FULL SEND PODCAST - Justin Gaethje x Nelk Boys | Ep. 41

Episode Date: May 5, 2022

Justin Gaethje on Why He Hates Colby Covington, UFC Fighter Pay & Fighting McGregor!  Presented by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer. Find Happy Dad near you http://happydad.com/find (21+ only). Video is available on http://youtube.com/fullsendpodcast/videos. Follow Nelk Boys on Instagram http://instagram.com/nelkboys. Part of the Shots Podcast Network (shots.com). You can listen to the audio version of this podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & anywhere you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We want out. We want out. We want to. We want out. Where's Stiney? He's not here? Stiney's, uh, should we, here, Gabe, you want to do your classic mic thing? The mic's in a weird position right now. Yeah. You good? Always. Good to see, buddy. How are you doing? No, Steinie's flight, uh, I guess got canceled. Really?

Yeah. Err, and Earth's severely, severely delayed. This podcast, I hope this podcast isn't falling apart. I mean, one of the week, we miss. Steinie's now gone. No, what do you mean falling apart? Now it's back. Well, I'm saying now it's back. Of course. We're set.

Big week? Oh, yeah, biggest week. Biggest week. Fighting for the title? The only one? The only one that counts. Crazy. So what's led up to, like, come in here to Zona?

How many weeks you've been in, like, fight camp? 14 weeks. I've had a, I have a nutritionist and a chef. She's been with me for, like, 24 weeks now. That's the biggest change I've made is my diet. So what? You didn't do that in, like, past fights? No, I started.

I would do it myself. I always thought I was eating healthy, but it turns out I never did. Eight weeks before Chandler, 10 weeks before Chandler, I got her. And then ever since then, I've had her. That's crazy. She comes to my house at 5, serve dinner at 6.30, gone by 7. So what's the biggest thing you noticed when you hired, like, a proper nutritionist that you, that you weren't doing yourself? Well, I would say the time and energy it takes to design and eat correctly, go to the growth.

grocery store, pick the right ingredients. I mean, I don't possess that knowledge that you need. Never had any kind of background when it comes to nutrition. And so we go to the UFC, P.I. They do a bunch of tests on us, and it tells us our macros and how many calories we should be eating by certain times of the day. And then I give that to her, and she can make all that happen. So what's like the meal plan like?

How many meals are you eating a day? I have two meals and three smoothies every day. Two meals, three smooths. I get a lot. I have a hard time chewing up all my food and eating it. I have her put it in smoothies and I just chug those things. What's in the shakes? She has a variety. I mean, there's a lot of kale in everyone, a lot of fat, nut butter, some frozen berries, some yogurt.

And then she'll put like different kinds of like blue algae or stuff from the ocean. There's always some stuff from the ocean. She's got a bunch of different packs of things, different mushrooms, things like that. I honestly, don't ask a lot of questions. I just eat it. You just chow down? Yeah, she's a culinary director in Denver, so she's been doing this for forever. She was a personal chef in L.A. back in the day, and now she designs menus, picks

ingredients for all the difference for, like, three or four different restaurants around Denver. That's dope. Yeah, she's, again, she goes and gets all the groceries. You know, I haven't been, it sounds spoiled, and I am spoiled, but, you know, that is, taking a lot off my plate. Yeah, we have a chef too. And it's like, but she's just like an old grandma

that, like, cooks. Like, she's not really like a chef. Doesn't even speak English, but it is a blessing. It is a blessing to have a chef. 100%. Yeah. Like, it's fucking amazing.

Yeah, I mean, and it's part of my business. He's a right off. So, yes, why not? There's a lot of people in this house right now. It's just leading up to the fight. Do you have all these people here always in your... Yeah, so I got...

Yeah, how many bedrooms is this Airbnb? This is fucking. There's 40 people here. And there's like five bedrooms in this place. So my dad, my brother, these guys aren't staying here. They're just, they went golfing this morning and they come and hang out. Nice. But I just have all my coaches and my chef here.

So there's, what, four coach, yeah, seven of us total in here. Four bedrooms. Staying at the spot. This is a nice place. Yeah, four bedrooms. Two of the bedrooms have two beds. So we're short, one bed, but the couch is really comfortable. When did you guys get out here?

We got here Sunday. Yeah, usually we show up on Tuesday. Usually we'd be showing up today, but this thing. the first time I've ever come out early outside of Abu Dhabi when we had to go early But it can be dangerous though When you come out, this is why the worst place to go The Land of Temptation

Scottsdale has temptations everywhere So I have no temptation You think he's gonna get tempted on I don't know I don't think so I've been isolated for about 14 weeks Can you imagine He's fighting for the title

No I haven't been Exactly that's right there's some shit Yeah I mean if you have that mental discipline That's great My priorities are certainly different Right now So you're not gonna be down In Old Town that I bumping

pop smoke and listen. No, I haven't drank or been out for close to three months. Really? Yeah. I go home. I work out, go home, and I live by myself. Wow. You got to spend a few months with Gaichi. I need a year. I need a Gachie rehab program. Yeah, that's what I need. So would you say this fight is,

I mean, you've had so many big fights. Would you say this fight's the biggest fight of your life? This will by far be my biggest accomplishment. 100%. If you win. When I win. When you win. Yes. Charles Olivera, I mean, what he's done lately is impressive. You know, there's, he's been around for so long.

His story is really inspiring, you know, being a fan of this sport, most of missions in the history. His accolades are second to none. So, like I said, biggest accomplishment in my life will happen Saturday night. And this is the first time, I think, when you said we talked before, you said, you're an underdog, right? I am an underdog. Are you on the books? Yep. Really?

Yeah. It's like a plus 140. Hey, this game's, uh, there's a little bit of luck and a little bit of chance here. so I will have more money on the line even though you guys have a lot of money but I will have more money on the line so when people tell me they're gonna bail I'm like hey

that's your that's your choice but I am prepared and I'm very confident that I will win on time your last fight was fucking awesome battle that was boring to me really yeah you fucking beat the shit out of him I did beat the shit I did beat the shit they both exchanged some pretty good uh

he hit me four times but no more than that one time was because the ref let him hit me um But, yeah, after three minutes in the second round, or first round, he didn't touch me. Other than when he got poked in the eye and then took a big shot. So you felt that was like an easy fight? Like, did it feel like it in the moment?

It fell easy, yeah. Not easy. Like, the danger, so the danger was present at all times. Like, there's a constant risk assessment evaluation going on internally with your intuition. And my, I never got comfortable that I wasn't in danger. So he was dangerous the whole time. I bring the dog out of every guy I fight They know that

You know there's no quit And they know that I'm going to try to hurt them There's a lot of different styles When it comes to this sport But when you step in there with me Nobody comes out unscathed And so they have to understand that That's going to happen

And they have to accept it This is a big one now This is a big one It's for the belt, right? This is for the belt, yep So what is that arena in Arizona is going to be just on fire And I'm walking out to

Arizona is such an electric spot I'm walking out to the most popular of mariachi singer in the history of Mexican music I'm half Mexican, I'm half Mexican and I was born in Tucson so when that song comes on the crowd's going to go crazy.

I thought it's like da-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-na-la- Mariachi. Oh, really? Does that fire you up, though, to walk out to that? I am, I'm white on the outside and brown on the inside. I got countless videos of my grandpa, Tata, singing that song. I was his favorite song.

