FULL SEND PODCAST - Kamaru Usman x Nelk Boys | Ep. 18

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

Kamaru Usman says Canelo and GSP are Scared to Fight Him! Presented by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer. Find Happy Dad near you http://happydad.com/find (21+ only). Video is available on http://youtube.com/fullsendpodcast/videos. Follow Nelk Boys on Instagram http://instagram.com/nelkboys. Part of the Shots Podcast Network (shots.com). You can listen to the audio version of this podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & anywhere you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

So we got Kamaro Uzman coming on today. This is a big one. First UFC fighter. I thought we've had a UFC fighter on. I don't know why we haven't. Surprising. I think we've had a couple opportunities. We were going to do Covington.

We were going to do Covington. And then I got sick as fuck. Yeah, what was wrong with you? Dude, I had a bad flu. I was sick too, man. I was sweating. Dude, I'm noticing everyone's getting this flu too. I think the Chinese put something else into the air.

Really? I think so. Because, dude, I'm noticing everyone's getting this flu. flu and everyone that gets it, it's like as bad as when they get COVID. But it wasn't COVID. You got tested everything? It wasn't COVID. It was negative.

But it was just as bad. I was like sweating in my sheets five nights in a row. I think it was just a new cold in New York. Like, it was just a new area. I think the Chinese are up to something. How is the podcast, by the way, guys? I sat one out. I kind of got some messages.

I didn't get a chance. Yeah, because I think you're kind of like confusing the audience. What do you mean? As to why, like, you're in and out. And everyone's like, where's Bob? Like, I'll tell you exactly why. as goes back to the original plan is I think it's important, you know, the knelt boys stick to the milk boys and you guys get to put out your stuff. You do your episodes and whatnot. I'm not a

knelt boy here, all right? I'm just coming in for the podcast when there's guests on and that's it. You know, I mean, I think it's better. I think that's what the people want, too. They want just the original crew. I don't want to be jumping in on that shit. I don't want to be stepping on toes. Is it because we talk about controversial topics or not? I mean, I definitely saw the list of topics, and I definitely failed out of that real quick, but. But you, you're so controversial on your IG. Yeah, but it's a character I play. It doesn't matter. It's a fake character. So if anything goes wrong or any of my VO stuff

that I do, I just blame it on. No, not the voiceovers. I mean, even your Instagram stories, what you say and shit. You're probably more likely to get canceled off what you do on your Instagram stories than fucking talking about general topics with us on a podcast. I don't know. I just get bugged out sometimes. I just get bugged out with this shit. So like, what

I decided is like anytime there's guests on, I'd love to be on it, and then anytime there's not. And I think it's good to have the crew just by themselves, you know, kind of shooting the shit once in a while. Stay to your roots, you know? Yeah. I like doing those ones once in a while, too.

What are you guys thinking for that? Are you guys going to try and do those every, how many, how many? I think we do it every, whenever we feel like it. Honestly, whenever there's just like new stuff to talk about or we think about new stories. I feel like, yeah, when a lot of just random shit pops up that we want to talk about, I think it's cool to just sit with the boys and just have a combo. I think it'd be great with you too. It's not like we always just talk about knelt boys and shit.

Yeah, yeah. No, I'd love to do it. I just, like you said, I saw some of the, Topics. The topics. I decided to just bow out of those, you know. But at the end of the day, do you guys have a porno site now?

We got full sun.com, the members. Yeah, but what is it, what is the girls thing? I see the girls. So basically what we're looking to do is we're kind of looking to build like the ultimate guys club, I would say is like what it is.

So there's just going to be so many different benefits to being a member, like come even like a year from now. Already there is. But I just feel like we're just trying to make this package to where there's so many benefits to being a member. So one reason we have to do it is because all these platforms, I think Instagram is the worst.

YouTube's on and off. You never really know what's going on with YouTube. Meaning what censoring was? Yeah. There's no strict set of rules on YouTube. So it just keeps getting worse and worse as the years go on. And I feel like eventually NELC

is just not going to be able to exist on YouTube. Okay. Maybe for a podcast, but not like the NELC show. So you think they're pushing you kind of out? I don't think they're pushing us out. I don't know if we're really like, I don't know what it is, but dude, it's just, it all comes down to money, right? We already explained this before. So Kleenex walks into YouTube and says, here's $100 million for fucking two years of advertising.

But then if Kleenex sees their ads on an elk video of like us saying something fucked up or doing like a fucking fake ice prank, they're going to go to YouTube and be like, why the fuck is my Kleenex ads on this fake ice prank? and then YouTube gets shit and then they pull their $100 million. So that's why YouTube has to like, you know what I mean? They have to be careful. What's the scariest or the closest you guys ever come to really being like canceled on YouTube

where you guys got a letter or notification or something they were like, not canceled, but I remember a year ago we were like sitting at like two or three strikes on two strikes. Do you know how it works? Yeah. So you have three strikes. And if you get three strikes,

your YouTube channel just gets deleted and you never get it back. There's no, no. from what from what i know i mean i don't know how much strikes you guys sitting on we we were sitting on we're we're sitting we've been sitting on two a lot yeah right and then you never know because the strikes are always for like it's always the videos you don't expect too yeah so and then it's like we have all these public videos sometimes you get a strike for a video you uploaded like eight months ago like we just got a new strike recently and when you get a strike you can't do shit for

like a whole week so we just got a strike for like an old-ass video i forget which video it was. I don't remember either. Is there some guy like in a fucking war room like just picking things or? I don't know. Maybe. I wonder how that works. I don't know. We should try and get accessory on here, Adam of the CEO of Instagram. A lot of my old shit like yesterday I got a video deleted that was like

five months. Yeah. And a lot of my old shit is just getting deleted, deleted, deleted. Yeah, but so going back to the full send.com thing, I think it's important for us to build our own platform to where we can say and do whatever we want. And even on the podcast, I feel like we got to cut so much shit out.

Yeah. Especially pandemic talk. You can't talk about that on YouTube or Instagram, right? You can't say your opinion on it. They monitor that as well? Yes. Instagram does that.

Really? What do you mean? Whenever you talk about it, even if you mention the word vaccine or something, it popped up that little display. Well, YouTube, in YouTube, we said it before,

but they released the thing where it says they're cracking down on vaccine misinformation, right? So if you just say your opinion on the vaccine, you can't say that on YouTube. Like, that's like a known fact. So you cannot talk

about the vaccine on you too. You'll get something for sure. You'll probably get a strike. Yeah. So what's going to be the rule year from now or two years from now? You think it's just going to keep getting straight? Yeah, it's going to get worse.

It's going to get worse. The internet's going to be like TV probably where you can't like. It's going to be regulated as fuck, right? Which is a bummer. By the way, we have to catch this flight out. I can't stay here. I know I've said, I don't want to stay here. Oh, by the way, you, is your, do you have a girlfriend?

Yeah, I have a girlfriend. How old is she? She's my age. Oh, really? Why did you tell me she was 28? I was just lying, just see her reaction Oh, all right, worry, no, I just didn't know, so like it's your birthday strikes at midnight?

You guys have anything special planned? Is she going to zap you? We don't have to say that, but yeah, we're going to have a good day tomorrow. Golf, 7 a.m., 8 a.m. Is she, like, kind of like getting frustrated with all your golf shit? No, no, not at all. I'm dialed, that's it. By the way, you know what I was thinking about two,

can you imagine how much pussy Bruce Buffer must get? Oh, my God. I saw him walking by me. just talking about that every fucking time like we're in the back room after the fights or in between the fights like even in between he's always has two of the smokiest fucking and how old do you think he's like 55 yeah all he has to do is smile i feel like everyone thinks that dana's like fucking the ring girls and shit but it's actually bruce no bruce buffer must fuck and he uses the voice too i guarantee he fucks every single girl and he turns on the fucking voice and he

bangs them fucking with that voice yeah because a lot of people ask me they're like you use the voice when you fuck the girls i'm like no i'm not going to use my voice when i fuck the girls just be weird but Bruce I feel I can get away with it Like I bet you he sometimes I bet you there's some girls That are turned on By fucking because there are girls

That have came to me And be like you gotta be the voice on You're fucking me and shit Really? I'm like I'm not gonna sit there I'm pounding your ass Oh yeah fuck me Fuck me like no I'm not gonna do that

It's weird But I have a feeling Bruce is so comfortable Because he's so Bruce Buffer is the most like Confident guy I've ever seen You ever see him walk? He's like how you doing? Good to see it

He's got two models by his side But he definitely turns that voice on He's fucking zinging him I believe that Are you ever a little threat when you're like are you threatened by bruce buffer he's definitely competition yeah but you know he uh he's made it

it's my it's like i think that's my father i wonder if dana would ever maybe you should replace bruce buffer would you do that absolutely if bruce goes down i would do the 125 pounds out of the red corner yeah i would do it i mean he's gonna retire eventually i don't think so the guy's gonna keep popping viagra's

banging 25 year olds and fucking just zinging his way to like dude they're gonna roll them out in the coffee that guy'll never go away i think he will eventually eventually not anytime soon but I think you should replace him I'd love to when his time has come and he says he's ready to put down the mic I think you should pick it up

I am ready to do that I'm sure Dana will love that idea bro that be jokes yo that has to happen or like Dana should let me like sit in for one fight let me just go ape shit in there and like just let me grab the mic zapped out of my mind and be like 135 pounds out of the rent I really could do it I think I think I could do it

it's not that hard no I think you could too I'm off the zaps too by the way guys really yeah I don't take that I was on I was prescribed to Adderall how long how long have you been off it like seven days that's good yeah I mean it was just too much yeah all the urges when you take Adderall Adderall is very interesting drug adderall is when I took it I could literally shut the door paint this fucking whole entire room fucking blue and green seven times over and solve fucking the Vinci code but also at the same time all of my fucking vices went through the roof like gambling drinking like it all

Adderall is not a good drug. It helped me accomplish a lot of things. I took it for three years, but I realized, like, it's just way... When were you prescribed it? I mean, the first memory I have being prescribed atarol was in high school when my math teacher was like, you're out of control. I've never seen anything like you. You have the worst ADHD to ever seen as a drug.

Here it is. I swallowed a pill, and it was like, fly me to the moon, and let me sing with all the stars. And I was like, this is amazing. And then cut to like nine years later I weighed like I lost like 95 pounds I was shriveled up rucket and fucking raisin And uh

Dude this guy's hilarious Bro I'm not joking you don't eat on that shit You don't eat on Adderall I swear to God I have gone Okay every time I go out to fucking eat with you You just have like one little chicken wing on your plate It doesn't get touch you just take one bite And in my head mentally like I'm trying to hide it

That I'm not on it so like I'll yeah I'll like fill up a plate and then like just whatever But yeah you take that I'm telling you the least I think I've taken it once Like I went on a little bendy with them because the reason I kind of developed a problem with them. So I remember three days I took him so much. I had a crouton and a carrot for three days.

