FULL SEND PODCAST - Bill Maher | Ep. 158
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Kyle.
What are you got there?
This?
This? This is our alcoholic drink.
Happy Dad?
Hard Seltzer.
Wow.
You're a drinker, right? A little bit or no?
Yeah, fuck you.
Yeah.
What do you got going there?
You know, it's 4 o'clock, so I'm not drinking it.
I don't know.
I save it for five.
I mean, I'm not a monster.
I mean, it's only an hour away.
Yeah, no, we're...
No, David Mamet is coming here to do my podcast after...
Okay.
After, I keep forgetting, I'm on your show.
Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, you ask the questions.
I'm just going to sit here.
What do you think, when does that change?
What age does?
Well, it's every, you know, everything.
Do you just stop giving a fuck?
It's just gradual, of course.
Life is an evolution.
It's not a revolution.
30 to, I'm almost 70.
That's 40 years.
Yes, you'll go through, you know, each decade is you're a different person a little bit.
You know, your friends will change somewhat, hopefully you have some your whole life.
but, you know, you change.
I mean, a lot of people change marriages, you know,
and it's not their fault.
People, you know, you're not the same person at 40 as you were at 20.
If you can still make that work with the same person, good.
Or if you're faking it, that's your choice.
But, you know, you're not a bad person if you're like,
Jesus Christ, I'm sorry, I married you at 20.
And now I'm just, you know, I've heard people say this,
not just the men, women even more saying,
They're married and they say that there are some days you just look over and go,
who's this person in my bed?
Marriage is scary, bro.
I mean, I never got married.
Look what you're talking to.
You've never been married once.
You didn't know that about me?
I didn't know that.
Wow.
You don't know me at all.
I don't know you.
Well, that's why I'm here to get to know you too.
No, but I mean, I talk about it on my show for 30 years.
Wow.
I mean, it comes up a lot.
Do you know I smoke pot?
I do know that.
Yeah.
I heard you don't call a pot, though.
You called cigarettes, right?
Oh.
Oh, I used to joke here.
on the podcast that because at first when I was doing it you know I was a little nervous about it
because there was talk that there were states maybe where it wasn't legal where you know
they wouldn't show the podcast but it turned out it was that their Brock was worse than
their bite and you and you could smoke and it didn't seem to affect anything but so I used to
joke when I was the first on a few months we did this and I was kind of nervous I would just
be smoking the joint and I'd be like
these clove cigarettes are fantastic and that's what people smoke when they're you know
how many how many cloves you're ripping a day not a lot you know people think I'm a huge pothead
I'm not a huge pot head I'm a pot head I'm a high functioning drug addict I'm very proud of it
but I don't even smoke every day no I try to limit it as much as I can because the less you do
the better it works I'd love to quit for a month but that's not going to happen Kyle I've tried
many times. I think weeds just person to person too. I don't think it has any, does it have any,
you know, like serious, serious health effects, not really, not like alcohol. It's definitely
not like alcohol. I mean, I don't believe my hippie friends who talk about it like it's health
food. I just, I go by common sense a lot with health and smoke in your lungs, you weren't born
with smoking your lungs. Is it better than cigarette smoke? Of course. And of course, you can even
try to up the odds on that by smoking the cleanest weed you can find. But are you there on
the farm when they pick it? I mean, just because it says on the bottle or whatever, I mean,
I'm lucky. I know some growers, so I can get, I can pretty, I've got, grow it here. I don't
personally, but, you know. You got a couple plants out there? I could show you, but we walk out, yeah.
You ever tossed a little tobacco in the join or not? Never. You're just clean straight weed.
Why would I do, why would you take, you're saying, okay, this isn't the greatest thing from my health, but it's way better than cigarettes and alcohol. Why would you then make it into a cigarette?
We used to call it batch bowls when we used to ripong. Like you put a little tobacco in and then you mix it with some green. And it just gives you like a nasty head rush and then you're also getting the high.
Tobacco actually affects you your high.
Well, it gives you that instant head rush right away. So we get the bowl, you get the head rush first and then it kind of simmers off and then you get the high.
Yeah, that's another thing you're going to outgrow, Kyle.
Yeah.
I don't even smoke like that no more.
I used to smoke morning, but I made me too lazy.
