FULL SEND PODCAST - Joe Burrow x Nelk Boys | Ep. 43

Episode Date: May 18, 2022

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We want out. We want out. We want out. We want out. All right. Here we are. We are. We're at Jeff Rubies in Cincinnati, Ohio. We got a big guest today. We got a big guest today. I showed up here with slippers on from the hotel. I had no socks when I came here. I did my eye drops, my chapstick. Got all my stuff from CVS. This is a big episode of Punt. Bro doesn't do a lot of stuff. It's crazy.

How did you? So shout out to Bob. Big guys. Well, I mean, I got to ship me last time because of the Walberg thing and all that. So I got to step up now. So how did you put it off? This is a big one, though. Shout out to Bob. Well, I mean, Joe originally was no, no, no, no, no, no.

And finally I just fired off again. And he was like, all right, let's do it. Persistent. He's the fucking man for this. So sometimes your strategy works, bro. I think sometimes the strategy works. I'll never change my strategy. Yeah, Aaron.

I don't know what you learned in camp, camp mentoring. We keep pushing. All right. We may lose a couple along the way. Like Walberg and them. True. But it does work. Like, you just annoy the fuck out of him pretty much, right?

I know the fuck out of him. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I just want this guy to shut up. Yep. But I also saw him in, he was a... Then they look at the views, and they're like, oh, shit, you know what? This is actually pretty dope. Well, they look at the views and they see who else we've done on the show, too, which is good.

And that's why, you know, in order to get really big guests, we talk about all the time. It's like, we just got to have sometimes safe, brand friendly names. Joe's, I think, one of them. Is our second NFL guy? A.B. and now Joe? Not a bad lineup, right? Not a bad lineup at all. So I'm excited.

And I think this place is haunted, too, by the way. It's haunted? I don't know. We're supposed to be showing them love, and you're calling the place haunted. No, but it's, like, in a good way, haunted. You come here and you eat and this ghost fucking floating around or something, because I just went to the bathroom upstairs. I think there was a ghost in there.

I'm not joking. Really? No, this is good fellow's vibes, bro. This is lit, yeah. I mean, I love. I just ate the steak, by the way. Joe has his own steak named after him here. There's a steak here.

It's what it's called the borough steak. The burrow steak, right? Burrow steak, yeah. Burrow steak, yeah. You had that? They're going to bring it out. They're going to bring it out during the show, I think. Muck some steak?

They're going to bring you just cheese plate. That's it. I told them no steak. That's all I want. Perfect. You know? You're a big NFL guy though, right? Yeah.

So you should be pretty dialed. Aren't you? Yeah. Is that what you started with your clips going viral? Bob is made for the NFL ones, man. Like, when we did AB, Bob the whole day, it was just be like, yo, this is going to be everywhere and shit. What was?

He didn't want to leave anywhere because he wanted to stay by a TV because he thought is going to be posted on ESPN. Yeah. It was. So he was just glued. No, immediately it wasn't. It actually wasn't on the TV. How many times did you hit up Shephti to post it?

Oh, I hit up Jimmy Pitaro, President of ESPN multiple times. I hit up Shepter, multiple times, which is your connect that you introduced me to, which is a great connection. Everybody. I think that's what's good about the pod, too, is we got a versatile squad, even with Salim can step in. Like, you know, each interview is different for different people and shit, which is cool. And you're now posting, Kyle's all into this hockey stuff now. You've always been a hockey guy.

Yeah, well, it's playoff, so it's Leaves. Right. And, like, it was a good season. Mm-hmm. So the Leaves haven't won a cup. You know that since, what, 1967 gambles? Yeah. They haven't made it out of the first round of the playoffs since 2004.

Well, when are we going to get some hockey guys on here, then? We got to get Austin Matthews. He'd be a great one. We can get a few guys. But I'm going to go to the game right after this. I'm going to fly to Tampa. Game 6. If the Leaves win, they advance.

And then I got to beat in a. LA tomorrow for a 930 tea time to golf with Trump With who? Trump You're playing with President Trump? Yeah Wow

I thought you set that up You know They'll take credit for it Well They just reached out Yeah yeah I mean Listen this is just It's just what it is

That's amazing You can't You have to be on time Ready to go What are the stakes though Because you know We play Kately and Jennifer Something big

You gotta play for something big I don't think he plays for shit Yeah but he'll play for prop shit We'll ask him I'll ask him tomorrow He plays for something You gotta fucking win dude I think he cheats

He's known to cheat in golf I think Well They're about even on that Yeah, Kyle definitely dumps a couple balls Fixing lies When we play Scramble You're allowed to fix your lie

There's always new rules When you play with this one club way Did I cheat when I made you wear a skirt To the Derby or what? No, that you didn't cheat Exactly You're one and O in hot prophets You're great to play with

Because then it's like All right if he's gonna fucking do this I'm in listen and Scramble You gotta sometimes utilize the foot wedge You know All right Who else is playing? Bob

I think one of you guys Got to come to the game with me tonight I can't do it Because you know And then there's a nice JetBlue Mint Lye Flats Right in the morning. Oh, really?

Yes. Man, oh, man. What else you have going on? I got this photo shoot for summer. It's happening right now? Yeah. Business, bro. Apparently, I think all the football guys are going to the game, too.

Nice. They're all going to the game, then they're all going to summer's photo shoot. I think I'm going to be football and traveled out after this podcast, to be honest with you. I always got to try to convince Bob a little bit, you know? Yeah. Well, you know, always at the end of a podcast, we're always, like, jazzed up a little bit. So, you know, things could change.

But... Gabe, there are flights available, though, if I want to get on the plane? Yeah. Huh. Maybe. Who got you tickets tonight, Austin? No, I actually just put on my story, because I wanted to get a box. Because, like, I don't know how hectic it's going to be just going in the fucking stands.

Hockey's, like, our demo, too. Yeah, you're fucked if you go in the regular shit. That's why everybody's like, oh, you don't sit with, like, regular shit. With you guys, you can't. You'll get mob. Yeah. I've seen it firsthand. It's the most annoying, crazy thing in the world.

Patrick Maroon got us five tickets. Nice. He's expecting you there, so. Is he? he's always asking about you this is such a lie I swear you know hockey players love Bob bro if you go to that

if you look at the Toronto Maple East too they love solid good guys I'm looking like some of them follow knellke boys they all follow Bob the whole Matthews doesn't like you but well that's because I had another one I do with Austin I zing them I zing Matthews too much I know I'm in Austin's bad list but yeah you're in I'm sure if like we sit down together we can fix this

yeah maybe so maybe we'll sit that episode out it's all right you know now Maroon loves you though if I had to sit out Matthew I would fire back it would be like Austin Matthews like Bob you gotta sell that episode a big alright fine I'll like Kyle I got Kim Jong-un and Vladimir Putin ready to go next episode so

so what game is this seven game six three two three two leaps so if they win and just like dude it's they're not winning on the road for Toronto they might you never know but if Toronto starts like advancing we all got to go post up in Toronto for a bit it's gonna be for the parade I mean even if they just go on a run the city's gonna

going to be bazaing. Really? Yeah. Toronto's late. Got to go, bro. Yeah, we got to get your passport. Like, let's be ready. We can get that, bro.

What's good about Toronto, though? Like, what's dope about it? I mean, it's the third biggest city in North America. Third or fourth. So it's like, L.A., New York, Chicago, Toronto. So it's just like, it's a big city. I mean, the chicks are fire. And you're pretty dope there, right?

The chicks are fire. How dope are you in Toronto? I mean, we're pretty plugged up in Toronto, you know? That's like your day ones, though. Yeah, I think it's like Drake, you know, with the weekend. You, Drake, weekend. We're somewhere in between, like, Tori Lane's and Nav status, you know? Maybe even honestly, Nav has his beat a little bit, so we're not that, we're not that sauce, but it's dope.

Where's Beaver from? He's from Toronto. He's from Stratford. You seem a little bit tweaked right now. Dude, I'm chilling, bro, chill. Did you find my stash of Zaps and did you accidentally take one? I might have thought it was an adorn. Did you really take an Adderall?

Yeah. Really? For focus? Yeah. Sometimes I can backfire, though, and they can get you, like, really, like, jittery and fucked up. Yeah. Adderall and chival and chival and chival and. shoe? Yeah, it's fucked up today.

