FULL SEND PODCAST - Candace Owens x Nelk Boys | Ep. 102

Episode Date: September 15, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How's it going? How are you? Good. How long are you guys in L.A. for? One day, in and out. Kids, I have young kids. Everything I do now is like... Congrats, by the way.
Starting point is 00:00:11 Required to be in and out. You know what I mean? It's like part of my like contract stipulations because it's just like nothing that's worth me away from your kids. You know, like they're so young. Baby number three. Three. So what are you doing out here in L.A.? What just fine press tour?
Starting point is 00:00:24 We got Bill Maher a little bit later. I'm doing that whatever podcast. You're doing that? Yeah, I don't get it. Is that what's like fresh and fit? Okay. Oh my God. So it's like fresh and fit for girls.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Okay, so that one, so we're just doing. Candace should go on fresh and fit. I should go on fresh and fit. Do you watch that? No, I've only seen clips of it, but I know what it is. What do you think of it? That's the one that Andrew Tate went on, right? Yeah, like a long time ago.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I don't know. It feels like it's the moment right now, I guess. You know, like a lot of people are doing podcasts like that. Because they're pretty savage too, right? Yeah, it's like, you know, I think like the hyper masculine podcast is kind of having its moment right now. And I think it's because there were so many hyperfeminine ones for so long. So it's just like the equilibrium of things that are evening out.
Starting point is 00:01:09 But I've heard about the Precian Fifth podcast, haven't been on it or seen too much of it. But it makes sense. Do you think the hyper masculine shit's like going too far now that it's like the cool thing to do? That's what we say too. Like before you couldn't say anything on the internet. And now we're saying like now you can say what almost like whatever the fuck we want. Do you notice that? Yeah, I would say I don't think it's gone too far only because it was a very long period of just hyper feminist men can't say anything. And so I feel like over the last couple of years now men are just like, F that. Like I'm just going to say whatever I want. And so it's, I just think there's a perfect equilibrium in the world. And inevitably, if you're going to give this much energy to one side, it was going to come back. So it seems like it's louder, but it's actually kind of just evening out in my opinion. Yeah. Like Stiney with the whole streaming shit.
Starting point is 00:01:58 Yeah, I don't know if you watch, like, any of those, like, kick streamers and stuff. But, like, they're just being, like, it feels like they're, like, trying to get canceled now. Like, they're just saying, like, blatantly, like, racist shit. No, I have not. It's like, right? It's crazy. I think now because there's, like, private platforms that are paying people that, like, have no censorship. That people are just like, yo, I'm going to say whatever I want because they know it goes viral.
Starting point is 00:02:19 Which already happens, by the way. I mean, that's like, I have my little cousin. He plays, I'm so sorry, guys. I don't know nothing about video games, but it's Grand Theft Auto, right? Yeah. Yeah. And all of the, and what's the other one? That's like the war one.
Starting point is 00:02:32 I sound really ignorant right now. Call duty. I've never played any of these games. Probably called duty. I stopped at Mario Kart. But like I just remember watching my cousin. He was playing it like the stuff they were saying in the chat. It's 11 years old.
Starting point is 00:02:43 And I was like, this is actually where the free uncensored, like reading those chats, I was like, this is an 11 year old saying this. So yeah, I mean, it's always existed there. There's always been kind of this underbelly of the internet. But I feel like now people are starting to try it experiment with it on podcast because of that like, I feel like 15 year period of women just being like men can't say anything. How is it? This is going to be kid number three for you.
Starting point is 00:03:06 Kid number three, a little boy. Yeah, second boy. I have a son who's two, a girl that just turned 13 months. And yeah, this will be a boy, back to back to back, which is what I was wanted. How has it been raising kids? It's been great. You know, I think it's one of those things that I encourage all women to do. I think in certain ways, men are lost, women are lost.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Nobody really knows what they're doing in life. Like, everyone's trying to find their purpose. And I think when you become a mom, everything kind of moves perfectly into focus. And you sort of realize that, like, nothing else matters. Like, your biological instincts override. And this is the most important thing that I could possibly contribute to planet Earth, you know. So I would say that becoming a mom has moved me probably into the most confident phase of my life, which is incredible. because when you weigh that against what you're hearing in the school system, it's constantly
Starting point is 00:03:59 being told this propaganda when you're a young woman of like, don't have a family, don't start a family, you know, men too, men to, oh, wait until, you know, you're living out all your player days and we're constantly fighting against our biology. So it's interesting to see how much of a lie it is. How's the oldest one, you said? Two and a half. Are you nervous for like schooling at all? Well, no, because on me. First, I live in the South, so I live in Tennessee. So it was a little different.
Starting point is 00:04:24 I'd probably be very, very nervous if I was in Los Angeles because the state owned your kids if you live out here. But I also just know myself. And like, I'm just not ever going to accept any BS, any nonsense. Like, I say if I have to be the parent that is just, you know, I will be at that principal's office every day. Like, I'll ask my kids like, what are we wearing today? Because teachers are going to be scared shitless.
Starting point is 00:04:46 Yeah. Yeah. And I'm like, it's just like, you know, I want. Teacher interviews, you show up. They're just like, fuck. I'm like, you're going to respect me. These are my kids. I don't even like when I see those weird TikToks.
Starting point is 00:04:56 And the teachers are like, these are our kids. And we're going to teach them about all 97 generas. I'm like, these are not, wouldn't that language even start? Like, these are your students. These are our kids, you know. And so there's been that sort of brainwashing that's happening, I think, at the college level. And they think that they're going to raise your kids according to what they think or what they, what they've learned in their class, you know, in their college classrooms.
Starting point is 00:05:17 And that's just not going to happen. Yeah, I was going to say, do you think teachers have too much power? They have for too long. It's shifting too. So you're starting to see now parents showing up at these school board meetings, like what the heck's been going on, why is my child learning about this, you know, these, and I'm actually happy for these TikTok teachers out there wild with the purple blush and all the weird hair and talking about what they're teaching their students behind the parents back because
Starting point is 00:05:44 there needed to be more exposure. I think before people thought it was a bit of a boogeyman, like, you know, like a conservative boogeyman. People always want to politicize everything. And I think when it comes to kids, what's cool about it is that it's not a left-to-right issue. You know, so it's like it's actually this uniting issue where I think parents are realizing, how did we get here? And the answer is because the government kind of superseded parents and said, oh, mom, go be like
Starting point is 00:06:09 dad, go to work. You know, every mom used to be a stay-at-home mom. And then they did that poisoning of, definitely in my generation, definitely probably started before then, but just you don't want to be a stay-at-home mom. You know, men are bad. The patriarchy is telling you that you want to. to raise your kids and have children. Don't you want to climb the corporate ladder? And I talk about it with pretty much everyone. I'm just like, how are women winning right now? It sucks. Why do we want to
Starting point is 00:06:33 compete with men and also then have to go home and make dinner and raise the kids? And so it's a mess, but I think it's a mess that is being corrected right now. Just for educational purposes, what's like a guy's role when you're going through your pregnancy? What are the main things the guy does or has to do? You know, it's funny that you say that because not much. you know like there's not like you know there's the you can make the man work a little more like you could pull the pregnancy card and stuff yeah like when you want to probably you know what here's what i'll say i'll say every woman has different pregnancy for me pregnancy it's been a blessing i've had three back to back they've all been very easy um and some women exact opposite like my
Starting point is 00:07:12 sister her first kid she was basically having an allergic reaction for nine months you know what i mean like it was just like she was like one month pregnant and she looked like she was 15 months pregnant So I think everyone has different pregnancy and they need different things. For me, it's just not that difficult, like, to be pregnant. So I just, like, life kind of just goes on as it normally does. But I will say that when I'm pregnant with a boy, as I am again, I'm a lot. It was just going to sound crazy. I'm a lot more aggressive.
Starting point is 00:07:38 Like, I just, I one time chased a Latino man out of a Chick-fil-A when I was pregnant with my first son. And that, I had to look it up. They're like, yeah, when you have testosterone. Did he run? Yeah, it was crazy. Did you mess up your order? I look back up a story and I'm like, that was the craziest. Yeah, I don't care. I know, it's fine. I mean, I, it was, um, it was, um, it was, even crazier. It was, I was, I was eight months pregnant, which is like about what I am right now. And it was just when they were doing lockdowns in COVID. And I was living in D.C. at the time and I was recording the audio book. And they had just started masks. So it was very new. Nobody was used to having to bring their masks. I drove my car for a lunch break to Chick-fil-A. And I went in there and they had the six feet social distancing.
Starting point is 00:08:21 thing. And I had walked away from the car, like three blocks away from the car. I get into this chick filet. And there's this tatted up Latino dude. It's only relevant because he was tatted up. I have to mention head-toe tattoos. He's in front of me. And we got a six-view social distancing thing. And the woman behind the counter was super nice. She was like, hey, you don't have a mask on. And like, you have to wear a mask now. And I was like, oh, my gosh, I'm sorry. Like, I left you in the car. And she was like, it's okay. Like, we have extra masks. She takes out the mask thing. And He offers it to me, but she does it like he's at the register. I'm behind him. And so I went up and grabbed one. He was like, excuse me, excuse me, you need to keep your social distance.
Starting point is 00:09:01 And I was just like, what in what world does a man see a pregnant woman eight months old and says, like, don't breathe on me? Like, I just lost it. I couldn't. I'm already so disappointed in the direction that men have taken over the last couple of generations, full stop. You know, the difference between your grandfather and the men that we are producing today is just sad and pathetic. It is. It's just sad and pathetic. The concept of like, I'm a tough guy, tattered from head to toe, and this pregnant woman might have to breathe for a split second to grab a mask behind. I was like, are you kidding me? And then he said, like, F-U, B-I-T-C-H. And then I just saw red. And I, I promise you, I got my food first. I, like, waited outside. I don't know what my plan was. There was no plan.
Starting point is 00:09:46 You know what I mean? You waited for him? I was just like, I have, I am not. done. It was like door man. You know what I mean? But what am I doing? I'm eight months pregnant. I'm hobbling. You know what I mean? And he's like, F-U-B-I-T-C-H. And I said, you probably won't say it to my face because you're scared I'm going to effing breathe on you. And then he was like fumbling for his keys. And I was just like following him to his car. There was no plan. There was no plan. I don't know if I was going to take, like, follow him to work. It was just a full override of like, fight me at eight months pregnant. And then I got in the car. I remember sitting there. And I called my husband. I was like, this Latino guy. He's like,
Starting point is 00:10:18 where are you? Like, you need to come. home right now. You are just completely out of pocket right now. And I don't know what my plan was. I think I was going to follow this guy to work and beat him up. And then afterwards, I was like, that was a pregnancy little, you know, craziness. But it was definitely because I don't like seeing men act like little bitches. And when I see it like, when you see a pregnant woman trying to get mask, you should be jumping over yourself to be like, here you are. And you're going like, thank you. Absolutely. That's all I needed to hear. I feel like you just resolved a trauma. Yeah. two and a half years ago by simply saying I would have handed you the mask there was some people
Starting point is 00:10:53 that like when they told you to wear the mask like they did it in such a like power tripping way too like you could always tell like sometimes someone would be like hey like would you mind putting your mask right and you're always like all right sure like you know what I mean but some people would fucking spaz at you and they would like you know what I mean yeah it was a power trip yeah it was a power trip but this guy was just like he was just presenting such an oxymoron in the head to toe I'm a tough guy tattoos and then like god forbid a woman steps behind me to grab a mask and that is i would say probably a trigger point for me in general i just don't like when men don't act like men do what i mean the appearances what's the biggest way to like like like like you said men that act like little
Starting point is 00:11:31 bitches like they're everywhere but definitely in the way it's it's little things too like i i do a lot of this on my podcast talking about how i am the most likely to get arrested at an airport because just the behavior of men at airports i had you know if you're a girl and you're trying to get your thing in the luggage and a guy comes in faster and throws it in. What's happened? What has gone on in society that men are trying to race women through the airport, throw their bags in front of them? And I saw a guy once, I'll lecture them too.
