FULL SEND PODCAST - Deion Sanders x Nelk Boys | Ep. 123

Episode Date: May 9, 2024

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Too big guess. I went to school here. I told you guys that, no? I didn't know you went to school here, actually. Yeah, I got a degree. I almost brought it. Or I got a diploma. I didn't see any photos of year on campus or anything.

Fucking crazy. They need a statue. I want a statue outside. Yeah? Why? I don't know. I just feel like I deserve it. Brad dog fucked his flight, too.

Yeah, Brad. I think his assistant, like, picked him up from his house late. He said he was going to fire her, so. We'll see. Big one for Brad to miss, though. Yeah. Yeah, no. Coach Prime. Yeah, this is huge.

You love Coach Prime, Salim, right? Yeah, I've been watching all their, so his older son makes YouTube videos on all the, all the players and stuff. So I've been watching their content every day. It's been dope to watch. Where does that? No, his older son, Dionne Sanders Jr. Oh, what the hell? Yeah, he makes YouTube videos.

I just like watching them, bro. It's like so intense and so, like, I love it. I've actually seen Travis Hunter does it too. Yeah, he has a YouTube channel as well. Crazy views. So raw, no, like, if that guy had, like, legit editing. video bang. They all do. I think Shiloh, yeah, Shador. They all make YouTube.

Half a million views in a day. It's pretty dope. And then they got us doing this talent show shit after. I guess there's going to be 4,500 people here. We didn't even know that, but that was like kind of a condition of this whole podcast. We're judging a talent show here that's like hosted by Coach Prime. Loboosie's performing, 4,500 people. And the guy just told me like, we're actually choosing who's winning and shit.

Yeah, that's going to be fun. And then what are we doing right after this? Yo, we got to go to my neighbor Felix, my favorite bar. Uh-huh. It's right on Pearl, best margaritas ever. Great tacos, great margaritas, went there the whole time I went here. So we got to go there. Hell yeah.

You guys down? I'm down. All right, late. And then right after this, we're fucking, we're hopping on a jet. There's no flights out, and we're going, we're going to fucking tornado chasing. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to be honest. And I know you're not coming. It's just complete bullshit.

But, bro, for a guy who. Are you scared? No, I just want to, I need to focus on them I'm not, I don't fear shit But bro, for a guy who like is so back and forth with menry You're putting all your trust into Two days of him saying, yo, we're going to tornado chasing He's been, Bob has been talking about doing this tornado chasing since I kind of met him

Like we've been talking about doing this for three years And he connected me with the guy's names Reed You could search him up He's like a professional storm chaser So I think I talk about to him like a year ago and then I just let him know like yo whenever it's time just like let us know and then we reconnected again like three months ago and we're just in a group chat and then he just what's the deal with this guy though he's he's a fucking like is he fucked up in the head or

what's the deal I mean you got to be fucked up in the head a little bit to be a storm chaser but like are you you feel confident putting our lives in this guy's hands I think so I watched the video and shit and they have that dominator car what's like looks like a fucking transformer and they literally go inside the tornado. That's risky. That's fucking terrifying. Yes. But these guys are pros.

Like, they know which way the tornado's going and shit. Like, these guys are professional storm chasers. Nothing about this sounds that, like, enticing to me. I'm going to be honest. Last night is. The more that we talk about it, the less I want to do it. I just don't see myself dying this way. I just don't.

I know that sounds crazy, but. I don't know. I think it'll be an epic video. But yeah, we're going to catch a jet, and we're flying to fucking Kansas City tonight. And we're going to be in that area, like Oklahoma, driving around with that Dominator car, storm chasing for the next two days. Apparently, there's not a lot of sleep. Get the Zaps ready. Got them on deck.

If you want to make a last minute decision, turn into Ace, we got you, baby. No, no, no, no, no. Ace is gone. You guys will see the video about it. How did you play golf with Gaichi today? Played golf with Gaichi, yeah. How's his game? He got down to the watch. He's pretty good.

He's like an 11 handicap, 12 handicapped. So did he beat you? It went down to 17, and then he was up to going into 18. And then he said, yo, if you want to press, we could press, or I could press, and I pressed and won the last hole. So pressing, meaning if I win, I don't own nothing. And if he wins, yeah, definitely nothing. That's pretty much it.

But you had action? Yeah, had action. It was 10K. Bro, how crazy is this? 5 to 10, yeah. Well, welcome to my city. I think I can claim Colorado at this point. Yeah, right?

Court side, fucking N. Wait, so you were a legend here? Some would say, it depends who you ask, but, uh, bro. I mean, the amount of chicks coming foot traffic in and out of my room was crazy. Like, really? Yeah. I doubt that. No, I was hitting the books a lot.

Spent a lot of time at the Wolf Law School library. Yeah, no, I was, go to his class, go home, eat the cafeteria lunch. Yeah, I had a high GPA. Yeah. But I still got one or two. in there you know you guys not is there is there hot chicks here or no it's actually a really good school i appreciate it but it's all the girls that couldn't get into like u sc UCLA they all come to see you so you get the callie last time i was here it was oh yeah we've parted you here

i've had my time here all right i'll get prime in here all right let's do it no we just we just go for it honestly it's been awesome to watch like The process and everything, so all the luck to you guys this year. Thank you. Where are you guys from originally? I'm from Toronto, Canada. Okay. California.

Toronto is a clean city. I played there in baseball, man. So. You played for the Js? No, no. You went to play. Yeah, yeah. How was it when you went to play that?

As a matter of fact, we played the Jays in the Roe Series there. Oh, shit. So, so. In 92? 93? Yeah. The Rays. We played against the Jays.

That's crazy. Yeah. So, beautiful. city clean city is unbelievable man i forget you're the only one that's been to a single ball and a world series right i try i try that's an impressive fucking accurate it is for sure where you from california where area san ozre okay oh san oz i love san ozette too i lived in fremont yeah yeah it's like 30 minutes out right when i play for uh the niners i lived in fremont what was your favorite place you ever played at like city wise

Atlanta. Come on, man. Atlanta, man. It ain't too much top Atlanta. Dallas has been, unbelievable. I still live in the country part of Dallas. I had love for Cincinnati. I really did. I love Cincinnati playing for the Reds there. But it would have to be Atlanta. What about Atlanta? Atlanta was a chocolate city, man. I had never seen. I had never seen prominent black folk like I did when I played. I didn't know that existed coming out of California. college. What's up, boss? Pleasure, man. Death Road, the Steve D-O-D-O-double jizzle. That's my doubt. Yes, sir. He didn't come to a game this year, did he? No, no, Snoop ain't come. Snoop has come everywhere else, though. Snoop is family. Yeah, family with us, too.

