FULL SEND PODCAST - Eric Trump | Ep. 173

Episode Date: November 5, 2025

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Follow me on Price Picks at Kyle. Let's get into the podcast. All right, guys, we got another great episode today of the Full Send podcast. We got a legend here today. Eric Trump, new book out now, Under Siege. What is it? My family's fight to save our nation by Eric Trump. Welcome, Mar-a-ago, guys.

Good to have you back. Thank you. Yeah, it's amazing to be here. We were just talking about it. We came here in 2022. Slightly different times. Different, completely different times. But I think when we did President Trump on the pod, it was right when the Russia, Ukraine,

yeah, situation happened. And then, yeah, we haven't been here since. but how crazy is that whole thing been by the way he was also in out of courthouse if this was 22 he would have been out of a courthouse literally every single days they were trying to indict him for doing absolutely nothing wrong and and uh yeah i guess you just had a war kick off and and here we are today i forgot the fbiated i was a guy that got this the call really i was a guy that got the call they were they were at the front gate which is right over here and um i got a call from one our team members the FBI they're here with a search warrant they're demanding that you turn

off all security cameras now obviously you have less security cameras have a problem property like this, right? Because it's commercial property and you have to. And I'm not turning off fucking cameras. No way. That's a no. And they came in here and, um, remember, they did on behalf of Nara, which is National Archives. And no one actually believes that Nara wanted to raid Marlago, right? Like, and Nara was like a glorified library. And, uh, and that's why they said that was their justification to raiding the president's house. So they rated my father's room. They raided Malani's closet. They raided Barron's room. Um, they went through all their stuff. And, you know, and then we found out that they were planting classified folders in my father's office on this property.

And that's been proven. Oh, yeah. So the judge in the case is this amazing woman named Eileen Cannon. She, I mean, he admitted, Jack Smith admitted to her that they brought classified folders into Mar-a-a-go, placed them on the floor. Those were the same pictures that you saw on, you know, the Fox and CNN every single night, right? We're just classified folders. And that's when they said that he had taken classified information. They planted all that shit here.

These are the dirtiest bastards you could ever possibly imagine. So who was behind that? Biden and Obama and all the Democrats who, listen, remember, go back to 2020. It was roughly the same time you were here, as you said. Economy sucked. Inflation was rampant. Biden couldn't get through a sentence without stumbling. You know, inflation was literally 10%, right?

You had P. Buttigieg who you had every shelf of every Home Depot in this country that was empty. Every, you know, shelf of every Walmart during the holidays was. empty. You couldn't get presents for your kids. You couldn't get a two by four, right? Pete Buttigieg, who was transportation secretary, was literally on paternity leave, because why wouldn't you take paternity leave when in the middle of a freaking crisis, right? And nothing was going well for these guys. And so what do they want? And they knew that Donald Trump was gaining in power, right? They knew that people were sick and tired of what they were seeing. And so what, you know, they say on behalf of Nara, we want to raid your house. But there's no different than the 120,

you know, 112 subpoenas to be exact that I got. They indicted my father 91 times. They took the mugshots. They impeached him twice. They took him off of every social media channel. You know, every judge in this country put gag orders on him every single day. They made up the Russia hoax. They made up the dirty dossiers. I mean, guys, they did everything they could to try and destroy him. They tried to destroy our company.

They tried to debank us. They, you know, I mean, they got every financial institution to effectively cancel us. We were like cancer culture before cancel culture existed. I mean, we were the most canceled people ever. The IRS was leaking our tax returns. I can go on for hours. But it seems weird that they were. would request you to cut security cameras and assume that you guys would comply to that.

Yeah, it's kind of bizarre, right? Yeah, you're immediately going to say no, and then what do they say to that? I bet they do that all the time, and I bet people are probably... Who might do it? Yeah, I bet they were probably sheep, all right? Yeah. And by the way, I asked them, I go, hey, I've a lawyer that lives right down the road can can just wait five minutes.

She'll be here in five minutes. At least she can observe whatever the hell you guys are going to do. Absolutely not. They made her wait outside the front gate. You know, so... Because it's crazy, but, like, you know, this is the same group that spied on the campaign. You know And my father said it

He was on 16 minutes He was like They're spying on my campaign Leslie She goes you have no proof of that And sure enough They were spying on his campaign Under the last administration guys

They were they were dirty bastards They were corrupt as hell What do you do in a moment like that When everyone's just going through here I mean you're obviously frustrated But how do you control yourself You know honestly We became so desensitized to him

I know that sounds like bizarre I had gotten so again I became the most opinion In American history And I never got like You know I've been a pretty good kid Overall never never got in trouble.

And man, they came after it, right? Because I didn't have the executive, you know, branch protections, obviously that my father had, and I was running the entire company. And so they came after us, like, but honestly, I think we were numb to the BS at that point. And so it was, no, we're not shutting off the security cameras. And I called my father, I asked him, I go, did anybody mention it to, to my father? And every day said, no, so I go, I'll call him now. We'll take care of it.

And, yeah, 20 minutes later, we wrote that tweet. You'll probably remember it, which is, you know, they're rating the famous Mar-Lago, you know, this invasion of my home. um this is just another way that they're attacking me right it was kind of famous tweet and then for weeks on end you had the helicopters that were circling overhead you know in the pictures of the front gate right down here but now never never in my wildest dream would i have you know and by the way again they said that they did it on behalf of the national archives no one actually believes that you would raid a former president's house on behalf of the national archives it's it's insane

it's freaking insane is that like the craziest thing that's that's ever happened you must have had so much crazy moments when when your father switched to politics yeah too it's kind of interesting is in in 2016 right you you had the new york times and everybody else saying that we had zero chance of winning they gave us like 2% chance election day of of winning right and so they didn't really ramp up the games because they had so like so little kind of hubris like they they legitimately thought that that they were winning and they had the spirit of the american people they had the entire mainstream media behind them they're touting their message all day long and it was only when my father really, I mean, obviously as soon as he got into office, they started going after him

viciously because they wanted to do anything they could undermine his presidency and his message and everything else. But then really in 2020, when they realized that he could run again and he could win, that's when they, I mean, that's when they put their corruption on steroids. And that's when they went after him, like, you know, beyond viciously. You have to remind me of what setting this one of my favorite clips of your doubt. He's, I can't remember where he is, but he's on stage and he points out people. He goes, you used to support me before this. You used to support me before. Where was that? It was the Al Smith dinner in New York. And who did you call it specifically? Do you remember?

Yeah, yeah. So Schumer was one of them. Yeah. Hillary was one of them. So Al Smith is a famous charitable dinner, right? And pretty much traditionally, every Republican and Democrat gets together to go to this Al Smith dinner. It's, you know, it's kind of a Catholic dinner. And they've been doing it for the last hundred years. And they were there. And he looks at Chuck Schumer. He goes, you used to support me. He'd invite me to your house. You tell me that, you know, I was your best friend. I'd give you check every single time. And the second I came down that escalator all of a sudden I became this no good dirty scoundrel, you know,

and I'm the worst thing that's ever happened to the world, you know, it's really interesting. And I remember all those people. I mean, shit, I posted a picture two days ago when we're, you know, we're in the White House with Hillary Clinton. I'm like seven years old. I've got the greatest, like, hockey mullet you've ever seen your entire life. And, I mean, she was at my father's wedding. She was kissing his ass every single day. I mean, these politicians loved him.

Wasn't he at Bill and Hillary's wedding? Yeah, and there were, and there were at his. All of these guys were, right? And then they were, you know, they were kissing his ass every single day. They were asking him to write every check imaginable. And then sure enough, you know, he puts the R at the end of his political affiliation. And, and they, they detest him minute, one, second one. Do you have any memories of the Clintons before, like, before when you were younger?

Well, Bill, so Bill used to come over the golf course. And I don't think I'm breaking news, but he loved women. I mean, like, I love women. We had a good-looking golf pro who worked at the property. And he would get lessons from her every single week. And he was like, you know, Bill was always a good guy's guy. I never had any animosity against Bill or it. And I had a lot of animosity against, against her.

I mean, you know, to make up a dirty dossier. He probably does too, right? I think more than, more than, like, history would probably say he wasn't a huge fan. Yeah. You know, when you have somebody that pays for a dossier about your father, think about Golden Shower, right? Like, this is what they had. This was all made up.