I swear to it. I was like a fucking reindeer, dude. I was like Santa Claus's reindeer. I took a fuck. I ate a carrot and a crouton. The whole entire course three days. I went from 160 pounds to 94 pounds, literally. So I'm done with the zaps.

I do not know how you do that. Because they make you feel so good. Like they do make you feel like you're fucking dialed. But just loss of appetite. Urged to do all the bad things just goes through the roof. So that's why I was checked out for a little bit. I had to get off that shit. Yeah, you seem dialed this week.

Yeah, I mean, just kind of slowly, you know. Last night we went out for dinner and we were eating, and then Bob just got up and left. Well, because you're like, man, I think I'm going to go out and go wild. No, never said that. Never said that. Well, not like go wild, but like, you know, you were like, maybe we can go out in L.A. I'm like, I've got to stay dialed, you know? Yeah, that's good.

Where the fuck is Uzman? I know. Do you think all three of them, three of us could kick the shit out of him? What are you looking at me for? No, fuck, no. If we all got in the ring in front of the ones? No. His manager moaned in my ear.

Yeah. Uzman was like recording. Yeah, shout out to Salim for locking down the Uzman. Yeah, good job, buddy. Good job. A little birthday magic. Birthday magic. How did you get it done with Uzman?

Well, his manager, I see him at the fight, the Gachi and Chandler fight. And then, yeah, he said he liked my videos, And then he, uh, he DM me and he said, yo, it was good to see you. And then I hit him up to see if, uh, Khaber Uzman or Gajee can get on the podcast. And they hit me up yesterday and he said, would, you want to do something with Uzman? And I was like, yeah, fuck yeah. Luzman is a legend. We all just, we literally, if you guys wonder how we get these guests like last night, we found out about this.

Literally. We were filming that, uh, meet the parents prank. And then I tell Kyle, yo, he just texted me, Uzman. He's going to be in Vegas tomorrow. Boom. Like, we were fucking, I feel like I was thinking about it today. Like, we are. the hardest working team

and fucking social media like people just I don't know what they think or they think like even when we are late on our uploads and shit I feel like they think we're lazy no fuck we really got to make a behind the same shit and fucking film all this shit because it's a lot of work nuts the whole team too like it's just

non-stop finish a video fucking lock down another guest fly out like we're just on planes all the time we've been to Vegas twice this week yes was your turbulence bad on the way here because we were the plane behind you I think no was your I thought we were going to die.

We started to plunge. We were going to fly to Florida. We were going to fly to Florida to do an interview, but we're like, fuck, we got to do it in Vegas. Fly to Florida with who, Uzman? Usman was going to go back to Florida tomorrow. Oh. And then we locked it down for today, so.

You know what we're doing next? What? You should come join us for a bit. What is it? We're doing a cruise. Okay. And then we're going to go to Mexico City. Out.

And then we're going to Jamaica. Maybe in? And then... Maybe. Vegas for the Sugar Sean fight Porier And then we're going to Hawaii

Wow Hawaii I'm in Jamaica I'm in Mexico City I'm in Mexico City Out Wait what's this whole thing About Mexico City not being like

What is it about that city about I just watched documentaries I mean we went to Rio de Janeiro What's so bad about Mexico City There's nothing bad about Mexico City Nothing I mean it's a third world country I don't know But I mean there's obviously

dangerous parts like we can't just like roll around but the guys that we were brainstorming ideas with they went to Mexico City for like a bachelor party and they said it was like chill so there's dangerous parts in every city yeah yeah of course of course LA's fucking dangerous like it is it is I saw 6-9 was in New York City sitting the table across from me

yeah set a load him real quick did you and yeah obviously young Dolph just got killed which is nuts yeah 100 shots man how did he die He got killed at the cookie store He went to the cookie store And somebody shot him up Are you serious? At a cookie store? Yeah

At McKenna's cookies it's called Oh man Where In Memphis I believe Jesus Get gun down right in front of the store Yeah I don't think he has

Crazy how many young rappers die It's like what is going on Was there a reason why he got shot Was it just a shot? No idea I didn't look too I didn't look too far into it I just saw that he had died

He was awesome too He was good He was one of my top top five You love to slap young doll fair I loved Young Dolph. I loved him. He was great. Always.

I liked him on Look Alive. It was good. I like Young Dolph. What is that a movie? Look alive, Drake. That's Block Boy, Jee. Oh, it's Black Boy, Jee. I'm tripping right now.

Yeah, it's Black Boy, JV. I'm tripping, I'm tripping. 100 shots. I'm tripping with that. We also had a million subscribers on the pod. Oh, yeah. Crazy. That's lit.

A million subs pretty quick. That's really good. The pod is jumping. People love it. It is good. I love doing it. it is fun to sit in it is just the whole process is just yeah fucking hilarious the fact like all of us just come from all different parts

and zing all over and then all of a sudden like we have a guest today oh it's fucking mike tyson do you guys ready would prepare anything we're like nope all right let's all sit down i don't know dude they said they said they want to go for like two hours dude no we can do they want to make it like the longest podcast no tell so dude it's the pound is he the pound for found best fight in the world yes and you guys want to fucking leave he's pound for pound Dude, I got a, bro. Coming off a huge fight, hasn't done an interview,

sitting down with the full send podcast team. We just hit a million subs, Saleem's birthday tonight, and you guys want to fucking leave Vegas. It's disgusting. Just, if I stay in Vegas, I'm going to redevelop a zap problem. I'm going to fucking text Cole on the side

and have Cole sneak a fucking zap in my drink and then just fly to the moon. I won't even need a plane home. I'll just put wings on, and it'll shoot on my bed. We can probably chill with Dana tonight, too. Oh, yeah. I'm fucking seen enough of fucking Dana.

All right, lately. Like, at dinner's with Dana, you know, all right. I FaceTime him fucking hammered you the other night, too. Did you? Yeah, I was so zapped, and I just fucking sing. I don't know, because I, like, never expect to pick up so when he does. Like, he's just like, eh, like. I heard you were zapped.

I heard you were zapping Scooter Braun, too. Oh, yeah, I've prank scooter every day. Really? I think, yeah, it became like a thing. Didn't you say he's coming on the pod? I think he was just, like, doing that to, like, kill time in the face time, because it's awkward. So after, Bob said that he has, Bob said he locked on Scooter Braun for the podcast. and then after I went to the nice guy after

and we met one of Scooter's buddies and he said he was with Scooter and he just told you that stuff so he would stop fucking FaceTime Yeah, I know, exactly Yeah, I fuck with him so hard Yeah, it's crazy Yeah, he's not gonna come on

He's being a, he's being a little pussy My man What's up, man? What's up, how you doing? What's going on? What's going on? Good to see you, good to see you Why is it a bad hand? Well,

you do something as a rigorous You might have broken hands here and there, so... I feel that. Did you break your hand for the Kobe fight? Yeah, I broke it before the fight. You had a broken... Most people didn't know that, so... Really?

You fought with a broken hand? Yeah, I broke it three weeks before, and I didn't throw it a day until the fight itself. You can't let them know that, right? Yeah. Wait, wait, wait, so when you were practicing and warming up, you weren't throwing any right hands at all? No. Really?

No. For how long until the fight? I didn't throw it until the back, back, right in the backstage, you know, when you won't before the fight I didn't throw my hands for three weeks my right hand seriously yeah that's crazy how'd you break it you broken training broken in someone's head yeah just in geish's head really yeah why you got you guys spar together you engage you yeah we spar together well they're in the same yeah you have guys have the same coach right we're like yeah same coach like main training partners slash big brother little brother slash you know two assassins in the same

place does he kick the shit out of you I mean he gets it better of me sometimes yeah really Yeah, Justin Gitchie's a savage Yeah That fight was crazy No offense or whatever But the fight of the night Was I think Gichi and Chandler was unbelievable Absolutely

Once they put that fight on the card I was like shit Bro, that was a There goes your bonus It goes a fight of the night bonus I might as well try to get this performance bonus now That was a fucking sick card though man That was a good night

It was which is I mean that's You know if you look at historically All the fights that UFC have put on at MSG They come with it And it was a perfect night It was a good night. You fought in Abu Dhabi too, right?

Yes, I fought Nabu Dhabi. So it was crazy. I've had, I was the first, first fight back during Fight Island, after COVID. I was the first, I mean, you know, on Fight Island, I was the first fight back with fans in Jacksonville. And then getting to headline, MSG is just, you know, boom, boom, boom, you got to top everything. We watched the Jacksonville fight too, right? We were there. I was there, I think, yeah.

That was a good one too I think we've been to all his We didn't go to the one in Abu Dhabi No we didn't Went to Mazzvedal Where else will we go to Yeah

Mosvidal That's the fights we've been to Of his Yeah They just all one now They all just They could have sworn One to another one

How cool is that That all you guys On the same team Like won on the same night That was insane Yeah so in Jacksonville I had two It was me and Rose

That fought That same night And Justin was there But it wasn't the same He didn't get to have Fun with us Like we did You know

We got to punch people on the face. Justin loves to punch people on the face. Yeah. And so I was like, man, if I got the opportunity, we got to get him on the car too. And, you know, and Ms. She just was the perfect place. That's awesome.

Well, there are more people in favor? I was trying to think back. In favor of you there, Channing your name, or was it more Covington? Seemed a back and forth. It seemed pretty back and forth. Yeah, I wouldn't say he was a happy medium because, you know, as much as people want to hate the guy.

I mean, he's an excellent fighter. So I think he has that respect But you know You need someone who's gonna be that guy You know so to sell a fight But when you both be good guys And it's like these two good guys are gonna fight I mean you have a good fight you have a good fight

Like Chandlin Gaci but you know When you have a good and the bad guy Yeah I seen you guys hash it out after A little bit or I don't think so You mean You guys hug each other He sticks to his guns though after he's still like

I mean he's supposed to though Yeah he can't break He can't break that. Like, Undertaker was wrested for how many years? Have you ever seen him break character, really? You know, so, I mean, it is what it is. He has to do what he can't. Well, what did you guys do at the end of the fight?

Did you guys, I mean, you guys shook hands and all that stuff? I mean, when you punch a guy in the face for 25 minutes and it's still standing and it's like, I respect. Yeah. Because he was, he was an asshole to you, right? I mean, he didn't have to go to certain places with fucking with you. Yeah, but, you know, that's kind of what these guys do now. You know, they have to, I mean, if you think about it,

you're a guy, I'm a guy, we, you know, I don't know you, you don't know me, but somehow we signed a contract that we're going to meet on this day and we're going to fight in front of millions of fans. You know, he did the best he could to talk shit and sell it. You don't know me, but you talked all this shit. And then, of course, I get in there and we duke it out, then it's like, okay, you have to earn each other's respect. But if he wants to continue to stick to his guns, that's fine.

