FULL SEND PODCAST - Bryson DeChambeau x Nelk Boys | Ep. 11

Episode Date: October 7, 2021

Bryson DeChambeau's Beef with Brooks Koepka & Being Ignored by Tiger Woods Presented by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer. Find Happy Dad near you http://happydad.com/find (21+ only). Video is available on http://youtube.com/fullsendpodcast/videos. Follow Nelk Boys on Instagram http://instagram.com/nelkboys. Part of the Shots Podcast Network (shots.com). You can listen to the audio version of this podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & anywhere you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So here we are episode. What episode are we on now? I bet you you don't even know. Who fucking cares? All right, we don't know. Straight up. No more episode numbers bullshit. I got to tell you, though,

I'm proud of each and every one of you because we've worked our asses off at this podcast here. We've been really cranking these episodes out. I'm even watching them. I'm even watching them. A golfer from Clovis, California, and I live in Dallas in Dallas. I mean, nobody.

And that man right there is Bryce and Deschambeau, one of the best golfers in the world. Rider Cup champion. And, uh, it's an honor to have you on here. By the way, a little ballsy to come on the full cent, We're a little bit aggressive.

I know you golf guys got to button it up a little bit. We do, but I think people seeing the different side of me is pretty sweet. You know, it's not every day you get to see the full true potential of, you know, who I am. And the golf course is pretty reserved. But I think, you know, there's a lot more to be said when it comes to me. And I'm super freaking excited to be on this. Sorry, Kyle. Is that tough sometimes to be, like, buttoned up like that and, like, have to, like, watch what you say all the time?

It's kind of brutal. I mean, I had a buddy of mine, Chris Pratt. well you guys probably know who he is subtle name dropped there subtle and he told me something really really good and it helped me out helped him through his career and acting because he was always playing this character and then going back to his family life right and he told me he was like bryson especially when I had all this Brooks and bryson stuff going on the slow play stuff going on whatever it was whatever controversy it was it was always making me who I am on the from the golf course to me it always made me feel like that was me

And so I started talking to Chris Pratt about it, and he's like, Bryson, you have to take yourself away from that. The person you are off the golf course is not going to be the same person you are on the golf course. It can't be. You know, people's perception and their idea of who you are is unfortunately going to be a fictional character. He said, so play that fictional character when you're on the golf course, and then when you're off the golf course, be who you are and know who you are. Don't let that fictional character change who you actually are.

And that made me comfortable with playing that. character out on the golf course. Now, I'm only talking about the bad times when things are going south, a lot of things are going against you. When I'm pumping it over the water on six at Arnold Palmer, I'm being me. It's not being anybody different. But when there's bad stuff going on and people are saying stuff, you suck, hit in the water, Brooksie, whatever it is, right?

I have to retract and go and be like, all right, that's okay. No big deal. I understand they're doing that because either one, they want to be in my spot. Or two, they're just drunk. Do you get heckled a lot? Do you get heckled a lot by the crowd? Absolutely. It's been a lot of heckling.

But I'll tell you, for the most part, it's changed. I think that dynamic has now changed because they're starting to understand who I am as I keep producing YouTube content, TikTok, Instagram stuff, because I want people to see who I actually am. And that's the tough part, is getting people to see who I truly am

compared to what the tour represents or puts me out to be as, or even just the media in general. That's the tough part. You go talk to a writer. I'll be out there's a lot of great writer, out there, it's tough to go talk to a writer because they take a snippet and they can do whatever they want with it, compared to being on a podcast or talking to somebody on camera, right? Because

they can see your true emotion. I think that plays different. Would you say, like, the media in golf is like the same as like the NBA and the NFL? Like, they just try to like twist your words. Well, I've never been in the NBA or anything. Or like when you see it, like just being like a LeBron James. I'm not that tall. Okay. I'm kidding. But I would say so. I think that there's a lot of outlets. And I'm not trying to knock anybody down. Don't think I'm doing that. What I'm saying is that, you know, it's all about clicks and likes nowadays, as you guys well know, right? But it's tough to do that while being your true self. And I think that's the tough part. When you get to it, when you see it, I think what you guys are doing is something

incredibly special and something that I wanted to be a part of because I think it shows the true self of a person, not just what people want you to think you are. Yep. Yeah, it's crazy. Media is all about clicks now. I tell people it's like, it's like an article is like us how we try to get clicks on like a YouTube video yeah like we're always thinking like title and thumbnail like what's going to get those clicks like sometimes you base your content around like what's just going to get clicks I don't think that's any different than like making a story now too right and like the news it's kind of fucked up yeah I just ignore all of it I don't know I don't really pay attention you don't you don't read comments nothing no I don't read it that much Brett usually tells me like

people are talking shit about you but I'm just like I really don't give a fuck that's just my mentality do you find it all like when they're when they're commenting at you when you're playing like throughout the round when they say stuff like Brooksie and stuff does that affect you at all mentally

during the game? I mean initially it did because it's like come on guys be respectful golf is a respectful sport but as time has gone on I've gotten used to it and I've gotten a brass chest

obviously I've gotten heat for it which you know I'm comfortable with it because at the end of the day if they're saying bad stuff about me or type and stuff it's just creating a better movement on the algorithm have they ever been like

hit you blow the belt like you got a small dick or like anything like not I said you do I heard one last week I said you did I mean No, I don't know

I just stopped saying No, you know At the Ryder Cup last week There were some fans that Says something really inappropriate To John Rahm and his wife And you just do not talk about Your family

And that's crossing a line I don't know, Shaquille O'Neal used to He said I'm going to fuck your wife, didn't he? No, I'm sorry, I don't even say I didn't mean But that's a little different now I mean certainly most of the population Will say that that is not

Shaq came across is a real joke though back to the Yeah, I like Shaq a lot That's a little below the belt Yeah, you can't talk about fucking other man's wife I'm sorry Especially Shaq too That guy's got a fucking horn on him Yeah, yeah

Buddy If Shaq's fucking your girl You're done for We're sorry We can't be going too crazy With crazy here He's a golf The full-samp podcast

Oh yeah you're right You're right I forgot I can't forget By the way Pace to play is a big thing With me golf wise You know I like to fucking

Zing out there Play 18 holes In two and a half hours Just fucking get this around Guy like you though I don't think that would happen. I do that when I'm not playing for $15 million dollars. Yeah. Oh, really? So you, but you

are a slow player. You're a fucking slow golfer, right? No, that's what they present me as. Ah, alright. I'm not even, I'm not even in the top 50 of slow players on tour. Okay. No, I mean, we have shot link data that tells you exactly what your time is over each and every shot. And I'm under

45 seconds in 5 out of 6 categories. The only category I'm not is on chipping, and that's because I walk to the green. So they count that walking to the green. Okay. And so everybody that walks to the green from the chipping area is over 45 seconds. Like it's just, it's almost impossible not to. There's some guys that don't, they can hit in 30 seconds, which is no problem.

So 45 seconds is like the limit. They say it's the limit to hitting a golf shot on average. Yeah. Especially when you're getting timed. If you go over 45 seconds, they warn you. If you do it again, you get a shot penalty. That's only happened a few times. Really?

Yeah, I've never gotten a penalty. I've been warned a few times. I've never been told I had a bad time. So you get warned. Sorry. let me go ahead again you get warned you get a bad timing and then that next one is a shot penalty

so I've never had in four years a plan I've never had a bad time so I've I've only been warned like we're timing the group so when you get warned the group gets timed and then you know everybody's time you had a plan on 45 seconds

they're always changing the rules right I mean it's every year so what's some rules right now you don't you don't really well that's that's what it is that's so um i don't even know the full rules because it's never happened i don't even have an issue anymore um i've picked up the pace on my potting chipping uh driving i'm one of the fastest off the tea in my iron plays is really good there was a time where i was just getting out on tour and uh i was playing with jordan zach johnson uh and jason and they were all known to take time as well and so it never didn't really help my i guess you

you say algorithm for keeping our group under time par so it's one of the things that you know just bad a little bit of bad time and bad luck in that regard but you know yeah am I going to take time for playing for millions of dollars yeah but when I'm on the golf course I'm finishing

I'm finishing golf in less than two and a half three hours every time I play if I was to play and I barely even play I rarely do also with your putting I see you do math when you're on the green what are you doing when you're on the green? Yeah yeah is one of like the only players saw that

right? Yeah. Everybody thinks I solve equations is fucking rain man. The sign is a man. Tiger calls me rain man sometimes. It's hilarious. No,

so we have an algorithm tells us pretty much how much a putt's going to break for any distance on any slope, on any green stem value. So all I... No, go ahead.

So essentially what we do is like, okay, I'm 10 feet away. I'm on a 2% slope. It's 12 inches. I'm not doing calculus on my head. I'm literally using a chart that tells me how forward aim based on distance, slope, and friction by the grid.