I used to like, you know, we would take the whipped cream cans in the bar at the comedy clubs,
and we would, if you bent back the nozzle, you'd get the gas, you know, because I would.
Oh, you guys were on some shit.
The whipped cream cans.
Yeah, the bartender would be pissed because then the whipped cream wouldn't come out because you,
robbed all the gas so you could get high and like that was a head rush but it lasted like you know
30 seconds the thing the idea that i would at this point in my life trade my health because it can't
be good to be you know force force breathing gas uh you got to outgrow the whipped cream for 30
seconds of a high it was just a terrible bargain but you know like i say you just you know you're
your cerebral cortex or whatever it is, it's just still growing, especially men.
Men just, you know, one of the hardest things in society really is,
no matter what age you live in, you know, women just mature much, much sooner.
And men, it takes, I mean, you literally, I think, need like a 40-year head start.
What do you mean?
I mean, like, like, you know, if I would, you know, hypothetically be going out with a 20-year head start.
the 26-year-old, hypothetically, it would be the correct amount of time between us.
You'd need to be 66 to be the same maturity level?
Well, I'm 69, but, you know, roughly, let's just, let's round down.
Yeah.
But I'm just saying you need a very, very, people are different, but to be like as mature as they are,
even in their mid-20s, yes, you need, that's my experience, is that you need to be way,
way, way older. I mean, I was not, I was not mature at all at 40.
Really? Yeah, because I think a lot of times in what you're doing in our lives, all of us.
Do you think that potentially is like the environment you're in? Or do you think like all
40-year-old would not be mature? I mean, you probably had a fucking playground, right?
I think what it is, is that you're always, in a sense, making up for the last era of your life.
Now, I did not have a good social life when I was an adolescent, when you should be.
You know, kids are mostly having fun at college.
They're known as party schools.
I had none of that experience.
I had a horrible time socially at school, college.
And in high school, I was very shy and, you know, I had one girlfriend, and that was it the whole time.
You know, so I was kind of like making up for my fun years of, you know, adolescents that didn't go well.
that happens a lot in our life we're making up for something in the past you know it can be something
in childhood you know people don't have great childhoods their parents fuck them up in some way and they're
always compensating for that in some way for late into life sometimes their whole life right so i think
that's one reason why i was you know socially not very mature at that age you know i just
still wanted to have fun i mean happens to women too they like
I've known women, I don't think I was personally involved with them, but who, like, had kids young, and then they get to be like 40, and they're like, I missed out.
Yeah, I missed out.
I, you know, I, you, and they get mad at the husband sometimes.
You robbed me of my youth, and I was raising your kids.
Yeah, nobody but a gun to your head.
No.
But now they want, you know, they want their day in the sun, and they want to be fun and hot and out.
and, you know, I get it. I get it. It's all how you handle it.
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or like going out and partying versus like now? What's the biggest differences you think?
I'm not out that much and I probably don't go to the places you go. But occasionally I do
because like somebody, I do like younger friends. I just do. I mean, a lot of my friends,
Certainly the ones I go out with, a lot are millennials.
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Thanks.
I owe it all to clean liquor, Kyle.
I was at this party, listen to this.
I was with somebody I know and her younger sister who's like, you know, very in the mix of Hollywood.
And the Hollywood social scene is just a lot of trust fun kids and NEPO babies.
That's who runs the nightlife.
Okay. So we went to this party. I remember it was outside. It was a nice night. And, you know, and I was looking for pot, or maybe I had pot.
So somebody asked me for pot. That's what it was. And I was like, me, why are you asking me? Why you don't you kids have any pot? Nobody had pot.
And I was like, what the fuck? Nobody, you're 22 and you, nobody's, you know why? Because they all are high when they came in on something they swallowed.
Ah, pot pills.
That's where the drug scene has gone.
yeah you do it before you leave the house it's they they perfected like perfect but they
certainly make commercialized made more uh easily to do like micro dosing of acid micro dosing of
mushrooms mushrooms is very very big now right microdosing right so they're not smoking pot because
they they're on a bigger drug before they even left and pot is sort of like you know old school
or something nevertheless a lot of people seem to want it when i when i lit it up yeah have you ever
have you ever fucked with the mushroom chocolates or anything like that well but i used to do mushrooms
when i mean we didn't put them in anything we they were like fucking out of the ground they
were like disgusting dried buds that you uh you know you found a way to eat it but sometimes
i mean it was like tastes like shit and then sometimes you got a little queasy or even
threw up but um yeah i remember that i think
I think the first time I did it, I put him in a tuna fish sandwich. That was not a good idea.
