FULL SEND PODCAST - Donald Trump Jr. x Nelk Boys | Ep. 81

Episode Date: April 6, 2023

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I love how we're doing Donald Trump Jr. at Twin Peaks. I know, honestly. I love it. Yeah, like, as soon as I found out in the car, I was like, wait, this is actually hilarious. It's a good location, man. Yeah. Shout out to Twin Peaks. They've been supporting Happy Dad for a long time.

So we always got to pull up the spots that are supporting Happy Dad, do the pod. It's been an interesting week, though. How you feeling, Stiney? Good. Stiney's still doing research, dude. He's still on his phone. He's worried. No, I'm reading.

He's like, what am I going to say? What am I going to ask? No, dude. Just let it flow, man. You're good. I'm good to go. You got this. Call your dad one more time.

Be like, Oh, Harvey. This what's so interesting about the full send podcast, though. I guess last week was probably Seabum. And then now we have Donald Trump Jr. And then next week's probably a Bella Danger. Insane. It's good variety.

It's just like you go from Donald Trump Jr. To a Bella Danger. Yeah. From next after that, it'll be Stormy Daniels. I feel like this is your episode. That's, this is your episode. Seabom was yours. I'll take care of a Bella Danger.

You feel like this is his episode. Yeah. I'm heavily relying on you. You think you're suited to take care. care of a bell of danger yeah you are yes okay all right no i'm ready for i'm leaning on you this episode do you like these podcast trips when it's like yeah because this trip we partied like fucking animals but we're also by tonight we're gonna have three podcasts done this is this is the best way to do it it's kind of like we're pretty productive you know i'd say super productive

hell yeah all right yeah we got another awesome episode today this actually a part two for us we have Donald Trump, Jr. What's going on? Last time we had you on was with, it was a cool episode. We did it with Robert O'Neill. It was actually, I think it was like our third episode ever.

So, I appreciate you. Before you got canceled with my dad. Exactly before that. And all of that. But I'm actually sort of surprised they didn't cancel that one, but I guess it was early.

I know. No, we appreciate you coming on like that early in the podcast when we were just building it to. Yeah. I was curious, they canceled it on your dad.

Do you think they're going to cancel this one? You know, let's see where we go. But there's a solid chance. Because in a way, you're kind of like more outspoken than your father sometimes. Well, you know. Not in a bad way, but just in a... No, listen, I just, again, I sort of got sucked into that world, right, where everything

became politics. And, you know, I guess I'm just willing to say the stuff that I think a lot of people are actually thinking, but, you know, are afraid to articulate. And, you know, there's a social consequence to saying some of the stuff that I'll go out there and say. It doesn't mean that the vast majority of people probably don't agree with me. it's just, you know, when they try to cancel me these days, it actually makes me bigger. Does that make sense? You know, like I got a bigger platform because it means you're actually doing something right.

You're pissing them off. And so when that happens, it's sort of good for me. But I understand for like regular people, it's not that easy. I mean, there's a consequence at your job. If you work at a corporation, if you work at this, you know, that woke deck is so stacked, you know, that for me, I just sort of by dumb luck, just like found sort of a niche. I was like, I'll say this shit. You know, I promise you, it was a lot easier to be a real estate development. from New York City and, you know, be loved and, you know, as a young guy, you know, be invited to all the cool parties and all the cool clubs and do all that shit. And then, uh, but there comes a time where you sort of hit that, you know, I guess that threshold where it's like, okay,

enough. Like, we can't allow this shit to keep going. What was that time? You know, I honestly, I think I saw it, you know, I was probably naive to it, even early, you know, in 15, 16 when he started running. I mean, I started, I believed in all this stuff and I was always, you know, that way. But I guess for me, it was probably the Russia, Russia, Russia, now, it's because I'm like, wait a minute, what? Like, I committed treason. You know, they have me doing 50 hours of testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee, the House for treason, like a crime punishable by death. You know, and it's not like some clown, like the head of the Senate Intel or the House Intelligence Committee is out there on TV saying it every day. And I was like, wait a minute, dude,

like I've been in the room. I know exactly what happened. There's not even, there's not even like a pretense of like truth. There's not even like a little bit there. And it didn't matter. And that's when I saw it. And even then, you know, with the stuff they did to other people along the way, I was like, well, you know, the FBI said this, therefore there has to be something to it. No, there doesn't. It's all fucking bullshit. You know what I mean? There doesn't have to be any of it.

And so I think they actually probably pushed me further into that, like, you know, for better or worse, I guess I got a little bit of the Trump gene in terms of like, okay, you put me in a corner. I'm going to fight. Yeah. And I did. Do you have a team of people, when you fire a tweet, do you have a team of people that approve it or do you just go with your best? You know, the thing with social, you know, probably like a, like, authenticity is 100% of the game, right? All right, thank you. Gabe getting his camera time.

He gets close when he does that. I appreciate that. Good stuff, Gabe. Want to sit down for a little bit? He does. He loves that. He'll be there for an hour. You know, listen, it's 2023.

It's okay that it's a, you know. You'd have to remove your leg after that, but, yeah. But, yeah, so authenticity is everything with that shit. So, you know, and honestly, people are like, do you do your own social? I say, do you think I can pay someone to post the shit that I post half? like they'd be sitting there like on pins and needles worried about their job if and when the inevitable cancellation comes so now you you got to do that yourself and uh when you do it yourself and you're willing to kind of you know tow that line works out pretty well how about the

instagram no help with that no do you like a lot of people yeah i'm not sitting there because your page is dope on i'm following it but dude it's funny like every that's like the comment i hear the most they're like you have the greatest instagram page ever and yet like i have zero like zero growth. You know, they're just crushing me. Like the people who have been following me forever, they can see me and no one else. Uh, you know, it's sort of crazy what's going on. But no, listen, I'm not sitting there drawing up memes. I actually have a day job and stuff as well. But, you know, I'll see the stuff. And at this point, uh, you know, I've got a big enough platform. I want to help other people that are saying the same stuff. So I tried it when I,

when I can, I try to tag other people and give credit where it's due. And so people just send me the stuff. And I'm just like, oh, that's not bad or that's hot. And that's going to go big. And, you know, It's pretty amazing to watch. Typical liberal. I like his page too. Oh, great stuff. All those guys. Like there's a lot of guys doing really cool stuff.

I mean, the sort of creative genius, you know, if they could channel it into something perhaps more productive, they'd be putting people on the moon again. But it's pretty fun to be just a part of it. That's awesome.

Well, there's so much going on right now. Like, we just thought, you know, we did you before and it's like, I just love to get your take on some of it. Like, the world's just a crazy place right now, man.

It is, man. Like, honestly, I think I said it yesterday on, or maybe I might have said it yesterday just on my podcast on Rumble and it was just like I feel like I'm waiting for someone to be like hey man we're just fucking with you

like you're the star of the Truman show you know what I mean and you don't know it like there's cameras following me everywhere and someone's watching my life and it's just I'm the only person that's not in on the joke because it's gotten so nuts dude like you know things that like literally two three four five years ago

we would have been like come on they're like real today like it's it's not a parody anymore it's not a joke what what do you what do you think like i mean without saying specifics about what these things are because obviously there's a lot of stuff we're going to continue to talk about but why do you think it keeps going in that direction where like we're literally saying there's people going like this can't be serious like more and more of that i i think like what's the purpose for i well the you know we could go down the whole track of sort of the history of communism uh you know and all of that but i think they're just trying to break any sort of societal norms.

You know, you see the attack on the family. You see, you see the community family. Yeah, just like that stuff, you know, that's a sign of white oppression. And like, what, you mean, a family? Like, really? Like, is there a metric? Is there a statistic out there that shows that, you know, family structure is bad for the development of adolescence?

And the answer is no. In fact, the opposite. Of course it's the opposite. Like, and like, that's the thing. like the most logical and common sense stuff to date, like, is just not considered common sense. I saw it. Why, though? Why do you think that is? I think they're trying to break down those things. I think it's a takeover of our youth. I think, you know, literally, I do think it's, you know, sort of the indoctrination, pushed towards communism. I think you see that with, you see it,

honestly, like, look at, we're sitting here, you know, the day after a terrible tragedy in, you know, Nashville, Tennessee, you know, trans shooter shoots up, you know, a school of, you know Christian kids and it's it's the gun it's like you mean it's not like the indoctrination of all the bullshit that we're force feeding you know children it's okay for a three-year-old to chop their dick off that's totally normal you can't buy a pack of cigarettes for another 15 years but like go ahead and do that what could go wrong uh you know all the gender affirmation bullshit like you know I think it's just a literal attack on everything that we hold near and dear everything that would be a historical traditional normal American norm uh and they're

trying to break it down. I'm wondering when they're going to be like, you can't even do gender reveals when it's like you can't assume a baby's gender. Because everything's racist, right? Everything that today, it's like, that's the religion, right? It's racism or it's climate change. Literally, like, every problem in the world is one of those two things according to the radical left these days. And like, you know, the problem is for what? For what? You know, I don't know because it doesn't make any sense to me, but you see the constant attempt at breaking down these systems, right? I don't know what's the purpose of having to show graphic, you know, sexual details to children in elementary school, like you see, right? The, you know, bordering stuff that like pornographic material in text, it must be in a child.

Like, why? You have to destroy innocence at that, like, you can't let them figure it out whatever. And again, I don't give a shit, dude. If you're an adult and you want to be trans and you do it, great. If you're happy, you're productive. I actually don't give a shit. I'm fairly liberal on the issue. You force it on a three-year-old.

You get parents and try to say, a parent shouldn't decide what your rainbow-haired freak show teacher should be able to convince a three-year-old that they're doing this and permanently mutilate their body. That's fucking bullshit. We've got to call it out.

Yeah, I think it because it's like it's just the impression, like a child in the process of which they're learning. Like you're just, if you're shown something and you're already questioning everything else in your life because you're learning everything, then you're like, well, maybe this is. I mean, you don't know better, right?

