FULL SEND PODCAST - Dr. Phil x Nelk Boys | Ep. 121

Episode Date: April 5, 2024

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all right boys we got a crazy episode today we're at billy bobs in texas check out this bar bro it's not open right now but this is the biggest bar in america it fits 5,000 people they sell like 15 000 drinks a night happy dad is actually available here so shout out to billy bobs because they're just showing happy dad so much love we love it who's calling me classic mennery bro late where are you you're late uh how far away we sir 21 21 minutes oh my god you're late two episodes in a Bro, bro. That's, like, perfect for the episode. I just have a purpose to make sure it, like, group the episode.

This is perfect. You're going to miss Dr. Phil on the helicopter. It's almost better. It's like, well, Bob should be here, but I don't know where he is, you know? Yeah, you're just manipulating the audience, right? Yeah, right. All right, I'll see you soon. I got to go.

Got this episode to run. Idiot. Yo, is he here? We're going to go there to the landing zone. All right. It's pulling up on a helicopter. Stiney and Bob are both late. For Dr. Phil.

What else is seriously new This is the type of shit that I deal with on a day-to-day basis Just so you guys know Yo, you're landing at 1210 He said, yeah, I said, that's a bit late, don't you think? He said, I thought the pod was at one I'm like, yeah, it's 30 minutes from the airport I think that's a bit tight to be honest

For a massive episode I even warned him, Brad, eh? I mean, I was here. I was here on time, I was actually an insane arm Dr. Phil's, I don't know, I guess he's trying to flex on us a little bit He's flying in on a helicopter And even Trump didn't do that, or Elon. He's up in it, he's up in it.

He's up in it. He's definitely changing, maybe put him makeup on and shit. He's doing his hair 100%. Steady, hurry up! It's very specific. Sizes, otherwise we would have grabbed your hats. Cowboy hat? Not part of your two gay cowboys and good.

Oh, okay. Yo, run! I was on the phone with my agent. Hey guys, big new top cruise movie. Big new top cruise movie. You are in trouble. What the fuck is that? That's crazy.

Official. I got a border pick with you go on the show. That's fine, that's fine. Just make sure the bone don't pick with all of us. Wait, where is the Harry Potter costume? I knew you wouldn't bring it, luckily. Stiney brought one from LA. Since you're not wearing Potter, you're going to be wearing Dumbledore this time.

Oh, my favorite! Oh, he's got to be pulling a pole right here. Chopper's kind of dust or while that's nice? Is it? Round a location. Long place. Long place, Dr. Phil. Hey, let's go.

I'm going to fight, Dr. Phil. I don't think you should find him. He got me out of bed. It's really hard to take you serious with that. I'm not going to lie. Good, sir. We got a lot of questions. I hope you have somebody with answers.

How's what you have? Kyle. I lost a prop bet, so I got to wear this shit. So I'm sorry. Apologized. Well, it must have been a big bet. Yeah, it was all right. You always pull up like this?

It's the only way to go, right? He's a boss. Come on. Dr. Phil. All right, we got a lot to cover. Yeah, we got to head over that. So the bet was, um, we had a bit of a disagreement back in the day. We could get into that, too, later, but.

I sued them. He, he was on the show. He left. He tried suing us. Tried suing us. Tried suing us. Didn't work. Spent a bunch of money.

But either way, we came to an agreement. His little daddy, Dana White called me up and asked for a favor, so I let it go. So I let him come back on for six episodes. and by the end of the six episode, his promise was he has to get Daniel Radcliffe, Harry Potter, which was kind of like a dream guest of ours. You are as well, so thank you for being here. But until he gets him,

he has to wear a different character from Harry Potter every episode. So today's Alva's Dumbledore. Oh, well, he was at the house last night. I should have brought him. Who was? Radcliffe. Are you serious? No.

You can't fucking me like that, dog. You can't fuck with me. I'm serious. This is a real, real thing. This is my life depends on it. No, but this is awesome to have you, man. I mean, when we heard that you were coming on the show, we all got really excited. Yeah.

We all took early flights to be here today, so we're pumped to have you here. I know you got a bunch of stuff going on, too, right? Well, I do, but nothing more important than being here with you guys. 100%. Have you ever had somebody ask you something that you just couldn't, you didn't have advice for? You got stumped? It happens daily. Oh, really?

Yeah. Like, you don't know the answer to how to help them. Yeah. Bob, why don't you ask him something? Go ahead. No, well, first of all, I think. I think that I, you're one of my favorite people that I've ever watched my life. Thank you.

Like, I remember my mother always used to watch you, I mean, every second of every day. So, and I was not late today. And I, they give me shit because I party too much sometimes, but so does he. He parties all the time. You were there with him. I wasn't. He just goes out. Wait, but, Doc, is that such a bad thing?

Well, it seems to be working for you. Yeah. I mean, you look to be healthy and happy. Well, I'll tell you why. I'll tell you why, because I got out of this really bad relationship. I got out of this really bad relationship. This girl, there was this girl who, like, you know, unfortunately cheated on me several times. I didn't know the number is so high, and it keeps growing by the day.

So I was really traumatized over it, right? I was really f***ed over it, and I was like, how can I get over this? Because I went to a dark place. And then what I felt was the best way to get out of it is to just run through as many women as I could in the most respectful way. What? I don't think we came here to, like, do therapy for you personally. I got one chance to sit down with Dr. Philly. You don't think I'm going to, no, I know.

But, like, we're here to talk to Dr. Phil about what he's working on what he's doing. Oh, yeah, you're right. You know? Yeah. Why don't you tell us about Marit Street Media? Well, I was kind of getting into the story. Okay, okay, okay, okay. Fair, fair.

So what I want to know is I'm serious is a real thing. So the best way for a guy, if you had a girl that you loved, you cared about. You sit up normally, why you sitting like this? A girl that you loved, you cared about so much and she fucked you over. What do I, how do you recover from that? If you can't get out of your head, it's in your head every day, every day. How'd you pick her? I thought she was normal.

I met her at a bar randomly. Well, there you go. And she seemed normal. She seemed like she was a good girl. And then I'm just asking you this. You think, is it okay to sleep around after that a traumatic thing like that happens? Yeah, that's not going to fix it. Really?

No. Okay. What do you think we'll fix it? How do you think he can get a? out of his head. Well, because his problem, too, he's not telling you the rest of the story is, like, he also still involves himself with this person. Like, I had, I slept with her two nights ago, too. So that's like, you can't go back to your exes. No. Especially after she's done all that damage to you. And then you blast her on social media. We don't need to talk about that. That was my

assistant. He takes over my account between one in the morning and eight. Oh, so it's like whenever it's what. So you were hacked? I was hacked. Yeah. My account was hacked. I believe you. You've heard that one before. Yeah. But, uh, yeah, so I just didn't know if you had any advice. Yeah. My advice is once you're out, stay out. Okay. Yeah, she's in your rearview mirror. That's the reason. Rearview mirrors are that big,

and windshields are that big. Look ahead, man. Okay. Leave her in your rearview. Move on. Okay. This is also a reoccurring issue. And Stani also, I think,

has sex with her, and he's not telling me. Yeah. So what are you, what's your passion project right now that you're working on? Yeah, I am launching a new network. Wow.

I mean, it's not at the level that you're dealing with, but with her, but it is 24-7. Yeah. Oh, you are. I'm taking this costume off now. I'm rocking my...

Just leave, that's fine. That's a good... Yeah, that's good. We're on the cowboy hat. I got a little more of a serious question. All right. About your... Brad, take this over and make this serious.

I got this. I got this for real. So, social media, right? You've seen it change and evolve over the years because you've been, you know, on the network cable side of things and now you're on the social media side of things. How do you see yourself,

obviously having great success like you've had, on network media in the social space. And, like, how does it, is it different? Do you have, like, a team that helps you? Is it? Oh, yeah. There are people that do the technical parts of it, not the content parts of it.

Yeah. You know, if something gets said, I need to say it, but I'm not good at hitting the buttons and all that kind of stuff. But I think people get their information differently now than they did. You guys grew up with this, right? Yep. What year were you born? Ninety-eight-nine.

Yeah, so. I'll blend of both, for sure. Yeah. And so to see, yeah. Yeah. But I started my show, the first year of Dr. Phil was 2002. Yeah. At that point, there weren't any social media platforms.

They didn't exist. Yeah. So when I started, I was dealing with people that had real-world issues. There wasn't anything like cyberbullying. those two words were never used together there was no such thing there weren't any online predators you didn't have to worry about somebody talking

your 14 year old daughter at her window thinking she was talking to a 14 year old guy that was going to meet her downtown and it turns out to be a 45 year old pedophile or something you didn't have to worry about that but then about 0809 everything changed because that's when the smartphones dropped

and all of a sudden social media platforms got prolific. It started out with Myspace. You remember that? Yeah, of course. Yeah, that was, you know, bands were real big on MySpace and stuff. That didn't last very long, but it changed the world. I mean, it changed everything. And technology is good.

