FULL SEND PODCAST - Jake Paul x Nelk Boys | Ep. 130

Episode Date: August 5, 2024

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I'm actually saying this our golf that golf channel this guy must be pretty cheap right now he's he's working for eyeballs right now no we're not I don't like the eyeballs I don't give two fucks about eyeballs. I don't. I don't give a fuck what eyeballs. No, I care about What are you doing this for them? The passion of the game? Your friend Kyle? I just really, Let's be real. I'll tell you when I first met him. The only thing he said to me, he's like, listen, Kyle, I love you. I love hanging out with you, but I want one thing. Your audience. Of course, bro. I'll tell you what, well, that's changed. You know, obviously, uh, what you've become a good friend or what's, no, what's changed here? I think that's

amazing is this. I think we can all agree is that when we do the golf shit together. It's so much fun. Well, I mean, no, whatever. It's so much fun. We got Jake Paul this week. We want to do a lot more pods Like the one we did with Mike, us, Nick Don't be pointing me We're on the six of six Our turn is over We won't be on the pod

We're up for renegotiation We're up for renegotiation You couldn't have had a better You could not have had a better deal If we come back You had last time So I'm not sure how to make that happen The last deals are

I'm actually curious There's no way to pay Bob Like even with the golf shit I'm like Damn you know what Like I'd love to find a path To for Bob to financially benefit off this But how does one

Find a path To paying Bob Mennery when nothing is ever enough. Well, here's a deal. I think you keep milking him for everything. That's the only, if he doesn't work for free, it's not enough. I think you're in a good position. I think that what we showed today is this is, you know, we obviously are very, very big fans of what you guys do.

We enjoy our company. This is episode 6 of 6. You know, I'm excited to see what the future holds here. You know, obviously the golf is the thing. We're going to be having day on. I want to take over your golf channel. You're amazing on the golf log. Yeah.

I love playing golf. We play today so fucking good. And we actually, think about this. No, I don't even get invited to those anymore. It's so crazy. Because you don't show up. I got to start doing more shit like you. Just hey.

Me and Bob were talking with this. Steinie's the guy that like you have to ask him not to do something to make him want to come. Like if I'm like, if I'm like Stiney, want to stay at my house, he's like, nah, like I want to get my own hotel. Then when you like don't invite him, he's like, what the fuck? Like, why didn't you invite me to, why didn't you let me stay at your career, bro? That is 100%. Guys, it's episode 6 and 6. I don't give a fuck.

Kyle is tight, which makes him a great CEO. Yeah, no, I'm not going to lie. I just had dinner with Bob. Bob, I mean, I'm not tight at all. No, wait, Bob. Very tight, but it's okay. Bob, I look for it. We were just at dinner and he was complaining.

He's like, I got us on this million dollar golf course. Not complete. I wouldn't tip the caddies. That's his words. Once again, don't want to tip the caties. I'm sorry. If you're wearing my Belantiaga hoodie too, I have no clothes. I want to say this, though.

I want to say that I believe that I could take blindfolded your full sin golf channel with Salim and make it the biggest golf channel in the world. I think that we just got a residency. We just won. Kyle and I played a huge math. today. We want 20k off Coos. That's what I heard. He's coming in right now to wire you the money on the spot. Which is crazy because

I would have loved to be there. A couple weeks ago, we saw Coos together. We asked you. You said what's going on? I said, Paulson. We didn't say we're playing with Cues. I didn't know. Oh, you can't just come out with the boys. You can't just come out to play with the boys. Something about this guy working for free. It turns out of somebody different. He won't come golfing with the boys. He needs an NBA player.

So basically what we did on the... Well, let's spice it up. Coming off the Bachelor video, this guy's fucking... I was on, I was on the flight here. here in a red eye only flat i could get to get here i'll do whatever it takes to get to this podcast as a good employee uh that was another thing too we're on a call on stein he's like bro we got to be like grinding more and shit and then i call him like 30 minutes later i'm like all right jake paul's in he's like uh tomorrow yeah well there's there's he'll be on the like hey listen i got on the flight but it's crazy like oh wow you got in the flight kid

don't forget what you came all i can think about in the flight i was like tossing and turning i'm like yo spob was suing this guy six months ago like should i be friends with him should i be friends with, like, who do I side with? Choose your sides wide. Because I don't get it. It's like, choose your side wide. It's like,

please stay at my home, come over for Thanksgiving, and I don't know, like, now my mind's fucked because I don't know who to trust, what's going on. Pay me my fucking money. That's all I can do.

Yeah, no shit. Pay me my fucking money, Kyle. Yo, Bob's taste was so red in that video, bro. You're lucky, by the way, you're lucky, Mr. White, call me that day. I'm not going to get into that.

We're done. This is episode 6 of 6. This is coming to closure, all right? We're not getting back in this. Mr. White, personally, people who are the phone said, Bob, listen, I know you have them against the ropes. This is bad. It's going to be bad. We're doing this little rinky-ding drink called muggy bombs, you know, whatever it is.

So I need you to, I can't partner with them while you're suing them. So please drop the suit. And I said, Jesus, I said, Mr. White, I have millions and millions. They owe me. What do I do? And Dana said, you need to drop this, but I'll ask you nicely. And I said, Mr. White, I will comply. And that's why we drop the lawsuit.

Very accurate. But I know, we have a little. Thanks for being a good guy. For instance, you look at this golf channel. you got Saleem with like some girl kid named Chaffee or something on there you got some like you know I love Freezer Chops

What happened to your golf channel you're going to start Why don't you just start one yourself? No no no we're just gonna come in hell We can't we don't want to do that We don't put the we're gonna we're just run shit Mia You wanna hop on here for a sec? No?

Who's this? I sat down for dinner Me and Bob were gonna have dinner And then Mia came out of the light from an angel And I was like yo what are you doing here? She's like I know Bob and I was like Oh yeah me and me go way back home Wait so who invited you to do?

dinner. Bob did you, wait, when did you, you got to Miami when? Did you see, FBI here, guys? Oh, you said, Steinie knew her, though, once you walked down. Yeah. Oh, no, that's family with me. Don't worry about that. Our family over here.

Okay. I don't know as a family affair. That was a quick, uh, quick fly out from L.A. We were on the same flight, me and her actually. No way. Yes. No way. Yeah.

Meas's been a long-term friend for a while and, uh, obviously, uh, great person. Overall, that's what we do, Steinmey with good people. So Bob just was like, hey, come out to Miami or. Bob's just a sweet he was like hey like you should hang out right let's yeah let's do golf yeah okay cool yeah you play golf yeah yeah I've been learning so that's why he reached out to me he's like oh yeah they get on the full send golf method get on the full send golf method get on the full send golf method I like that maybe pop on the full send podcast too you don't say shit maybe pop on the full sun podcast I like that I like she she's got some good funny stuff uh like content that you kind of do

like a little like roll out of bed with women and stuff whatever the fuck you do what is up with your reels by the way the ones I do big views I think you're finally accepting you, like, you're, I think you're doing a better job of, like, knowing your role. Bob, I see, I'm not going to lie. I love you, obviously. Dude, I'll be honest. But your shit's, your shit sucks, bro. I don't give a fuck.

That's a difference. I don't. Like, I went from, you do though. I don't, I don't. You feed posted a wrestling match with Saleem because Salim was talking. And that was one of your biggest videos. You feed posted it three times. Well, first of all.

Bob cares about social media more than. I know, and he's like, no, but he just, I love to communicate with my people. So I just like to just talk. No, you love numbers. Yeah, but you throw shade and it's like, dude, I'm actually doing pretty well. I was actually just, you know, I'm not throwing shade. I'm saying that I was asking. I used to be your assistant and I became your father.

So it's just like, oh, yeah, you're my dad. My kid, I love you. You come, you stay in my house, whatever you want. I got your back. Thank you. Your sister, by the way, and I've been talking. She's probably looking out for like that, make a wish kid. You have no chance with Rachel.