Vicente Fernandez passed away less than a ago. My thought that passed away about a year ago. So, yeah, I think it will bring great inspiration to me. What's your plan if you could say, like, what's your game plan to, like, to beat Oliver? I just need to put a hole right in his face. Like, yeah, cause damage, cause car crashes. I'm the best at causing car crashes. I'm confident that nobody's faster from point A to point B. So I want to create a car crash and be the object with the most force. We got the same mess and i need to make him go to sleep it's centrifugal force i need to make his brain touch his skull and he will go to sleep what did you learn from that like kebib fight and abu dhabi and that

whole experience i think that was i don't know if that was the first fight i ever went to but that was really cool to go to that fight and the whole thing it was awesome i mean um yeah we were in the hotel room next to him yeah i think we were like didn't they put you right on our floor i again my i don't i don't notice a lot of things during these week well you had to hear the loud music bumping I don't think you were that close to me then. Okay, all right. No. Nobody woke, well, I mean, there was, I was 13-hour difference.

Yeah. There was no sleep. Yeah, it was an experience, you know, great learning experience. But if you're a creature of habit, you were fucked in Abu Dhabi. You know, the food is different. The culture represents different food, different water, different time zone. And so all those were factors. They all sound like excuses.

But, yeah, it was different. And then his why that night was absolutely huge. You know, with the passing of his father, him having the knowledge that it was going to be his last fight, he was almost impossible to beat that night. And that was there was no crowd there at that point, right? No crowd. So what did you think that? Minimal crowd. Yeah, you guys were there.

Bob wasn't there. I wasn't there. I had my father had a brutal eye infection. His father almost didn't make it out, but he's all better now. Thank God. God rest. Yeah. You're a terrible liar.

I know. I know. I get a little spooked out there, you know. But anyways, the end of the day. But do you think we're having a crowd, because fighting, you know, with no crowd. Yeah, my first experience without a crowd was Tony Ferguson. And that was the first event back when they shut everything down for COVID. UFC brought us back to Jacksonville. And I never understood if I was influenced by outside sources in the arena.

And after that fight, I understood that I was and that I can control it. So now, like in the Chandler fight, you never. saw me, even when he was hurt, I didn't come out of my shell and take risk that I didn't need to take. And I think that comes from the learning experience of the Tony Ferguson fight. Without that, I don't think I would ever understand

or have the knowledge if or when I'm influenced by outside sources. You and Chandler, they were pretty respectful each other, right? Yeah, I mean... You talked your shit to kind of sell the fight a little bit pretty... We didn't talk shit. Chandler was getting a little mouthy, though, wasn't he at the end? He's not a mouthy guy. Not in the fight. No, no, no. He didn't say a word in the fight.

He's not the best trash talker. I don't say the word in the fight. I'm a terrible trash talker, so. Yeah, you're all business. Yeah. I don't want to, again, I'm not trying to build a false bravado or false confidence. I want to go in there and trust in the process that I went through, put myself through, not let them affect me, not let the crowd affect me, not let the lights affect me.

It's 25 minutes in time, and in championship fights you cannot make mistakes. And if I am not 100% committed to controlling my thoughts and emotions, then that's a possibility. You're obviously like a likable dude in your weight division and whatnot, but who's the one guy that you just don't fuck with that you don't like? That you actually have real beef with

because you see so much... In my weight class? Yeah. None of them have space in my head. Nothing goes outside of the... Are they saying Connor's going to get the winner of this? I have no idea. I mean...

I thought I saw that, but I was like, what? At the end of the day, after I win this fight, there's two people. that are next in line is Bunil Dariush and Makachev and they need to fight each other. Ah, shit.

If Connor McGregor is there, then I think he's just as, he'd be just as, rightfully available as those two because they need to fight. So I would say either everybody deserves it or nobody deserves it right now. Someone needs to stand out.

And yeah, whoever, I mean, yeah, I want that opportunity to take him away from the sport you'd ever. Who would you like to fight after this if you win? Would you want to get your hands on McGregor? The best part, when you're the champion, the target's on your back. I'm not going to be looking back. At the end of the day, I will be the champ, and whoever's next will be next.

I just got to keep preparing myself, keep eating correctly, keep isolating myself, take away all distractions. Yeah, and then I'll be done one these days. How important is it? What do you mean? And so you're in Colorado when you say, like, isolate yourself? Like, what's, like, I go to, like, for the last. Like, what's, like, a typical?

You don't seem so isolated here right now. Yeah, this is isolate. I mean, these people are all here to support me. There's not one person here that's here for themselves. They're all here. You know, I get to not, I don't get to be selfish often, but during these weeks, I get to be the most selfish that one can be. And I've surrounded myself with people that can aid in that process.

And so. All these boys got happy dads. I think they're itching for a little bottle blonde night. See, that's the thing. Everybody here, you got to stay with everybody in this fucking room wants to go to Bottle Blonde tonight with me and the bottle girls

and fucking dancing on tables. I won't tempt them, I promise. No, they don't want to. No? No, when we're done, there's this, if you like bitches, then you win the bell, you get more bitches.

So this is the only thing that matters right now. Yeah, I was going to say, would you say, you know, with what you do for a living rather than just being like an ordinary dude, you're a fighter, does that increase the bitch's guy? I isolate myself. I don't look at messages on Instagram

I don't send messages on Instagram I don't go out You would not like my life Now it'd be boring to you It's cool no I kind of But I do appreciate the quiet life Yeah I live alone and sometimes I'm like hello hello

And make sure my voice still works Fucking love me Why do you think that is though I take away all distractions I mean I'm 33 years old I would love to have a family I love to be married but It didn't happen and I don't want to bring

You know right now I control everything and I haven't met a girl that I feel can bring stability and not instability. So right now, this is all that matters. I've dedicated 29 years out of 33 years towards this, and I just don't think now is the time to enjoy what I have of. I think when I'm done, I'll enjoy every single bit. After I win this belt, I can't wait to go home and have a parade for the kids back home. I'm going to make Rose and Camaro come

and that's I like to inspire people and I have a chance to inspire the world in one night and so I don't care about anything else. I don't care about pussy I don't care about drinking I don't care about food I want good food but I'm not going to go eat pancakes because I want pancakes

That's where we said. Do you ever cheat at all during like training camp On meal plans? Not this no Not this camp I mean That's so hard. It's impossible I mean you're talking the wrong guy I mean so I can't say I've never cheated, but I wouldn't call it cheating. I would say, like, nine weeks in, I'll go to In and Out Burger.

Can you have, like, one cheat meal a week, even? Not one a week. No. Every month. Damn. What a month? I mean, I can cheat whatever I want. But when that walk comes, then the more time, you have to be honest with yourself. You got look in the mirror and you cannot lie to yourself. And if you know that you didn't do

the right things, then that walk is terrifying. And I've never been terrified because I've always been confident in the preparation. More so now, I didn't I have the knowledge to know that I wasn't doing the right things then. But my confidence is higher than ever because of the choices I've made. So how do you avoid when you get that temptation? I don't get it.

You don't get that? I mean, I do. I'm a pothead. I hang out home. I smoke weed. Oh, boy. Like, uh, it's very easy for me to stay home. I don't know.

So you smoke weed off throughout camp? Pretty much. Yeah. To eat and sleep. Do they test from marijuana before fights and everything? You allowed to be high? You're not allowed to be high in the fight. That would be foolish.