Are you all right? You going through some shit that we need to talk about? No, you're good, bro. You promise? Yes. All right, you know I'm always here for you. Stop trying to turn this on me. I'm, I feel like you right now. It's fucking me up in the head, bro. I got a good night's sleep last night. I took a bubble bath, filled it all the way to the top when I got in. There's no bath in the room. Yeah, there's a bath in my room. Oh, really? They gave me a fucking bathtub. You hit the mini bar? I tried to, but it was good. The funny thing, no, the funny thing about Brett is Brett's really good about now. And I stay at hotels, there's a no mini bar policy. I didn't even realize it until I go to the

mini bar open it and there's nothing there brett empties it so it can't be used and you just get a bottle to the room and said yeah but there's some restrictions on that too so he does a good job keep me in line that's good they wait did you wake him up today no bob was up i slept in though i slept i slept i had the worst fucking nightmare of my life crazy shit people were fucking stabbing me nonstop because i watched this shit about the electric chair the night before about this guy who got the electric chair and lethal injection and death penalty and all that i was watching and I fell asleep and it must have just caused

a bunch of like crazy ass nightmares so I woke up at 2 in the morning with like cold sweats and then people were like stabbing me

people were in the room and shit it was fucked so the future is that what is that what this shit does to you or what? Is that what

is that what? I'm hungry I'm ready for some steak bro there's all in there right now just go snag some it's good oh wait for Joe

wait for Joey yeah wait for Joey yeah I think he's probably coming up right now so we saw him in old town we did

he was very well behaved he was actually He was impressed. He was sitting in the corner just chilling. People were coming up to him. He was being very respectful. Oh, you said that. Yeah.

We met him. Me, Bob, you brought me and Steve over one night. Yeah. He went and hung out at his table. It was fucking dope. Didn't you say something happened? Like. Steinie was just all on his dick.

What the fuck? No, I was not. Wasn't that when Steinie had the chains? He said. He was like, dude, I did not do that. He was fucking here. Should it drop into the ground like he didn't get? And he was like flashing his fuck.

I don't know if that song was playing. But it was, you know. I don't recall that. My man. Good to see you, sir. I'll take you in the back door. Sounds good. Yep.

What's going on? What's going on, brother? What's going to be here? You guys want me? Right there's good. We're popping. We go. We go for it.

Joe in the house. Let's go. You've been here before? Mm-hmm. Book Club on Monday. Gym on Tuesday. Date night on Wednesday. Out on the town on Thursday.

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All the time, this is my spot. They're saying there's a steak named after you here. You tried it? That's what I did. Oh, shit. So, I mean, here we are. This is pretty sick. Joel, thank you for doing this, by the way.

Yeah, I appreciate it. I mean, do you do a lot of podcasts? I don't do a lot of media stuff at all. Right. I'm kind of ducked off in my own little world for the most part. Right. What's sort of do here in like Cincinnati in, like off season? There's a lot of good food, really good restaurants.

But other than that, I kind of just stay at the house. Just chill? I don't do much. It's like a day in the life and like the off season. I'm working out in the morning, 10 to 12 usually, and then cold tub. after that, I'm playing some video games for the most part and relax and I'm not doing much. What is the point of that cold tub thing?

Why does everybody do that? What is a cold tub? A lot of health benefits. Increases metabolic rate, increases no blood flow, recovery, all that good stuff. So you sit in it and you're just, what's the point of it? You just have to sit in it for like 40. Decreases like swelling, right? Yeah, but you have to be working out to do it?

Or can I just do it? Just get the cold tub. I mean, you could do it, but you're not really recovering from anything. if you're not working out. If you're not working out. So it's pointless. It probably wakes you up too. Yeah.

Right. Definitely wakes you up. How long are you sit in that? 10 minutes. Damn. Did you ever see Joe Rogan's thing? Depends on what thing. Rogan sat in that tub or whatever was for like what is it?

Like what was it was like 35 minutes or something? No, I did not see that. Dude, it was nuts. He sat in that cold tub for literally 35 minutes and it was like he was, it was insane. Yeah, I'm good on that. So Bob said that he has DMD you a few times. What made you decide to come on? I got bored.

You got tired of. hammer you're just like I just got bored like I said I don't do much of these you've been on part of my take a couple times yeah yeah a couple times like twice except the last podcast you did yeah those only two is it hard sometimes you feel like with with who you are and like that you're restricted

did not like you're it's hard for you to do these things because of you know the repercussions that may come with doing you know kind of loose goosey kind of podcasts yes and no you know I'm not walk out of here we have Joe

best interest in mine i'm i'm pretty good at understanding what i want to say and verbalizing it the way that i want to so i'm not so much worried about that it's just i'm not i'm not really a big fan of the whole i love playing football but i don't like everything that comes with it a lot so you you don't like do you like the attention no i hate it hate it meaning what you don't like to like do you get anxiety from it do you get like yeah i get i get anxiety and like going out and having to take pictures with all these people. And I love it. I love the fans and I'm, you know, very appreciative of everybody, but, you know, it's a lot sometimes.

I just think what people don't understand, too, is like you are, obviously, you're a football player. So that's your job to do that, what comes with it. But also the pay, the payday wasn't bad. Payday is not bad. What was your deal? So the first pick of my draft was 36, 4, I think, over four years. and then fifth year option for the first round picks

and is that in comparison to first round first round first pick overall bro what was the guarantee 23 million my it's all guaranteed for for the draft picks and then my signing bonus was 246 or something like that how good does that feel

it's fun when you wake up and that hits in the first thing in the morning should go buy anything or do anything with that so there's a wire just come in for 24 just like that like you just yeah damn no payment they take the taxes out okay and so you call your financial guy like yo what the phone where's this 12 million right gone and then you realize oh taxes did you did you come from money or no i mean we were upper middle class my dad was a football coach at uh ohio university so i mean we definitely weren't poor right i was able to

get everything that i wanted i wouldn't say we were rich but we did well he played he played he played college and in the NFL. He played at Nebraska and then he played in the CFL. He played in the NFL for one year. Where do you play in the CFL? He played in Toronto. He played in Saskatchewan. He kind of bounced around.

I'm from Toronto, say, yeah. Oh, really? The CFL is just, I don't know, man. Yeah, we got our league. Just such a joke, too. The CFL. But was he pushing hard for you to go to Nebraska? Was Nebraska one of the things?

Nebraska didn't really want me. Nobody really wanted you. Yeah. I mean, not at the level that I wanted to play at. Ohio State is kind of my. only big offer coming out of high school. And, you know, that didn't really work out in my favor. And then, you know, when I was transferring, it was, you know, there were a couple suitors, Cincinnati, North Carolina, but, you know, LSU was kind of the only, the big school that wanted me.

You, uh, you played basketball and baseball, too, right? I played baseball growing up, and I played basketball all through high school. Yeah. Any offers in those sports or no? Um, not in baseball. I kind of stopped before, you know, I was, I didn't do baseball in high school. but basketball I could have played somewhere if I had wanted to nice basketball is can you dunk I could dunk yeah

what position were you I kind of played I was kind of the LeBron of my little league really we didn't exactly have the the stiffest competition but I kind of it's pretty big statement make sure we clip that please the LeBron of southeast Ohio yeah exactly but because a lot of athletes too all these guys are good because they're just obviously super athletic

you gotta make a choice at some point to play NBA or the NFL a lot of these guys So you, but you didn't ever think you had a chance to play in the NBA, right? No, I did not. You weren't at that level. I'm pretty sure I saw something that said that you favored basketball and baseball over football, though. Yeah, I like basketball. Basketball is my favorite sport.

I almost quit football to play basketball because I was starting point guard my freshman year in high school in varsity basketball. And I was playing freshman football. And so I was kind of starting to lean towards basketball. And then... So what made you say I got to do football? Well, all of a sudden I had this awesome... sophomore season in football. And I was like, I'm pretty good at this football thing. I might as well

focus on this. So then you go to Ohio State first year and you're actually, it was Duane Haskins who just passed away, right? You were behind. So Duane was the year after me. I was class of 2015. He was class of 2016. So he was the quarterback that came in right after me.

So you had, but you had J.T. Barrett. J.T. Braxton. Cardale were all there. And that was after they had just won the national title. When Braxton was the starter got her, JT became the starter, got hurt, and then Cardale went in the last couple of games and won it all. So, you know, we had some guys. Well, so with that lineup, you think you're going to get a shot or were you worried like,

fuck, I'm not going to play these guys are so good? No, I knew I wasn't going to play immediately. I was kind of just enjoying the college backup quarterback life for the first couple of years. No, I was working hard and getting better, but I was definitely enjoying myself. So was Haskins front of yours? Yeah, you know, we were close. I mean, we were competitive. We were competing for a job for three years. And, you know, we became close through that. We kind of had this interesting relationship where we were, you know, pushing each other every day and getting better and, you know, saw each other grow from, you know, when we first got into, you know, where we were by the end of it. And so it was, you know, it was tough to, it was tough day when that happened. And, you know, the Ohio State community kind of came out and, you know, helped everybody along that road. So then how did the transfer come about to LSU?