I love technology, but it's got a lot of unintended negative consequences. So what's the goal of the new network? The goal of the new network is to communicate with people every way we possibly can about common sense core values that I think are really important for people to be healthy and happy when like those smartphones dropped the next year were the highest levels of anxiety depression and loneliness among young people ever recorded really that's a fact that's a fact in what 2009 2009 and 2010 highest levels

and it just kept getting worse since then and it's terrible now and then when COVID hit it really spiked you think there's any way to turn it into more of a positive look on social media oh there are positives to social media stay away from your page that's it no there are social there are positives

to it for sure there are positives to it but the average average person checks their phone 352 times a day yeah what's your screen time I have no idea Because you can find out now.

You can look in your phone. If you guys all look at your phone, you can find out the screen. But it's less on the phone than it is on the iPad because I do a lot of stuff on the iPad. You ever played? You seem like a big iPad kind of guy? Yeah. So does it seem like the only solution for the negativity is to just spend less time on your phone? Well, negativity that's associated with social media platforms and cell phone.

You know, they asked people, they did a survey not long ago. They asked a bunch of college kids, what would we have to pay you a week? uh to get off your devices and it was like i don't know it was less than i thought it was like 50 bucks a month or something 30 50 bucks a week i think it was and uh they said what have we got everybody else off of them where nobody was on it they said we'd pay you survey said we'd pay you the only reason they're on it is just fomo they're scared to death they're gonna miss something so what do you think is causing the negativity with the social media just because you could see everyone else's life in a way that's not necessarily true or people are constantly looking

compare themselves to all these influencers lives but they're not real yeah and so mine's real doc their reality with other people's social mask and by comparison they they lose every time but of course you are yeah it's like comparing yourself to somebody on a billboard they don't really look like that i think the other problem too is like now so Social media, it's a way to make relationships and, like, we wouldn't, like, you wouldn't get laid if it wasn't for social media. Oh, my God. So who are you? I have so much.

All of us. All of us. Well, we're doing better. We're doing better. You what they do. Their lives are. They run around with these. Hey, hold on, hold on.

You too, you do too. Because I can't, I like to live a normal life, Dr. Phil. I know you don't? You live the most unnormal life. Incorrect. You don't even live anywhere. You know what you guys do? When I live in a lot of, beautiful place in Las Vegas.

You don't have a house. How is that normal? It's beautiful. That's not your house. I forgot my point now that I was real. Oh, yeah. When I started work with them, everything was good, no anxiety. I had no social media that I was using.

Every time I open up, if I open up a cabinet, there's a camera there. It's like, I got to tell you a story. Don't you guys understand what real life is? You should step away from the cameras and have them like when they follow you and everything. Dude, you're the guy. You film everything you do. No, I don't. My thing takes two seconds.

Got up my right? Yes, bro. You film everything in your story, like in real time. I don't have a camera following. Dude, I was on FaceTime with this guy the other day. I'm taking off Dumbled door. in the morning, I look and it's on his story. Like, he screenshots it and posts it right away.

He's kind of the epitome of that guy. What about TikTok? You use TikTok? Hold on. Does Dr. Phil use TikTok? I have some things on TikTok. We got to go back to your anxiety. Are they going to ban TikTok or no?

No, I don't think so. I mean, they just want someone to buy it. I don't think so. Are they, okay. What's your advice, though, to young people? Because obviously, like, like what we do, we use social media, everyone's going to use it. What is kind of the answer to that problem? Well, it's not use.

It's a problem. It's abusing it. The problem is young people quit living their lives. They date later. They start having sex later. They get their driver's license later. Their development is arrested because they're not living their real lives. They don't develop socially. So much of things that are normal development, healthy development skills, interactive skills, real world skills get pushed off the schedule because they spend. so much time on social media so they don't have the social skills that they would have if they weren't on that they would go out in the yard they would touch the grass they would talk to the neighbor next door they would play softball baseball you know team sports interact with people yeah and if you add up all the hours they spend on the screen and you took half of those and made them where they were interacting with their friends out doing something would change the whole world. So can you make social media a positive thing then?

Because we can't get away from it now at this point. No, it's going to get worse with AI. I was going to say, yeah. Isn't that just a technology issue? Like, even the Applevision Pro, that's only V1. Like, if we compare that to, like, the first smartphone, like, imagine when that's on, like, V-15, like, what is the Applevision Pro going to be? Well, I also think it's a, I think it's a thing where it's like, too,

if you have an anxiety or even fear to approach somebody in person doing it by your phone, that kind of goes away. So it takes out that factor of like, oh, I'm going to approach somebody in person and fear it. Like, he's a big like wear stuff that's not really his, like a flexor and he kind of gets people into

like, oh, he's the worst. He wears, listen, it's gold chains, whatever it is, the chains, it's clubs. Any of the bottle service problem. He goes, that's kind of that's kind of who I am. I don't know why that's. Like he's the best life guy and he got like. He started a show just to get women. He started a show just to get women.

Well, you know, it's like in Santa Monica, they've got the fake private fuselage for the private airplane. You can go rent it for 15 minute intervals. And the influencers do that all the time. They go sit in this fake airplane and pretend they're on a private jet flying somewhere. Have you done that?

Yeah, wait, by the way, don't worry. We recorded how you pulled up, so we know you're legit. Have you actually done that? Huh? Have you actually used that? I mean, I've been on planes that I didn't pay for that I've like shown that I'm on there.

No, I mean, fake planes. yeah he's a fake plane guru please once I got exposed there was no chance I was going to do that do you think you should wait till marriage to have sex what do you think you should wait till marriage to have sex I think it's a very I think it's a question a lot of people should know and ask a valid question because he just brought up the point that you know people are starting to have sex younger I've tried to your accent but like should you wait till marriage to have sex do you think well I'm not sure you should ever have sex we have a lot of it lately we've had a lot of it Wait, I want to tell you a story.

This thing don't even work no more. I got to tell you guys this at March Madness, this guy. We went to March Madness, and this guy comes up to me. And he's like, hey, I got to sit next to you. And I was like, oh, God. And he was like, you're with Bob Menry. I'm like, yeah. And he said, I met him five years ago.

We had dinner together. His girl goes to the bathroom and he looks at me. And he says, hey, you're kind of a good looking guy. Please don't my girlfriend. God comes up to me in March Madness. Never seen him before. So this is an anxiety that he's had for what, 10 years now? What, did I have the fear of somebody else sleeping with my girl?

Yeah. Maybe, yeah, yeah, I do. Maybe sometimes. Is that an inner insecurity? That's dinner talk? I mean, this is somebody you said, somebody you having dinner with. Yeah, random guy. Why was it on the agenda?

You know what I like to do? Unlike these guys that run around like security and don't talk to people, don't take pictures and stuff. I'm very social, right? So I like, I like. This guy's the biggest. That's like, higher. I don't want to waste Dr. Phil's not. Neither do I.

Let's get serious. Let's get serious. Okay, boy, I got a question though, too, Dr. Phil. How, how annoyed do you get when you like, let's say you give Bob? some advice, right? How upset do you get when you give all these people advice and it goes in one ear and out the other? Well, you know, when I first started, seriously, I've been doing this for 45, 50 years. When I first started, it really bothered me. I mean, it was like a young lion. It was going to cure the world. And I mean, I was in private practice and I would talk to

people and give them all this advice. I would lay awake at night, worrying where they were going to do it not they're home sleeping like a baby I'm worrying about it and then I realized you know you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them float on their back I mean all you can do is tell them and it's he it's up to them they're either going to do it or they're not and people make changes when they're ready to make changes and you can't you you can't do it for them you can you can get them geared up for it you can show them the you can give them the tools but people are going to change when finally there's one

there's one element that they got to have and until it's there they're not going to change and it's this until they look themselves in the mirror and say I am so sick to death of your crap I am so sick to death of what you do every day that I would rather take the risk to make the change, go through the pain of making the change, deal with the fear of the unknown. I would rather do that than put up with what I'm living with until they get to that point, they're not going to make a change. Because it's a comfort zone. What would you feel is one of your greatest accomplishments ever, in your personal opinion? One of my greatest accomplices. Yeah, like what are you most proud of that you've done

of your life. Raised two healthy, happy, vibrant, successful boys that are good fathers and husbands and citizens and all with a lot of help from their mother. That's a nice network TV answer. I'm a joke. I'm joking, of course.