I want to clear mine. I really enjoy the... I like me in a market, but then I love... I love not smoking for, you know, three weeks before and my mind clears up. That's when you stop three weeks before. Yeah, I stopped three weeks out.

It takes like four days to get good sleep and then it's back to normal. Damn. How important is that Uzman Rose camp for you, knowing those two in training? Yeah, I mean, it's everything. I mean, he's number one pound for pound male. She's number one pound for pound female.

Number two, maybe. Valentina might be first. but yeah to be surrounded by those people is you know what and then my coach you know to to inspire all of us we inspire each other each workout and then our coach is just teaching us something incredible every single time i step out of a workout i'm like wow i'm still learning and it's just because he has the ability to teach in a special way what area do you think you're like progressing and like when you say you learn stuff like what it's uh it's gonna be my my striking striking yeah my wrestling I was a great defensive wrestler

I will make, you know, Kabib took me down, and he's the only guy that's ever taking me down in a cage or Octagon. He took me down twice. It's only two times I've ever been taken down, so you know, props to him. If anybody else can do that, then props to them.

But I guarantee you no one's going to be able to walk through what he walks through and continue to move forward. Do you guys have the same management team, you and Khab? Yeah. So does that get a little awkward when there's a fight between the two of you? For him, for our manager, I'm sure. I was going to say, what does he have to do?

Choose a side or what does he have to do? No, no, I mean, he needs to make sure both of us are getting paid the maximum amount that we can get paid. He needs to make sure that if I deserve to fight for a title, I'm fighting for a title. No matter if it's against my brother or my best friend or my family, it doesn't matter. Like, to be fighting to be the best in the world and something you committed your whole life to, there's nothing, you know, there's no, he has to want that for both of us and yeah I mean he's in a good position that if he has two best fighters

yeah he made a lot of money that night what is what's the difference in money would you say hypothetically you lose this fight in comparison to if you win this fight combining everything all in the fight you're the champion and when you're the champion you get a pay-review cut when you're not the champion you don't get a paper view cut so say that again explain how that works if you don't mind so when you're the champion

you have to you have to have to have the best and then you get a cut of the pay-per-view. And if you're not, so tomorrow or Saturday night, Charles Oliver will get a piece of the pay-per-view, and I will not. What kind of money is in that pay-per-view cut? I don't know. I've got it once, but it was a bit of a...

In Abu Dhabi, I got it, but they really marketed that to Europe and Asia. They didn't market it to the pay-per-view crowd, which is America and over here. So I fought at like 12 o'clock here in the United States. on a Saturday and it wasn't it was the most watched

stream fight in the history but not a high selling pay-per-view they sold subscriptions to the rest of the world on my fight and I don't get a piece of that so I would say probably you should

at the least 400 extra and at the most you know 1.4 extra yeah you hear it talked a lot as we ask every fighter and you happy with the amount of money that you make in the UFC right now?

Yeah. Yeah, I think it's fair. Because Dana gets a bad rep, obviously. I don't know why, but for your pay and all that. So who's really getting, who's really getting fucked there? We're all, I mean, my coach, Luke, he fought in the UFC in 2002. And he got paid three. Dana gave a bag of skills and a bag of peanuts.

Pretty much. Yeah, he lost. He made $3,000. And so there is a, it's a process. In 10 years, my 5 to a million will be two to seven men. for these guys. And it's just the process of the sport. We have it.

1992 is when the UFC, you know, started. And so we've been around for, you know, what is that, 30 years. Football, baseball, basketball, talking like 60, 70, 80 years. And so it's just a progression in where we're going. It is crazy how far the UFC's come. Yeah, absolutely. It's like an organization. Like, yeah, I mean, I've been watching for a few years.

Yeah, so the argument is every other sport has representation, and we don't. Perfect example is we can't quit. We can't leave, and they can fire us any time. That's my biggest gripe. I can't leave if I want to leave, but you can fire me whenever you want to. So there's no protection in that contract for me, but it's all for you. So how does that work? Do you sign like a per fight deal?

No, it's three, four, five, six, seven, eight, whatever they can do. So if you're locked in for six, then you have to be. have to fight six or else you can't leave. Yeah. And then you're in Francis Nagano's position where you gain the belt and it's automatically extended. He fought all his fights. He fought eight fights. He was on an eight fight contract and now he's still stuck. And I don't think that's fair. But that's where we are. We've come a long ways, though, in that regard. I guess the UFC has a lot of leverage, right? All the leverage. It means staying his way of the highway, which is. I don't, I don't, I, if you're a bill, if

you're a four, five, six, seven, ten million dollar company, you have, to run it like a four, six, seven, eight, ten billion dollar company. We have to fight for what we get. Anytime I have a good hand of cards in my hand, I got to go all in. You see a lot of golfers complaining about that now, too, right? With the PGA tour. Yeah, well, Phil Mickelson gets screwed for all those Saudi

comments and all that, I think, right? You see anything about that? Yeah. I would happily trade positions. They don't even have to win every year. They just got to take, like, top 10, three times, and they're good. But I think if you're on the come-up, we were friends with Bryce and Deschambo. And he was telling us when you're on the come-up, like, it's tough because you've got to, you're an independent contractor.

So you've got to pay for all your own shit. Yeah. And then obviously, if you're not making cuts, like you're not making any money. You're actually losing money. Yeah. So come up to become a golfer. It's pretty fucked too. It's fucked, but it's easier than, it's not easier.

I mean, so it's similar to MMA. And you don't have to have God-given size, weight, like basketball, football. you know in my in my thing anybody anybody can be a fighter tomorrow you can be a professional fighter tomorrow you'll take a pro fight and now you're a pro mary fighter there's no um you don't have to have any experience and you can just become a professional fighter similar to golf anybody could do it um yeah that guy you ever say a guy afrey barn rat afry barn rat if you look him up he's like the most out of shape guy on the planet he's like 500 pounds he's a golfer yeah like a john daly yeah john just cranked

siggies and fucking just drinks fucking bud lights all day and just rips it. Yeah, it's a different life. There's no way the pressure is the same. And they get to be around the richest people and play the nicest golf courses. I know, can you imagine being a pro-golfing? I would trade skills in a heartbeat. Being a pro golfer would be sick. Yeah, I would

trade my skills in a heartbeat. You're pretty good golfer though, aren't you? I mean, I'm an average. I shot at 84 yesterday. That's good. Yeah. You're better than my sweet. My swing's ugly, but I should go straight. Come on. You don't shoot 84. 13 fairways. Stop. Stop. If I get a game. What's Salim's shooting now?

He's like in the 110s. He's no good. What he does, he'll take 500 fucking camera shots behind him, and then he'll shank 15 of them, and then the one he gets straight, he'll post. Yeah. Yeah. That's what Salim will do.

The power of the editor. Yeah. Exactly. You play a lot. Do you play during? Yeah, I play every Sunday. And then I usually start about a month out. I'll stop and really use Sundays as a rest day.

I fucking love golfing, man. Golf is the best. It's my favorite sport, for sure. Where'd you guys play today? We played the Phoenician yesterday. It's a resort down here. It's a nice golf course. The stadium course where they play the waste management is good, too.

It's expensive as shit, though. They charge you 500 bucks to fucking, yeah, TPC. 500 bucks around. Yeah, yeah. To golf at TPC here? 500 around per person. She's got to come in the summer at like 2 p.m. It'd be like $40.

