FULL SEND PODCAST - Benjamin Netanyahu | Ep. 161

Episode Date: July 21, 2025

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podcast we for sure the most have ever done yeah 100 percent maybe not the most controversial will ever do maybe not but maybe i mean this issue is just like and by the way i want to say too i'm not claiming to be an expert on this issue or or anything like that i've kind of just probably like a lot of you guys that you know you read stuff online um and i feel like on the internet now too it's like you don't even know what's real anymore like you read shit and it's like you see a headline and it's like is this true is this not true so i see so much stuff about you know what's going on in Israel and you know Iran and Palestine and to be honest I just really don't know what is going on there so it's going to be interesting to sit

down with with Prime Minister Netanyahu and kind of just ask him some questions about what we read online and get educated probably going to be a lot of a lot of hate in the comments and stuff like that in my opinion I mean dude we're journalists right we're tech yeah I mean we're technically journalists how can you pass up this opportunity at the end of the day. No, and plus, at the end of the day, it's like we get the opportunity to sit down with one of the most powerful people

in the world, a world leader. Yeah. And we get to ask him some stuff. And we're going to ask him what we want to ask him, too. So if you guys, you know, want to hear shit, whatever questions you guys want to hear, there's probably a ton of other interviews of him on CNN or, like, you know, typical news stuff.

We're going to ask him what we want to ask him. So to me, this is crazy. Like, how far we've come and we're, get to sit down with world leaders yeah it's fucking insane so i mean for any backlash this is just an opportunity again you can't really pass up i don't see like there's no one else doing this yeah i don't give a shit i'll sit down with any world leader in the i agree i mean my my dream guess is kim jong un if you're watching this is kind of like to come to north korea and interview you as well i can think about is the interview when we're i'm so down to pull up to moscow and interview puttun too yeah we'll do

everybody this is what sets off podcast you could put a small microphone here but no you have to see this thing, right? Yeah. Prime Minister Netanyahu with us today. We're here in the Blair House, right? Is this the White House grounds? Close. Close. It's the sort of the official guest house of the United States. How have you seen, like, the White House and stuff? Like, how has it evolved over the years, over the times of you visiting it? I've met quite a few of the American presidents because I've been in office a pretty long time, not because we don't have elections, but because I want quite a few of them, Okay, I think there's never been a friend like Donald Trump in the White House for Israel. I think he's a remarkable leader.

I think he's changing history. He said he'll make America great again. He's already done it. You know, America is widely admired now around the world, and especially after our joint operation against this regime that wanted to, you know, chance death to America, death to Israel, well, I think together we've shown the world a different, a different face of America. Very powerful, very directed, very resolute. You guys are very tight, right? Would you call it a bromance?

Well, you might. I mean, we've known each other several decades, and, you know, I really like him. What do you like most about them? You know, if you meet them close up, and Sarah and I've had this opportunity, many times, including last night, and a great dinner we had. at the White House. First of all, Donald Trump can be very funny. Of course. He can be very funny. Especially off camera, right?

Absolutely. You can split your, you know, you sort of sit there and you start goffawing because it's so funny. And also I'll tell you something else, that Sarah, who's a psychologist, and she, you know, psychologists, you know psychologists? Of course. They look at people, they identify very quickly with that. You know what she said to me about Donald Trump?

He said he's a good person He has a good heart He wants to do good And that is something that I think that You have to know him well to appreciate it And the last thing I tell you about him Okay

I mean I can tell you many things But he cuts through the chase You know he cuts through the BS I have to spell out what BS is He cuts through the BS He goes right to the point To the heart of the matter And sometimes he says things

That get right to the things that people don't want to really think through. And it cuts to the bone. And that is an amazing quality because it lets you focus on the things that are important. So it's been an incredible partnership, both personally, but also for our two nations. Did you have any type of relationship with Biden?

Not the same. I've known Biden for, what is it, 40 years, almost as long. Well, both of them. Over the decades, it was a different relationship. It was a friendship, but also it evolved into, how shall I say this, severe disagreements. And with Donald Trump, we've had powerful agreements. And where there's no daylight between an American president and Israeli prime minister,

amazing things can happen. Like our common enemies who chant death to Israel, death to America, and want to develop atomic bombs and the means to deliver them to this city and to every part of America, all of a sudden, they're not so intimidating. All of a sudden, we can defeat them. All of a sudden, you can use these brave American pilots

who come from around the world, drop it right over the bunker and help us end our amazing, the amazing feats of our soldiers and pilots. That's an amazing thing. It's good for America. It's good for the security. of every single American.

How do you feel about the American's opinion on Israel right now? Well, look, I think the broad segments of the American public support Israel, but I'm concerned that the young people in America, some of them are getting the wrong picture of Israel, vilification, demonization. You can feed them a lot of lies. So the only way you can fight lies is with the truth. How do you fight lies?

You tell the truth. And you have to tell it as often, and as, you know, and as intensely as the lives that are leveled against you. And that is, that requires an effort. It's like another battlefield, you know. And I'm doing this podcast, among other things, to reach young people. Of course. You guys are pretty young.

I mean, 30 years old? 30. 30. That's young. Yeah. What do you think the biggest misconceptions are about Israel? Well, first of all, they don't know what kind of a, an open society it is, How pluralistic.

I mean, we live in the heart of the Middle East, okay? Iran is not that far away. In Iran, they hang gazed by cranes. And Israel, probably Tel Aviv is one of the, you know, the most open, liberal-minded city on earth. Israel is a high-guided there, yeah. It's completely different. Our assistance is gay, too.

He had a good time. You can vouch. Yeah, no, he had a lot of people. So, you know, I mean, that, look at that. How about women, okay? Women in Iran, they shoot the women. they shot this extraordinarily brave and beautiful woman, shot on the sidewalk because she showed too much hair.

In Israel, women are, you know, you know what, what women, I'll tell you what the difference is, okay? So I had this young woman officer in my military secretariat, you know, the prime minister has military secretariat, and usually as a general and it has staff assistance. One of the staff assistants was this young woman pilot navigator on leave from the Air Force to do this work in the prime minister's office. You know what you did now? She was flying over the skies of Tehran, you know, attacking this horrible regime that tyrannizes the women in Tehran. That's a difference. The women there get shot on the sidewalk, and an Israeli woman pilot helps liberate Iran, quite the women of Iran, and boy, that's a big difference. And that's true of everything.

