FULL SEND PODCAST - Jynxzi x Nelk Boys | Ep. 118
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I mean, like, before we get started, maybe we should talk about how this all came together.
What, oh, is he trying to get credit for bringing a guest on?
Is that a thing?
No.
He's doing new Bob Menry shit.
That's crazy.
How much you want for that?
Did you pay him for that?
This is crazy.
We're rolling?
I thought we were just chopping it up.
Okay.
No, no.
No.
No, like, well, you can tell a story anyway.
Okay, like, I...
Yo, this guy's jokes.
Well, Jaycee just told me he's been watching Knox since 200K, so I think that had something to do with it.
I thought Stani was funny as fuck because of the Dana pod.
I was like, this is the funniest shit I've ever seen.
Like, it was Dana, Bob, Steiny, Kyle, right?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, no.
That's you for.
And I was like, dude, this guy's, like, funny as fuck.
And then I saw the, um, the Andrew Scholl's pod.
Okay.
What did you think about that one?
And I was like, that's the most that ever laughed in two hours.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And then I was like, this tiny guy's pretty fucking funny.
So I followed him on Twitter and he's like, bro, you should do the full send pod.
And then I was like, oh, yeah, like, that's fucking sick.
Because I've been watching Nelk since 200K subs.
That's sick.
You, Lucas, Jesse.
When you guys were, like, crashing at fans' houses.
and shit. I was like, this is so dope.
Because, like, the era of YouTube
before that with pranks, and you know better than
anybody, it was all fake. It was all fake. A lot
of fake shit, yeah. It was like 99%
fake. So, like, when Nelk came around, people appreciated
these are, like, real fucking pranks.
And people are actually getting pissed. And people
are going to appreciate that because, like, they're so used to
watching fake shit. We just started doing shit that's
like, couldn't be faked. Yeah, exactly.
That was like our strategy. And that's like,
that's why Nelk would just fucking blew up.
That's it. So, like, when Stani asked me that, I was like,
bro, fuck, yeah.
That's true. Yeah. And now.
And now you're the fucking, are you officially the number one streamer on Twitch?
Right now in the last like two months, yeah.
That's fucking crazy.
How does that feel?
I mean, no different than being,
I'm pretty humble, bro.
No different than being number two or number three.
It's just like, no, it's not.
It's completely different.
Dude, I still fucking wake up in the same bed.
Like, I don't know, nothing changes after that.
It's just like, I like doing it.
But your cock's like a tiny bit bigger when you're number one compared to like number two and three.
No, it's like the morning wood just hits a little bit different.
No, it's still, I still have an average.
average penis, average house, average car.
I drive like a Honda Accord.
I live with the parents, right?
Yeah, I live with, like, my mom, my brother, my cousin.
Because, I mean, you were asking me about that, like, earlier, or, like, a couple
days ago, but, like, yeah.
Dude, to me, family's all you really have in life.
Like, you can have, like, money or fame or whatever.
But at the end of the day, all that really matters is, like, the people you truly care
about.
So, like, dude, I'm 22, bro.
Like, I have my whole, I have my whole life to go fuck off and live by my,
myself I may as well spend as much time with my mom and dad while I can yeah because like when
I'm older they're not going to be around you know what I mean the reason I said that is because you
you obviously have enough money to live by yourself so like do you still have chores like you
have to be quiet by certain hours no no my mom's like do you get grounded no no I don't get grounded
but um you can't get grounded when you're number one no my mom's pretty used to like the like
shattering doors and like vibrating walls like she's pretty used to it but we like soundproof
my room and shit like two months ago because it was getting bad.
How do you go about that?
Dude.
There was actually a crazy story like two years ago.
I was playing, this is when I had like 800 viewers, but I was playing NBA 2K 23 or, no,
two years ago.
Two years ago.
I had like a thousand viewers two years ago.
But I was playing NBA 2K22 and I was living in like basically neighbors were like breathing
on each other.
Like the houses were stacked on top of each other and I was fucking screaming and I left
my window open and my next door neighbor thought there was like a shooting in our house because
how loud I was screaming and a cop like walked into my room on stream and I had to like mute my
mic and turn off my camera but like that was fucking insane. That's hilarious. Yeah. No, I was insane.
How do you clap cheeks with mom home though? Bro, I don't. I don't. Okay, I'm done. No, but recently I feel like
you've been streaming for a while but like let's say in the last three, it was just so like
Zesty, too.
What?
No.
Right?
Wait.
Okay, enough of that.
But in the last three months, I'd say your spark of like, or six months, we'll say, has gone fucking, like, crazy.
What sparked that?
Just creativity and, like, thinking of, the biggest thing with streaming is thinking of new shit,
but also being in touch with, like, your community, like, knowing what they want to see.
Like, because, like, I can do new shit every night, but, like, 90% of it's not going to hit.
You need to know, like, you need to be in touch with your community and what they want to see.
And then, like, yeah.
in the last six months,
just insane creativity with content.
Like,
if I look at my content two years ago
compared to now,
it's like way different.
Yeah,
you're fucking everywhere.
Yeah.
And like,
obviously OGs and shit
will get mad about that
because it's like,
bro,
like, you changed.
It's like,
dude,
my content changed.
Like,
I'm not gonna,
because like two,
three years ago,
I was perfectly cool with,
I'm still perfectly cool
with having a hundred viewers
playing ranked all day.
Like,
I don't care.
But just changing your mindset
and your creativity
is like the number one way.
to like I mean even you know that bro with like Nelk like you guys had a different story in every
video nothing felt the same it was something new every time does that eat you up ever when the
OG fans kind of like say you switched up and stuff I know that oh yeah for sure because like I care
about the OGs because like they were there from like ground zero but like at the end of the day like
if you really do support somebody you want to see them grow right so it's like are you even like
a supporter at that point if you're like dude fuck you your content changed or they'll say I
change it's like dude like i just change my mindset you know what i mean everyone is going to change though
yeah you have to i think that evolution i think with streaming it's a different level like if you
compare to youtube fans and i learned this when i was at brads with neon and he has his community
bro they dictate that kid's life it seems like like if they tell him they tell him what to do
and he's so sensitive to that i think there's a balance there though you can't just like do only what
but does it not seem like some of these streamers like there's so much pressure that from the
community to make like them happy where yeah
No, streaming is way different than anything else.
Like, because, like, I do YouTube, but, like, Kyle, for example, he doesn't, like, stream.
Like, I mean, maybe, like, you've done streams before, but, like, you're a YouTuber.
Like, you were, like, that's how you started, right?
So it's, like, with streaming, if I don't stream tonight, like, bro, sometimes, it's not even a horrible idea to think, like, I, sometimes I wish I was just a random person because, like, if I, let's say I worked at Chili's, right?
And I'm not saying I'm not thankful for, like, my job.
I fucking love my job.
but like let's say if I worked at Chili's and I called my boss and I was like
yeah I can't make it to work tonight I'm letting down one guy he can just sub me out
if I say I'm not making it to a stream there's gonna be 11,000 people in the
offline chat 600 DMs on Twitter 12 emails like it's way different when you're
letting down that many people like what they say so you're saying Hassan was right is that
what you're saying wait what do you mean when Hassan was like this is harder than you
oh when the nine to five shit yeah yeah yeah
Yeah, yeah. No, I don't, I don't agree with that. I think, but what he was saying, what did he say?
Well, I feel like sometimes Hassan does stuff just to, like, get people to fucking almost be mad at him in a way, but he was saying how, like, being a streamer is like soul sucking more than a nine to five. But obviously he said it and you see it out of context when I see the clips, but I want your take on that.
Dude, honestly, Hassan, in the, in terms of like soul sucking, if you work a nine hour shift and you do a nine hour stream, you're going to be more drained mentally from the stream because like, it depends on what type of stream you're.
you are. If you're like turning your camera off, not talking, playing a game, let's say you're playing
like World of Warcraft. You're not going to be drained at all. Because you could dog fuck at work at work
a lot. Yeah, exactly. Like when I used to work at the golf course, like if my boss wasn't around,
like you're going on your phone, like maybe you grabbing a beer out of the fridge. Like you can dog
fuck at a nine to five a lot. You beat off at the golf course. You don't mean? Yeah. I've ripped the work
jerk. Yeah. Dude. And like, have you? It's low key. I've ripped a couple of work jerks. I'm not
shame of it. Brad, Brad, you have
for sure. Brad, you probably, you beat off.
