it and now it's not getting released so it's not and have you been reading about like you know
Starting point is 00:38:37 Gilane Maxwell the one that was with him and then she was like the kind of like a hundred percent moose ad acid and then you have cash Patel the FBI director who says saying, like, America needs to wake up and prioritize Israel. And I said, like, why is the FBI, the deputy of the, the head of the FBI telling me that I, as an American, need to prioritize Israel? I mean, I mean, you see, you see the pattern. You see how fucked up this is, right?
Starting point is 00:39:04 And then before he goes, go into the FBI, we're going to release the Epstein file. After the other than there is no Epstein files. And in the middle, we need to prioritize Israel. You connect the doubt. I think they need to release it because it's not a good one. But you understand the fact that you have a country in the Middle East, not just taking your money, but blackmailing your politicians, including your presidents. You've seen that the article that I sent you at the time of Israel
Starting point is 00:39:28 about the Monica Lewinsky thing and the Big Clinton thing. I mean, this is crazy. That's why it just, like, it drives me crazy when I... Can you explain that to our audience? Yeah, so there's a book... The history to me is fascinating. Yeah, there's like a book written by an Israeli. author and it was actually discussed as the headlines in time of Israel of how actually Israel
Starting point is 00:39:49 have blackmailed bill Clinton with the Monica Lewinsky tape in order for him to release an Israeli spy who actually stole our nuclear secrets and sent it to America. Yeah. So it is things like that which drives me crazy when people tell me Israel is our biggest ally. An ally will not do that to you. An ally will not steal your nuclear weapons, will not black, blackmail your presidents with whatever files they have with sexual files in order to release a spy will not blackmail your politicians with a fucking love island with with with with with with with with with with with with young girls it's crazy right yeah it's it's why do you think they allowed him to campaign on that so hard then what do you mean like why why would they this trump campaigned on
Starting point is 00:40:38 that yeah yeah that he was going to release it yeah well yeah maybe maybe maybe he didn't know that that they had something on it Maybe they thought that, like, everything was on Clinton. Maybe he didn't know. And then, like, we have Ilumas saying, well, he's in the files. And then he's like, I'm not in the files. And that Pat Bond is like, I have the files on my desk. And then suddenly we don't have the files.
Starting point is 00:40:57 It makes you think, right? And you know, like Trump was asked straight up, would you release the Epstein files? It's like, well, it can destroy a lot of people's like, yeah, well, if there are pitophiles, yes, fucking destroy their lives. It's just like, it's as an, like, I come from the Middle East. Middle East, we complain a lot about, like, how the government is corrupt. And then I come here to the Western world where, like, everything is transparent. And I just, like, find the same exact attitude of gas lighting and of lying. And, and I found it was like, oh, my God, I'm actually in a country that's being controlled by, like, horrible people in Israel. Yeah, here's, here's
Starting point is 00:41:41 a nice, like, a nice ted. But do you know that Israel has the, one of the highest, of sex offenders in the entire world. And many of them are Jewish Americans who actually... Is that a fact? Oh, yeah, yeah. You can actually... Like per capita? Yeah, no, you can actually, right now, you can, there's a CBS report about sex offenders fleeing from Israel.
Starting point is 00:42:03 These are people who get indicted in American. They have a conviction and they flee. You can... Do you see it? Oh, yes. How Jewish American pedophiles hide from justice in Israel. This is on CBS. Yes. You don't have to play it, but like the, I'm just, I don't want to like kind of like stop the interview. I just want people that they reference it. So there's like a, there's like tens of people who basically gets. Yeah, no high and I ads here. Yeah. Who get like indicted for actually like being pedophiles and they go hide in Israel and Israel doesn't bring you back because like they're protected by their Israeli passport. So this is the. bigger picture that I'm telling you when you are on this is one of the things that we're
Starting point is 00:42:48 taking against you there's no two sides for it one side is a genocidal pedophile enabling blackmailing liars who are starving people to death who are killing women and children and that is the side right so that is why it is it is it's like it's being very icky right now to even give a platform for them to spread their fucking lies because this is the kind of lies that's been actually hurting and killing people over two years.