It's true of nightlife. It's true of the startup nation, the incredible ingenuity and entrepreneurship, incredible freedom. Israel is a, I would say, is a paragon of freedom in an area that doesn't exactly enjoy freedom. And to have young Americans march and support these mass rapists, these people who beheaded men who burnt babies alive, I'm talking about the Hamas monsters. Is that their ideal? They don't know nothing.

I mean, they don't know what they're talking about. And I want to bring that truth to them. So Israel is a great free society and the best partner that America has anywhere. Great people there for sure. When we visited, everyone was so welcoming, and people are inviting us over for dinner and stuff. But I see, like, that's the thing, too. I'm not claiming to be an expert, too,

but I'll just read stuff on, like, X. And, like, people will say, like, Israel's killing babies or, like, they're starving people. That's completely false. In fact, the reason, the reason we have civilian casualties in Gaza is because Hamas were basically horrible murderers and killers, okay? Committed to our destruction and your destruction. They say so openly.

I mean, they're, they say the big enemy, the real enemy, the great Satan is America. And Israel is a small Satan, but it's a small Satan that is standing in their way of conquering with other Iranian proxies, conquering the Middle East, and then we move on to you. So America is the great Satan, and America, you know, needs to disappear. And we stand in their way. But one of the things you have to understand is Gaza is the densest urban. an environment you can find, and Hamas embeds itself in the civilian population of Gaza, the Palestinians, okay? We tell the Palestinians, hey, leave, because after they

butchered us and raped our women and beheaded our men and burnt our babies, you know, we have to remove this threat. So we come in to take care of the Hamas terrorists, but the Hamas terrorists don't leave the civilian neighborhoods. And we, we, We say to the civilians, we call them up, because we have their telephone numbers. We say, leave, please leave. We send them leaflets, millions of leaflets, please leave. We do everything that is possible that no army is done. They want to leave.

You know what Hamas does? They shoot them. You say, we want you to stay because we want to have civilian casualties because then they can show it on CNN or all these other networks and so on and played that Israel is deliberately doing this. We're not deliberately doing anything. We'd like them to leave. And in fact,

successively during the war, it's been now a year and a half, they finally do leave most of them. So we've minimized those casualties, but it's not because we seek to have civilian casualties. It's because Hamas wants them. They're willing to sacrifice their own children,

their own families, both because they don't really care for human life, but also because they think it's a very good propaganda against us. And if they just let them leave, leave the war zone, get to the safe parts, safe havens that we've created in Gaza, no one would be hurt. And the minute Hamas lays down its arms, surrenders, maybe we let them leave Gaza. That's the end of the war. No one gets hurt. What would your message be to Palestinians that just want to have like a peaceful life? Get rid of Hamas. Help us get rid of Hamas.

They torment you. They oppress you. They shoot you in the back of the head. If you want to leave the war zone, they kill you. And if you say a word in protest, they'll kill you. If you're gay, you're in bad shape, really bad shape. And if you are a woman, you're chattel, you're nothing, your property. That's the opposite of everything we believe. And we, I say, it's not only Israel. It's you.

So we're the same. How do you respond to, like, I'd say there's a lot of American support from the females, from the gays, towards Palestine? So how does that make any sense? That's, you know... Gays for Gaza is like chickens for KFC, you know? I mean, that's insane. The whole thing is absurd. Chickens for KFC, right.

Gays for Gaza or, you know, women for the women of Gaza talking about, you know. They're completely subjugated. They've got this death cult that is contaminated. So you can push this stuff on TikTok or whatever on the stuff, but, you know, you can't build. peace or security on the rocks. They'll crash. I mean, these things will crash on the rocks of Middle Eastern realities. You can only build peace on truth and reality,

not on deliberate, falsified fantasy. Why do they say Israel's like starving the people of Gaza? Well, because we're trying to get the food in, and we let food trucks in, and guess what happens when we let them in? Hamas steals the food, takes a good chunk for, itself, then sells at inflated prices, they jack up the prices, and then they sell the food to its population, to its hungry population, if they give them at all. And then use the money that they take from their own people to recruit more killers into their terror machine. That's what

happens. Why are more Palestinians not siding with Israel against Hamas then? Well, up to now they've been terrorists, but guess what's happened? Since we're beating Hamas, all of a sudden, we see Palestinians rising. You have to see this to believe this. Okay. And they say to Hamas, hey, you're not coming into my building. You know, you can't use my school or this hospital as your command post. We're not letting it. And as they start fighting them. Now we have actually armed conflict between Palestinians and terrorists. It was unimaginable a year and a half ago. But now there are Palestinians who rise up and, you know, the more the better, because we can create a different future for Gaza. And we should also do something very simple that President Trump said,

and it was brilliant. That's my idea. That's how he cuts the chase. He says, you know, at the end of this war, the people of Gaza should have the choice. If they want to leave for other countries, they want freedom of choice. Why are they locked in? Hell, we're not locking them in. Anybody could leave, but Hamas is locking them in. Suppose they want to leave. They want to go to to another country, okay? Why shouldn't they have the freedom of choice to do that? Because this is all upside down, you know? The victim of this horrible terrorism is called the aggressor. The people who are oppressed by Hamas are seen as supporting Hamas. Give them a choice, give them freedom, give them a life and give them a future. They can't have that with these

Hamas stormtroopers. But the amazing thing is, You know, I come here and I see these protests. The people are protesting for Hamas and against Israel. They burn American flags. They're not only burned the flag of Israel. They burn American flags. They're anti-American. They're not MAGA.

They're not supporters. You know, who do they support? You know who they support? They support Iran in its proxy, Hamas or Hezbollah. What does Iran do? just understand people who uh what is it who uh who uh support iran or speak on its behalf iran tried to assassinate president trump not once but twice they were behind those assassination attempts they openly admit by the way they put out a price on his head on mine too by the way

smaller price uh just i'm not offended uh they actually put a price on your head yeah two days ago do you know what it is you know yeah it's smaller than naturally. He's the President of the United States, for God's sake, okay? So they put out a fatwa two days ago or three days ago by the official cleric of the re-rated regime that President Trump has to be assassinated and that I have to be assassinated. And by the way, they targeted Sarah, my wife was here, and they targeted our bedroom window. Yeah, we were supposed to be there. They hit through their proclamation. Zhezbollah. They fired a drone right into our bedroom window.