Yeah, that's right. So I guess we're all tied in one tree. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Different dad is, though. Yeah. Different dads. What's going on? You look good, bro. You look fit. I always do. We're just talking a backstory, man. Nice. We're talking about Atlanta. Yeah. Oh, okay. Atlanta's popping.

They asked me one of my favorite cities. Lanna without a shadow without. Yeah. For all reasons you think. Atlanta's different now, though. It's a different to Lanna. What you guys may know is totally different than what I knew. Why?

How so? I don't think it's as much crime as many people. It wasn't as many people for certain. But Atlanta was truly progressive, but it was popping, man. I mean, I think that was the wrong. rise of freak nick when i was there what luke was doing that and all the guys was doing it was unbelievable man it's a beautiful city what about the culture now i don't go so i don't know i don't go i don't travel much you know i'm so locked into this and locked into to my kids i

don't i don't go nowhere i'm a home guy what do you guys got going on this weekend oh my god um tonight we have a talent show yeah so we're judging that it's right you guys are judging And I got a funny feeling you, somebody may perform as well with one of you guys. You guys may be in the talent show. I got to think of my talent, but then, yeah. You got multiple talents. Yeah. If you grab that mic right now, like you grabbing it, I'm pretty sure you got some talent.

Thank you. I mean, there's a lot. 5,000 people? It's going to be a lot of people. We have the talent show. I think we have an event for the, what is it, alumni boosters or somebody? I'm asking you guys like you know. Yeah.

I didn't even know what the hell we were doing. Wait, so who's performing? Is students, players? Students? anybody they had to register in some of the videos that they sent in was hilarious man and there's a winning prize or yeah yeah but I think it's 2,100 for the students you know that's a lot of money on a college campus you want to you should match it bro you can match it yeah let's match it all right let's match it yeah okay we'll do that we'll put up 21 too you know

yeah yeah we'll match it let's do it we'll match it there you go but it's going to be fun then I think we got the game Saturday praying God it don't rain Saturday that Lil Wayne and others are performing. Is Boosie performing tonight? He's performing tonight, yeah, yeah. Oh my God, I forgot all about that. Boosey, Boosey's legend. Yeah, I'm from the south.

So Boosey, Boosey's going to kill it. That's what he does. Yeah, going through some things. Yeah, set it off. Always through, the key word, through. He speaks his mind, too. He don't stop in the middle. He goes through him.

When's Lowell-Wain here tomorrow? He'll be probably here Saturday. If I know why, he'll be here Saturday morning. How did you guys originally meet? Honestly, I think it goes back to when he was dealing with some things, and he was getting ready to be detained, and they reached out to me to talk to him, to make sure he was straight, and we've been, like, full flat ever since. How, you remember when that was? I have no idea. It's like Snoop, man.

I mean, Snoop, since Snoop is 21. Like, we've been down. Damn. Yeah, we've been down for a long time. And when he first, before he started hitting, his album was about to drop. And he and the dog pound, all of them came to Texas and came to kick it with me in a Super Bowl party. Then we just, we've been tight ever since, man. So you've kept these relationships as a player into coaching?

Well, as a, as the homie. Yeah. But they continue to support you no matter what you do. Right. And vice versa. Right. No matter what they do. What about your relationship with, uh, the homey?

LeBron I've seen that. LeBron is awesome. LeBron is, LeBron is, I interviewed LeBron, I was working with CBS. I interviewed LeBron because he was popping, he was in high school. Everybody's like, hey man, this guy brought a Hummer. I'm like, a Hummer.

You guys are tripping about a Hummer? I say, this kid's mom could go to any bank and get a credit line of a million dollars. You better be lucky that he's not getting a Rose Royce. A Hummer? So that's how we started. I went to high school, his high school and interviewed him when he was

a high school and I was always down for him and he always had been a Cowboys fan Whoa, that's crazy. Just letting you know we had Michael Porter Jr. He was on here Tuesday. So the Nuggets are up too well. I don't know who you're rooting for, but. I like certain players.

I don't like whole teams. Yeah. Yeah, I like certain players. When you got those personal relationships, yeah, I like, you know, it's hard for me to say, I want this team to win. I don't get down like good. Who's your guys?

Who's your guys in the NBA? It's a bunch of them, man. It's a bunch of them. I'm kind of detached from this generation, but I know guys, like if some guys are dealing with something, I'll reach out to them. Or, you know, they're sideways in life. I'll reach out to them and just try to encourage them.

Not that we may have a personal relationship, but I want to see him win, man, on and off the field. You bring so much hype to, like, the team with, like, just the energy and all the celebrities that come to the game. Does that, do you ever get any, like, backlash from people here? Oh, not here. No, it's good for the schools, maybe? right right the country because they can't understand the formula like when somebody don't understand you

people condemn what they don't condone so they don't understand the formula because they can't equate how is this happening like this ain't even his generation why in the world of these people come in here you know to support what they're doing what's going on and they can't understand it and i'm god has blessed me man yeah god is blessed me have you ever wanted a go back at someone that has talked down on all the time multiple times if i strike back to a fool who's the fool yeah yeah you know if i'm in an argument with a fool they're not going to know who the fool is i ain't got time for that and uh some things in life man i just really don't have time for someone told me a long time ago that people you got to pay attention and people pay attention

to you. I don't like that word pay attention. Why would I pay? That means it's going to cost me something to listen to a fool. 100%. I'm not going to let you cost me. So I'm more attracted to positivity than I am to negativity. So I'm not the kind of guy that goes on social and look for negativity. I'm attracted to positivity. Last year, I mean, I think I started with Wayne and maybe offset. I came to USC when the baby came. Okay. So is that something where are you hitting these guys up or do they start hitting you? No, I got to come to a game.

