FULL SEND PODCAST - Dana White x Nelk Boys | Ep. 1
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So episode one of the full said podcast, Kyle is crazy enough to give me a chance here to take the lead with Kyle and our first guest, none other than Dana White.
And then he's two hours late.
By the way, not my fault.
Time out.
By the way, that was not my fault.
The fucking plane broke.
I was sitting there.
We talked to Dana, I think, what, 1.30?
I was, listen to me, it was one o'clock.
I was there at the airport at 8 a.m. the fucking plane broke and I had to switch off.
So it wasn't my fault for once.
It is well documented.
He has it all over his Instagram.
Anyway, real quickly, though, I have to say this.
I don't mean to jump the ship.
I know it's the full send podcast.
Kyle's laid.
How do you guys know each other?
My son introduced us.
Really?
Yeah.
Nice.
Interesting.
Me and Dana Jr. met up at a bar and stuff, and then me and Dana just developed a good relationship.
Do you guys, do you remember, though, truthfully, what I called you about this game?
Yeah.
I do.
It was six during the morning.
No, I always give credit to Bob.
I was in Maine.
I was in my place up in Maine, and you FaceTime me, and you were with Kyle.
How long ago was that?
No, that's not how it went.
No, I was by myself.
No, I was by myself when that happened.
I said, Dana, these guys are going to be good for the U.S.
I'm not trying to take credit here, but I really did hear about these guys from my son.
My son turned me on to these guys, and then fate may have it.
You called me one night with Kyle.
You were on FaceTime, and you called me with Kyle.
And that was how it got started.
And your kids went fucking nuts.
Nuts.
But our first real interaction where we all got to be in the same room was Fight Island, the first one, in Abu Dhabi.
Yeah.
But you had Fight Island come around the first time, right?
That was at the heart of COVID?
Yeah, what's the question?
The first time, Fight Island, you were supposed to launch Fight Island, right?
And it got disrupted, didn't it, because of the whole COVID scare?
No, no, no.
Fight Island was created because of COVID.
That's how it started.
And then I think when you guys went, that was the second time I had been there.
I was already there for a stint.
Then I went back.
You were there for like eight minutes.
Right.
And then, uh...
I built quick.
I was so fucking paranoid.
Oh, I mean, I'm gonna lie about it.
I pushed you out.
I was there for eight minutes.
And then flew 17 hours,
but actually more because you went to Boston.
That lie gets so deep.
It was like 22 hours.
Do you regret that or no?
No, not at all.
I think like, I did my job.
I said,
like, did you actually think that like we would risk everything and like do some shit
with like the Abu Dhabi people and like do a prank
that would fuck a relationship,
up relationship
about the date
and the U.S.
The first fucking thing
that happens
when we go off
the plane
is Saleem
walks up
and is a girl
all in robes
Salim walks up
to her and gives her
a fucking hug.
Now isn't that
frowned upon
in that country?
Yeah.
Oh,
he shook her hand.
Sorry,
because he's Muslim
too.
So I think he's like
You can shake her hand.
I mean,
you don't want to be hugging
women you don't know
anywhere,
let alone in the Middle East
but,
uh,
yeah.
Listen,
they were excited
that they were coming.
It wasn't,
they were well prepped
on who was coming and what they do.
I think they're watching our every move and stuff like that.
I mean, they had to have been, of course.
I mean, you guys are a big deal.
And I have a couple of friends over there.
And so, I mean, I just got some messages who were like, look,
they don't fuck around over here.
Now, I know you're protected by the big man, but.
So were, like, were you like, sketching out before you were so fucking paranoid at that place.
Because, like, why not just tap out when we were quarantining in the Vegas motel?
He was close.
I could tell by the video.
Like, why not tap out there?
I could tell by the videos.
I was very, very close tapping out.
But I figured I have to go over there.
hold your hand make sure you guys know it introduce you guys and then fly away that was it
you were somebody during you know the heart of the pandemic that was like fuck it you know i'm going
all out i don't give a fuck and correct me if i'm wrong you know we're going full speed you know
we're every other sport and i talked to a lot of people that were pretty high up that said dana
is making the biggest mistake of his fucking life this is the dumbest thing you can do he's going to
fucking cripple the UFC.
And what amazes me is the fact that you said, no, fuck that.
What was the decision making behind being so aggressive during COVID?
Yeah, because I, you know, there's my, I've never had the mentality to fucking run and hide.
You know what I mean?
You figure out solutions to problems.
Hiding is never a solution to a problem.
Hiding in your house for a year, laying off 30 to 35% of your employees who've been with me for 10 years plus.
Some have been here for almost 20 years,
and I'm just going to lay them off, right?
You want to know why I think people are having,
some of these businesses are having a hard time
getting people back to work,
because a lot of these people are like, fuck you.
When the shit hit the fan,
you fucking cut my throat.
You fucking, you know, when your family needs it the most, right?
A pandemic is going on.