No, dude, she honestly, she thinks, well, we all know that doctors and scientists are still looking for what to diagnose you with and you have something seriously loose in there. But she has some empathy for you and we're always here for you as a family. I know Kyle's here for you too. I'm sure Mia flew out. Anyways, Jake Paul's coming in today. It's going to be a really great interview.

You know, it's kind of a... I hate the fact that this podcast used to be something great. And now, right now it is crumbling in front of my eyes. And we are on episode six of six. Rob, you were, you literally were involved in working hard for one month, bro. A month and a half. And then you went into... How many months...

I'm not paid enough. Fuck you. You guys are fucking... me, I do all the work. I don't want Judge Nagel flying in the room again. No, that's the truth. That was the greatest of me and Kyle are mediation. You put in two months of hard work and you definitely help this podcast get off the ground,

but then you went fucking typical Bob roller coaster. No, he put longer than two months, but we'll go four months. But then he just just tapped out, yeah. Yeah, you tapped out to you. You owe me this. Yeah. I'm gone. The past is the past.

All we can do is look forward. Yeah, the best thing you've ever said. There we are, yes. And we're all back together, man. Here we are. Whatever it is. Mia, you're good, honestly. Thank you.

Thank you. Yo, yo. What up? What up? That's all your success. Did you cancel my package or what? Your AI one, we made it. Oh.

But it's really hard to make them, and it costs a lot of money. So, like, we made, like, 15 of them. I know fucking Jesse got one, too. But I don't think he got an AI one. Oh, he didn't? Oh, shit. How do you... We got the AI one for you?

How do you decide who gets a AI? how did you guys how did you guys do that um so basically it was a long process but me and me and brandon over here did it and it was like first writing the scripts and then we just had a company and he recorded like all of them with like his mouth and voice and then the company had to just like put their looks on top of it and then change the voice that's crazy but it took it took quite some time How long you've been plotting on the W launch? Man, when did you come up with the idea to do it? So basically, this was like an idea from four years ago.

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vi porter to learn more we started to put it into motion but i've been wanting to do this because four years ago i went to the CVS and i was like how the fuck does ax and old spice still have 16 feet of shelf space there's no other options i don't want to wear acts i don't want to wear old spice and none of these other brands speak to me i believe i can make a better product something that represents something and something that's like cool new and fun and that's really where like w and just the idea of w in the chat winning a whole brand around that so it's been it's been going really really well i was 10 years ago had the most lit commercials of all time axe was sauce 10 years ago though exactly like sauce and great six yeah exactly exactly

And then you grow out of it. In gym class? It's going crazy. In middle school, if you were wearing that, you were set. But what's crazy is they still do like $2 billion a year just straight up. And it's like... Because there's not many other companies that I know of that are like mainstream in that space, right? No, exactly. And that's why it just comes down to like a content thing, making it fun.

I mean, same shit with Happy Dad, everything you guys are doing. How do you know what it's doing well, though? How do you like, no? Walmart basically indicates, like, they're super happy. They're like, this is the best brand launch we've ever. ever been a part of and the numbers so we did the biggest launch in walmart history for this category so just pacing against other competition like other celebrity brands in the space and just the sales data we'll do 50 million dollars this year which for year one is absurd like nobody does does those

numbers with your name attached any products going to do well so it was like a space that was like open that not a lot of people were touching it's wide open it's wide open because like axes strategy Like, no offense, but they're like, you know, like doing stupid-ass TikTok ad. Same thing with Old Spice. Like, what is it Old Spice? What is it Axe anymore? And we're just like differentiated, bringing on, you know, Sean O'Malley, Ruby Rose, like, more names. You should bring on Menry.

You should do a Menary's hotel room. He's cheap right now. A Menry scent? He's making a comeback. You get in for cheap. I can tell you right now. We should do a menary cent. Wait, so why does it take, why does it take four years to develop the product get launched?

No, so I had the idea of four years ago. And I knew I wanted to do it, but I put it into the works two years ago. But I self-funded it, hired the whole team, and did all of that. So that's where it, like, took some time. But then also product testing. Yeah, tell us about that. Getting the formula, right? So we were vitamin-infused.

Like, this is actually mood-boosting technology. So, like, scientifically, this boost your seroton levels. It smells good. I'll give you that. Thanks, great. Thank you. And then for the deodorant, making sure it worked really well, but taking out as many, as the as many of the crazy chemicals is sprayed on the cock there is it cock safe to spray

yeah yeah yeah it's put it everywhere so how does is it is there immediate like the competition's already like you w's out there like his axe and old spice competitive already yeah i can't i mean i can't say who but people behind the scenes are like pissed off and like we're already eating their lunch basically and there's some like drama already but it's like yo you guys You guys have been running the game for 30 years, like, chill out. Like, it's not that serious. So how do you get, like, super rich off that? Like, what's the exit strategy?

Yeah, I mean, we'll see. And you can't lie if just be completely honest on like, you know, like, not being a dick. I'm saying, I was going to lie. I was going to lie. I was going to lie. What do you mean? Don't lie. I'm saying, I'm saying they're like, shoot a straight.

I don't know how this. It's been a while since he's not. I don't think he's going to lie, but, yeah. Like, what's the exit strategy on that? Well, I think first and foremost, like, we're just getting started and we want to take over the whole bathroom so we have so many other skews coming out hair clay hair gel shampoo conditioner face wash the whole nine yards launching launching soon here but i love this brand this is my baby i came up with the name i came up with everything to do with this the formulation is the

sense and i want to build a long lasting company and yeah but how long does that take to get like a big payday for people to know so take you're ready to exit in a month focused on the money immediately He just, this guy would, this guy would, he's ready to exit in a month. I'm curious. I like yourself, when you build a product, Happy Dad. I'm curious, like, people are curious about that. So when do you get, like, a big jack? How do you, how do you pick the people, like, you have Ruby and Sean?

Yeah. How do you assemble the perfect team to market it? It's super interesting, but I compared it to, like, creating Team 10, which was, like, differentiated personalities who can do different shit, but they're all the best in the world at what they do. So, like, Logan is a part of it. he's wb shan's mima ruby is like the rap industry and just like looking like a model online and then there's other names that we're announcing but my girlfriend utah world champion speed skater i'm obviously boxing so just like growing the whole dream team together and uh and yeah we have

i think i can say we have livy done so she's a part of it now and she's obviously sick in gymnastics MLB, all that shit. So really just creating that dreamtie. And also people who really saw the vision. Like I, we talked to a lot of people who weren't as passionate or don't really get the business side of things. But all of these other people like fell in love with it, saw the vision that I had and really just wanted to grind and hustle. It's more than just like, you know, posting a certain amount of Instagram. photos a year it's like no they're actually a part of the whole it's really easy for you to like

mark it in the boxing fights too and shit that commercial that you guys did before the the fight was fucking absurd thank you man you guys did you guys like pre-film that yeah it was pre-filmed that was jokes but but that's the what we're trying to bring to the table is like differentiated shit like that and that's kind of where acts like lost their touch you know they don't really like do any funny different shit like that anymore and we're like Okay, we have a 30 second commercial slot. We're not just going to do some standard shit here. Let's do something where we can, like, trick the audience and they'll, you know, the joke will be on them.

So, Axe the people you got to take down. You got to take them down. Yeah, I mean, it's not really about taking them down. Like, I think, you know, we have a better product and a better mission, a better name, like everything. But I was a fan of Axe. It's just like old and outdated. I genuinely wanted to offer better products. which ours is like no parabins, no artificial dyes, no harsh shulphates.

And so what you're putting on your body actually matters. And that's really what we wanted to bring to the table. Yeah, I think, too, it's a completely new wave of marketing. Like, Axe, you'd see it on TV. No, like, you wouldn't know who the actors were or nothing, and now you have powerful influencers. So it's a new wave of pushing the product where Axe can't compete. Yeah.