Are you selling the chart to the average dollars? So it's like calculus on the greens? Yeah, no, calculus is way harder. That's like looking at a chart and going, oh, that's what it is. So it's a lot easier, actually. Sleam's on, like, grade one math on the green stuff. No, I mean, I broke 100 in my fourth time playing. That's pretty solid, by the way.

That's dope. We don't know if it was, we don't know for sure. We weren't there. No, no moly against. I promised you. Did you use your bead counter? No, I literally just played out. I didn't even, no, I wasn't even trying to.

Brooks wouldn't be happy playing behind Sleen. that's all I got it either Is he like Is Brooks like Voldem broke 100? What do you think? What did what say that again? You think Celine broke 100? No, fuck no

I don't know I really have to count every shot It's different I'm gonna count every shot I wasn't going for 100 I was just playing to play And then on the You were playing with a fan too

I think he like I think he like I think he like It was that testing It was that Tustin Ranch Par 58 I don't know what the fuck tomorrow I'm new to golf So like it was part 72

But I don't know man I really did I really did Did you, uh, were you playing the red T's or? I was playing, uh, so there's, the white, he doesn't realize he doesn't even know he's getting, he doesn't even know he's getting chairs.

I love it. I actually really like playing golf. Like, I started, I love it. Slim is going to be nasty. Yeah, he will be good. I've started a month ago, man. Slim's gonna, he's got, he's got an obsession with Tiger Woods right now.

I love it. What do you, you think you could beat us though? If all four of us, we were talking shit in the car, and we spoke about a little before and you seemed pretty confident. If the four of us, which we're going to do,

scrambled against you, four-man scramble at let's say Augusta National actually we can't play there so no we can't but yes there's no chance what do you mean no chance we're a nine he's a nine we get four

attempts at every fucking show we would smoke you I broke a hundred how the fuck are you a nine I'm saying you're saying you're saying you're 70 oh 81 I'm good I'm good when there's shit on the line I'm good I just don't try in for you yeah you got to realize when I'm driving greens and making puts against Sergio you know

you got to realize you got to take that into account When the nerves get there to you, I usually perform decently well. We'll see. I've never played with you, so. No, that's true, yeah. But would you like that? But I think, I think on all honesty,

I would have a really good shot at beating it. And I'm down. We should do it. Us 4 versus. Do like a vlog style? Yeah, it's a lot. We got to do something like high stakes, though. Whether it's money or just a money or a bet.

I think a bet would be fun. Charity play too. It could be something for charity. It could be charity. Yeah, I'm down for that. that's what people don't realize too either like the tour and the players give so much back to charity i think that's super unique about this uh organization just what we do in general is that we love giving back and uh i mean i don't know how many millions of dollars we raised last year but you know

through my own foundation we've been raising a lot of money as well um we're getting close to that a million dollar mark i think and we're going to be doing some stuff with that but people don't understand the dedication uh golfers have to giving back so i'm down. I mean, I'm totally down. The Ryder Cup. We were going to do a give-back. We're, it's breast cancer month, so we're going to buy, like, we're going to buy girls' new racks.

Because, like, no, no. No, it's serious. When you get breast cancer, when you get breast cancer, like, girls have to, like, they do surgery and they remove their tits. So, like, girls that have breast cancer, we're going to raise money for our drop, and then we're going to use the money to buy girls' new racks. That's actually really awesome. That's awesome.

That's super cool. I'm giving back in a very unique way. fun? Yeah, it is fun. It's also fun. Rider Cup? You've got to talk about the Rider Cup here? Yeah.

Come on. You guys, congratulations. Thanks. We, the greatest team ever. The best team ever. Was that your first? First. No, it was my second.

I played over in Paris and got our asses handed to us. So that was a bit rough. I did not want to feel that again. How is the Rider Cup like different than? Well, we all come together as a team. You saw Brooks and I come together as a team. That was fun. I'd also say that.

I had a great partner, Scottie Shephler. He was insane. He's such a good player. He's never won on tour. He will win on tour. He's a rookie on the Ryder Cup, but he felt like a veteran. It was super sick.

And then we all just came together. And the most important thing about that event, I think, is as a country, we came together. We've been, obviously, struggling for a long time in this country, and we needed a little gusto, a little jump, right? I think the Ryder Cup kind of provided a little bit of that. I think golf is doing that. That's why it's so special and unique.

It's different than any other sport. And you can just create things. that nobody's ever seen before, and that's kind of what I'm trying to do. What was the best part of, like, tournament? I saw you eagled number one on the final day, right? The best part, my favorite part, no offense to Sergio. I love Sergio.

He's been super nice to me. I loved pulling the putter out after I smoked that drive on one under the green the last day in the series match. And I got the putter out before I walked off that first T-box, and it was in front of Sergio. Oh, you pulled the putter out on the T-box. Right in front of them.

Oh, shit. That's a power move. Straight to the chart. Tossed me my putter. And then I drained it. I think he put on his glasses after I drained the putter. That's crazy.

So that's a terrible start. That's the worst way of fucking star, bro. Like the guy who you're playing against your drops of 41. You're like, shit. It's gonna be a long day to day. I've seen Spieth, he, I don't know how to pronounce the name,

but he shot, no, you said it first. You actually couldn't have said it better. Honestly. No way. I seen on Instagram. My mom says Spithe, so, I mean. No, he putted and went in and out.

I've seen that. Oh, the 360s. That must have hurt, man. That was terrible. Here's a little science for you. How does a golf ball drop into the hole? It just goes in. Gravity?

Gravity? Yeah. But a golf ball has to have enough time for it to drop half of its width to hit the equator of the ball. And Jimmy back and forth end and going to go in the cup. You dissected that one. You were like, you should have done this, this, this, this. Do you do all your own research on everything? Or do you work with different people?

No, I work with my manufacturer, Cobra, and Bridgestone. So Bridgetown is a golf ball manufacturer, and then Cobra's equipment. And we work a lot on coming up with new ideas to solve unique issues and problems. For example, like nobody would know this, but hitting out of the rough, you probably lose half your spin. And that makes the ball jump and fly out really, really fast. So you get these people call them flyer lies. You hit a shot out of the rough and just gone over the green. and we're trying to find ways to mitigate that

so you don't get as many jumpers or a way to where it jumps all the time. So it's something consistent, right? And you have to do a lot of like research into the chemicals they're using to make a golf ball and just the plastics and all the stuff going to, even just the metals you're using on the face. It's wild.

There's so much that goes into it. I couldn't even explain in this hour. But even like you do a lot of things different on tour of the most players, right? The lengthier clubs, the putter. I've always tried to find a distinct advantage everything i was just read up on something before with flag pins being allowed in are they still loud in

so they are once yeah you leave the graphite in depends on the c oar coefficient or restitution of the flag so how hard it hits in the flag and how much it comes off the flag so most pins on the pj tour are really i guess you could say soft um they got a little c oar and so you can just hit it and just goes right in so you're hitting a punt it's going six feet by right it hits the flaxing drops in the cup yeah compared if there was no flag and it just go right over the hole not doesn't have enough time

Like, is that something you actually research yourself, though? Yeah. Like, I do things, I experiment on my own. So I go and look at certain research documents on topics, but most research documents are not, I guess you can say, descriptive or have enough info or money behind it to fully answer a question. So, for example, when I was putting, this is really cool, actually, when I was putting bad in 2017, I was doing face-on potting, I was trying a bunch of different shit. And it didn't really work that well. I was nothing what was working well and I eventually found arm lock

that worked pretty well but I still noticed I was having these weird putts from like five feet and in they were just coming off line really weird and so I did some study and some research on the golf ball and the geometry of those dimples and so

this is getting a bit technical but whatever no it's interesting yeah we all love golf man yeah yeah so the dimples if you hit it Slim's gonna be talking about dimples for a week this is very interesting now

you know the dimples I'm gonna have to fucking hear about this for the next week. Dimples and shit. I didn't know the dimples. Yeah, go ahead. Okay. So the dimples, they have edges on them, right?

Mm-hmm. And if you hit it, if you hit that dimple on an edge at the wrong angle, it can come off horizontally or vertically. Holy shit. Okay. Yeah. So, okay, do you have a golf, is there a golf ball anywhere? I don't know.

Is there a golf ball? Yeah, Gabe, you forgot the golf ball? Yeah, exactly. And the happy death? Man, don't make a joke. Wow. So, can you get one, Connor? I'm going to start doing this.

