FULL SEND PODCAST - Gary Brecka x Nelk Boys | Ep. 113

Episode Date: January 19, 2024

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For those of you guys that don't know, Gary, he's a human biologist. He's a co-founder of 10X Health. Just started a new podcast, The Ultimate Human, which is absolutely crushing it, right? Thank you. Yeah. We've become friends with Gary and your family, Cole and Madison and stuff, pretty much through Dana White, which we'll get into too. But we thought it'd be cool to have you on.

It's a different type of episode for us, too. So we might be asking some dumb down questions. This is great. This is new to our audience, too. So I feel like we're going to ask some just like normal type stuff. And what's cool is we've been on a health journey, too. 100% together you know we we originally connected um not through social media or you know any of these other things we originally connected because you guys wanted to flick that switch and go on this health

journey um i met you at that uh ufc party remember i wouldn't get off of them do you have that yeah you almost choked me to death at at a bar one night like yeah that was a lot what are you thinking right there were you just like i just felt like it was an overwhelming amount of man love going on and um yeah there it is there it is there There's the, there's, see? Yeah. Well, I was scared. Was that, was it Sugar Sean or something?

I think it was Islam. It was somebody that you guys were connected with and you couldn't handle it. Like, I was like, dude, I am not fighting you right now. I am not your opponent. Like, you literally got me in a rear naked joke in a bar. I was just nervous. Yeah, I'm kind of looking at your security guard like, bro, can you get your dude off me? Or does this only work one way?

So I'm sure if I was choking him. You fuck me up, but I'm turning purple here and you're just hanging out. Tell us, tell us how you started 10X health. Like, how did that come about? Well, I was actually in the mortality space. I was a mortality researcher for like big life insurance companies. So if we got 10 years of medical records on you and 10 years of demographic data, we could tell the insurance company how long you had to live to the month.

And that database where we got all that information from, If that database could see the light of day, it would permanently change the face of humanity. It would upend modern medicine in a way that would be catastrophic, right? Because they have real data on human beings. Like, you know, insurance companies know the day, the date, the time, the location, and the cause of death for hundreds of millions of lives. So it's not what we think is causing it. It's what we know is causing it. And you go back into the medical record, you go back into the demographic data and you go, here were the changes, here were the life changes that these people

made or the mistakes that they made that shorten their lifespan, the shorten their health span. And, you know, the sad thing was in that industry, I was, I was not allowed, I'm not licensed practice medicine for the record. I'm not a physician. I'm a human biologist. So I was not allowed to have any contact with the patient, any contact with the treating physician. So even if I was looking at your medical record, you were applying for a large life insurance policy. And I saw a life-threatening drug interaction. I couldn't let you know about it. I couldn't even contact to your physician to let them know. and I saw over and over and over again.

I read medical records for living and pulled the medical information out and put it into a database to predict life expectancy. And I saw over and over and over again, modern medicine, attempting to do the right thing, but causing severe illness,

making conditions worse, going to treat cholesterol and causing somebody to, you know, crash their hormones and not be able to make cell walls and cell membranes and getting sicker. they would have deficiencies in simple things like vitamin D3, right? Which 50% of the people watching this podcast on are clinically deficient. And 85% of the African Americans and Latino and dark-comlected populations are deficient

and just this little nutrient that we make from the sun. And this deficiency leads to all kinds of conditions that we chalk up to the consequence of aging. You know, weight gain, water retention, poor sleep, poor focus and concentration, poor immune response. It was the second leading cause of morbidity in COVID was a deficiency in vitamin D3. And this is an easy thing to supplement with. And if it goes on long enough, you'll walk into a doctor's office with rheumatoid arthritis like symptoms. You don't have rheumatoid arthritis, but your soul's your feet ache when you get out of bed in the morning, your hips and your ankles hurt. It's hard to make a fist sometimes. And the wrong doctor will

look at you and say, you know what, Kyle, you've got rheumatoid arthritis. I'm going to put you on something called a corticosteroid. And you're just going to take this pill for the rest of your life and you start taking this pill and then six months later you're having i mean six years later you're having a joint replacement and then once you have a joint replacement you you don't ambulate as well you don't you're not as mobile and as soon as you start to reduce your mobility now all of these diseases from your future that you never would have had start to come into your present because sitting is the new smoking right i mean sedentary lifestyle is the leading cause of all cause mortality right now and so i i watched this go just like sitting and working like an office

sitting and working like an office. I mean, human beings don't move, right? Aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort. You know, the more aggressively we pursue comfort, the faster we age. That's why back in the biohacking lab back, there's all kinds of stuff to make you uncomfortable. Steam rooms, saunas, cold plunges.

Because, you know, we got to stop thinking about stress as something that's negative, right? We got to stop telling grandma not to go outside, it's too hot, not to go outside, it's too cold, just to sit down, just to relax, to eat at the very first pang of hunger. This is collapsing all of our natural defense mechanisms, right? I mean, we were meant to spend more than 85% of our time outside.

Human beings spend 97% of our time indoors. We regulate everything. 97%? What the on average? Think about how you got here today, right? You woke up in a covered house. You went to a covered garage. You got in a covered car.

You pulled into a covered garage. You came up a covered elevator. We're in a covered house now. I mean, there's sunlight coming through the window, but the chances of you spend in a large percentage of your time outside. So what happens when you do that? You're disconnected from nature. Think about the last time you had bare feet touching bare soil like dirt, grass, sand, right?

Human beings discharge into the earth. Earthing and grounding is a very real thing, right? And think of the amount of sunlight the average person gets. It's not that we are getting too much sun. We're not getting enough sun, right? I mean, the human body only makes one vitamin. If I pulled your blood work right now, you could see hundreds of vitamins in your bloodstream.

You're only capable of making one. Which is? Vitamin D3. So when God made us, he made us with the ability to make one vitamin. So how important do you think that vitamin is to human function? And as we've moved from outdoors to indoors, that level has plummeted.

Right? And now you see a rise and, you know, all these things like cardiovascular disease and hypothyroid and hypertension and all kinds of mental illnesses. I don't think that we have a mental illness crisis in this country. I think we have a lack of mental fitness, right? We don't think about caring for our minds, caring for our bodies.

You know, we just aggressively see comfort and we age a lot faster. You know, if you look at life expectancy for the first time in measured history, it's beginning to go backwards for the first time. Really? Yeah. And life expectancy is not really being extended by modernness. Yeah, what's the main reason behind that? The main reason that life expectancy extended was,

sewers, the invention of sewers, and sanitation, clean water, clean water and sewers, getting like waste away from you and getting clean water in you. That was the biggest jump in life expectancies. And then there was another big jump with antibiotics. But since then, if you look at cancer treatments, heart treatments, cardiovascular surgeries, you know, the incidence of diabetes and all these chronic diseases, which by the way, start in very young ages, right? I mean, that's why I tell everybody that you should get, this is your temple. right you should get data on this like we did with you guys i mean your transformation was amazing i mean a lot of people saw it right they saw what went on on the outside i got to see what went on

the inside that was where the real game was for me what's he taking um so he's taking uh peptides right amino acid peptides um he's taking uh peptides that are actually helping to naturally raise his his testosterone level he's taking a vitamin do by the way can i yeah sure okay okay okay like go on about his medical workers but um he's taking vitamin d3 um he's taking a um he's taking a multivitamin that's specific to his deficiencies he we tested his genes we looked at five special genes in him and we found out what his body could process and what it couldn't and then we just gave his body that deficiency you see most most people a fact most that are listening to this podcast right now, they're walking around at maybe 50 or 60% of their true state of normal.

They have no idea how good normal feels. They are just a few nutrients away from feeling like a superhuman, sleeping like a bear, having the waking energy of a tiger, having the libido of a lion, you know, having a stronger, healthy response to exercise, clean, clear, cognitive function, strong waking energy. But we don't get data on our bodies. You know, I take entrepreneurs all the time, sometimes when I'm on stage and I'll bring them up on stage and I'll ask them questions about their business and I'll say hey how much money did your business make last month oh I made $662,000 but what was your net profit 144,300 dollars how many employees do you have 17 what's your revenue for employee 70,000 um what's your hemoglobin A1c three month average year blood sugar

where's your um cholesterol any idea what your testosterone level is nothing they have no data on the temple you know more about their business that they know about their bodies and i think this is what my message is about like go out and get some data on your body gamify your health and then just watch every aspect of the rest of your life just crush it just like any just like anything else you would do and yeah whether it's entrepreneurship like you need the data you need the numbers on what you're doing yeah so outside of not being as mobile what are the other like unhealthiest things people are doing well you know the sad thing is that um you know our food supply is uh you know water supply is is is really contaminated um and by contaminated i mean we purposely put chemicals into

our water supply fluoride chlorine um the human beings are not meant to ingest in large quantities so think about you know i tell people there's three things you should get out of your life if you're listening to this podcast number one is tap water stop drinking tap water um it's full of fluoride especially in the United States, full chlorines, full mycoplastics, even pharmaceuticals now. So what we did was, you know, during the Industrial Revolution or the Agricultural Revolution, we started making fertilizers called phosphate fertilizers. And when you make a fertilizer, you have a waste product called fluorosilistic acid. So we didn't know what to do with this waste product because if we left it in the fertilizer,

it would kill the seed. So he took it out of the fertilizer, and we decided to put it in our municipal water supply as fluoride. So now we know now it is not. It's not up for debate. You know, the science is on my Instagram. If you want to see the links to it, the National Toxicology program just put a big, huge clinical study out about it. So we put this fluoride in our drinking water.