Just recently? Yeah, yeah. It was a couple of months ago. Wow. No, it was a year ago, actually. Yeah, a year ago. Okay. So, how many months? Seven months ago. She counts, you know. But, yeah, so they tried to assassinate President Trump twice. They've killed and injured thousands of Americans in Iraq and Afghanistan.

They bombed American embassies. They murdered 200,000. 41 Marines in Beirut, they chant death to America, death to Israel. They're out to get America. They're building atomic. They were building atomic bombs. And intercontinental ballistic missiles, that's our plan to reach America. So do you want these mad Ayatollahs to have that power? Of course not.

They're anti-American, they're anti-Israel. And the guys who protest, and many of them are paid and organized by foreign NGOs. those bad people. They're out against America. They hate Israel because they see Israel as part of America. And, you know, in many ways, they're right. I'm just trying to figure it out, too, because even in New York City, right? What's Zoran?

Yeah. He's an anti-Semitic guy. Yeah. The highest, I think, the highest population of Jews in New York City. How is that even possible? Well, it's possible because a lot of people have been taken in by this nonsense. I mean, what? You want to defund the police?

You want to have people go into stores and, you know, rob them and be free? You think that really creates a good society. You want to crush all enterprise. You want to tax people to death. I mean, you know, that's a one-term effort. But, you know, sometimes you have to get mugged by reality to understand how stupid that is.

So that's silly. But, you know, sometimes folly overtakes human affairs for a while, but not for long because reality steps in. So I'm obviously not happy with it, but I'm less concerned with it because I think if we can speak the truth to the young people of America, you know, they wise up pretty quickly. Is the war with Iran, is it over now after President Trump did authorize the strike and they destroyed the nuclear program? Well, it certainly helped, but I'll tell you what happened. You know, we were like a person with two lumps of cancer, okay? that threatened in our life.

The first one's a nuclear cancer would have taken them within a year they would have had atomic bombs, which they openly declared in the tyrants of Tehran. They said, we're going to destroy Israel,

the Jewish state. The other threat that we had, another lump of cancer, was these ballistic missiles. Now, you've got to understand, this is like a bus. So with a ton of TNT, okay, explosives,

comes down in Mach 8, and boom, just destroy. always everything inside. Israel is the size of New Jersey, okay? It's bigger than Rhode Island, but that's about it, you know? It's the size of New Jersey. Now, imagine that you would have 20,000 of these ballistic missiles, these one-ton bombs on New Jersey. So you either get destroyed by atomic bombs or by thousands and thousands of these deadly ballistic missiles. So you think there's still a threat and they want to... Well, we had to act. Yeah. Why did we

have to act because if you don't remove the cancer, you're going to be dead. Now, if you remove it as we did, it might come back. That happens in cancer too. But if you don't remove it, you're not going to be there. So we had to act. We did act. And I, you know, just with incredibly brave soldiers. But is there a chance of peace with this current regime? Not with the regime, but with the Iranian people. And I think they've had enough. 80% of them want to throw these theological thugs out. They're just, intimidated by secret police that has, you know, that just shoots them. But I think that there's a chance that the Iranian people will actually rise up because, you know, everybody talks about regime change and they envision, you know,

the American army and the Israeli idea of forces invading Iran, boots on the ground and all that other nonsense that people spewed for. No, we took action to remove those two life-threatening, threats, the nuclear threat and the ballistic missile threat, and we moved it, we pushed it away for many years. But ultimately, it's up to the people of Iran to rise up against their tormentors. And I think there's a possibility it will happen. And then we could have peace. We had peace with Iran before that. Before the Ayatollahs took over, you know, in 1979, we had direct flights between Tel Aviv and Iran. You know, we're two ancient peoples. We had a great

partnership over many years. We have a common history together. And it's sort of interrupted by this thuggery. But when this regime goes down, you're going to see peace between us like you never believed it. That'd be nice because, yeah, I think one thing Americans don't want to seize, everyone has post-traumatic stress from, you know, trying to do regime change in Iraq and the past Middle Eastern wars. Why do it? That doesn't work, you know?

It just doesn't work. It has to come from within, from within the people. And the people are, you know, they're great people. The Iranian people are great people. You know, I sometimes do these podcasts to them. It's not a podcast. I mean, I do a video, okay? So, three, four minutes.

You know, I tell them that we would happily cooperate with them, solve their water crisis. Israel is the best water management in the world, you know? We could give it. They don't have water in Iran, even though they have, they don't have electricity, even though they swim in oil, you know, because it's so corrupt and so badly managed.

So I give these people. podcast. You know what I see? Millions and millions and millions of views. And the first time they showed me this, I said, no, it can't be. I said, no, no, Prime Minister, look. I mean, you got, I don't know, 15 million views. I mean, the whole population of Iran is. They're watching, right? 90 million. So I said, oh, well, that's amazing. You know what the amazing thing is? They have names. The people identify themselves. So you understand, in a tyranny like, this, if people speak out, they really want, you know what they want? Freedom. They want their freedom. They have, you know, they have this slogan. It's women, freedom, you know.

The women want to be free. The men want to be free. And Israel wants them to be free. And I think America wants them to be free. But it's up to them. Ultimately, ultimately it's up to them. and I think they're getting closer and closer to the day when this horrific regime disappeared. That'll be good for America. So it's not conquest, it's not American boots on the ground. For God's sake, everybody said World War III, remember? If the president enters, you got these experts, paid experts,

you know, silly experts. America, World War III, it's war between China and America and you have to invade Iran and all that nonsense. Hell, no, I mean, very brave and persistent pilots, they go in, drop this thing in the bunker, come back, not a single American casualty. And by the way, not a single Israeli casualty. Our brave pilots flying over the skies of Tehran, nothing. How did President Trump let you know about that mission? You ever hear of a phone call?