Starting point is 00:43:22 So if I told you, I'm not an expert still, but what I've even learned just with the stuff you've sent and what I've learned over the last week. So you understand, like when you, all of that I'm trying to make you understand the level of hate and anger
Starting point is 00:43:36 that was directed towards you because basically you're supporting a pedophile. You're supporting a guy that is actually blackmailing people. You're supporting a guy who's a killer, right? That guy, who seems to be caring about women, there's a huge scandal in Israel that was unravel in 2012, 2013, that for more than two decades, Israel gave contraceptive shots to Ethiopian Jewish women
Starting point is 00:44:07 to prevent them from reproducing. And this was... How? Like, how'd they, like... Yeah, they're going to pull it up right now. So basically, they were giving contraceptive shots for them in order to prevent them because they were, like, black Jewish people. And Benjamin Netanyahu was in the cabinet,
Starting point is 00:44:27 and they apologized in 2013. Apologize. How can you apologize for something like that? Right? Did you have it? Yeah. If you've been immigrants, Israel, you receive contraceptive shots without their consent. And you can find it also in time of Israel. You can time...
Starting point is 00:44:40 How did they do that? That was, they would kind of like get them into like routine gynecological, you know, tests. And then they were just like, yeah, bang, yeah. And they didn't know what they were, they were being injected. And this continued from 1998 to 2013. And when it was found out, it was a huge scandal. And Benjamin Netanyahu was in that, the cabinet. So I'm just telling you, I'm like, if I start to.
Starting point is 00:45:05 You know what it is, I think? Some of the shit's so dark. Yes. That you almost don't want to believe it. Exactly. I think that's part of the problem. When you say something like that, my initial reaction is like, I don't want to believe it.
Starting point is 00:45:16 Not a conspiracy, I don't want to believe it because it's like, it's scary how fucked up that would be if it was true. You know what I'm saying? Yeah. And that's why I didn't want this interview to saying like, hey, guys, you fucked up, you're terrible people. Look what you did. And I didn't want to just chase every single lie that Netanyahu says
Starting point is 00:45:34 because it's exhausting. I just wanted you to understand the level of psychopathy. that this regime is right because today's starvation yesterday is killing tomorrow it's going to be something else and it's going to be the same exact loop of discussion we didn't do it it's Hamas it's propaganda it's like dude come on these are professional lives can I ask a question that I actually just want to understand it might be a dumb question but like what like in your opinion what role does Hamas play like do they need to be completely removed from Gaza well again this is this is the kind of like again the questions that are used in order to distract you from the biggest thing right
Starting point is 00:46:18 because I'm just trying to learn no no no I understand but that again we're doing bigger picture now right you have to understand that this all started by people coming from a different country going into a different country killing everybody taking their land there will have to be resistance movement whether you call these resistance movement terrorist, whether you, like, I mean, Nelson Mandela was called a terrorist for 20 years of his life, right? He was called, Nelson Mandela,
Starting point is 00:46:43 who was like the beacon of liberation, he was classified by the American government as a terrorist, right? And people say terrorists because they don't want to get into trouble because they are classified by the FBI and by the CIA as terrorist group. So people don't want to get into trouble
Starting point is 00:47:01 and then suddenly the conversation, oh, so you mean Hamas is not terrorist? So you support what they're doing. So you see, I'm just like giving you the bigger picture how these questions are used. And then now Hamas is not even an issue anymore. You went in and you destroyed a whole territory, displacing two million people,
Starting point is 00:47:19 destroying every hospital, every school, every house. And now people are saying, Hamas, if there was no occupation, there will be no Hamas, there will be no resistance, right? And I find it very funny that, that Netanyahu have openly admitted that he has emboldened Hamas in order to cause factions inside the Palestinian movement, so they will never have a Palestinian state.
Starting point is 00:47:46 And you can Google that as I talk if you want. So purposely causing chaos. Yeah, you know, like how you kind of like, you know, finance people and other people in order to, they have like an infighting. It's a very, very common technique, you know, like divide and conquer, you know. So, and this is why I don't want people to get reduced to asking smaller questions. I just know it's a question everyone asks.