There's so much uncertainty of what's going to happen in the future.
and what do you do the first thing you do is fucking cut me loose i've been with you for
fucking 10 years 20 years whatever it is that's an option that's a fucking option that's never an
option for me my thing was i'll give up my salary and my bonus and whatever else i got coming to me
this year and we won't lay off any employees and if this doesn't work well at least i tried
at least i could i can look my people in the face and not just my employees my fighters
And say, I tried.
Right.
I just felt like I shouldn't try.
And I took the easy route and I just fucking cut all you people loose and let you go.
Who the fuck?
You know what I mean?
And then you want to call yourself a leader, right?
Like you said, you talked to a lot of people that were high up that said he's doing the dumbest fucking thing you could ever do.
I disagree.
Right.
I think they did the dumbest thing they could ever fucking do.
Right.
Which is cutting your people's fucking throats.
That is something that I will never do.
We'll all go down together.
None of us will fucking go down.
When do you think it's going to end?
Because I saw in L.A. too.
Now, you know, we live in O.C.
They're bringing back the mask mandate in L.A.
County now, again.
Like, they removed it, and now it's like,
they're talking about a second wave type shit again.
Listen, this shit is like the flu.
It's not going away.
It's going to be here.
So what are we going to do?
We're going to shut down every time the flu pops up,
and I'm not saying that this is like the flu.
You know, I'm saying it's like the flu.
and that it's going to keep coming back.
And just like anything else in life,
cancer, heart attacks, fucking the flu,
some shit's going to get us,
and some shit, you know,
some of us will get it and some of us won't.
And that's life.
You can't shut down the fucking world
and stop everything.
And the ones that I feel sorry is for
are the kids,
these kids that, you know,
trying to go to school through this
and mass and homeschooling
and, you know,
It's just, it's wrong, man.
This whole thing is being done the wrong way.
Was there every moment when you were like,
I'm making the wrong decision?
No, no, but I'm not going to lie.
It was so fucking hard at some points.
I was like, what am I doing?
Listen, it would have been really easy
to kick back in my house.
Right, and just shut it down.
And do nothing for a while.
Right.
But when is the easy route ever the route to take?
You know what I mean?
Because the truth is,
in the beginning, when this thing first,
If this thing was as deadly as everybody said it was going to be, we're fucked anywhere.
Yeah, it's fucked.
Right.
But it's not.
Exactly.
We would have been fucked.
You know?
And I'm going to be the dude that's going to go down fucking swinging.
I'm not going to go hide, fire everybody and fucking, you know, go hide my big fat house and come out, you know, a year later or whatever the deal is.
That's something we caught a shit ton of flak for too.
Because remember when, I don't know if you remember when you called me one time, but we got in a ton of shit.
We got in a ton of shit because, like, people don't, like, think, but, like, we're, like, a business just like anyone else, too.
So when COVID started, we tried to, like, make videos around the house or not travel, but, like, we had to end up, like, traveling and, like, continuing to do our thing, too.
And then we got, like, a shit ton of news in the media for, like, traveling during COVID and stuff like that.
And YouTube threatened to delete our channel and shit.
So it's, like, it's tough.
Like, but we have to do the same thing.
It's like, you can't just shut down because it's, like, we need to make money.
We need to keep funding this operation.
like we got people to pay right i don't think people get that though people that depend on you
people that depend on you for a fucking paycheck and you're you're going to stay the course no matter what
same stuff going down in the world you're going to say the course 100% well i feel like we're
kind of passed it now i know what to expect now i'm ready for whatever they got so how does
how does a deal go down with something like an abu dhabi deal so how did that whole thing transpire
why abu dhabi well i've had a relationship with them for 12 years so um abu dhabi's been a big
part of the UFC and they were they were an investor early on you know when we sold in 16 they
cashed out too so um we we had we had been very close to them uh they're very progressive very
smart and uh they were all about it you know and we we literally built the best bubble that
existed during COVID was over there in Abu Dhabi the best bubble that was insane that we
right that was not the two
you missed out a lot but yeah yeah you missed that a lot
but we were treated like kings
it was awesome like me and Steve were like
this is fucked like Dana you could tell
on your Dana's gas like what was your
highlight of the trip what was your favorite part of the trip
the hospitality level
at that place is
beyond belief I mean everything
is brand new the hotels are all
beautiful and dialed in
restaurants are incredible the best of the best
restaurants the best of the best everything
and the services over the top
Their goal is to just show their country off
and to have people want to go to Abu Dhabi
is the overall reason why they would kind of bring the UFC there?
Well, no, I mean, listen, it's like any other city.
What city doesn't want events?
Everybody wants events.
London, New York, Paris.
It's all about events.
That's every city, not just Abu Dhabi.
So, Dana, let me ask for something.
Bob always pitches me.
One thing he wants to do is he wants to be like a liaison
between the milk boys and the Middle East.
So he always tells me
He calls me and says, Kyle, I want to
broker a deal between you
and the people in the Middle East
for the Nelk Boys to come do tourism
around the Middle East. Do you think
I should trust them and let him be the broker?
Is he going to show up?
I think you might want Dana to take the lead on this.
How long do you should show up for?
He's terrified to go to the middle.
You know what, though?
Bob is like, you know,
99% of the people in the United States.
