FULL SEND PODCAST - J.D. Vance x Nelk Boys | Ep. 129

Episode Date: August 2, 2024

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You guys excited? How crazy is this? I'm high for this one, man. I'm like for this one. Very, very. You told me and I was like, damn, I can't miss that. Can't miss it. I'm on the flight.

I mean, yeah, it's been a minute since we've done an episode. We took in a little bit of a break, but. Last one was Will Smith? Last one was Will Smith. So we ended off with a bang, and then when we take a little break, you always got to come back with a bang. Yeah, yeah, this is fire. J.D. Vance. probably the future president

vice president of the United States it's pretty fucking crazy I don't think and he hasn't done he hasn't really done many much interviews definitely no podcasts yeah I haven't seen him on any podcast I've just seen him on like interviews on like mainstream media

which is pretty crazy that he's coming to sit down on the full seven podcast I don't know who sets these up but god damn they're doing a good job shout out John Chahidi fresh cut looks great you look great right now Yeah, Brad, I have action. Do you think you could just thank John for sending this up?

John, thank you for setting this up, yeah. Let's go, yeah, it was fine. I just won 500 bucks. Let's go, baby. Well, you can't, I don't think you could force me to do that. No, it's all good. There was no rules. I didn't, I wasn't sure who did it.

I'm not, what the fuck? It was a collective effort between me. Thiney's not that excited for this one, though. Yeah, he's like, should have been just a plain white T, like, world. Stanley only gets excited for, like, content that, like, he knows the chicks are going to like. Yeah, or he gets, you know what I mean? yeah exactly it's so true like he just thinks like all right clips tic-tok girls are on tic-tok i'm gonna get

so accurate that is not accurate bro bro it's super accurate it's so accurate bro you know it your content is based around girls it's fine i'm not mad that no nothing i'm just that's why if like fulsing golf gets like a million views like he's like i don't really want to do that because like it's just all guys watching it did you ever did you ever take you're taking any of those girls like for real from the bachelor or what yeah i did i did i'm going through it with one right now the one that one that one yeah she cut me off i wonder why why do you think your commitment issues probably yeah yeah i get that trust me sure yeah you big watch guy now that's what you do huh your watch guy now is that a new piece yeah

she cut me off i woke up drove straight to timepiece and bought this i swear to god not to sound like a douche but i needed some temporary happiness it makes sense why your content's that way too related to the girls so what's new with you anything A lot No spiritual bullshit Like just what's actually going on with you No spiritual bullshit What's actually going on with me?

Yeah Right now I'm focused on the gym In Miami So that's my main focus When's that It's probably going to be Early next year Yeah

With the first few months It's close to where you guys Are actually living So it's gonna be fun man That's sick Are you gonna move out there at all? I'll be 50-50 Yeah me too

Did you ever fight Bob? Did I fight Bob? They got in a huge argument into the baby fix it yeah full sing yeah you just always get this is just a thing well he brought well he brought someone that i mean the girl right she's so good at golf well dude we were supposed to get stony to play and that was going to be like kind of our i don't know like plan or whatever but she just totally like wiped us out in the full cent golf video oh come out soon but i got really heated off that i got to come do that that video yeah you should body builder plays

golf? Fuck. I'm not good at golf. It's a boring game. It's a boring game. I don't have a patience for it. Do you want to do a thank you to the fans? I did one.

Before the pod starts? Yeah. For what? I have. Did you not see the last one I did? No, I know. I saw it in your video. That was a, that was very, that was from the heart.

I'm not going to do it when it's not meaningful. Wait, well, what? Thank you for which part. I did a pod the day that the assassination attempt to happen. So I just said a huge thank you to Kyle. Fullside, Dana White. What did that have to do with the assassination? Oh, is Dana White, too?

No, just like the fact that it's insane that I have a relationship somewhat with him. Yeah, I see. I see. And how grateful I am to be where I'm at. And on a day goes by where I forget what these guys have done for me. Yeah. Crazy to think fucking two years ago I was living in my sister's shack. Yeah.

Nice, $25,000 a month, fucking Hollywood. Yeah, I know. That expires soon. Then we're back to the... That was not a good idea. back to the two-bed room in Venice just fuck it you see them out no no it's it's not in coming in out of that place I believe it I believe it but still like why not just buy sometimes you got to just have $25,000 is correct if you do this shit and you're

making money and you're having fun and you're not spending it and having fun with it it's not worth it I agree like I'm not like you I agree but like $25,000 is like why not just get it was only 20 whatever fuck it bought all right It's like a $5,000, excuse me, that's like a $5 million house mortgage. Four. Four, five. So it's eight on Zillow. I'm just saying.

Just, you know. Right? Do you buy that? You buy your, no. You got to buy something. Why are you not buying something? I don't. I'm just talking about just for real estate.

I just rather have that cash like more liquid. Yeah, but if you own a property, it's like, I have, I have. You could take money for, there's so many benefits to that. I have, I have 85% of what I have. You don't own a home. You don't own a home and you bought a home and, Canada. I don't know.

Bro, you need to buy a home. But, like, what's the difference between, like, having my, like, X amount of money in a house or, like, treasury bonds? I mean, you can pull directly from, like, the house value. If I want to pull out, because sometimes I, like, need, like, if I want to start something. Yeah, I get it. Or, like, even, like, Bachelor video.

You can pull it out of the, the... Way faster than liquidating, like, a house. Not even liquidating out. I'm thinking you pull up the value from the house. You can take, like, a loan against the value of the house. Yeah, but I just kind of move a little quicker. I need to move a little quicker sometimes than that. Who am I? Who am I?

Yo, I have it. I have it. No, I got him. Dude, that was, I got a lot of messages about that scene. People like that. You're acting? They loved it. I'm dead serious. I'm dead serious. I got a ton of, I know everyone was saying Brad was a great actor. A ton of people messaged me about that. You play a good agent. I could do it.

