FULL SEND PODCAST - John Summit x Nelk Boys | Ep. 92

Episode Date: July 7, 2023

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All right. We got a dope pod today. We got the man. This guy's absolutely blowing up right now. John Summit. What's up? Thanks for having you. Flew straight from Miami here to OC to do this pod. And then you're straight to Vegas tonight. Yep. Tonight. And then this weekend I got everything. So I'm doing Toronto, Chicago. Where at in Toronto? Toronto, it's like on some island called Electric Island. Okay. I'm from Toronto. Oh, okay. Yeah. That's dope.

Yep. We met in Gecko about like what, two months ago maybe or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And then, you're having dinner with Dave Grutman. Yep. And then he introduced us and he said, you guys got to get John Summit on the pod. I've literally never seen anything like his come up and what's going on right now. Shout out, Dave. So I literally told him, I'm like, bro, I'm down.

Like we said, we're down. We added in a group chat. I'm not even lying. I think he called me 10 times in like the next 24 hours. I wake up like 6.30 a.m. He's calling me. He's like, yo, you got to do this pod, bro. I'm like, dude, I already told, like, we're already setting it up.

Like, we're in a group chat. we're with his assistant we're doing it calls me like two hours later he's like bro you got to do this trust me i'm like bro we're locking it in like we got this but how cool is that that like i feel like every like for someone like dave to be like you know saying he's never seen anything like you're come up it's kind of wild like i did not expect it whatsoever it kind of happened overnight for me but um it's kind of sick that everyone's pushing me and stuff because i've been just doing my own thing for like six years now and these past couple years have been fucking What do you mean when you say overnight?

Like, it didn't actually happen overnight, but when it, like, the shows just went from, you know, 1,000 people and then like the next month, 10,000 people. And then I just did EDC last month, and that was like 100,000 people on my set. And before all this, you were CPA, right? Yeah, yeah, an accountant, desk job in Chicago. That's crazy. Yeah. So you went to, you went to U of I?

Yep, University of I. What was it like there? It was sweet. You know, I did all the college bars and I was in a fraternity. and all that and so I did all of the shitty frat parties so I was a terrible DJ back then but you were still DJing the frat parties then yeah yeah okay and then I moved to Chicago started doing like the underground parties there and whatever and then what are those what's an underground Chicago party it's like all the parties where you're like you can't like legally do

parties I guess so like warehouses and shit like that fuck I got to go to one of those yeah those are different no you can't you can't get into the underground party scene though you're already you're already a DJ and I can get don't get too into the fucking house day dance music scene. Yeah, that's probably not good for me. It's a rabbit hole, man. It's sick, though. So where does it elevate from the underground Chicago parties? So then you, like, do the clubs and stuff. But it was mostly because, like, I couldn't get booked at the clubs because, like, no one knew who I was and stuff. So it's, like, the DIY parties and show like that. When does it kind of, like, change where you start to get, like, booked?

Well, so releasing music and stuff, then your music just starts to blow up. So my first song that, like, really blew up was called Deepen, which was, like, during COVID. You know, it was just like a popular fucking TikTok sample that I found on the internet, which I did not expect to blow up whatsoever. And then from there, I started doing all like the illegal kind of parties in Florida during COVID because that was the spot to be. And then from there, it just all started. So you were partying a lot during COVID too?

Oh, yeah. That's why I live in Miami. That's where I got all my friends because I was there every single weekend. We were doing that too. We were getting so much shit. We almost got like our YouTube channel deleted. Like they sent us like an email and said like, they said it was like, off-platform responsibility.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, because you weren't, like, too far away from each other or something? No, we were just fucking, like, we just had to keep our business going. Yeah, exactly, exactly. That's how I was. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because I'm not going to, like, stop playing music. I mean, that's what I do every weekend.

Yeah, you literally have no choice. So did the TikTok sound that you use or you sampled? That's what really helped get your name going. Well, kind of, because then I got assigned to a big label called a defected that's in the UK. And then from there, like, kind of like, that put, like, my name out there. And then from there, I released a new song, like, every three weeks for, like, two years straight. Yeah. And then it was just crazy.

And where are you dropping, like, the tracks on at that time? Like, all platforms? Yeah, so I was already signed a label as, like, starting from 2016. So I've been around for a minute. But all it takes is, like, that one big break in this. And then it's kind of not and stuff. Well, at that time were you, like, was that, like, your strategy to drop a lot of shit? Or were you just kind of fucking around?

It's a shock and I'm sure it's kind of the same for you guys. When you first out, it's like, you do ever. Yeah, exactly. And then once you go viral once, and then it's like, oh, shit, we actually have followers. Yeah. And then you just keep, keep going. But then the pressure's on, right? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. So then you, when did better than this come out? So better than this, that was like the year after that. So that was, and that was like during the summer. And that was like, especially because everything was open in and all the festival started. So that was like, by one feel good track, you know? Yeah. I'm trying to learn more about the DJ scene,

but it seems like there's two types. Like, there's DJ. that really just make their own songs and then people that play other people's music. So I would say like in the touring side of things everyone makes their own music. But then I still play other people's music too and I do edits or everything. And then the DJs are other people

play other people with songs. Those are the DJs you go to like the clubs and like kind of like not the ones you see headlining festivals. Yeah, yeah. So to be the headliner you got to be like making your own shit. But I feel like there's a lot of DJs now

that aren't making their own shit that will still do like Vegas pool parties and stuff like that too, no, or am I wrong? No, no, you're right. So they're still those. But usually they, like, got their name big somehow, like, I don't know, I'm not naming names or whatever, but if you had, like, a big hit back in 2013, and then you can still be huge now because of that.

Yeah. That's something I actually want to ask you, because now, I want to talk about that. Fucking influencers, they get this following. Yeah. They just become fucking DJs, and they're performing the biggest parties. Exactly. Exactly. Because it's just because they can sell tickets.

But does that, is that, like, insulting to DJs that blinded and shit? I don't know, they get a lot of shit, that's for sure. Yeah, you can't really respect somebody who like has a million followers or decides, I'm going to DJ one day and then they're headlining, or not headlining, but they're doing the same festival. Where it's like, I mean, I don't mind it like too much myself because it's not like a threat to me at all or whatever.

But like, as long as they're throwing a good fucking party, I guess it's all matters. Yeah. But yeah, you're not going to see them like, I guess, doing huge sold-out shows at places. That's like, I honestly, I'm thinking about doing that. I don't know if you're doing that. I don't know if you're doing it. I don't know if you're, I don't know if you're selling tickets, but yeah, I don't know if I could last a whole set up there.