Starting point is 00:48:13 No, no, no, of course, but the bigger question is that you have a genocidal regime using your money to continue with the killing, using your money in order to buy the media to make you continue being ignorant and not knowing what's going on. Yes. Explain this to us more. So this is basically for years, Netanyahu, this is from the time. What does it mean by it says Netanyahu propped up Hamas? So basically they would facilitate them having the stream of money in order to make them stronger
Starting point is 00:48:49 and to kill any other liberal opposition or any kind of opposition inside to have like a different representation of the Palestinian people. It's very easy to have your enemy and paint them as an Islamic terrorist. So you can, instead of trying to have a critical thinking of what's happening, it's like, oh, these are zombies. You know, when you watch a movie of zombies, you don't want to understand about their motives. These are zombies. These are cannibals. These are like terrorists.
Starting point is 00:49:19 So you don't spend time in trying to understand the conflict. And you just say, like, okay, this is just like fucked up. Right? So, for example, when you were in an interview and you're talking about New York, it's like, oh, Mam Dany, that guy is like anti-Semitic, right? Where does this come from? Just stuff I see on X. Yes, stuff you see on X, but you don't question why is he anti-Semitic, right?
Starting point is 00:49:45 What did he say in, and that's actually, that's the one video that I want to play, guys, is it the people running for the position of mayor in New York, right? you are a new yorker right you're from new york no where you're from colorado okay so let's say you are in new york right okay you're from color you want the people the people running for the governor of of uh of uh of the the governor of colorado or the mayor of Denver to represent your interest right it would be very weird if people started saying i'm going to travel to a foreign country as my duties as mayor right it doesn't make any sense right so can you play this video guys i was i wanted to actually say something about that
Starting point is 00:50:31 because i think the biggest one of the biggest issues right now is like even that i'm like that i made a mistake on is you see one thing posted and no one does a deeper dive they just believe the first thing they see absolutely and it and it's it's it's flooding the internet it is like what you when you say an ex your timeline is very very very curated because like basically if you buy enough if you have if you spend enough money that's what i'm telling you about how Barbara, right? Your timeline is fill of the same exact stories about Mamdani being anti-Semitic, about Muslims are terrorists, about its Hamas. So, because it is, let's see this. Yeah. Okay, play this please. That's what, that's fun. So this is,
Starting point is 00:51:16 this is just to give it, to give people context before you play it, this is during the primary election for the mayor of New York. So basically you have a pundit saying like it is how come a mayor of new york doesn't travel to israel and then the other candidates talking about how they feel about israel can you play it please who travels to israel these are all the candidates of the mayor of new york candidates yes go ahead any mayor that can't say they will go to israel someday as mayor should not be mayor where would you go first the holy land go to israel fourth trip to israel first trip to israel mr mom dana i would stay in new york city my plans are
Starting point is 00:51:56 to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that. It's just so, it is so offensive. If you're wondering what kind of world considers putting America first as offensive. Okay, stop that. So you see, as an American, as a new American, because you guys were born here, I've been only an American for a few years, and I come to this. I have to ask myself, why is the mayor of a city in America have to visit a foreign country, And why is it frowned upon, it is offensive if you say,
Starting point is 00:52:30 I'm going to stay in the city that I was voted for as mayor to serve its people? You understand the kind of brainwashing? I mean, that clip's crazy, yeah. Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else he stands for. I heard he's like a socialist. What, what, okay, we can discuss about how is a socialist, that's a different discussion. Yeah. And you can, and you can, and you can say,
Starting point is 00:52:49 I'm not going to vote for Mamdani because of his, uh, economic view. That is quite fair. but to make it a point that he has to visit a foreign country, and if he doesn't, that is enough for disqualifying him, even from the discussion. That is crazy. Why would a mayor need a visit a foreign country? Thank you.
Starting point is 00:53:09 And why is it like if you say that a federal, that's different, but if you're staying to serve your people that voted for you, why are you being penalized and it's offensive not to visit Israel? Why? New York's got enough problems. It's crazy, man. It's crazy. I think, like, he is trying to serve his people,
Starting point is 00:53:30 but he's being called anti-Semitic because he doesn't want to go to a foreign country. It's crazy, right? There's got to be other reasons they're saying he's anti-Semitic. I mean, like... Is there other reasons they say he's anti-Semitic? It can't just because of that. I mean, you tell me.