Sam, I'll tell you, I don't even know who's coming. They just want to pull up. I don't, yeah, yeah. Yeah, people just pull up. They may call someone from the team, which means my team, the personal team or the school. I don't know who's coming. Yeah. Like, I know when we're out there warming up on the field, I'll ask somebody, tell me who's

all here. So I go and shake their hand because I want to make sure I acknowledge them because that's just professionalism. I don't want a guy to come here out of. his busy schedule and I don't even acknowledge him so I'll make sure like who's that oh that was a whole wutan clan or thank you for telling me like it's everybody their mama comes man on game day it looks like the BET awards dude I really wonder when I went here it was stephen montez's quarterback I don't even know if you know him but we we didn't win a game so I wonder if like

the students I wonder if the students and like everyone understands how insane it is you know Well, I teach a class on campus, so. And what's that class? They do. What's the name of it? No, I forgot the name of the class because it's my class. It's about marketing and. It's like marketing and just entrepreneurship and all of above.

And I just taught it. Matter of fact, what, two days ago? Tuesday. How hard is that class to get into? It's not easy. Let's just say that. But we had a good time. I took my sons with me and they sat in front and just did a Q&A.

with all the students so all three of us set up there so it was awesome man and then at the end the students like what can we do for spring game weekend to help you out i said i want content go give me content interview everybody you can and and cut it up make sure it's tight i don't want it over a minute and a half and give me the content that's what i want and they're that's what they're doing i think it's so amazing that you have both your boys with you at all times i thought what did they what are they three of don't forget berke with the camera yeah yeah my bad he's watching Yeah, he's a big fan. Wait, so what did they buy you recently?

They bought you? Well, no, they didn't actually buy the house. We went to check out the house. Oh, so they didn't pay. No, no, the house is very expensive. I've seen the title. It said, bought Coach Brian the house. Yeah, there's somebody running with some foolishness.

No, my kids ain't, they ain't ready for that yet. They don't have that kind of bag yet. There's another year from now. But they're not coming for an allowance at this point with the NIL. They may not be coming for allowance. I don't think they've ever got an allowance. Really? Yeah.

Is it crazy to see your kids now, like, starting to make, with the NIL, just make real money? Now, they make real money. Yeah, they have a multitude of vehicles and so forth. Shadour more so than Shiloh. Shiloh, is very conservative. He don't do too much what he is, but Shador don't play. How would you say your kids, Shiloh and Shadur, have excelled from like last year on the field to this year?

Tremendously. Both of them have grown tremendously. But honestly, you know who the MVP is? It's junior because he's capturing everything. Yeah. No jealousy, no animosity. loving his brothers and making him shine man so he's really the family's MVP he really is it's great what is what does it do culturally since your doors like the quarterback you're the coach

honestly i feel i don't know but you don't see that many times where the head coach like usually there are kids like a receiver like a left tackle does that change culturally because you know i don't know we we never think about it because this has been our whole life yeah ain't nothing changed just because we got to college. Like, I've coached him on every team he's ever played for. When he goes pro, that would be the first time I'm not coaching him. Shiloh, he went to South Carolina for a couple years. Then he came back and joined us at Jackson.

So he went two years without me coaching him. That was it, their whole life. Who's the favorite kid on the list this week? Right now? Junior is. Yeah? Junior is the favorite one. So does this switch in the week?

DeAndre was my daughter, my oldest daughters, because she, you know, when you have a birthday, it's your day. Yeah. But then, as soon as that day is over, it's not. So then it goes back to the original rankings. Right now, Junior is, is number one. He's balding. He's doing the doggling thing. It changes every week?

It changes every month. But it goes week to week, depending on what they do. But what do you get if you're on your good side or you're the favorite? It's perks to it. Okay. Yeah. Like, Shallow, I just did something for him. He just called me and asked me for a favor.

So he's like, can I? take you to dinner the night i said no because you're just a user so it's perks it's perks to it yeah yeah well i guess let's let's talk about last season too uh you guys started so hot yeah we started on fire on fire the hype was insane i think it like the biggest thing on sports in general it's gonna be like that again so how do you how do you avoid that kind of fall off that happened last year when you guys went yeah coaching understanding the moment building people people up for the time. You've got to understand that this time last year, we had just got here when, was it December? We had just got in December. Right. You know, so you, you inherit

a team and now you got to build it and get it ready for September. It's not easy task, but it was a daunting task, but now you have a year to people, players understand who you are, what you want, what you desire, as well as the coaching staff, and tweak that and twerk that, and make sure, not twerk that, tweak that and tweak that once again. I said twerk that. I can't believe I actually said twerk that. My kids are going to die laughing when they see this.

But you want to make sure the team represents who you desire them to be, man. You know, like your team, you want to make sure your guys, all your players represent you and what you guys want to dispel out there. And I feel really good right now. Would you say you have a, like your team has a target on your guys is back when it comes to reps because last year everybody got

target yeah because last year there was a lot of there was a lot of calls like that hit shiloh did and yeah it was bad it was some stupid stuff going on but we don't cry we don't cry foul i mean it happens at the end of the year it all evens out pretty much but we don't cry for stuff like that because it is what it is man you know i'm not going to say nobody played favoritism um but we got to be on that game we got to go out and dominate that's why You know, it's just like a fight, a boxing match. If it's close, you don't know which way it's going to go. Right.

Right. He talks about how Target on your back, like, I always just think about Oregon, the locker room, play for clicks, all that shit. Well, it's funny how you say that, but the camera's on when you say it. Right. So who's playing for the click? Right. You know what? That's a point that I want to talk about, too.

You give that whole speech to say, oh, we don't play for clicks, but you're getting the clicks by saying that. So it is ironic. So tell me this. I want you to answer this question, honestly. Did you hear any other speech that he made the whole season? Not one. So who was playing for the click? Like, this is what I really do.

Like, since high school, you could date it back on YouTube or whatever. This is what I do with my team. Yeah. So this is who we are. It's not playing for something or playing for a click or trying to. Why would I need exposure? Right. Yeah, it's funny you put it that way.

It's ironic. What would I need exposure? Yeah. Last time I checked, I've been him since the 80s. You have been him. You have been him. I'll give you that. I don't need the exposure. I don't need to click.

I want my team to get everything they got coming to them, man. I want those kids to blow up and be the dogs. I want them to earn more. You NIL money. I want them to be it. I really do. How much has that changed the game? Change the game a lot.

It's a different game. it's a different game how do you keep the locker room like healthy when you have guys that are making millions some guys you got to recruit right you got to recruit the guys that still love the game of football i have no problem with these kids making money but i don't want money to make them yeah do you have to ever step in because yeah even porter junior was saying like like yokitch when he's in syria he's saying that the players are brought up differently because they're just focused on the game like he thinks even the younger generation of basketball now is like like Like, they're making TikToks. Basketball's different games, man. Basketball's different games. No, but like, do you ever have to step in and kind of tell people like less social media more football? No, not whatsoever because we're, we are social media. That's what we do.

