FULL SEND PODCAST - Fyre Festival x Nelk Boys | Ep. 65

Episode Date: November 25, 2022

Fyre Festival's Billy McFarland on Untold Stories About Jail, Partying with Models and Scamming! Presented by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer. Find Happy Dad near you http://happydad.com/find (21+ only). Video is available on http://youtube.com/fullsendpodcast/videos. Follow Nelk Boys on Instagram http://instagram.com/nelkboys. Part of the Shots Podcast Network (shots.com). You can listen to the audio version of this podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & anywhere you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We want out, we want out, we want out, we want out. Bro, listen. Should we just do an episode real quick? Let's just go. Let's just do it. No, no cuts, no edits. We don't need Kyle. Fuck the guests right now.

This is me and you right now. I came to talk to you. I flew New York just to talk to you. Let's talk. Where's my fucking money? Well, let's not get that deal right now. You only 500. You know that.

No. You won 500 back. But you only 500 bucks. And my watch. Do I owe you 500 bucks? Yeah. you're wait yeah okay you're right we'll deal with that later i have your watch but i know i'm scared to say anything if i piss you off i'm not going to get it back no no no you had my watch

for a month bro well it wasn't planned it wasn't by plan just sitting in my bag i got you 100% but more importantly let's talk about you let's talk about me what's going on in your life right now man shit nah you know living living the dream living living the dream really it's a real traveling happy dad happy dad baby let's go yeah you're so stupid i want to roach you so bad all the time nah i don't feel i'm done with it i'm done with it honestly i got my first dub to last week i don't know if you heard you got your first dub yeah on what the sophia video you actually got a dub i got a dub first time in life first time he's ever got a dub very ultra uncommon rare dub extremely 22K likes, yeah, extremely old

linear never will happen again. I gotta tell you, catching dubs is way better than catching else. I don't know, man, because like, L's kind of fits you. I know, that's a problem. I say, I know, but I can't take L's anymore. I think part of, like, that you've taken so many Ls

makes the, the dubs just maybe feel a little bit better. Bro, it's insane. Because if you got a ton of dubs all the time, it's just like, it also wouldn't be the same. Easy. Maybe daily. Probably, like, two, two or three. A day.

I mean, dude, you'd say some. that we'd cut out of this podcast because like you were like bro please don't put that in like i fucked up yeah wait what was the one thing i took out oh yas yaws queen yeah thank god you really took that out huh yes can we please run that clip no that was two or three days of depression from seeing what people said about that yeah you would have they would it's funny bro but i would take a huge massive hell for that that would have been one of the biggest sales you've ever taken it would have got clip seriously i'm not i'm not even playing it would have been clip got millions of views which would have been funny, though. Like on TikTok, it would have went viral. Guarantee. It was one of the

funniest things you've ever said. That's why I want to post the Drake thing, but I'm not going to post it because I'm going to get roasted. Why not? So I'm going to get roasted for that. Who cares? It's kind of part of your character. It's funny, man. I know. That's my favorite. That's my favorite trend right now, too. So we're interviewing McFarlane. McFarly. Right? Yeah. The fuck's Kyle. I'm going to bed after this straight up. I literally flew in. I'm tired. I didn't sleep at all last night. Flew straight in for this. I thought we were doing a different pod, be honest. Today, I thought it was a different pod.

Well, you're, you being the best in the game. I'm sure you can... Everything literally off top. I'm sure you can... Oh, this is like you trying to flex this right now. This is me 100%. I had no idea until 15 minutes ago. Obviously, I'm still going to crush it.

I text you, I was talking about the power we were going to do, and I was like, oh, I thought it was, you know, the other guy that we had talked about. And then you guys just put it on me last minute. I was like, bad. What do you know about this, dude? I mean if a quick Google search he's a con artist

apparently so that's what they say that's what they say I want to ask him about it the media controls a narrative though you know that yeah which isn't yeah a little interesting

it'd be cool to get a different perspective on the whole thing for sure but I mean we do know that it like it did end terribly convicted so it's a little different yeah that's not media narrative there yeah it's conviction so

but I'm excited to hear about it for sure what's new with you anything complicated my life a little bit you know aren't you opening another gym yeah we are we're opening the gym um in insino haven hearse and ventura it'll be open in the next can be open the next three weeks but we're probably going to do like a grand opening sometime like mid to late december you know like a new year's thing january i'm excited about that is that closer to your crib a little further away from the crib but closer to like everyone else like in the in the the rest of the valley and also like south county so people can get there faster from the four or five

um and then i'm looking at texas i might have to have a red bull can you drink caffeine like that and go to bed no i'll be up all night and why are you doing it because i need to perform just perform dude will share willpower i do have willpower but i'm tired and it will make it a lot easier if i just drink some of that yeah but then you won't sleep you're just going to be up all night you want to kick it huh you want to hang out no why we're just going to make it worse every time what floor are you on dude don't worry about what floor i'm not going to say what fucking, you're going to knock my door and be like, Brad, Brad, are you up? Yeah.

You'd be that guy we were just talking about Jake. What's wrong with that? That's what fucking friends do, bro. They hang out. Yeah, well, not when I'm fucking asleep and you're fucking wired on caffeine. You're trying to pillow talk with me. Apparently, something you do with your boys. No, I mean, if I share a room with somebody on a trip, then yeah, we're probably talking.

You are the guy in the car. You were saying Jacob was you're the guy that's like, hey, hey, Brad, are you up? Are you up right? Brad, Brad, are you up at me? I would do that trolling purposes. you would. You guys sincerely because you'd have some sort of heartache that you want to talk about the middle of the night. And honestly, I respect it. What's wrong with a heart to heart like that? Dude, nothing. Nothing. I respect it. I know how it feels. I do it all the time with Jacob.

Heart to heart is where I'm like complaining about my life and shit. You know. Is Jacob your go-to guy for that? Do you have a go-to person for that? Well, long story short. Not anymore. Not right now. Yeah. At least you had somebody. Yeah. I don't really got that. Yeah. It just turns into depression pod. Let's go. Oh, my God. You think you're that kind of an actor?

Like, could you do, could you do tears on demand? I could think about some stuff that would make me emotional, yeah. I don't know how on demand, but I could. You ever done that for the content? No. No, I normally just do it because, like, I'm just actually emotional. What's up, squad? Look who it is.

This is lit, bro. Look who it is. That's good. There's a lot of people here. You fired up. dude i'm just like i honestly i look at all these people i'm like are we rolling yeah what's i think we're where are we i don't know i don't know studio we're here though it's a lot of i just wonder if they're getting paid or it's like huh all these people oh yeah whatever i don't go fuck what's good

i just watched i just watched the documentary on the way here it's lit i've never seen it before i've heard about it but i've never seen it this is the first time you've actually got like all the details on it or what no i mean i heard about it in the news and shit but i for some reason. I don't know. I just never got around to watch it, bro. You loki would have thrown up a feeder if the bag was right. What? You would have thrown up a feeder for promoting the event? Yeah, if the bag was right. What's up? Who got a Kendall? Kendall got a big bag, right? How are you? How are you? We just go for it. Yeah, you just jump in. Yeah, fuck it. What's up? Hi. Good to meet you. Yes, sir. So where, where, where are we right now? Is this

New York? Why know that? We're in New York. No, like, what is this? Studio. This is He's my friend's studio. Oh, okay, sweet. Yeah, he's super nice to host us. Hell yeah, thank you guys. You can pull that out. Guys, like literally first time trying a podcast since attempting one miserably in jail and going to solitary for seven months.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. So this is your first podcast? No, you did that one. Dude, like, I've been trying to do a podcast for five years. So I hope I have some time today because, holy shit. Well, thanks for choosing false-in podcast. This is pretty fucking. You got to tell us about the one from jail.

Literally went from solitary confinement podcast to my favor in the world. So literally, I just don't believe I'm here. So seriously, thank you guys. Like super, super cool. Huge fans. What was that one called, the one that you were doing? Wow. So we had these pay phones and we got these 15 minute phone calls.

But you had to wait 30 minutes between each call. So I had this podcast host essentially fly to my buddy's house. And I was calling in all day. We released a trailer on my Instagram. I have like zero followers, like literally. And an hour after the trailer comes out, they take me out of my cell and put me in solitary confinement for seven months.

Seven? Seven months. Because you're doing the podcast. Because I tried to do a podcast. Did you get, I thought you completed an episode or a few, right? I think they launched one episode from Solitary, but I had no idea what was going on.

And didn't you know you were going to get caught though, like once it got out? I was so stupid. But hold on, hold on. I was wrong. Wait, what was the, what was the podcast about? So I was trying to tell like the past stories. Got it. And I felt like, hey, I can make a couple of dollars, pay some restitution from jail.

Like, no one pays restitution from jail. Get to work on the restitution. Yeah, like, what's going to take me? It's a lot of fucking work. It's going to take me a while. Why not start now? What was solitary confinement like? Brutal.

So first of all, it's like this long concrete hallway of these nine by eight cells. So I'm all alone to my cell. And a lawyer starts complaining after a few weeks. he's being alone. He's like, all right, McFarland, you want to sell me? Yeah, yeah, no problem. I hear these guys screaming through their metal doors, oh, you got bags, you got bags. So I have no idea who bags is. This guy comes in, he's like, hey, I'm bags. They call me bags because they got a lot of money. And I hear all these guys screaming, that's not true. That's not true. So the guy got into a shootout with the cops and lost his colon, but they never gave him like the colon

bags. It's like, this is literally my bed and that's a toilet. He has to shit every 30 minutes around the clock. So it's not solitary, so you're not by yourself. So you did, I did half the time by myself and half the time with a cellmate, but you can't leave your cell. So this guy is literally taking a shit every 30 minutes for like two months around the clock, just right next to him where I'm slipping. Holy shit.

You never get any daylight at all. That's what solitary is. Due to COVID, they let us go to a cage outside that was, you know, the size of this set for one hour once a week. So for six days, you couldn't leave. And you did all seven months? Seven months, yeah. Straight on.

What does that, like, what does that, like, what does that, do to your mind. That's like a scary fucking, like, I think the worst part, how do you get through that? Yeah, just like not knowing when it was going to end. Yeah. And like the cops would fuck with you. It's like, how long am I going to be here? Like, oh, you're never getting out of here McFarland. Like, fuck you're like, like the mental mind fuck and you just start thinking the whole world is against you. And I have nothing, but like I would have bet almost every single one of those days that I wasn't getting out because like you have no one to balance your ideas off of, right? So like you start just going crazy. So yeah, being here.

It's fucking wild. What did you do while you were in there? I wrote, you know, learned to meditate, read a lot, and do this guy's shit every 30 minutes. Yeah, and, like, tried to put together a game plan for what do I want to do. You know, dodging, dodging bags. Shout out to bags. He's a great guy, but. So his bags still locked up?

Bags got out shortly before me, so I hope he's doing well. Probably shitting right now. I hope he's watching. He's probably taking a dump, bags. So we got to, obviously, we've got to take it back to, you know, everything that kind of had happened. For sure. Can I try a happy dad by the way? Yeah, yeah.

Absolutely. What, uh, what, what is it like when you're, you know that you're Googled and the first thing that comes up and says you're a con artist? What is that like? Because how do you do business and how do you move forward and, you know, like how would you create a deal with someone now where it's like they know your past, they know your history, which we'll get into, I'm assuming as a podcast goes on. But that right away, I'm like, you know, if I was going to do business with you or do anything

with you and you Google it. It's like, those guys are con artist, you know? So it's, I've literally been out. not for just over two months, August 30th. It was like my completion of my sentence. Damn. Yeah. So I was sheltered in so many ways, right?