Tuna fish mushy sandwich?
I seem to remember that, yes. And then you could put them in the blender.
I remember doing that. Or just fucking eat them.
I mean, once you're high and you want more, somebody's got the little bag, just eat it.
You just eat the cap. That's what I mostly remember.
You've tripped pretty hard.
You know, I mean, acid nobody has done since like the 60s.
Timothy Leary told me that if he doesn't know no one knows. I mean he said it's a very hard thing to make in the lab that Owsley guy who made the original batch that the Beatles did and everybody did you know that was kind of the real LSD and then by the time I was I think the first time I did it was the I don't remember doing it in college I don't think it was around I did it like maybe in the 80s or something and they said it was ass it wasn't fucking ass that it was some bullshit that somebody put
together. They kind of got you high. It was a shitty trip. It was grungy. I remember I couldn't get
out of my body for a whole day. I was so, was it a trip? Not really. It was probably a bunch of
strychnine and speed and some fucking thing that he put together and they called it acid. And of course,
there's no regulation. How the fuck do you know what acid is? I just have no desire to try
acid. I don't know. But I think they probably have made something closer to it now. And I do know
people swear by the micro dosing of acid because they say it's not like you're tripping it's just like
you're very focused and you're in a great mood and you know i think they have really targeted that
somebody got the bright idea we can make a lot of money just taking some of these drugs that
people think are kind of like oh that's kind of a big investment to trip on acid am i really ready
and where am i going to do it and am i going to jump up a building and no let's let's make it like a lot
easier to do and not quite as severe. And I bet you we could make a lot of money. And I bet they do.
That's the next wave. Yeah. I think even the mushrooms. I wonder if those will ever get
legalized kind of like the way weed is now. Because people are really doing those too. I just tried them.
We had some Australian chicks that we went to Australian. We became, it's a good. We became friends with
them in Australia. And then they came out to visit us for New Year's. And we like partied for three
days straight like normal partying but then we were doing dry January so we stopped the drinking after
new years and then we switched to only mushrooms for three days so we did mushroom chocolates for like
three days and it feels like having like six drinks or something like especially when you're
outside and the sun and like i could see it being really big if it becomes legalized i think it is big
and when you did it the way i did it where you just really just ate it raw
It was just, you would just laugh at everything.
Yeah, you're just laughing.
The drug is like, I think, robbing all the serotonin.
Is that it?
You know, something like that, I'm not sure about it.
But you can feel like other people's energy on it too.
Like if someone's like in a shitty mood, you can kind of like steal it.
Yeah. One person can like a psychological.
Harsh your mellow.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That's true.
And it's also, I recall, bad coming down sometimes because you depleted.
your supply of whatever the chemical it is that makes you feel pretty good as a normal person
walking around. You just robbed that. Yeah. You just took it all. So now you're just like,
you know, it's probably close to what people who are depressed feel like who need, you know. I mean,
for years, they didn't treat depression with drugs, which was crazy because, you know,
psychiatrists, they were useless. It's not about that. These people just lack a
certain amount of whatever the serotonin or whatever it is that makes the endorphins which i call the
dolphins you think it's like a chemical imbalance of course it is well not all depression but much
they found yes people who went to shrinks for years and then they took one pill and it's like oh okay
so problem not exactly problem solved and of course there's lots of problems with with the drugs
themselves yeah don't a lot of people say that those drugs just kind of mask the problems and they
don't actually. Well, they can do that. They also can just like, yes, they'll take away your
lows, but also your highs. So you're just kind of like existing, you know, it probably takes
away your libido, you know, no, you're not depressed, but you might as well be because it's
very hard to be on psychedelic drugs, psychotropic, whatever the word is, drugs, and find the
exact right dosage and have it just be the good part and not the bad part. Of course, nowadays,
they just start kids way too early, way too much on drugs. No wonder the kids are all on drugs
because you put them on drugs, you horrible, horrible parents. Just, you know, severe cases,
yes, but, you know, boys are agitated. That's being a boy, okay? Once you start them on the
here, take a pill, you just created a drug addict for life.