Would you say he was your toughest opponent ever to fight? Yeah, I want to say he was probably the most complete. Yeah, he's the most complete because he could wrestle, he could strike, he could, he has a good gas tank. You know, usually everybody else I could kind of pinpoint something about him that's like, that's my mind be a weakness that I could exploit and I could push for it. But, you know, he was probably the most complete. That first fight that you guys fought was like crazy. I feel like he did a lot better on the first. I feel like the second fight, you really got the better of him.

He did a lot better in the first fight because of how I wanted to fight him. You know, it was even more animosity in that first fight because, you know, we hadn't fought each other. We've known about each other for years. It's how crazy how our path has been. You know, it goes way back beyond even MMA. Yeah, what was the path in the beginning? It's wrestling. Like, so me and John Jones met each other in high school.

like senior, senior years in high school we met. Really? Like became cool. So I was like, oh man, where are you going to school next year for college? He's like, some school in Iowa. He's like, where are you going? I'm like, ah, some school in Iowa. It's like, oh, cool, let's exchange numbers and we stay in touch.

All right, cool. So that next year, we're both freshmen in college. It's my fall break. So I go over to their school to hang out with John for the week because you get a week off. And we're hanging out and we get a, hey, there's this guy on a friend of the day, a friend of the team.

He wants us to come to his fight party. Let's go. Like, all right. Turns out, that is the first time myself and John Jones ever seen an MMA fight. You know, at the same,

that same house party. And so, you know, the place where I, his place, his dorm room that I slept in the whole week with John, this was the same dorm room Kobe Covington slept

the following year when he went to school with John Jones. Yeah. So it intertwined that much. We wrestled. similar guys through college, but we just never,

same weight class, we just never ran into each other. And then, of course, he ends up in South Florida. I end up in South Florida. He's doing MMA for the opposing team, American top team. I'm doing MMA for the opposing team,

the Blacksillion. We know of each other. I guess my name was brought up. My second professional fight that I ended up losing was brought up to Kobe, like would you fight this guy? And I know this because

one of his main coach at American Top Team was then my coach when I fought him eventually years later and that happened to be my first ever wrestling coach when I started wrestling when I was like 13 years old and they brought my name up hey you want to fight this guy and he said oh he's a wrestler too no I don't want to fight him you know so he was a little shook even way back then I had one professional fight then years later we knew of each other

we were around the same circle but I was offered to him like three or four times during in the UFC, he turned it down until he had no choice. You know, once I'd be kept. The only way I would have fought Kobe Covington was the way it went, me becoming champion and then him having a challenge. I've seen you guys. Oh, my bad. Go ahead.

Go ahead. What? No, I've seen you guys, you were, like, at the airport or something and you walked up. Yeah. That's when I, like, really seen it. Like, I think was that the first time you guys actually, like, seen each other and, like, came up to him up to him. So, that was funny.

Funny story. Kobe uh started doing this whole because of course he wasn't getting any love like he was fighting he might have he was winning but he just i mean he's just a pale boring bdi i little mov you know no one really care about this guy yeah and so i'm winning and i'm just kind of moving up more than he is and so he started doing the schick he started talking shit online so he started tweeting and saying stuff online and then i seen it i'm like damn because we just got UFC maybe two fights deep each i'm like why is why is this guy have a problem with me and so we went to a fight i believe i forget where that was at but we went somewhere so we're flying back

so we're all at the airport and it's me i have uh my teammate tyrone spong king of the ring who's one of the best kickboxers ever and um another one of my teammate jesus jackson who fights for bellator so we've seen him at the airport and he's by himself and he's got that stupid little neck pillow on and I see him across, I'm like, all right, I'm gonna run upon him. If he talk crazy, I'm, I'm still on him right here. We're about to fight him right here. But then at the same time, I'm thinking, damn, I don't want to be on a no-fly list, you know, because if you mess around the airport, you get put on that list, I don't want

to do that. So it didn't happen? So I'm thinking, okay, how do I approach it? Let's approach him here, you know, give them, give them, give them the look and let them know hey this is not cool so I go up to him and my teammate is recording it like a jackass so he's recording and he's like

all right and he's instigating it you know how it is he's like you won't do nothing I bet you won't do nothing so I walk up to him and I'm like alright let me not come too aggressive but at the same time let him know that I'm serious so I go and I sit in front of him and I'm like what's going on man

I give him the look like the tough look what's going on man and he was so nice that I felt like a jackass right after the break I was like damn I was trying to be mean and he's trying to be nice

he was like what's up man how are you doing? I was like, uh I'm cool, I'm cool what's up you know so I was all ready for action but he was so nice I was like damn like I'm kind of a jackass here

and he's like oh you got something coming up and then he's like looking around and then he looked back and saw my My two dudes over there, he's like... Do you know it was you? Yeah, he knew. Oh, fuck, he needed. Because he had been talking shit online.

So he knew it was me. So now I felt like a jerk and I'm like, all right. Yeah, I see you later. So I get up and I'm like, damn, I felt like a jerk for that. Then the next week, this motherfucker gets online. He's like, next time you see me at the airport, I'm going to smack this shit out of you. If I see you, I'm like... He's a troll.

I'm like, bro, you were just a nice guy. And that's kind of really at that point. I was like, okay, at some point. Me and him are going to be locked in that octagon and we're going to scrap. Was Jones, Jones was old than you, right? No. No? Me and John are about the exact same age.

What do you think about him? Is he ever going to be back fighting again? Well, John? It seems like he's getting, I mean, John's the man. Yeah, John's the man, you know, minus all the, um, minus all the issues and the controversies and that he's had. I think John's probably one of the greatest to ever do this. Oh, by far.

I mean, and I saw him, you know, like I said, we met in high school and I saw how talented he was early on. So, I mean, he's an amazing talent, amazing mind. You know, if all those extras weren't in there, I think John would probably be, you know, one of the best to ever do this. Do you think, was some of the shit Colby was saying, did it, like, does it piss you off? Like, how do you, like, he was saying some savage shit at that press conference about, like, your father and shit. like does that not like boil your blood or like how do you how do you block that out yeah i mean i just over time i used to be sensitive about it but then i'm just like yeah that's just stupid you know because at the end of the day he can say whatever he wants about my dad but my dad doesn't

have to get in there fight him i do and so i i've learned a long time ago i've mastered the art if i can't be emotional out there i have to be as calm as i can so i can think as much as i want to and just really i'll class him so he thought he did but they didn't mean shit to me it was good though it sold the fight yeah but it didn't mean shit to me yeah absolutely not what age were you when your when your father got arrested i want to say 20 19 sophomore yeah i was still in i was so i would say 19 did you guys have any idea it was coming it was just kind of out of the blue no it was out of that's the crazy shit it was out of the blue because he had um he had been like kind of like a a civil case um um um

with the government and they were kind of like they knew they fucked up they were like all right damn okay here's all your shit back but um you got to sign this NDA that you can't come back and sue us so he got all that done he's like all right i'm gonna go start a new business do the best i can so it was two years after that so everything is okay he's trying to start over then all of a sudden it was the day that i was actually flying back home for like summer break and i was flying back I was at the airport getting ready to board the flight and I get a call from my mom like oh shit they just like came and got him out of nowhere damn so it was that was the last time that I phys the well physically saw him like free yeah I well of course I visited him

after that was he very supportive of you fighting like wanted to fight and wrestle uh not really not really you guys got to understand I got a Nigerian dad yeah I got foreign parents, so I'm Ethiopian, so I get, I get it. What does that mean, though? What does that mean if you have a Nigerian dad? You got an African parent. My son, you will go to school and become a doctor. Yeah, they want to be a pharmacist. Doctor, lawyer. You sound like the guy in blood time.

Or a lawyer. You would be a lawyer, a pharmacist, or a doctor. Go to your room. Go to your room. You said, boy. You could have been in the movie Blood Diamond, DeCabrio. It's pretty good. I think you low-key want to be an actor, too. Of course. Of course. You know, you're talking about, you get more famous, make more money

and not get pushed in the face? Why not? Right, right, right. I can see that, for sure. I see them acting. They even, it's so far off to where they even have a double to fake punch. Right, right, right, right. You know, so why not?

Of course, I would love that. But what were you, what was the path that he wanted you stay on? He wanted to do something about it. He wanted me to call me a doctor. So that's, that's, the fucking head. You're doing surgery? Yeah. And that's the crazy thing is I went to school.

My first two years I was at a small school. in Iowa and I was major in pre-professional biology which I was like okay I get done with this get this degree and I'm gonna go to med school

so after two years I was trucking through it I had like more than half the credits already but then I was just like yo this shit is so boring bro this shit was so boring

and so I'm sitting there and I'm like and I loved wrestling and I was getting better at it I was starting to really take off at working at it so I'm just like

you know what i need to get to a better school because my team here all these dudes just want to smoke weed and not really train and push each other i was like i need to get somewhere else and so i just trans i just like all right call my dad hey dad um i'm gonna transfer to a bigger better school and he was kind of low-key like you know skeptical yeah he's skeptical but the dad always has to have the final say and you know my son you are you sure this is what you want to do Dude, this is the decision you want to make. They're asked that question like multiple times. Yeah, yeah.

I was like, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's it. So I eventually transferred, it was the best decision I ever made. And I mean, it's one of those things. You show and prove with African parents, you have to show, you have to basically prove them wrong. Yes. So it's like, go and become a doctor. And I'm like, no, I want to, I want to do this wrestling thing.

No. When you do it, they get quiet. Then you start doing it and you start succeeding. Then it's like... It's like they don't say nothing. But what do they say to you? What do they like? What the fuck are you doing blowing to people's ears and shit?

I mean... I mean, when I... At first, when I did do it, like, they were definitely not supportive. Like, I was going to get kicked out of the house. I moved out when I was 17. So, like, once I became more successful with it, they just... It died down. Like, they never...

Like, he's on his shit. Like, you know? So they're cool with it. So I ain't know that was you that was doing all that. So I see it. I've seen clips before online, and I was like, this dude's doing something dangerous thing because what if you're running this stuff?

What would you do? What would you do? Yeah. If you whisper in your ear like that and gave a really good moan and like fucking right in your ear and fucking the weird way. You're just buying some stakes at Ralph's and then Slim comes up and just moans in your hair.

I think I would react. Like, there was one that I saw with this, this little skinny dude, uh, nerdy-looking dude. And he turns around, he goes, what was that? Oh, yeah. Huh?

Fuck your shit up, huh? You sound exactly like him. I knew exactly what you talked about. I was like, I might react probably like that. You know. Because you're not allowed to hit anybody, right? Like, aren't you like a weapon, a licensed weapon? It's not that I'm not allowed to hit anybody.

