FULL SEND PODCAST - Dana White x Nelk Boys | Ep. 1

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So episode one of the full said podcast, Kyle is crazy enough to give me a chance here to take the lead with Kyle and our first guest, none other than Dana White. And then he's two hours late. By the way, not my fault. Time out. By the way, that was not my fault. The fucking plane broke. I was sitting there. We talked to Dana, I think, what, 1.30?
Starting point is 00:00:19 I was, listen to me, it was one o'clock. I was there at the airport at 8 a.m. the fucking plane broke and I had to switch off. So it wasn't my fault for once. It is well documented. He has it all over his Instagram. Anyway, real quickly, though, I have to say this. I don't mean to jump the ship. I know it's the full send podcast.
Starting point is 00:00:33 Kyle's laid. How do you guys know each other? My son introduced us. Really? Yeah. Nice. Interesting. Me and Dana Jr. met up at a bar and stuff, and then me and Dana just developed a good relationship.
Starting point is 00:00:47 Do you guys, do you remember, though, truthfully, what I called you about this game? Yeah. I do. It was six during the morning. No, I always give credit to Bob. I was in Maine. I was in my place up in Maine, and you FaceTime me, and you were with Kyle. How long ago was that?
Starting point is 00:00:59 No, that's not how it went. No, I was by myself. No, I was by myself when that happened. I said, Dana, these guys are going to be good for the U.S. I'm not trying to take credit here, but I really did hear about these guys from my son. My son turned me on to these guys, and then fate may have it. You called me one night with Kyle. You were on FaceTime, and you called me with Kyle.
Starting point is 00:01:22 And that was how it got started. And your kids went fucking nuts. Nuts. But our first real interaction where we all got to be in the same room was Fight Island, the first one, in Abu Dhabi. Yeah. But you had Fight Island come around the first time, right? That was at the heart of COVID? Yeah, what's the question?
Starting point is 00:01:38 The first time, Fight Island, you were supposed to launch Fight Island, right? And it got disrupted, didn't it, because of the whole COVID scare? No, no, no. Fight Island was created because of COVID. That's how it started. And then I think when you guys went, that was the second time I had been there. I was already there for a stint. Then I went back.
Starting point is 00:01:57 You were there for like eight minutes. Right. And then, uh... I built quick. I was so fucking paranoid. Oh, I mean, I'm gonna lie about it. I pushed you out. I was there for eight minutes.
Starting point is 00:02:08 And then flew 17 hours, but actually more because you went to Boston. That lie gets so deep. It was like 22 hours. Do you regret that or no? No, not at all. I think like, I did my job. I said,
Starting point is 00:02:17 like, did you actually think that like we would risk everything and like do some shit with like the Abu Dhabi people and like do a prank that would fuck a relationship, up relationship about the date and the U.S. The first fucking thing that happens
Starting point is 00:02:29 when we go off the plane is Saleem walks up and is a girl all in robes Salim walks up to her and gives her
Starting point is 00:02:35 a fucking hug. Now isn't that frowned upon in that country? Yeah. Oh, he shook her hand. Sorry,
Starting point is 00:02:40 because he's Muslim too. So I think he's like You can shake her hand. I mean, you don't want to be hugging women you don't know anywhere,
Starting point is 00:02:47 let alone in the Middle East but, uh, yeah. Listen, they were excited that they were coming. It wasn't,
Starting point is 00:02:55 they were well prepped on who was coming and what they do. I think they're watching our every move and stuff like that. I mean, they had to have been, of course. I mean, you guys are a big deal. And I have a couple of friends over there. And so, I mean, I just got some messages who were like, look, they don't fuck around over here.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Now, I know you're protected by the big man, but. So were, like, were you like, sketching out before you were so fucking paranoid at that place. Because, like, why not just tap out when we were quarantining in the Vegas motel? He was close. I could tell by the video. Like, why not tap out there? I could tell by the videos. I was very, very close tapping out.
Starting point is 00:03:24 But I figured I have to go over there. hold your hand make sure you guys know it introduce you guys and then fly away that was it you were somebody during you know the heart of the pandemic that was like fuck it you know i'm going all out i don't give a fuck and correct me if i'm wrong you know we're going full speed you know we're every other sport and i talked to a lot of people that were pretty high up that said dana is making the biggest mistake of his fucking life this is the dumbest thing you can do he's going to fucking cripple the UFC. And what amazes me is the fact that you said, no, fuck that.
Starting point is 00:03:56 What was the decision making behind being so aggressive during COVID? Yeah, because I, you know, there's my, I've never had the mentality to fucking run and hide. You know what I mean? You figure out solutions to problems. Hiding is never a solution to a problem. Hiding in your house for a year, laying off 30 to 35% of your employees who've been with me for 10 years plus. Some have been here for almost 20 years, and I'm just going to lay them off, right?
Starting point is 00:04:26 You want to know why I think people are having, some of these businesses are having a hard time getting people back to work, because a lot of these people are like, fuck you. When the shit hit the fan, you fucking cut my throat. You fucking, you know, when your family needs it the most, right? A pandemic is going on.
