FULL SEND PODCAST - Donald Trump Jr. x Nelk Boys | Ep. 2

Episode Date: September 8, 2021

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all right so are we good here right into it right we sound we might as well yeah i mean you know we can tell we run a first class operation mr trump is adjusting his own microphones here and first class operation we know that's what you guys are we're rolling on the cameras uh all right so here we are this is episode three of the full send podcast uh it's like an emergency podcast too because uh we got some episodes banked up but you guys know there's a lot of crazy shit going on on the world right now. Bob's kind of redeeming himself. He's almost getting fired from this podcast,

if you guys don't know. That's pretty fast after three episodes. I mean, it's normally how it goes, John. It's impressive. But overreacher. What did you start dating someone? That's about as long as it lasts. Guys, awesome.

Here we go. Once again, just getting bashed. But he's kind of redeeming himself now because he put together a pretty crazy two guests here. We got Don Jr. And we got Robert O'Neill. Bob, what do you want to introduce to our audience? I mean, well, first of all,

I think that shows that to get you guys in the same room, this fast, obviously shows that there's some shit going on in the world that needs to be talked about. I think you guys are obviously pretty vocal, not only on social media, both of you guys are pretty vocal. But, yeah, there's a lot of shit going on. I mean, first of all, for anybody that doesn't know, Don Jr., obviously, we know who Don Jr. is. Robert O'Neill is the man who spent a tons of time in Afghanistan. Yeah, most of my adult life was at war. I joined the Navy as a Navy seal in 1996, and I didn't get out until 2012, and that's a lot of time. And a lot of missions in there, you know, during that time, we did the rescue the lone survivor.

We rescued Captain Phillips, which wasn't in Afghanistan, a bunch of tours in Iraq. And then I was on the team that killed Bin Laden, I actually killed him. That's one thing I didn't know was the Captain Phillips. Yeah, that was, I mean, that was one thing just to show of what we can do as a country. Because I was, I wasn't at war. I was at my daughter's Easter Tea Party at her preschool. on my birthday, Good Friday, April 10th. And we're getting ready for the long weekend.

We got a call that's Captain Phillips. And we had, I think, 100 Navy SEALs in the Indian Ocean less than 16 hours later. And then we got them on Easter Sunday because it turns out our snipers will do that. They will kill you at night on Easter Sunday. Wow. Pretty dope. And the mission that you're most known for is obviously the one where we invaded Pakistan, surprised me a little night and killed Osama bin Laden.

Yes. Yeah. So I want to touch on that real brief. because I don't think their audience really knows the whole full story. You've told the story millions of times. Take us through that day the second you get the call that the most wanted man

on planet earth, you guys are going to take them out. At first they didn't tell us what was happening. They recalled this. I was in Florida and they recalled us because we just finished a deployment to Afghanistan so we didn't know what it was. And by recall, I mean we went back to Virginia Beach. That's where our home base was. And they started out with

we found a thing And this thing is in a house. This house is in a bowl in a country, in these mountains. And you guys are going to go get this thing. You're going to bring it to us and show it to us. Like, all right, what is the thing? Can't tell you. Okay.

What country can't tell you? How are we getting there? Can't tell you. How much air support? None. Okay. That's an answer. Sounds like a great start.

Yeah. Well, and it got funnier because they, when we worked, you know, Army pilots, Air Force, parerewskimen, who were the, basically the surgeons on the ground, but they're special operators, too. Air Force combat controllers, which control the radios, and then we have seal operators, and they said it's only going to be seals, because we're saving weight. So if you knew how to carry medical stuff, you're our new doc. If you knew how to use a radio, you're a radio guy.

And so we're getting our gear ready. We're like, what could this be? And we thought it was the Arab Spring had just started in northern Africa. So we assume they found Gaddafi, and we're going to go get them. And, you know, not kill them, just get them, bring it back. So we're coming up with this plan. Everyone's fixing their gear to whatever they're going. going to carry. And then they said, go home and be with your kids for another, you know,

day and a half. And they come back. We're going to drive you somewhere and tell you what's going on. And we said, who's going to be there? And they started going down the list of whatever, you know, the vice president might be the secretary, defense secretary of the Navy, all this stuff. And then one thing they said was CTC pad, which is CIA counter terror, Pakistan, Afghanistan. And no one said anything. We went home and I was thinking to myself, if we're going to Libya, why would they be there. So then we came back. We got in vans. I'm getting to a funny story, I promise. We're driving the vans down to North Carolina. And I had four guys here, and I said to the guy next to me, who's my boss? I said, this isn't Gaddafi. They found bin Laden. And he looked

at me and just said, yeah, that's exactly what I was thinking. And that's when the guy in the front seat said, man, if we kill Osama bin Laden, O'Neill, I'll suck yo dick. So three weeks during the day. Yeah, no. I did ask him about it. It's been like 10 years. No, not yet. He's, you know. But yeah, that was, anyway, but then we got serious. They said this is as close as we've ever been to Osama bin Laden.

Then we were serious. No high-fiving, none of that. Just, can we go now? And we met the teams that, the girl that found him and all that stuff. Trained for a few days and then went to Afghanistan and waited for the green light, which we got, and then we launched. And we had come up with the perfect plan, rehearsed a perfect plan, 90-minute flight that we should die on, how we're going to take the house down. We've done this hundreds of times, so it shouldn't be a big deal. What's the worst thing that could happen, though?

Someone said helicopter could crash in the front yard, so that happened. So we started off with a helicopter in the front yard. The pilot did it to save everyone. You had two helicopters. How many guys flew in that mission? 23. 23 guys, so split evenly on each helicopter? Yeah, and then Cairo, the dog was there too.

And Cairo the dog. And so our plan, we were going to put guys down right in front of Bin Laden's house, fast rope, everybody out. my team was going to drop snipers and a dog outside. Then my team's going to the roof, and then we're going to get them that way. And that didn't happen. I mean, we were going to die as soon as the house blows up when we got on top. We were actually calling ourselves the Martyrs Brigade.

Like, this is it. But the reason that we were going to- So you guys thought you were going to die. We knew we were going to die. Shot down on the way in, a media fight when we get there, house-borne IED. We're going to run out of fuel and then end our short lives in a Pakistani prison or shoot it out with a pack meal until we're all dead. Because it's not like you could have got, you didn't get air clear.

You weren't going to give anyone a hint because... There's nowhere to go. You got nothing. But we accepted it because... And we talked about this. I had a guy asked me, I'm going. I just need to say it out loud. If we know we're going to die, why are we going?

Which is fair. And we said, we're not going after bin Laden for the fame or for the money. We're going after Osama bin Laden for the single mom who dropped her kids off at elementary school on a Tuesday. And then 45 minutes later, she jumped to her death out of a skyscraper because that's a better alternative than whatever in the hell is going on inside at 2,500 degrees Fahrenheit. And the last gesture of human decency was to hold her skirt down and she killed herself. She was never supposed to be in the fight.

We're supposed to be in the fight. That's where we're going. When you guys got there, when you guys arrived there, though, did you know he was in the building? I was 100% sure he was in the building because of the woman that found him. She was certain. We'd get done with those training days, long days of training on the site, long hours at night talking over a model. And right before, you know, we get a couple hours of sleep, she would say, all right, guys,

great day of training. Osama bin Laden is in the third floor of this building right now. I don't know why we're not going. Good night. She, you know, certain, but yeah. But then, you know, we were to the point where we weren't, there was no fear involved with this mission because we accept death. This is what we came to do.

And then you get in there, everything's wrong. I didn't know the helicopter crashed until I got inside the building. And someone told me the helicopter crashed. And I said, what helicopter crashed? And he said, our helicopter crashed in the front yard. Like, he walked right past it. And I'm like, well, I was looking this way. or something because there's been Lunds house.

And then as we're doing that, the tail of the helicopter was over the fence and the sniper with the dog, they were doing a loop to make sure no one escaped. And he came over the radio and said, hey, guys inside, be on alert. They're definitely ready for us because they have a training mockup

of our super secret helicopter in the front yard. And the boss came over and said, no, jackass, that's ours because we crashed. And he said, yeah, that makes a lot more sense than the shit. I was just saying, doesn't it? Weird stuff happens in dark moments. but yeah we did that got in there and then we went up the stairs the woman told us

Khalid bin Laden who's his son would be on this set of stairs which he was the point man killed him we watch around him we're down to two guys now going up the last set of stairs looking up a curtain and so there was some movement behind it I was the number two man the point man's in front of me and he was telling me now we got to go because he could see movement he's thinking those are the suicide bombers but we can beat him if we go now we have to go now because they're getting ready And I had no one behind me. I was like, well, I guess this is it.