Old Spice has athletes, but it's like, it's different. It's, they're a giant yacht ran by 60, year olds who are out of touch you know and who could who could make more money like him exiting happy dad are you exiting this like who could make more who's set to make more money because when he happy dad's a monster whatever you attach yourself to as a monster so i'm just curious who's going to make more money man i have no idea we're probably right in this we're probably right in the same ballpark yeah exactly like i just don't know the but when you play in these ballparks these can be multi-billion dollar conglomerates i mean you look at prime sitting at five billion dollars in value right now

but it could be even bigger you never know i mean you look at there there's so much market share to take between acts old spice and degree which are like the biggest three in the category they're doing six billion dollars a year so if you can get to those numbers all of a sudden it's a you know 10 15 billion dollar what was like on the business aspect like what was the decision to just go with walmart as opposed to like not just with walmart yeah i think um they really saw the vision the meeting with them went like super super great and their audience is the same as mine it's like almost directly core correlated like middle of america you know blue collar fighting male and i know they're trying to get they're smart the people that are working there

because we're we're in uh walmart too i think we're in 3 000 and they're really trying like they understand like what what we're trying to do as well exactly they what's your goal to get like bought out by somebody? Is that what it is? These companies just come in and buy you out? I mean, maybe one day, but I think it's just like, you know, building it. And I don't think that's going to happen for a very long time. How long ago did you launch this? Yeah, but these are questions people I think have. The average person is not used to be a Jake Paul. There's a process that he's trying to teach you where you got to grow something before you sell it. Thanks. Yeah. I think when I think if we ever sold it, we probably like wouldn't even

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We love Manscaped. Let's get back on the pod. Are you, Bob, are you back on the pod? We're just fucking around. This is his last episode. This is six of six. So we chose, we chose a little bit. So you're on like a short-term contract. I mean, look at Kyle wants to fucking, Jake, Jake, Jake, if Kyle wants to bring this thing back to where it was in a good fucking place like it was before,

when we were actually banging episode of episode. How many pods did you try to launch in between? It doesn't matter when you launched. As a team, we were great. We'll figure. it out, don't worry. We're all good. Don't sit back and relax. So Mike Perry,

you pick the shit up. I like Derek a lot. He was very respect. No, but I like him, though. He's a good kid. He's actually... No, I love Derek, but it's like, you guys just are turned up, like, off the confidence, which I respect. I mean, yeah, I mean, we're good. I know the last pod got a little crazy, right? Which I mean...

No, yeah, our last pod, like boxing in the fucking... Oh, yeah, bro, what the fuck? I feel like I deserve a little bit more respect for that. No, you do. But I, I think I told you that. No. I said that was gangster. Okay. No, that was sick as you want to say it now. No, you, you

I respect anyone who actually will fight and you did it on the spot. Why didn't he accept your money offer though, Jake? You offer money to come fight it? I do think it's weird that you wouldn't just do it again for a bunch of money, but hey, that's not, I'm not your manager. I feel like it was like a bend there done that

like on sites a little bit like I agree with you. Money wise it's a smarter play to do it like that, but doing it on site like that is. He needs his thing and go and fight somebody to make money. Why wouldn't you do that? Menor, you should do that. You need that.

You're the one that's kind of hurting. You're staying here on the couch. I'll fight anybody. I don't give a fuck. It doesn't matter, though. You should do a fight. I mean, dude, I'm down for anything. Jake will pay you fucking $2,500 to pay it.

Listen, your shit talk would be wild. You already turned up right now. I'm just, no, I'm just chilling. I mean, we had a... You versus Antonio Brown. No, he'd beat your ass. A. B's my brother. I would do it in a way, like, I mean, your thing is different because you are, the

The MMA thing with you is something you're not doing, right? Because you're too... You don't want to do MMA? No, I want to. Yeah, but how does that really happen? Without talking shit? How does it actually really happen? What's the moves in the mid?

Well, if Nate Diaz would have said yes, we would have already fought by now. So why didn't he say yes, you think? I think there's too much to risk for him. Like, and I don't think he thinks he can actually beat me because he's a stand-up MMA guy. Yeah, and like, yeah, he has jutsu or whatever, but it's just too much risk. Like, imagine Jake Paul beats Nate Diaz. in MMA, his legacy is tarnished.

Like, is that worth the $10 million, $15 million offer? But now I think Mike Perry could be interesting to do in MMA. What do you think about? Nate recently said, I saw something on Twitter. He didn't get paid, right? Yeah, he didn't get, he was offered or he was guaranteed $10 million. Now there's a whole lawsuit. He didn't get the $10 million.

So these are other, like, I don't know the name of the game, though. Like, there's a lot of sketchy-ass people in boxing, especially that company. I'm pretty sure, like allegedly, in my opinion. you have to say that now so you don't get sued allegedly in my opinion that company still owes my brother money like how do you avoid that though well you just do your own company like that's what i've done because i've built most valuable promotions and we're like a good trustworthy doing right business in the the craziest boxing most corrupt industry so it just and then also like not trusting people if someone says they're going to give you a 10 million

dollar guarantee like they got to really back that shit up you want to get on the mic oh what up cooze what up right yeah I heard you see you man

let me tell you about how I'm stand back to no don't even bring that up I bring fair game I didn't not whose fucking dog is this by the way is this yours oh wow all right

there he is no we uh coo's who's in house happy birthday happy birthday once again too happy birthday happy birthday

Kuse? My birthday. He got Randy. Oh, we're having a night tonight, eh? We had a great day. I wanted to ask you something, actually.

What? At the white party? Uh-huh. Oh, here we go. This is an exclusive one view. I know you guys talk about it. We'll sit out for a little bit. I don't know how I got home,

but I, something remembered that, like, you helped me or something. Hmm. But I don't really remember, though. It was super late, maybe. Yeah, it was late.

Were you guys in there? Yeah. Wasn't that like a week and a half before the fight? Yeah. Really? I was on some John Jones shit. No, but you got a blast though. It was, it was great.

It was amazing. That was your first time, no? Yeah. Yeah, it was lit. Oh, you're a white party vet? I'm a vet, yeah. But Ruben had been... We couldn't make it this year.

I just want to make it clear. But Ruben had been invited me for like four years and I could never go because the fights and I was like, fuck it. I don't give a fuck. I'm just going to go. Right. Figure it out. How was the white party?

It was great. It was a vibe. what's it like for like people like what can you say honestly you're just talking to hell of people and like all the sudden five hours goes by because everywhere you turn is like a familiar face and you're just like having good conversation i would say it's more networking than the party until like like are people getting fucked up there but it's still like yeah it's till like 5 p.m. like 5 a.m. so it's like a full i guess wait because how many i think a lot of people got super fried this year though and left early

yeah for how many years have you been invited now or attended I think this is like my third three in a row I got one invite and then I got axed you didn't get invited you're fucking lying bro Bob you did not get invited Ruben and I are very fucking tight on a level of different things

he's the one who introduced us yeah introduced us yeah so Michael Michael Michael's always been a dear friend I went once and that's fine because I know my spot I think he bought me with Sequin and we just vibed out it was good you did not go to the white party yeah it was Sequin the first year me My sister, my sister, me and Sequin.

Where was it at? In, I think it was in L.A., I think, or so. I don't know what I went to. I think I, or maybe, I don't know what it was. Gucci-May was there. He didn't like me at all. Who's, who is some of the most, like, famous people there? I would say, like, Jay-Z was he, he was there, right?

Yeah, he was there. I think, you know. I took a picture with Kim-K-K. If I saw Brady, I'd go crazy. Him-K. Him-K.? Yeah. Like a prom-pick almost.

You know who I saw was. fucking You got in trouble for that one O'Leary The shark take guy But I had like an RM on I had like the Lamans on And he looked at it

He was like fucking locked in on it That's the guy that does a shark take Exactly Oh he was wearing two watches But then I was like yo big fan Because like I love watches And he go And then I go

So what's on your wrist And then he just goes like pow Like just like this both times He had like a crash skeleton on And like a F.P. Jorn but like two watches is insane how competitive is it there

I mean bro you're super like every you gotta bust out your nicest wash your most rare shit there because Jay Z's wearing some crazy shit yeah I saw he's wearing like a $3 million how you when you get there though that is a flex off when you get there you know how people that are big names they like to show up

and be like late like fashionally late like who's the first like Travis Scott just like the first one there and nobody else is there now everyone kind of just who pulled up first who pulled up first everyone was there early like it's an early thing And everyone, like, just gets there.