Golden Shower is prostitional. sorts of crap, you know, and she pays for it to get herself an extra, what, three votes, guys, that's pretty dirty crap. Like, you know, like, we live in a, we live in a big, crazy world in terms of, you know, real estate industries cut through, you know, the, the, the business community's cut throughout. This wouldn't even, like, this wouldn't even, like, this wouldn't even, like, cross people's minds to do this in normal, you know, it's only a politician who could come up with this crap, this October surprise, right? That's what they call. They call it an October surprise. So it's something that's so damaging that it burns you in the

polls right before an election. They want to pop it late, right, because they want to do maximum damage, but they don't want to give you enough time to be able to disprove it, right? And that's their definition of an October surprise. The dirty dossier was their October surprise. The Russia collusion, which was, I was a guy that got the call from the FBI saying, I hear you have secret servers in the basement of Trump Tower communicating directly with the Kremlin. I go, we don't have, first of all, we're like largely like cloud-based computing, so we don't really have servers, right? Second of all, is you don't put servers in basements because basement's flood and this kind of idiotic third of all you know we hardly know what a delegate is we

hardly know what the iowa caucuses are like we're not smart enough to communicate with with the kremlin like in terms of effectuating a it was all BS right but that was their october surprise that's that's how dirty the game is and it's funny you know as a family who didn't come out of politics we knew nothing about it we know or great developers we couldn't believe some of the crap that we saw i mean it would be like somebody would suggest something like that if they were smart enough to suggest one of these and you look at them being like that's vindictive nasty horrible and probably defies all morals and ethics and everything else you just wouldn't do it but that is the political game in this country what do you think about kamala and her book and her saying that she did she want

to run again does she actually saying that well first of all i think she's crazy as hell right i mean she said it was the closest election in american history i think i think i think al gore would probably all right the the bush v gore years would would probably uh yeah what was that five 137 votes or whatever that was not a election at all there's nothing close about it we won every swing state uh we won every state in the country tacked to the right um we won the popular vote you know counties 11 counties in in california that had never been won by a conservative or i mean miami dade right we won miami dade it hasn't been won by a republican in 37 years we won miami dade by 11 points right really 37 years 37 years since it's been run by uh by

by republican and and uh we won by 11 points and by the way that's miami day right so this is a great melting pot of of every nationality every age group every you know every community and um and she's running around saying this slow selection and wasn't close election she got the lambasted she got absolutely crushed i mean you know in in every swing state and every quantify but um so you know but whatever made sense to me is you know you take the person who was the first out of the primaries in 2020 remember she ran against joe biden right she was the first to drop out because she had zero support. Then he picked her because of DEI and I tend to the politics, right?

She was not the best candidate, but he picked her to be on the ticket, right? So then she's on the ticket. Then she forces him out, right? And immediately she has all the delegates. She has 2,400 delegates lined up. And the next day, she's the Democratic nominee for president of the United States. Like, what's democratic about that process? They fucked up so big.

And they pissed everybody off. Like, wouldn't you think that the very people who have to go out to the polls should probably be the person who's going to pick the, you know, the actual candidate, but they totally subverted that whole process. I mean, the Democratic Party in a whole just seems like it's in complete shambles. Even talking about like New York, what's going on with the mayor? That's the moral, right? Well, look at Mondami, right? So, first of all, he hates cops. You know, he says he's going to arrest Netanyahu, so he hates the Jews. He says that Modi is a war criminal, so he hates the Indian population, and he wants to nationalize grocery stores, you know, other than that.

And he wants to increase your taxes, like, dramatically, right? Yeah. Defund the police is the dumbest fucking thing of all time. It is. That's the dumbest, it is. He has a strong support. And I'm trying to understand where, like, how is he gaining so much support for an average New Yorker?

First of all, he's got a great line of shit, right? I mean, make no mistake. He's, you know, people are like, oh, he's not a good politician. No, he's a really good politician, right? He's got a great line of shit. Second of all, he goes out and he promises, free stuff for everybody. You know, the problem is so we're in Florida, obviously, right now, right now. Ron DeSantis is literally going out right now saying, hey, I'm going to eliminate all property taxes in the state of Florida.

And you know why he's able to do that? Because everybody from New York has moved to Florida and all the wealth of New York has come to Florida. And they have such a surplus in their budget that they don't need people to pay property taxes. It's literally going to pass, right? They're going to put it through the legislation, you know, versus New York where you have a guy going out there saying, we're going to increase taxes on the few remaining people. And guess what? You know, where they're going to come? they're going to come to Florida. So they're just going to put New York in an awful financial deficit. Like, New York is an, it's a great city in the world. It's an unstoppable city.

Great city. You know, clean streets, safe streets, and just have reasonable taxation, and get the F out of the way. And New York will be unstoppable anywhere in the world, right? I mean, we've got the best entrepreneurs in the world. We've got the best business leaders in the world. We've got Wall Street. We've got the U.S. dollar, which is the strongest currency in the world by far.

you know, we can do it better than anybody. Just get the hell out of the way and stop being so punitive. But, you know, we're in a nationalized grocery stores. Like, you know, you've got some of the greatest entrepreneurs in the world who have tried getting into the grocery business and they fail, right? You have spoiled it. You have inventory problems. It's heavy real estate. It's high taxation.

You've got loss factor based on theft, especially in New York. They can't get them to work. But yet, Mandami, vis-a-vis city hall, some, you know, some politician who's never ran a business in their life, never signed the front of a check. is all of a sudden going to go up against Gristidis or Dagestinos or Whole Foods? Like, give me a break. Like, this isn't going to work. I find an interesting that clip where, you know, it's recently, there's two actually. There's one where he talked about his aunt after 9-11, being afraid to be on the subway,

which didn't turn out to be completely true. And then the second thing is, I don't know if you saw recently he was going to, like, the gay clubs around New York, gaining their support. And then this photo leaked of him with this lady, Rebecca from Uganda, who literally says homosexuals should be in prison for life and he has this photo with her around his arm sure so it's just like you know why because you're all hypocrites they don't know what they actually believe no they don't know what the hell but i'm wondering like do people not see this or like it doesn't if i'm just trying to figure out if you see that doesn't that make you think for a second this guy's

like kind of full of shit i listen i certainly think he's he's full of crap um i think it's deeply scary when you have one the largest today i mean he's in charge of like 300 000 employees right and when you look at the the city of new york i mean just the nypd is roughly 30,000 cops. That's just the NYPD. That's before, you know, all the rest of the government agencies. Like, what has the guy done? Like, he was like a community organizer.

Isn't that a little scary? You know, Bloomberg, guess why? He ran one of the biggest companies, but one of the biggest companies, right? You go back over the course of New York. You had some real. Look how great of a leader Giuliani was and what he did. I mean, Giuliani single-handedly turned around New York. It's just, it's scary as hell when you see a guy who comes out and says, listen,

I'm going to arrest Net Yahoo if he ever comes into the U.N. you know, into New York for the U.N. General Assembly. You're saying they're saying, you know, you're just going to not have world leaders come through New York now. Like, yeah, like, they don't come through New York. There you go somewhere else. And, and, and that's a damn shame for this country. What do you think will happen if he does win? Oftentimes, I always wonder whether or not these people are bravado, um, or not. And we've seen it both ways. We saw Letitia James, the attorney general, right? She campaigned on the promise of going after Donald Trump and taking him down and taking down our entire family. Really interesting.

She dug so deep that she ended up finding herself. but in her case it wasn't bravado she actually did it there's other people who who will run on the bravado and they'll get in and you know kind of drop the political nonsense and you know stop playing the game and um i don't know man he's uh this guy's crazy as hell and i love new york i mean i grew up there i run a lot of properties there um it breaks my heart to see that happen to the city what's the biggest lesson your dad has taught you about business work your ass off you know you have to you have to work hard you have to believe um you know you better love whatever you do it's you know if you don't love it you can't do it if you don't love it you can't put in the

hours you're not going to travel the miles you're not going to put in the effort you're not going to right you have to love it you have to be damn determined um so so it's it's energy it's work ethic i mean you've got obviously to be smart and i're probably not going to win the race if if if you're not good at what you you ultimately do but um i don't think anybody's ever been successful i mean look at the greatest entrepreneurs in the world like do you think Elon Musk likes space? It's a silly question, but obviously he does. Do you think Elon Musk likes technology?

Silly question, but obviously he loves it, and he embraces it, and he dreams about it, and guess what? That's why he's created some of the greatest space companies, and that's why he's created, you know, Tesla, you know, and so on and so forth. Like, do you think Jeff Bezos liked e-commerce? Well, no question he liked e-commerce, and these are also people who are all disruptors. Name a person who's really, really good at something. Do you think Tom Brady like throwing a football?

Do you think Michael Jordan likes, you know, shooting hoops? Of course they did. Like we like drinking. That's why we started happy to happen. Exactly. You're going to have the greatest freaking alcohol company because you really like drinking. No, but you better have damn, you better have passion because, you know, if Michael Jordan didn't have passion, guess what? He probably wouldn't have spent the three hours a day shooting free throws, right?

Like, he just wouldn't have done it. And guess what? He probably wouldn't have put up the stats he did in his career. If J.S. Bezos wasn't a damn good at, you know, e-com, there's no way that, you know. And, by the way, he learned a lot along the way because he wrote. the whole playbook for it. So he was a hell of an entrepreneur, but you better love what you do, and you better work damn hard at it, because if you're not working at it, somebody else will be. So why the book now and what it's about? Listen, I had to tell the story, because

it was like the ultimate weaponization of government, you know, with revisionist history and everything that they're doing. Like, I didn't want to fade into oblivion. I mean, we're the most attacked family, but they attacked us because they wanted to attack a movement. They wanted to take down, make America great again. So, you know, when they were silencing us, they sure itself silence you guys for a lot of things you said, right? Well, they deleted our episode with President Trump, right? They told my wife, who has a podcast. They told Laura Trump that if you put anything, you mentioned Donald Trump.

And this is an email from YouTube, right? You mentioned anything? We're going to pull your whole, we're going to pull your entire channel, right? And they've done to your friends, too, right? You know, a lot of these people. So they were silencing us. They were gag ordering us. They were canceling us.

They were trying to bankrupt us. They were trying to divide the family. They were subpoenaing, again, 112 subpoenas. I became the most opinion person in American history for doing nothing freaking wrong. They tried to kill my father twice. They killed my friend Charlie Kirk, right? They impeached my father twice. They went after his Supreme Court justices like they were dogs.

