FULL SEND PODCAST - Forrest Galante | Ep. 146

Episode Date: February 8, 2025

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Oh. So welcome to the Central Viewie gallery. Holy shit. This is crazy. You're going to have to be not. This might be the craziest. podcast setup that we've ever done right i'm really jealous because i want to do one of my pods in the uh central viewing gallery this is insane so what area is this so this is called the central

viewing gallery and there's five different enclosure no sorry six different enclosures with all these windows but as you could see their enclosures go way back so they're a huge area but at night with the lights on and people in here they just want to see what's going on this is crazy all right boys before we get into the pod the big game is right around the corner i'm so fired up you guys already know we're going to be firing on prize picks boys for the big game take advantage of the free square on prize picks patrick mahomes free square if you're like me and you're going to be firing on prize picks while watching the game that's pretty obvious tack on the homes to your lineup is just going to boost your entire payout easy money my homes is probably going to snap brig taylor swifts singing 22

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Big games around the corner. Let's get into the pod. So, yeah, no, we've been trying to do a pod with you for a while, too. Like going on a year. I think we wanted to do it when Stiney was here. Brad was here, too. But basically, Stiney, he just completely bailed on this trip. I told you a little bit about it.

I think he's, I think he's, like, scared of international countries. So even Dubai, we scared the shit out of him last time. I was surprised that he came to the tribe. Yeah, me too. But Dubai, he always passes up on anything international he's very scared of. But I can't not believe he missed this trip. Because like what, if you guys don't know, we're in India right now. We're at a place called Vantara, which we'll talk about, we're going to talk a lot about it. But basically, Forrest, you hit us up and you were talking about it even during the tribe. Yeah. About the possible chance of us coming to India.

Yep. and basically seeing India, like, nobody ever sees it. No. And we've been here for about almost a weekish now. And it has just been absolutely insane. Mind-blowing, right? It's been fucking, I knew it was going to be crazy based on what you said, but we are just mind-blown at the hospitality

and just, like, the way we're being treated, the things we're doing, the food, it's just been insane. So we can't thank you enough for setting us up. It's my pleasure. I'm stoked you took me up on the offer because I love this place. I mean, I really do. I'm here just because I love it, no other reason. And it's really cool because Indian culture is if you're a guest, you stand above all else.

Like, it is paramount to them here in India that if you're a guest that they treat you like royalty, like better than their own family. And you're getting to experience it. So explain where we are and what your role is here and stuff like that and what we're doing in India. Yeah, with pleasure. So as you know, to describe why I'm here, I'm seen as a pretty big authority on wildlife, and I've been working with wildlife my whole life. And so I've heard about this place for several years,

and it's called Ventara, and it's owned by one of the richest people in the world, Anadambani. And sort of similar to me, he's loved wildlife his entire life. When he was six years old, he used to run around the streets of Mumbai rescuing street chickens and taking them back to, like,

his parents' house. It started with that when he was 16. He rescued one elephant, and he was like, where am I going to put that elephant? So he built that elephant facility. Then he built another one. Then he built another one. So he's been building this place for a while,

and it's growing at a rate that you cannot explain. So this is Ventara. It's the world's largest wildlife rescue and rehab facility, and every animal here has been rescued from all corners of the globe. We've seen, I mean, today we saw tigers, we saw lions, we saw bears, we saw elephants that were mistreated and stuff like that. Circus fires and abused logging trade. everything how did you first meet mr imbani um so because of what i do with wildlife i had been told

to him by several people that work here full time they're like you got to get this guy forest you got to get this guy forest and have you seen how he like what is it like when he like rolls around we haven't met him yet but we've heard like what what does it look like on one of the richest people like i mean you know how you've been treated since you've been here yeah he rolls around on another level to that but what's so great about him as a person is like He does that when he has to for security reasons. Then he comes here and it'll just be him and I going for a walk for an hour, talking about what's the best way to keep crocodiles.

And we'll walk around for one hour and just discuss that and just be like, well, how do you, what do you think about this? Like, how many animals should we have in this pond? Like, is it too many? And it'll just be him and I at two in the morning walking around. So he's just like a very leveled, headed down to earth guy. He's just come up in this crazy world. You know what I mean?

Like nothing matters. Like it's not about financial. It's about the realization that he's had, Anandabani has had, that wildlife is the most important thing on this planet. And to me, while all these other billionaires are in like a dick measuring contest or race to space, he's like, I'm just going to save what's on the planet, which I think's awesome. The tribe video we did, I know you guys, everybody loved that video that we did. Oh, good. Like, they loved it. It was a lot of fun.