No, I'm God, I never have. Okay, be honest. Have you beat off
since you've been here? What? I don't
beat off at all. You always take this shit
to the next level. You just want to, it's like, what?
Okay. I haven't jerked off in a very long time
now. It's been more than, like, almost. But it's true.
You can't, you can't fuck off on the stream.
You got to, you got to be dialed the whole stream.
Okay.
Hold on. I have a real question. We talked about, like,
fake shit earlier, right? Well, we didn't even, we didn't even
get through that completely. Do you want to continue?
He's right. Like, like, like, at
work you about the work jerks at work you can fuck off more what am i on stream am i gonna pull out my
dick and dude especially if you're a top streamer and your your number one goal is growth or
entertaining people you need to be fucking on you need to yeah yeah like what hasan said to be
honest like no one can relate to what he's saying because no one else is a streamer like
has on whether people like him or hate him he is a top streamer so he has input that no one
else has like he's speaking from personal experience at work if you want to go to the bathroom
and fuck off for 10 minutes you can't you can't do that on stream
So, like, a nine-hour stream could be more draining.
I've never worked, so, like, I can't say it.
But, like, yeah, he's done both.
And, like, that's what he says.
How often do you stream a week?
A week, seven days a week, like, every day.
I'm missing a stream today just to do this pod because I'm like, this is a dope fucking opportunity.
Yeah, we appreciate you.
Thanks.
I stream every day, bro.
For how long?
Four hours normally.
How about minimum?
Sorry.
How about the people?
I see people kind of, like, comment at you for not streaming long enough.
The part-time shit?
Yeah, they say, yo, two-hour streaming a night.
Like, they're throwing shade at you.
Well, that's like a newer thing.
That developed in the last two months of like if I end stream that three hours.
And like they're right.
Like it's coming from a place of love and criticism.
Like they want me to stream longer.
But the goal to streaming, if your goal is to actually grow, it sounds weird, is to not stream that much.
Quality.
Yeah.
It's quality.
And like you're making people want it.
Like my grandpa, he was like a really successful businessman.
But the number, I asked him one day when I was like 16 years old.
I said, what's your number one piece of advice?
like that I could take with me for the rest of my life
he started up a successful restaurant
like in America but like
his goal was always have people
coming out the door always have a line leading out the door
so like he never would have that many tables
he would never have that many seats because he wanted it to always be packed
that way when people are driving by that restaurant on the road
they're like holy shit why is there a gigantic line
so when you give like scarcity it makes people want something more
rather than streaming for 12 hours every day
you sure it wasn't just because you just
got a girl and that's why you're streaming last?
Dude, I've been streaming four hours for the last like
three months, probably.
Okay, all right, fair.
Just seeing.
How often do you stream?
I know, I don't.
I just do podcasts.
I talk to people.
Oh, you stream sometimes.
I've streamed, but I just fuck around.
We came around.
We came around a week together.
What the fuck are you talking about it?
Dude, we played, we game all the time.
But I wasn't streaming.
Oh, okay.
I'm thinking about streaming again.
Anyways.
But no, obviously, out of anything in the creator space,
streaming, it's like, yeah, that's some next level.
Okay, Brad, Brad, just sat up.
So, ask your big,
question. No, no. I'm not saying anything you've done is fake, but is sketch a real person?
What do you mean? Like, is it a character? Because, so Steve sent me a clip of him talking about,
I want to know if this is true or not. He was talking about, like, jokingly about shitting in your
shower. Did he actually shitting your shower? No, sketching shit in my shower. Sketch is a real
person. His on-stream persona has definitely played up. It's a character, but like, I've talked to him off,
like, he is funny as fuck naturally. The dude's hilarious. You guys are hilarious. I know.
Thank you.
Yeah, I think he's the, he might be the funniest person I've ever met, but, like, it's definitely, like, played up for stream, for sure.
Okay.
Like, I think that's common with almost every stream.
Right.
I've talked to him, too.
He's on Twitch, right?
Yeah, Sketch is on Twitch, yeah.
You guys should get Sketch on the podcast.
Dude's hilarious.
I want to talk about, with you and, uh, Sneiko, you guys had a big talk about kick and Twitch.
And, uh, I don't know the exact words, but you said something about how, like, the kick streamers that you see the level of content is, like, very low.
And we won't say who you referred to.
No, no, no.
I didn't mean like, okay, that wasn't with Sneco.
That was with Moist.
Or with Moist, sorry.
Yeah, we weren't talking about level of content.
Like, the level of content on Kik, okay, here's the thing.
On Twitter, when you see a 45 second clip, it's way different than like the full 20-minute discussion.
But what me and Moise were saying was like Kicks card is, oh, you can't get banned.
Like, that was their original card.
Now they're starting to ban creators.
But like, when they first started, they weren't banning anybody.
So it attracted the worst type of streamers.
Like, the top streamers on kick are fucking amazing streamers.
They all came from Twitch, like, XQA, Aiden.
Like, those guys are 10 out of 10, like, iconic streamers, right?
But we were talking about the guys who are going to kick to commit crimes.
Like, there's literally people who stream themselves.
I'm not even kidding.
This is hilarious.
Fucking prostitutes on kick.
Like, I'm sure you've seen some of those stuff.
Some of those guys weren't even getting banned at first.
Now they're, like, tightening it up.
But that's what we were talking about.
Like, there's people committing crimes on the platform, not getting banned.
That's exactly what we're talking about, but it got taken way out of context.
That's why when we were about to like, how many months ago when we started like trying to do a little bit of streaming on KIC?
It was like November.
We did our first IRL, Halloween, so October.
Yeah.
And then the time, obviously the commitment is insane, which I don't think with everything else we have going on and we could really compete.
But yeah, just the level of content that was working on KICC too.
It's just not something that I would, I don't really like stooping down our content to like what is working in a time period too.
And when I saw all that type of content, it's just like, it's like reality show type shit almost.
Like, it's just drama-based.
Yeah.
I think the other issue is that that's what's pushed by all these other pages, bro.
So like when I think XQC said, like, there's a thousand other streamers on kick, you don't see those guys.
You see the ones that are doing that dumb shit that are fighting that are fucking doing the crimes, right?
But is that a problem with like kick itself?
This is the problem with the internet.
I think, but is that, I don't know if that's a, you think that's a kick issue or is that just?
Um, I don't know if it's a, it probably is a kick issue because like the other thing about kick is like the reason why a lot of Twitch streamers stay on Twitch is because they have ad revenue on Twitch. Like kick as of right now, I don't know what it's going to look like in a couple months. Like kick could be a bigger than Twitch one day. I have no idea. But like as of right now, there's no ads on the platform. So like the reason why Twitch is so strict and like sometimes they'll like even overly ban people is because like Twitch wants to be able to run ads.
ads on every stream like kick how are you ever going to run ads on a dude who's literally
fucking a prostitute on a stream and like there's like multiple people have done that in front
of thousands of people you know what i'm saying right so it's like i think it just comes down to
like an advertiser thing of like what kick wants to do but yeah no i mean they have full control
of banning those people and they they are starting to now i think it was like after the moist pod
they like started banning like a lot of people but yeah no it's definitely in their hands
100% a lot of those guys like disappear what happened to like zirka and shit
well no zirka got um i'm you probably know more about that than me but i'm pretty sure um hs right you know
hs yeah i'm pretty sure they fought and then they did down here yeah no they fought and then
something legally happened where he had to leave the country i don't even know actually i have no idea
but like do you know about that or not i mean met him once is he just ghost now i don't know he's still
that guy's a fucking nutcase he's crazy he's a fucking nut bar bro but in a funny way but fuck he's a nutcase dude
i don't even know if he streams anymore right or does he i think he's still he's doing he's
he does. I think he bounces around. I think he also got kicked from, from, he got removed from
kick as well. But I don't know if he's going to Rumble or not. I don't even know where he's
streaming at, but I know I still see him on Twitter. Dude, if you get banned on kick, that's like next level.
