FULL SEND PODCAST - Bassem Youssef | Ep. 162
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All right, everybody.
Welcome to another episode of the FulSem podcast.
This is actually our very first live episode we've ever done.
It's an interesting one for our first live.
We're making history.
We're making history.
We have Steini here, and I want to welcome Basim Youssef to the Folsom podcast.
Thank you for being with us.
How are you doing?
Thank you for having you guys.
Of course.
Obviously, last week was controversial for us, to say the least.
We had someone on the podcast, very controversial, as I said, to say it in the least form.
What was your reaction when you saw that we had Benjamin Netanyahu on the fullsum?
Well, I didn't know about what I am sorry to say, because I'm not your,
demographic so I didn't know who the Nelke boys is but like I found my DMs exploding so did you see
what the hell boys did it's like who the fuck on the Nelke boys and then I I didn't know that you're
that big I'm sorry again I'm not your your targeted demography so I I apologize for my ignorance
so and then I started following what's going on and the aftermath and being in the public eye for 15
I understand what does it mean to be in a very tough situation
and now trying to crawl out of that situation,
it's difficult, especially with the backlash,
because the bigger you are, the bigger the backlash.
And, I mean, let's be honest,
there's a lot of people when they knew that I'm on the podcast,
like, yeah, go there, do them, you know, have them.
And I said, like, there's nothing to gain
from just canceling people without knowing what went wrong.
because I think it is better to actually learn from what's happening
and look at the bigger picture
instead of just like, you know, destroying two young people like you
because that doesn't serve anybody, right?
It just makes people happy that you guys are falling,
but the bigger picture is why did this happen
and why would this, how were you used,
a part of you is your responsibility and part of you not knowing.
So I heard many of the justification that happened saying that, well, you know, it was a great
opportunity and I'm like, wouldn't you like get him on the podcast?
Yes, if somebody told me, would you interview Nathaniel?
It's like, hell yeah, but I'll be prepared.
And I think the biggest part of you that you were not prepared, two years under like the biggest
genocide in our history, you guys had no idea what's going on.
somebody told me hey you're going to be tomorrow on the starting five of the
Lakers and the NBA as like that's a great opportunity but I'm not prepared I'm
not going to make a fool out of myself so it's not about you platforming someone
or someone giving a chance for like free speech you were used right and it
didn't start with the podcast it started two years ago in March 2023 when you
went to Israel because I know like I told you that
The Israel has increased their Hasbara budget, which is their propaganda machine, with $150 million.
And part of that money goes to influence people in college campuses,
higher influencers like you, getting them into fancy trips to Israel,
giving them this filtered, layered picture that is made up, that is fake.
I mean, I watched it yesterday, and I was cringing because, not because, like, you're showing,
how cool Israel is, or they have nightclub.
You're saying our NELC video in Israel?
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
So because the part when you mentioned Palestine, do you remember,
we're going to a place that is so dangerous now.
Palestine.
And then you are in a bus, and then, like, special forces come in and kidnap you,
and this is kind of, like, IDF simulation, counterterrorism.
And then they're telling you, we have a dog that only breeded in Israel.
It can kill a man.
And you understand that, like, the kind of psychopathic behavior,
of a country that like tells you like part of its like tourist attraction that we're killing
terrorists and we're breeding dogs to kill human beings and by the way I don't know part of the
anger is like just last year there was like a kid with autism and down syndrome that was
killed by one of these dogs and then the next scene is let's go and see Palestinian family
and the only Palestinian family in this video are just like a bunch of bend ones in a tent
a guy who's married two wives and he tells you my whole life is about camels and goats and chicken
and then you find like a 60 years old one i just live on pita bread and milk so even if october
seven didn't happen you were used in a propaganda machine to to tell people this is what you need
to know about Palestinians they're just like a bunch of people with cows and and goats marrying
two people living in a tent happy with a pita bread and milk so you
You were recruited in March, 23, and you were activated in July 2025, right?
So, and I'm saying this because I'm saying this out there for all of the influencers around there,
because there's a lot of people got backlash.
There's influence who went there, like, wearing IDF.
It's like, we didn't know what we're going on.
Like, Hughes, like, I didn't know I'm kissing a Jewish wall.
I mean, yeah, I can definitely admit that, I mean, I think we were both just ignorant to,
what was going on over there.
And obviously, you know, I knew he was,
I'll be honest, I thought he was controversial,
but I was definitely ignorant to what was going on in that area.
And I can admit that.
And it was definitely, I regret.
I wish we could have gone back and, you know,
had two weeks to sit down with someone like yourself
and just we should have grilled him 50,000, 100,000 times harder,
but something we can't get back.
And we'll probably always regret that.
Of course, but I know you can't get back this like trip in Israel,
but I'm just telling you this was like part of a much bigger propaganda effort, right?
And a country that spends $150 million on its image, they are covering something.
When they spread all of these propaganda, it's like, we're not starving people in Gaza.
You understand that this conversation has been happening for two years. First of all, I'm not
absolving you from your trip. You guys are not little kids. You are fucking 30 years old, right? People in your
age have families and they have they they have a career and you cannot just you cannot you need to
stop and i'm just saying this because you're my little brothers but you're not little right you need to
stop infantilizing yourself it's like we're just stupid people doing stupid stuff you're 30 years old
and you need to be aware of what's happening in the world and that your reach and your platforms
mean something and it affects people and i think the biggest reason why people are so upset for you
not because you brought someone and you didn't contest him,
that it is the talking point that he used
is the same talking points that have been used for two years
to kill thousands of people, right?
So, I mean, and part of the reason why
where people were so angry is that forget,
even if you don't know anything about the conflict,
there was like a total lack of critical thinking.
I mean, you guys asked him the one good question.
When you told them in October 7th,
How could this be allowed to happen?
Everybody knowing that Musad is like a crazy, intelligent thing that infiltrates people and put bombs in pages.
How did you not see that coming?
But also, a critical thinking is how come an attack was allowed for six hours in the most heavily surveilled part in the world?
You understand, like, in 2019, they killed, like, tens, hundreds of people just because they approached the...
the the wall between gaza and israel you understand they killed me there you have like cop copters
like drones you have snipers suddenly for six hours in a remember what uh what nittineau told me how
big is israel you told me it's it's like as big as road island as jersey right yeah like it
you understand the distance between gaza and tel aviv is is 44 miles you understand that like he was just
bragging to you that's like, hey, we went across three countries to bomb Iran. But you can't
have a single helicopter coming out to defend your people? Like the October 7th was used in order
to tell people, look to the Jewish people that were killed. But you don't understand that you
pay a million of dollars as Americans as as Canadians to protect those Jewish people. So it's not
just like an intelligence failure. It was a deliberate
way to let people get
slaughtered and what did he tell
you when you asked him what happens? We're still
investigating it. Really investigating for
two years? You don't know how people for six hours
continued to kill people.
That's why when people, we went on
other people podcast and they told you guys
they used the Hannibal Directive. They killed their
own people and I sent you all of the stuff.
What was your reaction? Do it, that's
conspiracy. Again, people were
angry because you didn't read what's
going on there, right? Israel
uses something called Blitzk
You know what? Splits Creek? It means flash attack. This is the Nazi did. They do like a very
coordinated attack very quickly, very fast. And it's like very simple messaging. Decapitated babies,
mass rape, right? So there's an emotional response. People get so angry. And then after a couple of
days, everybody goes back to their Netflix, to their UFC fight, to the NBA. And the people
who stay as like, wait a minute, that is fucked up. That didn't happen. There is
So many plot holes, already most of the people has already went back to their lives.