It's a neurotoxin, right? So, and then we, the way that we raise our food, you know, we spray our food with something called glyphosphates. This is found in Roundup. Glyphosphates is one of those chemicals that's so deadly that it actually kills the seed. So then we genetically modified the seed. And now you have this glyphosphate in our food. food you have this fluoride in our water um and so we're kind of micro poisoning ourselves all the time

what's the reason that they're put in the fluoride in the water and the phosphate on like what's their logic for that well i mean their logic is that um it prevents dental decay right so there's there is very very very marginal horrifically weak data that marginally indicates that there might be slight positive impact on protecting the enamel of teeth with fluoride. So they jumped on that and they said, now we have a place to dump this, all of this industrial waste, this fluorescolic acid that we're getting from making fertilizer. So we're going to dump it in municipal water supplies. But without an exception, dude, it's super fucked up.

Without an exception, if you look at the municipalities that put fluoride in their water, as fluoride goes up, IQ goes down. so the more fluoride in the water the lower the IQ that's a material fact in 52 or the 54 studies that they did they found an inverse relationship between IQ and and fluoride so you know I tell people like to wake up and sort of um you know just take charge of your own health get some data on your body put an imaginary fence around yourself and filter things before they get to your body rather than letting your body be the filter what's one common thing that you see in your patients that they lack

that you see in their data? So, you know, one common thing that we see, and I don't want to use their word patient because I'm not a doctor, but clients that I work with because I have a huge clinical team and my doctor's always, you know, do the treatments on the patients,

but, you know, we see the start in very, very, very young populations. I'm talking about people in their 20s. There's something called metabolic syndrome. Metabolic syndrome is one of the leading causes of cardiovascular disease, which is the leading cause of death. And we think of cardiovascular disease and heart attacks and all this kind of stuff is shit that happens to old people, right?

Oh, yeah, my grandfather died of a heart attack. My great grandmother, she died of a stroke. But this doesn't start in late in age as this starts early in life, right? And it just nibbles away at you. So what's metabolic syndrome? Abdominal obesity, poor cholesterol, poor HDL cholesterol, poor blood sugar, what's called hemoglobin A1C. Very high levels of incident, high levels of fat in the blood. Do we, if you have two of those five, you have metabolic syndrome. We see five of those five in younger and younger 20-somethings

all the time right now. And it's easy to change. We call it a modifiable risk factor, right? Stop eating GMO foods, you know, stop drinking tap water, get seed oils out of your life, get some data on your body. You materially will change the entire trajectory of your life, doing simple things, expose your skin to sunlight take your shoes off and touch the surface of the earth learn to do a little bit of breath work take a cold shower like simple things that you can use to challenge your life challenge your body and strengthen it it'll i mean how much better is your business running now that you guys are paying attention to your health a lot everything works after the gym yeah dude this dude comes in and he's like man i can't i'm going to the gym right after this i feel freaking great

meet four meals a day i feel great like yeah well i think it's like what you said and you say it's your drug of choice, which is, is that referring to the cold punch or just everything in general. Yeah, I mean, everything in general, but my real drug of choice is the cold plunge. Yeah. Because, I mean, Dana, it was talking about it on a podcast, what cocaine buzz last nine to 12 minutes, the cold plunge lasts six hours. Is it the same buzz, though? Well, I guess we could run a clinical trial on it.

Do you want to participate? Do some testing tonight? Yeah, we do some testing. I only know how the cold plunge feels, but yeah. Okay. Come on. You didn't want to go to another question like that. Prefer for the cold plunge.

Yeah. because it doesn't alter it doesn't alter your face or anything you know what I mean yeah it doesn't alter your face it doesn't make your mouth lock shut yeah exactly yeah they're not just like like

the place where cocaine is accessible and the places that cold plunges are accessible is like how do we get a cold plunge in 11 at 6 a.m yeah yeah one like you're a little too hammered and you really want to get this chick on you know what I mean like they should put um I know the owner of 11 I'm going to talk to him about putting cold punches in there

maybe drop the drug how to stop the drug problem Be like, yeah, you can like, you don't have to go into the stall, brother. Just go, just to, you know, bang it right and just get in the coal punch for five minutes and go back. How bad is cocaine for the body? It's actually not the cocaine. It's what's in the cocaine right now. I mean, cocaine is Russian roulette nowadays. It's not the cocaine of 10 years ago.

There's so much fentanyl in street drugs, and it's creeping into, it's creeping into things that you wouldn't even consider to be street drugs. And so it's Russian roulette because, you know, 10 years ago. Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, if you're out partying, you know, there was not a lot of likelihood that it was laced with fentanyl. And fentanyl is one of those drugs where you're fine, you're fine, you're fine, you're dead. I mean, you read about it in the paper here in Miami all the time, you know, once you guys come down, you're golf buddies, they don't, they party one time a year, they get together, they go out, they go to a club, they get a hold of something like that, and then fentanyl, you know, they get on the wrong side of that, catches up with them. So what, cocaine without fentanyl is not as bad? or like well i mean i'm not taking the bait man no i'm just like i'm just actually asking what what do the effects if it doesn't have fentanyl the next day not nearly uh the risk that if it had fentanyl

same with marijuana i mean you know the effects of marijuana without fentanyl are going to be a lot riskier if there's fentanyl would you say drinking is worse than cocaine that's a that's an interesting question i think the cocaine is riskier right i mean you know it's cocaine could kill you um yeah you know You'd have to drink a lot to die. But, you know, there's, there are no studies supporting safe levels of alcohol anymore. You know, there used to be a bunch of junk studies that said a drink a day, keeps the doctor away or the French have lower cardiovascular disease because they drink a bunch of wine. That's complete nonsense. The D-Gens made those up.

Yeah. But, you know, it's not the alcohol. It's what the alcohol becomes. That's why I actually, I'm a fan of your brand because you guys are at least trying to, I'm not going to say alcohol is healthy, but you're making like a healthy alternative. you're at least taking steps to say, hey, look, we know everybody's going to drink. And I don't have an issue with it either. But if you're going to, at least drink the cleanest thing that you can. Yeah.

That's, you know, that's why I'm a fan of your product. I'm a fan of, you know, tequila's because it's going to happen. So, you know, we can just mitigate some of those risks. What's the worst thing you could drink beer? Beer is one of the worst. If you want to get shredded. Oh, dude, then it's the worst thing. Yeah, because, you know, think of where beer comes from hops, wheat, barley, grains.

and these are sprayed with folic acid. 44% of the population can't even process folic acids. Well, first of all, you get the inflammation from that. It's destroying your mood. There's empty calories in most beers. But, you know, a lot of times it's what the alcohol comes from. Greens, potatoes, hops, barley, really cheap sources, the GMO foods. So when it comes from those sources, it's in that alcohol.

And then you put that into your body. I mean, look what happens when you reduce the amount of, drinking um you know that you're doing or you switch from things like beers which are just full of empty calories and inflammatories to other things like a seltzer or clean tequila and water some material change in how you feel the next day and remember 44% of the population can't process those grain based how do you make the whole like if you're partying going out for a night drinking how can you make it the healthiest and like least risk of like a hangover um hydrate and b vitamins right so if i'm about to go out i just want to drink as much water as possible

drink water drink water you know cocktail water cocktail water cocktail water because first it's the dehydration right and then it's the amount that's processed through the liver so that so the alcohol becomes something called acetyl aldehyde that's the poison that goes up and makes you feel like shit and then you get um acidic and that's why you you know you you just don't feel well so i mean if you wake up in the morning actually do some breath work um if you had access to breathe oxygen but if you if you could just wake up in the morning get out in the sunlight and do some breath work getting a cold plunge, getting a steam room, and hydrate again. You can be over, hangover in 90 minutes.

With talking about hydration, why do you think hydrogen water is like the best? Because you were explaining to me earlier. Hydrogen water is the best water you can put in the human body. That little thing that I gave you right there, that's called in, that's from Echo, H2O, Echo Water. That little thing, you pour your spring water in there, you pour your bottle water in there, and you hit that little button and it adds hydrogen ions. There are 1,400 studies.

on the positive impact of hydrogen on human beings. They're looking at it for things like Parkinson's and neurodegenerate disorders, but it helps you digest food. It helps you, it helps you break down your supplements. It feeds a whole class of bacteria in your gut called hydrophiles. It's the way it occurs naturally in streams

that are running in nature. So if you can take your water and pour it in one of those things, turn that thing on and put the hydrogen ions in there and then drink it, game change. You let me know how you feel in a few weeks. I'm gonna try it. We're talking about it before. This drinking thing too,

I think a lot of people want to know. How do you like, like Steinie said, when you're out and you're trying to like, let's say we're, because I was trying to do this too, I was trying to get shredded. And I'm obviously going to go out and party and, you know, once a week. That's what I tried to do. So how do you like, when you're drinking something, what are you looking for? Are you looking at the calories? Are you looking at the carbs?