Because I was in jail for just around four years. A lot of that in solitary. A lot of that with no access to a phone or any like outside communication. So I never saw these documentaries. Like I wasn't on Google. And I talked to friends and they're like, dude, it's going to take you longer and people longer to like come to terms of what happened. and I'm like trying to recognize that I had five years like since all this went to

shit to like feel my own remorse but I just missed like this whole title wave of bullshit like I wasn't there to read the DMs and the angry emails right and like friends and family were so that's been like a big eye opener to me I'm like oh I'm going to walk out and people are going to remember like I can program and I can mark it so I'm going to do something cool but it's like oh wait I missed years and years of just backlash yeah so what is it like getting that backlash now? Like, how do you move forward? Are you meant, does it mentally fuck you up? Or you're just like, in some respect, it's like super, super motivating. Yeah. And I think that just meeting with childhood friends, like since getting out of jail has been the biggest mind fuck. I think in like some

respects, even people who I was close with were almost like happy to see the punishment I had to go through because they were like, hey, we did everything right. We didn't break the rules. You went to college, like we didn't fuck up. And like, why are you able to do this kind of thing? And we weren't. They're always like happy to see me down. And a lot of the advice I get from those people is like, dude, you just can't do anything. And it's like they try to assign each like the most menial tasks. Or as you talk to more like entrepreneurial people. And it's like, if you just go for it, but go for it honestly, there's no shame. So if you fail the next time, but you do it like ethically right and you don't lie to anybody, you don't hurt anybody,

like fucking go and do it. So it's been like this weird like trying to understand, people's motivations and realizing that very few people out there can, like, give you advice that's best for you. Like, they give you advice that is best for them. Based on what they know. What they think is possible. But like very few people, even the ones who love you are often like the most restrained, at least in my perspective in terms of giving you good advice. Did a lot of people cut ties with you? For sure. And the weirdest thing is like who did and who didn't. And so many who I thought would like be there every day just totally disappear and said fuck off. And people who I thought would be the first to run didn't so once again like total crazy learning experience when did you

watch so you said you didn't see the documentary when did you actually see it i never watched them you've never seen it no i just watched it for the first thing oh really on the way how bad i mean i don't know it's pretty entertaining well aren't you curious to see like you lost some weight you look yeah it was so fat oh it was bad you did lose weight aren't you curious don't you want to see like maybe what you think is inaccurate in there yeah so i think like when they came out i was really early on in my sentence and my initial reaction would have been like oh that's not true that's true and like I don't want to be in that mindset where I just couldn't do anything about it so I just like try to protect myself and whether right or wrong I think that was my initial response I mean you're

having a good time in there yeah like you're partying you're with models and you're on a jet ski a lot on a yacht yeah I guess like in your words what really happened what really went wrong so like if you can take it back a little bit yeah I think that would be yeah so yeah what made you want to like do that. So I started just like programming when I was really young. I was like nine or 10 years old. And I almost like viewed it as this world with very little rules. And I kept saying like, hey, there's this huge problem. And if I keep trying to push this problem, I can push like what was possible. Started a couple companies in middle school and high school, sold them, went to college and basically ran out of the cash that I got from selling my early companies, my first semester of

college. I'm like, fuck. You say you sold a company in middle school? Yeah, started my first company in seventh grade, sold it, and then did a couple more. What was that? What did you sell in seventh grade? So I had a company called your hot site. It's a funny story. I tried to create like a private social network for middle schools. So I did it from my middle school. And five days after it launched, had like, you know, just like the local middle school buzzing. The principal basically called and it's like, internet's unsafe. You got to get rid of this website. So I went to put it up for auction online, sold the site. And years later, when I was applying for college. It was on my resume. And like the dean of the school was applying for,

pulls it up on its computer. And it had been sold a couple times since then. It became like this porn site, like this porn social networking site. What did you sell for originally? So it wasn't much. That was a couple thousand dollars, but there were some, there was some sites. That's a fat bag for a seventh grader. It's a cool thing in the school at that point. Yeah. So that was fun. And it just started getting bigger and bigger. And then basically went to college with, you know, a couple dollars in a suitcase and just like went wild and just didn't know what it could do with, with money, right? And blew all of it in the first semester. It's like, fuck, I got to get back

to programming. And that started, you know, this eight-year run of what would eventually become fire and prison and then being here. Wait, price, okay. I'm just picturing you rocking like a Louis Vuitton backpack. I didn't know what that was. You went really far from like middle school to like college. And that's a very long time. Like what other companies, what other involvements did you have that you actually made money from? The credit card. Yeah, the credit card. So before all that in high school, I guess my biggest win before college was a company called 24 scene. I love the TV show 24. So I made a content network or basically people could

share and discuss their favorite things about 24. I ended up replicating that across like a dozen TV shows and sold to a company called Buddy TV out of Seattle. And I was 15. But I wasn't old enough to like have a bank account. And like my PayPal account was shut down because it's underage. So I had this like essential middleman partner who took the money and he would Western union me cash every two weeks. So throughout like the last two years in my high school, I would like, you know, go to the hood and go to the Western Union and, like, get my cash and save it up until college. That really set me off.

Damn. And then how did you, like, what started fire? So before fire, I started a company called Magnesis. And what I was trying to do was build a black card that was more relevant for young kids in cities. I was 22 years old, like, doing a startup in New York, and all the amics, like, travel, business perks just, like, weren't relevant to me. yet. I just wasn't there yet in my life. So I wanted a black card. Couldn't get it, but I also

wanted a black card that was more relevant for me. So I went on Alibaba before it was really like mainstream and bought this like sheet of black metal and just bought like a credit card copier, literally off Alibaba. I was in the office for my first startup. I just copied like my shitty blue like Chase debit card with like 80 bucks on it onto this black card, went and used at the pizza place across the street and the guy's like behind the counter dropping it, looking it up in the air. like, oh, this thing's fucking sweet. And I was in the second ever we work at the time.

So I started showing the card off to all the companies in the we work and people wanted to buy it. And like, magnesis was just born. Before I knew it, I was selling these black cards open up a couple of spaces

for members to connect and just started building a company. They were just cards that were just based off of existing cards. Yeah. So like the cool part was like we took no financial risk and you could have your Amex

with whatever your limit on it was or you could have your chase card with 20 bucks. So it just visually look cooler. What were the perks too, right? That perks too. So we had a physical space in New York where people can come and like hang out and like get together work parties. Then we partner with a lot of venues and brands. So like a venue would

come to us and say, hey, we'd love to host your members for, you know, a nightclub night, a concert, you know, fitness class, whatever. They would pay us. We would get a cool experience and market to our customers. And that was your, that was your more successful business? Yeah. So Magnus was going. Like, Magnusus did real revenue at the time. And Fire like slowly came at a magnetis, and it really started from two ways. One, I got a call from one of our people who was working at the townhouse. And she's like, hey, this guy's here, he works. What's the townhouse? It was like our member, sorry, it was like our member space for magnesium. Okay. She's like, this guy's here. He works at Google. He says he flies planes, and I kind of believe him, like,

you got to come by. So went and met this guy and, you know, still friends to this day, like, the smartest guy I've ever met. He's like, yeah, I had this little forest theater airplane and got like six buddies to do too. We do trips to like random crib. And I, islands. Like, you should totally do it for your members. So I'm like, oh, so this is where the idea is started. So I'm like, fuck it, let's go. Like, this is amazing. I've never been on a four-seater airplane before. And we just take this caravan of four planes with like a dozen of our magnesis customers and a couple of my friends. And we start finding these islands that like I didn't know existed. Yeah. And couldn't have found it in a map. Like, this is so fucking

cool. It's like love the adventure of like landing in a country in the middle of nowhere and just like making it our playground. And so many of the people we were bringing, we're just like getting together like forming businesses like creating new relationships and just sort of really bonding over these adventures and experiences what were you going and doing there at that point like you guys were just going to the islands and chilling island hopping boating around scuba diving free diving snorkeling it's like you know more like adventurey like outdoorsy shit but i don't know what i was doing so it's more just like hey how can we just push the limits and and see we can get away with and then how'd you how'd you meet jar rule hey so what did you want to talk about well i want to

tell you about wagovi wagovi what about it On second thought, I might not be the right person to tell you. Oh, you're not? No, just ask your doctor about Wagovi. Yeah, ask for it by name. Okay, so why did you bring me to the circus? Oh, I'm really into lion tamers. You know, with the chair and everything.

Ask your doctor for Wagovi by name. Visit wagovi.combe.com for savings. Exclusions may apply. So as a way to get back to a lot of the Magnusis members, we started booking music artists for concerts. Yeah. And just like, I'm sure you guys have way, way more experience, but just realized how backwards the entire industry was. I would just be going through so many middlemen who were promising me like artist X for X dollars. And it was all a facade. You know, you go through six guys who claim to be the manager, but they might know someone who doesn't really know someone. It was like this terrible, like, really backwards business. So I'm like, fuck, I can make this shit super transparent. Let me just make an app. And I can have artists get a notification on their phone for real offers and just like say yes or no. And that was how fire was kind of formed. Were artists like on board for that?

Yeah. We had a few hundred artists on fire. A few hundred artists, they were not exclusive. So they had regular like record labels or agencies or whatever. We were just like incremental income to it. And we had a dozen artists that were exclusive to fire, which basically meant that if you called one of these artists, in theory they were supposed to send you through our app to book them.

And did that ever happen? Yeah. So the fire app was going for like six months. And my biggest problem was like I just couldn't get away from the Bahamas. I loved it. And I kept doing these magnesis member trips and started bringing some of fires artists. And I had a high school friend who'd be there one weekend. And he's like, dude, no one believes that you're doing this. Like, this is incredible. And we said that the best way to invite everybody would be to do a festival. So the world's worst idea. All this came from like, almost like this

insecurity to prove that I was actually here on this island with nobody. And I just want to share that with the world. So what were the first steps when you're like, yo, I'm going to have this music festival here. What did you go do initially? Like, how did that start? So like, just like me at the time, I was 24 and I knew how to build websites. So it's like I can build a website in a week. If it doesn't work, no one cares, right? Like the idea of flops and no one gets hurt. So I applied that same like tech logic to trying to build a city in the middle of nowhere. And it was just so stupid. It just didn't work. Yeah, because involving people obviously makes it a much different situation. I just, I didn't know how to like extrapolate like, okay, a website, the user can't log in.

hurt whereas like hey now I'm trying to house thousands of people in the middle of nowhere for three or four days it's different different so like I said earlier what do you think the biggest issue was like in your perspective just like the logistics of it so we'll get into it but like yeah I've certainly like I lied to investors to get money and like morally ethically as a human like totally the most fucked up part yeah but the worst like business decision was time yeah I was like what the fuck bro why should make that so quick it's I don't know what it was thinking what was the time it was months yeah we launched launched like a trailer to see if anybody would care. And like, it kind of worked. And I'm like,

all right, in four months, we're doing this. Fuck. Why did you do that? Four months? And they're like, dude, like, it takes longer than that to drill a whale. That's so horny. That's pretty impossible, right? Yeah. Totally. Totally. Do you have anyone at the time who was like, you shouldn't do this? Like, you shouldn't move this fast or like it's not going to work this way? Like, was there anyone trying to like speak logic in that sense? For sure. But I was kind of caught up in this mindset that like we have to go really fast. And, And the downside is there's great artists on a beautiful location, but it's not perfect. And it didn't comprehend the downside is that people can't stay there.

It's just like not ready. I just like didn't understand the downside. And it's terrible. How many people were meant to go and attend in the beginning? So the festival was supposed to host 3,000 people per weekend, and there were two weekends. We had anywhere from two person to eight person tents. And then when did the villas come in? Because those didn't exist, did they?

there were villas and like I guess like this is kind of why I didn't watch documentaries. I guess like dude I made so many mistakes but we literally like hire this former Navy Steel guy to like take a map of the island and all the neighboring islands like mark it up by quadrant and he went out with a team like a photographer like a money guy and him and you go house to house offer to send like the local family on vacation for two weeks signed a contract on the spot like took pictures got the keys and we had 200 villas and we literally had like this cardboard box with a bunch of keys in an Excel document. And when the planes were landing, like, it sounds crazy. The guy with the keys and the villas just disappeared.