Yeah, yeah, no, I can teach you. Oh, fuck. Well, I'll do that all day. I'll take you up on that. Has there ever ever been a time when, like, because you say, you party back there. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah.

Where, like, you're maybe an hour and a half into your set. You're like, well, I'm getting a little too. When I'm on, like, hour, like, seven of my set, that's how I feel. Or is it, or is it the more hammered? I don't fucking jump change, bro. Yeah. Is it the more hammered you get the better or does it like start to affect your performance? I think that until I watched the videos afterwards and I'm like, I was way too trash learning that.

But like when you're on the ducts, you think you're good. I don't know, I call it like the hot tub effect where it's like, you know, if when you're drinking the hot tub and you're there for like three hours, you don't feel drunk at all. Then when you get out, you're like, that's how I am in the DJ decks where I'm like, I'm perfect. And then I leave and I like, my manager has to help me kind of walk down the steps. Has there ever been the time that you've looked back? has there ever been a time that you've looked back at like a video or some shit and be like damn i was actually trash oh yeah oh yeah yeah especially if i go to some place for an after party and they start filming me and then i just see it the next day on ticot and then like

the anxiety i get i'm like i'm such a fucking but but that's kind of like become like that's like similar to us too it's like kind of like become a part of your brand exactly like partying stuff yeah i think we can get away with it that's gonna bang on like your tic talk and shit right yeah yeah yeah yeah and like i it's good that it is part of my brand because then it's like I feel like I can get away with anything when it comes to that versus like if you're like you're like clean cut yeah that's the worst yeah yeah yeah yeah because then one bad thing yeah yeah exactly and then if you're like I mean I don't plan on being a fucking politician one day or anything yeah so I think I'm all right 100% how do you choose like

your sets yeah I'm gonna give you I had an experience at a club in Vegas okay and this is one of those influencer yeah yeah yeah like now DJs I'm looking at my friend and I'm like I was gonna say fuck is on the ox right now like the vibe the club is dead. Yeah. Oh, so they're bad too. I was just like, oh,

this is like, what is this? No one's having a good time. So how do you know what set you're going to go with? Like, do you read the crowd or do you have a place? I was telling you before we started this

that in Vegas at first I didn't like it at all because like I wasn't as big. But now that everyone knows my music and stuff. And so I'm playing my own music. I'm basically doing my festival sets and like a bunch of edits and stuff. Oh, I mean, I just figure too because it's like EDC,

completely different vibes. You see you have all the kids with like all the rave gears or in the tutus and all that shit. Like they love it all. And then like in Vegas, you know, it's like bachelor's at parties and shit. How did you, how does it work like the business of like getting booked? Like how does like a DJ like raise their booking fee and how do clubs go about like how do you negotiate your price? So I have agents for that. Yeah.

It's supply and demand. And yeah, the money I'm making now is obviously a lot different than like the year before. And, like, I mean, in 2020, before 2020, I was a full-time DJ, I quit accounting in 2019. I was making like $750 a gig total. Like, that would be a good night for me. $750? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. In which I would say that's like the typical DJ.

But, you know, if I'm selling 10,000 tickets at, you know, $100 each, then you kind of do the math. Do you feel like the same for every kind of venue? Or does it change like Vegas to a festival? It's like less in Europe than America right now because obviously America's fucking massive. And then Vegas or something can be pretty high because, like, last time I played Vegas, the guy behind me, he spent $250K on his table. And he was buying $75,000 bottles of Aces of Spades, which I think you can buy, like, at Binnie's for $750 bucks. That's ridiculous. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And I didn't realize, like, that's what he had. And then so he hands me the bottle. He's like, yo, like, pour it, like, to this girl. And I'm like, whatever. So I just started pouring it in my mouth. Like, I didn't hear him because I was DJing. I had, like, sprayed, like, half the bottle because then I started spraying it. in the crowd.

Oh, yeah. And then the guy who, like, far of the club, he's like, yo, he just paid 75K for that bottle. I'm like, fuck. So is that, that's what Sammy told me too, though. It's like, is part of the business for these venues? Yeah. Whoever, whatever DJ is going to bring the biggest spenders?

Mm-hmm. That's, and that can like, like, like, so a club might be like, you know, John Summit brings, like, big spenders every time. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And that's why we can, like, afford a chart. Exactly. They don't care about ticket sales there versus, like, when I play, like, a huge venue, like, say, like, like,

Brooklyn Mirage in New York, it's more about tickets. Because that's like, that's how they get their money. That's so crazy to me. Was the guy pissed when you did that with the bottle? Probably not at that point. I think that guy was just so dumb loaded. He thought it was like, he was videotaping me. He's like, John, spring my bottle.

So I think he was happy for that. But you can't get off the wrong people. That's for sure. For sure. It's a fuck ton of money. Yeah. Do you notice? Because we talked earlier about how the scariest place in the world is space for me.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. But do you ever like look in the crowd and you're just like, That guy's fucking on Pluto right now Oh yeah the first like So I just played space last week And the first three hours Is this guy with the sunglasses on Munching like he's like a fucking llama

eating grass and it was kind of tweaking me out a little bit Yeah that's funny But yeah it's the last to noon during his set I'd say people are taking a lot of Performance enhancers To get there You have to

You have to Yeah you have to I just wonder like when you're up there If you're like looking at the crowd And noticing Oh yeah it's the best It's the best So for people that don't know space, like what, what is space?

Obviously, everyone in Miami knows. So the background of that club is that it's been like an institution since the 90s. And it's kind of like Europe meets America. An institution, a mental institution pretty much. Yeah, basically. And so like all the European DJ and stuff like that, if you know, like Salman, Michael Crowe, like, you know, Black Coffee, they're kind of legends for going super long and their sets. And it's like one of the only place is it has a 24-hour electric license.

So I get on at 6 a.m. and I'll play to like 4 p.m. there. And then the crowd has slam-packed the entire time. Okay. So walk us through that. You go on at 6 a.m. You know you're performing at space. Yeah, yeah, yeah. What's your like process before that? Yeah. My process is that I legit actually like sleep up into, so I go to bed at like 8 p.m., wake up at 4, have a couple shots of espresso. The biggest, I think, like, like the worst move you can do in Miami is pregame before going out. Because when you know he go out. Because then I still do an after party afterwards. Yeah.

Wait, you go do an after party after space? Yeah. So isn't, but is that like a pregame for the next night? Yeah. So I'll go through the next night. So yeah, I just did that. What day is it say? Thursday.

Yeah. I did that Saturday. And we kept it going to my place to like 8 p.m. and Monday. Yeah, it's weird. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's kind of fucked. Miami. You guys got to go next time.