They'll just switch the drug out for other ones.
Putting a kid on Adderall, it's like, it's pretty much legal meth, right?
It is.
It's exactly what it is.
The kid's unhappy.
Of course, he's a fucking kid.
I was mostly unhappy, not like fundamentally unhappy and certainly not because there was
anything really wrong in my life.
I was fortunate.
Just because I'm a control freak.
That's my nature.
You don't have any control when you're a kid.
You're vulnerable, you know, you're just, everything you want is like far away.
Like, I didn't really want to be a kid when I was a kid.
Adult shit looked good.
And I was right.
You always wanted to grow up, right?
Yeah.
I was right.
It is better, adult stuff.
What's the best error for you?
Like, I'm 30 right now.
Like, is this the best time or what is the best thing?
To me, it is now.
I mean, even with being older, it's not like I can't do everything I always could do, so that's good.
So it just gets better and better and better.
Well, you know, no, then at some point you die.
That's not better, you know.
But you know what I mean?
Yeah, I mean.
Because I get to sit here.
You're wise.
I get to get fucking.
Yeah, I mean, to me, I like it now.
Because, again, I just don't make stupid mistakes like I used to.
I just don't do stupid things.
I'm nicer.
I have no competition with anybody.
I've already won everything I wanted to win at.
The few things I didn't.
Yeah, you can't get everything.
you know um and i'm totally at peace with that and so i'm not like competitive with anybody i don't
have to prove anything i could quit tomorrow and i'd be very happy with my legacy and everything i did
so that i mean that kind of peace of mind i would say the thing conversely the thing that gnawed at me
the most when i was exactly your age is am i going to be a failure that probably created more
stress in my life than anything. Well, relationships, they cause a lot of stress. But that thought,
you know, oh my God, could I be like one of the losers in this game? You know, you know, because
that's the early 30s is when you started to see some of the guys you started out with in the
comedy club starting to, you know, get shows and stuff. And I'm like, oh shit, am I going to be
like the comic who never like gets to the next thing?
that would suck you know I'm not going to be a good failure so like that was super
stressful and I don't have you know you just don't have any of that now so you have
like all the the and also I you know I still love the job I do not I mean this one
is fun too but my real job but real time I mean it's like it's the best job in the
world and they keep hiring me to do it yeah and you know you reach so many people I can do
And I keep doing it better and better because you're just, you know, you've been doing something the longer time. You just get better at it. That would be true of anything. If I played the piano for 30 years, I'd be better at it now.
So that's all the good part. You know, the bad part is, yeah, you can much more likely, you know, tomorrow I could have a heart attack than you.
Yeah, that's safe to say, yeah. It depends what I'm doing, no, at the same time, right?
Yeah. No, you stupidity.
No, I'm good. I'm good.
You could definitely kill your heart with stupidity, too.
Young people do it all the time.
A couple of my boys, I've got to watch over.
I'm always...
I could have done it.
Many times I could have bought the farm with stupid drug, stupid drug tricks.
It's scary now with the drugs theory, right?
Yeah, there's a lot of shit in them.
Like fentanyl?
Yeah, the fentanyl shit.
How do you know it's none in the drugs you're doing?
You don't.
Every fucking cocaine line is a lottery ticket pretty much, right?
I think not, but yeah.
I am so glad I'm not doing those drugs anymore.
Yeah.
I mean, cocaine's just fucking, it's everywhere.
Every party you go to.
Really?
Oh, it's everywhere.
Yeah.
I'm not sure that ever really changed because I think when you look at the...
They got liquid cocaine now.
What is that?
I was at a house here in L.A.
And it's a fucking nasal bottle.
And it's liquid cocaine.
It's like a vape instead of a cigarette.
So instead of the stigma of going outside and smoking a cigarette, you're just vaping inside.