So I graduated in three years, and, you know, the transfer portal wasn't a thing when I was transferring. So you couldn't just sit out for a little bit? You had to unless you graduated. So I graduated. But you couldn't just hop in the portal like you can these days. So I did, I graduated, decided to transfer, kind of, you know, the writing was on the wall. Duane had just gone in. So I broke my hand before my last season in Ohio State.

and kind of set me back. And then J.T. got hurt against Michigan. Duane went and played awesome. Ended up coming back and winning the game. And so I kind of knew I saw the writing on the wall that he was going to kind of be the guy. And so I kind of decided to... Coach O' reached out to you and was like,

hey, we got an opportunity for you? Yeah, so Bill Bush was the safeties coach at LSU, and he was at Ohio State my first year is the special teams assistant, I think. And he told Coach O about me and then went on a visit to LSU. And I don't know if you guys have ever talked to Coach O, but he's pretty convincing. Yeah.

And so, you know, that was kind of it for me. Does that stuff, did it ever come? I don't want to get you in trouble or anything. But did anybody ever come to you with, like, hey, come and play for our school? No, I wasn't good enough for that. Maybe some guys, but not me. Yeah. Do you believe that still exists, do you think?

Yeah. For sure. So you think they're still dropping bags and, like, doing little... I don't think it's as prevalent as some people think, but it definitely happens. Yeah. What was it like at LSU, just like going there and shit, like the campus and shit? So I didn't, I didn't do much. I kind of got it all out of my system at Ohio State.

I kind of just treated that as like a post-graduation internship, getting ready for what I wanted to do in the NFL. And so I kind of just took it really serious, didn't do a lot, took all online classes. So I didn't have to really worry about going to class every single day. I just had to focus on training and all that. There was like just Joe gets all A's. That's it. Joe didn't even have to show up. It's like Joe, Joe missed his class and exam today. It's like A-plus. He's good.

Don't worry about it. It sounds like at Ohio State you never thought you'd go to the NFL at that point. I mean, that was the plan, but. If you're not playing. It wasn't playing. So it was like, what about, what about Urban Meyer? Did you guys have a bad relationship, you in Urban? No.

I mean, it got intense at times because, you know, I wasn't playing and we were competing and I was back up quarterback. But, you know, I love Coach Meyer. There was nothing but love there. Right. He was hard on you, though? Oh, very hard. Yeah.

So what kind of things would he? say? I mean, so he's the kind of guy that when a new guy gets there, he's going to put him in the fire and see how he responds. And so, you know, my first couple years, you know, he really, you know, he stands right behind the quarterback. And if you make a bad throw, he's going to let you know it. Yeah. And so some guys can handle it. Some guys can't. And, you know, once you get through that, and he realizes, oh, this guy's tough guy, good player, works hard. And then the relationship kind of switches to, you know, more of a friend than a hard coach on you. So, you know, he got the best out of me, that's for sure.

What's the most savage thing he's ever said to you or called you? Told me I threw like a girl one time. That'll piss you off or what? You talked back? No, I didn't definitely talk back. He said like a girl now super good, the Super Bowl. And anybody ever talk back or they're just... It's not the most creative truth, too.

It's like the most basic... Coach Meyer has this... Urban's a zapper. Weird sense of humor. Yeah. Good guy, though. Like, you know, you hear all these stories coming out about Coach Meyer and people that know him. You know, a lot of those are Coach Meyer's way of making jokes.

Sure. And, you know, some things are, Coach Meyer is an intense guy. Sure. I think Urban just, he does his job and then off the field, I think he just probably does, has his fun, right? I mean, he got, because he got a little bit of trouble with that thing. That viral pick. He was grinding on some. Were you there that night or not?

you were with him his wingman no comment that's what zirat does he tries to extract information so you called me and kai we're going to take care of you we're not going to put you in those situations you know when you go to lsu is coach oh like believing in you right away

like how did you become the fucking man there yeah right away you know exactly when he was recruiting me he told me something that was going to happen and it happens and so you know there's not a lot of people like that in this industry so I was very thankful that coacho gave me that opportunity because I knew what I was going to do with it. You guys still pretty close. Yeah,

we talk a lot. Was the confidence always there? Did it start to come more when you got more recognition and more playing time? It was always there. I mean, I knew what I would do if I ever got on the field. Obviously, it wavered a bit when you're not playing for three years and, you know, you're putting all this work in the weight room and on the field and you're not seeing any results except for in practice. But, you know, the confidence in myself never, never wavered. And I was kind of always a better game player than I was a practice player. And unfortunately, I never got to show that at Ohio State. I think you saw that in the spring games.

When I got in a, you know, when we played in the spring games, I always played really well. And then, you know, always better than I did in practice. But never got my opportunity. Do you think if you had stayed at Ohio State, you would have had the same success? Well, I would have, Dwayne would have been the starter. And I guess he would have left, probably left after that year, too. and I probably would have had one year of starting, but who knows what happens with that year.

So I'm happy with my decision. He goes to LSU and he wins a Heisman. No, I know that. I'm just curious to see what it would have been if he had stuck with Ohio State. Did you take a lot of shit in the DMs and stuff on social media from leaving? From Ohio State fans? No, they understood. Ohio State fans are great.

They knew the work that I put it in. They knew I graduated and they knew Duane was going to be the starter too. and so there was no hard feelings there so what was the moment at lSU where you were like all right i got something i'm going to probably most likely be one of the best quarterbacks to come out of the draft class what was it what was a big game moment what was your what was your moment that you had that you were most proud of at lsu i had a really good spring ball after my first year there i mean the first year was i was trying to figure out how to play football again i hadn't played actual football in in three years three and a half years so i was

you know getting the feel of things again remembering how to move in the pocket make people miss i hadn't done that so long and so it was like that first year was just kind of a feeling out process and then that second year kind of all clicked for me and we had a lot of guys coming back obviously we had jammar justin clide you know all those guys that you see now balling in the league we had we had really good players ridiculous lineup so did you and jimar like click right away because i mean you guys play at ls u crush at lsu he's obviously on the bangles like it's crazy think you go from college win a championship now you have your guy at the bangles so when

did that click when you guys are like this is my guy z z i mean immediately when he got here and i knew the kind of duty was at ls u he was one of the first guys that i threw with fucking bobber walton's over here sorry joe go ahead joe sorry to rudely interrupt you there that's okay that is z you call him yeah i mean he's he's a great player our worker i know exactly what's going to happen you compare your tandem to anybody we've ever seen or no i don't think i don't like making those comparisons you know i try try to try to stay away from that because i want to be i want to be me i don't want to you know i don't really watch film on i mean i watch other quarterbacks but i don't try to take anything because i want to be the best player that i can be in what i can do good i'm really

proud of you too by the way because i we talked about earlier we ran into you that we called the devil's done you know the devil's den you know scott's scott's down we ran into there and you were like i was like, you know, somebody told me that Joe was there, and we, spoken briefly, and I was like, I got to go say what's up to him. You were just like, didn't, you were just focused. There was like distractions all around you. There's bottle girls. There's all, you know, and Joe was just dialed in. It was just like chilling, enjoying the vibe and whatnot. How often do you go and get tempted to go into that lifestyle of the partying and the craziness? These days, I don't, doesn't really interest me. That's, uh, I was visiting some friends and they wanted to go do that.

So we went and did that, but that's not really, really my cup of tea these days. Yeah, I think you were, like, drinking water. Yeah. I think you were sitting there, like, drinking water and just, like, shaking everybody's hand and being very respectful. So I was just, like, just hanging out until we got back. Mm-hmm. I'm not a big, not a big party drinker guy.

Yeah. Yeah. Have you tried these things yet? What are those? The happy dads? I don't know what that is. Nice. It's a salsa that Kyle created.