We should... We should go to space. We should like do like bringing the camera into space and like... No. Do that. Like go to bed at 8 p.m. wake up. Yeah, no, no. Do it professionally. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

I'll do it that way. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I can't go start that night and then make it do that. Oh, no, no, no, don't start that night. You'll say that, but then you'll do that. You'll be like, oh, I'm going to go out. That'll be a horror film, bro. Well, I went to, I went to Gecko the night before at 7 p.m.

And that's when Dave gets giving me so much shit. He goes, who the fuck eats at 7? I'm eating with, like, the bar staff. If I'm like, because I eat and then I legit go to bed afterwards. What's some of your, like, biggest, I hate to use this wherever, are, like, just people are always coming in the DJ booth? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Things that piss you off at anybody.

Yeah, things that piss me off. I hate when, uh, girls are just fucking annoying because they're always, you know, try and get the videos and they're always, like, touching me and shit, which I hate, which is why I got, like, a tour manager and security to make sure that doesn't happen, but I do like to have, like, a whole on party in the booth. so I guess it's uh it's when well I guess when girls tries touching the decks so that happened last Saturdays like during one of my biggest photos in one of my tracks it was like right before it's about to drop and she like pressed stop on it

and then she goes woo and I was like music stopped yeah the music stop and there's a video of it I look at her I was like oh my god I was so pissed but yeah no one cared though did she know what she just did no because I think she was just so so like lit that she had no idea that's brutal yeah yeah but that well when I'm playing, like, big festivals, I'm playing Coachella, no one's on stage, yeah. I feel like that is, like, the fun part of a house party, though, is that, like, it is a little sloppy and people fuck.

Like, no one gives a fuck. What do you, what do you prefer? Like, what's your favorite place to? My, I mean, I love house parties and I love after parties, just because there's no rules. How often are you booked for house parties as opposed to? That's, that's more, like, like, I usually, I don't even get paid for them.

That's more, like, just showing up for it's more. Like a friend? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. if it's like a private party for like a wealthy client or something like of course I'm getting paid but yeah I try not to do that too much because I play like five to six shows a week now that's probably the only way we could get like chicks to this house let's make it happen bro I know he might just post something after this what do we got five hours to go yeah yeah yeah we have a little day I could I mean I can push my flight back again I'm telling everyone I'm going out with you to in LA let's do it This is how it all starts, man.

I knew this pod right after a bendy, too. We just did three days in New York. I was like, oh, is this going to turn into a send again? But this makes the best content, too. Yeah, that's true. That's true. Do you have, because every single time, like, when we go to XS a lot behind the DJ booth, there's that whole private section?

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Does someone just bring chicks in there, or do you pick them? Be honest, have you ever looked in the crowd and like, yo, that girl's beautiful. We need to get her back. Oh, a thousand percent. Yeah, that's, you know, to her manager. It's like if they're having a good time. Why the fuck would you not do that?

Yeah, exactly. I mean, I know. But yeah. No, I'm like, dudes only. No. No, but usually there's like, I know, I know a lot of people. And there's every city I go to, I know, normally know, I have a good squad. So.

Yeah. What would you say it is about, like, kind of like the movement that you have right now? Like, why do you think, why do you think in your opinion it's so special? Um, I think it's because, like, first of all, I think the music is good. If it's then second of all. It's the, I think it's like authenticity and like, I don't give a fuck. And it's not like, like everyone else, like, especially with DJs is also formal on social media and not like where I'm all about the party and all about, I don't know, I feel you guys are kind of the same way. Just like they're not giving a fuck that people are like charged to.

Because when you go on social media, you want to go, you want to go to something that feels like it's authentic and no rules kind of thing. Exactly. So I can guarantee you if we party, we're going to have good. good time for sure what what's the goal in terms of like obviously doing clubs and all that but people sign residencies yeah yeah yeah so is that like what you want at the end of the day is to have a residency or you want so that's not the goal for me for for me is throwing my own parties because i've been like because like i just did like a huge party out and like outside of Nashville and like in the middle of these caves which was fucking nuts i saw that and so yeah a few

thousand people came out to that it's what you mean in the middle of a cave yeah yeah yeah it's like two hours outside of Nashville and we had like a little like you can bring RVs and like camping and shit and um we just like sent it for two days straight in there and it's just a cave yep yeah no but it's like it's like a dope cave that like you can actually like explore and stuff and we add like a bunch of lights and lasers and stuff like that and you set this whole thing up yeah yeah yeah with like my team and stuff so and you guys just sell tickets yep that's so that's like a thing i saw i saw you said you're like an outdoors guy like you want to go for those yeah kind of create parties in like the middle of nowhere

Exactly. Yeah. So we got like Tulum in January coming up. I mean, I want to do shit like even like bum fuck like Idaho or something. I don't go. Like we're just like a giant open land and then we set up a huge stage. I have like drink tents and all that. And yeah, I'm trying to do my own festivals and stuff. Yeah. Fuck, bro. I feel like you get the fans or people that attend those, you got to be a little. Yeah. You got to be ready to let yourself go. Oh yeah, yeah. The hardcore summit fans are like crazy in the best possible way. Like with Burning Man and stuff. Exactly. So I did Burning Man last year. And that was like my huge inspiration. I'm going to do that. What the fuck's that like? It's insane. I mean, I highly recommend it. It will kind of go to buy. Yeah, we want to do a video there, but I don't know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's worth it. I'm boys with Gordo. Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's out there. He did like 15 sets. Yeah, he's been telling me like you got to do. Yeah, yeah. But you would be surprised. Like I thought it was just going to be like a bunch of randos. I've never met my life. It's like I knew like half the people there it felt like. Are you at Tomorrowland too or no? I did Tomorrowland last year. Yeah. So I've done it all. I've done Coachella, Tomorrow Inn, Bonaroo, Walpulooza. Well, Paloosa is the first festival I ever went to because I'm from Chicago.

But yeah, and then the nice thing about residency, though, is that, like, it's, like, easy. It's just, and it's good money, obviously. Yeah. But that's not, I don't want to say, like, that's like the selling out version, but it's like. I was going to say, does that not kind of cap you on doing other things? Exactly, exactly. So, like, I got, you know, offers. do like 40 shows in Vegas, but right now I'm just doing 10 shows a year because that's easy. Yeah. In Vegas? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I'm not trying to, I don't know what

you guys think of Vegas, but when I'm in Vegas, I play one set and I'm like, I need to get the fuck out of here. Yeah, it's a quick turn around that city. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I do love it, though. It is fun, yeah. What's the business like of running your own festivals? Like, how did you get into that? Who'd you partner with and like? Um, so usually we'll partner with a local promoter there. And then it's like all my team that like kind of does like help does a production and everything. But then we don't have to outsource so lot of people to help build the stage and all that shit. So, hey, so what did you want to talk about? Well, I want to tell you about Wagovi. Wagovi? Yep. Wagovi. What about it? On second thought, I might not be the right person to tell you.