Starting point is 00:04:47 There's so much uncertainty of what's going to happen in the future. and what do you do the first thing you do is fucking cut me loose i've been with you for fucking 10 years 20 years whatever it is that's an option that's a fucking option that's never an option for me my thing was i'll give up my salary and my bonus and whatever else i got coming to me this year and we won't lay off any employees and if this doesn't work well at least i tried at least i could i can look my people in the face and not just my employees my fighters And say, I tried. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:23 I just felt like I shouldn't try. And I took the easy route and I just fucking cut all you people loose and let you go. Who the fuck? You know what I mean? And then you want to call yourself a leader, right? Like you said, you talked to a lot of people that were high up that said he's doing the dumbest fucking thing you could ever do. I disagree. Right.
Starting point is 00:05:42 I think they did the dumbest thing they could ever fucking do. Right. Which is cutting your people's fucking throats. That is something that I will never do. We'll all go down together. None of us will fucking go down. When do you think it's going to end? Because I saw in L.A. too.
Starting point is 00:05:55 Now, you know, we live in O.C. They're bringing back the mask mandate in L.A. County now, again. Like, they removed it, and now it's like, they're talking about a second wave type shit again. Listen, this shit is like the flu. It's not going away. It's going to be here.
Starting point is 00:06:10 So what are we going to do? We're going to shut down every time the flu pops up, and I'm not saying that this is like the flu. You know, I'm saying it's like the flu. and that it's going to keep coming back. And just like anything else in life, cancer, heart attacks, fucking the flu, some shit's going to get us,
Starting point is 00:06:29 and some shit, you know, some of us will get it and some of us won't. And that's life. You can't shut down the fucking world and stop everything. And the ones that I feel sorry is for are the kids, these kids that, you know,
Starting point is 00:06:45 trying to go to school through this and mass and homeschooling and, you know, It's just, it's wrong, man. This whole thing is being done the wrong way. Was there every moment when you were like, I'm making the wrong decision? No, no, but I'm not going to lie.
Starting point is 00:07:01 It was so fucking hard at some points. I was like, what am I doing? Listen, it would have been really easy to kick back in my house. Right, and just shut it down. And do nothing for a while. Right. But when is the easy route ever the route to take?
Starting point is 00:07:15 You know what I mean? Because the truth is, in the beginning, when this thing first, If this thing was as deadly as everybody said it was going to be, we're fucked anywhere. Yeah, it's fucked. Right. But it's not. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:07:29 We would have been fucked. You know? And I'm going to be the dude that's going to go down fucking swinging. I'm not going to go hide, fire everybody and fucking, you know, go hide my big fat house and come out, you know, a year later or whatever the deal is. That's something we caught a shit ton of flak for too. Because remember when, I don't know if you remember when you called me one time, but we got in a ton of shit. We got in a ton of shit because, like, people don't, like, think, but, like, we're, like, a business just like anyone else, too. So when COVID started, we tried to, like, make videos around the house or not travel, but, like, we had to end up, like, traveling and, like, continuing to do our thing, too.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And then we got, like, a shit ton of news in the media for, like, traveling during COVID and stuff like that. And YouTube threatened to delete our channel and shit. So it's, like, it's tough. Like, but we have to do the same thing. It's like, you can't just shut down because it's, like, we need to make money. We need to keep funding this operation. like we got people to pay right i don't think people get that though people that depend on you people that depend on you for a fucking paycheck and you're you're going to stay the course no matter what
Starting point is 00:08:26 same stuff going down in the world you're going to say the course 100% well i feel like we're kind of passed it now i know what to expect now i'm ready for whatever they got so how does how does a deal go down with something like an abu dhabi deal so how did that whole thing transpire why abu dhabi well i've had a relationship with them for 12 years so um abu dhabi's been a big part of the UFC and they were they were an investor early on you know when we sold in 16 they cashed out too so um we we had we had been very close to them uh they're very progressive very smart and uh they were all about it you know and we we literally built the best bubble that existed during COVID was over there in Abu Dhabi the best bubble that was insane that we
Starting point is 00:09:15 right that was not the two you missed out a lot but yeah yeah you missed that a lot but we were treated like kings it was awesome like me and Steve were like this is fucked like Dana you could tell on your Dana's gas like what was your highlight of the trip what was your favorite part of the trip the hospitality level
Starting point is 00:09:31 at that place is beyond belief I mean everything is brand new the hotels are all beautiful and dialed in restaurants are incredible the best of the best restaurants the best of the best everything and the services over the top Their goal is to just show their country off
Starting point is 00:09:49 and to have people want to go to Abu Dhabi is the overall reason why they would kind of bring the UFC there? Well, no, I mean, listen, it's like any other city. What city doesn't want events? Everybody wants events. London, New York, Paris. It's all about events. That's every city, not just Abu Dhabi.
Starting point is 00:10:05 So, Dana, let me ask for something. Bob always pitches me. One thing he wants to do is he wants to be like a liaison between the milk boys and the Middle East. So he always tells me He calls me and says, Kyle, I want to broker a deal between you and the people in the Middle East
Starting point is 00:10:21 for the Nelk Boys to come do tourism around the Middle East. Do you think I should trust them and let him be the broker? Is he going to show up? I think you might want Dana to take the lead on this. How long do you should show up for? He's terrified to go to the middle. You know what, though?