I'm looking at the source, right? So the best, you know, the best alcohol is tequila, right? It comes from agave. So it's processed liver through the liver. It also is not grain-based. So the grain-based alcohols are a little worse. And then you have celtzers and clear alcohols. So you guys are right there.

Then full-bodied red wines and then everything else. I would put beers and sweet-infused alcohols at the very bottom. I mean, there's nothing worse than sugar and alcohol. Right. Those two, that is a deadly combination, right? Because the sugar will get processed first. The alcohol will build up and then it'll all hit the liver and don't feel like that. It's like a sugary, like a red bull vodka.

Like twisted teas. Yeah, like twisted teas or like peach knops or like any of those lique cores. Those have like 26 grams of sugar a pop. Ooh, dude, that's insane. And you can put down like vodka red bull. Yeah. Oh my God. Full sugar red bull and a vodka.

And that's the caffeine too. Yeah. And you feel like you can't be killed by a bullet until four in the morning. And then the next day you feel like you got steamrolled. Yeah. That is the worst kind of sugar. The worst hangover is high sugar and high alcohol. in combination on an empty stomach that is an absolute recipe for a disaster i don't drink i'm

not drinking on an empty stomach will mitigate it hydrating while you drink will mitigate it using drinking celters or or tequila will mitigate it um but at some point you know not for alcohol is enough wine wine has a lot of sugar though doesn't it like is it like five grams of sugar in a glass of wine especially like white wines you know um white wines and presecos and things like that super high in sugar i mean if you ever get really really wasted wine wasted or champagne wasted Mine hangovers are the worst. What's the difference between calories in like wine or red wine and white wine then or the sugar? Red wine tends to have fewer calories, full-bodied red wines than most whites, you know,

like chardonnays and proscicos and reeslings. Those are super high in sugar. And, you know, like you look around a club at night and everybody's just slamming champagne. And they feel amazing because the carbonation actually gets the alcohol in your body faster. and then the alcohol hits you and then there's some caffeine in there too so you're like you're up all night and then when that when that sugar and alcohol hits you that is a steamroller is the wine is good for your heart is there truth in that or resveratrol is good for your heart that's what's in red wine so you can take resveratrol and not get the alcohol you don't need

the alcohol to combine with the resveratrol resveratrol is amazing lengthens telomeres it's a telomeres lengthener, which is one of the measures of how old you are biologically. It's good for your cardiovascular system. And resveratrols, I take resveritral every day. This is the most DGEN health podcast. Dude, we just went like right off a cliff. Like, I thought we were going to talk about like my journey in the health space. You know, like, is cocaine better than tequila?

And everybody in the background here, by the way, is taking notes. You're like, okay, stop the cocaine, start this. I think our whole audience has a note out of right now. I swear to God. Yeah. No, this will be huge for a lot of people. What got you so curious into this whole? health stuff like when did you start with that you know it's it was um it was a career that i

regretted which ended up being the greatest gift to me um you know i went to undergraduate for biology i went to grad school for human biology and then when i graduated i got into the space and the insurance space which i was fascinated by the data right i was like you know i get to read medical records and crunch all this data and and we we built this model called a probabilistic model very accurate by the way um i get a lot of flack online about it like well if you could predict you know how many more months somebody had left on earth you'd be jesus or you would have won a Nobel prize it's not my science you know it's the science from the industry it's some of the most accurate science in the world i mean there's no other financial services industry on the planet that would

take that level of risk on a single variable right I mean, when insurance company is getting ready to put $25 million worth of risk on your life or $50 million worth a risk on your life, only one thing matters. How many more months do you have left on earth? So they are very good at predicting that. If you look at what happened in a 2008, 2009 financial services crisis, we have 364 banks fail. You didn't have a single insurance company fail, not one, right?

So they're very good at what they do. A valid death claim in the United States has never failed to have been paid, ever. So they're very accurate at what they do, and it's because they follow the data. right i mean watch what starts happening to people that have had multiple vaccinations and multiple boosters you're going to see that that it becomes more and more difficult if not impossible to get large life insurance policy why because they're following the mortality data right um so the same thing is true with certain pharmaceuticals we you know we knew about the opioid crisis that they were addictive long before you started hearing about it because we would actually see it in the medical record

holy crap this person had back surgery and they got on um pain medication they never got off they just went from this doctor to that doctor to this doctor to that doctor they're eight nine 10 years down the road pain's gone they're still in pain medication so then we would start to use that to impact their mortality and what really started to bother me was after doing this for so long i was so lost um in that industry like all i wanted to do was be wealthy and um and here i was just predicting when people were going to die and i and i had this huge you know they had this massive amount of knowledge I wasn't making a positive impact on anyone. And eventually I just realized that there were human beings on the other side of these spreadsheets.

Right. It wasn't just data. And so I left that industry abruptly. And I said, you know, I'm not going to spend one more minute of my life predicting how soon people are going to die. I'm going to spend the rest of my life trying to help people live healthier, happier, longer lives. And so I started a company called Streamline Medical Group. with my kids and my fiance at the time. And we got bought by Grant Cardone about four years later.

So Streamline Medical Group became 10x health. And then he and his team helped us scale it. So it's really blown up. We do about, we did 20,000 genetic tests last month. So the message is resonating, you know. And I'm always cautious to remind myself and remind my partners and our employees that this message doesn't belong to us.

I mean, it belongs to humanity. You know, I'm blessed enough to have this flow through me, but this is not my message. And, you know, the more that we understand that humanity just needs this information, somebody to sieve through all of the nonsense and to say, here are some simple things you can do to change the trajectory of your life.

And it's been awesome being a part of so many, people's lives that have changed you know i mean i blew up because of dana white um and in in in a big way because his transformation was so profound so many people saw that and they go holy shit but what i hope people take away from that is um not that it was super expensive because it wasn't but maybe i can do the same thing and you guys have done it yeah do you think people get scared away because like health care this stuff it is expensive yeah so like for people that you know might not have it like that or they look at like oh well Dana's got all this money of course you can make that transformation so I think it might people might be unmotivated by that yeah but you know it's not

expensive sunlight um touching the surface of the earth doing breath work taking a cold shower not drinking tap water um you know as soon as you start to get some money put a fence around yourself start eating organic foods yeah I'm not saying you have to be a vegan vegetarian raw food diet you have to be carnivore overnight you know there's no specific diet just eat whole foods right If your great-grandmother wouldn't recognize it, you probably shouldn't eat it. Yeah. Right. So, you know, we take so many things out of a wrapper and, you know, foods are not meant to be mauve and pink and chartreuse and purple.

You know, we put so many of these food dyes and everything. So you can simplify things and making massive impact on the trajectory of your life. You know, so I think, you know, part of the reason why 10x health has blown up the way that it has is just because the message, is really resonating people are like okay i mean i i really do need to get some data on my body i really do need to just make some simple changes and choices in my life that um that that that will affect every touch point you know in my in my life and i keep coming back to you guys because i you know your audience is a is is a younger audience and don't make the mistake that um youth is an excuse for not taking care of yourself is that

That goes away. Yeah, I think, too, when you see, like, I think we're at that age where it's like, like, like, I'm turning 30 this year. So, like, my goal, too, is like, I want to be, like, healthy. Like, we have the time now to do it right now. Yeah. You know, there's no point in waiting until we're, like, 40 or 50. Like, the fact that we have that opportunity right now to be healthy.

Because I get a hold of a lot of people, you know, not when it's too late, but there's a lot to unwind, right? When you put 30 years of bad decisions on yourself and then you wake up one day and you're like, shit, now I have all the money that I ever want. my kids are out of the house I can finally start to enjoy life but my feet and ankles hurt so damn bad when I get out of bed first thing in the morning I don't really care to travel you know and you'd be surprised how many people are just accepting these things as a consequence of aging and they're not you know they're not I feel the best I've ever felt my I'm out of my mind I mean I feel

the best I've ever felt my life and I'm you know 53 I'll be 54 this year um you know I work out with my on. I travel intensely. You know, my kids are part of, part of my business. You know, we, we see clients together. We travel together. We're like, it's, it's, you know, your health, your health is everything. You know, you only got one temple. Health as well, yeah. This is kind of off top as well. Talking about the youth, how, how, how bad is this whole vape and addiction to nicotine? Well, you know, it's, it's not just the addiction to nicotine. It's how, how, it's the vehicle that we're using to get nicotine, you know, into kids because, you know, when I was growing up, everybody was smoking cigarettes and then it became really gross and kind

of uncool to smoke cigarettes. But it's super, super easy to vape. I mean, you can, it smells like blueberry, it's pull it out. Yeah, and it doesn't infect the rest of the room. I mean, if I would, if I would vaping the people over there, not choking to death, you know, um, so it was almost better, uh, that people smoked because smoking, you know, major hand stink. made your clothes smell people in other in the restaurants you know they outlawed it in restaurants it became a lot harder to smoke cigarettes yeah i never thought like that's a good take on that but now it's now it's just super easy and super accessible um so how actually bad is it for your body well it's really bad for your body i mean nicotine is right up there with heroin in terms of

it's level of addiction what the fuck yeah not in terms of damage oh i thought you said addiction i was about to say all right yeah an addiction i thought it was like i was like i was like i'm Fucked. No, I heard addiction. I was like, okay, okay, okay. I really didn't realize this whole podcast was going to be about drugs and smoking and drinking. This is maybe the first time I've ever spent this much time on that. But you think about it. But now, you know, it's like I saw Andrew Tate talking about smoking cigars the other day. And somebody asked him, they're like, well, if you smoke cigars, but you're against vaping, he's like, yeah, I know what's in this cigar. It's tobacco. And, you know, chop tobacco. And, and, you know, and the role. And he's like, when I look at a vape pen, I'm like, tobacco doesn't come in pumpkin spice, right? So what's happening to that? How are they creating that pumpkin spice? Well, that's a chemical, right? And some of these are forever chemicals. So, you know, nicotine causes damage, but these forever chemicals can cause permanent damage. Popcorn lung. So you see respiratory disease and younger and younger and younger ages now permanent respiratory disease, what they call

popcorn lung in really young ages. I mean, kids are starting to vapeckons. at 11 years old now. All right, I'm quitting. I'm going to quit. So how about Zins? I haven't really checked as that. What is that? Is that just nicotine? It's like the pouches.