Okay. So anyway, we went to bring his room and get golf ball ball ball ball. out of his thing than anything else in that room fucking take it. Cubs are gone. But you know what it looks like, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. So if it's, so you got like a, it's almost like a suction cup sort of thing,

suction cup sort of thing. So when you hit it like at this angle, it'll twist and go offline. But if you're hitting it on the top or bottom of the dimple, it'll only affect like the vertical launch. So when I was putting, I was missing putts from super close ranges because it's hitting it off of the other

edges of the dimples. And so a lot of guys that miss short putts, they're like, oh, I'm I felt like I made a great stroke, but it just comes out and lips out of the hole from like a foot or two feet. It's because they're hitting it on an edge. So the firmer you hit it, the more of the golf ball compresses.

That's too much thinking, man. I don't know, man. Listen to me. Those the fuck he's all that. No, no, it's not that difficult. You want to break a hundred sleep or what? Jesus. Want to break a hundred?

We want to break 90. It's actually not difficult. It's not that difficult. So when you're hitting something a lot harder, that golf ball a lot harder, it's compressing and it doesn't come off at a weird angle. When you're hitting a softer,

like a five, footer, you hit it a little bit off of the edges, it can now come offline. So whenever you drop a golf ball, if you drop it from a super high position, it'll bounce straight up vertically. If you drop it from a low position,

the ball golf ball will bounce all over the place. Yeah, yeah. I see what you're saying now. But is that your, is that your own research? So glad Sleem got into golf. I love golf. But when you're missing those five, six footers, you're like, it's got to be the dimples on the ball?

I didn't know. So I was looking at like different putter designs, like what's going on? I felt like I was, I was taking every variable out of it. So I was hitting it on my line and it was still coming off at weird angles. Like I felt like I was stroking it perfect. I'd used numerous devices that told me my, my putter was squared impact. I was stroking it with a proper club path, proper, you know, line angle, attacking, all this stuff, right?

Whatever, right? Nothing you need to know about yet. And unfortunately, there's no answer to it. That's when I went and did my research. You think you're all, like, you know, because you're, you're, you know, because you're swing speeds now is fucking out of control. You look like you're swinging out of you like you're going to break your fucking back. Right? So do you think this could ever

backfire you on you the strategy where because there's a ball... When you swing harder, right, for like an amateur golfer, when I swing harder, the ball is a better chance you to fucking fly out of bounds. Yeah, you would break your back. Yeah. I mean, you'd go that far, but yeah. But I'll tell you that what's crazy is in the sport of long drive

it's the fewest amount of injuries I've ever seen in a sport. I mean, the guys in the PCA tour get injured way more than guys in long drive. For whatever reason, it just seems to be that when you learn how to swing a golf club really fast and you get comfortable, and your body gets comfortable with it,

it's weird. You don't get injured. It's wild. I'm talking about as far as just like consistency, like, does it have a chance? More likely now that you're going to hit a ball really bad, far right? Well, yeah, I mean, the equipment isn't built for

these types of speeds. So when you're getting upwards of 220, 220 mile hour ball speed, which, by the way, is 50 miles an hour faster than the PGA tour average. 50. 50 miles faster?

50 miles faster. That's your swing speed? Ball speed. My swing speed is 113 miles an hour. Is the swing speed average, 14, something like that. Maybe actually be more. Maybe like 15, whatever. In long drive, I'm like 145 right now,

so that's 30 miles an hour. What's your difference in fairways regulations from your old swing to now? Oh, I hit way less fairways, but I don't get... Right. It's just you want closer to the hole. You just want to be closer to the hole as possible. When in your career did you start, like, did you realize, like, I'm going to start, like, hitting bombs and, like, changing the game in that way?

Once I saw Cowbrook Sharer win the 2019 World Long Drive Championship, I was like, oh, okay, that's really interesting. Can I gain 10% of what he has? And if I could do that, what would that mean for my strokes gained off the T? Well, you're seeing it now. strokes gain number one off the T by a pretty good amount my iron plane wedging has suffered a little bit but I've made it up with how much I've

Do they test for steroids in the PGA? Yep. All PEDs. You got it. No. No. He just says, I'm sorry,

it's one of my questions on the list. I know, no, it's great. No, no, it's fine. So it's funny when I came back the first time they tested me within the first three weeks. Okay.

And unfortunately, because it's medical information and because the tour doesn't want to disclose everybody's medical information, they couldn't release it. And I was like, I want to release it. Like, no, we can't do that.

Just because of everybody else's and their own property, right? I guess you could say their own, not IP, but medical information. If you did take steroids, it would just take to another level. Oh, I'd be way faster. Right. You think Berkshire, this fucking guy, Kyle, is on steroids? No, no, no, no. I think there's probably some guys out there.

How far does he hit it? It's fucking 900. Okay, so just to give your perspective, just to give your perspective, I was at 214 today, ball speed, 214 mile an hour ball speed he was around 227 to 230 230 miles an hour he's 15 miles an hour faster

so that is 60 miles an hour faster than what I'm than the PGA tour average now does that piss you off though? Yes what that he hits it farther yeah yeah but you did this ever got out of control the spiral thinking of like

you're just hitting it farther as possible it could fuck up your original golf game no no no no well yes it did and I kept going down the road for every three months I would evaluate is it making my golf game worse or is it making it better? And over the course of time, I started seeing like, no, it's only enhancing my game.

Kyle, I mean, he was not even hitting it that good today. He hit one 455, and I hit it 412. Oh, yeah, that's crazy. 455. That's insane. That's crazy. It's disgusting. How long can your drivers be?

48 inches. It's a USGA limit. And what's regulation on tour? I mean, well, the regulations, you can't go past 48 inches, but usually guys have 45-inch drivers. So I'm out of 46-inch driver on tour. and this week 48.

You took a lot of... Sorry, go ahead. No, again. You see, he took a lot of shit for the Cobra thing, remember? He took shit for that? Remember, you gave shit to Cobra for the... By the way, in my defense,

your defense, I thought it was absolute bullshit. Like, you got a bad day with your driver. What happened? I didn't see that. He said my fucking driver sucks. That was it. So I don't know, I took so much shit for it. Yeah, the funny thing is, yeah, it's not right.

I mean, it wasn't right. It was more of me being frustrated with the driver that I had that day. It wasn't that the drivers are bad. But it was more of the driver head that I was using that we had shaved off, weighted up, changed the line angle, made the face curvature different. Didn't work. It wasn't working. So I had to go back to an old iteration. And so he caught me at a heated moment saying that and the golf world went bonanza thinking that I was blasting a company when I was just saying,

no, this driver head particularly. It'd be like saying, oh, this, this wedge is no good. This wedge is terrible. Or this driver, this wedge sucks, right? nobody would think anything of it. They'd be like, oh, you just move on to the next wedge or whatever. Or they think your wedging sucks, right? But people took it quite literally is that I'm saying that this company is sucking. So no, that's not the case in one bit at all. So this is a really good point, too. If you think about it, the sport of long drive or the speeds that I'm achieving or even Kyle's achieving,

you can relate it to, let's say, you know, Formula One and their tires, right? You're not going to use a Formula One tire on a commercial car, right? it just doesn't work. It's not for longevity or anything like that. But when you're trying to achieve the highest speed possible and maximizing everything, you've got to have the best performing tire out there. And it's not going to look the same as a normal commercial tire.

So that's kind of the analogy that you could give for that. Makes sense. Are you in, uh, I don't know this is a sensitive subject. Are you in Kepka? What's going on with Kepka, by the way? I hear all this shit about your little beef with this guy, uh, Brooks. And Ryder Cup obviously, you guys are four,

but by the way, you weren't paired together. Was there a situation to be spared together in the Ryder Cup? Yeah, there was, but he was a dick to me in 2018. What happened? It was just over the slow play stuff that happened. So, like, yeah, I took a long time for a put, but it was because other guys were in the fair way and we had time. It's like, okay, I'm not going to go because we're just going to be waiting on the next tea.

And we normally do that. Whatever. That happens. The golf world goes crazy because I took like two minutes to head a put, and I backed off of it once or twice or whatever. And that was when I was definitely slower and I improved that. since then, but yeah, I mean, he took a shot at me then, and I was like, dude, that's ridiculous. We're all just trying to do our best out here. Like, come on, don't be, don't be

that type of person. And so from then on, I just kind of was always this little sticking point. Is it like when you go to the range and hit balls and he walks as he chooses a slot next to you? Or like, does he make his way to not go near you? Or no, yeah, it was just never. We just didn't want anything to do with each other. Right. And you were just a rider cup champions and you just won the rider cup. I'm talking about in 2018. Yeah. So I'll just give you kind of a backstory on It's pretty interesting, man. And then I think in Abu Dhabi, what was it, 2019, maybe, Connor? It was like 2019 in Abu Dhabi when I talked about my abs compared to him?

