FULL SEND PODCAST - Lil Durk x Nelk Boys | Ep. 35

Episode Date: March 24, 2022

Lil Durk on Competition with Lil Baby, His Relationship & Morgan Wallen Backlash  Presented by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer. Find Happy Dad near you http://happydad.com/find (21+ only). Video is available on http://youtube.com/fullsendpodcast/videos. Follow Nelk Boys on Instagram http://instagram.com/nelkboys. Part of the Shots Podcast Network (shots.com). You can listen to the audio version of this podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & anywhere you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We want out! We want out! We want out! We want out! All right, full send podcast. First episode back on YouTube. We took a little break off YouTube because we did Alex Jones, and Bob took a seat out. We don't want to talk about that. No, no, no. I mean, obviously a very controversial episode, you know. We went Trump to Alex Jones. He was a pussy. That's what it was. It is what it is. But we're waiting on who...

But this is the first episode on YouTube back. We got a little dirk. Which is amazing. I'm a massive fan of Lil Durk who is walking in the building right now as we speak. What's good, what's good? How are you doing? How you doing? See you. You good?

Pleasure to meet you, sir. How you doing? Good to see you. Right here. Are you cool there? And here we are. And here we are. Finally. What's up, man? What are you got right now? Top 10 songs on Apple? The boys just told us, but I just double-checked.

Hey, which one's on there? on Apple Hey Cole I just pulled it up Make sure all that mic's good Number one Number two Number three four five

Skip six Seven eight nine Eleven It's like the whole fucking It's the whole It's the whole How does that feel How does that feel?

Crazy. Feels good Yeah it's like We're just getting like What we deserve for real Like I'm saying What's good Where did your music

Inspiration come from When you first stuff We're getting right to it Boom We have an absolute squad here Oh my God Do we have a camera we can pan to? Is this the normal entourage that you travel with?

Oh, yes. Because a lot of rappers, I can't, like, pull it off, but you guys usually have, like, a big entourage with you. No, it's just, like, the close one. It's supposed to have 25 people on the boat. I hope we don't sink right now, right? Yeah, right? I bet not a swim.

I don't know how to swim. I'm holding on him, man. You're like he not a swim from here to there. We appreciate you doing this, though. We're supposed to have Gary V on the podcast, but it was going to be a roundtable episode us, Derek, Gary. But I guess he's trying to be a family man or something.

I mean, yeah, I just got a call from Gary, and I was going to give him shit. Like, I FaceTime and was going to fuck with him, and then he panned to his kids, so I had to lay off. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But Gary's a great dude, and he's obviously big in the NFT space and what you guys are. So what, you're making some moves in the NFT space? Yeah, we're rolling. Yeah, we just rock with him. Okay, yeah, yeah.

No, yeah, I think it's good for me. And I'm saying the people around. It's crazy because I ain't never really understand. you're not alone yeah so they were trying to break it down to me I'm like wait what then I had went and got the ape I said with um Soto for a man he broke it down to me then we came up with this whole idea right here and it was just like perfect so what's the next-gen shit can you like explain it to us um it's like it's a NFT shoe it's like fashion she's I mean how everybody else doing um art everybody else doing the

apes everything I just think We put, including fashion the tour, it's going to take it to a whole other level. I'm saying? We, like, big in the fashion world, too. It's like a digital sneaker thing? We're on the yacht today. Your team was explaining it to us. So what, it's like, it's like digital sneakers?

Yeah, it's digital sneakers, but I got a pair that's getting made that's going to be, like, realistic, so I'm going to be, like, the only one with them. So, you know what I'm saying? So it's going to be, like, for the world. Then we want to take it to another level with, like, bringing them to life. What made you want to get into then T-space? Like I say, it was just doing something different. And at first I really didn't believe in it.

I was really looking at it, like, it's some BS. Yeah. Then when he started breaking it down to me, it was like, what can we do that everybody else ain't do? And I was thinking, like, the fashion world and shoe. You got fashion going, by the way, the blue on blue? Yeah, I ain't going to lie. See, that's what make it, like, fun.

I couldn't get away with it. Can you get away with all blue? No, I'm just not all blue. I mean, I can get away with all blue, but I can't get away with whatever the hell is on your neck right now. Jerry. How much money is on your neck right now? That looks heaven.