Yeah, you got to be fucking crazy to get banned on kick. Like getting banned on Twitch happens to a lot
of people, but you got to be insane to get banned on kick. With that, with the Sneco pod, though,
I don't know if you want to tackle this one or maybe I will, but you and Snecoeco talked about
depression and how he says like pushups can solve that.
Yeah, I think that was, like, the most brain cells I've ever lost in five minutes, but then, like, I don't know.
Like, depression's obviously a real thing.
Like, people die from it, like, every day.
And there's, like, chemical imbalances.
Like, it's all scientificly proven, but he's just saying, like, well, your outlook's wrong.
It's like, dude, people are fucking depressed, bro.
Like, that's just the reality situation.
Do you think pushups is a good solution?
Oh, bro, pushups is fucking amazing.
I think it's a great solution.
Dude, if you're feeling, if you're feeling like shit,
bro, work out first and see how you feel after that.
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Well, I think the thing I would agree with that.
What if like Gabe got a number 10 combo from Raisin Cains?
He's going to be pretty happy too.
Like, so it's both sides.
Temporarily.
Yeah, well, this whole conversation is interesting about like depression and like just doing
push-ups.
And I see both perspectives.
I definitely can speak from a perspective like, I lost my father very young.
And I think maybe if he had better things in his life going on and he was more motivated
in other areas of his life that he maybe wouldn't have end up in that situation
because he did take his own life and he was clinically depressed as I was told right but the whole
point to it I think what sneeco is trying to get at is like obviously just doing a push-up is not just
going to cure someone's depression but overall is like the people you spend time with the the circles
that you're in the conversation that you have with yourself all those things can be somewhat
not controlled like if you're completely in this like down point but if you do spend time and it's
obviously it's you can't summarize it go just do a push-up you'll be better it's not that simple
it's easier to say that for him for clips obviously it's funnier but like i give what you're saying
it is a whole overall thing like i do think there is a benefit to working out that and i know for a fact
to make you not feel as bad but there's all those other things in your life that like it's hard
to just say this is all you need because there is so many other things that you do need to make yourself
feel better and to kind of climb out of that sort of like repetitive nature of thinking
which keeps someone in that position i think jim's the best depression cured like well jim the fucking
diet the people you hang around the son like who like what kind of conversations are you having
like give yourself two months in the gym and if you're still like if you become consistent and you're
able to stick to the gym for two months so just to press 100% what you're saying is no just do
push-ups for at least two months no but I feel like if you give the gym a real shot and you really
commit to it and you like do it for like two to three months and you're still depressed then
like explore other options but I personally think that if you can commit yourself to the gym it's
like well it's a diet's gym it's everything yeah that's for my personal
like experience. The hardest point of it all is people get themselves in this sort of like depression
vibe and like they just go in circles and then the content they consume keeps them there and the
the conversations that they have with people keeps them there and the lack of activity keeps them
there. But yeah, I see what he's saying. But it's like it's dumbed down to like one thing.
Yeah. Which is not that simple. You could definitely see both sides. I 100% I want 100% agree with
everything you just said. Like when I started like I'm not really yeah when I started blowing up like
about two or three months before that
I was big into like David Goggins
if you know him yeah and like I literally
started jogging like every day and that changed
my entire outlook on life because like
two years ago bro I would just stream
I'd play video games for 10 hours
and then every night I would order like a dominoes
handmade pan pizza and I felt like shit bro
so like when I started jogging every day
I was like okay you're getting out in the sunlight
even little things like you're saying what's up to your neighbors
you're getting in a good exercise
you're losing weight and it's like okay this is like
starting to like actually change your mindset on everything else around you.
I just had a problem with him saying like it's bullshit like that and like it's a mindset.
I had a problem with that.
Yeah, watering it down to that one thing.
I get it.
Because like yeah, I mean when you look like deeper, you know, you know what I'm saying.
But like yeah, I hate when it just gets water down to that.
Yeah.
Because it's definitely a real thing.
You know what I mean?
For sure.
But everything you said is a hundred percent accurate.
I think your response was that you're just a positive person, right?
Yeah.
So how do you stay so positive with, I mean, you're streaming seven days a week,
people coming after you if you don't stream yeah i mean it's good because like without streaming i don't
i'd probably be more depressed if i was like um not that i'm a depressed person i think everyone
in this room has like good days bad days you know what i'm saying like everyone goes through that
shit it's life bro but like i think streaming keeps me busy to where i don't worry about that other
shit so i appreciate it like when i'm streaming for four or five hours i'm not thinking about
shit you know what i'm saying so i don't mind it in terms of that um yeah like the other
side of streaming, especially if you want to
maintain being at the top of a mountain
is like you need to always be thinking of new
shit. You need to always have energy.
You can't do like lazy half-ass
stream. So it's like there's that side of it
but I appreciate like being held
accountable of like this many people are relying
on you to show up every night. So it's like dope.
You know what I mean? And you for the most part, I don't think
I've ever seen you do an IRL. You always are doing
desktop. The first IRL stream I ever did was
this weekend with Skatchez. The cooking.
No. So the cooking one was
the day before. And then the next
when we went like golfing and then we went to a basketball court and played it was fun as
fuck oh i saw the boss ball yeah yeah yeah you beat him didn't you yeah yeah that was the first i ral
stream how's your golf game not great how's your guys his golf game i feel like he's
i'm decent steinings is what do you mean by decent if you play 18 holes i go shoot like mid mid 80s
that's pretty fucking consistently have you ever shot like 78 no i broke in 81st in my life that's it
that's still crazy i've broken 90 like two times that's dope so you're pretty good yeah
Yeah, no, I mean
Just keep working on your game, bro.
Yeah, no, I fucking love golf.
Golf's sick, dude, yeah.
Yeah.
What about you guys did cooking too?
Yeah.
That shit's hilarious, bro.
That was so funny.
Okay, so I'll give you the full mindset of that stream.
So I didn't even know if it was allowed on Twitch at first,
because you were asking about that earlier.
I'm like, can you even smoke weed on Twitch?
Yeah.
So there's like two hoops you have to jump through.
Like, first off, it has to be like legal in your state.
I don't even, I don't think weed's legal in Florida,
but if you have like a medical card, it is legal.
and like we did
but like if you have a medical card in Florida
you can smoke weed legally on stream
but the other hoop which is a big one
is you can't get too high
to where you're a danger to yourself
and like um
this is a long time do they monitor that
well this was a long time ago but um
this was like over a year ago but Kai ate
edibles on stream and I'm
pretty sure he like fell asleep on stream
like to where it's like you can't be streaming right now
you know what I mean so like that could get you banned
but that's that's basically it I mean
And then we cooked like the shittiest pasta ever
But it was fucking fun
Does Twitch's rules ever like fuck with you and stuff
No I don't think so
I think it's pretty easy to like stay within TOS
I'm not like a psycho
I don't like say wild shit
But yeah no I don't think I don't think
Twitch has ever like held me back
The only time I've ever gotten banned on Twitch
Was when I was twerking
And that was like two years ago
That was when twerking wasn't allowed
Now it's allowed but I was twerking
It was pretty graphic like my ass was on the camera
Probably good reason to get banned.
What song was playing?
What?
That's funny.
Dude, I think it was like trippy red.
I don't even know what's going through my head.
Have you, like, what other advice have you gotten or what other people in your life have
motivated you to, like, be this driven?
Because it's not normal at your age to, like, you know, go this fucking hard.
I don't know.
Like, I don't look at it as, like, drive or, like, motivation.
I just feel like in life, I'm, like, so bored when I'm not progressing.
You know what I mean?
I get really bored really fast.
I get that.
The idea of like, because a lot of people like long for like retirement, which I'm sure when
I'm 40 or 50 I'll want to be like retired, but like the idea of doing nothing all day like
scares the fuck out of me.
Scary, bro.
Yeah, it's like what do I do?
Like I'm just, yeah, I don't know.
You relate to that though.
Yeah, I just think it's funny because like a lot of people try to work because they think
they want to work, get enough money so they can just like do nothing.
But that sounds like death.