They made up stories that he liked to drink, you know, beer. Guy had like two beers in high school, and they went after him like he's some serial killer, right? You know, they made up the dossiers that we talked about. They were raiding our homes. They were leaking our tax returns. I mean, the IRS literally leaked every single one of my father's tax returns. for a 15-year period of time. They did the same to me.

They did the same to Don. They did the same to 91 corporate employees. Just lead them to the New York Times. I mean, they did everything they possibly could to try and destroy us, to take away our voice, and ultimately to kill all of us. And the story had to be told. And, you know, the coolest part of the whole story is we freaking won, guys. We beat these guys. We beat the mainstream media that's dead.

And the media is dead because of you guys. Let's just be honest. The media is dead because of independent voice in this country. Like, you take the you guys, you take, you know, the road. Rogan's, PtD, you know, Patrick Pet David, who's a dear friend of mine, and obviously, I think you guys have been on the show before. And all of a sudden, NBC and ABC, you know, they've been replaced. They've been replaced by independent voice in this country. And I think that's a beautiful thing. And, uh, um, but it's a story about not only what we went

through, not just we as a family, but we as a country, but also how we, how we won. And the ironic part of the whole story is, you know, we sold more books times like 10 than anybody last week, right? So we won number one New York Times bestseller. You know how much they didn't want to give me number one New York Times bestseller, considering three quarters of the book was how they were the crux of just about all of the problems that happened in this country and how they got all of it wrong and how they were frankly complicit in this entire fight. It's a great irony. It's kind of shocking that they gave it to me if you want to know the truth. Talking about the new wave of media. A lot of these like podcasters had your father on when he was running.

And it seems like a lot of them have kind of switched their opinion on him. I don't know if you've noticed that about. How does that make you feel? Well, because they demonized the hell out of him, right? That was the entire playbook of the Democrats, you know, demonized Donald Trump. Do you remember Hillary was running around back in, like, the early campaigns? And, you know, Donald Trump should not have his finger on the nuclear button. You know, it's like the irony today that Donald Trump is the one person who's never started a war.

He's never brought our country to war. You know, he's been, in fact, he's been like the greatest peace president in history. he's i mean i was there when he when he solved the the cambodian war you know the cambodian war look what he did with indian pakistan yeah he would have had you would have had millions of dead people yeah two nuclear superpowers he would have had millions of people look how hard he fought to create middle east peace which he got done look how hard he's fought to end this this conflict in russian ukraine and yet you had hillary clinton running all over the place saying you know don't trump is very unstable you can't put his finger on the nuclear button like the the problem is

they would label you and the mainstream media in this country was effective just the PR arm of the Democratic Party. And so they would just amplify that message over and over and over. What happened is they kept on amplifying the message, and they kept on being proven wrong. They got proven wrong with the dirty assia. They got proven wrong with impeachment one, impeachment two, you know, the Russia hoax, so on and so forth. And there's only so many times you can cry wolf before people start calling your BS. And that's exactly what America did.

And so what did they do? They start turning off CNN, which has like the lowest ratings they've ever had. And CNN used to be like the most respected channel on earth. you know now you'll have like 300,000 people tune in on a on a on a Wednesday night at 9 o'clock don't watch this crap anymore and then compare their ratings to the ratings you do when you launch this podcast tomorrow the next day right you'll 10x them yeah and what do we have we have with three cameras here and a couple microphones and a couple guys sitting there with with alcohol bottles yeah chilling out and bullshitting that's crazy right and by the way and then I want you to go to CNN in Atlanta and look at their headquarters tens and tens and tens of thousands of square feet, thousands of people, parking decks, this and that, massive satellites on the roof.

Go to AOL Time Warner in Columbus Circle in New York, right? 15 floors of the nicest building you've ever seen, you know, reporters, this and that, and you guys are smoking them in terms of ratings? Who's winning that battle?

You guys, but beyond that, it's America that's winning it now, right? Because they don't need to turn it and tune into the BS that's being fed to them by some, you know, corporate. I mean, the stories are nonsensical. The stories are not.

I was the guy that got 112 subpoenas for not doing anything wrong. You had Hunter Biden had a laptop of hookers, you know, elicit drug use, you know, shady-ass deals all over the world. And I'm the guy that's getting the subpoenas, you know, and to CNN, the guy, like, walked on water. I mean, America didn't buy it. You ever had an interaction with Hunter Biden? You know what I haven't. Sounds like, sounds like a good guy to drink. Yeah, he'd probably be a good guy to party with, right?

Sounds like a fun. I mean, maybe, I don't know. I don't know what you do. Not perfect representation of our country, but maybe it put it off at like 12, like not really, yeah. Has there ever been a time you disagreed on something your dad has done as president? I think he's been, like, beyond reasonable. I think there are times where I probably would have gone farther, you know, in certain things. And, and he's been very, very controlled.

You know, I think one thing that I rally on kind of a lot was, was the whole, you know, Butler situation. Like, I'm wholly unsatisfied with what happened there. And I'm wholly unsatisfied with what the American people know about. the guy who tried to blow my father's face off. I'm a competitive shooter, shot competitively my entire life, 130-yard shot with a modern rifle, modern optics from a rooftop as a chip shot, right?

Like, you know, it shouldn't be here. And we know nothing about this freaking kid. We see one picture of him. He's, like, 13 years old. He looks like a nice, innocent, prepubescent boy. We don't know a damn thing about him. He got cremated like six days later, right? And no, I'm wholly unsatisfied with that.

And listen, you know, my father's been like remarkably calm. um and has said publicly that he's he's satisfied um i think there's a lot of things that go into that statement that obviously we don't need to contend with as a general public you know national security and and other things and a guy who's responsible to for bringing calm to a country right after kind of horrible incident um but no i'm not i'm not i'm not i'm not satisfied at all i want to exactly who this guy is i you know they got to every phone of every january six protester you know every every grandmother that walked through the capital and took a selfie but they couldn't get into this guy's multiple phones um i'm i'm wholly wholly unsatisfied as to who this guy was how he got there

um what the hell he was doing um and and i think this country is too i mean isn't it impossible for him to be acting alone one freaking picture i mean who in the day of a of smartphones who in the day of of one of these things has one picture of them out there and it's it's insane you know and This country's pissed off And I'm as a son I'm really pissed off And I want to know more So if there's one thing

I disagree with him on I do so incredibly respectfully He's doing it for different reasons than I am But I want to know who the hell this person is You also are very emotional about us your father At the end of the day too Yeah I want to know who the damn kid was right Like I want to know who this kid was

And it's been it's been Way too quiet Way too quiet about it And again, I'm glad I'm glad he's been as calm as he was because I think there's a different scenario there where it could have gone very differently. But I think this country deserves to know who the shooter was. Whenever I do anything in crypto, I am using MoonPay. MoonPay is like your passport to the entire crypto ecosystem. What I love about MoonPay too is it's so easy to use.

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But how do you feel about it? Honestly, at this point, like, I'm so happy. You know, I, I, I wore my, I don't put a whole lot of time into Halloween anymore, right? So, uh, so I have two young kids, two beautiful kids, uh, six and eight. And, you know, they, they die for trick or treating, like all they want to do. And so I look at my wife, I have, I go, I literally have nothing. She's like, Luke had, like, a little crown that somebody gave him. So I literally took this, this crown and I wore it as Halloween.

So I became the king. And, uh, and I just did it to trigger these people. And I, you know, I think that this point is kind of, it's kind of, it's kind of fun. money to trigger them. I was one that created that Trump 2028 hat. I'm not sure if you saw that. So I'm in my office one day. I put it on a Trump 288 hat.

And, dude, the media starts freaking melting down. I start getting emails, Bloomberg and all these people. Like, does this mean that your father is going to subvert the constitution and run again? And I'm literally just snapping, like, pictures of these on my phone. And I'm just throwing them up on Instagram on my story, just like trolling them. Yeah. And it's, no, I think they deserve to be trolled. Honestly, they're so dishonest.

and I think being able to have a little bit of fun at their expense is kind of cathartic for us at this point, if that makes sense. The meme team is incredible. I literally think memes won this election. And by the way, the Democrats can't meme. They have no freaking sense of humor. They're so backward in terms of every issue. We had like a group that was the meme generals. And it was just funny crap that was sent around all the time.

What was our boy's name on a TikTok Jack? yeah we met him yeah i mean he did a he did a phenomenal job i mean he owned he owned ticot right it's look at the social guys we didn't have a damn choice you know they had a war chest hillary clinton had a war chest of 1.5 billion dollars my father self-funded his campaign we were running at like a five to one deficit financially from from hillary clinton like if we didn't have personality we weren't able to yell into a microphone you know fairly loudly And if we weren't able to get a lot of free We called it earned media

But we got earned media And she's going all the way All over the country Trying to buy ads in Pennsylvania You know You come up with one meme That that meme is probably 10 times more valuable

Than any ad could ever be Does that make sound? You can hear a way bigger audience Was there a singular moment In the election campaign That you think won it? Yeah well certainly when you got shot Right

It's I remember that I was like wow It was strange for me Because exactly 48 hours after that incident, after Butler, I was the delegate from the state of Florida that voted to make him effectively the Republican nominee.

So he got over the threshold. It was like, you know, 1,500 delegates or whatever the hell it was. And that was exactly 48 hours later. But, you know, certainly Butler. And then certainly, but also I'd say the mugshot was a big one. It's just pissed off a lot of people.