There's not, I didn't think it was weird or, like, people had egos or that competitive or anything. I think it's, everyone just, I think everyone was nice. Is there, like, a smash room? Not to be whatever, but is there, like, a place where just... Yeah, what do you guys think about the comparisons to, like, the ditty parties? I think it's funny, but... It's also, like... It's just, like, a jealousy thing, maybe.

Yeah, it's like, okay, everyone just wants to link up and have fun, what, like, everyone chill out. Yeah. But people on the internet just take things wild and run with the... conspiracy theories but he does do a good job like michael's puts together some cool and nobody has security like that's the thing too so like you're around oh he's got snipers in the trees though yeah for sure but like individual people you know what i mean like you can walk up and approach anybody and like well that's not true actually i that's not true because i got in trouble what happened no i just had a running with gucci main once and then

a couple other guys so i didn't really michael at the party yeah like i just kind of was obviously i get to another level of like fucked up how'd you approach him I just try to be like a little bit hood and he didn't really think I was. So he kind of shut me away with the best way to approach it. I know. It's probably a little weird. Yeah, what's up, bro? I'm fucking OTF, whatever you is.

Oh my gosh, shut the fuck up over here. This guy. Mike Perry, he was easy work. You got to get better guys. I'm getting sick and tired of watching. I'm not being a dick either. And I think the rest of the world I speak for him. You got to start fighting bigger guys.

Well, I try to. I try to. I want Kenelow. I want all these people. But at the end of the day, they're not signing the contract. so but Mike Tyson's a bigger guy yeah I know so how do you feel when Tyson has this whole health issue

does that like motivation wise are you like yo Mike maybe this guy is not fit he's too old or you just like people are going to start talking whatever people are always going to have something to say but we're not Mike Tyson's dad like if he wants to do the fight and he feels healthy enough and he's the one that wanted

to be a pro fight and he's been doing this his whole life then why not if if he's down I'm down You should just make it You should make it one round That's it with him Eight Like you can't go and like

Fight a six year old guy And make it like seven rounds You're gonna fight him one round How many rounds in six? I agreed to like Whatever rules he wanted to He wanted to though And you have to remember that

With Mike Perry Like you can sit there and talk shit But at the end of the day Everyone before the fight was like Why are you doing this This is the biggest mistake He's a champion He's gonna be the one to end you

He's in his prime Like that's everything before the fight but then when I fucked them up they want to discredit me so it's just a wishy-washy sport and obviously people are going to try to you know sit there and be like

hey you didn't do this you need to do that but no that was an impressive win for sure you fucking fucked him up with Mike Perry how does your BKFC champion though Jake was all over him in the fight but he like knocked out Luke Rockhold's teeth like beat all of these champions and then it's like

okay just because of make it look easy, then people are mad about it. But Alex, Alex Pereira would be a good fight. Exactly. But this is what I'm saying. But then, but then I call him out. And people are like, oh, Jake's fucking crazy. Fucking idiot.

He's going to get killed. That goes through Dana, right? And I'm like, yo, like, what, what do you people want? Like, what I'm not about you the most? It's like you do this every fucking fight. Yeah. And it's the same reaction. Yeah.

At least my, I'll stop looking in. and it's like your self-confidence is just like so dope but it's like you really like you're passionate about this yeah you can see it you could feel it like like you like you know what I mean yeah no it's it's fucking crazy I think the people's opinion is like he's calling these people out because he knows it'll never happen like he calls out Carrera is not Pereira's not gonna know it's not gonna happen you don't think it'll happen you're friends with Dana tell Dana bro well I don't think it's possible right but why not because he's like if

If we're going to sell two, but if we're going to sell two million pay-per-views, like, this is a business at the end of the day. The reason why Dana Let McGregor- Well, I don't think they care about like a quick buck like that. Do you think? I think so for sure, especially because I think the pay-per-view numbers in this industry are going down. There's too much illegal streaming, and it's just a tougher, tougher business now. And so I think- I think the UFC is always looking at, like, long-term as opposed to, like, one big fight, right? yeah but i mean if perera is selling like 500k pay-per-view buys and then this has a chance to do two three million that's basically six fights so i see both sides of it but i'm down and and at the

end of the day like i'm going to call this guy out because when i beat him they can't say weight they can't say height they can't say old they can't say any of these things and so i want the toughest competition in the world and by the way i'm still going to fight boxers i'm still on a path to world championship, you know, behind the scenes. And the WBA wants to set up me versus Julio Cesar Chavez for the WBA belt. So that could very easily be a world championship fight right now. But I'm four years into this and everyone is like, do this, do that, do that. I'm like, you know, just relax, deep breath everyone. Like I'm going to get to all of these things and fight all the hardest people and challenge myself. And if I lose, then I lose. Then I lose.

lose. But at the end of the day, I'm not afraid of anyone. And so people can hate, and I understand the hate, I understand them being mad and stuff, but I'm just trying to fight everyone that they've put in front of me. What about John Jones? In what? In boxing? John Jones, I would do it. Yeah, I would do it. He would

have the upper hand. John, I'm so mad, John's not fighting anymore. Why isn't John Jones fighting anymore? Injury. He's back soon. He's only had one fight. He's fighting at the end of the year. Oh, is he? I think the main thing is like when they look at Pereira, he's the face of the UFC right now. So it's like he would take that leap out of being the face of a whole organization, whatever, UFC,

and then he'd go step into boxing and kind of risk his whole career over. Exactly. So the callout for him, it's like, why would I do that? But who do you want me to fight? Pereira's good. Who is on the hit list? Like, who's like five people? Yeah, I mean, Pereira, McGregor, Canelo, KSI, Tommy Fury.

Why doesn't the KSI fight happen? Like, actually. It's honestly. The difficulty in... It's weight? Figuring out the weight. So what? He wants to fight at a lower weight.

You want it at a higher weight? Well, yeah. When we both agreed to like 185, but that was 18 months ago. And so now it's like... What'd you weigh in? We're both heavier. Like, he's walking around at 205. I'm walking around at like 212.

So... So he wants that I wanted... I couldn't make 185 anymore. So that's part of the issue. Like, I'll never fight again. the lowest I can make is like $195, and that would be difficult. So it's figuring that out, but I've agreed to all of his other terms. I've said you could be the A-side.

We could fight in London. Anything else you want, like, just compromise a little bit on the weight. That fight would be fucking... The build-up to that would be crazy. How much is Logan involved in that being his partner and shit? Well, Logan doesn't want me to fight him because... It'll cause issues. No, because he knows I'll win.

And it's, like, kind of a bad look for Prime. But he does. He's like, I don't want you to, but, like, I know you have to, so you should do it. Is Tyson when you negotiate with, like, Tyson, right? You have the upper hand in every probably contractual fucking thing that you do, right, with anybody else. But Tyson is probably somebody you have to give the upper hand to, right? Like, what was the splits between you and Tyson's fight? It's 50-50.

Everything? Yeah. But we brought the deal to the table. Like, we partnered with Netflix to do their first ever boxing event, and then we went to Tyson. So when you bring the money and the cash to the table, then you also have more power and leverage. But I'm also the A side in the Tyson fight. So this is also Tyson's probably his last fight. I don't know.

I mean, dude, obviously, yeah, Tyson's not ever, he's like, this fight not even might happen. I don't know. You actually think it'll happen. November 15th. He's back to training and feeling great. so it's definitely going to happen and I think he wants to keep doing things after this like the way he looks the way he feels again he's the one that wanted it to be a pro fight so he obviously knows something that we don't how about how about Tommy Fury do you want to

run that one back sure yeah got beat you 100% has he fought since KSI or no no right I think he got hand surgery so we we're talking to his team behind closed doors a little bit And that will definitely happen. I got to avenge that. Is that something you want to run back? Yeah, for sure. Got to do it. And it was, you know, good fight, good challenge.