Was it? It was Abu Dhabi, though. I remember I was doing a live stream, and somebody caught on live streaming me saying, like, I got abs, right? And then he does this picture with his major trophies. It's like, it's okay, I might not have abs, but I've got these trophies and whatnot, these major championships. And so that's kind of when things got really escalated. And it wasn't like, I wasn't thinking it was going to be a big deal, but it became a really big deal. And as time has gone on, it's just gone more escalated and more escalated.

And then it got to a point where Memorial, I think it was. What was it? He was saying, no, no, people are just starting to say, like, Brooksie to me. Like, because for whatever reason they're just thinking it was going to get me. Trying to rattle you get your head. Rattle me out. Rattle me, yeah. And which it wasn't a big deal.

I mean, people say a lot worse things than that. Does he own real estate in your head, though? No. No, no, no, not one bit. No. If anything, it's a, this PIP program came out. I don't know if you guys know, it's a player impact program. So there's a lot of incentives to create clicks and likes for the PGA tour and as players.

At the end of the year, every year, we get a bonus based off of who's the top. Really? On clicks? Well, there's Google searches. There's, I mean, look, Tigers probably. going to be number one. Yeah, right, because he's just the most known relevant golfer. So the PGA put that into place.

Yes, the PGA for players that may have not been, yeah, to create hype for the tour and everything like that. But it's going to also hurt some players like John Rom or Patrick Cantlay, even though he bagged 20 million in two weeks. You know, winning helps, playing well helps and all that. But there's certain players, like Calmore Kaawa is not going to probably get anything from it. Only the top 10 social media influencers on the tour will get.

get that bonus and it's huge it's a lot of money really but when you guys hugged at the end of the rider cup there was that moment where you guys hugged each other let's be out you guys don't fuck with each other right well I would look we had mutual respect for us at that point in time I think things have changed a little bit there will always

be competitive nature and we'll always kind of just be like you know we're you know I'm better than you or he's better than me or we're always going to be trying to kick each other's asses which is a good thing I mean I think the sport needs it in general but I've got nothing against him I don't think that, you know, we'll be hanging out and, you know, hitting balls next to each other all the time and doing that. But I think that, you know, we have a little bit more respect for each other now, for sure.

Who wins a cage wrestling match or a boxing match? He's got a pretty, he's got bigger arms. I do have a solid core. He doesn't have a six-pack, yeah? He doesn't have a six-pack, yeah. But he parties a little harder, too. Cardio, go ahead. No, yeah.

But I will say it would be a good battle. No comment. It would be a good battle, but I don't think it'd ever get to that point. I mean, golf is not that way, and nor would I ever do anything like that. I mean, I'm all for growing the game of golf, but I don't think wrestling for golf is something. Well, boxing, you could box, you know, talk about you can do Kepka versus D. Champo. That would fucking, that would go crazy. It would definitely kill it, for sure.

That would go crazy. But I think clicks would fly, yeah. Scrapping the clubhouse bathroom. Well, this is what I'm getting to is that there's some special coming here on the, probably near the. Thanksgiving we're gonna be doing something kind of fun okay it eventually has to happen that hasn't been announced yet I don't know what's going on with any of that stuff I don't know no idea but I know that it's gonna be something special you guys are gonna want to want to watch this really oh yeah is it a box it's not a boxing

who wins in 12 rounds of boxing though truthfully dude I have no idea throw it out there what I want to know that I've got Hudson and Hogan who have done some of that you never know but I would prep like nobody else how much it cost you to do a boxing match against Kevin? Oh it'd be a lot it'd be be way more than my net worth. Okay. Yeah. That'd be crazy.

Would you like to share where your net worth is? No. No. No. But it's fucked, man. You're fucked, dude. I just, I want to see a boxing bag.

I know, I know. I know. You mentioned Cantley. He said, did he win back to back when he won the bag there? I was watching, where was the first event when you played him in the six whole playoff?

Yeah, that was, uh, Caves Valley. And don't take this the wrong way. No, no, I know what you're going to say. Yeah.

Just, like, you fucking had him in those spots at the end there. And, like, do you ever reflect back on that as a golfer? Like, do you just completely? That whole night, it was terrible. Like, I was watching that, and I was like, God damn. Like, you fucking... I had it.

I mean, I should have won. Just as playing sports myself. I just miss, I miss puts coming down the stretch. Like, in the six holes, I missed a five-footer. I missed a 17-footer. I missed, like, a 21-footer. I missed a eight-footer, safe par. I got up and down out of the water, which was sick.

One of the holes made it for a foot-fur. So I've got no thought about it at all. But, you know, you're all good. Golf, it happens. It just happens, though. I mean, I've had many failures, many more failures than that. People don't realize, like, oh, my gosh, you can't close it out. Well, I've won a lot of times, and I think that people don't understand that I've clutched up in a lot of moments.

Oh, yeah, for sure. And they just think it's funny to nag at people and say, oh, you can't do this or you can't do that. And it's like, okay, guys, hilarious, funny. I've made some of those clutch-putch in golf history. It's crazy just how close it was, like you fucking have. close. I had it, man. But I'll tell you this, it's, it's, uh, honestly. Book Club on Monday. Gym on Tuesday.

Date night on Wednesday. Out on the town on Thursday. Quiet night in on Friday. It's good to have a routine. And it's good for your eyes too. Because with regular comprehensive eye exams at Specsavers, you'll know just how healthy they are. at specksavers.ca to book your next eye exam. I exams provided by independent optometrists.

It's the coolest thing being able to go out there and fight as hard as you possibly can and win. It's so amazing. And when you don't... That's like a... That's got to be the best. Winning a golf tournament? Yes. Oh my God. It's crazy. Millions of people. Yeah.

Clutching up and making that... Making a 15-footer... Yeah. We're never going to be able to do that moment in our lives. I can't imagine where much out on 18 would go on a first playoff. So the thing about this. Like, you making a 20-footer, and I've done it a few times, making a 20-footer to win, or even at the owner-palmer this year, I had a 30-footer, or something like that, I needed a two-putt to beat Lee Westwood, and I hit it five feet past the hole. And I had to make that putter going to the playoff, and I have to hit the same drive. Again, it was super difficult, and it was.

That's a lot of question. Oh, my gosh, Woodwood? Five, yeah. But he was playing believable at that point in time. He was playing unreal, right? He made a 12-footer on me. Anyway, whatever. The point is, is that making a five-footer to seal the deal

or a 10-footer to seal the deal, the chills that you get going through your body, possibly the greatest thrill-ride, joyride you could ever have in your entire life. Do you go out and just go fucking apes? I'll tell you, it's definitely better than sex. Do you party after a big win? Do you just go crazy? I don't go crazy, but I do celebrate.

I'm pretty reserved because I'm always in it for the next day. so for me if I go party and go crazy the next day if I lose that day that's another day that somebody else is working their ass off and beating me I always think about that I mean Hogan when I was growing up Hogan is my idol one of my idols and he said at best

he said a day you aren't practicing is another day somebody's getting better than you and if you don't work that day you lose out you lose out and so for me partying has always been this fun thing for a brief amount of time and then after that back to work

I'll I mentioned that one thing with Canley because I just couldn't imagine Sip it Sucky guy Kyle You guys the whole bottle of tequila No I will listen to me There are moments for that though

I'm not a fucking athlete I probably throw it out Once a year I'll do it once a year When it's in my off season And I've got no repercussions You like You got a lot of

You got a girlfriend now or no? No no I'm keeping that open Nice So You must what's it like on tour is there like girls that like come to all the events there must be like there must be yeah there must be a lot of politics

and like little groupy talk on the like the golf flags don't too like golf brids so yeah like golf braids so you're golf swag yeah I would say there's a lot of DM work a lot of groupies though in that space it's very small because I was day to think yeah Bryson's a DM assassin yeah for sure lights it up maybe

yeah low key definitely Snapchat too I'm not saying anything you're allowed to be though you're allowed to be you work hard Do you, like, analyze the DM slide-ins, too, like science and math? No, you must move with the general stuff. It's this. It's this. It's this.

It's this. I click, look at the profile. Eh, I'm good. Eh. So you judge a book by its cover, huh? Well, when you see a good one? Oh, shit. Okay.

Are you replying, like, no, no, no, no, no. Like, three dots? I'm always, I mean, for me, like, it's weird because I've started, I don't know how to say this. it's very dynamic let's say that as of right now and i'm just trying to keep it simple and um as time goes on i eventually want to find the right person i'm trying to find the right person right now and i feel like i've i there is somebody that i am talking to that's different and unique and you know there's something there potentially but last year and the years before it was definitely i mean i was dating this is one girl for a couple years and she was great it was fun uh just didn't

work out very well but then there was there's just been some times where I've been trying to see what I like experience. Chicks can fuck up your head especially golf being such like a sport where you gotta stay focused and everything like you know like your girl like cheated on

you fuck another guy that will mess up everything I hate when you're like yeah when you have like girl problems and you're playing golf it actually does fuck with your head a little bit yeah that's when we like that's why I've tried to stay out of it you gotta watch what you're saying too in the DMs as well right?