Yeah, I'd rather you take straight nicotine pouches than, you know, I mean, nicotine in small doses is linked to being a norotropic. You know, it's actually. So Zins are confirmed better than darts. I would much rather you take, if that's just pure nicotine, take that, then smoke of vapor, smoke, smoke cigarettes, because that's where the delivery system is creating the damage right um you know a lot of times the delivery system is creating the damage it's fucking dude 11 years old that's yeah i mean it's it's crazy how young they're because and it's

because it's not really so taboo it's like a you know a blueberry vapor you know pumpkin spice and they can just throw it in their bag mom and dad don't know they're doing it the whole house doesn't stink it's not like they're doing bong hits in their room yeah you can hide that pretty easily too yeah you can seal it pretty easily i mean it's crazy how you know you know you know that's that's one of the hardest things that i work with clients too is to get them you know get them off of those things which by the way the cold plunge works great for right you can you can you can you can replace that dopamine hit with a cold plunge i mean you if you smoke um or do anything else that raises your dopamine do you do blow just do that and then

the next day try getting in a cold plunge for three minutes and get out and see how much better you feel longer and then you'll have a new drug of choice It's just that a lot of people don't, they haven't thought about that option, right? I can tap into that same feeling that I'm chasing with cigarettes or vape or with cocaine. I can actually get that feeling

and have a positive, you know, result. So I'm not against you trying to feel the way that those things make you feel, but maybe you just make a different choice on how you get there. You just lose the bonding experience with Cold Punch. No, in the deep talk. Dude, we should actually do,

we should actually go through the biohacking lab. I was a lot of cool stuff. Oh, I mean, last time you're here, you and Gabe and I, we did it. Gabe's off camera over there, but yeah, Gabe did it. That was your longest cold punch, too, wasn't it? How long did you do? You probably shred some weight when you're shivering, right?

It is actually really good for weight. It burns the most scalates. Yeah, I mean, for the amount of time, it really does. I mean, it raises your metabolic rate. I get, I get, you know, like the haters on Instagram, like there's no direct evidence that cold punching, you know, causes fat loss. So that's absolutely not true.

It does burn calories, right? It burns calories. It activates something called brown fat. I mean, there's a cost to raising your temperature. I did six minutes one time, and I think my body was shivering for 30 minutes after. Yeah, was it really cold? Really cold, but like, I can feel it. Yeah.

But, I mean, there's no evidence that colder is better or longer is better. I keep it at 48 to 50 degrees. I mean, they're for three minutes minimum, six minutes maximum. You feel freaking amazing. Yeah. You know, it's like a contest now on Instagram. Well, I get at 37 degrees. I get at 33 degrees.

yeah i get freaking liquid nitrogen now there's like the debate like don't do it after a workout do do it before your workout yeah you should do it before a workout because you think about so don't do do it after um don't do it after a workout if you're trying to gain muscle if you're trying to gain muscle i mean think about what happens when you work out right so let's say you did a heavy squat workout and you just tear a bunch of quad muscle okay what does the body do it's going to send more blood flow there it's going to send more amino acids there it's going to pull it's going to pull something called creatin out of the muscle it's going to it's going to send it help it's going to send it proteins and and it's going to send it oxygen

and it's going to pull carbon dioxide and pull inflammatory materials out. It's going to repair that tissue. Why would you want to shut that down right after you damaged it? The whole idea of going to the gym is to tear muscle and then the body repairs it

and it grows back larger. So that's what you want. So you want to cause that injury and then allow the body to heal it. So if you get a cold plunge prior to exercise, it's actually smart to get hyperthermic after exercise.

So go into a sauna when you're done working out, like a dry sauna or an infrared sauna. I mean, that's a great thing to do afterwards. Or just take a regular shower, right? But don't get into a cold plunge after intense exercise. You just shut down the games in your main.

What about like hours later in the day? Hours later in the day, four hours, more than 45 minutes after exercise, you're probably fine. Add us on Nelp boys because we are posting on Snapchat every single day. All the crazy shit that's happening. We're posting it in real time. It's literally like a daily vlog. We have over 2 million followers on there. It's getting over like a million views a day.

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and it's 72 74 degrees and they got hypothermia and died so water removes heat from the body 29 times the rate of air so when you get into a coal plunge four main things happen one you get a peripheral vasoconstriction your your your your vascular system clamps down to try to save your life so it shoves all that oxygen into your core liver lungs pancreas kidneys up to your brain then it activates something called brown fat, which is your thermostat, right? Because the body temperature's dropping. Well, if you're not exercising, how you're raising your body temperature, brown fat turns on. It takes calories and turns them into heat, right? So it starts to raise your body temperature, so you're burning calories. And the other thing it does is it causes a massive enderfin rush.

Enderfins are pleasure hormones like dopamine. And the dopamine buzz lasts six hours or more. So now you get a big mood boost. You get a big increase to your metabolism. You get a massive shock oxygen up to your brain your liver lungs pancreas kidneys all that all of that um and then that's why when you get out you feel so good and the other thing that happens is your liver releases a protein called a cold shock protein right this this these proteins you mean you want to blow your mind google cold shock proteins and just see the benefits of these things they're free they're in your liver right now you get in a cold punch your liver will dump them into your bloodstream you feel so clear so clean, so awake,

freaking amazing. You know, we had a Christmas party here and like 14, 15 of my staff members came in and we stayed, and they stayed here with me. We went out late. We had a Christmas party. Then we went out that night. The next day, the entire staff

was in steam room, sauna, and cold plunge. And everybody in like 45 minutes felt amazing. Because the hangovers are so bad now. Like for me, no, they're so bad. The life goes back to that. Yeah, it always goes back to that.

But you need the cold plunge, like I need a cold plunge in a sauna after a night out. Like that's my, I go, I'll probably go on the elliptical for 30 minutes and then cold plunge sauna. That's the only way to balance back down. Dude, because you are baking the body alkaline again, right? It's acidic because of all the acetyl aldehyde. You're making it alkaline. You feel amazing.

You do the same thing with breath work. So, and I try to talk about things that are readily accessible. I mean, if you got a hundred grand line around, you can buy a red light bed. If you don't have a hundred grand line around, you can take your shirt. short off and go, expose your skin to sunlight, right? I have a hypermax oxygen system, which you breathe high amounts of oxygen on a treadmill. But if you want to dump five grand into a hypermax oxygen system, learn to do breathwork. I sleep on a PMF mat, pulse electromagnetic field. It makes the body alkaline at night. But if you don't want to drop five grand on a PMF mat,

touch the surface of the earth. But we don't want to think that these things are so beneficial, but they are. I mean, taking your shoes off and going for a walk on the beach and then going, you know, getting a little bit of sunlight and then going back into your condo it's like man what does that do the grounding so grounding causes you to discharge into the earth human beings build up a charge right right so if i actually pricked your finger right now and put your blood on a slide we can do it if you want i got a microscopes in the other room um and we put your blood on a slide you would see that all your red blood cells are kind of clumped together and stuck right like like too many cars trying to take the same exit as soon as you contact the surface the earth you discharge into the earth you

ground with the earth and when that happens the all of those cells start to separate again they have the same charge remember if things have opposite charges they attract they have the same charge they don't touch that's what you want in your cells so you can get into that state by taking your shoes off and going for a five six minute walk on the surface of the earth touching the sand dirt grass um and you'll actually see the changes in your in your blood it's part of the reason why you feel so good you know it's amazing and part of the reason why you feel so good and how about breath work because i feel like i feel like everyone's on the cold plunge way but i think like grounding and breathwork they think it looks stupid or it's like grounding sounds dope well no i'm saying like just from what i

see just from what i see i'll do that all day yeah just from what i see you're gonna just go and just start walking on every day you're not doing a bit touching the surface of the earth maybe all right i'm pumped to see you do that i think kyle's calling you out i think i think you might have called bullshit on the daily beach walk no i'll post some stories of me doing it now every day yeah okay um great i mean i'm i'm i'm super down with that but breathwork is the same thing you know the father of breathwork in my opinion it was whim hoff but there's so many breathwork techniques out there you can get paralysis of analysis i i'm actually doing breathwork challenge this month i did a three-day water fasting challenge last month and um just walking people through an eight-minute