People are like, I don't like what they're doing with this freaking guy at all. Like, you know, this guy needs a mugshot. It's probably the most recognizable person in the entire world. he wears a suit around all day that has a red tie and just you know pretty recognizable freaking hair this guy needs a mugshot like i don't like what they're doing to him like this is this this looks like b s i i think the mugshot day was was big a couple of court days like when he got

charged with 34 felonies in new york you know like just pissed off the country yeah you know it's the first time an indictment actually got a politician at that point he was a politician but since when has indictments been good for a politician's career and every single time my father got indicted his poll numbers went up because again people were just after Russia and after the impeachments and after Kavanaugh and all of BS I think just people were reading through this and it's just every single one of them just pissed people off more and more do you see any negatives with this new wave of media because now pretty much anyone can have a platform anyone can say whatever they want and it seems like even on the far right the conspiracies everything's going yeah way crazier than it's ever been listen I you know, kind of in life, I think the cream rises to the top. And so, you know, listen, our country's grounded in a First Amendment right. What's First Amendment, freedom of speech, freedom of religion? Like, that is the bedrock of what makes America great. You're going to have some lunatic on both sides. It says something crazy as hell. And guess what? They're going to get tuned tuned out. You know, there's Republicans who are big in 2016 who have been tuned out because

they said stupid things, right? And you have a lot of Democrats who were big and got tuned out for saying horribly stupid things. I mean, you know, Jeffrey Tubin, who was caught, you know, yanking one out on CNN, who got tuned out because he did something incredibly stupid, right? Those people are going to fall off. And you're going to have serious people, you know, who can have serious conversation, who have interesting guests, who are going to rise to the top and do incredibly well. And I, like, isn't that how the process should be?

It's almost like democratizing a message, you know, if you suck and you're not good and you're inappropriate, and you bring a crappy message and one that's radical, well, guess what? You're probably not going to end up on the platforms and you're probably not going to do well monetarily and no one's going to work for you and you're probably not going to be able find a manager and you're probably not going to have good guests. And you'll probably fade into oblivion, right? I mean, it's just kind of how life works, right?

If you're not good at real estate, you're probably not going to own properties like this and you're probably not going to manage them well, which means you're probably not going to have good members and financially you're going to go bust and you're going to fade into oblivion. Like, I think that's the way the system was meant to work, right? Versus, you know, censoring. I was just with Miranda Devine. Yeah. The laptop from hell story, you know, they came out and they censored it.

They wouldn't let them publish it. Now, the laptop from hell's story ended up being factually 100% accurate. But you had some group in social media that was controlled by the Democratic Party that came out and literally canceled everybody. Anybody who would retweet that story, they were literally throwing them off of, Facebook and Twitter, but that's not healthy. You know, let the facts speak for themselves and let people tune into what they want to hear. And if your voice is better than somebody else's,

you know, congratulations. You win the race. How difficult is it for you to block out politics and focus purely on your business? You know what? I retired. I retired from politics. I know we've talked a lot about politics,

but election day, I called up my father that morning. We still hadn't slept. We had just won. I go, pops, I love you. You know, go to D.C. You're going to make me proud. you know, I'm going to continue to run the company. I'll make the family very proud and, you know, we'll do great things and, you know,

congrats and, you know, there's no more plays left for us to, we won the Super Bowl. And I'm honored to have been on that stage for last 10 years. And, you know, what ends up happening is you have a lot of stuff that's outside of your control that rolls down your plate because people want to use the political conversation and they want to try and interject that with a private property, with a private business, right? I wasn't subpoenaed because I had done anything wrong in business. I was subpoenaed because over and over and over again, because they wanted to try and destroy my father and everything that he was trying to work for, right?

They wanted to try and destroy him. And so, you know, unfortunately, like, I wish the two could be 1,000 percent divided. Unfortunately, they don't allow them to be divided. When they attack you, they're trying to attack, you know, they want to rip our name off of every building in New York. They wanted to destroy his wealth. They wanted to destroy his assets. They wanted to destroy his family. They wanted to just, you know, debank us in every way, shape, or form.

They wanted to curb our voice and our ability to be able to market ourselves. And so, unfortunately, all that stuff was rolling. out of DC. And I would have loved it not to have. I would have lived a hell of a lot better life I had it not. But that was the game they wanted to play. So it was kind of hard to decouple the two as much as I wanted the two to be decoupled. How many properties do you

manage? Oh, God, a lot. A lot. I mean, we've some of the biggest hotels in the world, some of the best residential buildings, commercial buildings, retail, golf courses, properties like this. So, in the hundreds, in the hundreds, across the world. We're

active in development, and about 25 of them. And, you know, depending how you'd find a property, but, you know, maybe 50, 60, very, very large properties. And then obviously a bunch of kind of, you know, tangential assets out of there. But when did you take over, like, running all the properties? So he came to me when I was 33 years old. And he goes, honey, and I'd been the company since I was, I want to say 11, but pretty much 11. I started on our construction sites and with our stone masons and our electricians. Well, we got to talk about that, too.

How did you start? I just, you know, he was one of these guys who just didn't believe in giving kids free time nor money. You know, you want to go buy something? You want to something? Congratulations, go work and go buy it. And so, like, literally, I grew up doing demo. I grew up doing electrical work, HVAC work. And I spent the summer cutting rebar with the settling torches,

um, running excavators, chainsaws. He's been trying to mount his TV for like the past. I'll come back your TV for you. No problem. This isn't that hard. We can't get it done. Oh, I can't tell you how many friends I have who can't mount a freaking TV on the wall. I'm sorry if I'm insulting you right now.

I can just making that out. I could do it. Uh, I can do it. He's got a hundred 20 inches. little heavy if you could help yeah yeah yeah that's fine we'll give you the muscle but but at least if you can do it right most people's most people can't find the stud and then once they hit the once they find the stud half the walls gone they don't know what the hell to do with it and they're trying to use sheetrock screws to mount 120 inch tv you're telling me yeah mr fix it over here

he was really he was really great right it was for him it was always like don't give a type a kid too much time or too much money you know there's no freaking ferrari's for us when we were 16 years old, right? And I, listen, I had friends in my school that went down that road, and I can't tell you how many of them went to rehab. I can't tell you how many of them went down these, you know, terrible paths. It was sad. I mean, these are people I loved. These are people who are friends. And, you know, you wanted something. Congratulations. Go work for it. And then it did two things. It took up our time. So, you know, by the end of a work day, it's like, you know, four o'clock in the afternoon. You went, you know, you hopped on

construction site at seven. You're tired as hell. The last thing you want to do out is go out and party. You know, second of all, you didn't want to spend your money, you know, disrespect, but you And you weren't spending your money if you're making 20 bucks a day, you know, buying booze when you're, you know, 14 years old, right? So you were tired, you learned a skill and you understood the value of a dollar. And he was really adamant about that. But at 33, he came to me, he goes, honey, you know, obviously I'm doing the D.C. thing. I want to take over. You've built a lot of our properties.

I built a lot of our buildings at that point and, you know, assembled a lot of our teams and, you know, do a great job with it. And I thought it was going to be kind of the easy road of, you know, go manage golf courses, go, manage hotels, you know, difficult for some, but, you know, we'd become very, very good at it. And I think 90% of my time, you know, those four year period was trying to keep the FBI, the DOJ, the subpoenas, the depositions, the lawfare, the debanking, trying to keep just a team intact. I mean, they did everything they could to extort our employees to try and turn against my father. I mean, it was the dirtiest kind of mob tactics I could have ever imagined and was coming out of the United States government. Let's talk about, uh, I mean, I thought. we were doing okay but baron headlines are saying baron's got a net worth of 150 million i don't know

what the truth is there but looks like he's doing pretty well so baron fell in love with this so so you know part of gang kind of debanked um we found love with crypto right we kind of didn't have anywhere else to turn in the very same people who are coming after us you know we're going after the crypto guys and and we kind of realized how cool it was how innovative was and how it's really kind of the future finance and so um you know we spun up a couple great companies world liver We have the fastest growing stable coin on Earth. I have a company called American Bitcoin, A-BTC. We just listed on the NASDAQ.

The company is flying. It's awesome. We're having so much fun with it. But I became the biggest fan of Bitcoin. I became the biggest believer in what it is, right? So, you know, something that can't be stolen from you, you know, can't be burned, can't be destroyed in a flood. It's kind of like the greatest hedge against real estate. But also, you know, look at the corruption all over the world.

We saw a lot of it here in America. But just look at the corruption, which is far worse all over the world. world, you know, imagine living in, you know, you pick, you know, pick, pick, pick the country, pick some African nation, pick some South American nation, bad rule of law, corrupt governments, you know, what do you have, right? And so now of a sudden you have stable coins where anybody on earth, if they have a cell phone, they can, they can be on the U.S. dollar, you know, imagine Zimbabwe where you have 10,000 percent inflation a year, you get your paycheck and you may will just freaking burn it, right?

Because it's the value of it's gone, you know, the day after you, you know, you earn the money. Now all of a sudden you can take that. You can either invest in stable coins, you can invest in Bitcoin, you can invest in other stores of value. You don't need banks. You don't need intermediaries. You can't be canceled. You can't be, you know, it's cheaper. It's 24-7.

It can be sent anywhere around the world, you know, very small transaction fees. Say, for, I guess, the younger, I will just say, like, age 18 to 20, 25, they should be studying crypto, like... Yeah, 100%. Let's say, if you look back in 10 years, do not think that the modern financial system will, and I say modern, will run the way the modern financial system is currently running right now.