Oh, nice. We're not trying to get, like, a free endorsement for me or anything like that, but, you know, let me get something like this. Did you already hit a workout today? Yeah. Oh, fuck. with you. All right. So you make it there. So you go through college, whatever, blah, blah. Then we go fast forward to the NFL draft. Did you, did you actually go to the draft or no? So it was a

COVID year. We didn't have it. We had at home draft. It was just me, my mom and dad. We didn't, there was nothing crazy. It was a little weird. That's brutal. Yeah. Would you have been there, sorry, would you have been there if it wasn't a year? My apologies. But he's like a dragon right now. I was a dragon. You know, I was kind of, I was kind of happy that I got to stay home and celebrate with my family because the draft is crazy these days all the media stuff and pictures not not real into that like I said I was kind of kind of going to stay home anyway if they had it and I was glad I didn't have to make that decision because COVID ended up happening I didn't have to tell Roger Goodell that I wasn't going to come knowing I was the first picking the draft

so it kind of worked out perfect I think you'd be a great mentor for some people that Their heads are too big. And one of the guys right here. Like, I mean, Guy next to me? Yeah, I mean, he's got the gold chains rocking.

Yeah, well, I'm calling Cap because we've seen your fits go viral this. I can, I can get a, so you get dressed up and you go viral. So I think you like the attention a little bit. Is he a low key?

Is he a low key? Got to build the brand, bro. Yeah, I know. Okay, so you had that outfit. I looked at your caption, uh,

Cartier glasses came of peek at you. You have sick captions, by the way, sick captions. Wait. My caption game is unmatched. It is. It always has been. Go back to

when I was in Ohio State. I went all the way back unmatched captions. I went back and I'm looking at his tape. Are you a solo captioner or do you have like a secret caption like assistant? No, it's all me. Just all you? There's a picture of you and uh, I can't remember who, but you have AirPods in and he has wires is Clyde. Yeah, what was the caption? It's hilarious. You're rolling for wearing wires. I said, sorry, Clyde, I can't hear you. I got my AirPods in. He had the wires. It was funny. You're an air. I fucking, excuse my language. I know you're, you know, uh, I fucking hate

AirPods. Oh, yeah? I think they're the douchebaggiest things in the planet. And by the way, so what do you wear? I wear the wires. The wires. I'm old school wires. And I would think the same of you. I'm very disappointed. Why are you so proud of that? It's like, literally admitting you is no sauce. I get shit. On my Instagram shit, I put on my shit and everybody's

like, oh, you have the fucking wires in, like upgrade to AirPods. I'm like, no, I don't want to. First of all, how do you not lose them all the time? You've got to keep track your stuff. I lose AirPods a lot. I mean, you can keep the same pair of AirPods for It doesn't matter for him. No, I've definitely gone through a couple.

He doesn't look at his bank account when he has to go buy another air pocket. Okay, so that fit, where you go? The caption was what? Cardiardier glasses came in Pikachu. How, you knew that that was not one day fit. That was planned out. I mean, yeah, I planned it out. How far in advance was that fit and that caption planned out?

Just a week. So my, this is a good story. My best, one of my friends from high school, Micah, he actually, he recently started designing clothes. and he designed that jacket that I wore and so I surprised him by wearing that to the game I knew it was dope jacket so I knew he was gonna wear the cardio shades he's gonna wear the jacket

had some shoes on I knew he was gonna blow up and he ended up getting a lot of business from that so that was awesome. Oh yeah, when you're buying fits and thinking of captions at the same time until you know you have to ask you. That's next level, huh?

That's next level shit. Have you seen his engagement? Yeah, I see him, yes. You understand all this stuff, right? Yeah, it's popping. So he's got three points. What do you got? How many followers on Instagram?

Three male. Three mil. plus, and then his last post got 1.7 million likes. It's crazy. 29,000 comments. I don't know. I don't really look at that stuff. Well, Bob is a studious guy on your engagement. I can tell. He said engagement.

I was like, what do you time? You broke 100K on your last photo. I mean, I don't know back into triple digits. Sometimes you're getting 3K likes on my shit. I'm just like, how's Borough here right now? I just don't get it, you know? Are the pregame fits like competitive in the locker room? Oh, yeah. Yeah? You think you're the best dressed? I'm up there. Who else is up there?

T is up there. He's got some fire fits. Jamar likes to think he does. It's probably top 10. What's the worst fit you've ever seen anybody walk into a game with? The basketball players or you personally on your team? Yeah, what's with the basketball? The basketball players are a little out there for me.

It's too much. What, like who at Westbrook? I'm not going to name any names, but go smart of this. This is not his first rodeo. I think they do that. They must do it just to get attention. You're right. He tries to extract.

You're right. He's trying to become your friend, bro. I fly's not until 10 people. I don't know what you're doing after this and shit. So, all right, cool. So now we fast forward. You get drafted. Were you a little, did you know you were going to Cincinnati?

Yeah. The whole time. So you knew you were going to be the number one draft pick. Guaranteed. I mean, I didn't do, we had a combine. I didn't do anything at the combine. Our pro day got canceled. So I didn't do any pre-jraft stuff that any of these guys are doing.

So I was just able to train and focus on getting better. Because, you know, I mean, I don't know if I'm allowed to say this, but they had told me months in advance that I was going to be the guy. And so it was like, I think you're allowed to say, if not, we'll take it out. But yeah, I was like, all right, let's go. You know, it's time to game time. And so you come to this, you come to Cincinnati, you were, were you excited to come here? Did you want to come here?

Yeah, I was excited to come back because I didn't get to play football in Ohio after, after high school. And so I was excited to come back and, you know, be close to home. I knew a lot of people in Cincinnati. Columbus is close. Athens is close, so I was excited to come back. And then the first season obviously didn't go as planned. He got hurt. Yeah.

I think you probably... What was the game, though? What game would you get hurt? Got her against the football team. Commanders, sorry. What is it now? The commanders, I believe. So it was originally the Washington Redskins, right?

Yeah. They deem that it's an offensive... It's a Rachel thing? Is that why they changed the team name? You are correct. And they switched to the Washington football team? Yeah, I like the football team. The football team was, I mean,

whoever thought of that? It's just the football team now? They had a year what was just. Well, it was supposed to be like a bridge name. And then it kind of turned in. I liked it. I liked the football team.

Can you imagine like all the names in the, like who was thinking of that? They probably had the most creative names too, planned. Yeah. And they just went with the football team. I mean, literally probably the worst name possible. Oh,

I loved it. Yeah. Just meat and potatoes. So what was the play like? What played did you get hurt? Who hits you? I don't remember. So I got,

I got hit by, so our left guard kind of fell into my knee along with the defensive tackle this way and then I got pushed from that way and my knee went like that and it wasn't very fun and just immediate massive pain I don't know if it was pain but I felt my knee move out of where it was supposed to be and I wouldn't I guess it was pain but um it was more like I knew what had just happened right and you were you were you were you were you very like injury prone at all in your career? No, I've never, I mean, I've had injuries here, there, but nothing that would make me miss games. I've never missed a game due to injury in my life. Right. So that was

my first injury to do that. What did that do for like your confidence in like rookie season? You get hurt. Are you cried in the pillow at night, bro? Well, no, but I mean, how do you, are you like, fuck, this is like the NFL? Are you ready to go back? No, I knew. I was playing well at the time, and I was just hitting my stride. And so that was frustrating that I didn't get, didn't get those reps towards the end of the year to keep getting better, but I felt like I had kind of figured it out at that point. So I was excited to go into next year. I knew I was going to come back. I knew it was going to take with the rehab process to get me back. And, you know, it is what it is. Just got to put in more work when you get hurt. Came back strong. Yeah. Hell yeah,

I did. Rehab process is a good thing. Been there. Did you feel like it was a big difference from the rookie season to your second year? Yeah, it's just slower. Everything. Click faster it's another year in the offense you know there's some only so many defenses in the NFL so you get to you know a lot of teams run the same stuff right so you get to see that over and over again and just replay that in your head through the whole offseason you know different things that you saw throughout the year and just click i don't know how you guys do the play calling like the spider 22 nine manna that was one my you know that was one of the things i was most worried about coming in because it was all you know signals in high school signals at ohio state and

signals at LSU and then you get someone talking in your head that you got to call a play in the huddle when you're tired and there's 8,000 screaming fans but you know once once you get used to it it's pretty easy how much does the noise how much does the noise level effect is it as big as they say when you're trying to you know in like you said 80,000 people screaming what's the worst stadium to play in um arrowhead was loud or Las Vegas was loud Those are probably the two loudest, I would say. Is that where you guys wanted to go to the Super Bowl? Was an airhead?

Yeah. And you guys beat Mahomes. Yeah. What is it like in the pregame when you walk up? You guys are warming out in the field. Does Mahomes say anything to you? You always see the guys that you know pregame, say hello. Tell them good luck and whatever.

