FULL SEND PODCAST - Dave Portnoy x Nelk Boys | Ep. 39

Episode Date: April 13, 2022

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We want out! We want out! We want out! Last time we saw each other was my office, right? At your office? Last night we sat down face-to-face at your office. That was a long time ago. So that's an interesting episode. We got Dave. You guys know Dave. Founder of Barstool. I like how you guys are ready to go right away. We just roll it, yeah. But I was telling Bob, this is for him.

It's like me getting like Drake on an episode. Oh, do not. Do not time out, by the way. It's like a dream episode. His dream episode? Oh, come on. He never... What the way to start here? No, it's like his role model,

like getting like... This is like a dream for him. This is already... I was... This is already an ambush. This is already a fucking ambush. No, I'm just saying. Well, that's a fact.

I mean, I was his role model. That's like beyond dispute. Yeah. Everything I've told about he and I is the truth. Like, I don't sure... I heard you after I said, well, you were talking about me.

I don't know what podcast you were on. But you were telling this story. Bradley Martin's the Brut talk. And then you forgot the part that, like, we never had any. I never said one bad thing about you till you went to the Bulls game and was trashing me. And that's when I was like, what the fuck? Well, that's, wait, wait, wait.

What Dave has, what Dave has? We got to bring this back and explain it. Yes, yes. Yeah, we wanted to have Dave, we wanted to have you on for a while. We thought it'd be really cool to have you on. But I didn't really even know this too, too much. I always knew you guys had a little thing, but then you started sending me all the old tweets. Of course he did.

No, there's a video when he called in. I don't know which podcast it was at the time We used to have like a channel in Syria so we had like live radio You called him the rat Yes Oh no we we went after each other pretty good Right after the Celtics

The Bulls game incident Well I don't know how many people know the background Here's the background There's some old you have well first of all You can chime in You have your version And then I have my version So you can chime in wherever you think the versions

Have gone off Completely different versions The floor is yours So where are you from originally I'm from the exact same place you are, Boston Mass. No, I know. You would know that, of course, where he's from there, Lawrence, Massachusetts. Lawrence, so, all right, parcel's been around.

We're like, oh, geez, we're in newspapers, started 2004. And it, you know, it was like, if you said a blog, nobody would have known what it was when we started. So we started, and we always looked for people, talent, whatever. And Bob at one point when it started sending me videos, and he's like, hey, I think I'm a funny dude, I'd like to work for you. I thought the videos are pretty good. So in some fashion He was given like a crate of t-shirts And went to Bridgewater State

Which is like a college around us That was at the time when you had Because when I went to Dave's apartment You invited me to your apartment I'll interject when I think You know obviously whatever It was like an audition You were basically auditioning

Wait how big was Barstool at this point He was sitting there at his place In his apartment There was T-shirts everywhere It was I think the beginning of start Barstool Yeah I mean Barstle's 20 almost 20 years old so it's never been yeah it's never been and I know like how long have you

been doing it for since like 2010 yeah so long as time longer than people think right right it always is and then you hit hit the thing but it was always just kind of rising so we always look for talent and I did I thought his videos were unique and I'm like oh this guy may be funny um so we met up he went to bridgewater state and he made a video and I wasn't there for it and I didn't really think too much of it but I started getting emails the next day day from dudes. It was like, probably two emails. No, we got a couple of dudes being like, you're a fucking asshole.

You're trying to like sleep with my girlfriend. Like, what the fuck are you doing? I'm like, what is, what are these fucking people talking about? Menry was running around. I don't know what he was doing at Bridgewater State. But it was enough where like the next day I had to clarify, write a blog, be like, yo, this was not me. This is somebody who didn't work for us handing out the shirts.

I don't know what was said. Like, he doesn't work for us. And that was the end of Menry and I for a while, right? Right, right. Yeah. I agree with that. So is a lot of people messaging. Yes. And saying enough, listen, enough for me to publicly be like, that wasn't us. That's not like I'm not like God. I don't know what you guys were doing there. I will say I did not bring the strongest team of talent. You know, my camera crew that consisted of five people. The other four people that were that camera crew were four people that I met the night before. I think locally at a bar. But there was nothing ever bad that happened. I think what happened was. I think there was nothing ever bad that happened. I think there was nothing ever bad that happened. I think there was nothing. I think there were a lot of boyfriends in the mix. So guys. sort of being like, what the fuck are these people? And we were still relatively new, where not somebody would see Barstool be like,

we automatically know what that is. So whatever, it was, I think it was newspaper days. I don't even think we were, like, we write it. Yeah, so, and that was the end of it. And whatever, there wasn't like hard feelings. We just, I said what happened? Yeah, the articles, I did ask, I said, because I remember you messaging me, you were like,

I got to write an article, I got to address this. Right. And I was like, well, just go easy on me. A little bit, if you don't mind, you know, which I was absolutely nothing at the time. you know whatever and then i think i wish i could pull that art it was a little aggressive more i'm an aggressive guy so i don't protect his brand though correct which i agree with which is fine i'm cool up to that point we got enough where i was just like man i don't want this like people seem

pissed and i wasn't there so i didn't know what happened um and then we fast forward it to when you started taking off with the voiceovers right and he re came out and was like hey i'd like to come work for you guys um we met and this is stuff that happened that i pulled later once we got in the real fight but we're still fine he said you said you forgot and this would become a part of it later you said you forgot your phone so you needed a I had to take a picture of us and text it to you because you didn't have it or something for your sister who was a fan that became later whatever so we we negotiated a price and we couldn't get to it we it's just the pay structure didn't work no price of what him coming

to work yeah how much we offered him a contract I think you have me like a hundred fifty thousand dollars which is a good money a year yeah which what were you doing at the time bob which i was doing i was doing not much so it was a reasonable offer yeah it was a reason but i i think i counted with like five million it was he counted with big whatever still no no hard feelings like after it's like all right that's beyond he wanted more than we could give but i was still sour about you know what had happened before but you know i was in a younger stage keep going yeah but still like you know this is where i want to be dream spot fine well i know i mean i wouldn't i thought it would have been a lot lower than that. That's pretty

Yeah, we make good offers. We don't, like, we don't lowball. You blew, and you blew a UFC deal, too, Dana told me. Dana offered you a big bag. Listen, let's not make this. Listen, listen, I know we always usually suck the guest dick here, but all right, let's not, let's not just give, you know. And then, again, kind of, it's like, all right, we're in different ways.

He's like, you're going to regret it, but not in a bad way, almost like Rick Vaughn and like Major League. Like, I'm going to become this huge fucking guy and you're going to fucking regret it. Whatever. We went a different ways. Again, no problem. Hey, so what did you want to talk about? Well, I want to tell you about Wagovi.

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And he's like, hey, do you have beef with Bob Menner? I'm like, no, not at all. He, like, he applied for a job here. I've known him for a long time. He's like, this guy is fucking trashing you at the Bulls game. Incorrect. And that, when I heard that, that's when I went off. I don't know who the bulls game.

You know, it's funny. To this day, I would love to know who that guy is. I know you want to keep them probably private, and you said that on your show recently. I would love to know who this guy is because trashing is an extremely strong word. So what were you saying? I was basically in the lines of, Dave, it's like an egotistical fucking asshole.

He's very hard. That's kind of trashing, no? That's trashing, yeah. That is trashing, is that trashing? Yes. But that's, that's Boston talk. You're from Boston. The thing, it's like, I wasn't even fucking there.

Like, why would you be talking about me? Well, so here's a deal. Then you've got relayed the information from this person. Correct. I think there's a different way to address it. What I do from Boston is, I pick up the phone and I call the person personally. I don't go on a radio show the next day and then bash me.

But why wouldn't you have started? And bring it up where you bashed me in front of without actually even getting a reliable you just said though, you said it. Yeah, it just did now. Yeah. But what I would have done, what I would have done is I would have picked the phone, called me first and say, hey, were you bashed the bullskin? Instead, you go in front of a million people and say.

Is this a random guy or were you with the guy that? I don't know who the fucking guy is. It was just happened to be. Right. Like he wasn't talking. He was just talking about me and my friend overheard. So why would I extend any courtesy? it's like you've been face to face you've never said any of those things but i said it but i said it in a playful

bob menory type way of how i usually do it like well they just an egotistical asshole you know like that's how i said it yeah so it could have been misinterpreted i mean this guy i i'll tell you off camera you you probably are aware of him and i i've known him for 20 years he's never once ever done he's never had like hey this guy's really saying bad things and he almost is like i know it's awkward i don't want to do it but he's saying he's really going after you. And I was like, what are you talking about? Yeah, that's overplay. It was never really going after.

It was a brief comment. You know, in today's world, you know how it is. I was with that guy at the Bulls game. Were you at the game? With him? Yeah, no, but I mean, I do sincerely apologize for then if you were offended. I just thought you had thicker skin than that than to be able to blast me in front of 20 million people. I have the thickest skin.

I feel like I want the thickest skin in the game. If somebody I know doesn't like me, fucking, I don't, there's nothing you could say. It was more like, wait a man, this guy, you have been, like, always very deferential and, like, I want to work at Barstool. I respect what you did. And then I'm hearing this shit. It's like, don't be too-faced. That's the part that gets me. How many people have you heard from one guy?

Just that guy. Yeah. Just that one guy. Right. I got 20 trillion people messaging me after you blew me up on the internet after that. So you got it from one guy. I had 20 million people. Where was the blow up on the internet?

Was that that Twitter? So then he, yes. Wait, Bob, did you know you were on that podcast? We should play this. Then he. This is so. me he called in. Right.

I went crazy. I got it, but you bashed me publicly on the air, so I have a right to fucking speak. So here's a deal simple of this. The time I fake, like I worked for Barstall, David, guess what? Was I inside your apartment, David? And you handed me out every fucking t-shirt. And you said that. Bob, what you did was you said, I want to prove that you can work for me.

Now you hung up. That's true. Get them back on, Frankie. Jesus Christ, Frankie. When I, I said 10 minutes. Four years ago? Three years ago. The only disagreement really is what was said in the game.

He's saying it wasn't as bad as it was relayed to me. Right. But there's this difference with one guy saying it and then I had to deal with a hundred thousand people fuck with me. It's like if somebody you truly, truly trust. Oh, no. That's, that's. That's you. Right.