To be honey. Yeah. No, it's over millions. But, yeah, it just, I don't really. I have to take them off a look at them, called the jeweler. Because I got, I got pieces I just brought, and I got pieces that I had for like a year, two years.

So I ain't going to really remember. It's over a million. And now that I'm looking, that's like, that's like six of them, right? Yeah. Six of them, brother. What happened on the million dollars with the game? You brought a million dollars in cash?

Yeah. To the podcast? Yeah, I thought, like I say, I always try to be different. So I was just thinking, like, it was a million other artists, um, athletes on a million dollars worth a game. So I was just really like, what can I do to sell myself different from everybody else? What can attract more views? Right.

And I'm saying. And I've been sitting on it for like six months. They've been one to do it. And I just thought like I want to bring a million dollars. How does one, because I could never do it, obviously. How does one get like a million dollars and you just go to the bank and just say, I'm a little dirk, I need a million dollars? Yeah.

Like, if you, if you, if you, if you somebody with some money, it's like, your personal bank will hook you up and they already know what it is. She got to order your money before, you know? Is that what's your favorite song on the album? Um, I got a few. But right now, I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say the intro. What was it like doing Broadway girls? That song Slaps. Yeah, that was crazy.

But how did that come about? Because that's like a very interesting thing, too. Like the whole story behind that? Yeah, shout out Morgan Wylan. Morgan Wallen's fine. Very, very good friend of the podcast. He's yet to show up just so you know. Morgan, if you're listening, we're still waiting.

But go ahead. I'm going to call him, as a matter of fact. But now, so the thing behind that was last year I had dropped my album. It was called The Voice. In my eyes, I'm like, anybody else dropping. We're going number one. I'm selling Brandon early. Then they called, like, you number two.

So I'm like, who's number one? He dropped the same day I dropped. And he was number one for 10 weeks. Really? Yeah. So I called him like, I'm at DM, I'm like, man, we got to do something, just lock it in. And we were chopping it up. He was telling me, like, he got the little situation going on.

He was like, when it's the right time. And I just reached back out to him, like, let's just do it. I'm saying, I hung out with him. I just felt a vibe and felt a genuine love from him. Like, no, he just made a mistake. He's not a racist, no what I'm saying? Yeah, he did have that little incident where he, where did he, did he drop the end bomb? Yeah.

Did that ever make you feel some type of way after you've seen that video or from him? She's like he kind of told me already before I even seen the video When I was telling him like We just got a link and vibe He was like he had a little problem going on And he told me And I was just ask him like shit

How you really feel? Like do you really feel like that? I'm like you just tell me the truth And he really just broke it down to me Like drunk mistake Everybody made mistakes Then when I went to go hang out with him It was like

I was different Yeah I felt the love from Like the vibe from And I was just telling him Like the world gonna Make you seem like somebody you ain't Anyway Were you cautious to like

collab with him after that because that's honestly like it's like kind of like courageous on your part to like take that step because he was like that was like a very public thing. Yeah. Were you worried at all about getting backlash from like the community? I don't know. I just feel like I'm different. It's like how I came up, how I hold myself.

You know who you are. Yeah, like how I approach people would just like I'm standing 10 tones on all man and if I feel he was racist I would never did anyway. Which is not a lot. Morgan's one of the greatest dudes yeah yeah so talented too he won the guy and i feel like he like and you know in this whole like cancel culture world and all that we live in it's like i think some people some people deserve time in a sense some people deserve to get canceled like if you're doing some real bullshit then

that's different right i'm saying i feel that i feel like he wasn't doing no bullshit but how does that process work though when like a hip-hop artist like yourself joins him with a country music star like how did broadway girls didn't he like tweet or some shit didn't he say like you i have this beat And you, like, replied to him or some shit? Yeah, so when we locked back in, we were like, man, we got to find a way to do something. And I was just telling him, like, whatever we do, we just got to make sure it's big. Like, I'm saying, look like, let's crush it. Then he had put the song on his page.

And I hit him, like, I need that one. So I just read, like, went in on the hook. We did, like, I put my sauce to it. And we did it. So when I'm going to tell everybody, like, man, I got a song, what are we fin to do this? Everybody was against it. They're like, hell no, they're going to cancel you. They're going to woo.