Starting point is 00:10:39 Bob is like, you know, 99% of the people in the United States. They have this, you know, they have this idea of what it's like in the Middle East and that it's scary. And if you go over there and you don't follow the rule, you don't do this and you don't do that. There are places in the Middle East that are like that. Abu Dhabi and Dubai are not like that. It's very normal. L.A. is more dangerous than Abu Dhabi.
Starting point is 00:11:01 I never felt safer than when I was in Abu Dhabi. So true. Was there rumors to do anything with Saudi Arabia? Were you going to do anything with that over there? Saudi Arabia is doing a lot of stuff in combat sports too. but no I have an exclusive deal with I'll be with Abu Dhabi till the day I die Nice I remember that too I didn't think of it
Starting point is 00:11:18 But when we first got invited Everyone was telling us you guys can't go You can't drink you can't swear You can't do this, you can't do that You can't do that You were protected by the big man Not just you're not true None of that shit's nothing to do with me
Starting point is 00:11:30 It has nothing to do with me First of all I know I know Obama and Dubai in Dubai in Dubai very safe Two of the days those guys went out Went to places I never even fucking heard They had a gunman around Every fucking daughter at every turn
Starting point is 00:11:41 They went to places I never even heard of it. That one part outside day club that they're at that one day when they were walking around with the belt I saw it all. Trust me. I so sit in my fucking parents' bedroom watching from the other fucking side of the world. Literally there was nobody on that plane too. When I went home there was like
Starting point is 00:11:56 four people on that flight. 17 hours out of it. Listen, whoever goes over to Abu Dhabi or Dubai they take care of them. No, it was beautiful. The place, the service and the way that you're treated over there is unfucking believable. It's incredible. And you left two random guys there too. You left your assistant. I love my assistant.
Starting point is 00:12:12 And you left some guy... Listen, I was right along the whole way. I said, Aaron, worked for me for a year, okay? Work your ass off. But you left... You brought some guy that you met two weeks ago. A higher entity that's going to take you from here. I'm the fucking connector.
Starting point is 00:12:22 I'm the middleman. So what was the thing that was going on in Boston that you thought I was behind fucking with you? Oh, I had. Dude, I have a serious, like, serious stalker situation. Is that... Girl, I told you, I was like in the fucking movie Saw. I had some lady delivered cookies.
Starting point is 00:12:38 I had some dude... It was like nuts. The whole situation. I was getting fucked with. buy somebody and I'm still not convinced it's not you too if they were delivering shit to you why how's that you fucking with you? No it was a whole sequence of events
Starting point is 00:12:49 I can't explain it right now it was just all different shit somebody was fucked with me that's all the meeting in the Chinese restaurant that was another separate deal that I had to kind of help I mean I do a lot of different things you know whether it be you know helping the UFC in major ways by bringing like these young YouTubers and you know bring them to you and saying hey
Starting point is 00:13:05 this is going to work you know these are young guys that you want around your sport you know and hey look at you guys now by the way how is the uh the fights you two the uh amazing the fights the big one that fight was the sickest weekend my birthday weekend too wow we sat right behind trump wow beber was there machine gun kelly megan fox who else cordney cardassian yeah only the uh elite of the elite mel gibson was at the end of your row no was he there yeah he was to the left of shit that was insane dude you had my kids went on the other side of my kids yeah mel Gibson
Starting point is 00:13:40 And those tickets were at $250K a pop? So the tickets where you guys were sitting, two sold for $250,000. Combined together. Bro, that arena was electric. It was awesome, wasn't it? That was one of the craziest moments of my life. So you think the UFC right now is an all-time peak? 100%.
Starting point is 00:13:58 You guys are fucking murdering. Yeah. I mean, that was, the Porriere-McGregor fight was the second biggest UFC fight of all time, the number one being Kabeb and Connor. And, yeah, the fan base is bigger since we went through COVID, you know, social media. I mean, every way you can measure and gauge your business were bigger than we were before the pandemic started. So what do you attribute that to, just the whole being aggressive during COVID when every other sports shut down? Nobody had anything to watch but you?
Starting point is 00:14:28 Yeah, yeah, 100%. You know, a lot of people got, one of the big things that happened for us during COVID was gamblers. you know they couldn't gamble on any other things baseball basketball football horse racing or any of that shit so they started betting on uh on ufc yeah that was big for us and so was uh you know the fact that nothing else was on so so real good back about when you really think back to the to the heart of the pandemic right in the middle of it i mean there was fucking nothing to do that was absolutely awesome nothing on tv no new movies were coming out no new tv shows were coming
Starting point is 00:15:05 out. You know, if you think about it, you know, three to four to five new movies come out every single weekend, you know, in normal life. Nothing. No, everything shut down. It was scary. No sports. You started to realize how important live sporting events really are to you and what they mean to you, you know. And how many people in your circle came to you, and I mean to keep beating dead horse, but came to you and said, you're making a mistake. Yeah, you listened to the beginning with the uh with with my um executives we had a uh we had a we had a we had a little rough go at it and in the beginning and then once everybody knew that i was dead set on doing this everybody was on board how do you like push through that shit like when all the media like
Starting point is 00:15:47 comes because i don't give a fuck about the media the media are all full of shit think about this right because covid was like different it was like and it still is it's like if you don't obey covid and the way society wants you to like play with covid like they come for you like I actually want to know because I deal with that too how do you have the balls to push you that
Starting point is 00:16:07 because I don't give a fuck I don't give a fuck when you look at these media people who the fuck are they what have they ever done what have they ever accomplished what are these people ever built or done nothing
Starting point is 00:16:21 fucking zero less than zero you know their opinion means jack shit to me if I listen to the media from day one wouldn't be where we are today you gotta block all that noise out man block it out
Starting point is 00:16:35 and you really seriously have to get to a point you will as you do this more and you get older it'll get to a point where you literally don't give a fuck you know it's scary for us though now is like two years ago it used to just be all about your fans so if we did something or we said something that was like controversial
Starting point is 00:16:52 it'd be up to our fans like whether they'd cancel us or not or not fuck with us but now when you're dealing with these like liberal ass platforms like YouTube, Instagram, like when we did that whole COVID traveling through COVID shit, YouTube sent us like a manual email, which they never do. It's always like automized. But it was like manual and they said, you guys got to watch your off platform responsibility. And they basically threatened to delete our channel.