They have this, you know, they have this idea of what it's like in the Middle East and that it's scary.
And if you go over there and you don't follow the rule, you don't do this and you don't do that.
There are places in the Middle East that are like that.
Abu Dhabi and Dubai are not like that.
It's very normal.
L.A. is more dangerous than Abu Dhabi.
I never felt safer than when I was in Abu Dhabi.
So true.
Was there rumors to do anything with Saudi Arabia?
Were you going to do anything with that over there?
Saudi Arabia is doing a lot of stuff in combat sports too.
but no I have an exclusive deal with
I'll be with Abu Dhabi till the day I die
Nice I remember that too I didn't think of it
But when we first got invited
Everyone was telling us you guys can't go
You can't drink you can't swear
You can't do this, you can't do that
You can't do that
You were protected by the big man
Not just you're not true
None of that shit's nothing to do with me
It has nothing to do with me
First of all
I know I know Obama and Dubai in Dubai in Dubai
very safe
Two of the days those guys went out
Went to places I never even fucking heard
They had a gunman around
Every fucking daughter at every turn
They went to places I never
even heard of it. That one part
outside day club that they're at that one
day when they were walking around with the belt
I saw it all. Trust me. I so sit in my
fucking parents' bedroom watching from the other
fucking side of the world. Literally
there was nobody on that plane too. When I went home there was like
four people on that flight. 17 hours out of it. Listen,
whoever goes over to Abu Dhabi or Dubai
they take care of them. No, it was beautiful.
The place, the service
and the way that you're treated over there
is unfucking believable.
It's incredible. And you left two random guys
there too. You left your assistant. I love my assistant.
And you left some guy...
Listen, I was right along the whole way.
I said, Aaron, worked for me for a year, okay?
Work your ass off.
But you left...
You brought some guy that you met two weeks ago.
A higher entity that's going to take you from here.
I'm the fucking connector.
I'm the middleman.
So what was the thing that was going on in Boston
that you thought I was behind fucking with you?
Oh, I had.
Dude, I have a serious, like, serious stalker situation.
Is that...
Girl, I told you, I was like in the fucking movie Saw.
I had some lady delivered cookies.
I had some dude...
It was like nuts.
The whole situation.
I was getting fucked with.
buy somebody and I'm still not convinced it's not you too
if they were delivering shit to you why
how's that you fucking with you?
No it was a whole sequence of events
I can't explain it right now it was just all different shit
somebody was fucked with me that's all the meeting in the Chinese
restaurant
that was another separate deal that I had to kind of help
I mean I do a lot of different things you know
whether it be you know helping the UFC in major ways
by bringing like these young YouTubers
and you know bring them to you and saying hey
this is going to work you know these are young guys
that you want around your sport you know
and hey look at you guys now
by the way how is the uh the fights you two the uh amazing the fights the big one that fight was the
sickest weekend my birthday weekend too wow we sat right behind trump wow beber was there machine gun
kelly megan fox who else cordney cardassian yeah only the uh elite of the elite mel gibson was
at the end of your row no was he there yeah he was to the left of shit that was insane dude
you had my kids went on the other side of my kids yeah mel Gibson
And those tickets were at $250K a pop?
So the tickets where you guys were sitting, two sold for $250,000.
Combined together.
Bro, that arena was electric.
It was awesome, wasn't it?
That was one of the craziest moments of my life.
So you think the UFC right now is an all-time peak?
100%.
You guys are fucking murdering.
Yeah.
I mean, that was, the Porriere-McGregor fight was the second biggest UFC fight of all time,
the number one being Kabeb and Connor.
And, yeah, the fan base is bigger since we went through COVID, you know, social media.
I mean, every way you can measure and gauge your business were bigger than we were before the pandemic started.
So what do you attribute that to, just the whole being aggressive during COVID when every other sports shut down?
Nobody had anything to watch but you?
Yeah, yeah, 100%.
You know, a lot of people got, one of the big things that happened for us during COVID was gamblers.
you know they couldn't gamble on any other things
baseball basketball football horse racing or any of that shit
so they started betting on uh on ufc yeah that was big for us and so was uh you know the fact
that nothing else was on so so real good back about when you really think back to the
to the heart of the pandemic right in the middle of it i mean there was fucking nothing to do
that was absolutely awesome nothing on tv no new movies were coming out no new tv shows were coming
out. You know, if you think about it, you know, three to four to five new movies come out every
single weekend, you know, in normal life. Nothing. No, everything shut down. It was scary.