That's awesome. That's amazing. Family's very important. Off that question, what do you think is the most common problem that people come to you for, something you just notice where it's like this is a problem that so many people face today? fear and anxiety of something in their life i mean depression and anxiety is a thin line between it but it's just pain and dissatisfaction in their life but it expresses in a lot of different ways but uh it's really fear and sometimes that expresses in depression but it's it's just you know pain from life people are it's it's real hard sometimes to deal with everything life

throws at people and they get overwhelmed and sometimes that expresses as stuck sometimes it expresses as panic sometimes it expresses as a false sense of superiority where they come across is like you know overconfident and all but it all boils down to kind of a fundamental fear of life yeah how you combat that how would someone combat that best everybody has a personal truth and what i mean by that is everybody all of you everybody standing here me me too we all have a personal truth it's something that we believe about ourselves when nobody's looking nobody's listening no social mask it's what when we wake up at three in the morning and we're

staring at the ceiling it's what we believe about our ourselves. That's so critically important because we generate the results in life we think we deserve. So if your personal truth is really damaged and you think like, you know, I'm a piece of crap, I don't, I'm not as smart as everybody else, I'm not just talented as everybody else and I'm not as good as everybody else, then you will generate results that match that belief. If you think your second class, somehow or another, you'll sabotage yourself and you'll generate results that go with that belief.

And if you fix that belief to where you think, hey, I really do deserve a good life, I really do deserve to have what I see other people having, peace, tranquility, success, or whatever, then you've got a chance to generate those results. But if I can tell a lot about somebody just by kind of watching them walk around, and you can't too if you think about it, you see people that don't groom themselves or don't take care of their health, you'll see them kind of walking down the sidewalk, head down, shuffling around like gosh I can go to the bathroom real quick

you've seen people like that so if you could give a read on everybody in this room right now looking at them what would you say well I haven't seen much that's what you've seen because he wants his answer well we know a lot about you already yeah we already know about me I'm saying like you know Kyle's obviously the stoic like you know

holds himself together one me I'm a little wild what would you think of him if you had to what's your read on who on done steiny because you just said that you can read people well he's kind of performing right now yes sir thank you appreciate that let's go what about uh yeah i don't really know who he is right now because he's kind of got a mask on me and you can talk after what about what about brad mr macho has to make a statement that he's the biggest guy here i don't know if you saw but he when you got out the helicopter he kind of sized you up he is the biggest guy here how uh can i ask you a personal

question probably not but you can try all right how rich are you yeah yeah That's what I said, probably not. Wait, I want to get back. I want to get back. Is it like, fuck you rich? Let's just make it here. He's got a lot more money than you. He's going to agree on that.

Well, that's all right for like years. Well, I got some money buried away than we're in being here. What? What guests, like, stuck with you the most? What's one that was just like super memorable? It's not a guess. It's category of guests. And that's kids, particularly young kids, like, you know, that don't really have a voice.

Because I see a lot of kids that are three, four, four, five, years old, that if they could, you know they would, they would look at their parents and say, would you people just shut up? Would you just sit down and shut up? I am so tired of listening to you bicker back and forth and pull me like a rope and this divorce and do drugs and I just the young kids that don't have a voice I really feel for what about like actually this is a real question I want to ask you what's your opinion on

Adderall prescription drugs I'm serious prescription drugs Adderall I'm saying kids I think kids nowadays take that stuff I just don't get how what his answer how does that create that question Bob just came here to get advice from Dr. Phil and he doesn't want to say it like you just want a one-on-one

This is all anything he asks you about himself if you wanted to one-on-one with Dr. Phil how much does that run an hour for the average person? Is it like, what about, well, no, let's not say the hour. You don't have that much money. I got a better question. You're not the average person, by the way. Your issues are way deeper than the average.

All right, so to your point. I mean, I want to know how much somebody could come to you and ask. Probably for you a hundred grand. I can't afford that. Let's stay on what he's talking about right now. So to your point about like children having to deal with, obviously, the circumstances because they can't just go, I have new parents tomorrow, right? how do kids find a way through that?

Is it good to just go seek professional help? Because their parents, a lot of times probably wouldn't even want to admit the fact that they're sort of parents, right? So how do you even, like, navigate that as a kid? You know, every guest that I have on the show that I've had on for 20 plus years is a teaching tool. You know, you talk to the people that are there. You try to get through to them.

But they're really a teaching tool for the millions of people that are watching that aren't there and you hope that somebody at home will say you know wow um he ain't talking to me but i do an awful lot of what that couple's doing yeah and man i need to stop doing that i mean that's that's my hope is that by having that couple there and using them to as a teaching tool these other people will go, God, that's embarrassing. I wonder if my kids are having the same response. And because I've had tens of thousands of letters that write in and say, they didn't get it, but I do.

I saw myself in them, and they were hard-headed and they didn't get it, but I got it. Thank you. I will change what I'm doing. I didn't realize, when I saw my mom. myself and her I thought oh my god why don't you shut up yeah and I mean sometimes the worst guest that don't get it there is just one ear and out the other are the best teaching tools because people go oh my god I sound exactly like her and watching her I realize how horrible I must

be that that's actually let's talk about the parents too because you've dealt with about everybody so how much have you learned from kids with messed up situations on how to raise a kid you've seen all these problems with the household like and how do we fix that to answer your question and i'm not just saying this because it's a thing to say i i honest to god learn something every time i do a show something sticks to me that i use the next time and i've often said i'm really fortunate in that i feel like everything i've ever done has prepared me for what I'm now doing, which wouldn't be the case if I spent five years selling shrimp out of a van down by the river. That wouldn't have really prepared me for what I'm now doing, but because I've always kind of been in the same interacting with people

dealing with human functioning. It's all built on itself. So I'll probably be the most competent today I quit. Well, it's always the way it is. You have the most experienced today you retire what kind of like dynamic or family situation have you seen causes the most kind of issues is like single mother or you know the absence of of of two uh parents in the home is a big deal like having daddy like honest the true thing or like having daddy issues is that was like is a

real thing for girls i think either or not being i think just single parent that's funny it's a real question yeah having a single parents that's a hardest job in the world yeah really is really tough because you can't you can't do both jobs and it's you see you see single mothers that kind of move a boyfriend in after so long and the incidents of sex abuse or child abuse combined with a non-biological male living in the home is 33 times normal 33 times normal it just goes hugely up well what have you noticed is the best like if there's two parents in the home usually the kids gonna have better uh just social

awareness and like to have a outcome yeah a better outcome or is that not always the case no i i do i i do think that um having two parents in the home you have better coverage you have a male and voice for boys a female voice for girls and a male voice for girls and a male for girls and female like my boys I said they grew up really well I can think back to when they were in seventh eighth and ninth grade and they were calling a girl to go to a school dance or something their mother would come in there and say to you call her the day of the dance and tell her how excited you are about to I would have never thought to them go in here and call tell her how excited you

are tonight they go well I'm not I don't care if you are not you call her and tell her how excited you are and then the morning after and tell her what a great time you had. Well, it was boring. I didn't like it. Well, I don't care. You call her and tell her what a great time you had and how much you appreciate her.

You know, she taught him how to treat women. With respect. With respect is what you do always. That's my, that's my biggest. I do not talk to anybody or shut the fuck up, Stine. Relax. Listen, I will not, I won't do business with anybody and I won't hang with anybody

if I see anybody be disrespectful to women. That's it. That's my biggest pet pee. Bro, he blasted. She deserved to be blasted. That's a certain extent to do that. And stop bringing that shit up. That's subjective.

Well, everyone saw it. As you could tell, he's got the most problems out of everybody here. Yeah. No, I'm just the most excited to be here. You have a read on this guy or no? I think he has read on. I think he needs more than just you, my friend. I'm building a portfolio over here.

I got a question in regards to the idea, not the idea, the fact about the family unit how important it is for like children in development. Brad. What's that? You go ahead. Yeah. In regards to like the world today, because like, it's somewhat of a mess. at least in Western society, as far as, like, the family unit and the sort of attack on it,

do you think that, like, that's going to get better or worse because of social media? And I think it's got, my personal opinion, has gotten worse through social media. But I want to hear your thoughts on that. Thank you, Barbara Walters. We appreciate it. Yeah. Back to you. I think it's getting worse.

Yeah. And I think social media is, look, we know that being on social media so much interferes with quality time with family. But not only that, it actually targets the mental health of the young people on it. The algorithm on social media is designed to attack the mental health of the young kids that are on it because the more upset they get, the more they click. I mean, that's a fact. I mean, the internal documents from the major companies has revealed that that, that they know that that it makes them anxious and the more anxious they are the more they click

you can show them a box of puppies and they go oh that's cute and they click for a little bit but if you show those puppies being abused they'll click more yeah that makes them anxious it makes them upset uh but you you can you can open an account with a young girl's name and within three minutes she's getting toxic content pumped her way. You can add two words to that name instead of just being Lauren, you can put Lauren lose weight in the title, and the amount of toxic content that's pumped towards her goes up 10 or 12 fold because the algorithm picks up,

oh, okay, they start pumping her 400 calorie diets, 700 calorie diets, Anorexic sites. Ozampic. Start pumping all of this stuff into her account, which feeds her anxiety, makes her sick, and because she keeps clicking more. And they know it makes her unhealthy, but she clicks more. So it's like, well, we're going to make her unhealthy. We'll make more money.