Starting point is 00:17:16 So now it's different. Like when you're relying on YouTube, we got to like, if you don't play by the liberal-ass rules now, it's like they'll just delete you. Like look what they didn't do Trump or like that's what you're playing by. It's like you're not even like our fans don't give a. fuck like we can say whatever we want do whatever we want they'll always be there but YouTube it's like you're like
Starting point is 00:17:35 you're playing by their rules now 100% that's what's scary about it for us now yeah it's true and uh you know as time goes on there will be more platforms for you to uh that's what we need to yeah yeah
Starting point is 00:17:50 it's it's got to happen are you uh are you happy with the whole way the McGregor fight turned out as far as I mean what's a perfect outcome for you guys for business however listen whoever wins wins we put on you know fights with the best fighters in the world and whoever wins wins and you know you move on you know he won now he'll fight for dust emporio will fight for the title you know conner's going to heal up and uh hopefully come back in a year and you know a lot of things will change
Starting point is 00:18:24 in the next year while connor's gone so see where the what the world looks like when connor honor comes back and figure out what he does next what his leg just gave out is that what happened was like broke i mean i was sorry i didn't have a chance to watch the fight i didn't give out it broke you get to make that one i missed out on that sorry my apologies i would have been there but how did you not how did you don't watch all they might have caused a little stir the last one so uh my apologies there on that one too watch it i know i did watch i was at a bar i was going to say you bet 66 000 on porre i did it did listen we don't put numbers on this thing for god's sake but i made the biggest bet i ever made my life on porier and
Starting point is 00:18:59 Don't what? Don't put the numbers out. No, that's it. That's dumb. You'll take a fucking DM I send you and post it on fucking... I never post it a bad one. What's the... What's the biggest... Did you bet you've ever made? Is there an extra happy dad, do you?
Starting point is 00:19:14 Yeah, take it. What's the biggest bet you've ever made, though? Is there an extra happy dad in there? Oh, fuck. The biggest bet you're a one... Yeah. A million dollars. Really? Yeah, I bet a million dollars. You bet a million dollars or just mostly cards?
Starting point is 00:19:23 No, I fucking hate betting sports. I hate it. Hate it, hate it. I, um... remember germane taylor no the boxer good looking fucking kid
Starting point is 00:19:34 came up uh i think he came up through the olympics and actually married the uh the volleyball player um he fought that white kid from fucking uh where the fuck is that kid from i want to say he's from cleveland
Starting point is 00:19:50 and i thought jermaine taylor was going to fucking kill him germane taylor got destroyed that was your million dollar bet for a million bucks and you lost i was in Cabo. Yeah, I was in Cabo, relax and having fun fucking. That was the end of the fun. Fucking ruin my whole trip.
Starting point is 00:20:06 You black check? Will you play blackjack? Yeah, yeah. I play blackjack all the time. But sports betting, I stopped doing it. It's too hard. It's too. I fucking hate it. It's not. Do you see the Addison Ray shit at the Trump fight? Did you see all the backlash stuff from that? I called her. Oh, you did? I said, fuck them. Wait, what happened? I wasn't know for that. What happened? So,
Starting point is 00:20:25 yeah, I guess it was kind of our fault, too. People got mad us a little bit. But we're sitting right behind Trump at the fight and then we were so surprised because like all these TikTok girls and like all these influencer girls in L.A., not saying Addison did it, but like when Biden won they were literally like
Starting point is 00:20:42 posting stories of them crying in the streets of Hollywood. Like they were so happy like, you know how it is. So Addison walks up right past us and she taps Trump on the shoulder, not even like an off time, right in one of the middle of like the fights or like I don't even think it was the middle of the round. She said a little one? She said
Starting point is 00:20:58 hi to Trump. So we were like, Addison Ray just said hi to Trump. Like Oh yeah, you guys definitely fuck this turned out. I mean, we got it. Like, Steve said Trump's going to fuck her and shit. But like, we were just surprised. So like, we kind of put that in our video, obviously, right that. And she was getting a ton of backlash for it. Yeah. And she's a good kid. She's a nice
Starting point is 00:21:16 kid. Yeah. And I called her and said, listen. Who the fuck cares? Who gives a fuck? Who gives a fuck? You'll learn that as you go. She's kind of nude all this stuff, right? What's your, you're obviously been a big, you just spoke with the Republican National Convention about you? I saw you, you posted something and you're putting out.