Instead of going to the bathroom and having to like, you know,
try to find the handicaps to all that you just have this liquid thing now and that's what
so it's what they're just like a vapor no it's like the allergy medicine like that you need you
don't really want to stick something up your nose that somebody else stuck up their nose do you
i mean fuck people are desperate for cocaine right probably they do when the bag runs out they're
probably going to do it yeah yeah would you at least wipe off the noddle i don't know i haven't
tried liquid cocaine but i don't know i'm observing i'm kind of past that stage a little bit
but yeah i'm past the liquid cocaine cocaine is i think always the one
that's going to get you. I mean, obviously, people die of other things, and heroin I don't know
about, but it must be fantastic because people just do anything for it. I mean, I'll suck your
dick is kind of like the middle name of everyone, every heroin addict. I mean, I don't know. Yeah,
I'm sure heroin is not a good thing to start because you'll just like it too much. Yeah.
But cocaine, certainly everybody, not everybody, but a lot of people like try it, experiment with it,
at least do it once or something and you know it's it's the classic honeymoon drug like you know at
first it's like wow this is cool and i don't need a lot of it and it's just it's a it's a it's a
really slope right a real scam soon enough you will be doing a little more a little more a little more
and then you know you just don't want to get to that place where you're waking up in the morning
it's the first thing you do and you're chasing that high all day thank god i never got to that
No, that's crazy.
But people do.
I mean, because cocaine has such diminishing returns.
Like you could chart it.
Like, oh, the first time I needed one line and I was high for four hours.
And, you know, six months later, I need 40 lines and I'm high for 20 minutes.
You know, it's like that.
Yeah.
It's a great product because it incites you to get more of the product.
Yeah.
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What was the best, like, decade to party in, you think?
you're young whatever decade that is 80s 90 no i'm saying whatever young doesn't matter they're all
there's people always partying but it's a young man's game young person's game so what was your
favorite favorite like partying like actually like what era you were like i mean i was out of control
really not out of control but sometimes you're out of i'm just saying i was just i feel like i ran a
little rough shot over this town from like say i don't know um not really
really the 80s. It was really older because like I had money and more money and you
know invited to more things like after I got politically incorrect started in 93. I used
to go out a lot with my my great friend Christopher Kidd Reed from Kid and Play 90s in
LA was probably sick. He was my we were drinking buddies and we we were a bad
influence on each other. I used to call him Ted for a while because I had a girlfriend
who did not like him, you know, and he's the greatest guy in the world, but, you know, it was, it was like he was, you know, he, what's his name, Ted?
No, no, his name is Chris, but I called him Ted because, because he was like Ted from the movie.
Okay.
You know, remember the movie Ted?
Yeah, yeah.
And, you know, Milakunis does not want Mark Wahlberg to have his teddy bear because it's just, it's just leading him to, you know, they're going to go do stupid boy shit and drink too much.
Yeah.
Chris was kind of like Ted like that.
Like, I'm not giving up my teddy bear.
I'm sorry.
They never did.
You get that one friend, yeah.
And you just bounce off each other?
But yes, and we just, we both liked our pot and liked our liquor.
I mean, I drank too much.
That was a stupid thing.
I could have, I should have just done it on pot.
But, you know, we would, you're young and your body takes it.
You will party to the extent that your body let you.
That's the rule I've found in life.
That's just the way it is.
when your body lets you have 30 drinks a week, you will.
That's so true.
And then you just shut down one day.
No, not shut down.
Well, I mean, like when I was younger, I definitely got more cold, flu, that kind of shit
because I kept my body shittier.
I had all that liquor to process, which is not good.
So my body was compromised and it was, did not have the defenses.
Nothing horrible happened.
But yeah, you're smoking and drink.
and partying and not getting enough sleep.
Yeah, you're going to be such, and now much less, you know.
Do you have a crazy party story?
I'm sure I've got a thousand, but I've got to tell us one.
Oh, I don't know.
Yeah, I guess I did crazy things.
I mean, I didn't like ever get up on the roof and jump into the pool.
I mean, it wasn't like rock star shit, but.
What was like the craziest party you've been to?
I had a couple of big ones here.
When I first got this.
Oh, you throw shakers?
No, not for 20.
20 years. But like when I first, I live next door, you know that, right? So this is, this property
came available like a few years after I moved in. And it was a lot of room and I wasn't actually
living here. So I said, oh, great, let's throw a party. I mean, this room itself was, was one of the
big parts, you know. Yeah, I could see that. This is a great party room because you can't destroy it.