Oh, you're not? No, just ask your doctor about Wagoe. Yeah, ask for it by name. Okay. So why did you bring me to the circus? Oh, I'm really into lion tamers. You know, with the chair and everything. Ask your doctor for Wagofi by name. Visit Wagovi.combe.com for savings. Exclusions may apply. It is a fuck ton of work.

Yeah. Because even though I do like party a lot and stuff, it's, I have to spend like 12 hours a day and shit on it. So there's no time for hangovers. That's what I mean. Yeah. So like, does your team do the production or do you guys like? So we'll work with like the local,

because you have to work with the local vendors and stuff because I don't have like a bus tour. so I'm not traveling around with huge things of, yeah, yeah. Which, that's what was nice about the cave is the cave was already there. So we just had to go in, add a bunch of lights. So that worked out pretty well. Do you have a favorite all-time set that you've ever done? Just this past month, I did Red Rocks, if you heard of it.

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're from Denver? Yeah, I used to go up all the time. Okay, shit. You were in high school. You go up there, like a Vichy, bass nectar. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I used to be a big bass knackery.

their fan actually apparently he uh like like his last set there in like 2014 like the rock started to crumble and shit like that and when i think it was like the last time he played there like was 2015 or something shit like that yeah so uh which is kind of cool i don't know if you have you heard of this many of you before yeah i said i don't think you could handle it there but what red red red rock why not because it's a lot of that's a creature that's like space oh yeah yeah it's a it's sick though bro and like like all types of artists play there but that that was You bought tickets for your whole high school class and shit. Hey, you're like, I got this.

It's on my dad's pedic card. I got VIP for everyone. It's, uh, it's like, uh, it's 10,000 people though. It was like full on storing my entire set and no one left. So then in my whole, like it was Mother's Day. So my mom was there to occur on stage. How long ago was this? This was last month.

Oh my God. What do your parents think about like everything you're doing? Oh, they fucking love it. They love it. Like, they went from like, what the hell are you doing? Why do you quit your job? So I didn't, you know, talk to them for a couple months while I was doing this and then it started like and then 2020 happened and so I lived at home for a little bit

and then they actually saw all the work and stuff that went behind it you know because at first I think you're just fucking around you know what I mean yeah and um and now they're my biggest fans like they go to red rocks like my parents will go out to the clubs in Chicago and I'm not even there and get a table and shit what was that combo like of like telling them you're going to quit your job uh it was a tough combo but I mean I already lived on my own at that point and I was already you know, accountant, so I can kind of just do whatever I want. So they trust me. But, yeah, you know, I mean, if I had a kid and he told me he was going to be a DJ,

I'd be like, of course. It's probably the worst thing you could tell your parents, in all honesty. Like anything else, even. Now, like, a YouTuber might, it's like a DJ. They'd rather have me have like an only fan or some shit than me a DJ. Yeah, probably. But, no, it obviously worked out all right. That's dope.

Yeah. What has it changed? Like, were you pulling the way you were when you were? CPA, like you do now? Probably not, right? When I was a CPA, I had a girlfriend and stuff. So, and then as soon as that, you know, went full-time DJ, I'm like, that's not working out.

It'd be, it's pretty impossible to have a relationship with what you do. No, it's impossible. Do you think it is impossible? I truly think it's impossible. I mean, every, I mean, I can't really say too much, but I don't know. I would not trust any DJ, to be honest. but uh yeah life hasn't treated me well or bad in that regard so yeah i'm not complaining what it the life yeah well you have a fucking you have a big movement with chicks too yeah yeah

like i fucking when i followed you like 10 girls i'm following they're like like you liking your photos some of them i'm like he's main chick too so he's like it was like some girl i was like talking to miami i saw like she's like liking your photos and shit i'm like what the fuck's going on here but what what is that like because you're like you're like you have a lot lot of chicks, like in the booth and stuff like that. No, no, I mean, we have it a little different too, me and you than me. Yeah, yeah. Well, yeah, it's, it's fun, man. It's fun, you know? You got area codes. There's girls in every city that I'm friends with. And I mean, everyone's trying to have a good time, right? And I like to think I'm a good time when I play

and stuff. So, yeah, it's pretty fun. What do you do because that lifestyle does take a toll on your body? Yeah. Like, do you stay healthy or like, are you in the gym and, like, I try to too. I go to the jam like for 15 minutes twice a week. 15 in and out. In and out. I do my pull-ups, do my push-ups, maybe a couple of squats. Damn. Yeah, yeah. But I'm also like when I DJ, I guess I'm moving a lot. I'm doing like 50,000 steps to set. Yeah. Well, you're up there dancing. You feel like you got to perform. If you see me not dancing, something's wrong. Because I'm jumping up and down and everything. When you're about to go on, are you like, do you get nervous still or are you good at this point?

Yeah, I do get nervous for every set. well I don't know if it's nervous because obviously I mean you guys have some like really big podcast you get like for the like the really big ones you're very nervous and stuff like before we did Trump yeah I kind of fucking imagine Steve was there too I think we probably shock and like

I'm not even lying probably like six happy dads I was probably eight deep on the Trump interview he was three hours late so yeah it builds up and you get more and more nervous you're like pacing back and forth we're just like another another another yeah you shotgun six strings now you have to be during

oh yeah oh well we probably pissed like 10 times before that. Secret Service was getting pissed because they had to take us every time to make sure. They thought we were like trying to sneak in bombs or something at that point. We're just making runs in and out. That's why right when I get on stage and it's like a thing now and people think it's like I do

this like on purpose wherever, but right when I get on stage I do like a huge chug of tequila. Every time? Yeah, every time. But that's always just to get the nerves and show like that just because you have to they expect big performance every time. You can't just get up on ducks and you know. So that's your go to is

Tequila. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, because it's an upper. Yeah. It's like the only, it's only alcohol that's like a non-depressant, apparently. Don't cope me on this. I don't know shit. But it keeps, it keeps me awake. Good. What did you? So do you have a pre-ritual every time before that? I'm like kind of meditating in the green room. I'm like, people think I do like big pre-games and stuff, but. Quick smash and then you go out. Yeah. No, that's not for beforehand. Beforehand is just me. But, yeah, well, and I'm always working on music. Like, because every single set I do is completely different. Oh, really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I'm very big on that because I'll go to Vegas and I'll see some DJ, you know, who is big in 2012 and it's 2023 and they're still doing the same exact set like 10 years ago. So I'm like, are they just pressing play on a recorded set or something? Do any of the OG guys kind of hate on you? You don't have to call them out.