That's like slowly waiting to die doing nothing.
Have you worked any jobs and shit?
Because you're older, right?
Yeah.
So like what is your job experience?
I worked in a restaurant.
Since I was in high school, I worked at a real estate investment firm out of college.
And what was that like?
I hated it, bro.
Yeah.
I hated poker for a little bit, shit like that, and then went to an assistant.
Steve's assistant.
I actually have grinded pretty hard.
Bob's assistant.
Bob's assistant.
Took me a while, but, yeah.
Yeah, Stiney was Bob's assistant.
That's the worst job.
Crazy.
Possibly.
That was like four years.
Actually, no one can say that Stiney didn't fucking work hard.
Yeah, you grab.
No, I know you're grind.
You took physical.
mental abuse like yeah bro wait you were bob mennery's assistant before steve yeah
i thought it was just steve no how long were you his assistant for bob uh bob's a little over a year
did you like hate it or not really dude i was some of the best times of my life and it was the coolest
opportunity ever because i think what's cool about that is like you understand how rare of an
opportunity you have and if you don't make something out of it that's probably the only chance you're
going to get so i just grinded and that's why i met steve linked up with these guys
You know the grind.
Yeah, especially like, for me it was weirder because I went...
Well, how long have you been streaming, honestly?
Yeah.
When did you start?
I was, so this is like, I've never even said this, but like I was streaming when I was a freshman in high school.
I was streaming when I was 15.
So I've streamed on three different accounts.
I started off streaming Clash Royale.
Have you guys ever seen that game?
I had like 30, 40 viewers on Clash Royale.
Then I like deleted it because I was like focused on like school and soccer or whatever.
but then when I got older I made another Twitch account deleted that after like a year
and then my senior year of high school I was streaming like day in day out no progression at all
I streamed like in 2019 I literally average one viewer and I probably streamed like 200 days that year
and I was like dude I may as well just fucking go for it because when I was a senior in high school
I was fucking lost like I didn't know what I wanted to do like everyone around you is going to
college or they have like work lined up with their dad or whatever but like I
I didn't know what the fuck I wanted to do, so I was like, I want to do something where, like,
I can pour my entire, like, heart into it.
And, like, if it fails, it's on me.
You know what I mean?
I don't want to have, like, my future be dependent on somebody else.
What made you pick streaming, then?
I was gaming when I was, like, nine.
And, like, I've always been really good at just running my mouth, talking for hours.
So my dad was actually the one who was, like, you could easily do this.
Because in 2000, I think it was, like, 17 or 18, when all the Fortnite streamers were
blowing up, like, Nick Merck's, Ninja, Tifu, like.
like all the fucking legends um he's like dude you could easily do this like you play video games
every day i was always like the best at video games in my friend group which doesn't really
mean much but i was always more of like a funnier guy like in school i could make people laugh
you know what i'm saying like so it would just hand in hand like because the two key components
to streaming is like you either need to be insanely good at a game or like insanely funny and if you
can captivate both you're like off to the fucking like moon so when did when did when did the one
like your streams really start to like pick up um in the start of
two thousand twenty three it was like December of 2022 January of
2023 I went from like 1,000 average viewers to like 4,000 because
someone posted a clip on TikTok of me opening alpha packs and it got like
nine million views in like 20 hours and I was like holy shit and then I'm looking at
my dashboard and I see I got like 7,000 followers like overnight from this one
clip because the clip and then like so then what happened was that guy started clipping my shit every
day other guys started clipping my shit because like the guys that clip shit get paid like if they make
it that's a whole other discussion but like if you make a clip one minute long you can get paid off
of it per views so like buy ticto buy tic talk directly like yeah you know but like over a minute
over a minute as long as it's over 60 seconds you'll get paid whether you get like 500 views
you'll get like one cent probably but like the cpm sucks but like some of them are like
making like 20K a month, just clipping.
Yeah.
And like some were like 18 years old, like with a fucking doctor salaries.
But they have to post over a minute videos.
Have to be over a minute.
And you have to be in the program for it.
But like then I see all these other accounts popping up of like, um, this guy's
clipping this.
And I think this clip era started with Andrew Tate 100% 100%.
100%.
So when I started seeing like, okay, there's like 20 new accounts in the last two weeks.
I'm like, okay, here we go.
Like it's starting now.
And I was like, I'm not going to fuck this up.
I'm going to go even harder because, like, I finally got, like, the one chance I wanted.
So I sunk, like, all my time into it.
Because I was like, okay, it's happening now.
You know what I mean?
Another thing with streaming is I feel like you don't have to put that much money into it, too.
So, like, with YouTube, when you get to that point, you got to sync a lot of money into these videos.
Like, for you, right, you don't, like, have to do anything too crazy.
Dude, yeah.
Like, it's pretty, the whole concept of it, like, you're pretty much sitting at your desk, pull up some stuff to react to, game.
Like, it's, I don't want to say it's simple.
you have to be unique, but the concept of it,
like anyone can really just do it.
Dude, yeah, no, I mean,
I got partnered on Twitch,
which is averaging 75 viewers.
It's getting verified.
You get, like, perks and benefits.
I got partnered on Twitch
streaming off of my Xbox on a TV,
not even a monitor.
Like, for gaming,
you're always supposed to have a monitor.
Bro, I remember I opened my bank account
when I was like 18.
I had $125.
I spent $100 on a monitor
because I broke that TV.
I opened my bank account with $25.
I put the first Twitch check I got
I put all of my money right back
into my setup got a face cam
which is so important got a green screen
and then it was just like over
after that like I started like really picking up traction
okay how crazy crazy bags these days
or what's what do you mean on streaming
well you gotta be doing pretty well now right?
Yeah it's like well isn't it five bucks
subscriber or some shit
I feel like Twitch takes most of it now
it depends so it's all
it all depends like for sub
specifically
if you're like a top streamer
you can negotiate a split
where you get
because like the standard
is like 50 50
but like top streamers
like you can negotiate a split
and they recently dropped like
this partner program
where you get like a 70 30 split
but like I can't like
obviously get into that
because it's all like
shit I can't get into
you have a deal with Twitch specifically then
you don't have to say the deal
but yeah no I was just saying more like
the money's starting to come in
like you gotta be doing pretty well
since the day you bought the face
he's running
when you're going to buy
Relax and Flex
I mean you fucking
number one streamer
you get the money
you get the girl
Okay
I was not going
Obviously like I'm
I have like
money
But it's like
I'm fucking
You know what I mean
I'm
It's the same
It's the same shit as like
Any other thing
Like if you're doing
really well on YouTube
You have money like
Um
But that's not like
The goal of streaming
I just do it
Because I fucking love doing it
You know what I mean
Yeah
Like when you started your
YouTube channel
Was your like
I was just doing it for fun
bro
Bro
And that's not
the people see the vibe of it like with nilk like people see like oh these guys are literally just
fucking around having a good time yeah and making funny shit and like if it turns into something
it does but if it doesn't it doesn't it's not like oh i'm doing this to be rich and famous yeah
that's like the worst mindset ever definitely if you love it like you'll never run out of a drive
or a passion for it you know what i mean 100% yeah it goes with any kind of relationship good man
yeah i i knew you were going to ask about like some like weird person here well
What's going on?
No, no, it's not a personal thing.
When you're trying to balance a career in a girl, bro.
So I'm just checking in, making sure you're good.
Yeah, no, I mean, it's going great, man.
I knew you were eventually going to ask about it.
Do you have a, do you have a cry?
You're locked?
Yeah, I mean, like, yeah, I'm locked in.
But do you have a crush on her or what?
Yeah, like, what the fuck?
Dude, I thought I was dating her.
So I think there might be an issue there.
I wasn't going to say anything, but since you said it, I mean, Stiney's probably really jealous.
I think he's just playing it off.
So, holy she is.
Tell the truth.
Stana, you asked her on a date, didn't you?
Like a couple months ago?
No, I did, yeah.
Just one?
Wait, wait.
It was like 2 a.m., bro, so don't like get ahead of yourself.
It wasn't like a 4 p.m. thought out text.
It was like a, yeah, what are you doing right now?
Shoot or shoot, man.