And that's what I want these kids to make money. And a lot of these young men know how to make money, know how to make money YouTube wise. So we just want to teach them and show them and give them direction to make sure they keep the main thing, the main thing. Right. If you don't ball, nobody's going to want to see you. If you don't win, nobody's going to tolerate. you. So you got the ball and you got to win simultaneously.

Nobody's going to want to see you with nothing you do. And the more you win, we just gave a statistic today with the potential draft picks that's going on right now, they all come from winning programs, the top-rated guys. You rarely see a guy rated high that don't come from a winning program. Yeah. It helps a lot to win. With players that you have that play both sides, do you ever fear them getting into? injured on the field because it's like you can't go into nothing with fear and it's like you

get in the car saying man if I'm going to crash I'm scared yeah yeah you don't you don't think like that because these guys they've been playing this game their entire life I mean we only have one guy to play both sides that's Travis and Travis is one of the best players in the nation but he grew up playing both sides of the ball that's who he is if he don't play offense and defense that's that's that's not normal see for him He wants normalcy. That's playing both sides of the ball. How does that work at the next level?

Does he decide or is that a coach's decision? Well, he's going to decide. I'm pretty sure. Like, he's not going to let nobody tell him what he can't do. He never has, never will. I'm pretty sure the team that drafts him will know from the interviewing process his desires. And they may not let him play as many snaps as he's playing in college, but he's going to have a package on defense and a package on offense.

I'm pretty certain. Yeah. Yeah, he's that good. You'll be hurting yourself if you don't. Let him play on the other side of the ball. Going to your NFL career, who would you say was like your biggest competitor? Jerry Rice. Jay Rice, Mike Irving, Andre Wright, so forth.

There's some dogs that there. Chris Carter, I could keep going on. It was some grown man in there. Not only were they great, but the guy who was throwing the ball to them was also a Hall of Famer. So you guard in the Hall of Fame. Yeah. And the guy throwing the ball is a Hall of Famer.

Throwing to the Hall of Fame. Yeah. I got to just throw this out there. I feel like there's one guy that doesn't get enough respect. Who did? Champ Bailey. Champ was a dog. Champ got a gold jacket.

But you think, but you think, like, he's got to be, you and him are probably the top two best corners of all time. I don't rank corners. You don't rank? You get in trouble doing that. Okay. Because all these guys are my friends. They're my guys.

Yeah. So I can't say, you know what, put that guy on the other corner. If I had to pick one guy, I don't get into that. I love to tell you about receivers because that's what I played against. But the other guy on the other side, I ain't got nothing to do with that. Are you ever out at practice? D-N-up any of these receivers? No, I got eight toes now.

It's not possible. You can't do it? I got eight toes now. Oh, shit. I knew that. I knew that. He actually has eight toes. Yeah, no, I knew that.

I knew that. He said, he actually has eight toes. He does. I thought you did. He has eight toes now. I would just like to see you pick up your son. A moment. I could give them a moment.

I could give them a moment of fire, but it's just a moment. Yeah. Yeah. So as soon as they get off the jam and move like three feet, it's over. Yeah. he said he really does if he took me no i i thought he was like true he really doesn't have he told you wrote a you wrote a book recently what made you want to do that one of my mentors one of my mentors the greatest alter i think ever is john maxwell john c maxwell and i love him to life

he told me the way to reach a multitude of people that you could possibly never reach is through a book And anything that man says, I listen to. And I'm thankful. Next thing you know, we're New York Times bestseller. So I'm thankful and appreciative for that wisdom and to be able to touch and reach more people. And what a book. I love it.

What were you involved in that process? Like, were you physically writing? No, you talk about times. Like success, confidence is my natural odor. Why do you think that? Well, it's an R. It's a feeling. It's a, it's a, the Janacea Choir is that, is that guys, it's the way you go about life.

And you start just talking through things and they're asking more questions and you keep it going. Then you hit this other chapter, why, you know, why? What's the definition of success and you just keep going? And then they print it out some chapters and you overlook it and say, no, let's do that, let's do that, let's change, let's put that here. Then you interview again and next thing, you know, the hardest part of a. whole book honestly man is the audio book because now after it's written yeah you got to do the audio version of so now you got to talk it how long did that take um that quick pretty much it was it wasn't long because i wanted to get it over with but i wanted to do it greatly because i want you

to feel the words you got to put that emotion in there yeah you got to feel the words and not only that we went and doubled down and got Kurt Franklin to do music up under it. So now while I'm talking it's almost like like a scene from a movie that you hear the music

rumbling up underneath and it's climax into certain points. Holy shit. Yeah. Yeah. You listen to the audiobook already? Yeah, that better play it.

Play it. Yeah, that better be. Play chapter one. Buy it right now, bro. I feel like you should have to roast him like he's one of your players. No, you got to put it. I don't roast my players. I don't roast.

Some of them may be sensitive. I got to understand his personality so I know how to come out. So how do you do that then? You got to understand relationships. Yeah. So if I understand a relationship, he may be a guy that I don't have to get at. I just have to look at him. And he knows what that means.

Or he may be a guy that I just whispered to. Hey, you play an audio book and he's moved. But he may be, hey, man, can you play it there on audio book? You got to understand who he is so you know how to reach him. Yeah. Because if you don't, you're going to get the remote control and turn them off. How do you read people like that? Time.

Time and relationships. Time and relationships. Time and relationships. And you study people. Like, when our kids eat, I'm in a cafeteria. When they work out, I'm in they're working out with them. When they practice, of course, I'm there. So I spend a lot of time around my kids and learn the mannerisms of a lot of them.

And they don't even know I'm looking. And then I get all the details on them, who missed class, who was late, to this, who's on time for this, who's this, who's that? So I may be in the cafeteria and say, boy, man, that's the nice place you got. I wish you'd have got an A in their class instead of a D. Dang, Coachman, he knows my grades. Yeah, I got to because I got to keep up on you. Because when I was there, when you came in, I told your mother that I would have your best interest at heart.