breathwork routine where you just take three rounds of 30 deep breaths take 30 deep breaths you exhale you hold your breath as long as you can because holding your breath raises carbon dioxide carbon dioxide is the main vasodilator in the body not nitric oxide people take these NO2 supplements before they go work out so they can actually get the pump that nitric oxide is not the main vasodilator carbon dioxide is one of the reason why you get vascular while you're exercising and after exercise is because your veins fill with carbon dioxide so you can you can tap into these natural things you know three rounds of 30 breasts take 30 dirty breaths, exhale, hold, let the carbon dioxide build up, inhale, hold, let that oxygen

go into the cells and start again. That will also become people's new drug of choice. You feel amazing after doing just breathwork. But because it's free and it's so accessible, people don't really want it. What time do you usually do the breath workout like in the mornings? As soon as I get up. As soon as I get up. I have a funny little path in here. So like I wake up in the morning, I splash water on my face, brush my teeth, then I immediately going and get in the cold punch um which i used to not do but then i was actually watching a david gagan's podcast and he was like stop negotiating with yourself you know that sets the tone for the day too

if you could start your day with that yeah you can do anything yeah you can and and so i just walk in you know strip down and bang by the time i'm debating with myself or whether or not i should do it i'm already in the cold punch and never have i once regretted it you get out of there you feel like you win the fricking lottery right and then i go into the other room i get on this treadmill i put this oxygen mask on called hypermax i walk for 10 minutes go down to the end of the hallway getting a red light bed for a few minutes and then i have coffee now go right outside and do breath work and usually by that time the sun's you know sun's coming up well first light is is is another thing too you know we we don't realize how beneficial the first 45 minutes of light is during a day all right um

because there's no uva there's no uvb ray so there's no damaging rays you expose your skin to sunlight first thing in the morning, it will do more to help you sleep that night than anything. Really? Yeah. How so? Well, because it resets cortisol receptors, which is a waking hormone, resets melatonin receptors, which is a sleep, you know, which is sleep hormone. So we get so out of cycle with, you know, the sun, again, because we regulate everything.

We regulate our temperature, regulate our lighting that just try for, just try for, you want to do a really cool experiment for five days. Just try getting up in the morning right around. daybreak exposing as much skin as you can to sunlight don't go out there naked your neighbors you know everybody can see me on my balcony but put a pair of shorts on go out expose your skin to sunlight right do a round of breathwork and then take a cold shower none of those things will cost you one penny everybody's got a shower everybody can see the sun and everybody can do breathwork and just if you do that for four or five days you will never not do it again you will travel doing that

you'll wake up every day your body will chase it like a rat to cheese instead of just getting i'm going straight to the coffee maker try to get outside do breath for expose your skin to sunlight and then just take a cold shower yeah you mentioned that that helps sleep at night helps sleep at night i don't know why i feel like everyone now has to take melatonin or like some sort of substance to sleep yeah i mean and a lot of these drugs like a lot of these these these drugs that they use to put you to sleep zolopetum nitrate diazepam all these other things are are not actually helping you sleep what they're doing is the blindfolding the brain's ability to wake you up. Well, the brain wakes you up when you're sleeping

because you're low on oxygen, right? So what these drugs do is they allow you to suffocate. So when you wake up in the morning and go, oh, man, I hate taking Tylenolp. You know, because it's still in my system the next day. It's not in your system anymore. That drug's been out of your system for hours. You're feeling the effects of having suffocated

for the last six hours. That's why you feel like shit. That's why you have a headache. That's why it takes 45 minutes to get the motor going. So I'm not a huge fan of drugs to put you to sleep, but magnesium, melatonin, thineine, those kinds of things are excellent for you to help you sleep.

What else can you do that's natural? You can do box breathing, which is like, you know, what they do in the special services where they do a four second inhale, four second hold, four second exhale, and another four second hold.

It'll just relax your mind and help you separate your day from your sleep cycle. So getting a good, like no matter what time you're going to breath, try that, try box breathing. Four second inhale, four second hold,

Four second exhale, four second hold. And watch how many times you can trace that square before you pass out. You won't even remember how many those squares you imagine getting around before you're actually in a deep sleep. How was it working with Jelly Roll? We had him on the pod. Oh, dude, he's awesome, man.

He's, first of all, I love his music. And I love his story, too. Oh, yeah. Did you see his, what was it, CMAs? Yeah, yeah. Dude, he just hammered it in like that 30-second speech. He's an absolute fucking, that guy's an angel. He said he's on colds.

Dude, he is an angel. And I, you know, he's, he's been public about, you know, working with me. And I'm so excited to be. Oh, he did? Yeah. Oh, that's awesome. I'm so excited to be on this journey with him. And he's been very vulnerable about it too.

He said, you know, Gary, this is the first time that I felt like my weight is killing me. And I feel like that guy's got a real message for the world. If you really listen to the lyrics and his songs, man, it is deep. crazy and and you and you know that those lyrics are coming from a story that is very visceral very authentic very real so um you know this is what i mean about loving what i do not feeling like i work a day in my life you get to meet great humans like that and be a part of their journey so we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna we're gonna strip about 250 pounds off of him in the next and how long you think in the next 12 to 14 months 250 250 pounds he weighed in at 494

150 in a year? Yeah. I just did 105 pounds on. The next podcast that I'm launching at The Ultimate Human is a bookie from Vegas that, we know we stripped 105 pounds off of him and not an ounce of lean muscle, 105 pounds off of him in six months. Almost do the day. Stani, lead into your favorite drug question.

I'm going to you. Are we going back to cocaine and fentany? No, no, that's not. Because I wanted to leave that one in the beginning of the podcast. Well, no, I don't know. Because by the way, those are a great weight loss. and that's not my favorite i don't know why you assume that either i'm just i'm just i don't know no experience with any of that in the 2024 but uh 20 24 so like last time he really lost

a lot of weight there didn't eat for a month technically i guess yeah yeah no from the second on yeah okay so that's that's that's good you've been over for six days that's awesome you're hey you're gonna run you got to start somewhere dude yeah um no but there's this new phase like and i from the outside looking in i don't really know anyone on it but you see it a lot like people are now taking ozempic for just to lose weight yeah for me and i look at that like you talk about a guy who's going to lose 250 when you said 250 in a year it just that just sounds like it can't be healthy for you um it it actually i'm not saying ozempic is yeah it it actually it actually is not not um you really have to when you lose that much weight you have to focus on detox pathways

meaning you have the same number of fat cells now as you did the day you were born. It's a really hard concept for people to understand that when I came out of the womb, I have the same number of fat cells as I do now because fat doesn't increase or decrease in number they increase or decrease in size, right? I mean, the cells turn over,

but they increase or decrease in size. So your fat cells get larger, larger and larger. So if you've been, you know, heavy and you progress to obesity over a prolonged period of time, you know what's in those fat cells, pesticides, herbicides, insecticides, drugs you've done, chemicals, synthetics, histamines, all kinds of inflammatory factors. So when that cell starts to shrink again and turn into energy, it's dumping that shit

back into the bloodstream. So one of the things we're focusing on with him is, you know, he's traveling with a nurse now, so he's doing weekly IVs, something called glutathione. He does a topical glutathione spray on his skin to help his body, you know, with detox pathways. He's taking an activated charcoal for the gut so that you can actually. sop up toxins in the gut because you can't just dump all of those toxins right back into the bloodstream and then they have to go somewhere you think of when all that fat is coming off of the body where's it going it's going into the bloodstream the urine the stool so it can make you really

really sick so one of the things that i'm really focusing on with the clinical team and him is how do we get the toxins out of the body activated charcoal um glutathione regular ivs so you make sure that he's he's on a specific multivitamin. And in his case, you can use things like Tirzepatide, which is Manjaro, or somaglatide, which is Wagovi and Ozampic. The problem with those is that people are using them for vanity, right? And third of the weight that you lose is lean body mass. And so what happens is, you know, when people drop weight so quickly, they're dropping a lot of muscle and a lot of lean body mass. So you have to protect it with a peptide. You have to be doing weight-bearing exercise.

So you preserve the lean body mass and you lose the fat. I mean, when people say they want to lose weight, what they really mean is I want to lose fat. No one means I want to lose muscle. I want to lose ligaments, tendons, bones. I want to de-mineralize my bones. I just want to lose fat.

Right? That's what I want to lose. And so the problem with a lot of these drugs is if you just start injecting a Zempic, which is somaglotide, then you're not just losing fat. Right? And you're slowing gastric emptying,

you're shutting down the gut and so my personal preference is tears appetite and side-by-side clinical trials it actually did better than ozempic than somagletide at weight loss but you need to be taking peptides in my opinion um i can't get medical advice but i would be on a peptide i would be on something to stop up toxins in the gut like glutathione and activated charcoal and i would be weight training for sure i just had um dr gabriel lyon on she's like the muscle clean um she's like the muscle clean um she's you wrote a book called Forever Strong, talking about how muscle is our metabolic currency. If you want to live a long time, lift heavy weight.