Damn. Was there any idiots that showed up for Weekend 2? Yeah. There had to be someone. That's a good question. That's a good question. Oh my God. Holy shit. How did you assemble like the greatest influencer group of girls of all time? Yeah. Yeah, that must have been kind of dope. Who was it? Haley Kowler. Roger Kowski. Kendall Jenner and I know them too No Kendall Jenner wasn't in the shoot was she Yeah She just posted it

She wasn't on the island for the shoot though How was that like with all those chicks Was that like the first time you've ever like hung out With like supermodels like that Or were you always like rolling like that I mean dude what was crazy just How fast things came together Like sure we had artists there

We would have you know A couple of friends of friends who were there And you know There'd be some models or whatever But we went on one of these trips And we need to do the best like We need to do the best like campaign of all time So I remember calling

IMG. I'm just like in my office back in New York after a great weekend at the Bahamas. And I'm like, I want Bella Hadid and, you know, Haley Baldwin. And the guy just fucking laughs at me on the phone. He's like, like, you are so stupid. Like, you have no idea what you're talking about. So kind of go down the list and to start calling other agencies until one says yes and, you know, agrees to send a handful of like really good, you know, really nice, great models. They went in the trip and they come back to New York the next week just saying like it was the best work trip they'd ever had. And three weeks later, the same people that laughed to me were like calling, you know, sending girls for casting, sending their roster, like, begging to

have their talent come. So literally, like, in a matter of weeks, because of this amazing island, went from being, like, laughed off the phone to, we just couldn't handle, like, the database of talent who wanted to come to the island. Like, we were literally turning definitely crushed the marketing. People away. Yeah. So, I mean, marketing was great, but, like, logistics were, like, before that shoot, like, were you guys marketing at the whole time, or you're just, like, bringing chicks in the comments? We're just bringing people and like, just partying and shit? Or, like, it was super adventurous. And, like, there's something about, and I was so reckless in a way that it's like, I will never be again,

but there's something about fear that just breaks your walls down and breaks people together. You just go and do crazy shit, whether it's like, like, you go up in the airplane, you turn an engine off and so you float around with zero gravity, you're trying to like drink out of your field of bottles. It's like, I don't care if you're Haley Bieber or, you know, whatever guy from the street in New York, like, you're going to be best fucking friends as soon as you land, like celebrating like life together. And this aspect of it's like doing crazy shit, realizing that everything you told you can just do way more

it just brings people together just so cool you seem like the push to limits yeah but yeah so what was it like specifically that trip with like the campaign shoot yeah there was like six campaign shoots and each one kept getting bigger and bigger and it went from like these four tiny airplanes

with you know random magnesium members too in all the stupid shit and bad decisions like all the crazy jets and crazy planes and yachts to you know in the matter of weeks I mean all the girls are probably like who is this guy. Yeah, I mean, out here, yeah, it's all this. Do you try to shoot your shot at any of them? I was, I was simping so hard. For who? For who?

It was, man, it was bad. Like, literally, like, took going to jail to get laid. Did you get any? Do you pull any? I mean, like, I hope you could, like, you know, I didn't tell anybody to get out of jail, so I'm not going to, you know, not going to write these girls out. But it's like, I was just trying way too hard. And like, now I see guys doing that same thing. John Rule was probably going hard, eh? Trying to wheel. We'll get into that. But you were going to say you see now you see guys doing the same thing? You're talking about like on social?

Yeah, it's like, yeah, on social and everywhere else. And it's like I can just like see and maybe I'm wrong, but like they're not happy. You know, which guys are you talking about? Like you can't be the guy subsidizing 80 people on a weekend and legitimately having fun. Yeah. It's like never like paying for everyone. You're just not having fun. Like that guy's a loser at the end of the day.

Sure, you might like go home to the biggest bank balance. But like, yeah. Something's wrong. And like I didn't understand that. Like I thought it was the man because I could call someone and have a got there in 20 minutes. No, I was just the biggest fucking loser. And it took like really failing to learn that. And I just, I see that in other people now. It's like, dude, I just know you're not happy. It's like, you can't get there like that. You want to name any of those people?

Sorry? You want to name any of those people? I don't know, man. I just kind of, I'm curious. I mean, I'm sure you've all experienced that in your life. And I'm sure there's plenty of guys you try to, you know, suck up to you and offer you the world. What the fucking pointing at? That's how Sonny got me. Why are you pointing at me? I'm fucking with you, dude. The fuck? Sorry, Sonny. I love you. There's levels to the shit. Okay, sorry. Jesus Christ. But if you look at like, you know, all the guys who really went crazy hard, like, they burn out, right? You can't like, you can't be that guy trying to impress the world every weekend.

You're going to fucking lose. Like, sure, you can impress me this weekend, but people are going to wake up on Monday with their own problems. They don't give a shit that you bought him a fucking plane or a boat. And what's going to happen in six months that guys did. Yeah. So I'm curious when you started doing this, how did you go about reaching out to artists? And how did you get them on board without having like, you know what I mean? As of Magnesis, we had done dozens of concerts, like super, super small.

These were like nightclub venues to a couple hundred people. Yeah. So just met, you know, a lot of like hip hop artists and managers just through magnesium. So that was kind of how I had the first artist for fire. Got it. And did they want to see the grounds or like the stage or anything? We were bringing them. Oh, they were coming out.

Every other weekend for the four months, we were running a trip. And for the last two months, I pretty much lived there. So like it was nonstop. People were coming. And like I could master the 20. person trip and like give you a great time. Sure. So like you would come be like this is fucking amazing. Yeah. But then 3,000 people came and I was a moron. Yeah. What celebrities, did any celebrities actually show up? So there's been so many stories and, you know, I've heard so many

rumors about this or that. There were 30 artists scheduled to perform. 28 of the 30 were paid in full. Neither two were paid for the first weekend, not the second weekend. So everybody was paid to be there for that first weekend. As far as I know, one artist canceled. before and that was Blinkman 882 and they were also they were paid for that weekend. They were one of the headliners yes but as far as I know everybody else was either there or coming until the festival was canceled. Who were some of the other big names? Yadi Yadi. So good music was headlining one night major laser disclosure Migos little Yadi Ray Shermered. Migos would have been pissed there. I mean it's not their fault like

you know we were we were certainly overpaying And, I mean, look, the marketing was great. Like, what artists would say no, right? We were just giving them a big check. The money was good at the time. And, like, who wouldn't want to come to this amazing island? So you can't blame the artists at all. What's the biggest lesson this whole thing taught you?

Do the process and the trust. It's like I had this crazy credit system where it took like seven or eight years of me just like getting shit on and working so hard for people to trust me. Or I could just call and like get what I needed to try to run a business. And all that just got ruined in one night. so it's like you can just like work for so long and just didn't fucking matter it's like that seven years of eating shit at the end of the day just meant nothing was there any point in that that period where you were starting to be like where you were starting to freak out and be like holy fuck this is going to be a miracle like to pull off so dude like life was terrible

in like the last couple months leading up to it all the bills were going crazy we spent you know 20-ish million dollars in in four months trying to do this festival and I'd wake up in the morning to like an Excel document saying like here is how much money we need today or else's festival isn't it canceled. So I'd wake up and be like, okay, I got to go find $3 million by 2 p.m. so we can wire it back out before the 4 o'clock cut off. How are you convincing people to give you all this money? So I think that's the biggest misconception is that like I woke up one day, gave some false numbers in a spreadsheet and people gave me $20-ish million. Like, yes, I certainly lied and made that false spreadsheet, but it was seven or eight years of these

investors seeing me work and building that trust. I think that's like the most fucked up thing that I learned is like that's all for for not oh I see so it wasn't like it was just all at one time no it was I'd known you for seven years so if I'm telling you like this idea is better and you gave me a million before I need five million now it's much different conversation than like waking up and knocking someone's door and asking for money then why do you think they pressed you so hard for it at the end and why they make it like a real like conviction right because like wouldn't have been like if they knew you over time then it's like you're taking in most investment opportunities you know you're taking risk but I lied I just

didn't have to lie. Got it. No, I said we were doing better than we were. Like, dude, it's super simple. It's like, if I had been honest and said, look, here's what our real numbers are and here's what we need, I would have gotten more help. I seriously think I would have been able to raise more money without like the bullshit numbers. Yeah. That's crazy as it sounds. It was like too good to be true, right? Yeah. People were a little weary. What's the status of that? Like, do you have to pay that money back or like? Yeah. So I have a, uh, 26 million in restitution that needs to get pay back to investors and then. By a certain date or no? I think it's like, you gotta have lifetime for that for the rest of my life right so how does that work so it's like

say if you made a million dollars how much that goes to restitution 100% of it because like how do you then like do you're living expenses and you know dude the problem is like so many people are going to be eating off of everything I earn for a very long time whether it's like taxes or lawsuits or restitution yeah so it's like it's been two months and I have no idea like what the percentages are going to be yet but it's going to be you know slim thick slim so that's for a while I think I saw there was like a hundred investors out of any of them, or any of them still like supportive? So the craziest fucking thing happened after I did like his first like social media post

a couple of weeks ago, this one investor was super mad and wrote a letter to the judge at sentencing, basically saying anything less than a life sentence will be a tragedy. They send me this like glowing DM like trying to hang out and get back together. Wait, the one who wanted you in there for life? Yeah. It's like how do you like as a human? How am I supposed to, like, internalize that? Like, I'm sitting there in front of my family and friends. This letter is being read.

The judge is reading this letter. This person is saying this kid needs a life sentence. He ruined my family. He ruined this. And this was years ago. Years ago. And then two weeks ago, I post a TikTok video. Now they're trying to get together.

It's like, this is crazy. How much time did you actually do? Because I know you got out of years. Four years. Do you think that's justified? I think I'm super lucky to have been in New York. You know, all the big dogs are in New York. the banks and these hedge funds who are dealing with numbers

that I've never seen before are all there. So I think I'm lucky in terms of where I was, and if I was elsewhere, it could have been a lot worse. Why? Because they're easier on those type of crimes here you're saying? I think it's more used to it, right? And my dollar figures here aren't going to shock anybody. But like, if I'm in Minnesota, like, you know, you're the big fish in town,

but here, compare it to all the mega banks and hedge funds, I'm irrelevant. So I was lucky to be in New York. However, dude, four years is a lot of time. It's like I missed half my 20s, right? like obviously deserved it but dude you lose 25 through 30 it's like it's a fucking significant portion of your life

what was jail like oh crazy I read something was Mike the situation were you guys boys in there so I was in jail with him you were locked up with situation I swear I saw that for five months situation's dope

yeah I'm not a bad friend to have in there I'm glad you asked that question I was gonna I swear I love situation he's so jokes so yeah so we were in jail together for five-ish months I was in like more of like a white collar prison yeah to start with Of course, I got in trouble there.

This is before the podcast and get shipped out right away. What'd you do? I had a USB device. I was trying to record a book. Once again, not a good idea. So came and snagged me, threw me in solitary for that too, sent me on Con Air to the next jail. So where I did the podcast and kept getting worse.

But were you guys like, did he have your back in there? That was like a really different jail experience. It was probably like 60% white-collar people. So it was mostly like older New York guys. and everybody was super nice and relaxed. Really? The other jails were a completely different vibe. The second one you went to?

I went to maybe four or five. All of the other ones was very heavy gang, mostly like guns and drugs. But yeah, it's a totally different experience. So the situation with that, like, the very calm, like, relaxed prison. Did you have to, like, join a side?

Yeah, did you have a crew you fit in with? So, dude, I got in trouble. This is so funny. I was in jail for one night and it was fucked. You were? Yeah, in Texas. Damn. It was a gang member now.

Yeah. No, it was exactly like, that's why I'm sorry. so scared like four years bro that'd be fuck like one night was pretty scary man it sucks it's it's exactly like the movies like that's what i found it was just like the lunchroom and shit and like it's like 50 years behind society it's like from the segregation like the yeah like this just like all the not a place you want to be man no play cards in there or anything didn't really play cards did you start you started a business in there something with phone calls yeah so when covid

started people were just like so fuck like in their families are fuck so i started like a charity to help fund these phone costs because it costs is $3.15 to call our family, which is like pretty expensive, right? So I started a program to fund phone calls for all these inmates, which is pretty cool. Yeah. Was like free? Any fuck jail stories? Dude, so many. Like when I first, I was on bail in New York and I fucked around on bail and was trying to dig myself out of a hole and basically had my bail revoked and was taken to the Brooklyn Detention Center, which is like totally brutal. And I just didn't know the first thing about jail. And, like, I didn't know about the jail culture, all the race stuff. Like,

living in Manhattan, like, all this stuff just doesn't exist in, like, you know, my mindset. And obviously, I was naive to, which is so stupid. But I'm hanging out with, like, other 25-year-old guys. I'm hanging out with the guys who, you know, I have some more interest to. But these, like, older white guys, like, literally like Nazi tattoos in their forehead kept coming out to me, like, oh, you can't hang out with them. Do you say hold his pocket? And didn't say hold his pocket. He's like, you can't hang out with the black guys. You got to hang out with your own kind, like all these things. I just like, what was the understanding? But anyway, you guys are really pissed off these like, you know, white supremacist guys. Because my cellmate

who had a 14-year sentence, he was back in Brooklyn in some appeal, a Indian guy with a financial crime, like middle-aged guy, super, super nice. He goes, hey, Billy, got some bad news. You know, the white guys, they want to fight you. They either want $150 or they're going to come and fight you. What do you want to do? He's like, if you don't have the money, I'll pay it for you. No problem. But if you want to fight, I got your back. Fuck. And I'm like, fuck.

And like, the guy is super, super nice, man. How old was he? He's probably, he's probably. So you guys understand the chance, probably. Yeah, shout to Patel, no chance. But Patel's the man. Anyway, so I'm like, Patel, fuck it. Like, I'm not paying these guys now.

I just got here. You fought? Like, let's fight. He goes, I knew you're going to say that. So anyway, our doors get locked. Are you capping? Yeah, is this a real story? Yeah.