Starting point is 00:12:00 I'm everybody's parent at the airport if they see me because I had a, like, I'll have a guy behind me and there'll be a woman by herself with three kids trying to put down a stroller and he's like, ugh, uh, and I will be like, has it ever occurred to you to offer to help her to throw it up there? Like anything, has it ever? And then they look super embarrassed and sort of ashamed that a woman has said this to them. And then I'll get in front of them and I'll be like, oh, don't worry, I'll help her. You know, things like that where I just am, I don't know what's happened over the last couple of generations,
Starting point is 00:12:28 but men don't help women. They don't offer to hold doors and things of that nature. And part of that, obviously, is because radical feminist, yeah, you know, have said, if you hold the door for me, you're implying that I'm weak. So it's not like it's just the fault of men. Do you ever fear about, like, looking like a Karen or do you think you ever overreact? I literally wear a shirt that says proud Karen to the airport. Really?
Starting point is 00:12:52 I sell them. Oh, so you go in there ready to battle. I let people know. Like, you know, it's not. The whole concept of, like, is people calling you a Karen is to make you think that what you're doing is not legitimate. Like, you shouldn't be upset about seeing something. So I tell people all the time, I'm the number one Karen at an airport. If I see something, I say something.
Starting point is 00:13:08 Something about being at the airport just gets you fired up. It's just a stressful experience. And it obviously has been further burdened. by COVID policies and all of that nonsense. So, but yeah, I think we just all have to just do better, just do better in terms of how people treat each other out in public. And it's just, what's some other like don'ts for men to do? Gosh, I don't want to give men this whole don't list.
Starting point is 00:13:33 I just just, just be a month. Well, it's a good time for us. You talk about like mask up the bags or put the bags in the. Yeah. Ask if she needs help. Like when you see a woman by yourself with three kids, I'm like, how do you not naturally want to help her? I do. And I'm just like, how can I help you? She's obviously stressed out. She's got three kids. No one's
Starting point is 00:13:51 helping her. And you're huffing and puffing because you just want to put your bag on the on the tray. It's just look around you and see how you can help someone. But I was raised by my grandfather and he was so hyper masculine in that way. He was always like, you know, when I was a little kid, he was holding doors for us and he wanted us to be little ladies and he was putting jackets on us. So when you have that example in your life and you see how men are like supposed to act and then you see how men are acting today, which I think is. is beyond horrible. You know, I'm just like... Do you think it... How so? Like, in what ways?
Starting point is 00:14:20 Every way. Every way imaginable. But I... And just to be fair, again, it's a response to the matriarchy that we're living under, which is telling men that to be a man is wrong. So I think it's hard for men to try to strike that balance. And eventually you get men that are like, well, F you, if everything I do is wrong, if I hold a door for you.
Starting point is 00:14:38 And that was a real movement where women were... We were learning in school that if a man holds a door for you, it implies that you're too weak. And I'm like, do you think it like depends on looks too? Like I would run to get the door for you probably. But if like there's somebody else, like some other people like don't think about it like that. No, I would hope not. I would hope that people would run to help a woman no matter what she looked like.
Starting point is 00:15:01 If she looked like she was struggling, I would try to help them. And I do it all the time. When I see people like I'll just stop everything and try to help them, you know. And it's just we just have really poor manners right now. And it's by the way, it's unique to America. society. It's not the same way in Europe. My husband's always shocked by how rude men are in America because they're very polite in England. Yeah. And even other parts of the world too, right? The laws are so different and stuff. Here it's, yeah, like the LGBTQ laws and
Starting point is 00:15:30 I'm from Canada. It's even crazier there. You're Canadian? I did not know you were Canadian. I'm from like just outside Toronto, Mississauga. Okay, so why are there so many Canadians like breaking into the entertainment industry? You guys have great singers. Yeah, you guys have always, yeah, I've been the rappers. Drake Bieber. Yeah. But like what's happening? It's such a bad country from a government perspective and yet it produces a lot of...
Starting point is 00:15:53 Post-COVID, it's like completely different now. Yeah. Yeah. It used to be like a lot more Canadian pride. But every time I go back there now, I feel like everyone kind of feels the same about it now, too. They're just like... Yeah, it's just like post-COVID. We're just like, ooh, it's different now.
Starting point is 00:16:06 I can't hear a trace of a Canadian accent on you. A little bit. If I'm with all my Canadian boys, it starts to come out a little more. Does it? That's what always happens. We naturally commute. I've dropped a couple of y'alls since living in the South. I've never seen y'all in my life.
Starting point is 00:16:17 Yeah. It's just because, yeah, it just naturally happens? One thing I saw that was crazy was, is it Uganda that they passed like a new legislation? Yeah, for homosexuality? Yeah. What do you think about that? I think it's great. Great.
Starting point is 00:16:31 So what, no homosexuals? No, it's not. They're interpreting a law to mean something that is. First and foremost, we say we believe in democracy. So if a bunch of people in another country democratically vote to say we don't want this in our country, we should respect it. but America is so busy spending money, literally billions of dollars per a year, trying to get obscure countries that have no issues to take on agendas, you know? And I think that I've largely changed my opinion and I've obviously talked about this a lot of my podcast where I, if you
Starting point is 00:17:00 had asked me 10 years ago, I thought it was such a harmless thing when people were talking about gay marriage and love is love and it all sounds so light. Well, that escalated quickly. Now we're talking about violating YouTube policies if you accurately gender someone, children in classrooms learning about private parts and their sexuality and kindergarten in first grade. And we were told, no, no, no, this is just about love. And obviously it's become about something else. And there is actually a sinister agenda that's going on. And I think what's happening around the world, people are seeing what's going on in America.
Starting point is 00:17:32 They're obviously following, we are America, we are the most followed country culturally. And they're going, we don't want that to happen here. You know, it's disturbing. And by the way, have you been to Africa? No. They don't, if you speak to Africans and even try to describe and what is a woman, Daily Wire, he did this. Where did Matt go? Mubash.
Starting point is 00:17:53 Yeah, outside of, he was in Kenya. And he just is speaking to, like, people in Kenya trying to explain to them transgenderism. And they just laugh at him. Yeah, of course. You're a complete nut. And they're the tribe people, the tribesmen are all laughing at him. And so this thing that we've created, like, largely in our culture is not something that people even grasp in other countries.
Starting point is 00:18:14 Why do they group trans and gay people together even? Because I feel like it's just not even like... Doesn't make any sense. It's just so weird. Why do they group it together? Because if you collectivize anything, it makes everyone think that they have to stand up for something, right? So they will turn to gay people like, well, you guys have gotten gay marriage and we've
Starting point is 00:18:32 tacked our letter on to you. So you must now defend us. And we are, and pretty soon they're going to add minor attracted people. is the new thing that they're calling pedophiles. And so the more that you collectivize, then you can guarantee yourself that you have another group of people that have to defend something,
Starting point is 00:18:48 even if you know it's largely indefensible. And I think what's happening now is maybe, well, I'm seeing a lot of it. Actually, there's a lot of gay people and lesbian people that are standing up and saying this actually has nothing to do with who I am. I might be a male and I'm attracted to other males, but I don't believe that children should be learning
Starting point is 00:19:04 about sexuality in the clash and we're picking their genders. And so, and I think they were scared to kind of come out into that before for fear of, you know, getting eaten by the beast that they helped feed. But we're seeing more and more of it that morality is kind of overriding and people are going this went a little too far too quickly. Yeah, because I saw, I don't know if you saw, but that kid in Uganda, he's like facing
Starting point is 00:19:24 the death penalty. I think it's like aggravated homosexuality. Yeah. So that sounds like honestly you and Gabe in the club on a Saturday night. That's out of homosexuality. That's crazy. But did you see the community note on it? Huh?
Starting point is 00:19:37 That was what they told you that he was for aggravated homosexuality. sexuality but that's the charge what did he do yeah he's pedophile yeah he's a pedophile like that's what you'd say like you'd probably do something gay to gave and you'd be like well he kind of like brought me on to it oh so now he's fighting his inner it's like manslaughter not for like gay okay yeah I'm trapped if we go down this road let's just keep on yeah I don't know by actually the the guy involved was a pedophile one of them raped a disabled person and they they skipped over this the news just ran with the headline new anti-gay laws but actually the people that were arrested should have been arrested did one raped a kid and the other person raped a disabled person.
Starting point is 00:20:10 Do you think it's actually happening as much as people say, like they're really talking about being gay, trans, like at the kindergarten and first grade level? Without question, especially here in Los Angeles. There's no question. I was in the gym the other day and there's this like 13 year old kid that like comes in to work out. We actually filmed it, but his parents didn't want us to post it. Like he's a fan.
Starting point is 00:20:28 So he's like, oh, I've seen the Trump interview and stuff and like that. And then I'm like, what are they teaching you in school? Or no, he said he saw one of our trans pranks that we did. Yeah, yeah. And I said, oh, like, what do they tell you in school? And he said, like, they tell us we could be any gender we want and shit. And, like, I've never actually heard that from a kid. And I was like, holy shit.
Starting point is 00:20:45 Like, yeah, those, I mean, the school board meetings that they're posting, it's, it's incredible to see what they're teaching kids. It's something that we never learned. I don't know if you did. I never learned this in school. So it's crazy how quickly the tides have changed. You know, we weren't even focused on sexuality and things of that nature. Do you think that's something that should even be talked in the school system?
Starting point is 00:21:04 No. That should just totally be handled at the house. Handle at home 100%. Teach kids arithmetic, teach them how to spell, teach them mathematics, and leave all of the emotional engineering to mom and dad. And I think it over, at least since we've been in school, I mean, I graduated high school in 2007. There's been a complete flip.
Starting point is 00:21:22 And now the schools think it's their job to sort of emotionally engineer your children. And that's really scary. Where does that come from, though? Like at what level does someone decide to start teaching that in schools? Like whose fault is that? Well, I think it's been a long process. and it was a very intentional government mission. I think the feminist...