No, I'm kidding.
I will say she gets, people kind of shit on her, but she's actually cool as fuck.
Well, yeah, I mean, everybody that shits on us has never like, yeah.
I'm going to stay away too.
You don't have to worry about that.
I'm not going to hit her up no more.
Appreciate it.
I'll let you have your fun for a little bit.
Yeah, I, I'm, you scare me.
I think he was worried about it.
But, um, no, yeah, I mean, anybody that's,
especially when you're meeting someone who's literally posting fucking TikToks,
especially if it's like troll, funny shit, like,
they've never met that person off of a camera, you know what I mean?
So it's like their opinion is already so jaded.
Like, I feel like with streaming,
it's way easier for people to get in touch with you as a person
because, like, you're in front of that camera for four, five hours a day.
like sometimes I'll talk about what fucking wings I want to order tonight
like you get very personal with a streamer
but if someone doesn't stream and they're literally posting TikToks bro
it's like how are you even gonna how are you gonna have an actual opinion on a person
you know what I mean yeah 100% how do you guys like are you gonna do collapse and have
the relationship or is it well I mean I have done it right at first it was just like
a stream thing but um like I'd prefer like me personally like I don't want to
intertwine the internet with a relationship too much
because the internet's fucking psychotic so psycho so i mean like i mean we both you balance that though
if it's doing so well i mean just you have to like sit down with yourself and be like i mean
do you want the internet intertwined with like you don't you don't you don't because like the
internet's like that's the thing it's not even the internet 95% of the internet is cool as fuck
it's just that 5% of like what the fuck is wrong with this guy you know what i'm saying so it's like
yeah i mean preferably you know occasionally we could collab or whatever but like less
less off camera, you know what I'm saying?
Because it's like, it's the fucking internet.
Pressure's on, too.
You better keep that number one spot.
This guy is like really trying to insert himself on him.
Now that you said Stein, he's going to start streaming.
He might, go out, bro.
Could you ever see yourself streaming?
Yeah.
I could for sure.
Yeah, yeah.
Well, dude.
Well, now that you know, Brecky like streamers.
No.
But like, all game with Brad and, like, just our conversations are funny as fuck
while we're just playing for fun.
And I'm like, dude, I think, I kind of want to do it too.
Because I think it's...
What games did you play, though?
Like, what would you do?
Fortnite 2K.
And then I think reactions, like I think, for instance, the problem with the podcast is, like, when, let's talk about, like, P. Diddy and Meek Mill situation is really hot.
Since you're streaming that night, you can talk about it that night.
Like, since we do the pod once a week, it might, that shit might already be old.
So we can't talk about it.
Turnaround's way longer.
Yeah, that's what I think is really unique and different about streaming and why, like, streamers are able to get clips so much is because it's so hot and you do it every night.
Dude, it's actually crazy, like, of what you just said is fun.
fucking genius, by the way.
Like, what you said is true.
If you're doing a podcast once a week,
those trends are fucking old,
like you're doing it once a week.
But if you're streaming and people in your chat are like,
yo, this just happened.
You can run to TikTok and like report on it.
And then it gets clipped.
It's actually fucking,
it doesn't even make sense in my brain how famous
and how much of an influence streamers have.
Like speed,
Kai, Aiden.
Like the amount of influence streamers have is fucking insane.
Like, they're up there with like rappers.
Like it, or even more.
Like, it's actually crazy.
I mean, yeah, Kai even is like, it's just a different level.
You never know who you're going to fucking see that guy.
It's fucking crazy, bro.
Well, the immediateness of it, like you said, it really is really a part of that impact.
Like having the reactions as fast as you can and then people coming and seeing you and your reaction to it because they're looking for it right away somewhere on TikTok.
And then if they've already kind of known you or seen you, they're more engaging with you.
So like, I guess, I guess on that, like, do you see that changing?
Because I really wonder what the future of streaming is.
Like, is it just going to keep going down this like super high speed road of like,
you have to be on the shit right away
because the internet just seemingly becoming more and more
like you have to be like quicker quicker yeah it's like everything is about
turnaround time so it's almost like do just do more people make content have to start
streaming dude yeah as like boring or like not even boring as depressing as it sounds
people's not people kids attention span is getting even worse day by day because of ticot
so i don't see i i see streaming getting even more like short term of like everything's
fast you're reacting to shit
Boom, TikTok circulates.
Because you know, I mean, you're plugged into the streaming shit.
Like, I know you are.
I've seen you talk to streamers.
Like, TikTok is fucking everything.
So, like, if people's attention spans are, like, fried, like,
streamers are, like, the guy because everything's live.
Everything happens fast.
And the other element of streaming before TikTok, like, really took it over was, like,
people love the idea of, like, it's live.
Anything could happen.
Like, there could be, like, disaster.
Someone could, like, get banned.
Like, people love that element.
because like YouTube
YouTube's dope
because you can edit shit
and chop it up
from like the creator POV
but from the viewer POV
they love the idea
of like fucking
anything can happen
you know what I mean
it's live
personally you spend more time
on TikTok than like IG
oh my yeah yeah
I think I made my
I made my Instagram account
like two months ago
like I don't
you never even had IG like that
never had IG
no really
and I made a Snapchat account
like two months ago
like all I'm plugged into
is like TikTok
and it'd be my advice
to any other streamers
like see what's fucking trending and like um just find where you can fit into it like if it makes
sense like if you're a streamer where like your thing is like sports don't report on politics
but like find where it plugs into your content and just fucking go with it like that feels genuine
though yeah ride waves and just like speak from the fucking heart because like it's like Kyle was saying
earlier like you want to build an actual audience of not just people who are like watching you to
be like, oh, is this guy going to get punched in the face right now?
You want to, yeah, you want to watch streamers who are, like, if the way to build a long-term
community is finding people that actually fuck with you.
Yeah.
And just be yourself.
Like, there's only one of you and there's eight billion other people.
Like, did your, did your TikTok blow up like when you started getting big off streaming?
Because it's not like, you don't post like clips from your stream on your TikTok, right?
You post like organic content on TikTok.
Yeah.
So I never posted my, I actually used to post my clips, um, from my stream on my TikTok.
And I'm like, why are these not doing that good?
And I'm like, then I thought about it.
It's like, well, there's a thousand other pages clipping it.
So what I need to do is I need to give people new content, like behind the scenes shit.
Like even like some of my biggest videos ever is like me going to buy shoes at a mall.
I've seen that one.
Yeah.
That video has like 15 million views and it's literally me just walking around a shitty mall like in my hometown.
And I'm like trying on boots and shit.
It's like, people love...
Are you surprised when that does that good?
No, because I know, like, this is the first time they've ever seen it.
If I'm posting a clip, they've probably already seen it.
Because there's, like I said, there's like, by now, I don't even know.
There's probably, like, realistically 15,000 to 20,000 different TikTok pages consistently clipping my shit.
So it's like, if I'm posting a stream clip, I'm a fucking idiot.
Like, it's already been...
You're just like...
That's smart.
I mean, people want to see you out of that streaming element.
But your TikTok, your personal TikTok account is fucking...
Oh shit.
Your personal TikTok account is fucking, like, ridiculous, the numbers.
Yeah.
Especially, like, in the last, like, probably three months, but, like, almost every TikTok is, like, 10 to 20 million views.
Because I understood, like, people love that behind the scenes shit.
Like, dude, I mean, I know you don't really, like, post on TikTok, but, like, people see you in, like...
Whenever we post something raw, it does well.
Yeah.
Dude, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The other shit.
Like, people, even if it's, like, if it's me making a fucking burrito, people love that shit.
People love that shit because it's like this is something I've never seen before and they like to see you out of that chair sometimes out of that streaming chair and doing something like relatable and real because like then they know you're a fucking human. Yeah, they know you're a fucking human being and not a robot. Yeah. What do you think about their talks about TikTok like being banned? They keep talking about this. I'd fucking jump through this window right here.
Like if I don't think TikTok's ever going to get banned. I think it was they're threatening it so it gets out of the I don't know the name of the company that owns it, but they want.
wanted to get out of their ownership.
I don't know much about it.
TikTok's probably not getting banned.