That tribe was, like, a lot of people were saying it was, like, fake or like, what can you say about it on the legitimacy of it? Oh, fully legitimate. Brett, who we hung out with, is the only person that's ever been accepted into that tribe. We are one of a handful of Western groups that have ever been there. People think that tribes are, like, you know, so deep in the jungle, they've never, some of them had cell phones, you know, they didn't work. There was no cell phone signal. You know, some of them had NFL, like, Super Bowl T-shirts from 2002, you know,

like they get stuff, but they're still a remote tribe that are still primarily uncontacted. Yeah, you know, like, yes, other missionaries have been there. That's why some of them are Christian, but it's not like there's tours over there. You know what I mean? You saw. Yeah. No, that was as a remote as it gets. Yeah.

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chased around a lot. I mean, that's about as remote as a tribe gets, but I've had way scary run-ins. Like, we were sentenced to life in prison in Myanmar for smuggling a drone into the country during the Rohingya massacre, which was this big, like, a religious massacre. We got chased out in Mozambique by corrupt government officials because of some like nefarious activity with Chinese loggers. I mean, we've had some like pretty crazy stuff. We've been shot at. Like, we've had some crazy stuff. How did you like start? I mean, I grew up in Africa. I grew up in Zimbabwe. And my family, like we had a small bush plane because my family ran safari businesses. So we just travel all over Africa as remote as we could get. Like, you know,

collecting artifacts, seeing wildlife. That's just like what my family did. And I just sort of kept chasing that and after school after college i was i was like i'm going to be a biologist i'm going to change the world i'm going to go save animals and i came out of school and got a job as a biologist and i was making like 14 bucks an hour being a field tech so like the guy who like actually catches the rattlesnakes or the guy who puts collars on the foxes or whatever and then i was really good at that so i got promoted quickly and then as soon as you get promoted in biology that means you're working in an office writing grants so i got promoted and was like I hate this. I want to go back to the field. I remember talking to my boss Morgan. I was like,

I want to go back to being a field tech. He's like, you're going to make half the money. I was like, I don't care. I'd rather be a field tech. So I like hit a dead end in biology where I couldn't be doing the stuff I love. And I was like, this is a waste of time. So I made the jump from that to like full on media, which is what, you know, I do conservation communication now, basically. What was like your first like big break with like TV and stuff like that? Like how did you become like the force Galante that we know now? I hate this question. My first big thing on TV is really funny. I got back from being a biologist, sat down on the couch. I'd been three months on a field survey, and I was exhausted, like roasting hot, everything, fell down on the couch and naked

and afraid was on TV. You ever seen that show? Yeah, yeah. I did that show. Okay. Yeah. That was my first foyer into TV. But, you know, like Survivor, the Bachelor, or whatever, thousands of people have done that show. I managed to take that. And while everybody else was like crying or moaning or whining about surviving. I was like out catching snakes and showing him the camera while my own snake was hanging out. And the producers were like, why are you doing this? I was like, I don't know. Snakes are cool. And then after that happened, I was like, all right, that reached four million people. Like a paper that I wrote, academic paper reached 400. Like, why am I studying science? This is a waste. I'm not going to change a world doing this. So I just started pursuing media and pursuing media.

It took three years from the day I decided that and quit my biology job until I got my first TV show pilot. I was living on fumes. I'd save up for like a month just to be able to fly to New York to pitch stuff and never got anything salt. It took three years. And had you get good at the production side of stuff? Because you have like,

you obviously know your stuff when it comes to wildlife and all that with the knowledge, but you also know your shit when it comes to entertainment. I've noticed too. Yeah, thanks. It's all learned.

I mean, never taken a film studies class or anything like that in my life. It's all learned. But I started, my first series was called Extincter Alive where we looked for Exincter Alive where we look for extinct animals and I was basically working for someone else and I was watching how they did it and I was just very quietly observing and learning the whole time and by the time season two came around as the biologists they're like what should we do to me and I was like well

if you want me to tell you what to do I need to be a producer I can't just be the on camera talent and so I became a producer and then after that I was like well I'm going to start my own company like I get it I've seen how this works and there's been some big ups and downs of that lost a lot of money made money like pitched some terrible shows had big failures but it's all like trending in the right direction what's that business like like like with wildlife and production like what what have you noticed like what are they looking to buy and like what are you looking to shoot you know what I mean by that yeah well I don't have a British accent so that doesn't help you're fucked with that yeah I'm fucked yeah like if you're just a British guy and you walk into a room in America they're like

wow take my money and make a wildlife you know all those narrators that do all those wildlife yeah all of them everybody I feel like they're like cocky or like they're dicks those guys For sure. Yeah. British guys just like think, think, you know. I mean, if you talk like that too, you're probably fucking a lot of chicks, too. Yeah. I mean, and good for them. Like the guys that narrate wildlife shit. Oh, yeah. Like, they probably get laid. Dude, in these little circles, like, oh, man, I'm a, I'm a big deal in my tiny little world. That's kind of a flex at a party. Like, if you say, like, what do you do? Like, I narrate for national geographic. It's a flex at a party if you're at a party with a bunch of nerds. Yeah. It's not a flex at a regular party. It's not. No. I feel like that could work on chicks, honestly. I mean, it's worked for me.