Maybe behind my back or something, but I'm friends with like almost all the D.E. DJs and stuff now, especially all the Vegas DJs and everything. Yeah, so I'm friends with all those guys. Is there any competitiveness in the space? Oh, it's ultra-competitive. In person, everyone's very nice and stuff like this, but I would say it's the most competitive because then you have the residences and stuff too, and there's only X amount of them, right? Right.

So, but there's no like backstabbing and shit. It's not like hip-hop or like, I've never heard a DJ disc track. I don't think. That's what I'm saying. DJs aren't like shooting each other. other and shit like that. No, no. Yeah, not yet. Snitching on each other. Maybe swooping girls, though. Yeah, yeah. Yes. If I had a girlfriend, I wouldn't trust her around any DJ. That's for sure. People always, like, do ask, like, how much are you really doing up there with, like, the knobs?

Yeah, I think I'm doing a decent amount. Like, sometimes when you're with the knobs, like, a lot of it is, like, unnecessary, just, like, taking bass out and adding some reverb and shit like that, but. Is there, like, a little bit less pressure? Like, can you have, like, a bad performance? Yeah, I have bad performances all the time. But the thing is like... But is that based on energy or like something you're fucking up? Oh. I can't think of the last time I've like really fucked up.

But it's just tough reading the crowd and stuff. So like when I played EDC, that was 100,000 people. That was the last month. And it was like half the crowd likes stub step. Half the crowd likes house. And so I tried doing a little bit of everything. And I couldn't tell like how that was going. Just because, you know, I don't plan my sets at all.

So I just go up there. And it's like, yeah, it's a little. Is that how most people do it? No, no, most people have shit, like, kind of pre-planned everything. Fuck. Yeah, yeah. But then, like, it's boring, though, right? Because I have fans, though, have, like, they've seen me, like, 40 times this year already.

So if I do the same set 40 times, they'd be like, this is boring as hell. Yeah, when you say that people have been doing the same thing from 2013. Yeah, yeah, it's nuts. I don't understand how that's possible. Haven't you got to Vegas? They probably just get lazy. Yeah, yeah, but have you gone to Vegas and, you know, like, I've been hearing this track on the radio for, like, ever, whatever. So, yeah, it's getting lazy, and they know what works.

So, are you dream? drinking every single set that you're doing? You've never done a sober set. I've tried. No, I did it once in like Kekoon because it was like an hour set and it was like a show

because normally all my sets are like 21 plus and Kankoomun was like 18 plus and I was a bunch of like so I'm like all right I'm not drinking around these kids right now. It's impressive though. How many like shots per set you think you're doing?

So if I'm drinking 1944 is my go to and so it's probably like I mean, you're not going to say some shitty stuff on here either. No, no, no, no. I do want to switch it up, though. So if you guys have any tequila recommendations. Yeah, but the bottle's too heavy.

I feel like I'm, like, drinking out of, like, a flower vase. Yeah. I'm drinking that. But I probably do, like, half the bottle with that. Holy shit. But I don't really get hangovers in anything, I guess. So once your set's done, do you have, like, you probably have a crew that you always roll with? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And there's always an AP? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And how do you get on that? like invite list or who you like like guys so yeah yeah I like guys but it has to be guys I know like I'm not like one of those DJs that like I know some of them that like it's like it's like them and like 50 girls afterwards because it's fucking boring it's like you need people you can't have too many chicks no no it's like a burden though too because I feel like I'm like walking around like a salesman trying to entertain everybody um do you collect phones before they get

in the room no no no no no I'm not I'm not I'm not at the level where it's NDAs and shit Oh, but that's a lot of photos, probably. It is a lot of photos, but I like getting photographed. Yeah, I guess, damn. There's nothing, we're never doing anything that bad. It's just a lot of work to collect phones. It is, it is. It is. It is.

We tried it like once or twice. Now it's just like, get the fuck in. If you have like, if you get a video, you get a video. Exactly. Exactly. It's like, I mean, you guys too. Like you're, we're used to being on video and shit like that too. It depends where you are too.

Like, if you're at a crib like this, the girls will fucking hand over their phone. Like, you know what I mean? Like if they pull up gated. But sometimes, like, we'll have, like, shitty rooms in New York. Oh, yeah. They're just like, no, I'm not giving up my phone here and shit. No, yeah, for here. They're like, I'd rather dip.

You have an AP every single time. Kind of have to at that point. Kind of have to. Yeah. So for the night shows, if I play to, like, 6 a.m., then it's like, no. But because I'm playing Vegas tomorrow, it's three to five. And then I have this giant suite of the Venetian. It's like, I'm not going to just sit there and by myself.

Right. And do nothing. Right. How often are you focused on? like you're doing making your own music so i do that try to do that at least two hours a day and then on like on days off it's pretty much six to eight hours so i'm very i'm very very disciplined about my time off like there really is no time off and like so i don't watch netflix or anything how do you determine what track is good enough

to put out there like you have your friends listen to it first so the labels i work with um So I just like signed this like deal with Interscope. Nice. You're in L.A. And then so they have like a big A&R team. And then and then it's just I play the new songs every set. Yeah. What's your process with like producing a track?

So I work with singers. So I do all laptop and headphones. So I work. So I don't like going in studios whatsoever. So like the like the singers I work with the girl working with now is from London or and this girl from Toronto too. And it's all like Zoom calls. And then from there, I've been making beats on my laptop for fucking years.

What do you use to produce? Ableton, if you heard of it. Yeah. Is Fruit Loops the thing? Fruit, it's the thing. I think that's a bigger thing in hip-hop. It's like hip-hop and like Brazilian kids use it. I don't know why that is.

And then logic is all like Europeans. But yeah, so like during 2020, I did like Ableton classes and I would teach classes like 10 hours a week. And you can see I have YouTube videos, how to make tech house and shit like that. So that is my, like, Fred and Butter is producing. So when you're working with, like, the singers you said, like, are you sending them beats and they're writing over it? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

And then, well, then they send me a lot of vocal ideas, and it's a lot of back and forth and writing lyrics and stuff like that. And then you try to get, like, a bigger artist, like, on that, based on that. No, no, so I primarily work with small artists because big artists are divas and they never have time. Right. So, like, I mean, it would be cool to work with, like, a dual leap or whatever, but it's, like, they have one hour free time every three months.

where the people I work with now are pretty much free 20 or 7. So when it's like 5 a.m. and a Biza, I can give them a call and they're up and ready to go. Do you have someone like that like a Duolipa type

that you really want to get on a track? Dual Lipa would be cool. She was backstage at a club I was at a few weeks ago. I didn't have the boss to say hi. I hadn't she just had that time. I know. I fucked up.