So the people who stay and hold them accountable will be called fringe, obsessed, anti-Semitic.
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you said oh dude this is conspiracy theory it's not and this is why I have like sent you
all of the videos so you can be educated when you were on the podcast and they were telling you dude
they spit on Christians in Israel that's like I was in Israel nobody spit on me yes of course
because you were in a curated propaganda machine
that showed you one thing about Israel.
Do you remember when you were like in that bus
and there was a guy with a scarf?
It's like, oh, that guy with a scarf,
like, I don't know if you or someone of your friend said,
he looks suspicious.
It's not that cold.
So the only representation of Palestinian
are either people staying in a tent
or a suspicious guy with a scarf.
And I don't know who edited that.
It seems like Musad edited it.
And if you guys have edited it,
that that is fucked up because it just, just like solidifies the same racist tropes
about a group of people that being slaughtered and staffed to death right now.
And then they distract you with questions like, it is Hamas.
It's the people they're not allowing aid in.
And you understand that this is the same exact conversation that's been happening for two years.
They bomb hospitals.
It's not us.
It's Hamas.
Oh, it's us.
But they were Hamas underneath it.
It's maybe a mistake.
then after bombing hospital they bomb schools and then they bomb entire residential areas then they
kill women and children and now two years later we're we're discussing the same question but like
are we starving them or is it hamas starving them you see the cycle of deceit the cycle of lies the
cycle of propaganda so that's why i'm not coming here to say like oh they are starving because
i'm not going to go after each and every single lie that he said because it's exhausting and
And they have been doing that for two years.
So I'm here to show you the patterns and the bigger picture
to understand that you were sitting with a narcissistic psychopathic liar
that's used to gaslighting people and lie them to them in their faces.
Yeah, I want to say too, yeah.
We obviously, one thing that hurt me the most when we had him on
was just I have a lot of personal, you know, friendships and stuff
from people of all religions.
And a lot of people were obviously just upset
and they were messaging me personally, like friends
and saying, why did you have him on?
and stuff so when i told them that we're having you on to explain us the bigger picture they're
all very excited so honestly we just want to we just want to learn about this and we obviously just want
to use our platform to educate people what do you want to learn about i mean i think it would just
be good for you to to talk about what net and yahoo said and explain us you know well one thing i said
about the october 7th like you know he uh and and i like the not just october 7th is the way that he
dehumanize a whole population.
Remember when he told me,
how can young people march in the streets with people who kill gays?
And then he used this like overplayed lame jokes.
Like gays for Gaza is like chicken curve for KFC.
And it's just like he keeps saying it in everywhere.
And he just sounds stupid.
And they tell him, they are like, they would kill women if they're not in hijab.
So this guy who pretends that he cares about gays,
and women and I send you the articles like how they have actually use revenge porn in order
to recruit gay people they go into Grindr and Facebook and Instagram like I think you have the
the the headline F goes on grindy yeah yeah yeah they got and they actually pick those gay people
and then they use revenge porn in order to hire them as informants you have that yes
so over the past several months i spoke to there's like there's a lot of queer
palestinians that's actually been used by the idf in order to actually hire them
and informants and then the same guy who cares about women and children he already killed more
than 28 000 women and children in the less than a year and a half and again they use revenge
porn there's even a movie about it made by like uh an an oscar nominated director uh he's a palestinian
and it's called hoda salon and they told
talk about how for very many years they have spiked women's drinks in beauty salons in order
to shoot them and film them in compromise position and then use them or use their husbands
and informants. So you understand the level of pathology and the level of narcissistic behavior,
the level of evil these people are doing, and then they have the audacity to come and talk
about gay people and talk about women. This is crazy, man. You understand? And I went and I sent
you that stuff in order to look and verify.
And this is why the reason we're doing this in live,
because I invite anybody to fact-check everything that I say as we go on.
So you're saying Israel is they're recruiting gay people from Palestine and using them as informants?
That's happening out in the West Bank, yes.
Wow.
So what about what about some of the stuff Netanyahu said?
I know this is for you is probably basic.
But what he said, we asked him if he was purposely starving people in Gaza,
and he said Hamas is stealing the food.
It's interesting that we would actually take the war of an indicted war criminal
and a guy who's been caught lying many times.
Like, for example, when he say Iran is days away from creating a nuclear bomb.
And there's videos of the Internet of him saying many times,
oh, Iran is like five months away, three months away.
And you understand when you asked him about Iraq,
oh and he said that's unfortunate and yet he has a video saying iraic is
month away of creating weapons of mass destruction i've seen that video i've seen the video of him
talking about iran yeah so so you see you see a guy that like if you have a friend
steiny and you if you have a friend that consistently lies to you and he caught up lying
when would it be enough to say okay that guy i'm not going to take anything he says now the
thing about like him saying we're not starving it's hamas uh there is uh there's also a
some of the articles that I send you, there is like multiple articles of Israel killing aid workers,
UN workers, saying that they are Hamas. You know, they have killed over like, I don't know the number
100 to 100 people of aid workers. They are like lining people in aid lines and then they are
killing them. When they tell you. So people that are not even involved in the conflict.
They're aid workers. They, I think, I think the number is like they killed over 180 doctors.
or it's just it's it's the numbers is like so big now you can't even like catch up with the numbers
and uh i was in london they were playing uh the world premiere of a documentary called doctors under
attack and it shows you it's a documentary done by the bbc by the way it shows you how okay
oh to their yeah it's over 400 austinians and of course it's very easy to say oh the united
nations is anti-semitic everybody is anti-semitic everybody is lying and
only one who's not lying is Netanyahu right so those people that they're so like this one
for example is this like a bombing or is this just like they're coming and like gunning them down
they're gunning them down they're using they're using drones and killing them there's there even
like a whistleblower that came a couple of days ago who was working with the eight groups and he said like
there's like a little kid who came and kissed our hands because we gave him food and as he was
walking away the idea if shot him in the head it's crazy man and this was like almost a month
ago not only yeah yeah so so 400 people those are civilians yeah but that's that that's that number
gets updated by the minute right now and it's you can just like you can go through the headlines if
you want but that the reason that I'm like showing you do this is that Israel is the only one
who has the absolute control of getting aid in and out and I know that you've seen on the internet
they're they're showing their soldier here's the aid sitting here the UN is not taking
them do they are killing you and workers and calling them Hamas if you start calling
everybody Hamas the doctors are Hamas the kids are Hamas the UN or older
there is no way for people to go in and do anything you see you know how desperate
people are people are riding on boats and trying to get aid in in these flotillas
and one of them is like a comedian that you work with his name is jacob burger is jewish
by the way from new york and he was arrested by the idf and one of them he's a he's the only
Yeah, and the only one, the only black dude on that Flotella, he was beaten and tortured and he's American, right?
So you understand the level of psychopathy that you're dealing with.
It's not about like our word against their word anymore because they have all of these people activated like you.
They tried to recruit you, whether influencers or people in the media telling it's, look, it's not starving.
It's just not happy.
It's not our fault.
You remember, I told you before, it's the same.
argument they used before they bombed every single hospital in in gaza it's not us it's hamas they
bombed every single school in gaza it's not us in hamas they killed 60 000 people it's hamas fault
it's you see the pattern you see the pattern you know that the most viral video i did with p s morgan
is when i said like israel is a narcissic psychopath like a boyfriend who fucks you over
and makes you think their fault you know why this like resonated with so many people it's just because
the narcissistic psychopathic behavior right so they are like a bunch of liars a bunch of
killers a bunch of murders and it it is and then it's it's easy for them to just like get out
with and say like it is fucking Hamas so what what is like the ideal situation in that area
the ideal situation that israel should not be coming in and occupying a country that's not
theirs and I know that you went there and you you were raised all your life saying that this is
our country, our place.