And I was like, man, I'm going to take my chances with it. I'm like, long as I know, I rock with him, he ain't no races. Like, I'm going to do what I want to do. You know what I'm saying? That song slaps. That's your hardest for great. Congratulations, by the way. Yeah, yeah.

Appreciate it. How do you decide that? Like, when people are in your ear, like, how many people do you have in your ear that you kind of listen to and shit? And how much is of it is, like, just your decision with, like, creative shit. I listen to my whole team, though. Like, I ain't the one that be like, man, fuck what y'all talking about. It's just, like, I just break down to him. I just break it down to him.

Like, this hat could be, this is what I believe in, and this hat only can end up, you know what I'm saying? And they just believe in me every time I made a decision like that. What's like your, like, day-to-day team like here? Like, how many people and, like, what are their roles? It's really, um... It's pretty deep, Kyle. That's deep as far.

Yeah, no, it's really, it's really everybody, like, cameraman management. You know, we got the new GTA server coming out, so... Some of the guys who know you've been in Miami, like, I do it like that. Like, you ain't ever been in Miami. You can go this trip. You end up in the Cali, you go next trip. So I got entourage, cameraman, management, and my brother's with me for real.

Is Miami your favorite spot? It's one of my favorite spot. Yeah. Do you do the strip clubs? I used to. What happened? It's like the shit at old. I want some money, man.

I don't want to be in there every fucking weekend. Have you ever, like, throwing money in the air in the strip club before? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. How much? No, I just don't get to experience these things like he does, so, like, why not just, I just want to know the answer? Like, how much can be thrown in the air at one time?

So what did you want to talk about? Well, I want to tell you about Wagovi. Wagovi? Yeah, Wagovi. What about it? On second thought, I might not be the right person to tell you. Oh, you're not? No, just ask your doctor.

About Wagovi. Yeah, ask for it by name. Okay. So why did you bring me to the circus? Oh, I'm really into lion tamers. You know, with the chair and everything. Ask your doctor for Wagoe by name. Visit wagoe.combe.com for savings.

Exclusions may apply. You said how much at once or how much period at the club? Like, how much have you taken in one handful and just been like, fuck this shit, whatever you do and throw it? I'm a little dirty. I thought like $1,000, $1,000 bands. $1,000 bands? Yeah.

And where does it go? It goes in the air. Yeah, because it'd be like, they're like to dance and everybody. It falls on the floor and it lands. Are they like people trying to pick it up? No, just the strippers. What happens if you try to pick it up? Like, if you're new.

It'd be like the strippers, then the security would be right there with them. They're helping don't get the money. Don't you get in trouble if you try to take it? Yeah. Yeah, you get in trouble. Bob would be the type to pick up bills. I'd be going around there like this. I'd be falling a little dirt around the fucking club the whole time, picking it up.

Well, with all your success, how did you, like, transition from, like, where you came from to, like, corporate, like, music business and stuff like that? It must have been, like, a big change in a way. Yeah. I was a little while before, and I'm saying, I ain't really understand life. I ain't really understand. They counseling shows, like, missing out on money. I never understood that. I just living for the moment where it was like,

we gangsters, this is what it is. Everybody knows what's up. But then down the line, it's like, you got changed this shit for real. Like, I got kids. I got seven kids. You have seven kids? I got seven.

So it's like I really just have to lock in and really just be big dog, you know what I'm saying? Because that shit only left for so long. And you grew up in Chicago? Yeah, I'm from Chicago. Yeah. Is Chicago still as dangerous as they say it is?

Yeah, Chicago pretty bad. Yeah, it's still lovely, though. Like, it's just, it's like every city. Like, you'll come out here and be like, man, I want to move to Miami, but you still got the trenches in Miami that everybody don't go to. You know what I mean? Yeah.

So it's like, outside everybody, it's like, when you mention Miami, it's like the water, partying, but it really gets deeper than that, you know what I'm man. Do you ever go back to, like, your city? Do you ever feel like cautious in a way? Because I know, like, if you grow up in a certain city, you blow up, obviously, right? You're a big mogul and everything like that, right?

Is it the main camera? No. Okay. There will be people that are like kind of jealous in a way. Do you ever like, are you ever cautious of that going back to like where you're from? Growing up in Chicago already made me like that though. Like before the violence was super what it was. It was just like, it's like city of the games.