Starting point is 00:21:39 Our government or like... Our government, the West, I would say in general, but America and Canada definitely grabbed it, grabbed the bull by the horns. It makes perfect sense. If you understand how people move towards Marxist and socialist society, essentially what they're aiming for
Starting point is 00:21:54 is full government power. And governments can never be fully powerful if families are strong. So you have to weaken the family, right? And so you can go about weakening the family in tons of different ways. The first is weakening faith, you know, making people, everyone turn into an atheist. Then you say, actually, the concept of a nuclear family, which is obviously going to be your
Starting point is 00:22:13 strongest family in marriage between a woman and a man, let's say that that's abnormal. Let's say, let's have everybody strive towards, you know, man, pregnant man married to female, I mean, whatever, you know, these headlines that you see that just make you just, your whole brain just goes, I don't even know what we're talking about anymore because that tells you that you're, you're obviously going to destructure the family entirely. At the same time, you have a push like feminism, which is saying to women, you need to compete with men, don't raise your kids. And at the same time, the government starts saying, we want to sponsor daycare. We want to pay, you know, kids six hours a day for school. Mom, you go climb the corporate ladder and be like
Starting point is 00:22:49 dad, and we're going to raise the next generation of children, which is effectively what they're done. And it's also why they keep a stranglehold on Hollywood, why people that are in Hollywood are so afraid to say they're conservative if they are, the amount of inboxes I get. I'll lose my whole career. If I say that I agree with you that we shouldn't trans kids, it's absurd. It's just absurd that your whole career could fall apart. And you sense that fear. People are afraid to even talk to people that have very normal perspectives, you know what I mean? Or just raising our kids as they were born biologically. God forbid you say that. Mario Lopez came on my podcast a couple years ago, and he said nothing and almost lost everything. I mean, he just said, you know,
Starting point is 00:23:32 for me personally, I think children should make decisions that are permanent when they become adults. I mean, he had to issue that full-throated apology, that copy and pasted one that somebody wrote in Hollywood. They all write, you know, it's like after deep reflection and consideration, I realized how my words may have harmed someone. He had to do that to save his career. And I don't blame him for doing it. I'm not even knocking him for that because he's a father and he's got tons of children but that's that is how much they care how severe it is um for them to protect that narrative and to control Hollywood because Hollywood controls minds yeah I feel like it's flipping now though I think one example is definitely the whole like bud light situation which is like an actual like business
Starting point is 00:24:09 example of how like I feel like that was that the first anti like woke cancellation ever you know what that was a big statement by society I think yeah people are done that like people are fed up right people are done and what I will say what I actually said was super disappointing about it was that that was going on and you had, you know, Dylan Mulvaney, he was taking sponsorship after sponsorship, deal after, after deal after deal from women, from biological women. And women didn't say anything because women are too soft. I mean, it's the truth. We're emotional. We're soft. And we are the people that are so easily conditioned to support foolishness, right? Then he traversed into a male space, which was beer. And men were like, okay, you can play
Starting point is 00:24:52 with my wife's Victoria. See, but we're not doing this. And it was, it was, the reaction was viral. It was insistent. And it was everything that women should have done as Dylan was in our space. But it took men to stand up and defend women and say, this is enough, you know, which I'm deeply appreciative of. You know, they really led the charge and you had Kid Rock out there and obviously Matt Walsh, the Daily Wire. And suddenly it all collapsed, you know, and then suddenly brands don't want to touch Dylan Mulvaney because they're concerned because I saw what the reaction was, but it shouldn't have taken men saying this is ridiculous. Women should have had the wherewithal to say this is actually ridiculous.
Starting point is 00:25:29 How do you think we deal with like the trans, I don't know what I'll call it situation or whatever, but like obviously there is trans people, whatever they think they are or whatever they want to do? Like what is the solution to it too? Like common sense. Listen, if you are bizarrely obsessed with your own sexual fetishes and weird things and you want to be like Sam Britton, the person who was fired that worked for Biden that was stealing the luggage and wearing women's underwear.
Starting point is 00:25:56 And did you remember that you follow that whole, the nuclear energy? I didn't see that. Bonkers, you should definitely look into it. It was Sam Britton was working for the Biden administration, wearing heels every day, lipstick. Basic, like, did you know this new thing? No. Oh, what is that? I honestly don't want to tell you.
Starting point is 00:26:12 What is it? It's so not PG-13. It's called a pup play? Yeah. So if you ever see these pride parades and they're like men that are walking like dogs and chains. Have you seen this stuff? It's really, really gnarly.
Starting point is 00:26:26 But what the reason is because they have, they have sexual objects inside of them. Yeah. That's some different type of role play. It's a fetish, it's a fetish, but now it's under the, what we're talking about, it's under the balloon of LGBTQIA into whatever. And so you have this sort of stuff that's going on. And what you want to do in the privacy of your own home? if you're not harming anybody, not really my business. But when you now have decided that
Starting point is 00:26:55 this is an agenda and everybody has to accept it and everyone has to, you know, abide by it and pretend that it's normal and pretend that if you think it's not normal for people to see this in a parade, that you're the person that's problematic. I mean, that's where I think I and pretty much every parent draws line. I think the majority of people draw the line. Have you seen that in public? Like a guy on a chain? Any pride parade. Any pride parade. Especially here, L.A. It's like extreme. LA is leading the, the freaking charge on this stuff. I mean, you see the guy's naked, naked bicycling?
Starting point is 00:27:27 No. I don't pay attention to that. Yeah, they were completely naked, bicycling, children at a parade. I'm like, if a straight person just got naked on a bicycle, and they were being cheered. Yeah. What is this? How is this not under the category of fetish? Yeah, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:27:39 Why do you want to be butt naked in front of children going down the street? It's weird that people protect it, you know, and pretend that it's normal. It's not normal. For sure. Speaking of gay, Obama. do you think he's gay 152% I followed that stuff for a year
Starting point is 00:27:58 so it's weird that it's kind of I'm glad that Tucker's kind of bringing this up but that guy was never debunked and I'm just like if you're the president of some guy comes out and says that he's been doing drugs with you and he's been having sex with you I'm assuming you've got the lawyers
Starting point is 00:28:12 that can take care of his defamation you know what I mean like this is not because he Obama's admitted to doing blow too right in college I think I don't know, but then, but now his letters have come out between his ex-girlfriends. He looks like a vacuum. And he talks about how he has all these gay fantasies and he's not debunking that either. So let me be clear.
Starting point is 00:28:28 If somebody came out and said, this is a letter that Candace wrote to me and she's, you know, talking about all of her weird sexual fantasies, I would get a lawyer in three seconds to say this isn't real. He's not doing any of that. You think you should even care? Should he care? Yeah. If it's fake, I think definitely, he has children. It's kind of pretty gnarly to think that someone's going out there and saying that you're not only a homosexual, which we mean that you're. your entire marriage is a sham and a lie,
Starting point is 00:28:50 but also that you were doing crack. I think that's pretty big, right? I mean, I would personally care no matter how old I was. I would never let somebody talk to his reputation if it wasn't true. And I was always stunned by his lack of a reaction to it. And now that he has ex-girlfriends, they're saying he would write it by his homosexual fantasies and they're producing the letters.
Starting point is 00:29:08 I mean, how are you, wouldn't you say that's not my handwriting? I didn't write it. What person would just not care? Wait, so some letters came out too? Yeah. Tell us what you know, because I haven't seen too much. He had a ex-girlfriend. I want to say it was at Harvard.
Starting point is 00:29:20 Harvard, don't quote me. But they used to just write, you know, love letters back and forth to each other. And he would write to her in detail about his homoerotic fantasies that he has about men. And then he said, you know, but I'm going to choose to live my life as a heterosexual male, like just as a kind of a business decision is what it almost sounds like. This is what I have to do. And so she doesn't know the guy who said that he was picked up in the limo. And he's been saying that story for years.
Starting point is 00:29:42 He has consistently told the same story. He has produced proof. the media has had had no interest in debunking it. It's sort of like when Hunter Biden's laptop drops, just has no interest, you know, just I'm just going to, and that's how you know, it's true. Because of course, if this was actually a fake laptop and doctored photos, somebody would be getting sued. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:30:00 You can't just put out fake doctored images and fake letters about me. And I'm just going to be like, I'm just going to stay quiet because it is what it is. It's not, you know, that's pretty serious. When did those letters come out? Like recently? That was in the last month. They've been out before, but they had redacted some of them. and then she sort of came out and did an interview about it.
Starting point is 00:30:18 And she's not the only one. I mean, these rumors have been following him for years. And I think Tucker kind of just recently unearthed it. The original guy who has not moved to story at all about, you know, him going and getting him crack cocaine when he was a senator and then performing fallacious on Barack Obama. I mean, would you just take these rumors sitting down if it didn't happen? It's a play devil's advocate, though. Like if someone don't like the conservatives and stuff get pissed.
Starting point is 00:30:45 someone does that to Trump or like just like does this guy really have any credibility or like like a random guy saying he came out and he wasn't random he had like receipts from his credit card said exactly which hotel they were at in Chicago so there's a lot of proof to it yeah and at the time he did a press conference and any media member could have debunked it you know what I mean you would go through and say this is actually completely ridiculous this is not what happened instead they did the thing that they always do which was they problematize the man obviously the man admit he was doing crack you know and they were like well he's also you know spent time in prison for credit card fraud was up to do anything he's telling you that he hooked up with Barack Obama and
Starting point is 00:31:24 had gay orgies and now you have a woman who knows him who is saying that he's written about his homosexual fantasies and it just all adds up to me I just I don't know any person who would just take that sitting down and wouldn't just say this or at least a statement I this is completely I'm not even going to address this it's so ridiculous and beyond reason he's never said anything about it. So does it matter that Barack Obama's? So was he the first gay president and black president? He was the first gay and black president. It looks like that's a pretty big achievement, which is really big a treatment. Yeah. Which I think that's something we bring us all together. Did you like Obama or no? Well, I was a lib when Obama got elected. I wasn't, I didn't
Starting point is 00:32:00 vote for him. I didn't vote. The first time I ever voted was for a Republican president. I wasn't engaged in politics, I would say. But you could not, I feel like as a black person in America, the promise of the first black president. And by the way, as a white person too, I think, I think everyone was sort of hit with this feeling of, yay, we have finally getting over the sins of our past America. And I remember crying when he won, the night that he won in 2008. I mean, I was in freshman year of college, but I was sitting there just watching the news. People were running into the streets and celebrating. Yeah, like, as a guy, he's a man.
Starting point is 00:32:39 Like, Obama's the man. I don't care if he's gay. He's super relatable, too. It's totally cool if Obama's gay. It's totally cool. It's fine. What's up with all the liberals and like blow? And what?
Starting point is 00:32:48 Like Barack Obama and at the White House, they're finding blow like, I didn't know they got down like that. How amazing is that? I did. I did. Are you kidding me? It's, I mean, 100 Biden's laptop kind of gave everything away, I think. But it's just incredible that they're going with. We can't figure out who brought the blow in.