Yeah. But like the business of that, what do they? is there a lot of show business with it or like it's harder now because tv's just dying right like i'm sure of everybody watching this you're watching on youtube 99.9% people don't even have cable anymore um but you know that's why i started youtube like a year and a half ago now and for many many years like making wildlife tv presenter-led wildlife tv has been very fruitful and productive and it's hard though because you're competing with companies like silverback which does all of the like planet earths and blue planet and stuff like that and you walk in the room and they're like you're 26 years old and you're pitching me a wildlife show like I could buy that or I could go

buy something from David Attenborough who's been doing it for literally 90 years and it's like you know it's hard I had to fight my way through it but every show I've ever made has been pretty successful and so we just keep pushing those shots like let's say some of the craziest stuff you filmed how long do you have to like sit there and wait for like a shot sometimes so long so Is there any story specific you could tell us? I don't do it anymore, to be honest. I used to do it in the early days. Now, like, some of my team who you met today,

my camera guys will sit and do it. But they'll be sitting in a blind for days, six, seven days to get one shot. Really? Yeah. And the guys who do, like, the BBC stuff, will sit for like six, seven weeks to get a shot. So that's what I mean.

If you're waiting six to seven weeks to get, like, a sick shot of a tiger. Yeah. How much are they paying for that shot? Not much. Well, oh, but the company? A lot. But those are like the big blue.

chip projects like planet blue chip is like pure nature right i've carved out a niche and like presenter led nature so like i'll present a show a host a show or i sell shows with people presenting they're a whole different ballgame like those those bbc projects are like 10 million dollars in episode my shows are like 200 000 in episode they're a whole different like ball game so we'll still like have a pretty small team and put in a lot of effort in time to make a show but it's for me it's not about sitting on a mountain waiting for a snow leopard to come down the mountain it's like okay i need to i need to show what a snow leopard is what do i need to do to get to the snow leopard so while most guys will sit in a blind with a piece of bait waiting i'll have to like go up the mountain and find the

thing and that's that's harder yeah i because honestly on youtube and on board i'll just watch animal videos too like i think i've seen every type of like predator attack video yeah i love the predator ones that's great i mean we're surrounded by them this is crazy what what was your craziest story with like a close call? The closest call I've ever had is self-induced and it was like three years ago now and we're milking sea snakes. So we're we're catching sea snakes in Australia to test their venom potency and sea snakes are like a hundred times more potent than a cobra. So like really deadly venom. So a sea snake is in the water? Yeah, snake that lives in the sea. Okay. And we're catching that tiny mouths, tiny fangs. So you take the the snakes and you pipette the like little like scientific

tube like pipette the venom out of their fangs and it's not like an exact science so the venom was like dripping down the outside onto my fingers and then i started arguing with my cameraman Mitch literally as i just finished milking the snake i was like dude fuck off and i put my fingers in my eyes like this and i thought i still had a venom on my fingers and i was just like oh i just killed myself like i just thought i'd rub sea snake venom in my eyeducts which will enter straight into your bloodstream and i was like whoop i just killed myself because i'm like a day from anything like I'm not getting to a hospital, nothing. And so for like six, seven hours, I was like, I'm definitely going to die.

I'm going to fall over dead any minute. And it was just like the anxiety of fighting that and not knowing what to do and being way too far. And like, I didn't tell anybody on my team because I was like, I'll just stress them out. And that'll make me more stressed out. So I was like, all right, I'm just going to wait. I'm going to go to bed and hope I just don't wake up. And I just woke up the next morning.

I was like, who, okay, didn't do it. That's fucked. And you've been struck by lightning too, right? Yeah. You told the story, I'm sure, but... Yeah. We were filming a Garmin watch commercial in the Everglades on the side of a road, very famous area called Loop Road.

And there was like a thunderstorm, and my cameraman was like, dude, get out of the water. There's too much thunderlighting. I was like, shut up, stop being such a pussy. Like, nobody cares. And then literally, like, a minute later, Kyle was there. A minute later, the lightning hit the water like 15 feet behind me. And did you feel anything?