Yeah for sure I mean screenshots are always and I'm never disrespectful I don't, I don't ever, you can't, you just can't do that, man. No. Hell no. Rule number one, we never, I really don't associate. If I see a guy, like, if I'm doing business somebody or whatever, and I just see them being, like, a dick to a woman or, like, being disrespectful to any way, shape, form.

That's my number one pet peeve. I don't fuck with that at all. We're about to fire people from my crew that's on that, right? Yeah. Good. Not saying, you have to, you know, the DMs, sling a couple, you know, photos over or anything like that. Once in a while I've done that. Yeah, your DM game is just fucking horrible, though, for sure.

By the way, and if I had the... What's your pickup line? Hold up. I got to notice. What is your... What's like, if you had the hottest girl out there, you, what are you saying? It depends situation, but usually if it's a DM, you got that's usually fire. I'm usually so busy.

You probably like tell them you can get them like a draft king's deal or some shit like that. Or buffalo waltus. I'm working on it. That's one of my go-tos. Have you ever been to Buffalo Wildwood? No, I'm just usually like, yo, what's good? Wings on me. But see, if I meet somebody face-to-face, like, by the way,

I've done all right for myself, I think, in the lady's department. I think I'm pretty, you know. We don't know. I'm actually... Bob pulls smokes, man. You know. I don't know what his past. Because I'm a genuine...

They're around for like two, three weeks. I mean, they're all... They come around. You know, I get them for the time... They're smokes. But they are, it goes, no, I don't think I think that it's... My theory's always been with a girl. You know, you're just up front, honest.

You're respectful. And you're a good guy. I mean, it can never go wrong that way. You know, I don't believe in the mentality that, like, you know, asshole, you know, being the dick, you know, I have to be the dick. Sometimes that's a way to block yourself, but, you know. Yeah. It happens. But my closing rate's pretty good.

Nice. I'm happy for you. It's been good. If I think I found the one I'd love to, you know, it's just so we go. We want to put that a record. Moving on. Back to Bryson. Is there like a lot of politics and like all the, and like the tour and shit like that or like little like. Oh, man. Is it like you can't like talk to this person type shit at the beginning or like,

because there's obviously a lot of stars in golf too, right? We're all pretty friendly, but there is. a lot of politics in golf in regards to just the management and the way things are dealt with and everything like that. It's very interesting. And the way it works is like we are independent contractors, but we kind of sign away our media rights and social image, I guess you could say. And so when we're on property, like for example, I can't really post really any of my sponsors on property on a golf course. If I'm a foot off

of the golf course, I can do anything I want for any of my sponsors. Really? Yeah, because you can't post it, but you can wear. You can wear. You can wear it, but you can't promote. On your socials. Correct. On your socials. You can do it in interviews and stuff like that after the round, whatever, right? But you can't post a picture on your Instagram or YouTube or

whatever. You know, PJ Tour, they monetize obviously, from what I know, their YouTube page. They've done really well off of that. You know, I hope it goes back into the purses and all that, but we don't know. So a lot of it's kind of just we really don't know everything that goes on, which is kind of interesting. And then, you know, the image stuff, like, for example, if I'm trying to promote a company, I cannot do it on property.

And the reason is because it'll conflict potentially with another sponsor they have for that tournament, right? And so that's the issue. And it's frustrating because it's like, well, we're all members of the tour. So why can't we do that? Why can't we all be like happy, you go lucky, right? Because you know, you got FedEx, right? It's a huge sponsor the PGA tour, but if you're with UPS, you can't post UPS on a tour, it's really, really interesting. A majority of the players you think in agreement with what you're saying? I think there's a lot of people that are starting to see what's going on and asking questions. Right. Asking a lot more. So, I mean, look, I love the PJ tour. I think what they've done is

amazing. Don't get me wrong. I mean, my livelihood is based off of it, right? But I don't I don't want people to think that I don't want other players to have Stockholm syndrome. Right. So, as if you know what that means. I don't. I was just pretending like I did. Yeah, me too. That's why I was like, yep.

No, I don't know. So what is it's falling in love with, what is Stockholm syndrome? It's falling in love with your captor in the sense. So, you know, it's very interesting. Is how important is a, have you won a major yet? Have I? Yes, he didn't. No.

You've not want to, how important is that to win a major, obviously? I love it. I love it. He just goes along with that. He just goes along with not knowing. Oh, fuck. You want a major? Yeah, buddy. Wake up. Fuck, I'm going to get grilled again. What's his name again, Bob? Bob thinks we have... Pinning comments. Pitting comments of fire Bob right now. Who is your

inspiration when you first got in the golf? I'm guessing Tiger was. Tiger was the initial one. Yeah, I won the 2020 U.S. Open at Wingfoot, but that's okay. No big deal. Yeah, no around. Should Gabe step in for minutes? Anyone? No. eight events total was it uh you have one 10 worldwide that's crazy my voice cracked on 28 uh lot

a lot more majors to come though i hope so man it's uh one of those things that you i want masters is the one i want to get yeah you're gonna get there that's the one so i'm excited for the future getting that first major was unbelievable obviously it's that making that six-footer finish it off was just the coolest thing ever and then see my parents after they were on uh zoom or or or one stream or it was some sort of streaming thing and it was just crazy to see them back at home in california and then me just look at them knowing that i'd won my first major and sitting there going i did it and i did it for my parents for my family for my you know was that the best day of your life it was one of the best days of my life for sure i mean i

cried i don't usually cry very often i cried then it was his golf is such a tough Sports are amazing. It's so fucking I don't know how you can do it for him. The success rate, I mean, the win rate of Tiger at his prime, I think it was like 11% win rate, which is unheard of.

Unheard of. It's unbelievable. Right? So like my win rate is like, oh shoot, I've played like 120. So it's less than like a percent. But you're always up there.

Yeah, I mean, you're always doing well and making money. It's great. It's crazy how solid you got to play all weekend for a round. Yeah, four days. So think about it. Think about it.

Not one day, like you have a good day. I want people to understand how difficult this actually is. So you go to a tournament, right? Let's say you're playing a three-week stretch. You go to a tournament, you're there on Monday, right? Sign up, register, do whatever. Practicing on the range, hidden balls, putting, chipping, getting comfortable with your game. You go play nine or sometimes 18.

The next day, you got to do it again. You got to go practice, get more comfortable, dial in your clubs, whatever, getting more comfortable. Wednesday, you got a pro-am. 18-hole pro-pro-m. usually we're just starting to switch to nine holes 18 hole pro am that's a four and a half hour ordeal you're out there in the golf course again playing the golf course

I would love that that seems like so much fun it's not your time it seems like so much fun it gets better then you got four days of tournament golf so the first day Thursday is kind of like all right whatever just can come you know going out there trying to

get up the leaderboard a little bit second day some guys are just trying to make the cut some guys their games aren't good and they're just struggling. And so this is their livelihood. They're doing their absolute best. And I'll tell you an interesting stat too after this little conversation, but it may mean a lot. Actually, it'll mean a lot saying this first. So anybody that's outside the top 165 on the money list is losing money every year. Say that again. They don't make money. Top 165. Outside of that, they're losing money. Why? Because they got to pay for all their travel. We're independent contractors.

We pay for all of our expenses. Crazy. So you're going out there and playing for it. Do you got to like... We, every hotel, we have to pay on our own food. And you got to find it yourself? Yeah, you do everything yourself. They don't like set you on.

You do everything yourself. That's a lot, man. You do everything yourself and you've got a family to feed and you're missing cuts. Which, when you miss a cut, you make nothing. Then it's just more pressure on you the next time. Exactly. So that's the first thing. If it's your true job.

You think it's great. But once you start going on the nitty, gritty details and it's your livelihood, it's a very interesting scenario. go. I'll tell you that the guys that are 1.25 and end, we're having a great life. No issues. But I feel so bad for the guys that are 165 or even on the Corn Ferry Tour.

Those guys are not, although the purses are continuing to go up each year, which is great and we love the sponsors because of that, it's still a difficult life. And so when you go and do these three weeks dents and you miss all three cuts and you're grinding Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday, and then you go Thursday, Friday, you miss the cut.

And you get the weekend off, but you're still grinding on Saturday, Sunday because you've got to get good for the next week and you still can't find your game you're still not doing well because there's so many players that are way better than you and you're still missing cuts I miss 14 cuts in a row my first year on tour nobody knows that very many what was that like when you were in that stage were you ever like

really depending on money from golf or really I was lucky enough to have sponsors okay very very lucky when I got on tour I had sponsors which is awesome and made me okay but I didn't know if I was going to be on the PGA tour after the first year I had to go to you know I potentially was going to be off the PGA tour and going back through

the cornfairy tour finals and seeing I might make it out again. It's not a fun process. Also, one time you thought you missed the cut and had to fly all the way back? That was fun. What happened with that? So that was in Charlotte this year, Quail Hollow.