All of these things did massive numbers. So it makes sense 100% to run that back. Was that your biggest fight, pay-per-view-wise? Tommy Fury. Yeah. Yep. All right, brother. And it went out like a bank robbery.

Oh, yeah. Go crazy, bro. Happy birthday, man. Oh, we said a low. Said our best. What, you came here to send the wire? Bob, Bob's been talking all day We'll figure that

We'll figure that out later No, we got it, we got it We'll figure it out We don't easily it Okay They were talking a lot of shit Before you got here And then they fucking get scared

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Yeah, that's probably... But I tried to get into it, but I don't... You have to get past, like, a certain wall. Yeah, it's easier when you're drinking. Whoever created these fucking things has got to be... Wait, so they sold it for like $16 billion. Yeah, so whoever did these things, did it right. Actually, I have an opportunity that we should talk about for y'all

because we're investing in, like, a competitor to Zinn. It could be interesting. Yeah, there's a lot of those, but I heard it's such a, like... Like, I know alcohol is, like, old school business, but that shit's like a fucking real mafia type shit. Tobacco and nicotine? It's the guy who created the Zin formula. He did a new one.

So he's like legit as fuck. Damn, man, that would be crazy. I just thought of that. Aren't you, you're about to be an uncle pretty soon? Yeah. How do you feel about that? I think it's crazy. Like, I don't really know what you expect.

You got to manage two businesses, your boxing career. Now you've got to be an uncle, bro. But I feel like it's going to be easy. Like, what is the uncle? uncle do you just gotta buy him dope gifts or her i'm just gonna buy her like a Lamborghini rc thing for her first birthday probably yeah uncle's a easy job yeah i don't think i gotta do shit no responsibility i'm more worried about logan like and he doesn't know what to do i'm like yo what is your schedule gonna be like now he's like i don't know everything becomes

about the kid now because it's different because he doesn't have like a nine to five it's like what do you do where do you take the kid daddy That's actually the smartest thing you've said all fucking day. I think he's right. You get a good nanny. What do you think about Ryan Garcia's the PD thing, him being banned for life? Was that harsh or no?

That one's weird to me. It's just overall. How does that work? Because people say it could be transferred through sweat. I saw like sugar tweet that the other day and shit. Well, yeah, sugar also got popped for this. And he swore to my eyes, no cameras around that, you know, he never did that. And they just popped because of a,

dirty supplement. So I'm not saying that's what happened to Ryan Garcia. I don't know, but why would he take that small of a dose of a steroid or whatever it is on the week of the fight? Because the only test he popped for was the one the day before the fight. So you wouldn't just start taking a steroid on fight week. You get tested the whole time leading up to the fight. So you would have been popped in one of those tests in camp you get tested randomly they show up whenever so why hi i'm ryan garcia i'm gonna take a minimal dose of a steroid on fight week that's not gonna do anything and it tested like super low yeah like barely almost below the legal amount and i'm not saying he's in it like he popped for it it is what it is he's guilty

but it is weird it is fucking weird and the whole thing with like, and I love Devin Haney and he's probably going to be mad about the, like, saying this, but it's like he's also super close with the guy who helped found the drug

testing commission. Yeah. I also want to say, I don't fucking know. They're literally like, like this. Are you defending Ryan? No, I'm saying it's weird. I watch the highlights back and it's like, bro, if you get those shots in, whether you're on some shit or not, like

you're probably going to fuck your opponent up. That's what I'm saying. And I value the truth. And this is, it's just me being honest with how I feel about the situation. Like, I don't fucking know. It doesn't, all of it doesn't really make sense to me. Has your credibility from your last fights? You said you fought two fighters.

You fought Tommy Fury. Has it, have people respected you more as you go? Or is it still always, you know, this guy needs to fight somebody real? Like, I don't really know what the public sentiment is. And I don't really care. because I'm only four years into this. So people who have been doing this for 20 years, that's, you know, they're comparing me to that,

and I take that as a compliment. But regardless, when I become a world champion and multiple time world champion, then, like, what is anyone going to say after that? For sure. Yeah, I will say, I saw McGregor tweeted something about Mike Perry going to be your ass. McGregor's the phone.

And then after he says, yo, Mike Perry, you're fired. Right? Yeah, exactly. This is what I'm trying to say. Before I fight these people, it's Jake's going to lose. This is a mistake. What the fuck is he doing? Why?

Shut the, uh, and then I make easy work of them. And then it's like, dude, you fucking suck. You won't call out anybody else. What are you doing? You're too heavy. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. I'm kind of surprised. I'm not going to lie.

I'm kind of surprised that McGregor hasn't really, like, entertain the idea of fighting you. He'll never fight me. He'll never fight me. Okay. But he'll never fight me. why do you think that is then if he'll fight if he'll fight mayweather and mayweather's close to prime i'm not going to lie at this point i think jake would beat mcgregor why don't you think i might get flack for that but like i might get flack for that but like look it look but if he'll fight mayweather and he'll make a huge money whatever why do you think he'll never fight you because losing to the greatest boxer of all time in floyd mayweather doesn't hurt his career and he makes two hundred million dollars losing to jake paul that's why nate dyes won't do mima against me 100% and look at Nate Diaz go toe to toe with Connor standing up exchanging shots back and forth in multiple fights and then I just beat Nate Diaz's ass he doesn't land a single punch the gloves are a big difference though right the gloves compared to obviously this is a this is a funny you ask and bring this up is everyone thinks the smaller the glove the more powerful the hits are and it's actually the opposite because if you have a one pound weight swinging in the air like this and I hit you in the head with it, you're going to get

fucked up versus if I have four ounces swinging around like this and it hits you. So the weight on the end of the glove actually creates more momentum and force and it's actually a bigger impact zone. So it causes more blunt trauma over the head versus the more precise smaller gloves. So there's benefits to both, but that's why you see some of these guys like come over to boxing and they can't take the hits because there's bigger blunt trauma. It's like getting hit with a sludge hammer or if you get hit with a screwdriver. The screwdriver is more like

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Tommy Fury. I thought Woodley caught you one time. He did. That was probably the second hardest hit. Probably Tommy Fury with an uppercut. And were you, were you dazed? Yeah, I couldn't see shit. And at that point, but that's part of fighting, you know?

Do you feel like a chip on your shoulder when you see, like, all these UFC fighters can make, like, Pereira, he's come up has been very recent? Like, all these UFC fighters can go zero to 100 really quick. And boxing, you rarely see that now. so you're kind of like putting boxing it seems like on your back no for sure and that that's where I applaud the UFC and what they've done for MMA as a sport in their promotion production

all of their shit is amazing like people think I hate UFC's fucking dope yeah no people think I hate the UFC and it's and I don't I think Dana's hurt by I don't know if he's hurt I love Dana yeah but also like I didn't

Katie's the godfather but that's what I'm saying but like I also have a lot of respect for like his R&C speech, bro, was amazing. Like, we agree on so many things. And I think he has a great side of him. And I'm sure we'd be friends, you know, maybe in this life, maybe in a different life. I just want fighters to get paid more.

That's, that's it. How do fighters get paid right now? What's like the basement of them? 12,000 to fight. So, like, even if they fought four times a year, that's not enough to support their family. Yeah, but you also get the purse, too, if you have the fight of the night. In the beginning stages, when you first sign up, it's all on you, too. There's bonuses, of course, yeah.

right how how tapped in are you to like the social media scene now that you're like focused on boxing like do you see all this there's a lot of drama every day right yeah chris tyson shit all that what's good with that that's what's what i'm saying do you like pay attention to that or is that i'm very tapped in what's good with that show why do i know because you're into that shit what what do you mean you're living in l.a you're with all the ticotkers and shit okay that's not true that's a that's a real athlete sorry chris dyson i'm trying to think of who that is real quick uh jake you know who that is yeah okay do you want you tackle this one i don't really know too much about him or her i don't really know so he was in mr bese crew and then he became transgender he became

transgender and then he was he was allegedly or i guess it's proven out talking to like a 14 dude the dude the the the question is like do you do you still are you still tapped into that whole scene and do you you know i definitely like see the the drama and like the big things that go on for sure. I think it's funny and interesting. That's where I started, so I'll never go away from that. I love the YouTube scene. I think some of the drama is, like, funny and shit, but

I don't really care to comment on it because, like... It's not my problem, you know? We know, like, Big Mike's gonna always go with, like, the majority. So I was just seeing if, like... Do you travel with security when you go out or no? Yeah, yeah. Do you ever have people fuck with you? Not much. Not much.