I don't want that bullshit. No, no, no, no. Capping. I think, hold on to say he's fucking conning us right now. Yeah, that's true. How do we know? How do we know you're telling the truth this whole time? You paid him, you paid him 300.

I'm not, you know, I'm not the hero of the story here. So I'm far from the hero. You were just writing good jail stories in your cell and shit for when you got a hell to fall. Oh, that's fun. So let me get Patel's props here because like this is like a really cool heartwarming

moment. So you're locked behind your door for what they call accountant for a couple hours. So he was like trying to tell me what to do. Do it I'm brand new. He's like, I've got to put your boots up. on, lace up, blah, blah, blah. But the whole time he knew it was going to happen.

And he had told one of the big gangs who was leading the jail, like what was happening. And, you know, I wasn't friends with them, but they were like, you know, they were cool and, like, trying to help me. So as soon as the doors got unlocked, like the gang guy came and grabbed me, he goes, hey, Billy got to talk to you. So he brought me to his cell to basically protect me. Patel went and bum rushed that white guy cell and fought him for me. And I had no idea. And he came back to my cell and Patel just blitting all over the ground, its heads all chopped up. And this middle-aged guy there for like a white-collar crime

It's like, hey, you're a new kid here You don't know what you're doing And he literally went fucking just like wrist his sentence And went and attacked the guy for me But why is he doing that? No offense, but why is he doing that for you? He had been in jail for six years I wasn't sentenced yet

And like you just get in way more trouble If you get caught fighting And he's like, he's like, dude You just don't know what's going on And like this shit is serious That's pretty real These guys have long sense. For you?

Yeah. Why would I do that for you? Yeah, see what I'm saying Of course not dude I consider this guy with my closest friends you wouldn't do that for me. So it tells a real one. In jail?

Yeah. I mean, dude. First of all, why would we be in jail? You're probably like top dog in there. You're like top three, bro. But why would we be in there? I'm not going to go beat up random dudes for you. I don't know.

Get my sentence higher. Did you ever write any lyrics in there? No, man. I'm terrible. I am crazy. I'm kind of curious on this. So let's go back to fire in the night before. Yeah.

What were your feels the night before everybody's getting there? We just weren't ready. And are you freaking out, like looking at the grounds? Totally. freaking out. And like, my genius ass is like, okay, let's set up lights and we'll work overnight. And this will be ready by the time they arrive in the morning. And this storm just comes through. I don't know. That's the funniest part of the documentary. I swear there was a storm. People said it was bullshit. Now they put that in the documentary. Okay, okay.

There was a storm. And I'm like, all right, it's going to be over in 30 minutes. All right, it's going to be over an hour. And the storm just didn't go away. And my last decision that really fucked everything was people started landing in the morning. And I felt like the festival site just didn't look good enough. So, I sent them to this beach on the other side of the island. I told all the local boat captains and jet ski guys, I'm like, go, free boats, free jet skis, give them all the booze they want and, like, give them a great time, and then told them to come back, like, later that night. So everybody came over. So what, like, get them sauced up before they see this? Basically, get them sauce. Yeah.

Show them the island. The island's amazing. Yeah. But they came back. They were wasted. It was pitch black. The lights weren't working. That's what started the whole mayhem. So I really fucked everything and, like, ruined the last chance when I told people to just, like, go from the festival site and that's what killed it how did you handle that like how did you address everybody dude i was i was standing in a milk crate and like trying to be like trying to get people into their houses and i had almost 800 you know people working the festival that time they weren't all like full-time employees but between contractors and full-time employees and it just shows my inability to manage like where the fuck is everybody i'm standing in this milk crate getting yelled at by

you know x hundreds of people and just like couldn't find anybody it was like the worst feeling in the yeah yeah see that's what i don't understand because in the documentary right a lot of people on your team are constantly talking about yeah we don't have enough time like this isn't going to happen but they don't really show them coming to talk to you and be like sitting you down and be like bro there's there's no chance this works out well probably wasn't filmed right well but did that happen like were there people from your team being like billy this is not fucking the yoga guy was saying that so i should have listened like so people were saying people were saying it And it's like, I was just on this mentality.

Like, we are going to make this work at all costs. And, you know, I'd given up everything I had, like, lied to everybody to get this money. And, like, I was just so far down the hole. It's like, I don't care how impossible this sounds. Like, we're going to make this work. And that's it really fucked me. Whatever happened to that guy, you guys see that guy that was the mean, the guy that was going to give out a BJ for the water?

I've heard a lot about that guy's a legend. You guys still boys? You and that guy? He was going to lay it off for you. trooper man why were you guys so sure wait wait wait wait wait why were you guys so sure that he had to like suck the guy's dick like

where'd that come from you trolled him didn't you like why not like why did not like pay him money like pay the border officer money like where did it just jump to like yo you got to blow this guy no you I think you were fucking with him no that's funny if I pay the border guy money I think would have been in jail for a lot longer so thankfully didn't do that but uh in the Bahamas though yeah yeah it's bad but um

but you got to talk but that guy's everywhere I mean Andy King tried his best I think what I didn't see the documentary once again I was told how it sounded the day after the day he filmed

I was at dinner and he came to meet me at dinner with the producer for the documentary trying to convince me to come interview for it and he's just like laughing his ass off about the story and I hear like on the documentary he's like almost in tears like crying about it

so it's like kind of frustrating about how you know people portray certain events. Sure. But it's like... In the documentary, he was crying? I was told he seemed to be like very serious about the situation.

He pretty much was like, yo, I was ready to blow some of the guy. Oh, yeah. Okay. I didn't know. He seemed pretty... My bet. Yeah, but... Well, he didn't go through with it.

He was trying his best and like, we were certainly all mentality get this thing done, but it was never like a direct order, you know, go blow this official. No. But that's the kind of guy you want on your team, probably. You got to have one guy like that in the squad. Yeah. We have one. We got Gabe.

He's ready. Gabe's always ready. So, so... Don't got to convince them much. Besides the festival, all the stuff that went south, when did like the legal, when were you like, oh, this is coming to me? Like, did it all come at once? Like when they started hitting you with like, hey, this is a problem and we're coming for this? Yeah.

So the festival was canceled like late on a Thursday night. Okay. I flew back to New York late Sunday night. So what, three days later? Yeah. And then like 5 a.m. The FBI was at my door. So like five hours after getting back.

So sorry, say that in? Five hours. I landed like midnight on the Sunday after the festival. Uh-huh. And at 5 a.m. The FBI. Who's hitting FBI? I'm like, yo.

Do you think that like any... Great, great shout out to my door man at the time. You know, you're the man. I won't say your name and get you in trouble. But he told the FBI I lived in the second floor of my building. I live in the 10th floor. He ran up, he took the elevator to the second floor, ran up the rest of the stairs, knocking on my door, texting me.

It's like, Mr. McFarland, the FBI is here. If you want to go, I got you at the back right now. Like, you know, that's a real... It's cool, bro. Shut out that guy. No, you got a few of those. He's a man. I'm like, you got a lot of legends around you.

That guy's a fucking legend. And I go, I'll come down. He goes, okay, but we got to walk down to the second floor. So, we can't see it's coming down. Did you do that? So we walked down to the second floor and then took the elevator down. And not so funny, but when they came to actually arrest me again months later, they went to the wrong apartment.

Oh, my God. So he saved you a few months. Yeah. Like, I got arrested that day, got out on bail. And then when they came to arrest me again, though, they went to the wrong apartment because he lied to them, but like, shout out the door man. So who's calling FBI, though, like the next few, the few days later, Like, who is that?

Yeah. Do you think they were mon- like Chris Jenner? Well, do you think they look at Chris- for sure? No, they got paid. Do you think that they were

wandering you? So. During the show? Dude, I just like, in the process. I lied and I lied to a lot of powerful people. The investors were like notified them. I was so naive.

Like, I was on the ground when the festival was canceled and this one investor goes to me. Like, he gave me a dollar figure that wasn't the full amount. He's like, we need this back or else you're going to be on handcuffs in the front page of the Wall Street Journal.

And basically said, like, dude, I don't have it. Like, lack of better terms. And I tried to call him again a day later. He just goes, sorry, too late. And I didn't know what he meant. Oh, shit.

And, like, literally, like, and he had every right to report me. When was that in the whole process? This is Friday, Saturday. And then I get back to New York on Sunday, and I'm done. Like, dude, I was, I was guilty. I was guilty as hell. It was, yeah. What's that, like, the FBI showing up?

What's the fucking scary? They're, like, wearing the vests, like, say, FBI. They got the ID badges and all that, say. I am so scared of them. Wow. Well, fucking. Bro. Paddle would have fought me. I'm so scared. The Salme guy? Patel. Yeah, he would have fought him off. Between Patel in my dormant. How do you have these guys looking out for you like that?

They had some really good dudes, man. And it's like, even just back to jail. Like, there were certainly some scumbags in there who just like did really bad things. But so many great people who just didn't know anything else. And if you're like this 18 year old kid and everybody around you was selling drugs, you don't have one friend who doesn't do it. And you get caught at 18 and go to jail. Like, how? How do you blame that kid, right? Yeah. It's like, there are some really good, honest guys in there. What was the worst thing you saw? There was some rape. There was a guy who committed suicide in the Brooklyn Detenture Center when I was there. Shit.

And I was kind of fucked up. There was a young kid who came into Brooklyn a couple months after I got there. So I was more comfortable at this point. He was like, my age kind of looked like similar to me. So everybody was joking. Oh, like, Billy, you got a brother here. Like, your brother's finally in jail with you. You got a friend.

Yeah. And so he's all scared. The first day, he pays off one of the big gangs for protection. Gives him a lot of money, right? So the guy switches his cell to be cellmates with him, and he's right next to him to my cell. And so he just paid this guy or he paid his gang. And the guy said, okay, so come with me.

And that night, you just hear the guy getting raped. Oh, please, like, stop it. And dude, that was fucking like. You were right next to him. Right? Different cell. Closed door if you could hear it. And like, I saw him, it's like, dude, stop.

You tell him, like, you can, if you call the coughs and telling them, like, they're going to fucking kill you. Like, there's nothing you can do. Jesus. So it gets worse. So the next morning, the kid doesn't want to tell him the guy, right? So he basically goes and tells the cop, I need a new cell. So they move his cell, but the word's getting around that he got raped.

So now the gang pressures the guy that raped him. He's like, is that guy lying? He's like, yeah, he's lying. I didn't rape him. So the next morning, when the door is open, all you hear is these cries, like, help me, help me. He took a razor blade and went and, like, slashed the kid up, and you never saw him again. So it's like, yeah. So he got raped one day and then slashed up the next day.

So it's like, dude, this place is. fucking real like. What was your status like in there? Like people knew who you were? That's fucking insane. They knew about the festival or what? No, well, they knew who you were. So the big thing about jail is sex offenders, which there are tons and people who snitched. So if you weren't a sex offender, you don't snitch and you don't owe anybody money. And the only way you do that is for a drug user. Like, then you're, and you're pretty much fine. So did people like know who you were? They knew about the case. Yeah. And then so, but basically, if you're not a sex offender or a snitch and you're not like in the gang situation, no one really cares about you. So

You can kind of, like, stay in your own lane and no one bothers you. Got it. That makes sense. Yeah. But, like, if you're not that, like, you can't watch TV. You can't eat at certain tables. Like, you're really a rough experience. What was the best thing you got to do in there?

Meet people. It's like, I think when you're working a lot and, like, trying to excel in your career, you don't have months just, like, hang out with someone and get to know them. On, like, a non-needy level, like, I don't need anything from you. You don't want anything from me. Just, like, becoming. genuine friends. Like, that was pretty cool. And I felt like when you're trying to come up in your career, it's hard to find genuine friends because most people want something from you,

whether it's to be in the podcast, whether it's to invest and make money, whoever the fuck it is. Everyone's trying to come up. Everybody wants to come up. Even if you're a great guy, you know, we're business-minded, right? We want that come up. But in there, when you don't care about the come up, if someone has 30 years in their sentence, like, they're not trying to come up. It's like that time to connect. Like, it's pretty cool. It's like different. That's interesting. thing real connection like you're real friends it's like i don't need anything like we're in jail like i don't want anything like whatever you were before it doesn't fucking matter we're all eating the same bullshit and like sleeping in a fucking cot like we're cool so while you're in there and

and now are you were you thinking about okay this is what i need to do when i get out or this is plans that i have to start when i get out yeah so working on a company now it's called pirate put it together during this is the new game plan oh pirate let's fucking hear pirate all right it's put it together my seventh month stint in solitary and to start kind of one more happy to yeah bro yeah it's great much better than the like the hoot show is drinking for a few years so anyway overall goal here with pirate is like want to make the biggest impact possible and want to pay people back but to do that I need to do what I'm good at and that's starting a business not a festival not a festival we can get into that starting a business oh oh shit no no fire

If there's a festival, I'm pulling up. I'm pulling up. Can I have the bottle? Can I get a bottle? It's pretty funny, actually. Like, if you actually do another festival, though, it would actually be pretty funny. So. I think people show up for novelty even.