If it does, then Gigi, I guess.
I mean, it's just whoever has more money and who has, who's lobbying better.
Yeah, I feel like, there's some about Biden signing some, some bill, right?
Yeah, and the Congress thing.
But there's so much, there's so much money in TikTok, even from like American companies.
It's just like, why would they want it to be out of there as well?
You know, like so many people are making money off a TikTok.
Yeah, I heard, I heard YouTube lobbies like heavy, heavy, heavy.
Probably.
Because, I mean, TikTok's got to be the reason why.
Millions and billions.
Yeah, TikTok's probably the reason.
why like YouTube seems to be less sort of the sought after place to go make content now
because of the definitely way less I feel like it's still still massive but it's obviously lost
yeah TikTok especially with the younger generation yeah well the big thing with TikTok is like the
data mining and shit right like that because like um I'm think I don't even know I have no idea anymore
so I'm I'm gonna like preface it by saying that but I think it's owned by like China right yeah
So like when you have like
CEO and me talked actually recently
When you have like these guys that are running the country
That are like 70 years old
They don't use TikTok, they don't give a fuck
If they find out that another country has like personal information
They're going to feel like some type of way about it
So I think they want to move ownership to a different company
That's like I think American owned or something
I don't even know the full story of it
But you know that I've had some sleepless nights
Thinking about TikTok and imagine you're like fuck
Yeah because that's like the whole
I owe everything to fucking TikTok
You know what I mean?
Yeah.
Like if I ever met one of my TikTok clippers in real life, I would like fucking hug them.
Like those guys are fucking dope, dude.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, they definitely.
That helps a lot.
What else besides TikTok do you think is like the biggest besides the content itself and the
originality of it, what other platforms do you think have the biggest like push for a streamer to get, you know, big?
YouTube is fucking gigantic.
Like, um, I was talking to like, I've talked to so many people about Twitch because I can talk about streaming forever.
But like Twitch is a bubble.
There's not really that big of an audience.
compared to YouTube.
So, like, with Twitch,
when you get to, like,
the point of, like,
you're averaging 100,000 viewers,
you become, like,
the trend of a website.
Like, it's only, like,
the bubble is following you around.
Like, the bubble will follow around
any top streamer.
But, like, with YouTube,
Twitch is almost like a lake
and YouTube's an ocean,
if that makes sense.
Like, YouTube is,
I mean, bro, you know.
Like, YouTube is fucking insane.
Like, you can literally talk,
you can touch the whole world with YouTube.
Like, when you get a fucking eye,
phone, YouTube's on that fucking phone.
Like, you know what I mean?
Like, does, does Twitch do anything
for you when you become number one?
Like, what do you mean, like, do anything?
Like, is there any accolade or do they, like,
reject me personally?
Like, is there anything that happens?
No, I have a, I have a...
I said he's wondering if they jerk you off or you.
Well, I mean, you're saying it's a smaller platform,
so for the number one guy, you're doing a lot for them.
It's not that it's a smaller platform.
I'm just comparing it to YouTube,
which is, like, the biggest...
Sure.
YouTube might be bigger than TikTok.
Like, YouTube's fucking...
what about what about when how is you're in kai's relationship since like
dude i love kai yeah kai is um kai is an actual good human being which is like
it gets hard to see that when like you're you have so much money and so much fame because
he does kai's fucking international but like i've talked to kai off stream like bro he's like
he loves his mom he loves his family he's very religious like he's a good human being
and he understands the impact that he has on his viewer
so like like Kai is an actual like really good person like I fucking love guy what was the whole
I know this is kind of outdated but what was the Monclare thing oh that's like super dumb but yeah
we were doing a Madden wager and we were playing for like I think it was like $5,000 I'm pretty
sure and when I won I said it's this is going into a purple Montclair and then I actually
bought one with his money like when I got it so it was just like a funny thing no but I fucking
love Kai like actually yeah what's what's your best game
right now best game like favorite game to play or the game I'm best at both I'm
sleeper good at FIFA um I was like semi professional at Clash Royale I'm kind of
washed out good at R6 favorite game to play right now probably like FIFA I play
I play FIFA off stream I love FIFA but FIFA's so dead yeah like FIFA's so shit now
FIFA used to be peak I always see you play you're always playing Madden well that was
just because like I was super into football it happens to me every year I always
always come back to Madden yeah like when it's playoff season and it's i always find my way back to
madden dude it's hilarious brad you're pretty you're pretty ass at what you're ass at what
you're ass at fortnight you're the most selfish player it's kind of you in person okay okay let me
explain you don't even he doesn't know how to revise let me explain how he plays fortnight okay
this is how this how stony he's good at fortnight because he talks the most on the comms does
produces absolutely no damage no kills no nothing he'll go bro we lost because you it's like
i'll have fucking 10 kills we'll have none it'll be like i lost because of you just because he was
It's a team game, and if I go down, there's no thought of, you can't even defend you.
I should go help him out.
It's hero mode.
Let me be the man.
Let me get the dog.
Bro, I have to because he doesn't kill anyone.
I have to protect him.
Dude, you'd be a good siege player then because, like, comms is so important in siege.
Not really in Fort Worth.
That's my point.
Thank you.
Honestly, sometimes with Fortnite, don't you think it's better to just have your teammate
shut up so you can hear shit?
Yeah, so I could shoot.
Okay, but how good of a communicator am I?
Bro, you just talk to talk.
You have to time you're like, where are you at?
You, like, we both have the same minimap.
You know that you're way far away from me.
You don't got to be across the field and be like, where were you?
I knew where I was.
All right.
He's bad.
He's really bad, dude.
Wait, it's terrible.
How old are you and how old is Stiney?
20s?
20s.
I'm my mid,
mid 20s, mid late 20s.
Is this like personal info?
No, I'm 29.
Okay, so you're 30.
And then how old is Brad?
29, actually.
Okay, 34 for every fucking year, bro.
You're 38.
No, I'm 33.
You're 38, dude.
No, dad's insane.
You Google my fucking age, bro.
I know you got some Wikipedia guy changing that shit.
Bro, it's Google, dude.
Well, dude, to be fair, you guys are never competing with the 15-year-olds who are just playing.
Yeah.
Fortnite is crazy.
Like, Fortnite is, like, all mechanics.
Like, there's no brain thing.
Like, there is thinking, like, there's a lot of intelligence that goes into Fortnite.
But if you compare it to any other top shooter, it's nothing.
It's all about, like, how fast can you take this guy's wall and can you 200 pump him and how fast are your edits?
Like, Fortnite is...
We play no build.
Good, good, yeah.
You'll have more fun in that.
Fortnite is just like no thought, like just mechanics.
That's why it's so much fun, though.
Yeah.
No, Fortnite's fun as fuck.
Fortnite's never going anywhere.
We should play us three.
Maybe we're a trio.
We're a trio.
What?
We can't carry.
You can play too if we want.
I don't, I never, we'll have to carry.
You too cool?
You have to carry a man.
I only ripped Cod, bro.
That was the game that I just devoted days and hours to.
Yeah.
I miss Cod, the Golden Days when it was so good.
Were you in the Cod golden days?
Oh my God.
Bro.
Call Did he Black Ops 2, bro?
That like, that was like, I mean, you guys are like a little older than me.
You guys played MW2, right?
MW2, Black Ops 1, Black Ups 2.
Dude, Call Duty Black Ops 2 was when I was like,
okay, this is, playing video games
is my favorite thing ever.
Like, I found that out in Black Ops 2.
Yeah.
That game, when you have like seven people,
you're playing from like 8 p.m. to like 4 a.m.
with your boys, like, there's nothing else like that.
Like, gaming is crazy.
Like, there's nothing else like that.
You know what I mean?
Just the best thing ever, man.
Oh, yeah.
Just with the boys, getting like homophobic on there and shit,
just saying whatever the fuck you want.
Dude.
No one cared
Yeah, when you're loading into a call duty
Black Ops 2 lobby and I'm 11 years old, 12 years old
And people are telling me they're going to fuck my mom
It's like bro like I became a man on that game
Yeah, straight up
Did you ever lose your temper when someone really dissed you?
No, not really.