I would say The only the craziest shit was when Floyd tried to jump me So that was real? Yeah That was at the NBA Yeah At that time I think it was You got caught off guard in that one right

Yeah bro there was all of a sudden There was 30 people around me Like how do you The car was like right there And then all of a sudden I'm getting jumped And I was like fuck this I'm out You just dipped right Yeah and I made the right decision

He would have like Sprints paid off the sprint training Like I started jukeing people Like if I would have stayed there There would have been a video of me getting my ass beat online like they would have just started stomping on me and shit so yeah i made the right decision don't try to be tough like stay alive and be safe who do you think wins right now i'm not standing on business and that that's what i said i was like 30 guys if there's if there's

four people i'm going to be like fuck you i'll beat your fucking ass there's 10 people like i'm so sorry i'm going to run so this fight will probably never happen but who do you think wins between you and Logan like I would win I would win he he doesn't you know take it as serious at all like he doesn't even train anymore he's killing the WWE thing though yeah obviously piss you off when he's like yo I denied them

Mike Tyson fight it seems like it's kind of shade at you like big bro pass it off to little bro yeah but I mean that's that's part of life you know and you just roll roll with the ebbs and flows and at the end of the day we're super close

and every big brother and little brother goes through some shit like that and we've learned how to communicate now with each other and just to like squash problems way better and it's just a process but no one has a handbook or a manual to like teach brothers how to act in front of the world stage and competing in some of the same things

and you know he's partners with one of my enemies and it's just like do you really dislike KSI I guess I I guess I dislike the things he says online Right like but I don't know him as a person So I and I know not to ever like judge someone through Social media or what I see online because I know how people judge me

And like I'm completely different than anyone would ever imagine like knowing me in person So I just don't really care that much But I do want to fight him It would be hard to talk shit to Tyson though you got to be careful Like Tyson is just a legend So like if you like The shit talking is different with different people No 100%

So like but I don't I never really I don't really shit talk Tyson You're pretty good You're pretty good on the mic They already did it talking shit though Thank you I'm trying to think of who else has been good That you fought on the mic

But like Nate Diaz doesn't talk much I guess Mike Perry talks a little bit Yeah He had that chain People were saying that you paid for that chain His his chain Yeah He did gift it to me

I just had him on the podcast And he gifted it to me He gave you the chain You're getting knocked out? Yeah. Oh, you have it here? Yeah. Why did he give that to you?

He said, because I'm never going to wear this, and he said you beat my ass, respect. How much you think that costs? I'll take it. If you're never going to wear it, I'll fucking wear it. Your dog is. I'm definitely going to wear it. What do you make of all this?

I know you were supporting Vivek, right? Yeah. So are you still, are you behind Trump, and what do you make of all this? What do you make of Biden dropping out in Kamala's? stepping in well it's crazy if a vague predicted it and he's been right about so many things and i don't know what's going on there you know like it just crazy you met trump too right yeah yeah yeah crazy times we're living in i'm i'm seeing trump in a couple of days from now but

definitely definitely uh team trump and yeah i think he's the the right person he's he's you know an amazing amazing president with just actual facts of what he did in the office And clearly this last presidency left our country in shambles. Things are a fucking chaotic piece of shit mess. And I want what's best for my future kids, my brothers, and my peers. And it's not about, oh, what Donald Trump said on Twitter, you know, some people not liking his personality or who he is. But what did he do for this country? He kept this out of wars, you know.

And that's arguably the most important thing right now. Like we're on the brink of World War III Madness chaos We can't have Combrill Harris Putin and Kim John Moon the same car together You see Common Harris and no one And no one respects

The United States right now as a country But when Donald Trump gets into the office There's respect They're not going to try to do shit They're not going to try to take advantage of us Strike crazy business deals Do shady shit I like

The fact that Donald Trump's a billionaire Because he doesn't need to do corrupt shit To make money That's a good fucking thing And what people forget Is America's a business Point blank period So if you put in someone who's a politician

They don't know how to fuck to run a business That's why I like to Vivek Because he actually is a self-made billionaire Who knows how to structure teams How to hire people How to solve problems Get shit done How to build relationships

Get shit done Same shit with Trump So I actually like I don't think politicians Should be running in our countries I think it should be businessmen and I could talk about this for days and hours

but I think it's going to be a lot closer now with Kamala though than Biden because I think you see now people like I think all the left wing people were kind of silent under Biden but now that Kamala's out I think you're starting to see everyone come back out

like Beyonce just let her use her song for her like intro or whatever there's a lot of weird shit going on so much weird shit like yo this was all planned so then It was all planned, I think. And every woman is bringing in, yeah, Kamala when it's supposed to be democracy. I mean, I think this was like a sneak attack, right?

I don't know. This just shows how fucking embarrassing America is right now, to be honest with you. How do you, how did you think of your entrance on this one, on this last fight, on the chariot? Yeah, I don't know. I saw this TikTok where it was like, this guy has no aura. That shit, it made me, it made me laugh. But I don't know. I don't really care about the entrances, like, I just want to fight.

I picked the walkout song, like, the day before, just because I had to. Like, I don't, I'm losing interest in, like, certain parts of boxing. Like, I just want to go in there and just fight, so. I feel like a lot of people, athletes, artists are giving you a lot of respect, though, for what you've created. Whether you're, like, being the fighter that people want you to be or you're just doing what you're doing and you're creating a big name for yourself, it seems like everyone's giving you the respect. at that level. Yeah, the peers and the other people

who are big in sports showing respect is what matters to me more than any of the critics or the fans because those people know what it takes. I mean,

coo's sitting here and showing love. It's like people like that who behind closed doors are always showing mad love and respect and that matters to me more than anything else.

How do you like living in Puerto Rico? I love it, man. It's Paris. paradise best place in the world you have bob stay at your house for six months absolutely not there's no chance of that ever no what if he posted w once a week no he'll be one story a week and one feed post a month no no no way for free he just lives at your place no no shot i'm not i bet jakes back the whole entire time i'm trying to help you out how was the hawk to a girl uh she was cool i actually like think she's doing a great job of managing like imagine getting super famous

and apparently she's only 21 so like imagine three weeks ago you're a normal last person and then all of a sudden you're world famous so I feel like she's handling it really well. She hung around too like she didn't it didn't go away. No and and whoever's doing her content I feel like it's doing a pretty good

job so we'll see I don't know but what's her play what should she do she did talk to us bro you should get one. What does that mean when you spit on someone's cock yeah we're not doing that not somebody's cock over here. Stony might but what?

I'll take out to her. What does she do, though? What's the play here from you two smart guys? She's doing, like, philanthropy stuff, which I think is really smart. Just giving back. Like, everyone's like, you're going to be famous for 15 minutes, and then her thing now is I'm just going to do good with my platform for the 15 minutes of fame that I have.

I wonder how much she would have made if she dropped an only fan. Yeah. Probably like 50 mil in a month. How much? I don't think it's that much. Maybe a million a month. Max. No, more.

No way. She probably would have made like 10. Did you see bad babies earning she posted? I didn't see that. That was also like during COVID and shit. People are jerking more. Yeah. I'm excited for the Tyson fight though.

I can't get over that. You've got to make that happen. There's no chance it's going to ever. How would you see it falling through? Just his health? It's going to happen. No, November 15th. Like it's already ready to go.