What's up guys? Hello, welcome. How's it going? Hey, John. Good to see me. Hello. What's up, guys? What's up, man? I would call me a meeting, please. How are you? How are you?

So are you guys in Vegas, or is this just a... Based in Miami. You're based in Miami. So you just came up here for this? What do you mean? Of course. We're doing you. And then we're doing also Dana White. Oh, nice. Okay. We're going to catch up with him. All right. That's exciting. But, dude, we're really appreciate you coming through.

Yeah, it's good to be here. Thank you. Future vice president of the United States. We got to win first, but thank you. Got a win. Yeah. How does this all, like, feel to you? Oh, man, it's so, it's so wild. So the biggest difference from being, because I'm a senator right now, so you're still

in government a little bit, but the biggest difference from where I was two weeks ago today is you have a Secret Service detail, which you sort of see these guys all floating around in the background. And it just totally changes everything, right? So I went for a walk with my wife this morning, and there are all of these people just walking by, like, oh, was that JD Vance? And they wouldn't have noticed me beforehand, but the reason they notice you now, is because you have like 15 people falling you around with guns and bulletproof

fest, right? So there's just, there's no, you know, we're done being anonymous basically at this stage in our lives, but we're having a good time with it. I mean, it's cool. We get to fly around our nice plan and get to meet a lot of people and we're having a good time. How is it having the Secret Service like around all the time? Well, it's weird because there's no, like I said, you're not anonymous anymore, right?

But then there are all these like weird little ways where they're just part of your lives and they're great people, right? I mean, I haven't met a secret service agent yet that I don't like. But, like, for example, a couple days ago, we were walking our dog. We were really big dog, a German Shepherd. And, you know, the dog, like, goes to the bathroom like dogs do. And I look back at the agent who was on the detail, and I'm like, is this the sort of thing you're meant to protect me from? And her eyes got real big, like, is he really asking me to pick up dog shit right now?

And, of course, I wasn't, right? I would be a totally ridiculous thing to do. But it's just, think about it. you always have somebody part of your life now that's falling you around. And that's just a totally different vibe. So the Secret Service they pick up for you? No. That's a huge perk. They probably would if you ask them to ask them to ask them to pick up after your dog. So no, I feel like if they're going to take a bullet for me, that's enough. I can handle the dog. It's pretty cool too because I feel like are you the youngest vice president to ever run? I think so. Or at least maybe not in the

history of the country, but I'm certainly like in our generation, recent history. I know I'm the first millennial to ever be on a second. I'm 39 years old. I turned 40 actually a few days, which I'm very depressed about. When's the 40th? August 2nd, which I think is Friday. What's good for the 40th?

Dang. Are you like that? Nothing anymore, man. I've got people following me around. I can't do anything fun. We've got to dinner with my wife and a bunch of friends and go swimming afterwards. That's about as much excitement as we can get into now. But it'll be good at the 40th lands on the VP run.

Yeah, that's right. Well, it's funny. All my buddies who are, you know, because we're all similar age, they all have 40th birthday parties and they're going to doing stuff fun like I actually had a couple of friends who came out to Vegas a few months ago and they're like I come out to Vegas with us and I was just like no unfortunately that phase of my life is uh is over yeah you said it's August 2nd August 2nd I don't think we're doing anything August 2nd we're we love to attend I think I'd get in a little bit of trouble hanging out with you guys on August 2nd so I should chill

by the way this is so this is like your your guys brand this is our our seltzer happy dad yeah okay nice so we just became the number four Seltzer nationwide. Oh, congratulations. We just passed Bud Light Seltzer. So you guys like started this. Started it from the ground up, yeah. Okay. Can I steal a pack? Is that all right? Yeah, we'll load, we'll load up the plane with some.

We have to be careful, though, because I can only take like $75 in gifts or something. So you have to tell me with the retail prices. Wait, that's a thing? We have to come under. Yeah, it's, you can accept small gifts, but nothing big. Huh. Yeah, so that's a thing. And as a VP or just in politics?

I think it's being a senator, actually. I don't think it's running for office. I think it's being in office. but you know I always like check it's it's one of these things where you just your life changes where you know if I go to dinner with my buddies they love it now because I always pay because I'm never really sure if they're allowed to buy me dinner right because I don't have to email a campaign lawyer to go hang out with my buddies right so I'll just pay for dinner so of course they get the most expensive wine and the most expensive thing now so it's great was got great friends was being like always a part of like your thought where you wanted to do in politics or just something that just kind of like you knew was coming or was it kind of random? No, totally random, right? So I ran for a, so I was a business guy. I started a venture capital firm and had been doing that for a while. And the home state senator where we live in Cincinnati, he dropped out, became, or I guess retired, I should say. And that was in 2021, decided to run for his seat. And that was the first time I'd ever been involved in politics. So I get elected at the end of 22 and, you know, sort of have been a senator for the past 18 months or so.

And then a few months ago, people start saying, you know, I think Donald Trump may choose you as VP. And I'm like, no way. There's no way it's going to happen. And then like a couple months later, they start doing vetting, which is a totally bizarre experience. By the whole, we could talk all the whole time about vetting. So like, for example, a lawyer comes to your house, asks you the most obtrusive questions, the most intrusive questions imaginable, right? And my wife's sitting there. We have three kids upstairs asleep.

And at one point, the lawyer is like, well, I'm going to ask some uncomfortable questions. I'm like, okay, you know, have at it. And he goes, do you have any secret family? And I'm like, are you serious? Do I have any secret family? Like, what do you mean? He said, well, sometimes people will have like, you know, another spouse and they'll have like other kids in a place like Alaska.

I'm like, dude, I've never even been to Alaska. Of course, I don't have a secret family. You're getting grilled by the lawyer and your wife at the same time. Exactly. Oh, by the way, if I did, I'm not going to admit it in front of my wife right now. Like, it's one of those questions where if you've gotten to that point of your life and you're such a dishonest person that you have a secret family in Alaska. I think that most people would just, I assume, hide it at that point.