Once it's like this guy's, I don't care people trash him. It's more like the trash in me privately. It came across, you were trashed me privately and he just happened to overhear it. Like if he wasn't there, you just are trashing me. Right. Right. And by the way Wait, was that the rap part?

Then this spiral Then he like You were you were Tweeting For Boston brother You know it's one For Boston brother threatened to murder me He deleted that

It was like Like legit murder He's like I'm gonna murder you And then that tweet was deleted Yeah well we gotta keep that off Because actually no My brother did absolutely defend me Because you know that's what family does

And whatnot But I mean we're from Boston It is what it is But to this day I mean I've always think I've said and spoken, you know, maybe I'm one, at that time, and I'll still call you an egotistical maniac

to your face. I'm fine with it, you never called it to my face. Right. Call me it right now. I just call, I mean, do it right now, but what I always do say is I have the utmost respect for what you've built, coming from the same city and just how you took from that one day that I saw you in the apartment with all the T-shirts spread out into building the empire

that you built today. Well, I appreciate it. So that's what I will say. Yeah, and I mean, again, and even, so we were trying to work with you guys when we were doing the gambling stuff and I remember we were a catch and you had him on speaker phone. I remember you're like, if we do this we should, I should probably patch things. Yeah, I'm like

I'll bear it is business business. But I, and listen. By the way, Bob was really excited for that dinner too. He's like, should I come and get another table? Listen, that is not, no, no, no. I said, listen, Dave, Dave, here's a deal. By the way, I feel like we're getting along great, you know. Yeah. Are you guys hiring still? Yeah, right. I mean, you've been everywhere

bouncing around and you find your spot. Listen, I your number's pretty high right now what's your number right now right now is uh to go how could you how after after you here aren't you guys logoed up here he's not happy with what he's making on the podcast

oh is that it you know you know how that goes right Dave let's just say you know we may become a free agent soon so you know we can maybe run this Is this the first guy because you have a history of destroying people was like Bob is he on that lit do you have a champagne bottle with Bob menry on it? No it never got to that level like the people now unfortunately who have those

have elevated into like trying to destroying my life. Who's on that list? Like the business insider people and shit like that, who have taken things to a level I never dreamed like my life would get taken to. So those have elevated as, but he was never at that. We had that brief thing I kind of, you know, went upon our ways.

The thing about me, and I'm sure, again, Kyle's been doing it so long, I don't care that people don't like me. I honestly don't. It's like a lot of people don't. But I'm pretty straightforward. Like I always in the same, you know if I'm going to like you or don't. the biggest thing that drives me nuts are what I consider frauds and that was what set me off it's like this guy I've talked to a decent amount I've known them not like close but over this longer than a decade basically it now and I got the call from somebody who I truly trust I'll tell you off the air I was talking light shit yeah he was right right so light shit light shit light shit but I think it was just like it was quick for no reason he didn't get signed right probably maybe he had an opportunity he gave him an offer it is what it is but I don't want to make it in By the way, it wouldn't have been worse.

I don't want to have been worse. The Bob Menoray, Dave Portnoy-Beefe either. I want to, you know, I think, go ahead, Dave. It wouldn't, I wouldn't have cared if, like, he was talking to my friend, like, knowingly. It was like, he overheard him. It was, like, something that was never met to get back to me. The next guest in the podcast is, whoever he is. That's the next guest, Kyle, on the fucking podcast.

I bet you know him. Well, we actually have him here. Come on. It is, probably you do. I bet you know. I bet you know, I bet you know. So, wait, you guys haven't talked for three years, right? And you know what's funny

You said it on his show Dave said it's the show It's amazing because we have so many mutual friends Dave and I And we've never fucking ran into each other No never You know and it's I think I thought I would have

I'm sure we've been in the same places at times But no never You avoided that one pretty hard You know when I know port and what Well I mean Until I saw him face to face again I just didn't really If I knew Dave was going somewhere

I just didn't go Yeah that's it Come on Yeah I just didn't like really like you know I worked for Bob No because you know what I stay in I have a tunnel vision And I was like

Like, I didn't want any distractions. Yeah, but I'm not like, I mean, I'm not like a 6-3. Like, I don't look for like, I don't avoid it if someone comes up, but I'm not like, I haven't been a fight in my life. Oh, time out, time on, I'm not a pussy because I also issued Dave a million-dollar fight that he declined because of his shoulder. That wasn't you. I wish I could fight.

Rappaport wanted to fight me. Rappaport got me so fired up. I actually sent him a formal contract to fight, and I literally wouldn't have been able to throw a punch. But he, I was. Because, by the way, you would be a favorite probably over me. I don't know. Yeah, people thought you called me 5-7. And I'm like, wait a man, I think I'm like...

Another misinterpreted thing in the Internet. No, I know. Well, that always happens. But I stood by. I was mad at that point. Just, it was more like, what the fuck? He's talking shit about me after it... I knew you want to work, and it was nothing but nice.

And I did say stuff. It's like, I think I was like, his sister. I talked about that, the phone thing. And it got heated for like 48 hours. Also, too, I disagreed, too, with... And this is something I stand by wholeheartedly is what I truly disagree with people doing is any tech. conversations that you have in private

with somebody should stay in private and not blast it on the internet. And that was something that Dave shared, Dave shared a text exchange on the internet of me and him of a personal conversation. Now I guess that was a move to defend yourself on what was going on. I'll empty the clip. Once you go like on the other side, I think everything is kind

of fair game. Wait, well he's a pornois survivor. I am actually. You're a fucking survivor. You warmed your way out of this one. Yeah, well, it really wasn't, I mean, it didn't continue. And again, my life has gone different ways where like the online feuds of other media personalities kind of pale now to like the other shit bro i gotta tell you my favorite content of all time was the suit man content like that was the best you watch that oh yeah that was bro but like i picture that guy on like

an abandoned island like a huge beard or like in witness protection or something i sit in my basement so who was that guy he was like high up he was an exec at HBO yeah he was the director of HBO sports wow yeah you had sophia with an aff on here right no no we did a Stanii thought he could Well, job's not finished But it could happen still But yeah We'll talk about that later

Yeah That was a that was a big thing I mean who knows I've gotten so many different Like I've The financial stuff that I dealt with Like going after Robin Hunt GameStop

Trade a lot of enemies with that I have a lot of enemies Scooter Braun That was funny Scoot bro I don't think Yeah People love that I think he actually

Well because you were the first one To really go at him And he was so respected right So when you said that It was just so funny Yeah so that was also call her daddy, like we dealt with that split up for months.

That was a disaster. You maybe have that with memory when he wants more money. But it was a ongoing ordeal with them when they split and it was done. We knew what was happening and that's when Scooter got involved. And he just called me, he's like, yeah, I'm going to like want you to fix

this. It's like, who the fuck are you? I'm a dealing with this. It was actually grubman. But I love Scooter. I will say that. I love Scooter. I have to say I love Scooter. You have your I've never, no, I have no problem. Like, we're at Dave's spot right now, Key Club, but he called me first. He's like, I have, um, Scooter Braun wants to talk to you about this caller daddy thing.

He's like, do you want to talk to him? He's like, I'll talk to him, but he knows how I am, right? It's like, everything is on the record and I don't care. He's like, I told him you're a terrorist and he still wants to talk to you, so. Do you feel bad for Sudy? Suitman, I don't know what he's up to now. He's fucking, dude, you can't do anything right now. Are they still?

I don't know if they're still together. I don't know. There's parts of me that thinks he's involved in a lot of, I have, like, conspiracy theories up the wazoo of people involved. You want to just destroy people if they piss you off, or is it, like, for the content? What Suitman did was he tried to become, so we found Caller Daddy. Like, Caller Daddy had a... Yeah, how did that come about?

They had no episodes. They had, like, I knew Alice Cooper. Alice Cooper's ex-boyfriend had actually hooked up with a girl that I was hanging out with. So I knew in Noah Cinegard. So she was dating Noah Cinderg. So, like, well-known celebrity. and she was the girlfriend. Nobody knew who she was,

but they're in, like, the New York Post or whatnot. So I followed her. She posted at one point on her Instagram, just a sizzle reel of Caller Daddy. I watched it. It was interesting, good. Called her, and I'm like, who made that for you? She's like, I did.

She's like, I learned how to market it. I learned how to edit it. I learned it all myself. And it was really, like, slickly produced. So it was obvious. It was way more behind her than what was just you were saying. I find that's when you know, too, when they can, like, edit and know,

to market themselves too that's when it's like you know it takes so much work off you're like okay this person has something and the like ambition to learn how to do it to get it to that point so i was like all right well we'll give you a starting salary if you want it and and take the podcast and put it our network she's like yep there's one of the girls sophia and so they came along they each got 70 grand it was that each of their starting salaries and the thing just exploded like they have any moment did they have anything going nothing nothing going from before that no fucking good deal bro 150 out of the week we're not talking about bob Menry and Davey Moore.

Well, Menry was significantly ahead of, like, where they were when they started. We still ran into that. They got so big, so fast that that original contract got, like, outdated instantly almost. And we did pay them a lot more, but they started looking around. And it's like anything. It's like, well, if we're on our own free agents, you go look at, like, I remember, they went out and did a podcast with Logan Paul. I think they did impulsive.

And Logan asked them, I think, how much they're making. And they answered. and he's like, whoa, you guys are getting screwed. And that was the beginning of the contract stuff. And what eventually happened with Superman, who was Sophia's boyfriend, decided he was going to be the manager. And he had negotiated a contract, I think, at one jury for them while they were under contract with us.

And they came during COVID. They sat on my roof deck, Alex and Sophia, and they basically were getting right to leave. And we needed them. So I made them like an unbelievable deal. I was like, you guys can take the IP. I'll shorten your contract and give you more money

we just need you for another year Alex wanted it Sophia refused it supposedly because the boyfriend's like nope I need to manage you and they split and then all hell broke Who ended up in a better situation I don't fall to stall

Well Alex got a three or $60 million deal from Spotify so I'd say she did okay You really didn't know that? I don't pay attention to the internet brother I really don't He's not even trolling you right now I don't pay attention to the internet Dave You cost Sophia a lot of money

Sophia costs herself a lot of money I mean that's me and her go back a little bit so I don't really appreciate you doing her like that yeah Sophia man that's meant one of the worst decisions ever made by a human do you guys contact you any regret that? If she just took the contract like if she if when

they walked out they were just like yep we'll take it they would have they would have owned 100% of it it would have bought I told them like you'll both be multi-millionaires if you can wait 12 months right and Alex is like So what was Sophia's game then by not doing it? You trusted suity.