Yeah. But the problem is, the thing is it's always packed there too. So they're ripping it over there, you know? So what is the post-game plans for the fight? So say, hypothetically, you, I don't want to say it, I don't want to put this out there in the air, especially there's a lot of scary guys around here. My life doesn't exist after Saturdays right now.

Okay. Chronic injury, death, obviously not very likely, never happened. The death part has never happened, but chronic injury is certainly a factor. And so that's all I care about, is making sure that doesn't happen because I don't want my mom and dad to cry. and then I can continue to eat good food

if I don't die so I don't make plans after the fight I don't it doesn't matter What's your like mindset going? When I win I can't sleep for three days And when I lose I go to sleep Really? Yeah And so why do you think you can't sleep

For three days when you win? The adrenaline You're fired out You're fired up Never had that feeling so true You're fired up The world's talking about you You know

You tend to want to see The reaction sometimes. But yeah, it's just it's just a whole different feeling. You're on top of the world. You feel like Nostradamus for like three days and then I got the people around me

that can slap me back into reality real quick. Because you seem like you strike me as somebody what you spoke on before is somebody who doesn't really like all the attention. I enjoy, so for some reason I must look way different on TV than I do in real life

because after I, like after I knocked out Soroni. I went to a bar, flew into Denver, went to a bar, and the guy was talking about the fight, and I was like, oh, yeah, that was me, and did not believe me. He was like, no, no, it wasn't. And, like, no matter who I fight, I'll go, you know, two days later, I'll go, I don't bring no attention to myself, you know, if you want to bring attention to yourself, you bring a bunch of people with you, you cause a scene, you know, I keep my head down, I walk in there, and I ask for a seat for one, I'm always going out to eat by myself. And, yeah, no one at, either they're scared of me or they don't recognize me.

But I do, I don't think I'll ever lose that ability to be an anonymous person. No, you're in it now. Because of the way I look, which is nice. What was like the regiment during training camp? Like, can you walk us through that? I'm so interested in that fucking discipline. It's two and a half to three hours each day, two workouts. So you wake up at like what time?

I wake up at, I go to sleep at 12 and I wake up at 9 every day. So you go to bed kind of late. Yeah. Wake up at nine. Nine. My first workout's at 10 every day. I get nine hours every night. Nine hours.

I was doing the math, sorry. Yeah. I've never, yeah, I get nine hours every night. Nine and nine and a half. I think that's, you know, very important for my brain. I take shots for a living. And then it's really just working out and then going home and doing nothing. Getting the proper nutrition, eating at the right time,

making sure I'm not taking too long after workouts to get the nutrition in. And a whole lot of nothing. Well, you got to fill your time. You play video games? Yeah. Video games. I play video games for like 8 to 10. What's your game of choice?

I don't go out or do anything. I play call duty. I've never committed so much time to something and suck so bad. You shit at Cod? I'm not shit, but Terrence's, Trevor's son is my, he's our ringer. I lose because of him because I got to play in his lobbies, but I also win because of him. Do you do the headset thing? Yeah.

And you talk to people? Yeah. So are you ever like, this is Justice Gage? You never like, no, I don't tell him. No, no, no, no.

Well, I play with only, you only play with people that you, like I don't play a team death match to where you're talking to the whole lobby. Oh, okay. It's just two or three people on my team and they're the only ones that can hear me. And then he streams.

So people will jump on the stream and then, you know, they'll get me, get some questions in through there. Mm-hmm. Are you ever worried about the long, uh, long-term effects of,

taking repetitive punches to the head. You spoke on a little bit before. I mean, I've been TKOed twice. In my last, since I fought Porier, I've been punched maybe like 10 times hard in fights. Most of the damage are going to come from practice, getting your body prepared for this kind of warfare. You have to put yourself through it

or else, you know, you won't be ready. You can't take the shots. So you got to, you know, and then, I don't know, it's centrifugal force that causes TBIs, and both times I got TK, I do a concussion test before and after every fight. I have, you know, baseline numbers that I want to stay at, and I have people that are monitoring me. So after both TKOs, the doctors that did it, they were like, if I didn't do this test myself, I would never believe it. but I don't believe I've ever had a traumatic brain injury from a fight. But if I go through, you know, I'm not, so the Poirier, the Alvarez fight were really hard. Mentally, physically taxing fights.

The Chandler fight, not so much. The Kabee fight, I got choked out. There's no TBI that come from getting choked out unless you are choked out for more than, you know, if they're cutting your air off for like 30, 40 seconds, then that's when your brain starts dying. but as soon as you go to sleep they let go the choke blood goes back and there's really no medically there's not going to be anything long lasting from that and so I don't know no I don't worry about it because it's always ref's discretion right when you're getting hammer in the face driving is one of the most dangerous things right die anyway you can just die in a car any time

all right oh no I'm saying yeah it's so no I don't worry about that I don't want to live forever anyways like 65 72 i'm out that's it that early 75 at the max i'm thinking like 42 i'm dipping you're almost there bud what i got a good six left after my with all my habits six left in it got to make this podcast pop quickly yeah what's up what up chill it's this what's going on welcome in welcome so what's your goal like after you win this title If you want to win this title. Like, what do you... I want to go home?

I want to inspire the people from where I live. From around the world. Like, how long do you want to hold that? Or, like, what's your goal as, like, if you become a champ, yeah. Who knows? Because would you say this is, like, could be your last shot at the title or no? Yeah, this is definitely... This is your last shot at the title.

Yeah, barring any crazy circumstances. But, yeah, this is 33. It's been almost two years since I fought for it last time. And, yeah, these don't come often. Right. You rarely get second chances, so, yeah, it's all or nothing. Like, are you trying to build, like, the gate sheet? Not that you haven't built it, but, like, the legacy as a champ if you win this belt?

Yeah, yeah, I am. But, I mean, my legacy is about cemented. I mean, I have 23 wins, 19 knockouts. Nobody has that. Nine, you know, out of my first, I think, eight fights, I had 10 bonuses. That's a record that will never be touched. Crazy. I have at least two fights in the Hall of Fame that will be inducting in the Hall of Fame.

that we'll be inducting the Hall of Fame already. And so, I mean, this will be, yeah, the icing on the cake. But I won't kill myself if it doesn't happen. Who would you say the toughest opponent is that you were faced? It could be. Yeah, him. But what was it like fighting him? Like, I said, I mean, so tough about him.

I was out of my comfort zone. Every time when I fought Michael Chandler, when I fought Tony Ferguson, the morning I woke up, my heart rate was around between 33 and, like, 36th and the morning I woke up in Abu Dhabi was at 68 and when I saw that I knew something wasn't right but you cannot what was that from just like the lack of sleep the just not being in a creature of habit you know we have a process that brings me confidence and it's going to be you know the eating the drinking and nothing there is the same you know they that was a whole like they don't have milk they don't have milk they eat goat

and lamb and I don't often you know they got beef but they don't got oatmeal they got porridge you think of the fight was somewhere else you would have maybe ended differently no I can't say so

I can say that I wouldn't I don't know we'll find out on Saturday would you say that he was the best pound for pound fighter in the UFC ever ever you have to break it up into different eras but certainly in the modern era.

Who did you look up to, like, coming up? I love fighting. I mean, when Anderson Silva's run, when he did what he did was probably one of the best runs. John Jones, what John Jones did when he first showed up, was absolutely spectacular. He took out all the big names. George St. Pierre, Chuck Liddell, BJ Penn,

and I'm sure I'm forgetting a few. GSP is my favorite. The D.S. Penn was a great fight back in the day. It was Diaz and Penn when they went at? That was a great fight. Yeah, I mean, Nick Diaz, he was always fun to watch. It's fucking crazy. It's crazy that you guys do this for a living.