And then it's like I know a lot of people who like shysty, Grammy. I know people who got real love, Gene with love. So it's like I learned to growing up. And I'm always cautious everywhere I go. Like the whole real change. It's not even just Chicago. Was he your favorite guy to work with, Pushishti? Yeah, he won't of him.

Yeah, he won't. What's his situation right now? Pushishti, he's in jail right now? Yeah, yeah. For him, I don't really know, and I'm saying, I wouldn't even speak on it, but I just, I definitely hope he'd get out of jail, and I'm saying, he's a good guy. Yeah. Because it's crazy with all the rap stuff when you see when you turn on the news and all this stuff, all these young guys, young Dolph, all these rappers, they're getting killed, they're getting shot and whatever. Being at your level that you're at right now, are you ever afraid?

did any of that shit could ever happen to you it got me anybody right i'm saying with you a rap or you never know yeah it just it just depending on how you move how you carry yourself like you say you're in a strip club every week something bound to happen because they're 30 seen you throwing money yeah right i'm saying yeah this all it's all just bad beef is that what it is that how no it just the world changed it's like everybody want to name everybody won't clout it's like all the girls want to expose the guys the guys want to treat the girl that must be tough man with women yeah yeah you're like publicly like in a relationship too right sure definitely which is good good to have you need a girl by your side right that's kind of unique in the rap game

i'm engaged she really helped me though honestly how long you guys been like together oh it's 2017 oh wow yeah but in 2017 when i met it was like i can not explain it was like how we are right now but we all be in one career but we're looking at it like we're just chilling on some gang shit but but then you really look at it's like damn we ain't got no beds for real damn we ain't even no potter cook you know what I'm saying we ain't got no kind out there's nothing to do what what value has she like my bad no I'll say so when she came along that's what made me change it when she was like man I don't want to be around a thousand guys mm-hmm like I don't feel comfortable

I don't even how to sit so it's really like she really just like put me on game and really made me like boss up for real does she understand the business that you're in that at some point and because like for my situation I'm not on little dirks level that's for sure stop but uh you know my girl gets jealous like if i'm partying on a boat like i was today and there's girls dancing around we're fucking screwed man drinking drinking henny and all that stuff i mean you're shooting music videos with girls everywhere probably whatever does she ever like get worried about your lifestyle and that it may affect your relationship see i was like it's like the other way around i'm the one that's

stuck okay okay oh you worry yeah like no hell no I ain't say I don't worry. It just be like, I'll be in my head. I'll be in my head like, I don't want to lose the one who got me focused, you see what I'm saying? Yeah. Because she can make me unfocused out here like, just be like, fuck it, I'm just in a wrong while. Wow. To avoid all that, I ain't hopping on no boat with no thousand girls.

Right. You know what I'm saying? Selim, we phacetime Derek the other day. You said you had the same view as on women as him. Oh, no, no, no. Because my friend Jay, he knows you got a girl and stuff like that. And he kind of put that same perspective in my situation. and how you have girls in your music videos and stuff.

No, videos, video is really banished. Like, if I know this video shoot, it can be 15 girls right here and they dance and it'd be cool. But the 15 girls right here and I'm grabbing their asses. There's a problem. There's a problem, yeah. It's about respect, I'm saying. You can do your job, but it's like if you want your girl doing podcasts

and rubbing and hugging all the guy? No, no, I don't. No, I don't. No, I don't. So you've got to think about it. Not at all. Yeah, I don't want that. Where did you happen?

Where did you meet her at? Chicago Chicago that's amazing back to back to real quickly the NFT stuff too you is Ben Ben here what's been popping in Ben's got to pop in from a minute we're gonna bring Ben and shut out being because I am actually shit big Ben I am fascinated by the NFT stuff I really am so who's Ben in relation to you so we I help put the deal together and come up with some of the creativity behind it that the Dirk just stamped on on everything so like James physical and the virtual sneaker you know in both, which you just love.

Ben looks like he created fucking Facebook over here. Being smart as hell, though, I ain't gonna lie. He FaceTime me with a whole bunch of different designs and we just went through it, like, just what it is. Right, right, right, right. So the next gen, you're the next gen NFT? Yeah, we're the team. That's us.