It's just like, you know, of course I can't instigate it. It's not a good look. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And plus, if it comes down to where they're handing off the sentence, you know, this guy picked the fight with you. you completely dismantled them now you look like the bad guy when they touch you yes

yeah I can defend myself yeah you have to defend myself but I just can't do people ever try to like press you no I just um we were about to for being late I just don't give that energy though I just I feel like some people have that energy you know there's some fighters that just

they gotta be the tough guy when they walk into a bar they need to be the tough guy they need to give that energy I don't give a shit I like to be the guy in the back in the corner who you don't know

that I'll fuck your day up you know that's that's that's the guy that I am I want to be just cool and chilling you know do you think

why you're looking at me like that why you fucking grill I feel like you was going to say so I'm going to say so don't be staring at me I never had a fucking UFC champion

look at me like that I'm getting you guys are safe you guys are safe tighten it up a little bit what about this whole thing I'm seeing online about I saw 10 hours ago or something

an article about Canello would fuck you up. Is that what I heard? I don't think so. Did you say you wanted to fight Canello? Absolutely. See, this is a crazy thing. And I was crazy.

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I don't think it's ever been done. And so now, Canelo's ran out of guys to fight because it's just like, it's not interesting. Like, who would I pay to see you fight that you haven't beat up? Did he fight Tank Davis? No. No, no. Tank Davis is like a little bit. He's on another, okay.

Tank Davis is like a 25, 30 pounder. Yeah, I don't know. Canelo goes from like 55 all the way up to like 70 something he just fall or 68. And now he's about to fight a guy at Cruze away, which is I think 195. Wow. The guy has 14,000 Instagram followers. What? Do you know who's about to fight?

No. Exactly. No, I don't know. No clue. That's the problem with boxing, I feel, is you never know like. It's always a big star and someone completely fucking random. They pick some guy. Okay, Tank Davis.

We all know who Tank Davis is, right? Yeah, who's Tank Davis fighting next? Isaac Cruz. Who? Is it Isaac Cruz? That's only because we just interviewed him, but yeah. Otherwise. Isaac Cruz.

Who's Isaac Cruz? I don't know who Isaac. He was supposed to fight Roli Romero or whatever. Who's that? I don't know. I have no fucking idea of any of these guys. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, that is true, yeah.

So this is a situation. I'm like, I'm willing to take the risk as a fighter. That's the thing with MMA fighters. We are brave enough to say, fuck, that's dangerous. That's scary. But we're brave enough to it. We're going to go in your field and we're going to take that risk and challenge you guys. What boxer have you seen say, you know what?

Fuck that. I'm going to go into MMA. Who's the OG guy that fought Randy? James Tony. James Tony was a badass dude, you know, said, you know what? Fuck that. I'm going to go over there and try it. But who else?

What are the boxers you know that's willing to do that? Right. They're not willing to take that risk. And even when it comes to, we coming over there to boxing, they're like, oh, no, that doesn't really interest me. Because they understand that it's a risk. I could get beat up by these guys. These guys are actual fighters. So then they act like,

I don't know that guy. No, motherfucker, you know who we are. Don't say we don't, because if you look at the demographic of who's watching boxing, who's watching fighting right now. You know,

what are the people watching more? MMA, UFC, or boxing? You know, boxing, of course, has its history, it's long history, but these guys are destroying it

when they just don't fight the biggest, baddest dude out there. They just hand... Like Tyson Holyfield back in the day. Yeah. They were going out of it. Tyson only field,

Redick Bow, Lennox Lewis, these guys all fought each other. That's when boxing was in glory days. But right now, these guys just... There's no stars. There's no stars in boxing, there isn't a lot of stars. And they're like, oh, this is for my legacy. How is it for your legacy when you're picking and choosing?

And you just, oh, the easiest guy so I can go take his belt and that's it. Don't a lot of other pieces have to fall in place, though, like Dana and fucking whoever else... Yeah, how... Absolutely. For this to be the biggest fight ever, which I truly believe it would be, because this has never been done, the biggest fight ever. probably generate for it to generate the most money ever

of course the greatest promoter has to do it Dana White is promoted I mean for you to turn But doesn't Dana have to be involved Like don't you guys have contracts as UFC fighters That like they could say yes or no I mean yeah of course We have to talk to Dana Yeah we have to talk to Dana

Plus I wouldn't want it any other way You know Dana knows what he's doing For him to turn the UFC to what it is today Think about that Yeah you you absolutely have to have him involved And look at what he did with Connor and... Yeah, yeah, that was just about to bring out.

That was like, that was crazy. He's doing. So why would we go in the other route? You think he'll go for it? I mean, I think if it makes sense, you know. Canello doesn't want to do it, though. Canella makes money, makes sense. But that's what I'm saying, though.

Why wouldn't you want to do that? If you know that you're going to win anyways, you're confident that you're going to win? Yeah. Why wouldn't you do it? When you're going to get way more famous, you're going to make way more money than you ever make and ever fight, why would you not do it?

If you're a little worried, you're like, ah, you know what? Let me just keep beating up these guys over here. No one knows that, you know. It's strictly, it would be obviously strictly boxing. Yeah, I mean, you know. He comes to this side. Like here and there, but it might be.

If he comes to this side of the game over. That'd be hilarious. If you just boxed them and just threw a fucking like it. Think about that. Okay. Now, let's think about this. Okay. A boxer.

He comes over here. What more, who has a better chance? He comes over here or me goes over there. Who has a better chance of potentially? You're going over there. Yeah, you're going over there. He going over here is just the way. Yeah.

He understands that. He knows that. So, of course, he's going to play it. No, I don't like this. I don't know. This don't make sense for me. So why don't you ever consider, if you're running through your weight class and all that,

why don't you ever consider going up? Because I would. I would. If the champion who wasn't who the champion was, absolutely. Israel. Israel. Israel style bender,

a style bender adissania. You know, Adisania. If he wasn't the champion, absolutely. I'm sorry for being. So what does that mean? you guys are boys

Israel is a fellow Nigerian Okay There is I can count probably on my hands and feet how many Africans are in the UFC And For to have that many Africans in the UFC and to have three

champions You want to keep thrown Three champions That is crazy Freaking literally Three champ That's never like We don't even know the sport like that

And to have three champions That means so much to me That it's why would I want to do that? And I've said it before. Having two Nigerian or two African champions is more important to me than one African champions with two belts. Do people usually go

up and wait? Have people ever go down to fight? Yeah, yeah. I believe T.J. Dilashaw did that. It didn't work out well for him. Why is that? Because he's got to cut so much. It's just tough. He had to cut weight, but he also went down to fight a savage in Henry Sehudo and, you know, probably one of the best combat athletes ever. And it didn't

work out well for him. Yeah. So you're just going to stay in this weight class for a while unless that guy's dethroned? Who's like? Who else? Let's say Canello doesn't play out. What could you even do? Well, I mean, you've got guys. Leon Edwards has made a lot of headlines now.

You know, he's, well, I mean, as far as he's been doing his job. His last loss was to me. And that was in 2000. I'd be 15 or 16. And, you know, he's rebounded. He's been getting wind after wins after wins. You know, it probably isn't the prettiest, but he's been doing his job. So it makes sense for me to defend against him.

But, you know, it's kind of like a short list of guys that. could really potentially give me that challenge yeah your win streak where are you at right now with your win streak 18 he's what are you 25 and 1 you're 21 you're 21 and 1 right 21 21 21 is that one loss just fucking kill you no you know why because um like they say you don't you don't lose you learn that loss fueled me so much to where I remember it to this day like I I remember the fight just like it was yesterday you know And this was the biggest thing is before the fight leading up, everyone was like, I never trained Jiu-Jitsu

because I was just such more, I just left the Olympic Training Center in wrestling, and I was just so much superior than these guys. I was like, you know, I don't need, I don't need Jiu-Jitsu. You know, I'm good. Yeah, I'm good. So I'm learning, striking a little bit. So I'm like, I could take these guys down when I won.

I could prevent them from taking me down. I don't need it. So everyone all leading up to the fight, everyone, my teammates. Oh, they, because they knew the guy. They were from the area. They were like, you're going to kill this guy on my Brazilian teammate.

You're going to kill him. You're going to do well. I'm going to, I'm like, yeah, I'm going to kill him. I'm going to do well. So I started feeling myself a little bit. And then we get in the fight. It's easy work. I'm moving.

I throw a one, two, boom, boom. I hit him. I change levels, double leg him, take him down. Form out. I get on top. And I'm just kind of punching the way. I'm like, oh, man, this is easy. It's going to be easy breeze.

The dude is like 6-4, 6-5, and long and skinny. And it kind of looked like you. Just kidding. So he throws his legs around me, like around my body. I've never seen this before. And I just remember like, oh, sure. Oh, those are his legs? Oh, shit.

So his legs come around my waist into my armpits. Because I'm on him. I'm full mount. I'm on top of him. He's on his back. And he throws his legs. around my waist. I'm like, what the f?

I've never seen this shit before. So I'm like, let me turn around, let me get up because it's foreign. I'm kind of scared. I don't know what's going on. So I tried to get up, which is not what you do. And so he went right into a leg lock.

I'd never seen that shit before either. Like, I'm like, no. Then we turn and get out. So I tried to run out or wait. And this is like literally a minute and a half into the fight. And we're dry. We're not sweating yet. And he just climbed up in my back.

and I'm standing and I'm holding this guy up for like almost two minutes and it just got he got heaviest shit my legs starts shaking and then I start thinking

and he's trying to sink the choke in he's fighting for the choke and then now your mind starts playing tricks on you I start remembering all the conversations that was in the back and the commission had a conversation with us yeah and the commission

when we're in the back they told us if you get choked unconscious or knocked out because you know you as a fighter you're like no I'll never tap I'm never tapping you got to kill me I'm never tapping and then the commission says if you get choked unconscious you're going to be suspended for six months that means you can't fight for six months really I'm getting paid $1,500 and $1,500 for this fight so if I win I get $3,000

and I'm broke as hell so I'm like if I get choked unconscious that means I can't fight for six months that means I can't get another 1,500 for six months and then now I start hearing his corners going he's gonna tap I wasn't thinking tap but now his corner said it

and now I'm thinking I might tap so he's like he's gonna tap and I'm like shit I need that check for six months All right, fuck it. All right.

Let me try to, let me live to fight another day. So as soon as I tap, I felt so worthless. I was like, wow. Not only did I just give up. I gave up with myself. I gave up my dream. I gave up on everything. I was like, I would never, ever feel this feeling again.

Is that your biggest regret? Definitely that fight? No, it's not my biggest regret because I learned the lesson. So I walked out of the cage. I went in the back. There was this hallway. There was nobody there, but just me.