So what, buddy, just called you up and said, premise? Or we're bringing in the B-2s? I don't think it was an open line, you know. But, you know, we have these great conversations. We're very open with each other. And he said it's like a team that has never happened before. And I can categorically vouch that having worked with successive American presidents, I've never seen anything like it.

And it's trust. its affinity it's understanding that you know we're fighting for a greater purpose and that we can do so very intelligently and very differently from the way that is being portrayed in the media

and you just have proof you know all these guys you know they're sitting there yeah if um if uh if uh president trump is foolish enough to do this it's going to start world war three

uh it's going to embroil America and another Vietnam You heard this stuff? You remember this? This is yesterday, they talked about it with such authority and, you know, and seeming expertise. That's all nonsense.

It just turns out to be nonsense, pure, utter nonsense. And the president had the temerity and the leadership to disavow these so-called experts to do the right thing and to do it with great resolution, great clarity and with great transparency between us. You don't have to tell the Iranians, but we tell each other. All right, guys, we're going to interrupt really quick.

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No, the answer is no. I think you definitely have a tough job, but why do you think you're, like, so hated worldwide? Well, a lot of propaganda. First of all, I'm not hated worldwide. I'm, uh, I just received this, uh, I just, uh, talk to someone, a rabbi. And he says, he just heard from his brother, who was in Europe, okay, and one of the countries of Europe. And he says that he's being flooded, you know,

they know he's from Israel. All the people are coming and they say, you did this amazing thing for all of us, okay? The Chancellor of Germany said Israel did the work for all of us, the new Chancellor of Germany, okay? I hear, you know, they had the G7, the president told me they were all going crazy, I mean, in a positive way, because we liberated them, because those Iranian missiles were geared at Europe too, and ultimately at America, with nuclear warheads. So we had the guts to do this, and, you know, the propaganda is there. I don't deny it, but people also have, you know, sometimes the truth beckons. And what Israel did with President Trump

is safeguard free societies from a menace. I mean, this Iranian regime hangs gaze from cranes, shoots women on the sidewalk for not covering their hair, oppresses their people, spreads terrorism worldwide, kills Americans wholesale, tries to murder the American president, the former Secretary of State,

the former National Security Advisor. You know, so people's heads, you know, if people are turned that way, that question you have to ask is not why do they hate me or President Trump is why don't they see a reality? Why don't they see what's good for them? And the answers most of them do if you tell them the facts. But how do you tell them the facts over TikTok? You guys are there. You tell me, what's the suggestion? You got any ideas for me?

I don't think it's the Iran thing. The main thing I just see is if I don't think people like if civilians are getting injured or killed. We don't want it either. I think the other issue, too, is you see there's a lot more Palestinian protests. You don't see very many Israeli protests. So you're going to see that on TikTok. You know, it's organized. It's systemic, but it doesn't make it true.

I mean, so what? Yeah, you have it. But what are they protesting for? I mean, look, most of the Arab world has made peace with Israel. We've had four historic peace accords. You know, people said you can never have peace because the Palestinians, you first have to solve the Palestinian issue. Well, the Palestinians have been fighting us for 100 years before there was even a state of Israel. And they're not fighting for a state.

They don't want a state next to Israel. They want a state instead of Israel. And they teach their children that the greatest duty is to murder as many Jews as they want. The so-called moderates, the other branch, not Hamas, the moderate. that are described as such, they pay for slay. The more Jews you kill, the more they pay the murderers. I mean, that's a death penalty. Which is crazy, yeah.

Some of the anti-Semitism I see is pretty nuts. Yeah, well. Yeah. I'll tell you, I'm an American Jew, and it's hard to identify as that. I understand. You almost don't even want to own it. But I think we just change history. I see American Jews are very proud now.

Jews around the world are very proud because we, you know, these guys were out to murder us and do another Holocaust. You know, the Holocaust, the Nazis murdered 6 million Jews. They're now 7 million Jews, close to 8 million Jews in Israel. They want to murder all of us, and they say so. And all of a sudden, you know, unlike the Holocaust 80 years ago, we were completely defenseless, you know, and they butcher it. Now we're not

defenseless, but we are targeting them. And even though we have to fight the vilification that is happening in America, too. You know, ultimately, people join winners. That's what happens. People join winners. And we stand up strong and we're proud. And American Jews and the friends of Israel who are not Jews stand proud with us too. And I wouldn't be intimidated by these protesters. I think they're, I don't think they know what they're talking about, you know.

they're not, they're just totally ignorant. What would you say, you're the longest standing prime minister of Israel's history, what would you say is your greatest accomplishment and your biggest regret? My greatest accomplishment is what I set out to do 40 years ago. Right after the rise of the so-called Islamic Republic of Iran, I said this is the greatest danger facing Israel in the world because of this fanatic anti-American anti-Israeli regime gets nuclear weapons, we will be in mortal danger.

So I devoted decades of my life to try to prevent them from getting it. And I think one of the achievements that we have is we push back this great danger, again, with full partnership with President Trump and the United States of America, I'm very proud of that. And the other thing I did was I liberated the Israeli economy. It was a semi-socialist economy on the kind that this candidate for a New York, it's not a good idea, you know. Like we had a very low GDP per capita, and we weren't a First World Nation, okay? Everything was tied, you know.

You had bureaucrats, you know, bureaucrats controlling everything, depriving initiative, enterprise and so on. and I, as prime minister and for some time as finance minister, I just did, you know, I just liberated the economy. I just did all these reforms that allowed people to set up their own business. You have a business right now? Are you regulated? Yes. You are? Why are you regulated? You're regulated? By what? You should have the freedom to say whatever you want, to talk whatever you want. I didn't realize there's regulation on podcasts. Is that right? Not anymore. Actually, since President Trump won, we've noticed all the social medias have been a lot more pro-free speech. Yeah, all right. So I'm for free markets, you know, the marketplace of goods, services, ideas.

You have to have the freedom to have your ideas. This is what we have at Israel. Boy, do we have it in abundance. But that's fine. That's what I like. I like competition. I like initiative. I like freedom. I like freedom because I think living without freedom is not worth it. and think of, you know, young people are watching me now. Think that every move that you make, every decision you'd like to make is made by others. You remember? That's when you're little kids, right? You have the nanny state.