And I wasn't being brave. It was more of a, I'm going to blow up now and I'm tired of thinking about it. Let's just get it over with. And I squeezed him. We went up and he went through this curtain, tackle these people. And because he went here, I have to cover his back. I went this way. There's Osama bin Laden three feet away, standing on two feet.

Did you see him like clearly? Yeah. I recognize his nose, his beard, how tall he was, how skinny he was, everything about him. And he's not surrendering. He's a threat. So I got to take him down. And if you're dealing with a suicide bomber, which he should have been, you shoot him in the face.

and I shot him in the face twice and then once we're on the ground and then we're moving his wife to the bed his two-year-old son was there and for me it was a father it was like this kid has nothing to do with this you know it's just humanity

then I'm standing there I can hear Osama bin Laden taking his last breaths and I'm sort of stunned and a buddy came up because there's more Navy SEALs in the room now his buddy came up and said are you okay and I said no what do we do now

and he smiled and said now we find the computers Like, we do this every night. Hundreds of times you've done this. I said, yeah, you're right. I'm back. Holy shit. And he said, yeah, you just killed Osama bin Laden in your life, just changed, get to work. Wow.

Getting computers is gathering all the intel. Anything you can find, yeah, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, anything, it would have been nice to have Pakistan actually be an ally, because we should have stayed in that house for, seriously. But, yeah, anything, anything that might have, a list of names, pictures, anything. And there was so much stuff there. It would have been nice to have Pakistan actually be an ally because we should have stayed in that house for, at least a week gathering all that. Because he was running the whole show from there.

We got as much as we could, though, and we left. Another helicopter came in and flew us out, and then we had 90 minutes to survive, getting shot down. And where was this safe haven where you guys were going, where it would be safe? Afghanistan, believe it or not. Oh, interesting. That was actually weird because we're flying back and we have 90 minutes and worrying about something that is not, your worry is not going to affect your wasting your energy.

So worrying about a missile is not going to stop it. So just chill, right? So we start our watches and we're counting. it down 90 minutes we got to get and um you're looking at your friends i got the sniper from rescuing captain phillips sitting next to me he actually gave me a copenhagen looking at my guys and then uh you know shit it's been 10 minutes it's been 20 spent 30 minutes now it's about 40 minutes it's been 50 minutes we got to get to 90 minutes and you start thinking about watching a no hitter like i'm not going to say anything motherfucker's pitching no hitter 60 minutes 70 minutes

80 minutes and like the sports analogies with uh lake placid when the american hockey team beat the Russian did you can hear them counting down if you look it up on YouTube like 10, 9, 8. Then the pilot came over the radio and said, for the first time in your life, gentlemen, you're going to be happy to hear this. Welcome to Afghanistan. And that's the end of the mission. And then we showed them. Which would no longer be the case today. No, it wouldn't be safe, but I'd rather stay in Pakistan. So that's one of the reasons. Yeah, we wanted to bring you on. We're starting this new show and stuff. I think it's crazy that we get you guys on to, you know, experts. And like, I think just the question is like, what the fuck is going on in Afghanistan right now, Don.

Well, I'm not an expert. I just, I'm pretty good at talking shit and calling out the nonsense that's out there. You know what I mean, and you see so much of it these days. And, you know, from what I've got to experience over the last five years, which is like, you know, anything my father does is wrong. Anything I do is wrong. You know, you do the Hunter Biden sort of Don Jr. analogy. I'm like, this guy's like a legitimate, just total piece of shit. And it's like, no problem. He can do whatever he wants. He's, he's a private guy. He's like, well, so am I. I wasn't in government. I wasn't one of the – so it's just, you know, between the media sort of functioning as a cheerleader for the other side and going to such great lengths to simply protect Joe Biden and the Democrats. I mean, you know, this guy is like mashed potatoes for brains. You see that. You know, he comes out. He's on vacation while the world's burning. Imagine, you know, imagine Donald Trump as Afghanistan fell. By the way, as Afghanistan fell while they pulled out our troops but left between 10 and 40. and they don't even know.

Thousand Americans in Afghanistan. Now, Taliban control. Like, I can watch the meltdown. It'd actually be nice because, like, they'd have such big aneurysms that there'd be none of this, like, ridiculous media left. Like, they would explode in their outrage. Joe Biden's on vacation. Like, I'm surprised he didn't do his speech from an ice cream shop the other day because

it seems all he's capable of. So, you know, it's hard to believe that it doesn't exist, that someone's willing to call out the bullshit when it exists. And so for me, they created a niche. Why do you think that is? That's Dana when we did Dana. Like, why is the media so against the right? Like, is it about money?

Is it like, why are they so against it? They're active. You see it in school, right? They're activists. If you're going into journalism, that's your mindset. And then you're in your bubble. If you go against the bubble, you get eaten alive. Listen, it's no different probably than like the woke military.

And we have to, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this, Rob, because like, and we do have to make the distinction between guys like this, the door kickers that are actually. kicking ass and like the generals that are saying that's yeah i really want to learn about white rage it's like give me a fucking break you know the difference too they haven't having having shooters on the ground fighting the enemy al qaeda ISIS Taliban seeing the difference between them and then like show me a four-star general and i'll show you 14 people kissing his ass all around him just telling him exactly what he wants to hear so they can have his job eventually well and he wants to get a board seat at you know what corporate america and so they want to keep us in these

wars indefinitely because like hey listen they're not making a lot of money now and that's their retirement plan but like they're also costing the american tracks pair trillions they're costing guys like rob their lives and limbs you know so we can stay in a war to get a board seat at raytheon in a couple of years that's exactly what they're doing it's exactly what they're doing so someone has to call it out and like to your point like dude like i was never i was always conservative but i was never political but the fact that there's such a vacuum of you know people that are just not willing to speak up that i have sort of created a name for myself within politics just to be like, hey, uh, is anyone called bullshit on this yet?

Like, how insane is that? That's what I mean. Like, what is the reason? Like, why, what motivation does Twitter have to like remove the president? I think it's got to be personal power somewhere. Like, is it about money somewhere? There are people, a lot of people on television and politics that are blatantly lying. And it's got to be for kickbacks.

It has to be. I can't figure it out. I don't know why. I don't, I don't want to say someone specifically haste their country. They got to be getting money on the back end. Someone is. There's a virtue signaling. There's like a reward system, right?

Yeah. If you're a liberal and you come out and you attack the conservatives, like, hey, like it's the Colin Kaepernack shit, right? Like, you get a sneaker deal or Megan Rapinoe. You hate your country. Great. We're going to put you on that. You're the face of subway sandwich now.

Like, it's become cool to be woke and there is a way to monetize it rather than talking common sense. Now, if you come out as a conservative, everyone out there is attacking you. So there's no upside. So I honestly, I know there are people that are out there sort of selling some of this crap. They don't believe it because I know them. But it's like, well, you know, it's the path to making a couple of bucks. And I'm not, I'm not willing to risk taking the hits.

That's the difference with me. I was like, screw it. Like, I'll take the hits. So an anchor on like CNN is just going to fall the narrative just because they don't want to lose their jobs. Like what you're saying. Like everyone's doing. But they got there through years of indoctrination. You see it in our school systems.

I mean, you see some of these like sort of, you know, liberals of TikTok videos where it's like they're doing. whatever they can to push some of the crazy aspects of the left. And I'm not even talking about, like, you know, the difference between, you know, conservative and liberals. I mean, like, some pretty bad shit stuff. And it's like they're proud that they're indoctrinating kids to make sure that they never see another side. And if you see another side or bring it up, you know, it's over. And so, you know, they've just sort of taken over and grabbed the hold of all of these sort of cultural institutions.