And I'm not playing about that. So you're going to graduate from here. It's little things like that. I'm going to play here. That's dope. I think I'm going to play here. what do you think yeah yeah do you think he has a spot on the team yeah uh positions are limited though you always got like a locker room guy not only locker room guy third string third string

uh the position though just invite him for the after parties the position that'd be good no one will show up on time to practice what what can you do what can you do like what position in terms of football yeah i don't want to come after your son's spot but i could throw the ball you can throw the ball yeah I'm mobile outside the pocket. Are you fast? Quick as hell. You don't really have to be fast. No, but I'm quick.

But I just need you smart. I attributes are smart. I graduated here. Just say yes or no. Smart? Yes, sir. Tough? Yes, sir.

Fast. Yes, sir. Discipline? Yes, sir. With character. Great character. You in. I only need four out of the five.

I only need four out of the five and you're in. Crazy. So you discipline each player differently based on their person. personality. No, they get disciplined during the same, but the way you communicate with it may be differently. What do you think is the biggest difference about this program in comparison to every Pac-12 program? The sincerity in the realness, because we're not doing it for a bag. We're doing it because we love to do it. I had a bag for it when I came. So I'm not here for that. I'm here to make sure these young men try their darnness and I could help them elevate

them to the next level. That's the book. 21 ways to win on and off the field. Elevate and dominate. That's what we wanted to do. We wanted them to elevate and dominate in life. Did you have trouble last year when you have, back to when you have all these big celebrities come in, like keeping them focused on the game instead of this hype? No, because no matter who's at the game, those people at the game ain't in the game. You're in the game. I'll give it a darn who's at the game. You got to be in the game. Because what these guys want to do when you have these celebs and these so-called people that of a status, you want to impress them. Right. Yeah, you don't want to fall on your face.

you want to go out there and be a dog in front of them so they can say hey man that was awesome yeah and these are some of the young men and women that came to the games that they they've seen on television they've listened to their music like they they got love for them right so that's a whole different type of feeling that you really like dang i can make it like i'm hearing i'm seeing the rock good lord i'm seeing wheezy the baby is talking to me before the game and uh who else uh master p and so forth So many people. Jay Z? Jay Z.

I don't think Jay Z.K. I don't think Jay ZK. Yeah, we have a lot of people to come here. Well, you're going to have a tougher season with all this picking sides right now. I don't know if you pay attention to that, but there's a lot of rap beef going on. I heard. Yeah. Some of that stuff is staged, though.

You think so? Yeah. We're trying to decide. We can't tell what stage and what's not. Some is stage. Drake. Competition. Yeah.

I think it's competition. I don't think Kendrick is a good. do. I don't think he's malicious at his attacks. I think it's just, hey man, let's do this. Let's do this. Who's the dog? I wish it was more,

but they kept it clean. I mean, say what you want on wax, but don't allow it to evolve into a situation. And you know, the artists are never the ones that it evolves into a situation. It's the guys with the people. Those

are the ones who are going to do some stupid. For sure. What the last time you ever seen two actors fight or two artists fight? You're right. Like fist fight, actually? Yes. It's always the people in the crew. It's the crew.

Yeah. Because they want to prove to that guy that they're tough. True. Who do you think ends up on top in that beef, Drake or Kendrick? In the battle. Man, it's hard to beat Drake at anything, man. Drake is Drake, man. Drake is Drake, man.

Drake, Drake. Trying to get him to a game next season, baby. I'll tell you what, though, I'll say this with an exclamation mark. Ain't nobody want to see Lil Wayne. Hell no. Nobody wants to stay little Wayne. Ain't nobody want to see Lil Wayne, period. Everybody's talk about, forget the battles, the versus and all that stuff.

You know, that's kind of like a clean battle, right? Yeah. I don't see nobody call him a little way now. No, no one ever asked. Ain't anybody want that. He's got the hardest bars ever that have gone. No, no, but Luang got hits on top of hits. on top of hits on top of hits on top of hits like ain't nobody want that i agree loen can get the

mic and don't stop for two hours in a versus like he could turn the verses into a concert yeah ain't nobody trying to see that period yeah yeah uh have any of these guys ever like obviously them come in here's great promotion and stuff but do they ever contribute like to the program like financially or like we don't ask them to do that but they never offer we don't need them to do that That's not even a question. I probably wouldn't even take it if they would. Yeah. It's not about that.

It's about our relationship and friendship, man. Speaking of that, I think T.O. somewhere around here. Like, T.O. comes all the time. He's here. He's coming tonight, right? Yeah, yeah. He was at practice today on the field, doing his thing. So it's always, and I didn't know.

So it's always somebody that pops up, and I'm happy to late because the guys are getting to see another during the Hall of Famer. What's it like having Warren Sapp a part of the team now? Shab is unbelievable. a bundle of energy loves the game, loves kids, just he's a heck of a coach man he's a heck of a communicator. He's got the big eyes and, you know, the mannerisms that he has.

He's a Florida boy too. So Florida boys, no matter if we went to Miami, Florida State, Florida, UCF or Central Florida, whatever. UCF is Central Florida. I'm sorry. South Florida. We all got love for one another, man, because we all Florida boys. Would you say they breathe the most dogs? I do. That's always argumentative to people, but I'm a Florida boy.

Who would you rank it out of the United States? I would say Florida. Texas. Florida has the best athletes. Then I would say Texas has the best football. In that battle, it's Georgia, Louisiana, Mississippi, California on the other side. Top five? That's about it, top, top, my top tier.

That's top tier I said Louisiana Correct Yes Yeah Louisiana I got some dogs Outside of like talent Can you tell when you're talking to these recruits

Like is there something you look for Immediately personality like I want this team They're why You got to tell me you're why So like I'm literally sitting Probably right there And they're sitting right there

The whole family And I want to know their why Let's start off with that Why you do this Why you want this Why you want to be here why do you play this game and i want that why to be so compelling that it makes me lean up in my seat and really take notice of you yeah i want that why because when when you're talking about

because you know i want to make money i want to do this i want to do that we all have gone through a crossroad where we almost quit on ourselves if we really want to be honest all of us and had some well we look at the mirror like damn yeah but when we got somebody on the hook and on the line with us we ain't shedding that thing down it's like if you jogging you know when you by yourself and you got two miles or something you may say ah man let me shut it let me slow it up a little bit but if somebody with you let's go let's go you ain't quitting on them do you ever think you have like a have you seen like where you have a wrong read on a guy you really expect him to develop and just something's not working yeah you're expecting to develop you're expecting to

But after you spend some time with him, you're going to see what it is. Yeah. You're going to see what's up. Yeah. Most definitely. And it's unfortunate because he don't get it. Right. And another man can't be on your time table.