You didn't even go say hi? Well, it's like a little wave but not like good. Well, it's because my biggest pet peeve is when I'm out is when someone goes like, like, you know, yo, John, what's fucking work on a track together? Oh, yeah. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah, so I'm sure.

You could have just planted the seat and been like, yo, what's up? I know. I know. Yeah, the next day I was like, God damn it. Worst thing that happens. Those chicks are intimidating, though. No, it is. The boss chicks are like, fuck.

Yeah, especially if, like, you're trying to work with them, too, because. I'll approach it. Where has that gotten? You haven't been rejected enough. That's why. You're not used to reject you. Exactly. Yeah.

Once you've had it a lot, you just say, Fuck it. Yeah, I think I need you as my wingman that shit. Dude, I'll do that any day. What, like, what's your top three places in the world for hottest chicks? For hottest chicks? Well, Miami's number one, man. I agree.

It's, well, I just, like, all cultures and, like, Latino girls a lot. Me too. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And it's the best, bro. I like bilingual people, even though all I speak as English. in like Como Estos, that's all I know. But outside that, I guess,

New York and a visa. New York is fine. I haven't done a visa yet. Yeah, yeah, yeah. You haven't done a visa yet? Oh, I really need to do that. No, it's fun, it's fun. I mean, just because everyone from all over the world

goes there, so it's like a more, I consider it a more adult version of Vegas where it's kind of like an older crowd and the music's more mature. Because Vegas, to me, is like, all like bachelor or bachelor's at parties, like woo girls you know i don't want to throw shade of Vegas but i feel like it's like not as not what it used to be yeah yeah yeah it's not it's hit or miss but i actually feel like it's heating

up a little bit no it is it is it is and like my parties i think and obviously i'm clearly biased but they're getting really fucking lit in Vegas and stuff but when i just go on like a random night versus like abiza there's just so much going on every night what what are some of the differences you notice when performing in the states and then like europe uh states is I mean it's a rowdyer crowd I feel like I guess it depends though Europe's also different

because I mean we just we have just so many genres of music and stuff in the States and like obviously hip hop and everything's really big but then Europe is just like yeah just much a more mature crowd more respectful yeah yeah less cocaine in Europe too

probably less cocaine in Europe I feel like cocaine's not like a thing anymore though no yeah everyone at least like it's still it's still a thing but like i don't know i don't know like i feel like i don't know why sammy had to come to this one but uh yeah no no there it's like obviously a visa is a big big pill place you know you know that mike posner track i took a pill in a visa you know uh-huh it's crazy that fucking song's still banger that like made his career pretty much no i know but i think that's like the only song he really ever did right yeah because i think he like, like, started walking across the country afterwards.

I don't know if you saw all that. No, he went, he, like, he, like, walked, like, California and New York. I think that pill really fucked him up. Holy shit, bro. Maybe don't take the pill in the piece of it. I don't know. I recommend it. Yeah.

I'll try that. What do you think about, like, how, like, a lot of other genres of artists are trying to, like, kind of get into dance and, like, that type of stuff, like, Drake. I mean, Beyonce was the one that won dance album in the year. So, because her huge track, Break My Soul was a house track. I love it they've asked me to produce tracks like not those two people specifically

but like to produce dance tracks and stuff and I think anything that makes the genre bigger is better the only downside is that you get a lot of people into the genre that like don't really know dance music and stuff so the crowds can get a little weird but Drake

Drake is legit though like he goes out in Ibiza stuff out he's in McAnos all the time I see him at underground parties and shit so I have respect for him that. Yeah, that's crazy. It feels like rap slowly a little bit, kind of dying at time. Yeah, it's like, well, it's always going to be relevant on radio and stuff like that.

I mean, I'm so out of the loop, though, when it comes to rap. Like, I can't think of the last, like, hip-hop party or anything. It's just, I can't think of the last album that, like, I bumped for, like, a long-ass-time. No, like, I was just talking about that with my friends and managers. Is that, like, I don't know. Is it just because we're older and then, like, most of the rap you listen to was in high school? Because when I think of, like, rap, I think of, you know, like, could cutty Beck and they, all the old Kanye show.

And, uh, but yeah, there's nothing, like, I never was into the SoundCloud rap era. And then after that, I think it's just changing too a little bit. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like with social media, I feel like it's kind of a little softer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all like the kind of the lame TikTok hit shit. Like, yeah, it's like they're just trying to get hits. It's like not.

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Because these labels, I had to make sure when I signed a big label deal, I'm like, you never mentioned the word TikTok once to me because apparently these people like sign these big major label deals. and it's like, that's their goal is like, fuck a three-minute song. We need a 15-second TikTok clip

that can get it. That just gives you exposure, but at the end of day. No, but the thing is, like, the amount of songs I know that are viral on TikTok, I don't even know the artist or anything. So then they play shows and they sell 50 tickets, but they have 50 million stream, like monthly listeners on Spotify.

We did a podcast, probably like four months with Metro Boomin. And he said that he'll have artists come into the studio that, like, only want to get that TikTok Yeah, yeah, yeah, I won't even work with them. No, yeah, no, because it doesn't make any sense. It's just stupid. No, it has, it's made a lot of, like, I've seen a couple of DJs that have blown up from it. Yeah, DJs can, but, yeah, I feel like, yeah, for rappers and stuff, they...

It's a little tougher. I know, DJs is different, though, because there's some people that have, like, 50,000 monthly listeners, which is, like, nothing, and then they're selling out huge parties. How many monthly listeners are you got at this point, do you know? It's at, like, 7 million right now. Nice. Good for you. Yeah, which, it's good for dance music.

for sure that's crazy yeah yeah who do you think is like who's one of your closest DJ friends closest DJ so if you know who Dom Dahl is of course yeah yeah yeah so he's the homie and we're doing like we're like starting like this duo thing and we're calling the parties like everywhere everything always and it's gonna be we're just we're doing parties like all over like Seattle doing for electric zoo in New York if you know I'm talking about and um and he's like pretty similar when it comes to like taste and style but so different than me so yeah Is there, like, a respect for, like, the O.G.'s, like, daft punk and Dead Mouse. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. So my next, uh, my next remix that comes out in, like, a week

and a half is, I remember Dead Mouse and Cascade, which is, like, the song that got me to dance music. Nice, yeah. So it was, like, the very first electronic song I fell in love with. So, uh, so, yeah, I'm remixing. And then me and Cascade are headlining Hard Summer together. What do you think about wearing the masks? I think that shit's corny as fun. It's corny, but like, I feel like there's a... Well, like marshmallow and shit?