Yeah. But she just said, okay, I'm just going to get nothing of call her daddy? It went back and forth. They kind of, so Alex came to us. Like how did Alex get it all? Alex came to us and said, listen, I want to take it. Sophia's never going to take it. She's moving the goalposts on you.

Her boyfriend is the one manipulating this deal, and he wants in on it and is never going to happen. I said, I didn't care. If Sophia came to us and was like, I want it and Alex doesn't, We've been like, okay, Sophia, we'll work with you. We'll just work with whoever will work with us. So Alex is the one who's like, this is the deal we have to take now. It's a little he said, she said between them. But I think the result after, like Sophia launched her own, Alex launched her own.

And Alex is, I mean, Alex is like the female Rogan. She gets whoever she wants. You feel bad for Sophia because they built it together, right? Well, you feel better for. I don't because. Because you're a savage or because Alex is also like we were getting ready to be like you guys are sexually like harassing us at work to get out. of the contract they were ready to do they were before this happened they just stopped podcasting

and they were basically insinuating we were mistreating them and they're going to do all this shit to get out of the contract which i believe was orchestrated by suit man so that's why i was like city pretty pretty ready to roll on this guy they they must have been tough to deal with business wise they just stopped showing up because i know sophia's pretty wild right yeah they just stopped showing up right like she parties right they literally she wrestled one of our guys that our first Christmas party trying to get her in like a cab. Do you feel like trying to get a bag? In a cab. Just like we were,

she was so shit-faced. We were just trying to put her in a cab. And a guy like you're a hot. I was like wrestling with like you got to get in the cab. Damn. You built your whole business off like controversy you say too, right? Like you always, you sell controversy well, right? Yeah, I mean, we

don't run from it. I never look for it. People always think we're like going out of our way but we're not, but I just don't run from it. But you have to slow it. But you must know when someone calls you out and there's such an easy target you're like oh this this fucking guy's done it's like it doesn't happen I can't remember the last it again the fights I've been

in and even our crowd kind of get sick of it they're different I never imagine like being accused of some of the shit that I've been accused of that's like a whole different level that is very different that I've dealt with but you have to slow down now the con because now you're with

pen gaming and doing all that stuff do they yeah well it does it varies it affects it now right I would go after anybody anytime, like AOC. Like I've gotten a huge thing with her. Like going back and forth about unions. I made a union joke, which was a joke, and they took it serious because it was actually about deadspin. I was like they were going out business and like, oh, your union doesn't work.

And people are like, oh, you're anti-union. AOC tweet at me. I don't do that. I try not to go after politics because it can affect us. Well, you go on Tucker all the time. Yeah. But it's not overly political what I talk about. but people will say that.

And when I, I mean, I know you guys had Trump. Like, when I interviewed Trump, it wasn't overly political, but he's such a lightning rod. Yeah, you take shit for it. If you don't like them, you hate them. Who's the guy that calls Dave Portnoy and tells him to slow down a little bit right now? Oh, nobody. I use my own judgment.

Your own judgment. Like, I run a business. What's that? No. No. Have you ever had any backlash or been like, fuck, maybe I took this too far or done anything like that? Why just survive back to school when you can thrive?

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It's pretty crazy. Because I feel like I'm fair. like and I don't play it like the matter anything weirdly is a good example like I didn't I wasn't like oh I'm gonna go crush him it's like I heard this story and I just got mad and I just react like mad but it's I wasn't looking for that beef

it's the Boston blood I mean you think you missed an opportunity with this guy or what? It's a big deal right now I don't know what we would have done with him I think we could you know I think Dave and I could have done great things together and I think that we're you never know we don't a lot of times our guys I'm in a great place right now it feels sent. A lot of times our guys

aren't like we're very good at finding talent. Like Steve Love this guy. Applied for us and I ignored it. Did you know that? I heard that on your show. I heard you say that. I actually watched your first show. I had no idea. Like I didn't, until he was big, I went back. I was like, holy shit. How do you miss that? He was a nobody. Like he had no, it's like we get a million people sending it. But also hats off to that.

He did a fake pizza review. Yeah. And that's when I'm like, oh, yeah, finding talent. It's very difficult. Yeah. But you've done a good job that. I think we've done as good as you can do I mean if you look who's through whether it be like Alex McAfee Who is your worst hire Ever? Ever?

Ever that you regret the most You probably won't know him right Rappaport That's what I was going to say Well there you go Had to be Michael Yeah by far the worse I haven't I just know Michael

Through communication through social media What not what the story's been told A thousand times You dislike Rappaport still Yes I think he's got He destroyed him I thought Legitimately a screw loose

Like I like to What does he do It's a comedian And he's in tons of movies. He's in movies, yeah. Oh, right, right, right. He's in, like, a well, well-known actor. He's, like, done a lot of funny videos.

But we pursued him because that was when we got money. It's like, okay, we can afford talent. And I never had a falling out with him until he got into it with everybody. He was calling our fans seriously, like, idiots. Like, if you like, Barstil, you're dumb. But he didn't say it, and, like, some of our fans are dumb. But he said it to everybody. He's like, you got no life, basically.

if you like barstle and he got in a fight with our employees everyone hated him i'm like i gotta let you go mike and then he turned it on me and he's he just went crazy and they i sued us well okay i forget what he sued us for oh like slander and she's he's how much has uh like your role or barstool slowed down since pen came in you got your bag and all that because it seems like things have changed before pen came in yeah well i probably would have been like slowly out of it pen actually brought me back into it because I've been doing it for so long. But you're paid now. Yeah, I know but it's still, it's a new thing. I love gambling

like I've always, if he's been following us forever, like I always, the second article we did, it started as a gambling newspaper. So to be like, I just started following you by the way. I didn't, I have not been following bars still until I just did the click. Oh, I appreciate it. I'm not going to get pressure at the high speed follows here

up the top. So no, I like the gambling thing. It's, like, fun to be in that industry, and I like doing it and like competing, and I do my own content, but it's a different world. I mean, we've got like 400 people now. What's your biggest bet you've ever placed? Real action. Half a million. And what was that?

I've done it multiple times. I did it, but the one I lost was Virginia Tech Miami. A guy jinxed me. I won a couple. I placed 250 grand bet on the paths in the Super Bowl. That at the time was my biggest bet, and I got taken out in handcuffs and had to, like, hear it. in jail in the bottom of the stadium. But 500 grand is the biggest.

How did that deal come about? That's interesting. The pen? Yeah. Like how did that, what was the inception of how that deal came about? So we started as a gambling newspaper. And like we always work with the draft kings,

fandals, all those guys. So you guys were doing brand deals with gambling companies. Yeah, yeah, early. Like the first company was, I think, Draft Street, which eventually became like Draft Kings, I think. So from day one.

And then they changed the laws in the U.S. it became that you could legally bet on sports and I knew it's like our audience is perfect for it and we met with fan dole we met with draft kings we met with poker stars or mGM everybody i had never heard a pen pen at the time they have like a bunch of different casinos but they're none of them are named they're all different names so you don't know what's them um and we got set up with them and that just kind of was the right fit all those guys keep it down it's kind of the right fit because they have no brand so we became their brand so if you go on your phone sparsal sports book and and we're the front facing thing for it so you but you also dabbled in two

which is always a conversation i always had with kyle too is you dabbled offshore too as well you guys did you have a relationship with bet online or bet when we started the first advertisers in the newspaper were party poker like i was there like completely money maker completely illegal though yeah of course uh yeah i was there yeah i was there the year he won with the people um yeah we had the greek yeah the offshores the offshores correct yeah and into this date that's I always say you see what I want to know your opinion on you see the MMA right now right the MMA bet online or whatever company is which is steak awful not steak no they all on AG or bet online dot AG whatever the fuck it is they're all the same they're based in costa rica

gibralda they're all offshore right they're all illegal offshore gambling companies there's no regulations and whatnot so like the whole UFC and mMA world is fucking with offshore gambling sites right now right you think there's a point where it companies like penn company like draft kings are going to step in and there's going to be repercussions for fucking with offshore gambling companies. Like who, who, I don't know what you mean, like the individual. Well, steak, steak's not in the U.S., but it's on the UFC mat. It's interesting.

And like now you see Drake. But they also, they're taking action away from you. Yeah, I mean, and there's no regulatory system at all. Yeah. So they're going to go that way or it's going to go the other way where it's like they're not going to be able to control it. I think it's going to get too big in the U.S. where every state by state is getting legal and legal and legal. They look at that in the regulated world as a strike against you and you do have to get like registered. Like, McAfee's an example.

When he worked for us, there was a big deal on the table for my bookie with him, and we had to turn it down because we knew we were talking to, like, Penn and all these guys. And McAfee was upset a little bit at the time, but it ended up McAfee turned it down. And then look, he got, what, $100?30. There's more money in the legal, I think, than the offshore. But the offshore is just, if you want to eventually become legal, you have to stop dealing with it but do you think there'll be repercussions for people that

are yeah I think so too I don't know that there'll be repercussions but they may not be allowed to work with the legal guys right once you make that step into offshore gambling correct they're just gonna be scared I mean there's back and forth there's uh I know you guys are doing a little bit a lot of like the banks of the world we're doing like the crypto like

blackjack and flying to do it like we wish we could do that but it's you can't you can't right and it's been sports gambling is exploding right now in the US and so I just think it's become Such a superpower, right? These companies are going to see all these fucking things going off shore. And before you know it, they're going to shut down operation. I'm surprised UFC has that on the mat to be on.

Well, it's not you see. They're going to their individual people. So Dana really is on the, it was on the mat. Yeah, but they have a huge, like, their fighters are worldwide, though. But that can't be because draft kings. So I think. So I think. Yeah, there's no way.

You have seen the steak thing on the mat. I've seen it. Are you sure you guys? Yeah. On UFC event? Yes. We have both seen. I think it was in Vegas when we saw it.

But 100%. But they have fighters outside of the US. Because what I see... So what I've heard is that if your audience is over, like, 50% international... You can do it, then you can do it. And that's why the UFC can do it is because they have a huge international audience. I'd be surprised that they're allowed to because I thought they, like, did an exclusive with D.K. But...