You know, why is it you can't send a wire past 5 o'clock on a Friday afternoon? It's a freaking joke. I see, like, you can send a Venmo to your buddies, you know, at 1 o'clock in the morning on a Sunday morning. But yet, you know, bank to bank, you can't send a wire transfer past 5 o'clock. You know, if you don't get it out by, five o'clock and you know what it hits monday afternoon and if the big banks love that you know why

they want to see you know hundreds of billions of dollars tied up over a weekend where they can gain interest on your money you know as it sits there in purgatory they're not exactly you know they're not exactly running to fix this problem um there's nothing that can't be done by the big banks they can't be done better faster cheaper more transparently by by cryptocurrency so mark my word if you look back in five years if you look back in 10 years um the financial system will be very, very, very different. tokenization of assets will be huge. tokenization of commodities will be huge, even down to the tokenization of assets.

So, you know, why, so Taylor Swift comes out with an album, you know, like her or not, she's got a massive fan base, you know, why can't she go out, take her album and say, listen, I'm not going to go out to Paramount Records, I'm not going out to one of these companies. You know, Swifty fans, I'm going to put this out. You know, who wants a token of Taylor Swift? You know, it's going to cost you 500 bucks. Go sell two million of them. Go sell 20 million of them.

And in perpetuity, you get 70% of the profits generated off of my album. You'll have every, you'll have every Swifty fan go out there and do that, right? So you're going to have tokenization of real world assets. You're going to have tokenization of art. You're going to have tokenization of artists. You're going to have tokenization of Hollywood. It's coming, guys. It's here.

And on the stable coin front, which is just the digital U.S. dollar, in most cases, right, stable coins can be. But you're going to bring hundreds and hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of billions, trillions of dollars. Everybody wants the U.S. dollar. No one wants the euro. No one wants the pound. No one wants any other form of currency. You're going to bring hundreds of billions of dollars onto U.S. shores, which is like wonderful for our financial system. What are your companies doing crypto? Yeah. So I have one company called American Bitcoin. That's one that we just listed. And we mine Bitcoin every day. So we're mining Bitcoin on average of about

50 cents on the dollar to what Bitcoin is trading. So right now, Bitcoin's about 110,000. We're mining it every single day for roughly 50, 50 cents on the dollar to that. And so what we do is we mine and we accumulate and, you know, I really believe Bitcoin has been maybe the greatest asset in the last decade has gone up on average 70% a year, year over year for the last 10 year period of time. There's no asset that's how performed it. And so I really believe in that on one side. So Bitcoin, think of Bitcoin as like the digital gold. And then, you know, we have a company called World Liberty Financial and we have the fastest growing stable coin. So again, stable coin being kind of defined as the U.S. dollar digitized.

That's backed one-to-one on U.S. Treasuries. And I think that's really going to be the oil by which the whole system works, or so much of the system works, meaning you want to make a payment. You want to buy a watch from your friend, and they're in a different country. You know, you can send wallet to wallet instantaneously for virtually no fees. Like, try and go do that through J.P. Morgan, you know, good luck. You know, it's going to get there three weeks later, and, you know, you're going to have 70% of your money left because, you know, because of fees and expenses and everything else.

How many people tell you or do you think that come to you for crypto advice, they're afraid because Bitcoin's already at $110,000, so it's too late? You think it's going to hit a million, I saw, right? I do. I do. Yeah, listen, it's going to be a number of years before it does. But no, I absolutely do. First of all, the biggest families want it, the biggest private wealth funds want it. Fortune 500 companies are treasuring it every single day.

People are hoarding Bitcoin. I mean, there are major nations out there that take all their extra energy and use that to mine Bitcoin, right? And so it's becoming truly like a world-class asset. Right now, all of a sudden, you can also buy in your equity markets. You can buy it as part as ETFs. You can buy it, you know, as part of your 401Ks, you know, your Roth IRAs. And so it's incredibly valuable.

But people are saying that to me. I was telling people buy BTC at $50,000 at $50,000. I'm going to wait until it comes down, right? That hits $80,000 by Bitcoin. No, it's $80,000 is way too expensive. You know, then all of a sudden it hits $100,000. You know, it's too expensive, right? And then it hits $125,000.

It's like, guys, I don't know how many more times I can say to you. Like, you know, I think it's going to continue to rip. I think it's could do really well. And I am all in. And I've never been more proud of this company. American Bitcoin's like it's, it's an awesome, awesome venture. I'm pretty sure there is. I think it was O'Dell Beckham Jr. took his whole paycheck in Bitcoin.

Yeah, and he made a Tristan Thompson did his well, who's become a good buddy of mine and made an absolute fortune. How can you go about that? Like, how can you request that you want to get paid? I mean, he did it through, I guess, the team and his contract. But a lot of companies. companies are now starting to offer that, right? You know, how would you like to get paid? Do you want to get paid through BTC?

Do you want to get paid through the U.S. dollar? And so you've had a lot of people putting those requests, and those people made an absolute fortune. They made $30 million, but congratulations. That $30 million bucks went up $6. And the period of time, they took their contract. So their $30 million just became, you know, damn near $200 in that same period of time,

all because, you know, they took an appreciating asset. And so, again, there's no asset that's appreciated faster than Bitcoin has. And, you know, think about Bitcoin, right? There's only $21 million. That's kind of a beautiful thing. There's no asset in the world that has finite scarcity, no commodity, right? So if the price of gold ever got to, you know, $10 million an ounce, you'd probably break down the column right there, and we'd be able to extract gold from the concrete that

made up that column, right? The higher the price of any commodity goes, the more money you can put into mining more of it, so you're actually just increasing supply. Bitcoin's capped to $21 million. It will always be $21 million. There will never be another Bitcoin created. And so it really creates massive compression. Then you take an asset that's 24 hours a day, global, not susceptible to any government,

decentralized, not prone to bad management. I mean, you buy into a hotel company and it's poorly managed. You're going to lose money, right? There is no management. There's no fraud. There's no abuse. You know, go try and travel. You know, go buy five bars of gold and try and travel to Europe with them.

You know, you're getting to stop by the, you know, TSA and they're going to, you know, report to the IRS for trying to carry your own asset. You know, it's, it's, you can, you can bring that money anywhere in the world, any time. Do you have any theory on, like, the founder that no one seems to know who he is or where he actually came from or anything? Yeah, I've got some theories. I've got some theories, but, I mean, the, the premise of this is the whole system is genius, right? you're using massive compute power to otherwise kind of protect a financial system of an asset that's beyond scarce that everybody wants that's global and solves all the

problems that I mentioned before. You know, again, you want to buy something. You know, you could send me a million dollars with Bitcoin. Right now, it could hit my wallet in three seconds and you practically pay zero fees. Like, tell me that every financial institution in the world isn't pissed off about that. Oh, yeah. They want to extract the fees. They want as many middlemen as humanly possible because that's what keeps their 70-story buildings lit and alive and their CEOs making hundreds of millions of dollars a year.

You're pretty much bypassing all of them. And I think that's a, I think it's a great thing. In terms of, you know, kind of financial democracy, I think that's a really, really good thing for humanity, right? It gives people financial freedoms that they could never otherwise have. Guess who does best with the financial institutions, guys like us, right? because we've got a lot of properties. And aside from the debanking based on politics, you know, we have leverage because we have size.

Guess who doesn't have leverage? People that don't have properties. You know, the mom and pop, the, you know, the young student, the this and that, they have no leverage over a JP Morgan or one of these big banks. Right. Right. All of a sudden, crypto gives them financial freedoms that they've never had before.

And it's one of the reasons I'm really, I really believe in its entire ethos. Do you think it ever completely takes over? Yeah, well, I mean, I think you're already seeing it in so many ways. I mean, stable coins are rock and rolling. I think what's going to happen is you're going to stop seeing trade settled vis-a-vis swift, and I think you're going to start seeing trades, all trades settled, you know, vis-a-vis stable coins, trade settled instantaneously.

There's no waiting on a Saturday and Sunday for your money. You're going to get it all instantaneous. So I think finances can become a lot faster. You know, there's no reason if you want to go buy a house. You should be waiting 120 days, you know, to go through a new-your customer to be able to, that doesn't make any sense. Like, you have the asset. you want to go buy a house,

it's your damn money, you should be able to go buy the house tomorrow, right? And crypto allows you to do that using blockchain technology. You know, it lets you borrow against your assets instantaneously. And guess what?