Starting point is 00:33:02 I think that's amazing. I almost have to respect it. It's definitely not the first time, though. It's just someone, the first time someone got caught. It's the most surveilled building in the world. You can't go one inch into there without, you're going to tell me. And I know exactly where they found it. It's just incredible to believe that they're actually going to run with.
Starting point is 00:33:18 We just couldn't figure out who put the blow in there. That's how you know it's someone high up because they would have thrown an intern in the bus in four seconds. You know, they would have thrown, it's got to be someone in the first family, you know. Back to Obama. Green Jean-Pierre or someone, you know, someone really in it. People say that Obama's still like pulling the strings with like Biden. Do you think that is going on?
Starting point is 00:33:38 I've actually heard Susan Rice from some people that I know that are still working with the administration that Susan Rice is. pulling the strings. But I don't know. That would be full. I have no proof of anything. So it would be fully dabbling in conspiracy theory. But I think what we can all agree on that's not conspiracy theory is that Biden is not running the show for sure. He is not, he can't, he can barely walk right now. I mean, he's got all the early signs of dementia. And it's actually sad to watch because I lost my grandfather a couple of years ago to dementia. And I almost don't want to make fun of it. But it's so evil, I think. I can't imagine Jill Biden, Jill Biden allowing her husband
Starting point is 00:34:13 to suffer that publicly with cameras, all for power. I mean, you can see it in his gait in the way that he walks and his forgetfulness and the lashing out, something that my grandfather started to do because when they come back into their memory, they're like kind of angry that they don't remember or that somebody wasn't listening to them. And he's showing all the clinical signs of not even early dementia, I would say. He's like, he's in dementia. And everyone's just pretending that he's not, which the media is just, whatever.
Starting point is 00:34:41 Yeah. Just having another gaffe. You said you were a freshman in college when you were a liberal? Yeah, I was a liberal all through college. When did you make the switch? After university with Trump, which was crazy. I didn't want Trump to win. I was like absolutely not crazy.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Maybe Bernie. I remember a bird landed somewhere on Bernie Sanders. And I was like, cool. I wasn't engaged politically at all. And it was just weird because I didn't want Trump to win because I thought he was the guy who says you're fired. And it just didn't make sense to go from like Barack Obama to freaking you fired. So it was a very innocent reason for not wanting him to win. And then I thought it was amazing that like everyone suddenly said he was like a racist,
Starting point is 00:35:23 a sexist, incestuous. They went so hard that it made me go, okay, what's up here? Because that's the guy that was at P. Diddy parties. Everybody liked him. He was in the hip-hop music I listened to. So you're not going to tell me that you just missed the idea. You just totally missed that he was Adolf Hitler for the last 20 years. He's been in the public eye.
Starting point is 00:35:40 and so I just decided to listen to one of his speeches and I heard what he said and he had pitched directly to Black America and he like went through all the stats of how Black America was suffering and then he turned to the camera he was in Dimmendale Michigan and then he said you know
Starting point is 00:35:54 this is the poverty rape blah blah whatever it was and then he said Black America I'm just saying you've given your vote to them for the last 60 years what do you have to lose take a chance do something different and I was like pretty good elevator pitch like nothing wild
Starting point is 00:36:07 and then the media tried to flip it the media that I trusted tried to flip it and say that he was looking black America in the eye and tongue and they were poor. Don Lemon was like fake crying. The whole thing was weird. And it actually just piqued my interest of how many times do they say that he said something that he didn't say? How many times I actually happened to catch that speech? And then it kind of became this whole, you know, journey into realizing that the media just lies and black America is usually at the nucleus of the lies, you know, because I think they largely view us as irrational and emotional, and they know that if you dangle the little racism carrot, that black people
Starting point is 00:36:41 will just be like, oh, they're like, oh, look, it's racist, and the black, go, ah, and kind of do the bidding for the media without further thought. So, you know, it was, I'm making it sound like it was a very easy process, but I went through, I definitely went through a period of almost two years of cognitive dissonance, thinking that was crazy, because you believe something your whole life. Yeah. And then just like that, you realize it's not true. Like, I genuinely believe Republicans were racist. I genuinely believed that they wanted to send black Americans back, the South was racist. So, and then suddenly I think the opposite, how do you even talk to like your sister? I haven't even explained this to your sister. I have two sisters and a brother. How do you
Starting point is 00:37:18 talk to your friends when your whole circle is vibing one way? And suddenly you're seeing something different. It's very hard to go through. You think that's the biggest reason why people don't, like, even like, yeah, the racism topic or like some people just, how can they're not racism? Like, is it because they don't want to accept like their whole life is kind of like a lie or like what they've been taught? Well, the thing is is there is racism, right? Obviously. I mean, we see racism against white people, racism. For sure. It's everywhere. But it's not a systemic issue that's stopping Black America. That whole narrative that like Black people can't get ahead because of racism is complete and utter garbage. Actually, one of the biggest reasons black people can't
Starting point is 00:37:54 get ahead is because they've been fighting the boogeyman of racism because they have the media and the government wants to have a permanent underclass. You have to have this permanent underclass of slaves, you know, and you see this in Marxist societies. You want to keep people warring. You never want people to come together because once you come together, you're sort of looking at the government. You're not looking at each other or hating each other. So, yeah, I think for some people, it's, they don't have the humility to admit they're wrong. And I'm grateful to God that I had the humility to admit I was wrong. Some people just go further into their ignorance. That's when they get the whole, delete me if you voted for Trump. If you can't see this or
Starting point is 00:38:32 if you have one bad thing to say about George Floyd, we're not friends. I mean, full people that have been friends for 30 years, watch their friendships fall apart over George Floyd. That's wild. Like the internet, that shows you how much power the media has over people's money. How are you going to try to convince your homie, you've been friends, say you're white and black, you've been friends for 30 years. The media just presses a button and people legit never talk to other ever again. Yeah. Well, it's all recently too, though, that Trump's starting to gain a lot more support from black america so why do you think that is the first thing i'll say is it's more amongst black men which does not surprise me because a lot of black men follow my
Starting point is 00:39:11 stuff a lot of black men do like podcast talking about like stuff that i say black men are way more receptive to it because i think they um they're guided a little bit more by just common sense you know what i mean and they're not going to be as well they're men also they're not going to be as emotional that's the truth too there are different attributes women are more emotional than men so i've seen that even in my own work is that like a lot there's so many YouTubers that like talk about stuff that I do and watch what I do and react and the black women have been really not receptive to it which is really interesting to see um obviously the the mugshot backfired that was the black if you've not seen black responses on ticot to trump's mugshot and you just want
Starting point is 00:39:48 to laugh they love that they are hilarious it's the funniest things yeah i did a whole segment in my show and it was just it was amazing um but yeah i think at the end of the day somebody he speaks like a blue collar worker even if he's never been a blue collar worker even if he's never been a blue collar worker when you're around him he's he's really warm i mean you guys have met him he's you can't describe it he's got the thing um and it's not just because he knows how to make people feel good yeah he does he he's very and i try to say to people i'm like his when you're around him his aura is very it's blue collar it's relatable he's funny he's telling jokes he doesn't feel like he's this big unattainable person and that's hard to to strive that that's hard to accomplish rather that's a
Starting point is 00:40:28 that's a difficult note to strike and he does it over and over again and people love him for that what's your predictions for 2024 then do you think that he can win or i think it's going to be interesting so there's no point you think he gets the nominee first of all i think he probably will end up with the nominee yeah if i'm making a prediction today anything can happen though debates are a big thing um and i definitely never thought ronness had a chance i said from the very beginning he has no chance because he doesn't have the it factor that we're talking about it's exact opposite when you're around him like i've been around him and it's like he's like he feels like he thinks you're stupid and he's better than you and sort of like you know you don't
Starting point is 00:41:03 really know what he actually thinks and you in and so he didn't have the it factor and people were really angry at me for saying that but I called it from the beginning I was like DeSantis just doesn't have the juice you know so who would win then besides the he electable though is Trump even electable with like everything going on I don't know I mean I've I have veered away from political prognostications because you know there's things to even talk about in terms of all the finicky stuff that happened with our election and COVID and policies that have changed in mail-in ballots. And it just gets depressing to talk about. So I just say, you know, who I like in candidates, who I think will go far. I mean, I called Vivek going over
Starting point is 00:41:43 the Ronisantis from Vivek was pulling at 1%. And he's very interesting and he's very hopeful. He's not mudslinging, which is nice. He's like an excitable academic. You know what I mean? So I was, I just wanted to have everyone on my podcast too. And when I spoke to him, I was like, You're interesting. I know you're pulling at 1%, but you're going to go, you're going to go past DeSanis than he did. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:03 He's already polling past him? Yeah. Holy shit. Just after that one debate. Almost before it, they were neck and neck heading into the debate. And I knew that that was going to happen. And Vivek has no,
Starting point is 00:42:12 none of the money behind him. And Sanis has all the money behind him. And it just his campaign's message was just kind of like, we're better than Trump, but that we're also going to mudsling and beat Trump to Santis. And Vivek kind of stayed out of the fray and kind of quietly, you know, was like the turtle in the race.
Starting point is 00:42:27 And so he's been very exciting to watch. And so I feel more like a sports commentator where I'm enjoying the sport more, you know? It's just fun to watch. It's fun to watch now. And it makes it better when you're not as emotionally invested in a lot of different ways. And I even like RFK. I think he's like him talking about the vaccine stuff is super cool. Have you ever considered running?
Starting point is 00:42:48 No, not right now. I'm running out for toddlers. So I got to be a mom first. But right now, no, in my life. Not the place. I saw it. You did a, the podcast you did with Andrew Tate was like one of the most entertaining greatest podcasts ever. Yeah, how was that? It was great. So you went to, you obviously went to Bucharest, yeah. I went there July, yeah. It's like, wow, pretty recently now I'm thinking
Starting point is 00:43:13 about it. It was freaking hot. What did you think of him overall? So I knew Andrew. My husband, I had met him one time before prior to that, which is crazy because he wasn't this huge. Well, he was big in the UK, but he wasn't big in America. And he's just gone way more international now. It's amazing to see. And I knew going into it that we were going to have a good conversation because I'm not one of these people that ever wants to sit someone down for a gotcha interview. I was fascinated by Andrew Tate because of the power that he's acquired. You know, this is a person who's being banned in UK schools, right? Because kids are going like, their teachers are brokies, like, what color is your Bugatti? That's funny. Like, you know what I mean? Like, that's
Starting point is 00:43:54 funny to think of middle school kids, like calling their teachers brokies and asking them what color their Bugatti's are. And I have a good sense of humor about that. I think little boys are funny. It's harmless, whatever. But I was genuinely fascinated by what he had built from himself coming from nothing. And that's always for me where I'm going to level the playing field because I knew that we had that in common. And so there was a natural amount of respect in the room to even start a conversation, you know, where I think everyone else goes in there and they're trying to attack him and, you know, people are trying to, you know, that people are angry at the fact that there's this masculine moment that's rising and they want to blame Andrew
Starting point is 00:44:28 Tate on it and they don't want to actually examine how we got here, which is, you know, the Lena Dunham's of the world. And so it was, it was great. And I wanted to wait too. I wanted, I knew in the beginning he was going to, you know, be more of the Andrew Tate. I always say like Andrew Tate the character because I'm friends with so many like MMA fighters. And they all have like the character that's in the ring and they need that that character because that, I mean, you're going in to try to kill someone, right? Right. But then when you peel behind it, they are really interesting people, like very interesting,
Starting point is 00:45:02 level-headed, well-thought-out. People think that they're stupid and they're not. And so I wanted to see that side of Andrew. And I got it, you know, and I think people saw a different side of him and learned more about him. And so I was, you know, I felt it was great and people were mad at me. Do you think he's like the right representation of what a man should try and be like? I think Andrew is in the middle of a transition. Definitely.