I paced for like two hours. I missed the rest of the fight. I was like the second fight. I missed the rest of all the fights. I was just back there pacing and I was just thinking like, I fucking suck. I need to learn everything there is to learn about the sport

if I'm going to be champion. And then I took a week off. came back the next week. I bought a ghee. I was at Jiu-Jitsu practice. Every Monday, Wednesday and Fridays. That guy's probably flexing so hard right now. Like, just right now, just being like a... Oh, that's his claim to faint.

Right. He's got to be like the man right now. Is he washed up now? Is he still... I mean, I just don't know. No, hell no. No. He's ever... You want a rematch? Should we set that up instead of...

I would 1,000% love rematch. If he would pay the same as... We could set up now. We could set up in, like, the backyard or something. The backyard. I mean, I don't fight for free no more, you know. I mean, if he would pay for... thousand percent i would love you gotta want a little revenge on that guy

yeah you know i think about it i'm like i want to be like apollo creed and just say you know what i get to pick and choose anybody now let's go get this guy it would be pretty savage you we were like you know what just for free i'm just gonna fuck this guy up like that like that like you should maybe do like for what what what is it free once you should do one like free fight what does that mean like it means you don't get paid anything whoa are you in the ufc anyway profanity here yo no we don't do that for for free anymore. No. No, absolutely. I mean, broken hands, we don't do these for free.

No. So, so is this your, I mean, that's the same question, but was this, your biggest payday? Was this, this fight? I mean, they get bigger and better each, everyone. We don't take lateral steps, you know, they gotta, they gotta make sense. So, is that a tough conversation with Dana? What? You know, as far as when the money comes into place? I mean, Dana does his job well. That's why he is who he is. And so that's why I have, you know, a whole management team who do their job well. And so when it's time to have that conversation

we'll go sit down and we have that conversation. Yeah. Wow. Are you guys, you guys, you guys are going to... Do you want to come to the meeting and help defend you? I can't have good time. I mean, I might need you.

I can make those numbers go up a little bit. You know, I might need you. So I don't know yet. I might need you. Was there ever any GSP talk? Absolutely. I wanted it because... That'd be crazy, man.

See, that's... He's old, though, isn't he? I just... Man, that's like... like that's such a fuck that's a brother's best showgun and j uh gsp those days were fucking awesome yeah i love those i love those days oh my god see that's the thing is see george is the shadow that haunts the division kind of well it did not anymore but definitely did when tyrant willy was champ you know that he haunted the division when robbie lala was champ

george haunted the division because it was like everyone knew the champ never lost his belt and he just kind of was floating out there still training you could tell that he was still working out and he was just kind of out there it's like kabib why does that never why does that never happen like kabib now yeah he hunks the lightweight division just like yeah cabbyb's a champ you know yeah yeah if a champ never really loses that belt and they can still perform so if you wanted it why do you think like the gs gsp wasn't into it george doesn't want it i mean it makes sense because there was the kabib talk too with gsp yeah it makes sense

You know, with Khabib, it would probably be more of a grappling affair, which I think Kabeb might get the better of him. You know, I know a lot of people would think, oh, no, he's a smaller guy. Kibb's bigger than me right now. Wait, right now, though? Isn't George, like, old? He's not old. 40-something.

George's still doing backflits. George's still doing. He's older, but he's still in shape. But he is 40-something. He's lost a little bit if he has to have lost a little bit of a little of a little of this. Yeah, but listen, George didn't fight for one with three and four years, came back, up a division and became the champion. But I heard he wanted back with Kabib. Yeah, of course he wanted to do that, but it just didn't make sense.

You know, why would you want to fight the lighter guy at a higher weight? It makes no sense for a non-title. It makes no sense. You want to come back. You know, you're the Walterweight champion. Come for tomorrow. Come back to your weight class, you know. I feel like we should get that going.

You know, but he don't want it. I know he doesn't want it. So it's okay. I've let that ship sail because, you know, he's retired. Let him retire in peace, you know. eat and drink and do whatever he wants who is who is the the champ again above your weight class again that you said you wouldn't fight israel so he loses and you're running through will you jump up yeah yeah absolutely i don't think he's losing though i don't think so either israel israel's dangerous

man yeah i don't think so dynamic and what he does i just i don't think those guys got anything for him so it's just going to be an africa takeover you know right now it's every fucking division at this point yeah yeah we got three belts right now where there's more coming so you see a lot of people from over there now after you guys have probably you know shown success up starting to come over here and fight absolutely but a lot of it a lot of it starts with us too you know they can you know they can watch it all they want they can be fans but if there's no nothing there no organization to really create the dynamic to help these guys get into the sport then we failed them so you're saying there's no resources over there to

there wasn't but now we're working on that you know i've uh you know i've uh you know I've started, I partnered up with the company, the 5-4 company, which is, we've done our own first reality show, which is the same thing as the ultimate fighter, just a little different. It's called African Knockout, A.K.O. And they've already done one season. They're going to do a second season. And basically, we want to create that foundation to where now, let's be honest, you start getting Africans in this thing. We take over. Yeah.

We take it over. Let's just be honest. I wouldn't necessarily say the Ethiopians. but Nigerians, yeah, for sure. For sure. That's the Boston. We take over. The Ethiopians are the brains.

We're the brains. They'll manage everything. We're the skinny, like, you know, we're the brains, you know what I mean? They're the brains. They're going to manage everything. Make sure that everybody's getting paid. What year did you leave to come over here? When I was like eight.

So I think that was like 90, I want to say 95. Wow. How has Nigeria, like, shaped your career? Like living there? I mean, I've, I just. just went back in June and just to see how I saw both sides you see the good and the bad but it's like it's not what you think because everyone says oh Africa and then immediately when you hear Africa immediately hear Africa you think lions you think oh they're just running around

just savagely eating people and just yeah then you go there and you see McDonald's uh you see papa you see KFC is yeah people think there's dirt road So is it dangerous? What? Is it dangerous? It's dangerous everywhere. Right. You go to Chicago.

You can't shut up. That's what I say too. You can't wear plaid in certain hoods or wear green or red, you know, like it's dangerous everywhere. You know, that's the thing. There's places you go and places you don't go if you don't know anything about. So but- So you came from poverty? I mean, I wouldn't say poverty.

We didn't have, you know, of course I didn't, I didn't, I didn't. have what we had now like we farmed in order to be able to to make ends me my mom was a teacher she owned the shop as well and we're still farmed in certain seasons you know and my dad was already here um trying to work and you know potentially make some money and help us so we weren't the richest that's damn sure but what i considered poor is not what we were you know it wasn't like like we woke up and there was nothing the next day there was no plan no way to do anything to acquire anything and i saw that going back and when you see that it completely changes your perspective on life so that's that's poverty i got to go see ethiopia yeah that would be crazy

you've never been there never been born here my yeah my mom owned uh injera spot great like in ethiopia too same thing okay kind of similar to your situation yeah yeah i got to go see it It must be. Absolutely. Absolutely. Yeah, it's, um... So there's good and bad parts just like, just like anything. Bro, there's parts you'd be at.

You'd be like, damn, am I in downtown L.A.? Am I in downtown? Yeah. I mean, uh, 90, especially Nigeria. Nigeria's got to be one of the wealthiest nations, you know, as far as resources, we have everything. Um, it's just, of course, there's been some bad, you know, things have happened for generations that have kind of ate away at the country.

but you'll see, I mean, building sky, like a couple of my buddies own skyscrapers, like 26 stories in the penthouse. You're like, what the kind of door is that? I've never seen that before. You know, what kind of furniture is this? What kind of sound system is that? I never heard that.

You know, it's stuff is top of the line. Then you can go two miles down the road. It's like, whoa. Yeah, Americans are scared of every other country, but America, I feel. I think America is the best marketing machine in the world. You know, the absolutely best marketing machine because America tells the world what's good

and what's not good. America tells the world what to wear, how to smell, you know, and I think that's what it has on everybody else. So when a different culture comes over and they're trying to like, you know, fit in, but what do we say here? You know, you get someone that comes into the country

and they don't speak English, you know, learn English. That's what we do. Learn English. If you want to stay here, you've got to learn English. You know, what kind of food is that? Ugh, no, eat burgers, eat what we eat? You know, to where in most countries, especially in African countries,

you go there, your differences are celebrated. If you go to Africa, they look at you. Oh, my God, you're new. Oh, come here, take pictures with you. Oh, you're new. Oh, Iibo, now Ibo, boy, be this. That's what they're going to call you. That's exactly.

We celebrate differences. We're here. It's kind of like, bro. Learn the language. you know i spoke that earlier and you gave me this look like what the what was that how the language was that no i didn't say i'm saying it sounded like the fucking movie i just you should you should hear all my mom talks or like ethiop man it's like it's it's crazy do you do you speak fluent yeah from odysse can you hear do you understand it i can't really

speak it but i can understand everything that she's saying that's weird how that works yeah is Kabib, real quick, is Kabeb retired now? Is that what it is? Yeah. So he's done. He's never fighting again. He's retired. Retired? Yeah. Kibibu's retired. Why are you looking like that? Is there something we don't know? What are you saying?

He's retired, but Kibbis, what, 33 years old? So you don't think he's retired? No, I'm saying, he's retired. No, he's not. You're looking at your guy. Something's going on here. You know something that we don't. He's retired. He's retired, right? You think he'll ever fight again? I don't know. I don't know. It has to make sense for him.

I don't think he would. because, I mean, let's be honest, like, Khabibb is doing so well, even retired. He went 29-0, that's it. He went 29-0. Why did he just drop out? You accomplished everything. What else you did it? What do you mean?

But I will say, I think it's, like, kind of a strategy to retire, too. I mean, Floyd retired, a lot of people do that, right? No. I feel like if there's a fight, there might, who knows, there might come a fight along? There's no strategy behind that. The problem is, it makes it more hype, though. The problem is, the new. BEMO V-I-Porter MasterCard is your ticket to more.

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But it's like, no, you can't leave until you lose. Yeah. So no, that guy, this is the next guy. This guy is going to beat you. You know, you stay until you lose. And it's like that. We just want to see them lose. We want to see them humanize.

You know, we don't want to see them superhero when they go out. Like Floyd, you wanted to see him keep fighting until someone stepped up and beat him. Same with Kabib. Why would he keep fighting? he's made money to where he's comfortable he's good so why wouldn't he leave i just feel like if he's in shape i feel like maybe there might be a chance that a fight comes along that may be interesting and he'll

still be in shape so he could do it i think it'd be amazing to see him fight again but i i think he was a great choice obviously he ran through everyone there's nothing left for him to do but in two years i wonder if someone will come along that gets that chatter going and then i i feel like once he says i feel like he loves it but who knows but that's the thing like look right now is like I've beat everybody. Now I'm beating them twice. But it's like, oh, if I decided to say, oh, I wanted to retire, which I'm not saying that at all, if I decided to say something like that, then it's like, everyone's like,

no, you can't retire? What? That's, no. No, we want to see you lose. Like, no, we got this guy. This is the next guy. This guy can beat you. Or it's that guy or it's that guy.