But, you know, no, I don't have a secret family in Alaska. And it's all these just weird questions they ask. Wow. Because they want to make sure that they're prepared for the news media firestorm. So it's a pretty, pretty wild experience. How did Mr. Trump ask you to become VP? So for a couple months, you sort of knew that you were on the short list, right? So they were, you know, asking about everything you'd ever said and asking about everybody you know. Do you have family members that might say something negative they're just doing kind of a basic they call it vetting and they're trying to find out everything so i knew i was at least on the short list for a little while but the monday morning of the republican national convention that's the first day of it we fly to

milwaukee with we have three little kids seven four and two so we fly to milwaukee and i have no idea what's going on and the plane doesn't have Wi-Fi on it so it's about an hour flight and i land and i've got like 350 messages right and one of them is from somebody on the trump campaign and says hey, you know, check your phone, make sure you don't miss a call because a really important calls coming. So I'm like, oh shit, right? Either a good call or bad call, but it's an important call. And about an hour later, I get another message from the same person who says, hey, you just missed a really important call. So I'm like, oh, no. So I call Trump. And I'm like, hey, sir, what's going on? He's like, J.D., you missed a very important phone call. And now I'm going to

have to pick somebody else. And I'm, you know, I like tense up and almost have a heart attack. And the crazy thing about it is my son, who's seven, is in the hotel room with me. And he's really into Pokemon cards right now. He's going through a Pokemon phase. The new BMO ViPorter MasterCard is your ticket to more. More perks. More points. More flights.

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That's a big phase right now, I think, in general. Yeah, yeah. So, I mean, he's really into it. So he's trying to talk to me about Pikachu. And I'm on the phone with Donald Trump. And I'm like, son, shut the hell up for 30 seconds about Pikachu. This is the most important phone call in my life. Please just let me take this phone call.

And he doesn't care. He's like, who's, you know, he doesn't know what the president of the United States means. So, uh, Trump hears him and says, who is that? I'm like, that's my seven-year-old son. He's like, put him on speakerphone. And so I do. And he, he proceeds, Trump proceeds to read the statement that he's about to put out making me his VP nominee. And he asks my son, he's like, what do you think about that?

And my son's like, oh, it sounds pretty good, you know? And he goes, okay, fine. And he hangs up the phone and the statement goes out five minutes later. And then my whole life changed. and that's how it happened. Wow. Yeah. What was the initial reaction that you felt just from the people of being the nomination?

First of all, people are super supportive and excited, right? So, you know, you're at the RNC convention. There's, I don't know, 10,000, 15,000 people there. And the biggest news of the week is who's the VP nominee going to be. So as soon as it gets announced, there's just this rush of positive attention and people, you know, hugging you everybody you see is backslopping you. And that's very positive and very fun. My wife, who doesn't like love the spot.

spotlight. She's not sort of one of these people who loves politics. She doesn't seek it out. She even was kind of getting into it because people were just so nice and friendly and, you know, saying all kinds of good things. And then, you know, for a few days, I sort of joke that I got like a 24-hour honeymoon because everything goes really well. And then, of course, the media starts attacking you, which is what you sign up for and you expect it. But it's been, I mean, 95% positive. It's just been a very cool experience. Yeah. And I mean, just like you take sense he asked me to be nominee, right? So I've been in Milwaukee. I've been to Vegas. We're going to Reno today. I've been to California. I've been to Michigan. I've been to Wisconsin. I've been to Pennsylvania. I mean,

like, I've seen more in the country in the past two weeks. I just wanted to ask, when did your opinion change on Trump? Because you weren't a Trump supporter back then. And what led to that? Yeah. Yeah. So, so I, yeah, it's funny because for a long time until Biden had this big debate gaffe that blew up his whole campaign, there was this thing where the media would say, well, Biden has bad memory, but so does Donald Trump. And I'm always like, what the hell are you talking about? Donald Trump remembers an excruciating detail, everything I said about him nine years ago, right? The guy has a memory like a steel trap. I wish that his memory was like Joe Biden. But, you know, yeah, I was critical of Trump in 2015, 2016. And I think like there are a lot of

different things you could say about it, but fundamentally it boils down to two things. Number one, I didn't think he was going to be a great president. I, in fact, thought he was a really good president, like certainly the best president of my lifetime. And so when the facts change, I think thinking people should change their mind, right? Okay, I was wrong about the guy, and he was great. But there's something a little bit deeper, actually, where I kind of learned that the media is so dishonest about Trump

that a lot of the things that I thought about him in 2016 weren't just like, you've got to change your mind. It's just outright that was false. So, for example, I don't know if you guys remember this, but there was this thing that happened in Charlottesville where white supremacists killed this girl in a very tragic situation. And the media said, well, Trump stood up for the white supremacist. And there was a time of my life where I would have believed the media what they said about it. And then you go and read the transcript of what he actually said. And it's like, wait a second, he actually condemned the white supremacist.

He never said that there were very good people on both sides. what he said is that some of the protesters were good people, not like the white supremacists who murdered this girl. And you realize so much of what the media says about this guy is totally dishonest. I think once you accept that frame of mind, you start to think for yourself a little bit. And when I started doing that, I started realizing, one, he's a good president, but two, he's just not the guy. He's not the scary person the media makes him out to be. Yeah, this is like the most sort of concerning thing, I think, as just a person in general, specifically in the United States is like where do you actually trust and what do you actually

trust because there's so much backing from big companies big tech where it's like they're invested in one side winning versus the other side losing and it just becomes this really weird space where you're like what is actually real and you yourself even admit to seeing something some way and just taking it for what it was and seeing a change my question for you is like as this all progresses like for example this currently you try to google the attempt assassination on Donald Trump and it doesn't even come up crazy yeah and it's like that's one of the most concerned things it's crazy it's it's like you type in assassination of TRU yeah it doesn't auto complete trump yeah happened two weeks ago and then you look at the biggest donors for like the other side we're talking about as far as like the

biden harris campaign and it's like google is one of their biggest donors yep so and that's public that's public oh yeah yeah that's all real is the biggest donor to the democrat oh and their employers are huge huge donors of the democrats i mean it's i i have i know friends who work there I know friends who involved in the tech sector. Google is a straight up insane company. The people, the senior leadership, the people who run the search algorithms, it is effectively a left-wing propaganda machine.