Starting point is 00:45:25 That is how I've read him. I think Andrew was kind of doing whatever. He was young on the internet, saying whatever. And now a lot of that stuff is trying to come back to haunt him, but he's just like, doesn't care. And you can see, and that's why I said to him in the interview, I said, you know, you've got a lot of power now. And you do have to make a pivot because when people are hanging, when these young kids in particular, these middle schoolers that love his every word, are hanging on your every word. And you know why, because he understands why, because they come from. fatherless backgrounds and they're looking for that paternity elsewhere and you become this
Starting point is 00:45:57 cultural figure and so with great power becomes great responsibility and I've seen him making that transition and I've tried to communicate that to people who don't understand that they are just so he wasn't perfect when he arrived why wasn't he you know a perfect Christian conservative because he didn't have the opportunities you had in life and he did pretty darn good for himself so let's give him a runway to really do some good and I think he's trying he's doing that right now he just he's chilled out on like the girls topics a lot and like at the beginning you could I could tell he was the sum of the shit he was saying he was just completely trolling yeah like he was like a very serious stand-up comedian but like some people took it seriously obviously
Starting point is 00:46:35 obvious the internet but I could like anyone that found him funny knew like he's not going to take 100% of his girlfriend's only fans like right when we went to his house they're only fans girls there and it's like he's not taking 100% like you could tell he's trolling yeah and then someone finds it and makes it serious and and people were doing this over and overground. I was like, this is weird. Like he was so obviously trolling. And I swear a bunch of conservatives took it seriously. He was like, listen, listen to me. If, you know, if Hulk Hogan had a vagina, you know, or Megan Fox had a penis. Yeah. Who would you sleep with? And then conservatives were like, he's pushing the trans. And I'm like, this is the most obvious, like, troll meant to be
Starting point is 00:47:13 hilarious for a 13 year old to watch. Like, he just said Hulk Hogan with a vagina. The fact what you're trying to make this a serious, like, I don't think I could answer that one either. That's a really tough decision right and then people were trying to make it so serious and so sometimes the humor gets lost and i think that he because of what he's going what's going on in romania people just you know they see somebody drowning and they want to step on their heads there's something sadistic about it but i see it happen over where do you think his charge comes from like what's the conspiracy behind i did a whole deep dive on it you should watch it yeah it was really interesting it stems from because i wanted to understand the case because i you know if he was actually
Starting point is 00:47:52 human sex trafficking people from over from America that's kind of important for me to distance myself from that and so I looked into his case and what happened when the police raided the story is wild I mean it all boils down to a girl who's you know has said that multiple men have sex trafficked her like you know one of these women that she was like a orphan from Kazakhstan who got adopted in America and was a sex worker before she ever met Andrew and it's a really fascinating story and people should at least know the facts of the case before they try to condemn him my instincts after looking into it is that he's going to very much get off in romania and people are going to be very shocked because they don't even know what the case is about because they just people
Starting point is 00:48:35 have just been pulling up old videos of him and saying that like yeah so we'll watch that daily wire yeah if you look up i think it just looks up kansas islands andrew tate i think i've only done a couple of episodes talking about it and after i come back from mania i was like i really want to understand the case and I just gave people the facts and how do you feel about like only fans the overall thing about how girls are just making so much money and it's it's almost something like girls would rather just be an only fan's girl than do anything else yeah prostitution is the oldest trade in the book you know what I mean I mean that's what's happening we everyone's becoming a sex worker how do I feel about it I think it's it's it's really gross and we'll have a lot of regrets and a lot of women that
Starting point is 00:49:13 you see who are these aren't happily married women with kids you know and so of course you're selling yourself and at the end of the day people make trades and some people are willing to trade the rest of their life for momentary financial relief and this kind of gets gets into people not realizing that it will inevitably come back to haunt you i think you're seeing that right now and this is a i actually feel really bad for her but it's an example of what i'm talking about the whole logan paul nina agdall dylan danis thing that's going on what do you think of that pretty funny why are you smirking it's funny well Well, I think everyone thinks, I mean, I feel bad for her, though.
Starting point is 00:49:52 Like, I do. I definitely actually feel bad for her. I do. Why do you think not that many women are coming to her aid or trying to stand up for her? Well, what do you mean? I think, first off, she's in a world right now that you're in the UFC fight, you know, fight world. That's a whole different. That's what I was saying just now, like Andrew, a whole different level of troll.
Starting point is 00:50:09 People that don't understand that world, which I very much do because I love Dana White. I love MMA fighters. A lot of these people are my friends. I get that how they're going to troll, you know? So I think she's like Alice in Wonderland right now. And Logan is actually a very hated character. You know, he's hated for a lot of reasons, a lot that there's nothing to do with what he does in the ring or, but more to do with talking, you know, like he came after
Starting point is 00:50:33 me on his podcast once, you know? And so the problem isn't that people don't want to defend her. They don't want to defend him because he's flip-flopped. He's turned against his friends. He's turned against his brother. Jake is cool, by the way, actually. Really like Jake. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:45 Logan is like very like buried underneath it all I hate to say this but he there's a lot of bitch behavior you know like when he called me out on his podcast you ever see that thing where he was like full on acting he's talked shit about what did he say about you two did you see I can't remember what he said about you I think he's got to throw on the clip when you guys edit this of like when he was like it's like he does things what he knows he has to he wants to basically placate the left and the right you get what I'm saying at different moments and so when he was placating the left, he was suddenly like, white privilege is real. If you are white, you are privileged. And I have finally found the moment where I have realized this. And then his little homeboy to the left
Starting point is 00:51:25 starts taking shots at me because I don't support Black Lives Matter, which is just wild to have two white men. I don't know. The whole thing was just wild. So I, you know, said something on Twitter. And then he like privately wanted to be like, oh, like, no, I'd love to have you on the show. And we can talk about it. I'm like, I said right when I sent things, he's never going to have me on a show. Because that was all about showing the left that he was whatever. And he was whatever and he's not about that life because if he meaningfully said that and thought it was real like you know that I'm this big bad person who doesn't support BLM why are you doing it in a room filled with a bunch of white guys have me on to talk about what I actually think you guys had me on
Starting point is 00:51:56 you know some people agree some people don't agree but at least have the conversation if you're saying what you say meaningfully didn't do that and then kept pushing it like oh yeah no definitely going to have you on then I hear nothing from him and then privately when all the Kanye stuff starts happening he's like hey do you can you get you and Kanye come on my show and I said to him privately on Twitter. I was like, oh, so you weren't available this whole time for the last two years. Yeah. He was, so you know what I mean? He's all about getting the clicks. And so that's not, that's bitch behavior. You know what I mean? Like, I don't mind having a disagreement with you, but you better believe what you believe. And I don't think anybody knows what he believes,
Starting point is 00:52:30 but we know what I mean? Like, Jake is much more like he's not trying to just say stuff to stay relevant. And he will, he will say whatever he has to say to please the YouTube gods, to please the left. And I, I think that that's not a, did you see that dylan danis has like a secret photo listen dylan danais has been going hard like i mean it is absurd i am i feel bad for you know i want to say this and i think she's like you know probably she's just in all right any girl to have to go through that that's but but it is absurd how many different photos there are of just even like old men like and like you know what i'm saying like decaprio like that's dope like yeah i mean that i don't think that's a bad thing that's he might
Starting point is 00:53:13 as well owned the capp now great but i wanted to say are you ever like so you saw the video about like the sausage she's talking about how she needs that yeah it does i think it did over 200 million views on twitter have you ever like he got 2 billion in like 40 are you ever like how the fuck like how are so many people tuned into this um you mean like why are there some people that are watching it i think it's because he just went so hard over and over again but there is a lesson to be learned in what's happened to her too it's you know she looks pretty young when she's saying all And I think that women experiment with feminism and, you know, like we're talking about, sex sells and everyone says it and they think it's cool and it's relevant.
Starting point is 00:53:51 But at the end of the day, and this kind of gets into what Andrew Tate and I were talking about, like, men don't want that, right? So you can do that. You can make money. You can become a model. You can, you know, be invited to all the cool parties. But when men have to actually think about who they want to be the mother of their children, who they want to bring home to mom, and you have an internet, you know, videos.
Starting point is 00:54:13 you talking about how much you want cock, it's just not going to play well, you know. And what it does is it, I think it hits at something in a man's biology, like men want to know that a woman is theirs, you know what I mean? For sure. And then when you see, okay, she was this person's and this person's and this person was paying the sub to watch her be half naked. And so women have to think long term about what they actually want because if what you want in the short term is to make some money, there's plenty of ways to do it, you know,
Starting point is 00:54:41 become another influencer. Instagram model, you know, but all these women are going to suffer from it. I mean, Kim Kardashian, you've got Emily Rajakowski. Emily Rajkowski, there's, find me the man that is going to marry her. And what happened when she did get married? She got cheated on. But who's at fault there? Because is it, are the guys at fault because they give them all the attention
Starting point is 00:55:00 or the girls at fault because they're like, yo, this is so easy. I can just post a picture of my ass, make this money. It's all trades, you know? That's what I'm saying. You're trading your present for your future. And then I think when those women get older and suddenly now they're not the hottest girls. you're not getting hotter as you age as a woman, right? You know, there's always going to be a younger 18, 19, 20 year olds on TikTok doing the
Starting point is 00:55:21 exact same thing, making the exact same money and the men are going to so looking at them naturally, you know. And so now you're washed up, you know, and the ass picks aren't ass picking. When is it appropriate to, if I'm in a relationship, when is it appropriate to ask how many people you've slept with before me? You can ask whenever you want. You think that's a first day type thing or you got to wait? because he definitely is like probably like surprise too right i don't think i think there's no way he's
Starting point is 00:55:48 seen everything no no way no way he had i mean the videos startled me i followed her for fitness because i'm super into fitness oh you already followed her yeah i like i like me to ag doll i've liked her for i mean i got very into fitness over the last i've always been to fitness like very into it over the last i would say six years and she's you know she's i think she's very pretty i know that now everyone's saying she's not pretty but i thought she was absolutely beautiful and she was into fitness so she started this thing called the Agdal method. And so I, I liked her for fitness. Like, oh, great.