You understand that Israel started by refugees from Europe,
people who escaped the Nazis.
This was a European problem.
Most of those people were in Ukraine and Russia and Poland and Germany,
and then they went through incredible hardship.
Why would they come to the Middle East
and take a land that belonged to other people?
That is the core of the problem.
The core of the problem is not just starvation or the daily killing.
it is people coming in and trying to take a land from other people
and of course you grew up as a Jewish person telling you
this was an empty land and we just came in there was no one there
there were already 2 million Arabs living there
before Israel have even been conceived
and in one night 700,000 people were displaced overnight
in 15th of May in 1948 when they declared the state of Israel
you understand the amount you have like your grandparents are like holocaust survivors they wouldn't like another holocaust to be happening in their name and they wouldn't if if you have a problem with germany go fucking get take a piece of land from germany man you understand like where my people are coming from like we were just sitting here and you have like a problem in in europe and then you were pushed on us and say like this is our land now get the fuck out you understand how sick this is
You know how unfair this is?
You understand?
So we can discuss about, like, what is happening now with the situation?
You need to go, again, the bigger picture and understand why this happened.
Right?
Those people who are, who are, Netanyahu sat in front of you and saying, like, Hamas is terrorists.
They are the one who actually started terrorism in the Middle East.
They are one who started bombing hotels, bombing people.
the amount like if you just like go in and write the terror and i invite the internet to actually
fact check this the terrorism of the zionist militias in palestine right the dozens of people that
they have been killing you know all of the stuff that you have been they have like you know
killing pregnant women decapitated people this is the exact same thing that they did in massacres like
dariacine there in subra and chitela they have been you know there's a uh
a very famous line saying like every accusation is a confession every time they they blame
Hamas for using human shield they are the one who's being using human shield right they're
actually in 2005 the israeli supreme court made a verdict saying you need to stop using human
shield because they were using it so much there's like a recorded 1,200 incidences of them using
human shield between 2001 and 2005 that is crazy
man right so you are every time you see them accusing Palestinians of doing it they have done it
many times before even more brutal yeah one thing I see on the internet now too is a lot of
Americans are questioning like is is Israel our closest ally why are they are closest ally
why are we sending so much money to Israel I think I mean I see it I mean even Trump now recently
I think it was yesterday or two days ago.
It seems like he's not even agreeing with Netanyahu now.
I saw Canada just recognized Palestine as a state.
Yeah, but in the same time, Trump said, like, well, I think Canada couldn't be our partner anymore, which is crazy.
You are basically sacrificing Canada, which is actually your closest ally because of Israel.
Well, what I was going to ask is why does America consider Israel its closest ally?
No, America doesn't consider Israel the closest ally.
It's the American politicians.
Right.
So why are the American politicians so loyal to Israel?
Well, follow the money, right?
80% of Congress are openly financed by APEC, which is the Israeli lobby.
So when you finance 80% of your Congress, you're representative,
suddenly a foreign country is more important than your own country, right?
I think you were asked many times, Tiny, are you American first or are you Israel?
first and you said no i'm american first you wouldn't like to have your tax money going to a country
being and using that to kill children while your count your your your fellow americans in places
like texas and north carolina suffering from floods and not getting the aid they're get there is
i think there is uh the graph with the 17 million billion dollars only into by the way so far since
the beginning of the conflict not the conflict there's slaughter since october 2028
America sent Israel more than $30 billion.
$17.9 billion in 2024 alone.
$17 billion.
That's crazy.
You know how many schools that you can build with that?
You know how many teachers that you can pay?
You know how many houses that you can give for the homeless?
Why is your money going to a foreign country and using this
to inflict the most evil genocide on innocent people?
Right?
Right.
So what's the, why do you think that American politicians are?
No, I'm just told you because of the money.
Like the AIP.
Oh, because they're being paid to yourself.
APEC is openly bragging about financing 80% of Congress with $100 million.
Do they openly brag about that?
Oh, yeah, yeah.
I invite everybody to go into the APAC Twitter and see them bragging about it.
It was like 98% of the people that we, that we,
that we promote, they win their elections.
And this is the graph, and I was telling about the U.S. sent $17.9 billion in only
2024.
This is how much you can do with that amount of money.
And instead, it is going to buy weapons.
It's going to settlers in the West Bank, American Jews maybe, Jews from other places,
who live there with, like, very low rent housing,
they have better education, better health care than any American here, which is crazy.
Why is my money going there?
I know, Stanley, I saw you on many of the podcast saying,
like, it is very difficult for me as a Jewish-American living there,
and I understand it's difficult,
but it was misunderstood because people said,
this is so tone-depth, this is so self-centered.
It's not about you guys.
But I kind of understood it in a, you know,
I wanted to give you the benefit of the doubt,
that maybe it is difficult because there's a whole genocidal state right now,
using your identity and using your religion in order to commit unspeakable crimes right but
also you need to understand what does it mean to be a Palestinian American right
now you understand how difficult it is to a Palestinian American sitting here
seeing his family slaughtered and star and that is being done by their own tax money
can you imagine can you imagine like you're sending money to your family to for
example build a bakery and then you see that bakery destroyed on
phone and then turbo tax takes your money and finance the bomb that fucking bomb that
you understand that the kind of mind fuck that those people are living in like yes
anti-semitism is a real thing but you understand that it is that you haven't seen three
jewish people being shot because they spoke hebrew right i have three palestinian friends
they were in brown universe they were speaking arabic and they were shot and one of them cannot
walk for the rest of his life right there was like a Palestinian kid six years old who was stabbed
26 times right after October 7th because of the kind of fear that was launched against Muslim
Americans right there was a Palestinian there was like an Indian Muslim kid that was almost drowned
in Texas by a Jewish woman her name is Elizabeth Wolff as a hate crime if these if the roles were
reversed if those kids were Jewish you wouldn't hear the end of it but I'm telling you this and I can see in your
eyes. It's the first time you ever heard about this. This is crazy. This is manufactured.
So part of me is angry at you guys for not knowing, but part of me, I have empathy for you
because this is the kind of a bubble that was created intentionally by the media to tell you
that all the perpetrators, the people on the other side are the terrorists, that are the evil
people, and Israel is our greatest ally. This is prime brainwashing. So you understand what I mean?
So when you say, like, it's difficult to be Jewish, yes, I understand, but it is, it is kind of like you are.
I think it's the, I can't speak for Stani, but I have other Jewish friends.
And what they all say to me is what Israel's doing right now makes it tougher to be prideful of, you know, being Jewish.
Yeah, but the biggest thing is.
I don't want to speak to.
No, no, no, but you understand.
But you see the mistake here is like now you're linking being Jewish to being pro-Israel.
It's like me linking being Muslim to being pro-ISIS.
It's like being proud to be German to be a Nazi.
Because that is what Israel is, right?
And it is, this is a regime, a state, a genocidal state,
that hijacked your identity as Jewish,
and then started to tell everybody,
if you start to question Israel, you're being anti-Semitic.
You know what does that tell you?
That being a good Sematic means that you have to approve for starving kids,
killing babies, raping prisoners in prison,
genociding a whole population, kicking them out.