So you can probably speak a little bit more on that. Yeah, for sure. So what's good? What's the play? So the play is to create a sneaker that, you know, for Dirk. right to create a sneaker that is physical that you can wear in reality but also you can wear in video games which dirk like loves gta and like he was saying before about the server and like the point is to put these sneakers you know to have a pair that you can rock in reality and have a pair you can rock when you're playing games when are you guys going to launch it so the plan is pretty soon yeah

we're working on it every day like we don't got no official official day so it's pretty much like an nfts sneaker company yeah oh yeah it's fire yeah so if you're in a virtual world and you go pair of stole you go get my shit in there like so i don't mean you get to wear the sneakers i'm gonna have a pair you'll have a pair i'm have a real word okay yeah so it's so complicated all this metaverse and all this nfts stuff it's yeah well i i want to learn it though because it's like that's like the new investment like that's the new wave like it's just something you just got to adapt to right now you will look at it like man hell no well as the world changed and you don't want to be late on it mm-hmm ain't anything garrily it's so early too right

So you don't got to rush into anything. That's what I learned, too. Yeah. So early into everything. People are going to say what they want to say to, but it's like such an early thing. Had Deep you win it. I mean, we did our full send medicard shit. So that's like we have our whole world around full send.

That's our brand, right? So we got our website that we do, that's like our exclusive content. So they get free access to that. That's like the shit we can't put on YouTube. Like, you know, we saw our Trump shit just got. deleted so we have our own website that like it's all the shit that we can't post on YouTube so they get

free shit to that they get first access to merch drops so y'all repost the interview on the site yeah that shit broke the net broke the net crazy crazy more about music stuff too though do you write all your own shit um I used to freestyle

a lot and um and as I started getting bigger I went back to writing so I write everything in my own Where do you feel your most creative in, like, what element? Like, where are you when you're most creative? When I go through stuff. When you go through stuff.

Yeah, so, like, when I go through, like, life experience, I'm going to give you an example where it's not real. That's what we do in this podcast, Dirk. We just, like, if we have to piss, we've got to them pissed. Oh, yeah, nah, nah, no. Don't take that as a rude thing. Like, we've done it, like, you know, a lot, so we're good. Yeah, no, it's just an example.

So just if I don't, like I told you, I got seven kids, so Jessupon talked to him in four days. What was that? Just I'll tell you, I got seven kids, so just say if I don't talk to them in four days, and I'd be calling. Yeah.

I was like, I go to studio and be like, you get it off my chest instead of going outside and doing some dumb-ass shit. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, yeah. So that's like my, my therapy, for real. You say, in your songs all the time,

you say, man what? Yeah. I can't sound as cool as you when I say it, but what does man what? Where did that come from? It just, I live, I came on with. No, so I tried it in one song, and everybody was just like, man, that's the hardest I live.

So I just kept going with it. Man, what? I'm like, man, what? What was your favorite song you've ever done that you're most proud of? It got to be the Drake song. It's got to be the Drake song. Yeah, because that was like the one that took it to another level. And what was it like working with Drake in the studio?

Shit. Was it different? Did you feel like some side? I was off until you right now. I had to catch my breath. No, because it was like, we already know what we were doing. We already know we was going with it, like in the music room. And when he had DM me, like,

It was a DM? Yeah, I was saying we already had that relationship where it was like, I see you in person or if I DM you, that's what it is, you know what I'm saying? Right, right. So when he DM me, like, send me your number, I got one for you. So I'm like, all, all, cool.

But I'd be knowing how the process of you go. So when he DM me, sent his number, he FaceTime me, he played the song. He was like, I ain't gonna lie. He's like, I need it tonight. Because, you know, it was the beginning of the pandemic. It was the beginning of the pandemic. So it was like, the studio closing early.

He on the time schedule. He's like, I need it back right now. I did some quick-ass shit. I left the studio, and he called me back. Like, man, it's shit hard. He, like, put eight more bars on it. He's like, I'm going to drop an ASAP. And I was telling him, like, shit, the studio closed because the pandemic.

Wait, so you did it? And then he said, add more? Yeah. I'm like, man. You sent it back? And he said add more? Yeah, he's like, this shit hard as hell. He's like, ask some more bars.

I'm like, shit, because the pandemic, the studio closed, like. The COVID, the hell of it is. Right, right. And that was, like, the best eight bars I did ever in my life. Who is someone you've worked with that you've been like, man, I could really connect with this guy and I could, like, do music with this guy forever? Like, you just have a musical connection with this person. Well, you're a little baby did a whole album, right?