You have the nanny that tells you what you can do, what you can't do? Not a good idea, right? That's not the kind of life you want. That's not the kind of life we have in Israel. It's a robust, free, pluralistic society compared to the darkness of Iran. The darkness of Hamas gays for Gaza

chickens for KFC women for the women of Gaza God almighty I mean this is crazy No but women for Gaza is crazy too Because you know what the women in Gaza are They're property they're nothing They have no rights

They're completely subjugated And God forbid if They're executed Anytime they commit a so-called offense I mean It's absurd So young people People who say they're progressives, people who talk about liberty, and they join with these killers, and they buy these lies, and they say, you know, good is bad and bad is good, you know, you know what they say in the Bible? Have they no eyes to see, have no ears to hear? You know? Can they be that blind? And the answer, yeah, for a while, but I guess I'll wise up.

The second part of that question, what would you say is your biggest regret? Well, my biggest regret is that, you know, that my wife and my two boys have to suffer the sligs and arrows, you know, of public life. So I chose this life. I didn't know I'd get to be prime minister, but I chose public life. But when Sarah married me, she didn't choose this. She did know where it would end up. My boys were born into it, more or less, you know, and they get a lot of,

flack, a lot of vilification, a lot of character assassination. That is something I regret, but I'm, you know, it's part of the journey, and it's a very painful one, frankly. What I regret in terms of conduct? You know, I became prime minister at a fairly young age, and then in Israel, was 46. And, you know, the first term, I was booted out after the first term. They put tons of money in there with the foreign NGOs. I spent the first three years in which I was prime minister, basically totally on the job,

and so did Sarah. And we sort of neglected our boys. And having been thrown out of office, I came back. first as a finance minister, but then 10 years, altogether 10 years later, I became prime minister again, and since then, I don't know,

I won five elections. I can't keep track. But I have to get reelected. People say, oh, baby, you're a king. I said, I'm not a king. King doesn't have to get reelected. I do. I'm a Democrat, small D.

I believe that the people have to choose who leads them. No one else. Okay, so second time I'm elected, Sarah told me, you know, let's not repeat the mistake. Our boys are going to be with us for a few more years. And let's devote family time, you know?

You know what family time is? I'm telling this to you. Maybe you have the same thing. Maybe you have young families. You will have. She said, Friday night, Shabbat dinner, you know, and lunch. Nothing. No phones.

No cell phones. Get rid of them. Okay. Can you imagine sitting around the table, not having cell phones? Yeah, it's a good idea. I tried sometime, okay? It's refreshing, right? Yeah, and, you know, we actually have family time for a limited time.

My younger boy, who's, you know, is an Oxford graduate, but he was sort of, you know, he was a great student of the Bible at a very early age. So we'd read a portion of the Bible, which, is always relevant. It's a very good book, by the way. I strongly recommend it. I don't know if people still read it, but it's a great book. So up to the age of 12, I was teaching him. Okay, from the age of 12, he was teaching me. And this was family time. And it's because my wife had the, you know, it's just the wisdom to give us those years that otherwise would go forever, you know. What's one thing you and President Trump have in common?

Like something like specific, like a hobby or like something you both like, like a food? Hamburgers. McDonald's? Hamburgers. Yeah. So President Trump comes to Israel. It's a great visit. Wonderful visit.

Okay. And then we have dinner. Okay. And we bring this chef, you know, he's like a very good chef. And he gives, I'll tell you, gives a seven-course dinner. telling you, seven courses. It's the longest dinner I've ever had. And, you know, in this fancy plate,

in this fancy plate, and this fancy plate. And finally, he brings up this dressed-up hamburger. And I look at Trump, and he looks at me. Finally, we had what we wanted. We got the hamburger, you know. So, yeah, I was a junk food junkie for many years. Sarah and I would come. We didn't have, you remember Israel was same.

me socialist so we didn't even have a McDonald's or a burger king okay and we'd land uh on an occasional visit to new york you know what the first thing we did McDonald's and to be honest burger king i like burger king what's your go to at McDonald's no i'll tell you burger king we did the you know the double you know wopper yeah i haven't ripped burger king in a long time it's not burger king kind of sucks yeah no you're wrong the bK lounge can hit i disagree completely you like burger king over McDonald's that's that's your worst take absolutely that's a crazy take No, no, that was fine. I mean, I like Burger King.

The answer is yes. And we'd go and have Burger King. And guess what happened? So I opened up the Israeli economy, right? And what do you think we had? McDonald's, Burger King's, Burger, that, burger this. And the bloom went off the rows. And how did I know?

Because we'd, you know, we'd go for the French, we'd go for the lot. You know, the shakes, the French fries, the burgers. I mean, this is like, this is a massive, massive attack on your health. never mind okay no it's bad we stopped but we stopped gorging on this and we sort of moved away from it so i remember i remember that but president trump apparently still likes this stuff so what all he eats we wrote on his plane before the election because we were doing the same thing with him yeah McDonald's yeah he was McDonald's lunch chick-fil-a you ever tried chick-fil-a chick-fil-a is good actually good right the chick-fil-a sauce i don't remember that i mean dip the waffle fries in it uh i think i

went for the chick for the, can you get me some? Can you get me some tomorrow? Sure. No, I'm in this, I'm in this protein diet, you know? Oh, are you? Yeah, I was until, until you saw President Trump, right? No, you know, I'll tell you what happened. I can't divulge what happened in the meeting.

It was great. So, he says, he calls his aid, you know, bring me the stuff. You know what he brings in? Chocolate? candy. I said, Donald, what do you do? You know, because I've been now for months off this sugar thing.

And he says, this is good stuff. That's Donald Trump. He's a human being, you know. He's a great, he's a natural, wonderful guy. He's a warm person. And he's got, you know,

he's got vilification the way we all do. I know, they paint a picture. You think the people are hearing me now? You think they know me? Not well, they do through you. The two of you, you know, you're opening it up. But I'm just telling you that, what do we have in common? Well, we like to spend time with each other.