That's just how we're programmed. Someone has to beat them in order for people to accept retirement. That must be hard going back and forth, huh? Just hearing fans say, no, please, like, and then, like, I got to retire. Like, that must be, like, hard on him. I feel like anything else. Yeah, I don't think he cares. But no, it was such a nice move to finish on top.

Like, that's so, that's so sick. He did it, 29-0, oh, God, a pocket full of money, you know, family's good. And then, of course, when you go through something like that, losing your father, it's, from what I've seen and what I understand about his bond with his father. this was you know he said his father's dream was for him to become champion his father wanted to show the world that i raised a son that was the best in the world and he did that he accomplished that with his father he was able to have his father coach him for a fight while he defended the bell and he checked off all those boxes so why still stick around yeah i just felt when he said it he that's it i just felt like he was just we were at that fight in Abu dhabi and so we went there for that whole trip and like did the quarantining everything and then we saw the fight and we're like we thought i was going to be a big celebration after the fight with like Dana and stuff and then Khabib just gets the mic and retires and all them just walk out of the fucking out of the arena

and we're like oh shit it was pretty dead after that yeah don't do this we went in the back room after and it was just silent silent yeah that was crazy I had a feeling it was coming but I didn't fuck up Kyle I know I wasn't all right I fucking know I wasn't yeah he left you know he flew the next day no he flew

all the way there did the quarantine for 48 hours and then flew home left Because he thought something bad was going to happen. My job was done. My job was done. I dropped these guys off. I introduced them to Dana. I introduced them to Dana.

I fucking dropped them off. Introduce them to Dana. Set that relationship up. So you know how you're talking about... Why would you... What bad... You know how you're talking about... My dad had an eye infection.

People are scared of other countries. Yeah. That's this guy right here. Wow. Not as all true. You would actually... Abudabia left right away. I'm not scared of Abu Dabu's the greatest place ever.

It was a place. Well, now you know that because you've seen it in the note video. Yeah. We were on race cars. My father had a minor eye infection, and I had to go check on him. And I had, that's what happened. But I did, I ended up, I did leave. His dad had pink eye, and he said he had to go home.

His dad was sick. You flew all the way to Abu Dhabi. 17 hours, sat a hotel in 48, and then flew home 17. And I did kind of kick myself after. Wow. But it was the greatest. You know what I got ADHD, so I can't, like, sit still very often. Yeah, that was kind of, honestly, it was a little difficult.

It's just like, you know, it's like, it's just didn't. But I'm sure you guys, those rooms are. They're nice, though. Oh, great. We said those humongous rooms. You get your clothes clean, man. It's amazing. You know, they just bring food to you.

Like, it's, it's amazing. But you got, you can't do it. You can't, well, you by yourself. We were all together. Oh. But we were all like separate hotel rooms, though, because it was COVID. So we had like quarantine 48 and then everybody after the 48 hour. Did you guys go in each other's room?

Yeah, we snuck through the little barriers. Yeah. Yeah. We went around the balcony. How, you guys, do you have games and I think car games and nothing like that? Well, actually, we did. We were betting on your, we were betting on the, fights.

We're bending on fights. That's when I watched all of Khabib's shit because I wasn't like a big I didn't know too much about it but I've seen all his fights his Barbosa fight I've seen everything.

That's how I like Sorry, sorry my dad No, the cauliflower air thing Is that the most pain Do they say it's the most painful process? Is there any way to prevent that? Every fighter has cauliflower ears. I don't know if every fighter

Doesn't? I mean just every guy you see it's close It's close, you know But I don't know if you could I mean I guess wear head gear you know like in wrestling we have these head gears that we wear and somewhat they they kind of protect it a little bit

but at the end of day no you just when you're that rigorous on it you continue to grind it and drive it through at some point those you know it's gonna pop and does it so it's just from what just it's from like a buildup just trauma no it's not pus it's all blood it's just the trauma to it so like the little you know veins and I guess start to pop and then they just kind of feel up with blood and it hardens fairly quickly so if you don't drain it and kind of keep it down

then it just kind of hard it's just the blood's growing huh yeah the blood's just hard so you can touch it right now it feels like stone it's just hard right how long do you have to drain it to prevent it well I would drain it immediately to try to get all the blood out and then cast it to try to keep it normal looking for the most part but you know I get to a point where I relatively have decent really no I have Yeah, you're clean. Yeah, but he's the guy today. The guy's fucking earballs. He was pumping out like this.

That's not even the worst. Did you see this girl that you, former UFC fighter Leslie Smith, that was it, Leslie Smith, who her ear popped. Oh, my God. She got hit and it blew up and it was just like hanging out. Oh, my God. It was crazy. And I think RDA, or Rafael de Sanja, same, his ear popped.

Like, because it gets so hard and it sticks out like this, it's easy to just kind of rub it. You guys can't listen to it. Like earphone, none of, uh, can't put air pods. I can still, I can't. Yeah, can you guys use your AirPods? Yeah, I can still use my AirPods. That's all right.

You're lucky, yeah. Yeah, I'm lucky. What do they do? Do they just shove a needle in it and zap it out? Yeah, you just stick a needle in it and you just, you know, you draw the blood out. Yeah. And then you want to cast it. There's like this rubber way that they put this rubber foam in there and it kind of squeezes it together.

It's painful, though, right? Yeah, it is very painful. Right, because I was hearing it is one of the most painful things. It is very painful. Painful things possible. so when would you retire if you ever what would make what would force you into retirement? When I was

What would force me into retirement That's the thing is that's the goal is I don't want to be forced into retirement I um Yeah what do you want to achieve like left like I want to continue to just build off of everything You just want to keep dominating basically Yeah I want to get to the heights you know like Obviously what tops what I just did

You know before that was you know of course I was I want to be the champion accomplished that. I want a headline pay-per-view in Las Vegas T-Mobile Arena did that

okay headline Abu Dhabi did that be the first fight back with fans in the world

headlining Jacksonville and knock somebody unconscious did that how do I top that headline Madison Square Garden the most famous arena in the world

did that how do you top that how about I go beat the shit out of the pound for pound my best boxer in the world. You know, but he's like, I don't want to do it. Do you think you could beat him in boxing?

I think I can do anything, to be honest with you. I love that. Like, if I didn't trust, like, if I didn't believe in myself, of course I'm scared. I'm scared, of course. That's Canelo. He's, you know, consider the best powerful pound boxer right now. Of course I'm scared. That fear, that's what we do.

We're so courageous as mixed martial arts. You have no idea. For every MMA fighter, if they tell you I'm never scared and I just go out. then I just win, they're lying. They're lying because it's almost like to be, it's being human is to be scared in the back because you sign the contract to go physically fight another man in front of millions around the world.

Like, you're going to be scared, but we're courageous enough to what we're going to walk towards that fear and punch it in the mouth. And that's what I'm trying to do. Does that fear go away when you step in the ring? Is that when it just go away? When you get hit, it's like shit. As soon as that Vaseline's on, that's it.

As soon as you get hit, it's like, oh shit this is real all right find a way to win here and and that's what I do best so when you're walking out in your little walk by the way I almost bumped into you I Dana gave me the VIP access so I didn't know that you would come out

you were coming out with your flag on on your back and all that that was you that interrupted my walkout I did I swear to God yeah that's my bad I was trying to throw you off I had money on Covington okay I was trying to fog you up a little bit I tried to spill his leg or something

I saw your face I knew it he was a Covington fan when I saw I was not a Covington fan at all no I was actually I had no dog in that fight I had no dog in that fight I looked you right in the eye and type of the gods on the street I had no dog in the fight

I just wanted to see a good fight and I want to see the best guy win That was a good fight Just like the Gaetchi Chandler one That was a really good fight man Like that It was easy Were you pissed

You didn't knock him out I wouldn't say pissed I was a little disappointed So You were fucking close though It's weird I was in the back And I was rocked

The whole time I just manifested I'm like I'm gonna knock him out Yeah the first one You broke his jaw Yeah I was like I'm so much better than him now

I'm gonna knock him out but what I didn't realize too is that I haven't threw my right hand in three weeks leading up to this fight it takes timing you have to really be clicking to really be able to find that shot so this is gonna be the first time

I'm throwing my right hand in three and a half weeks and so I get in the fight and go on I'm like damn I just can't find him with that right hand but that's because my timing wasn't there but the left hand I was finding him though and he's tough he showed how tough he was

he was able to recover very quickly you know, I made him kind of do the stanky leg a couple of times but, you know, he was able to recover quickly and hold on and not get finished. What do you have to say about him, like, saying, like, you fake the eye poke and, like, the nutshot, like... Bro, because he was, he was saying that a lot.

Can we pull that up? Yeah, he was, of course. Yeah, he did. I mean, he did, but, like... The world watched you finger my eyeball. Like, on national television. We will be the judge of that. We will be the judge of that.

All right, let's put it up. Let's pull it up. Rusebond, give us a moment, please. Let's go to the film. Because word of the street is, you faked the eye injury. Okay. That's word on the street. You said I fake the eye injury.

The eye poke, whatever the fuck is. Yeah, and I'll replay it for you guys. Take a look here. That is, yeah. Whoa, whoa, whoa, wait a minute. Oh, they got the zoom in. This looks like an over-exaggeration here a little bit. No.

No, that's an eye poke. Okay, so let me tell you exactly what happened in this. So we're banging, we're banging. And then he pokes his hand out. And why he puts his hand out what he does Because usually between the rounds You have Vaseline on They put Vaseline on you

And but the cut man They come in and put Vaseline on you so you don't cut So we're going And he grazes the Vaseline From this eye into the eye And then fingers into the other eye So I'm like shit He fingered my eye

But the Vaseline was on this eye So it was completely clouded I can see So then we get the referee in there I'm like Why not the referee the doctor and I'm like, bro, just wipe this fucking Vaseline on my eyes so I can get, go back into it, so I can get going, because I'm about to knock this dude out.

And the, what is his name? The doctor goes, I can't touch her. I was like, are you fucking kidding me? You hear me say it to him. I'm like, just wipe my damn eyes so I can get, so I can go back into this fight. And he's like, then he wipes my eye. He finally wipes him like, let's fucking go.

And we get back to going. And he was like, you fake the eye. How do I fake an eye poke? Your eyes. Was this to the point, though, in the fight where you could have used a little break? What? Was this to the point in the fight

you could have used a little break? I don't need a little... Go back to the beginning of the round. Let's watch that whole round. Okay, let's watch that whole round. What round is it? Need a break. I don't know if you needed a break.