Oh, yeah. Are you kidding me? What did it feel like? My whole, like, legs went like jelly. And I was like, ugh. couldn't walk like every muscle in my legs and butt tightened up and it was just for like a flash second where it all just contracted and then released and then i like ran out of the water and had this crazy like adrenaline spike but then when i came down from it i had the taste of metal in my

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going snorkeling we're going to see fish and we get in the middle of the pacific it's the deepest blue water like you look down you can't see anything forest takes a fucking fish cuts up a bloody fish puts a weight on his we're all wearing life jackets yeah this fucker puts a fucking weight on himself so he can sink and puts the bloody fish in his belt and then just starts swimming down to the bottom of the ocean with the fucking water bottle cracking it like this and then all of a sudden we look down and there's 50 sharks around us I've been working. So this is what I don't understand.

Like, I was shitting myself when I saw that. Like, what happens if, like, three of those sharks just, like, charge at us? You're fine. And you have a bloody fish on your fucking body. Yeah, and those sharks were gnarly there, too. And they're chill, but they also would, like, speed up, like, crazy at certain times. It's all calculated risks. So, like, you can read a situation.

I look at the ocean. I go, all right, how many sharks are there? How fired up are they? Are they going to attack? do I am I safe how do you know that though so with sharks and every single animal's different with sharks are their backs arched are their pectoral fins locked out are their eyelids rolling back in their head like what are the signs of aggression if a shark's lazily swimming around it's not in an attack mode or aggressive mode if it starts arching its back and locking its fins it means it's going

to snap like today when we were rolling around and i showed you panch him the tiger i was like see how he's flicking his tail he's going to attack would it take 30 seconds from when i said that and he attacked if you don't study those animals though whether that's reading or personal observation or anything you'd never know that so i can see by looking at these guys body language that animal's completely relaxed you can go right up to the glass he might want to play with you but he's not going to attack you panch him with the way he was hunched and his tail was flicking that means he's aggressive but by then it's too late right it's too late like today we were walking by a tiger uh a tiger and it completely just charged the fence yeah it's crazy like everyone shit their pants dude ain't he went flying i actually had to go to

bathroom wipe a little bit, honestly. I think Gamble's did too for sure. Have you, have you been in the ocean with great whites? Oh yeah. In the water. Oh yeah. I'll take you by my house in Santa Barbara to do that. To swim with great whites? Yeah. I don't know if I could do that. It's pretty gnarly. You got to be in clear water. You got to judge the animals. Like, how are they behaving? What's your body language? And then that's, that's my biggest fear of sharks. But at the end of the day, it's a risk no matter what. Yeah. No way. Like, I don't care if you're freaking ocean Ramsey or any of these people who are like the best shark divers in the world every single time you get in the water where the shark gets a risk the shark can just change its mind just like

people yeah like if you're like all right i'm going to spar with somebody today ever or start a bar fight let's say it might be one in a thousand might be one in a million but at some point somebody's going to pull out a knife you know what i mean and that's how sharks are that's our animals are you can just find one that's just in a bad mood and i've had a few of those where the shark just comes right at me full speed. Can you tell us the crazy shark story? Oh, yeah, sure. Let's see, what's my craziest shark story? My crazy shark story is probably when I was working with this tiger shark in the Maldives, and it was coming in and it was circling around. And I was like, okay, it's pretty chill. This is like a super wild tiger. It's never had people around. And all of a

sudden, it like fucking took off. And I was like, oh, that was weird. Like it sped off at full speed. And I looked over my shoulder. And as I looked over my shoulder, this huge female tiger shark. I'm talking like 16, 17 feet, two-ton tiger shark come swimming in and bumps the back of my head with her, with her nose. And she was moving relatively slowly, but her eyes had rolled back in her head. So she was just there to bite. And as I did that, I went like that and like pushed her up and literally another millisecond and she would have like crunched into my head. But I somehow had my hand in like a good spot to close her jaw from the bottom and push her head up. And yeah, just luckily didn't take my head off.

That's so fuck. yeah i don't see i don't know like yeah with animals it's just so crazy because it's it's so out of your control steve irwin said it best right he's like he was referring to crocodiles but he goes animals crocodiles are easy they just want to fucking kill you people are much more complicated because they pretend to be your friend first and it's it's so true if you kind of live by that and just just read the situation it's like yeah i got it i know with a crocodile he wants to eat me the whole time there's no world in which he doesn't same with these things and that was that your closest call ever with an animal man i've had some pretty pretty gnarly ones i'm trying to think what else i mean

i got bitten by a snake that was pretty bad when i was younger um didn't wasn't there very close call with a lion oh yeah see it's so it's like it all fucking fades out now yeah i was darting lions in zimbabwe and southern zimbabwe and um i was tracking this big male lion to collar him on foot and I put a dart into him and I was like all right he's he's going down and then I tracked him for like another five minutes and I was like oh he's falling asleep let's move in and basically as I reloaded the dart to move in