Yeah, you guys seem like you have a good time. Yeah, we do. Chilling with Biden must have been boring. Next. Obama was probably a good time, though, too. Well, he was I think look I don't agree with everything he did

but Obama's still cool First of all Obama was Like he has aura You know what that means? Yeah, I do And he had it And I don't

Disclaim that he had Great talents But we had different view of the world You know I mean he was a very talented And gifted person And I don't think he was A weak person

I don't think that at all But I think I think he had ideas that I didn't always share, to put it mildly. And the question is, what is the general direction that you take, okay? And I thought that making sure that Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons was something that was absolutely essential, absolutely essential. And he viewed it differently. He thought that, you know, through accommodation, that he would stop them.

And I don't think he did. I mean, he made a deal that basically paved their way with gold to a nuclear arsenal. So we disagreed. And it wasn't easy for me to make a decision that I made in 2015. That's 10 years ago. And I went to the U.S. Congress, you know, a joint session of Congress, to speak out against this deal that a sitting president was advancing. And that's not something that you do lightheartedly.

I did it because I thought the fate of my country was at stake. I thought we could be annihilated by the Iranians with a nuclear deal would essentially pave their way to nuclear weapons. So I had to do it. And I did it, but it's not for lack of respect. It's for disagreement. It's because of disagreement. And, you know, people can disagree. And in politics, you often compromise.

I think that there's still a lot of gray area, like with your average American, on what actually happened on October 7th, how it happened, why the response took so long. Well, what happened was that at 629 in the morning, several thousand of these Hamas murders crossed the fence from Gaza into the neighboring communities and butchered everything in sight. And the biggest butchery took place in Juan Kibbutz that I visited recently, and it's horrible. They went into the houses, they shot the children,

they shot the babies, shot the families, old people, Holocaust survivors, you name it. And the other thing that they did was there was a music festival that lasted through the night in the open areas, near Gaza, young people, you know, came to have a music festival in nature. And these killers came there, and they just sprayed the whole place.

They murdered these young women and young men. And there were acts of heroism there that were amazing. Some of the people saved people, came back to save people. They themselves were mowed down. But there was acts of carnage that was so cruel that it's impossible to imagine, but also acts of courage that are amazing. So that's what you had there. That's how it started.

Yeah. And then, you know, how long did it take to get in there? We're still investigating. Why it took so long? Why don't we just have attack helicopters right there? You know, we have a pretty good idea now, but that's going to be investigated fully. What's your response to people that say it could have been prevented? I agree with them.

Completely. And it was just horrible. And the other thing that happened was they took 255 people hostage. I mean, we're talking about grandmothers and their grandchildren. We're talking about people they killed. They took their bodies so they can, you know, they could trade these bodies. I mean, they took young girls and young men, and it's horrible. And on the first day, senior defense officials said to, in the first day of the war, right?

They said, he said, you know, we have to get used to the idea that we're not going to get any of these hostages out alive. And I thought differently. I said, no, we're going to get them all. Because if we have, you know, our military force, great courage of our soldiers and the diplomatic effort that will combine it with it, we're going to get them out. So up to date, we got of 255, we got 205 out, 147 of them alive. and the rest are recovered bodies. Some of them we got out with heroic rescue efforts, pirate, you know, just went in there, into Hamas territory,

and these fantastic brave soldiers, they got them out. And now we have 20 left, 20 are alive, and 30 that are not alive. And I'm going to get them all. We may have a deal. we're working on right now to try to get half of them 10 alive

and more than half of the sea sausages right away and I'm committed to getting all of them out I believe in this I didn't believe for a second that we wouldn't get anyone alive we've got nearly all of them but I want all of them

all of them the dead and the living what's that negotiation like like why do they let some out and then they're still holding on to some because they think that you know because they think that will, that that's their security blanket, you know.

These innocent people that have been kidnapped, I mean, kidnapped. They kidnapped these innocent children, you know. They kidnapped these women, I mean, and these grandmothers. And they put them in the dungeons, these underground dungeons in Gaza. And some of these young people are tall, like they're six, four. You know, they can't stand up for months. They can't stand up because the top. tunnels are lower, and there's nothing. There's no daylight. There's nothing. Just imagine this

unbelievable thing, you know. I couldn't imagine. You've seen the retaliation, too. So what's, what's your message to why? Because a lot of Americans don't think we should support Israel at all. That means you don't support America. Because for the terrorists, you know what, the terrorists are fighting us? Because they say, we're America and America is Israel. We have the same free societies, the same free values. They want to drive us back to the dark ages. of this tyranny. And Americans who say that, I think basically say, okay, so you support those who chant death to America, those who want to eliminate America. That's crazy. Oh, oh boy, this is... Nice to breath, though.

Yeah. That's the service. Yeah. That's what we did on the full sun pod. Thanks. You were a soldier yourself, right? How long did you serve? I served for five years. What was that like? What was it like? I was in a special unit, you know. I like our special forces like your Navy SEALs, you know. It's like, that's the best thing that I could describe. What was it like? Well, it was demanding. You know, I was, spent a few years in the United States in high school. So I figured, you know, it's a good time to prepare. So I, you know, I ran, I swam, I lifted weights. I said, you know, I'm ready, okay? Boy, was I wrong. I wasn't ready. It's not only the physical demands, but also the, you know, the psychological demands of stress that you're put into.

The training's crazy, right? Yeah, the training is very hard, but very soon, I mean, like, we did crazy things, and some of them were, well, you know, we had the first hijackings of Israeli planes from Lebanon, actually, from PLO, that was in Scotson, Lebanon. So as a very soldier, I mean, we landed in Beirut Airport, like in the movies, you know. We were told to wear red berets. I thought that was ridiculous. I mean, very theatrical.

But we landed in Bayard Airport and took care of the planes. We didn't kill anyone. But we blew up the planes, and we said to Lebanon, if you hijack our planes, we're going to blow up your planes. Didn't kill anyone. It was like a textbook operation. And then, you know, we went into a lot of these things. But when you're young, and I was 18, you think that this is cost-free.

But one of the first things that happened to me was that one of my close friends came from what you would call a disadvantaged home. He was a brilliant student. It was put into a great school. He was a mathematician and an athlete. And we became very close friends. And after a certain operation, he died in my arms. You know, it's not an easy thing when, you know, somebody dies in your arms. And so you go through that.