How many things did you believe as a kid? Like, I thought I was, you know, I could fly as a kid. Right. Like, my parents didn't let me jump off a building, you know what I mean? But like, you have, like, that's part of being a kid. You have an imagination. You have a creative process. But you see sort of the way that's all manipulated, only one way, only this.

You can only believe that. And, you know, they're pushing it on people younger and younger. And then, you know, again, I don't understand what the end result, because I'm a logical, rational human being. Well, it seems like if you break down, you know, you break down family unit, you break community, you break down people's ability to get together and be, be powerful. It's like you're able to control people more easily. That's what it seems like. Of course. It is control, right? You know, you see that. You see it within the hypocrisy of all the elites that want to push

climate change while traveling on a G650. It's like, oh, that's fucking wonderful. Like, your carbon footprint yesterday was more than the average American in their lifespan. And yet, no, it's okay because we're doing good. Yeah. Give me a break. So when you say the elite, think that's our government or is it like a foreign government like it's a combination i mean i think it's you know i i think you know you definitely see the push tour of this globalism and this you know sort of one world uh decision making process but again not necessarily even controlled by a government per se but but you know a very wealthy group of hypocrites that you know push this stuff on it but don't seem to live by the actions uh that they would espouse everyone else live by uh

and you know you've been seeing that for a long time and i think that's why you see sort of the attack on America and so many of the things that we hold here because maybe we're that last bastion sort of a freedom, right? We saw that, you know, prior to the pandemic, you'd have been like, okay, you know, the U.S. pretty good. Canada's pretty good. England's going to be, you know, pretty solid. Australia, New Zealand. Like, these are bastions of freedom and democracy. And it's like, really? I guess after COVID, that just completely changed. You saw it. And by the way, even here, completely. Right? Like the people that, so many of the people that you were like, you'd believe, actually believed that stuff

were like, okay, I'll be a sheep. Okay, there's no way that the virus started in the lab that studies the fucking exact virus in question because the media told me it came from a bat four feet outside of that lab. Like, what, like man, like really?

Like, we've been so brainwashed. Like, the most plausible solution was always that, but if you did that and you said that, even if it was obvious and you were a doctor, you're fucking canceled. Right? If you were a medical profession, you lost tenure. You'd lose your job. If you were a reporter reporting on this stuff, you were off the air. Like, when was it ever not like, obviously? That's what I'm trying to figure out is like, how did this start? Like, how did it get this whole shift to this side of like, everyone's afraid of either saying this or they're self-censoring that? Like, even in these conversations I find myself here where like there's things that I would really love to say and I kind of like, I'm like, oh. I think they've made it very clear that like if you speak. speak out like without what happened to like your father and stuff like that like even the president of the united states they canceled the most powerful man in the world they prove that like

if you speak out you're getting fucked like even look what happened to steve our boy too like yeah you really can't you can't you can't win he kind of started the track he didn't do anything yeah like you know you got you saw people forget now they're getting canceled because you saw the stuff with like Airbnb like people were getting their reservation canceled because they were related to someone who said something that wasn't in line with that right you saw the pay PayPal push. Hey, if you're spreading misinformation, we're just going to dock your bank account $2,500 per instance. I'm like, but are you guys the arbiter or truth? Or like, is there some sort of neutral party? Because the fact checkers that I've said, like, I don't know that they've

gotten anything right yet. Now, it doesn't stop you from fucking your account right now when they fact check you. Six months later, they're proven wrong, but it doesn't matter because, you know, the damage has already been done. They've gotten what they've wanted. You know, we do a great job like, oh, we're dunking on them on social. We told you so. It was so obvious. But guess what? They still won. They got everything that they wanted to do. They weaponized all of those things. So even if they're caught later on, it doesn't really matter.

The scary part about this overall, besides obviously the details and it is like the free speech of just like, I know certain things. I feel a certain way. And even that, I still feel a little uncomfortable. Like I self-censor myself to have certain conversations because I know of the outcomes, right? The idea of that itself is the most scary thing because think of that concept if you're listening to this no matter what you believe whether it's this side that side up down I don't give a fuck if you get to a point we get to a point where people just go

oh we can't talk about that that's a scary society yeah and it's even scarier now if we talk about all this AI shit all this other shit that's coming on that's just starting to create like what's actually fucking real oh yeah well listen two things there though the educated elites that told you everything over the last few years

like their their record you know their batting average on what's right in the end is like zero But, you know, your uneducated conspiracy theorist, just using basic logic and nonsense, has been 100% right. And so, to your point about self-censoring, I see it myself, right? I will sit there, I'll do some video for social or whatever it is. I'm like, huh, it's so clear to me what I'm saying. And yet I'm like, you know what, there's a 0.000% chance that it could, so I got to redo it again.

Now, anyone looking at Akman's razor, right, like the most logical answer is probably the answer. Like anyone looking at it knows exactly what, but that's the point. The people who are looking at it, who will make a big deal of it, who have the power to cancel you, they'll tell you that the 0.000% chance thing is 100% what you meant, not what literally any reasonable or decent human being would be like, of course, that's what he meant. And so you sit there and like, oh, man, I got to redo that. Like, even I have to think about this stuff because, you know. But not even just that.

I'm talking about literally not speaking about certain things because people are just like, they're self-censoring because you're just afraid because you know that that's what's going to happen. what's happening to the average parent. Like, you think, you think the average, let's even, if we're talking politics, do you think the average Democrat thinks that a three-year-old should be making permanent decisions about? Probably not. I don't think so. I don't, I don't believe that. Like, but, you know, guess what? You know, mainstream media, big tech, we're not in like an equal fight, right? There's, the sides, you've seen what they've tried to do to you. I mean, big tech, that's a trillion dollar enterprise functioning as the marketing department for like

a radical side of one side of an equation, right? Like, uh, Mainstream media. Same way. I mean, there's these sort of big blocks of huge juggernaut type industries that are literally functioning against you. So it's making, notice, no one on the other side, if you push that extreme stuff, what would be extreme, you know, the three-year-old example, there's no cancellation if you say that on the other side. There's no, like, there's no consequence. Book Club on Monday. Jim on Tuesday. Date night on Wednesday. Out on the town on Thursday.

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Did you see this study? It was like two weeks ago. I saw that, you know, right prior to the panes. it was like something like close to like 50% of females identified as bisexual. And yet during the pandemic like zero percent of those people actually acted on that. And it was because we've created this thing where it's like, well, it's more socially like it's cooler to be that than what they actually probably were, which is just straight, boring women and that's it. You know what I mean? Yeah. The stuff is just so manufactured. It should be so obvious to so many

people but there again there's a consequence to speaking out about it but how does so to the other point like how do you think it got there like why well i think i think it's been going on for a long time right i don't think this is a new phenomenon i don't think it's a phenomenon of like the don't rump era uh you know of american politics i think it was going on long before that but like i think trump brought out the insanity of the other side right the overcorrection that pendulum swinging so far that that it sort of it just exposed so much more of what's been going on like i don't media too change social media 100% but also the controls within okay like you know you see sort of the people use the example of like tick talk in america versus tick to china like it's a sci-op like in

china the videos that go viral are like a kid doing a physics project and like doing something like with his brain in ours it's like you know how fucking stupid can you get and you're going to be a rock star you know what i mean like that's well that's why some of us are saying hey listen we're talking about my IG page. It's like, you know, I'm guilty of it myself, but like, dude, there's a difference. Like, if we're pretending this isn't a sciop to like destroy our country, whether it's just, that's crazy, dumbing down, you know, our society, encouraging sort of just the stuff that would, would break up families or this, you know, between that, fentanyl. I mean, it just adds up. It's like, how do you survive that? That's just such like a high level, like, operation to me.

That's what's, like, so fascinating. It's just like, so obvious. I know. It's just crazy. You like accept. Yeah. Like they're literally destroying us from within, encouraging the dumbest behavior, you know, pushing this stuff that's destroying that family structure, all the things that would historically have statistically said, hey, you're more likely to succeed because of this. It's like, no, fuck all of that. Let's do exactly the opposite. Yeah. So what, go ahead. I want to ask, you said that sad about the bisexual stuff before COVID. He's really interested in this part. No, I just, how do you think that's affecting politics now? Because I feel like there's so much focus on this person needs to be elected because they're bisexual or...

Well, yeah, no, listen. But is that taken away from like... The identity politics thing is becoming a huge thing. And again, it's like... Do you think that distracts from like what their beliefs are? Because now they're like focusing on... I think it's just... Again, there's...

You get social points for sort of saying... Like, a certain thing. Like, listen, you saw during the beginning of like BLM and like every, you know, suburban mothers posting these things. And it turns out to be a multi-billion dollar scam, you know, but like they got the credit for posting their black square. It's like, I don't know. man, like, give me it, like, the people that were marching these things and wearing the sweatshirt and stuff like that. Like, how many of them are really, like, really activists? Like, yeah. Come on. Like, it's, it's bullshit, but they got to check off that box. And again, if you, if you didn't do it, there was a lot of pressure. Yeah. On you to sort of conform. Like, you know, I saw some of the, you know, people I know, like some of the most basic in a bad way. Like, like, oh, really? Like, this version's now, it's social activist. It's like, give me a break. This person's borderline idiot. Like, they don't believe.

any of these things, you know, the most privileged people in the world. I understand. I'm saying this coming from where I'm coming from. And they make me look unprivileged. And it's like, they don't actually believe it because I know that. Yeah. But it's like, well, I got to do it because. And so it, you know, there's a lot of pressure to do those things. And again, one way. Okay. So I have a question. Is there any way do you think to ultimately make any of this right or like fair? Because the thing is like whether you're this side, that side, whatever, I feel like everyone is self-interested in, like, they're all in self-interest. Well, but listen, I think you got to, to the point of self-interest, like, you got to understand

where this is going and where this leaves you in a few years, right? Like, where's the end game of all of this? Like, if you sit back and sort of, well, I'm self-interested now, like, I don't know that there's much of a future for us. So I think the way to end it is enough people have to have the guts to sort of step up and do it, right? They can cancel one guy, most powerful guy in the world, president of the United States. you know, you get 175 million Americans, the other half,

plus maybe some moderates who are like, okay, this has gone too far. Again, you can be, you know, like me. Like, yeah, I have trans friends. I don't care what they do as an adult. You push it on children. I got a serious problem with it. For sure.