I think it's going to get better. So the algorithm just keeps going. What's the solution to that then? People aren't going to stop using social media. What do you think is the appropriate age that a kid should really be on social media? I don't think they should get on there before they're 16 or 18 years old if you want to, if you're concerned about their mental health, they should not be on there. But it's impossible to prevent, though.

How do you prevent that as a parent from the kids getting on there then? Well, you can start putting authentication on the sites and parents can start being parents. Oh, all right. That would have to come from like a government regulation, right? No, you don't need the government in your life. But who's going to, like, the social media companies aren't going to do that on the ground. I would like literally if my kid, I would be a tough dad.

So you're saying the parents just don't let them use it until that age. Right. And these companies need to be held accountable. You've got 23% of the population tweets or exes, whatever you call, tweeting now. 40% are on Instagram, 60% are on Facebook the public has power they stop using that until they clean up what they're doing there is market power the the population has power if they just say you clean it up or we're out and I guarantee you they'll clean it up but why just

there's an awful lot of America that doesn't wield power but they can I mean you saw what happened when they decided they don't like what the company's doing they can boycott them not buy their products and have a multi-billion dollar impact in a matter of months they can get the attention of those companies they don't need the government to come and do it that's true if the government would stay the hell out of things people work it out it seems like would you agree it's probably harder now than ever to be a parent in today's society well it probably seems harder but there's certainly more challenges now than there were in the 50s there's more ways to

have your child attacked and exploited it's got it's crazy now though but like parents are on social media too bro it's so easy nowadays to cheat in school like imagine i don't know i'm my age like with all this like chat gpg stuff like i'm still the most entertaining fighter that's ever stepped in that octagon and i think i will go down as that what's up guys just to highlight Gachi here, current BMF title holder, soon to be, undisputed, 155-pound champ. Let's go. After fights, I take three or four weeks

and really kind of rest my body, rest my mind, and really kind of get rejuvenated to really get back in there and work as hard as I need to. But, you know, outside of that, I like to play golf as much as possible. And I'm just getting my backyard done, so I'm super excited about this Happy Dad partnership so I can host my friends and, family and have some drinks on some ice.

It's official, Justin the Highlight Gaichi and Happy Dad Seltzer in the same camp, ready to defend this belt as the baddest motherfucking Seltzer in the world. Let's go. What's your policy on, like, education at the college level, too? I think those are questions, Stunny. What do you mean my policy? No, like, you agree, like, college is important? Or, like, it seems like people now are trying to, all these entrepreneurs are trying to bash, like,

you know you don't need college you can start your life earlier I've employed as many as a thousand people at a time in the past and I always had a policy that if I had two people there that were matched in every way age intelligence experience and one had a college degree and the other didn't that was the only difference I would tend to hire the one with a college degree because I knew something about them I didn't know about the other one I knew they could set a long-term goal. I knew they could get along with people and work together on projects. I knew they could get along with some jerk authority figure. You know, you just knew

things about them that you didn't know about somebody else. Maybe the other could too, but you didn't know that. You knew that about a college graduate. I don't know that anymore because now you've got a generation of students that are thin-skinned. They whine if they get assignments. They don't like they go complain they go complain that well i've i've been injured i've been damaged i've uh we've had more professors disciplined suspended or fired um in this last generation than since the mccarthy era yeah when everybody was the red scare um and we've got colleges now that are teaching that they're not talking about toxic master They're talking about the fact that masculinity is toxic.

They're teaching a quality of outcome instead of people learning how to compete and hustle and get out there and be entrepreneurial. We're turning out people, in my opinion, that are not qualified to survive in a dog-eat-dog world. And I'm concerned about that. You talk a lot about that in your book, right? Do you think this is by design? Do you think it's like it's on purpose? Well, I think we have a disproportionate number of really liberal professors at universities

that adhere to that kind of mentality. Yeah. Why do you think? No, that's not only the participation. Why do I think what? Why is there so many, like, why are all those teachers like liberal? Well, I think they don't want to compete in the, I think they don't want to compete in the marketplace,

so they go get a job where you don't have to compete. It's safe in the university environment. You know, you used to go to the university, that's where you hear other points of view. Now they have what we call the heckler's veto. Somebody comes with a different point of view. You just yell and boo them down instead of listening to what they have to say. You might disagree with it, but instead of debating them or hearing it and then deciding you don't agree with it, they just protest and get them thrown off campus. What the hell is that all about?

You're supposed to hear the other side and decide, okay, I don't like that. Well, all right, but at least hear them out. Why do you think it's happening? Like, why do you think it's happening? Well, we're not teaching critical thinking. We're not teaching debate. We're not saying, listen to the other side. Wave both sides and make up your mind.

If you disagree, say so. But you've got to hear them before you disagree. Right. How do you know? Is this all in your book? It is. Okay. Where do I get the book?

Because I don't read, but I'm going to read your book. Barnes & Noble, Amazon. It's probably everywhere. Everywhere in the world. Everywhere. where books are sold. You talk about meritocracy. Wait, wait, hold on.

No way you've ever read a book, Bob. I talk a lot about meritocracy because I think this country was built on hard work. And, you know, now, you know, the most fundamental principle of psychology is don't reward bad behavior, right? If you have a child throwing a tantrum in the floor at the grocery store because they want candy, you don't race up and go, oh, great tantrum. Here's a piece of candy. You don't reward bad behavior, but we're doing that as a country. We're paying people not to work.

But we're also doing that on social media at large. So, like, how is it? What other ways are we doing that? Wait, what's an example of that where you were saying? How are we rewarding bad behavior? Welfare. Attention. Well, let's look at it this way.

We don't even call felons, felons anymore. We don't call rapists, rapists. Don't call murderers, murderers. They're now called justice-involved individuals. so we've got certain divisions of the justice department where you your your loved one wasn't murdered they intersected with a justice involved individual because we don't want to label that person and hurt their feelings yeah i was reading the story this weekend somebody was somebody's daughter was murdered and the alleged perpetrator had 21

counts against them nine felony assaults and all of them they were processed and released this person was out under the no bail and what state was that and they killed them again sounds like California now they say now recently they say unalived like someone will get killed and they say unaligned and it's like dude that guy was murdered like they're trying to change the entire narrative almost college some of the colleges don't even have an admissions office anymore because it implies somebody could be rejected and that would be negative to them so they now call it office of enrollment management they're just trying to make everyone I don't get it well seriously I mean they're we're so overreacting and a lot of the colleges use trigger warnings we're going to warn you if there's going to be something upsetting in this course there was one that has a trigger warning for Romeo and Juliet. Trigger warning involves violence and suicide.

Well, spoiler alert, I mean, that's a Shakespearean classic. It's been around forever. If nobody didn't already know it, you told them that there's going to be a suicide at the end. No more cliffhanger there. That's crazy. And here's the thing. trigger warnings don't work there's a whole body of literature that says trigger warnings don't work these universities are they have access to the same research that i have access to that says

trigger warnings don't work so why are they using them if they have access to the same literature i do well they're virtue signaling they're saying hey we're very sensitive over here so we'll let you know anything's going to upset you. The problem is the world doesn't use trigger warnings. You're not going to have somebody come up to you in the world and say, hey, when you turn the next corner, there could be something there that upsets you. So we're just out here on the sidewalk letting people know. That's not how it works. So why do that in colleagues? Why don't you teach them to go on red and stop on green and then give them the keys to a car? Because that's not the way the world works. You need to teach them how the world works, and we're not doing that.

Why do you think we're not doing that, though, genuinely? Because I understand completely what you're saying. I think we all get it. Yeah. I think a lot of people, now the days that you talk to, agree with that. Yeah, it was like, what's going on? Well, it's also like, do you think teachers have too much power to speak freely on topics they shouldn't? Well, they're certainly getting away from the course outline if they're in there talking about all of these things like toxic masculinity in an art history class.

What the hell does that have to do with art history? but they have a captive audience, and they have their political agenda, so they're pushing it on to these students. And I always wondered if their idea is we're going to have a quality of outcome, then why am I spending a quarter million dollars to get an elite education? If everybody's going to have the same outcome, if the guy that sits home in a beanbag eating Cheetos all day, it's going to get the same outcome as somebody out here busting their...