He got to be on his. How do you handle that frustration? Are you just saying it is? I'm not frustrated at him. He should be mad at himself. Right. I'm prayerful for him. Like, I hope you get it before it's too late for you.

Because this game and, this career it has it has the shot clock man and you got to get your shot off before that the buzzer go off yeah and I'm prayerful that they make it happen but oftentimes you may not get a second chance you don't know and that's it tough

that you you got to live with yourself being an idol yeah what's an idol Coach Prime I'm glad you asked it's a guy who didn't make it who took a left when they should have stayed right they looked back over their shoulder and say, darn it. But if I'd have stopped drinking, boy, I'd have been something.

Boy, if I'd have stopped smoking, boy, I'd have been something. Boy, if I'd have just got to practice on time and did my homework, boy, I'd have been something. I don't want none of these young men to be honest. How much of that do you think you personally have to manage? Because that's a lot of... Well, you can't. You can't. I can't want it for you.

Right. He can't want it for you. You got to want it for yourself. I could be the best darn navigational system you've ever been. Like that navigational system in that that Maybach ain't no different than that navigational system in that Honda accord. Both of them telling you where to go. The only fool it is is the one who listening that won't go right.

True. Yeah, you can't teach people. You can't. It's got to come for someone at. There you go. your own time. You could try your best to give them direction. You could be that fight coach said left, right, left, right.

Okay, now when he's up, you got to slip him and get out of there. Then next thing, you know, you're knocked out because you didn't do what the guy said. And he can't go home, say it. You will. But he's like, I told him. Try my best. I always just one or two. The NIL deals

are just... You see that they post the numbers all over social media. Okay. Let's let me correct you. Okay. Not carefully. NIL is name, image, and likeness. Yeah. Okay, let's really break this down what it is.

That's when someone has the credibility, they have the game, they have the persona to command a name, image, and likeness deal. Yeah. Let's talk about that. You saw Caleb Williams, right? Yeah. USC. Yep. You saw Caitlin, right?

basketball player right yeah you saw juju the basketball player for us it correct yep you saw chador television Travis as well endorsements why who else you saw liby done who live he done I don't know who they did I'm sorry LSU gymnasts she's beautiful yes yes she's huge huge I'm sorry I don't watch the gymnastics um who else brawny James we talking about him that's six people so well his name image and like this money going to. So it's not name management like this. You just name six people out of all these collegiate

athletes. It's a collective. You know what a collective is, is when you pass a bucket and everybody put money, donors in this bucket, then you figure out who you're going to give it to and you associate the task with that.

Like, okay, they're going to give me a, give me a social posts they're going to social post for this wonderful show three times a month and they're paid

that's not NIL that's a collective you never see them so it was supposed to be about NIL name image and likeness but it got shifted to the collective yeah that's where it went wrong yeah that shit's confusing because it can include

like boosters and all that right yeah we just named six players out of all these collegiate athletes that you actually seen on anything. So what you're saying it should be spread amongst more people? No, what I'm saying is not NIL. Yeah.

It's collectives. Yeah. That's what you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That has changed college football. It's not NIL. NIL hasn't changed college football. Collectors have.

That's a whole thing. It's kind of confusing to me. Most people don't really understand that. I know. That's why I took my time and I tried my best to gracefully explain it. Yeah. Because that's really what it is. That's what we are.

Right. We're not in the NIL state of mine. We're in a collective state because you don't see these kids on anything. Coach, have you always been religious throughout, like, since you were a kid? I've always understood who God was, and he's always played a Bible role in my life. But until I was suicidal at one point in my life, I accepted everything, all the attributes of God and tried to change my life wholeheartedly. So I was one of those guys who didn't want to be hypocritical because I've seen those guys in the locker room that guys are like, hey, man, you, how are you in Bible study? You was just, but I was trying to clean up my car, then take it to the car wash, which is stupid.

I was trying to take a new suit to the cleaners, which is stupid. So you got to go to the Lord to get cleaned up and not get clean, then go to the Lord. That don't make no sense. So I had to go down there broken and battered and beaten. And then, like, Lord, just please help me. Because I need to know how to deal with this, this, this, and this. So that's how that came to pass. If you don't mind me asking, what part of your time when you were?

I was playing for the Cincinnati Reds. I forgot what year. It had to be 90, maybe 96, something like that. Yeah, it was after Super Bowls. Super Bowls are 94, 95. Probably 96. Something like that. 97 what made you get to like such a low point in your life god was calling me collect and i didn't

want to accept the charges like god was calling me to change courts and lead as people and do do right it's not that i was doing wrong visibly because i never smoked never drank never been high there my life never takes the alcohol stop using profanity when i was 19 so it wasn't that thing but i was women I was more prideful, but I needed to change some things to be the leader that God called me to be. That was it. And the father that he called me to be. Do you feel like you've had an effect on players that say that you've seen going down that same path that you've had to bring in one-on-one? Yeah, not just player people.

People. Yeah, not just players. God would never just limit me to that crowd, people, period. Yeah. Because I always want to see people make it. I want to see you guys win no matter what you do. Now that I met you, I definitely want to see you win, you know. So I always have wanted people to just achieve the ultimate success.

I don't even have to know you. But if you have like this badge of significance on you and I see you going through it, I probably DM you and say, hey, man, I'm praying for you. Keep your head up and I promise you, man. Just make it to Friday and everything's going to be all right. just text you that or tweet you that or whatever because I really want people to make it I know you wrote in your book as well like you're obviously

raised by a single mother how do you think that made you to be the man you are today single mother at the point of time in my life but I did have a wonderful stepfather and my biological father was a rolling stone wherever he laid his at was his home but I had a hard working mother who I saw work her butt off

so ends would see one another although they never met that played a vital role in my life because I know I want to to bless her and I wanted to retire her and I wanted her to be all of that because in high school my mama never seen me play what football baseball basketball why is that she was working she said work damn so she never saw me she never made it to one game even she said work we played on friday nights or basketball played on tuesdays and Fridays uh baseball we played whenever no weekends never

on me play she didn't see me ball out she probably put pee we league because we play on Saturdays but until I went to college she drove six hours to a game on Saturdays man and had to get back and go to work that Monday morning so that's that why man like that when you start thinking about that but see that explains that's why people got to be careful how you judge people how you see people because you never know what they've been through so knowing that now you understand why I built this persona that was

prime time because I had to rely on me. I had to have my back. I had to be him because it wasn't nobody in the stand. Oh son, you did it great. It wasn't nobody there. So I had to be

self-absorbed. I had to be I had to pat myself. Hey man, you did that dog. Come on man. You started quarterback, started free safety. Point guard on basketball team, the Allstate, and you got drafted into the big leagues out of high school. And nobody was there.