Yeah, this is crazy. And now you see Drake promoting steak, too, that's pretty... Yeah. Right. And then when Drake goes, everybody goes... But I'm saying more like with the bet online... Because I see what the bet online did or bet whatever my IG. I don't know who they are, right?

But they're all... I don't trust any of those companies because you can't trust the payouts. Well, where, where are you from originally? Canada. Yeah, so like Ontario, we just launched. So we bought the score. We own the score. Really?

Yeah, which just became legal in Ontario, April 4th. But, like, Bet365 was operating illegally there for a long time. Yeah, there it is on the mat. Yeah. So that's interesting. Yeah, I don't know. It's all the loopholes and all that shit. Yeah, that's why it's weird for me because in Canada,

it's always been sports betting's been legal. My whole fucking. That may be illegal. company. Just illegal for Americans to battle. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you said, back to your point, if you have a certain amount of the others.

Well, Canada, it's fully legal everywhere, right? Sports betting online. It's 19 plus, so like the U.S. All my boys have been sports betting since we were fucking legally since we were 19. Right, that was with the government. But like, Bet 365 was theoretically illegal, but it was available. Like, they just didn't take steps to prevent it. But now, like, they passed.

You for sure played Bavada back in the day. I was on, like, the Greek list. I still have, like, Bet, Bet, Jamaica, the Greek. That was our early advertisers. My mother, like, used to bet, like, five bucks a game. She, like, have these accounts. I've been banned from all of them, like, all the, all the sites.

Because what I do is I lose. Then I'm like, yo, hey, like, customer support. I'm, like, customer's right. I'm, like, can I have my money back? Maybe I'll throw a couple plugs. And they just, they banned me on all. It's a dangerous thing to bet. I mean.

A couple of plugs. There are a couple of swipe-ups, tweets, you know? It is a dangerous thing to bet that way, though, because if they don't want to pay you, they don't have to pay you. It's not regular. It's not regular. Do you guys get a lot of backlash from fans for the casino shit? No, no, no.

The only thing we'll get any occasionally is like you guys talk too much gambling. But those are just people who don't know us because we've always, that's what makes it work. Like we've always talked gambling. And gambling is fucking the best thing in the world. There's nothing better than fucking gambling. This is completely off topic. But remember when we were in Malibu two years ago? When COVID first hit, this guy came up to me and he said, yo, I want you to invest all your money into Penn Gaming.

Because I believe in Dave Portnoyne. I think it was at $9. Was this pre-year post-fight? Always believed in you. No, I think it was $9, and I put a lot of my money and made... Did you sell it? When it was up to, like, 112. That's a good sell.

So I made a lot of money. Yeah. Well, guess what the fuck is my cut? Yeah. Get it cut. And when I didn't have the money, because I lost that at betonline.com, and I didn't have the money to put it up. So 40, 140 back to 40. I had to piss so bad, but keep going.

So back to the pen thing. So how did they come in and, like, acquire a steak and bars? Yeah, so I sold 51% of it in 2016. to a company called Churning Group, who knew about you guys. They actually reached out to us a long time ago, yeah, and I met with them a few times. Yeah, so, um... Tell us about that one, too, then, because that's interesting. Yeah, so I was just grinding.

So we had been around since 2004, and it was 2016, and a guy reached out, this old fat quarterback, Jared Lorenzen, and he passed away, but he played for the Giants in Kentucky, hefty-lefty, Pillsbury Throwboy, like the fattest quarterback ever. but we became friendly with him and his agent was friends with somebody at churning one day he called me he's like hey i used to work at yahoo digital running their sports i just left i'm going to churning i've always been interested in would you ever take investment i'm like i'm open to talking about it he jumped on a plane from san francisco and the next day he was in boston so you knew he was serious he's like if i gave you guys money what would you do at the time i was in boston big cat dan was like chicago

Kevin was in New York. We had a guy in Philly. It's like, we create what I would consider the first blog reality show, move everybody into one office, keep the cameras rolling, and just go. And he's like, all right, that sounds good. They valued us at that time at,

I think it was 12.5 million was the valuation. I knew nothing about any of that shit. And I was doing well. I was making good money, but it's like, all right, maybe we can take, you know, jump up with some help here. And so we took it.

So that was the valuation. It was the first time I ever had, like, real money. So what did they, what did they acquire at that point? 51% of it. And the valuation was like $12.5 million. All my guys got some equity in it. And then from 2000, we hired, that's where we hired our CEO, Erica. Everyone moved, and we were 15 people at that time.

And we just grew really fast from there until Penn. Penn came in. Did they bring in Erica? No, I did. Okay. So it was like, I happened to meet. There was a woman, by the name of Betsy Morgan, who was the old CEO of Huffington Post, a Nantucket woman. I'm a Nantucket guy.

And somebody knew, I think it was the Turner, guys, like, you should meet her. She became, like, a small advisor. And one day she was in New York, and she's like, let's grab a coffee. She's like, by the way, I'm just with a friend of mine. And it was Erica. And Erica was from my area, and we just hid it off. That's how I met Erica. We interviewed, like, people always think I hired her because she's female, so I can be like,

oh, we're not sexist. She was just the best. Like, we hired, interviewed 70 guys for the CEO job and couldn't find any of them. That's what I was going to ask you. Is that your best hire so far? Yeah. I mean, out, like the guys like Dan, obviously was a great hire. Big Cat, Kevin, she's, without her, we wouldn't be where we are.

Yeah. And how did the, Pat McAfee. Wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Penalty box? Penalty box. Go take a laugh. Go take a laugh. Talk to me a second.

Yeah, that's going to have to talk too much. Changes topics like that. That's what he does. Yeah, he changes topics. But I think you guys can figure something out. They brought in Erica, or you brought in Erica, and then... Growth exploded. We went from, like, 15 to 200 people in a year, basically, outgrew our offices.

Everything just grew really fast. And then the gambling legislation passed, and that's 2... Where, what? That's 2,000 is 20, basically. And we got valued at $450 million to $7,000. the rest of it so basically churning sold 36% at that time to pen with the rest they take it in a year we fucked up like we set the market almost like in sports where the first contract and you look back it's like oh man but the what you fucked up on the first one no with pen like if

we sold now we'd be like we could have sold for billions based on like the gambling market like how much these people are getting like maccavie just mackoffey signed with vandal i think a three year like a hundred and twenty million dollar deal he's he's dynamic but it's like he's great i don't want to take anything away from him but how the i think but to give you an idea draft kings who just paid one of our guys like seven figures to go to them they didn't even like they didn't even make a offer it was like a hundred million they didn't make an offer and then like two years later you're paying for one guy like maccathie was part of our company at that point yeah you could have had me mackavy big cat all of us Alex cooper all of us and no one saw it until

I think they missed that opportunity and they're like, fuck, now we've got to overpay me with fire. Right. And the stock went crazy. It's come back down. But, yeah, it changed the market in the gambling space. Jesus. So is churning completely out now? No, they still own it.

But for all intensive purposes, yes. But on paper for another year. Like Penn already came forward and said in the original contract, there was numbers that were set. And it all, like, if you do this, this, that, you can only go this high, this low. and Penn already said, okay, we're going to buy it at the high point when we're eligible, all 100% of the company. So they very publicly said that.

What was that deal like for you when Penn sold? Are you allowed to say? Like, how much did I make? You got a hundred mill? Yeah, about 100 million. How does that feel? 100 mil stock or cash? It was a combo.

Like, it was half and a half. And I didn't get it like... 50 mil cash. Pretty much, yeah. It wasn't... How does that feel? It wasn't all at once. It's like, but it's guaranteed.

It was unbelievable. From writing newspapers. It was unbelievable. So 50 mil cash, 50 mil stock. Yeah, pretty much. It was unbelievable. Like, I mean... How does that make you feel?

What was that moment like when you finally get that email that you're like... And it's just like surreal. Because for a long time, we didn't make a fucking cent. Like, it was probably eight years before it's like, huh, maybe I can do this full time. And now it's like, there's always different elements. I don't know how people run out of money. It's like, I can do whatever. I just never have to worry.

It's nuts. And you never know with those type of deals, like if it's going to get done. I know. Done. Like I wouldn't tell anybody because it's like something's going to happen. It's not going to make it, whatever. But it was done, done. It was just kind of like a deep breath.

Because no matter what happened, it's like I made it. Like I'm not going to have to worry about my money, my family. It's surreal. I'm not really a money guy. Like I would have been happy making 60 grand doing what I want to do. That's why I started Varsstool. Right place, right time, a lot of different things. I mean, you guys are killing.

it. Did you ever think like it would get to this point? Like, I didn't even think of it. It wasn't in my, it wasn't like a plan where like, okay, we're going to do this, that, that it just kind of happened. So then what's your role at Barstool after that? After the deal, content. So it's like, I'm still totally in charge of content and really almost every decision because I know, like, Erica and I have worked like hand and glove. We never disagree. And I think we respect each other so much it's like if we disagree we defer to each other um let's just grow in the company and now growing the gambling that's a huge part so do you have to work for them for like a certain amount five years so i designed a five year deal and then you get to renegotiate yes i could do whatever

it but they own it like it you know so if i want to leave i couldn't go do a competitor or something like that but you could get like another check after that yeah oh yeah yeah yeah and they'll need I don't think I'll ever leave because... You don't want it. Right, and I have so much stock and equity, it's like, I'm going to keep it and want to go up. I'll probably go into maybe more like a figurehead and do content and not have to worry about day-to-day shit.

Yeah. That's cool. Do you have a girl, no? Yes. Oh, nice. Yep. Bob said he gets more ass than you. I just want you to know.

But I've been seeing... I only have... I have a girlfriend, so I would... I just want to let you know. If you don't have a girlfriend, I would hope so. So Dave, here's... Wait, I just want to let me know. You know, I've been seeing him pop up.

I'll tell you something, Dave. There's a reason why we call him Zirat. You're Zirat. He called, he was a rat two years ago, you fuckered. Listen, yeah, that was two years ago. We're right here right now. Anyways, at the end of the day, you just don't take much for what he says too seriously. Just let him do his thing.

But anyway, yo, yeah, go ahead. You're popping up in her TikToks. He kind of promotes his girl all over his page. I don't know if you follow him. It sounds like you don't. But he's doing like 25,000 giveaways if you follow his girl, which we can't figure out. I don't even know what you just said, 25,000 giveaway? He's giving away Ethereum to people that follow his girl.