I just can't get over it. You guys just beat the shit out of each other. It's only twice a year. It's only twice a year you fight, right? Yeah, twice a year. One to two. Can you add more fights if you wanted to? Can you put pressure on Dana and say, I want to fight more?

Like, how easily influences Dana if you want to? Depends on your ranking. Like, when you're here, no. When you're not ranked, then, yeah, you could fight every weekend if you wanted to. When you're getting paid as much as I do, they're not going to let you fight every weekend. But when they're paying you minimum wage, they will let you fight as much as you want.

So how many more fights you think you got left in the tank? God only knows. I don't know. I would say at least five. Oh, all right. Yeah, I'm not done. You're not done. Five more wars.

I said five more wars after the Porreye fight, and I haven't had one since. But if I take the beating, I took an Alvarez and Porreier fight, Three more times, I would consider it. Yeah. How long does that pain last have you take a beating like that? Weeks?

Which beating? None of those, like, after I fought pourier, I went out because I was in Arizona, and I had a lot of people here. I was out. I took, like, 400 pictures that night. You know, like, two hours after the fight. I think I was one of them. There's no pain. That one wasn't painful.

He didn't, like, so leg kicks hurt for, like, three weeks to a month. broken bones four to six weeks but if you don't get kicked in the leg or if a muscle doesn't get really damaged then you know three days but if a muscle gets damaged

it takes four to six weeks to go away like kicks are the most effective though what have your parents been like throughout your whole journey because you I see you brought them to Abu Dhabi I remember we met them they're cool as fuck yeah

have they always like supported you and shit The most critical part to all of it, you know, they went into mad debt when I was a kid to take me and give me the opportunities that they did. Take me to tournaments. We, you know, we lived three hours from here. We'd have to drive here every weekend to wrestle in tournaments. They've been to every single fight except two of them. The first one was my second amateur fight. I didn't tell them about it.

And then the second one was Tony Ferguson and nobody can go to that one. but they've been to every other fight and yeah it's that's one of my biggest assets is no matter what I win, lose it doesn't matter they are proud of me and they love me and that is

a great tool to carry you know brings confidence and yeah I have seven nieces, two nephews they don't care if I win or lose they don't even know they just want to you know they just want to They just want to love me.

So, yeah, that part is, that part's great. How much you get paid for your first ever professional fight? Tyson, Tyson comment the other day. They asked Tyson what he got, first, first professional fight is 500 bucks. Yeah. $500? I don't even know. $5,000?

No, but I'm thinking my first pro fight would have been Kevin Kroom. Kevin Kroom and I probably got two, one and one. Yeah. What was the result of that? five until I got to the World Series. 2000 I got paid. Yeah. Yeah, my dad's so funny.

I remember when I won 10,000. We were, like, yes, we put $10,000. Let's go! And now we're making a lot more. So, yeah, it's, you know, my parents, my dad did 37 years in a copper mine. And my mom's about to retire. She's done 36 years at the post office.

So, yeah. Did you ever work at the copper mine? I did one summer. No way. Sucked. What is copper mining for anybody that doesn't know all there? It's open. So down about four hours from here, top five in the world, biggest open pit copper mine.

The entire town is owned by the mine. Every house, every building, every restaurant, every, the grocery store is owned by the company. You live there, you rent from the company, you rent your house from the company. It's a different way of life. 1984 or 82, there was a big strike. My dad was a scab. His dad was on strike. every night they'd be fight

he wouldn't fight with his dad but the guys going into work would get rock stone at him and they got off work they'd go throw the rocks back National Guard came in because if that mine does not produce copper the world does not build

top five in the world so what was your role when you were copper mining sorry I was part of a crew imagine Gaichi just going in in mine that's amazing I was the bitch of the crew I was 18 years old I was getting paid $14 an hour and I worked my best week

I worked 96 hours in one week. We'd go seven days a week, 12 hours a day, plus two hours driving. One hour there, one hour back. So I got seven days a week, 14 hours a day. And I did it for like 64 days before I left to college. And I left there with like $14,000 of my bank count. Yeah. But what is the actual process? You like hammering away? Not, I mean, these are like the biggest machines you could imagine. I was part of a crew that was tearing down a shovel. And we were tearing it down piece by piece, transferring it an hour to a different mine and rebuilding it. I got through the whole demolition process and then maybe three weeks into the rebuild

and then I left to college. But, I mean, you're the bitch of the crew. So, like, so the shovel rotates 360 degrees and it has gears in there. And in the gears, it's full of it's called crater. And it's like really, really thick oil. And someone has to get in there and scoop all that crater out. And I'm working in Arizona. It's like 120 degrees at the bottom of the mine. You have to put two white suits on because if this stuff touches anything,

you'll never get it off you. Holy shit. I would come home pitch black every day. Really? Those things are dangerous, right? Don't they collapse all the time and everything? My dad's 37 years. How many people died?

And the mining? Yeah. Probably 15 fatalities in the 36 years that I worked there. 15 fatalities and shit. Most of those happened in the first 20 years The last several years I was there There might have been like one every five years

Last guy got a he was an electrician Electricians get electrocuted Yeah, truck drivers fall asleep Or they back off the dump But the way people die if you're doing that Is it just collapses? Is that what happens? No, so this is an open pick copper mine Okay

It's not underground Okay It's the biggest hole in the ground you can imagine Okay Just looks like a mile deep Because there's people to go down there It looks like a stairway for gods The way they break it down

Huge steps all the way to the top It's interesting It's crazy It's got to be crazy Especially doing it here in Zona Like you said It's hot and it's super dusty Loud

This fool can't hear a thing That's real work though Yeah it is But it's a different way of life Like they work on average They work if you're working 12 hours shifts You work 15 days a week And you're off 15 days a month

You work 15 days a month And you're off 15 days a month someone's Saturday every day you know it's a different way of life I used to do the cement testing and concrete pouring I think all those buildings collapsed

but I think yeah that's how I used to do back in the day wasn't good but I do love the manual labor what's the rest of this week you have to cut a lot of weight this week I mean I'm about 15 pounds right now 15 pounds to go yeah but I'm trying to keep

I'm trying to stay here for at least one or two more days because you have to get 10% back from the time you weigh in to the time you fight average in the UFC is 10% so I got to That's so fucked that's just the cutting weight shit It's so crazy in me how much do you have to cut total

I'm 15 pounds right now So is that like you have to cut 15 pounds every fight or So like when I start so like 14 weeks ago I was probably waking up like 177 Right now I'm waking up at like 167 But then I'm trying my heart I'm trying my hardest to wake up that 170 but it's damn near impossible because of the my body's a machine and I've been doing this since a child and my body just knows that it's trying to make weight so how do you how do you do that you dehydrate yourself so right now if I wanted to lose 10 pounds right now I would sweat 10 pounds out by working getting in a sauna you so you break the sweat getting the sauna come back out keep the sweat going go back in the sauna and that'll be on Thursday night Thursday night I'll start at about 7 p.m. at

hopefully like around 164 and then I won't go to I won't leave that place until I wait 155 and I'll come home, go to bed, wake up at like 7.30 unless you have to, unless you don't get down to weight. So the last fight was the only time with this nutritionist that I've never not had to cut weight

on the morning of a way in. And that was that was a really good experience. Getting up in the morning at 7.30 and still being one pound over having to break that sweat when you're already dehydrated is fucking terrible Nothing good about it And your body won't give it to you And you guys got to do that

On the week Where you have to do all this Media and shit Are you like on edge When you're like cutting weight And you have to do like Interviews and all that You know my

Everything Like my My temper gets shorter My family knows Not to ask me stupid questions I bet yeah I don't want to hear stupid questions I was gonna say great

Yeah Like are you ready Like what the fuck is that mean I hope so I don't know You're just tweet speaking out on every fucking second. It's the same questions all week.