he took off and came right at me and I just hit the ground flat I was in full camo and he was like drunk from the drugs but he wasn't out and he almost walked over me before I shot him again with the second dart I mean it was really close that's fucking insane I was nuts we went up to I don't want to say it Rajakesh. I think it's something like that. Oh, yeah. It was insanely beautiful. We met the, like,

we met a monk there. We did whitewater rafting. Oh, really? And then in bomb, yeah, we did white water. How was that? We met like a monk. Oh, sick. Have you ever, like, interacted with? I don't think so. So this guy, he was pretty much in like, on Osama bin Laden cave, like straight up. Oh, I saw the picture. Super skinny old guy with the beer. So we walk up, we're in like the middle of the mountains and we walk through a forest. And then he's in like this one, like, tomb. Like, like, we literally had to crawl to get in and it was like pretty much pitch black in there and then we had to crawl through like another cave and then he was in like an underground tunnel and he lives there and he lives there and he was just like kind of had like white ashes on his face and he was just completely

like meditating like and he does it all day that's wild so we got to sit with him and like kind of talk to him about why he chose that lifestyle and stuff but did he talk to you was he yeah he talked to us but like we were sitting by him at first and like he didn't move a muscle Like, he was just completely in his zone. No, you've had more crazy India experiences. Because I just come here for this. I just come here for the animals. You guys have seen and done way more than I have in India.

It's pretty crazy. What's the craziest part of your whole trip so far? I mean, that was pretty cool. There's been, like, we've gotten to see both sides now. Like, now we've seen the spiritual side, which was that, which was really cool. We got to talk to him. Baba, I guess he's a Baba. That's what they call it.

I don't know. Does that mean father? I don't know what it means. Huh. But, yeah. I mean, it was pretty cool. We talked to him. I guess so his thing is, I guess, in the Hindu religion, if you reach enlightenment, that means you won't be reincarnated.

I don't know if that's completely accurate, but that's what he was so, he feels like he's, that's why he meditates pretty much 24-7 is because he's like, he thinks he's reached that point in life. Oh, boy, like Salim. Oh, yeah. Actually, probably complete opposite of Salim. Sleem's complete opposite of Baba, pretty much. But we actually have, like, a pretty good fan base here, too, which is crazy. We went to the club the other night and they like shut it down at 1.15 a.m.

Like the cops pulled up. Like I guess they'd never seen any energy like that. Oh, no way. The fans were just like fucking nuts. Dude, I'm in our group text and you're like, bro, there's some guy knocking on my door like 4.30 in the morning. Fans are finding our room and calling us and stuff. It's cool.

Yeah, I've been called the go to broie conservationist. Like I'm... You really are for sure. Like you fit in with us so well. Like you are definitely an honorary knellk. I'll take it. You're like a knelt uncle as well. Yes, Nelke.

You, Dana White. Yeah. Yeah. But I love that, dude. And like, I am a bro and you guys are bros and we hit it off immediately. So I was like, bring these guys, man. Like, they're my friends. They'll love it here.

Yeah. Show people animals. Like, I get a kick out of showing you guys stuff. Yeah. And I know that that translates on camera. Yeah. So how did you become close with Joe? He hit me up on Instagram out of the blue.

And he's like, bro, you have the coolest Instagram in the world. Come tell some stories on my podcast. This is like back in the day. When was the first time you ever went on there? 2017 or 18 it's been a minute yeah i'd have to check that but it's been a while and he was like just come just come hang out in the pod and it was already a big pod don't get me wrong but it wasn't like what it is today right and uh we hung out we ran on the pod and afterwards he's like dude i'm obsessed with wolves i was like do you want me to meet some wolves he's like no way i was like yeah i'm

friends of the guys who run the wolf center in california and i was like yeah he's like when can we go i was like wednesday i'm in i'll cancel everything so i grabbed him and we went and saw wolves and had a great day. We've just been friends ever since. Where, like, where'd you guys go for that? It's called Wolf Connection. It's in, like, outside of L.A., like two hours outside of L.A.,

and they just rescue wolves. Like, people get wolves as pets and think it's dope, but they live in, like, West Hollywood, and then a wolf is in, like, a one-bedroom apartment. And so they just rescue all these wolves. And so I took them to meet some wolves there. What'd you guys do? Do you guys, like, play with them and stuff?