No sports. You started to realize how important live sporting events really are to you and what
they mean to you, you know. And how many people in your circle came to you, and I mean to keep
beating dead horse, but came to you and said, you're making a mistake. Yeah, you listened to the
beginning with the uh with with my um executives we had a uh we had a we had a we had a little
rough go at it and in the beginning and then once everybody knew that i was dead set on doing this
everybody was on board how do you like push through that shit like when all the media like
comes because i don't give a fuck about the media the media are all full of shit think about this
right because covid was like different it was like and it still is it's like if you don't
obey covid and the way society wants you to like play with covid
like they come for you
like I actually want to know
because I deal with that too
how do you have the balls
to push you that
because I don't give a fuck
I don't give a fuck
when you look at these media people
who the fuck are they
what have they ever done
what have they ever accomplished
what are these people ever built
or done nothing
fucking zero less than zero
you know
their opinion means jack shit to me
if I listen to the media
from day one
wouldn't be where we are today
you gotta block all that noise
out man block it out
and you really seriously have to get
to a point you will
as you do this more and you get older
it'll get to a point where you literally
don't give a fuck you know it's scary for us though now is like
two years ago it used to just be all about
your fans so if we did something
or we said something that was like controversial
it'd be up to our fans like whether they'd cancel us or not
or not fuck with us but now
when you're dealing with these like liberal ass platforms
like YouTube, Instagram, like when we did that whole COVID traveling through COVID shit,
YouTube sent us like a manual email, which they never do.
It's always like automized.
But it was like manual and they said, you guys got to watch your off platform responsibility.
And they basically threatened to delete our channel.
So now it's different.
Like when you're relying on YouTube, we got to like, if you don't play by the liberal-ass rules now,
it's like they'll just delete you.
Like look what they didn't do Trump or like that's what you're playing by.
It's like you're not even like our fans don't give a.
fuck like we can say whatever we want
do whatever we want they'll always be there
but YouTube it's like you're like
you're playing by their rules now
100% that's what's scary about it
for us now yeah it's true
and uh you know
as time goes on
there will be more platforms
for you to uh
that's what we need to yeah yeah
it's it's got to happen
are you uh are you happy with the whole
way the McGregor fight turned out
as far as I mean
what's a perfect outcome for you guys for business however listen whoever wins wins we put on
you know fights with the best fighters in the world and whoever wins wins and you know you move on
you know he won now he'll fight for dust emporio will fight for the title you know conner's
going to heal up and uh hopefully come back in a year and you know a lot of things will change
in the next year while connor's gone so see where the what the world looks like when connor
honor comes back and figure out what he does next what his leg just gave out is that what
happened was like broke i mean i was sorry i didn't have a chance to watch the fight i didn't
give out it broke you get to make that one i missed out on that sorry my apologies i would have
been there but how did you not how did you don't watch all they might have caused a little stir
the last one so uh my apologies there on that one too watch it i know i did watch i was at a bar
i was going to say you bet 66 000 on porre i did it did listen we don't put numbers on this
thing for god's sake but i made the biggest bet i ever made my life on porier and
Don't what? Don't put the numbers out.
No, that's it. That's dumb.
You'll take a fucking DM I send you and post it on fucking...
I never post it a bad one.
What's the...
What's the biggest...
Did you bet you've ever made?
Is there an extra happy dad, do you?
Yeah, take it. What's the biggest bet you've ever made, though?
Is there an extra happy dad in there?
Oh, fuck. The biggest bet you're a one...
Yeah.
A million dollars.
Really?
Yeah, I bet a million dollars.
You bet a million dollars or just mostly cards?
No, I fucking hate betting sports.
I hate it.
Hate it, hate it.
I, um...
remember germane taylor
no
the boxer
good looking fucking kid
came up uh i think he came up through the
olympics and actually married the
uh the volleyball player
um
he fought that white kid from
fucking uh
where the fuck is that kid from
i want to say he's from cleveland
and i thought jermaine taylor
was going to fucking kill him
germane taylor got destroyed
that was your million dollar bet for a million bucks
and you lost i was in
Cabo. Yeah, I was in Cabo, relax and having
fun fucking. That was the end of the fun.
Fucking ruin my whole trip.
You black check? Will you play blackjack?
Yeah, yeah. I play blackjack all the time.
But sports betting, I stopped doing it.
It's too hard. It's too. I fucking hate it.
It's not. Do you see the Addison Ray shit at the Trump fight? Did you see all the
backlash stuff from that? I called her. Oh, you did?
I said, fuck them.
Wait, what happened? I wasn't know for that. What happened? So,
yeah, I guess it was kind of our fault, too. People got mad us a little bit. But
we're sitting right behind Trump at the fight
and then we were so surprised
because like all these TikTok girls
and like all these influencer girls
in L.A., not saying
Addison did it, but like when Biden won
they were literally like
posting stories of them crying
in the streets of Hollywood. Like they were so
happy like, you know how it is.
So Addison walks up right past us
and she taps Trump on the shoulder, not even like
an off time, right in one of the middle of like
the fights or like I don't even think it was the middle
of the round. She said a little one? She said
hi to Trump. So we were like, Addison
Ray just said hi to Trump. Like
Oh yeah, you guys definitely fuck this turned out. I mean, we
got it. Like, Steve said Trump's going to fuck her
and shit. But like, we were just surprised.
So like, we kind of put that in our video, obviously, right
that. And she was getting a ton of backlash for it.
Yeah. And she's a good kid. She's a nice
kid. Yeah. And I called
her and said, listen. Who the fuck cares? Who gives a fuck?
Who gives a fuck? You'll learn that as you go. She's kind of nude
all this stuff, right? What's your, you're obviously
been a big, you just spoke with the
Republican National Convention about you?