And there are all these other ways you come up to, sorry to interrupt you, like this was a thing that I like a couple years ago when I was doing my Senate campaign, somebody said, type in, go in Google, can a man get pregnant? And I was like, why would I do that? You know, I know the answer to that question.

He's like, just go do it. You type in Google. I don't know if this is still true, but it was true two years ago. Can a man get pregnant? And the first search result is, yes, a man can get pregnant. In fact, it happens more often than people think. What the fuck? Yeah.

It's a weird company, but it actually, you realize it controls the flow of information in our country. But that's what's scary, because, like, most people are not going to do, like, any sort of research are looking in deeper, and they just take it for face value. So it's just kind of like, where do we go from here as technology advances and as, like, that sort of side of things just becomes more and more powerful. like how do we actually know what's real? Well, that's a good question, man. I think part of it is you have to accept if you're a consumer of information that everybody's trying to sell you something, right?

And you can't just assume because you go in and Google something, it's true. And you can't assume because you go and watch something at YouTube or go and watch something. I mean, even a rumble, like, you have to sort of think for yourself and you have to assume that somebody's trying to filter their own bias and put it into something that you're consuming.

and that's kind of the attitude that I take towards news and you just have to as much as possible think for yourself I actually think it's better now than it was five years ago because yeah Google's still crazy but now people are watching podcasts like yours I mean millions of people watch your podcast right so just this this movement of people thinking for themselves I think is a much bigger deal

and has changed the way we consume information and we just have to keep on going down that pathway being skeptical thinking for yourself consuming alternative sources of information. And I, that's probably how you break the fever. But it is a problem, right? Let me give you another example of Google, right? So what do you think is the biggest email client in the world? It's probably Gmail. In fact, I'm almost certain it's email. I use Gmail. So I'm not criticizing. But one of the main ways we fundraise for political campaigns in our country, I don't know how they do it in Canada, but you, you send text messages,

right? Or you send emails. Well, let's say that Google filtered 90% of the Republican fundraising emails into spam, but only filter 10% of the Democrat fundraising emails into spam. Well, the Democrats are going to raise way more money. That's not hypothetical. That is exactly what happened. In fact, I've actually, we've tried to file a lawsuit against Google to try to get that changed, but there are all of these weird subtle ways where Google and companies like it try to control the flow of information. And I think the long-term solution, just one more thing on this, is we have to promote a culture of technology innovation where new companies can take on the big guys. Because in Silicon Valley, the big tech companies, they're all crazy, right? They're all

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This is my favorite healthy snack. It's on me all the time. Amazon.com, board jerky. Get back on the pod. Is it going to be harder this time around for, like, Google and those companies to pull the stuff that they did last election cycle? That's a good question. I don't know. I think it probably is harder because people are just much more skeptical of accepting the narrative. I see this a lot in college campuses. In 2016 and 2020, there was a real fear of people. They didn't want to be ostracized. They didn't want to be ostracized. want to say what was actually on their mind. They were a little bit terrified of the social pressure. I just think people give much less shit about it than they did four years ago and certainly than eight years ago. And I do think that is empowering, right? Courage is contagious. And the more that people, again, trust their own instincts and consume their own information,

I think that it empowers the truth to come out a little bit more. But I won't present the bias isn't there. But I think it's probably less powerful than it was a few years ago. I think people have just seen, too, over the past four years, what a shit show it's been. and how bad Biden's been. I know Brad, you tweeted about it too, right? How everyone's kind of coming out of the woodwork now and supporting Trump. I remember when we had them on our podcast near the last election. I watched.

That was a good episode. We got a lot of shit for it. And now it's just completely different where everyone in our community and space is like now supporting Trump. And like it's just crazy to see how much, you know, everyone's kind of flipped, which is a good thing. Yeah, it is a good thing. And I think especially, I mean, you guys are probably in your 20. early thirties i just turned 30 uh wait hold on brad are you are you older i'm 35 yeah okay okay okay well you said a shot at me no i got the VP writer you're trying to take shot no no i was too

my bad come on man all right together my bad it's 90s 32 right this is the guy who buys you beer when you guys yeah he's been that guy for a while don't you tell me how old you are around 30 but so so what what i think is is definitely true for like young americans especially and i'm I'm 39. So people call 39-year-old geriatric millennials because we're millennials, but we're sort of on the older side of the millennial generation. I do think, like, look, if you want to buy a home, it's got a hell a lot harder to do that under the Kamala Harris-Joe Biden administration, right? If you want to sort of take a vacation, it's gotten a lot more expensive. If you just want to live in a safe community, that's gotten harder because there's more drugs coming across.

People, you know, believe their own eyes more than they believe that the narrative, the media sells. And I don't know how Kamala Harris can look at the country and say, look, things are way better than they were four years ago. She just can't do that. Yeah, it's interesting. Were you surprised by the way things played out with that, or did you guys see it coming? You know, a little bit, like, it's funny, the president was, meaning President Trump was way less surprised about it than I was, and I think his campaign was way less surprised about it. I mean, because again, I knew I was being vetted. And I remember talking to somebody in his campaign in early June. And this was even before the debate debacle, and she was like, look, we think there's a really good chance that if

you get picked, you're not going to be debating Kamala Harris. You're going to be debating whoever Kamala Harris chooses, because we don't think Joe Biden can survive. The poll numbers were just so bad. He's just so bad that they didn't think he would make it to November. And they were right, of course. So, I mean, I was just, it's kind of shocking when it happens, even when you expect it to happen. So I guess I expected to happen, but I was still surprised when he actually pulled the truth. He's the president of the United States. Think about this. And, and, And he just sent a letter out one day and said, I'm not running for president anymore. That's never happened in the lifetime of any person in this room.