Starting point is 00:53:43 I don't know. I don't know either. I haven't, because it is very, the easiest thing is anti-Semitic. He is terrorists. He hate the Jews. And that's a conversation stopper. You know, you know, when you guys, is all about free speech, right?
Starting point is 00:53:57 Imagine every time you try to tell a joke, that's racist. Oh my God, that's so offensive. It's like, why? Why did I say? And nobody will explain to you why is it racist. And nobody will explain to you why is stupid. It's just like, and it's a way to intimidate people.
Starting point is 00:54:14 If you start calling people anti-Semitic, it's just like, like, anti-Semitism is dangerous, but it's not the only ism that matters. Right? You cannot just like stop people's conversations like that's anti-Semitic. Where is that is anti-Semitic? And you have to understand, like...
Starting point is 00:54:31 That's not. Yeah, exactly. That's not. When you have like, oh, he's a socialist, then let's talk about what do you mean he's a socialist? What is it? And when he say, like, he's going to do like affordable prices in supermarket, why is that socialist?
Starting point is 00:54:43 I'd have to look into it more. Yes, exactly. So you tell what you do? But if that would stop you from voting for him because he just say, I'm going to serve my people and stay for the country, for the city that voted for me, that is remarkable that is not anti-semitic it's pretty basic yeah yeah it's not well say what you say hmm yes yeah so you understand like if you say like social names like so people basic almost stuff for like almost for nothing health care and housing and
Starting point is 00:55:20 education in israel and it's doing that with our money that is not that is not even social and that is like grand theft you know like a boy is my money going there to support the lifestyle of people staying in illegal settlements built on Palestinian land that is fucking crazy man right have you heard about something called friends for the IDF friends of the IDF so friends of the IDF is a it's a very interesting piece of information it is one of their biggest leaders is Haim Saban, who is a Jewish American who was in Egypt, by the way.
Starting point is 00:55:57 He immigrated from Alexandria and he settled in the United States. That guy is so huge in the Hollywood business. That guy owns the franchise for Power Rangers. He needs Mutant Ninja Turtles. He produced so many movies for Arnold
Starting point is 00:56:13 Schwarzenegger and Silverstone. That guy is big. You know that? Boy, if you own Mutant Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers. No, he's huge, man. Do you know that the big museum for the Oscars in Fairfax like that's called the Sabban building right that's how big this guy is
Starting point is 00:56:29 this guy is famously known for a very famous saying he said I'm a one issue guy and my issue is Israel not America Israel right now he every single year he throws a gala dinner for something called France for the IDF
Starting point is 00:56:45 and like celebrities like Silverstice Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger and Gerard Butler come there Ashton Kutcher and they come there and they raise somewhere between $70 and $100 million per night tax exempt. So this is money
Starting point is 00:57:00 that should have gone to charity in the United States but it goes to a quote unquote charity to help veterans of the IDF having like better health care, having better education, having like better retirement plan. I mean what the fuck? I mean like you are actually doing tax right off
Starting point is 00:57:16 for celebrities who lived and got their money inside America to be sent to support the IDF and to support illegal settlements. It is fucking crazy, man, right? And you know what's so crazy? Like, you have people like Silversus Stallone and Arnold Schozenek who made their whole fame be doing movies, being like, saving America, supporting American soldiers. And yet they don't spend a penny on American soldiers, but they send it to a soldiers
Starting point is 00:57:47 of a foreign country, an army that is now known to. kill people on camera it's crazy man it's like you feed duped you feel that like where's my money is going right well a lot of americans are i see on the internet now are you know really turning on i think people are really fed up with it i mean they don't like how we're sending money to ukraine and they don't like how we're sending money to israel it's kind of the same thing right like why are we sending our tax money to other countries yeah but but you first of all you're sending far more money than Israel and second of all like at least like I don't I don't like actually sending money to Ukraine too but I just like all right you're sending it to Ukraine because