Starting point is 00:21:32 What are you talking about? Yeah, I'll tell you what I'm talking about. You posted the thing about the mask of the Uber. And the Instagram took it down. Trust me, I stand by my shit. No, I did not delete anything. You fucking believe it. I never fucking delete anything.
Starting point is 00:21:45 There's no way they took it down. Where did you post? I posted something where I, and I still say it right here. I don't know what the fuck's going on the Uber thing. When I get an Uber, you got to wear a fucking mask. He's in an Uber. He's like, why do I have to wear a mask? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:56 And basically, all he said was our mask really a thing. We got to wear a mask and an Uber. And then he said that Uber's controlling you, he said to the driver, Uber's controlling you. Which is kind of crazy. I just don't get this. I don't get like... And then everybody went crazy. It didn't go the way he thought it was going to go. They started going after him.
Starting point is 00:22:12 And he deleted that shit. It went exactly the way I thought it was going to happen. Everything was playing up to plan. And then Instagram took it down unfortunately, which is just, you know... Did you ever hesitate to, like, publicly support Trump? I know you guys had a long relationship. When you did it... I spoke of the National Convention. I spoke at the Republican...
Starting point is 00:22:27 convention twice and many other rallies for Trump you know listen man this is America you vote for who the fuck you want to vote for you know what I mean and everybody wants to label you you're a fucking racist you're a piece of shit you're you know you hate everybody if you're for Trump you know which everybody knows you know at the end of the day I know exactly who the fuck I am and exactly you know what i do for people and and whatever i don't give a flying fuck what any of these other people think doesn't matter to me when we did that like i i had a few girls from l.a that just like straight unfollowed me like right when i did that like they're just like there's no excuse for like that
Starting point is 00:23:12 like you you can't see a lot and especially canada like i have a lot of friends back home in canada is like fucking communist at this point now so it's like when they saw that like even my mom was like what the fuck like you you were with trump like yeah just like people are very like they've done a great job of flipping the whole thing that if you're for trump you you're just you're for hate and you don't like you know other people and whatever the deal is did he call you go to the fighter did you ask you invite him there yeah no they reached out and said he was going to come nice he doesn't have to ask he just fucking says i'm coming yeah now i didn't see him though was he he wasn't on the ufc on paperview he didn't get shown why was there was a decision making behind
Starting point is 00:23:50 that. So what happened was there's all these conspiracies about that. Don't pivot out of this. Don't pivot out of it. ESPN didn't want to show them. And then there was the ESPN didn't want to show them and then what was the big one. Another big conspiracy on what happened.
Starting point is 00:24:07 So it's the co-made event. Right in between the co-made event and the main event, we're getting ready to fucking show Trump. It was going to go OBJ 2 chains
Starting point is 00:24:23 Spade Trump and according to my guy in the truck something went wrong with one of the machines so the first thing I said seems like a big mistake of machine
Starting point is 00:24:38 to happen with the former president of the United States there so this is this is Saturday so my guy calls and says we're going to show the video of you and Trump walking in the arena instead of doing a still of him out there and said, cool, whatever. So I thought it aired
Starting point is 00:24:54 because he called me and said that's what's going on. I find out Sunday it didn't air. Now, you've got to remember, too. We hire 150, at least 150 people that come in and work production for us that aren't full-time employees here. So you know the first
Starting point is 00:25:13 thing I said is one of those fucking guys did this on purpose so that that went there we dove into it and allegedly it wasn't done on purpose
Starting point is 00:25:27 but we saw the beginning of OBJ and they held on them for a long time then they're saying something went wrong so none of those other celebrities
Starting point is 00:25:37 got shown including Trump and yeah and that's what happened what do you think it is with the media like why
Starting point is 00:25:44 why are they so like against like Trump in that side like is it about money is it about like i don't know it's a good question i mean i mean if you look at the things that trump did while he was in there listen should trump have stayed off twitter more yes absolutely yeah uh did trump say some crazy things here and there yes he did but he did a lot of good things while he was president um and i i don't know problem is i don't know when they started when they started going man it it it if fucking escalated quickly. But you guys obviously have UFC fans
Starting point is 00:26:20 that are on both sides of the fence, right? Yeah, both sides. So at the end of the day, you guys got to sit back and say, does this divide our audience and does it take away from it'll pissing people off by putting them on there? You know, but say, I mean, for instance, putting him on the big screen. I'm the president of the United States. Yeah. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:26:34 He was the president of the United States, and he's at the event. Of course we're going to fucking show him. Right. You know, if Obama came, we'd fucking show Obama. If Jimmy Carter came, we'd fucking show Jimmy Carter. Chances of Biden are of hitting you up to come to a U.S. I don't see that happening.
Starting point is 00:26:51 I don't think he watched the U.S.C. But you know what I mean? He's the former president of the United States. We would show any former president of the United States, you know? You know, you know you're getting, you get to be a little bit hot here is when you got people fucking with you on the internet. And I see there's a guy, Jake Paul, fucking with you. Is he own real estate in your head? Oh, no. Listen, that's all part of the business.