You know what I mean? Like that's an issue. If you have, you know, whether it's, I guess, Aurora, Colorado, they, you know, four trans shootings, you know, where's the FBI saying, well, maybe there's a domestic terror threat to hear it? the same people they called concerned mothers who went to like their PTA meetings asking about

the indoctrination going on in our public school systems. They were labeled domestic terrorists by our FBI and DOJ, not like some lunatic on Twitter, but like by the highest levels of law enforcement in our country. But like you're telling me that four mass shootings in recent time by a group that makes up, according to the CDC, less than 0.6 percent, 0.6 percent of the adult population. So you add in children, and it's probably like 0.2%, 0.3% of our population, you're saying that's not statistically significant for major instance in the recent time, you know, identify as trans, non-binary, whatever it may be. We don't think that's a problem. Like, I don't hear any talk other than from a couple people who perhaps like me who are like, hey, wait a minute, like this guy, the shooter the other day, like in their manner. You come after our kids, we're going to kill your kids. That's not domestic terrorism. No, no, no. Well, they're protected. It's different. Like, we just. just need enough people to have the balls to actually step out and start saying this stuff. And once they do that, then the other's like, oh, wait a minute. You know, it's a little harder. Aren't they putting a stop to like that in like London and stuff like that? Wasn't there something

that went on there? I'm not sure. I know over there. I mean, hell, I mean, there's people going to jail for just being like, you know, misgendering people. Like, you know, I mean, that's a, you know, I know, that's a high crime and, you know, should be punishable by death and all. But like, you know, calling a biological go mail a dude like I'm sorry like uh you know but again like five years ago could you even imagine having this conversation no you know what's funny this is kind of random but on tictock a clip because i want to ask you about this too your dad uh your father talked about how if he started a woman's basketball team he would just go get lebron james and it's all over ticot right now no but i love that but brad that bodybuilder that you were talking about that just had the two-year

lawsuit because a guy transitioned into a woman and was competing in powerlifting yeah no that was the australia that's the most absurd It is the worst one. How can anyone possibly like agree with that? I don't get it. The home of Leah Thomas. Yeah. Right?

The swimmer that was a dude and like was a journeyman sort of average very not even average like male swimmer that goes on to win the female national championship. Like that dude went to my alma mater. Like if I was there, I graduated in 2000. Like if I was there at the time, my friends and I would have showed up with a keg, gone to like the swim meets and had like the greatest time in the world. Today we'd be thrown out of school for even questioning like the insanity of So what I want to know, like, where are the soccer moms? Right? Like, you know, I'm a dad of a daughter who's a really good athlete. Like, you know, captain of her team as a freshman, yada, yada, yada, sponsored by, like, she plays golf. And it's like, you know, you put her against 15 year old dudes that are a foot taller and stronger. It's like, it's insane. And yet I see the dedication that she puts into, like, getting better and being the best that she can be. Like, every day. She comes home. She goes and works out. Then she goes and plays.

golf and he cares where you know doing like a stretching routine like she's a machine like and yet you know we'll go you know watch like the men pros play and it's like yeah it's like where are the soccer moms man like i've gone to these things like i've done like the triple header of like t-ball i have five kids so i got a lot you know it's it can be painful right i know you're not allowed to say that it's but you know but like you do it because it's the right thing to do and you're a parent right but it's not always the most fun thing in the world yeah you you do it But, like, you don't think there's going to be people going to get gaming this system. They're not going to arbitrage the shit out of this.

Be like, I want to go to Harvard. Trans. I want to be an admiral. You know what I mean? Trans. Like, two weeks later, you can go be any of these things. It's just gone too far. I feel like most people I talk to now, though, in person, like, everyone kind of agrees with that.

Well, I agree with that. I've never personally met anyone that, like, oh. But, and yet, the push is so against that, right? That's what it's sort of, what's interesting, right? Yeah. I agree with you that. a lot of normal people are totally either indifferent or just... Even like women, like women I talk to, they're like, they think it's stupid.

I see it with like my kids, like their friends. Like, you know, they roll their eyes. Oh, there's a furry in our class. Like they realize it's all bullshit. And yet the tiny, tiny faction of like lunatics out there has such control over the narrative. That's what's scary to me, right? Like the average person doesn't believe this stuff. I don't think.

And yet they still have that power. If you're over 18 and you want to do what you want, sure, do what you want. But the forcing it on kids and then, like, males participating in female sports is like, that's just like so fucked up. The power of the one's crazy because it's just like. Well, but why isn't the bicycling one crazy? Why isn't the swimming one crazy? No, they don't totally go one way. Well, this is the thing.

This is what I was going to say. What's the end game? Like, my dad's thing about, he's right, he's going, I'd be the greatest coach in the history of women's basketball. I'd get LeBron did, you know, doesn't agree with this politics. It's fine. How about the jail situation, too? Oh, well, yeah. The male's going to like,

yeah, that's a pretty smart way. That's like the crazy move ever. I might try to pull that. He might be on that one. If I ever get locked up again. They're just going around impregnating all the female prisoners.

Like, what that's actually a power move? Hey, if they got me for treason, I'd probably be like, I'd consider it. You're like, probably, probably a lot more fun. It's fun.

But like, but it's happening. And if, like, if we're going to pretend that people aren't going to game that to advance them, you know, I'm going to get a full scholarship, because I'm now the greatest female track star. Like, and again, what I don't understand is the silence from biological women, from mothers who've spent countless hours bringing their daughters to sports only to watch their scholarship get ripped

out from underneath them. Like, where are you people? Like, I know you don't believe it. What's virtue signaling? You think, but do you think that's a, of course, but that's what I'm saying. So what you said? It's virtue signaling. Like, I'm going to be like, I don't want to speak on this because like, I don't want to look like I'm against that. You think they're like a trans kid is. like your watch in Hollywood. It's like, ooh, it's the latest accessory. It's the coolest. You know what I mean?

Like, because it's actually more powerful for them. They get more social clout by doing this and perhaps even destroying their own children. Like, you think any of these people are like, did they really ever believe this stuff? Like, come on. That's a good point too. I want to talk about, we were talking about TikTok and China.

I've been like really fascinated with just like what's going on right now with like this whole World War III shit. That shit's like, how close are we to World War II for real? Well, listen, like the administration, like the Biden administration currently said it's the closest we've been. Do you talk to your father about? Oh, yeah. Well, listen, he's the only guy out there.

Like, he was the guy that he's going to start World War III. Notice like nothing happened under Trump? Like, and by the way, you notice how he's the only guy actually, currently being like, hey, we got to end this shit. Like this has got to stop. Like our half of even the Republicans are all in. Let's go to war with Russia. They have 6,000 nuclear missiles.

What could go wrong? like everything what could go wrong folks who cares everything like it's insane so the guy that was going to start world war three according to everyone in the left is literally the only guy a that nothing happened to under his administration but is the only guy now being like how insane this is for by the way the ukraine which is by many instances rated a more corrupt country than russia like we're pretending this is like this angelic you know bastion of democracy like that's bullshit and again i'm not saying that Putin's right either because they're you say that, then you're a Russia apologist. It's like, no, I think I can call out bullshit

along all sides. I just don't know why America, with the problems that we face, with the shit that's looming over our heads, we're going to spend $130 billion. And that's just the beginning, right? There's no end in sight. What's the interest there then? Listen, there's a lot of people. There's a lot of people making a lot of money. In what way there? Well, you know, like the military industrial complex is selling missiles to a regime that's using them. And, you know, we haven't been in a war of our own in like six months. So let's get in a proxy war with Russia. But we had COVID.

That was dope for money. What's that? We had COVID. That was really good. I guess that's two different businesses, right? That's pharmaceutical. Big war watched Big Pharma get rich for like two and a half years. They got jealous.

Our turn. Our turn. You know, we haven't been in Afghanistan in like a year. Like, guys, we got to, you know, we got to turn the big pharma guys were taking all the hot chicks from the military. Yeah. That was like, you know, we got to end that one real quickly. And. But it's what it is.

You know, do you see? So it's funny, I was having this conversation with someone the other day and I was like, dude, like, even when you see like the woke generals now, you know, doing their, I'm like, what the hell's going on? It's like, well, no, there used to be sort of this outlet. When they retired from the military, they'd go work at big war somewhere and get paid a lot of money and do all that stuff. But like there is a general sort of other than the insanity of Ukraine right now. Like no one wants to be in these endless wars anymore on both sides. It's almost like a bipartisan issue other than Ukraine, which is taken over the religion of climate change. all of that, but there's not that desire. So now the outlet is getting on these public company boards. All these public companies are woke. And so you could be like the general, but like he's with us and woke. That's why they're saying all this crap and pushing it in the military. I mean, Rob O'Neill had a lot to say about that.

They tried canceling me a couple months ago. I said like, hey man, I spoke to somebody who's in the teams and they're like, they spend more time doing diversity training than like shooting, like in the SEAL teams. And like, I said it. I put it out and I woke up and they're like, oh, shit, Don, you're trending on. Twitter. Like, everyone's saying this is bullshit. I'm like, it's not, they're like, dog, he doesn't know any of these people. He doesn't, he, there's no way this happened. There's no way this conversation is happening. He's 100% right. Like, that shit is happening. It's happening even at

the highest levels. Like, I want my seals to be able to, like, kill bad guys. Like, I don't care if they're blue, green, doesn't, that means nothing to me. Like, let them do that job. Like, the diversity training has nothing to do with their mission. And yet, if you listen to, like, sort of the woke people in charge, it's everything. It's going to make us a stronger fighting force. They can't articulate how, but it is, and that's the gospel, and you must believe it. And if you don't, you know, you're an isst and a terrible human being. So how close do you think we are to World War III? Oh, like I said, they were the closest we've been since the 60s.

Yeah. Right? And the Cuban, no, that's from the Biden administration. They said that we're the closest we've been to nuclear, you know, war fallout since the Cuban missile crisis, which was pretty close. Yeah. And if they're saying that. Yeah. Imagine what it really is, right?