I mean, I think conservative values are generally like, hey, live and let live. you know turn the other cheek that's been great but like look what it's gotten us I mean we've seen at every cultural institution even sports I mean you know woke sports is a thing and now I know a lot of players

you know whether it's MLB NFL NHL like probably not as much NBA but like they are out and they can't even imagine like what's going on they're like I can't believe I got to go to work and push this bullshit and yet it's jammed down their throat and they know there is a very real

consequence I'm sure you've had this conversation That's a good point. A hundred percent. Quick question. Back to, excuse me, Afghanistan. Yes. So obviously we're launching this episode tonight, right? Yeah. Because obviously it's pretty significant what's going on. Rob, you've been there. Take us through, first of all, two things. What happened in Afghanistan, for those who don't know. And what is going on right now currently as we speak? Just people make mistakes all the time. And a lot of successes are because of mistakes. You made you learning from them. You know, you can Monday morning quarterback,

anything. I personally think we should have pulled out mostly out of Afghanistan around 2004, 2005, because we kind of had it one. We hadn't heard of an improvised explosive device, roadside bombs yet. But bad decisions are made. They wanted to surge. They like people. There are guys on the ground like me were saying we live in a house in Jalalabad,

Afghanistan. We know our neighbors. We give the kids candy. We get kebabs at the stand in the middle of town, which is unheard of, especially today. We don't need a bunch of scared young Americans driving around up armored home vehicles, running people over just because they're here. Regardless of your intention, you'll be seen as an

occupier. So that's the first mistake. We do need to keep a base, especially Jalalabad Airfield, which is really, well, was really nice. And Bogram, which is, I mean, Bogram is, it's so fortified. You can defend it forever. And you can have pilots out bombing caravans and back in time, literally for karaoke night and green bean coffee. Like, that's what the place was like, speed limits and paved roads. Keep those two open just for the cross border up. We know al-Qaeda is in Pakistan. They're not in Afghanistan. We came here to fight al-Qaeda, not the Taliban, like it or not.

Just keep these here. We can hit them with drones. You know, people started getting mad about that. Or you're killing them with drones. You know what? Yes. Sorry, we can't kill people nice enough for you. But, you know, we stayed there.

We did get in law in 2011. And we, you know, it did need to start being scaled back, which is happening. And an unfortunate truth is we were going to have to negotiate with the Taliban eventually. That's just the way that part of the country works. We try to give them schools in democracy. They don't want it. They want their valleys. That's it.

So we have to start that. You certainly do not leave, drop the keys and leave overnight. That's the problem. Complete chaos because, I mean, it's almost to the point. Okay, okay, are you stupid or are you incompetent? It's one or the other. And if you're the chairman of the Joint Chiefs Staff, who's the highest ranking military officer, if you told him to pull out, you should be fired.

If you told him not to pull out, he didn't listen, you should resign. Where we lived, and I mean, a lot of, a lot of, lot of Americans, a lot of the coalition forces over there, if they screwed up this bad, they died. Or they got fired. You don't just, you don't just, you don't just, don't show up for the press brief because you're in the basement. Yeah. And I think that's where, I mean, I think we all probably as Americans agreed that it was time to get out of Afghanistan, but there's a way to do it. And that's what everyone's saying, well, Trump was going to try to pull out. It's like, yeah, Trump negotiated with the Taliban because you had to be in the room.

Joe Biden has not yet spoken to a world leader. It's been like five days. Another world leader. Like, he's, again, just, he's on vacation and checked out. Trump had conditions to the withdrawal. You heard Pompeo maybe on the news the other night, like X, Y, Z. You know, if those guys were coming out in these single roads that they've now blockaded coming into Kabul, Trump would have been drone in the hell out of us. You know, Joe Biden, no conditions, no nothing. And again, he pulled out our military before he got rid of the civilians.

There's a difference. You can be in agreement that it was time to get out. Yes. You can even be an agreement that some things could be, you know, it's never going to be great and the Taliban would always be there. But you can also say the execution was ridiculous. Joe, but you can talk a little bit about this, the fighting season because, you know,

we were going to pull out in late spring when it's still cold. People are, they're getting through a rough winter. You know, in the middle of August is literally the worst time. But Joe Biden wanted ownership. He wanted to be the guy that said, I did this. I did this on 9-11. So he delayed it. I did it on 9-11.

He wanted the photo off. It was like Kamala going to the border. You know, she was 1,000 miles away from the border where the real crisis is happening. but, you know, the media will cover her. Look, she's doing her job. She's next in line. She's definitely going to be the next president. First female president. Ra! She was 900 miles away from the actual crisis, you know, the point in McCallin. It was the same thing. Joe Biden wanted that photo op. He wanted to go down as this. So he changed what Trump had sort of negotiated. The other difference is the Taliban looked at Trump and realized, okay, like, we're not going to be trifle with

that guy. They watched Joe Biden give press conferences from an ice cream shop and they're like, yeah we can fuck with that guy like he's not going to do anything he's just a weak he's a weak guy and the one thing these guys understand i would think and rob you can speak to this better is strength oh easily easily they um the taliban are tough fighters they were scared shitless of boggram airfield scared to death and that's the first thing you give up what is that what is it bogram airfield is a russian airfield that we built up i mean to the point of comedy where i'm not kidding about karaoke night and green bean like it have like seven foot thick runways so you can literally yeah oh yeah yeah anything anything there and you got a

figure, so there's, I don't know, maybe four or six airstrips, jets everywhere, bombers everywhere, pilots, aircrew, security, Marines, soldiers, everything is right there. And you can, I mean, you got to figure, you have Bogdam Airfield, you have access, a footprint for Russia, for Iran,

for China, who's going to take it, by the way, watch and see, oh, and the Taliban won't fuck with China, you know why? Because China will kill you. And we just, we're at the point now where we're saying, well, the Taliban are assuring us they're going to allow safe passage of civilians to the airport, On what fucking planet are you living?

First of all, they're going to honor women's rights. That was the one I saw today. Yeah, horrifying. Really? Like the same people that throw gays off buildings that enslave and rape women and children on a daily basis. They're going to honor women's rights. But more important, the Taliban yesterday, they called out Joe Biden, be like, well, Joe Biden gave this speech and he left. Like, we're here answering questions.

They called out Facebook and Big Tech being like, you guys are the ones suppressing free speech. We're here answering questions. And as much as I don't want to give them. the Taliban credit for anything? Like, they're not wrong. That's how insane our walls has got. It's backwards. It's backwards.

It's like the Taliban is calling us out for being oppressive. Yes, the Taliban call the suppress. I mean, it's, you know, you're living in the Matrix, but they're not wrong. No, they're not wrong. One thing funny, though, just to get a little humor in there. Someone did send me a picture of those dudes in the wait room that we just gave back and he's on the on the treadmill. So what's this guy doing on the treadmill? I'm like, well, based on what I know of these people,

he's trying to figure out a way to either eat it or fuck it. Got it. Got it. So what's the, so there's three and a half years left of Biden, right? Yeah. So what's the play? Well, I mean, think about that. I mean, if you look at our border, right? Humanitarian crisis, you know, you have kids in cages.

You know, we didn't build the cages, but it was a really big deal that there were a couple kids in cages. Now you have kids in cages that are 700,000, 1,000 percent overflowing, right? COVID positive up to 18, 19 percent statistic I read. and they're just releasing them into McAllen, Texas. Like, again, if it were Trump, what would they be saying? Just like Obama built the cages, but that was not a problem. Trump using those cages, a huge problem, Joe Biden getting them and having them at overflow

capacity in the middle of a pandemic, sick and releasing them into society, not a problem. Just like if you're in New York right now, you need a vaccine passport to go to work, to go to dinner, to go out. But if you're COVID positive in McAllen, Texas, they'll just release you into society. and you can go do whatever it's an honor system just try not to go near anyone like you think that's going to work i mean there's just a hypocrisy that is just so flagrant these days it's so glaring and yet again no one's calling it out it's perhaps why you know i've been able to create a decent presence on social media because i'm one of the guys again like hey rob's done a great job of that

and by the way he calls out you know the bullshit on both sides and by the way even i do too because i mean there's there's plenty of these establishment republicans that i'm like uh guys like you know you go and you wax poetic, you know, when you're at a fundraiser talking conservative stuff, and then you go to D.C. and you fold so that some douchebag at Politico doesn't write a mean article about you. I'm like, that's, that's not who I want representing me either. Like, I want values and I want resolve, not sound bites and talking points. Right. One thing I want to know is, like, how much authority does Biden have when it comes to, like, pulling those troops out? Like, is that all his decision? Yeah, it can be. With the commander chief, you know, he's the commander

of all the forces. And like I said, if the chairman of the joint chiefs and national security advisor says one thing he the president can say no we're not doing that we're doing this um but there should have been i i hope there were people around him saying this is a horrible idea um because it's not going to it's not going to end well and if we can't get our 10 000 americans out we're we're jumping troops back in well it seems like some of the stuff i've read is that people were advising him like don't change the existing plan you know what i mean make sure there's conditions but again he he wanted to change it to make it his own he wanted to get the full credit for that so now he owns that shit? He's in order forever.