But it's like a thought like, yo, if I wear an outfit. It kind of runs out too. It's like, bro. No, it's a, it's a gimmick, bro. Got to put on the costume every day and shit? No, it did. It did help him make bigger, but I think everyone can see through it now and know it's as a gimmick. I mean, yeah.

Like, marshmallows got to wake up like a lot and just be like, fuck. I don't want to put that smelly-ass helmet back on. It smells like shit one day and shit. I don't know, bro. You could, if you, like, offer me a billion dollars, but I had to DJ the rest of my life with the helmet on, I would say, fuck off. Like, like, legitimately, though, like, because it just... The girls want you to put the mask on when you used to be...

Well, wait. Yeah, the helmet stays on. I think you're missing the point, though. Like, like, you're also, like, you're... They might not be good-looking people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They might be hiding something. That's true.

That's true. You know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because, like, if they don't know what he looks like, he's still pulling the same girls, but if his mask was off, it might not be the same. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true. I know a lot of DGs that could use a helmet on.

It's not a terrible idea. Yeah. All right. This is kind of old. I'm going to ask you. But did you see that quote by Diplo? The one that he's like no eye contact thing? Yeah. Is that like from partying and Tuminaid DJ sets or what's your take on that? Wait, wait, wait, wait. What was the quote again? He was like, no, he said I'm not gay. I do get head from guys. I just don't make eye contact. You know what I'm talking about?

Yes, I know what you're talking about. You've been obsessed with that quote since it came up. It's a little bizarre. You relate to that one. It's a hell of a quote, man. Yeah. I don't know. I feel like Diplo's been in the game so long and then... He's just trying new things.

And he, I'm sure, like, every girl you in LA, you know, knows Diplow. Yeah. So I'm sure probably a couple of dudes have somehow slipped under the radar. And he's just like, I've been bored of these chicks, fuck it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think it's a case that, you know, it's like you saw this only girl. If you're partying like that, yeah. You're bound to accidentally get head from a guy once.

Yeah, that's true. It's just a numbers approach, right? Yeah. And if you don't make eye contact or chilling. You know, it's, you know, the lights. are off. The guy could have pretty long hair. I'll fucking know. Yeah. Damn. Yeah. But yeah, I I can't say the same thing. So I can't. He's been in the game for a long time. Exactly. I don't know. By the time I'm 45, who fuck knows? Yeah. Maybe in 10 years, you'll be like,

Diplo has a point. Yeah. Yeah. Our follow up podcast in 10 years. We'll see. Yeah. How about like outside music like business, like, how do you your social media content and stuff too? Because you're pretty big on like social media. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Do you try to have, do you have any strategy with that or do you kind of just having fun with it? So it is just having fun with it. My favorite is Twitter just because I can just tweet a thought

that comes in my head and go, like, but when it comes to like TikTok and like Instagram, it is tough though because like, you know, it's like instead of making a song, I'll spend six hours in a day making a fucking TikTok or whatever. But what does help though is that because my shows are so

crazy and stuff and then I have videographers and stuff. They can do all that for me. Do you have anyone, like, sending you ideas for that type of shit or, like, putting shit together for you? Sometimes. That's why, like, I have, like, a team and managers and stuff like that. And, um, I don't know, I'm guessing you guys are kind of the same way, too, because the pressure is always on, though, because I have to always be making content all of the time while also making music while also traveling, touring every day. And then I'm still partying in between, which is, parting is just a let off the steam and stuff, too. Because, um, I don't know,

Do you guys kind of feel the same way, too? Of course. The pressure to make, like, it's a space. Yeah. Because that, the hangovers is not what gets me. It's the anxiety. Because it's like when I wake up after two days in a row and I'm like, fuck, I haven't posted anything yet. Yeah, for sure.

And, um. But then it sucks. Like, even for you, too. Yeah. Like we said earlier, it's like, sometimes like if we're like, oh, okay, we got to take a little break from drinking. Yeah. Then when we like drink, we just get content. Yeah.

It's like, fuck. It's like, I don't want to say it's beneficial, but it's like, fuck. No, it is. especially and just like even when you just want to go home and chill it's like you're not getting content when you're just singing home watching Netflix or whatever you know I mean so uh then you know I try to brainstorm everything but yeah it just uh it's like you know in an ideal world I would just only just release music and that's it but I do the way the way I get through it though is that like I think like when you do make fun content it is fucking fun and do you ever rip like sauna or like

the cold tub or something after like a night of drinking? No, I should. Do you recommend it? That's what we've been doing, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It helps. What do you do for your anxiety of your hangover? You just battle it? Just battle it, yeah.

Shut the blinds and watch a movie or some shit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all I haven't cooked a meal in like three years. Yeah, me either. Have you ever had like a really bad hangover? Like his, like after a big night, he'll like, we call it curtains closed. He just closes curtains and stays in the room all day. Yeah.

You ever been to that or no? I want to go out into Miami with me then. Yeah, I do 100%. The turns will stay open with that offer, but I'll be good. Okay, dope, dope, dope. Yeah, right. We've got to make that happen. Steady after space.

Yeah. Well, then what's the worst is you come back home and it's like noon, so it's bright as fuck. But I don't know, a couple of Avo goes a long way. Nice airport beer helps. Yeah. Oh, you're a big airport beer guy? Oh, big time. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

But now I get there so late. but airport beers are jokes it makes a flight way better it makes it way better I used to get have you ever seen the express massages oh my god at the airport have you never seen those

yeah I don't know if I trust like an airport masseuse though well you have to do it in front of everybody it kind of sucks but you get a fire shoulder up for 20 minutes yeah someone will come up to me because I have to take selfies all the time at airports and they'll be like

well I'm getting massage I guess your head is down though right so they'll see you yeah okay yeah I can maybe try that fuck yeah maybe we'll take that part out actually. But yeah, no, and then, you know, I can have a couple drinks in the flights and stuff, so.

It's going to be hard to believe you have an answer for this, but is there anything you miss about your life before all this? Yeah, I miss free time. And that's pretty much the only thing, right? But then too much free time, you go crazy. So, like, if I even have, like, just a day off, I get, like, anxiety because I feel like I always got to be doing something. Yeah.

Yeah, so you keep busy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the only thing that sucks, though, is the travel. Is, I don't know, are you guys traveling a lot? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's all balanced, like, if you're traveling, because you have, like, what, a 4 a.m. flight today? Yeah, or last night, or 9.30 p.m. last night.