Yeah, it's definitely one of them, a baby one of them. But it's like, everybody I work with, though. Like, it ain't even You're doing a lot of shit with Nav really, didn't you? Yeah, shout out Nav. Like him. Like, cash and all of them. Like, I rock with them.

It's not money with them. You know what I'm saying? Mm-hmm. So everybody I do songs with it. Was Nav fucking with you when you were, like, way smaller? Yeah. I'm from Toronto, too, so Mississauga, but yeah. I was in the studio with Nav when we did the song.

And he was like, what the fuck you did that shit in five minutes? What was the early songs you did with Nav? Yeah, timepiece of one of them. And me, him and baby them did one, too. That was one of them. big ones. That's dope. What was the point where you were, did you grow up from nothing? Did you come from nothing?

For sure. You had no money. Nothing. No, you know, a lot of people say that for everybody to look at them differently and really be like man, he really... Came from nothing. Yeah, but when you come from nothing, a lot of them people who say that don't really be having a story behind it. You know what I mean? I came from nothing. So how you come from nothing? I only had shit to eat. That's the basics.

Yeah. So you really got to dab and to it like man this i came from nothing like having to drop out of school because of the violence like it was like oh that was your situation a definition of nothing yeah oh wow so what was the pivotal point then when uh when i guess you could say the start of all your success what was the point where you're like man i got some momentum going i think i have a shot at being what you are lay um i always felt like that know what i'm saying and just dropping music even before it got big when i put on youtube it was like back then 10 000 was a lot of views back then when getting like 10,000 views and they were like naming us in the top 20 in Chicago I knew I had a chance

were you out there like handing out CDs in New York like the uh you see a lot of yeah we did all that we did CDs we did flyers we did open mic did everything trying to have a relationship with the DJs when they were just walking off on us like did you start like performing in certain areas where you were from like trying to gain that notoriety more and more yeah but like the flyers and the CDs and trying to talk to the DJs. That helped a lot. Yeah, that's like the same as performing. Mm-hmm.

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afraid of that happening like where a label came to you where it's like man this is really good but i don't really have as much control as i want like were you ever afraid where were you ever afraid of my first my first situation was death jam um and it was like that where it was like man try to be pop, try to be R&B, so I'm doing all this different shit, and it's really, like, fucking me up. Like, it's really holding me back, because it's like, I'm thinking it's working, and the label wants it to work. But the streets and the, and the internet, they're like, man,

I want to hit that old shit you used to do. So when I just locked in with Todd, and he was like, you could do what you want to do, it's really just like, let me get back to being me, like, being myself, and stop trying to please the label. You ever friends with Kanye? You ever be friends with Kanye? You ever be friends with Kanye at all or no? No, yeah, we're cool.

You cool? What do you think going, I mean, you see Kanye every day right now. He's going nuts with his situation on the internet. Yeah, you got banned off Instagram for like 24 hours. Yeah, I heard of Instagram and all that stuff. I heard of that work, because I've never heard of Instagram banning someone for 24 hours. I've been down that road. Was that just like a specific thing?

Not for 24 hours, though. No, like, they made it public. Like, they're like, he's banned for 24 hours. I don't know. Maybe it's a play where he's building his own social platform. Maybe it's all, I don't know. It was like harassment or something like that, Pete Davidson. No, but I'm saying like they've never just banned someone for 24 hours.

Like in like publicly stated it Have you ever gotten any Instagram strikes? No No strikes Your IG's popping though Yeah see I do the right shoe with my IG Like your IG like you get like a million plus Yeah

How much does social media you think play like a part in like rap And like music these days? Social media is the biggest shit ever Like It's the biggest shit Because you can really like Show people how you dress You can show people how you talk

How you speak You can show people how you like cars you can really show off who you is on them I feel like that's almost like I don't want to say as important as music but it kind of yeah marketing yourself yeah yeah like you gotta be smart

this is where everybody goes now if you drop a song right now you gotta promote it well on social media that's what I'm saying so it's important do you like what do you do for your IG do you just like are you like trying to keep up with it and shit like what do you

not really like I don't let the internet control me like I don't let people would just be like, man, you ain't been on there four days. Like, shit, so. Yeah. You know what I'm saying? Do you get pissed when you don't, when you don't hit a milly likes? Hell no.