What was it like? On the whole, it was a great preparation for life. I became an officer and led many operations behind enemy lines. So it teaches you, one, that you can do many things that seemingly impossible, but two also to recognize that, at least I did, that life isn't a series of military operations, you know, it's more complicated. It's not, you can't control everything, and you have to sometimes go with the flow. But the most important thing I found,

is to live a life of purpose, you know? You have a purpose on life? You have a cause? You have something that you think is greater than yourself? You know? Live that life. And don't forget your family. You know?

Have a life of purpose and, you know, have... Don't forget your family. And in my case, my family was also my older brother, who was also a... an officer in my unit, ultimately became its commander, and he led the rescue team in probably the most celebrated rescue of hostages in modern history. That's the rescue of 103 Israelis in Antebi, Uganda, like it was thousands of kilometers away. When I was a soldier, when I was an officer, the PLO hijacked a Belgian airplane,

Sabine airplane, landed it in Tel Aviv Airport, and said, unless you release these killers, you know, we're going to blow up the whole plane full of Israeli passengers. And my unit was selected to do something about it. We had a defense minister, his name is Moshe Dayaan. I don't know if you remember him. He had a, you know, he had a one-eyed patch. He had a patch. It was very charismatic figure.

And he negotiated with the terrorists in the plane. And they said, you know, they want to fly out to a destination of their choice. They'll let the passengers go and we'll fill the plane with these jail terrorists. And while he was negotiating, we were practicing how to use pistols, you know, in order to uh in order to uh penetrate the airport the airplane but not kill everybody because if you use submachine guns everybody would be dead and who the hell use pistols they're totally useless you know what do you need them for they don't have firepower they're they're you don't really do that you have assault rifles you have submachine guns but you don't use pistols anyway

we practiced on pistols and we put them in our boots we wore mechanics overall and now we go to the plane. We're going to fix the plane. There's no fixing to do, but we fix the plane. And they let you guys just walk up like that? No, they didn't actually. What they did was they put the Red Cross at a distance. These two hijackers, there's two hijackers, male and two women, okay? And they will blow up the plane if we just try to get close or if we do any shenanigans. Okay, so they put a red cross, uh, position within a hundred yards of the plane and they're looking down from the cockpit and the Red Cross is supposed to frisk us okay and we wear mechanics white overalls now before we

sit out I have this big argument with my brother he was also an officer I'm an officer a team officer in the unit and he's above us in a high role. And he says, he says, baby, I'm coming too. He said, you can't come in. There are only 14 or 15 soldiers coming in. We can't have two brothers going in there, you know.

He said, okay, then you go out. I'll take care. I'll take care over your team. I said, they're my soldiers. You can't do that. He said, okay. So we'll both go. And I said, Yoni, do you understand what you're saying? I mean, think of mother and father. Think of what would happen if one of us gets killed. You know what he said to me?

He said, baby, my life is my own and my death is my own. I didn't buy it. I said, I'm not leaving and you're not going. now we had an argument so we went to the commander of the unit and he sided with me and the only is left behind and there's a film of him

a documentary because people took a film and you see him like a caged young lion he's pacing back and forth but we now go through the Red Cross thing we're going baggage trains stop near the Red Cross thing and they're frisking us they were going to see

that we're not, that we're kosher, we're not armed. And each of it passes by that, and this is a French guy, okay? So he first says, frisk us, first comes to the boot, he feels that pistol, okay? And he says, mon dieu, you know, you know what that means? My God. And I tell him in French, in the halting French that I had, thought is great, and let me pass through. Okay?

now we climb on the wings and I take one wing with my team another team takes the other wing come from behind. We're ready to storm the plane and one of, oh, that's great, thank you.

And the commander is on the tarmac is going to blow the whistle and we're all going to punch into that plane simultaneously. Because if you knock out the door, the door bounces out. I didn't know that until we did that. Everything is ready to go. And then one of my team, who was a security officer, that we picked up at the airport, because these guys were very proficient, you know, they're sitting on planes and they're really well practiced with the pistols.

So we took whatever we found in the airport, and I had one of them with me. And he says, maybe you've got to stop the operation. And I said, what happened? He said, well, you see, I flew in from London, and the plane was packed, and during the whole four, five-hour flight, I tried to get to the John to the toilet, and I couldn't make it. So the minute we landed, you guys plucked me over, and now I'm on this operation, I have to go. I said, you what? I said, I have to go. I said, big or small? He said, big. I said, I don't believe this. So I jump off the plane, I call, go to the commander, and I say, you know, this guy has got to go.

He says, now? I said, now. He said, big or small? I said, big. He couldn't hold it? I guess you call it a shitty story, but anyway. You know, he comes off the plane, you know, he comes off the plane and whatever. He relieved himself under the futilege.

He comes back up. The commander blows the whistle. You know, we punched the door on both sides. The door flies out, and, you know, they're shooting at us. And one shot got through a passenger's, you know, I mean, she slumped over, and we had to push her aside in order to get in. And two of the terrorists, the male terrorists, run into the front, and the other guys in the front got them.

But we're afraid right now that they're going to blow up the plane because they were going to blow it up. And as I walk, as I rush in, the passengers say, that's her, that's her. Okay, and there's this woman sitting there with a, you know, sitting there in one of the seats, and I grab her hair and I push and I get a wig. Okay, grab her again. And, you know, and I say, where are the charges? Where are the charges?

And one of the security guards, another security guard that was in the front part of the plane, he says, Bebe, let me handle this. And he comes in, and I see his pistol is, you know, is sort of cocked, you know, and I can see the bullet in there. And his name was, by the way, Marco. That was his name, like Secretary of State, Marco. And I say, hey, Marco, don't do this. And he slaps her on the, you know, on the face.

And the bullet goes right through her into me and into my arm. And I felt like I was hit by a sledgehammer, you know. and they took me off the plane and I'm lying on the tarmac this whole thing took two minutes okay, the whole thing took two minutes killed the two terrorists, got the two women on terrorists

and I'm lying on the tarmac and I've got this you know this bullet in my arm and I see Yoni running my brother and he's running towards the plane and he he really has this

horrible, worried face on, you know, he's really tormented because he knows that his younger brother has been hit and lag over, you know, on the tarmac, and he comes in, stands above me,

he sees the red splash, you know, on my white overalls, on my sleeve, and this big grin spreads on his face. And he says, you see, Viby, I told you you shouldn't go. So that was that. And then a few years later, they decided the hijackers that they'll go to at Tebbi, Uganda, that's thousands of miles away. And that would be safe.