And then nobody was there. And I said again, and nobody was there. So when you build this persona up, people got to understand it is a reason. Everything someone does, it's a reason, man. Whether you understand or cooperate or riding with the reason, that's on you. But it's always a reason. that's why you got to be careful we got to stop judging people in this world man

we only got an opinion that we're judging somebody and we don't even know the story people are so quick to tear other people down now and you don't know the story people don't have sympathy you don't even know the story you don't have no idea when somebody's going that's why you've got to be careful in life especially in the cars of the light

you up there blowing at somebody because you thought they cut you off you have no idea that person may have just experienced a tragedy And you're acting stupid in the car You don't understand what they're dealing with it Be careful And I'm serious about that

Like people have no idea What somebody's going through That's why I always have respect You always thought like that Yeah Yeah I always been a kind-hearted dude You know

Even if you cross me Cross me cross me cross me I'm gonna cut you off But I'm not gonna be abrasive Yeah I was gonna ask too Because you came from Jackson State The hype was there But it elevates to a whole other level

What have you learned about being even bigger now with people would say pressure just I've always been big I know that it's just a different address yeah that's all it is that's all it is this ain't no bigger

than winning Super Bowes and playing World Series like you're gonna compare this to that yeah like you know it's like no man no like I've always God has always put me on the stage you know why because he trusts me

because when I get to the stage he know I'm going to talk about him. He know I'm going to bring other people on the stage with me, and I'm going to be a blessing to everybody. So that's why I always find a way to win, and I always find a way to make it on a stage because he trusts me with the moment. Like, that's what you got to ask yourself.

You guys are very successful, correct? And it's different levels to this thing. So you've got to ask yourself, now if you go to the level that you want to go to because there's always another place called there, right? Once you got there, you said, We got to get to the other place called there. Now we've got to get to the other place called there.

Okay. When you get there, can he trust you with this enormity? Can he trust you? If he can't, you're not going to make it. Or it's going to be a casualty somewhere or somewhere over here. It's going to be something. The Bible says in this world that we will have tribulation. Someone is going to always going to go through a trial and a test.

somebody so can you handle it i can't that's why i know i'm headed so when i have a rocky a blurry start i already know how i'm going to finish i don't give during how to start i know how it's going to end up and you're going to date back to this interview you're going to say darn it he said it way back on whatever date this is he said it he said what it was going to be yeah and that's not cockiness that's confidence I have confidence because I work my butt off. I'm prepared and I'm ready for the moment. So when the moment comes, I got you.

I got it. Damn. It's firing. I'm fired up. How do you manage all this in your personal life? But this is my life. All this is part of my life. I'm built for this, man.

I'm designed for this. I was made for this. I was prepared for this. Do you have any hobbies that get stuff off of your mind? I love the fish. Didn't you get arrested once fishing? Yeah, did. God you're going.

good what happened there okay I was in my hometown it's good I was in my hometown for my store I'm in I'm in your show so I'm in your research yeah I'm in the pros I'm in the end of nobody haven't asked me that long time I told them I gave him that one yeah and I'm probably Myers right five amen I'm about five minutes from my house that I built my mother million dollar home all that on the golf course all that but it's a fishing hole right by the airport that you can't even see up in there like like you have to drive up in there to find out somebody's in there and you know florida we fishing is always gators around yeah i'm in this little two-man boat you know about

this high out of the water and i'm just catching them left and right i'm killing them because it's unfished i don't keep the fish i just recreational fish i just thought about it least catch a release yeah and the police pulled up hey property got to come on in I said, man, ain't nobody see me out here, dog. Come on, man. I was there in my hometown doing a charity basketball game. How many times have you fished there? Several, but they didn't know.

Yeah. Because you can't see me. I don't know how they saw me back there because you can't. It's not right off the road. It's really back in there. Come on in. I said, well, man, the fish are really biting, dog. I'm telling the police, the fish are really biting, man.

Like, they're really biting. He's like, you got to come in. I say, what's going to happen when I come in? You're going to be arrested. I say, I might as well enjoy myself. I might as well, I might as well, I might as well. So I stayed out there like, hey, where are you going to come? You can't come out there and get me.

I'm on a boat. So I fished for like 15, 20 more minutes, came on in. How many more fish did you catch in between? Several. I mean, they were here. So they're just waiting. You're just fucking hucking them out. Every cast.

So was it a skill thing or you were just in the right spot? No, I was in a great, it's unfished. Yeah. So when they say a lure, they're going to, Crazy. They didn't see the lure. So they took me to this little like police sub station right at the airport. And I'm in there thinking like, this is going to be national news. This is going to be national news. So on the mugshot, I smile. Because I know it's going to be national news. And it was national news. And they were so worried about me canceling that basketball game that I had all my cowboy teammates and former teammates and everybody up there to play against the media from Fort Myers. And it was crazy. I literally went to jail five minutes from my house.

Fishing. Just for fishing. What was the charge? Trespassing, right? Yeah, that's probably trespassing. But nobody knew. Like, but me and this dude. But I did go to jail for fishing.

But guess what? You didn't hang up the rod. Excuse me? You didn't hang up the rod. You got back out there and you went fishing again. No, no, I didn't go back there, never again. But guess what? Every home I've ever built, I have a lake.

My own. So I don't have to ask nobody for that. That's the moral of the story. So I said, you know what? I'm going to do something about this. So now I have my home in Texas, I have three lakes. Yeah. The home I live in here, probably about 100 yards for the house in the lake.

That's funny when the inmates asked you, what are you in for? No, we don't have any police substation. It was a holding cell. I didn't even know they had a jail at the airport. Oh, my God. It was at airport. It's a holding cell. yeah yeah yeah yeah i haven't been accidentally years i appreciate that man thank you you still fish

a lot yes fly fishing out here no i don't i'm fly fish i'm fly fish i'm fly fish i don't know fly fished you play golf too it was good when you golf too game is too slow i need action although fishing is peaceful and relaxing and i love the calmness and the serenity of water do you fish with travis too i see he fished yeah Travis fished with me let's get this yeah that gets competitive So you'd be catching him and he'd be... Oh, no, both of them, Travis loves the fish as well. But I'm the older gentleman, so he was at my crib when he caught a monster out of my lake, man. Oh, my God.