If they're like out there like, okay, well, listen. it's not ideal you know that's them whitewashing a disaster and it's still like saying that out loud like and I think the whole China-Russia shit how they you know she just visited Russia that was like

that was scary shit she visited Russia they're forming an alliance they're getting Saudi in there where they're going to work on like getting rid of the U.S. dollar as sort of like the petro dollar right so that means we spend more with 32 trillion dollars that we have anymore to allow us to live

way beyond our means as Americans anymore. That's happening. And like the White House is having, you know, the cast of Ted Lassow in to talk about, like, we're not serious people anymore, guys. So oil can only be purchased in the U.S. dollar in the world right now, right?

Yeah, that's basically, it's like the reserve currency of that, right? So everything's traded in dollars. And because of that, it basically, I mean, I'm not the best, you know, sort of... Yeah, it was essentially turned the gold standard into like an oil standard, right? Like, where there was backup by oil.

But you get rid of that. people start calling our debts, we can't spend this freely because we can't borrow like we do. I mean, if you manage your household, like we manage our country, you'd be bankrupt.

They can keep going back to the troth. You lose that ability because of that. It's a serious. The dollar just collapses? It's a total collapse of probably our society, right? And then what? Think of how much more we spend than what we earn.

Like, eventually you've got to pay the piper and what we're doing is we're leaving our children and our grandchildren with insurmountable debt. Does that turn the U.S. into like anarchy if that shit happens? You know, I, you know, I don't know exactly what it does, but it's not, it's not good. I think you, you basically lose, and maybe, maybe part of that is, you know, that idea of globalism, right? You lose the hegemony that America has had, like the sort of the power they've had over, you know, you'll lose all of those little extra things that we've had that the rest of the world hasn't benefited it.

And that's a problem. Do you know the significance of what happened with, like, the Saudi and Iran deal? Did you explain that to us? Well, you know, if the Saudis are now, you know, and China is negotiating, you know, peace deals between warring factions on the world, what does that do to America's place as sort of the leader of the free world?

Like China's doing this and, again, we're worried about, you know, Joe Biden's having press conferences about ice cream. Like, that's real? Is that real? He did it yesterday. That was like how he opened his thing. But is that a real clip?

He thought that was AI. Yeah, that was fake. I don't think that's AI. that's not AI that's the problem like we watched it on the way oh so this is a big thing this AI shit is like

at some point the deep fake thing is real and like but like that's not real because I would have seen the fact checks on it and I saw like a lot of prominent

sort of right wing people calling that shit out and like it's still up so it's probably not a deep fake but like you know we have a president

that can't understand sort of the gravity of a situation where six people and three kids were just murdered by a fucking lunatic and like you know that's you know why is it not being blasted more listen if it was a

republican what do you think would happen it'd be blasted yeah of course because everyone's sort of like it's okay we're just going to you know again everyone the vast majority of the people reporting on it the vast majority of people talking about it the vast majority of the outlets where this stuff could be seen they're sort of with the other side and they're going to do whatever they can to protect it And that's why, you know, perhaps only some of this stuff is now coming out in sort of, again, the age of Trump, because the overreaction to it is so extreme that reasonable people watching are like, wait a minute. I don't know, you know, there's got to be something to it. Do you think there could ever be like a true, like, news outlet that is just not biased? Because all sides seem to have just their biases.

Like, you know, people, they've done this thing like, you know, if you don't like it, build your own. So people have gone out and done it. Like, I did that, you know, just with a news. I created a news app, right, with some friends called MXM News. And it just takes, it aggregates news from all over the place. Like, we'll put the New York Times up and we'll put Breitbart next to it. Read both. Figure it out for yourself.

Like, two weeks ago, like, my partner in the deal calls me. It's like, hey, dude, our bank account's at zero. I think someone hacked us. It's like, what do you mean? There's like three quarters of a million dollars. Like in our operating account of this business that takes all sides, allows you to see both sides, like in an app form. And it's like, so he calls the bank. It's like, oh, oh, yeah, you know, checks in the mail. A major bank, a PNC bank. Like, oh, the checks in the mail. Yeah,

we don't, we don't want to do business with you. We just closed out your account. They didn't even fucking call. Like, they broke up by text. You don't know what I mean? Like, they sent you a check in the mail of what was in your account. Didn't tell you why. It's like, and that wasn't even like, we're not even making news. We're just allowing people to see both sides. You're just aggregating. And that was enough to be like, no, no, no, you can't possibly see both sides. of the story, you must listen to, you know, the talking points, and that's all you're allowed to actually see the thing. Like I said earlier, it's the scariest thing is like, at what point does the shit just implode then? Because it's like, whether it's this side or that side,

it's like wherever it lands, because at some point the pendulum always swings, it's like, people should be very afraid of the fact that you just, they don't want you to believe or to see certain things because maybe they're not on the same page. It's like, what if that swings that way? And then it swings this way. I mean, I guess they should fear that, you know, because, yeah, you would never want, if you're on the other, you'd never want that same stuff happening to you. Exactly. But I think the way they look at it is they control so much more of the power of the ability to do that that they'll take their chances. But what if all? They're more, they're okay with the idea of suppressing you because they know it's not likely to really ever

reverse. And that's why I just so important for people to actually sort of step out of that shell to to start getting more comfortable. And again, you can do these things respectfully, right? Like, there's a way to have these conversations. There's a way to have the dialogue. There's guys like me that are going to go a little bit further because I have to, right? But then you can take my points and sort of mute it down and still talk about the facts that are underlying. Yeah. You know, you can talk about the truth.

Why do you feel like you have to? Dude, because I, like, I have five kids. I want to leave them a country that they could recognize. Like, you know, again, it would be a lot easier for me to shut the fuck up. Be a real estate developer from New York City. It would have been a hell of a lot easier for my father. They've been trying to throw him in jail for six years now, seven years. They still trying to do it every day, right?

Like, on nonsense. And like, they're going to get them this time, though, folks. You know, but I guess, I don't know. Can I get pushed hard enough? Yeah. You just, it's a fight or flight, right? I guess I fight. Yeah, I get it.

Could I challenge you a little bit on that? Sure. Do you think that part of you does it? Because, like, it also does make you more popular and more polarizing in that sense of, like. No, because, like, listen, I, you know. I'm not saying you're right or wrong. I lived in New York City my whole life. Like, I moved here because I had to.

You know what I mean? Like I had to get out. Like where, you know, I've, like I told you, I've done 50 hours of testimony before various congressional and Senate committees for treason. Like, you know, that's not fun. You know what I mean? Like when they're trying to, you know, go after your business and, you know, probably hundreds of millions in legal fees to fight back. Like, that's not fun. Yeah, I get it.

Like, I do it. because, you know, I got in that game. I believe it. And now I see sort of what we're up against. But, like, the reality is, like, I didn't do it because it was like, hey, this is going like, like, I could care less about being popular. Like, you know, I sort of, I was never, I never tried to be in the limelight, you know, prior to that. Like, basically I got in the limelight when my father started doing the apprentice because

they were like, hey, can you do this? I was like, okay, sure. But like, there's nothing of me before that because I didn't really want to do it. But once you're sort of pushed into it, then you do it. And then I think perhaps the bigger part, like, I sort of have a long history of sort of my politics and, you know, why I am the way I am, right? My mom, who passed away last summer, like, she escaped communist Czech Slovakia, right? She did that. She was a good athlete. Like, she was an Olympic skier, you know, during one of the Olympics, like, left the country and, like, didn't go back. You know, I remember seeing the picture as a kid of my parents wedding. And I was like, well, why is my grandfather there, but my grandmother isn't?

And it was because they wouldn't let both of them out of the country to go to their daughter's wedding because they knew they were never coming back. So my grandfather, you know, brought me over there as a young kid. I spoke check fluently. They're a big part of raising me. And he brought me over there. So I understood just how sort of awesome we have it over here, just how precious like everything. I've waited in the breadlines. I've seen what those systems do to people. And so, you know, that started some of my political leanings. And I've seen what those things do. That's why I'm sort of of like, no, no, no, can't happen here. It's like, actually down here in Florida is a great example.

Like, all the people from Venezuela, all the people from Cuba, like, they're all, like, super conservative because they've seen what these systems, like, they're like, this is not our first rodeo. We've seen this crap before. It's not as nice as the academics want you to believe. In fact, it's the exact opposite. You know, I then, uh, you know, I went to boarding school in central Pennsylvania, a little town called Pottstown.

It was the home was like Firestone tires. And it's like this sort of, you know, it was like, in an elite boarding school, I get it. But like, in the middle of this town that was like, you know, but like, in the middle of this town that was like Rust Belt America where just the rest of it was falling apart. And you saw sort of the decline of sort of, you know, American manufacturing and all the things that made, you know, so much of what the country was about. And so that's sort of pushing me a little bit more into it. And, you know, and then once they went after us, I was like, hey, I'm all in. But like, I do because I actually believe this shit. Like, I'm doing it because, you know, if I've been blessed

and I get it, like I have been, you know, way more than blessed. Like, you know, but if I have that platform and I can use it to fight back, I'm going to do that. And that's it. Yeah. No, I got respect it for sure. What's going on right now with the former president's, like, arrest and the indictment and stuff like that? I mean, I don't, I legitimately don't even know. But, I mean, you know, it's like, you sort of get desensitized to it in a certain way. Like, I'm pissed off about it, but I'm like, oh, they're going to arrest me. Oh, you mean it's Tuesday?

Like, here we go again, right? I mean, how many times, you know, and then it's like, this is like the most ridiculous of all of them. And yet, you know, you still got to deal with it. I mean, I guess they could try. Is he actually going to get arrested? I don't know. That was the rumor. But then they also hear the people from, you know, again, we lived in New York our whole lives, right?

You hear people that do have sort of inside scoops. And they're like, dude, the DA's office there, it's like, holy, like, even like radical leftists within are like telling their friends who we know, like, holy shit. Like, I can't believe this is going on in America right now. Like, and it's so obvious, right? Like, it's so flagrant. Like, this is the dumbest thing in the world. And yet they're going to, they're going to keep going. But, you know, hey, this issue is so important.