It's just so solid and ugly to begin with. Well, I made it beautiful with all the stuff on the
walls and stuff but I mean it's just concrete and you know it is a down and dirty place and that's
perfect for a party with a bar and a pool table and uh but I had people swarming all over this
property I mean it was like an all day and then of course L.A. people come way late and then
don't leave when you want them to they won't leave the fuck out in L.A. I noticed that and they
also think people in L.A. think they can just like walk into any part it's like an open house
policy.
Compared to like Miami or something?
Like if you're having a party and people see it, see it on the block, they'll just walk in.
Well, people hear about it now.
Like, people text each other.
And it's like, you know, there's a party here.
And it's like, if you don't let people in, they kind of get pissed.
Because it's like, I think LA is more like an open house policy.
Wow.
I would really not go for that.
Yeah, it sucks.
I would be in a bad place if I had to like be the one to deal with people who got mad at me if I didn't let it.
Because like, my recollection of like the two parties I threw is like,
I think both times somebody let somebody in,
or somehow somebody got in who was like a real turd in the punch bowl.
You know, after the party was over, I heard from like every girl,
oh, you know, there's this asshole that was hitting on everybody.
And an obnoxious way.
I didn't even know this guy.
Yeah.
So throwing parties is...
It's a liability.
It's a lot.
Yeah.
Sometimes you just think, hey, you know, I'll have some people.
It seems like nothing.
And then it's like, well, there's got to be.
and we have liquor and you have to have enough supplies and is the toilet going to overflow you know and it's just it's even a even a small party it doesn't seem like a lot it's a lot and to throw a big party i mean you could buy a nice car for what like that party costs right had a lot of people i bet you know and also if you're part of like that you need people just bartenders and you know it's it's it's a lot are you into cars no
No. What are you into? Anything like watches or like anything like that?
No. No, I'm not that materialistic.
What do you like to spend your money?
I like having a lot of land.
Just buying land?
Well, land here.
How much land you got here?
Like how many grids do you have? I have a good spread here.
It's not exactly the ponderosa, but you could hold a hunt here if you combined all the
Spaces. Yeah, I'm not a materialistic person like that. I was robbed here, or at least ransacked, like last year, a break in while I was out.
At your house?
Yeah, right where I live next door. And, you know, all the draws were open. And you know what they took? Nothing. Because there's nothing to take.
they were looking for cash
I assume
you know
any like briefcase
anything they thought
might have cash in it
but you know
we're not in the era
anymore where people
steal TVs
TV's
so what was
you know
they were looking for jewelry
which I really don't have
you know
I have a watch
I mean you know
I don't give a shit
about stuff like that
that's a scary thing
but nothing
they didn't take anything
because they didn't find anything
that's good
Gorge Earth Policy.
So they are robbers.
You've had to done something crazy.
But then I fucking went nuts making this place robber proof.
Yeah.
I didn't even have an alarm, which was...
How did you go about that?
Oh, I can't tell you all the things, but I'm not going to give away our tricks.
But we definitely...
The alarm was the first thing, and then, yeah, I pitted a fool who tries to break in here now.
Yeah.
There's a lot of, like, home robberies in L.A., right?
Lots of home in...
They call it home in...
I live, they call it home invasion.
Yes, we have a lot of home invasion.
One of my best friends got his car robbed here.
Like, he just parked it, and when he came back, the car was gone.
And then eventually he tracked it down two days later, and it was just completely torn apart.
Like, all the parts were gone and shit.
Like, that LA's getting a bit fucked with that.
Oh, totally.
You live out here.
I live in Miami now.
Oh, Miami.
I lived here for like seven years in L.A.
I'm from Toronto, Canada originally.
Oh.
But I came down here when our YouTube started getting big because this was the spot for YouTube and all the influencers.
But we just moved to Miami about a year and a half ago.
Well, I'm going to have to make a call and you will be deported because you're not an American and we do not like migrants anymore.
So, bye-bye.
I actually helped our mutual friend Trump a lot.
I actually got shouted out in inauguration speech.
So you're more of a friend.
I would say we're acquainted now.
You're good friends with Dana though, right?
I am not good friends.
No.
I'm good friends with Kid Rock.
Kid Rock.