And, you know, we talked about Ozympic and these weight loss drugs, you have to be doing weight-bearing exercise when you're on those. Or you'll just become skinny fat, right? Yeah. They also say once you get off it, your metabolism comes back up

and you gain that way right back. Well, that's not true if you're smart about how you titrate on and how you titrate off of these things, right? I mean, some of those were meant to be on permanent. right i don't i i mean that seems outlandish to me um that you would be on a permanent what's called the g lp1 and gdp inhibitor um you know because now you're shutting down the body's natural way of accomplishing those things but for people that have where weight is a health risk morbidly

obese type 2 diabetics these can be life saving for them you just got to you got to remember that you don't use them by themselves right help them detox weight bearing exercise peptides so they don't lose lean muscle mass, get them to a targeted weight, and then safely titrate off of those things. That's what my clinical team does. I don't think that we have anyone that I've seen our physicians put somebody on that stays on it permanently. There's a lot of people, yeah, I guess a lot of people online say it's like bad for you, but you're saying that in the proper way, dosed with other things. It's not bad. There's a much greater risk. If you're type two diabetic and you're morbidly obese, you have a greater risk of, you know, from morbid obesity and

diabetes than you do from the side effects of tears appetite or somagnotide, but you want to just not take them in, not take it in isolation. You can use those to have effective weight loss and you can titrate off of those. I mean, I've seen my clinical team do this hundreds and hundreds of times. So I, first-hand knowledge, you can do it safely. But people get on it and then they just stay on it. And then once they reach their targeted weight, they're still on it. Now the people are getting that ozimic face, they call it, what actually starts. you eat the fat out of your face and your face gets sunken your eyes start to look really sunken that's not coming back well i was going to say like i know someone who was on it and he started

to look like almost malnourished because it was like it was like dude you need to slow down on that yeah they lose weights so fast but they get too tiny yeah i mean it's gonna it's gonna eat fat everywhere what what nutrient deficiency do uh do most men have and like how do you think we should like kind of like um so most men are deficient in vitamin d3 um something called d-h-a which actually is what testosterone's made from. So if I just was magically able to go into your body and strip the D3 and strip the D-H-E-A out of your body, your testosterone would tank.

And you don't have a hormone issue. You have a raw material issue. You have a lack of raw materials. You put those two things back into the human body very often your testosterone goes right back into the normal range. So, you know, sadly what's happening with a lot of hormone clinics is they're putting younger and younger and younger and men straight on testosterone replacement.

Dude, it's so popular in fitness. Yeah. I mean, Steve's talked about it publicly, but, you know, Steve will do it. When I first met him, he was 20, how old was 22 years old? And he was on straight testosterone injections. Yeah. I was like, dude, what are you doing?

You're 22 years old. You haven't even had kids. I mean, you're, this is it like a mess up his kids? Well, it's not going to mess up his kid, but, I mean, it's going to make it hard. First of all, it's going to make it harder to have kids because it lowers sperm production. But you develop a dependency on it.

um i'm not anti that i'm on testosterone i'm 53 years old but if i was 22 i would do everything i could to naturally raise my level testosterone peptides dhia vitamin d3 um exercise hits cardio i would do things to naturally even ton cat ali you know natural things to try to raise my testosterone then become dependent on that hormone right then that's a lifelong dependency if you do it long enough now you can't can't get off and i don't i don't care what anybody says there's there's no better hormone than one the body makes on its own. We make bio-identical hormones from yams. You'll never convince me that a yam

can create as good of a hormone as the human body, right? Who's been like, besides Dana, because we've heard that story, but besides Dana, who's like another famous celebrity that's come out and like, that was your favorite to, like, work with?

Steve Harvey was awesome to work with. Yeah, you. You were great to work with. Russ Stephen A. Plug in your boy, dude. I love that. See, he's got your back, dude. He actually inspired a lot of people.

No, I know you did. And that's why I love working with people like you, to be totally honest with you, is because it gets the message out. People are like, oh, shit, if Kyle did it, I can do it. Oh, Dana did it, I can do it. So Steve Harvey was an absolute blast to work with.

He's a great human. Getting him into a coal plunge was one of the funniest, like three weeks of my life. You know, there's the conversations I would have with him. um uh stephen a smith was another one that's um uh you know just because i i've admired him on on espn and just his grit and his his uh authenticity he's hilarious and then really getting to know him he's another great human really getting to know him and and going on this health journey with him and every one of these guys dana steve harvey you know else was really great to work with was

steve aoki all the steves um um steve will do it was amazing too i mean there's some big ones coming next month that I can't disclose now, but they're, they're just as prominent as those folks. And I don't necessarily want to be known for working with like celebrities and A-listers and athletes. I use them because they have a voice and that helps get the message out, right? And the message needs to get out there. And I try to remind people that it wasn't expensive equipment that they bought, but it wasn't, you know, some rare Amazon route that, that, you know, only I manufacture and you have to go through me. I'm the magic. man it was none of those things it was the diet and lifestyle changes and and and routine changes

that they made that was 70% of the effect and then with in conjunction with my clinical team we just went in and dialed in their blood work and dialed in their genetics perfect i knew exactly what supplement to give them i supplemented them for deficiency and you want to talk about magic magic things happen in human beings when you give their body the raw material it needs to do its job most people that are listening to this podcast are not in the you know not in the most optimal condition because their body's missing raw materials they don't have a disease they don't have pathology there's nothing wrong with them their body is missing simple nutrients if you test for it you find it you put it back they thrive um and i used celebrities and athletes and a listers because

they just have a big voice and i and and you know you look at the struggle like dana white was on a CPAP machine he was on cardiovascular medication he was on you know blood thinners he was about to have surgery to widen his throat because he was having a hard time breathing um so bad that he would vomit at night all of which he's talked about publicly yeah um he couldn't he couldn't tie his own shoes okay he could not kneel down and tie his shoes i didn't know that i heard dan i said that i heard that yeah and and when i was going through his results i said to him i said Dana, I'm surprised that it's not painful for you to bend down in tire shoes. And he goes, what the fuck?

He took an open hand and he palmslapped the conference table in his office and all the shit like jumped up on it. It freaked me out. He's like, how the fuck did you know that? And I was like, well, because you're your triglyceride levels, your blood fat's so high. You know, if you kneel down and create that pressure, you know, that fat's going to pack into the end of your capillaries. and it's gonna burn like like your legs on fire he goes i've never shared that with anybody um and i was like do you do you wake up do you get do you actually throw up at night and he was like the fuck did you know that like because you get so acidic when you're sleeping because your

oxygen so low that eventually you get so acidic you get sick you're getting sick from the from the acidity in your blood then you wake up and you start breathing you return the alkaline state to your blood and you're you're going about your day again and he was like dude you have everything that you just described is so fucking accurate he's like what do i need to do and i said we need to go on this journey for 10 weeks you do what i ask you to do for 10 weeks and i promise you it'll change your life and that dude has flicked a switch like i've never seen and he's also he's been so loyal to me i would say there is nobody on the planet grant codon was very instrumental um and and his partner brandon dorson and helping me build the business and get the word out dana white was

the one that changed my life 100% um no question and that is the most loyal motherfucker on the planet oh 100% if he's with you he's with you yeah but he's not he's also not but but if he is yeah he will not be rattled i know you know you know and that's what i love to people how like yeah how loyal and how good of a fucking guy he is he just makes you want to be loyal back to him that guy's a good fucking friend fucking awesome i mean he's every single thing that he's ever said that he would do for me he's done everything even if he manifested something he's like in the next few months you know you're going to be on rogan you know he every everything that he's ever said and he's also been very productive of me which i like like you know so many people hit him and

ask him for access to me and he's like i'm not giving you access unless you're really going to be committed to this journey um so he yeah crazy instrumental but but steve was a lot of fun to work with um steve aoki was a lot of fun to work with because i i like those people that have life styles that when somebody from the outside in is looking at them you know Steve aoki won a Guinness Book of World's records for the most traveled artist do you know that I didn't know there was a fucking what was the record it wasn't a record it was a Guinness Book of World's record yeah yeah but how much oh the record was a um uh the record was the most traveled artists I think he did 365 shows um do you remember Cole or many but I think

he did 365 34 384 shows in a year so those DJs are doing sometimes two shows a day and different cities. Dude, yeah, he would say how he would do like a pool party in Miami and then use the time change to get to L.A. and then do a show at, you know, one, two, 30 in the morning in L.A. So you would actually just chase the sun, you know, and, or the opposite to chasing the sun. So you tell him, hey, you shouldn't do that many shows or you can do those many shows if you do this. Dude, the only reason why he's able to do that is because he takes care of his health. He doesn't drink. He doesn't do drugs. I mean, that guy is on his game diet-wise. You know, he's on his game with his hydration he he prioritizes sleep i mean his his house is a giant biohacking lab too um

i tried to get out of doing a 34 degree pole cold plunge at his house the other day and uh he's like oh you don't want to get in there i was like not a 34 degrees and then he popped on an instagram live and he's like well there's 20 000 people on here i'm like oh you motherfucker so i got right in there dude i'm like so so we got in the cold plunge and we did the sauna and um you know jumped around in his that foam room that he's got but you know he acts like a little kid but behind the scenes you know because he's got that youthful energy but behind the scenes you know he's really conscious of his health man he supplements every day you know we look look at his blood blood work every few months we look at his genes we you know we tweak his supplements he's got data on his body he knows exactly where

he stands as sugar start getting out of control he dials it back in if his if his hormones get off we start to dial those back in and dude he's crushing it man you see the energy he puts out on the thing it's insane the DJ life is fucking and the DJ life is the toughest dude I mean yeah that's crazy talk about a circadian rhythm

disorder I mean like you're you're in London you're in Dubai you're in in fact the day that the last time I saw him he was actually leaving that day and going nonstop to Dubai to do somebody's private party so you're talking about time zones food air planes hotels just every

thing jacked up. Yeah, and he just burns. Do you have cheap meals or no? I do. I'm not that guy that goes to my, you know, five-year-old niece's birthday party and is like, I'm not going to have a piece of cake. I'm not the one that doesn't once in a while go out and have a tequila.