Are there certain schools that do it better? Then why do I need to pay you for this elite education? That seems hypocritical to me. Are there certain schools that do it better, Dr. Phil? Are there certain schools that do it better than others? Of course. Some of them that are really woke and run this agenda, you know, I've seen, you know, Harvard,

says they're all about free speech but they're not they rated I think 252 out of 252 on free speech they don't allow other viewpoints I've seen that like with clips that go viral of like a teacher let's just say for instance in a middle school there's a pride flag in a room or she's talking about something in a parent shows up and they're like who are you to tell my kid or talk to my kid that's something I should handle so how do you kind of fix that issue where the teachers are like preaching to your kid about something that probably isn't even something they should discuss i mean that did santa's passed something in florida about that well you got to decide do you want to co-parent with some

teacher or do you want to raise your own child and most of the teachers let me tell you i think teachers are the most dedicated bunch of people you could ever find they're underpaid overworked they don't want to do most of them just want to teach it's the teacher's unions that are running these agendas and pushing all this stuff into the curriculum and then trying to hide

it from parents but you think it's just like just the person by person teacher by teacher who's just because they're in that role and then they're just pushing their sort of like political ideology through their class or like you think it's a reason for it no I think it's the teacher's unions what do you think about like kids like I'm looking back when I was in college to

there's so much pressure when you're like 22 or 23 to have what am I going to do the rest of my life everyone else is so successful by 24 if I'm not successful I'm a loser like you ever deal with people like that that just have no idea what they want to do in life in general I think a lot of people don't know what they want to do when they're 22 or 24 there's a phenomenon now called doom spenders this is the first generation that they predict won't do as well as their parents and they say they're not going to be able to afford a mortgage. They're going to be able to get a house. Not going to do as well as their parents. And so these, this, it's called doomspenders to say, what the hell? I might

as well just blow it. Just go spend my money and not worry about the future because I can't get there. There's no way to get there. So I'll just live for the moment. And that's a pretty fatalistic point. What's really changed, though? What's really changed to cause this? Because it wasn't like this i feel like internet is a part of this well because like inflation's pretty bad that yeah obviously yeah do you golf pro i can't i start to feel he's a golfer are you a golfer i have clubs you don't play well you don't play well yeah no i don't play well i play well i play well i are you into pickleball no what do you do for fun outside of uh helping people with their lives i play tennis about 300 days a year so do i yeah so do i have your game yeah how's your tennis game

well i'm consistent i show up every day That's important. Is that your big talentist tennis in the athletic world? Well, I enjoy it. Yeah. I mean, I enjoy playing. Who's your favorite tennis player of all time? I like Federer, and I like, I like Jokovic.

Most people don't like him, but I like him, actually. You watch sports? Yeah. What's your favorite sport to watch? I like football. Who's your team? Well, I like the Cowboys. I like them every Sunday morning.

I quit them every Sunday night. What's the deal? like really what's the deal with the cowboys how are they always the favorite everyone loves them and they just man every year they let everyone down every fan god they have a great image yeah yeah you they're the america's team they just suck they are they got great talent they got a great image it's been a long time do you ever work with like high profile athletes do they ever call you and i know you probably can't name names or like that but do you ever do you ever have high high profile people call you and ask you to sit down with them?

Any one in particular? No. He couldn't get them, folks, we missed. Going off that, does it bother you ever that people just, instead of wanting to just like be your friend or talk about other stuff, they just come to you only for advice about their life? No, I have people contact me, and I always tell them, look, I don't do that. I don't work with people one-on-one anymore, and I tell them, look, I'll talk to you one

time to figure out what I think you need and I'll direct you to the right kind of resource and that's what I do but I don't I don't take anybody on and work them through a problem sometimes it's pretty simple we should play a tennis match me versus you and then winner if I win you get I get three hours of counseling and then if you win I don't know what I can offer Dr. Phil but What would you want if I'd be? Probably not a whole lot. What? Because I know I would smoke Dr. Phil and tennis.

Staying basketball jersey. Yeah. I would smoke Dr. Philin tennis. Yeah, you think so? I think so. I don't think so. I don't play as much as you. 300 days.

It's a lot. You probably dust you. Yeah. I don't know. Be good match. If you ever want to. I'm twice your age. You'd have to give me some kind of.

We'd handicap it a little bit. Yeah, we'd tie a chair to your leg or something. Yeah. I think you start at like 30 love every game. I'll sell 100,000 copies of your book. If you beat me. and I won't stop until I'll figure away Steinie stay out of this is my negotiation with Dr. Phil that's a huge promise 100,000 copies what was it like working with paper back in the day

Oprah's great I mean she's really really great we've been friends for 35 years now I guess and people ask me sometimes is she as nice as she seems and always say no she's not she's not big enough to capture her she's really the real deal how did how did that relationship start was it you were you were a psychologist for like a defense team for her right yeah she got sued uh up in amarillo for a mad cow case okay and um i was on her defense team is that what got you into the show business yeah i had no i had no designs on being on television at all why do you think why do you think people took to you so much Yeah, I think that people know the truth when they hear it, don't you think?

Absolutely. I mean, if somebody's got a problem with their health or got a bad diagnosis or something, people come by and pat them on the hand, oh, you're going to be fine. You'll be okay. Fake. And if somebody comes along and says, okay, look, let's figure this out here. It's either A or it's B or it's C. And if it's A, we're going to do this.

If it's B, we'll do this. If it's C, we'll do this. And, you know, I'll help you navigate it one way or the other. So it is what it is, and we'll do what we have to do. So let's just wrap our head around it and walk through it. They're going to, they hear that. The rest of it's noise. They say, okay, this guy's telling me the truth.

And I hear it. And they value that. They don't value the, oh, you'll be fine, honey. that's an insult and I think people are that way in general if somebody tells them the truth whether it's what they want to hear or not they find that refreshing in a world full of a and I think that's what happened when I went on the air I told people the truth and it was kind of shocking a bit but I think they found it refreshing there's like here's somebody that's not Hollywood they're not pandering to the camera they're They're not trying to be political. They're just telling you the truth. And I told Oprah that the first time I went on.

I said, look, I'll come do what I do. If you can cut up into television, that's fine. If you can't, I was busy when I got here. Yeah. And if people like it, that's fine. If they don't, I could care less. It doesn't make any difference to me. Do people come up to you a lot in public?

Yeah. Did you like it or hate it? Well, I'm very appreciative of people that are supportive. Right. I do. I hate people that, you know, work, work, work, work to get known or get followers and then act like they're too good to talk to them. Oh, really? Prime example. Sorry, go back to you, Dr. Phil.

Who's the thing? Yeah, yeah, he's the worst. I've always seen people come up to him all the time. I've always appreciated that. Buddy, who the fuck are you? Go ahead. I've never done that one time. I've always appreciated that.

So most people are very respectful. Do you have, obviously, you've affected a lot of people's lives and you've changed a lot of people's lives. Do you have, like, one certain scenario that really, like, hit home for you, or it was like, whoa, what I was able to accomplish with someone who was really beat up and changed their lives? I just try to give people, put people on the path, and then I've seen people do amazing things, but it's them that does it, not me. The work starts after they leave me. Yeah. You know, I just point them in the right direction. You had to guess what percent of people actually take what you give them and go with it.

Well, I think a lot. Yeah, I think by the time people get to me, they're really ready. You know, they're really ready. You watch movies? Sometimes. Yeah. You ever seen Roadhouse? Oh, yeah.

You seen Roadhouse the movie? Yeah. The new one? Oh, I saw part of that. No, there's an old one. You said, what? You only saw part of Roaldos? The remake was not as good as the past guy.

the new roadhouse movie it's like broke all records on Amazon Yeah The remake I don't know The classic was a lot better Going back to what he's talking about Because he had a He had a scene in the new roadhouse movie

On Amazon Prime How important is it to stay humble And really just like Have that gratitude and appreciate stuff Like because recently he He wasn't a movie with Jake Gyllenhaal And he won't stop talking about it It's called marketing the movie

It's called marketing the movie No but I mean how important is that To just stay humble and keep appreciating success, what you've been able to accomplish? Well, my experience has been if you're not humble, somebody will humble you. Yeah.

So I think it's easier to just stay there so you don't get put there. You think you could humble him really quick? I think you're doing a pretty good job. Yeah, he's doing a great job. Have Steinie humbled me, see what happens. Have you seen all this weird coming out about what was going on behind the scenes of Nickelodeon?

Yeah, I've seen some of it. But I've never really watched Nickelodeon, so I didn't know a lot of those people or the abusers either, alleged abusers either. You got a little cocktail there, huh? Is it a cocktail? What's that? Is that a cocktail? That's iced tea. Oh. Going off.