Yeah. Also like, yeah, is that even legal? Like the way that, because I'm reading a bunch of, it's weird, it's, I'm reading a bunch of stuff. And it's like, didn't they just bypass, they're supposed to be the party for democracy. Yes. And they kind of just bypass, this is a very important boy. Yeah. I agree.

They bypass like the total democratic process. Well, because they, they sit on a side and they say, you know, Donald Trump is against democracy. Yeah. And, but they're also now, they, they, they, they held someone law. enough to pass up where they could actually vote for a new kind of like nominee and then they just picked who they wanted so there's actually no democracy in that not at all and 14 million people look it's not my party and I wouldn't have voted for him but 14 million people voted for him to be the nominee of the Democrat party yes how many people voted for Kamala Harris to be the nominee

of the Democrat Party none zero right not a single person so it's funny they accuse me of Donald Trump of being threats to democracy like Trump is the most popular person in the party he still ran through the primary process because that's what you have to do right you have to persuade voters that you're the guy. That's kind of how this system works. And I, look, basically what happened is Barack Obama, the Clinton family and a few billionaires, got in a room together and said, hey, this guy's political dead weight. Let's throw him overboard. And that's really creepy if you think about it. But then you realize he's the president of the United States. And it kind of makes you question, what is the real power center in this country?

if a few billionaires and a few unelected officials can throw the president overboard. I think, you know, I've tried to make this argument to Democrats is, look, if you are uncomfortable by how this process shaked out and you feel kind of insulted as a voter, vote for Republicans, you may not agree with this on everything, but at least in our party, we believe you should have to persuade people not try to run this corrupt process in the background.

It's weird how it's always the, it's weird, I don't know, it's like they're, you know, these are the bad people, but they're doing the bad things. That's right. And it's interesting. You know what I've noticed. It is interesting. For the younger people, too, for like the younger voters, what I've noticed is how big social media is played.

Yeah. You said you're a millennial. Yeah. So have you noticed? Has that been better for you playing in the social media? Because what I noticed, too, is whenever you go on TikTok, you scroll three times you see Joe Biden falling, falling off his bike. You only see negative things, right? Yeah.

So anything you say now can get clipped up. That's right. So has that played a role for you? Yeah, it has. I mean, you know, I think just instinctively I understand social media a little bit better because I, you know, I come from, I'm sort of the generation of social media. You know, Facebook became a really big thing. I was in the Marines, but towards the end of my Marine Corps career and then as I got into college. And so I think we use it more. Like I don't, I don't, you know, most politicians, they have a staff member who sort of runs their Twitter. I don't do that. Like I just put it, whatever, I guess it's X now. But I just put whatever I want to on X. And sometimes I get in trouble for it. But I just think it's much more important to be unfiltered and to be like a real human being. You're going to make mistakes sometimes, but real humans make mistakes.

But I do think our engagement is a lot higher because of it. And, you know, this was one thing that came out of the, because I'm not a big TikTok guy and we're starting to try to use TikTok. But not my account, but there was a ton of TikTok activity that was positive in the Milwaukee convention because I took my kids for a walk in downtown Milwaukee. Right. And I, do you guys know this movie for getting Sarah Marshall? with Russell Brand. It's like one of my planning of the day.

It's one of my favorite movies of all time. So I'm walking downtown Milwaukee. It's a great movie. Sorry. He's lying about watching it today. Are you an anti-for-geting ceremony?

No, I love it, but I think he's making that up that he watched it today. That's all. I'm sorry. I recently just went through a break-up. Okay. So.

He watched it with his acts, yeah. Yeah. Oh, sorry, man. Sorry to bring up bad. Hopefully, hopefully this interview will help me get her back. I hope you're doing okay. Let me know if I can help.

So Russell Brand is the rock star. and forgetting Sarah Marshall, I'm walking downtown Milwaukee with my three little kids, and Russell Brand comes in the other direction. It's like one of the few times I've ever been starstruck in my whole life. My favorite line of that movie is, take my eyes, not the shirt. You know what I'm talking?

Yeah, Jonah Hill. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, that, but that interaction got a ton of viral content on TikTok. And so, yeah, we try to use it. And even when we don't try to use it, I think we benefit from it because, you know, I'm not falling off my bike or falling down the stairs. And I think it makes, like, the younger audience, It's way more relatable with you, Trump, than like the Democratic Party.

I think so. And the thing that Republicans we really do have going for us is because we're so sick of being filtered and we're so sick of being told what we're allowed to say and what we're allowed to think is Republicans are just much more comfortable with humor, right? Trump is, I mean, all these great leadership qualities. I love the guy. But he's also just funny as shit for sure. One of the funniest guys.

Oh, I mean, absolutely, right? You spend time with Trump. You're like, oh, my God, this dude is off the chart. It's funny. He's so funny. And, I mean, like, I'll tell you his story. So, again, my wife doesn't love the spotlight. We're doing this fundraiser for Trump in my hometown of Cincinnati.

And, you know, raise them a lot of money. And then you do photos. The way these fundraisers always work is you do a line of photos. And, you know, we finally, like, my wife and I are the last people in line. And he gives Usha big hug. He's like, ooh, she looks so beautiful. I'm so glad to see you. And then he's like, what do you think about politics?

And she gives this super diplomatic answer. She's like, well, sir, you know, J.D. really believes in it. and he really believes in public service and I'm glad to be supportive of him and he looks at her and says, yeah, my wife hates it too. And it's just, you know, he's got a natural humor to him

that I do think makes him much more relatable. For sure. Yeah. Like is Kamala Harris funny? No. Right? She's just not. Uh-uh.