I think when you put too many restrictions on yourself, you end up perverting. Something perverts, right? You just can't be that discipline. Not everybody has Brian Johnson's discipline, although I believe in what he's doing. I just don't think it's practical for humanity. It's what we do 80% of the time that matters.

right optimal health is about the presence um it's about the absence of the good not the presence of the bad so in other words if you're missing the foundation the bad is really going to hurt you the occasional drinking the sweets need a base the bender it's going to it's going to really take a toll the lack of sleep but if you're doing the foundational things you're eating clean food you're you know you're drinking clean water you're getting decent sleep on your exercise exercising. You're so much more resilient. There's a process in the human body called hormesis where you stress it and it strengthens. Which is again why I say aging is the aggressive pursuit of comfort because we just stopped thinking about challenging ourselves as a way to

fight aging and and be in a better state of optimal health. Why did you want to launch the ultimate human podcast? Because I wanted to control the messaging. You know, the ultimate human is about a lot about the ultimate human is about giving without the expectation of receipt. I really, really truly do believe that the information does not belong to me. I really believe that it belongs to mankind. I believe it belongs to humanity. And I wanted to control the messaging. I bought my podcast when I first launched and I ended up buying it back from a group that I partnered with

because, you know, I was starting to get ad reads for things. I won't name the products, but they would have super high amounts of food dyes and caffeine and cyanacobalm and folic acid and corn syrup and shit like that. And I was like, you know, I was telling my partners at the time, I'm not reading this ad. And they're like, you signed a deal, you sign a contract, you've got to read the ad. And I was like, they're like, well, it's not an implied endorsement. I go, well, if I say it, it's like I'm endorsing it. So send them their money back.

I'm not reading this ad. And I would get stuff for all these junk vitamins. and all these junk products and CBD gummies. And I'm like, I didn't get to the top of the mountain just to become a prostitute. You know, so I said, I'm not reading this. You know, we're kind of at a full stop. And I ended up being able to buy the podcast back

and so I can control the messaging. I never endorse things that I don't use in my daily life that I don't have firsthand knowledge of. I test the absolute shit out of everything. A lot of manufacturers really don't like me because they'll send, they'll be advertising this EMF mitigation device. There's one sitting on the table over there. And it's $5,000.

And they're like, yeah, we want you to promote this and we'll give you X, Y, Z. So I say, send the device to me. And then I take EMF meters and, you know, electromagnetic measuring equipment. And I start measuring whether or not it's mitigating the field. It's not doing anything. They got red light beds that are $100,000. And I light meter tested them. They didn't even have the wavelengths, the manufacturer claimed.

You know, their air filters saying, oh, we filter things down to 0.1 micron. then I tested and it doesn't even filter down to 10 microns. Just like I'm incessant about testing things and I wanted to control the message. So I started the ultimate human as a way to really reach the masses to kind of get the message out there. Yeah, it's cool to hear a bunch of people's stories.

Yeah, super cool. I know it's kind of situational, but like if people stick to whatever you tell them to do, like how much can you increase someone's lifespan? on average seven years so i can end seven years to not just to their lifespan but to their health span and when i say that people again you know here comes to i can see the comments coming on on instagram right now but um i say that because i did that for 22 years so i have data i know what it means when you fix nutrient deficiencies like vitamin d3 in the body i know what it means to

you when you control your blood sugar over a prolonged period of time i know what it means when you control your triglycerides for a prolonged period of time i know what it means when you control your triglycerides for a prolonged period of time. I know what it means when you're not carrying excess body weight, when you're not anemic, when your hormones are in the optimal range. These actually impact your lifespan. That is a material fact. And for decades, there were insurance companies that would take hundreds of millions of dollars in risk on those facts. So they are facts. And so yes, if you make a, if you get data on your body and you make a few changes, you can add seven years to your health span, not just your lifespan that's pretty fucking cool yeah what did you say that seven years a long time

i mean dana's we almost tripled what were you saying it was that really affect your life's fan i didn't i didn't hear um hormone imbalance nutrient deficiencies and blood sugar control those are the three big things affecting life expectancy so what's like the first thing someone can go do to figure out what they're deficient in and like um so you can get um so the one thing i think every human being needs to do once in your lifetime that you guys have all done is that gene test right you do it once in your life you take it cheeks while you put a cheek swab in you swab your cheek you send it to the lab um you can do it through me you do not have to do it through me there's tons of great genetic testing companies that are out there um i look at five specific genes because if you get

if you look at your entire genetic report like i could see you have dark skin dark hair you have detached your lobes you can't do anything with that data what you want to look at is what can my body convert into the usable form in other words what can it use and what can it not use and then you supplement for that deficiency that genetic test you do once in your life you'll never guess again on what you need to supplement with you will stop supplementing for the sake of supplementing and you will supplement for deficiency that's when the magic happens in the human body it's a super basic concept you know i always talk about when i was when i was in grad school school. I used to have to take all these. I was getting my, I was getting my second degree in biology, my second one in human biology. And I had to take all these freaking plant botany courses. You had to study plants, which I hated, but you have to do it. But what stood out to me was it doesn't matter what goes wrong in a plant, the leaf, the root stem of a plant. If you call it true botanist, a true arborist out to your house, and let's say you got leaves rotten in the top of your palm tree,

they won't touch the leaf of the palm tree. They will court us the soil. And they'll go, oh, you know what? There's no nitrogen in this soil. And then they'll add nitrogen to the soil and the leaf will heal, right? But this human beings are no different, right? You have to find out what you're deficient in, which you can test for with a gene test. Once you find that deficiency, you supplement for that deficiency. It's like, bang, holy shit, man.

I thought I was affected by anxiety. You didn't have anxiety. You had poor catacolamine regulation because your body was deficient in methylfolate or B vitamins. And you put those into your body and your anxiety is gone. So now that's one anchor up off the ground. And then you're like, man, I sleep like shit. Well, you don't have a sleep disorder. You know, you have a lack of magnesium, lack of thionine.

You know, you might even lack, that's the denisome with thionine. So you put those raw materials back in the human body. Now all of a sudden the mind quides and you start to sleep better. And then you're like, man, I'm bloated like a puffer fish. You know, I'm not fat, but you're retaining water because your hormones are out of balance. You know, I don't have the energy that I had a few years ago. You don't have energy because you don't have enough oxygen in your blood because your hormones are off. And if as soon as you put certain raw materials, like simple vitamins, minerals, amino acids back into the human body, this is when boom, you actually, you know, people really thrive, right? The complexity is in the simplicity of, of what to do a lot of times.

How far do you think like modern medicine is going to go, like in the next like 20, 30 years? Like, are we going to be able to like achieve like? Well, the best thing to happen to modern medicine, in my opinion, is AI because AI is now taking such a voluminousy. amounts of data and parsing the data so you can actually make real decisions. So in other words, do people that have high cholesterol really need a statin? Well, it'll look at 21 million articles. It'll look at voluminous amounts of data

and it'll come back and actually fight some of the false trends that we've been led to believe. You know, modern medicine, I say, is a catch-all. Want you to believe that you have disease or pathology. because if I can get you to subscribe to the fact that you have a disease, I can get you to subscribe to a lifetime medication. And by the time you're 60 years old, most people are on five to seven prescription medications.

You'll never convince me that at 60 years old, we need five chemicals, synthetics, or pharmaceuticals to be average. That's complete nonsense. If you have heart disease, you're not missing a beta blocker. If you have ADHD, you're not deficient in Adderall. If you have high cholesterol, you're not missing a statin. right so the answer is not chemical synthetics and pharmaceuticals the answer is put nutrients back in the human body and let us do its job let's just get out of the way

of what god gave us yeah you know i mean yeah um i always look at that as such a negative what's that just like just like does someone really need to be prescribed at all is there not any other thing they can do because it's so negative for people it is i mean you know talked about that on rogan a little bit right yeah i talked about on rogan a little bit like if you know if your mind's racing okay you have two choices you're you You can quiet the mind by using things like methyl folate, complex of B vitamins, B12. You can quiet the mind, or you can let the mind race, and you can pump infetamines into the body to race the central nervous system to match the pace of the mind, which is what Adderall,

viands, riddle in, that's what those are. Those are infetamines, basically legal speed, right? So why speed up a system that's not broken to match a system that's broken? Why not just fix the system that's broken? why not just learn to quiet the mind right and you quiet the mind by putting raw materials into breakdowns fucking crazy yeah i hate that shit and the other thing too is like i had friends who got addicted in college like xanax was just like oh yeah popular and it just literally how did zanx become popular because that's like sleeping sound like rappers and shit yeah like they

were all talking about it and then you're in college and you take you know but like they call it getting barred out i've got i've got tape barred out um so barred out. That's what I said. I don't know, but. But like, like, I've taken Xanax before and I'm like, said it like, how does some,

would somebody get addicted to this? I mean, I feel like a zombie. But, but like, if you drink on it, do you feel good? Like,

what was the deal there? I've never fucked to Xanax, but. I mean, years ago, I just, on a flight, like a long flight before.