I saw you, you posted something
and you're putting out.
What are you talking about?
Yeah, I'll tell you what I'm talking about.
You posted the thing about the mask of the Uber.
And the Instagram took it down.
Trust me, I stand by my shit.
No, I did not delete anything.
You fucking believe it.
I never fucking delete anything.
There's no way they took it down.
Where did you post?
I posted something where I, and I still say it right here.
I don't know what the fuck's going on the Uber thing.
When I get an Uber, you got to wear a fucking mask.
He's in an Uber.
He's like, why do I have to wear a mask?
Yeah.
And basically, all he said was our mask
really a thing. We got to wear a mask
and an Uber. And then he said that
Uber's controlling you,
he said to the driver, Uber's controlling you.
Which is kind of crazy. I just don't get this. I don't get like...
And then everybody went crazy. It didn't go the way
he thought it was going to go. They started going after him.
And he deleted that shit. It went
exactly the way I thought it was going to happen. Everything was
playing up to plan. And then Instagram took it down
unfortunately, which is just, you know...
Did you ever hesitate to, like, publicly
support Trump? I know you guys had a long
relationship. When you did it... I spoke of the National
Convention. I spoke at the Republican...
convention twice and many other rallies for Trump you know listen man this is
America you vote for who the fuck you want to vote for you know what I mean and
everybody wants to label you you're a fucking racist you're a piece of shit you're
you know you hate everybody if you're for Trump you know which everybody knows
you know at the end of the day I know exactly who the fuck I am and exactly you
know what i do for people and and whatever i don't give a flying fuck what any of these other people
think doesn't matter to me when we did that like i i had a few girls from l.a that just like straight
unfollowed me like right when i did that like they're just like there's no excuse for like that
like you you can't see a lot and especially canada like i have a lot of friends back home in canada
is like fucking communist at this point now so it's like when they saw that like even my mom was
like what the fuck like you you were with trump like yeah just like people are very like they've done
a great job of flipping the whole thing that if you're for trump you you're just you're for hate
and you don't like you know other people and whatever the deal is did he call you go to the fighter
did you ask you invite him there yeah no they reached out and said he was going to come nice
he doesn't have to ask he just fucking says i'm coming yeah now i didn't see him though was he
he wasn't on the ufc on paperview he didn't get shown why was there was a decision making behind
that. So what happened was
there's all these conspiracies
about that. Don't pivot out of this. Don't pivot out of it.
ESPN
didn't want to show them. And then
there was the ESPN didn't want
to show them and then what was the big one.
Another big conspiracy on what happened.
So
it's the co-made event.
Right in between the co-made event
and the main event, we're getting
ready to fucking show Trump.
It was going to go
OBJ
2 chains
Spade
Trump
and
according to my guy in the truck
something went wrong
with one of the machines
so the first thing I said
seems like a big mistake of machine
to happen with the former president of the United States
there so this is
this is Saturday so my guy calls and says
we're going to show the video of you and Trump
walking in the arena
instead of doing a still of him
out there and said, cool, whatever.
So I thought it aired
because he called me and said that's what's going on.
I find out Sunday it didn't air.
Now, you've got to remember, too.
We hire 150,
at least 150
people that come in and work production
for us that aren't full-time employees
here. So you know the first
thing I said is
one of those fucking guys
did this
on purpose
so that that went there
we dove into it
and allegedly
it wasn't done on purpose
but
we saw the beginning
of OBJ
and they held on them
for a long time
then they're saying
something went wrong
so none of those other celebrities
got shown
including Trump
and
yeah
and that's what happened
what do you think it is
with the media
like why
why are they so
like against like Trump in that side like is it about money is it about like i don't know it's a good
question i mean i mean if you look at the things that trump did while he was in there listen
should trump have stayed off twitter more yes absolutely yeah uh did trump say some crazy things
here and there yes he did but he did a lot of good things while he was president um and i i don't know
problem is i don't know when they started when they started going man it it it if
fucking escalated quickly.
But you guys obviously have UFC fans
that are on both sides of the fence, right?
Yeah, both sides. So at the end of the day,
you guys got to sit back and say, does this divide our
audience and does it take away from
it'll pissing people off by putting them on there?
You know, but say, I mean, for instance, putting him on the big screen.
I'm the president of the United States.
Yeah. You know what I mean?
He was the president of the United States, and he's
at the event. Of course we're going to fucking show him.
Right. You know, if
Obama came, we'd fucking show
Obama. If
Jimmy Carter came, we'd fucking show Jimmy Carter.
Chances of Biden are of hitting you up to come to a U.S.
I don't see that happening.
I don't think he watched the U.S.C.
But you know what I mean? He's the former president of the United States.
We would show any former president of the United States, you know?
You know, you know you're getting, you get to be a little bit hot here is when you got people fucking with you on the internet.
And I see there's a guy, Jake Paul, fucking with you.
Is he own real estate in your head?
Oh, no.
Listen, that's all part of the business.