A lot of people be pissed, but not. Right, Salima, but once you get that millie, it wants to be like, shit. Yeah, once you hit a million likes? Yeah, it ain't allowed. It feels good, though. You break 100K yet or no? No, I'm still around, $15,000. Yeah.

It's all right, one day. Just keep working hard, putting the hard work and just hopefully it'll have it one day. Yeah. Do you control all your DMs? Yeah. All right, cool. Because I hit you up the other day. I was like, yeah, man, hey, it was good.

We're coming on a full cent pocket. I didn't know it was you. All right, cool. So I want to make sure it wasn't like somebody else. A lot of people have, like, other people working. I don't let anybody run my, if they do with DILA on one of my managers. Do people, like, a lot of people slide in, slide in DMs? Like, what?

Like, do they, like, do they, like, what am I getting laughed at? I'm just curious, like, it's like sometimes. If you mean, like, artists, what you mean like? Well, I mean, yeah, what are your DMs? Like my DMs My DMs are a lot of times Like yo you're a fucking pussy Bob You're like a bitch

You're stuck in the podcast All that stuff Like truthfully Do you ever like trolled or no Yeah yeah yeah What do they troll a little dirk about though A lot of shit They come up with they on here

When was the last time you ever responded To like a hate comment Or like Someone just talking shit I dropped the song called Uh huh That's when I responded to it That was like a troll back

Yeah So you didn't troll Played up. Like, you got, you got to think about it, right? And just for everybody who really be getting mad at that shit, like, if you're in real life, just, like, real any shit, it's like, I'm going to get mad at a fake page. Somebody will see a comment, like, oh, we're going to kill you tomorrow.

And somebody's sending to you, like, man, somebody's going to kill you tomorrow. But if you go to the page, it's like, zero likes, zero pitches. It's like, so you really can't let that dictate you or make you mad. You can't say, fuck y'all. Y'all really pissed me off. I'm going to leave my, none of that. I, like, going to see him. We asked Kodak this when we did him on the pod.

Who's your number one in the rap game right now besides you? I don't really, I don't got no more, like, who I just listened to all the day. It's like I got a few artists and listening to a few artists, will he be keeping me on my toes too? Who's like three people that are running the game with you? Got Baby. I'm a name my three, not the three who the real I already know. Yeah.

So, baby. I'm gonna say Kodak. This is not including like the thugs and the futures now. And I'm gonna say 21 Savage. Does that ever like subconsciously make you like kind of like sound like those rappers if you listen to them sometimes? You know what I mean?

Like in the studio? Like just subconsciously, not intentionally. You know what I mean? You probably do make a song that sound like one of them. They probably make a song sound like me. That's part of music. But if you stamp yourself so much in the music real, they ain't gonna be like,

Oh, he's trying to be like, oh, they call the vibe. That's cool. Is there any competition with, like, you and Little Baby? Competition is what? Just, like, friendly competition or anything like that? No, hell no. It's just like, he's different, though. Like, he's a real one.

Like, even when I had the million dollars, and I'm going to take it to the trenches. He was like, huh, take this million too? Like, he tried to give me his million dollars in cash to take it with me. So I got two million. I'm like, it's a million dollar worth a game. But it's like, who's going to do that? How did you guys first link?

I met him in the studio with Thug before he was rapping. Before he was rapping? Oh my God. So he always came to the studio with him. Yeah, I heard he never really wanted to rap, huh? Yeah, I don't know. It's just like, every time I sent him. It's like, we caught a vibe in there.

So you met him before he was even rapping. Yeah, but he always had the energy, though, because I'm like, every time he's popping in the studio. Parking full of money. Got the girls with him. I'm like, damn, this is a little nigga popping. Like, they really love him. And I really looked at him.

So when he started rapping, I was already in tune. Who did the Migo spit Emma I don't know I can't say I think it was stuck Oh really? I don't know I don't know I don't give me the line as one

Do you like Do you like when you drive down the road In Miami and you're driving your car Do you like blast your own rap music And have your window up And then like if somebody pulls up next to you Do you like roll it down It's me

I'm around with the windows down anyway I'm just fantasizing On what I would do if I was you Yeah so you're gonna hear it anyway Bob really wants to do that That's basically him saying No, I don't think I pulled off. I don't think I really pulled off.