And I was like, there's no way. I just finished, I doubled or tripled seven, which is a birdie hole, super easy. I missed a birdie put on, I think, on eight, part nine. I made a birdie on eight, I chipped in, actually. And number nine, finished, I'm walking off the golf course. I'm three over, the cuts at like one under.

No chance I'm making the cut. So you just took off I was like, let's go Let's go Meanwhile we fly We go Halfway through the air Connor

Look at that's phone He was Bryson You may make this cut I'm like what Where were you when you found that out In the air Halfway back The pilot does a fucking

You turn He's breaking in the cockpit Well that's what Connor went up It was like Guys we may have to land And come back If he makes a cut Because the wind

Picked up 30 miles an hour That afternoon So went from like nothing To 30 miles an hour that afternoon and everybody was playing terrible and the cut and went from to even par one over far two over par and we just saw that it was we had like five more holes left I think all the guys had five more holes left and it went to three over par or something like that's amazing yeah it doesn't it rarely happens is it worth going back though sometimes like is it like oh fuck I just made

the cut yeah well sometimes so you know flying privately is not cheap right so I had to weigh the cost of okay this is going to cost me this to get there if I go top 10 it's great I make a bag and call it a day right but if I finish 50th I still lose for the week but I was still thinking okay FedEx kept points and all that okay it means a lot for the tournament first off going back then showing you know my support and respect for them and for the FedEx Cup playoffs so I flew back I went in top top top 10 that week that's crazy that's what I go out how important is a caddy in the game of golf very important so Tim Tucker was my pretty much first caddy that had for a long time and he was unbelievable and some life things happened with him this year and everybody thought it was a big

deal when it really wasn't. He had just some personal life stuff that I won't get into. But unbelievable human being that helped me come up with a lot of the, I guess you could say, not really algorithms, but just the systematic way we go about our business on the golf course to play really well. And then as time went on, he knew he was, his knees were not doing well. He was going to be done here in the next year or two or whatever so I was already prepping somebody else did you have like an interview process like did you interview yeah I sat down with them I um went studied the trots in a tuxedo or a business suit whatever right and I was across now um so I just had known this guy for three years and I asked him a question one day about potentially academy

for me goes and he was a teaching pro at the time and he was like sounds interesting I don't know I said well you're going to make probably three or four X of what you're making now and he was like I know but you know I don't know if I want that lifestyle or whatnot and a lot went into it and eventually came to the point where he was like I think I might want to do it and we had become really good friends throughout this two three year process he was a guy that helped me speed train so he would always be the hype man they're always with you caddies are always with you right they're like 20 like they are it's like being married yeah it's really like being married ever get sick of each other all the time yeah yeah that's why he's in

Vegas and are you getting a you know what your caddy is gambling heavily right now yes your catty is it always it's a great poker player by the way I think from what I'm from what I heard you know I was a caddy know I was just a caddy for like something that didn't matter like guys that would just go out get

fucked up gamble for money and not give a shit about like I would shoot where was it uh Wilshire country club okay I would like shoot the you know and they have the thing the scope I'd like just not have slept the night before and like shoot the fucking tree instead behind it and give him like he probably gave the four arms

He gave the worst reads there? I was great at running, grabbing beers, getting the fucking group zapped. And, like, you know, that's why I got my jobs. As far as, like, reading the greens, I'd be, like, on the wrong side of the whole fucking... I was not a good caddy. I'll say it here first.

Well, I couldn't have expected more of that. Is it always, like, is it 10% caddies always get, or how does it work? Is it, like, always a negotiation? No, no, no. No? So, depending on how you play, like, if you make the cut,

or if you miss the cut, you're still paying a flat rate. And if you make the cut, if you finish top... My structure's, like, 20, or something like that you make a certain percentage and then it gets amped up when I finish top 10 and then when I win

it's 10% yeah so if you win what's the biggest prize pool you can win the FedEx thing like FedEx Cup is what how much million 15 million so they get 1.5 million? Yeah they get one and a half million dollars. Wow what a fucking payday that is huh? Yeah that's that's one where you're out having fun that's where your caddies dial them yeah yeah but then the caddies on the corn fairy

think about the caties on the cornfairy tour where the players aren't making any money sometimes the caddies make more than the players on the corned ferry tour because the players aren't making any money every single week but they're having to pay them a flat rate

do you ever do you ever find yourself like I've seen a lot of clips and stuff I'm not saying all the time at all but do you ever find yourself like arguing with your caddy

on the course or going against them and all the time yeah every that's just a non-stop battle every player in Caddy does yeah it's not and sometimes it's like

fuck you I'm right and sometimes it's like absolutely you're an idiot right just see Kenny Harms and Kevin Nah the interaction between Kevin Don's

catty is legendary unbelievable I saw the clip of John Rim like not too long ago I think yeah yeah there's times where it's not bad yeah there's times where it's like that but there's still together right so just sometimes you just Steve Williams with the three golf balls

on Pebble Beach Tigers on 18 oh that's a great story how crazy is that yeah like what would you do it he's disqualified yeah at that point in time he would have been but nowadays you can just go get golf balls from the room or whatever like yeah you can do that stuff if you run out so that's crazy it's wild Yeah, golf is, I'm telling you

It's one of the most amazing sports in the world It's a great One of the most difficult, I love, man One of the most difficult sports in the world But I will tell you, it's one of the most frustrating sports in the world Yes, for sure Well, especially when you're playing, yeah

If it's your livelihood, that's crazy, like, we get pissed Yeah, man I miss a double bogey I care, man, people, so people People often times I get pissed when I lose bets too Like I'm, yeah We're arguing on the course and shit

We never argue for betting where, like, I'm not even talking to you. Yeah, if you've never played golf, you don't know the type of rage it can produce out of you. Would you ever want to be, do you agree with the miced up thing? They were thinking about micing you guys up? Well, in regards to the sponsors we all have on tour, it's the worst idea.

Right. It is the worst. But I tell you, it'd be amazing if it was like on a streaming service and we all, for like, if we all for a day could just say, okay, no repercussions from any of the sponsors and go say what you want to say, we would be saying everything, absolutely everything, that every

average golfer says in the golf And I think that's how it should be going insane. Clips would be going crazy. I think that's how golf should be though. I mean the biggest chirps come out on the course. You did too Brian Zerf, a good friend of mine, help produce the, how was the match? Dude, that was fun. We had some bombs up there with

Phil and Brady. Well, Brady didn't really hit that many bombs. But Aaron, Aaron did. I'm just kidding. I love Brady. Was that your first time meeting the best quarterback to ever play the game? Aaron? I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm kidding. Good one. Aaron's got a way

No, I know he does. That's why I'm joking. I'm joking. He's most talented for sure. I know Tom is the goat, obviously. By far. What's your first interaction with him? Wide-eyed and just going, it looked like he was zapped.

Like I zapped on like seven to be. But no, I met him. He was like, hey, buddy, how you doing? Bryson, right? Like, yeah, man, great to meet you, man. You seem like you're unbelievable person. And, you know, and then he was. But no, he was great.

And his wife was great, too. and no bad words to say about him. It was awesome. The way everything went down, he was chirping in my ear the whole round and just banter back and forth. It was great. I mean, I loved it.

And then Aaron, it's weird. Aaron would banter in his own way. It wasn't like the normal banter the ear. It was very subtle, and it didn't sound like he meant, it wasn't forced. It was just like a subtle little thing that would come out and be like,

oh, wow, that was a big burn. Yeah. But it didn't feel like it was like... Hits you like five seconds after? I just got chirp. And you're just relaxed and low-key. Oh, shit. I was his catty for a while.

That was pretty good. It sounds like he's not trying to chirp you, but it was like, fuck. Yeah, that hit me hard. Exactly. Right. One of those sorts of things. That would hurt. But yeah, the whole match is great.