You know, you want to get noticed?
you want to stir up some shit start a fight with me
that that I mean that's how you do it
right you know
um
he's on fucking showtime
what they're gonna fucking you know what I mean
showtime is like the fucking
the fucking bottom of the barrel
are they in the shits though
oh they're the fucking worst
they think they're fucking HBO
but they're not
um you know
they're the fucking they're the shit can of
of uh of uh
of uh pay TV
you impress you a little bit
after the
watch that fucking network i mean if you watch when they put on these boxing matches and shit
like 10 viewers watched um so yeah you got you got you got to stir up some fucking attention and
yeah did he impress you a little bit after the asking victory or not at all yes he knocked
asking out with one i'm not gonna lie too i thought it was fake when i saw it yeah i thought it
so did i trust me like i thought it like just the way it was but i think yeah they've always been
cool to us but they're taking it seriously i guess like i don't know what do you think
Do you think it would ever, is there any, how much would Jake Paul have to impress you to do any type of co-promotion or anything like that?
Well, the thing is with Jake Paul, he's never fought anybody his size, and he's never fought somebody who is actually a boxer.
You know what I mean?
He beat up a 40-something-year-old fucking NBA player who's 30 pounds lighter than him.
Then after that he fights Ascran, who's a rep, but I still thought Ascran should have been.
done better than he did um and and now now woodley what but woodley's like yeah like he's he's a
former ufc champ right a lighter way notice they're not the same weight class either no what's
another guy that's lighter yeah and but woodley's a real guy right he's a real guy yeah and
woodley's a wrestler but woodley can fucking punch of course so it's going to be interesting but let's not
forget. Woodley hasn't want to fight in three
fucking years, okay? He doesn't
want to fight in three years
and, you know,
he's 40 fucking years old.
So... Where do you see, though,
if it ever happened
where Jake Paul and Dana White's
like worlds could collide?
I just don't see it happen.
What if he goes on like a tear?
Like, what if he goes in like a real tear? I don't hate the kid.
Yeah. Is he fucking annoying? Yeah, he's
annoying. He's working, though. He's
doing the game. He's working. He's working. He's working.
100%
I agree
he's out there trying to make that money
so you don't think this ever
and his shelf life is very fucking short
so
what if he is right
what if he's like you know what if this kid
just came out of nowhere and he's actually just a good boxer
what if he goes on a tear and goes 10 and oh
he'd have to start fighting some boxers to prove that
you know what I mean
and I would imagine
that in the gym
he's trained with plenty of boxers
so there's a reason he's
not fighting boxers he wants to keep fighting these uh you know retired ufc fucking wrestler
guys they're definitely smart about it so you think it you think it'll ever happen where you
guys find a way to listen i never say never but i highly doubt it yeah highly doubt it and reason
being it's just not what i do right there's a market for that i mean he could fight a different
type of celebrity every week and there's going to be a segment of the population that wants to pay for that
and see it but that's not what i do i put the best against the best you're i mean you're
he's calling out connor he's calling out connor connor's a hundred forty five pound champion and
a hundred fifty five pound champion he's fucking way bigger than connor coming from the social
media side like that's what we do too like we know what jake's doing like he's obviously
a smart guy with social media like i know too like for him when he called out connor it's like
someone that for him to call up connor i even i was like bro that's ballsy so he's just he's doing it
for engagement and like, like, which is smart.
It's like, it's working, right before the Connor fight.
Well, I mean, look at it.
Everybody knows there's no possible chance that he would be Connor Gregory
to fight, right?
Right.
Zero, right?
Zero.
Zero percent chance.
So he's just doing what he's doing.
He's playing the game.
Which is smart.
So is what it is, you know?
What does Jake Paul wait?
200 pounds?
I don't know.
Do anybody know with Jake Paul?
He's got to be.
I'd say, I'd say, 215 is my guess.
215 is my guess.
He's a big boy.
he's a big dude he's not small they're all trying so everybody like he's trying to
i mean obviously this fight thing is like nuts like you see the tick tockers fighting they're
trying to all build these platforms did you see that fight the tickler like did you hear about it
no i i don't even know who those guys are yeah i think brys hall you know 190 yeah connor's
145 pounds he wants to fight 155 he wants to fight him you know what i mean it's just like
you know you think any of these things have like he's won like a six nine route bob who
jake paul kind of in a way like he's doing like crazy shit for in that's what he reminds me
is six nine. That's like he's doing
crazy Instagram videos that are
like, I know he's on the fucking level of Dana.
Yeah. But I think like as much as you hate or love Jake
Paul, I think Jake's done a pretty good job of
sparking some fucking, you know,
making some noise. You know, at the end of day.
But the other thing too is you notice, the media
isn't really following them as much as they did in the
beginning. It's getting, it helps
you get involved. It's getting, it's getting
old. You know what I mean?
He's eventually, for him
to really, I think for him to get the media
back, he's going to have to fight somebody.
Why do you lose the media?
Because they're tired of it.
They're tired of the shtick.
You know, hey, it's me.
I weigh 190 and I want to fight these guys that weigh 170, 155, one fucking whatever,
and they're wrestling, and they're 40 fucking years old,
and they haven't want to fight in three fucking years.