Starting point is 00:58:26 they're sending against like a nuclear power like Russia but you are sending money to Israel to kill civilians you know there's the equivalent of six Hiroshima bomb that were actually dropped in Gaza since the beginning of war they're calling the amount of explosive power you're you finance that without you having any say in it if this is not theft i don't know what it is so again i'm trying to explain to you the the anger that was it was directed against you far exceeds the fact that you just platformed nithu you're basically siding with everything that this country stands for and and many influencers like you who are having a like a huge platform are being used every day with these free trips to israel
Starting point is 00:59:17 in order to put makeup on a fucking genocidal regime and and in the same time you like getting the most racist tropes for Palestinians inside i mean that video guys like you did that's that it has 7.5 million views on youtube even if october 7 didn't happen you unknowingly were used as a part to launder their propaganda and give people and just like go into their heads and just like plant these horrible images about Palestinians so people's like oh there's like a bunch of people staying intense it's okay to kill them so you understand no I'm just trying to digest it yeah to be honest
Starting point is 01:00:05 yeah well there's a lot to digest yeah so it's so fuck The toughest thing, like, back to the starvation of the kids, right? Mm-hmm. Why aren't more other countries getting involved in trying to do air-drop? Well, let's talk about, like, no, first of all, you shouldn't be air-dropping. You're right, but I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah. But, like, okay, let's talk about other countries who try to involve.
Starting point is 01:00:30 Okay. Any country, like, who would try to do it, Israel, it's very easy, easy to Israel. Like, they're terrorists, they're supporting Hamas, and they bomb the shit out of us. Just Egypt tried to force in, it's not not to try to force, because nothing goes in without Israel approval. Because let's say, for example, Egypt comes like, okay, we're going to put our stuff in. Israel was going to bomb the convoy like they did many times, like Hamas.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Because you will have many people, like, oh, it's Hamas, it's terrorists. Once it's terrorists, you can do whatever you want, right? And the fact that other countries are trying and cannot do anything, it just tells you how much of a fucking bully this country is. They have already bombed Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Yemen. they have bombed the West Bank where they're supposedly not Hamas they have killed like thousands of people there and have already like have put 15,000 people in jail in the West Bank with nobody's talking about the West Bank just two days ago they a settler went in a settler went in and killed
Starting point is 01:01:30 a guy who was featured in an Oscar winning documentary and then the IDF came and they intimidated the rest of that guy family you understand this is happening on daily basis imagine being a Palestinian waking up having like a settler who came from New York and just taking your house kicking your people out and if you stand against them you kill them you want like other countries to get
Starting point is 01:01:52 involved who other countries to get involved America the strongest country in the world is being cocked but they're being dragged by the balls they can't do anything because their politicians are being openly bribed by that regime right this is the strongest fucking country in the world and they cannot do
Starting point is 01:02:08 anything and every time on then you have a slap on the oh Trump not Israel shouldn't do this and they do it every you know how many times Biden quote and quote like stopped their the arms like shipment and then they continued this is all performative man this is all performative all of these like bullshit statements from politician that doesn't do anything while the killing is happening you understand so this is where you're actually like why it's like other countries are not involved they tried to get involved and guess what they were called as anti-semitic they were called Hamas.
Starting point is 01:02:42 They had like UN workers being killed because they will tell you it's on or why it is Hamas. It's just like it's so it's so fucked up, right? It's very fucked up, right? But what I'm trying to understand and what, in your opinion, how do we solve this? How do we have peace? Like everyone wants peace, but how do we? No, no, no, how do you get peace? You need to get back to the root of the problem.