That is what does it mean to be a good Jewish.
That is crazy, man.
That is actually the most anti-Semitic thing ever.
Do you think, in your opinion,
do you think what Israel is doing is making some people anti-Semitic, though?
Oh, 100%.
100%.
Let me give an example.
Have you seen those videos of the IDF soldiers
dancing with lingeries and toys or babies?
Have you seen that?
Yeah.
the world is run by one thing discipline right you if you are in the army and you start posting
shit like that your commanders are either allowing you to do this or if if they don't they will
actually what the fuck are you doing right because this is the army right you're not allowed to just like
post shit other than actually the army kind of approving to it so it is by design i actually i
ask a professor in london it's like why are they actually doing that in purpose like it's very
very easy because it is much easier for Israel to be hated and then having them conflate that hate
with Jewish people and when that happens you see anti-semitism give us more money to kill our
enemies you understand it's like it's a very very sick psychology and the people who are paying
for this are Jewish people right because now you are finding yourself inheriting everything
that this regime is doing right and it is the whole idea about being an a Jewish person
is being as being a pro-Israel it's crazy right you know like a couple of days ago Trump pushed
Colombia to pay 21 million dollars for support the Jewish people for the psychological trauma
and it really it's crazy because we haven't heard of Jewish people being expelled from
Colombia there are people who lost their immigration status for standing pro-Palestine
and not pro-Israel, there's not a single Israeli
because of his stand from being pro-Israel
who lost their job, got deported,
being blacklisted with the company, being doxed.
This is what happened on their side.
And the Jewish people who actually got hurt
were the people on the pro-Palestinian side.
There are like Jewish professors
who lost their position
because they stood with the pro-Palestinian side.
But they don't talk to you about that.
They want you to think it is Jewish people
against everybody else.
They don't talk to you about the Jewish voices for peace.
The people who are, their slogan is not in my name.
We will not allow Israel to use our name in order to continue with the genocide.
They are not telling you about the Israeli bloc that was in all of the university protest
or in all of the protests in London and in Paris and in New York.
They want to, again, the same image that they were created in Israel,
the way that they used that propaganda in order to,
to blind you of what's happening, they're not telling you about the other side.
So they keep putting you in that box.
It is Jewish people against everybody else.
It is not true.
Talking about patterns, like you said earlier,
some of the documents you sent us that I found interesting
was just the history dating back
of how long Israel has been influencing America's government.
Yes.
Can you talk to us about some of that?
Yeah, well, it's, well, you have a lobby group,
called APAC which is which should under American Lobby registered as a foreign entity a foreign
lobby group but it's not and because of it's mentioned it is registered as local it is allowed
to raise so much money and act as a local lobbying group right and because of that they are
allowed to openly pay all of these politicians in order to write bills and to pass law
to protect Israel and one that they protect the United States, right?
And people will say, this is conspiracy theory.
Are you telling us that Israel is controlling America?
It's not really a conspiracy theory, because if you think about it,
a country is run by a government and government is run by people.
And if you buy enough people, you control the government.
Am I right?
Yeah, for sure.
Am I right?
I mean, if not just Israel, if any government was doing that, it would be a problem, right?
I mean, and I send you even a video of like American senators and congressmen
having the Israeli flag outside of their room.
They are tweeting, I stand with Israel
while there are people suffering from floods in North Carolina.
There is like a town in Texas that made people sign a pledge
to not boycott Israel if they want to have flood aid,
which is crazy, right?
If I told you, hey, your house was destroyed in the floods,
why don't you write a pledge to make sure that you not boycott Egypt?
You will get furious, right?
right so why is this allowed to happen man how why is this allowed to happen why is
every congressman every media person is just going there and and putting israel in such like a
high place over his own country if this is not treason i don't know what it is like do you like
do you sign it you pay taxes right you guys like doing well for yourself yeah would you accept
that your taxes to go to support like a foreign country except instead of like
supporting your own American fellows, like going into the infrastructure of your own country?
No.
Yeah?
Yeah.
So it is, that's why it's like the bigger picture here that the system is much more broken
than you think.
It's not about like me going after everything lied that Indian Inejo said.
It's about giving you the bigger picture of how these are very curated, a very, oh yeah,
this is American Israel.
Yeah.
This is how much money.
that they have spent and given $51 million in contribution to Israel or Israel?
No, no, no, no, this is this is, this is, to, to, uh, American politicians.
This is how much like this is the kind of, where's this from?
Uh, uh, uh, this is American public affairs. Yeah.
Is there, is there any type of other government, I mean, when Russia was doing it,
everyone thought they were doing it.
Yeah.
As I remember, like, oh, the Russian interference, the Russian interference.
Like, guys, like, you don't even need it.
And people say it's a conspiracy, but, like, you don't need a conspiracy.
You have people opening.
They're basically, we're giving you $100 million.
Give me back $30 billion.
That's the best.
That's better than crypto, man.
I mean, I would, I would invest in APEC.
If APEC was a Bitcoin, I would invest in it, right?
What else does Israel do to influence America's government in the past?
I mean, this is like some deep shit.
I'm kind of honestly scared to talk about it.
No, why talk about it?
Don't worry.
It's good.
Oh, I know.
I just, yeah.
We're in a unique situation.
Yeah, you are right.
Yeah.
So what do you want to talk about?
No, just like, I mean, I've seen some of the documents you've talked about, like,
give me an example.
Blackmailing and.
Oh, the blackmailing.
It's, uh, yeah, I mean, like we've been, a lot of people are talking about the Epstein
files right now, right?
What do you think about the Epstein files?
I think it's, it's not a good look.
What's going on right now?
Why?
just because I think the
I mean I think the Republicans kind of ran on releasing it
I think yeah a lot of you know people feel the same way
I think there's there's clips of people in the administration saying
we need to release it and now it's not getting released so
it's not and have you been reading about like you know
Gilane Maxwell the one that was with him and then she was like the
kind of like a hundred percent moose ad acid and then you have
cash Patel the FBI director who says
saying, like, America needs to wake up and prioritize Israel.
And I said, like, why is the FBI, the deputy of the, the head of the FBI telling me
that I, as an American, need to prioritize Israel?
I mean, I mean, you see, you see the pattern.
You see how fucked up this is, right?
And then before he goes, go into the FBI, we're going to release the Epstein file.
After the other than there is no Epstein files.
And in the middle, we need to prioritize Israel.
You connect the doubt.
I think they need to release it because it's not a good one.
But you understand the fact that you have a country in the Middle East,
not just taking your money, but blackmailing your politicians, including your presidents.
You've seen that the article that I sent you at the time of Israel
about the Monica Lewinsky thing and the Big Clinton thing.
I mean, this is crazy.
That's why it just, like, it drives me crazy when I...
Can you explain that to our audience?
Yeah, so there's a book...
The history to me is fascinating.
Yeah, there's like a book written by an Israeli.
author and it was actually discussed as the headlines in time of Israel of how actually Israel
have blackmailed bill Clinton with the Monica Lewinsky tape in order for him to release an
Israeli spy who actually stole our nuclear secrets and sent it to America. Yeah. So it is things like
that which drives me crazy when people tell me Israel is our biggest ally. An ally will not do that to you.
An ally will not steal your nuclear weapons, will not black,
blackmail your presidents with whatever files they have with sexual files in order to release a spy
will not blackmail your politicians with a fucking love island with with with with with with with
with with with with with young girls it's crazy right yeah it's it's why do you think they allowed
him to campaign on that so hard then what do you mean like why why would they this trump campaigned on
that yeah yeah that he was going to release it yeah well yeah maybe maybe maybe he didn't know that
that they had something on it
Maybe they thought that, like, everything was on Clinton.