He's my friend.
Dana White sat there.
We did the podcast.
That was nice.
I like Dana.
I like everybody.
Everybody.
Doesn't mean I agree with everybody or, you know, go so far as to, like, I mean, there's a funny story.
So before we went to the White House, like a week before, Bob Kid Rock, texted me, and he said, he showed me this picture of like a vintage guitar or something.
said like, hey, I found this guitar.
What do you think we get this and give it to POTUS as a gift?
And I texted back, Bob, I'm not at the gift giving level yet.
Okay.
Let's see how the first date goes.
Okay.
So I think it's important that we all talk to each other.
And I want to talk to people.
And I think anyone who thinks it would have been the smart thing not to go to the White House
when you're invited by the President of the United States
to have an intimate dinner and talk to him
is absolutely fucking nuts
and I am super glad I went
and I have said to the right wingers
you know I took a lot of shit from the left for doing it
always stood my ground
went right back to criticizing Trump
exactly how I would have had we never met
you know I kept my honor
but I definitely think we should talk
and could I become friends
with anyone, yes, but it never happens.
Not friends. Friends happens over time.
Yeah, but you can also be friends with someone, I guess, and not agree with them political.
Totally, friendly, but friends is something different.
Yeah, but Trump had to have had to have cracked you up behind the scenes.
Both, both ways.
I think he really, I think he really enjoyed having somebody there.
Yeah.
who was funny and did make him laugh.
You guys were probably spitting back and forth.
Yeah, the whole time.
And, you know, I mean, the left got very mad at me
for reporting exactly, honestly, the way it happened.
And I kept saying,
did you see what I said about it?
Did you see what?
Okay.
So, like I kept saying, you know,
I'm just telling you what happened.
Don't, I'm the messenger here.
I'm just telling you.
You, this is information for you to deal with.
And, of course, for a lot of people, it's the old line from the great movie, you can't handle the truth.
They just couldn't handle the truth.
Yeah.
You know.
But, yeah, I mean.
I think you gained a lot of respect by doing them.
Totally.
Oh.
Anyone that thinks you shouldn't have fucking discourse is just.
It's crazy.
Yeah.
First of all, the left has no power.
And you're still not going to talk to them?
Right.
That's crazy.
It's like, talk about misjudging your leverage.
you don't control anything and your method is you're going to now you're going to run under the room screaming
I mean this is like high school lunch table thing uh-huh you know but you wouldn't have probably
met with him last in his last term right so there had to be some sort of shit you would have
well I mean but there's been a ship obviously anytime the president of the United States ever
invites me to the White House for a private dinner you're gone I'll go the first term I mean one
reason why this made sense to a degree was it's sort of what they call a Nixon and
China thing now that refers to when Nixon went to China to open up China
communist China people ever after that always called it a Nixon to China thing
because it meant Nixon had been so hard on communism that it made sense for him to
hear the credibility to go to China and open it up because he was the last person
they thought was weak on communism same with me and trump i had been so critical for so long i think
all with the facts on my side that it made sense and of course the night before we the dinner he
shit tweeted a bunch of it was hysteria it was perfect i was so glad of that it made it
for in character, you know,
this stupid Bill Maher's company.
Kid Rock thought it was a good idea.
I don't think it's a good idea.
It was great.
And then, of course, he was completely different when I was there.
And he is very different.
And I know that bothers people, but it's just the truth.
And, but it made sense for me.
And, you know, one of my prize possessions right now is I brought him that sheet of paper
where I printed the, count them,
56 different insulting things he said about me and of course he signed it without question
he probably loved there yeah i mean he certainly did it with with no hesitation i said will you
sign this yeah and it's just the funniest greatest fucking memento in the world where do you got
that at just it's in just hanging in my living room yeah you frame it totally of course yeah actually
i had a facsimile made uh because you can't tell the difference and framed it um the real one i
keeping a safe yeah away from the robbers away from this house yeah just a
really yeah just way way yeah I have nothing here I mean maybe that would be you know
somebody something that people would want to steal I don't know I don't think it'll be
that much worth that much money but it's worth a lot to me and it's it's just funny
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Where do you think, like, the left lost people?
I think it goes with the transgender shit.
Well, it's all that kind of stuff.