Yeah. Well, I have a long-term playoff. But you're popping up in TikTok. I'm dropping a, I'm dropping an OnlyFans for and stuff like that. That's lame, though. Why? To give away Ethereum for a follow? Not even U.S.D.

Like, crypto for your girl. What's wrong with that? What do you think about that, Dave? Would you do that for your girl? Well, when this OnlyFans drops and we make a million dollars in a week, is that $3,000 in Ethereum going to make sense when we fucking... But it's not as you. Actually, I don't even think that's legal, actually, that we're allowed to do this.

Paid followers is just. just like a negative connotation. Here's a deal. You know what it is? What I like to do, and I'm going to be real kid. Is it the same girl you were dating like before? There's been a lot of them.

There's been a lot of them. There was just one that when we were talking. Yeah, why, did you DM her? No, not the country club scene. Yes, that's the one I was talking about. No, not the country club. The, I met a new girl summer who I, I, I, she's great. She's all wearing a good thing.

So, but back to your, your stuff. We're going to transition out of my world here a little bit. Are you going to invite Dave to your wedding now? they might be on the guest list now are you actually getting married I think everything fucking goes I think I'm going to ask you marry

it within two months any advice no I don't know that you'd say that like publicly I cut that out I don't know no no no because you know what I do I always know wait wait wait hold on but

if she gets a 200k then you're going to marry her that's what you've been saying well she passed you in two days well you bought followers you've offered 25000 no I did not you bought followers really are you trying to follow what

what platform Are you trying to get her followers on? I just, listen, here's a deal. I got to be real careful here. But what I'm saying is I think that any time that you guys, if you're in a relationship with a girl, if you guys can kind of be working together in a business, you know, have kind of a business relationship. Are you going to get a pre-nob?

Am I going to pre-nib? Yeah, of course. Yeah. Yeah. I think it's flying in the kitchen when you bring that up. I think, of course, you got to, I think you, no matter what, I don't trust fucking anybody. You say, hey, do you love me for me? But I love her and I trust her, but I don't trust anybody.

I wanted your opinion on dick pics. I sling them I sling them too I mean I don't anymore clearly I have no issue and then I defend Dave to this

to this okay if you're talking dirty to a girl and you're fucking in the zone unsolicited dickpicks are different I would never do that right if you just fire it a fucking boomerang

yeah if you just fire a fucking dick pick unexpectedly where you haven't had communication with a girl before fuck that but if she's playing along with you and if she says stop don't do that again and if she says stop to do it again

I'm done and she says stop I will openly admit, I got a couple boomers out there. And guess what? I'm fucking proud of it. Yeah, for sure. You guys are more similar than I think different. Everyone does that.

It's like international waters. Yeah, but the only reason why it's because he's on the... Yeah, it's true. It's because of who he is. That's why they, where they come after him for it is because of who he is. I've said for what came out with me, if you went with any, like, athlete who is in the public spotlight as much as I have, and you literally, like, they went, down, like, my Instagram list to everybody I've ever connected with. I had people I've never connected with being like, like the chain smoker's fucking

manager being like, why am I going to call from somebody? Like, I don't even know them. Yeah. And if you went down that rabbit hole, you would find way more incriminating stuff than they think they found them. It's just crazy. It's like, it, they, they went with a fine tooth comb through my entire life. Like, and really didn't find anything.

And I had, for everything they think they had on me, I had, like, the proof that it was bullshit. Like, Business Insider? Yeah. So what was that about? I did, I read, like, a lot of your tweets and shit about it. So originally. It's kind of hard to even understand what they were.

Yes. I read the article, and I didn't really even know what they were saying. Yeah, I've seen that. Yeah, they were basically trying to make me seem like a sexual deviant without saying it. They'd be like, this girl had sex with Dave five years ago and it was too rough. But then I'd have, like, be like, I've DM this girl, like, for two years after we hooked up and she, like, want to hook up again, and we did something.

It just made no sense. And you like rough sex. Yes. Who gives a fuck? Yes. And so did the girls, by the way. I'm not like some crazy person. Like, yeah, exactly.

That's where I stand by you, too. And from a distance... Wait, you don't do that shit. I just fuck missionary because I don't have the stamina. I'm being honest. Like, I got to get better at my shit. Yeah, you should learn from Dave. No, I have studied some of the tapes.

Yeah. Yo, could you... Have you? I've seen a couple tapes. No. I know it sucks because you're going through a lot of shit, and I don't know the deep of all of it but I will say this

that you know if you're in talking dirty to a girl and all this shit and you're fucking whatever and you're in the heat of the moment like there's nothing wrong with that if you're single

and you're talking dirty with a girl like and she's playing back like who the fuck cares? Nobody cares. And I didn't care like until this got like that's why the tapes is like I think I was single it's like oh newsflash grown man and sex you can fucking

fuck a girl on a fucking leash and fucking from behind like truth of it like if she's into that you can fucking I think I did. Yo, there was a clip. I don't know how long ago this was, but there were like these coaches, and there were like these coaches for girls that were like, okay, how do you get like a famous guy if

you want to slide into the DMs or whatever? And you said, you DM one thing. You DM me and you say, I fuck. Yeah, right. That one viral. Yeah, but it's true. I know. I know.

Now it's like I'm in a relationship, so. Which is good. Those don't play as well anymore as when like you're a single guy. But yeah. And everybody does it. It's just saying like it wasn't a news flash. If you want to get a celebrity, like in your heart, be like, I fuck. It did go viral.

Again, in a relationship, so it's like those things don't. But honestly, the biggest misconception is that guys and girls are different. They're not. Like, girls want to fuck just as much as guys do and vice versa. So, like, even the girl from sex tape, everyone was saying, oh, shit. She made, like, she wanted it. She's like, I talked her after right away when it went public. I'm like, are you okay?

because I felt bad. She's like, yeah, and I'll find more guys who liked that. Who posted that? She posted that? I have no fucking clue. It had to be you or her, right?

Unless you sent it out. No, I, well, we both had it. I kind of like the role play. Like, we haven't got to that stage of our relationship, but I like, it's like the girl role plays with me a little bit. Like what? Like your fucking legist, Lord of the Rings?

She comes to like a secretary. You've never done anything like that. Yeah, I know, but we're working. But I'm saying in my head, this is why I like, I'm always like, you know, the girl comes in like hot and being like, Mr. Menry, Can I help you in the office?

She's like a secretary You walk in like I'm into that shit Like I'm into Mr. Menry, you look really zapped Mr. Menor, you look really zapped right now They suck you off or something Like you know, like that I'm into it Is that bad? No

I got you're a role play guy for sure no I'm not into any of that He's in a relationship now He's in a relationship now Married man yeah It's tough though because it is By the way it is tough We always talk about it

In people in our situation It's girls throw themselves at you They really do right For the right or wrong reasons Girls throw themselves to you Kyle Yeah it's not not over Just the fuck up, here and there. About a year now.

I've known her for a little longer than that, but like a year. And it is hard. Like, to her credit and the fence, we've gotten some discussion. She's had to read and see things that no girlfriend or significant other should ever have to see or read. And it makes things hard. It can. Yeah. Like, who fucking wants to see?

Like, I won't want to see her old sex tape and shit like that is fucking terrible. For sure. Do you think that, this is changing topics, but do you think, uh, now you're doing like your podcast right BFFs yep does that take away because it's like a TikTok pod right yep does that take away from being like the savage Dave pornois savage and now you're doing this no the only thing is I'm probably a little rough

for like the TikTok crowd I get strikes on me every two seconds to bring in their audience 100% 100% like we were a little bit older it actually what what happened was um I wasn't familiar with any of the names on TikTok and Charlie DeMello and little huddy for gotten a beef and it spilled onto Twitter. I was like, who are these fucking people? Everyone's talking about him.

And that's Josh Richards and Mike Grown. Do you guys know Grown? Everyone knows Grueen. Michael Gruen is character. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's a one and gazillion guy. He knows everything. I literally, the first thing I said to him, he just stopped with Josh.

The first thing I said to Gruen was, you're the most obnoxious human I've ever met. And I grew to really like him. But I said to his face, I'm like, you are one obnoxious dude but i like him um so he connected me with josh we did like a instagram live for him to explain the the beef and i actually liked him and like we kind of clicked and then it progressed to the tic-tock thing but yes it was 100% new medium i didn't think anybody on it knew what barstool was it's like how do we just make sure we get that crowd to know

what barstall is and it definitely accomplished what it is and like brie is on it is turning into a gigantic star herself yeah she's growing like huge people love her so how are the numbers the numbers the numbers doing as well as you anticipated yeah yeah yeah they're very good it's hard to tell a little bit because we do youtube and the pod so they split but yeah it is i can tell because i walk down the street and i'll see like a 14 year old and i know it's like they probably have a josh richard like poster on their door and like oh that's you're the old guy with josh right so yep or brie so But it has. It's done exactly what we wanted it to do.

Does it take away from being like Dave Portnoy, the founder of Barstville, Savage? Because if you watch it, I'm still myself. And I don't go out of my way to be savage. Like, Menry talks shit about me behind my back, and my friend's there to be like, who is this guy? Two words, but yeah, I know. Continue.

Yeah, no, I'm the same. Again, I'm just blunt and short, but I don't try to be savage. But you did be a little bit savage against one of the greatest golfers in the planet with Tiger Woods recently. Didn't you just say something about Tiger? I'm not a tiger guy.

I heard that. You called him a fraud. I've never been a tiger. Yes. I just watched the documentary on HBO for the first time. I haven't seen it. It's fucking... He's like Coach K to me.

How could you go after Tiger Woods? Go ahead. How did you say about Tiger Woods? I just think he's a fraud. Like I... And it's a little backdated, but he was such like a... In the media, like, a goody two shoes

and like everything's so moral and everything that's right and he's running around with all these blondes. I don't care. Like, that's fine. I mean, everyone does their thing, including me.

But then once it went south, he didn't want to talk about it. And it's like his public persona and the way he conducted himself was not who he actually was. And I like when they're... It was like protected by a PR team. Have you seen that documentary?

No, I haven't. His parents like mentally fucked him up. Yeah, I could believe that. In a way, they were savages. They just didn't, they didn't let him like do anything. Like, it was only... golf like he wasn't a lot to have friends he was dating a girl and like they made him like

write a letter to the girl and like just give it to her breaking up with her and like they didn't lose only golf and they just like mentally fucked them i also get myself like i said it on fox news and i didn't know they're going to bring it up that's like an ongoing bit at bar not bit i don't like him like we have guys who fucking love them and i'm on the other side so i was just taking a shot, but I am definitely on a loan. There's not many Tiger haters. But that is the thing about golf. You root for everybody.