Maybe he didn't know.
And then, like, we have Ilumas saying, well, he's in the files.
And then he's like, I'm not in the files.
And that Pat Bond is like, I have the files on my desk.
And then suddenly we don't have the files.
It makes you think, right?
And you know, like Trump was asked straight up, would you release the Epstein files?
It's like, well, it can destroy a lot of people's like, yeah, well, if there are pitophiles, yes, fucking destroy their lives.
It's just like, it's as an, like, I come from the Middle East.
Middle East, we complain a lot about, like, how the government is corrupt. And then I come here
to the Western world where, like, everything is transparent. And I just, like, find the same
exact attitude of gas lighting and of lying. And, and I found it was like, oh, my God, I'm actually
in a country that's being controlled by, like, horrible people in Israel. Yeah, here's, here's
a nice, like, a nice ted. But do you know that Israel has the, one of the highest,
of sex offenders in the entire world.
And many of them are Jewish
Americans who actually...
Is that a fact? Oh, yeah, yeah. You can actually...
Like per capita? Yeah, no, you can actually, right now,
you can, there's a CBS report
about sex offenders fleeing from Israel.
These are people who get indicted in American.
They have a conviction and they flee.
You can... Do you see it? Oh, yes.
How Jewish American pedophiles hide from justice in Israel.
This is on CBS.
Yes. You don't have to play it, but like the, I'm just, I don't want to like kind of like stop the interview. I just want people that they reference it. So there's like a, there's like tens of people who basically gets. Yeah, no high and I ads here.
Yeah. Who get like indicted for actually like being pedophiles and they go hide in Israel and Israel doesn't bring you back because like they're protected by their Israeli passport. So this is the.
bigger picture that I'm telling you when you are on this is one of the things that we're
taking against you there's no two sides for it one side is a genocidal pedophile enabling
blackmailing liars who are starving people to death who are killing women and children and that is
the side right so that is why it is it is it's like it's being very icky right now to even
give a platform for them
to spread their fucking lies
because this is the kind of lies
that's been actually hurting
and killing people over two years.
So if I told you,
I'm not an expert still,
but what I've even learned
just with the stuff you've sent
and what I've learned over the last week.
So you understand, like when you,
all of that I'm trying to make you understand
the level of hate and anger
that was directed towards you
because basically you're supporting a pedophile.
You're supporting a guy that is actually blackmailing people.
You're supporting a guy who's a killer, right?
That guy, who seems to be caring about women,
there's a huge scandal in Israel that was unravel in 2012, 2013,
that for more than two decades,
Israel gave contraceptive shots to Ethiopian Jewish women
to prevent them from reproducing.
And this was...
How? Like, how'd they, like...
Yeah, they're going to pull it up right now.
So basically, they were giving contraceptive shots
for them in order to prevent them
because they were, like, black Jewish people.
And Benjamin Netanyahu was in the cabinet,
and they apologized in 2013.
Apologize. How can you apologize for something like that?
Right? Did you have it?
Yeah.
If you've been immigrants, Israel,
you receive contraceptive shots without their consent.
And you can find it also in time of Israel.
You can time...
How did they do that?
That was, they would kind of like get them into like routine gynecological, you know, tests.
And then they were just like, yeah, bang, yeah.
And they didn't know what they were, they were being injected.
And this continued from 1998 to 2013.
And when it was found out, it was a huge scandal.
And Benjamin Netanyahu was in that, the cabinet.
So I'm just telling you, I'm like, if I start to.
You know what it is, I think?
Some of the shit's so dark.
Yes.
That you almost don't want to believe it.
Exactly.
I think that's part of the problem.
When you say something like that, my initial reaction is like,
I don't want to believe it.
Not a conspiracy, I don't want to believe it because it's like,
it's scary how fucked up that would be if it was true.
You know what I'm saying?
Yeah.
And that's why I didn't want this interview to saying like,
hey, guys, you fucked up, you're terrible people.
Look what you did.
And I didn't want to just chase every single lie that Netanyahu says
because it's exhausting.
I just wanted you to understand the level of psychopathy.
that this regime is right because today's starvation yesterday is killing tomorrow it's going to be
something else and it's going to be the same exact loop of discussion we didn't do it it's Hamas it's
propaganda it's like dude come on these are professional lives can I ask a question that I actually
just want to understand it might be a dumb question but like what like in your opinion what
role does Hamas play like do they need to be completely removed from Gaza well again this is this is
the kind of like again the questions that are used in order to distract you from the biggest thing right
because I'm just trying to learn no no no I understand but that again we're doing bigger picture now right
you have to understand that this all started by people coming from a different country going into a
different country killing everybody taking their land there will have to be resistance movement whether
you call these resistance movement terrorist,
whether you, like, I mean,
Nelson Mandela was called a terrorist
for 20 years of his life, right?
He was called, Nelson Mandela,
who was like the beacon of liberation,
he was classified by the American government
as a terrorist, right?
And people say terrorists
because they don't want to get into trouble
because they are classified by the FBI
and by the CIA as terrorist group.
So people don't want to get into trouble
and then suddenly the conversation,
oh, so you mean Hamas is not terrorist?
So you support what they're doing.
So you see, I'm just like giving you the bigger picture
how these questions are used.
And then now Hamas is not even an issue anymore.
You went in and you destroyed a whole territory,
displacing two million people,
destroying every hospital, every school, every house.
And now people are saying, Hamas,
if there was no occupation, there will be no Hamas,
there will be no resistance, right?
And I find it very funny that,
that Netanyahu have openly admitted that he has emboldened Hamas
in order to cause factions inside the Palestinian movement,
so they will never have a Palestinian state.
And you can Google that as I talk if you want.
So purposely causing chaos.
Yeah, you know, like how you kind of like, you know,
finance people and other people in order to,
they have like an infighting.
It's a very, very common technique, you know, like divide and conquer, you know.
So, and this is why I don't want people to get reduced to asking smaller questions.
I just know it's a question everyone asks.
No, no, no, of course, but the bigger question is that you have a genocidal regime
using your money to continue with the killing, using your money in order to buy the media
to make you continue being ignorant and not knowing what's going on.
Yes.
Explain this to us more.
So this is basically for years, Netanyahu, this is from the time.
What does it mean by it says Netanyahu propped up Hamas?
So basically they would facilitate them having the stream of money in order to make them stronger
and to kill any other liberal opposition or any kind of opposition inside to have like a different representation of the Palestinian people.
It's very easy to have your enemy and paint them as an Islamic terrorist.
So you can, instead of trying to have a critical thinking of what's happening,
it's like, oh, these are zombies.
You know, when you watch a movie of zombies, you don't want to understand about their motives.
These are zombies.
These are cannibals.
These are like terrorists.
So you don't spend time in trying to understand the conflict.
And you just say, like, okay, this is just like fucked up.
Right?
So, for example, when you were in an interview and you're talking about New York,
it's like, oh, Mam Dany, that guy is like anti-Semitic, right?
Where does this come from?
Just stuff I see on X.
Yes, stuff you see on X, but you don't question why is he anti-Semitic, right?