I don't know, Patrick personally, really. But I know a bunch of guys on that team. So that's one of my favorite parts of playing the game is seeing all the guys you know pregame. giving respect after the game, winner loss. That's one of my favorite parts. Because it was, you guys weren't,

you guys were big underdogs in that game, were you? Who knows? I don't know, I don't look at that. You don't know, you don't bet your own games?

No, I can't say I'm a gambler. Didn't the schedule for the next year come out to the day? It comes out tonight, eight o'clock. You're playing Arrowhead next season, I thought.

Yeah, we know who we're playing. I think I saw five prime time games, right? Yeah, something like that. Five, five big time games now. Going up against Brady, too? Yeah, we play at Tampa. Would you make of his, like, retirement and come back? I mean, did anybody actually think he was going to be retired?

Yes. I was fooled. Yeah, I was fooled big time. You guys got no better than that. I would retire if I just got his contract. Why should be no better than that? I would take Tom Brady's word for his word. I was a diehard New England fan through all the years.

And when he said something, he does it. And he said he was retired. He said he was out of the league. And so explain. He's playing way too well to give it up right now. Then why say you're retiring? I think he wanted to shut down the conversation

because if he didn't announce his retirement everyone would be talking about is he retiring? Is he not retiring? So I think he went ahead and did it to get everyone off his back so we could go think about it. That's smart, low-key, fuck, yeah. Yeah, Tom's low-key smart.

Like, you can tell by the late end of his career right now towards the tail line, he's starting to do more like... Because I don't think he changed his mind. I think he just did that to go and think about it thoroughly. have you ever had a conversation with him yeah we've talked do a lot of these like veterans like

mentor you or give you advice ever not much some guys do more more retired guys guys like you know kurt warner pain manning those guys all you know help help out the young guys but i mean rogers and brady i mean they're still competing in this they don't want to they don't want to give us anything kurt warner's story is crazy did you see that movie my dad coached uh he didn't coach kurt warner but he was coached in the defense of the team that Kurt Warner was on in the arena league.

Did they like, did they amplify that story at all? Like, was it really how it was? He was, like, working at a grocery store? He was working at a grocery store, yeah. Crazy. And then the case, they had, that was back in the day

where they had Isaac Bruce, they had Marshall Falk. That team was stacked. Stacked. The Pats beat him that year, right? They were 14-point dogs. Yeah, I think so. That was with Brady.

That was 0-1. Oh, I think that was their first one. Mm-hmm. So did, did, when you made finally, obviously, you didn't expect, you said it yourself, you didn't expect, you knew you guys had a good team

you guys were peaking at the right time but you didn't expect ever play in the Super Bowl no why is that I mean I just didn't have that experience of having that success in the NFL so I didn't really know what it took we were just I know once you get in the playoffs

you know anything can happen and you know we know how to win a game but we didn't have that experience I expected to go to the playoffs coming into the year I think every team does but you know going to the to the Super Bowl after we won four games and I tore everything in my knee I mean I thought that was kind of a pipe dream until we started getting to the end of the year and I was like we're pretty damn good going into the playoffs we were playing you know

best of any team in the AFC I thought and you know it was just clicking at the right time and then once once we won those first two playoff games it was like all right it's on how does that pressure compare because you won a national championship so now you're in the playoffs everybody wants to see you in the super bowl it's not really the pressure thing is like uh i think it's more of a media creation than anything that anybody actually feels because when you're out there it's like one play at a time how what i need to do this play to have success um i don't think anybody really feels the moment like oh this is the super bowl i got to go make a play like no i don't think but you missed a couple throws in that early in that game right yeah for sure that wasn't

my best do you look you look back at that game and you look at some of the things you could have done better obviously like anybody else does for sure you do that with with every game whether you win or lose right i could definitely could have played better but with the super bowl do you like put it away do you say look it's last game the year i'm putting it away or do you go back and actually examine like hey fuck that throw i fucking overthrew you know so and so i mean i i treated it like a you know the next week i treated it just like a normal game week i went to and watched the game the day after and say, I'd get better here, here, and here,

and then put it behind me. Where do you think your weaknesses? If you have a weakness? That's tough to say. I don't want to give away everything you've been working on, but, no, there's definitely areas that I can prove. You know, really going into every off-season, I'm focusing on improving my entire game,

getting my body, bigger, faster, stronger, moving better, understanding how to move my body in certain situations, reacting to, you know, different things that defenses could throw at me. And, you know, really the main thing for me is getting my body back to where it was pre-injury. Because I didn't, I mean, I was ready to go, but I wasn't where I wanted to be physically coming off that injury going into the year. And it's just not possible when you get hurt like that. So this is really, I mean, this is my first full off-season, going into my rookie year, and you had all the media stuff for draft and didn't know where you were going until you did. And then this is my first full off season that I'm able to really

focus on my body, my game, my arm, core strength, all that stuff that I need to do. Pretty good deflection there. Yeah, really well done. It's so crazy. I'm a pro. You're a pro with this. By the way, I mean, the supplement stuff you got going on, I mean, you got to get Joe on some of these supplements. Yeah, maybe. I don't know if he's going tests what what's like the workout routine like um like how many days you like lifting a week i'm doing something every day it's not i'm not doing full full workouts every day but i'm lifting monday tuesday thursday friday doing something wednesday sunday just to keep my body moving because i don't want to sit on the couch for 24 hours and then your body feels like crap for

your next workout so you got to stay moving um but lifting four days a week running four days a week running four days a week and then just maintenance stuff the other days. I got to give Joe shit right now, though. I just thought of something. Sorry. Are you a kid, Cuddy fan? Massive. How do you know that? I googled it, Aaron. I googled it. I googled it. I did my

research. Why is that giving him shit? Oh yeah, you went on stage with him, didn't you? Oh, fuck, I forgot about that. Yeah, but you know when he went on stage? During a performance. Did you go to the, did you go to a cutty concert? He performed at our after party. At the after party, right? Which I don't get, like, that's the thing, too. You got a lot of shit for going to that thing, right? Did I?

based on the searches and all that Wait, when was it? Yeah, that was the Super Bowl. Oh, first of all. Like, they expect Joe to go cry in a corner, right? You're going to go and resume your life. Here's the thing. It's not so much as, you know, resuming life.

But I was watching a, you guys watched the football lives on NFL network. Yeah. I was watching a bunch of those leading up to the game. And Kurt Warner said something in it. When he lost the Super Bowl, he regretted not celebrating what they had accomplished instead, and he did what you talked about. He went and sulked in a corner. And then after the game, I was like, yeah, it sucks.

We just lost the Super Bowl, but we did something really cool. And I wanted to celebrate with the guys about what we did for the year and all the success that we had rather than, you know, sitting a corner and sulk about the game we just lost. Well, I agree. And I think you've exceeded expectations for, like, you know, what Cincinnati Bengals fans were expecting. I think for a year two, you guys have pretty much exceeded expectations.

Did that cause any, like, negative? I don't know. He said that it did by, yeah. Fans are obviously, fans are not on like the Cincinnati fans are not on stage with kid cuddies. It's dumb, you know, like he said, he just brought up a good point about obviously

the Kurt Warner thing and whatnot. So I just, I just had to ask, you know. Did he ask you to go on stage? Yeah, he won the whole team up there. So we got up there and, I mean, we were having fun. We were celebrating what we accomplished. Obviously, game sucked, but. Pursuit of happiness comes on.

You got to get up there and shit. You've got to get up there. Did you get a chance to watch the halftime? show the Super Bowl? I did not. Fortunately, I was focused on something else. Can you like hear it when you're in the locker room while you guys are like, all right, so listen to the coach is probably reaming you out, screaming at you. Can you hear like Dr. Yeah, you could hear it, yeah. And, uh, you were viving for that. That, that's, that game is definitely different because, so half time in the NFL is super quick, like, and you're out for five minutes, seven minutes maybe. And that one's like 45 minutes.

So you're in there for a lot longer. So you got to stay warm. the locker room. Now you're throwing in the locker room, keep the arm warm, going through dynamic warm up, all that, all that good stuff. Damn,

that's a long time. You should have been, like, doing stories in there, like on Instagram. Yeah, that would have gone over great. Yeah,

they'd be like, here I am down the locker room. Did you give like a half-time speech? Your numbers would have been nuts. Not a big speech guy. No? No. Someone's got to give the speech, right?

Somebody's got to. You should have walked in there and gave a speech. I would have, if Joe would have asked me to, I would have walked in there and fucking me. I'm not sure. It would have been 50, it would have been, it would have been in there, like, all right, guys, how are you?