Starting point is 01:03:03 This is a genocidal country who's like basic, who's holding your politicians who have the power with the balls. So what needs to be done? what needs to vote those fucking people out right that's the and i and i i know it's not you don't have an immediate thing but you have like you're saying american politicians yeah yeah do you need to vote them out because these like why would you have every every american politician's been loyal to israel though yeah 80 percent of of to the israeli government what not zora yeah no zora yeah he's one of the few imam dani yeah like he's the he's the he's the few what yeah i mean this is the problem if you actually stand against the tide and you say like i'm not going to
Starting point is 01:03:40 to be loyal to a foreign country being called anti-semitic it's crazy right it's like how do you feel as an american when 80% of your representatives all of your mayors most of your governors are loyal to a foreign country in any other scenario you will call that fucking treason right so you see and i'm and i'm sorry that i don't have an immediate like answer for how to fix this because this is happening because other things has been happening for fucking years if you have
Starting point is 01:04:13 the strongest presence in the world being blackmail by fucking pedophil file this is crazy man this is crazy right
Starting point is 01:04:24 so I understand like the heat that you got as kids I'm sorry you're not kids as young men like at least you are like but you are not an American politician
Starting point is 01:04:38 who have been paid to be a fucking traitor your biggest mistake that you were not prepared that you were not informed and you didn't do enough effort in order to inform yourself that's a big mistake but i honestly this dwarfs next to the fucking daily treason that we see with american politicians that allows this to happen that goes into the media and laundering israeli crimes this dwarfs next to those fucking media people who are just mouthpieces of propaganda like Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk,
Starting point is 01:05:14 Megan Kelly, all of those fuckers, right? These are like 100% propaganda pieces for a foreign country. You have been betrayed by your politicians, by your media, by many of your influencers because they are being fucking paid. Right? So as much of a stupid stuff that you have done,
Starting point is 01:05:36 for me in my book you guys like at least you are now seeing what you're happening and you're trying to make sense out of it and you're trying to educate yourself and I hope that after this that you would go on
Starting point is 01:05:49 I don't want you to say like oh we're going to go back and do in stupid shit guys you need to be more involved at least educated right yeah right and I think maybe other influencers will see this as like okay the next time I get this fucking invitation from Israel
Starting point is 01:06:04 no I'm I know what I'm stepping into because it's not just like an innocent trip it is not just innocent propaganda nothing is free right
Starting point is 01:06:12 nothing is free right so it's it is it is so I and I and again I'm I'm not coming here I'm not
Starting point is 01:06:24 I told you before guys and I know I just like be straight like those guys were fucking scared shit just when I told them I would do it life I gain nothing
Starting point is 01:06:33 from destroying you i get nothing from dunking on you right i would actually rather deal with you as my younger brothers to understand what has been happening in front of your eyes all of that time and maybe in the future you will make something out of it whether you you you learn or not it's going to be up to you from now on shit's dark that's just dark man you ever get scared talking about this stuff Yeah. Well, I have got, like, I've got canceled. I have many of my shows being canceled. We need 24-hour security after this one. No, no, no, good. It's just no, which is crazy also. You are, you are American, you're Canadian, and you're living in the West with the free world, the freest country in the world, and you have to worry about speaking about a foreign country. It's crazy, man. It's, it's, it's dark. And listen, I need to address this.
Starting point is 01:07:32 because, like, you know, I feel for you, Stiney, right? And I think we should, like, you know, I want you to actually talk and talk about how difficult it is for you being like, you know, because I'm sure they're, like, friends from your, you've already been hated by one side, but there are people like from your friends, your immediate community who are actually like, or already angry. You said many times there's nothing for me to gain from this.
Starting point is 01:07:55 You said this many times. I want you to give you the space to, in order to just, like, talk about this. Yeah, I just think of the lack of education. and stepping into something so serious was probably a mistake. Yeah, it was. I mean, even since the Netanyahu interview, like just the amount of stuff I've tried to consume, like it really drains.
Starting point is 01:08:14 It's really draining. And the issue that I'm having, too, is, like, when you do your research, everything, it's just, like, so opposite. Yes. Consuming from both sides, and it's just like, which one do I believe? Exactly.