What did he say in, and that's actually, that's the one video that I want to play, guys,
is it the people running for the position of mayor in New York, right?
you are a new yorker right you're from new york no where you're from colorado okay so let's say
you are in new york right okay you're from color you want the people the people running for the
governor of of uh of uh of the the governor of colorado or the mayor of Denver to represent your
interest right it would be very weird if people started saying i'm going to travel to a foreign
country as my duties as mayor right it doesn't
make any sense right so can you play this video guys i was i wanted to actually say something about that
because i think the biggest one of the biggest issues right now is like even that i'm like that i
made a mistake on is you see one thing posted and no one does a deeper dive they just believe
the first thing they see absolutely and it and it's it's it's flooding the internet it is like
what you when you say an ex your timeline is very very very curated because like basically if
you buy enough if you have if you spend enough money that's what i'm telling you about how
Barbara, right? Your timeline is fill of the same exact stories about Mamdani being
anti-Semitic, about Muslims are terrorists, about its Hamas. So, because it is,
let's see this. Yeah. Okay, play this please. That's what, that's fun. So this is,
this is just to give it, to give people context before you play it, this is during the
primary election for the mayor of New York. So basically you have a pundit
saying like it is how come a mayor of new york doesn't travel to israel and then the other
candidates talking about how they feel about israel can you play it please who travels to
israel these are all the candidates of the mayor of new york candidates yes go ahead any mayor
that can't say they will go to israel someday as mayor should not be mayor where would you go
first the holy land go to israel fourth trip to israel first trip to israel mr mom dana
i would stay in new york city my plans are
to address New Yorkers across the five boroughs and focus on that.
It's just so, it is so offensive.
If you're wondering what kind of world considers putting America first as offensive.
Okay, stop that.
So you see, as an American, as a new American, because you guys were born here,
I've been only an American for a few years, and I come to this.
I have to ask myself, why is the mayor of a city in America have to visit a foreign country,
And why is it frowned upon, it is offensive if you say,
I'm going to stay in the city that I was voted for as mayor to serve its people?
You understand the kind of brainwashing?
I mean, that clip's crazy, yeah.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know what else he stands for.
I heard he's like a socialist.
What, what, okay, we can discuss about how is a socialist, that's a different discussion.
Yeah.
And you can, and you can, and you can say,
I'm not going to vote for Mamdani because of his, uh, economic view.
That is quite fair.
but to make it a point that he has to visit a foreign country,
and if he doesn't, that is enough for disqualifying him,
even from the discussion.
That is crazy.
Why would a mayor need a visit a foreign country?
Thank you.
And why is it like if you say that a federal, that's different, but if you're staying
to serve your people that voted for you,
why are you being penalized and it's offensive not to visit Israel?
Why?
New York's got enough problems.
It's crazy, man.
It's crazy.
I think, like, he is trying to serve his people,
but he's being called anti-Semitic
because he doesn't want to go to a foreign country.
It's crazy, right?
There's got to be other reasons they're saying he's anti-Semitic.
I mean, like...
Is there other reasons they say he's anti-Semitic?
It can't just because of that.
I mean, you tell me.
I don't know.
I don't know either.
I haven't, because it is very, the easiest thing is anti-Semitic.
He is terrorists.
He hate the Jews.
And that's a conversation stopper.
You know, you know, when you guys,
is all about free speech, right?
Imagine every time you try to tell a joke,
that's racist.
Oh my God, that's so offensive.
It's like, why?
Why did I say?
And nobody will explain to you why is it racist.
And nobody will explain to you why is stupid.
It's just like, and it's a way to intimidate people.
If you start calling people anti-Semitic,
it's just like, like, anti-Semitism is dangerous,
but it's not the only ism that matters.
Right?
You cannot just like stop people's conversations like
that's anti-Semitic.
Where is that is anti-Semitic?
And you have to understand, like...
That's not.
Yeah, exactly.
That's not.
When you have like, oh, he's a socialist,
then let's talk about what do you mean he's a socialist?
What is it?
And when he say, like, he's going to do like affordable prices in supermarket,
why is that socialist?
I'd have to look into it more.
Yes, exactly.
So you tell what you do?
But if that would stop you from voting for him because he just say,
I'm going to serve my people and stay for the country, for the city that voted for me,
that is remarkable that is not anti-semitic it's pretty basic yeah yeah it's not
well say what you say hmm yes yeah so you understand like if you say like social names like
so people basic almost stuff for like almost for nothing health care and housing and
education in israel and it's doing that with our money that is not that is not
even social and that is like grand theft you know like a boy is my money going there to support
the lifestyle of people staying in illegal settlements built on Palestinian land that is fucking
crazy man right have you heard about something called friends for the IDF friends of the IDF so
friends of the IDF is a it's a very interesting piece of information it is one of their biggest
leaders is
Haim Saban, who is a Jewish
American who was in Egypt, by the way.
He immigrated from Alexandria
and he settled in
the United States. That guy is
so huge in the Hollywood business.
That guy owns the franchise for
Power Rangers. He needs Mutant Ninja
Turtles. He produced so many
movies for Arnold
Schwarzenegger and Silverstone.
That guy is big. You know that?
Boy, if you own Mutant Ninja Turtles and Power Rangers.
No, he's huge, man. Do you know that
the big museum for
the Oscars in Fairfax
like that's called the Sabban building
right that's how big this guy is
this guy is famously known
for a very famous saying he said
I'm a one issue guy and my
issue is Israel not America
Israel right
now he every single year
he throws a gala dinner
for something called France for the IDF
and like celebrities like
Silverstice Stallone and Arnold Schwarzenegger
and Gerard Butler come there
Ashton Kutcher and they come there
and they raise somewhere
between $70 and $100 million
per night tax
exempt. So this is money
that should have gone to charity in the United States
but it goes to a quote
unquote charity to help
veterans of the IDF
having like better health care, having
better education, having like better retirement
plan. I mean what the fuck? I mean like you are
actually doing tax right off
for
celebrities who lived and got their
money inside America to be sent to support the IDF and to support illegal settlements.
It is fucking crazy, man, right?
And you know what's so crazy?
Like, you have people like Silversus Stallone and Arnold Schozenek who made their whole
fame be doing movies, being like, saving America, supporting American soldiers.
And yet they don't spend a penny on American soldiers, but they send it to a soldiers
of a foreign country, an army that is now known to.
kill people on camera it's crazy man it's like you feed duped you feel that like where's my money
is going right well a lot of americans are i see on the internet now are you know really turning on
i think people are really fed up with it i mean they don't like how we're sending money to ukraine
and they don't like how we're sending money to israel it's kind of the same thing right like
why are we sending our tax money to other countries yeah but but you first of all you're sending
far more money than Israel and second of all like at least like I don't I don't like actually
sending money to Ukraine too but I just like all right you're sending it to Ukraine because
they're sending against like a nuclear power like Russia but you are sending money to Israel to kill
civilians you know there's the equivalent of six Hiroshima bomb that were actually dropped in
Gaza since the beginning of war they're calling the amount of explosive power you're you
finance that without you having any say in it
if this is not theft i don't know what it is so again i'm trying to explain to you the the anger that
was it was directed against you far exceeds the fact that you just platformed nithu you're
basically siding with everything that this country stands for and and many influencers like you
who are having a like a huge platform are being used every day with these free trips to israel
in order to put makeup on a fucking genocidal regime and and in the same time you like getting the
most racist tropes for Palestinians inside i mean that video guys like you did that's that it has
7.5 million views on youtube even if october 7 didn't happen you unknowingly were used as a part
to launder their propaganda and give people and just like go into their heads
and just like plant these horrible images about Palestinians
so people's like oh there's like a bunch of people staying intense
it's okay to kill them so you understand
no I'm just trying to digest it yeah to be honest
yeah well there's a lot to digest
yeah so it's so fuck
The toughest thing, like, back to the starvation of the kids, right?