Brian obviously was unbelievable. And I'd say the most important thing is we raised a lot of money for charity. That was awesome. You guys did. Like I was saying earlier, one of your biggest inspiration was Tiger Woods. What's your relationship with him now? like oh um you know as you said earlier he's my dad so so no he's he's been great um first time i met him in 2018 this is hilarious it's possibly the most nervous i've ever been on the golf

course my entire life more nervous than the rider cup more nervous than the long drive thing that was dumb doing today um it was by far the coolest most nerve-wracking experience number 10 tory pines that's where i played with him the first time he asked me to go play I was like uh yeah let's do it why not and we get out there media everywhere and tiger just stoic as ever you know he and i've been texting with him a little bit but shook his hand and just like nothing there was nothing you just look at you he just blocked it that's crazy walk right past you like you were nothing that's crazy and that's why i first met him yeah you'd be like this and just look at you and just look away and not even know you were there anymore that's how

weird but amazing it was so i'm talk to him okay cool whatever go to the first go the 10th tee hit a drive and as we're just walking down the course i don't know what to say to him right because he's my idol right and somebody i've grown up wanting to play golf with and compete against and for the first two or three holes there was really not much at all to be said and then finally on 12 i asked him about something and it's like because i'm a little i'm a geek when it comes to putting and golf, whatever, right? Everybody calls me his scientist, whatever.

He's a nerd as well. Complete nerd. And I love it. It's super awesome. I started talking about putting, and he just goes down the rabbit hole, man. It was as deep as you think he could go with putting. To the dimples on the ball?

He went deeper than that. Oh, yeah. He knows anything and everything about putting. What's what? Yeah. And so we just connected super well from that. Is he hard? No, it's got to be hard, too,

because when you play in a match, You've been a group with Tiger before in a route, right. When you play with him, there's fucking everybody around in the group. Does that work for you? Do you like playing with two shitty golfers and you have nobody watching you? Even though you draw some people as well. No, no, I love it. I think in 2018, that's one of the reasons why I won at TPC Boston for the Dell Technologies.

I played with them Saturday, and the crowd is huge, obviously, paired with him, Tiger Night. He goes out and he's playing pretty well, but for whatever reason, I felt like I was feeding off of that crowd when they were going crazy for Tiger. So for example, Tiger hits his drive on two and it was just right down the middle, whatever. And I was hitting it past him probably 20 yards, something like that at time. And I would stripe a drive and there'd be just a little

clap and then Tiger would hit and be like yeah, let's go! Everybody's going crazy, right? So that's the difference. Yeah, that's a different dynamic. And I still tried to use that energy and play well. And so ultimately, I went shot 63 that round and he shot 68. it's going to be tough too when he's when he's like not

when he's not your group though too you gotta be mindful right of when he's like hitting sometimes because doesn't it you do because he could walk and the crowd walks and goes crazy and starts yelling tiger so he his whole entire life has had to control crowds by his motion to be respectful towards other players people don't understand how much of a mental toll that actually is

I think it's nothing but it's actually like okay when do I move how do I move to make sure I'm not affecting other players he is cognizant of that You could use it in your favor and be kind of like slimy and like when you're guy. Yeah, I mean. Just take one step right when you're hitting right first. I'm sure there was.

The whole crowd just needs one. I'm sure there was there was times where that happened. Yeah. But again, that's what happens when you're the greatest, pretty much the greatest of all time. Is he still the same when he hits a bad shot? Like just completely like just. No, no, no. He's emotional.

He's very emotional. If he ever watched TV. Well, I've seen, I've seen videos of him saying like, come on, Tiger, like stuff like that. He's been fine before. for saying things. I've been fine before for saying things. I'll never forget. This was actually funny. 15 at Memorial, I think I won that year. It might have been the year before, whatever.

I yelled the biggest F word I've ever yelled my entire life. I mean, the guys heard it on, I was on 15T box, I heard on 18T. It must have been half a mile at least. Screamed it. I got fined. By Ralph Lauren? No, by the British tour. Definitely not Buffalo Lauer. That was not a high moment in my life.

When you're playing in the same group as Tiger, like when you played friendly before is it was it totally different walking up the fairways like was he no not just dialed completely different that don't talk to me that guys in a practice round yeah in a practice round you get a lot out of him and a tournament round it's go time but even like yourself like is that for everyone it's just go time or just some guys joke around for the most part there's a lot of guys that joke around but i would say the best players in the world yeah don't joke around we we want to kick your ass are there any guys that sorry are there any guys to talk shit out there like truthfully like

there is some talk about that yeah for sure we all have our own little things like why is this person this way or why am I this way or vice versa whatever there's always did they guys like real competitive events like chirp you a little bit

they don't chirp it's more it's more gossip yeah you're hearing about it like that they're not like nice shot like pussy or something like that no no no they don't they don't say that okay don't know never been the golf world had asked yeah no it's one of those things that

there's still level of respect there must be a lot of drama and talk, yeah. Oh, dude. Like, this guy's wife got too hammered at the fucking run a train on. Right, I bet you there is.

This has got to be a lot of golf drama. Rory's wife was slaming too many shots after fucking he won and shit. You're opening up a whole can of worms. Yeah, yeah. I'm not going to go there. Should we close the can back up?

Sorry, bad joke. And that is it for the DCMO podcast. I'm enjoying this. Honestly, it's so much fun. This is wicked. We're taking that in the comfort zone. You guys are so buttoned up with you guys.

It's so buttoned up with you guys. It's a tough. PGA is on another level of like being strict. It's like almost like you know, the game needs to continue to grow and I think what they don't realize sometimes they're starting to get a little bit better at, but not really, is you know, they want to attract a younger audience. I think they kind of

somewhat need to do a better job of that by making the game a little bit more fun. I'm 19. You got Ben, what did PGA do to your Instagram, didn't they? You were posting, that's how you got big, right, mostly, or no? No, like you did a lot of golf videos. Yeah, yeah, they're huge in the golf space. They sent me a couple letters were just like, fuck off. But now you can't

commentate on golf shit, can't you? No, then they just heavily fly. Like, I'm not, they came and uploaded. They had me all band and all that stuff which is fine i guess i mean whatever let us uh let us know what you guys think we're talking we got to do some sort of prank a golf prank or something yes yes we're trying to think of some ideas if you guys have any ideas comment them we're trying to do something you know something creative something we haven't done he's leaning more toward the savage side of things hey oh i i love it any prank you can i mean that's that's me people i think well again people don't know me enough like when i'm hanging out with my friends and whatnot we're always

joking we're always messing around some of stuff's just not not PG-13 at all, right? And I would love to be able to express it, because I think it's funny. I think it shows the finer and funner sides of life for me in general. I just wish I could talk about that more and be more like that,

which I can, but again, I respect and have a great relationship with all my sponsors, and I love them dearly. They're family to me. I don't never do anything to hurt them. That's what matters most to me, but again, I want to show people that side of me.

Well, this is a good start. I think it's pretty decent. You got a YouTube page too? Yeah, it's just Bryce and DeShambo. We'll put that link in the description. Make you guys go subscribe. Let's send some good traffic, boys. See how many subs we can put that up.

Damn, let's go. 100%. By the way, now that you came on here, because guess what, there's not a lot of guys that would come on the show because of fear of, you know, losing sponsors or whatnot. You fucking stuck it out, came out for us, did us a huge favor. We have your back, and I can't speak for the full send audience because they all fucking hate me, but I'm pretty sure.

I'm pretty sure that they have your back as well. I'm pretty sure they have your back as well. Nice. Any more questions? I'm honestly like free to go. If you got something good. Just other things outside of golf. Like what else do you enjoy doing on your own time?

Or like, is it all golf, golf, golf, golf? Ping pong. Oh, that would fuck you up. You nasty? Oh, good luck. We got a table here? Are you nasty? Yeah.

We got a table? I got a table in my house. You shoot? Guns? Well, I don't know. Your guy was just going like this to me. I don't know if he was saying. Yes.

I love. I love. I've got three guns. Oh, really? Yeah, I've got an... Where do you live? Dallas. Oh, good. By the way, that penalty, point off, you just change subjects. What do you mean?

He was talking about guns. You always give me shit for change subjects. He was talking about guns. You transitioned to fucking... Where do you live? Well, now we're really off topic, so... Sorry. I was just going to ask because he has guns. Like, I don't know. Oh, smart. Fuck. All right. You're trying to get into a gun control debate here. Please don't.

State-by-state gun laws and backfired. Cool. Yeah, so I've got a few of those. They're fun. Definitely want to learn about how to get more. I think they're fun to have and good to know how to use in certain situations, you know, if anything, just to protect yourself or whatnot. Not saying it's going to happen or anything,

but it's always good to know how to do you something. If somebody comes on your property you don't want or something like that, that's Texas, though. And then, you know, I used to game a little bit, like Fortnite and stuff. I love playing that stream for a little bit on Twitch. again, just trying to do anything and everything, Slack line. You know, slacklining is? No, no, no, what's that? You know, like tight rope walking and shit?

Yeah. Okay, that, but the thing's a little wider. It's not a wire. Are you good at it? Yeah, I walk right across and back. Did you ever do it over like a pit of out? How did I get into that? How did I get into that?