But, like, Lejean Maxwell, Jeffrey Epstein's person, like, she went to jail for 25 years for apparently trafficking children to nobody because we won't see those lists and there's no consequence. It's like, really? So you're going after Trump, but like, but this stuff's not an issue. You put someone to jail for 25 years for apparently doing nothing because no one else, no one else per took. I don't understand.

Because they're not speaking about the names. Yeah. Yeah. Like, and by the way, we're like, well, Trump knew. him. I'm like, you know how Trump's not involved? Because if his name was on that list, it would have leaked already. For sure. Like, they didn't written, like, the redacted

list and there'd be one name. Like, just, you know, unredacted. Holy shit. But, yeah, dude, crazy times. I saw, what did you think about how DeSantis, I mean, this is a big topic, too, how, like, I guess DeSantis first, the former president, like, what did you think about what he said? Dude, I thought, like, again, I saw the flip-flop on Ukraine where it was like he tried sort of taking the Trump approach, like, maybe he wore bad and then like the donors. Dude, there's a difference. So what did he say he was against it first? He was against it.

He sort of took like a weak Trump stance on it, you know? And then he was like, well, we must stop it. Putin is an evil dictator. You know, it's like, holy shit, your donors got to you. Like, and that's the difference. Like, you know, that's what's good about Trump. And perhaps that's what's good about even if Trump, you know, in 24, Trump is like a lame duck can just go in and break all that shit up.

You don't, you're not trying to get reelected again. You can just do everything that you need to do. And that's the difference sort of being beholden to your donors, being beholden. being beholden to the establishment class you know the Paul Ryan's like this is great like he literally was like well I'm not so worried about that's not a big concern you mean the weaponization of our government against its citizens

on stuff that literally every person who's looking at it objectively including many on the left hungry now now what about now whenever it hits you wherever you are grab an oh Henry bar to satisfy your hunger with its delicious combination of big crunchy salty peanuts covered in

creamy caramel and chewy fudge with a chocolatey coating swing by a gas station and get an oh henry today oh hungry oh henry law like they're like holy shit this is scary and bullshit it's not really a big issue you're talking about the case against trump i'm talking about the same you know the same lack of comments on it right right right like really like you mean like to me like to me as a conservative, as a Republican, as someone who's been in those crosshairs, like, that's probably one of, like, the biggest issues we face as a country. You see Matt Taibi, the guy who's the reporter who broke all the Twitter files about, you know, what happened during the election before. Like, yesterday he testified before the weaponization of Congress committee, Jim Jordan,

those guys. And like, the day he does that, the IRS goes and raids his home. Like, we think that's We still think that's a coincidence. Like, I don't believe in coincidence anymore. So if you can't call out, like, literally the weaponization of governmental institutions against your citizens, come on, guys. So DeSantis has, like, big donors, like, the former president's donors, was that all just raised by, like, individuals and stuff? Yeah, listen, you have big donors on all sides.

But we did a big, you know, we had probably the greatest small dollar donor campaign in the history of America, right? You know, blue collar Americans, you know, like $33 average kind of donation, you know, and you can see, you just look up the stats, right? The people donating the other side, you know, this guy's worth $9.12 billion. You know what? They want a president when they call, picks up the damn phone. When they say jump, they jump because you need, you need that check.

You need that lifeline, right? And so you see that. Like with the donor class, make no mistake, guys. Like the donor class, even in Republican, you know, sort of, they don't have the same. viewpoint as like the blue collar sort of, let's call Amago Republicans, right? They're going to be tough on China, but not if it cost me an extra cent in my widget. You know what I mean? These sorts of things. There's just a lot of, there's a lot of hypocrisy there. So they know, you know, Trump doesn't really need them. Trump doesn't sort of look the same way. And, you know, Desantis, who's a career politician,

like, guess what? He needs that money. And guess what? He needs that money again to further the goal and again. And so he's got to act when they say. When they say jump, he says how high. And that's the nature of politics. It's why they went after Trump so hard, in my opinion, because they don't want other people who don't need them in power. Of course. Right? They don't want that. They want to show an example. Like, this is what happens. Like, you have a good life. You're a fucking billionaire. You can do whatever the hell you want. Like, do you really want this shit? Because we're coming after you too. Well, that's a damn. So when you see that weaponization and you're not willing to call it out,

guess what? Like, they'll do it to him. If DeSantis ever becomes the guy or any other Republican ever becomes the guy, like, it's easy when you're trying to pit someone against Trump because they'll do whatever they can to help you so you can take out Trump. When you're the guy, that's a whole different world. That's a whole different story. And if that's the way you're going to handle it when they're doing it, you know, generally speaking, how are you going to do when you're in the big show? That's crazy. Because he obviously is doing a good job with Florida and the way he handled COVID I liked, but it is interesting now when I saw you say that, yeah, he just has a bunch of big donors and he might be sold to them.

Yeah, when Trump is so good, because, yeah. Dorsing, and, you know, Jeff Rowe comes and runs his super pack, and Carl Rove is the out there, like, really? Like, you want, you want another Bush administration? That's fine. Because we don't want to go back to that, you want the bushes, you can, you can have that. That's a great avenue for you. But, like, that's what it's been proven, you know, you can hire a bunch of influencers

to clip, you know what I mean? To clip you dunking on some local reporter and, like, make it go viral. Doesn't mean that's real. It's just, that's the nature of that game. How do you think these? elections are going to go because I feel like even the you know even the the left doesn't really want Biden well I mean but you look at him you know not yeah I guess the only problem is like you're sort of rooting for Biden because like the alternative Kamala Harris and that feels significantly

worse to me so what do you think it goes who you like you know I don't know I I legitimately don't think he's capable of running again but he didn't have to run last time right he hit in a basement they they call them out and they weaponize COVID to sort of mail and balloting and this and that And, you know, of course, what could go wrong? It's the safest and most secure election ever. Well, why? Well, we don't know, but we said it, therefore, it's true. Yeah, but do you think Trump actually has a chance again?

Or do you think they made him, like, look at, like, bad enough of a guy that he wanted? Well, again, I think he clearly has a chance because I think people have woken up, right? Had they been, like, mild on the issue? Had they told you the truth about anything? Had they not, like, sort of perpetually lost their minds, like the mass hysteria every time anyone's, said anything like yeah it'd be harder i think looking looking at what the average person has now seen like i think he's got a better chance because i think they're like hey he's the he's the one guy that will actually try to break up those systems yeah i saw that um ivanka and the kushner's

aren't going to be involved in the campaign why is that dude the campaign is is brutal stuff right you know just because they played a significant role previously so yeah i mean you know certainly behind the scenes. It did a lot on, you know, on policy, I went down with the White House, but like doing it every day. Like, not, you have to have. So full life commitment. You got to, like, for me, it's like, just, I'm going to be just attacked for the next two years. Like, you got to, she's a, you know, a mother has three young kids. She's like, she's a mental battle. She did her time. You know, for me, again, I sort of, you know, there's a little, you know, different stomach for the criticism, right? And it's also even where she came from, right? Ivanka, you know, she was a big part

of that New York social scene, and she, you know, the people that, you know, now hate her, like, loved her and they were good friends and, like, my friends were always basically, like, you know, rednecks from upstate. You know, I did my thing during the week and I'd go up to my cabin in the Catskills on the weekends and hang out with, like, real people. And, like, it's a little different. For sure. And so, you know, you see, you know, everyone you used to know in love. And, by the way, there was not a person in New York City, you know, a mother in New York City that didn't want their daughters to turn out like Ivanka and then boom just like they did to Trump right whether it was you know how many rap songs was he on like 147 like all positive yeah you know

the guys that dude like guys like in everyone like literally had dinner with everyone likes them behind the scenes yeah even people like we talk to that I won't maybe say their names but like yeah some people have said it publicly but I did dinner with some of the guys that have been like vocal against I'm like yeah hey dude like I don't know I have your cell phone number like yeah we hung out like we partied together when I was younger like but maybe they want to say it, but their wives won't let them say it to or something like that. Again, you know, sort of the consequence. By the hell, where the hell's Housbola?

I mean, I only came here for Hussbollah. We were trying to get him to meet your father. Oh, dude, you should have called me on that one, that. I know. That would have been insane. Maybe next time if he comes back, maybe next time. That's how we could start to end the Ukraine deal. By the way, we can let Honsbola broker this deal.

By the way, he'd probably do a better job than any of the idiots involved right now. Probably, right? How do you think your father would end it in 24 hours? I've seen him say that. Listen, I think there's just sort of a, I think you saw it, right? There's a respect issue for, you look at Joe Biden and you see the way, and you're like, yeah,

we're going to, we can screw with those guys. You know, when you exude weakness, right? Like, it's different. When you're a bully and you see someone else that's actually good, all of a sudden you're not so bullying, right? You know, Trump did it in South Korea. You saw, you know, they're like, oh, Trump's doing it all. wrong. I'm like, really, he's the only guy that did anything right. Because the same people were

doing the same wrong shit for 40 years, but because they're elite and they, you know, there's no consequence to failure in Washington, D.C. You usually get a promotion. You know, they could just keep doing the same thing over and over again, expecting a different result and like, doesn't actually happen. So, you know, I think there's an element of, you know, understanding there's an element of respect. I think there's an element of just, you know, the way he would get it done. He actually understands how to get deals done. He does. He did that for decades. Like they, like, like, Prior to politics, you know, most of these guys in politics, it's like, you know, it's like their first time playing in the game, you know what I mean, and like understanding

how things actually work. And, you know, getting a deal done, we're not exactly sending our best. Yeah. So I have a question about, I kind of want to go back to the AI thing and just overall, in general, how this all speeds up. And if we're talking about seeing real change and having real change, like if, for example, everyone, they watch this news outlet because they They side here. They watch this news out because they side here. It becomes like an echo chamber. And then the things you find because of algorithms and way social media works,

it's just a constant regurgitation of those ideas. And then if you fall outside of that, you know, if you're left, you look right, you right, you look left. And then you go, oh, that can't be right because this is what I'm listening to. Now you start to think about AI and the way this is furthering because people don't necessarily do any sort of their own actual due diligence. Oh, 100%. Like how do we, how do we like, I don't even want to say fix this, but how do people start

to like, you know, you try to make that app where you're like, hey, here's, here's all sides. And it's, you know, they're like, fuck this. And you still get canceled. So it's like, how do we actually fight back against this thing that's going to come where it's like, AI and this shit's going to get so good that like, you don't know if you said that, if I said this, if he said that. And where you're getting your information now, you might just see something and be like, oh, he said that and I don't know what to think of it or I think this of it. If you read stuff from the left, you read stuff from the right, you read five articles. Like, it's literally like