If it goes down, it will liquidate a portion of it to cover the margin calls, right? And if it goes up, you know, many people have borrowed against Bitcoin where you have an asset

that's gone up on average 70% a year. So it's going like this. They borrow off of that. Say they borrow 50% off of that. So say you have a million bucks, you borrow 500,000 bucks off of that. Your Bitcoin's going up

you know, 70% a year, year over year, you know, and you're able to buy the house or invest in business or pursue your dreams or do whatever the hell you want, right? And they can do that instantaneously without waiting for not, not to be kind of crapping on a JP Morgan, but not waiting for them to have some underwriter, paper pusher and some skyscraper, you know, God knows where, you know, telling you whether or not you're qualified to use your own money to buy an asset or invest in a business that you want to otherwise. I mean, guys, it really is financial freedom. So yes, I think sooner rather than later, I think you're already seeing it. You're seeing it in a major way. And America is leading the way right now. 100% we're leading

the way. But I think you're already seeing it. And I think the financial implications of it in the next three, five years. I mean, internet right now, crypto is growing about the, it's going faster, actually, than the internet was growing in 1999. Really? Right. And, and that's not stopping any time soon. All right. This is a great business podcast. Perfect time for me to tell you guys about Shopify. I love Shopify because guys, this is so close to home for me. We have been using Shopify since day one of full send.com. Shopify's always been the business behind the business. With Shopify, it makes it feel like you have an entire team behind you, even if it's just you on your laptop. They power like 10% of all the global e-commerce worldwide. They have huge brands like Jim Shark,

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Well, I mean, the question is, do I have the same love of what I do today? Do I have the same love? Yeah. Yeah. No, I think what you do is you get into the thing that you know the best and you have the greatest competitive advantage at, right? Um, you know, I, I certainly wouldn't dive into a field that I know nothing about. Um, the learning curve is too long. You figure out whatever your heart tells you, you figure out whatever you're most passionate about, you know, whatever you enjoy the most coupled with something that can be, right? We all probably enjoy things that just can't be, you know, monetized, you know, in life. Or there are certain things that, you love, but you can't, you can't. Yeah. It's not going to be your business. I always joke. So, so a lot of our properties, you have tennis courts, right? Tennis is worth freaking business, right? You can't make tennis work. You know, if you can break even tennis, right? And I'm using like a silly example, but like, if you really love tennis, you know, I'm not saying don't go.

But for the most part, I think it's probably going to be a pretty hard thing to really grow something that's in that space because it's just very hard, right? It's real estate intensive. It's, it's tough. People don't pay a lot for it. You know, so I'd probably not go down the road of something that can't be monetized well, but you have to find the thing that can be monetized well, but that you absolutely adore and you love.

you're passionate about and you really believe, you could probably hear my love for crypto. You could probably hear my love for real estate, right? So, you know, if everything disappear tomorrow, I would definitely be in those two industries and I would rebuild on those rails because I understand both paradigms, and I'm super damn passionate about both paradigms, and you can make a lot of money, you can do extremely well, you can be a great entrepreneur in both those things. I would, you might like, you know, basket weaving. I would strongly suggest you

not try and rebuild in the field of basket weaving because it's probably not going to work out too. I could see Salim weaving baskets, though, at the same time. What's the biggest thing you've learned in business? Have you ever been burned? Oh, God. You know, many times we've all been burned, you're going to get burnt, right?

You're going to get burned. You're going to make mistakes. And, you know, I think with everything in life, you got to treat life as a little bit of a game. I know that sounds crazy. Oftentimes, it can be a super uncomfortable game. Oftentimes, it's not a friendly game. Go back to politics for a second.

Not nice. I built a charity for, for, you know, children in St. Jude, right? I built the largest ICU dedicated to, you know, terminally ill children, anywhere in the world at St. Jude's Children's Hospital, which is the best pediatric research hospital in the world. I started the thing when I was 20 years old. I've raised over 50 million bucks for them, built so much of their campus. And they came after me like I was a dog for doing it, right?

All because they wanted to counter-narrative to Hillary Clinton, kind of the crappy work that she was doing with, with the Dlynn Foundation. And I realized, I started getting subpoena after subpoena, and they just wanted to do anything they could to destroy me. And I realized, you know, after the pain subsided, it's like, I can't believe you would attack such a good concept. Like, who would attack a children's charity that, you know,

had zero expense ratio? Like our expense ratio was the best in the country. Who would go after then? You start realizing that there's a game behind it. Well, why were they going after me? They were going after me because Hillary was being attacked every single day. And they needed a counter-narrative. and that was a world of politics.

And so there's a point that, you know, you have to treat everything like a game. You have to take emotion out of life and start taking, you know, start looking at things as a game. How do I win it? Sometimes that game is really fun and enjoyable. And we've had a lot of those moments in our lives.

Sometimes that game sucks, guys. You're going to find that. I'm sure you found that plenty of times on this journey where you put your heart and soul and created something great. And then congratulations. YouTube cancels you like a dog because they don't like you.

your message or because you're reaching people that they can no longer monetize because you're monetizing those very people and they want to destroy everything that you've built and that's all part of the game and so you know i think the piece of advice would be just understand life as a game as it is and play those you know try and play as many of those those cards as you can devoid of of the emotional reaction that's so easy to have so you're saying you pretty much can't have emotion no i'm not saying that i think emotion is important uh I'm just saying that, you know, I think when when people start, you know, crying to themselves, like, you know, there's going to be some things that you can effectuate and there's going to be other things that you can't, you know, and just realize that, you know, a lot of times, you know, you're playing outside the world of motion. You're playing inside a world of, of a game and just play to win, you know, work to win, play to win. You know, you're going to have crappy situations get thrown at you all the time. I can't imagine how many friends come at you for favors and you have to separate friendship, business relationships, and, you know,

I think for me, you know, during the political fight, I think it was more, I had, I mean, you guys were obviously incredibly close. I had two friends and they were, when I say inseparable. They were, you're drinking buddies in college. I did every vacation of my entire life with them. You know, best friends, best everything. And, you know, sure enough, politics came along. I was, you know, kind of, I was one of the groomsmen in one of their weddings. The other brother was like my true best friend in the world. And all of a sudden I pop up Instagram. one day or Facebook. And I see his wife marching in, do you remember that, that parade in Washington, D.C., the, I won't use the word, but the, the P-Parade that was happening in 2016, where all the girls wearing the hats and everything else. And she's parching in this with the most vile sign about my father that you'd ever imagine. I'm like, how could, like, I don't understand. Like, I was literally on the stage of your wedding. I was your best friend. We'd introduced the two of you guys, we've done everything together. And, you know, there are times in your life where people

will just disappoint you. I mean, they will. And, you know, remember the people who are there in the worst times. Yeah. Because those are the people who will be by your side forever. Um, there's a lot of people who are going to be by your side. Listen, as you guys have gotten, you know, tremendous fame from everything that you're doing here. I bet you have people kissing your ass every day. Um, you know, I can tell you a lot of those people wouldn't die on the stake for you. Um, you know, times, you know, it got shitty. Your podcast gets, you know, something, you know, something happened. with and guess what you know those people will forget who you are in three seconds not all them not all of them i don't want to be like a negative nancy but but that's why in a certain way in

like 2020 with the and with the joe biden nonsense not that i believe that joe biden won i mean no one actually believes joe brian got 16 million more votes than barrac obama did in 2012 like i don't i don't think anybody believes this i don't even think obama believes this by the way but but we quickly figured out who who were true friends and um and it was actually kind of like a very cathartic thing for all of us like like we knew who was in the trenches with us we knew who was by our sides we knew who loved us when it was arguably unpopular to like us and um and you'll never forget those people what was it like when in 2020 were you guys like down about it did you kind of think it was over or what was your like mindset and emotions like at that time yeah so we were in the

blue room of the white house and i'll never forget i mean we are winning that thing right until those those dumps happened at two o'clock in the morning and do you remember the you remember that kind of famous chart and then all of a sudden and I'm saying there and it was just like crushing you know and what's interesting and sometimes when you work so damn hard where you've literally left everything on the field it's like hard to compartmentalize emotion

because you're just kind of dead and you're saying they're saying like I know we're being screwed the whole world knows we're being screwed again back to the thing no one believes that Joe Biden who didn't campaign who lived in his basement for a seven month period of time got more votes than Barack Obama who whether you love him or not was incredibly charismatic

had a good look, had a good line of shit, and all sorts of things, right? No one believes in. I'm saying they're saying, we just got ripped off. We just got absolutely jipped, and we had worked so damn hard. And, man, what was interesting is kind of in retrospect, it was actually maybe the greatest thing that ever happened to us, right? It's, I look at the difference now. And you've got the Senate, you've got the House, you've got the Supreme Court, 6'3,

you've got, you know, obviously the executive branch, you've got a media that's largely dead, you've got American people who just don't believe in the nonsense that these people pander. You've got independent journalism and independent voice like you guys. You know, it's just like a different, you know. So that's the other thing. It's like, be careful of the law of unintended consequence in life. You know, oftentimes the things that you think are going to be worst in your life turn out to be the best. You know, and the things that are best sometimes turn out to be the worst.

And you don't see it at the time. Like, again, it was crushing in 2020. And now, as I sit here today, it's the best freaking thing that ever happened to us. Completely changed the game. A law of unintended consequence. Like, be careful. What would have happened if you guys won that election? If you won that happen, you would have had Mike Pence as a, as a vice president.

I think we all probably would prefer J.D., right? Yeah, 80's a beast. By 10, right? You probably wouldn't have had a Rubio in there. You probably wouldn't have had this killer cabinet. The cabinet's just crazy. You wouldn't have had the deflated media. You wouldn't have had the House or the Senate, I don't think.

You probably would have been kind of lamed up almost based on the fact that you wouldn't have controlled, you know, that branch of government. um you would have had real problems right and and and it would suck right like he would have been effective but he would have been effective in very different ways they probably would have tried to impeach him another five times they would have probably been effective at it because if you didn't have the house and if you didn't have the senate that you probably would have been effective at at impeaching him you know versus versus today where you don't have any of those things man that's beautiful i mean that's beautiful give any piece of advice that your father gave you that just changed your life

completely with uh with happy with happy dad uh bottles is hard to give one of them No, so my father wasn't a big drinker, and he would always say, and he was really talked about a young age, but he was always, you know, kids, like when we were young, you know, no drinking, no drugs, and smoking, you know, get good grades, no tattoos, you know, don't trust anyone. That was always his kind of line of advice. I think as a kid who was six years old, there's probably a good line of advice, if that makes sense.