Good to see you all in here. That's how it would have went in there? So next year, going into this season, how's the team looking? Awesome. I'm really excited about what we did this off season. Obviously, I'm healthy. We got Jamar coming back. We got all of our weapons coming back.

We added pieces on the offensive line that I think will be really good. And we got everybody on defense back, except, you know, we lost a, I mean, a piece here or there. But, you know, for the most part, we got our whole team coming back, but now we know how to do it. We know what it takes to get there, and we got the experience, so we're ready to go. You guys signed three offensive linemen? Yeah, we signed Ted, Alex, and L.C. You were sacked, what, seven times in the Super Bowl? Something like that.

Well, here's the thing about sacks. So there's good sacks and bad sacks, right? Sure. You know, you look at the stats. Yeah, I got sacked a lot, but you look at when they happened. Third down sacks, who cares about third down. sex. I'm going to try to extend the play as long as I can on third down to get the first down. Unless I'm in field goal range and it's going to back me up, then I'll throw

away, throw the ball away and get some points. But I think sacks are overblown stat. Yeah. So do you have like a good relationship with the O line? Like you love those guys? Awesome. Yeah. More were their Christmas gifts this year? Last year I got them iced out G-shocks. Yeah. Oh, what did those are on you? A lot. I thought I saw, didn't a reporter ask. Yeah, they just gave you seven sacks in the Super Bowl here. Did you take them back? Absolutely not. No, they played awesome. I thought I saw a reporter call you out,

or maybe not call you out, but ask if your chains were real? Yeah. Did that bother you? Because I'd take offense to that if I were you. I was kind of offended. Do you think you should have brought out the diamond? The tester? Yeah.

If you're going to call me out, you've got to break out the tester. You've got to have some evidence to back it up. Did you see that? Just compare them to errands. His are all fake. My shit's real. I don't have it with me, but it's real. Did you see that, though?

What? This reporter, what did he say? He goes, do I have to ask you? Do I have to ask you? Is the chain's real? conference that was after we that was after we beat the the chiefs in the playoffs yeah they were just trying to dig you

they were just trying to here you got here steak just floating this fucking treatment you get in Cincinnati's right there speaking about the man of the steak that's the steak borough yeah yeah that's the steak borough yeah prime New York strip with the Canadian creole sauce I love it I love it I love it

so we're gonna keep that there for decoration but I might take a bite of it you're gonna have to it's very it's very affordable is that yeah it's a nice steakhouse it's a nice steakhouse this place is awesome though

oh this is the best place yeah it's Jeff Rubies Jeff Ruby in the precinct because there's multiple locations here right yeah there's the one downtown and then there's one in Mason

that's amazing so what do they donate to charity I've heard yeah so portions of the proceeds go to the hunger fund that I support. That's awesome.

There's a lot about your... When you won that Hideman, that was a big thing of your speech, right? Yeah. You gave a great speech of the Hizman. Yeah, I'm pretty good at those speeches in those situations for the most part. And what was the main topic of it?

It was about supporting your... I just kind of... Yeah, I mean, I wanted to thank everyone that had helped me get to that point, obviously, and then, you know, something just popped into my head, kind of just went out there, was going to wing it, and then it was like,

oh, I could probably... mentioned something cool that that would help out my my hometown area and i mean it went crazy that's the the hunger fund has like 1.6 million dollars in it now that's and it's going to support him for 70 years it's awesome that's amazing that's awesome good for you fire steak that sauce is fire yeah told you how did this phone call go like hey joe we got a steak for you that we're making just kind of happened just happened yeah you getting royalties on this who we talked to jeff ruby jeff why Why isn't Jeff? Why isn't Borough getting?

I'm going to be his agent. Why is he getting royalties on every stake soul in here? He's doing it all right. Yeah, I think I'm doing just fine. Just make sure you collect everywhere, you know? I work with Josh Gordon a lot too. I don't really have the top tier talent, you know, but do a lot of agent work. You can get fan-controlled football league?

We have the fan-controlled football league, yeah. You're a fan? I see highlights, yeah. He sees it. It's fun. It's kind of just building the, kind of like the W-W-E of football. It's not really like hyper-focused on the players playing. It's more like building.

a show around it. That's cool. So, you know, we're looking forward to. I think the more leagues that you can have to give people opportunity, the better. You see USFL coming up and XFL and all those leagues, you know, a lot of them ended up going down because of COVID. But, you know, all these guys coming out of college, it might not get a chance to the NFL getting an opportunity.

I think that's great. What was it like going to the White House? You guys went, right? Yeah. What was that like? That was cool. I'm not real into that. kind of stuff.

Yeah. But kind of just comes to the territory. Yeah. If you figured you got a chance to go to the White House, you might as well do it for one time and then

that's good. You're playing with Trump, aren't you on Saturday? Trump's your guy? I mean, he's cool. Yeah, I'm not going to turn down a chance to golf of them. It's like when we get shit

for like, it's so funny because like, you know, we took so much shit. We interviewed the president during all the Ukraine, Russia stuff early. And, you know, we took so much shit for it.

Not really. I don't think so. Well, I'm saying like, you know, I read every DM. so I just read every single one not too many coming in this way but but no we took a lot of shit for it

it's just like I don't think we'd ever turn down an opportunity to interview any president I don't care what it is you just don't turn down and that's the same thing goes to like for you guys when you visit the White House and like with politics like just dividing everything now it's like I mean you get a once a lifetime opportunity to go to the White House

why wouldn't you just do it no matter what for the history of it you know so that's why I just hopefully don't get a bad rap any longer for this I mean it gave a lot of me so worried no I just I get anxiety when I go to the DMs

so don't go to the DMs yeah I can't help it why it's like a drug you're expecting he's expecting to see like one like crazy DM from you maybe or from like come on Burrow please come on Burrow come on they don't happen

I mean I'm actually because I did ask you a bunch for this you would this is this is really I mean Joe this is the power of persistence right I think I can speak to it Well, I mean, like I said, I don't do a bunch of these things. I don't really like doing a bunch of these things. But sometimes you get bored and you want to do something. So you're at a board, when does work start up for you again?

So we start on-field stuff next week. Is it optional? Still optional, yeah. Do you go to optional or no? I go to some of the optional. Because they got to expect you there as a leader, right? Yeah. You got to show your face.

Right. And so now you're at a different level. You're in year three now. Yeah. So the rookies that are coming in. And what are some of the things that you, you know, preach to those guys that are coming into the league? I don't really preach anything. I just try to, you know, I reach out to all of them when they get drafted.

It's a big moment for them. And, you know, you just, as a quarterback, I think there's a couple ways you can go about it. You can go about it as the, and I think this will probably be it when you get older, but you can kind of be a mentor and all that and be a fiery guy in the locker room or you can kind of help build a culture of. When you're a forward thinker, You don't just bring your A game. You bring your AI game.

Workday is the AI platform that transforms the way you manage your people, money, and agents, so you can transform tomorrow. Workday, moving business forever forward. Being friends in the locker room, having a great interaction with everybody, being able to talk to anybody at the lunch table, sit at different lunch tables, to create relationships at different parts of the team. And I think that's really what, because at this level, everyone has great players.

Talent is all over the place. I think, you know, the relationships that you make in the locker room translate to the field as far as I trust that guy he's going to do his job. And I think building that trust in the locker room is paramount. How much animosity, if there's animosity inside within the locker room, do they look to you to kind of fix that? Or is it a coach's job to do that? We haven't had any of that.

We really haven't. I think, you know, a part of building the culture that we've built, you know, Our head coach, Zach, did a great job, and I'm just kind of following his lead of, you know, building that culture that, you know, everyone loves everybody in that locker room. And, you know, we got guys out that didn't fit that mold. Is it tough when you're, like, 23, 24, you got to go into the locker room, and there's guys older than you vets, and you got to be that guy? I thought it would be. It's really not, you know, we had a lot of great veteran guys that knew what the deal was. I mean, I was the number one pick.

I was going to come in and be the starter, and, you know, they really helped me along and, you know, pushed me to, to be a leader. I didn't really feel comfortable doing it at first. And then, you know, as I started playing better, it was, you know, a lot easier. So you got, like, immediate support. There's no one like, yeah, we got to test this kid. I mean, for sure at first, you know, people want to test you, but then they see what you can do in practice. And it's like, all right, I'm good. There's got to be, I mean, is there a lot of shit talking that goes on? Are you a shit talker? I can talk a little shit, yeah.