Starting point is 01:08:30 And I think that's a problem. I don't think there's, I mean, to step in there with Netanyahu, it wouldn't have been even something that we could have prepared for in a week, I think, in our position. Like, that's, you've got to be super qualified to do that, and I understand that. But also, you see, what you have said is very important that the amount of information,
Starting point is 01:08:52 that the conflicting information. So instead of going, that's why I chose this, instead of telling you this is wrong because, and this is wrong because there's evidence instead of providing evidence how do you deal with narcissistic psychopathic behavior you block them you know that everything that comes out of their mouth is a fucking lie
Starting point is 01:09:13 I just showed you that they have bribed our politicians they are they harbor pedophiles they have killed American soldiers they have done so much bad they have lied so many times so there is no reason for you to believe anything that comes out of their mind right okay let me say this in the mic so in order to provide this and i think this is something
Starting point is 01:09:42 that you can actually help in there they're going to be a button with click for people having sources are we going to have it in the description yeah yeah including uh jewish historians israeli historians so people don't say they're biased who talk actually about the the conflict and how what Israel have done to those people from a Jewish point of view who were fair right so you wouldn't say like oh just like the Arabs like doing it's not Hamas propaganda right and and you know it is it is there's things that I heard today and and you're saying it because you've been hearing it all your life like America is our biggest ally you know the biggest naval crisis one of the biggest name of first outside the Second World War was the U.S.
Starting point is 01:10:29 Liberty. It's like a U.S. vessel that has 34 Marines killed, and they were killed by an airstrike for Israel in 1967, right? By Israel? Yes. You can you can you can you can you can Google the U.S. Liberty. There they are the fact that they are they have the kind of hurt and a guide of damage that I have done to American finance, American politics, that it doesn't come from someone who you call yourself an ally. So the next time when you tell them about Israel is our biggest ally, you need to figure out why they're allies.
Starting point is 01:11:07 Nothing that they do. And not an ally, not a friend would do that to us. Right? There's so many. It's just like, and as you said, there's so much dark, and that at a certain point, it's like, oh, you're just obsessed with Israel.
Starting point is 01:11:18 Well, I am as obsessed with Israel as Netanyahu is obsessed with Hamas. Because every time it's like, and it's like, now I remember something, it's like, These people chant death to America, death to Israel. Just right now, they're like they have their football fans going around in Europe calling to death to Arabs and fuck Arabs and fuck Gaza.
Starting point is 01:11:39 What about him? Like the, where is it in Romania? Yeah, the fans going out in the streets, fuck Arabs. They have the chance of fuck Arabs, fuck Gaza, fuck Palestinians, like, kill you. It's just like, these are like a genocidal sick people, man. man. And this is, this, it's, and they need to be penalized and need to, there's consequences of that shit. Anyways, I took too long, and I promised to you that I'm not going to go long, and I think there is enough information. How long we've been going for, Judge? It's like an hour
Starting point is 01:12:14 25 minutes. I mean, I think this was very informative. Yeah, an hour 10, hour 10, you see? Thank you. Thank you. You've been very cool during this entire process. I really appreciate you. Yeah. You were, you were, I said, like, and I promise I'm not going to go over time. And I, I I think there's a lot of, there, I think there's a lot. There's a lot. I learned a lot this week, but even just sitting here now, I learned a lot, a lot more, and there's a lot more to look into. And yeah, we have a big platform.
Starting point is 01:12:42 I think sometimes we don't realize how big it is. Yeah. And the kind of, um, of influence that you have. We just feel like such normal guys like, I don't know, so sometimes we just take it for granted, I think. Normal guys, normal guys will not have like a paid trip to it. No. I know.
Starting point is 01:13:01 I know. Nothing's free. I'm just saying that it is very curated. You have to understand now. Every time you hear it, you hear something coming out of there must. You need to remember, these are psychopathic liars. These are murderers. These are people who have made genocide into a fucking industry.
Starting point is 01:13:19 And they're using your money to do so. All right. Well, we appreciate you coming on. It was very informative and we appreciate you. I feel like we're going to be. Yeah, we're going to be going to work out. Once I recover from my surgery, we're going to work up to the gym. When you recover from the surgery?