It's worse than the fall of Saigon. All he had to do was Steve Loggerman after. What was the move then? Like what? Because I know we, I don't think we were spending a lot of money there anymore, right? We didn't have a lot of people there. It didn't have a combat death in over 18 months. And, you know. Safer than Chicago.

Yeah. My father said it last night on any go, hey, you know, when I left Afghanistan, when I left my thing, for 18 months prior to that or whatever it was, there was not a single American casualty in Afghanistan. Which is significantly safer than Chicago, New York, or any of our big cities, all under democratic control. So what was this rush then?

Like, it seems like there must have been something else to it. Politics. He wants to own it. It's politics. I mean, if Joe Biden would have said, we're pulling out, this is my call, and we pulled out and everything was great. It's like, well, shit, awesome. But nobody thought that was going to happen. No one with it. I mean, of course, nowadays up is down, down is up. Like, if you tell the truth, you can get fired. And people just don't like the truth. They just want to say, yeah, I'm sure we'll be fine. The Taliban won't take it. We have, I mean, and they said, no, and even the bullshit about, oh, we have some tough Afghan fighters that we train. Look, you train them for 20

years. They're twice the size of the Taliban that lost in three days. Someone's not fucking fight. Did you see the video I put up on my Instagram? Like, I mean, it was, it was literally we spent $88 billion just on training. And you're watching these guys try to do jumping jacks. Like, check it out on my Instagram. Like, yeah, like, if you haven't seen the jumping jacks. Like it's, you know what I'm talking about. I know. I know. It's absolutely ludicrous. that you spent $88 billion. And again, it's just being cycled back into the pockets of the guys that are part of the military industrial complex and all of that stuff. They're getting rich off of it.

And again, there may be a politician in them, but then once they leave politics, they become a lobbyist. And they're lobbying for that. And that's how the money cycles. And it keeps those guys rich. It's why D.C. is the richest zip code in the country or one of the top three, but they don't actually produce anything other than they peddle influence. So what right now, back to Afghanistan, what is going on right now as we speak? So are they, we have soldiers there that are trying to evacuate Americans and Afghans who are... The Taliban had been planning this in mostly Kada, Pakistan for the past 15 years, what they're going to do.

And they're, they're, the plant, well, they didn't assume Bogdan would fall, but that worked out well for them. So then they can surround, well, it's called Hamid Karzai International Airport that'll let, maybe not anymore at this point, because they're going to rename it. But they're going to surround it and then now they have everyone trapped in the cities. They can't get into the airport to leave. so there's Taliban checkpoints everywhere and you know I just just on the front cover of the I think the New York Post today there's someone getting hacked to death with the machete outside of an ATM well they actually put out

you know they said yesterday I did a little like you know sort of like rumble Facebook video on it they literally put out a press release saying get to Hamid Karzai airport though the embassy says we cannot guarantee your safety like so they want you to travel there the at now the embassy don't forget the embassy now is in Taliban control right Joe Biden on July 8th said under no circumstances, will there be photographs of the Chinooks, I guess, or whatever it was that they were like, you know, of Saigon and 75. It's literally the same photo. Like, it almost looks like you can't tell the difference in the photo unless you look at the building. I posted a video, you know,

on my Twitter and Facebook that shows literally the photographs of them evacuating the embassy. This is six weeks ago. Joe Biden said under no circumstances, was that going to happen? They have the same helicopter evacuating people out of the embassy. The difference between this and Saigon is this is significantly worse because they forgot about the 10 to 40,000 Americans that were still there. And they got some of those embassy personnel out. The embassy fell. It's worse because there's 10 to 40,000 people that are stranded in Afghanistan. And they're saying, we can't guarantee your safety. The Afghans who worked with us. And that's, I mean, that's, they find out you worked certain areas with the Americans. They're not just going to skin you alive. They're going to

watch them, you get to watch them skin your kids alive. Then they'll get to you. So what we're saying to them. So the Department of State, for people who don't know, they, they sort of take care of the civilian sector and how to, you know, travel advisors, blah, blah, blah. So they're telling these Afghans, the State Department is saying, just contact the representative of the State Department. They had all evacuated. They got nothing. They got nothing. Contact the embassy. What embassy? Right. The embassy is in Taliban control. So you, some bureaucrat in D.C. I mean, I saw the media. Tom Cotton put out this thing on social media, the senator. He goes, listen, contact my office at this number. We will figure out a way to make it happen. The media starts going,

Oh, what are you going to do, Tom Cotton? It's like, well, the embassy fell. No one else is doing jack shit. Like, he's actually trying to help. Like, he's actually trying to proactively be part of a solution. You know, it's not ideal, but he served. And he understands how these things work and he sits on the Senate Armed Services Committee or whatever it may be. He may be able to help get something done and effectuate, like, change.

But the media jumps on him, oh, what are you going to do? Like, well, what are you guys doing? You're running cover for Joe Biden while he's on vacation. How many people are over there right now that we want to get? more people in, didn't we know? They said 6,000. How many people are in there right now that roughly that we want to get out?

We don't even know. That's the point. They put out a thing. Between 10 and 40,000, according to, I guess it was Americans. This is a little latitude. Well, but they said they resumed flights and in the last 24 hours, they had gotten something like six to 700 people out. So play it out.

If they're getting six to 700 people out in a 24-hour cycle and there could be up to 40,000 people, you're going to spend two months evacuating Americans? What do you think is going to happen? Like the Taliban, I understand the press is giving them a lot of, lot of attention. They're giving the Taliban a bigger platform than my father, the former president of the United States, who's not allowed to be on social media. What happens when the beheading start? Because you know they're going to start. Oh, they've already started. What happens when the raping starts? When they do, though, and that's something that we see on our end and we see

those happenings. What's the play? Well, they're going to control their media and, you know, they will. Do we go into it? It'll happen and we won't see it. Yeah, the Taliban's who do have a verified Twitter account, by the way. They won't put it on their Twitter account? They have a verified Twitter account? Yeah, of course. Why wouldn't they? No, the Taliban. Taliban spokesmen. I mean, it's a designated terrorist organization. And, like, they have it, but Donald Trump's not allowed to be on Twitter because he sent a couple of mean tweets. And I always say, you know what, looking at the world right now, I would take $1.85 gas, peace in the Middle East, a secure border, a booming economy, et cetera, et cetera, in exchange for a couple of mean, but probably also true in most cases tweets. That's true. Yeah. That's not the way we live in. That's not the world we live in. That's where we were. Mean tweets. But the Taliban right now are basically like, hey, we're going to comply with you guys, correct? Well, see, they know the world's watching them now. Yeah.

And, you know, who knows, they might let Americans out. But once they have control, I mean, they have it now in spots that we can't see. And these are not good people. These are as brutal as they get. These guys are as bad as ISIS. They'll burn you alive. They'll, you know, depending on the age of your daughters, these ones get their heads cut off. These ones are sex slaves.

You know, this one gets hung at the Coliseum. You know, that's what they do. And these are just bad, bad people. But they've been gearing up for this. they've been seething at this and they're there. And they know how our media works, right? So they know how to give them exactly what they want to get the coverage. You know, it's like when Putin says, like, well, what happened to Ashley Babbit?

Putin could care less about what happened to Ashley Babbit in the Capitol. But it's a way of calling out the hypocrisy and he knows the media is going to jump. It's like when China starts saying, well, that's not really woke. I mean, you got to, like China doesn't give a share. Like they literally are committing genocide against the Uighur Muslims in China. They're slaving people. They have death camps. They don't care.

but they know how to manipulate our media and they're just acting like a puppet master so that our media goes after ourselves and we end up eating our own. We eat our own and that's how they gain leverage on a world stage. What do you think your father would have done differently? Because these guys kind of surprised them, right?