But on the field, like, I mean, who, who that you played against really fucked with your head and really got inside your head? Who's the biggest shit talking about? Nobody gets in his head, bro. Nobody's not saying getting your head, but there's got to be guys that chirp you to fuck you out. Maybe you. Does he get in your head? I'm not even on the radar here, all right? That's a good question.

No. I'm not even on the radar. Let's, hmm. Who do we got? I don't think, you don't really want to talk shit to me. Do you play against Sherman? No, I haven't played. I haven't played against him, no.

He haven't played against Sherman. Who else is a big guy? Who talks the most to you? Like defensive linemen, corners? Defensive linemen sometimes. But then I'll make them miss and they won't say anything for the rest of the game. Linebackers sometimes, they get a decent hit on me. Are they hitting you dirty, though, what you're talking?

Are they hitting, like... There's definitely some people out there that'll give you more so your rookie year, hit you a little bit after the whistle because they know you're not going to get a call as a rookie. And then, because that's the thing. in the NFL you got to you got to earn your calls yeah if you're not playing very well you're not going to get defense alignment hits you after the after the the ball is thrown they're not going to call it if you're not playing well right you got to earn that earn those calls to you know i was we were playing the eagles my rookie year and fletcher cox and they were i think they had eight sacks and

they were hit me a bunch um fletcher hits me after the play and he comes up to me later later and he's like, hey, man, you got to throw that away. And then I looked at him, I said, just give me a couple years and I'll get that call. And I think you like that. There you go. Yeah. What's the hardest year been hit? I don't really know.

The only time that I ever really feel it, because, I mean, you're in the game, you're not really, you get hit. You don't really feel it unless you get the wind knocked out of you, then you kind of feel it a little bit. So I don't really. He's just not bound out anybody. No. I mean, why would I give anybody that satisfaction to... Right. We need it for clickbait, so if you just say a name, it'd be great.

You don't mind just anybody, you know, starts off to get these views up here a little bit, you know. So how's the AFC North Conference, Lamar? Sears just got Kenny Pickett. Yeah. I got to ask you, like, what are your thoughts on the Baker situation? That's a tough situation. You know, he was hurt. Hurt all last year.

And, I mean, every time we play him, he balls. yeah he first time we played him thursday night week two in my rookie year that was uh we lost like 30 to 34 something he bawled and then the next time we play him i throw for 400 yards and he goes like 25 and 28 with five touchdowns goes on a two minute drive touchdown won the game i haven't beat the browns yet he beat us both times this year year. I guess I didn't play a second game because we had it all locked up, but the first one, he bawled. Why do you think his situation is so like up in the air? You know, I think when you have a guy like Deshawn, you know, you got to take a chance at that because he's such a great

player, but Baker will land on his feet. He's a really good player. You like going up against them, the Ravens, Lamar? I love playing the Ravens. Just had two crazy games last year. Yeah, I love playing the Ravens because they talk. They talk a lot? They talk. I love that. I feel like the score was 47 like 20 it was a lot too little yeah but both times yeah you beat them one time they beat you one time no we beat them both oh really yeah i threw for five 20 something in the second one and i threw for 400 and something in the first one fucking jama i had like 260 some yards in the first game yeah but yeah i love playing the ravens they like to talk and so when i don't i don't start the talking but i usually if somebody you know pokes me i can talk a little bit it's good for the

game though right yeah i think it is you see i mean jalen rams he's a talker um everybody on the ravens matt mat mat mat judon patriots best trash talker in the league that's right one of his lines new england yeah damn straight what does he say best coach bill bellichick why does that guy click he had to say best coach ever bill he was so i'm serious all right chill bob i'm sorry um my rookie year we're playing we only i only played baltimore one time i rookie because i got hurt But he, I mean, even if it's not a play that he did anything, I mean, he's talking. Yeah. And I love that.

Unfortunately, we stunk that year, so I couldn't really say anything back. But I think we played Patriots this year, so that would be fun. Welcome to you playing us at home? Not sure. But you come into Foxborough, you're in trouble. I think we might be coming to Foxborough. Mack Jones. Good player.

Right around. What do you think of Mac? Great player. Really good. It was impressive. What do he just fit right in. to what they were trying to do. Have you played against Belichick yet?

Have you had any interactions with Belichick? I met him once in Miami. I got to hear this story because I met him once with Sequin. It was the funniest thing ever. What was your interaction with Belichael? I was going to, what's the Steakhouse in Miami? Prime 112? Yeah, that's where I was going.

And that was right before my draft. So I was at the Super Bowl, right after my last college year. And it was he and Matt Patricia, and I just went up and introduced myself, shook their hands. He didn't really say much. Yeah. He's just like, we have no chance of getting you. He doesn't care. Yeah.

right basically bellichick was like this i met i was with sayquine because i was living with sayquine and sterling shepherd for a year and uh we saw him a catch and i was like i went fucking crazy because i'm a diehard new england fan so i'm like craig you got to fucking i don't care like you got to get belichick i need a picture with him like i just you know and so belichick came over he's like yeah you're doing nice to meet you he's like i'm like bill can i get a picture he's like yeah as long as you uh you don't put on that fucking snap face then i'm like all right and i never have i never posted the picture because bill Belichick gave me instructions to never post you better not post the picture

what are what are the expectations for this year what expectation is always to win the Super Bowl you think you're better this year than last year for sure Joe's winning the fucking Super Bowl next year I'm rocking a burrow jersey the whole entire we got to go to a game in Foxborough can we go to the opener no not in Foxborough no I can't do that I can't do that I'm a die hard knowing of it you play against Patriots I hope you guys get fucking bearer getting field passes are we not like I hope you guys don't really I don't know how to do that oh I've never done that.

I've never got anybody field passes. It's a nice way you're saying. If you pick up the phone, you call the GM. I mean, we say I got Bob Mennery. We don't have 18 field passes. You guys don't have a GM? You guys don't have a GM? Well, call the fucking president.

Bob needs 18 field passes. Don't even drop Bob to say, hey, to Joe, I need three passes. Doesn't matter who it's four. Yeah, I could probably do that. Yeah. But you're not going to. Maybe I will.

Maybe I won't. We'll see how the pod does, right? It just depends how this thing is edited. You know what I mean? That's it. But no, going on the field is the sickest thing ever. I mean, he gets to do it every time, but it's pretty sick. I think what people that don't play realize when they're on the field is how violent it is.

Because it's loud. And people are running really fast hitting each other. That's what my mom always says when she would come down during college and in high school, that it was very violent. Yeah. But they've always been super supportive, right? Oh, yeah. Is that a scare for your mom?

Are you getting hurt? Oh, I'm sure it was. She was pretty good at keeping it together. She's tough, but I'm sure, she was very worried. The league's tightening up now on all the rules and everything now, right? Meaning, I mean, all the hits of the head stuff. Yeah, if you're playing well. Right.

What do you mean by that? Like I said before, you've got to earn your calls. So you think the reps are more biased at times? My rookie year, I got zero roughing the passer calls. Shit. How many do you think there were that should have been? I mean, there was a couple every game. Right.

and then this year first half of the year zero and then I think at some point somebody made a call I was like hey we got to keep this guy

on those cardier glasses you put on those cardier glasses get two million likes and you're now getting calls yeah you've a bunch of fits planned out for next year not yet

they kind of just form the week of I'm definitely going to have to go shopping here soon though he's a caption guy I am a caption what was your strongest

IG captioning anything ever? I think the Cartier was... That shit went viral, bro. Yeah. Black turtleneck? The other one that went viral was the cigar thing. After winning the Heisman, that thing went crazy.

That was, I think, what actually blew you the fuck up was that moment with the cigar. Yeah. So, we bring all this... That was after the national title. We were going to smoke all the cigars in the locker room. And we started smoking them. And the cops come in. I guess you're not allowed to smoke inside or whatever.

And they start trying to arrest people in the locker room. Yeah. After it fucking. After we won the national... We're like, what's going... No, I support the... So, Gar's should be mandatory to smoke a gar.

What state was this in? This was in Louisiana, yeah. We played in New Orleans for the national title. They were arresting players? They were trying to. And then I think they finally realized like, then they got some gars in their hands and shit.

Yeah, and then they joined the party. So they just, there was a bunch that came in and they were just like confronting you guys and saying, hey, you're either put it out or you're being arrested? Yeah. Wow. That's insanity.