Starting point is 01:13:38 Yeah, if you hear next week, I might come back. When I started looking into you, I told them, I started searching you up. And then all I see is Jack showed, Jack, uh, yeah, uh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I want by I say, the t-shirt I'm wearing, this is the t-shirt for something called the Gaza Sunbirds. Some, the Gaza, some birds, these are like a group of cyclists in Gaza. all of them are amputees because they were basically bombed by Israel and they this is one of the like the stuff that you this like it shouldn't be normal anywhere but it is normal in Gaza and I was in London I was supporting them with this movie called
Starting point is 01:14:15 like Doctors Under Attack which is a documentary done by the BBC and then the BBC bailed out because they didn't want to like because it was so fucking dark it shows how Israel is systematically killing doctors and it's like you have more three times the chance of being killed if Israel know that you're a doctor they killed 30 they destroyed 36 hospitals and the wall of Gaza they tortured them they raped them they raped male doctors in custody it is again it's very dark and I sent you that documentary so we can watch it and to understand what is the other side means right uh Those amputees and the Gaza sunbirds, they were deliberately sniped by snipers with shots around their knees.
Starting point is 01:15:06 You know, if you, like, in this area, it's like a guaranteed either a gangrene or an amputation. So they do it on purpose. And now we have like a group of people who are just amputees on bicycles. This is how bad it is. That's why I'm kind of like wearing this because a normal activity like cycling is not normal in Gaza. I think they have the only big league where all of the soccer players are amputees.
Starting point is 01:15:41 Again, they are victims of the Israel brutal killing every single day. They have people shooting little kids in their genitals. They have people that they are being taken from the streets. tortured, raped, killed. It is fucking crazy, man. And I'm telling you, that's why that video about the trip of Israel, this is like you're going to Nazi Germany in 1938, a year after the war. Before the war, it is laundry, it's propaganda, and you've been used very badly,
Starting point is 01:16:15 and then they don't fucking care about you. They're now letting you, like, Netanyahu came in, and then they're letting you save the crowd, face the crowd. It's fucking brutal. And that's why I didn't want this to be another beating. I just wanted this to be a cautionary tale for people being used on the internet by Israel. That is actually the bigger picture here. No, I appreciate just all our conversations before this too. You've been nothing but a gentleman and a good guy.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Yeah, you see, the Israeli crowd is effectively protesting for the right to rape. They were so mad that people telling them you should not rape prisoners in custody. This is fucking crazy. This is how sick those people are. I know there's a lot to, there's a lot to digest, a lot to do it. And yeah, anyways. I think I learned a lot. I think it was very educational, informative.
Starting point is 01:17:08 And I think it was a good one for our first live podcast. Yeah, man. I think. I don't know. Do we have a number? Can we track people like watching and whatever? Oh, that's a good. 17,000 people watching live.
Starting point is 01:17:24 Okay, so I think when you put it on tag, yeah, I think when you put it on the, on YouTube afterwards, what? Oh, that's good, good. So I think it's good. Yeah. Yeah. Wonderful. I haven't looked at the chat, but I felt like it was a good combo, but I guess we'll find out.
Starting point is 01:17:37 Well, you're gonna have a lot of hate anyways. Yeah, I know. Dude, okay. Tell me, tell me what, tell them what you told me like, what do you want to do after. It's like, dude, I just want to get out of it. I don't want to have anything to do with this. anymore. I feel for you, Ben, you haven't slept for days. It's really hard to step into. What? Yeah, it's really hard to get into this.
Starting point is 01:17:56 Yeah. Yeah. You haven't slept for days, right? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is, yeah. Yeah. It is, yeah. I understand that, like, all of your life, you've been told something. I mean, you were telling me something that I found it very weird like thank you being very nice sitting with me i'm like when i'm jewish it's like dude you've been told all your life that i you be you're being hated because you're a jew that is that is that is that is terrible that too but also just the response no no yeah it's it's that it has nothing to do with you being jewish right it is like you have been brainwashed for so many years to make you not see any way forward other than siding with those people again those people and like Many Jewish people will tell you they've been using your identity,
Starting point is 01:18:53 using your religion to advance a very genocidal evil policy. So, again, you will take your time to learn from this, and I hope this has been a learning experience for everybody watching. Guys, did you guys learn something new today? You're happy? Good. I learned a lot about everything. Good, and we will put the file and the sources of everything, and I hope you guys get some sleep after this.
Starting point is 01:19:21 Yeah, we will. Thank you, Bassam. We appreciate you guys. Thank you. Thank you, thank you, guys.

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