Pirate kind of gets back to what I'm good at, and I think does it in a scale that's a little bit more interesting this time around. Before we get into it, when I go back to the Bahamas for the first time. I don't know what's going to happen. I have to ask permission to go. but I'd love for you guys to be there to capture the content and be the first one to return boots in the ground. I think false end getting the reaction from the locals. This is actually hilarious.

That's great vlog. I love that video. It's actually hilarious. We will do the four-day weekends that made the fire festival idea happen. Wait until Steve hears this. He'll go he's going to lose his shit. Here's your message in a bottle. And you guys take that with you.

but you guys, I really hope you guys can make the first return trip. So I'll open it right now. It's just a little invitation. You guys can open it later. But I hope that you guys can come back. We'll be with the first trip. Yeah, open that. So you're going to do, you're going to, is it going to evolve into another festival or is this is?

So what pirate is going to be, it's going to be a small permanent hotel in the Bahamas for like artists and entrepreneurs to come and it's like partake in these crazy adventures. You're just going to build it first, I'm assuming. We're partnering with a development that already exists. got it so you know we'll make it our brand yeah people to come hang out you know go should we go did you got to come yeah i'm going i don't give a phone you got to come i'm going you're going too no we can love fuck it yeah we can get to some of the wild shit that that happened down there that i think it's great content but we'll give the pirate who's who

else is going to be there what are we invite anyone are you we won't buy the people are you guys are you just live in the bahamas are you guys coming i mean when i'm going i'm going i don't give a So I have to ask permission to travel due to my probation status, but we will ask soon. Well, bro, what's... I want to do it back to the original trip, a few small propeller planes straight from New York in doing the whole thing, OG status, and really showing you guys to add our island to the Caribbean and what we can make happen there. I know, I know see him go.

I'll pull up, dude. I got to ask before I agree to this. What do you guys think? Leave a comment. Drop a thumbs up on the video if you should go. Real quick, though, what's your status with the people of the Bahamas? Yeah, that's a good point. I have so many close friends there.

Like, they're the warmest, kindest people ever. The day I got out, like two of my closest friends there flew up to New York, literally for the first time from the Bahamas, spent a week here with me. My business partner has gone back a couple of times for the past couple of months. We're really, like, getting back into full Bahamas mode. So what we're doing is establishing a permanent spot there for, like, a manageable number of, like, artists and creators to come and get together and just, like, connect and share new ideas. But what we did this time is pretty cool. We built this virtual replica of the island.

So no matter where you are in the world, you could live stream the island. You can actually get together online and change what's happening on the island. So for example, I change what's happening physically on the island. So like I could be swimming on the island and people online could like buy me a drink or they can literally chum the water and like giving all the sharks in the area. I'm sure people would love to, would love to see that. So it's all about how. How do they chum the water? It will get together online, propose that to me, hey, are you down with getting the water chum? I'll have like a pirate app in my Apple Watch.

And I can say, yeah, sure, I'll do this. And then literally have like a local boat cap who drops bait in the water. So it's giving people the ability, no matter where they are, to come to this experience that I always thought was so magical. But not just watch it to actually change and even own some of the things happening on the island. One sec, Billy. What if they say, yo, we don't want you to come back here? No, it really suck, wouldn't it? They're not saying that, I'm assuming.

I need to get permission, right? You're talking about the Bahamas? Yeah. I need to ask permission to the... Just to leave the country? To leave the country. The Bahamas is cool with you coming back? I have plenty of support from the Bahamas,

so I'm fairly confident that we will be allowed a second chance there, which I'm super, super grateful for, but just need to kind of go through the process with the U.S. and, you know, take it step by step. Damn. Why don't you live in the Bahamas? So what's the company? It's like an app?

The company is called Pirate. So it's, you know, part physical hotel. and part app where you can literally get together everywhere and then change what's happening on this island. Are they building the hotel right now? So we're taking over a development. It's already been there. It's never been marketed before.

So we're going to make it this like pirate adventure theme and essentially invite various content creators and entrepreneurs. And it's like replicate these adventure trips that kicked everything off, but do a unique twist where you're there on the island and then a thousand people at home could be like dictating your island experience. So the hotel exists, right?

Like, it's there? It's not currently a hotel. It's a couple of dozen villas. That's basically, you know, a private. Well, define villa. Like, villa or like... Like, it's a real thing, right? So, like, just like a cardboard box.

They're building right now. It's gonna be ready in, what, three weeks? Yeah, oh, yeah, stop. Yeah, you're fucked. So, you took our first guest back. So we took our first guest back. Let's not rush this. Like, we don't, we're...

Yeah, dude, like, the great thing is, like, there's no promises, right? Like, I have no investors and no deadlines. We took our first guests back last weekend. I didn't go, but my business partner took them. They had a fucking incredible time and taking step by step, but really focusing on the tech now

and think that there's so much in this emerging technology where people can come together online to actually own and affect these physical assets that's going to make this experience totally different and open to everybody. And are you super confident now? Is any of you, do you ever worry now

what's happened in the past, are you ever scared? Does that play into what you're doing in the future? I think it all just comes down to honesty, right? It's like, I don't have shit, and I'm just, like, very grateful to have supportive friends and supportive companies who want to see this happen. So I'm going after all the shit, they believe. Yeah, it's great.

And it's like, I'm going for it. But I'm going to go for it honestly. So if anything goes wrong, there's no, like, I'm honest about finances. I'm honest about, like, what it can or can't do. Yeah. It's taking a completely different leaf here. And, dude, it's almost like the motivation of a team and supporters is so much better when I'm brutally honest.

It's like, dude, I don't have shit. Like, I can't afford to do that, but here's what I can do and how can we make this happen? And things are just going so much smoother. I mean, I think you make the best out of any situation when you're honest. Yeah. It's like, people are just like, it's refreshing, right? Yeah.

And people will fight for you if you're just honest about what you can and can't do. Sure. Learning about your weaknesses and it's getting a fucking amazing team. Have you built like a completely new team this time around? Have a totally new team. There's like 12 of us who are pretty much close to fall time right now. So we're still small, moving fast. This squad right here?

This is definitely part of the pirate crew right here. So, trying to build as fast as we can. Nice. Who else? Like, would it just be us? Or like,

were you going to invite some chicks? No, we'll invite some people, guys. We've got to, we got to need, we got to make it happen. Yeah,

we can, like the same type of squad like before, like Kendall, like that type. Yeah, could we get them? I don't know. We got to take it step by step.

But we can have a good time. Do you have any relationship with John anymore? No. No. No. Dude, like, incredible salesman. Yeah. Super charismatic guy. But when shit hit the fan, he'd already been to jail. And if you commit an offense the second time, it's way worse. So at the first chance to cover his ass, you know, he did. Yeah. So does that, does that bug you at all, that you're the only one that went down? Uh, no, because I was like, dude, I was the fucking most,

I was guilty, you know, I was responsible for everything. I think what bugs me is people taking credit for things that didn't do. Well, and in reality, there's like, there are hundreds of people who are working on fire, right? So, like, the good marketing stuff wasn't like one person's idea. It was many, many people working together.

Yeah. Some guys are saying, oh, well, I'm not responsible, but, you know, all seven good things that happened were all because of me. Like, I think that's lame as fuck. Like, either was you or it wasn't you, that's it pisses me off the most. Like, I don't blame him for covering his ass

if he doesn't go to jail again. He's got a family. He's got things more important than, like, me to him, but, you know, don't take responsibility for shit that, you know, many, many talented people that did. And that pisses me off.

Why he was taking credit? Yeah, just taking credit for like things that went well, you know, when it wasn't, you know, it wasn't one person. It was many, many, many, like you have a great idea in your business. You bounce it off five guys. Like, shit changes 10 times before you launch it. Like, that's how this shit works. It's not one person who does one good thing, but doesn't do one bad thing.

It's not how it works. Damn. I think I got it. I don't know. I haven't heard anything about him in five years. So, moving on. Are you excited for the future? Dude, I am pumped.

Like, it's been two months, and I'm trying to catch up. It's like, I felt like the first couple weeks. What are you been doing in these past two months? I didn't have a phone for four years. Yeah. I mean, no cell phone. The last two years, I took away my pay phone after the podcast incident. So I felt like no contact with the world.

But it's like, you know, kind of getting back to life. Super, super pumped for the UFC on Saturday. Oh, of course. Are you going? I don't know. One of my, I haven't reached out yet, but one of my childhood jujitsu instructors fighters fighting for the title. So I'm going to shoot him a DM tonight to see if he see if he gets back to me. So Plinyo Cruz was my high school coach and Alex Pereira

is his fighter. So, wow. Pellino, if you're listening, I'm going to DM you tonight to please. You're a big UFC fan? Big UFC fan. I've done Jiu-Jitsu for a while. What are your predictions for Saturday? Dude, I got to go with the Brazilian. Got to go with Alex Pereira. You know, it was super cool training with Plinyo in high school. So I'm excited to see. You got Porrier or Chandler? I'm a Porrier fan. Yeah. Yeah. I think he's fun so channel's gonna win for sure yeah channel's your guy

it's a fucking rogier athlete is that your guy yeah he's a wrong year guy oh wow that's dope yeah are you guys beef ever or no me and him beef yeah why would I beef I don't know I'm not beefing the UFC guy what the fuck get your story up or something okay I don't need a beef them we're like you know I want to train with him so do I train does he train he's offended right now that you're that was funny no I think he meant he probably meant like in the

the fighting respects like martial arts Yeah, I've done BJJ. I've done stuff like that. I haven't trained super consistently. But I train, yes, of course I train. Like in real. Do you have any other hobbies that you do, like that are just random or? Dude, like love Jiu-Jitsu.

Been doing a lot of Muay Thai recently too. It's like like the martial arts. I used to fly a little bit, just like learning from these trips. So I like to fly. I just love the water. Like love scuba diving, love free diving. You know, fucking jet skis, of course. I know, you made fun of a lot.

Fucking Bahamas, baby. Let's just live the life. So wait, when should we go? So, like, when are we aiming to go? I don't want to say on camera and, like, get turned down, but... He's getting better. Look at it, man. He's getting better.

He'll shoot for it. Like, what's a rough? Like, I'm actually... Like, I'm actually... Please, don't make him give a date. No, six months period. I want to get too exciting, be like, let's go. I'm in trouble.

No dates yet. No day to slow me down, guys. Three days. No, what do you think, though? Like, what's a window? No, stop. No, I actually want to know myself. Oh, yeah.

We got to know for the log. Is this a year? Is this like next month? Is it six months? Yeah, what real... Fuck, this is tough. I would hope in the next year, it's... Next year, okay.

In the next year, so, yeah. Okay, good. Some buffer time. So we won't be going for a year to this in. Guys, don't hold me to this, but we're going to fucking make this happen. All right. He's back at it. Like, it's so funny.

Shit. No, I was just excited to go. But, like, this time, guy, can't promise what's going to happen when we land. I mean, dude, no one's going to hit you guys. There we can't promise what's going to happen to me. We'll have a good team there to. Yeah, we're going to have the security up for rolling with you. Fuck.