Now, I know your audience, you know, we can talk about this all day and they'll think,
oh, great, but, you know, just put it in perspective, I think the right is even worse
because they don't respect the rule of law anymore and they certainly don't respect
democracy, whether we will ever really have another.
election, we don't know. The fact that when a Republican wins, the White House life goes on
the next day, it's fine, it's perfect, no problem. If a Democrat wins, they just go ape shit
and make up a lot of shit about how it wasn't a real fair election, which is all just fucking
made up. And you guys and you kids who think that that's all cool, you should own that and do
a little more research.
That was just the Biden one, though, right?
I personally saw
no evidence that it was rigged, but yeah.
It was not. Many people studied it,
including Republicans. It was thrown out of court
like 60 times.
It was ridiculous.
Yeah. But that's where the, you know,
bros are.
But why that happened, I
completely understand.
Because
to your point about
transgender, it's not just
transgender. The far left, what we call the woke, you know, they seem to embrace every sort of
like obviously, aggressively, anti-common sense thing. So that people, like regular normal people,
a lot of them don't follow politics that closely, but they go, these people just seem to be so
deliberately
counterintuitive
deliberately counterintuitive
to common sense
like you really want to put this
hulking
trans woman but obviously
looks like a very large man
against women swimming and
things like that
and they do feel
absurd I can't let people
who have this worm in their brain
whatever that worm is
Bobby Kennedy is not the only one of the worm in his brain
I just can't let those people take over this country, and I totally get that.
It's one reason that the right does not hate me, even though I called them out on their shit
just as much and never stopped calling Trump out on his shit, because I recognize the craziness
on the other side too, and I call them out on their shit just as much.
It's just that if I had to balance the two, the left shit, yes, is still less fundamentally
existentially threatening and it actually affects way let's just got to like the woke shit got
too far you know and it is bad and it has affected lots of people just not as much as if we
never really have an election again uh and a lot of the other stuff what do you mean by that like
i just said there'll be no more what do you mean there's no more elections when a democrat loses
like Kamala like Hillary they go away they understand there's a winner and a loser in elections
Trump lost? This last one, he would have just accepted it?
Probably not, yeah.
Right.
I don't think that's a right issue. I think that's just a Trump issue.
Like, if J.D. Vance loses, if he runs next year, he'll probably shake hands and move on like a gentleman.
But it's Trump. That's what you get.
That's possible. But Trump is the right now.
Yeah. But I think that's just a Trump issue. That's just what you get.
That's a very, that's a very sanguine way to look at it. You're, I mean, you, that's possible.
I'm not going to say that's not possible, but expecting a very rosy future based on that, that may not be.
Well, it was pretty, let's say, you know, respectful, obviously, like the way she handled it, but let's say it was like that Ilhan Omar girl that ran or something.
Or AOC, I bet I could see them saying it was rigged too or something or having like a bit of a hissy fit.
Ilhan Omar would not accept the results.
or is not going to be the Democratic nominee for president.
But I'm saying there's different people in each parties that might throw a little bit of a fuss if they don't win.
A little bit of a fuss is different than what they have done, what they tried to do in 2020.
And by the way, he knows that.
Yeah, it's Trump.
He's a different type of guy, right?
The private guy knows that.
Yeah.
All right.
I got to do my other show.
Awesome.
Well, this is awesome, having you?
I appreciate it.
It's going to sit down with you and just getting the free knowledge.
basketball injury so that's what i'm gonna oh basketball injury you balling yeah you know had you injure it
you know just the jam fit oh it happened the pros are always yeah because then it's like it's it's funny
it doesn't hurt but it like it's got that unless you put the splint on it's gonna be like that for like
life yeah it's the tendon that's the worst because i can't play oh true actually i was at the
yesterday just playing lefty damn it's tough just past
passing and shit? No, I was just, you know...
A couple left-hand layups.
Working on, I can shoot like a short hookshot lefty, and I can of course shoot a lefty
lay-up. You can always make a, always make a positive out of a negative. If I come out of
this, like, better with going to my left, which I should, with all the training I'd be
put in, then I'm going to look on the bright side.
That's a great way to end it.
All right. Thank you, Bill. We appreciate you. Pleasure. Thank you for having me on.
It was awesome.
Thank you.