AI just said, hey, change him up a little bit. It's all the same shit. Right. You know, and that's sort of scary. I mean, I could see AI just basically replacing most journalists, right? I mean, you know, it was sort of, you know, the joke from a few years ago, remember, you know, learn to code. Like a couple farmers lost their job. It's like, well, they should learn to code. It's like, well, no, journalists may have to learn to code because, you know, they're regurgitating nonsense. There's not many of them that are creating anything, frankly, new or novel. There's a couple independent guys doing great work. It's also gotten really interesting to me because obviously I've been on social media for many years, not in politics at all, but social media and the way social media works and knowing as like a YouTuber creator, you have to make this like sort of clickbait content, this ideas. It's going to get people to be like, oh, my God, this is scarier, this is bad. And that's all just everyone does. And now it's just, it's getting into politics now where it's like, oh, I could be a news journalist and I can write this hit piece or this thing about this person and I'm going to get the most traffic. And you read the article like, oh, but that's like, that's not even a big deal. And yet that's the problem. grabbed you because everything is generated by clickbait you know exactly i think you just got to start like looking away from the mainstream sources like i try to on like mxm we try to like promote even some of the sort of a lot of the independent stuff so you can see guys that aren't sort of beholden to corporate like i look at even you know you look at some of even the big conservative

stuff like you look at their social media stuff i'm like well what is that newsworthy like it's like these articles are like bullshit and it's like why is that oh it's just clickbait for some person so they they get the click it's not really newsworthy it's not really important gossip nonsense and yet like that's their revenue model these days and so that's what's crazy because it is about money and I don't think people listening really understand maybe this fully it's all about money is that like literally everything in the world is about because because it's like if I can get if I can get it's unfortunate but like yeah it is it's all about clicks like if you want to figure out what's going on follow the money

literally it's the most basic aspect of all of these things you know do you think they're going to ban TikTok you know I hope they don't ban tic talk you know I hope they don't ban TikTok. You know, I think that would be a mistake. And I'm not a fan. I won't put it on my phone. I wouldn't want my kids to have it. I'm not into banning stuff in America. I wouldn't want their servers to be like maybe host the, like maybe make that independent because there's no question they're, they're spying on everyone that has it. You know, and you know, you do something stupid as a 16 year old, which we all did. And like 20 years later, the Chinese government will weaponize that against you. There's no question. Like that information is being saved. Every click that you ever

did, every, you know, they will use that and they will weaponize it. you. That's happening. So maybe there's a way to isolate the servers, you know, force that to go through a place where they're not. Yeah. Oh, fuck. Yeah. But by the way. But your face was so funny on it. But wait a minute. But I don't think that Facebook is doing anything less other than maybe they're not selling the Chinese government yet. Like I, you know, I'm not saying that like TikTok's the only evil actor in all of this. I think, you know, I think we need a lot more protections on our information that has nothing to do. You know, if you put a stupid video on TikTok and that gets used against you later, that's fine. If they're looking at your porn hub search history, that's a little bit worse. So,

like, I'm lucky. Especially it's, dude. You know, you guys are young. Like, I'm all this shit. Like, like, the greatest thing that ever happened to me in life is that we didn't have cameras in our pockets 100% of the time. Like, when I was in high school and college, doing stupid high school and college shit. And I did plenty of it. These days, like, I tell my kids, I'm like, you just, you can't be like a normal kid used to be because, like, one of you were more on friends maybe innocently like videoing it or whatever and one day that's going to come back to bite you in the ass we're aware of that though of course yeah you are but like not everyone thinks of that you know yeah you know a couple happy dads in and like all of a sudden you know

those inhibitions go away and you say something like it's it's scary shit man like and you know in today's world especially you uh you know especially if it was my kids like you know if you're not like radical on the other side man like anything you're guilty until proven innocent not the other way around. Like, we've seen that. That change and shift has happened a lot. And so you just have to be a lot more cognizant of shit that I didn't have to be as a kid. Like, I could be a dumb kid.

What do even into my 20s and do stupid shit and, like, have a good time. And it's like, whew, like, you know, I'm glad there's no documentation of that night. Yeah. But, you know, it's no different than anything. I mean, it's did probably for hundreds of years of, like, stupid adolescents, right? But today, that can ruin. They literally end your life. Oh, yeah.

What do you think about? Didn't Utah just pass something where you have to be 18 or older to use social media? I think you need a parental consent to be on one of the platforms, which, you know, probably not that. I don't think that's crazy.

You know, especially, again, when you see what some of these platforms are pushing and, you know, where they're going, that, you know, yes, you know, let a parent make that decision. There's a lot of people that don't want that. Like, again, you know, we don't understand. Parents shouldn't have any say about what your kid learns in school.

I'm like, I think it's kind of wild. Yeah. Like, really? But that's the narrative. There's kids that can have careers now at 16 because of TikTok. Oh, I see it. I see it all the time. It's like, you know, it's had serious careers.

Yeah. Do you monitor that with your kids at all? Or like, how is it dealing with that? They don't have TikTok. I don't. Do they like ever beg you for it or no? They probably watch a little bit too much of sort of YouTube shit. Like, you know, I'm going to just.

and again you try to balance the best of it but sort of it's kind of like the new TV yeah like yesterday I was stuck at an airport for 14 hours you know what I was with my daughter and her friend and I took for her away for spring break

for like just a weekend and it's like well yeah do that yeah maybe do some homework and read also but like it must be tough as a parent right now you know you sort of see it it's like you know it's a pretty convenient babysitter sometimes when and again I'm not saying you shouldn't be doing other things I just think you're probably not doing

other things 24 hours a day, seven days a week. And so it's an easy thing. So I don't, but I have no problem with, you know, a parent having to consent to a kid using a platform. I think that's sort of no different than anything else would have been. Have you experienced that as a parent where your kid has come to you and asked you like an outrageous question where you're like, where did you hear that? Oh, yeah. I see that or like, little kids are smart, man. They figure their shit. Like I am, you know, I'm good on social media. I'm not a tech savvy guy per se. You know what I mean?

I'm not clueless, but like, you know, probably have some boomer tendencies in terms of what's really going on. And like, you know, I see them and they're like, oh, no, just do this. I'm like, 10 years old. Like, what? Crazy.

You know, so it's almost like what scares me is not what I know they're doing. It's what I'm not sure. What they're seeing? It's what I don't know. Yeah. Because probably as advanced as I am. Like, again, I'm good at creating content.

You know, maybe good at talking shit or making that aspect, you know, go viral. But, like, you know, behind the scenes, I don't know. So it's what they're doing. Are they, are they having some weird chat? Is there some weirdo getting into their, you know, has any of this changed the way that you've parented yourself, like your kids? You know, we try to just be as reasonable on it as possible, you know, we're not, we're not super strict on it, but, you know, they don't, only my daughter really has a social account. And she's sort of limited that just

to, you know, her golf stuff because she's just really good at it. And it's good. but, you know, that doesn't mean, you know, but they're surfing and they're seeing stuff. And then if other kids had, I've seen, you know, I've seen that like weird text messages from, I'm like, is that your actual friend? Oh yeah? Well, no. Like, well, how did they get that? Like, I think it was probably just spam, but like all of a sudden it's an adult having a conversation with a kid. You're like, what the fuck? Oh, dude, it's scary stuff, man. It's, it's, it's, uh, that stuff's real. And for them, they're just born in this digital age. They don't know any different. They're, like, they have a friend that they're talking to. And like, you know, that's the whole point. Like, kids are very impressionable. Kids are, you know, they just, they don't have. have that sort of nefarious, you know, outlook on life that, that I have after sort of experiencing this stuff, right, and seeing it with my own eyes. I feel like you've gone in some DM battles with some trolls for sure. Yeah, brother, right, more than a few. More than a few. Yeah, you know, oftentimes. But you know, the reality is what's sort of interesting about it, like, I actually try not to, I don't even engage.

I usually don't even read, I'll read my comments and stuff like that because, like, depending on where it is, you know, there's a lot more, let's say, like, you know, my, I'm. account will have a lot more sort of fans than like Twitter, which is just all hate. And that's fine. Like I'm happy to play in both worlds. I'm just not going to read the comments on a post I make on Twitter because it doesn't actually do anything for me. And, you know, engaging in that battle. I may just battle with the idea, but not the individual because I don't want to build up some other clown and give them a platform, you know, to my 10 million followers or whatever it is. And like, all of a sudden, some douchebag with, you know, 50 followers is like, you know, I'm like,

I'll pick a fight with the idea, you know, but not necessarily. necessarily engaged directly with them because like why would I win yeah yeah you're saying Twitter is like a lot of hate oh do Twitter's like 90s yeah again I still plan on we I love Twitter yeah I like it because I'm okay I'm comfortable playing there in that uncomfortable space you know that we were talking about sort of earlier not everyone is comfortable in the space and I understand that yeah but like I think you know for there to actually be dialogue going forward we all have to get a little bit more comfortable being uncomfortable yeah do you think your father returns to social media because I saw even his YouTube

band is up now. The YouTube Ben is, you know. Twitter obviously is up. Yeah, how come you guys? Facebook up, you know, maybe do some stuff there. I think Twitter probably not as, you know, just because, again, they spend all this time. You know, build your own. And then they put up every roadblock to you actually doing that.