Mm-hmm.
Why aren't more other countries getting involved in trying to do air-drop?
Well, let's talk about, like, no, first of all, you shouldn't be air-dropping.
You're right, but I'm saying, like, yeah, yeah.
But, like, okay, let's talk about other countries who try to involve.
Okay.
Any country, like, who would try to do it, Israel, it's very easy, easy to Israel.
Like, they're terrorists, they're supporting Hamas, and they bomb the shit out of us.
Just Egypt tried to force in, it's not not to try to force,
because nothing goes in without Israel approval.
Because let's say, for example, Egypt comes like,
okay, we're going to put our stuff in.
Israel was going to bomb the convoy like they did many times, like Hamas.
Because you will have many people, like, oh, it's Hamas, it's terrorists.
Once it's terrorists, you can do whatever you want, right?
And the fact that other countries are trying and cannot do anything,
it just tells you how much of a fucking bully this country is.
They have already bombed Syria, Lebanon, Iran, Yemen.
they have bombed the West Bank where they're supposedly not Hamas they have killed like thousands of
people there and have already like have put 15,000 people in jail in the West Bank with nobody's
talking about the West Bank just two days ago they a settler went in a settler went in and killed
a guy who was featured in an Oscar winning documentary and then the IDF came and they
intimidated the rest of that guy family you understand this is happening on daily basis
imagine being a Palestinian waking up
having like a settler who came from
New York and just taking your house
kicking your people out and if you stand
against them you kill them
you want like other countries to get
involved who other countries to get involved
America the strongest country in the world
is being cocked
but they're being dragged by the
balls they can't do anything because their
politicians are being openly bribed by
that regime right this is the strongest
fucking country in the world and they cannot do
anything and every time on then you
have a slap on the oh Trump not Israel shouldn't do this and they do it every you know how many
times Biden quote and quote like stopped their the arms like shipment and then they continued
this is all performative man this is all performative all of these like bullshit
statements from politician that doesn't do anything while the killing is happening you understand
so this is where you're actually like why it's like other countries are not involved they tried
to get involved and guess what they were called as anti-semitic
they were called Hamas.
They had like UN workers being killed because they will tell you it's on or why it is Hamas.
It's just like it's so it's so fucked up, right?
It's very fucked up, right?
But what I'm trying to understand and what, in your opinion, how do we solve this?
How do we have peace?
Like everyone wants peace, but how do we?
No, no, no, how do you get peace?
You need to get back to the root of the problem.
This is a genocidal country who's like basic, who's holding your politicians who have the power with the balls.
So what needs to be done?
what needs to vote those fucking people out right that's the and i and i i know it's not you don't
have an immediate thing but you have like you're saying american politicians yeah yeah do you need
to vote them out because these like why would you have every every american politician's been loyal to
israel though yeah 80 percent of of to the israeli government what not zora yeah no zora yeah
he's one of the few imam dani yeah like he's the he's the he's the few what yeah i mean this is the
problem if you actually stand against the tide and you say like i'm not going to
to be loyal to a foreign country being called anti-semitic it's crazy right it's like how do you feel
as an american when 80% of your representatives all of your mayors most of your governors are loyal to a
foreign country in any other scenario you will call that fucking treason right so you see and i'm and i'm
sorry that i don't have an immediate like answer for how to fix this because this is happening
because other things
has been happening
for fucking years
if you have
the strongest
presence in the world
being blackmail
by fucking
pedophil file
this is crazy man
this is crazy
right
so I understand
like the heat that you got
as kids
I'm sorry you're not kids
as young men
like at least you are
like but you are not
an American politician
who have been paid
to be a fucking
traitor your biggest mistake that you were not prepared that you were not informed and you
didn't do enough effort in order to inform yourself that's a big mistake but i honestly this
dwarfs next to the fucking daily treason that we see with american politicians that allows this to
happen that goes into the media and laundering israeli crimes this dwarfs next to those fucking
media people who are just mouthpieces of propaganda
like Ben Shapiro, Charlie Kirk,
Megan Kelly, all of those fuckers, right?
These are like 100% propaganda pieces
for a foreign country.
You have been betrayed by your politicians,
by your media, by many of your influencers
because they are being fucking paid.
Right?
So as much of a stupid stuff that you have done,
for me in my book
you guys
like at least you are now
seeing what you're happening
and you're trying to make sense out of it
and you're trying to educate yourself
and I hope that after this
that you would go on
I don't want you to say like
oh we're going to go back and do in stupid shit
guys you need to be more involved
at least educated
right yeah right
and I think maybe other influencers
will see this as like okay the next time
I get this fucking invitation from Israel
no I'm
I know what I'm
stepping into
because it's not just
like an innocent trip
it is not just
innocent propaganda
nothing is free right
nothing is free
right
so it's
it is it is so
I and I
and again I'm
I'm not coming here
I'm not
I told you before guys
and I know
I just like be straight
like those guys
were fucking scared shit
just when I told them
I would do it life
I gain nothing
from destroying
you i get nothing from dunking on you right i would actually rather deal with you as my younger
brothers to understand what has been happening in front of your eyes all of that time and maybe
in the future you will make something out of it whether you you you learn or not it's going to be
up to you from now on shit's dark that's just dark man you ever get scared talking about this stuff
Yeah. Well, I have got, like, I've got canceled. I have many of my shows being canceled.
We need 24-hour security after this one.
No, no, no, good. It's just no, which is crazy also. You are, you are American, you're Canadian, and you're living in the West with the free world, the freest country in the world, and you have to worry about speaking about a foreign country. It's crazy, man. It's, it's, it's dark. And listen, I need to address this.
because, like, you know, I feel for you, Stiney, right?
And I think we should, like, you know,
I want you to actually talk and talk about how difficult it is for you
being like, you know, because I'm sure they're, like, friends from your,
you've already been hated by one side,
but there are people like from your friends, your immediate community
who are actually like, or already angry.
You said many times there's nothing for me to gain from this.
You said this many times.
I want you to give you the space to, in order to just, like, talk about this.
Yeah, I just think of the lack of education.
and stepping into something so serious was probably a mistake.
Yeah, it was.
I mean, even since the Netanyahu interview,
like just the amount of stuff I've tried to consume,
like it really drains.
It's really draining.
And the issue that I'm having, too, is, like,
when you do your research,
everything, it's just, like, so opposite.
Yes.
Consuming from both sides, and it's just like,
which one do I believe?
Exactly.
And I think that's a problem.
I don't think there's, I mean, to step in there with Netanyahu,
it wouldn't have been even something that we could have prepared for in a week,
I think, in our position.
Like, that's, you've got to be super qualified to do that,
and I understand that.
But also, you see, what you have said is very important that
the amount of information,
that the conflicting information.
So instead of going, that's why I chose this,
instead of telling you this is wrong because,
and this is wrong because there's evidence
instead of providing evidence
how do you deal with narcissistic psychopathic behavior
you block them you know that everything
that comes out of their mouth is a fucking lie
I just showed you that they have bribed our politicians
they are they harbor pedophiles
they have killed American soldiers
they have done so much bad
they have lied so many times so there is no reason
for you to believe anything that comes out of their mind
right
okay let me say this in the mic so in order to provide this and i think this is something
that you can actually help in there they're going to be a button with click for people
having sources are we going to have it in the description yeah yeah including uh jewish
historians israeli historians so people don't say they're biased who talk actually about the
the conflict and how what Israel have done to those people from a Jewish point of view who were fair
right so you wouldn't say like oh just like the Arabs like doing it's not Hamas propaganda right
and and you know it is it is there's things that I heard today and and you're saying it because
you've been hearing it all your life like America is our biggest ally you know the biggest
naval crisis one of the biggest name of first outside the Second World War was the U.S.