I'm really thirsty. I'm really thirsty. You don't even want to eat. It's all just want liquid. Imagine being as hot and dehydrated as you can and not being able to take a drink of the water. It sucks. But it's also something you get used to.

This is something I'm used to. And I know as soon as I make weight, I get to put it all back in. My body knows that. My brain knows that. So right after weigh and then what do you do? So right after weigh in, it's hard because you want to eat and drink everything, but your body can't process it because there's nothing in it.

Like you cut all sodium out, so no matter what liquid you put in, if there's no sodium, it's just going to run through you because nothing's able to stick without sodium. And then all the nutrients that you've cut out for four days, you cut everything out. And then you just have to replenish it. The UFC will have like a gallon of, like a room temperature gallon of, I don't even know It tastes like piss But it's just electrolytes

And you just have to drink it slowly If you chug it Yeah No not saline but like Does you get really salty water And then we can't use IVs So that would be a way But you can't do that

Why can't use your IVs? Yeah Reason being That's probably another avenue For people to cheat Oh yeah That makes sense Trying to eliminate that

But yeah, you just And then you eat something And you feel like absolute shit for like four hours Because all your blood is rushing to your stomach All your fingers and your knees and your toes are freezing So overall this sounds like not a healthy process though Right It sounds horrible

It's bad for your body right I wouldn't recommend it It's unsustainable You can't lose weight like this But is it is it unhealthy to do all this Yeah I mean you could You could

Your kidneys can stop working If you get due dehydrated but really it's the preparation leading to that so you don't have to like some of these guys are cutting 30 pounds like from right now they're probably 20 22 pounds over 30 pounds over and they cut all that out and they want to come back and perform and I don't think it's sustainable my junior year of college my junior year I was all-American seventh in the nation I went to 1.49 the next year because I thought I would be bigger and stronger and who was unsustainable. Like one week I beat a guy, 17 to 2, and then four days later, he beat me 7 to 3. And that's how up and down my performances were. That's how shitty I felt. But it was also personal choices. I was not eating right.

Every Sunday I would pride myself in gaining 20 pounds. Drink a bunch of chocolate milk, eat some McDonald's. I obviously didn't have the funds to do this then. I didn't have the knowledge, or I didn't have the, I didn't want to. I was a kid, so no matter what I ate, I was still a machine. But I'm 33 years old now, so it's not as forgiving. Right. Would you ever go up or down in weight classes?

Right. No. No? There's no sense in it? Yeah. I don't think so. I mean, once I win this belt, there's plenty more guys to take out in this weight class. Right.

Who do you think it'll be if you win? You think the fight against Islam would be interesting with the whole... I think it would have to be the winner of Benil and Islam. What do you think about Islam? I can't pick... Either one of those, I mean, he's impressive. Yeah, I mean, yeah. Similar to Khabib, but not as good.

Not as good. He's been knocked out, so he can't have the confidence that Khabi had. And that's a factor. How does one thing I was wondering was how does somebody get a good chin? Is it something you're born with to be, or is it something you can train in training camp? And like, do you get punched in the face for tweeted leads to, like, be able to have a good chin? And this is the dumb question. Let me know.

it's not a dumb question it's hard to answer so think about Michael Chandler when he fought me he knew he was in danger the whole time and when he fought Oliver I think after the first round after he won the first round he either got

too overconfident or but he forgot the danger that is presented at all times if they're not dead or asleep and I think that's why that shot was so affected because in his mind he wasn't in danger that's why Sironi has a hard time taking shots because he's trying to avoid danger so he doesn't his body doesn't go to a primal state

Tony Ferguson is as primal as they come if you can provide oxygen to the core of your brain you will not go to sleep the fire flight thing is is human and if you're running from danger and you can provide oxygen to your brain you're going to keep running and that's who Tony Ferguson is he works out either through drugs which I don't think it's him I think or you're crazy enough to work out eight hours a day And that's ultimately what's, and then understanding the danger you're always in. I think that's what makes someone have a good chin. I mean, there's no, there's no science behind it that I know of.

I think, so Bruce Lee said be like water, like you have to absorb energy. Think of every strike as a direct line of energy. If I take it here and it goes out the back of my head, like my brain is taking all the energy. If I get hit here and can kind of roll with it in that exact moment, then it won't be as effective. That's what's going to ask you the process. It's my ability to, you have to stay calm and you have to see things and brace for things. And you can't get, and so my job as a fighter is to, it's called half beats.

So you think you're going to get hit here, but I hit you in between those beats. And so you brace, let go, and I hit you in the let go part. And that's what makes the shot effective. If they're on one foot going backwards, they can't break. brace those are the effective shots and then um very very seldom where you just get lucky and they just go to sleep for some reason but it's mostly because of they're on their back foot they don't see the shot they didn't brace for it uh they're on one foot those are that's how you knock people out what's the hardest you ever been hit and who delivered it i mean poor eight hit me what the

hell of a i would say the knee from alvarez is probably the hardest i've ever been hit What was the result of that way? What was that? I don't know what happened. So when he hit you with the knee, what was. Maybe the knee I would put it down. Yeah. Lost. That's how you got knocked out.

That was my first loss ever, yeah. Right. It was awesome. So when you get hit with a big, big, big punch, is there something that you do to kind of just tell your mind right away when you know you took a punch like that? Is there something mentally that you do to like keep yourself? Yeah, when you're like wobbling. Even when you're, nah, you don't even know you're wobbling.

You don't even know you can't step. Like, you're either fighting or you're fucking leaving. and I'm always fighting until even when I was hurt in those situations I didn't think I was hurt I thought I was just still fighting that's so fucking crazy

you guys are all nuts you can't feel a thing broken bones you don't feel cuts feel like a piece of ice rolling off your eye yeah what's a low what's a low key

the leg kicks are pretty effective right the leg kicks yeah they hurt a lot your leg kicks are fucked all leg kicks hurt Chandler's leg kicks hurt me but yeah it's my ability So my timing.

Timing is everything in this sport. And my timing is second to none. Yeah. It's when you kick, not how you kick or how hard you kick. It's when you kick where their weight is distributed. Yeah. Where their weight is.

It's forward or backwards. If all their weight is on their foot, they can't lift it up to check a kick. If they're on their back foot, you can't attack the front foot because they can move it in and out. And if you kick a knee, you're going to break your foot,

100% of the time. Where do you hate getting hit the most? You have to pick one spot in your body. Bugs the shit out of you when you get it. hit there? Every answer. Every fighter, if you get touched the liver, it hurts. It doesn't hurt. That's the bad thing. It doesn't hurt, but you can't move.