You know, it sounds like a great sound bite. And then they try to, you know, they don't want to let you on Apple. And they don't want to let you on the Google store. So you can't actually get the app on the, you know. So you go through all this process of like building your own like you did with true social. And it's like, oh, well, then you, okay, we'll let you back on Twitter now that is, it's like, well, I don't know. You know, listen, I guess it would be a powerful tool,

but there's a component about it. And, you know, even, but even, I don't know, for you guys, but like, for me, it was interesting. Watching, like, Twitter before, dude, I was getting crushed. I was one of the original guys, be like, hey, dude, they're censoring. Like, years ago, they're like, how do you know that?

It was like, well, because yesterday I was getting 10,000 retweets. Today, I'm getting four. Not 4,000, like, four. You know, like, something changed. Like, you'd have to be an idiot to not see that. And then when sort of the musk, must take over was looked like it was going to happen dude like I gained like 500,000 new followers in like a period of a week and like all my engagement was through the roof and then it looked

like the deal was going to fall through and then it was like wow like it was like they were burning the files you know what I mean they released all the stuff that they were releasing then it looked like it was going to fail again and it just shut it off again then he took over and there was a good you know a month or two where it felt good but honestly for me now like Twitter two point it was like it feels like it's actually worse than it was prior to the take what about it You know, listen, I think the reality, you could fire a lot of people, but I think the inmates are still running the asylum, right? Like, Twitter, like, if you looked at, like, the donations by political party of, like, Twitter, it was like 99.2% one way. So, like, you can get rid of a lot of people. But I don't know, you know, Elon Musk's a genius. But I don't know that he can monitor each and every one of these things. I think the people in big tech are so heavily skewed one way that, you know, they'll sort of figure out a way to, like, I don't think, I don't think Mark Zuckerberg could be like, you know what? Facebook is going to go neutral right now. Like if he got red-pilled and went neutral right now,

I don't think it would change anything in the platform because literally everyone that's a part of allowing these things to happen can put up some sort of little roadblock there. And there's just not enough time and manpower of someone who would actually want there to be neutrality to actually effectuate that. Does that make sense? Yeah.

Is there still a lot of censorship going on on Twitter, though? I just feel like I hear from a lot of people on our, you know, on the conservative side of things that they're like, there's no, like, yes. Now, again, I think that's also a component, if I'm going to be on it. Like, I think there's a component of, like, I just think the vast majority of the people on Twitter

are also one way. But, like, I can see stuff. And I, you guys spend enough time. Like, you know, when I hit send, like, I know what's going big and what isn't and what sort of, okay, that's a fine tweet and maybe you got to make a point or like, and I know, like, that's going to go hot.

And when hot, it was like, you know, a thousand retweets in the first 20 minutes. And it's like, eh, it's like, stops. Yeah. That same principle though, right, where it's like that one guy can't monitor and change all of this, right? Isn't that kind of the same thing as like

the presidency? Is like the guy can be in charge and it's like... And that's why I think you've got to break down the systems fully. And that's perhaps what we didn't know going in first. It's like, oh, the president is the most powerful guy in the world. It's like, no, the underling of the underling can just slow play something. Right. You know what I mean? That's why I want, like,

pushing so hard for the people in Congress now in these investigations. I just want transparency. You know, we heard so much about this. It's going to be the most transparent administration ever, but it doesn't seem like they want any transparency in a lot of origins of COVID, you know, whatever the issue may be. So, you know, let's get that and let people make up their own minds. But, you know, we got to get there. And there's a lot of bureaucracy that's going to try to slow that spread of information out. Yeah. It just seems like, I don't know, man. Like, it just seems like it just fucked. But I think that's the point. Like, I think

they're trying, like, I think part of the game of the other side is to try to make you feel hopeless. Okay. You know what I mean? And that's why I don't, and maybe it's why I hit it as hard as I do because I don't want to believe that it's over. I think there's a point where you probably get past a critical juncture where you can't go back. Yeah. You know what I mean? And I think, you know, maybe we're getting closer to that and we'd like to believe. But like, you know, I do still think we can combat that and, and we have to. And the other side does want you to go, you know, hide in a corner, curl up in a ball and die. They're saying it out loud, not even pretending anymore.

So we got to push back. Who's saying that out loud specifically? You're seeing it. I mean, you know, just with the moves they're making. Yeah, the moves they're making. You know, the attacks on this, you see, you know, every day, you know, there's not sort of like, they're not pretending they want the best for everyone. Like they would put people who believe what I believe in the gulags if they could. Look at the treatment of like the January 6 people versus the people from, you know, the summer of love.

you know, of 2020, you know, you can burn down buildings, you can take over government offices, you can, you know. What was that the summer of love? What's that? Like 2020? Like the riots. Okay. You know what I mean? Like, he's called it the summer of love. It's the summer of love. Is that when they had the, no, but that was the media. Remember the mostly peaceful protest? I'm like, dude, there's a fucking building burning in the background. Hold on. Do you remember the mostly people? Oh my God. I got asked about this. Do you remember the autonomous zone of Chaz? Yes. Like, if that was reversed politically,

like seal team six would have been in there and kill everyone you know what I mean but when they take over a government building and a you know an entire few blocks of a city well it's in the name of social justice like you can go loot a Gucci store for you know a nice pair of kicks my that's that's social justice so it's different my favorite was January 6 you walk around taking a selfie you spend two years in jail like I don't know dude I'm not again I'm not condoning you know the few people who were violent if they you know but like they'd lead you to believe that everyone was violent it was the first unarmed insurrection in the history of the world. Like, but that was the narrative. That was the gospel. If you disagreed again, you were canceled. One of the four craziest ones was during the COVID thing was like during the riots. It was like they did this thing where they said, well, because they're outside like, and there's like thousands of thousands of people. Yeah. You're like, oh, you're not going to get COVID though. It's not LA. They didn't one in New York where they're like, it actually may be good. I'm like, wait, like, so that's not a super spurt. Like a Trump rally was a super spurted event. This mask was, you know, riot in New, like, that. That's, like, that.

That was actually, there's actually a way it could be good. Bro, I wasn't saying. To prevent COVID. And I'm like, I don't, like, wait a minute. Like, I couldn't believe it. You're an imbecile. I couldn't believe it. And yet they should.

That was the craziest shit to me. You know what's interesting is how's history going to look back on like what happened with COVID though? Like, do you think it'll be like, I feel like it'll be the narrative that will be written, right? Like I don't know. I mean, listen, history is written by the victors, right? Yeah. So I guess it depends. I think right now it probably doesn't look good on, you know, a lot of those people and the government.

and, you know, and everything that they love to, but, you know, you'll allow this stuff to continue and, you know, I mean, think of what we've learned about Fauci and funding the, like, they knew it all. You look at the hypocrisy, his emails to his colleagues and what he said publicly were like, literally polar opposites. And like, no problem. Like, the media didn't have a problem with that. Yeah, you just, forget it. They just lied to the people, like, you know, we'll do it. It can hurt Trump. That's good for the narrative. Therefore, it must be the gospel. Yeah, that's what it's just got out of control, man. That's what I think if there's an elite, they looked them. They said, oh, we got these guys, like, we got society by the balls.

And we signal to them that we're giving you the opening, right? Like, we are, we gotta wear a mask and I'm really paranoid about something that affects, you know, 0.05, you know, if you didn't, I'm not saying it wasn't real, but if you didn't have a preexisting condition, if you're a young guy like you're healthy, like, you're fine. Yeah. Like, statistically, you're fine. Like, common cold, fine. You know, now, if you had a preexisting condition, very real. You gotta take that more seriously, but like that everyone had to do it. And that more importantly, everyone just fell into line.

Not everyone, but like, you know, guys like maybe like, I don't understand, but like so many people just, it was just easier to fall in the line and be a sheep. Yeah. And that was what was scary to me, because I think that signaled to those, you know, around the world that want to push for that kind of control over people that, hey, man, it'll be easier to get that kind of control. For me, I have one example. I kept my gym open during the whole pandemic. Yeah. And then I got, I got caught up in California because my gym's in California. And then I went to, I don't know, like 10, 15 court dates.

And then at the end of it, they were like, all right, never mind. So you just won't know. If you were willing to wait out the intimidation or and could afford it. Exactly. That's the problem. That's the big problem. That's what they, maybe they weren't expecting with Trump. It's like, you know, we're in this thing we're like, you know, between like bullshit, like impeachment one

that like hundreds of millions of dollars probably legal fees, right? Like, well, we can weather that storm. The average person can't. That's the biggest problem. So they were just hoping for just pure submission. And that's the problem. Like, you know, that's all they'll accept, right? Like you've seen. Well, because they've ruined a bunch of people's lives. They destroyed lives.

They destroyed businesses based on lies. Right. They didn't care. Like, well, guess what? Like, Starbucks was essential, but you're a little local coffee shop. I mean, I could talk about this all day. I mean, he has opened the whole time. It's super essential, but like your local convenience store isn't.

I'm like, well, why? Because those guys can write a really big check to lobbyists and we'll get the exemption. Fuck that, dude. That's bullshit. And like, but it happened. The same county that I was in, the L.A. County and I lived in Woodland Hills, you were able and it's okay to film pornography indoors. Yes.

Because it's entertainment. in the same sort of like you can't be in a gym. Yes. So it was just like there was no, it was. Again, you know, there wasn't as big a lobby for the, you know, the small business owner that no one, no one, no one could fight for that guy. That's, you know, that's why for me I was getting really vocal about this stuff at the time. And he was like, wait a minute. Yeah.

And, you know, turns out I was right. But we know that now, but it didn't stop them from destroying all these businesses because so many people went along with it. Yeah. And even the gym and they come back later and they're like, yeah, all this stuff's actually, you should be doing this. Yeah, but how much did you end up spending? Oh, a ton. Yeah. Yeah.

Like, you know, and you were lucky to weather that storm. Other people were broken by that. Yeah. Well, I mean, people just literally lost their business in a life. Imagine I spent my whole life to open a gym and I didn't have all those other social media shit. I'd have been under. My whole life would be different. Yeah.