So I had a buddy of mine, sorry, I thought I was going to lay to like balance or golf or something. No, yeah, seriously. I'm serious, so like, I was trying to actually get better centeredness, if you want to say that, like, for your golf swing so you can control your golf swing a little bit better. love basketball then basketball with the net and just the hoop i feel like you don't want to switch it every time oh yeah i mean learning how to make the same motion every time repeat motion great at free throws not like shack uh but great at free throws uh bentley has been unbelievable

the super speed you guys know what the bentley super speed is no no no the car's guy um you're not a car's guy no like i don't know too much about the fucking those things a beast i used to have that for uh a little bit and they switch it out every 5 000 miles from me they go sell the car so it's like a VIP service it's unbelievable yeah free car every day brand new not every 5,000 miles yeah every 5,000 miles which is awesome so bentley's been unbelievable with me and I've got to design four or five cars now which is really you've got any extras uh no I have to give them back and then they sell them because we always usually give something to the full said audience from every guest we could we could work on something by the way I think we could actually do something talk to the big man

okay okay I can talk to my guys there or Steve will do it just buy seven of them for I was wondering if he was going to be here. Steve's like, Bentley, I'll give you 15 Maserati's in a Lamborghini. It's like, Jesus. Oh, God. He's a, he's a, something else. Some special, right?

Yeah. He's the man. Steve's the man. How much weight did you gain? You gained it. So I gained, I gained about 35 pounds. I was like 205 coming out. And then I went to 240 and about a year and a half,

which was, it was not on muscle. It was definitely a little bit of fat. Then I trimmed down back to 225. I did, like, an extended bulk period. Yeah, you were fat for, like, a little bit. I was. I looked like you. I looked like you.

Wow. Easy with the fat joke, sir. Come on, right? Wait, you look great. I'm just saying, like, I looked on TV. I'm like, fuck, Bryce is going to need the diet. Yeah, now, now that's not really that much. No, that looks good now.

That looks good. But I'm saying, but that's what happens, right? You got a bulk fat and turn into muscle. Gabe just got a half chab over there. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, watch off. He's so cute.

He's going to say, Dave's tried to bang every single one of our podcast guests. yeah yeah he's trying to go on a tear it's like fuck man all right but this Saturday what do you think should we do a match should we do a prank

I think we gotta figure something out we gotta do a match vlog yeah and then prank prank would be legendary we gotta do it oh yeah

we just gotta figure out a way to have people not know who I am that'd be so funny I mean that's the problem right you go to golf course and be like oh my gosh you know whatever

it'd be funny in a disguise though coming as too it's yeah it's tough with you guys too yeah I mean that's the problem so we'll figure something though yeah we gotta

something good though yeah 100% it won't be bad we'll think all right um one other thing i just i need to ask what's the history behind the the the hat because seeing you every time i see you it's the hat it's just the hat it's a great it's a great question like yeah it's the driver cap and everything what what got you into like that so when i was 12 or 13 yeah yeah i got a huge bag of money no i'm kidding um when i was 12 13 i was playing in this junior golf event And my favorite golfer was Ben Hogan at that time. You know who he is? I hope, do you know?

I don't know who Ben. I'm going to search him up after this. I'm going to search him up. Jesus. Oh, my God. I just got into golf. I'm really trying to. I don't want to show you right now who Ben Hogan is.

I'm going to go forward without telling you who this person is. You know what? You know what? We have Bryce in here. We should analyze Saleem Swing. That would have been great. I'll do that for the video. Yeah.

Okay, perfect. Oh, for the video. Yeah, yeah. I need to get a couple tips, too, man. This is me right here. It's good commercial. That's actually pretty solid. I mean, it's all right.

Salim's going to get really good, man. Oh, what are all these nudes over? Yeah, exactly. DPs, DPs. No, that's it. Yeah. He's like, oh, shit. He's like, did he sway it?

It's actually pretty solid. We just got to work on, like, through impact. Your backstroke and downstroke are fine. That sounded bad. Your follow through and you're finish. Everything about golf. Yeah, you can apply to talk. Without any context, sounds sexual.

It's crazy. So he's got a shot. Salim's got a shot to be good. Actually, he doesn't even finish this. I want to play, honestly, I just want to play professionally. Yeah, and now back to the top hats, yeah, the driver cap, just to finish it off. Because every time I hear Bryce, like, I just picture that. So, yeah, so Ben Hogan was a main inspiration.

And when I was 12, I had this hat that looked, every guy was wearing the same hat at this golf tournament. And I was like, I don't want to look like them. So in the pro shop, I saw that there was like a driver cap. And I, Binhoegos was my favorite player. I was like, okay, I'll just wear that hat. My dad is like, don't do it, don't do it. Don't do it. And so, what do you guys?

Sileem. I'm laughing. I don't know. He's dialed in. No, I really want to play. I know. Oh, my God, bro. At least by the time I'm like 25.

I'm still young. He's a big year. Remember we get to the back of 30? I really want to be good. I love the game. I really want to be good at the game. It's all good. I love games that are hard.

We got to change something. I love sports that are very, very hard. So, like, if I can get good at this, man, oh my God. So, like, you wouldn't, you wouldn't mess with bowling. It's not something to interest you. Bowling is pretty easy. Fuck bowling. I think pretty, bowling.

Fuck, Ralph, Lauren. All right. We good? Yeah. So the hat, real quick. Just to finish off. It took us 20 minutes. We could get a lot.

All right, the hat. Okay. So, we're all delusial at this point. I should have. I wore that cap the first time. in that tournament, even though everybody didn't, or my dad didn't want me to do it, I won my first tournament

and I was like, okay, I won my first tournament, let's wear it again. Second tournament I played in, I won that as well, I was like, shit, I got to keep wearing it. He's got to go to the bathroom. Keep quiet, keep quiet. Last thing on the hat was that when I went to SMU, that's where Payne Stewart went. I don't know if you know Payne Stewart.

No, he died in the plane crash, didn't he? He died in a plane crash in 1999. He wore the same cap. He won two U.S. opens and a PGA Championship. So he was very influential as well. It had a super silky swing. You actually might like it. I mean,

if probably have time. We got 20 more minutes, 30. Yeah. Kyle, right? Yeah. Yeah, at least 40, right for you? Yeah, we're good. If you got Payne Stewart.

Payne Stewart. P-A-Y-N-E. Stewart. I think it's pretty solid. On the longest episode, Bryson, by the way, hats off. I love it. I love it.

Yeah, that's really cool. Obviously, you know, we love golf. We, you know, I wish we could golf fucking every day, man. It's awesome. We should play more. Man, that would be the best thing ever. You guys can keep going if you want Go to the bathroom

I love that man What was your question? What's your question Gabe? All right come on It's like what are you doing tonight So we talk about We talk with Who we talk with

I think We talk with I want to ask a long question to the guy Dude What's going on here Gabe You're just trying to hit on Bryson or what You were sitting in the back of the room And he lifted up his shirt

And then you came right behind the fucking screen Well Was boring Sorry, I think I'm sorry No, I am, I'm very boring There's nothing wrong with that I'm just asking Oh, it's like, I just got interest

Cool And now I want to question I like golf, I love it I love golf Thanks for having me here Great time Thank you appreciate it I'm going to talk about this all night

Bobby It's your time to shine What we got Question It's four stout Right here Yes Number one podcast host

In all America It's coming in hot We're going for the record For the world's Longest podcast I mean do you think Do you think that we have enough stuff here. I think we did

a great job. I think we're good. But I think that the good news about this is, I don't think this is going to be our last little rodeo together. Fuck no. I think that we should all get together on the golf course. We need your help. What should we do this Saturday for real? Should we do a prank or should we do the match? Let's figure it out, though. Let's take time enough of our prank. If you guys are listening,

this Monday, Nelk, we're doing something. Golf prank, new episodes every one day, full-send podcast. Bob, you're right? That's it. I love it, it's so hard. This was dope, though. This was one of my personal favorites. This is one of my personal favorites so far. Thanks, man.

It was an honor to meet you guys and you guys have done something that's transcended just normal podcasts and interviews and things like that. I can't think you enough. So it's pretty sick.

This is something you should say that. We are all fucking rallying behind Bryson for the rest of the season. 100%. Right? Just the season? Betts are going to be locked in. The whole entire rest of his life.

Oh, thank you. There you go. We are committing to Bryce of D. No, I'm telling you guys. For me, I've always been somebody that tries to be as open-minded as possible with anything, especially when it comes to golf. That's why I've done so many things.

I've tried so many things. And with people, I try to be as open-minded as possible to see the value that they bring to life. And I think you guys bring something that's so unique and different to the world. I think that's why you guys have been so successful, man. It's awesome.

Yeah, we're just real on camera, too. That's the most important. That's sucking each other off. Let's wrap this episode up here. Let's go. All right. We'll see you guys next Wednesday.