It's going to be good. that's funny man i guess like guys on the team like you you know the stories like what do you think we should talk about to make this podcast really go i feel like i'm kind of vanilla my answers so i think you've been really good yeah you're great what you're doing did any of like did like the jenners ever like what was your interaction with like them because well sorry that's they took they took some backlash for promoting it yeah understand did that ever come back to you from them uh no obviously not but like dude you just can't you know it's none of their fault right if your company is like seemingly doing super super well it's just impossible for every person to do

like full due diligence like it's just not it's not practical so i think like the public like backlash and lawsuits against like the artist and talent is just such fucking bullshit kind of unmerited yeah there's so many people out there who just try to take advantage and like line their own pockets and it's like it makes me sick it's like it's not their fault who got a bigger bag uh rajikowski or baldland oh man it's a good question probably rachikovsky i don't know this was pre-beaver right pre-beber too oh emily then dude yeah like i for sure i i think emily's was twice as much yeah what what did what did they get paid to come out she's gonna be pissed to hear that well it's just like i yeah i don't know man you don't remember you can't you can't say some people

were great some people weren't great but like what did you have to pay them to come out how much i'm like haley was i've only known haley from one trip, super respectful, you know, very talented. She had a great time. She was very professional and awesome. I'm sure she commands like crazy top dollars right now, but she was like, she was a beast at her job and like, awesome. She did get to experience zero gravity. So we had a nice plane ride together. So I'm sure she had some. You turn a plane off on that one. So we basically, you tilt the plane up in the air and you cut the engine. And it's like, it's like a 1960s cropped us. You're like the thing fucking is a piece of shit. And you let the plane float down. So you're

literally floating in the plane, like spinning each other in the air. Now, when it gets too low, you ram the engine and catch it. So we could do your gravity together on the plane. But yeah, that was a fun time. So you can't say how much they got paid? I don't want to know. I don't know. I mean, people were paid fairly for that. And then like, I think what pissed me off the most is like when they got sued for getting paid, like they did everything they were supposed to do, right? They showed up. They did the shoot. They did promotion. Like, it's not their fault that I fuck up the logistics. So I understand the mindset. Like in my own little world, I thought I could do whatever I wanted to do. And like looking back, it's fucking retarded,

but I can see how other people fall down that same trap. What part of town do you live in? I'm in bedstide Brooklyn right now. So, yeah. Hopefully we'll get back to Manhattan once I once I can make some money again. But taking my time. So is this your first venture? Like, this is how you're making money is pirate? Doing pirate, like getting decent like media sponsorship, marketing deals. So I feel like companies are coming to us saying, hey, we know you can market. So using that to fund pirate at this point. You said you follow him on TikTok? What's that? You saw him on TikTok? No, I was joking how he's just like, are you on TikTok? I started TikTok. How many followers do you have? I have like 2,000 followers. So help me out, guys.

I'm clueless on social. What are you doing like selfie video ones? Literally. Like, hey guys, I'm coming out with something new. Like stay tuned. Sonny's trying to get some advice. He's kind of, be honest. I just want to see how it's doing for you. You guys should do a collab. you just maybe we will do all the time you should do the 21 do the 21 you fucking loser what did your first TikTok get when we posted it I think we're almost have 200,000 views and guys for me like a social media fucking loser's pretty cool like I've been out of the game for a lot what was the first post uh basically saying I'm back huh I want to make this up to everybody I've got something new but this time everybody's invited so that's a message and we've literally started to

like I got to know I can't read them yeah dude I'm too much of pussy Like I just get so mad What's your Instagram Pirate Billy P-Y-R-T, Billy Is it fucked if you read the comments? His comments are pretty bad Are they bad?

Can you handle it or not? Yeah. And do I hate it? No, that's actually really funny We should read some of them all. I hate it. This is on your first video, right? I'm not sure what you're looking at, but

Wait, can you send me the link too bad? Well, this isn't my phone. Oh, okay. Wait, but this is on his TikTok on his page? This is on his TikTok. It's actually funny because people troll and it's kind of comedy. People are pretty creative, bro.

Yeah. TikTok Savage, too. Fire Festival 2.0. Huh? Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. I know. What's the account?

Pirate P-Y-R-T-Billy. Society loves giving people who bring no productive value to anything second chances, so I fully expect to see this guy rich. He's successful in one year. What do you think about that? That's an interesting one. Because, I mean, social media, listen, there are some interesting shows on social media that does. I guess my biggest, like, and I'm probably so wrong for thinking this, but it's like,

I have so many of my own problems that I'm so worried about, what kind of person doesn't have enough problems where they can have time to go shooting somebody else online? I'm like, I get that I'm probably wrong. Your lawyer is freaking out right now. Hold on, but before you kind of talk about that comment, I also think it's important to note that like you did do something. Yeah, you fuck something up completely and you lied to a bunch of people, but you still were able to pull together something that like most people couldn't pull together.

like you did you did tell some lies along the way obviously for sure but like regardless I don't know I can't name 10 people who all like were able to actually even get even to finesse to that point right like you just kind of you overpromise and underdelivered and you you got fucked but like that's not a normal thing for most people to be able to pull together so I think there's there's not saying hey it's a good thing you did it but if you take the things that you've done and the things you've learned along the way now like you said the honesty and your skills prior and your skills current and that you know you obviously have a new team it's like why couldn't you be successful less than a year yeah you know so I think it's very

reasonable to think that yeah hope I got a chance thank you yeah yeah I agree but I think uh the marketing I think you were a step ahead of people for sure when it came to the marketing like absolutely that was the first time you ever saw all those models together otherwise it wouldn't happen it was crazy bro that changed everything putting those models together and like them posting about it was a game changer yeah crazy I remember cop a ticket or no yeah yeah you guys talking about going. Do you guys see it when we posted it or no?

I saw it when you posted. I was like, what the fuck is this? Nice. Yeah. Yeah, you sold this, that's for sure.

No, I saw it, yeah. He's probably sold some tickets on the side. Yeah. I'm like I'm going to call you. Oh, what the fuck?

How much show I owe you, Stony? No. There's a season two. I don't have it. I just want to know what my dead is. Just that's crazy. Season two coming soon or what?

Yeah. But yeah, I really hope you guys can come back with us. I think that I'll just be soon. consider going another festival or attempting. Dude, like, pirate is all about taking people to places that they think are impossible.

So, I mean, I have to do a pirate fest, right? It's like, it can't be tomorrow. It can't be in four months, but there's going to be a pirate fest. It's going to be like a match number of people. And but like, we're going to do it in a really unique, unique way. But, you know, Pirate Fest and... You got to do it just to like show that you can do it.

Well, there's also... You don't have a judge. Just fucking get a story of one artist and fans there and them having good time and You're proving people wrong. 100% and the island is so beautiful. And it's fun. Like, make it activities,

get some good music and you're going to meet fun people and have a great time. That's what it's all about. You do have to do a festival. Honestly, point two. You got to. Because like there's already so much built up behind it. Then like if you finally do it,

it's like a whole other fucking like Netflix thing. I'm going. If there's a festival on there. I'm going, dude. Thank you guys. I think the cool thing is people will go just to see what happens. Exactly.

Exactly. People who hate me will be the first ones to want to come. Like, yo, I got to be your shit in this guy. it's like come on let's go yeah just prove just you know prove them wrong this time yeah outside of time what do you think was the biggest mistake you made lying and it's like i think like just people now i think are just going so much harder like for me with me because i'm honest and dude it's like so fucking refreshing and i hated being that guy it's like hey i'm

lying to people and i'm getting all these boats and planes but i'm in the back like nervous as fuck like i'm my computer like did the wire hit can i pay for this yacht tomorrow or Or is like, or is Bella Hadeghina gonna laugh at me because I can't fucking fly her home? It was so funny though. It was funny to see all the people get fooled, like, in my opinion. Like when they walk up? There is some humor because it's a bunch of rich people like spending it one night in the Bahamas. Yeah.

And they thought they were getting a villa and then they just got the tent with the fucking beds and shit. It's so funny. They just got waxed. Terrible. Oh my God. It's like obvious, but how did I? I don't know, man. That.

Fuck. It's slightly funny. I can't even lie. I think it was so crazy and like looking back now and like having zero credit like not like literally but like socially the credit system that we had was just absurd. It's like I could be on the island and say, hey, I need three planes and two yachts and they would arrive in two hours and no one would tell me a price. No one would ask for payment. And like that was absolutely like insane. Everybody wanted to be around talent, whether it's models like Instagram attention. And I feel like everything was there. And the bills would come months later and I couldn't pay them of course. But like, you know, the credit that we had built up was just from the star power. Yeah, just from like the intrigue. People want to be a part of it and there was no questions. It's like it felt like anything that we wanted to order was like on demand and it was like it took me to this like false reality where I just fucked up. It's like when you're ordering room service and you get the bill

later and you're like yeah. Exactly. Damn. A couple boats and planes. Yeah. When you do stuff now are you just like do you think like all right 26 millie got to pay that? Like does that change the way that you operate? When I first got to jail 100%, that's where I started to fucking up. I was trying to do this stupid book, got in trouble. Try to do a podcast, got in trouble. And now it's like, hey, if I make $1,000 and pay whatever percent I have to do a restitution, like, that's what it is. And as soon as I start thinking about big numbers, like, I'll make bad decisions. It's not about the money. It is about the money, but it can't be but the money in the short term. It's like, go and do cool shit, do it honestly, make a positive impact and show a bunch of people

something they never could have fucking dreamed of. Money always comes when you do that. If I can do, if I can do, if I can do the cool shit that I was doing on a small scale and share it with people,

the money will hopefully come. Yeah. And this is just out of my curiosity. What do you think is the biggest lie that you told to one of the investors? I love that question. The obvious answer is that I had more money than I said I had

or our revenue was higher and I said it was going to be. I think it was like, pretending that I understood what the fuck I was doing. Like, logistic wise? Logistic wise. It's like, oh, we don't have water. Okay, how do we get water?

Well, you take salt water and you do reverse osmosis into fresh water. And I'm like, oh, now I think I know how to do that. I know a fucking idea how to do reverse osmosis, right? So I think it's like more about like lying about what I thought I could do was the worst lie that I could have had because then people didn't know how to help. Oh, shit. Oh, I know how to do that. And the person steps back and say, oh,

okay you got that like you don't need my help whereas if i could have said like dude i have no idea how to get fucking water on this island like i had enough like powerful investors and advisors they were not delegating properly i wasn't delegating properly they would have called someone who actually knew what they were doing to help me so it was lying about my skill set damn because that sucks because like you could have changed that yeah like straight up just by like and obviously we're going back in circles now like telling the truth and saying hey i need this i need someone to give me this advice they would have been like sure sure dude just saying you don't know is like so much better than pretending like you do know.

What was the toughest thing to do, like to get done for a music festival? What's the hardest thing to accomplish? I think I hired way too quickly and just didn't know how to manage hundreds of people. And like every day was a fire, like, you know, literally, right? Trying to solve a problem so the company doesn't go under and not understanding how to give hundreds of people the attention and guidance they need to actually come together and make something happen. have you seen like the viral picture of like the two pieces of bread and the cheese yeah

what's good at that what is that oh dude as it's like the food as that's what's portrayed is there social media experts if we serve 3,000 connected people cheese sandwiches there'd be more than one picture sure that's my that's my defense our food was actually all right the food was fine it was fine it wasn't like it was not great the food was fine and then what happened to me and Andy king actually told me this later was two kids got super high, came up to Andy King and said, hey, man, all I really wanted to cheese sandwich. So that's what he made for them. And that one picture went viral. Damn. Yeah. So it's like, but like if he served 3,000 of those, it'd be more than just one,

you know, trash can with a cheese sandwich. But like, once again, totally under deliver on the food and fucked it up. But it was not all cheese sandwiches. However, when I first got to jail, I thought it was funny. They gave me my first day there. They gave me a lunch. Yeah. Oh, that's what I'm saying. Really? You were? Yeah. So that was funny. They trolled you. Yeah. That's dumb. So a lot of people recognized you in there? People just watch the news all day long. Oh, right.

There's a couple of TVs. So it's not like, they're super, super behind, like, on everything. So it's all, like, the morning shows and, like, talk shows. But people watch a lot of news. Damn. And they try to connect. Like, if you're in there, you feel better about yourself when you see somebody else getting in trouble. Like, even if you don't want to admit it.

So everybody watched, like, all the crime shows and, like, behind jail shows. It was all big hit and job. Did you pull an all-nighter that night? From the festival? Yeah. Yeah. It was brutal. When did it kick in like, yo, I could be fucked?

I was literally told three people died. And the ways I was told they died were just so fucking wild. And like, if I had any stable mind at the time, I would have understood it wasn't true. And I'm like, shit. Like, I can't handle this. Like, let's cancel this immediately. That's what led me to cancel it. But thankfully, no one got hurt and that was all bullshit.

But that was the- Why someone lied you about that? What they say? How they say they died? I was told someone got shot. Someone got bit by a pig. And someone was just kidnapped and missing. Who told you that?