Well, listen, like I said, Pompeo's talked about it the other night in terms of the details. Like, you know, there were conditions to this thing. They weren't going to do it at a time, you know, during the summertime when, you know, the Taliban, they're literally bored. They got nothing to do but fight. You know, you can speak to this. We've been calling.

at the fighting season. We've known it every year since 2001. They fight in the summer and then the winter sucks. Yeah, the winter sucks. They go high, you know, things are calmer so you can do it so you don't have this massive surge. He would have been droning the shit out of the, you know, the highways coming in. I mean, there were just caravans and convoys. You'd be, it'd be like the original Iraq war, right? You'd get a, you know, get an A10 and just run down the line, you know, shooting depleted uranium at these things. And you could take out, you know, tens of thousands. There would have been real conditions. There would have been fear in the back of the mind of these guys saying, like, hey, you know, I'm going to get nuked on this road going in there. They wouldn't do it the same

way. It would have given the Afghan fighting forces if they wanted to actually fight, you know, a chance because it wouldn't just be this deluge, this onslaught at once. But again, Joe Biden changed that plan because he wanted credit on the world stage. He's so not there that he figured, hey, if I do this, it'll go great. And I can take credit for this. And now he owns it. So what, like, consequences that's going to have now in the West? What do you think, if you're sitting in Taiwan right now, what do you think's happening? What do you think happened in the last week to sort of, you know, the notion of being an American ally?

You're an American ally. We just abandoned, you know, 40,000 Americans up to, possibly, you know, in Afghanistan. What do you think Taiwan's thinking? Whatever China's timeline, and there is a timeline for taking over Taiwan, it just accelerated a thousand times because they're going around saying, see, you can't rely on America. Like, we just made ourselves so weak on a world stage that I don't think the average person can fathom it. I mean, if you're an ally of the U.S., we just told all of them, like, we're there with you, but we're not really there with you. Like, when the shit hits the fan, we are leaving and tucking tail.

Well, we've, we've, our strength has been a triage of forward defense deterrence and alliance solidarity. And that's how you can, you can win, you can, you can win without firing a shot. but once we lose our allies like this I mean it's like they don't trust us I wouldn't trust us I would not be an interpreter anywhere for the United States right now yeah and if you're in Taiwan and you're talking about that out like you know what China come on in

you know if you're in any one of the places that China's essentially trying to colonize around the world they're like you know what we'll take their money we'll take the briefcase of cash they're giving us under the table the Americans you know they got to play by different rules they're not going to like China's going to take over the world so don't is that with where earth minerals it's what they've done

with everything and that's their plan and that was going to happen probably one way or the other because they're actually, you know, they're smart and they don't play by rules, meaning, you know, they don't care about political niceties. You know, they're not trying to please anyone. They could care less. They have one mission and one mission alone, and they're able to think beyond two weeks from now when we have our next election to say, this is where we want to be in 100 years, and this is how we want to be in a hundred years. And this is how we're everything else doesn't matter. We don't think that way. We're so short-sighted. We make stupid decisions so we can have a win for next week so that we can get reelected, continue to keep power, get that board seat in the future. you know, America's future be damned. I mean, we've leveraged the shit out of our country. You know, our children's futures are screwed because we just, hey, what's another couple trillion dollars? Joe Biden, you know, a couple trillion dollars to teach critical race theory, you know, and woke bullshit to our children. Who cares? It's infrastructure because

everything's infrastructure. You know, your sneakers are now infrastructure, Bob. Like, that's where we've gotten. And they don't care because it's not their money. But it allows them to keep power and it allows them to then later make money again. And that's why my dad got involved in this in the first place. He was like, listen, I'm a business guy. Like, he's been watching this shit pissed off for decades. And now you're seeing, because you said it right, right? We're only seven months in. Like, we've got two humanitarian crises, right?

The border unquestionably. Again, you don't have the coverage because the media is one way, but it's a crisis. Afghanistan, serious crisis. Inflation, serious crisis. I mean, we're going to destroy the middle class of this country. And then, you know, by the way, the next crisis is going to be the refugee crisis. And, you know, there are definitely some great people, probably in Afghanistan. And there are people that we have no idea what their intentions are.

You know, I have friends in the Border Patrol. I mean, for the last few months, he's like, hey, like a good percentage. And I don't mean like one or two. I mean, like significant double-digit percentage are like, yeah, they're guys from the Middle East coming in. Like, they just see. It's a poorest border. Now, if you're a Cuban refugee who's being shot at by your government, you stay put. You're not allowed in the country.

We don't want you because the Democrats in power don't want someone who's maybe against communism and socialism, which is where they're ultimately trying to push something. So if you're a Cuban refugee seeking asylum and actually deserving asylum, not like I just want to come to America for the free shit, which is what you see a lot at the southern border, but people who are actually getting shot at by an oppressive regime that's jailing them

for simply wanting freedom and for speaking out against the government, they're not allowed in because they've experienced what socialism and communism does. So this is one of the things I talk about a lot and media goes crazy because, like, what do you know about it? I know about it because my mom,

mother escaped it. You know, my mother was from communist Czech Slovakia. She escaped because she was a good athlete. She was an Olympic skier and she got to Canada and then came into the U.S. legally and like was never going back. And I remember as a kid, you know, I saw my parents like with their wedding picture. I was like, well, why is my grandfather there but not my grandmother? And they basically explained it. It was like, well, like they wouldn't let them both out of the country because they knew if they both got out of the country, no one was ever coming back. So I'm like, sounds like a wonderful system. Let's bring it here. And my grandparents sort of made sure that I experienced that. It's sort of probably indirectly, meaning I didn't know it at the time,

but it was probably how I sort of became a conservative because as a kid, they, when they got to come to America and saw what we had here and the freedoms that we have and all the shit that like, you know, these Bernie Sanders supporters and these 12-year-old kids regurgitating what their high school professors are indoctrinating them with. Like, they saw that and they're like, oh man, like, you got to see the other side. So at five years old, I spent my summers in like communist Czech Slovakia. Like, I've waited in those breadlines and I can assure you They're not nearly as glamorous as Bernie Sanders would have you believe. Are you going to run for office?

You know, I don't have intentions of it right now, but I'm in the game 100%. Like I think I can actually do more helping. Rob's been on the road with me as we've done that in Montana and elsewhere. Like, you know, I want to help 30 other guys because that's the problem. Like one guy in D.C., there's so many, even on our side. Like, you know, these like stiff schmucks, again, they tell you what you want to hear. They then vote for you. Then they go to D.C. and do whatever the establishment tells them.

So, you know, I definitely, I'm in the game. fully. Like, you know, and right now I think I can do more, you know, as, as one guy helping 40 guys than, you know, one guy in, in the office and, and doing all that. But no, I'm going to stay vocal. You have to. What about your, what about your father? You think your father will run again? Listen, I'm watching him. And, you know, again, I think Joe Biden's legacy will be showing America how good they actually had it under Trump. You know, I know you'll never hear that, but just there's not, there's not a metric where we're not significantly better off. Now, they'll say, No, no, no. Well, statistically speaking, you know, you saved 16 cents on your, you know, July 4th barbecue. Remember that? 16 cents. Now, if you drove your car to pick up your steak, if you went about seven yards because of the energy prices, that savings was gone. You know, if you drove a quarter of a mile, it was gone. But they won't talk about that. So, you know, they'll figure out a way to manipulate the numbers to make it seem so great. But like, the reality, it's a disaster. And now they're going to dump another, you know, they dump two trillion dollars. They're like, look, everything's great. Yeah.

You just stuck $2 trillion onto your kids and grandkids futures. So, of course, it's great. There's all this extra money in the economy, but, like, they're paying people to sit at home. I mean, I moved to Florida. I just trying to get people to work. I speak to the contractors doing work on my house. They're literally like, I can't get someone to show up because they're making more money sitting on their couch than they would be working. Or they'll work two days a week for cash.

Yeah. Take the government money as well. And they're like net ahead doing nothing. So if you're a betting man, you think your dad will run again? Listen, it seems like it. It seems like he's into it. I mean, and honestly, I'd like to see it because the problem that we have is it doesn't seem like there's a bench on our side. There's a natural bench on the Democrat side because, you know, they have their sort of fluffers in the media, you know, that'll make everyone a hero, right?

You know, AOC, she's the greatest thing in the world. Rashida Taleb, she's wonderful. She's a, you know, brilliant politician. Like, you know, none of the hypocrisy, none of the lies that it's harder on our side. And I don't know that we have enough people yet that will fight back the way my father will. where he just doesn't care. He just takes the arrows. He just keeps fighting.

He doesn't give a shit. Like, we don't have that yet. Our guys are still, you know, our bench isn't deep enough that we have enough people that aren't afraid of the swings and arrows that come at you when you're a politician

and you're a conservative. Yeah, we have a bunch of pussies. And look at the, look at the Republicans that voted for the infrastructure bill just because they got pork in there. Yeah. They'll get reelected.