But her laugh sucks too. Yeah. Well, yeah, more than that, it makes me, you know, it's like, makes you feel kind of creeped out a little bit, right? Like, why is she, Why is she laughing at the things that she laughs at? But yeah, Trump is just, he's got a good sense of humor

and that helps him, I think, politically. What's the worst things about Kamala Harris? I just reminded me when you said laughing, like she's laughing about not going to the border and all those interviews, which is just weird. What do you think, like, to our audience, like, what are the main scary things about Kamala Harris becoming president? One is, okay, I don't actually think Kamala Harris,

like, if you want to do this job, you have to actually, you should care about public policy. right like policy makes people's lives better and I've never seen an interview with Kamala Harris where I'm like oh she really cares about this thing and she really wants to do this thing to make people's lives better like I just don't think I think she just doesn't actually care that much about the details and that's not the kind of president you want you know my thing my biggest issue because I think it's transformative in a bad way for the country is like you can't let 25 million people in your country illegally with no control the drug cartels have taken over

you've got record amounts of people dying of fentanyl which we know the drug cartels are bringing in all these problems with the border she is the borders are and she hasn't done anything about it right so if your job is to secure the southern border and you've been in power for three and a half years and you didn't do shit you don't get a promotion you should get fired right and I think that's a big big part of what's wrong with her entire campaign is she's sort of trying to run away from the Biden record because she knows it's not popular but you were the vice president clearly these guys like practically brain dead. Clearly you were the person driving the ship here and you were as vice president and you own a lot of these failures. But I mean, they're a little thing. We can talk for

so long about some of these issues, but you know, I'm a big believer that we have to like build more stuff in America. Like I come from a manufacturing town. We've got to make more stuff. If you want to make more stuff, you have to have a low cost energy. Well, she wants to destroy the American energy economy in the name of green energy, which is just going to ship manufacturing to China, which is the dirtiest economy in the world. So if you actually care about clean air and clean water, which I do, you don't want to ship manufacturing to China. You want to bring it home, but her policies have the exact opposite outcome. So just a whole host of things she's wrong on the policy. If something the media doesn't pick up on that I think should become a bigger

issue is staff turnover goes to whether you can get good people to work in your government, right? The presidency is too big for any one person. You make the big decisions, but you need people to work for you. She has 92% staff turnover. Wow. How can you staff a government if 92% of the people who work for you don't want to work for you? That's a bad thing. Meaning people are like quitting the administration?

Is there any... During the last four years? People who work for her, correct. 92% turnover. Has there been any rationale or why that's happened? You know, I've heard different stories and I don't put much stock in what I read in the media. I mean, what I've heard is that she's just like yells at people a lot. She's mean. She's kind of insecure and you combine insecure with mean. Like you can do one of those two

things maybe and be a decent boss, but you can't do both of them. But I don't know. I just know that the data is the data and she has really bad staff turnover. But we need good people. Like I'm a Republican. I don't want her to win. But if she wins, you need good people to actually work in the government. And I think it's going to be a problem if she wins. Going back to X, wanted to ask, what's your relationship with Elon Musk? Yeah. So, you know, I knew it back in my tech days. I knew Peter Tew. is a very good friend of mine and Peter and Elon

sort of got their start in Silicon Valley together and so I kind of knew Elon a little bit through Peter and then Elon not all that different for me has had a bit of a political awakening

over the last few years I think like a lot of us is just looking around and saying this is too crazy what happened to common sense and I think that's why he bought X like I actually think it was

you know who knows if he'll ever make any money over it but he wanted to buy to ensure that there was actually a place for free speech on the internet. And he believed that was important because he recognized that people's opinions were being censored by the Googles and the Facebooks of the world. So I, you know, I don't know him super well, but I, you know, we hang out. We texts every now and then and, you know, we sort of bounce ideas. He's a very funny guy.

I don't think the people, the media realizes this, but something about Elon that I care about. I don't know if anybody else cares about it, but one of my big things is, I think, way too much of the modern economy is kind of fake. Like, if you look at Google, like, what is Google's actual business? Google sells digital advertisements based on the search results, right? What is Facebook's business model to sell digital advertisements based on how people use Facebook? Elon is building rockets that go to the moon and Mars, right? He's building a real business.

And I just, I love that you have an entrepreneur like that who's kind of in the old American model of like Howard, cues of, I'm going to build really cool shit that goes to space. And I think it's really inspiring to people that he's not just like trying to sell targeted ads to a smaller and smaller slice of the country. He's trying to build big things. He's building, whether it's solar panels or electric cars or rockets or he's trying to connect the entire world through satellite internet. He's just doing a lot of cool stuff. And it's harder to do that stuff because you've got to deal with regulators in Washington and people come after you. But I think it's much more productive and it's it's a lot cooler i have a question about uh just just obviously you know

running and being in politics do you take what sometimes the media says about you personally like i don't know if you saw that there was like a whole clip of like people calling you weird did you see that um it was like a i certainly know the kamala campaign wants to call me weird yeah but i'm wondering why that word and because like it was on like it was like clipped on like a thousand different media outlets like they were all using the same word yeah i mean i i i i I don't know if it's like something they focus grouped and decided to push on us. I mean, like I'm a pretty normal guy.

I've got a wife and kids and I like to hang out and, you know, watch football and I care about this stuff because I care about the country. Yeah. My attitude on this is my best guess, this is just a total guess, is that her campaign has run by a lot of like 24 year old social media interns who maybe were bullied in school. And so now they've decided they're going to do that the same thing. They're going to take that like attitude of the middle school social scene and try to a campaign on it. I just don't think most Americans buy it or care. But they're certainly pushing it.

I'm certainly aware of it. But my attitude is like, I'm just going to be who I am. And if they want to attack me for whatever they're going to attack me on, that's fine. You just got to kind of power through it and do your thing. Yeah. She's been attacked for a lot too. Yeah. I mean, it's funny. It's like the people who call me weird want to give like hormone therapies and sterilized nine year olds. Like, I think it's a lot weirder. Oh, man. You know, me just like living a normal life with my kids and my wife, but this is what they do, I think, is they latch on to a message and they try to sell it even if it's fake. And I think, you know, again, to go back to something Trump said, where we were talking about Trump earlier is Trump's superpower in politics is he just doesn't give a shit, right?