Liberty. It's like a U.S. vessel that has 34 Marines killed, and they were killed by an
airstrike for Israel in 1967, right? By Israel? Yes. You can you can you can you can you can
Google the U.S. Liberty. There they are the fact that they are they have the kind of hurt
and a guide of damage that I have done to American finance, American politics, that it doesn't come
from someone who you call yourself an ally.
So the next time when you tell them about
Israel is our biggest ally, you need to figure out
why they're allies.
Nothing that they do.
And not an ally, not a friend
would do that to us.
Right?
There's so many.
It's just like, and as you said,
there's so much dark, and that at a certain point,
it's like, oh, you're just obsessed with Israel.
Well, I am as obsessed with Israel
as Netanyahu is obsessed with Hamas.
Because every time it's like,
and it's like, now I remember something,
it's like,
These people chant death to America, death to Israel.
Just right now, they're like they have their football fans going around in Europe
calling to death to Arabs and fuck Arabs and fuck Gaza.
What about him?
Like the, where is it in Romania?
Yeah, the fans going out in the streets, fuck Arabs.
They have the chance of fuck Arabs, fuck Gaza, fuck Palestinians, like, kill you.
It's just like, these are like a genocidal sick people, man.
man. And this is, this, it's, and they need to be penalized and need to, there's consequences of
that shit. Anyways, I took too long, and I promised to you that I'm not going to go long,
and I think there is enough information. How long we've been going for, Judge? It's like an hour
25 minutes. I mean, I think this was very informative. Yeah, an hour 10, hour 10, you see?
Thank you. Thank you. You've been very cool during this entire process. I really appreciate you.
Yeah. You were, you were, I said, like, and I promise I'm not going to go over time. And I, I
I think there's a lot of, there, I think there's a lot.
There's a lot.
I learned a lot this week, but even just sitting here now, I learned a lot, a lot more,
and there's a lot more to look into.
And yeah, we have a big platform.
I think sometimes we don't realize how big it is.
Yeah.
And the kind of, um, of influence that you have.
We just feel like such normal guys like, I don't know, so sometimes we just take it for
granted, I think.
Normal guys, normal guys will not have like a paid trip to it.
No.
I know.
I know.
Nothing's free.
I'm just saying that it is very curated.
You have to understand now.
Every time you hear it, you hear something coming out of there must.
You need to remember, these are psychopathic liars.
These are murderers.
These are people who have made genocide into a fucking industry.
And they're using your money to do so.
All right.
Well, we appreciate you coming on.
It was very informative and we appreciate you.
I feel like we're going to be.
Yeah, we're going to be going to work out.
Once I recover from my surgery, we're going to work up to the gym.
When you recover from the surgery?
Yeah, if you hear next week, I might come back.
When I started looking into you, I told them, I started searching you up.
And then all I see is Jack showed, Jack, uh, yeah, uh, oh, oh, oh, oh, I want by
I say, the t-shirt I'm wearing, this is the t-shirt for something called the Gaza Sunbirds.
Some, the Gaza, some birds, these are like a group of cyclists in Gaza.
all of them are amputees because they were basically bombed by Israel
and they this is one of the like the stuff that you this like it shouldn't be normal anywhere
but it is normal in Gaza and I was in London I was supporting them with this movie called
like Doctors Under Attack which is a documentary done by the BBC and then the BBC bailed out
because they didn't want to like because it was so fucking dark it shows how Israel is
systematically killing doctors and it's like you have more three times the chance of being
killed if Israel know that you're a doctor they killed 30 they destroyed 36 hospitals and
the wall of Gaza they tortured them they raped them they raped male doctors in custody it is
again it's very dark and I sent you that documentary so we can watch it and to understand
what is the other side means right uh
Those amputees and the Gaza sunbirds, they were deliberately sniped by snipers with shots around their knees.
You know, if you, like, in this area, it's like a guaranteed either a gangrene or an amputation.
So they do it on purpose.
And now we have like a group of people who are just amputees on bicycles.
This is how bad it is.
That's why I'm kind of like wearing this
because a normal activity like cycling is not normal in Gaza.
I think they have the only big league
where all of the soccer players are amputees.
Again, they are victims of the Israel brutal killing every single day.
They have people shooting little kids in their genitals.
They have people that they are being taken from the streets.
tortured, raped, killed.
It is fucking crazy, man.
And I'm telling you, that's why that video about the trip of Israel,
this is like you're going to Nazi Germany in 1938, a year after the war.
Before the war, it is laundry, it's propaganda, and you've been used very badly,
and then they don't fucking care about you.
They're now letting you, like, Netanyahu came in, and then they're letting you save the crowd,
face the crowd. It's fucking brutal.
And that's why I didn't want this to be another beating.
I just wanted this to be a cautionary tale for people being used on the internet by Israel.
That is actually the bigger picture here.
No, I appreciate just all our conversations before this too.
You've been nothing but a gentleman and a good guy.
Yeah, you see, the Israeli crowd is effectively protesting for the right to rape.
They were so mad that people telling them you should not rape prisoners in custody.
This is fucking crazy.
This is how sick those people are.
I know there's a lot to, there's a lot to digest, a lot to do it.
And yeah, anyways.
I think I learned a lot.
I think it was very educational, informative.
And I think it was a good one for our first live podcast.
Yeah, man.
I think.
I don't know.
Do we have a number?
Can we track people like watching and whatever?
Oh, that's a good.
17,000 people watching live.
Okay, so I think when you put it on tag, yeah,
I think when you put it on the, on YouTube afterwards, what?
Oh, that's good, good.
So I think it's good.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Wonderful.
I haven't looked at the chat, but I felt like it was a good combo, but I guess we'll find out.
Well, you're gonna have a lot of hate anyways.
Yeah, I know.
Dude, okay.
Tell me, tell me what, tell them what you told me like, what do you want to do after.
It's like, dude, I just want to get out of it.
I don't want to have anything to do with this.
anymore. I feel for you, Ben, you haven't slept for days.
It's really hard to step into. What? Yeah, it's really hard to get into this.
Yeah. Yeah. You haven't slept for days, right? No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It is, yeah. Yeah. It is, yeah. I
understand that, like, all of your life, you've been told something. I mean, you were telling me something that I
found it very weird like thank you being very nice sitting with me i'm like when i'm jewish it's like
dude you've been told all your life that i you be you're being hated because you're a jew that is
that is that is that is terrible that too but also just the response no no yeah it's it's that
it has nothing to do with you being jewish right it is like you have been brainwashed for so many
years to make you not see any way forward other than siding with those people again those people and like
Many Jewish people will tell you they've been using your identity,
using your religion to advance a very genocidal evil policy.
So, again, you will take your time to learn from this,
and I hope this has been a learning experience for everybody watching.
Guys, did you guys learn something new today?
You're happy? Good.
I learned a lot about everything.
Good, and we will put the file and the sources of everything,
and I hope you guys get some sleep after this.
Yeah, we will.
Thank you, Bassam.
We appreciate you guys.
Thank you.
Thank you, thank you, guys.