They're not playing the long game. They're playing to the next election. And like the Taliban was at us, same with China. They say America has the clock, but we have the time. They're all playing the long game. And we're fucking our kids over.

They don't even realize it because communism has indoctrinated them to thinking the shit they're being taught. Because Nikita Kruchev said say in the 1950s, we're going to take over Hollywood. We're going to take over your schools and your media. And they did. And they said, we're going to beat America without fighting a shot. And no one even talks about that. It's like there's just because you're not at, just because you're not at war doesn't mean someone's not at war with you. And it's just a shame.

And with this country, we have the capability to do whatever. we want a force for good and we won't do it. We just call each other names. What do you think like the future of the U.S. is like if it's this divided, like, what do you think? Is how are we headed for like a civil war, like anarchy? It's divided between like the Beltway and New York. That's the media and the politicians and stuff in Hollywood.

I get out. You guys travel a lot. When you meet people, regardless of the side of the aisle, Americans are really, really good people. Americans will help each other. Americans agree with each other. And it's not like the, it's not the, it's not the Republicans or the Democrats, you know, the conservatives of liberals. It's the fucking crazies and the fucking crazies. And they're the loudest because, you know, the loudest booze come from the cheapest seats.

And that's just how to most people are good. I'm confident in it. I think they're also waking up. I hope a lot of people are waking up. I think the media, like, look at what you guys are doing, right? I mean, you're catering to a younger demographic. You're doing that because there was literally no one talking the counterpoints to the other side. So I think you guys have an incredible opportunity.

And I think, you know, people were watching, you know, wow, had I known about Hunter Biden's laptop, like, I wouldn't have voted for, you know, imagine it was me. You know, so, you know, imagine it was me doing crack. They say that, because I'm animated and I am aggressive and loud as fuck. They say they, darn juniors on cocaine. I'm like, you have pictures of that dude, like in 50 situations, smoking crass. So what does he do? Does he just rail a bunch of blow and just like, I guess. Like, if I was selling art to undisclosed buyers for half a mill,

million dollars having net like Picasso sold last week, you know, for like 150 grand, Hunter Biden's selling art for half a million dollars. You think they'd have a problem if it was me. Like, he's not even an artist, but he became one. If I took a billion dollars from China, it would be a problem. If I was in dealings with Russian oligarchs with ties to Putin, like that would actually be Russia collusion. Is Hunter even doing anything when it comes to? But does it matter? Like, you know what I mean? Like 10% for the big guy. Like I wasn't in government. Right. I didn't have an office in the White House. Now, I'm vocal because we were up against literally everyone. So it's like, you know, in my way, like, that's how I thought. Like,

it was like, fuck it. Someone's got to say this stuff. So I think America, to sort of the bigger point that you were bringing up, there's like, I think they're onto it. I think media has lost all credibility. I think they realize that media has really become sort of like political entertainment. Like, how can we take an outrageous stance and be outraged for clicks and clickbait? I think they're getting it. And I see that. And, you know, again, I get it, dude. I'm an unlikely sourced to be, you know, tied in with sort of middle America, but, you know, what I call the dark zone everywhere between New York and Malibu, but like my hobbies, whether it's shooting and hunting and, like, I'm there. That's where I actually spend my free time and, like,

that's where my friends are. You've seen that. I don't think you can fake that. No. You know, politicians try all the time, but like this is actually, you know, Rob actually saw this because we did some campaigning. And I guess it was GQ magazine. You actually paid me one of the great compliments I had in my life. I'm not bullshit. And GQ followed us. We were campaigning in Montana. And someone asked me about shooting and hunting and I sort of started rambling because that's what I do when I was a competitive long range shooter. And so they go to Rob and they're like, okay, like they wanted to try to sort of get me. Like, so, you know, Don's talking about shooting and long range and competitively. But like he's really full of shit, right? And Rob was actually

like, dude, like I was, I was a seal sniper and like Don's forgotten more about this shit than I'll ever know. Not even bullshit. Yeah. It's one of the great compliments of my life. I don't know if I've ever told you that. But like it was. So, you know, for me, you know, you got some street cred there. So when you say it actually means. something. And these guys were like, oh. Well, it's funny when someone knows more, because I was a sniper. And when someone knows more about ballistics, me, they're like, well, so what, how does this work with the wind counts and then the trigger? I'm like, I don't know. I pull the trigger and the dude's wife screams. I don't know. But I spend my time in that world and I do it and I, that's where

I enjoy it. But like, those people, they're getting it. Like the people who were uninvolved are starting to get involved. The people who were in the middle and were like, you know, maybe I don't like Trump's tone. And by the way, there's a big percentage of people that still think that they're very, you know, just innocent, just good God family country, Americans. They're like, you know, I don't love that tone. I think now they realize that that tone was there because you needed to be. Because you're the only guy actually standing up. And when, you know, when they're attacking you, they're attacking your family. Don't forget. Like, Don Jr. committed treason. Don John Jr. was dealing with the Russia. Don Jr. perjured himself. He should be, treason. Like a crime

punishable by death. Like senators. people on intelligence committees were saying that I did these things, you know, going after your family that way. Now you start to realize, like, you know what, maybe the mean tweets, maybe if they attack you that way, and by the way, now he's proven to be right. Like, name something he wasn't proven to be right about, essentially, you know what I mean, in big issues in the end. Maybe that's why there's a mean tweet because, like, you're the only one out there actually fighting. So I think people are on to that, you know, and they're starting to realize, like, what's actually going on. And I think that's important. Speaking from, like, the young, oh, shit.

Uh-oh. Boys, what the fuck? This budget, like, porn set that you guys got going on. We got Don Jr., Robert O'Neill. I forgot to tell you. You have your father who's decided to come in and join us here tonight. Hey, dad. The surprise, your father has decided to join us here.

Did I take it too far? I forgot to tell you, I do have ghosts that follow me around and do shit like that all the fucking time. So that's not on you guys. It's not on you and your cheap ass set. Would you have been the guy right now, and real back to Afghanistan here real quick? Because that's the biggest thing going on right now, obviously. Would you have been a guy that they call in, right now? Are they sending in all the best

elite forces? Right now, it wouldn't be it wouldn't be, yeah, it would well, sort of. They might have some special forces guys there. But it's not really, our thing is more of a point target, hit them in the house, kill the, kill the high value target. This is more of an 80 second airborne type thing where they jump in a bunch of badasses.

Land the Marines in there. And Marines are really, really good at this shit. I mean, we haven't really seen our troops fight in a while and it's really impressive. If I can describe, what our infantry and our Marines do. It's very fast, loud, violent, and permanent.

Like, they're just good. And they yell a lot, which I think is badass. Well, I had to ask some guys in Fallujah. What are you guys yelling for? Use your radios. Like, radios. Hurrah. The inside jokes we don't get.

I never heard the balls to do what you do. Oh, no, no. I'm pretending of laughing with you. Well, no, and the shitty thing about this, too, is you find humor in the darkest places. And a lot, I mean, a lot of vets are really hurt right now. They're pissed off. but they do have some humor from this

what we're seeing and they're going to go back and they'll fight and they'll crush the Taliban and you know it just sucks that we had to redo it because that's what happens when you when you lie it long enough you're going to keep like the whole thing if you don't learn from history you repeat it

and we're just repeating it again we just we refuse to win like like okay September 12th 2001 we could kick the shit out of them and we did and you know they we had B-52s over there we have stealth bombers crushing them. S-F guys, CIA operator on the ground, killing, killing, and then, you know, kill Al-Qaeda. That's it. And we can do it again. We're very capable. Our Navy's

cable. We can take anybody. We just need someone to stop with the bullshit. And maybe it's more important that my men and women have guns than worry about which bathroom they get to use today. Well, that was, I mean, again, you can affirm that if this is accurate, but I have, you know, other friends that are in the teams and stuff like that. They literally told me, and I quote, Like, we have spent more time in diversity training than shooting. Seals. Really? Like, yes.

More time in diversity training. And then you see the generals. No, no, no. The diversity training makes us a stronger fighting force. Like, overshooting? Like, I don't, I don't see it. I have also not done what Rob has done. And, you know, at the same time, I know enough guys that, you know, the door kickers that are like, that is total bullshit.