Like, it would be gone. Of course. And that's what happened to 99% of people because they didn't have, you know, the other things that I was able to. No, let's say, hey, we're, you know, we're in hotels. You think that was fun during the pandemic? Like, you know, it's brutal. It's trying to keep, you know, I mean, just even trying to keep people employed. when you weren't allowed to operate a business.

Yeah. You know what I mean? And we did a lot with that. Just trying to keep like, you know, crushing the business. Just keep people on the payroll. Like, let's get through, you know, one week, one more week. Come on, we can, you know what I mean? And then it took so long to ramp that back up.

Like that was brutal. But man, like some of these people were with us for 20 years. Like you got to do what you can't be. But like, you know, and then, you know, they made all the, you know, the funding for, you know, companies around the world. But they carved out Trump organization. I was like, well, why? Well, because he's the guy.

It's like, we hate him. I'm like, yeah, but how are we different than like, you know, the hotel across the street that gets PPE funding to be able to keep their people around? Like, you're going to carve, you're not hurting us. You're hurting the dude making, you know, the bellman at a hotel. But that didn't matter that, you know, again, it's like, we were able to get Trump with a soundbite. It's like, well, what about the thousands of people that Trump actually employs? Like, you know, you don't really care so much about them.

If they, if you're canon fodder to them, if they can, if they can. If they can win a headline and, you know, get the clickbait that they really, they stuck it to Trump. Yeah. Just, it's stupid, but it's the game. I hate to call it a game, but it is. Perspective from my situation, too, is a little interesting because there's a gym up the street, there's a gym down the street. But I was like most out there on the internet. And I'm, so you can imagine how many accounts I have breaking the same thing, which is like not listening to their order.

I had about 61, the gym up the street, the gym down the street doing the same exact thing, even on a bigger scale, the one up the street, one count, eight counts. I had 61, but that's because I'm on social media showing what I'm doing and people being like, oh, we got to get this guy. But again, they go, they're going to target that opposition. They've shown that very clearly. Like I said, again, the perfect example is the Summer of Love

versus sort of J-6, right? And again, I'm not saying there weren't people wrong on both sides, but like, you know, there's people that literally like walk through the Capitol taking a selfie. They've been in jail for two years. Like, I had some of them on my podcast and one of the lawyers for some of these people, you know, on my old podcast. And it's like, like they got, they've been in jail, like no due process.

It doesn't matter. And then they're in D.C. So they get a biased judge that hates their guts and it doesn't matter. And, you know, other people literally burning down. They're heroes. Like, I don't understand. But how do you think that should have been treated then? Listen, I think if someone did something violent, you got to be, you got to, you know,

sort of follow the law. I think if someone walked through and again, like you look at the video now and we've seen that, right? But they wouldn't release the video because they knew. the video wouldn't line up with the narrative that they sold, right? You see grandmothers like walking around. They're taking selfies. Like, they're just like, honestly, there are people in that building

that didn't know that they weren't even allowed to be in that building by that point. And some of those people are arrested? Some of those people have been in jail for two years. They didn't, they did nothing violent, just being present. Oh, shit. I didn't know that. Like, they're still in jail. What?

Yeah, no, but that's the point. Oh, man. Like, weren't you there, Brad? Oh, no, no. Oh, that's funny. That's funny. I got that picture taken down. You talking about the guy with the horns? Yeah, it wasn't that you?

That wasn't you or the Q&N shaman? Nah, that's fuck you guys. But it's funny because I posted that picture. See, he's worried about the FBI coming to pay him of this. No, no, no, no. I posted that picture because so many people are messaged me, were like, yo, is this you? I posted it and was like, this is not me and it got removed

like for like inciting violence or some shit on Instagram. This was Brad. That wasn't me. Okay, that's 100%. Make sure everyone sees it so the FBI could track them down using facial recognition. It wasn't me, you're on a list. Fuck, that's not me, dude. That's some other guy.

Forget his name. Sure it is. Likely story. So last thing, I guess we'll go back to it. Like, 2024, how do you see it playing out? Do you think DeSantis runs for sure? Yeah, I think he runs. Listen, you know, oh yeah, I think that's foregone conclusion.

It's a matter of when they announce. But again, how do you see that playing out? You know, it's going to be what it is. Like, you know, that's fine. I'm not too worried about it. But again, follow the money. money. Like, you got to remember the political consultants that are getting 10% for your TV ad buy and 20% for this. And like, there's so much money to be made, you know, running a campaign

that will generate a lot of money and billionaire dollars. Like, the political consultant class will not allow him not to run. You know, they're pushing this because, like, there's the amount of money that will be made in that cycle by that group of individuals who are very political, who have a lot of power like if he doesn't run they don't make any money this cycle because we're not bringing them on because frankly many of them are the scum of the earth and like so it sounds like he wins then no it has nothing to it it doesn't matter like don't don't kid yourself like many of these guys have done this over and over every cycle for years they've made millions of dollars their candidates lose all the time oh but they're still making money right they're still a tv ad buy for nine

months of a primary and they're making 10 20 percent every time there's a TV commercial of the spend, right? So they're taking donor money. You know, every time there's a donor online, they're taking, you know, some of these things like the donors, like they're taking 90% of the money and 10% is going to the candidate. And then they'll run an ad and they'll run it with their friend who owns the company and they get a kickback for the commercial. Like, it's a, it's the, like the biggest grift in the world. And so there's so many people that are going to, like, it's their livelihood and they're not going to not make millions of dollars. this cycle as individuals by not allowing him to do it or saying, hey, take a pass,

run in four years, you know, we'll shore up your thing, you know, finish off a term as governor as you just ran. Like, no, no, no, we're all going to make a shit ton of money so you have to run. It's the only way. Like, the amount of pressure being put on that and the donor class and like, that that's what people don't get about, you know, that whole system. Like, it's literally, it's a big, big, win or lose game. Win or lose. They're making money. Guess what? They make money if there's a TV commercial. It's why And none of those people. When Trump ran in 16, it's why he never got any of those big names because they're like, oh, that's never going to happen. I'm going to stick with Jeb because that's the easy

money. Right. If the Santis is the establishment billionaire donor class, he's like, that's a shit a load of money. Yeah, these guys are going to stroke, you know, seven, eight figure checks. You know, we're going to get 20% of that each and every time and there's hundreds of them doing it. It's a lot of money to be made. And they're not going to not make that money. They're not going to sit the cycle and, you know, do a couple, you know, a couple congressional races, a couple Senate races, you know, they're going to go with the big money. Wait, so you're saying there's people that are like donor agents that are taking a cut and then the agents skim off of everything that the money was.

So they'll take like a standard like 15 off the donation? Oh, 15 would be cheap in many cases. That's like even on the donation, right? The don't, the people brokering those things. Sometimes they'll take 20% of the like, of the actual donation. And then you take, then $100 goes to a TV commercial. Well, this guy's buddy is getting paid to produce the commercial, and this guy's buddy is getting a percentage of placing the commercial, meaning a percentage of the cost just to run the commercial. This guy's making that money.

And there's guys that have organizations that are basically have their hand in every aspect of this thing to the tune of like, you know, there's guys that will make eight figures who are just political consultants. They'll make eight figures this year on just that campaign alone, probably. So there's no way it's not happening, in my opinion, because of that. you could say, hey, maybe the smarter thing is, hey, you know, let Trump do it now. He's leading in the polls. He's got a shot. Focus on being good. You can be the leader of the pack in four years that you get, you know, natural, like, that would make a lot of sense. But you think there's no, I think there's, that would be logical. They can't hold on to that money. There's too many powerful people. They can, some, you know,

it could probably work something out with their donors. But again, the poll, the consultants do not want that to happen. Because again, if you're holding on the money, they're not, you know, you need the turn to make the money, right? you're not getting a percentage if the money's not being spent or raised, right? But they're getting, whether it's spent or raised, they're getting a piece of all of the action. And that's the big, you know, scam in all of that game. Wish it could have been Trump to Santos together, right? Yeah, there is something constitutionally, but you can't have two people from the same state, actually, you know, running.

But, you know, it seems that, you know, probably not likely right now. Is there any options on who you think the VP could be on the? I don't know. I think it depends. So, you know what I mean? I think there's probably a couple of people that, you know, there's a couple of people that I'd like, and there's probably a couple people that could be.

And I'm not sure those are entirely concentric circles. Can you say like a group of five? No. Try, I just try to get the answer. I don't try. Listen, I think that's probably, you know, there's probably some natural ones. And I think there's probably some that, you know,

people, you know, wouldn't expect, you know, I think you have something, you know, You probably don't need, you know, two Trumpian-type characters. I think you'd probably want something to balance some of that out. It's interesting. But, I don't know, it'll be interesting. Brutal, very interesting. Very, yeah.

Yeah, well, I think this is awesome, man. Thank you, thank you, thank you. Part two. I'm sure we'll do a part three with you soon. How long are you in town? We leave Wednesday or no, we might be here until Friday. Yeah, we might stick around. You can put back for the, they brought some food.

Yeah, you're going to be around? I think I'm going to go out there. Awesome. Yeah, you got to see it out there. That should be interesting. Awesome. Well, we appreciate it, man. Thank you so much. You want to tell our audience, where can they find, like, your podcast and all that and stuff like that? Definitely. You can podcast twice a week on Rumble. It's called Triggered with Don Jr.

That's been, you know, sort of fun and just, again, a different outlet. It's something I never thought I'd ever be doing. But, you know, even our side is just so afraid of someone saying what is. And again, that's my opinion of what is. But I don't know. It feels like I've been proven right on a lot of things. So I've been doing that twice a week. Standard social platforms, basically everywhere but TikTok. you know, probably home on IG, Twitter, and truth more so and then just some short form stuff on Facebook, but you know, just everywhere trying to

yeah, trying to fight. Awesome. It's always great having you. You guys all have to come on the podcast on the next time you're down for, except. Anytime. Let's go out fishing or something like that. Yeah, I'm down for that. Yeah, well, we can do anything. We went with those boys once. It was the best day ever. Josh and Jake, great guys. Yeah, that's how I started a lot of the stuff. But yeah,

there's plenty of options down here, so I'll have a lot with that. Awesome. Well, thank you guys. You see you next to you guys.