He doesn't care what they say about him. He's going to be himself. He's going to tell jokes. He's going to say things that drive some people off a wall, but then we actually listen to what he said. He's like, oh, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. I think that you just, if you're going to be in politics in the social media age, you've got to kind of have a thick skin and just do what you need to do. And they'll dig up anything from your history. I've learned that the hard way the last few days, man. Let's see how much sugar is in the leading hard iced teas. The competition has 20 grams of sugar per can and there's 12 cans in a case, which comes to 240 grams. Let's measure that. So that's 69 sugar cubes per case. Instead, happy dad, hard iced tea has one

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It all comes from culture. And it's like, we all know this, right? Men and women, yeah, some of our differences are cultural. Some of our differences are just basic biology, right? And I think they're so uncomfortable with that, they try to biologically change men into women and women into men, because if you can get rid of the biological differences, then you can kind of get rid of all the other differences, too. And I mean, I think you guys, you know, you guys know Tucker Carlson, right? Yeah. Yeah. So Tucker and I have talked a lot about this, but, you know, men and women being different to me is not like a bad thing. It's a source of one of the coolest parts about being like a living, breathing human being in the world, right? Is women think about

stuff slightly differently than men do. And that is, that is a good thing. And we shouldn't try to destroy those differences in the name of equality. We should give women and men equal opportunity and equal chances. Yeah. But sometimes people are going to make different choices, right? And that's okay. And because men and women make different choices, that's like not an excuse to sterilize kids to try to turn a girl into a boy or vice versa. But that's what they're doing. And I mean, the tell on this stuff, like I really didn't care about this stuff until a few years ago. I maybe being a father changes your mind a little bit on this stuff. But the tell for me was when they started saying, well, this stuff is totally reversible.

If you give hormonal therapies to a nine-year-old kid, that is not totally reversible. I mean, these kids have like bladder problems and other stuff that's just gross. And why are we doing this to our kids without any real confidence in the science? It makes you realize, frankly, a lot of the public health establishment in this country is pretty deranged. And it's also a whole other, like, I don't think people even recognize this. it's a whole other like a revenue source for the pharmaceutical industry where it's like they're making it like I forget what the word is when you can get your insurance to pay for something where it's like if it's a life you like you need it yeah they're making like it becomes

reimbursable exactly yes so it's like people don't even recognize that dark where now it's yes yes that's the exact right word for it's dark I mean dude like one of the things I actually agree with at least the old school left on is you got to be careful about when big corporations use financial incentives to control the government, right? Like, you don't want people getting rich because they passed a law. You want people getting rich because they make products that people need, right? So this is always a criticism that the old left made about American health care is you don't want to force doctors to give people something just because it's going to make

some pharmaceutical company rich, right? That doesn't make any sense. And yet, we right now are giving kids hormonal therapies, pharmaceutical companies are making billions of dollars off of this shit. And none of us are looking around and say, well, wait a second. Is this good because they're making money off of it? Or is it good because it's actually in the best interest of these kids? And that is something, again, the Democratic Party of 30 years ago would have went wild over this

because it's money intersecting with medicine in a way that's really bad for human beings. And now the only people talking about it are Republicans. You know, it's weird. I saw Gavin Newsom passed that bill recently about how if a kid wants to become trans at school, don't have to tell the parents. Which is sick. Which I blew my mind to even hear something like that. Yeah.

Yeah, which is sick because, I mean, like, all of us have been teenagers before. All teenagers go through awkward phases where they don't exactly know what their place is. Yeah. You know, people go through emo phases or they, you know, they dye their hair black. Like, every kid goes through some developmental phase where they're confused. And what this weird movement is doing is encouraging people to, like, latch on to their insecurities, not tell their parents about them, right? And then I haven't confirmed this, so check my facts here.

But I've also heard that in California, like, if you're a parent and you think maybe it's a little crazy to give your 12-year-old hormonal therapies, you can be at risk of having your kids taken away. Like, I'm a father of three. That would make me go absolutely, like, we're moving to the hills, keep your hands off my kids, this is crazy town. But also another level to that is in that bill that you, you're talking about passing this like you know it's the gender affirming care they don't have to tell the parents

so the kids are just talking to some random adult about how they feel a certain way and like that's even beyond what you're saying even more concerning because it's like that human being could have completely different biases yeah so they're going to input them on whoever the kid is telling them like how I feel and not just biases I don't trust some stranger to talk to my kid about their their their sex and their gender like I don't period whether it's that or just the normal shit it's like why are you just not talking to kids about fucking math and yes exactly school shit yeah and by the way

we're falling behind in math and reading so we you know our leaders are trying to convince our teachers to talk to kids about gender reassignment when they're 12 years old meanwhile we don't do math as good as we used to we don't do reading as good as we used to maybe we should focus on the shit that schools are actually supposed to teach

kids again it's so common sense right yeah and by the way that's their view is that we should be teaching kids gender reassignment and they think that we're weird doesn't make lot of sense. Do you see all the Olympic stuff? That was bizarre. Oh, man, a ceremony should. That was so weird. It's just a slap in the face to Christians and

anybody who has, I would say, aesthetic sense, right? It wasn't just weird. I watched this thing and, you know, like, you want the Olympic opening ceremony to be beautiful, right? You want it to like elevate the human spirit and it's just this creepy thing where people are dressed up as these little nymphs doing the last, I was grossed out my house. Some guys balls were, like, what's the purpose, though? Is it just like, do you think they do it to cause, like,

we know this is probably going to get, like, more attention? Yes, I think they do it to cause shock. And that's why I try to just ignore this stuff. Like, I saw the Olympics opening ceremony for a couple of minutes. I turned it off. I tried not to think about it anymore. But yeah, this is the thing that, you know, I feel like art, the idea of art in its best form, right?