I never need a break. You might need it a little breather. It looks like Vaseline. There's a lot of moving parts here. I think it's smart. I think what's that round. I never need a break. Bro, I control every fight.

I push every pace. You do? Yeah, like I don't need a break. No, I know. I'm just saying there's a lot of moving parts. Vaseline up people's fingernails and eyeballs and all this shit. I mean, I don't know. I'm just saying. Yeah, of course, of course. No, let's

play the round and watch how I dominated the round. I know how I finished around. I want to go strictly to see zoom in on the Vaseline on the fingers. That's what I want to see. No, go to after it happens. Go to after it happens. It was in the final round? No, it was like round three. I mean, here's a deal. You beat him fucking twice. Anyways. So like at the end of the day, you beat him twice. Let's see, let's see it happen. And I want, I want to see you guys hear me talk to the doctor.

I want to go in between the rounds, too, and see if he dipped his fingers in the Vaseline. Okay, yeah. You know what, I'm thinking. It was looking like there was a blobs of gasoline, whatever it is Vaseline. There's always the Vaseline drama in the UFC. Remember when GSP got in trouble for that, too?

But that's because we, our fingers are out. No, but then they grease him up? First BJ Penn. I don't know. I allegedly, I'm not speaking on that because I was not there. I didn't watch them grease him in the back, so I can't really say. But all I can say,

is I have Vaseline on me he grazed it and pulled it into my eye and I was like obviously we're fucked with you yeah I know you are I think that I think you're a Covington fan I know I am not a Covemberton fan I am not a Covemberton fan I'm not he's a Covington fan so I know he is He cried he cried when Trump lost the election I was not even there were a lot people who cried

Hey I was I was not I'll tell you the God's honest truth I was in your fight I didn't give a fuck who won I was You just wanted to see violence. I wanted to see a good fight. I was just pop up on the good fight. I've seen you react to his video when he had the MAGA hat on and he was like, you're dead. Oh my God.

That was so funny. You know what? It was such a good buildup, like you said. Like the fight was, it was, there was so much hype for the fight. You know, he was really pissed. He was really bad. Because think about it. Think about it.

You talked so much shit. And then you got your jaw broken on national television. You attract the. heavy shit talkers. I do. How about Mazvedol? I do. I love it though.

That must have felt good. You to knock it up a fuck-up. Yeah, that must have felt really good. Was that, like, as real beef as Covington's? Like, was that, like, the same level of, like, real beef? It was. There's a lot of moving parts that happen to these fights because it gets deeper than just the two fighters.

Now, you've got to talk about, you know, managers. You talk about the people that are behind the scenes, the coaches and father. Like, people that are behind the fighter. Yeah, a lot of people get dark, man. They, like, go beyond. Yeah, ours was a little deeper Me and Massadol was Me and Massadol per se

I don't think we'd have a problem with each other If we were around each other It wouldn't be a problem He'd just be over there, I'd be over here So it's the manager beefs that really That's what chicken series That amplified a button That amplified that one a lot

Because then you got to ride for your squad You know My manager's don't like your manager You got to ride for your squad If my fighter doesn't like your fighter Managers's got to ride for their squad You know So that played a part in it

But I think if it was me and Massoudal was in a room I think we could be cordial enough to know that you stay in your spot I stay in my spot, no beef. But if me and Coventy was in a room, there would be a lot of furniture moving in that room. What's the beef with you and Connor? I've seen you guys like talking back and forth as well. Connor is just, did you guys see Chales, I'm a quote to him, you know,

lately Chale Sunning? What was it? You know, where he said that Connor's just a rich little weirdo right now. And he is. He's on some shit. He's behaving. He punched the DJs. He's a rich little weirdo right now.

And that's exactly what he is. Is like, come on, bro. You're not even like, fighters don't even, you're punching DJ. DJs don't even scared of you outside right now. You know, that's the level that you're on. You fell so high, you know, to where even DJ, even old dudes at the bar aren't even scared of you anymore. You have to punch them. Machine gun Kelly, too.

Like, yeah. Machine gun. Kelly's not even scared of you. You know, that's the level that Connor's on. Connor used to be Connor McGregor and the UFC fighting knocking people out now he's

After that could fight He just completely dominated him On his way down Obviously he's been on his way down After that could be He was game over for him Like Completely

And now all he tries to do And it's strategic It's systematic Now right Yeah He's systematic He's strategic When he sees anything

Happening that's bigger than him He tries to steal the cloud He'll tweet every major fight that happens what happened Connor tweets about it oh tweets about this every time I fight

he's talking about me he tweets about me oh you're stealing my style how what are you talking about you know like at the end of the day I state what I'm capable

of doing and what I'm going to do you know so he's oh you stole the way that I threw this combination or this punch bro it's fighting

if it works I don't think you're thinking about that at the ring this two one two works it works oh no that was mine that was mine i did the one too were you the first one ever do it you fucking weirdo it's kind of sad to see honestly a little bit like man honestly i mean he had it's right what he'll

probably make his money doing it he'll probably shift well he's already made a lot of money he's made he's made he's made he makes more of his money he'll probably end up doing these fights against but that's what was but you know he's locked up he's not doing anything i feel like he deserved unless dana white says so he's not doing anything he's locked up by he he's not doing nothing if dana doesn't say he can do he's not doing nothing he i mean honestly he deserved it like after Like when I seen what he was saying to like Khabib and stuff like dude you deserve to get smacked The father thing was like that was very like disrespect yeah because me I can't I come from a Muslim background and for him to like say all that to like Khabib like about Khabib's dad is like wow man you got like no yeah these guys these guys just forget that there's there's a there's a place that's there's a limit there's a threshold what you can say You know, and what you can't say.

Yeah, you can try to build a fight, but we're just in this generation to where people just don't care. They'll say anything to build a fight. And, you know, he got dealt with for it. That must haunt him that loss. Oh, yeah, man. He got destroyed, bro. Like, wait, before he didn't get hurt, though.

No, no, no. Gregor one. That house of two. He completely mold him, dude. It was like, the ground and pound was like, it was just vicious, man. Crazy. Just beat on him. Like, you know, you know you truly.

beat the fight out of somebody because when they start going oh it's just business it's just business oh kabee was like unstoppable that means like yo shit don't don't kill me in here bro I was just business

I was just trying to fight you know like when someone starts doing that you know that you've took in their soul and he should know that they would take it personally obviously like that's very like he should but when they I just think there's no moral compass there

there's none there so when these guys don't have that moral compass they just say and do whatever so any indication on when your next fight's going to be obviously just happen but i don't know you know like i said at this time it's just you chill like i'm just like i'm just like i'm just like yeah take a number relax when i feel it i'll call you spend time we've got to give dana a bunch of halter head and just slip the contract at the dinner table and just but how does that work does he does dana pick up the phone and call you guys do you call him and say that hey i get something i'm interested in how does that work

kind of a joint ever you know um obviously in the ufc it's like oh that's why we have old rank consistent this guy's the number one contender that's the next guy to fight he's coming off the streak and in this like that's the next guy and we say okay let's do it and we fight but you know when we're doing something as as uh when we're about to do something as crazy as the canella fight then it's it's got to be okay we talk to their team they talk to our team and then it's you know then Dana has to sit down and see how he's going to promote it and make this the biggest thing ever you think canella would like take it like even though he's like saying ah no i could beat I don't see why he wouldn't he think about it why wouldn't what are the reason do you have

did a big bag not take it it wouldn't even diminish his career at all like how how does that diminish your career you think there's another UFC fighter he'd want to fight you'll see fighter no I think it's just um like if he did it maybe someone that poses less danger maybe like yeah if you feel like this guy poses no threat at all then it's like all right I'll just money but there's no bigger fight than the pound for pound and that's crazy we're closer in weight than everybody I fight at

170 he's about to fight a guy that fights at 195 he's already booked his next fight already yeah yeah next fight it's in May yeah boxers just boom boom boom because they they have a they signed a long-term deal with someone I think maybe showtime

or something like that so it's just like all right we're going to do this we're going to fight this guy we'll pick that guy we'll pick that guy that guy's less dangerous we'll pick him like what's bigger than us fighting right now and we're closer and wait

but I think he um honestly I was thinking by it today I think he does see the threat there and then he's like ah it's not worth it because you know I can't mess around go I lose to the MMA dude and I can't be that guy so I get it you know if you want to keep doing that then that's fine no harm

to him I think he's a great fighter you got any anxiety that you get from all this how fast life is going and how you know obviously your life has changed you know pretty quickly but is there any yes anxiety that you get from from all this shit so quick yes absolutely

I was um I was pretty outgoing I'm still I still am but it's now it's like I feel like I'm more of an intro when I'm home I don't like to leave my house because it's like think about it whenever you go somewhere I'm at a point now to where I'm always recognized anywhere

you know so I could be having dinner with my daughter and like I said I was going for that last fight I was gone for almost six weeks straight yeah I seen you wanted

I've never I've never missed that much time yeah you do FaceTime but it's not the same yeah it's not the same so now I come back I'm like all right take you

because I like to take my daughter in like little mini dates you know I like to like you know take her out so I want her to understand what a date is like go on a date and we're sitting there we're just having dinner

and the guys at the table next to us are just fucking staring at us the whole time damn you must be scared for her yeah she must be like looking at it yeah yeah they're like I mean she's used to it now because she's you know I let her grow up in it so she saw me every day going she saw the progression

and so but it's it's weird because it's like you're sitting there but they're just looking at you some of them are even just like pick the phone up yo Oh, chilling with the chat. Yo, chat. Yeah. We're, we're eating.

Yeah, the worst part I think about it is, is, I think you're just so self-aware all the time of everywhere you go. So you're so self-aware of every, now it disrupts your everyday thinking because you're, like, worrying about every move that you make, how you eat, how you look, at least that's, you know, not at your level, but at the same time, you know, you know how it is. We know how it is. It's like, you're just so self-aware of every movement you make and it just fucks with you. So that's why I get that, like, not wanting to go out of the, you know, out of the house. It does. Especially when you're with family hours, like someone like... Or like, you can't even like, you want to wake up.

Like if I'm like fucking hung over one day. And it's like 5.30. And I want to just roll out of bed, look like a piece of shit, run in the store. It's like you just, in your head, you're like, probably somebody's going to come up to me. You know, I don't have to engage. I'm at the fucking talk to it. When we did the... Yeah, because you can't be an asshole, you know?

You can't be an asshole. And it's, dude, some guys saw me at the grocery store. I was at the grocery store. And the guy's, like, walking through ais. And now he passes. I'm like looking at some of the... I think I was looking for, I think I was buying honey. And I'm looking at the honey aisle, honey and tea.

I'm buying tea. And he's like, he passes by. So, of course, I'm very self-aware of what's going on around me. Of course. So I see him pass that aisle. He keeps going. And I'm just, okay, looking at tea. Then he passes back this way.