There's random people who were working there. So Jesus the fuck Like obviously no one got bit by a pig and died There are the pigs of the Bahamas But like in my mindset I'm like oh shit The pigs came like I can't handle this You're like yo those pigs are friendly

Yeah But there are people on Twitter saying shots fired Hearing gunfire was all It's all false but I'm seeing the tweets Hearing the rumors And it was because people were like Starting to get mad They're getting mad

And like I was literally like on the phone With the reporter on like They were literally live I'm not going to mention the publication But they were live streaming me On their homepage of their website Standing on this milk carton Like

And then I was literally talking to them on the phone while they were live streaming and they're like, we have reports that you ran away in your yacht with all these supermodels and cocaine. It's like, dude, you fucking idiots. You're literally live streaming me. You're like right here right in the middle of this. And like it was like so overwhelming and pulled the plug. Yeah. That's not a bad escape. What was jaw doing at that point? Night of. He hadn't gotten there yet. He had a concert somewhere in middle America and he was going to fly in on, I think on Friday. And it was canceled late Thursday night. Did he text me like, yo, bro, like, good luck or anything for sure i mean like yeah what was the falling out like i mean as soon as i don't know if i should say this but fuck it as soon as uh as soon as the fbi came to see me my lawyer got a call from his lawyer and as lawyer basically said we're going in tomorrow to proffer i don't know what that means but they're basically going and to tell them everything of course so he went in like the next day and you know my lawyer is like if you call him again i'm not going to represent you yeah so that was still into that you have had contact No, no interest. I haven't heard anything about him in five years, so I'm like super focused on pirate.

Yeah. Have you like reached out to anybody to try and work with them and they just been like, yeah, I'm not going to fuck with him. Yeah, I wrote a lot of letters in solitary, like mostly apologizing to people to like employees, investors, advisors. Some responded then, but like in the past like two weeks, I'm starting to get a lot of people reaching back out. Probably get more after this bottle. Probably. And dude's like hard emotionally. It's like I really, I feel really bad for the investor that I definitely fucked over who like wrote that letter asking for a life sentence but like do I have the self-respect to respond or is it like I was totally wrong I should respond like these things I just don't know how to handle at this point wait what do you mean go

what happened like say say sorry basically to the guy who's like yo you're I hope you had a life sentence before he went in how much did that guy give uh that investor gave I don't want to say because people are going to know who it is then but it was sure it was a it was a meaningful amount of money and they're for sure wronged and like they deserve to to be mad at the judge. But it's like you asked to take away my entire life and now you want to get together. It's like, how do I? Is there any party that's like, yo, maybe you took away his life because he gave his savings to you? For sure. And I could totally like be wrong here, but I think I'm just conflicted like emotionally on that. And like this crazy small world, like I had a

former employee. He was a core member of the team, you know, talented guy. When things went wrong, he was, you know, quick to pass blame. And he's like, he probably thought he would never hear from me again five years ago, right? I get a call a couple of days ago from, you know, an advisor really respect. And this guy's applying for a job at his friend's company. And the CEO of that company called him because they knew he knew me and like, should we hire this guy. So like, I gave I think a fair but good review. But it's like, that's how small of the world is like this dude who's like, yo, Billy is done. Fuck him. And this is a middle age guy. It's now applying for a job and it just doesn't realize that like I'm not the only say, but I definitely

had, you know, serious weight in that decision. Which is crazy how the world works. People are pretty quick to burn bridges and for sure maybe sometimes it shouldn't for sure it's like dude it's just not worth it what's your mental state been like like since you got out of jail like you say like the comments kind of bother you and stuff like is it tough to overcome something as like crazy and viral like is what happened to you yeah i want like good friends but not a lot of good friends and i think before i wanted to have like 100 people around and i thought it was a man because like i had 100 fake friends now i want like six really good friends and like that's kind of the goal i mean to be honest i think the fire festival comments things and this that's just never going to go in until you do the

the next festival never fucking nail it i think i think once you do that they might be like wait a second by the way it doesn't matter what it looks like we're all going i'm going no for real matter what people are saying i don't care if that flyover fuck is going to come in there yeah i'm going no matter what dude i'm there experience it's honestly hilarious but if you bang the next one then it's like then they'll finally shut the fuck yeah yeah there's no other way though but i don't think you getting engaged with it's going to it's not going to help you you know reading the comments. I'm not going to win. I can do something great right now, but it's not going to matter. It's going to take years and it's going to take acing a festival. So no one kill

me, but like there will be won eventually when it happens. I can't wait until you announce it. I love how hesitant he is with the dates and shit now. It's though. I know. A lot of people are rooting for me to get in trouble right now. Are you going to change? Like how do you make this one different when it comes to like marketing it? Are you going to do like, do you have a plan for this one? I think like I had four years to think of marketing campaign. So let me, let me have have the marketing aspect. I mean, you switch it up, like, because now there's a lot of critics out there. Yeah, there's not going to be 20 supermodels there. I think I have a cooler idea. But logistics, I need help. Marketing. Like, my four-year plan come out, boys. I'm like,

yeah, there you got us. So, yeah, there you go. We want to throw a festival, too. Like, we're just so early. And, like, the people in the Bahamas are fucking awesome. And I know there's been a lot of reports about, like, various things there. Like, and I've talked about, like, want to have a couple of solid friends. Like the support there is amazing. And like my business partner has gone back a couple of times. Like, their doors are open. There's houses. There's villas. Like they want us there. They want to have us there. And it's like kind of respecting that. It's like as soon as I'm allowed to go, we are ready to go and really start building again. Yeah. Well, I'm going to tell you in the documentary, there's a guy. There's like a bartender who

has your back so hard. Delroy, you're the man. You're definitely watching this shout to Delray. The flip side is there's a lot of people saying like, or that he was saying maybe somebody else said, but that they were unpaid. Yeah. So is that something that's being addressed? I definitely owe people money. The last week, no one was paid. However, people were paid for the four months before that,

and then for the years that we were doing the much smaller trips. I think my one thing there is that people there are essentially paid on a weekly basis. So if you're not getting paid for four months, you're not going to work. So people were paid up until the end. However, that last week we did hire more people because we were trying to get all hands on decks. And certainly money is owed there. And, you know, paying that back is super, super important to me.

I just ask because it's like you do think you're going to be welcome back with open arms. Do you think that I owe people money and shit? But like, dude, I owe you. But like, what's worse? Like saying, hey, I'm too scared to go. Or like, hey, I'm here. Guys, I really fucked up. And listen, I only made this much money this year.

And here's your percentage. I think it's the better way to do it. But do you think you gave like a bad name to like the Bahamas at all? And like they were kind of affiliated. Yeah, do you think they feel like culturally disrespected? at all or no. I'm sure some people feel that way. I hope that people through the marketing just realized the best part of the marketing was like the natural beauty of these outer islands. And we weren't focused on like the main islands that has all the tourists. These are the

islands of the population of 10, 20, 50, 100 people. So I think they got some increased tourism from it. And people just realize like how beautiful these islands really are. And yes, I know there are guys I owe out there and I promise guys like, I will do my best and I can't promise any dollar amount. But even if it's $20 and I'm not to pay it, like I will pay it and we'll go step by step. I like it. I don't know. How much you think you're on the Bahamas? He's fishy. Yeah. You know, you're not buying it? Like all that to happen there and then there's like, yo, Billy, like, welcome back. Like how much thing? Like, I'm just thinking from devil's like, you might swing on them. Is that what you're saying? Guys, don't, don't, don't

I'm just like, I don't know. I don't know. Yeah. No, dude, like, listen, like, I think that's why the first trip is going to be so, so crazy. That's why he's trying to bring us. Look at that. Why? Because they all know who the fuck you are? I don't get my fucking wallet. They're going to take his shit. They can have you pay, bro. Yeah, I know. Yeah.

Take some weight off your shoulders with these two or what? They're great people. That'd be a good Steve video. He'd probably be done to do that. Paying all the money. So funny. That's actually a good ass idea. It's a big video.

That would be awesome. And they're getting hit by a hurricane right now. That's what I'm asking. How much do you owe you think? I really don't know. That's an exercise I started doing. And the numbers are just like. It's a go fund me.

Like, is it a mail? I got to earn it. I got it. Like, it's all like Bahamas workers. You can't do a GoFundMe to get that money back? I'd rather earn it. Got it. Is it in the mills or hundreds of thousands?

I think to the Bahamas is probably a couple hundred thousand dollars, but like once again, I've not, you know. You could come up with that stuff that bad. Yeah. But like, dude, Hurricane's hanging there right now. So I think if there's any, like, if I earn any money next week, you know, whatever I'm allowed to pay to them. That was certainly.

We could do like a merch drop or some shit and then use all the money and I got to pay it back to the Bahamas workers. I mean, if it's all bartenders and shit. There we go. yeah stock some happy dad do people happy dad bahamas shirts or do people like see you when you're walking on the streets little people know who you are so it's like they throw shit at them so no super interesting is that like right when i got back to new york after the festival people are fucking screaming at me in the streets like that all these balls and now like i'm sure some people

stare at me and hate me but everybody's been super nice so it's kind of like that's like heartwarming in a certain way it's like i think there's like some understanding that like hey it's been five years and you were a total fucking asshole for many years but like we're not sold but maybe there's something more you can

It's very New York It's very New York of them time Yeah it's very New York Yeah it's exactly I haven't left New York So if I walk down in their city I have no idea

But I think so you've been out Like out and about in public I've gone out like a little bit Like I went out one night Like out so far How was that Dude was crazy You should pull up on us tomorrow night

We're hosting at a club Where are you going? Bounce Oh no They're going to kill me Otherwise, we're not coming to Bahamas. I mean, I guess I guess. So I'll say Benny from the Bounce was always super supportive and he actually went to jail too.

So I think he gets it. So, yeah, I love to come in the balance and shout out to Benny. I haven't talked to you in five years, but I know you've been to the ringer as well and came back strong. Wait, you can't go to Bounce? I said I haven't talked to Benny, but one of the owners of the Bounce in five years. Was he an investor? No, but he went to federal jail, but he came back strong. So I appreciate his.

So we've got to talk to Benny tomorrow. Wait, would you pull up with us though or no? I'll come tomorrow. Gike, let's go to the UFC. Take me to the UFC and I'll come to bounce. It's on him. He's the UFC plug. We'll ask Dana.

Oh, fuck. Wait, didn't you? There's a thing that actually one of our people said that he was probably there with you that night, but that you went to bounce the night before he went to jail. I went to bounce like a month or two before I went to jail. It was one of the last clubs I went to for sure, for sure. Is it a good spot? Bounce is fun.

He knows what he's doing. He knows how to, you know. He's a great, like, he's a professional. This is while you're on bond, though, right? It's while on bond, yeah, bond bail, whatever. I think it's called bond. So are you nervous or are you? Like, how hard were you going at that point?

Dude, it was just the worst time ever because, like, you never knew when it was going to end. It wasn't like, oh, on this date, you're going to jail? It's like every month it just kept getting delayed. So are you going crazy on bottles and stuff being like, yeah, this could be my last time? I didn't have any money, so it's like. You were at the bar? I wasn't, like, no, I wasn't at the bar. I should have been.

I didn't really have any money. Yeah. So it's like, it wasn't like going that crazy, but it was, but it sucked. It was like, I don't know what was worse. Like being the guy simping, like paying for the plane for everybody or being the guy with like no money, not when you're going to jail, still trying to have fun. Like it's both like, like shitty life experiences. How hard was that to adapt it when you had no money to spend?

It was hard. Like I got in more trouble because like I just didn't know how to adapt. And I didn't know how to be honest, right? Like I couldn't like, I didn't have the balls to be like, yeah, I'm broke. Like I didn't like, I couldn't find pride in that. And I just kept getting me fucked up. It's like I'm not going to, no one's going to talk to me if I'm broke. So I need to pretend like I still, you know, can do what I was doing six months ago. Yeah. So you think jail ultimately did help you realize that that to be okay. Best thing like ever happened to me. And like I wish it was two years and not forward. But I know I deserved, you know, but I got like so incredible in terms of the experiences. Yeah. Were there any crazy things that you were doing while you were on bond to make money? Yeah. I was, dude, I was fucking around. It was bad. Like I was just trying to hustle. And I thought I could still like pull things like. off. Then I realized, like, no one was taking my calls. I just kept getting in trouble. What were you

doing to, like, get by at that point? Magnususus had been giving people, like, access to different events and, like, you know, different, like, group gatherings and experiences for years. And so I kept trying to sell these experiences that I might have had access to before, but, like, didn't have them currently. Can you even some example? Yeah. So the Met Gala, for example. So, like, my dumb ass sold. I don't know how many tickets like to the Met Gala. I don't know if I, maybe a handful when I was on bond, you know, thinking that, hey, I knew one of the brands sponsoring it. They'll give me a few seats at their table, like, no problem. Not realizing, like, I try to call them and they just like, dude, go fuck yourself. Like, what do you think you're doing? I was just like so detached

from reality. Just like kept getting in trouble. Were they, the tickets sold at that point? Yeah, they were. Oh, shit. Yeah. So I fucked up. Did they add that to. Yeah. And then like, I think that took me from literally getting like a year or two to getting a six year sentence. Oh, shit. But like that fucked me up. Oh, fuck. Yeah. What's, what's a meck out? that ticket cost. We don't get invited to shit like that, so. Yeah, I mean, like, I think like it's semi public, right? But if you pay, you know,

$100,000, $100,000 is a brand, you'll get a table and you can have a certain number of tickets. $150K for a table at the mech out of? What the fuck? That's lame as hell. Fuck that. Yeah. Did you sell one of the tables? I didn't sell a table. I could never get, listen, I didn't have those tickets, right? I thought I could convince one of these brands. But what did you sell them for?