I mean like a lot of the people that were like really mad at me
Were like 30 because I was a squeaker
You know, the easiest guys were to go out
Where the guys with the deep voice is that were definitely like 40
That was their only trip too
They're like your voice is so high and shit
Yeah
You're nuts.
Have it even dropped.
And this guy's 30.
I can hear his baby crying in the background.
Take care of your kid, bro.
I can hear his baby crying in the background.
He's telling me he has a relationship with my mom.
Like, bro, your fucking baby's crying, dude.
Yeah.
Those guys are easy pickets.
How do you pick?
How early on and how do you come up with your creative?
So if you have a stream tonight, like, would you have it planned out before?
Quick question.
Does Stiney run the pod kind of in a way of, like, questions?
A little bit.
It depends on the episode.
A little bit.
Depends on, I mean, it depends on who the guess is.
Like sometimes me or Kyle connect and Brad's just there.
Depends on the desk, though, probably.
Yo, this shade on me, he's great.
No, no, everybody just connects with whoever.
No, yeah, that's bad.
Is that a compliment, though?
Because I'll take it.
No, no, I mean, yeah, I think you do a pretty good job.
I'm going to tell you, like, you've been talking about streaming just becomes so popular.
Like, I've kind of become fascinated with it because I think it really is the future of everything.
And so, like, all these new guys I've just paid attention to, and then it just becomes my TikTok.
He's also really interested in your girl.
That's why he's, like, extra invested in this one.
Well, that's what it takes.
I'll stream.
Wait, I'm sorry, what was your question, though?
It was a good question.
No, like, how do you plan your streams out?
How often do you have them planned out?
The creator.
Dude, yeah.
Schedules, like, scare me.
Like, having, like, a calendar scares the shit out of me.
I like to wake up, go outside, like, sit by my, like, lake, smoke a cigar, and just
start thinking about, like, oh, I haven't done this.
This did really well.
Because, like, the idea and mindset I would give to any streamer is, like, just when you're
starting at Ground Zero, just try different shit.
When I was averaging one viewer in 2019 for like 228 streams or something,
I was streaming 2K, I was streaming black ops.
And then like my cousin told me to try Siege.
And then I was like, oh, now I have seven viewers.
Like try different shit, see what works.
And then like always make sure you bring back the classics,
but don't do the same shit every time.
And like my community gets pissed about it and they say like,
my community is just something else.
But like they'll say like recycled content.
It's like if you guys want me to stream,
every night for five hours or night,
you're gonna see the same shit, like, some nights
because it's like, I'm not gonna think
of something every night. You know what I mean?
Yeah. Yeah. You're not really,
you're more just on the winging it.
You completely wing it. Yeah.
That's good though. Yeah, I don't like having like
the next seven days planned out. That's like terrifying.
Yeah. I like being able to just like kind of do
whatever. You know what I mean?
And when did you start on YouTube? Good question. My cousin
told me to start on YouTube because he's like, you're a
fucking idiot if you don't start on YouTube.
But honestly, I was late.
Like I started on YouTube probably like 11 months into streaming and by then I was probably averaging like three 400 viewers and like I still wasn't on YouTube but like yeah what made you like want to like try YouTube like because it was a big thing I was always good at making videos like I would edit them I would film them I would do like the whole process like I wanted to be like a filmmaker so I was good at the whole process of like making videos so I mean me and my friends would shoot like funny shit serious shit but then just uploading it and like.
Like, just literally doing it for fun.
Like, I wanted to be a YouTuber too.
And then just, yeah, same shit.
Slowly getting views.
Then I would make like 500 bucks a month.
Bro, that's, and when I high, because it's like, yeah.
And I saw people that were like, that made it.
Yeah.
And I was like, there's no way you can make a living being a YouTuber.
Yeah.
Like, that would just be the dream, right?
So, dude.
And, like, I'm sure even when you made your first $500, you were like, bro, I made
500 bucks doing something I love doing it.
So it's like, I'd rather make 500 bucks doing that than make $5,000 doing something.
I fucking hate.
You know what I mean?
Now that you're here,
you kind of like,
you like didn't think you'd get here,
but you also like kind of knew you would at the same time.
Yeah.
It's like weird to explain.
Dude.
Yeah.
That's probably how you feel.
I just related to what you just said so much.
Like when I had one viewer,
I was like everyone around you,
especially when you're starting.
I'm sure you have the same shit.
People are going to call you delusional and crazy.
The same people that do that are the first ones that congratulate you when it works off.
It's like, dude,
fuck you.
Like you said I was crazy from the start.
Like to be like,
insanely successful in a field like
YouTube or Twitch, you have to be
crazy at the start. Like, for sure.
When you look at the math, you're like, oh, there's a
99% chance, 99.9% chance, I fail.
But you have to be like fucked up in the head.
To be honest, like, you have to be like,
I can eat shit for 12 months,
get one viewer every stream,
but it's going to take a fucking
SWAT team to get me out of this chair
to stop me from streaming. Because like,
I know I can do it. Like, because you also
have to be honest with yourself. Like, a lot of people want to
stream but it's like bro you're boring as fuck you don't have a face cam on you don't even edit like
or not edit you don't have like any energy you're playing shitty games like it's not going anywhere
like you know what was your schedule like when you were starting youtube like did you plan shit
out or did you just completely wing it no we were pretty we were pretty strategic and planned
I mean as much as you can right but I think dude we almost quit many times like those times
we're just like yo this is not working we're not getting views I think we even debated
just like managing talent like just because we knew the back end we knew how to shoot and edit and
we're just like oh it's like maybe manage this influencer and do their shit but then i think we just
said um we need to upload three times a week which was pretty crazy like like now we upload like once
a month but three shoot and edit and post three times a week and that's what we did yeah and we just
hit the road didn't come back and then just three times a week no matter what and we were editing
the videos too yeah and then yeah
Your grind is crazy, and it's actually, when he talks about that, it's crazy to think that you never had, like, a, I don't want to say real job, but like a normal job.
Yeah.
You should do an IRL of you working in a factory chain.
I was thinking to do in a vlog where I, like, work at Chipotle for a day.
That'd be serious.
You have to.
Yeah.
But, bro, like, when you were first starting, and like, let's say, you know, obviously you didn't get any traction at first, what do you think was, like, the main motivator of, like, I'm going to keep going.
Like, did you have full faith that it was going to work out, or were you kind of just on the fence?
Like you said
Like you always just have that faith for some reason
You're fucked in the head
You got to be fucked in the head
It's like it's kind of like a blind faith
Yeah
Now that you're here
It's like damn this is pretty crazy
But you always had a feeling it would have worked out
Yeah
You know
No I love that fucking answer
It's like
But like you
When you start to get that
Like a thousand views
And you know like
Okay wait something
I have something here
I think we did the same thing
We went all in
You have way more belief
Yeah
Way more belief
So like for now
Was there like a
Was there a breakthrough point
Or was it kind of just natural, slow?
Because, like, for me, it was kind of just natural, slow like that.
Yeah, it was slow.
And I think that's why we have such, like, a diehard cult fan base, right?
Because there was never that one video.
Like, I think our first big one was the Coke prank.
That was like a big one.
That was like the first viral where it got like, I think it was even just like, yeah,
a million in a day or some shit like that.
But you guys were already doing well before that.
Like, yeah, we were good enough to where like.
Decent.
Yeah.
I don't even know if we were at 100K at that point.
But, yeah.
Dude, you want to know my favorite
Nelke video ever?
It was the wine tour where Steve got hammered.
Wine tour is legendary, bro.
Because, like, you have all these rich fucks
who are like 50, and Steve is just fucking wasted.
We actually watched that, like, two weeks ago.
Dude, that's my favorite video ever.
I didn't even realize how crazy it was, bro.
Yeah, and then, like...
Steve was a fucking animal.
The most fucked up part about Steve was he was in good shape, too.
Yeah.