I was going to say, I thought I were like turning up with Dr. Phil a little bit here. One thing going off with Kyle just said, obviously there's a lot of shit going on about a bunch of things. Is this something like, I mean, you just see all this sexual activity and all this stuff. Is this something that you think happens when people get that power and that money and that access? Or do they have that with them? Well, sexual abuse is always about power. It's never about sex. So what I'm trying to say is, are these people completely fucked up before?

They acquire that success and they're around all these people, or does that just happen once you get to that level? Well, that's a pretty broad question. I think you have to answer that on a case-by-case basis, but there's always a power factor involved. always I mean rape is always about power not sex it's always about power yeah so what I'm trying to say is like you think once they get to that point that's when it really kicks in and it's more of like a power trip book club on Monday gym on Tuesday date night on Wednesday out on the town on Thursday Quiet night in on Friday it's good to have a routine

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Well, it's a serious. It's true. You aren't hearing a lot of going on right now. I think it's awful. Like P. Diddy's going through right now. That's like a huge thing. I agree. Yeah, how tapped in are you in with like all the stuff

that's happening kind of in the world on social? media and like are you are you watching this stuff daily like you trying to you know learn from it or no unless it gets put on my radar in some way i don't deep dive on all that stuff unless it gets on my radar yeah and by the get on my radar i mean if lawyers victims or perpetrators contact me to get involved in some way which is not unusual yeah to be involved in something like that. Then I get, you know, then I study it and find out what's going on. But I certainly don't, uh, my research is not social media. I find out, you know, I go to the court. I get the pleadings. I find out what's going on. Um, I sure don't find out from social media

because who knows. That's true. What's, yeah. Oh my God. You can't even, you can't even tell what's real or fake anymore. No, you really can't. I saw an ad the other day where I was selling a product. Well, you were selling the product. Yeah, it was me holding the product, selling it, talking about it, never seen it, never heard of it, nothing. But it was immediate cease and desist, right? Oh, immediate. These go out. You don't fuck with Dr. Phil. You don't fuck with Dr. Phil. Everybody looked at this camera right now. I sent out dozens of these things a month. Usually it's just ads that's got my picture in it, selling some something. But this was a deep fake with voice and...

The worst. The worst. Now they have the AI voices. Yeah. But there's no preventing that, right? There's no preventing that, right? And it's just going that way. And as soon as you go after them, you know, they'll shut down.

Just open it in one. Pop up across the street with a new corporate name. Yeah. Different product or same product. It's like playing whack-a-mo. Right. You know, you just... Do you go to...

That's a good game. You ever play Wagamol? That's actually a good. That used to be my go-to game. What's going on? What do you mean? You're so random right now. It's on purpose?

How many times have you been, like, faced with the situation? Have you been, and how many times have you been faced with the situation where you're just like, I don't know what to do here? It's happening right now. Besides Bob. You get situations where you realize that there's no good way out of a bad situation. I mean, sometimes you just can't. particularly if you've got somebody that has

organically based psychosis or something, there's nothing you can do about it. So do you let them know? Bro, this is low-key call, we've got issues. What's organically based psychosis? Well, if you've got somebody

that's got brain damage and their neurotransmitters are all scrambled up. Shut the fuck up. Not you, Dr.ville. I didn't tell you, show the fuck. To Kyle. This is, I'm gonna actually,

this is a, we've got issues. How long has this book been out for? read that. I swear on my life I'm going to read this book. That's a real wager. If you could go page to end on that book. I'm going to read this. Out of respect for Dr. Phil coming in here, because I know Dr. Phil took time out of his busy schedule to come and be here. This is one thing

I'm going to do. I always do something special for my guests. Yeah, that's 104,000 words. Number one, New York Times, bestselling author. So what's the process of writing a book? You're not sitting there typing in a typewriter at night, obviously, so you relay it? Because they think a lot of people want to write books nowadays right like you always want to write a book how what's the process of

writing a book like this like who's your team how does this get done um i write every word in every book i've ever done wow and how many books have you put out now 10 which one's your favorite that one's probably my favorite second is called self matters third would be life code that's pretty sick do you ever think there's going to be a time in your life where you're just going to be over all this just want to focus more on yourself than other people's problems? Yeah, I'm sure that time's coming, but I can't, I can't see retiring. I think I would go. You're never leaving a game. You're never leaving the game. That's a question, right? What are you going to do if you retire? That's, I mean, I think that would be, no. It's like, I love ice cream,

but I wouldn't want to have it for breakfast, lunch, and dinner. So if you retire and play golf and tennis and or something it's like oh man i i think i'd get so bored of that in a fast hurry i got to have a challenge you know something to go do well i got i got a challenge for you so stearney over here has trouble picking up women it's plain simple and i'm not going to say this too he is the worst at picking up women i i'm very good at him how are you off of what what do you think dr phil for a guy like him because he's obviously if you look at him you scare a lot of chicks. Buddy, you have no idea what you're talking about.

I think the main thing is just confidence and just... Bring it over, please. I like, oh, yes. The audio book. No, no, hold on here. Let me just finish on this before you. There's an audio book version of Dr. Phil's. There is an audio version.

That's good for cardio sessions. Actually, that's better. I would rather listen. That's an easier way to do this with the book. That's the only way you do it. That's the only way I would do it. The audio version is the only way I would do it. That's the way we do it.

Okay, cool. So back to Stiney, do you have any advice for him, Dr. Phil, being an expert of what you're at. Since I watch him on the daily go up to all these girls, he fails every single time and I see him walk around like this. We'll just say for the general guy

because I don't have that issue, but we'll just say for that man right there. Any advice how to pick up women. Well, you understand. I haven't been on a date with a new girl in 51 years. Well, here's a better question. Wow, you guys have so many problems.

I actually, wait, hold on, really quick. I actually took his ex out recently, but really quick, how do you know when you find right girl oh you know yeah you know just know right away yeah you know you know you know I got right then I guess I'm not there question all right obviously after talking to you for some time now it's clear like the your ideologies around like meritocracy and how you focus and shift and like change your life and structure your life how did who taught you that was it just

to all your experiences yeah read this you have like did you have a strong parental figures in your life that made you this way or like how did you how do you what do you attribute your success doing that well i grew up really poor yeah i mean really poor and um when you grow up poor you you're really results oriented and uh because when you grow up poor if you don't like if you don't work today and get paid today you don't eat then you don't eat today yeah when you grow up that way and realize if if you don't get if you don't do some work and get paid for it today you're not going to eat today and if you spend time you know homeless on the street where you don't have anywhere to live then you realize if you want to create shelter you better find some

work to pay somebody to let you stay somewhere and that puts a pretty good work ethic in you at a real fast hurry and my dad was a real bad alcoholic and our house was really chaotic and so you become really self-sufficient at a very early age and so I mean I threw paper routes and had jobs from the time I was like 12 or 13 years old Because I had to, because you get, like, hungry. And I had to contribute to the family. You know, I had sisters and a mother and stuff, so I had to work to put money on the table so people could eat.

And, you know, we didn't have utilities and stuff on in the house some of the time and all, so you, you know, you just realize there's no victim. It's not like you go say I'm a victim. anybody gives it if you're a victim or not you want you get what you get it's just that simple i agree to give me anything so i go out create whatever i create what what's the biggest advice you'd give that kid down knowing what you know now and the landscape's so different now so yeah but people love to play victim nowadays that's the most yeah listen nobody wants to hear your whining i don't care what they say to your face um you got to you got to you got to do and you know at

at the time, you don't realize that you, you don't walk around saying, oh, you know, I'm poor, I got it. You know, at the time, you just do what you do. You don't walk around thinking, I'm the poor kid. You just do what you do. You look back later and realize you were the poorest kid in the block or the poorest kid in the school, but at the time, you're just living, you're just getting by, you don't have time to think about that. Now, that's all people do is think about that.

How can I be a victim? And how can I get somebody to come in and give me money, take care of me, do whatever. That doesn't even, people that sit around think about how they can create some kind of new victimhood. You know, poor doesn't scare me. I've done poor. I know how to do poor. So it's never scared me. And so I've never played the game with sweaty palms.

So I get in business or get in a business deal. I don't get nervous about it because I, you know, you know, I don't worry about it because it'll work, it won't work. Because being the victim and escape for wanting to put in hard work. Of course it is. It's an excuse. It's like you want the government to come in and take care of you, but anybody to take care of you.

That's a myth. There's no old sayings get to be old sayings because they're profound. And, you know, like a stitch in time, saves nine, all that kind of. That old saying, there's no free lunch. Let me tell you, the government comes in, and puts people on assistance and does this and does that. That's not a free lunch because it steals people's self-esteem. It steals their self-worth.

It steals their initiative. And it steals their future. That is not a free lunch. It's very expensive to depend on the government. Yeah. They know a lot of shit. What about aliens? You think aliens exist?