No matter how much you want to fight, you cannot fight. It just stuns you? It shuts you down. It's like an organ is getting damaged. Where is the liver again? Where is the liver? Okay. So you're right rib at the very tip of it, because about yours is probably shrub. Might have shirled up into a fucking raise of this. That means I can't touch it, but there's about a half an

hanging out the bottom of your rib cage right here. Yeah. If you could skip it right off the front right there, then it'll shut them down. Sounds brutal. I think you'd have to let me touch you so you can feel it. Nope, don't want to do that. We're going to move on.

Not happening. Sorry. I even like, no, no, I don't want any of this. If you do this to you on the right spot, you'll know what I mean. Yeah, I don't want to do that. Come on, what kind of posterior? That doesn't hurt. All right.

Show me real quick. Like, literally. Like, real quick, don't fuck with losers. Yeah, I felt it well. I did it. Thank you. All right. Yeah, so that you feel that and they...

Fuck. Imagine that a hundred times harder now. Yeah, imagine. That sucks. So we decided to start on my YouTube video. Can I look forward to here? Oh yeah, too, exactly, too. You have a YouTube channel?

Yeah. Wait, what's going on? I started a YouTube channel. When? Well, I've had it for so they fucked me. I had it like two years ago and I put the best video ever and they took it down because of copyright. right. But I had permission. I got the video

from the UFC, permission, written permission from the UFC. Help that a little. And they still took it from me. The UFC fucking took it down? I think it was just a, like, I think it was just the AI type of thing. Like an artificial intelligence. They got to have some kind of program that just sees UFC event

and then just automatically puts some kind of method in process. But then I wrote a huge Karen email and they gave it back to me. I was going to say, you probably got outside of, we talked all about fighting only in this whole shit but what are some of the other the YouTube channel? Yeah, what's the business shit you got going on

outside of fighting? Oh, so I own a equipment company with my coach. We make combat equipment, gloves, headgear, shingards. What's that called? Onyx Sports. Oh yeah, I've heard onics. Best gloves in the world. I like to golf. We just got some sweet canned amps. You know what a can't am is? No. So it's like a sand buggy, off-road vehicle. Oh, shit.

So after this fight, that's what we're doing. Nice. That's amazing. But the YouTube channel is something you're actually passionate about. Yeah, I think it's, you know, not often you get to tell your own story. And the UFC, again, the editors have all the control. And so on this side, I get to control a little bit more. What's your plans for the channel? Like, what are you going to be uploaded?

So, right, I've been every week in the last six week or five weeks, we put a video up of the week of training. And then every two days now we're doing, like, this will be on my YouTube channel. What's just Justin Gachie? Yeah. Just a Gatji. We'll put that in the description. So what?

There's videos going up all week. This will go up probably Thursday. There's one just went out today. We'll have another one on Wednesday and another one on Friday. Right? Everyone go over there. Go to Gatji's channel. Show some love.

Subscribe. Drop some comments. It's fire them up. Well, I'm really trying to ask because how much money can I make? Off YouTube? I don't know. Well, we never, our whole thing is we never really made a lot off the actual YouTube money. Like, that's what?

Because our shit was R-rated, right? So YouTube never really paid us. But I think you would probably get paid. I mean, we're weird. Your shit would be more like, quote-unquote, brand-friendly. Yeah. It's not made for kids, but kids can watch it. Yeah.

I think it could be decent money. Liver shot. Fucked me up, by the way. That was like 1%. No, I know. Even 1% though. I don't know. I have a bad liver, I think.

I wonder why. All right. I know. Thanks, Justin. Appreciate it. Yeah. Thank you guys for coming out. Yeah.

So what, fight this Saturday. Gay Cheat Oliver. I'm pumped for the fight. We're not going to be there. We're going to be in Kentucky. Kentucky Derby But we're going to be watching it from there Best seat in the house is TV

So hell yeah You're a hell of a dude man We appreciate you sitting down with us Yeah I might have to Go out with you guys one day No you don't want that If you're in the UFC You don't want that

You gotta come isolate with you Don't, please That's what I want to do We should definitely hit the links though That sounds like awesome If you can't set it up with Kobe That'd be great That was a nightmare

That was a nightmare That's why I think we're segue We'd love to fucking punch a hole In that motherfucker's face Colby? Really? You know what was? Colby?

I met him for the first time, and Colby was very respectful to me, and so. So you have respect for how fake one can be? I mean, he best is fake do well then. He was respectful to me, so, and, you know,

anytime I don't really have a lot of problem with a lot of people. So, you know, I try and just be positive and be a good guy to every person I meet. So that's one guy you don't like? No, I don't like him. Do you guys have history or some shit? No.

Talked about Camaro's family a lot. Right. Okay, I forgot. He was around me one day. We went to a Trump rally, and he was there, and he was respectful, like you said. And then right when we left, he got on the internet and started talking shit. And so I don't respect that. I don't respect.

Like, if you got something to say, say it to my face. And it's just fake. He's just trying to bring attention to himself. And I get it. Like, I make money with my fighting. He makes money with his mouth. If he wanted to make money on fighting, he'd be a broke motherfucker. And that's just the name of the game.

He'd be fired. They were going to fire him And then he started talking to have his ass So I give him credit for bringing that up And making it work You don't respect his fight game at all I think he's a great fighter Well sucks to watch

But yeah I think he If I fought him in a cage He'd probably beat me Because of his size and his ability to move forward And his ability to grapple But in a street fight There's no fucking chance What is the difference between

That's what I wanted to Because a lot of guys say In a street fight this And a ring this What's the difference? I grab a fucking brick and hit him on their head. Yeah, can't do that

in this sport. There's rules here. We got rules in this sport and in the street there there is no shit's just deans it rules. I think the only rule is don't hit someone from the back. So I'm definitely on his side

when it comes to what happened with Monsedal. Right. I think that was a bitch move. Yeah. I like Mazzol on more. Thanks to Bob. Once again, you're such an asshole.

I don't. with three weeks being Jesus of this shit we got dragged right in the middle of that because we were just there. Well,

it's because you fucking love those viral moments and I gotta sit back and my mom and dad are like, what's going on? Why am I getting texts about Mazvedol?

My family, I'm like, Ma, I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. We didn't do anything. Sometimes you gotta take

responsibility. No, it was just wrong place, wrong time. It was what it was. That was the right place, right time. What are you talking about?

I mean, I don't love action. I don't like that. No, not me. This motherfucker does. Every now you have to love action. No, no. I like low-key action.

Well, then you fucking isolate yourself at your house. That's what I'm going to start doing now. I got the Justin Gaichi rehab program coming in hot. Do not believe you, Bob, man. You're a fucking liar. Oh, man. You would love that. You were in the middle of that.

I did not love that. In the moment, it was fun. I swear it. It was crazy. Justin, Justin, I swear my life that it was literally just like not what I want. I'm not going to lie for me. It was just like a movie. Yeah, I mean, we just went out to dinner.

We always post where we go. And then people gave us flack, but Kobe put it on his own Instagram too, right? Like he posted where he was. And I mean, so then. They don't live too far away from me. It was going to happen. But then we see someone like, I was already in the car and I saw someone punch him. From behind?

Yeah, from behind. But I didn't know who it was. I thought I was just like random people. He wasn't looking at him? No. I don't think so. I don't really, I didn't really see. But then, like, he walked back.