Well, that's what made him cool.
because it's not like he was a fat drinker like he was like yeah because then it's kind of depressing
yeah exactly but like Steve was fucking shredded bro and like this guy could drink I'm glad that
we like handled it perfectly where like we kind of like called it quits at the right time at the right
time because there's no way that would have ended well dude that's what I was gonna this was like
this was a question I've wondered like do you ever like could you ever see yourself going
going back to like just getting piss hammered like riding around
the fucking country like or do you think like you're at a point in your career where it's like
dude like I'm I'm not like I'm not gonna be a kid forever you know what I mean that's kind of what
I'm that's kind of like why we haven't uploaded it in like four months it's because like yeah
for me it's like it's kind of like a personal battle too it's like do I want to be doing that do I want
to be doing that do people even want to see that what do they want to see us do like yeah I'm 29
too I'm turning 30 this year that was a really good question because we talk about that all the time
but also I think the financial is way different.
Like you kind of, at that point when you guys are doing it,
you kind of had to do that.
And now it's a little different where that's not a requirement to get content.
I don't know it was had to do it, though.
I think it's just like, I don't think it was hard to do it.
I think we were kind of just going on a little health grind for a little bit,
and I wanted to just focus on that and, like, achieve that.
But we just shot a funny-ass video this week.
So I personally still love making videos and shit.
Yeah.
But yeah, I think with the drinking, too,
it's kind of fuck we always say like dude drinking for us is actually like productive and beneficial
which is become scary a bit like even on like old trips like we wouldn't be like drinking one day
and we wouldn't get any content and then like we'd all look at each other and just be like all right
yeah we got to get fucked up straight up and then we'd get the best shit ever no matter where we were
like even in europe we're like yo we don't really want to drink today let's just let's just go do
this for content not we're not getting anything we're like all right you got to drink
you know you know and then we drink best video ever
How do you know when, like, we know now when we have, like, a banger video,
how do you know when you just put out, like, that, you know, that was a fire stream
or that was a great stream, like, how do you determine that if you do it so often?
Yeah, it's not even, I don't really, like, base it off of numbers, like, oh, this stream had
this many viewers, like, yeah, sure, like, whatever, that's cool.
But, like, for example, this weekend, like, when it was just, like, when I do something new
and people love it, that's what I would say, like, when I was, like, getting high,
with sketch and like it was the funniest shit ever like I woke up there's like all these clips
on TikTok of like the like funniest shit I've ever seen so I'm like oh like people actually
fucking love this like I took a risk on something I did something totally new and people
actually fucking loved it so it's so motivating of like oh people love when I do different shit
you know what I mean dude nothing is better than when you film a video and you're just having
the best time doing it and it does well I had dude I made money getting high and
cooking shitty pasta like that's literally like life goal you know what I mean yeah does content ever
feel like work for you sometimes some of the shit you do sometimes yeah like especially when it's
like you're streaming every day for years and like some of the shit you've done so many times it's
like okay like you know I wish I could just but like streams like that are special where like
you have a guest come out and you do that so like I understand and appreciate that it can't happen
every night but yeah sometimes definitely I feel like anything else like it does feel like work
eventually you know what I mean like I'm sure you felt like that before yeah are you we just shot a
video this weekend it was fun as fuck so fun so fun are you gonna are you gonna try to like obviously
like not letting these get stale are you gonna try to start involving more like creators and do
collabs and like who do you want to collab with dude the number one person i want to collab with is
speed because like recently he got unband on twitch like a couple months ago but i've collabed with
like almost everyone i've wanted to like i've collabed with eight and i've always wanted to do that i've
collabed with um koso sketch kai like i've collabed with like all these creators that i fucking
love um but speed would be like the number one person yeah do you do would you ever see yourself
going outside of like the creator space and trying to like involve like the i guess i don't know
if you call it celebrity even though creators at this point kind of are in a sense but you know how
kai goes and he's like working with hip-hop people like would you ever go out and do sort of stuff
like that oh my god i would love to the problem with like the only issue i see with having a rapper on your
stream is like are they going to be like good and comfortable on a stream because like you have
rappers like uzi where like it's the most entertaining thing you've ever seen like he's done
aid in streams he's done kai streams uzi is the most entertaining person on a stream but like when
you have other rappers that are like awkward as fuck it's like i don't want to do a stream where
i'm uncomfortable and they're uncomfortable yeah it have to be somebody that i fucking love like and
like i know they're good on streams like oozy's like a perfect example he's probably the best rapper on a
stream I see yeah not like Playboy Cardi showing up and leaving really that was crazy yeah we were
talking about earlier like reporting on like news and shit bro I wasn't even able to stream that night
I would have talked about that for like two hours that was the most that was the best six minutes in
internet history I wonder if they planned that no no no that was so wrong but even that's like huge
for aiden right like that was everywhere oh it went more viral yeah 100% exactly I said the same
thing when I was like obviously aiden got like he definitely got scammed like money wise but like
that was the most clipped six minutes in streaming history easily bro
like that was fucking that was everywhere yeah yeah i saw i think and a that's aiden's thing is
like he always kind of gets like punked and just like it's so funny he plays it off so well right
yeah the 21 savage shit too with the cards like yeah yeah aden's gotten fucked over a lot
i saw duke dennis said something about like dude you gotta quit collabing with these rappers
or i think you said i don't know if he said paying him to come on stream it's not worth it
it's not um organic if you do that i think the vibe of paying
someone to be on your stream is a horrible vibe to begin with because it's like why have them do it
if they don't want to do it you know what I'm saying like why pay somebody a hundred thousand
dollars for two hours of their time they're gonna be dude it's gonna be awkward and boring as
fuck like you'd be better off just getting someone who wants to be on the stream and that way
it's just a good time for everybody you know what I mean yeah paying somebody is a horrible
mindset to get on your stream I have to say for aiden dude it's actually like I think he's the
goat honestly because I'll still see clips from six seven years ago like the troy lane's clip
is the most viral fucking thing every time.
The Torrey Lane's clip was like three years ago.
Or three, four years ago,
but like random shit from four or five years ago
that get fucking 10 million views.
I'm just like, how?
Aiden is like the one who made streaming mainstream
because before Aiden, it was just like gaming,
like ninja.
Fortnite is what made streaming like,
okay, this is a real thing
because after Fortnite people were like,
holy shit.
Like there's guys making millions of dollars a month
playing video games.
So Fortnite was like the big thing.
But then once,
Aiden got into, like, the trend of, like, full camera, I'm going to have a rapper on.
Yeah.
It became, like, more digestible for everybody.
Because not everybody wants to watch video games, but, like, anyone can appreciate a rapper stream.
Anybody.
Because it's just, the vibe of it is so good because you have, like, a streamer and a rapper.
It's such a good, like, it's also what you said earlier about.
I think it would be hilarious, bro.
Yeah.
Like, you in, like, a Kodak would be hilarious.
Oh, I fucking love Kodak.
Yeah.
Well, I was going to, I was going to say the concept is the same thing you said earlier about, like, you making content, for example, on your TikTok that
is like you doing something that's like not on stream and not typical like having like a rapper like
no one knows how rappers really are for the most part because they're not really like portraying their
life in that way so I think when they pull up on stream you're just like oh shit this is completely
different exactly you see them in a different like where we were talking about earlier with like
recording tic talks behind the scenes like people love to see rappers like in a chair on a stream
like interacting with this guy it's like it's so different than like oh you just see their like
albums and like you know what I'm saying
like promo stuff or like maybe they'll do
an interview here and there but a lot of rappers don't
like especially Cardi like Cardi's really
rare like he used to do interviews but like
when that stream got announced it was like the biggest
thing ever like we would have like 700,000
viewers you know what I mean yeah
dude this guy and your girl is kind of getting interesting
oh trust me I know yeah he'll text me
and call me about it like what the fuck
really what the fuck
I think you have to go
so he's a bit heartbroken he's a bit heartbroken
He's a bit hard, but he called me personally.
He was like, yo, impressed his kid.
Congrats on all your success.
Yeah, you could tell, bro, you're fucking smart.
You got a good hand on your shoulders.
We'll do something soon.
You even fired me up, man.
Yeah.
Thank you, bro.
Jenks, he's the man.
Yeah, we got to do some more content for sure, bro.
No, yeah.
One of these days, bro, I'll get fucking hammered for a knellk video.
That'd be sick.
Let's do it.
All right.
All right.
Let's go.