I don't care. I'm switching subjects. I want to know Dr. Phil's take because I feel like he's low-key connected. You believe in aliens? No. You don't? When he stares at me like that. It is wild, though.

How many? That's a good stare down. Yeah. Do you have any, wait, let's see. Do you want to ask an educated question real quick? Let's get one. I think he gets asked educated questions every day. That's what he's done to the last three.

I think it's fun sometimes to switch it up a little bit and let's ask some different questions. Okay, go ahead. Go ahead. Go one more. I just think that I was, would you go to space? I like that question. I'm not going to lie. Oh, do you, Brad?

I like that one. Would you go to space? I wouldn't do one of these things where you go up for like four or four minutes and come back down. Have people done that? The risk reward ratio is not there. You'd want to go up there and chill for a little bit. I mean, if I'm going to go, I'm going to go to the space station or something and spend some time to be able to experience it. But just, I'd rather go on a roller coaster than just go up and come back down.

You like roller coars? You like roller coars? No. I mean, they're okay. But, I mean, I'd just soon do that. I just go blast up and come right back down. But if you go to, like, a theme park, are you going on a roller coaster? Sure.

Oh, okay. So what are your, I can't do that? What are some of your personal biggest fears? Something happened to one of my kids. What's yours? That's deep. Yeah, when we go around. Mine's like sharks.

You go ahead and you actually tackle that one first. Sharks are terrifying. I'm scared of sharks. Well, you live in Miami. I know. Well, I don't go deep. I go in, but I don't go, like, super, super deep. Well, you've seen their fin.

I've never seen a fan. If I seen a fin, I'd show myself. Bro, we did nine days. I deserted myself nine days on an island with my buddy to catch a great white shark. What's your biggest? My biggest fear? Someone banging your girl? Someone banging your girl.

We don't know that. Probably like 20 years in state prison. That'd be pretty bad. That's, okay. Jail's a big fear of mine, too. 20 years in the state. Yeah, jails. Not federal.

Federal is easier. I think probably a common one's like for normal people's just being a failure in life. Would you agree with that? I think that was his fear. That's why I said it that way. That's good. Well, number one fear among all people is failure. Yeah.

And there's sentence for that, like rejection or whatever. But rejection is failure. It means the world doesn't want what you want. So that's rejection. That's failure. If your business fails, it means the world rejected what you had to offer. What's the scariest thing you've ever done in your life? I chase tornadoes, but back to you.

You've never done that. I've chased multiple. I think the better question. I asked Dr. Full. what's the biggest risk you've ever taken well those are two questions what's the scariest thing i've ever done exactly thank you steiny sorry he's a you know what is the scariest thing you've ever done walked one of my sons into surgery for something they didn't know what was and um they thought

it could be something really really bad did it end up all right yeah good good to hear yeah that's scary that counts what's your biggest bet not being able to do 225 yeah like not not being able to hit $2.25 for reps on the bench, I think. I'm being really honest. Steinie was, what's your big spirit? Not being on the bench $2.25. Like for reps. Two plates.

Like at some point, you know, I'll probably have to face that. Not in a long time, though. Stiney, having a girl while you're laying down on the bed for the first time last week. Why is $225 important to you? Why is $225? It's kind of like a, it's kind of like a benchmark for like being a solid gym bro. Two plates? Two plates.

Even just for one, for most guys. Did you on it? Yes, Sonny? $2.25? No, I did $1.85 with you once. Yeah, it's good. You work out? Yeah, I did that in college a lot. Did you ever bench $225 for reps?

Uh-huh. I'm actually really curious. Uh-huh. I believe that. You're like actually big than I thought you were going to be. I'm not going to lie. Yeah. When I was in college, my arms were a half inch bigger than my neck.

Really? Yeah. Were you a gym, bro? I was a linebacker. Oh. Oh, shit. Oklahoma. Oklahoma drill, I think.

Do you have a biggest regret in life, if any? Not yet. Not yet. What about do you pay attention to the March Madness? I haven't this year. I usually do, but I haven't this year because I'm starting to network and it's kind of been a little time-consuming. Yeah.

What are you excited for about like the old show compared to the new network? Yeah, prime time. I'm really proud of the 21 years we did. Amazing job. Amazing job. I really am. And I'm really proud of my relationship with CBS. You know, we're still in business together.

They're running a lot of my library episodes again for another year. They did last year, and they're doing it again this next year. And I've got one of the top dramas on in their primetime lineup. So help me, Todd, is on in primetime. And we've got another one about to start. and but I wanted that was I was on an hour a week I mean an hour a day five days a week and now I've got 24 hours a day seven days a week as a network and I've got four hours of news that I can communicate through I'm not going to be an anchor on the news but I

can you know communicate through the news and my show's on in prime time so I can speak to a broader section of the audience because everybody's most everybody's home from work and where can people watch you know you can go to merit streetmedia.com and there's a button there it says channel finder and you hit that and put in your zip code that list every way you can look where you can watch it oh so it's a whole network so you're going to have different shows on your network now like uh we've got other talent that's a whole different business yeah like Steve harvey's on the network and uh oh wow uh nancy grace is on the network and uh bear grills is on the network and uh chris harrison nancy grace she's got a show she's aggressive we should get a show on marriage

yeah yeah we'll put you on there is it is it is it all like news oriented or is it like lifestyle no there's entertainment lifestyle there's all different kinds of things on there it's um uh it's news and entertainment it's essential news and entertainment we want to make television you can use yeah you know things that you know impact your life do you invest a lot a couple different projects outside of television what's one that's a hit we've done okay this is completely random but uh what kind of music do you listen to i think everything's been random in this thing so far what's your favorite band of all time um well i'm an oldie's guy so it's like the stones yeah i like the temptations i like the four tops um

I like the Jonas Brothers. That's a random one. I didn't see that coming. They're amazing. What's your track, Brandon up? I like all of, I like their really early songs. I like their. Like camp rock?

Yeah. That was, I was much younger then, but I love that. I love their songs now. You ever bump a little, Lil Durk? What? Lil Durk? No. No.

I like Little Durk. No. There's a lot, all these, everybody has, there's all these new generation rappers now. Like all, like, all the, you know, everybody's like a rapper now. Yeah. Well, I have a question for you. Uh-huh. If you could change one thing in 2024, what would it be?

Brad, you start because you probably have for long. You can change one thing in 2024. How much more time do you have before Brad goes? It's going to be two or three minutes. That's funny. That's good. I would just say for people to just get along more, probably. for you personally though I'd say I'd say not to be so impulsive that's my it would be mine not to be so impulsive I mean dude I think it comes down to the same thing you were saying earlier about like just feeling like I'm good enough about myself like just being good enough and in a lot of circumstances right because like there's just certain times when it's like I wish I had done things differently I wish I had like acted or had a conversation before it was a problem I think just generally just being like more open to that sort of conversation before it becomes a bigger problem you know and like

just yeah the question honestly for people is just focus on yourself believe in yourself and don't give a fuck about other people what they think about you I thought he meant specifically for ourselves I mean it any way you want to answer okay go ahead Bob I already did

impulse like you know not make late night 4 a.m. posts and going wild what about you you know that the book I've written we've got issues is really a book about unification, because, you know, I list in there 10 things that I think are important for a healthy society, because I think we forget that we're all Americans.

Everybody's so divided. And I'm really proud of this country. I'm proud to be an American. Oh, yeah. And people forget that. You know, we're all Americans. And if, you know, I spend a lot of time. I'm in the litigation arena. Like I was saying, that's how I met Oprah. And I always tell people if I'm negotiating with somebody, the first thing I do, and I even say this to teenagers that are negotiating with their parents for a different curfew

or something, or if you're negotiating country to country or whatever, first thing you should always do is sit down and say, let's make a list of everything we agree on first. and then we can talk about things we don't agree on people don't do that enough i mean if you first say what's our common ground we wouldn't be nearly as divided as we are right now every like think about what i think the media amplifies that they do because it sells tickets but if you think about it we all want a solid america right we all want a solid country want a prosperous country want a safe country we want a better country for our kids you know we want you think about it we all want so many of the

same things we want everybody to be prosperous we want everybody to be secure we want all of that the only things we disagree about pretty much or how we all want the same things it's just what's the best way to get there people they spend so much time picking at differences instead of focusing on what we agree on and I want everybody to do well I have to tell you it's actually funny you say that we did Dana recently Dana White and he said that yeah I know Dana he's a great guy of course

he's wonderful problem is people are now afraid to be proud to be an American and I say it first page of the book I say I love this country I stand up when the flag goes by I put my hand over my heart when the national anthem plays I mean it's I love this country and I'm tired of people apologizing for it

Yeah, why do you think people are afraid to stand up and be proud of being American now? Because it gets criticized by so many people that find something wrong and say we should be ashamed of this. I love this country enough to say that we do have issues. Of course we do. We don't have equal opportunity for everybody. We don't, and we should work harder to make that happen, for sure. I don't care if you start out and third base

dug out or dumpster we all have to work to get where we're going and we should work to try to level that playing field I agree with that 100% we do have problems we do have inequities in this country and we should work to make them better that doesn't mean I don't love this country

and if I got a hill to climb I'd I'm sure rather climb it in America than anywhere else you should run for office hell yeah you ever thought about it no no no I can have bigger impact from the outside end than the inside out.