And the first session, when you got the news that Tyson was out, how did you get that call? My manager called me. it was devastating I saw you did a video in the rain outside your crib right yeah yeah just like

I mean joke well that was funny how did you break it to you though so you get the call and they said basically Mike's out and that's just like that's it and then are you scrambling

to find Mike Perry no I wasn't gonna I was just like is there always a plan B no there was no plan B but after 48 hours

I was like let's keep this event alive I want to keep training stay in the gym who should we fight and Mike Perry has been on the back burner so

how do guys go about going on your undercard like what's the process for people to get on the undercard it's pretty difficult like you control many requests and so many fights but mostly we want to help young prospects we want big names

and then we want like crossover fights like Yuri Hall versus Chavez like things like that so you bring up danis fighter pay and all that so what are those guys getting on your card or any of you we pay people the most they've ever gotten paid what is that number pretty much every every card so it depends like who or what their name is but it could range anywhere from you know 40,000 to 1.5 million are you guys giving fight bonuses like Dana does or no um no we don't but we're also like not a six billion dollar corporation right it's like that that's my

my gripe with it is the UFC is making billions and billions and billions of dollars, but still only paying their fighters 12% of the income. But there's more of a chance for them to come up through the UFC than with you guys in. For you, it's going to only be

a one-off. Say it again. With these guys for you under you. Saying it's more upside for... So there's more upside. So when you knock fighter pay and you knock Dana's fighter pay, right? I'm saying that I'm assuming there's more upside for them because it's a safer fucking place to... Social media fighting all that. Is that what it takes? Is that what it takes to have a steady name? Is that what it takes

to have like a steady name and like in the business? Like a UFC? Like there's no UFC of boxing. You know what I'm saying? Like is that just the split of what it takes to like maintain a name in that business? Do you know what I mean by that? No, I don't know if I like there's no UFC of boxing.

There's no league. Because Dana says every fight. So the guys fight on your undercard, right? And they win and they do a great job. They're not guaranteed to be on Jake Paul's next undercard. No, we signed multiple fight contracts. okay yeah so who's somebody that is similar structure who's somebody that's been on the undercar with you that has had that happen where they've gotten another fight serran i mean Amanda serrano

went from like making $10,000 a fight to being the highest paid female boxer okay making two mill the fight so it just depends but but yeah like it's it's just different economics and different terms but yeah is your is your goal to eventually be like a Dana white and not to be you know no but i'm saying control league like that like have a big ass league where it's like you know you're fucking i mean it would be cool to do that in boxing it's just almost impossible why is that there's so much segregation and so many big power players and there's also six times more boxers than there are mcm fighters because boxing has been around since the 1500s so it's in every country more professional fighters so you're

managing like bigger pools of talent and then to convince the top 1% of boxers to sign into a league yeah is they're like why would I do this because I'm basically going to be forfeiting revenue yeah but Dana did that in MMA because MMA was a new sport MMA started 30 you know something years ago right and then the UFC was you know invented at the same time so he was there from the start if some boxing organizer was a part of boxing in the 1500s and created a league, then

sure he could have probably enveloped it all into one. So you would like tomorrow, if Dana was like, all right, you know what fuck a Jake, let's go. You would fight in the UFC? It depends on the opponent, right? I mean, I'm signed to the PFL for MMA. So it can't happen anyway.

So all the stuff that shit. But that's not what the goal has been, though. I mean, I can, I can at the end of the day. fight whoever I want, but in terms of like, my main goal is just to increase fighter

pay within the UFC. The NFL, the NBA, pays their athletes 50% of the revenue, 5.050. And the UFC, again, pays their fighters 12 to 15% of the NFL. The NFL are playing

18 weeks. No, NFL is different, but the NBA, I think, like, there's a lot of times you see some guys that don't even see the floor get 30 million so it's a bad business move on their part and they wouldn't be cutting the checks if it was a bad business yeah but there's a lot of NBA players that make a lot of fucking money that are not worth a bag flourishing but the UFC's the most profitable sports business so why not share but this but you only get you to understand this you're only on the stage for fucking five 10 minutes these guys are playing they have to it's the most dangerous sport one of the

most dangerous sports yeah that's that's actually you're not playing 82 games a year you're not playing 18 fucking weeks no he's got a point you're in camp though and you're not paying like NFL players also get their coaches made for it so then timeout so you're dana white you fucking have the keys of the kingdom how are you structuring fighter pay go ahead i'm just raising the minimum from from what to what he's a percentage bro to 50 000 okay and that's first and foremost what i'm going to do that's for anybody on the undercard and anybody in the and that will only cost the ufc 20 million dollars a year and they're making billions so that means that also you're going to increase the level of participation in the sport if someone and the

competition like if someone has to fight but also like work another job the sport isn't going to get better yeah but you got to respect danes mentality of like you got to fucking come here and earn it bro right you got to come here and fucking work but even but even his top fighters are getting taken advantage of as well stands up from all the time jones all the big fighters stand up because they earn their keep and they got to that level also they're playing a game I'm the only one that can talk shit about them. If they're in the ecosystem, they're not going to talk shit about them and be like, pay me more, you suck, I hate you.

No, you have guys silently throw shots. Exactly, exactly. And then they end up getting fucked over. Let me ask this, Sugar Sean, what does Sugar Sean make for his last fight? Not as much as he's worth. Okay. I know that for sure. Basically, the only person who's, you know, paid what they're worth in the UFC is McGregor.

What does John Jones you think get to show up and fight? A lot. Like, but what is this bad? I have no idea. Well, wait, what do you think about... John is the fucking... I mean, it's Francis and Gano getting paid $600K. Being the heavyweight champion of the world for a fight is absurd.

That must have been a long time ago. No, that was... 600K? Have you felt like you ever taken an injury that's... People... Dude, people like to say, like, yo, Jake's probably asked CTE. Like, he's taking some head punches. Do you feel like you've taken any damage like that?

I mean, yeah, but mostly in sparring. It's like the small shots that add up, right? But... if you do the math you know it's like i've probably sparred six to 700 times in the past four years right and that's an average of probably five rounds of spar so 3,000 rounds Sean Strickland would be good to fight he won't fight me yeah he'd be good because he could box right I already try to spar him I tried to pay him

a million dollars and send him a private jet to spar him and he ducked it. But when you make these offers with people, they're real offers? Bob, what the fuck do you mean? Is that the biggest? Is that the biggest offer you've made to somebody to spar you? To spar, yeah. And he turns it down.

I mean, also, I offered a million dollars to spar patty Fimbled and he ducked it, too. There's no way he would not accept a million dollars to spar. I don't believe this. That's insane. There's no chance. I think he posted the DMs too. And then he was like, do UFC won't let me spar a guy like you? But meanwhile, he sparred Neon, who was also.

influencer so he can spar whoever he wants sneako sneako yeah do you uh yeah neon would have been I get them mixed up neon's a dead man do you go to a lot of UFC events uh no no I'm banned really yeah you're banned from the UFC

how do you hear that you went once right yeah I went like three times and then the third time they banned me does Dana put him in the section with everybody he's probably where you sit way back I got banned after Daniel Cormier like came up me and shit what did what did dc say to you he he i don't fucking know what it's like some stupid

shit like you better not be disrespecting all fight it like this brother i love that i don't fucking know but like after you fight dyes mike perry is at all love after um with perry yeah like i think perry and i respect each other not dyes because dyes they those guys just don't give a fuck they don't give a fuck but what about like tommy fury I have respect for him. Yeah, 100%. What do you think, like, for the fans, the fight that they want to see the most? Probably KSI.

I'd love to see KSI. Yeah, I think that. Because I'm a big press conference guy. I love when the build-ups just like, that would just be crazy. KSI's got to do that. You guys got to figure it out somehow. We've been trying for four years. Is he fighting soon?

He's fighting two people, right? I think they, I think he changed it. That shit stupid. Yeah, I think he got so much hate that he changed it to one person, but I don't know who it is. Have you been able to, like, tune out your emotion? Like, let's say, Logan, fighting Dylan, there's a lot of bullshit there. You fighting these other people saying crazy shit, like, do you tune that out? Is it all part of the game, or do you...