Oh, I could see that, but I'm just saying, like, how is somebody getting barred out every day or like nibbling on that every day. That's my knowing to me. I like how I feel after,

after a good workout in a cold lunch in the steam room I feel like I mean I'm out of my mind and drive my wife crazy if you were to pick one thing and you're

I love how he just comes in out of nowhere dude took a piss he's wide awake no so the different things that you have in there I don't know what to call I'm sorry if you were to pick one

what would you go with if I could only use one thing cold punch what's second so top three so top three would be the PEMF Matt that Matt that

lay on it nice it goes in your bed and it runs a low gouse current through the body makes you alkaline um so that because you just sleep on it you hit a button you go to sleep um it helps you get into a deep sleep i i love that you wake up alkaline every day the second one we i mean of course the uh the coal plunges in there and i also use a red light bed um you can get the same thing from morning sunlight outside i just want to say that you don't need to spend the money on a red light bed or red light panels they're expensive but for me those are my three go to um modalities and then after that i would say like the hypermax oxygen that you breathe on the treadmill do you tend to like the outside more than the than the bed

sometimes i love that outside i think that's the best thing you can yeah dude it's i mean just take your shoes off and go for a walk dude it's insane how good that makes you feel i mean we stony would say the ground's too hot i've always he's gonna do it every day now no but i've always said this like you can just tell being in miami people are so much fucking happier here yeah people are happy there's energy yeah you go to less like L.A. where there's less heat sun or just Colorado where I'm from and people aren't the same yeah I mean I went to grad school in Chicago I was in Chicago for six years I absolutely learned to believe in seasonal effective disorder up there I thought that was a bunch of nonsense dude you don't see the month's a real thing like seasonal depression oh god yeah

seasonal depression is a very real thing when you don't see the sun for four months you just want to stay inside and eat pizza yeah right you feel miserable you could actually feel the energy and If you're from Chicago, you know exactly what I'm talking about. You could feel the energy in the entire city shift on that first day, that spring day, right? When, like, the sunshine, it was actually warm and people could actually walk outside and it was bright sun coming in the windows. And I worked at the board of trade. We would throw all the windows up in the board of trade and let the air in, like, the whole mood of the city just shifted. Like, you know, in the middle of winter, people are pissed off.

What can they do? Like just red light bed, I guess is an option. Red light bed is an option. plunge is an option breath work is an option actually still getting even though it's gray in the direction of the sun there are still sun rays making it through that that mistiness right so try to keep your you know don't pull your shades down get get natural sunlight into into your environment and fucking travel i mean get out of there a couple of times a month and get down to florida get down to somewhere that's warming get in some real sunlight and get your feet touch in the

earth you know that's why people come to the beach it feels so amazing yeah you know I mean, it's just, so I definitely learned to believe in seasonal affective disorder. And if you look at, you look at the incidence of, you know, cardiovascular events, even even homicides, they spike in the winters, right, and they spike during those seasons. How much pressure is Big Pharma like putting on

what you guys are doing and the stuff you're prescribing? I get a lot of it. So I always say, dude, if I ever go missing, I want you guys to open an investigation. If you ever hear like, oh shit, he hung his self on a bed sheet, you know, no, I didn't do that. I never jumping off my balcony, right? But, uh, but, uh, yeah, way too positive. Yeah, yeah, way too positive.

Be like, dude, I know he didn't jump off his balcony. So you guys opened the investigation. But, um, but, uh, you know, I, I did a, um, podcast with a biologic dentist the other, the other day, um, about a week and a half ago, um, Dr. Gandhi. And this guy is, is, is, one of the greatest oral surgeons in a country, in my opinion. And he talks about, like, how root canals and how the teeth are connected to the rest of your body.

Bacteria that they find in the teeth are the same ones they find in cardiovascular disease. And he did some work on me, and I had them on the podcast. And then, of course, here comes the fact checkers, right? So if you go on my Instagram, it's blocked out, and it says, what do they put over at false story or something? Click here to find out why. And then there's a fact checker.

They never say that the fact checker is, but they say you know teeth are not connected to other pathologies in the body that's completely false um you know same thing happened to me when i post you know information about seed oils i'll get fact check and it says um seed oils are not bad for human beings um you know according to fact check or seed oils are not bad for human beings well um if you take a seed oil like a canola plant and you stick it in a commercial press and it comes out gummy and then you de gum it with hexane which is a neurotoxin And then you heat that oil to 405 degrees and turn it rancid. And then you deodorize it with sodium hydroxide, which is a carcinogen.

And then you bottle it and put it on the shelf. You're never going to convince me that that's good. So I do get a lot of fact checkers that come and say, you know, what you're saying is false or what it doesn't slow me down. What's your goal? What do you see like with 10x and ultimate human, what you guys are all doing? Like where do you see it? And what's your goal? in like, I don't know, five years, 10 years with it all?

My goal is to build the most trusted source in the world for chemical free living, right? To become the Amazon, the Google of chemical free living. Like when people want to know, how do I live a chemical free lifestyle? What water should I be drinking? How should I wash my clothes? How should I wash my dishes? What should I put on my skin? You know, how can I just get back to the basics?

Where should I get my food from? How can I get grass-fed meats, pasture-raised eggs, you know, free-range chickens? You know, how can I live a chemical-free lifestyle? What sheets do I sleep on? You know, I want to eventually be the repository for that information. And I want to have tested it and validated it and verified it so that people that want to go on this journey can take it as far as they want to go. So eventually, I see 10x health as being, you know, the greatest company in the world for genetic testing, for supplementation, for blood work.

I see ultimate human getting the message out about how to live a chemical-free lifestyle and being a trusted source for people to say, you know, what other things can I be doing in my life to be more optimal? It's kind of where I see it going. It's awesome. Who's your pick for the milk boys challenge? Who do you think can make the biggest transfer? Well, here's the thing, man.

See, you could throw on some lean muscle and look like a beast. I think it's Salim. Yeah, see. I'm feeling good right now. Because you got that, you got that leanness. We'll talk off camera. I'll get you on some peptides and we'll throw some nice heavy lean muscle on you. But I think you got a shot, you got a shot too.

You have to say this now or what? No, no, I'm saying you got a shot. It's like, you know, dude, you can still win. No, I think, I think, you know, you got a little bit of the, you know, the bloat. You could just like lose the bloat and throw the muscle on. but Kyle I think it's going to be hard for you to close the gap I know it is going to be hard but a hundred grand I mean he hasn't met cousin shit actually what one of you guys should really do is offer me like 50 off camera

and I'll only work with one of you and we'll just go have see someone yeah that's the other thing I want I'm bringing up because there's no like there's no rules I think there should have been a more fair playing ground like Kyle has access to you Gabe has access to whatever you also gave him yeah yeah but right now Colin Gabe I'll I'll work with you guys too I mean, let's do this. I mean, but Gabe too, dude, Gabe could actually bring in a strong first.

He could, because he's looking fucking good, man, right? But he had, what, 50,000 reasons to look good? Would he, what, did Dana stroke him? How much have you made 30? 30 grand, damn. But how much do you have to lose now? Is he paying you again? Oh, he is?

He's got, dude, Dana has paid. He did the same thing with Stephen A. Smith. I know three or four people. have another client right now that Dana's offered money to like he's great for me because he pays my clients to basically work with me and achieve their goals it's like it's the best of all worlds they make money and he forces them to work with me so but I'm pumped to see how this challenge comes out who's going to like is the fans that are going to vote okay so it'll be March 9th UFC Miami March 9th oh dude that'll be awesome we're going to go to you guys

You might have to come. Maybe, maybe, no, I'll be there for sure. Yeah, yeah. 100%. Yeah. Can I be one of the judges? Yeah. I can just wait.

I mean, it only be one, one thing, so. Yeah. Yeah. But if anyone wants to go housing with you right now, I'll just tell you right now. We'll talk in the son out. Well, you and Gabe, yeah. All right. This is awesome way to do.

Awesome. This is great, man. I mean, it's long overdue. I hope your audience got value out of it. I learned a lot. I love chopping up. Like you said, we had to ask some DJing questions. It's the full send podcast.

Yeah, yeah. It's not Joe Rogan. It's the first time I've had sultures in the background, dude. But I love you guys. I love your mission, love everything you're doing, man. You're great humans. It's great to become friends with all you guys. Appreciate you.

Yeah. We'll put the ultimate human podcast link in the description. Make sure you guys go, subscribe to that. Episodes are amazing. So, appreciate you, bro. Rock on. Thank you, bro. You got it.

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