Well, I'd vote for you. Bob, you could be as VP. I got that. I got that on lock. I got that unlock. I might not, yeah, I don't think you want me as a VP. All right. Choose it.

But I would take your vote if I ran, which I won't. And you would have it, sir. You can't vote for me because I won't run, but you can tell everybody to watch Merritt Street Media, because it's, we talk, our first show, which airs tomorrow, is about all this anti-sense. anti-Semitism on the campuses.

I mean, I heard stuff I hadn't heard since the Nazi youth camps. What the hell is that about? Crazy. Really? It's terrible. What times it air at? Eight, seven central. What else is coming up on it?

Oh, what else is coming up on it? A lot of different stuff, I guess. Yeah, we do. We go to the border. We're actually spending tax dollars. to traffic children to known prostitution. We're taking kids at the border and sending them to locations

that we know are known prostitution centers. And the reasoning you're doing that is to bring... Yeah. And then we're deporting them, or we're taking them to, like, they come in, they've got numbers and addresses written on them. Oh, man.

And we call it and say, are you expecting this child? They say yes. That's awful. And we know that it's... They're selling them into prostitution. The penalty should be just gunned to the head right away. So are we sending them to wherever is on their arm or they're taking a bus and sending everyone to one place?

No, we're sending them to where it was written on their arm. That's awful. Why would there be things to be written on their arms? Because whoever sent them there is. The cartel is sending them up. They're selling them into these prostitution rings and sweatshops. And I asked the head of the union down there, I said, Is it possible that we're sending these children into harm's way,

that we're sending them into prostitution or sweatshops? And he said, oh, it's not possible. It's absolute for certain that we are. And I said, wait a minute. This is on camera. This is a border agent? Yeah. You said, you know, it's the head of the border agents union.

You know there's a camera right here, right? Yeah, yeah. I said, okay, you're telling me, for certain, we know we're sending them there. He said, yes. I said, how under any theory, is it okay that we're using our tax dollars to send these innocent children

into this known prostitution? And he said, well, you know, we're doing what we can. I said, why have you never talked about this? Well, nobody's ever asked me that specific question and I'm grateful for you asking. So the orders are coming from somewhere else then or something. So why is he allowing that?

He doesn't have any choice. Then who's the command of the orders coming from? White House. What the f***ing? And I ask him, what do you need? And he said, we don't need more agents. We don't need more money. We don't need more laws.

We just need to be allowed to enforce the ones that are on the books now. That's crazy. We don't need more money, agents are laws. Why are they not being allowed to do that currently? because they were all pulled back that they took office. Is the border the worst it's ever been, ever? Statistically, yes. So it's a party issue.

What's your fix for that? Do you think people are just not, like, the general population is just not accepting kind of that we have to have a border? Well, I'm very pro-immigration. Yeah. Look, we need immigrants in this country. Well, there's a difference between legal and illegal immigration? I look at America is our home, right? And I think if it is my home, I wouldn't want somebody coming in my home if I didn't know who they were.

If I didn't know what their intentions were, I mean, I want to know who's coming and why. And we don't. We, between 2010 and 2020, we had like 1,100 Chinese come across the border. In 2023, the first 11 months, we had close to 30,000. now why um yeah i think a lot of them are maybe coming to escape the oppressive government in china and they want to come here where there's freedom i think some of them who are military aged are being sent here by china and we're processing them and letting them go and we have no idea where they're going or what they're doing i think we should know and we will know

because you got that that thing going on that's pretty cool you're that's awesome you're bringing awareness to that. We didn't even get into China. Afghanistan is the big thing. It's like, what's going on there? Nobody even talks about that anymore, but I'm not getting to that. So these are the kind of things we're talking about that other people aren't talking about, and we're talking about them through the eyes of the people being impacted by them. Wow, I want to watch that border

one. When's that come out? It's this week. Okay. I'm going to watch that for sure. 100%. And they're buying up farmland, and they're buying it up around our military installations. I just don't see what the point would, why would our government allow that to happen just doesn't make any sense. Yeah. Well, are you ever scared by, are you

ever scared about pushing that narrative might have any effect on on you know because you're pushing a narrative that probably obviously works against the other side are you ever worried about that well just being sniped in the middle of your sleep or something like that it is um it is controversial and uh but you know somebody's got to talk about this stuff yeah one of those somebody's is going to be me do you believe bad like that that as much as people talk about it like people that do push that narrative that goes against the other side that bad things happen of them out of nowhere and they disappear well that's a run-on sentence i don't have the best grammar i mean that's that's two questions it's like i never worry about it and then do people

disappear i don't i do worry about it i ask two part questions yeah i don't think i'm going to necessarily disappear yeah uh but i do worry about it and uh i'm cognizant of it and I've I've had pushback because of it where does the pushback come from a call from a scary person you know you get people I mean when you're on a TV network it's probably a lot yeah you have people that you know hate on you on the internet you have threats and stuff like that but you know you deal with it you either you're either controlled by that or you continue to do what you believe in

and I believe in this country and I believe we need to talk about things that need to be talking about yeah so I'm doing that so you you just maintain security and move on so you don't answer your own DMs or do you sometimes like no I actually think I love the fact that you're actually able to not be afraid

to say what you feel I think too many people are being these days and it's a serious problem well don't you take a stand for then it was your thing yeah the border needs to be under control and like I say I'm very pro immigration. I just think we need to there's right way and the wrong way to do it.

Tighten up a little bit. Yeah. Every country needs a border, right? Yeah. Or you're not a country. It's not a rocket science. Yeah, if you don't have a border, you're not a country. Yeah. You're just a hallway. Yeah. That was what my old girlfriend was there.

My God. That's a whole other three-hour topic. Yeah, I was going to say the same thing. Can you give us all analysis? Dr. Phil and I are good. Don't worry about it. Relax. We're going out. tonight. Me and Dr. Phil are going out tonight and bottle blonde or whatever it is. Let him finish with the final.

We're going to go do some bottles. It's a Monday, bro. Let him finish the final assessment. Do you ever read at this point after spending time with us on... Please. He's not Dumbledore. Neither are you. Actually, I was earlier.

I got met the... I think you're a very willing spirit to have worn this... No, I just honor my bets. That's it. Honor my bets, so it sucks. But the thing is this, I've got to talk to you real quick about it. Truthfully, do you know Daniel Radcliffe? No. So I've been trying to get Daniel Radcliffe.

low-key stalking that guy. But the problem is I've been calling him Harry Potter the whole time. So I've been calling his publicist, all his guys. And they've seen it. And they're like, well, first of all, he does not appreciate you call him Harry Potter. He's Daniel Radcliffe. Maybe you should say sorry.

And start with that. Say sorry to him. And then maybe. I'm not saying anything to Harry, to Daniel Radcliffe. I'm not saying anything because he's been disrespectful. And I tell you what, I know he's got a little show coming up on Broadway.

You might just pull up to that. Let's just say that show will be boycotted so fast unless he comes in there. All right? That show will pull up that. When is it? Actually, if I have a Dr. Phil come with me, would be like, low-key. I think if Dr. Phil sit next to the Radcliffe show,

I might be able to, Dr. Phil, can you make one call to Daniel Radcliffe for me? Because I'm using everybody. I'm going through my CIA guys. I'm going to my government guys. I'm trying to scare this guy. I'm getting him audited by the IRS. I'm doing everything I can to get him.

He ain't budging. I think if Bob sells 100,000 copies of your book, then you've got to go to the show. I'll do that in 24 hours. Would it help him be zoomed? in? Would that work? Ever since Harry Potter, this guy thinks he's this big deal, but you know? She's a big deal.

No, I know he is. I know he is. I'll be at every show in New York City, every Broadway show, front row and center. And buying backstage passes. Yeah, well, I'll say this. Daniel, these are good-spirited guys. They're just here to have fun, and obviously you're important to them. So maybe you can throw him a bone. Thank you.

Let's go. That's awesome. Maybe you can throw him a bone. I can tell you, I enjoyed it and had a great time. I think you would do. I think that might just get it done. Dr. Phil. Thank you.

That was awesome. Great, great talk, Doc. That was me. Thank you. It was crazy at my talk. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was, let me. I was tough it up.

I was like, whoa.