You root for nobody. Like, it's fun in sports to root against people. So you wish the tiger had just been more? I want, I root for authenticity. You wish she wasn't protected by like a PR team. Yeah, yeah. But I mean,

that's why people like us don't really get canceled because. Correct. It's like, what are they going to say? Yeah. Like, you're also too. They're like, no shit. Like, we don't care. Exactly.

That added a lot for the sport, though. That was an exciting time when he, when that came out. everybody thinks he's the golden boy and then he's this fucking guy that's fucking all these girls and what was even the excuse when like elin beat him with like the golf club like oh i know it was crazy but he also was getting 200 million 300 million from nike you know what someone told me he has to play by the rules he has to at that point when you're getting that you don't always like you look at a guy like charles barclay for example like i get a feeling he's as authentic as you can possibly be he's maybe obviously tariff woods is tiger woods but you know he's got the

big sponsorships and things like that and he is is who he is. John Daley. Guys, I just... It bites people on the ass when you try to be a goody-two shoes online. Because I'm the second something goes wrong, you're fault. Oh, guess what? You look at a perfect example is Phil Mickelson.

Right. Although you always heard rumors that he was a little bit like of a dick, but I mean, I don't know him. No, he's a gambler, though. I played Phil, I played Phil. We played one-on-one. How much he'd take you for? A lot. A lot.

What's he now? We played 18 holes. Do you like him? Love Phil. Yeah, he's a good guy. I don't even know what... I don't even know what happened. but I think he said something.

It was something with the Saudi Arabia, Saudi Arabia. Yeah, he said, yeah, I know Saudi Arabia, like Hayes Gays and, like, murders, journalists, but we may be able to do stuff that will help the PGA tour. Right. Tough. It was kind of fucked with he said. Tough situation. I know Phil personally.

I love Phil. Phil has always been cool with me. Never have a problem with Phil. Yeah, I mean, he does a lot with our golf podcast. Well, not a lot, but I know he communicates. But, yeah, he skipped the master. It's still dealing with it. He's in hiding.

Yeah. Completely. Yeah. A lot golfers came out pretty heavy against. them yeah everyone did yeah everyone well i mean it's a tough thing to say but in a weird way for what i'm saying i'd rather people say what they feel than hide and say that like say the right thing just for saying the right thing again i don't know it's it's very easy to not like somebody when you haven't met them and you don't know them like i've never met tiger so do you have a good

relationship with any like who's there what athletes are you closest with or any boston people tom Kevin Hayes, who's on the flyers now. No, not Tom. Like, my people, I, it's very short. People I consider, like, friends would be Kevin Hayes and, like, Greg Olson. Really? I thought Tom Brady and you seem like you had, no, not really that close time? Just kind of passing?

Passing. Like, if I saw him, he'd say hello, I'd say hello, but it wouldn't. It's very surprising because you were very support of him for. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm closer with Kraft than I am with Brady. What about Roger Goodale? Still bad? Never met him.

Oh my God. Yeah, never met him. Was that more of a publicity stunt that turned into? Well, yes. It's real. But would I have gone and handcuff myself to NFL headquarters if we weren't Barcelona sports? No, I'm not like a lunatic. We were Patriot fans and real Patriot fans.

Like my emotion and rooting for the Patriots is real. Again, I am not going to have. handcuff myself. I'm not going to be like heading down and screaming Hitler at Roger Goodell as he's walking into a courtroom. But that was all good for Barstool. Right, of course. But I guess what I,

we do it for Barstool. Like I never think of it, this is going to become a national story. It's like for our fans. Yeah. Well, the thing with Barstool is like you're the face. So it's like, it feels like you have to carry Barstool for a while, right? You know, who's going to step up and then take over and kind of like when you're ready?

Yes. Yes and no. I look at it. it's like Dan Big Cat is as big as I am I think Spitting Chicklets is fucking gigantic Yeah biggest hot podcast You got Biz now

Sitting on TNT panel Next to Gretzky Four plays I think The biggest Golf podcast out there Brie is going Bonkers

So we've always And the people who've lost Maccalfee Lost Alice Cooper Lost do you guys know Jenna Marbles? No You guys had Jenna Marbles?

Yeah Really? I hired her out of a tanning salon. We had a female website, Stool-la-la-la. Who is that? She was like... She's an OG YouTuber. Yeah, like one of the first...

Literally, like the first... She has a wax statue in Madame Chousseau. She was massive. Huge. So wait, when did you guys get her? She exploded while she worked for us. So she was an unknown and she did this video like how to trick guys into thing you pretty makeup video and it went bananas. What happened to her?

So she was working for us and then she got offered. job moved to LA, exploded. I think she I think she went through a phase where like with I don't know what it was. When everyone was getting canceled she deleted all her shit I think but I think she just kind of stopped doing stuff. She's just rich and happy. Yeah, she doesn't even have an

IG. Yeah, I think she just went private like made all our money and got out but she literally was like the original old YouTube girl. So is there anybody like I think Bob's included in this but you missed on any talent that like you faded? Because it sounds like you faded Steve but you didn't know

it. No, I didn't fade Steve. They know, Steve was just small, right? He's small, but Kyle had a big part to do. Because what it takes is you can find somebody once they already blow up. It's like, because Kyle's had a big part on this podcast. I mean, I was already known and whatnot, but building me up, I think Steve is kind of the same thing. So you just get talent thrown at you all the time. I also don't know that Steve would have, he probably fits with you guys better than he would fit with us.

So you never know. But I didn't miss somebody who I would be like. like, oh, he really wanted to work here and we thought about her, she, and we said no. It's got to be Menary. Yeah. But Menry, you are already like, like, you had more, when you, and me, you were bigger on Instagram than I, like, I was. Like, I wasn't really on Instagram. No.

I'll still trade places with you who you want any time, bank accounts and all that. McAfee, people always say, it's like, oh, we should have kept McAfee. There's no chance we're going to keep McAfee. He's so big and so talented that he could do. He always, like, do you guys see him in, like, WrestleMania? he's killing it like four years ago or three years ago and worked i remember sitting i'm like what what's your plan is i'm going to be w w f champion wwee he said that four years ago yes like he had a ring that was his plan he can do whatever he wants so what was his deal with the gambling

100 mil three years you said oh i think it was 30 was it 30 wasn't it a year yeah 30 a year yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah congrats the pat did you too did you try with pat because pat's like the thing with pat is it seemed like anytime there's a separation with Barstool and somebody, like a caller daddy, Michael Rapport, there's always some drama. It seemed like McAfee's was a peaceful separation. He kind of criticized

the business side of things a little bit. Not me or Erica, and I still get along with him and respect him and all that. A lot of times it is peaceful. And by the way, like, we also, I forgot to mention a million dollars worth of game, which is actually like, do you guys know who they are?

That's under you guys? Yeah. Oh, shit. They're fucking huge. Yeah. They get Any rapper they want, and they're hilarious. It's like the biggest music or urban podcast there is. They're fucking huge and they're hilarious. Really? Yeah, they're popping. So we just find the guys early.

But like people leave, as long as they don't sabotage us, I'm fine. We're like a record label type situation. You know, there's always going to be the inherent talent wants more money. And management's like, well, we paid you early because we want to explode. once your contract's done. Was that the magazine? My favorite guy that you guys have is Caleb. He's blowing up to the Hasbullet.

Is that that one-on-one guy? Yeah. The best. He is the best. Shout out. Shout out him, man. The best guy's fucking. By far.

That's fucking hilarious. He has fucking hilarious. That's the best podcasters I've ever seen. So, I mean, that's what you mean when you're like, without me. But then you look down and it's like, oh, they have a pretty extensive roster of people. They just all do wildly different stuff. But does Caleb go and get these guys on his own? Like, he goes, how the fuck does he get?

Hasbulla like that? It was through Dana, like Robbie. Dana hooked that up? Whoa, whoa, whoa, what? Bob, you fucking call that guy right now. I don't make a stop to that if that's real fast. Dana made that happen? So it's Osbulla. Behind our back, Mr. White is doing. Well, Dana got us Trump. He got them Hasbula, you know?

Mentory at 3 a.m. had a little bit to do with that too. All right, don't let you forget that. Robby Fox. Did Dana do that for a favor for you or for Caleb? Interesting. Robbie Fox, we have a UFC guy, and he was with Dana. Yeah, he wrote an article. I just want to point this out. He wrote an article about you the other day. Who did?

That fucker, I don't know. Robbie? He chirped you for... Well, that's fair. He's fair a game to be chirped in our world. But, I mean, everyone at Barstle still chirps you, which is like... Well, yeah. I'm sure that doesn't go up the porno.

There's still some bad blood because I've seen when David Spade goes on there. He says something good about Bob. I don't read it. I don't read it. I don't read it. Well, I pay attention to see a long time ago, but he came on a barstool show where you read the cards and you throw him after? Oh, it's David Spade.

And yeah. One minute man. Yeah, David is a great friend of mine. No, but he said something about Bob, and then they start saying, yeah, we don't fuck with that guy. And then this guy, Robbie wrote. We said it from the top. If I don't fuck with it, it generally goes across.

It's awesome that you have that loyalty. Yeah, oh, yeah. It has to be. Why would you think if Kyle is a problem with somebody I'm not going to fucking have a problem with them? It's just as what it is. Yeah, that would take, if somebody knew I legit had a problem with it, maybe this cools it. But if someone knew that, like, it goes across. Now, they will ask that we've had other people that it's like, yeah, I don't mind.

Write that article fucking right now. No, it wasn't bad, but, I mean, he's good. that Robbie guy, he's good. But he wrote, like, when Nate Diaz responded to your tweet and was like, what did he say, I'll beat your ass? Did you guys set that up? Oh, the Mazel shit? Bob set him up.

Yeah. Yeah. So here's a deal. It's an ongoing investigation. I actually, like, Kyle, to say, on record, because I don't do well with, with, like, this shit. I don't do the internet shit. I don't do the internet shit.