Yeah. That was your most viral thing, I think. Yeah. That's kind of what started. all was that that montage or whatever was when you walked out the slow motion famous thing video was that like planned or was it just shot by somebody i mean i was just smoking the cigar on the way to the to the press conference and obviously there's a bunch of cameras everywhere so they just kind of filmed it you were on cloud nine oh yeah was that the greatest accomplishment of your life

yeah i lost a state title in high school lost a super bowl won the national title so i got got to get another one what was the final score of that game do you remember 42 to 25 i think Oh, yeah, you guys dominated. Yeah, you guys. But we got down 17 to 7 early. Mm-hmm. And then we came back. How many tetties do you throw?

Five. All right, that's right. MVP? Yeah. It's crazy, bro. Not bad. It's crazy because the NFL now it's dominated by young quarterbacks. There's so many good ones.

I feel like it's so many good ones. Right? I think it's easier than ever to come in and play well because it used to be. Why? I think coaches are really good at understanding what a player did. in college and forming the offense around a guy. And I think receivers are better than ever, too. And so there's so many good receivers that helps quarterbacks out.

You know, we're getting the ball out of our hands faster. You know, defenses are still complex. But, you know, you kind of see everything in college now, too. And so it's just the games are meshing. College game is similar to the NFL, is similar to high school more so than ever. and I think you just get more reps. Well, every game's, like, super competitive in the NFL, obviously. That's the main difference between the NFL and college.

Like, college, you guys would play some trash-ass teams, right? Where the team was just terrible. Yeah. And so, like, who was the weakest team that you guys played in LSU? I mean, you play some, got some teams in there in the middle of the year that are just garbage. Like, what are we doing? Right. And then how are you preparing the same way for that game as you are against?

No. Not really. You just have fun with the trash teams? I mean, we're like, yeah, you know, maybe you make a throw in a different game that, or maybe I'll hold on to this one and try to make some people miss and run for a first down instead of making that throw. That's fucking wild. What was the biggest blow at you guys had at LSU?

I don't know. We scored 60 or 70 in one game, I think. Yeah. That's crazy. I mean, I think that's why, I mean, not a lot of the great quarterbacks in the NFL come from big-time schools. And I think, you know, I've thought about this quite a bit. You know, guys like Josh Allen and Mahomes and those guys, they come from, you know, smaller schools, Texas Tech, Wyoming, and you play in a lot closer games.

So you have to understand how to win. I think that's what the NFL is, understanding how to win because every game is going to be within seven points. It doesn't matter who the team is and what do you do down the stretch. You got to know how to win. is it like the coverage the game just becomes a lot more like the secondary for instance right the difference between college and football's weather

just like less time yeah but you know the receivers are a step above too I think the main difference is the defensive line is the defensive line in the NFL every single team has a pass rusher that's going to get to you it doesn't matter who you have on the O line

pass rush is going to get to you at some point yeah we usually smoke weed sometimes for episodes once in a while we always just do it obviously you you're too like i just it's killing me that's why i'm going through withdrawals right now but did they just did they just reduce for for nfl players and they just take away that you can smoke weed in the offseason they we get tested yeah you get tested but aren't you aren't you for anybody the NFL players that wanted to smoke weed in the off season are they allowed to smoke weed we get tested two weeks during camp okay not during the season not during the season just during camp two weeks

So we'll link up at some point during the season or not. Absolutely not. It's good. It's sometimes revealed, you know, if it's used medicinally, it's good. Yeah. So what else do you do besides football? Anything? A game a little bit.

What do you game in? I watch UFC every weekend. Let's go. Who's your favorite fighter? I like Sugar Sean. He's awesome. You met him? I was at his fight.

I haven't met him, but I was at his fight. Shout out Sugar Sean. Yeah, that's a huge. He's fighting July. Yeah. Yeah. I think he was fighting Almeida. Why do you like him?

I mean, he's dribbling between the legs, popping. That's awesome. Yeah. You should go to the fight. Yeah, I think I might go to it. It's close to camp, so I'm going to be locked down. If you need me to make a call, let me know. I think I can make some calls myself.

Yeah, but if you need a stronger call, I got you. No, this guy's, no. You don't want that call, trust me. Oh, now we got something here. What do we got here, huh? Jeff Ruby's himself. Oh, look at this. Viral.

We don't want to block the cameras here. We got to see it here. Oh, it's our signature. J.R. Woodford Bourbon Cigar. So speaking of cigars. That's amazing. Oh, my God. That's amazing. You could have that.

That's a fat boy. Did you watch Olivera Gachie? Yeah. Gachy was the last episode, right? Yeah. Yeah, they fought Saturday, Thug Rose and Asparza, and then Chandler, Ferguson. Chandler's a beast. That was a crazy card.

Front kick to the face? Oh, my God. Did you see the picture of Ferguson's face? Was that real? Yeah, that's real. I thought that was like a filter or some shit. Yeah, he looks fucking. That was crazy.

Cheeto Vera hit, who did he hit with that? He had the same thing earlier this year. Frankie Edgar. Kick Frankie Edgar in the face. When did you start getting to the UFC? I've been watching that since I was little. Oh, yeah. The show got, remember John Jones.

The first one I ever watched was the first UFC on Fox. I think that was. Is that bare hands? No. It was Velasquez. and was that the Shogun days? Yeah,

those are the Shogun days. You see what happened to him? Yeah, God, that sucks. No, I think, I don't know exactly what happened.

I don't want to misspeak, but I think, like, his daughter got... Somebody got fucked with, I think, yeah, and then he just...

His daughter got, like, sexually, like, assaulted or some shit, and then he went after the guy and just, like, lit up his car. He didn't kill him, though,

right? I don't think so. No. But everyone's, everyone's kind of taken his side because the... I mean, imagine your daughter.

daughter like so fuck dude yeah i don't i don't know how i would handle that that that guy's a legend too came the last game's had some great fights back the day john jones the spitting elbow that remember that if you document that john jones in his prime was just that's why you pray he comes back in the sport i think yeah i'm excited for him coming back he needs to come back like what is he waiting for i think they're just waiting for a fight he's had two years i think he's going to end up fighting stepey sometime this year yeah he uh that's spinning elbow he threw against the showgun was the best clip of all time he gets in trouble do you have do you feel like you got to take care of these guys off the field what guys like your team

like if they're acting up and shit you definitely got to look out for some guys they're just like the party and stuff some guys definitely like the party yeah at the club do they have curfews are they strict curfews in the uh the dragon speaking again they have uh strict curfews with the NFL like before game days do they check in like on the road yeah but i guess we stay in a hotel on home games too yeah but i mean after the games are the single guys Are the single guys allowed to have visitors? No. No.

Who checks on that? You check on that? You go door to door? Joe goes door to door. On the road, you mean? Yeah, on the road. You can't have anybody in the hotel. Sometimes, though, might, I mean, I don't know if I agree with that.

That's had to have happened. Wow. You know why? Sometimes I think a little release might help. I'm going to be honest with you. A little release might help. I know you're in the NFL. I'm going to say a different way.

People got to break that rule. Hell yeah. I'm sure people do, yeah. especially if you're on a bad team it's not winning yeah you're just going to sit in your hotel room all day right

it would be a mess but I'm in a happy relationship so I'm all good just want to throw that up there you guys go to a bunch of UFC fights huh a lot yeah should come with us we'll trade you seats for field passes

all right let's do it let's do it I think we should but when is sugar fighting again soon yeah it's July 2nd have you talked to him ever we just asked that Oh, shit.

My fault. They did. You're all good. Yeah, we should. We should at least go to... They're awesome. There's nothing like the... Especially, too, the cool part about what Dana does is Dana's a very good host.

Yeah. So, Dana, what he has is that little back room, too, for his, like, little family and friends. Yeah, I went to the... I went to the Stepe Francis fight. That was the last one that didn't have any fans at the Apex. Ah. That was awesome. When there's no fans, there's crazy.

I mean, the kicks are so loud. I know. It's awesome. You guys always said so many times, but you are. We're in Abu Dhabi for Khabi Gajee. Oh, no way. That was crazy. Yeah.

No, barely any fans. That's awesome. Just like Abu Dhabi princes and shit. I love it. I'm not kind of not, but I mean, this has been a great thought.

I think it's been awesome, Joe. We really appreciate it. Thank you, man. And I hate to say, you're my number two favorite team in the league. So I'm really sure of Cincinnati since you came out. You're absolutely crushing, bro.

Like, We support it. We appreciate it. It's cool to sit down to people that are just dialed in their craft. You learned so much, right? I mean, you're looking at one of the best to do it and he's here for a long time. 100%.

Excited to cheer for you on the sidelines. Actually, on the sidelines, on the field. Yeah, it would be fun. Yeah, let's do it. We'll shoot the game. 18 field passes. Appreciate it, brother. Joe, thank you.

Let's go.