Starting point is 00:27:12 You know, you want to get noticed? you want to stir up some shit start a fight with me that that I mean that's how you do it right you know um he's on fucking showtime what they're gonna fucking you know what I mean showtime is like the fucking
Starting point is 00:27:28 the fucking bottom of the barrel are they in the shits though oh they're the fucking worst they think they're fucking HBO but they're not um you know they're the fucking they're the shit can of of uh of uh
Starting point is 00:27:42 of uh pay TV you impress you a little bit after the watch that fucking network i mean if you watch when they put on these boxing matches and shit like 10 viewers watched um so yeah you got you got you got to stir up some fucking attention and yeah did he impress you a little bit after the asking victory or not at all yes he knocked asking out with one i'm not gonna lie too i thought it was fake when i saw it yeah i thought it so did i trust me like i thought it like just the way it was but i think yeah they've always been
Starting point is 00:28:11 cool to us but they're taking it seriously i guess like i don't know what do you think Do you think it would ever, is there any, how much would Jake Paul have to impress you to do any type of co-promotion or anything like that? Well, the thing is with Jake Paul, he's never fought anybody his size, and he's never fought somebody who is actually a boxer. You know what I mean? He beat up a 40-something-year-old fucking NBA player who's 30 pounds lighter than him. Then after that he fights Ascran, who's a rep, but I still thought Ascran should have been. done better than he did um and and now now woodley what but woodley's like yeah like he's he's a former ufc champ right a lighter way notice they're not the same weight class either no what's
Starting point is 00:28:59 another guy that's lighter yeah and but woodley's a real guy right he's a real guy yeah and woodley's a wrestler but woodley can fucking punch of course so it's going to be interesting but let's not forget. Woodley hasn't want to fight in three fucking years, okay? He doesn't want to fight in three years and, you know, he's 40 fucking years old. So... Where do you see, though,
Starting point is 00:29:27 if it ever happened where Jake Paul and Dana White's like worlds could collide? I just don't see it happen. What if he goes on like a tear? Like, what if he goes in like a real tear? I don't hate the kid. Yeah. Is he fucking annoying? Yeah, he's annoying. He's working, though. He's
Starting point is 00:29:42 doing the game. He's working. He's working. He's working. 100% I agree he's out there trying to make that money so you don't think this ever and his shelf life is very fucking short so what if he is right
Starting point is 00:29:55 what if he's like you know what if this kid just came out of nowhere and he's actually just a good boxer what if he goes on a tear and goes 10 and oh he'd have to start fighting some boxers to prove that you know what I mean and I would imagine that in the gym he's trained with plenty of boxers
Starting point is 00:30:11 so there's a reason he's not fighting boxers he wants to keep fighting these uh you know retired ufc fucking wrestler guys they're definitely smart about it so you think it you think it'll ever happen where you guys find a way to listen i never say never but i highly doubt it yeah highly doubt it and reason being it's just not what i do right there's a market for that i mean he could fight a different type of celebrity every week and there's going to be a segment of the population that wants to pay for that and see it but that's not what i do i put the best against the best you're i mean you're he's calling out connor he's calling out connor connor's a hundred forty five pound champion and
Starting point is 00:30:53 a hundred fifty five pound champion he's fucking way bigger than connor coming from the social media side like that's what we do too like we know what jake's doing like he's obviously a smart guy with social media like i know too like for him when he called out connor it's like someone that for him to call up connor i even i was like bro that's ballsy so he's just he's doing it for engagement and like, like, which is smart. It's like, it's working, right before the Connor fight. Well, I mean, look at it. Everybody knows there's no possible chance that he would be Connor Gregory
Starting point is 00:31:22 to fight, right? Right. Zero, right? Zero. Zero percent chance. So he's just doing what he's doing. He's playing the game. Which is smart.
Starting point is 00:31:28 So is what it is, you know? What does Jake Paul wait? 200 pounds? I don't know. Do anybody know with Jake Paul? He's got to be. I'd say, I'd say, 215 is my guess. 215 is my guess.
Starting point is 00:31:41 He's a big boy. he's a big dude he's not small they're all trying so everybody like he's trying to i mean obviously this fight thing is like nuts like you see the tick tockers fighting they're trying to all build these platforms did you see that fight the tickler like did you hear about it no i i don't even know who those guys are yeah i think brys hall you know 190 yeah connor's 145 pounds he wants to fight 155 he wants to fight him you know what i mean it's just like you know you think any of these things have like he's won like a six nine route bob who jake paul kind of in a way like he's doing like crazy shit for in that's what he reminds me
Starting point is 00:32:12 is six nine. That's like he's doing crazy Instagram videos that are like, I know he's on the fucking level of Dana. Yeah. But I think like as much as you hate or love Jake Paul, I think Jake's done a pretty good job of sparking some fucking, you know, making some noise. You know, at the end of day. But the other thing too is you notice, the media
Starting point is 00:32:28 isn't really following them as much as they did in the beginning. It's getting, it helps you get involved. It's getting, it's getting old. You know what I mean? He's eventually, for him to really, I think for him to get the media back, he's going to have to fight somebody. Why do you lose the media?
Starting point is 00:32:44 Because they're tired of it. They're tired of the shtick. You know, hey, it's me. I weigh 190 and I want to fight these guys that weigh 170, 155, one fucking whatever, and they're wrestling, and they're 40 fucking years old, and they haven't want to fight in three fucking years. If he wants to be taken serious now by the real media, I think he needs to fight a real fight.