Yeah, play wolves. I'll show you photos. We're scruffing them up and throwing, like, treats for them, and, you know, full on, because a lot of them were hand-raised. that's crazy and then you guys just stayed friends after that and he'll text me anytime he's like this is like is this real like is this a real wildlife story like recently we're talking about like the largest crocodile in history and i was explaining to him how like crocodiles grow until they

die it just slows down so there could be 25 foot crocodiles it just have to be really old and he's like where would that be and you know he like he's it's similar to a knot he's another wildlife nerd like he'll just text me wildlife nerd questions and like it's really cool that I've formed this, like, click of friends like Joe Rogan, Anod and Bonnie, and, you know, a handful of others who are just super passionate about animals. That's the thing we all have in common. Like, my life, Joe's life, and Anat's life could not be more separate. But if we're in a room together, we're talking about one thing. And so it brings us all together.

Yeah. It's crazy. Like, yeah, Joe's gotten so big, too. It was crazy to just see how much of an impact, too, he played at the end of the election and stuff like that. Yeah, I mean. Trump was. I was so happy that he had Trump. was that the first time that a president's ever been on a podcast it probably is right maybe this election cycle

but it was in my opinion and undeniably a deciding factor for the election i think it was everything yeah i think the fact that trump went on joe rogan and kamala didn't go on joe rogan totally i think that showed everybody totally that trump was capable of like because like jo's such a trusted guy yeah like you know that he's not going to sell out or he's not going to like be fake like he's going to ask real questions too. And I think the fact that Trump went on his show and like Kamala didn't, in my opinion, I think it was like a huge deciding factor. I think so too. And I mean, it was it was sort of like how real is this guy? Exactly. Right? Because that's what Joe Rogan is. You know, if you said if you could sit down with Joe Rogan, it's just like. Just a conversation.

It's just a conversation. Yeah. And yeah. And you know, whether they were good candidates or bad candidates, you never really knew who Kamala Harris was because you didn't listen to a three hour conversation. with her ever like as far as i was aware so yeah it just like it made people be like oh this guy's a good guy and it's just yeah it's just crazy like i think it got what 40 million plus i don't know yeah like for i don't know just for such a normal guy to have that type of influence it's like crazy it's crazy yeah i mean the world's the world's changing and and and for what you do and what i do like the media landscape it's really changing i did all my come up in television and i'm still making TV shows. We got a bunch of series, a bunch of Shark Weeks and stuff coming out this year,

but that's circling the drain. Yeah, that's on its way out. And I'm having way more fun doing this stuff. Yeah. Dude, if I wasn't rolling around with you guys and the boys with the cameras today, like, that's way more fun than doing Discovery Channel show. 100%. Yeah. What we do is prank each other and have fun all day. Are you kidding me? How is so you're doing Shark Week this year? Yeah, two of them. So what is that, what does that consist of this year? We got two different shows. The first one's in Australia, and it's for a franchise that I've had for a number of years that really looks at like odd and bizarre sharks. I have to be careful what I say before they come out, but I mean, they take every view they can get at this point, I would say. But yeah, so that's

a franchise I've had for three years now. And then the second one's an all new concept that'll be in Florida. And do you like, do you enjoy doing stuff like that still? Or you like doing the more the media stuff now? I like doing both of it. I mean, Shark Week's still media. It's big, you know, it's a big TV thing, but Shark Week's fun, man. It's big production, big crew, a lot of people, you know, real budget, big boats. Like we fly on helicopters and get, like, giant boats that we charter, like yachts that we live aboard for up to a month at a time. Like, it's a real expedition.

Like, one in South Florida isn't, but most of our other ones are like big deals. Fuckers are going ham. Oh, yeah. Look at them, having some games over there. You just do the weirdest shit. Like the other day I hit Forest up, I'm like, what are you doing this week? Like, we're trying to figure out to do something or not? And you're like, oh, I got to go, do you like castrate hippos in Columbia or some shit?

Yep. So I've been working with the Colombian government. Coronare is the organization. And they're in charge with trying to create a solution with the cocaine hippos. So Pablo Escobar imported, he had a private zoo at Haciennapolis, which was like his big base. He imported four hippos. and when he got gunned down by his enemies they took all the animals and moved him to zoos but they're like we can't move these hippos are going to kill somebody so they just open the gates and let them out those four hippos have now multiplied over 200 and growing like that number exponentially increases every year because they're reproducing so fast because hippos are from africa they're not from columbia so cornare i'm friends with the guys that are in charge of that and stuff and they're like would you please come help us create a plan to solve this problem So I was like, yeah, no problem.

So me and the boys flew down there, built bomas, which are big, big giant traps and caught hippos and cut their nuts off. Did you guys film that or no? Oh, yeah. Filmed it all. Are you going to put that out on YouTube? No, it's a discovery show, yeah. That's fucking nuts.