You have consent. But they're still doing it. It are. And, you know, it's seriously equal opportunity. And when I was getting out, the big thing was. was we got to repeal um don't ask don't tell and we're in afghanistan i'm with a bunch of seals i'm like do any of you guys really fucking care if someone's gay no absolutely not uh and i had i actually had someone on the right try to call me out for um christin beck's my friend who is a

transgender of navy seal for 24 years now transgender woman and uh they said uh what do you say to Kristen Beck. And I said, I say what everyone should. Nice tits, bro. You do you, man. That's fine. But you don't need to shovel this down to throw for no reason when you're wasting time on everything. We're shooting. Learn how to shoot. Learn how to set a breaching charge. Learn how to skydive. Um, you know. Yeah. Yeah. The new BMO, V.I. Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks. More points. More flights. More of all the the things you want in a travel rewards card and then some get your ticket to more with the new bemo

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wear a diaper on their face and there's psychological problems that come with it, etc. Like, I don't know that we've seen actual numbers that show it's different. When I look at, you know, as a former New Yorker, now that I live in Florida, I mean, literally a vaccine passport to go to work. Now, if I were the left and this was the right doing it, they'd say, well, you know, what is it, like 60 something percent of African Americans in New York did not get the vaccine. You know, there's plenty of history as to why they may be skeptical about a government mandating it. So is that Jim Crow 2.0? We hear about that all the time. I mean, you're basically saying so African Americans now can't go to work as, you know, the largest group of unvaccinated people in New York. They can't go to work. They can't go out because if it was a Republican doing it, they'd be saying it's racist.

But it's like they don't care because they're immune to that sort of criticism, right? So, I mean, the notion of a, and I'm not an anti-vaxxer, if you want to get it, great. If I'm against you being like, you're putting that shit in your arm or you can't live in America. Because that to me does not lead to a good place. You know, the whole, you know, papers, please things throughout history probably hasn't ever resulted in a good outcome. We're totally losing freedom, like of our house. We've given it up so easily. I have a good solution for this.

Oh, yeah, I'm going to listen to these guys. It's like, why? Fauci? Like, does, do people really still think that, like, Fauci has. credibility? I mean, is there any? Media loves him still. No, no, no. He's never met a camera. What is your, what is your solution? My solution

to this is if they asked me for my papers, I'm going to say, I don't have any identification. I'm just on my way to vote. You know, so that'll be good. So you were fine with getting the vaccine. I'm full with it. I don't, I think you missed the subtle jab in there, but you're right. It's not racist to need,

because Bell de Blasio said it yesterday. You need your vaccine card and a proper form of ID to go to work or to go to a restaurant or to go to the gym. well, why is it so, why is it all of a sudden then racist to say you need the same to vote to make sure that someone's not double counting or someone isn't pretending to be someone else? And again, it's just the hypocrisy. They don't believe any of this shit. They just can sell it because they have a trillion dollar media complex, a trillion dollar social media complex that is literally their marketing department.

It's like, okay, you know, the Taliban terrorist can have a Twitter account, but Donald Trump can't because, you know, a couple of me. What's the goal with the vaccine passports then? Probably control. I mean, it all seems like it all falls back down to control. Yeah. You know, we want to do this. Just the way to I do people whenever they want. We're going to break you so that you just understand that you are just an,

it's the push towards socialism, communism, right? Everyone's going to be this way, and we're going to tell you what you can and can't do. And honestly, there's been a big percentage of Americans that have just sort of gone, you know, willy-nilly. And again, I don't care if you get it. Like, if I was 85 with pre-existing conditions, like, I'd be all over it. But it's the government telling you, you must do something that sort of feels like it's just, you know, against everything we have always valued as Americans, and yet a lot of Americans have not yet figured that out

and have just given it up pretty damn quickly. So should I go and get the vaccine right now? It's up to you. It's up to you. Like, you know, if you need it for part of your life or this, but like this notion, like you need it, again, if it's effective and you follow the science because we're told we must believe in the science,

well, you know, like, you know, you better use an umbrella to keep me dry. Like, how does that, I don't understand. Like if you have it, then you should be safe. If you wear a mask, then you should be safe. What difference does it make if someone else is doing it? But, you know, again, they only follow the science when they can use the science to further their gain. The second the science goes against that, they ignore it and it's totally forgotten. And again, the hypocrisy is what pisses me off more than anything.

And I think a lot of young people just see right through it too. They see that it's a lot more about control. So statistically speaking, if you're 20, I think, or under and you had COVID, like 99.99.97 percent survival rate. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that 0.003 were like severe diabetics. The ones that die, the literally small handful, and it's terrible that it happened. I got to acknowledge that because otherwise they'll kill me. They'll kill me anyway. But, you know, it's terrible. But I imagine they probably had some sort of severe medical, preexisting medical condition. Maybe a condition they weren't necessarily aware of. But like to then say, like, we're going to start vaccinating all these kids and all. of that and it doesn't really matter to do something that you're statistically better off getting than the common flu. It makes no sense to me. It shouldn't make sense to anyone else. And yet the outrage is... Well, if you go against a party line, though, you can get canceled. I have a lot of friends, again, combat veterans who have said stuff on certain platforms and then they just turn

them off. Correct. Or you're a commentator. And if you say something against it, you're, hey, guess what? You're not coming back on CNN to talk about military affairs because you're not giving us what we want. So we'll find a vet who will give us what we want. So it's not an objective opinion, but they say, oh, look, no, he's a veteran. You can't criticize that. I go, but there's 30 other guys that would say exactly the opposite. 30 other guys, perhaps with a lot more actual combat experience, I would say the exact opposite.

But he's giving you the soundbite that you want. So he becomes the hero. They build him up. He starts figuring out how to monetize that. And that's how the game goes. Yes. You don't want to get canceled. You're getting, no, don't get canceled.

They'll pay you more. Start saying what they want. It's all about me. And that's, I mean, that's the sad truth about it. I mean, the thing that I don't like, I mean, you don't know what's being told anymore. You don't know the truth. Correct. They could be saying anything.

The media can say anything. But, I mean, it's up with the media does. And, I mean, let's be honest with this. China released a biological weapon to see how the West would respond. And we completely shut down. Yeah. Well, and I talk about this, right? That would really happen.

Well, by the way, hey, now they're actually saying, but a year ago, I was like, hey, guys, like, why is it that, like, people we knew got canceled for saying, hey, there's a chance that it came from the Wuhan lab. So I'm saying, wait a minute, when was that ever not the most plausible response? Meaning, you're telling me it came because someone ate a bat about four feet outside of the lab that studies the fucking virus in question. Like, you mean, there's no possibility, zero, that it came from the lab that research is the exact thing that was released into society. The virus was named after the lab. Yeah, it came from, no, no, no, two feet outside of the lab. Is anyone that dumb?

And yet our medical community did it. If you were a doctor and you said, hey, there's a chance. Not even saying that it happened. There's a chance that it came from the lab. You were canceled and shut out. Now a lot of the guys say, well, we kind of knew, but we just didn't want to be on the same page as Trump. Because they were afraid of getting canceled because that's how fucking science works, right? The laws of physics no longer matter.

It doesn't matter what the laws of physics say because the CNN narrative is otherwise. And therefore, we can bend the rules of science and physics and math is racist to a achieve and ends. And that's pretty scary because it was always the most plausible. Now, again, another thing that could be would be that China did this perhaps on purpose, right? That's another theory. I'm not saying it happened, but like who benefits from a virus that kills predominantly the oldest people that China probably doesn't want to take care of when they have a population of a billion four that are aging and starting to experience a little bit of wealth for the first time in their lives? You can no longer just say, you know, fuck you guys like they could have a couple

years ago. Another theory, again, no one even thinks about saying it because you'd get canceled. And I'm not saying it happened because they'll cancel me for even talking about it. But like, it's a theory. And in America, you used to be able to have these conversations and talk about them as maybe this happened. Maybe this happened. Maybe it's all a total accident. Maybe it did come from eating a bat. I doubt it. It doesn't seem like that would be statistically probable. I doubt it. Like, I don't know, people have probably been beating bats for generations and it hasn't released this many pandemics. And, you know, then they show you the photos of the wet markets. The problem is I've been told that some of those photos came from like Indonesia, not Wuhan, China. So it's like, we're just fill in the blank here. This is

how we feed the narrative. So there's so many things that could go on, so many things that are likely or at least plausible, meaning they could have been real that we just discount and just say there's no way. That can't happen because it doesn't work to our ends. Like the scientists who said, yeah, we knew that was probably, you know, likely or probable. or possible, but we couldn't do it because we couldn't be on the same page as Trump because we'd get canceled, even if he was right. It's like you get in trouble for, you know, Mao said Merry Christmas. So you said Mary, well, he said it. You know, it's like the Taliban. I don't agree with anything they say, but they're not wrong about calling out the hypocrisy of Facebook.