Starting point is 00:33:03 How about Logan? Yeah. What do you think of the Mayweather? Have you ever met Floyd Mayweather in person? No, not in person, no. He's fucking tiny. man. Yeah. He's tiny and Logan's fucking big too, but
Starting point is 00:33:15 again, I gotta give him. I thought he did a good job of tying Floyd up, you know, not letting Floyd get off when he was. And Floyd looked old that night too. And Floyd, I think Floyd knew he looked old that night. Logan took some hits. The middle of the
Starting point is 00:33:32 fight, I thought he was going to knock him to fuck out. I thought Logan did a fucking, everybody's like, oh, I love I love him, but I wanted to see Logan fucking drop. I love Logan's going to drop him. Logan's a good kid. I like him too. I like him too. He's cool.
Starting point is 00:33:45 I read something. Did you call him or something? I have no problem with him. Yeah. So he bought a bunch of tickets to the fight. Yeah. And the tickets he bought were not tickets he'd want to send in. He was going to get fucking smashed.
Starting point is 00:33:58 Right. So I put him over in another section. Very nice gesture. So you're not playing along with any of this stuff. There's nothing going to behind the scenes that we know about that you guys are going to end up at the end up the end up the end up the end up the end up. No. Has he ever talked to you about it like a potential? Logan?
Starting point is 00:34:12 no no we that's that's the only time we've ever talked was uh yeah was about the tickets how many times is jakes i mean i want to stand this whole time but how many times jakes people came to you and hit you up and called you and tried to set something up um in the beginning uh when when he first started like leading up to the um the fight with uh ascran yeah Dana probably hates the whole entire fucking episode being talked about Jake Paul but my favorite guy ever was John Jones. John Jones is my favorite
Starting point is 00:34:49 fighter by far. Where has he been? He's not fighting until next year. So what's going on with that? I mean, I'm just going to fucking speak openly, whatever. Is he, you guys not getting along? I mean, me and Jones have had a you know, that type of a relationship his whole career. He was so fucking good
Starting point is 00:35:09 and he was so fun to watch. That's the thing. When he's ready to fight, we're ready to go. So, you know, he's talking about fighting heavyweight, but in the heavyweight division right now, we're going back to Houston here in a couple weeks. Derek Lewis has taken on Cyril Ghan for the interim championship. Whoever wins that fight will fight Francis and Ganyu, and then whoever wins that fight if John Jones wants to come back,
Starting point is 00:35:33 he could fight one of them, or he could fight Stipe Mielchich. Stipe has accepted that fight and will take that fight. What is it? Is it a money thing? Is he like, I want, I deserve this, or how is it, why isn't it happening? He's under contract. He has a contract. Okay. So he can do whatever he wants, or he could come back and fight it light heavyweight and regain his title if he wanted to try to do that. How about Khabib, do you think there's a chance? He ever fights again? No, I think Khabib's really done. Really? Yeah. So, I don't know if you just saw last weekend. His boy Islam McIchev fought. And now he's ranked number five in the world. And he's not going to get in the way of his run now. His father wanted. him to become a world champion too. So I think Habib is, you know,
Starting point is 00:36:16 it was an interesting thing out. He was, Habib was 29 and O. He's 5 in O now as a coach, coaching guys. So he's undefeated coaching too. What was his reasoning behind retiring? I think his mom didn't want him to fight anymore, right?
Starting point is 00:36:32 He's extremely fucking wealthy and he doesn't need to fight anymore. What happened to that potential GSP fight? It's out there. You know, GSP wants it, he wants it? I love GSP, man, back in the day. Oh, except I'm from Toronto. Canadian? It's your boy.
Starting point is 00:36:47 I used to love GSP, bro. But that'd be a crazy, like, that would cut some hype. He's crazy. I feel like he will fight again. That's just my opinion. I'm putting it out there. When GSP was champ, like, 16. I was like, grade eight, yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:58 UFC, what was the one where he fought Tiago Alves? 100? Fuck out. I think it's UFC 100. Was it really? Is that UFC 100? I don't remember. Was that the era when Jones hit Shogun with the spinning elbow?
Starting point is 00:37:09 Remember that big spinning elbow? Yep. That was a refus. I mean, obviously, it's right now. But you know unconscious. Yeah. That was refunned it. I watched just one of my birthday, whatever it was.
Starting point is 00:37:18 UFC, GSP versus Tiago Alva, as I remember that. Did you live in Toronto? Yeah. Yeah. Toronto was badass and we finally got into Toronto. You guys got to go back there after COVID? Huh? After COVID's like fucking washed up there.
Starting point is 00:37:31 Yeah, we got to go back to Toronto after COVID. I don't know if COVID's ever going to fucking end in Toronto. It's just crazy, dude. You have to have a vaccine to get in there. right is there what's what's what we did with variant coming out now is the variant I'm just hoping they don't pull that bullshit now where it's like a second way I can't fucking do it anymore I'm out I'm checking no I think after that everyone's going to be like they're not going to believe it like every if there's a second wave I don't think anyone's
Starting point is 00:37:54 gonna buy it yeah no for the first month I'm gonna speak out about it here I'm fucking fucking canned goods I shut down I stayed inside my house I think I you came out my little game show or something I did an Instagram or something I shut that I was fucking freaking the fuck out and then finally I'm like all right enough is enough. And then the problem is you're just brainwashing so many people to just think this is the custom... People are over it now, man.