I mean, nothing could be as worse as that, though. Do you get upset when you see that kind of shit? That was... Fuck. So does that personally? Like, does that emotionally affect you? Like, wow, fuck this motherfucker. I've never been that heated over a fight, to be honest, like...

I've never gotten riled up where I'm like, my emotions are affecting me. I think it's all funny. And also, I like when people talk shit about me and say, like, I'm balding or your nose is crooked or you're fat or whatever they say. Like, I think it's funny. And I also like the buildup. So I want them to talk shit. How important do you think it is, like, to be able to talk shit and get somebody's head? It just depends who the person is.

But honestly, like, the good fighters don't feed into that shit. So I always talk about McGregor and Aldo How McGregor fucking got an Aldo's head in Brazil And he was able to beat his ass Or knock him out But then he talks shit to Khabib And Khabib just fucking squashes him You don't want to talk shit to the wrong person, right?

Yeah, it just depends on the person If I know I can get in someone's head I'll try harder But Most of these guys are at a high level So they're not going to feed into that shit Do you bet on your own fights? No, I haven't

Well, that's actually a good question. I mean, I was curious. Because Garcia said he bet two million around himself, right? Yeah, I think if I were to fight someone like Pereira and I was like a big underdog, then I would bet. But we'll see. Game was fun. I'm surprised you don't do that. The odds are always shit.

Yeah. Yeah, I guess that's true. Have you been a favorite in every single fight? Besides Tommy. Tommy, yeah. You were an underdog going into Fury? Yeah, and Nate Robinson. But then after I knocked out Nate Robinson,

then I was never an underdog again. The Fury family's nuts, though. Like, they talk, doesn't the uncle get involved and talking shit in the father-in-law? They're fucking wild. But they know what they're doing, though. Yeah, they're marketing. Yeah.

He's hilarious, John Feeder. Dude, I don't get it. If you're making this much money, like, boxing, how the fuck do you focus on your other side businesses? Why not? He has all these eyeballs. Like, everyone's watching the fight, and it's a free fucking W ad.

No, I get that, but I'm saying, like, how do you pay attention as a C-Bunk? to be like fuck like i gotta take this call i gotta do this when i'm just like in my prime and i'm young like when i'm like 32 and have kids or something then so is there a goal is what i'm saying yeah i mean i i want to just be able to be like fully fully financially free and like live by what age probably like 32 what's the number is a question i think yeah what's financially free I think like having a billion liquid A billion?

Yeah What's the total you've made so far Of all your fights in boxing? Man, I don't even know Bob is such a numbers guy, bro That's crazy I've generated like 300 million in pay-per-views Wow

That's crazy How soon does that check hit after the fight Or when do you get? Each one is different It depends It depends on there If there's a guarantee Or if you're getting

Off the pay-per-view back end But, like, sometimes the pay-per-view back-end won't hit. They'll still be, like, getting in the data, like, a month later. Who's the smart guy who trusts? It doesn't let for you. See, accounting, take time, many. Wait, are you guaranteed? Are you guaranteed money every time?

Or you say, yo, I'll take percentage of pay-per-view, like... Yeah, you're not always guaranteed money. So do you think, like, when it goes to Nate Diaz and Mosvital, like, they made a mistake by being like, yo, this money's up front. Like, it might never hit. Because of who they were getting it from. Like, if you're, like, linking up with Joe from the block, and, like, he's like, yo, I have $10 million guaranteed. You're like, who are you, Joe?

So what's the safest company to rock with? Full Sand podcast. Oh, yeah. Netflix. How much for your guarantee you? On Netflix, ESPN. But you probably had to go through your fair share getting fucked over along the way, right? No.

No. So who does that for you, though? I mean, you have the, no, but you have the brain, no, but you have the brain, not to be a dick. Do you have the brain to be able to do all those deals? Like, somebody has to do it for you. So you have agents, managers, all that? Yeah, I have the best fight manager in the game. Who is that?

Nikisa Bidarian. Former UFC. Nice. Who else he worked with? Amanda Serrano. He's my partner and MVP. Nice. But he has an extensive business background.

What if you ever called out or fought Pacchio? Is he still in the fight game? Packer was like 4'11, is he? No, but he's in the same way class as Mayweather and Canelo. I think they wanted to fight. He's like 140. It's too late. Yeah, I don't, I don't know.

Isn't he like president? You know, he's not the only guy that ever had Mayweather, like, startled in the second round? Shane Mosley? Yeah. That was the last good boxing fight, I'd say. You guys had a falling out, you and him, right? Me and Shane Mosley? Or am I tripping?

No, no, no. But he trained you from a little bit. No, he was just in my camp, like, recently. I'm going on his podcast soon. Wait, so boxing, I don't get it. So if you and, like, Ryan Garcia fought, for instance, what's the weight difference there? How much does he weigh? He walks around like 180, I think.

But that's not like that, because he's got hands, right? Ryan's got... I think me versus Ryan's an interesting fight. They'll be a great fight. Yeah. That'd be a fucking huge fight. He's banned for a year, but I'm down for that fight. But you could probably do it a different way.

If he's banned for a year in that thing, can you move him to a different program or something to fight under? We offered Ryan a fight for MMA at the PFL. Okay. So we're seeing what's going on there. Do you have a deadline you have to fight in the PFL by? No. Do you have like a certain amount of fights? Open-ended.

It's as much as I want. want so you don't even have to i don't have to but i want to so i'll make it happen who's called is it people that been calling you out like random people that don't make sense you just laugh at yeah obviously yeah like who somebody that's called you out that you just laughed at i don't know some reporter kept on trying to bring up some person this past fight week i don't even know who they were some of your w-dwee guy what makes you acknowledge them they like hit up my mom somehow i don't fucking know like so what makes you like acknowledge them when you're talking

shit online like what do they if somebody talks shit to you what makes you like see that and be like i gotta acknowledge this well what he's saying is i saw like after you fought like luke ruckold immediately calls you out maybe on bell but i'm just saying like do you pay attention to any of that or you just like i didn't i mean i didn't see that but like he got his teeth knocked out by mike parry

in one round so then i literally just would look at that your buddy rockold no but nobody all these guys all these guys by the way go straight to fucking go straight to calling you out right after your win or whatever, and I'm just, like, sitting there, like, would Jake ever fight Rockhold? Would he fight? Lave you on Bell, like, no chance.

Yeah, that means a lot of these people are just light work, and it's like I want to do fights that bring credibility and numbers, and that they have, like, a real audience behind him. You've got to call it John Jones. You've got to fight John. I don't think John Jones is the one. Have you fought John? I think Pereira is a way, way bigger draw.

In boxing, beat John Jones? Yeah. John Jones isn't it? I don't know, actually. He's a big boy. I'm sorry, I love you, but fucking no chance. John Jones? That's what everyone says every time, brother.

I know. At this point, it's like a broken record. Bob, are you a hater or are you a supporter? Of who? Jake Paul? I love a Jake Stunner. I think he's crushed it. There's no...

I don't like the shots at Mr. White, but, you know, at the end of the day. Mr. White doesn't answer your calls, as we know. He's been a little... He's had it on Do Not Disturb for a little bit, but... We'll be all good. It's been good, right? We're good, yeah. I was like, damn, we're going long.

Yeah, this is good. Dude, I think this is the third time. Thank you, Stein. This is the third time you've been on, right? Third or fourth, maybe. Third or fourth. No, we love getting you on, though. Every once in a while, we've got to do this.

It's always dope. Are you picking about going on certain shows and who you fuck with? I mean, not really, I guess, but I don't really go on other people's pods. Just you guys are an impulsive and that's really it. Hell yeah. Yeah, I got to say, too. You're definitely one of the coolest guys. Thank you, bro.

Jake's always been supporting us since day one. No, you guys are the best. man i love all your content i the bachelor shit was fucking oh thank you you guys crush it man i'm i'm super proud fucking happy dad everything you guys doing on the business side we have the same lawyer oh yeah michael shut up michael pretty good huh he's no mr men we've had our conversation with that man i'll tell you that much he must be pretty good at michael's the go we've met the lawyer all right thank you all right appreciate you i love thank you man