I don't do the internet shit when we're doing internet shit. I made a mistake. No, but I don't do that. I made a mistake. I don't know, like, for certain that Bob set him up. All I can say is that I did, like, I was eating. I was eating like I think I was eating like some

some waggo or something and I look over and I saw Bob texting Mosvidal So I don't know for sure that he set him up But I did see them texting at dinner So here's a deal It looked in the video like he was kind of accusing You have said it out

You know here's a deal I pride myself in being a loyal Unlike the rest of this table And then I saw Mosvado slide you like Like a big chunk of cash Like as he was running away Like he just gave you this stack Kyle this is real death threats

I'm getting to my family And real stuff This joke needs to end All right I mean Portnoy already by putting my brother out there and sister That was one thing and now you my own team is coming after me I'm not coming out Speaking the truth I don't know

We're not involved He was there anyways What happened was plain and simple We were having dinner okay We're sitting there Like anything else we take our guests out to dinner Okay Or we take our guests wherever the fuck

They want to go afterwards A long story short I took my phone out like I always do And I documented the moment Here we are the king of motherfucking Miami And then paned around the table Whatever posted it At the same time

milk boys also posted it too which was then reposted by Colby Covington that night. Colby posted it himself. Yeah. As a matter of fact, the source was Nelk boys. I'm not making this a big thing. No, but Colby posted it himself too. Like he reposted it on his own Instagram. Okay. Well, just let the people know that I was never texting

Mazvedol. I don't like to deal with this show. I'm just kidding. Yeah, I was a troll. I don't know how people believe that. Yeah, well, I got serious. My mother called me. There was a package in the mail that she didn't want to over. Who's threatening you? Comington. I think that was because of the TMT video, though. Me coming talk every day. we're good so why would

why would mazvazol's people it's just i love mazvah by both people i got fucked by both people i got fucked by people who were like bob you know people were saying that like i was getting those same dms oh word i'm just a boy set up colby like you just fell into it and not triggered yeah i don't do well with the shit i fucked you is you're you talking to colby with TMZ or the video yeah it looked like and i thought he said like how do you know here i'll defend myself right now you know why because you're good guy you guys went

in the car okay well we were getting in two different cars great you guys went in the car when Colby was fucking jumped You guys darted off And I said I'm no man left behind that I'm staying with him Was it no man left behind her? You got to cover my ass Was driving and he wanted to get the fuck out of there

Well if Spobby wanted to get the fuck out of it I don't care who wanted to get out of there There was one man who stood behind And what I did was when I apologized to him I repeated myself I said my bad To Colby in that TMZ clip It looked like my bad And he's like how the fucks do you know him here

I'm like you're all of the internet You're hanging with the Nelforce You're saying my bad is admitting hey I did something wrong No what's saying my bad is it From unbiased like third party I would never set any... But I couldn't really tell who made no sense because you were whip.

You do like side deals. There's an article on Barstrel. If Moswell came with a big bag. If Moswell came with like 30,000 plus, you know what I mean? We're maybe interested in letting the location drop a little bit. You know what I mean? So, that's what it is.

So what having you accomplished that you want to accomplish? Stop. Do you know how fast you were going? I'm going to have to write you a ticket to my new movie, The Naked Gun. Liam Nissan. Buy your tickets now. I get a free Tilly Dog.

Chili Dog, not included. The Naked Gun. Tickets on sale now. August 1st. I don't know. I don't really think of it that way. It's like a lame answer, but. One more thing, too. There is, like, I found this photo, too.

So, I don't know. Like, they have passed. Interesting. What is the photo? Looks like you're buddy, buddy with him. No, you know, it's actually funny is I, uh, yeah, I know you guys. You guys are such dick. I'm just saying, like.

Hey, let me tell you what, Dave, I'll tell you what. I'll be honest with you. I don't know. I built up the Nalk audience a little bit. You know, I'm, I'm in a good. spot here. I think that there's a room for bar stool, you know for... Because what? You know, just the way I get treated around here sometimes, if there's

any, if there's any room for hire... How'd you to me? Just through the internet. Through the internet. I think... You guys wanted to call me six times in one day. That's your move. You are a girl like that. You slide into slabs, DMs. And I will never fucking ever deny that. Because I'm a hungry dog. I think it's actually good, though. Because people think it's funny. I mean, I called Dana White, literally. The night I wanted to get Trump

at 3 in the morning, fucked up in the hotel room. When I told Kyle, we want Trump, because I had the Secretary of Defense and some CIA agent coming in and talking about Ukraine, Russia, because I wanted to hit that mark. I was like, fuck that, let's get Trump. Three in the morning, me and Steve are fucked him in the hotel room. 35 times I called Dan Dwight on FaceTime. Yeah, but I

right, but you already know. And how many times Donald Trump Jr.? Probably 12. But DJ Jr. You guys already knew him, though. You already did shit with him. But it doesn't matter to get him in eight hours because we needed, because I also had plans for them to come, you know. How big of a moment was that for you when you went to the White House and

It was surreal. It was surreal. I had like 24 hours notice, basically. That was kind of, I think, the first time he delved into, I guess, our world. Yeah. And he was still sitting president. How'd that happen? No, I don't.

No, I only drank high-newins. He can't. Wait, but how'd that happen? How'd you go to fucking, the White House interview Trump like that? They're fucking so good. You understand. Mall, I'll be honest, these happy dads are fucking. They're the best in the game.

I believe it. I think we'd win a blind taste test. And I went it. I went in whenever I go to golf courses. If you guys would lose. I've gone to golf courses. High news are the best. They're different, though.

They're actual vodka and juice. Yeah, we drink one thing around here. I know you too. You guys are the most logoed out of crew. They're better than cacti. I'll give you that. No, high noons are fire. But anyhow.

Time stamp right there. Yeah, yeah, right. Hey, I was like, should I wear the high noon? I won't. We don't edit around here, Dave. What's that? We don't edit. They just called me

The White House called you? Yeah, they're like, hey, we want you to come interview Trump and the Rose Garden And I was like, holy shit My dad hates Trump, hates him And I wasn't sure Because you guys have delved

Into Trump world Like if I interacted as much as you did I wouldn't need security Like for whatever reason You guys don't get the same I don't think backlash, I personally It was also a different time, too. Crazy.

It's a different time. Look what's happening right now. It's a different time now. We got about the perfect time. But he's still a lightning rod. Well, what was your feedback from that? Positive or negative? It's both.

You get both extremes. And obviously, I do go on Fox News and things like that. But, you know, the people who don't like Trump, it's their, everything's connected. And if I never want to be viewed as, like, political, because I don't care. It's like the old Michael, Jordan. Like red states by shoes, blue states by shoes. Divide your audience. Yeah. It's like, I want

everyone to kind of like us. It's just a tough world to be in. Like, do you guys get extreme hate when you interact with them? Well, I think we do. When you did it, it was different because he was very hated. Yeah. We got him and we got no backlash barely because Biden's at an all-time low right now. Yeah, there's still, I feel like if I interacted with him again, I would still get crucified. And he's got around for president again. It's going to be wildly political. See, that's when it'll be very fucking interesting. Who are you voting for next? Who you want for president next election?

Who's running? I mean, say with the sanctus Trump. Oh, there's two bad options to me. Trump and Biden are both real bad options. Trump more so because I think he'd be so divisive, like intentionally so. Like they are intentionally divisive, and that's their audience. But in this country, regardless of what you think of him and his politics, I think he does get a bad rap for a lot of stuff.

But people, it doesn't matter. He's broken brains. What do you get from going on Fox News then? Huge audience. Like, what do I get from going on Nelke Boys? Huge audience. Like, honestly, it's areas we're not at. Just try to grow their brand.

But I go on Tucker all the time. You want to talk about a dude who's like loves and hated. He's what's that? Are you guys like boys off Fox News? Yeah, we'll text every once in a while. Yeah, he's a bro. But he knows I don't talk politics. Yeah.

Like, if I'm on, he doesn't ask me, he'll be like, I heard he got stung by a B. Like, I mean, we talk about shit that's not political. It doesn't even matter. Just going on and associated people who don't like you. It confirms what they think. People like you. Confirmes what they think. I want to hats off to you, too, during, and not to be whatever, but what you did.

For the right or wrong reasons, which I know it was the right, was the small business fund that you did. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Which was really good. How much money was raised? We raised over 40 million. 40 million bucks. Yeah. You saved a couple fucking.

businesses that it was there was one in a I don't know if it was the port I forget where it was somewhere in my small town and I remember them coming up to me and saying Portnoy saved our business so what was your plan behind that the whole entire thing just it was super organic so

I basically got challenged I was talking about the lockdowns at one point it's like how these small businesses is going to survive it's like they've already been shut down and it was the second wave in New York so again no indoor dining and all the shit it's like these there's no way They're not getting money. They're getting nothing.

And somebody challenged me, like, stop talking about it, do something about it. It's like, all right, well, I'll try to. I see what we do. And that's how it started. I put my own money in, like 500 grand of my own money. And it's like, hey, we need support. And if you're a business, small business, bar, restaurant, bowling alley, you name it, dry cleaner, that needs help to get through until the country opens again.

We'll pay your bills monthly. Tell us what you need. Electricity, rent, employees, make sure your employees. are getting paid and the money just came flying in like once people saw the videos of us entrusted us that we were getting the money out quickly the money just came flying in and I started guilting yeah like people I knew like how did you go about choosing because there's obviously every business is coming at that point yeah so we had a team we had like it was a ton of work like we pivoted because we asked for their records and we had to call to verify because there is a lot

of fraud with charity um so yeah like probably a five people Liz Gonzalez specifically works for us. They'd narrow it down every day. I'd get like 10 or 20 companies. I'd read them over and then if they made it to me they generally got picked. So it was again, very similar to you guys.