Starting point is 00:56:16 She's like a young girl, probably going to get married into fitness. I had no idea about all of this other stuff. I knew she dated Leonardo DiCaprio for one year, but I think that's like the Hollywood right of passage at this point. Yeah, who hasn't right. Yeah, exactly. I think everybody has done that. And, but other than that, I actually didn't know anything.
Starting point is 00:56:32 So Dylan Dana's digging this up. I mean, she's now. Book Club on Monday. Jim on Tuesday. Date night on Wednesday. Out on the town on Thursday. Quiet night in on Friday. It's good to have a routine.
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Starting point is 00:57:07 And she's suing him because she's saying that it's caused her actual damage to her career you think there's a case there she could probably prove that too like there's definitely some trauma going on yeah so i don't know it's all i can say is it escalated very quickly but there is a lesson buried in you know in it for women you know what do you think the biggest takeaway for a woman is there is just realizing that you know that cute cutsy-bootsie freedom sex i want to talk about cock on the internet and all that stuff might be serving you in your early 20s she looks like she's in her early 20s, you know, maybe even younger in some of those videos. And it's coming back to haunt her really badly. And unfortunately, it's making her, I think, to other men seem like damaged goods. It's because
Starting point is 00:57:51 it's not what men want. And so you're not ever going to be able to have a social movement, right? Like feminism that's going to trump biological instinct. And men want something that feels proprietary to them. Men like the chase. They like the mystery of women. They like wondering, you know, what she's like. And women are just putting it out there now where like, I feel like, say to my friends. I'm like, I feel like I've had sex with Emily Rachalke. She's been naked so much on my phone. Like Emily's naked here. I'm like, we've all sup with her. So how could any man reasonably want to say I want to marry? Why do you like to go at Emily so much? Because she's so naked. She's like her whole brand has she has done nudity in a way. What about girls that like,
Starting point is 00:58:28 and I'm just playing devil's app kit, but what about girls that just say like it's my body? Like if I'm okay with it. Fine. Fine. But look at how many careers that's made for women. Fine. You made it for Kim. She's a billionaire. She is. And she's also. on her fourth marriage, and Emily's on, has just finished her first one. So like I say, I say to women, it's trades. You know what I mean? And what's going to happen now? Are they getting younger?
Starting point is 00:58:49 Are they getting hotter? Do you believe in the Kardashian, like, theory that they kind of drive guys crazy? We'll see what happens to Travis Barker. Because he seems pretty chill. So if he just, if something wild happens to Travis Barker, I'm going to be like fully invested in the Kardashian curse. Yeah. Have you been in touch with Kanye recently at all?
Starting point is 00:59:08 I do not publicly speak about my relationship with Kanye because of everything that happened at the end of last year. And for whatever reason, as soon as the public hears that me and Kanye speak, it becomes this like obsession with trying to, you know, get involved in it. And I mean, yeah, he is happily dating someone else in other than Kim in Italy. And there still seems to be this kind of media obsession with him despite them saying go away. he went away, and they still won't leave the man alone. So I just don't know what the media wants from Kanye, but it is, yeah. You think that's a negative? Like, it seems like it's becoming a huge problem, but all these power couples that put their entire relationship for everybody, like that's never going to end well, right? Yeah, I agree. I agree. And I think when you're
Starting point is 00:59:57 him, it doesn't matter who you date now. Yeah. He's just his star is so great. Did you see him in Italy on the boat? I did. And you know what's interesting? You could say on the one of the Oh my God, this is so inappropriate, and it's awful, but, like, we don't know how that lens was. Yeah. These paparazzi lenses, you don't, I mean. You see that photo, Kyle? It was crazy. At least it wasn't like a pup or whatever, pup lay.
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah. You can't get caught doing that. You can't get caught doing that. That was wild. Yeah, but there has been every time you open, I open the news, it's like following Kanye and Bianca, if Kanye and Bianca, the media, and they wrote a whole letter saying, go away, Kanye. He's literally in Italy. How do you think we can change that or then make a shift where you're not always, like you said,
Starting point is 01:00:34 opening your phone and all these guys are just so attracted and just obsessed with seeing women all over social media like is that ever going to change? I mean as a guy no offense if it's there we're going to look like it's not possible to know yeah I think that hits at a bigger problem and I've been doing a lot of work on my podcast and it's been really shocking to see
Starting point is 01:00:50 how many men write it and talk about like porn addiction and they keep saying that no man like not many men will talk about it and it's something that so many men are struggling from and like my husband doesn't have any social media because he said to me which I didn't even think about it he's like it's all pornography and I'm so conscious of it now but when he said it at the time I didn't even that's what
Starting point is 01:01:09 I'm talking about so you turn on Instagram and just butt cheeks like you just got Kim Kardashian full frontal like a tiny little sliver covering her crotch area he sends me all the time DM's like different chick it's crazy I do and so and men are biologically wired to respond to that so once upon time it was already difficult when men had these pornography magazines but they had to like go through effort to get the magazine and slide it in between their mattress and things of that nature. Now it's just freely available at all times. And I don't think that there's enough men talking about what that does to men and how men are suffering from this overly pornographic society where, I mean, we're even desensitized to ads. I mean, you look at a Gucci bag. The woman's
Starting point is 01:01:50 running in the ad like when she's butt naked. Why is she had to be butt naked for you to sell this purse? And so I have had to check myself and realize how desensitize I have become to what is blatantly soft-core porn everywhere in our society. And then thinking about how I think it renders men weaker, you know, men that are suffering from like, you know, can't stop masturbating all day and things of that nature. No one wants to talk about it. They want to pretend that's not happening. And we're facing a full-on epidemic.
Starting point is 01:02:15 Do you want to talk about it? Me? Yeah, your problems. I don't masturbate all that. Over. If you're all over it's bad, I don't know what a porn addiction is, but. That's sad. You got to start a podcast.
Starting point is 01:02:23 About what? The porn addiction? Yeah, there's so many. Yeah, because everyone talks about that. Yeah. It's telling you, men are men that write in are like, I'm, Thank you for talking about this. Like, I've suffered from this.
Starting point is 01:02:31 But like porn all day long? Yeah. Like not on the hub, social media. I'm not going to lie. I didn't like respond in the comments on YouTube like, hey, how many times are you masturbating per day? But the general sentiment that I got was that men are really suffering from it. You know, and like they like don't know how to.
Starting point is 01:02:47 Andrew Tate does some work in the space. He's talked about pornography a lot. And I think that's also part of the reason that there's a lot of people that follow him. And, you know, it's just temptation everywhere at all times. The Instagram is definitely crazy. though. I mean, yeah, if you're in a relationship, you're opening your Instagram, you're always seeing something different, like right in your face something maybe better, something different. Yeah. And it, yeah, it is, it makes it tough to kind of focus on one thing. Yeah. But it's also like I know a girl, for instance, 20 years old makes 500K a month doing this stuff. Lives in an apartment that people would dream to live in and you're just sitting there like, how is this reality? You sound in love over there. I mean, kind of. Like, for me, for me, Me, like it'd be cool to date her because I don't have it like that. That's hitting at the addiction because you know what's happening is who's funding that,
Starting point is 01:03:36 men that don't even have the money to keep paying. So why don't men get more of the pressure then because they're the ones supporting this? Like, they're the ones paying that money. It's both. It is both sides of it. They're paying that money. They don't even have the money. You've got some weird kid in his mom's basement that's, you know, keeps upgrading to see more and more and more of her
Starting point is 01:03:51 because he's developing like a love for this woman that he can't have. And it's never going to be enough because she's on a screen. Do you know what I mean? but it's not like the it's not the super wealthy people that are funding her it's the dollars that are coming in and people that can barely afford it because they're addicted yeah you you'd probably crush on there and what only fans no no you'd make 20 million a year probably i would teach history yeah yeah um Jesus what was that too much no it's true i would teach history and i'd make 20 million a month what do you think because you always talk about like men lacking masculine like masculinity features or
Starting point is 01:04:25 whatever. What do you think women now need to change or what like are the biggest thing? I would love to see women enjoy their faces once again. They're all looking exactly the same. It's like they've all gone into the doctor and said give me this look. And actually what's funny is that with the rise of transgenderism, I don't know how guys are sure anymore. Like because these trans, I don't know we just call it trans women look now like the Hollywood girls. They're all getting the same like the buckle, bucle fat removal. I don't even know what it's called so that they have this and the lips and Now everyone looks exactly the same. And I'm like, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:04:57 I feel like women should stop getting Botox when they're 25. What about should we ban BBLs? That's the most dangerous surgery you can possibly get. That's the most insane surgery that women are getting, dying on the table left and right because they don't know if the vein runs, where it runs through in your butt. So if they hit it, you die. It's incredible how many women die a year.
Starting point is 01:05:16 It's by far the most dangerous surgery. That's another one women are getting all the time. And what's sad is that it's such a quick fix. of course that stuff's going to come back like why don't you get into fitness and things of that nature which is kind of what I promote on my platform like why don't you work out as opposed to just being lazy and laying on a table and not realizing that it's going to come back but I would definitely say also just their the faces it's they don't look good to me I don't know if I'm not edited that way or my brain doesn't work that way but I don't think when women
Starting point is 01:05:46 can't move their face that it looks attractive and they look terrifying by the time they're 40 terrifying. Oh, yeah, you can't age with that. Yeah. That's what I'm saying. Trades now might, you're like, oh, okay, she's got, looks kind of cute when she's 25. And then by the time she hits 35, it just cracks, you know, because now she's, the stuff is
Starting point is 01:06:04 moving in her face. Like, girls are getting all the filler. The filler is crazy. Men are getting filler now. Look at Simon Cowell. No, he's not. What, like, lip filler? His whole face.
Starting point is 01:06:14 He just actually spoke out about his, like, addiction to it. And now he said that his, like, son told him that he looked really scary and now he's gonna stop. Oh, shit. I'm like, you're a man. Men look good when they age. That's the whole point of being a man. Like men age like fine wine. So it's why would you be, but they just are caught in this weird simulation. So I would definitely like to see women not getting like the scary face that everyone has. Do you think that people are becoming like lazier now with how much success you can get in social media, YouTube, like stuff that we do, right? And they don't want to go to work. Like is that going to become an issue you think? I think it's creating depression. I think everyone's
Starting point is 01:06:48 kind of has this mentality of how do you make a quick buck? And they don't want to work hard. And they think the easiest way to do it is either sell their bodies and things of that nature. But there's definitely a cultural depression going on. People don't go outside anymore. I mean, it's just everybody's living through their screen, which is problematic and not good. And that's something that I think being having a real life outside of, you know, the internet and starting a family. It naturally pulls you away from all that. You know, I'm like spending my free time at the farmer's market, you know. And things, learning how to grow, garden things that, it actually makes you happier, which is what I try to tell people.