If he wants to be taken serious now by the real media,
I think he needs to fight a real fight.
How about Logan?
Yeah.
What do you think of the Mayweather?
Have you ever met Floyd Mayweather in person?
No, not in person, no.
He's fucking tiny.
man. Yeah. He's tiny and Logan's
fucking big too, but
again, I gotta give him. I thought
he did a good job of tying Floyd
up, you know, not letting
Floyd get off when he was.
And Floyd looked old that night
too. And Floyd, I think Floyd knew
he looked old that night.
Logan took some hits. The middle of the
fight, I thought he was going to knock him to fuck out. I thought Logan
did a fucking, everybody's like, oh, I love
I love him, but I wanted to see
Logan fucking drop. I love Logan's
going to drop him. Logan's a good kid.
I like him too.
I like him too.
He's cool.
I read something.
Did you call him or something?
I have no problem with him.
Yeah.
So he bought a bunch of tickets to the fight.
Yeah.
And the tickets he bought were not tickets he'd want to send in.
He was going to get fucking smashed.
Right.
So I put him over in another section.
Very nice gesture.
So you're not playing along with any of this stuff.
There's nothing going to behind the scenes that we know about that you guys are going to end up at the end up the end up the end up the end up the end up.
No.
Has he ever talked to you about it like a potential?
Logan?
no no we that's that's the only time we've ever talked was uh yeah was about the tickets
how many times is jakes i mean i want to stand this whole time but how many times jakes people
came to you and hit you up and called you and tried to set something up um in the beginning
uh when when he first started like leading up to the um the fight with uh ascran yeah
Dana probably hates the whole entire
fucking episode being talked about Jake Paul
but my favorite guy ever was
John Jones. John Jones is my favorite
fighter by far. Where has he been?
He's
not fighting until next year.
So what's going on with that? I mean, I'm just going to
fucking speak openly, whatever. Is he, you guys not getting along?
I mean, me and Jones have had a
you know, that type of a relationship his whole career.
He was so fucking good
and he was so fun to watch. That's the thing.
When he's ready to fight, we're ready to go.
So, you know, he's talking about fighting heavyweight,
but in the heavyweight division right now,
we're going back to Houston here in a couple weeks.
Derek Lewis has taken on Cyril Ghan for the interim championship.
Whoever wins that fight will fight Francis and Ganyu,
and then whoever wins that fight if John Jones wants to come back,
he could fight one of them,
or he could fight Stipe Mielchich.
Stipe has accepted that fight and will take that fight.
What is it? Is it a money thing? Is he like, I want, I deserve this, or how is it, why isn't it happening?
He's under contract. He has a contract. Okay. So he can do whatever he wants, or he could come back and fight it light heavyweight and regain his title if he wanted to try to do that. How about Khabib, do you think there's a chance? He ever fights again?
No, I think Khabib's really done. Really? Yeah. So, I don't know if you just saw last weekend. His boy Islam McIchev fought. And now he's ranked number five in the world. And he's not going to get in the way of his run now. His father wanted.
him to become a world champion too.
So I think Habib is, you know,
it was an interesting thing out.
He was,
Habib was 29 and O.
He's 5 in O now as a coach,
coaching guys.
So he's undefeated coaching too.
What was his reasoning behind retiring?
I think his mom didn't want him to fight anymore, right?
He's extremely fucking wealthy and he doesn't need to fight anymore.
What happened to that potential GSP fight?
It's out there.
You know, GSP wants it, he wants it?
I love GSP, man, back in the day.
Oh, except I'm from Toronto.
Canadian?
It's your boy.
I used to love GSP, bro.
But that'd be a crazy, like, that would cut some hype.
He's crazy.
I feel like he will fight again.
That's just my opinion.
I'm putting it out there.
When GSP was champ, like, 16.
I was like, grade eight, yeah.
UFC, what was the one where he fought Tiago Alves?
100?
Fuck out.
I think it's UFC 100.
Was it really?
Is that UFC 100?
I don't remember.
Was that the era when Jones hit Shogun with the spinning elbow?
Remember that big spinning elbow?
Yep.
That was a refus.
I mean, obviously, it's right now.
But you know unconscious.
Yeah.
That was refunned it.
I watched just one of my birthday, whatever it was.
UFC, GSP versus Tiago Alva, as I remember that.
Did you live in Toronto?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Toronto was badass and we finally got into Toronto.
You guys got to go back there after COVID?
Huh?
After COVID's like fucking washed up there.
Yeah, we got to go back to Toronto after COVID.
I don't know if COVID's ever going to fucking end in Toronto.
It's just crazy, dude.
You have to have a vaccine to get in there.
right is there what's what's what we did with variant coming out now is the variant
I'm just hoping they don't pull that bullshit now where it's like a second way I can't
fucking do it anymore I'm out I'm checking no I think after that everyone's going to be like
they're not going to believe it like every if there's a second wave I don't think anyone's
gonna buy it yeah no for the first month I'm gonna speak out about it here I'm fucking
fucking canned goods I shut down I stayed inside my house I think I you came out my little
game show or something I did an Instagram or something I shut that I was fucking
freaking the fuck out and then finally I'm like all right
enough is enough. And then the problem is you're just
brainwashing
so many people to just think this is the custom...