Like, fuck. But he passes back, and he's looking, and he's looking at his phone. He's looking. I'm like, fuck. Okay. I just really don't want to talk. I was like in shorts. I had like slides on

I'm like I don't really want to talk but then he passes again I'm like ah shit You're like it's happening So I yeah so I'm like okay Let's walk that way Let's walk that way So I'm walking the opposite way

And he comes in the aisle And he's now he's walking and he's walking a little faster So I'm like ah shit And then he like stops me He's like yo Hey hey Has anyone ever told you you look like Usma

I was like who He's like who? He's like Camaro Ouzwan, bro, is that you, bro? Is that you? The best is they know, too. I was like, especially when they know, too. I'm like, fans do say that, though.

They're like, yo, you know who Salim is? Like, some guy said that to me. You're not so and so, are you? It's like, yeah, you know, yeah, you know I am. You're not, hey, bro, you're not, you're not, you're not, you're not Kamar Usman. You're not, like, am I? I'm not. I'm not.

I'm like, I don't know. I don't know who's that. Sometimes I just say, nah, I don't know what you're talking about. It's fun, and then I, like, say, yeah. But it's a blessing at the same time. It comes to the territory. It is. But then the dude's like, bro, you shop?

I know. That's the, well, they always ask that, they're like, what are you doing here? Yeah, what are you doing here, bro? Like, you'll be at the gym. It's like, what are you doing here? You shop? I'm fucking working out, man. I'm like, I have legs.

I'm fucking many cats. He's like, you shop, I'm like, yeah. Yeah, I was trying to get some honey and some tea. Right. He's like, bro, that's crazy. You do your own shopping, bro? Yeah. I was like, yeah, what?

Someone's supposed to do it for me? It's like, yeah, but that's, and I'm like, tomorrow's man, man. Yeah, like, he's like, bro, you want to take it? Can I take a picture? I'm like, yeah, sure. We take a picture. And then he's like, he's looking at the picture

and he's shaking his head, he's walking away. I'm like, the worst is when they, the worst is when you've got to realize is the trick is, I don't even if you figure this out yet, is when somebody's like, hey, can I get a picture, right? But the problem is when they give it the phone to somebody else to try and take it, and it adds an extra like 25, that is the word.

That is, you grab the phone and you do the quick. Have you, do you grab the phone and do the selfie. I have a few times, like, you know, with some ladies I would. But it's like, with a dude, I'm like, and then plus now we're in the corona era, we're in the, you know, COVID era. You can't just be grabbing people's phone and, you know, things like that. And then the camera person got to take a photo after. Wait, wait, let me take one real quick.

Yeah, yeah. Of course. But sometimes you'll be, yeah. And then it's, especially if they give the phone to someone to take the picture, now it causes a scene to wait, even if somebody doesn't even know, who you are they're like oh it's all about that time management the longer you let it go the more it just kind of happens but you know i do like that though it's like you want to take a picture yeah that's what i got you got and you become really good at you become really good at because like

they already have their camera thing out right you just press one button the bottom right flip boom and you're out what about the ones who don't though the ones that yeah those are the ones that don't it's just that you know you're like yeah you know it just depends on the mood you're just like some kids we meet can't even literally hold the camera but they're literally like doing this like I listen I'm not at that level but you know at the end of the day I get it though I mean like seeing somebody like you or

seeing somebody like us it's very like nerve racked it yeah I guess it just comes with it man it does look it I love it you love it we love it I love it everybody that buys a pay per view everybody that fucking comes to the fight all the tickets all the people that fucking repost and buy your fucking stupid shit whatever the fuck this shit is you appreciate it the end of the day once a while you know what is the same

does that absolutely mean you have to go out of your way as a human being to give them a piece of your energy I think that we live a luxurious enough lifestyle that it, for the most part I think that there's always being a good

a good trooper in that situation I mean when you're eating I asked Mike Tyson that when we did the podcast with them that's a good debate that's a good debate I want to know if you're with your daughter you can tell people to go fuck themselves right if you're with your daughter. Can you know? No. But like in a way of like, no, I'm eating.

Like, you know what I mean? Yeah, dude, fans will never, fans will never understand. It's always, it's always easier to just take the photo and move on. Yeah, they don't care. Because then they're like, wow, bro, you're not going to take a photo with me. Like, I fuck I watch all your shit. I'm looking at like every t-shirt sale. Like, that guy's not going to buy a t-shirt now.

Like, that's not going, you know. I think the best is when you just meet like a respectful fan too. Who doesn't buy a t-shirt, but you're still, you guys your job. You still do your job. Right. Majority of the business, but, you know. But it's like, does that mean, because they're fan and they watch you, does that mean that you have to go out of your way

to give your time and energy that you should be giving your family? There's 700 people, I know you mean, but if it's an isolated situation, like I can't ever see myself if it happens where I'm, like, you know, you're shopping at the instance and the guy walks by, there's nobody else around, it's not going to cause any fucking chaos. Yeah, of course, that's fine.

There's a time and a place. There's a way where it's going to spiral out of control with 7,000 other people, that it's a pain in the end. Which is the majority of them. Right. In certain places. Some situations, yeah.

Unless you're causing a scene, I feel like you just got to do it. Got to do it. Always got to do it. But it all, for me now. I know what you mean. It does it cause a lot of anxiety? But do you ever come to the point when there's like a 20 minute span where you go out and nobody notices you and you're like, fuck, am I becoming irrelevant?

No. No, that's nice. No, I actually, I actually like it. Yeah. Like, I would take all the money in the world with no fame. Hell yeah. Of course. Like, I would love to be that.

For sure. I want to own this nightclub. I want to own the strip club. For sure. Everybody's partying in. For sure. Yeah. I don't care.

I would like to have the money in the world, but you don't know who I am. I'm completely cool with that. But prior to all your success, was that the same mentality? Were you prior to your success? You wanted it when you're small. You wanted it when you're small. We all did. No, I wanted it.

I wanted to be recognized. to be recognized for, I wanted to be recognized for the work that I put in. Like, I worked hard to be the champion, so I want you to recognize me as the champion that did all this work to be the champion. But they asked for extras now. It's extra shit now. Bro, this dude's outside. They got 10 gloves.

Yo, sound on my gloves, bro. It's like, bro, come on, I got to go. And they're just selling them on eBay, too. Like, sign on my gut, bro, you're not going to sign these other two. You're going to sign eight of them. You're not going to sign the other two, bro. Come on, bro. It's like, bro, I got to go. Well, the good news is you are the champ, and it was an honor and a pleasure sitting

with you here tonight. You're wrapping it up? I think that if I get stuck in Vegas, I'm going to die. I'm going to fucking die tonight. I got to go back. I got to see something. You live in L.A.? What's with everyone just ending the pot?

I'm in the middle of nowhere in New Hampshire. I'm like, so enjoyable. There's a New Hampshire, L.A.? No, New Hampshire in. Oh, you live in New Hampshire. Oh, that's why he got scared. You're going to New Hampshire? I got a dinner.

You live in L.A. I live in Orange County. I like quiet ass fucking don't be around. Yeah, I'm the same way. I'm low-key. I don't like the fucking shit running around with fucking vlogs and cameras and fucking your life's the Truman show. But you're, I mean, you know, obviously you're doing well.

We're doing all right. Yeah, this show is great and we appreciate having you. You have a coming on here. Yeah, you guys are doing well. You guys get to go all the USC fans, VIP. That's the dream. Shit, I fight for the USC. I don't even.

get VIP like that. You know, you guys get the VIPs and everything. So yeah, life's good for you guys. Listen, it's amazing watching the lights. All right, let's go. Let's trade places. Come on. Trade places. Let's go. Trade places. You want to deal with my shit going on over here? You don't fucking want to. You know what? You know what? I learned this lesson

when I was young. My mom should say this to me. And I had to really think about this. And she used to tell me all the time if we all through our problems in a pile, I guarantee you would take your shit back and run.

So let that sit in for a little bit. Think about it. I am. I'm thinking that pile. I don't know. What, you're saying, like be grateful for what we have?

Yeah, because. Yeah, for sure. If you, if we all threw our problems in the pile, I guarantee you would take your shit back and run. What was it? I need it right there now.

If we, if we all, if we all threw our problems in a pile, if God came down and said, yay. So he's going to be busts these out for chicks later. That's got to be our Instagram and captioning.

to this episode, eh? I got a girl. If you all threw our problems in a pile, I guarantee you you would take yours and run. Sleem's getting that tatted tomorrow? Yeah, exactly. He's going to be pulling out to every chick at the bar, whatever.

He's going to be using that fucking line. Yeah, think about that, man. There's people right now that are battling cancer to stage four. Of course, you know, doing chemo every day. 100%. You know, there's people who have no food. Like, there's no way to eat. You wake up the next day and they're just like,

you're just up. There's no food. There's nothing. It is fucked how we just bitched about getting recognized when people can't even have food. Yeah, it's crazy. When you put it in perspective like that, it's crazy. You just got to be thankful for the station that you're in in life.

You know, I could have been that. You know, another life I was that probably. Like, you never know. I am very good. Gotta be. If we, God said, throw your shit in the paw right now, you know, then I'm like, oh, never mind. I'm going to take my shit back.

I was complaining last week. I'm good. I'm good. I'm taking my shit back. Uh-huh. You know, so. Like your biggest problem, Bob, is that we're going to stay the night in Vegas and have a great night.

I can't stay that guy. I'm watching Harry Potter with the girl. People are dying, bro. He's like, no, I got to get back for Harry Potter. I got to go. It's Harry's fucking Potter night. All right. So, I mean, I think we've had a great talk all this here.

It's amazing. We're all, are we good here? I think so. The champ is great having you. You're the fucking man. We appreciate it. This is crazy. Thank you guys.

Best party in the world. And we got to make that Canello fight happen, man. Yes, we do. Maybe I just have to just walk up to him getting his ear and just, uh. honestly that would probably kick it up just prank you guys do a joint

prank collab on canello Sleam why don't you find Canello and get him I would have to have Kamara next to me because it wouldn't look like I say you pull up on him and you do you do your thing in his ear and then he turns around and say bro what the fuck is that bro

and then I step out like I step out like yo he's with me oh that's the fucking way to do it The manager loves it. The guy loves you, the right-hand man. Bob's going to want to cut of the fight now, eh? I'm like, he's with me. What's up?

You want to do something? You know, he'll probably be like, no, I don't want no problem. No problem with you. So no problem. So, I got, no problem. Okay, it's no problem. Okay. You're okay? I'm good.

I'm good at impersonations. Attention, folks. We are boarding the plane. Final boarding. All right, man. All right, ma'am. All right, ma'amins the men. Thank you.

Thank you.