Starting point is 01:07:24 Like, all this stuff seems stupid, but I love my garden. Why do you think the main reason is it seems like people just don't want families and kids anymore, like they used to? I think they do, but I think they're scared because they've been conditioned to think that, and by the way, a lot of it's going wrong because it's hard to find a quality woman. It's hard to find a quality man. So what we're talking about, there's so much out there that is tempting to people. And so that makes difficult, especially if you live in a city like L.A. or New York and your idea is like, you know, the hedge fund guy that you want to try to capture as opposed to like someone who just loves his family and goes to church on a Sunday. And women. I mean, what you're talking about? Every, every woman's a thought now, right? What did someone call it? I watched, was it PJW? What did he call it? He called it hoflation. Yeah. He's like, hoflation. Well, that's a, is that a serious issue? Yeah, I'm going to try to, yeah, it's, yeah, it's, yeah. that's a very serious issue.
Starting point is 01:08:18 I'm glad you asked. It's worse than inflation. It's actually a very, if I run for president, this is going to be my platform. Hoflation. We got to bring down hoflation. So he basically was describing as he's like,
Starting point is 01:08:29 there's an inflation of hose. Yeah, but what he was saying was that he was like your grandfather when he met your grandmother. Like he basically had to do so much less work to find the highest quality woman, right, who like cooks, cleans, loved God,
Starting point is 01:08:44 like, you know, loves the Lord, all this stuff. And he's like, now men have to do the absolute most and they're still bringing hoes you know so he calls it he was calling it hoflation and it is an epidemic you know and so i think that we live in a very hoflationary environment and there's some if you vote for me as your president i will fix the ho economy um tell us about the new show out on dale wire plus
Starting point is 01:09:12 yes yes convicting a murderer did either any of you guys watch me Making a Murder on Netflix? And no live... I've watched a lot of, like, shows like that. Like, what are the two twins that killed their parents? Yeah. Well, this one was a... The Menendez brothers.
Starting point is 01:09:27 The first really big Netflix one that they did. Yeah, and everybody watched it. It was like about Stephen Avery. It's this guy. And he basically actually did get convicted wrongly for attempted murder and rape of this woman. This was pre-DNA.A. So people, you know, would just point to someone in line up and say they did it.
Starting point is 01:09:44 this woman barely escaped with her life and she pointed to Stephen Avery and she was wrong. And years later, he served about 12 years in prison wrongly for that. Six of the years he was there for an illegitimate reason, but he's 12 years for something that he didn't actually do. He gets out and, you know, suddenly he's not out for long and he gets accused of committing a murder of another woman. So it became this like, everyone was like, no, the system's out to get him. There's a $36 million lawsuit that he has against the city of Manitoua County, and this is basically bad policing and all this stuff.
Starting point is 01:10:21 And so these documentary makers swooped down and created this whole documentary, like telling the story of Stephen Avery, and people watched it, and tens of millions people around the world convinced that he was innocent of this second crime. And Netflix really got behind this narrative in a big way. And so it caused like, this was basically white lives matter. Before there was Black Lives Matter, there was White Lives Matter. Are people crying outside of the courtroom saying this man was innocent? They wrote songs about him. I mean, this culture for non-as kept up for years. And in reality, which my docu-series will explore, we kind of went back and looked at the facts of this case.
Starting point is 01:10:53 He ended up getting convicted of killing this woman, Teresa Hallback, under the most horrific terms possible. I mean, we're talking rape, set on fire, shot, like, I mean, smashed into a pit, all of these things. And he's got fiancés in prison. He's been married multiple, like, crazy. Nobody cares about the facts after a certain point when something becomes a cultural phenomenon. And so I felt like after doing my BLM doc and kind of exposing the truth about the George Floyd story,
Starting point is 01:11:19 people kind of pigeonholed me into thinking, like, oh, she only cares about this issue because it's black versus white. In reality, I just care about the truth no matter what, as a matter what color of the criminal is. I'm very interested in the media's ability to warp people's minds, and this was an earlier example of that. So we kind of went back in, showed people what Netflix did,
Starting point is 01:11:37 really got into the case details, talked about how he got there, what they left out, you know, who the Averys were. They made them seem like this close-knit, you know, family that just loved each other and were trying to get over this trauma of having him put in prison wrongly. My documentary is going to show you, which is listening to prison calls, you know, N-word this. And, I mean, these were some really bad people, the way they speak about women, the way they speak about black people.
Starting point is 01:12:03 I mean, so it's a number, and it's just, again, one of those times. to examine how easily we all, all of us can be manipulated by the media. I have fallen victim to the media narratives before, and I'm not perfect. Maybe I'll fall for one in the future. But the Stephen Avery story and Convicting a Murderer is a 10-part docu-series that we did. And I don't know why I'm always pregnant when I do documentaries, The Daily Wire. It's weird, but I'm pregnant again, this one. That's crazy.
Starting point is 01:12:30 Yeah, I know. Just leaving out some facts and stuff can really just twist the narrative and stuff. Right. Why did you guys want to, like, like prove that case wrong? I think for me that's kind of been my interest since having my, what we talked about earlier, that cognitive dissonance moment and realizing how wrong I was about Republicans and thinking everything my whole life, I've kind of committed the rest of my life to always wanting to explore narratives that maybe people got wrong and that we all believe to be one way
Starting point is 01:12:56 or the other. Sometimes it's political. This one, it's, it's apolitical. It's more cultural. You know, but I think a lot of times it's just social justice movement in general have the ability to warp people's minds, you know, whether it's Me Too movement, BLM, whether it's one person like Stephen Avery, and the ability of a documentary maker to tell a story that we want to believe in, which is like we want to believe the cops are crooked. It just helps people, I think, explore their own mentality. And in this one, I've already gotten hate mail from my friends. They're like, I watched it. He's innocent. Canis just stay out of this one? We followed it for 10 years. So I'm really excited to show them.
Starting point is 01:13:34 When is that out right now? It is out right now. Okay. Yeah. I'm going to check that out too. We got a whole fucking... Daily Wire Plus. Daily Wire Plus, the first episode completely free, which premiered on X, formerly known as Twitter.
Starting point is 01:13:47 I feel like it's like saying like, yay, the artist formerly known as Cardin Kanye West. X is kind of sticking now, though. Yeah, it's getting there. It's starting to stick. I didn't think it would, but it's starting to. And the second episode is completely free also on Daily Wire Plus. And I know that after you watch two episodes, you're just going to binge watch because it's really interesting. So you're not a big.
Starting point is 01:14:05 conspiracy girl, too, are you? Like, I saw you say, like, conspiracies are kind of just as bad as, like, what the liberals are doing to, like, conservatives? It's gone too far, yeah, is what I would say. I think that I think that having a healthy level of skepticism is good. And I have a very, more than healthy level of skepticism, I think, is, is for sure. But what we're seeing now is people go from taking the red pill or taking the black pill. And the black pill is dangerous. It doesn't believe in anything. Everything you see is just like, this person is this person must be controlled by this. And I've seen, like, people that I used to follow well-meaning conservatives just have their brains completely rotted, you know, because they can't see anything. It's like everybody's related to George Soros, you know, everybody's related to the World Economic Forum.
Starting point is 01:14:48 And I'm just wondering if they ever even explored the basic idea of six degrees of separation. I could connect every person in this from the George Sorrows. I promise you. I promise you, I could. It's going to be some school you went to that he funded, maybe the Mike's his hedge fund. Who knows, right? And so what's happened now is they're problematizing every single. single person that's new. And I saw this a lot with Vivek Ramoswamy. He's like he took a he took
Starting point is 01:15:10 out a scholarship to law school, which like George Soros had a fellowship scholarship and they're like, he's working for George Soros. It's just like, guys, and they were like Trump also working for, I'm like, okay, is everyone working for George Soros? And so I've been just a little exhausted. And that's why I say that now I like to do it as like a spectator sport because everyone has become such a conspiracy theorist that they just can't even see straight. I promise you, I ate a slice of pizza once on my Instagram, and they said I was a part of Pizza in New York City, the most appropriate place to eat a slice of pizza. And I was just like posting this pepperoni pizza, hadn't had pizza, good pizza in so long. And it was during COVID, and I wanted to prove
Starting point is 01:15:47 that I could get the pizza without the Vax pass as I wasn't faxed. And then I posted it on my Instagram. Super cool picture. I looked posh. I just got back from interviewing Eric Trump. I was in this wonderful blazer. Every comment, I knew it. They got her. They got her. Pizza. I was like, you guys literally just like, if you can't even look at a pizza pizza now on the internet, it's time of log off. You know what I mean? It's time of log off. So we're dealing with that now. And I get it, obviously, because people, we've been lied to so much about such big things like COVID as just one example, that it's hard for people to know who or what to trust, but you have to find a healthy balance or you're just going to become a crazy person. How about Obama's chef? Did you see what happened with that? I have not looked into it, but that seems like one I might enjoy. What is that? His chef? I don't know too much. about it either but his chef like drowned yeah and it wasn't the first chef that drowned in the lake or something yeah and it was just like a weird people were saying there was a conspiracy theory around it there may be or may not be but i have to do my i have to do my interesting yeah yeah why you give me this oh no i wasn't oh okay no i yeah yeah it's just like it's people are writing have been writing
Starting point is 01:16:55 about it but i haven't actually looked at it myself but um you know yeah it would be more interesting if it was the Clintons. Well, that'd be more obvious. It'd be more obvious. But yeah, Martha's Vineyard, I guess. The chef died, and they haven't really told much about how it happened. And so people are running with a lot of conspiracy theories, but I don't know much about that, to be completely honest.
Starting point is 01:17:16 What is one that's like a public conspiracy that you do agree with? I say this all the time. You're never going to come into any way from this one. Me and my husband have wars about this one. We're on opposite sides. The moon landing. I just can't get behind it. I can't believe it happened.
Starting point is 01:17:30 You don't think it happened? No, I think it's weird. I think Elon Musk knows it didn't happen because he says when he's ever asked. He's like, oh, it's kind of weird how we just never went back. And, you know, like the moon is 26,000 miles away. And now we, and since being there, we've never gone beyond 200 miles. It's like the whole thing. If you look into it, it's weird.
Starting point is 01:17:48 And then like they also live aired it in 1969. Like that's weird. So we've never landed men on the moon since that? I don't think we did it the first time. Yeah. But like technically. I agree with you. Because it's like we're so much more.
Starting point is 01:18:00 For more advanced, we've never done it again. It's just that the whole thing's weird. And then they lost all the original tapes, but they premiered it live all around the world. We even have cell phone. The whole thing is just I can't get behind the moon landing. And I argue with everyone about this. I'm like, guys, leave me alone. This is my conspiracy.