It's pretty wild. It's a rodeo, too, because that's got to be one of the weirdest things you've done, no? It's pretty weird. Is there another weird request that you've ever got? Weirder than cutting nuts off of hippos. I mean, no, that's probably the top. Did you have to cut it yourself? No, we do full field surgeries.

okay so you tranquilize them yeah put them down because you kind of move a hippo and you have to do it overnight because it's too hot there during the day so if you tranquilize them during the day they cook and die they overheat and die so you got dart them at night and then you're literally doing surgery from like 7 p.m. until like 2 3 in the morning and like if it's female female castration is way more complicated so it's like big incision full on like castration and close them up and if it's a male you just kind of um but yeah it's it's pretty wild and hippos are a rodeo like they charge at you and we're building these like pretty shitty bomas the bomas collapse it's crazy damn so that's got to be the craziest thing or like the weirdest request you've ever gotten dude i mean you know catching hippos

cutting their nuts off looking for lost species uh finding eggs of really rare things to try and hatch them and bring them back like reintroducing animals into the wild it's it's just a full gamut and i'll do any of them i have time for is there a rare species you think that exists that you're like searching for you know i spent a lot of time working on on animals that were believed extinct and i found eight of them eight animals that had previously been lost to science and those expeditions are so taxing like you spend months in the field and hundreds of game cameras and like thousands of hours and it takes huge amounts of money to do those expeditions so i used to focus on them a lot i'd love to do more in the future but for now i've sort of like opened the umbrella of conservation i would rather be

here helping reintroduce 42 spix macaws back into the wild than looking for the last spix macaw do you know what i mean like finding the last one is amazing it makes me feel cool as the guy who found it and all of that but putting 42 of them back into the wild that's like fixing the problem that's yeah that's more useful but is there any like rare spick like is there any truth to like bigfoot or lockness monster i don't think so i have a theory about lockness monster what it's a whale's dick really i think so so what some scottish job I was just out there hammered and you just saw whales dick. Bro, I got to show you this picture.

I don't know if you want to do phones on the pod, but it's, I have this side by side that I'll show you. And when whales get an erection, they have this long ass, like, red rock. Whales have huge horns? Huge, huge. And I am fairly certain that some whales have come into the lock because it's connected and rolled over being horny.

And at sunset, people are seeing this giant pink serpent and going, yeah, that's the lock nest monster. look at this thing hold on i'll show you guys could put it on the pod just what i wanted to do on a monday night in india look at a whale's cock dude wait till you see it though tell me that's not the logness monster though damn right that does look like the lockness monster look at that sucker it was just a whale's cock the whole it's whale dick bro i'm telling you holy fuck that makes sense how about bigfoot there's no truth to bigfoot no i don't think so people get so upset every time i say that because

there's so many bigfoot fanatics but i don't think so And there's, like, science behind that. You know, there has never been a great ape in North America. Bigfoot would be an ape. That's what it would be, right? Like a gorilla or something. There's never been, there's no primates in North America. There are new world primates and old world primates.

Primates start in basically Central America. There's never been monkeys in North America. There's nothing for a big foot to evolve from. There's no skeletal remains. There's never been one hit on a road. Like, there's just nothing there. How about aliens? Are you an alien guy or no?

I'm pretty into aliens. Yeah. Do you, like, do any work or research in that type of? No, no, not at all. I just, I think it's, I think it's crazy to assume that we're the only life in the universe. I think that's insane. Now, I don't think there's, like, little green men floating around in spaceships, like, living under the sea or anything. But I think to think that we're the only living, this is the only planet that houses live in an infinite number of planets is just bonkers crazy.

Do you think aliens have been here already? Because there's a lot of, not evidence, but, like, in the infinite number of planets. but like in the Egyptian times and stuff like that, all the paintings and... I feel like there's a good chance that even pre-human time, something may have been here, whether that was aliens or civilizations that evolved before us or something like that. But I don't know. I'm a wildlife biologist. It's like outside of my realm. I just know that life can exist in other forms. I'll give you a perfect example. The bottom of the ocean, we always thought human beings, since the beginning of our time, understanding life,

always thought that the only reason we can live is because of sunlight, right? sunlight where the perfect proximity from the sun and the sunlight creates all life all life on earth is tied to the sun it was only like 12 years ago now that they sent a submarine down to some deep sea volcano and there's an entire ecosystem not one or two species but entire ecosystems thriving do that never get any sunlight entirely based off of hydrothermal vents so like hot water coming out of the sea ocean and they're like oh life here has evolved completely independently of sunlight. And we didn't know that. And we just found like seven thousand new species living down here. It's basically like a whole other planet. So everything we've ever understood up until

that point about life is required for our planet to be a certain distance from the sun to create an atmosphere, blah, blah, it's just like, nah, that's not true. So, so when you look at Pluto and you go, oh, nothing could live at Pluto, well, that's the same as saying nothing could live at the bottom of the ocean. You know what I mean? It's like there's a whole new planet down there. The earth is such a crazy place. Crazy. What's your theory on like life? Are you religious? Are you like science-based? I'm not religious at all. I think when you die, you die, but the only thing that I really believe in is karma.