He's got a monster, man. How much did that wait? Do you remember? I don't know. We didn't even wear it. Fish was huge. Yeah. It's one of the biggest one I've seen out of my lake.

Did that bother you? No, no. I want my guys to be successful. You got to let him have one, right? I want my guys to be successful, man. Yeah. That's funny. That's a good question.

I've been acting on a long. long time. Kyle Research Forgard over here. All right, well, I mean, both your sons, you're probably not going to be here next season. Yeah, it better not be. So what's that look like for you?

It looks good. It's going to be tough because I don't know if it's going to be tougher on them or tougher on me. Because I've coached them their whole lives. So I know I'm going to get those phone calls. Dad, look, this is what's going on. A dad, can you

a dad. But I pray that I've trained. them as men to be able to handle all those trials and tribulations that they're going to endure on and off the field. Yeah. You think that'll be difficult since you've coach them your whole lives to just get into a new system, new guys telling them what to do? Them? No, because they're dogs. They're dogs. It seems like every year we've had a new system and new coordinators at different spots that we've been high school as well. So, no, and they're smart. Both of those young men are smart. Now, junior is going to stay with me. He's going to stay with me to do all. the social media here so he's not going to dip on me he's going to stay good son is it great great son is it tough for them at all being like famous and like going to college like did they ever have struggles with that no so it's so different now with social media yeah but they've always been notable yeah so they've always understood the dynamics and i've always tried to make them aware

of you know the time and the place and the thought process of every situation if they're In this situation, this is what you do of you. And this is what you do. The best thing to do, the best advice to give people, honestly, is the gift to walk away. Certain people, you just got to learn to have the gift to walk away. If something happens, something goes down, man, just walk away. Don't get the last word in.

Don't fight to be seen or be here. Man, just walk away. And you're going to live to see another day if you just walk away. You have to prepare for that, right? Yeah, everybody's not built for that. Because everybody, you want to say the last thing. It's like walking away from the game, too. You got to walk away?

And it's never a W if you're at that status. It's two things. You walk away from the, as you're older gentlemen, you walk away the game. You walk away from the game or the gang walks away from you. Wow. That's deep. You got to be prepared for that. I'd rather walk away from the game.

For sure. Then the gang walk away from you. It's like a fighter. Yeah. He's still out there in the ring and the fighter walked away from it. But he can't walk away from the fight. And you get hurt. And you hate to see that, man.

Yeah. Don't let the game walk away from you, boys. Nice. You got to be good enough to walk away from it, too. That's right. A lot of inspiration, man. Do you have any comments or like anything that you see just in today's game at the NFL level? It's a great game, man.

We're overprotective of certain parts of the game, especially the quarterback. But the quarterback is to, we talked to the kids this morning, but he's a half a billion, not a half, a quarter of a billion dollar product. Yeah. So you've got to protect it. We understand that. But the game is just overprotective right now, and it shouldn't be. It's still football.

Yeah, there's some new tackling rule. What is that? It's crazy. Yeah, I understand what I can't recite the terminology. It's almost like they're falling with them and their leg tag or something like that. Which looks like a normal time. I haven't heard of that. I haven't even heard of that.

Do you think that with everything they're doing, it's making the game safer? The game has to be safer because they're measuring the influx of kids playing the game every year. Right. So that enhances the safety rules. Because if you have a kids that's declining, okay, you've got to do some about that. So the parents feel safe. So they put the kids back in the game. So they measure all that kind of stuff.

The NFL is the number one product in professional team sports. And they don't play about that. And you said you'd never coach NFL, right? No. I don't want to coach NFL. I have no desire, no ambitions. What's the reason for that? A bunch of rich guys don't want, you know, it's hard.

for me to want to give a speech and motivate a guy who's got money who's you getting paid to do this yeah right you should want to do this this is your occupation I hate to say job because I hate anything to me I just told the kids the definition of a job is

a commodity that pays you enough to make it to working back and you pay your bills but you have gas that's the definition of a job the definition of a career if something that you go to daily and you're happy,

you're excited, you're elated. It pays you more than enough to live the life that you desire to live. That's a career and that's a job. And I ask the young men this week, which one you want? Because the way you practice, some of you're on the job.

And they're going to tell you what time to show up, what time to go home, and what time they'll be back. That's a job. This is a career. You're like, you guys, come on, you're doing your thing. You're dictating your own schedule. You're having a good time doing what you do.

Whenever it becomes work, it becomes a job and not a career. I like careers. Yeah. Awesome. I don't like jobs. What do you guys tell our recruits, man? We got a recruit meeting in the same room in a minute. So we have recruits from all over the country.

Like we have probably 20 of them this week. I mean, just from talking to you, it's been motivating. So I'd say it's an incredible opportunity for them to, I mean, you just have so much wisdom. So you provide so much more than clearly like a typical coach, you know. Like you have that real life experience that's probably just so hard to get from other places. Yeah, because it's obviously an incredible opportunity. I'm going to use this. I'm going to use this.

Yeah. You want me to go? Hey, man, I'd pay to hear this every day. Yeah. I mean, a lot of wisdom, like Kyle said, man. Go scobes, man. I think honestly, too, you get this opportunity and you'd be surprised. There's people that would be surprised on what it could amount to.

more than what you believe it could. Like, he gave me an opportunity probably like two years ago as an assistant. And it became something way more than I thought it'd be. So if you put in the work, you'd be surprised what could happen. You know what I tell all the parents and the kids that come and sit over there, and I'm sitting right there, my coordinator sitting here,

and the position coach is sitting there. I look at the parents and I, and I say, look, we're in a situation right now where you're talking to a man that has sat in every seat in this room. I've been the parent, I've been the kid, and now I'm the coach. I know what you're thinking. I know what you thinking. And I know what I'm going to say next.

Because I know how to make all of us successful. It's on you. What you want to do? There it is. It's on you, baby. And what other coach has been arrested for fishing? Like, come on, you're a fucking badass. You're a fucking badass.

You're in a fishing. That's a. Fly fishing suit, is it not? I'm a fly. Yeah, my bad. There you go. Yeah, yeah. All right.

Now, this is awesome. We appreciate you, man. Appreciate it. Thank you so much.