Starting point is 00:38:17 You know, and then it's just, it's a fucking, it's a fucking joke, but at the same time... I guess it's real. We shut down for six weeks. We shut down for six weeks. Crazy. Because it took me six weeks to figure it out. I'm how to, you know, get it going. So you're going to bring the UFC anywhere outside of you? Went to Abu Dhabi. What's another big... You're going to go anywhere else? Big?
Starting point is 00:38:34 We'll see how this thing plays out. We're supposed to go to London in September. I'm here in London shutting down right now. too i don't know if that's true um we're trying to find you know to verify if that's if that's true or not i'm going to i'm going on vacation this friday i'm going to greece so i'm hearing the mechinoos just shut down so it's going to be i'm on a boat so i don't give a fuck whatever shuts down you know but it would nice it would be nice for it all to be open i want to show you this picture of of a shirt we're selling i saw that that's from the fight no i saw that it's awesome The Trump
Starting point is 00:39:06 2024? I sent it to Trump, Kushner, and John Jr. They say anything? Yeah. Did they say anything? That's going to go crazy. That's going to go fucking nuts.
Starting point is 00:39:18 That's awesome. Steve's a wild man, huh? What's your take on Steve? I love Steve. Steve's one of the nicest fucking kids. He's a great guy. On the planet. He's such a good person.
Starting point is 00:39:29 And, you know, he's one of those guys when you become friends with him. He'd do anything for you. 100%. Which he has 100%. fucking loves Kyle you know it's it let me tell you what don't ever fuck that up no when you when you have a when you're in a business relationship and you're as close as you and Steve are it's like how Lorenzo and I were yeah you know and the one thing that you
Starting point is 00:39:50 got to fuck money fuck all that shit keep keep your friendship tight not we got to go we got each other's backs real people real people are hard to find and he's the real deal and so are you so how's the the holler head real quick. It's doing good. Everything's good, yeah. I see that fucking everywhere now. Yeah. You're going to see it even more places when we're blowing the shit out of that thing.
Starting point is 00:40:13 Yeah, it's fucking nuts. It's going pretty good. I know that these guys have helped you out with that. You guys have both been pumping each other up. We've both pumping each other. Pretty good combo here. Pretty good combo. Don't know who's out of it. Pretty good.
Starting point is 00:40:26 Like spaghetti meatball, these two, I tell you, you know? But I drop the mic and just walk out, then I leave. That's it, you know? I mean, hats off to you, bro. You're one of the coolest, chillest guys. You've done so much for both of us. 100%. You're the man and take care of good care of us. We always get your guy. One thing I'm going to ask Dan, is how
Starting point is 00:40:38 long you think you'll be involved in the UFC? You think you're going to do it for a long more time? Yeah, I just can't you know, I don't want to do anything else. I can't fucking picture I can't picture me not doing this. Why would I not want to do it? It's fucking cool, man. Stay in the nicest fucking hotels
Starting point is 00:40:56 in the world, eating the best restaurants and sit in the best seats in the place for the best fights in the world every fucking Saturday. UFC is just the coolest company. I think you might You might have worse. Do you sleep ever? I mean, you're always up on that shit too. I have sleep issues. I got serious sleep issues. So do I. What are your sleep issues? I never bothered me when I was younger, and now that I'm getting older, it's fucking me up. Meaning sleep issues, what you just stay up?
Starting point is 00:41:19 I have a doctor's appointment tomorrow for fucking sleep study. Yeah. I'm doing a sleep study tomorrow morning. They're going to hook you up the machines and everything? Yeah, they're going to hook me up and I got to go to sleep over there and I can't sleep at my house. How the fuck am I going to sleep over here? Yeah, no shit. That's going to be interesting. A lot to be a fly on the wall on that one. Yeah. Cool. I think that was good.
Starting point is 00:41:38 Anyways. First episode of the full-send podcast. Thank you, Dana. Pleasure, brother. Thanks for having me. Bob. The Godfather right here. You're going to stay with me or what?
Starting point is 00:41:45 I mean, look, if you're willing to have me here. This is, this is. You want to mark off two hours of every schedule that you have, every fucking, you know what I mean? Yeah, it'll be there. I don't want to call Delta Airlines, but I will say, not my fault. That's it. You know, remember that, everybody. Who do you think we should bring on?
Starting point is 00:42:00 Who do you think we should bring on next episode? I kind of like You think Man, I think Dana could ever make a move And I mean, you guys get along so well now I mean Donald Trump might be an option We'll see how the views get
Starting point is 00:42:15 I mean it's got to be a big platform Dana knows how to push it I think you put Let's have the proof of concept first Right now you think you could if I mean maybe I step back Let's somebody else You think you could get Trump on the show for him
Starting point is 00:42:25 Sure Let's get the proof of concept going first Me and Dana will talk We have a slightly better relationship I'm well aware. I'm backpedaled out of this thing. I'm backpedal. We know how to get shit done, you know? I'm out. That's all I'll say. You're the best, buddy. I love you.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Thanks, Dana. You're the fucking man. Appreciate it, bro. All right. See you guys next time.

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