Starting point is 01:18:17 What would be the reason to fake it? That's a great question. That is a great question. I mean, some people say it's because the Americans were racing. Russia. Yeah. Like it was like a, like we had to do it first or something like that. but and also the person they hired to film it was like a L like an LA producer it's just like
Starting point is 01:18:35 there's so many weird things about the moon landing and I'm like I'm like I tweeted that once I was like what is one relatively harmless conspiracy theory that like you could totally see being actually a faction I'm like that we faked the moon landing that's that that's mine what about you I don't really know I've always been like just like into conspiracies like I'll look into them even like 9-11 back then or like shady we definitely were not told the truth about 9-11 I don't think that's just a fact. Weird stuff. Like the phone calls.
Starting point is 01:19:02 Like suddenly I can't get service like three feet in the air, but you're telling me like in 2001, like 20 people are just like calling their spouses saying. That was the craziest one or the tower seven thing. Finding the passports. Yeah. But they couldn't find human remains. I mean, there was a lot of weird stuff. Like they may have added evidence because they had a narrative they wanted to go through. But I think we all, I don't even like calling like a conspiracy theory.
Starting point is 01:19:21 I think it's just like kind of a fact that like we do not know everything that happened that day, you know. One more thing I want to ask is what do you think about. Kim Jong-un just said that he's going to meet with Putin in Russia. You didn't hear that? No, but it's not surprising. I guess they're going to discuss North Korea possibly providing weapons to Russia. Not surprising. I mean, they've always had a relationship, A, B, what are you leaving Putin with?
Starting point is 01:19:46 You're folding him into the arms of, you're going to be China. It's going to be all of the Asian nations, obviously, because you're basically telling him that he can't do business with anybody in Europe, which should have been a natural along. I mean, we've completely fumbled the ball. People have been treating it like we live, you know, the Cold War is still going on. And unfortunately, the problem is that we have a bunch of people that live through the Cold War that are informing foreign policy, right? And they're not after peace. They are just after this narrative that Russia Putin bad. And we've got billions and billions and billions of dollars to spend to prove that, even though there's obviously we're not going to, this is an unwinnable situation. What are we even doing over there, you know, other than funding Zelensky? What do you think we should get out of? Ukraine? We should never go in. Yeah. You spent billions, right? Do you think that's more, that's more of a like war between Europe. It's like, why are we even involved? Why are we, why does America think that we have to put our nose and everything? It's just, it's stunning to me. And to see people on that Republican primary stage trying to convince us that that's what we have
Starting point is 01:20:44 to do. Like it's, it's, we are supposed to be the world's police. It's like absolutely not. It's a complete, it's completely ridiculous to suggest that imagine if Putin had soldiers in Mexico. I mean, that's what we're doing. That's what NATO is. We've got soldiers in other people's backyards and on their borders. And then we say to them, it's because we're the world police. I mean, it's such a nonsense. Like I am very much a nationalist. I believe that we should be focused on things that impact America. I think we should be focusing on what's happened in what's happening in San Francisco. They've got poop squads. You've got people that are in the streets tweaking. You know, we have so many epidemics here that we could choose from. We have a literal
Starting point is 01:21:21 invasion happening at our own border. And you're trying to tell me that I need to care about what's happening in Ukraine first. I don't. That's the answer. I just. don't, you know. Do you ever feel like American society is just like, do you feel like the U.S. will fall as the world's greatest empire? Well, we're seeing them talking about, you know, it's definitely not going to be the strongest dollar. And it's, in my opinion, with the way that we are conducting ourselves from a foreign policy perspective, it is inevitable. So if we don't get somebody in there that's going to correct the ship and stop trying to basically say that we will bully everybody in submission, that we, I mean, we even say things like, if we won't give you
Starting point is 01:21:57 money unless you agree to teach your children pronouns like america's doing this kind of shit it's crazy it's literally crazy you see what they're learning in china or the ai thing in china no the students have like these i saw it on i think jo rogan reacted it but they'd have these like headbands on and it monitors if they're like paying attention it monitors if they're tired it can like tell if they're going on their phone and it's all tracked to like a tablet and the parents get like a report so they're literally just their i i could raining the to be like they're going to have a like a civilization of like meanwhile in los angeles what are we teaching our kids they can't even read you know so it's i don't see how america is not destined
Starting point is 01:22:41 to have to deal with the consequences of what we've done to the education system the consequences of what we've done to people's mentality with all these ridiculous social justice movements the consequences of weak families and um i think we're we're coming to that moment very quickly and And unfortunately, people will be very ill-prepared for it because we've lived in times of privilege for so long that we don't know, we don't understand what it means when you're not number one anymore. And we're going to get smacked in the face, people that don't even who think food grows in a grocery store.
Starting point is 01:23:10 That's why I took it upon myself to learn how to grow my food. You know, my husband hunts. I just learned to hunt, you know, because when hard times come, all of this stuff, it's not going to be anything. You know what I mean? Do you know how to grow fruits and vegetables? If the answer is no, you've got nothing. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:23:27 Damn, that's scary. Yeah. Okay, so hunter, gatherer. What are the three most important traits for the most manly man? I mean, I think men should learn how to hunt, shoot, do all those things. That's attractive to me. Like, you know, that's definitely the thing like that attracted me to my husband, you know, like, because I'm like, okay, there was something biological there. You can live off, we can live off of a land and it made me want to go into the hunter gatherer.
Starting point is 01:23:52 No, I saw you said you had a boyfriend and you had to break up with him because you felt that if, there was ever a break in, he wouldn't protect you. Yeah. Yeah. I just suddenly realized I was, I was dating this guy in New York City where men are a little softer in New York and L.A., I think, probably is a fair thing to say. And he just, I just suddenly, once in the couch and looking at him, just being like, if someone breaks into this house, I'm going to, I'm going to have. Did you tell him that? No, no, no, no, no, no. I said it in my head. I didn't say it, but I broke up with him the next day. Yeah. What was your explanation? door I was just like you know I think blah blah blah a bunch of BS but in my head I just remember
Starting point is 01:24:32 looking at him and just having that moment of like you're not gonna do shit you know and it was something that he said about like it was something about the like you know he bought the lock to like you know double lock in case something and I'm like the double lock yeah it's a double lock like someone comes to the store and so I think I think men should lean into being protectors, knowing what it means to protect. You don't need to be the biggest guy, the fastest guy, but you should know how to shoot and you should know how to hunt. You should know what to do. My husband was how like skin and animal and all that stuff. And I learned it in Africa at the end of last year because I wanted to know how to do it. And I just think that
Starting point is 01:25:15 stuff is really super important. So we've purchased land and, you know, with running water on it that we can live off of. And I didn't, it was crazy realizing two years ago, I didn't know how to grow vegetables. And then when you grow them, you're like, why do I ever buy them at the grocery store? They're so expensive. And when you grow them, your problem is you have too much. It's like crazy. I'm like,
Starting point is 01:25:30 how do I go to the farmer's market? How do I turn this into hot sauce? How do I, you know? And so I've been in that phase of my life of just wanting to know how to do how to do everything that our grandparents knew how to do how to do, which is just that wild.
Starting point is 01:25:40 I'd have to start in a garden in the backyard. I know. Yeah. It'd be pretty sauce actually. Yeah. I'll do the hunting. Literal sauce. You grow the crops.
Starting point is 01:25:48 You could barely shoot a gun on the range then. You were scared. It was a desert eagle. Have you shot a eagle? Have you shot a eagle before? What is that? Like a desert eagle? No.
Starting point is 01:25:56 Yeah. There's a lot of recoil. Yeah. That's all. I'm just saying. No, but you get better. Garden in the backyard could be a play though. But even just learning about how, like knowing about how to catch different animals.
Starting point is 01:26:06 Like they're so effing smart, you know? Like they're like, you know, they hear you, all this stuff. Like how to actually hunt an animal, what rifles you need to use. Like all of that stuff is super important. Like men should go on man trips and go learn all that stuff, you know? Yeah. Because all the other stuff doesn't really mean anything at the end of the day if you can't keep your kids fed. and keep you know i agree i love the garden play now no for real and it's literally it could literally
Starting point is 01:26:29 be sauce especially if we do have some girls over to the house and like we show them the hot tub the pool and it's like oh also we have our own garden yeah it would be like this is a random flex yeah that's i'm telling you that's a play you think that's attractive oh yeah oh yeah well like what's what are you growing in the back i'll grow everything like carrots lettuce yeah so don't grow watermelons do you grow fruit too or no no i did watermelon and I'll never do them again because they grow like freaking I'm not a big like I'm I'm a vegetable person I love vegetables I eat all vegetables fruit I'm like finicky on depending on textures but yeah so I grew I grew what I ate you know obviously it was the first thing so I had so many
Starting point is 01:27:08 different varieties of tomatoes and peppers I failed at Brussels sprouts but I think I planted them a little bit too early to be honest things that you learn I just wasn't the right season because you live in an agricultural zone so there's certain things you can grow down here that I can't grow You can probably, you probably could do like avocado trees. You can probably snap. Yeah, yeah, you could. Imagine you just said to the girl, I have an avocado tree in the back. Let me just grab you with avocado.
Starting point is 01:27:30 And then you go to the grocery store and you're spending like, fresh cucumber. Some fresh cucumbers? 20 on a freaking avocado. And you're like, then when you grow them, you're like, why the heck did I ever spend this money? I have so many on what to do with it. Then you get into canning and freezing them. So now I have like these deep freezers in my, you know, because I'm just going to eat them all
Starting point is 01:27:46 through the winter now that I'm done growing all of them. Like it's a whole, it's a whole flex. I love it. Yeah. I actually love it We're doing it Straight up You need to send me updates
Starting point is 01:27:56 Of what you're growing I think it's great You should do like an instructional video For us or something Yeah you know you just learn It's actually so easy Like I remember why I was I was so overwhelmed by this idea
Starting point is 01:28:05 Next time you come back You can come check on our garden You just literally drop the seeds And the dirt just grows And then you learn like what's a weed When it pops up You're like is that my fruit Is that my vegetable
Starting point is 01:28:13 And you're like no it's a weed You gotta go pull them You know And then just suddenly you have so much food And it happens so much faster Then you realize Like it's like a couple of weeks
Starting point is 01:28:21 and then you're like what am I going to do with all this lettuce you know what I'm going to do with all this and then you got to learn how to fight
Starting point is 01:28:26 the rabbits I don't we were smart we had like a loud noise around them the animals won't go anywhere near
Starting point is 01:28:32 if they can't hear themselves but then then you suddenly you're turning into a hunter true all of the shooting
Starting point is 01:28:39 yeah yeah cool I'm pumped all right let's get to the garden let's go buy some seeds well we appreciate
Starting point is 01:28:45 yeah this is your second time coming on too my second time doing the what does it mean good for like when we
Starting point is 01:28:50 it a long time ago it just like you know when you make like a random like gamer tag on like a gaming thing yeah it's good for like nick elliot lucas kyle that's just like who we did it with at the time this is your grand theft auto chab i'm gonna find you it's like that yeah but now it's just like no boys it doesn't even mean anything i like it yeah yeah it just it seems like it means something yeah yeah deep down it does well we appreciate you thank you so much yeah thank you so much it's always a good time let's go thank you guys thank you guys

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