And then I saw his mazler. but all and I was like we had front row seats to the fucking mozvado all like as a UFC fan I'm just like I can't believe I'm witnessing this right now it was pretty fucking intense crazy like our security had to break it up like it's fun yeah could have got ugly

out there but you had a little more confidence in these hands I don't have confidence as it's not me you gotta find it work out plush some shit all back all right it's all cardio well I think regardless I wouldn't have been able to hang with Mazwell all fight for 30 seconds you did say you could talk about

what you did say you could fuck on a one-on-one street fight you said that this is the this is the knelt boy thing here this is gonna be another two weeks of anxiety for bob this fucker in right here watch it back i know always do you know now yeah well this what it is i guess what i signed up for here i don't the bad thing is you ain't gonna get much money out of him i mean he probably got some money but it ain't enough to take a punch i wouldn't get money out of it i don't care about no what do you mean get money out of it if someone ran up on me and hit me yeah i mean you wouldn't charges we live with a society i would i would ask for a formal apology one-on-one sit down

and that's what i would i think you're saying that just because just because they're fighters like i don't know i mean i don't know i don't know i don't want to talk about this fucking thing anymore it haunted me for three weeks i think colby colby's i think colby's gonna go all the way with i will embrace it embrace it it it's fucking happened you can't back out of it now so use it to my advantage yeah all right so stop dropping locations and all that more Learn how to fight. I'm not learning how to fight. Not a chance.

Not a fucking chance. That's why we have a system. Press charges like you're supposed to. So you agree with what Colby's doing with the charges thing? Sure. Yeah. I don't think you can ever blindly attack someone. That's not a society that I want to live in.

And if we do go there, then I will win. It's like the fucking perch. I don't want to go there. Right. I was going to say. Yeah, it's like, no, we've like, what? 400 years ago, not that long ago, you had to fight to do anything. To eat, sleep, fuck, drink.

Fighting was how you got there. That is who we are, humans. What do you think that makes the sport look bad when people do shit like that? No. I think people know that that's who they are. I think it stops the progressions. You know, we're constantly trying to tear down this facade that were these animals. And I only got to be an animal twice a year and outside that.

I don't want to be that dude. I don't want to cause grief and I don't want to worry about other people. So I just stay out of those situations. I just have so much respect for like you guys as UFC fighters. Like the commitment and the work you guys put through to like go into these fights. To me it's like fascinating from like the nutrition to the, you know, the isolation and the mental like you got to stay away from everything. I mean, taking that walk to the octagon is it can be the scariest thing you've ever done. but if you just accept the worst possible outcome

and you're okay with that then it's so fucking fun so fun I like that you know it's uh you've taken we've all done some drugs but it's the best drug there is natural adrenaline coursing through your veins

can't imagine winning after in front of a huge crowd like that that's that's probably jumping on the thing and yeah we'll never get that but yeah yeah it's a release of every endorphins and chemical in your body Hell, even maybe a little DMT gets for these. Who knows? That's how good it feels. Probably.

Possibly. It's always an ongoing topic, DMT and our thing. You ever tried that? Oh, God, here we go. You've tried it? Really? How was that? It was amazing. Probably like four years ago, I don't ever want to do it again.

I have some in my house. You did it in Colorado? Yeah, in case I ever get depressed, which I've never been. But if I was wanted to hurt myself or hurt somebody or got to a bad situation, I would do that. and it would pull me out of it in a second. Was it like, do you smoke it or how'd you do it? So through my whole life, FAC has been like a huge part of my life

and it gave me confidence that this is, for one, not it. There's more than this. And you could meet your maker if you want to. What does that mean? Hold on. What do you mean you would meet the maker? I mean, I think it's... Well, people say that like, DNT, you're like either you think you're seeing God or you're like seeing God, right?

You don't know. that crazy of an experience, right? You don't know the difference between reality and not reality for like 10 minutes. But where you're, so when you take it, like say you're sitting in this chair and I'm on GMT and people notice them doing it. I'm like, woo.

Yeah. No, you're not, ooh, you go. I did. And your eyes are open? Yeah. And you're living in a collidercary. Everything turns out to geography and color.

How the fuck could you want that to happen? Really. And you can't even explain what you're seeing, right? Nope. You just go somewhere. Somewhere else. How long does it last? Like, how does it feel?

Five minutes, but you don't know. Does it feel like a long time? Doesn't matter. Yeah, how long does it feel? God, I might have to fucking do this. Like when people are like, I feel like I was there for a week. It feels like some time has passed. But you know, time isn't a thing.

I just know I'd be the one bad case. My face is like this. Like the biggest smile on my face and I was like, okay, my parents can't find me dead like this. So I, like, take the smile away from my face. What happens if you try and fuck? fuck on DMT. You can't move. What if she's riding on top of you though while you're getting fuck?

Would it fuck up your mindset? I don't know. I don't, you're not here. No one fucks on DMT. You don't fuck on DMT. It's only five minutes. I want to be the first one to fuck on DMT. And you cannot move.

You're a fucking zombie. How do you fuck with you're a zombie? Yeah, that's true. That's crazy. So what did you actually learn from it? Like, you say you're like religious? I got a reassurance that my faith is not, empty that is for a reason

and what I feel is real and what I believe in is real and that's all I want to. And then I was gonna meet my maker and I was like nope. And you have a thought and boom you come back to the room. Does anybody actually ever meet the maker you think? I don't know. Do people die

from that? The people die from DMT? I don't think so. No. I mean maybe. So it's not a poison like mushrooms is poison. Every drug is pretty much poisoning yourself but DMT is in this. DNT is in us. It's in each one of us.

It's what protects us at our time of death from the tragedy of death. You know, you see a gazelle with a lion wrapped around his throat. It looks like it's a total peace. That's DMT.

It always comes back to the same subjects in this podcast, you realize. It's always DMT. Gazelle's getting fucking eaten by things. It's always the same thing. I mean, I've never tried it.

I'm kind of scared to try it, but I won't do it when I'm willing. I would recommend it, but, you know, I mean, if I would, like, if you know someone that's suicidal, Boom.

First option. Depressed, first option. I got this new shit I'm taking now for all this paranoia stuff. It's fucking knocks you out in a different light. It's crazy. Oh, shit.

Yeah. I have to take it after the masvah, all shit, yeah. Nah, dude, just find comfort in the chaos. Okay. Some beautiful thing. Well, I might take you up on that. You're like the fifth person

in the fucking week to say to take this thing. I think it's set up. What DMT? I think everybody's trying to push me to take DMT and I'm going to be fucking hallucinating, seeing the devil. I'm saying, embrace the chaos. Embrace the chaos.

Don't mask it with medicine. Okay. All right. I'm going to mask the fucking chaos. Be like the joker out there. Or mask it and go to sleep. That shit, go by fast. All right.

Big fight Saturday. I'm fucking fired up. I will be watching. I watch all the UFC. I watch all the UFC embeddeds every fucking fight. I'm just, I'm pumped for it. Me too.

Be watching. And yeah, show Gates you some love on his YouTube channel. Let's, let's get some. some subs, get some comments in there, boys and shit. Yeah, be nice. Thank you. I love it. Justin, good luck.

Get the win for the boys. I want to continue these bags of boxes of clothes that come to my house. Yeah, I just text them. They're going to send it today. Oh, yeah, I saw you wearing the full send in one of the episodes. That's dope. I literally texting right now with like, yo, what's going on? I'm like, no, we're going to send it right now.

Yeah, shit's good. Hell yeah. All right. Good stuff? I got a piece so bad. All right. All made.