People are over it now, man.
You know, and then it's just, it's a fucking, it's a fucking joke,
but at the same time... I guess it's real.
We shut down for six weeks. We shut down for six weeks.
Crazy. Because it took me six weeks to figure it out.
I'm how to, you know, get it going.
So you're going to bring the UFC anywhere outside of you?
Went to Abu Dhabi. What's another big... You're going to go anywhere else?
Big?
We'll see how this thing plays out. We're supposed to go to London in September.
I'm here in London shutting down right now.
too i don't know if that's true um we're trying to find you know to verify if that's if that's true or
not i'm going to i'm going on vacation this friday i'm going to greece so i'm hearing the mechinoos
just shut down so it's going to be i'm on a boat so i don't give a fuck whatever shuts down
you know but it would nice it would be nice for it all to be open i want to show you this
picture of of a shirt we're selling i saw that that's from the fight no i saw that it's awesome
The Trump
2024?
I sent it to Trump,
Kushner, and John Jr.
They say anything?
Yeah.
Did they say anything?
That's going to go crazy.
That's going to go fucking nuts.
That's awesome.
Steve's a wild man, huh?
What's your take on Steve?
I love Steve.
Steve's one of the nicest fucking kids.
He's a great guy.
On the planet.
He's such a good person.
And, you know, he's one of those guys
when you become friends with him.
He'd do anything for you.
100%.
Which he has 100%.
fucking loves Kyle you know it's it let me tell you what don't ever fuck that up no
when you when you have a when you're in a business relationship and you're as close as you
and Steve are it's like how Lorenzo and I were yeah you know and the one thing that you
got to fuck money fuck all that shit keep keep your friendship
tight not we got to go we got each other's backs real people real people are hard
to find and he's the real deal and so are you so how's the
the holler head real quick. It's doing good.
Everything's good, yeah.
I see that fucking everywhere now.
Yeah. You're going to see it even more places
when we're blowing the shit out of that thing.
Yeah, it's fucking nuts. It's going pretty good.
I know that these guys have helped you out with that.
You guys have both been pumping each other up.
We've both pumping each other.
Pretty good combo here.
Pretty good combo.
Don't know who's out of it.
Pretty good.
Like spaghetti meatball, these two, I tell you, you know?
But I drop the mic and just walk out, then I leave.
That's it, you know?
I mean, hats off to you, bro.
You're one of the coolest, chillest guys.
You've done so much for both of us.
100%. You're the man and take care
of good care of us. We always get your guy. One thing I'm going to ask Dan, is how
long you think you'll be involved in the UFC?
You think you're going to do it for a long
more time? Yeah, I just can't
you know, I don't want to do
anything else. I can't fucking picture
I can't picture me not doing
this. Why would I not want to do it?
It's fucking cool, man. Stay in the nicest fucking hotels
in the world, eating the best restaurants
and sit in the best seats in the place for the best
fights in the world every fucking Saturday.
UFC is just the coolest company. I think you might
You might have worse. Do you sleep ever? I mean, you're always up on that shit too.
I have sleep issues. I got serious sleep issues. So do I.
What are your sleep issues? I never bothered me when I was younger, and now that I'm getting older, it's fucking me up.
Meaning sleep issues, what you just stay up?
I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow for fucking sleep study. Yeah. I'm doing a sleep study tomorrow morning.
They're going to hook you up the machines and everything?
Yeah, they're going to hook me up and I got to go to sleep over there and I can't sleep at my house. How the fuck am I going to sleep over here?
Yeah, no shit. That's going to be interesting.
A lot to be a fly on the wall on that one.
Yeah.
Cool.
I think that was good.
Anyways.
First episode of the full-send podcast.
Thank you, Dana.
Pleasure, brother.
Thanks for having me.
Bob.
The Godfather right here.
You're going to stay with me or what?
I mean, look, if you're willing to have me here.
This is, this is.
You want to mark off two hours of every schedule that you have, every fucking, you know what I mean?
Yeah, it'll be there.
I don't want to call Delta Airlines, but I will say, not my fault.
That's it.
You know, remember that, everybody.
Who do you think we should bring on?
Who do you think we should bring on next episode?
I kind of like
You think
Man, I think
Dana could ever make a move
And I mean, you guys get along so well now
I mean Donald Trump might be an option
We'll see how the views get
I mean it's got to be a big platform
Dana knows how to push it
I think you put
Let's have the proof of concept first
Right now you think you could if
I mean maybe I step back
Let's somebody else
You think you could get Trump on the show for him
Sure
Let's get the proof of concept going first
Me and Dana will talk
We have a slightly better relationship
I'm well aware. I'm backpedaled out of this thing. I'm backpedal.
We know how to get shit done, you know?
I'm out. That's all I'll say.
You're the best, buddy. I love you.
Thanks, Dana. You're the fucking man.
Appreciate it, bro.
All right.
See you guys next time.