But they didn't reckon that Israel would reach them. They didn't reckon that Yoni would reach them. So he was the commander of the unit. I was at MIT at the time already. I was out of the army. And he led his forces there, and they liberated the hostages. And there was one military casualty. and she asked how it was in the unit and it was unit it was grade five years and after that

it was a pivotal moment in my life changed my life it directed it to its present course but it was for me my parents my younger brother it was filled with agony and that's why you know when our soldiers fell and we had this day tragic day we had five soldiers, young soldiers that fell for me it's not merely just the loss of these five souls but it also harkens back to the agony

that my parents had, that I had and I always say that you know you should use force very judiciously because life is precious and war is hell. It really is. It's not a cliche, it's true.

But sometimes you have no choice but to fight for your survival and for the future of your country. That's what my brother did. That's what I and my colleagues did in our military service. That's what brave Americans do and brave Israelis do very often.

Otherwise, we wouldn't be sitting here. Enjoying the life, the freedoms we have, the liberties we have. it's not free. It's not cost-free. And I hope young Americans who are listening to us can appreciate that because that is the lesson of the last century. If you're not prepared to defend freedom, you lose it.

It's true. Yeah. Yeah, the stuff people complain about here compared to other countries is insane. We're so grateful to live in countries like this. But you had generations of American servicemen and service women who purchased that freedom for you. Because you can't just, you know, hide in Fortress America. There's a difference.

You don't have to intervene in every conflict. You don't have to intervene in most conflicts. But you have to intervene in those conflicts that could jeopardize your national security, your freedom, your life. And that's what happened in Iran. because they were really threatening to develop the means of mass death and the means to deliver them to America

that could have jeopardized the life of every American and that's why I think a great thing has been done and I salute the service, the pilots of both our countries and the fighting men and women of Israel I took a, you know, you know what I call this operation? You know, there's a phrase in the Bible They shall rise like lions, okay?

That's what they say of the people of the ancient Israelites. They shall rise like lions. So I call it rising lion, rising lion. And boy, our soldiers fought like lions. I mean, they are very brave, very dedicated, and very noble. And the last thing they want is to kill civilians. That's the last thing they want. And they take efforts that no other army is done on this thing.

But the one thing they want to do is assure the future of our people. You know, we haven't traveled. Know how old the Jewish people is? America is 250 years old next year, right? Right? Well, the Jewish people are 3,500 years old, all right? Remember Moses parting the Red Sea? You know, that's about 3,500 years ago.

So we have a great history of great tragedy and great triumph. And we're not going to let it end by the mad Ayatollahs there, who want to reign death on both of us. And we're not going to be influenced by the people who are taken under their sway and support this cult of death. America stands for life. Israel stands for life. America stands for liberty. Israel stands for liberty. But President Trump and I believe in a doctrine that says simply this, peace through strength. First comes strength,

then comes the peace. And we've just demonstrated a lot of strength, and that's going to lead to a broadening of the peace in the Middle East and beyond. It's a great thing. How would you ideally like to see it end in a perfect scenario? Well, I'd like to see the people of Iran take charge of their own destiny, but in any case, I'd like to make sure that Iran never acquires nuclear weapons, and I think we've done a hell of a lot for that purpose, and I'd like to see peace with the remaining neighbors. We made peace, I made peace with President Trump help. I made peace with four Arab states in a month, you know, and I'd like to see that peace expand

to all our Arab neighbors. it's possible because the actions that we did in breaking the Iranian axis changed the situation in quite a few of the countries around us I think there are opportunities for peace there

and I intend to seize them we hope so for sure yeah I hope you and President Trump can make peace in the Middle East we're all praying for it we already have and I'm sure we can again and look if your audience

wants to have a good time you know go to Tel Aviv yeah you can about for you. Is that what you're going to say? Isn't Tel Aviv? Oh, yeah. Tel Aviv's lit. Yeah, it's fun. Tel Aviv's on fire. I haven't been in the summer. We went in February last time. So, we were supposed to come two weeks ago.

Like two days before the bombing, right? Two days before the bombing. You can come back now. Yeah. You know what's happening in Tel Avivis? You know what's happening in the Israeli stock market? What? You know what a vertical wall is? She's gone up. Stock is going up. You know why? Because people saw great technology during the war, because people are coming to invest in Israel because smart money moves very quickly. It's like the hottest, it's the hottest economy right now.

Well, the American economies give it a good competition, but Israel right now is shooting up because people realize that we have a great free market economy, great technology, great innovation, great entrepreneurs. And, you know,

the whole place has changed. Did you see Tel Aviv is a village, Or is a... Similar to Miami, I felt. A village? No. Yeah, that's what it was a few decades ago. Really?

It was very dilapidated. You say it's like Miami? Yeah. Isn't Miami on fire right now? Yeah, Miami's... Yeah, well, so Tel Aviv's on fire. Yeah, I really want to come again. I want to come in August.

Good. Yeah. The beaches are good. Yeah. And nightlife is good. Yeah, we tested the night life. We had a good time. Yeah, we tested the night life.

And I hear about it. I hear about it. but yeah we'll handle that yeah for you we'll make sure everything's well invite sarah and me we'll come you know awesome and i really mean it i'm really inviting all your friends to come see the truth and you'll be mesmerized and you'll be captivated and um you'll then say how is it that we could believe this nonsense you know it's like who pulled the wool over our eyes and how do we you know tear that away it's a different place different people a different country it's it's a great place it is we had a great time there and guess what we love america yeah so you

we love americans too so come over well we appreciate you uh giving us your time we know you probably had an insanely busy day yeah a lot of stuff more important than sitting down with two dummies here but we appreciate it no no no no we had good conversations here and we had very good conversations in the white house awesome all right prime minister thank you so much thank you thank you so much thank you You know what I'm going to be.