I think if you plan to do good in the world and put good out there, you get rewarded. I think the reason I've been successful is because I have given up countless relationships, friendships, money, everything to try and serve a higher purpose of conservation and save animals. And I swear, that's the reason that I have a happy life. And I have been financially successful. So I've given everything to this one thing. I would say that's true for business and success too.

I think if you set out with a goal to just do what you're best at and do that to the best of your ability. Or like, you know, if it's us, just worry about making people laugh. Yeah. The money always comes. That was all our strategy too. I think if you focus on that, it always works out, right? What's your standpoint on religion? I've never asked you that.

I believe in God. Yeah? I just think that like, I don't know. I think this earth is too crazy. crazy too beautiful just like it just seems like someone created all this yeah there's just too much insane things like in terms of like natural beauty like when you see like a sunset or like when we're on the island we see like we look out at 5 a.m and we see a fucking double rainbow with dolphins jumping in it i don't know it's just like yeah i don't see how that could be an accident

no it seems like someone like it's just too beautiful to be an accident i love that i don't know i mean the world is perfect there's no there's no evidence but it's just like i don't know it doesn't matter who cares it's interesting too how like humans we think we're so smart but like also no one can kind of claim how we got here like we don't even know no we know we know very little i feel like which kind of shows how dumb we are at the same time right it really does yeah and and what a blip of time we've been here for if you think about the earth is millions of years old or if you are you know very religious 2 000 years old whatever 4 000 years old but no matter how you slice it humans have been here for like a blip of time it's fucking iPhones weren't around when we

were kids yeah you know I mean and now it's like our whole life's on that thing like it's like we've happened like that what's your ultimate goal with everything you're doing and like where do you see do you see yourself ever like retiring or do you think you'll just do this till you're till you drop dead like David Attenborough is what 94 96 now and this is all he does I mean I can't imagine ever not doing this to be honest but every day feels like work to me and at the same time no day feel like work. Yeah. So I don't, I'm not like, oh, I get home at 9 p.m.

And I'm like, what a stressful day. I'm exhausted. I have plenty of those days. But then I wake up the next day. And by 9 a.m., I'm like, I got to go back to doing that thing. I love it. I don't ever see retiring. I love doing what I'm doing.

My ultimate goal, I used to be like, I'm going to change the world. I'm going to save all these species. I actually sounds terrible. I probably never said this out a lot. I do still care about that. And I still want to save species as much as I can. My ultimate goal is just to have a kid, which happens to me it happens to me every day in my life a kid a student in school an old grandma something go

hey because of you i now care more about animals that's it if every if every person that i can touch as many people as i can touch as possible decide that they're going to like animals a little bit more fall in love with wildlife a little bit more once you care about something you want to protect it and once we all want to protect it it'll change the world so all i care about at this point in my life is turning those individuals into people that care. That's dope. I think you're doing a great job. Oh, thanks, man.

All right. Well, we appreciate you for us. And we just want to say thank you, too, to Mr. Embani. This trip so far, and it's not even done yet. We still have, we're going to a wedding Friday. We're going back to Mumbai. We have so much plan. We just want to say thank you so much.

India has blown away my expectations. When we posted, we were coming here, everyone's like, why are you going there? Why are you going there? Like, no one understood. and I think until you come and like see it and like meet the people like the people are so nice amazing amazing people um I think you just got to come and experience it and then Vantara you guys just got to wait for the NELC video to come out because what you're seeing here is just a little taste but we're filming an entire NELC um India video that has everything in it it'll probably

be out the end of February so thank you so much and Forrest we appreciate you I mean this opportunity's been insane. And I feel like, yeah, Forrest is pretty much a knelt boy now. So we have like two more videos playing. You go one in like a month. We have one in a month. We won't say what it is. It's kind of similar to our bachelor video. It's another spin-off of like a reality show. And then are we doing Antarctica in November? I'm working on it. I'm working on it. So we're just going to keep doing these adventures with Forrest. We fucking love him. He's like a knelk uncle as well, honorary knelt boy. And we're going to have some fun this year. We appreciate you, bro. I'm so stoked you're here. Let's get it. And really, really quick, before we get into it, boys, Folesend.com, we have some brand new pieces.

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