And I'm not like an art guy. The first time ever went to an art museum, I think it was when my wife made me go. But at its best, right, it's uplifting the human spirit. It's showing you beautiful things. It's making you think of what's possible. Whatever this is, it's not that, right? It's just shocking people to try to draw attention,

which maybe works for social media clicks, but I think it makes our whole society a lot darker. I know you're against like a lot of wars and stuff. Yeah. What was it like when you were serving in Iraq? Yeah, I mean, so I went into the Marine Corps in 2003. And so my grandma had six grandkids and three of us enlisted in the United States Marine. So it became kind of a family tradition thing.

And I wasn't an infantryman. So I, you know, like the grunts, as we called them, had much more like direct access to danger than we did. And what, you know, in Iraq, what was so weird about it, like the two things that really stuck out is, you know, sometimes you're just like hanging out and mortar or rocket fire starts raining down. And you've got a shelter in place. And you're like, what the hell are we actually doing here? you know, shouldn't we go out and, like, get the guys who were shooting rockets at us rather than just sort of, you know, go hide in a bunker every time they fire? That was one thing.

The second thing that was really weird is I did, they had me do security for the Iraqi poll workers because you guys were probably too young to remember this, but 2005 was the big Iraqi parliamentary elections. And you remember, like, where people stuck their fingers in the ink and then raised their purple finger to show that they had voted. We were doing security for those poll workers. And what was so weird about it is a lot of American leaders had convinced themselves that we were there for democracy. We were there to bring democracy to Iraq. And even the poll workers didn't give a shit about democracy, right?

They just wanted to live in a safe place. Like they were pissed at America, but they weren't pissed in America because we were, you know, more socially progressive than they were. You know, we gave rights to gay people. Like, that's not why they were pissed at America. They were pissed at America because we were the strongest country in the world and we couldn't keep car bombs from blowing up in their market. markets and they were just pissed off about it. And I kind of realized like all this high-minded bullshit you hear from American leaders about spreading democracy to the world. If we actually want to help the world, we should make it safer and have there be less killing. That is the

best influence America can have in the world. And by the way, that is a huge difference between Donald Trump and Kamala Harris. Like Kamala Harris wants to send state department dollars to people to do like trans pride parades overseas. Right. It's like my attitude is if you want to do a trans Pride Parade, that's your business, but why do American tax dollars have to fund this stuff? Donald Trump's attitude is, I want to use American power to try to bring peace to the world. That sounds a hell of a lot smarter to me. Yeah, the foreign policy stuff, like, I just feel like Trump does such a good job with that, with like dealing with all the world leaders.

And right when Biden came into office, obviously the Ukraine, Russia stuff started. Iran's getting out of control. The Israel stuff started, right? They attacked, you know, killed what, over a thousand people. It's like every hot spot in the world became a war zone, and Donald Trump had it under control. This is, by the way, like one thing that the liberals, like, they're just wrong about it. This is not a statement of opinion. This is a statement of fact.

I've sat in classified briefings, and I'm not going to give anything away. I'm like, you know, give state secrets away here. I don't want the police to knock down the door. But world leaders were terrified of Donald Trump, right? And there's something to be said for actually having a little bit of fear in people, right? It created deterrence. Of course. They were terrified that if they did something crazy,

Trump would whack the shit out of them, and that kept a lot of bad people in line. That is a fact. And when liberals say that Donald Trump's foreign policy was erratic, well, if his foreign policy was erratic, why did we have so much fewer war all over the world? It doesn't make an ounce of sense. Yeah, I was at the RNC, too.

And one thing that was really tough to watch was when they brought all the Gold Star families on stage. And I obviously knew what a shit show the Afghanistan pullout was, but just hearing it from those families was like really heartbreaking to hear all that stuff. It's so heartbreaking. And, you know, these are really like the best of us. Well, I started in the Marine Corps. I heard a colonel give a eulogy for a Marine of his who was killed.

And he put it in this way that I thought was, because he's like a tough guy, but he put it in this way that I thought was really, really beautiful. He said, the people who go and die for our country, they're not the kids who didn't have opportunities. they're the smartest, the best-looking, the most patriotic. They're the very best of us. And losing 13 of those kids for nothing, just because a pure stupidity from our leadership is the most,

it's maybe the most ridiculous mistake of the Biden administration. And Kamala Harris ought to own it, but of course she doesn't. And just how he never mentioned their names. And during the ceremony, he's like looking at his watch. Like it's just, it's actually like hard to believe. It's really sick. It's really sick. And you realize, like, the guy, you know, Biden, people try to say he's a great guy.

I don't know him super well. I do not think Biden is a great guy. I actually think Biden is a bad dude. And we're just seeing him sort of fall into, you know, mental disrepair. But he was never a good dude. He was always what you see, the kind of guy who lets people die and then doesn't mention their name and stares at his watch when you're trying to memorialize these guys. That's just, unfortunately, who he is. I think you've got to get going to this rally, which I think we're going to come with you.

But one more question. Who do you think that is going to be the VP on the other side? I don't know, man. You know, there's a lot of rumor that's going to be this guy, Tim Walts, who's a governor from Minnesota. I don't know anything about him. He seems really angry. There's a lot of talk that's going to be this guy, Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania, who, you know, I've seen this couple clips of him talking. He talks like Barack Obama.

it's like if I did try to do a really bad impression of Barack Obama that's what it would sound like is this guy Josh Shapiro from Pennsylvania go watch a clip of his and tell me if you agree with me and then there's a bunch of other names out there my attitude is it doesn't really care as much as this is it doesn't really matter

as much as this it hit to my ego people are going to vote primarily for Donald Trump or for Kamala Harris that's the way these things go and I think my job over the next few months is to just drive home the message that Kamala Harris has been a bad vice president she'd be a worst president and that's that's the message i want to take to the american people

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