Like, they're right on that one. Like, I don't agree with anything they say. But in that case, they're not wrong. And I'm not wrong for saying they're right about something they're actually right about. That's how truth works. The truth gets confused too. I'm sorry. I was over here thinking about I've never, I've said a lot of shit in my life. I've never said, hey, will you please pass the bat? How does that go? You didn't have bat kebabs? I mean, you've probably eaten some pretty bad shit.

Yeah, I don't think I had a bat. So what is, so to kind of, I don't know, wrap this up here a little bit. So what is the solution now? I mean, everybody's all you bickering on the internet. Everybody's going crazy. We have three and a half years left of Biden. We have this thing going on in Afghanistan. What's the solution to Afghanistan right now?

well this i mean the hard truth is the solution is going to be to have the taliban take it and and it's going to be atrocious what they do there uh i believe that the the taliban itself is not really interested in attacking the west uh they they want their country they want their valleys they want their roads that are there the problem is they'll bring in a lot of foreign fighters are coming in now they're talking the worst the worst ISIS al-Qaeda to those people um we they there will be training camps uh hopefully we i mean we can you know we can fly a jet from missouri and bomb them in Afghanistan if we had to, which we've done. But, you know, if it comes to that, the problem is there are people out there that really want to kill us.

And there's partisan bickering back and forth. They don't give a shit about that because they want to kill – it doesn't matter what you look like, where you're from. They want to kill you because you don't believe what they believe – you should believe about their God. That's it. And so, unfortunately, the training can't come back. We just hit them. Afghanistan's going to suck. It's sucked for a thousand years.

It'll continue to suck. It's it. I mean, it's atrocious. And, I mean, don't get me wrong. Some of the best, nicest, most welcoming people I've ever met where Afghanistan is in Afghanistan, I feel my heart goes out to him. It's just a bad place right now. And, I mean, you know, 300 fighting or 800 fighting age males on a C-17 leaving, you're going to have to fight for yourself eventually. So it just sucks.

Yeah, I mean, listen, I don't have a solution to Afghanistan, obviously. I mean, Rob's going to be the expert in that. And I'll leave that, you know, to the guys like him that actually know. But, you know, my solution is more about, you know, high-level pitcher. Don't think, open your eyes. like educate yourselves like you know question you know what you're being told don't just take everything for gospel don't just believe whatever they're trying to spoon feed you like it's going to make you critical thinking is like gone right education and academia is it's about regurgitation at

this point you know critical thinking i think is important i think when people start doing that when they start questioning it's going to a make life a lot easier for them like you'll go so much further if you're actually able and capable of actually thinking outside of the box so you know my Yeah, my whole involvement in all of this is just getting people to open their eyes to see what's actually going on. If you end up thinking that it is what it is and what they're supposed, that's fine. But at least be open to the notion that it's kind of nonsense and be open to the notion that the facts don't necessarily line up with those arguments and take the time to actually figure out what is and what isn't. And so, you know, I think we have to just do that as a society for us to actually continue as a country. That's a big thing.

Yeah, I mean, you know, the ghost is back. So, you know, I'm just going to keep, you know, being out there. And, you know, if I don't get canceled seven times on a Wednesday, it's, you know, it's been a slow day and I started wondering when they're plotting against me. What happened? I think people just got to stop taking what we have for granted, too. You see what's going on over there. And like, I hear that from a lot of people my age, too, is just like, you got to realize, like,

even in North America. You know what I mean? You're not. You can be any skin color. You can come from anywhere. And you can fucking achieve anything you want. Like, you look at a country like Afghanistan. It's just like, you got to be fucking great.

for what we have like just shut up and fucking work you know don't make excuses you basically summed it up right there I mean that was what like my point with my grandparents in communism which is like no like you're going over there so you know how goddamn good you have it so you understand exactly how blessed you are

and like we've forgotten about that entirely I mean some of the spoiledest people in the world are sitting there talking about you know how oppressed they are getting paid to sit on the couch you don't know anything you think that's an issue too some prominent people need to stop fucking complaining like NBA players and like Listen, I think so, too.

I mean... Well, they don't have a choice in the NBA because their masters are in China. Yeah. And that's all the... Same with Hollywood, right? The tennis uses stuff like that. Well, yeah, I mean,

remember the apology and Mandarin? I was actually impressed that John Cena could speak Mandarin. First of all, second of all, I'm never going to watch any of his shit again. Yeah, because they're just, they're owned by there,

because they got a billion four people that are spending money on the goods. So it's like, it's not that, like, you know, you see a LeBron, like they try to make them out studios. He's always reading a book, but it's always on page one. Have you ever noticed that? Like, you've seen that picture.

It's all his book page. Like, hey, he's a business guy. He's making a decision that way. But it doesn't mean he's right. You know, it doesn't mean he's the guy that's the most well-versed on this thing. I mean, he's probably worth a billion dollars. I don't know that he was all that impressed, you know, oppressed. Like, shouldn't he be through?

Is this the Fox set and the NBC set that you guys go on to? This is basically like a high-end version of the apprentice. Hey, but by the way, hats off to you, to Mr. Trump here. I was expecting an entourage. I was expecting security. The guy drops his fucking kids off at school, shows up by himself. So, yeah, well, listen, you know, what the media makes me out to be is not necessarily accurate. And that's okay, you know, it doesn't matter.

But, yeah, you know, I don't put conditions on my stuff. Meanwhile, O'Neill, that was actually scary. If you come into my house, that made me a little bit of a problem. There's someone looking at it. The funny quick story real quick is I was out with him in, we were in New York City. We went to actually, Dana was nice enough to host us for a fight. Oh, I'll spite you guys. Which one do we go to?

Do you remember? You know what? No, because we did hit a bar before that. Yeah. So I know it was good. Was that the recent one? Was that that Mazved-L-Dia? It was like, Dakota Meyer Medal of Honor recipient, me, O'Neill. My wife was there, Jessica. You called me about that yet. I wasn't in town. Yeah, that's right. And then, yeah, we got to meet me some of the fighters. A lot of locals from, well, locals in Manhattan. Yeah, man, that was fun, though. And I remember, though, I said, I never felt safer. I got the Medal of Honor, the recipient. And by the way, I did say, I was like, man, Dakota, congratulations, you won the Medal of Honor. He's like, you don't win. You don't win.

the Medal of Honor. No, Bob. I was like, it's not the Super Bowl. You're right. Don't win. You're awarded the middle of the middle. Yeah, he's awesome, too.

But I told them, I said, did you tell about the deal Dakota was saying? What was he saying? He'd give you a hand job? Oh, yeah. He said you never show up. He'll give you handy. I tried again.

I wanted the Medal of Honor recipient here too, Dakota. We miss you and whatnot. But yes, I did. I did say this, though. I said, I've never felt safer with two guys in a room. And Robert said, well, I wouldn't,

because I have a bounty on my head for, what, $20 million? I don't know what it's up to yet, but I've had people say that as speeches I've given before. They said, are you scared for your security? I'm like, first of all, I'm not scared for my security. I'm aware of it. My head's out of the sand. I have stuff in place, you know, everything you can, guns, dogs, cameras.

But, and if they're going to, you know, they're not going to come after me as a point target. They're going to, it's going to be a horrifying suicide event in a room full of Americans. And you can see everyone go, what? So I'm not more any scared than you should be right now. Probably true. And it's probably easier than doing it one on one. But hopefully not the full send podcast set. Yeah, yeah.

Well, no, this place is a fortress. We're well protected here. Yes. Very well protected. That's like a blast shield. We're getting there. That's funny. Love it.

Well, I think this is it. I really appreciate you guys coming on. I think this is cool. We're going to pop this up tonight. It's relevant. We'll see what people think. Emergency episode here. Emergency episode, full-send podcast.

We'll post it ourselves. 100%. Thank you, Don. Thank you, Robert. Bob, you stepped it up with this crew. I mean, look. You might be here to stay. It's the best right here, these two.

These guys are the best. Depends who you asked. There's a lot of Americans that would grossly disagree with you. I forgot about that. Robert, we're going to go have a drink? Cocktail? Yep. Perfect.

Great. I love it. All right, guys. Thank you. Thank you so much. Thank you. Thank you.