Oh, okay. Okay, okay, that's not bad. So we land here at, like, 1 a.m. and then drive back. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, yeah, we will be ones like that. Because, like, Vegas, I play in my party tomorrow, three to five, and then my flights at 11. So then I'm going to get on the...

To where, Toronto? Or? To Toronto, yeah, yeah, yeah, because there's no direct flight. Right. And so, yeah, that's the shit that kind of sucks, but. What about, has there, have you ever had to, like, cancel shows? No, I've only, I've, I'm very proud about myself because I've never missed a show. Well, I had to cancel one show because the plane couldn't land because there's a hurricane

going on. That's not like canceling a show. Yeah, that was out of your control. Exactly, exactly. So I am proud about myself. Yeah, that's a huge thing. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Worst case.

I don't care if I have to get carried on stage. I'm showing up. Fuck it, bro. Good for you. Where are you at, like, after this? Like, what's your next few weeks or months like? Vegas, then Toronto. Yeah, Vegas, where...

Is it Toronto? Yeah, no, no. Yeah, Vegas, Toronto, Chicago, Atlantic City, and then a Biza the next day. And that's all in how many days? That's in four days, four or five days. So that once I get to... That's going to be rough. but the flights to Europe

though is nice though because you get the nice way yeah yeah yeah and then what's after Abiza after Abiza I'm doing Croatia love Croatia bro I'm doing what's that fucking place

called sorry to me to cut you off no worse DM or whatever that's where I'm playing bro I fucking love that place yeah is it isn't I don't like an eye Avar

yeah it's a fucking bye okay it is cool Croatia is a hidden gem okay yeah yeah yeah everyone says like Croatia is like the new Abiza it's becoming that kind of thing I love it My favorite trip we've ever done.

Yeah, really? Yeah. When is that? Give me some recommendations then. That's the only place you need to go, bro. Okay. Okay. Yeah, we went there fucking three nights in a row.

Oh, really? Yeah. Okay, hell yeah. Do you have a hotel out there? Yeah, we had a hotel ready. I don't remember what it was called, but yeah. We went there on like two days notice. Oh, okay.

It was yacht week there. I do that literally next week. That's dope. Yeah, yeah. That's my first time playing that. And then I'm doing Germany. I'm doing like an eight-hour set in London at this, like, old, like, theater where it's like you know what I'm talking about where they have like the boots up top and stuff like a really

old classic theater so yeah that would be cool and are you all alone for that like you travel all alone no so I'm alone right now but normally I have a tour manager with me and then for like my big shows I'll have a tour manager assistant lighting guy visuals my managers so I'll travel like 10 deep and then oh obviously my content guys and stuff so I have them too okay you talked about like performing in the caves yeah do you have anything any crazy scenario where you'd want to have, like, a festival, like, random spot like that? So we'd try and do some shit, like, in front of the pyramids would be really cool. That'd be fucking insane.

Because they do allow shows there. Because Carl Cox, if you know him, he did a show out there. I was like, I did not know that that was fucking possible. So I want to do that. How is that possible? I have no idea. I guess you have to hit up the local Egyptians. I don't know.

I would go to them. How can you miss that, too? Yeah. Well, it's because, like, a lot of those people that live out there, like, a lot of people live out in Cairo and stuff, they're, like, really big in the Beezosting and stuff like that. And they got a lot of money. So I think they got a lot of... Just blasted at the pyramids. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, my name's Summit. And then my label was called Off the Grady. I'm like, I love mountains and skiing my whole life. I want to do like a rave up in the mountains, like in the Alps or some shit. That'd be sick. Yeah, yeah. So everyone's wearing, you know, coats and shit. Like, kind of like, have you seen, like, they do parties for the... Max games and Aspen. Yeah, belly up, bro. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I played there a few times. Really?

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Fuck yeah, dude. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's small. It's like a 200, 300-person club. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I saw a bass next year there one time. No way.

So were you at Bayside back in the day, too? Uh, fucking Sammy's my boss right here, but yeah. First time, it's my first time doing X-Sy. Oh, hell yeah. Yeah. It was fucking life-changing. Yeah, yeah, no, no, for real that. That was the only, that was the last time you took X-CC?

Last time, yeah. Why is that? It's a little intense for me, bro. It is. Well, you just take like a half of one next time, bro. Yeah, yeah, the next time I do it, I'll do with you. Okay, fuck yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'll show you the ropes. But yeah, yeah, it's a fun time up there.

Yeah, no, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's suck, it's sick, it's sick. The Denver's scene and stuff is crazy in general or the Colorado scene. It's, the EDM and all that is so big there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know who else is, uh, was super big there is Scrillix. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Do you have a relationship with him? everywhere though but i mean like he would he would perform there very frequently oh yeah yeah yeah

yeah they just had some artists out too if you know who lenium is he just sold out of broncos arena this past weekend he did like 55 000 tickets each night or something like that just him yeah just him what the fuck how many people how many people does brooklyn mirage so that's so that's so i did a full take over there so the three stages and that was 8500 a night and you did three nights in a row yeah yeah yeah fuck so that that point have you ever Have you heard of that place? No, I'm pissed because we were there, I think, at the same time. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Because I do this, I built a whole backstage, too. So we had like 500 people backstage, too. To hear that Alenium sold out Bronco Stadium, the last time I saw a concert there that was sold out was the Rolling Stones. Yeah, we're just fucking insane, right? So you think about that. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, yeah, that's why I think dance has become, like, the biggest genre right now,

which is fucking nuts. Because I didn't, because I've been doing this for years, and it was only underground parties and shit when I started. Yeah. I guess that's how everything starts, right? Yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Nice.

So what, like, what's next? Like, how do you see, like, how do you see your career going? Like, what do you want to do with your career? I think just bigger, better shows, doing festivals, doing places all over the world, whether it's fucking, like I said, pyramids or the Alps. And then starting to collaborate with big artists and stuff, too. So I think that's the move. It's crazy, yeah.

The next is I'm taking you on the fall. fucking vendor, bro. Let's fucking go, bro. Let's go right after this. I know what's, fuck. Are we getting into one right now? I know. I feel like I am. I feel like we could just get a house party popping like at this crib right now. I'm on my third happy dad, bro. And it's absolutely good. How would we do that? Would we just like post a story or something? Oh, I could get I could get a hundred people over here. Well, we could too. But I'm kidding. You can do a couple of guys or you want a hundred chicks. Yeah. Yeah, you can help even out the ratio. Yeah. I'll be the ratio guys.

fuck yeah no this was dope dude thank you thank you for having me and definitely we gotta come to one of your shows yes please please please i'll be late hell yeah all right john summit yes sir let's go