Having an audience that's real and they'll step up when it's needed so they did. Which was nice. That's amazing. How long we've been talking for by the way? An hour and 15 minutes? I want to just touch on that business inside your shit. I feel like we didn't talk. So what did they like, they came out with that

like just pierce smear campaign, you think? I mean, they took, they basically said it was a girl who actually originally reached out to me. She's like, I want to write a glowing profile on you. That's how it starts. Like, no, I'm not interested. Sorry. Because I had been around the block that nobody wants to do that on me. They just want to trash me. And then over the course of a year, I started getting emails and my text from girls that I hadn't talked to him forever. like or that I'd never even met being like there's a reporter snooping around asking about you I'm talking how creeped are you are you at that point I was very and I also knew it was going to be weird I also knew it was going to be very bad you're saying that uh like like girls he like met like time ago we're like yeah

there's a reporter asking or girls I'd never met like if a girl like what kind of questions though like have you ever slept with them as they're hooked up ever done inappropriate reporters were hitting up old girls that he had hooked up with not only girls after the video came out yeah not only girls I had hooked up with girls i never met like girls who would make a snapchat or a video being like with my name in it it's a big story for her if she gets something right yeah and in in my opinion they got nothing they but they did find and for a variety of reasons they found one girl who i'm convinced is linked in with sophia like followed both her and another guy and um they had three girls in the original two i had actually hooked up with one made no sense i think her parents found out

she hooked up with me and they got mad at her and there's literally like I have all these DMs with her after another one they basically said we had rough sex and it got too rough and I didn't stop they are also in the same breath being like no it's totally consensual but it got rougher than I want that's essentially what they said but they used flowery language and then they had a girl I never even met the third girl what the fuck is her name she's involved in everything I don't know she was well do you fear getting canceled or what

no no what scared me did that scare you Or what? Yes. That's the only time I'm scared because I didn't I happened to have

the DMs and texts with these girls after the fact one of them was I hooked up with one of the girls I hooked up

with the Nantucket and was on a Finsta documenting the whole weekend I didn't know she did that somebody who's a stool he's like

I know who the girl is just to clear your name she documented the entire weekend and she hated fucking Trump we got in a fight It was during that

I interviewed Trump like a day after And she has all these things like not my proud as fuck I wish I didn't fuck I'm like of course he likes Trump And that was what we actually got in a fight about like Fire layer no What's that? Was it fire? No

No No it's boring That's why the key is Dave You always just be respectful to every woman you come across I do in just missionary sex That's what I do I do missionary That's not your thing is respectful

You take it to another level Which is fine which I don't disagree with Because I wish I admire the way you have sex with women because I wish I could do that. The better. Like, I'm serious. Like, I've actually seen some of the videos. Why don't you?

You know, stamina is a big thing. I need to get in the gym. I need to get in the gym a lot more because my stamina is very low. So, like, my... Everybody's stamina is low. I know. Because, like, I usually, like, I like to get back to work, you know? And so, like, I just want to go real quick.

Well, it sounds like you're using your then, man. Like, you need to, like, be more. No, I feel bad. I need to, I need a pleasure or more. And what I'm actually going to do is I'm actually going to review the tapes. I hope you can't find it. It's a federal offense, Bob. What?

It's a federal offense. If what? To watch my tapes. Really? Yeah. So then I shouldn't watch the time? No, it's a federal crime. But it's viral on the internet.

No, good luck finding it now. It's a viral crime. Oh, really? It's like revenge porn type shit. All right. Well, then, fuck that. We didn't put it out. All right.

Then out of respect, I'm not watching the tapes. Thank you. Seems like you were familiar with them. I, well, of course. You Pondo. That's a federal crime. It's a federal crime. Well, here's a deal.

Well, here's a deal. Let me tell you something. Let me tell you something, okay? Of course, with our little beef that we had, I got the taste, but being an honorable gentleman, I didn't do anything with them or do anything or say anything or comment on them because I wish I could have that kind of sex. Honestly, the truth of the matters, I felt really bad. Not for me. I could care less if people watch me have sex, to be honest. It's already out there. I felt bad for the girls.

It's like they didn't fucking sign up for this shit. I don't know how they got out. Well, what do you mean they didn't sign up for that shit? Aren't they? It was like four years old. Oh, bro, who's taking the video? Oh, I was a video guy. I think if you film it, nowadays, if you film it, just assume it's going to film it.

I would never, I am scarred now. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, if it's four years ago, like, who the fuck wants to say? Like, timeout, isn't it okay, isn't it okay if the girl agrees, like, we both liked it's fucking hot? Like, it's hot, like, you can watch it later, you get a little turned on, it's fucking, it's hot. It's just not supposed to be meant for, like, public, it's like, we weren't trying to do it. Do you know how many people on the daily? Bro, do you film your 30-second missionary sessions?

No, but I've definitely asked a couple girls before been like, you know, I've been in the moment, like, 100% being like, yo, can I fucking film you suck in my dick? Girls fucking like it. And like, it's both people. I was asking to get that cut out. Well, bro, his, his shots. No, I'm not. No, but it's like, but like at the same time,

it's only been like girls that I have a trusting relationship with that I've asked to do it. And if they're like, no, I'm just like, I cool. But, like, everybody has. Yeah, some chicks love that. Listen, and even the B.I. article, they're like, Dave, filmed them without their consent. Like, the girl says, it's like, dude, like, the phone, I'm holding it in your face while you're sucking my dick. Like, what are you talking about? Right, right.

You know it's happening. You know it's happening. If there's a fucking hidden teddy bear, like in a, where was that movie, meet the parents, then you got an issue. We were sending it back and forth. Like, we're sending it back and forth and hooking up again after. Like, what are you talking about? Yeah, and like, whatever, you're playing both sides. That's, I, I, it tries me nuts.

But his shit's entertaining. like no one wants to see you 15 second missionary like well that's my first post that's my first post on our own defense again that's a federal offense I will remind you well no I'm not watching it but I seem to be aware no well we all saw the clip well that's what I'm saying that is a federal offense

wait so hold on what if I've already seen it though well they can I still that's like what if you committed murder in the past they can still get you well I listen I'm on your side so I'm just saying everyone who's seen am I going down here is this the Portnoy double movie or it's like come in here now have a video admission of guilt that Dave can't take that

Dave got me finally He finally fucking got me Yeah no I don't It looked like you It looked like you I don't know if it was you actually I'm getting a little confused It looked a little bit like you

We did one of those emergency Press conference like letters Being like there's a There was a muscular man having like Great sex that may have been Dave When that goes viral though And it gets out there Is that do you look at that as like

Yeah this is a content opportunity Or is it like no that's No the first one I dealt with A little differently Like the first I I have never had people. I was walking through New York. It didn't matter who the person was like, saw a sex tape.

So a sex, hey, sex. Like, hey, hey, good to see. It was a weird day, to be sure. But no, because of the girl, I want to go away. Sure. There's another person, like, I'm thick skin. I don't get to give the fuck. These girls, it's like, who knows what that would do mentally if it got out?

Like, I didn't want to deal with that. Nobody should really. It's really, there's lines, that's one of them. Right. It just sucks, because here's the deal. Everybody fucking has their shit If you're not in the limelight Everybody does their little shit right

It just happens that you're in the line light And whoever is posted or whatever the agenda was To not think that Yeah they're trying to get to me But there's an innocent like girl involved here That you're could like really fuck her up mentally But where did but then how would if you're Then how would the girl have

Who fucking knows they're on VISA I've had everything on their son Like phones stolen You show a friend Hacking All that's fucking those. Remember that? I'm so old. Remember the Fappening? That was like one of the biggest things in the history

in the internet. Do you remember what that was? What is that? What is happening? All the celebrities' phones got hacked. Like, all their sex shit was out there. And it was the guy's spooky go. That was like internet 1.0. The guy went to jail. I'm not going to be in a relationship after this podcast.

Why? I just said a lot of shit that I just said some shit that Somers probably be mad about. I don't think you said anything not bad. You didn't say anything. I didn't. You said you want to do role play as fucking I would love to be role player. Bro, I love it. Like, this is happening in, like, summer's, because summer's hot, this shit.

And when she, like, turns it on. Have you seen his girl or no? No. Oh, I got to show you. I feel like you're, I don't want to. Have you seen his girl? I haven't, actually, by the way. She's beautiful.

I'm glad that you're in a good relationship. That's cap as fuck. Dave's girl? I've never looked at Dave's profile in four years. That's fucking cap, bro. I've never looked at Barstall sports. I think you said it was popping up on TikTok, though. I've never looked it.

What pops up, and I just slick this side, but after this interview, you know, I, you know. Now you're a huge fan after the interview. You know, now we might have to renegotiate a tux tape. He's wearing a barstow hoodie on the next pod, this guy. You know. Barry the Hatchet. But it is what it is. I like Barry in the Hatchet as well.

But, uh, this has been fun. Yeah, this has been fun. I'm glad we got to, uh, anything else you think? I think we covered everything. Last thing real quick, I want to know is a, as a Boston diehard fan. Tom Brady, coming back again. Did you feel that retirement was a little, uh, I thought he did it quick. It was quick.

Like, you lose and the emotions coming back having to, like, you know, go through a full season. So I wasn't surprised that he came back. I don't root for him when he's in Tampa. Yeah. I'm Patriot, like, Patriot, Patriot, Patriot. Yeah, but a Patriot, Patriot doesn't go from Boston HQ headquarters to move to New York to the enemy state. No, well, that's... You could have very easily conducted your business out of Boston.

Not really. No? No. Because when you're in New York, you have all the celebrities doing, like, the media tours, and we want to get them on our podcast. like Erica, we want to have been at higher. It's easier to get talent for what we do in New York than it is in Boston. Did you take shit for it by going to New York?

Oh, yeah. And I'd like to go back to Boston. Like, I don't like New York. It's too dirty for me. It's gross. When are you going to retire? I got now three years on my contract, at least, and then we'll see. But I think I'll always do the gambling pen stuff. So is the hatch of bearer. Are you guys boys again or not?

This is his girl. Enough is enough here. Enough is enough. She's a beautiful girl, David. And David, actually, you know what? I want you to give a speech at the wedding. I think that happened. Well, are you guys,

is the Hatchet Barrier? Are you guys friends again? We were never friends. No, we were never friends. Okay, but is the blocking, like, the following happening? Listen, this isn't BFFs, all right? We have a real podcast. Wait, he's not, I'm not blocked.

I'm not blocking him or anything. No, we're good. I think you had him blocked for a little bit. I'll tell you what. He would. I think, by the way, I think, tweet, delete, delete, tweet, delete. David, but let me tell you this. David, my tweet delete, I want to defend myself here.

I delete tweets every four hours. I'll do it. That's a crazy move. Why? I would like to see you guys be friends, boys, at one point. I think we could do that. My contract's up in three months. So let's talk, all right?

Secretary of Defense. Negotiate. Government agencies and Barstool, military, redo. Use it for leverage. There it is. I love it. All right. A lot of fun.

All right. A lot of fun. Awesome. Thanks, bro. Good to go. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No worries.