I think a little bit, a little bit different than what we're talking about, but that was always this thing, and this other thing was, you know, let's see, you got to love it. You've got to love what you do. don't try and do this if you don't love it. I can't tell you how many freaking smart people there are out there in the world that are either unmotivated or don't love what they're doing.

And man, it's awfully hard to be successful under those constraints. And so that was always his guiding principle for us. And then as I said before, he made us work our asses off. You know, it was not like, you know, go spend three and a half months doing absolutely nothing during the summer.

It's no, you're going to sit on a damn construction side. Like, I wired half of my house. When Lauren and I moved into our house, I was running outlets all over the place. I was running outlets to my clock. I was doing all the light fixtures. I mean, and she's like, honey, you're going to get electrocuted. I go, no, so, so, you know.

That's key. Yeah, making, like, I don't know why, yeah, if you have rich parents and they just give you everything and don't make you work, it just fucks them on. I had that at Georgetown and, you know, gave their kids some fucking 9-11 turbo, you know, the kids 18 years old in college. Just like, honestly, my kids in college, they're going to be driving a used fucking suburban from 1984 that goes 40 miles in. hour that's a tub of steel around them like hey like who gives her kid a 9-11 turbo who gives

her kid a furry like you you've lost your damn mind and by the way if you do that what the hell do they like aspire to to to to build right like it doesn't get better than that kind of right yeah that's my point so like why would you work if it doesn't get better than that like what what are you aspiring to achieve or or get like you know some of some of the greatest days in my life have been the days that i was finally able to afford to buy myself the thing that i wanted to to, and you were able to do that off of hard work and not, not just something that was given. I, I want to keep my kids as poor as humanly possible, as long as humanly possible. What's your favorite story of your dad?

God, there's, there's, there's so many. So, so skiing. So my mom was like a Czech Olympic skier, right? And he'd come skiing every year. But she actually kind of kept it from him that she was a really, really good skier because he's ultra competitive. And so she would fake that she was like sick, right? And then he'd go out skiing and, you know, she'd go flying down the slopes, you know, after and, you know, kind of buzz him, but not really lead on to the fact that was her, right? And, um, but we grew up skiing and, and I became very, very good early. And as soon as I started beating him, and I was like seven, right, as soon as I started beating him down the hills, he'd come up next to me, he'd find one of these flat areas where just, you know, based on size and kind of momentum, he could catch up. Hey, if I can pop you out of your binding or if I can push you off the side, because I think there's no way that, like, seven-year-old kid was beating Donald Trump down the mound.

you know and so like we were competitive as shit right there there was no there was no holding back i can't tell you how many but i just i still remember that like that was like the true competitive nature where it's like we all had to freaking win right he had to win we had to win and i mean um he truly is the greatest guy in the world though i mean he's um he's got a big heart you know i mean he's so much of him it's not an act um but he's he's a killer and in a certain way. And I think that's what we want as president. Certainly what you need to be if you're in real estate. At the same time, the guy is, he's such a good human being, you know, who's done all of this for all the right reasons. And he could have, guys, his life would have been a hell of a lot better

here. And you're sitting in rooms like this, you know, being whined and died by everybody in the world, you know, playing golf, screwing off, you're seeing his grandkids, making a gazillion dollars doing really well at real estate, you know, living the ultimate kind of American dream life, flying around his plane, and he gives it all up to what, get impeached over and over and over, take arrows, sit in courtrooms, 91 indictments, whole thing probably costs us. I mean, just in terms of legal fees that I paid just from the company, damn near 400 million bucks. 400 million. Now, this is to defend yourself from bullshit, right?

Like, let's put this in perspective. This is to defend yourself against the fact that you weren't colluding with Russia when you were never colluding with Russia. This is to protect yourself from the fact that there was no dirty, dossier that was made up by Hillary Clinton and our cronies because you want to get a couple extra votes, right? And, you know, and yet he did all of this because he believes in this country. He believes in America and he believed that we were being run by a bunch of incompetent human beings or we're, you know, selling us out to every country around the world and, you know,

just being incompetent. And so, no, he's a, he's a remarkable person. But that, that skiing thing is one of this. I'll just never, I'll never freaking, I'll never forget. He was great. lawyers love the Trump family lawyers like the Trump family unfortunately we don't like lawyers but lawyers like us it's kind of it's kind of amazing he looks like the ultimate grandfather too every time I see him with like Kai or like doing any

type of like photos or with the grandkids he's he's freaking the best um he loves my daughter he loves my son um it's kind of cool we were at the Daytona 500 this year and so the beast did a lap around the the Daytona 500 so I hop in and it was my daughter

from my daughter son and she's just sitting there in the window of the beast it was like the it was like a moment from days of thunder you've ever seen days of thunder with tom cruise back the day and uh just waving at the grandstands but he's always been he's he's always been great with kids i mean he loves he loves kids to love him um you know she'll go ride around the golf course with him and you know one of the golf carts and with her teddy bear on her lap and he's always uh he's always been great you know great with that next generation and it's uh it's fun to say what's one of your favorite moments in the book oh there's so many um so my mom was tough as hell. And, you know, communist Czechoslovakia, kind of Olympic skier, she wouldn't come

to my graduation. And so I called her up. I was in boarding school. And I called her up with the date of my graduation. She was European, right? And so think of like, think of like the Super Bowl, like, you know, the World Series, you know, wrapped up with every sporting event, right? And with Augusta, put them all together. And you have something in Europe, it's Monte Carlo Grand Prix. That's like the F1 race, like the most pivotal race. And like every European freaking loves the grand prix right they all watch it though so i call my mom up one day and i go mom my graduations on uh you know whatever day it is yeah june first um and she goes no freaking way i go what do you talk about she goes honey that's monte carlo grand prix i'm not going to your

graduation i go mom it's my it's my high school graduation yes come to my high school graduation she goes honey every every idiot graduates high school i'm going to mona carlo grand prix right and the funny part of that story is she was just she was a freaking killer And she really meant it, right? She's an amazing woman, but just, you know, different, right? I mean, kind of old world, you know, tough as nails, you know, and she loved us. But, like, that was, like, who she was, right? Like, that was, like, her grit.

It's like, every moron graduates high school, honey. Now, if I graduate from MIT, she would have said the exact same thing. Honey, every moron graduates from MIT. But it was just, you know, as I was kind of describing who she was and the personality in our lives, it's just very funny. It's just, like, very real and very grainy. very her one day do you think you'll ever get into back into politics guys it's a shitty world all right and and um it does seem shitty yeah it's a shitty world um it's a shitty world it's a shitty world

it's a shitty job um by the way with with a bunch of kind of bad people uh not all some some are great some are great and so many of them are corrupt as hell um you know i think the republican party has created some great killers now you know some great personalities there's a lot right that we all like right and you can have that like go back you know i was i was i was I was in college during the Bush years, and no one was inspired by politics. Like, you know, DJT inspired people to politics. You see every, you know, you see every kid trick-or-treating, and guess what? They're wearing Donald Trump, you know, red ties and suits, and they did a little comb over

and everything else. Like, he's literally inspired, like, a generation. I think that's really kind of great, but, you know, who knows what you're calling us? I never thought I would have written a book that was number one New York Times bestseller by a factor of 10. You know, I never thought I would have been on The Apprentice for seven seasons as I watched NeNe Leaks and Star Jones, you know, shouted each other at 7 o'clock in the morning, right? And Gary Busey and Meatloaf, like, you know, we did that for seven years and it was wild.

I never thought I'd be running, you know, $10 billion company, you know, probably more of international properties and building hotels and golf courses and everything else around the world. You know, I never thought I would have been on that stage for winning two, arguably, three presidencies, not knowing a damn thing about politics, right? So you never really know what the life brings, you know, for good and bad. I think if politics, if it ever got so bad, it was my father's kind of famous saying back in the day,

you know, would you ever get into politics? And he said to Oprah a long time ago, if it got so bad, I had no choice. It would probably be my same answer. Like, I'm not sure if I'd naturally hop in unless it was so effed up that, like, you just felt you needed to do it. I feel like we've developed the voice.

I feel like we've developed a great understanding, of of America and the issues and things that drive people crazy and the the dislike of the media and the dislike of politicians and the BS and the games and the nonsense and I don't think we'll ever lose that it's just you know whether or not we hopped in would probably depend on you know where this country was and you know whether it made sense for us and our respective families right because they're coming these people are make no mistake as they're coming whether it made sense of that time who's like the craziest person that or some of the craziest people you have ever met like have you met Oprah like have you

met any world crazy world leaders we were on yourself like like most of them we were on the stage with we're we're I think we're the second last Oprah show um her last one I think she brought her original cast from her first episode ever back and gave them all cars I think we're second to last on Oprah so yeah obviously met Oprah um you know Hulk Hogan uh rest of soul I mean, he was a guy who we knew very well from the Atlantic City days. Remember, we also grew up in Atlantic City, so, you know, the Michael Jackson's of the world, the Don Kings of the world, the Mike Tyson's of the world.