Dude, I was retarded. I was selling them for thousands of dollars when, you know, I was like, underselling them, trying to make money, and I was still so fucking wrong. So terrible. So you get your 10 bands and then what do you do? Start calling these brands and then they're screening my calls. But then do you go to balance and get bottle service or no? Why are you trying to tie him up? That's fucked.

No, it's like, dude, like I'm nothing. Yeah, like yeah. Like literally yes. And but yeah, I was wrong. I mean, like I did have friends too. Yeah. You know, still believe in me. That's what's fucked up is your boys were reaping the benefits,

but not going down with you. I know. They're out there. They're out there. Like, yo, see you, bro. See you in four years. But do you want to me? These fuckers in here?

The guys who got the most, no, no, no. Okay. The guys who got the most free shit were the ones who, like, ditch me the fastest, but the people who, like, got the least were the ones who, like, stood by the most. Well, that's a personality trait. Yeah, it's a personality. Yeah, man. Yeah.

I'm sure you guys have seen that in different situations on a much larger scale, but it's just, like, that's life. So do we talk about what the treasure hunt is? Yeah, so hiding 99 of these bottles, you know, in different cities. And everybody who finds the bottle is going to be invited. back to the Bahamas. We took the first winners back last weekend. And then they'll also be invited to participate in the larger treasure hunt. And I can't tell you guys with the grand prizes yet, but it'll be a larger part of the pirate story in the future. So this is actually bottle number three. So there's now 96, 96 left. They'll be hiding out there. Are they hidden right now?

We hit the first two that were found. This is the third one. We have not hit the fourth one yet. And they're across what? Across all states in the U.S.? We've only done New York so far. It will be expanding different cities. But each bottle comes is like that. What does that give you like a free? So it gets you a free trip, weekend trip back to the Bahamas and then you're officially like part of the larger treasure hunt. And the grand prize, which I just can't like promise yet, is way bigger than a free trip. But it's like a really cool. How many people do you get in that? He's gotten better. There's only 99 bottles growing. Wow. That's a that's a one person or you get a plus two. You get it's a group. Okay. You can establish your like higher crew. Got it.

Well, he's saying free trip though. That's 99 free trip. No, yeah, yeah. But it might take That's going to add up, though. But it might take me three or four years to do it. Okay, okay, I'm not promising. Okay, okay. We've taken one group back. It went really, really well. And, like, dude, anybody can reach out to them.

It was, like, totally done, like, honestly. And they had a great time. And we might need another month before we release the next one. So, like, we're in no rush. Oh, okay. This is a, not 99 at once. I don't want to, like, point fingers, but, like, what if Brad finds the one in California and he sells it to somebody for five days?

Dude, you can't do that, man. But what if he goes that? He would do that. I don't think he would do it. I can't sell that for... I need Brad to me my bodyguard when I land

so we're going to give whatever he needs. I can sell that for 5K real quick man. It's dope. I want to go soon. Yeah, I love for you guys

to come. I mean, I can't wait to... I've been dreaming of going back there. Like, imagine like months and months in solitary like Bahamas, Bahamas.

Let's fucking go. What do you think it is about that place that you love so much? The adventure. And it's like a playground. You land there in the middle of nowhere

on a runway. And yes, there are like cities there as well, but I really like these like outer islands. land in a runway the warmest people and it's just like the world is your oyster like what do you want to do just go do it

it's like a vacation place though right but it's like it's probably not Bahamas like we like you're not getting surprised by the you're not going to Nobu with the Alanis it's like you're fucking out there like you're on an island's one of the random islands you want lobster you're diving with a spear and catching

the lobster have you done that even a spear no lobster for sure like you speared a lobster the coolest part is it brings people together like have you speared a lobster I've spear to lobster but like Stani If we don't know each other, we know each other like this, we go land there and we go out alone on jet skis at night, go fucking night diving, catch some fish, go back and cook it. Like, we're boys.

Listen, man. I'm going to tell you this right now. I'm going to tell you this right now. When we get out there, I'm going to watch you spear a fucking lobster. I'm going to make you spear a fucking lobster. I'm going to make you spear a lobster. To do that 100%. Okay.

Because I'm going to-you're not sparing a lobster. No, but he said he could. If that motherfucker is lying to me, we'll find out right away. Straight up. If I can't spear a lobster, then I, you know, whatever you guys do. What other crazy adventure of shit besides spearing lobster? Like, you fight for food? Do you what, fight for food?

Yeah, I mean, you're spearing lobster. That's pretty crazy. I'm not doing that. Yeah, it's like, what's that movie? I'm getting my surfing turf from fucking down the street. You guys are crazy. I love it. Is there any other crazy adventure of shit you do?

I think it's cool is that there's like so many islands and they all have their own culture. It's like, hey, you're having fun at night at like a bonfire. Like, yo, it's fucking pitch black. There's beautiful stars. There's no like light pollution, right? Let's go hop on some jet skis and go. like find her on a mile and go and maybe someone's there maybe someone's not but like you take a girl you take a friend like you're bonding and that's how when you bring you know the people who's who of

the modeling world or the music world down there you just connect in a different level and you have business ideas you have like relationship ideas and the way people connect I think it's like that drives you you do that one weekend it's like fuck like those bonds are addicting like that's like the drug that you want to go back for more of hell yeah so that four months of putting together firefish that's the most action you've seen, like with chicks. Oh, here we go. Actually, no. Like, seriously, no.

No. I was just, like, trying. I think, like, smart girls. That was your play, though, bringing girl through Bahamas. I mean, it's like, all right, step two, let's do the plane. I mean, the plane was your cheat code for sure, right? The plane was 100% the cheat code. It was the trick where he does the fucking zero gravity.

That's the one where he's trying. But I'm realizing like, that's the setup. If I'm zero graveting with this girl and have like a yacht and like literally three islands frented and things aren't. working like the problem is probably me right like there's like a big issue going on yeah did that ever happen where you're in your head like yo what more can i do for sure and it's like depressing but then you don't realize it's like this is a personal really like i'm like a fat slog right now i was like bonding that's bonding that's dope keep asking those questions no fuck no dude you you guys are me no offense

but like he can't get it done at that he's getting personal advice yeah he's getting real he's sharing it's like yeah i was a moron do you have any any other crazy things Any final words? Give us the craziest shit ever. Yeah. Dude. All right. Let me crack one happy dad here.

Go ahead. Yeah. Let's see. We can give me a theme and I'll rip. I think anything about the models or anything would go crazy. I know we talked about that already. There's got to be someone who was like entitled or like pissed you off or wanted more or some shit. Yeah.

Did you ever personally interact with like Kendall? Or was it just all through business? I just feel like it's a certain shit he can't say. it sounds like dude there's just like so much i wish i could share um because it's legal shit there's a bunch of well you're good now you did your time but now it's yeah and i know but it's also like personal stuff right like fuck it bro you gotta find your pride somewhere or something yeah right let this shit out yeah dude fuck pride hold a fake festival do it again fuck that run it back one time yeah i'm kidding i know no but give us give us something that you

never told before yeah and then we'll close out okay i mean this is not like interesting but i think like the first ever USC at MSG was November of 2016 and that was right in like the midst of our trips I think that was like one of the best nights of my life we brought like a bunch of the fire talent there and that led to like the craziest fire weekend so it's kind of coming full circle been in jail for a while but it's kind of cool to see the UFC were you in Dana's room MSG no dude I just like fucking of course did you buy ringside paid four times too much for a bunch of ringside seats and yeah and of course but solid here we are stupid mentality at the how long ago was that November 2016.

It was the first time ever at MSJ. Dude, it was fucking electric. What fight was it? I think it was McGregor. I'm totally spacing in who he fought, but it was a time of my life.

It doesn't matter if you got his name in there. Yeah, it was like the who's who of like the entertainment world. But it was just like, it was wild. And, you know, that was like,

I was 24. Yeah. How good did you feel at that point when you're flexing? I like, we were doing a trip the next weekend so brought a whole bunch of the town and we were about to take to the trip.

And I was like, I thought I was, you know, Is there any party that was like, yo, I'm sitting the bar really fucking high? For a party? I think like... No, like in front of the chicks. Like, you're like, yo, dude, like, how do I one up?

Gregor, ringside. Dude, this is really personal. Yeah, no. Keep going, though. Yeah, go ahead. No, I'm just curious. Yeah, no, go for it. But they just don't care, right?

They can sense when you're just trying too hard and it's like not attractive. I love this. Thank you. Right. Appreciate that. No, no, you're right. You're right. Yeah, go ahead.

Tell him. Look at him when you say it. You go through this, too, bro. So shut the fuck I don't go through the shit I know you go through the shit Like I meant much cooler You don't spend money

Yeah he does Your girl out of Birkinbag The day I was at your crib That's full camera I would buy Birkenbag Ever That's your first mistake

Yeah well You go to your house And we're gonna do a fucking Go to my house You know what Treasure hunt at Brad's house We have a fucking house I'm in

File number four guys The fuck Birken bag This dumb ass I'm gonna keep your Rolex Now no I need that Yeah okay Yeah I know you do

So guys Who from your crew Is gonna come Come to the first trip to the Bahamas. Bro, I think we're all in to go and just see what happens. Should we ask Steve right now? Yeah. Yeah, maybe he's time.

And confirm. FaceTime him? You want to FaceTime him? Steve would be hilarious. Yeah. No, he's in. We already know he's in. I mean, we know he's in.

Salim would have no idea, but he'll go. Salim can be like what? But get a face time from Steve. Here, you hit him, Stani. My phone's at two. What can I do to make this thing pop? So it goes, it goes as one of your. Well, I think we got to go.

We got to go soon, at least for, like, when you return. I mean, you're not going to return for a year? Dude, like, I'm pushing to go ASAP. It's got to, like, you know. Hold on. We'll do an out video there. Yeah, for sure. I mean, we'll film it.

I mean, we'll make it sweet. Going back to the Bahamas with you for the first time. It'll be funny. Can't wait. How long are you guys in time for? Until Sunday. Nice. Yeah.

So you're parting at Bounce tomorrow night? Bounce tomorrow night. UFC. Nice. We're doing a big happy dad meet up during the day. We're at Brooklyn. Cool. Steve Steve's in for sure but yeah yeah we'll see we'll bring the whole squad Steve

Saline Brad we're live on the potty is Steve next to you okay classic Steve she's down let's go okay wait Selena I got my second bodyguard Selina good classic Steve do you want to picture real quick hey what's going on hey that's Steve's good cool so yeah I mean It's going to be great. Yeah, I fucked up. I was wrong.

Do it on purpose? No. I mean, I, like, lied to investors to try to get money to do it, but I certainly tried to do the event and just, like, didn't understand what I was doing. Did you do it on purpose? Pretty awesome. So, I mean, trying to, like, make it right and really looking forward to kind of getting back to the Bahamas and making an impact there.

So I would love for you guys to all come with me from my first trip back. I just can't promise, like, what's going to happen to me, but you guys would definitely have a good time. So I think that's what we're calling to extend the invite. Exactly. And hopefully get a cool group to come back with me. You're inviting us? Yeah, for sure. Wow. You win? Yeah, I'm like the honor. There you go. Yeah, there's us. All right. Thank you. So pass you back to Stani, but yeah, nice to be to you. And yeah, thanks guys. Yeah. All right. Well, this is it.

Bounce tomorrow night. Yeah. Don't fly. Are you going to come or no. You're looking shaky a little bit. Have you shown face there since you've been out? No, no, I'll come. Have you shown face there since you been out. I've been out, no. I mean, I'd love to go out, though. I mean, I'd love to go out. I haven't gone out a lot. I will come. Yeah. Who's buying? I don't have shit, so we're in for a long night, guys. I'll sneak in the happy deck case that you guys. Hell yeah. We appreciate it, bro. Yeah, thanks, bro. Thank you for coming out. Guys, if you have any upper deck seat to the UFC, hit your boy up. I'm here. Hell yeah. Good shit. Thank you, man. Thank you, guys.