I mean, you know, all of these guys, we knew, we knew every single one of them, every, every band, every, you know, the Axel Roses of the world, and, you know, every performer. They would all come here, right? Well, a lot to the casinos, and then the other side, I mean, you know, so you had kind of the apprentice world, which you had a lot of those characters, right? had the business world where you had a lot of those characters, you had a lot of the world leaders that we just knew from certain circles, and you had the Atlantic City worlds, which were a lot of the entertainers and the fighters. I mean, we were hosting the first of the UFCs back

in the day before they were even freaking rules where you could eye gouge and kick to the face while somebody's on the ground and groin kick and stuff of that. Do you remember some of those early fights in the UFC? Yeah, yeah, people are literally wearing like geese, like Royce Gracie. You'd have, you'd have the Gracie guys who'd go against a fucking sumo guy. They'd just sit their leg kick him and then you know when he finally falls down they get behind him and just choke him out it was great stuff and you know it's and then obviously all the wrestle manias back in the day and and the viz mcmans and you know they're still friends to this day and you watch a lot of ufc still i love it i mean that's that's that's my yeah that's my favorite too sportive kind

of choice who would you love to see on the white house card oof i mean john jones has to fight he he thinks he'll be on it i would love to see him you know what it's funny he put up a tweet the other day um it's like i don't know a month ago where he had like one spot left on his wall he had all the title so you know because he's right and then he had one spot left and he took a picture of it so so i feel like he has one one left in him and man if there's ever one that you're going to do it's it's the white house i mean i think you're going to see i think you're going to see mcgregor at that one i've got to know mcgregor pretty well and and uh he's great guy i mean there's so much talent there right now i mean he gained a lot of leverage off when the white house thing got

announced because McGregor was kind of M. I mean, Jones was retired and then all of a sudden White House, everybody wants to be the greatest performance of all time. You know, I mean, it's,

the renderings look insane. Insane. Like, that's going to be the craziest sporting event of all time. My father's birthday, which is flag day. On the day? Yeah, which is flag day

at the White House, on the South Lawn, on America's 250th birthday. I mean, how freaking is. Fighters walking out from the Oval Office. This is what I have. It's going to be like, we need like a great American card because, listen, I like a lot of these guys and these guys all like us, I mean, you know, GSP, all these guys were, universally, I tell you all the fighters, really, but man, we have to have a good American showing on America's birthday at the White House. We need a good American showing. That's what I mean. So I wonder, yeah, I wonder who. I wonder who they're going to put on, because there's not any American champions I know. I think main event options are this. John Jones versus someone. Yeah. McGregor versus someone or potentially Toporia and Machas. If that lines up, I think those are the three, I think those are the three possible main

events. Jones, Alex, McGregor, someone, maybe Chandler. I'd love to see some of the other guys. Like, we've become pretty close to Bo, Bo Neckle. He's a hell of a fighter. This kid was like undefeated at Penn State, right? I mean, this was like the true, like, American champ. He goes into the octagon.

He starts knocking people's freaking heads off. And by the way, not just wrestling. He is, you know, his, you know, his, you know, the ground game is obviously phenomenal. but like he ended up becoming a good striker and uh you know he's doing great like i'd love to see a couple of the american kids that did really well in in college at like the good american kind of state schools you know we're wrestling base guys in the yeah i just love to see a couple like the good american kids that you know that that are kind of new newer to the sport but show great promise go in there and have a couple of the prelim fights you know i always enjoy watching those guys

you've been to a lot of fights probably so what do you think the crowd will be like at that event versus typical ufc fights like is it going to be a lot of world leaders there and stuff like Yeah, I think that one's going to be interesting. I mean, obviously, with security and space constraints and everything else, like, you know. It's like 5,000 people. But I think Dana's already said that there's just going to, obviously, this isn't a pay-per-view thing. It's just going to be aired on, right? So, like, the entire, I think this can be one of the most tuned into sporting events ever.

Like, you know, I'd love to see a push Super Bowl numbers, right? And I think done correctly, I think it can. Because it's going to be international, right? Just because it's at the White House? Totally. No, I think it's going to be, right? It's going to be a hell of an event. I'm super excited.

And Dana's become really close to the family. I've become really close to Dana, and he's, Dana's a freaking greatest. I love him to death. And no one loves your dad more than Dana, too, right? He's the best. Dana is absolutely the greatest. Yeah. So, we cannot wait to be there with you.

Come on, boys. Let's go. I might need your help. You got to start doing a lot of favors for data. Anything you need to, let me know. But yeah, we can't wait. Dude, he's the best, and that's going to be a fun event. That card's going to be nuts, man.

Awesome. But doesn't I symbolize, like, the best of America? Yeah, it's most American thing ever. Right? Yes. Do you think Biden would have done that? Do you think Biden would have let? Of course not.

We know this. And do you think Obama would have done that? Of course not. The best thing about it, and I think we asked Dana this on the podcast, is that your father announced it before talking to him. And there's nothing better than that. Oh, yeah. That's the great.

Dana found out about it from the thing. By the way, that doesn't surprise me at all. Yeah. He announces a lot of shit on social media. Yeah. It's, uh, Dana's like, oh, shit. I guess I'm doing this. You know, Dan is one of these guys who never forgot.

You know, I told you this before that there are people in your life who during their good times will will be there during the bad times will be wholly absent. Dana was one of those guys that no matter, you know, how rough the seas were, he never, ever, ever left his side. And he always told one story. He goes, when no one would bet on us. I approached Donald Trump in Atlantic City. And we held the first UFCs there. And no one would allow us to do it. None of the venues would take us. None of the states would take us. I had one conversation. He said, absolutely. And I'll never forget that. UFC wouldn't be here if it wasn't for Donald Trump. UFC wouldn't be here in this capacity if it wasn't for him believing in us and taking a chance and I will

never, ever, ever forget that. And man, Dana stood on that stage. He's still in that stage at the R&C conventions. This isn't easy, right? He had plenty of corporate sponsors who were telling him to go F himself and, you know, you do this and you're going to lose it all. You're going to lose your TV contracts and Dana didn't give a crappy A. You want to talk about a guy who has backbone? I want to talk about a good man. Dana White is as good as it comes. of like having balls and not giving a fuck and look at his contract right now

look at what he just did look at the look at the contract he just signed paramount yeah this guy's crushed it yeah and by the way one other thing that no one talks about we get boxing right so I grew up in all the the Tyson fights

now he they're bringing him into boxing well they should because he's a fucking phenomenal promoter and boxing was when I was growing out boxing was like the biggest sport right like you know think about like mid-80s in Atlantic City yeah we had everyone we had the greatest Tyson fights Spinks we had we had all of them

I remember going Tyson Gneely, where he beats the guy from, I remember he beats the hell out of the, you know, Peter McNeely from Boston. Yeah, he tried to intimidate him. He knocked him in, like, the first and by the way, Tyson just got out of jail, like three days later, right? And he literally looks, he looked terrifying in there. He was terrifying. Yeah. Fuck, that guy's most terrifying of all time. Yeah.

And, and, I mean, boxing was amazing. And it was, it was kind of like, elegant. Like, people would actually dress up to go to some of the fights, which kind of added, like, I'm not. Yeah. I try to be a little bit casual now, but, like, you know, I added something to kind of, glamour of what boxing was. And you had the great heavyweight fighters. Like people miss like the heavyweight fighters today.

Yeah. And it seems like all the good fighters were all these kind of like welterweight guys and it's just less entertaining. And I think boxing. Right. Maybe more in the UFC, but less than boxing. And man, we got to bring boxing back. But, but, you know, Dana, he literally stole the fighting industry from boxing and

brought it all to the UFC because that's how good he was, right? And, and, uh, I guarantee you give Dana two years of boxing. he'll make boxing relevant again. Yeah. I think that's something him and your dad have in common is they just, I feel like they like to prove people wrong too. Oh, totally. And they just won't stop until they win.

Like, there's no option to lose. That's what I've kind of noticed. He's the freaking greatest. I would take a bullet for that guy in a heartbeat. He had the cool saying, he gets up on stage and he goes to some in the tough guy business and Donald Trump is the toughest of them all. I thought that was a cool statement ever. This was literally as he's like, you know, courtroom after courtroom.

You know, we're in courthouses every day as they were. trying to indict him they're trying to throw me in jail they're trying to throw him in jail um but uh dana goes i'm in the tough guy business and he's the toughest of them all such a cool statement oh yeah well where can everyone get the book go to amazon um don't go to barns and noble you know they've been kind of pissing me off they feel it why yeah we're number one bestseller shelf space isn't i don't give a damn i like i can say that but like no like you go to half the barns and nobles and like they hide them in the background shit like that it's like it's crazy it's like i've had so many people walk into Barnes and Nobles, they can't find it.

So it's the number one book in the country by far. And then people walk into Barnes & Noble and, you know. Barnes and fucking Noble, get it together. Well, I don't even know if anybody buys anything in Barnes & Noble anymore. Just go to Amazon because, honestly, everybody buys everything at Amazon. And I can tell you, my publisher is not going to be fucking thrilled that I just said that. But it's honestly, you go into three quarters of the Barnes Noble. You can't even, they're there, they're there.

But then you have a store manager that plays games and hides it behind four other books. And, you know, there's plenty of that crap. But just go on, go on Amazon. We'll put the link of the top of the description, too. Number one book in the contrary, and I'm incredibly proud of it, guys. Awesome. Well, we appreciate you, bro. This was fucking awesome.

Hey, and congrats. Yeah, we'll send you home with some Happy Dad, too. You're crushing it on the podcast. You guys are crushing it with Happy Dad. Thank you so much. You guys are incredible. Thank you, bro. Thank you.

Thank you. Thank you, guys. All right. Eric, go. Let's go. Thank you.