But do you bump your own shit? Yeah. I bump because I'm trying to get to another level where it's like people in our range or in our era to be able to do a show and rap without the lyrics. Yeah, the lyrics are interesting too because I'm reading this because I'm trying to dissect. You had a lyric that said,

I ain't going to cap, you're going to smell the perks and lean when I fart. What does that mean? It was really just like being sarcastic But it was like Sips so much lean and take so many perks It's like your body flood It would droves

And it's like as I fart you It would smell it type shit It was like cool It all makes sense now If you really do that You'll have to go to the hospital How does it feel being on like lean and stuff When you do take it?

I stop sipping lean for real Because it's slower it on my day Is it kind of like being high and stuff Yeah but it gets you like drowsy tired It gets you aggravated You'd be mad And when I used to sibling, it was like, um, matter of fact, for instance, like, did he want to do some shit with me where it was like, we can do this, we can do this?

And I'm like, come on. But then I was sipping lean, I'm missing phone calls. And I'm like, I felt like a little-ass boy, like I wasn't ready for this shit. Yeah, so I just stopped sipping lane for real. Do you have any like vices? Do you like to gamble or anything like that? I like play spades. What is Spades?

Spades a car game. Spades is a car game. You can gamble on Spades. Yeah. Have you had a couple of big games that you played in? Yeah, like Spades ain't at the casino and none of that. It's just like house parties and shit like that. Yeah.

You never heard of Spades? Nah. Never heard of it? Nah. No gamble. Yeah. Very interested in playing it though at some point. It's real strategic.

What else besides music like do you do like that takes your mind off like certain things? I like playing basketball. Basketball, really? Yeah. I hoop too. Yeah, I like, um, I'll bust your, that. I don't know about that I like training too though

like on boxing and shit I'm just thinking out a lot I'm thinking a lot because it is I want to go back to Kanye though because I want your your opinion on it

is he fucking is this guy losing his mind I don't know and I'm not trying to bait you into saying I'm actually just asking a conversation I'm always speak my mind I don't know how Pete I don't know how Pete pulled him though

yeah like he took a photo By the way fuck Pete for doing that shit Like by the way Kanye's obviously I got vocal about it I got pissed because I've been in this never get vocal too I never get vocal I usually stay quiet

he's like bit of the when Pete's I saw that Pete sent the message like I'm like you know they were talking shit and then Pete's like well I'm in bed with your wife that's what I was like all right this motherfucker but Kanye's been going at him yeah but has he been hitting him like that that's a low blow I don't know I don't really like

Pete Davidson but I don't know I think I'm team Kanye obviously I gotta go with I gotta go with I gotta go with Kanye I do I gotta go with Kanye I know this really interest you Derek this topic but you got Kanye's back or Pete man I don't know

man listen I got my own shit I got like Switzerland I got my own shit going though yeah I'm picking team trenches

team trenches team trenches you at Kanye is smart as hell though like yeah Pete's not that smart nah

you've ever worked you have worked with Kanye or no yeah I got like some shit coming up with Kanye like

now we're getting somewhere yeah we're getting somewhere he text me he texts me like Man, it's do a whole album together. Does he text you in all caps?

I'm like, yeah, we could do it once he's in the studio. What do you, like, say I want to, like, hypothetically if I wanted to be a rapper, and I want to, like, fucking be like, you know, you know what, fuck it, I want to rap. But I want you to do a feature on my album. Like, how much would I have to pay you? What do you charge for a feature? If I don't know you? Just based on our situation right now, like, if I wanted to do it.

I ain't going to lie. 350. I'm actually thinking about I got receipts. $350 for a feature? I got receipts. For what? How long you're saying?

I got a receipt. That's the thing about it. You charge $350 for a feature? $350,000? No, listen. You got to have receipts. Because somebody can come up here just a lie to boost their sales

or we got receipts. Who's paid $3.50 for a feature? It's out of my price range. I don't know if I could do that, though. No, no, no. Yeah, do that. But I got receipts, though. Like, when you come out, I can tell you,

like uh how does that go about like getting features i always wonder that so like they'll just contact you and be like yeah they'll contact they're contact management but i don't really do you ever do features for free though yeah see i mean like if i like you or like i like so it's either free or 350 racks yeah there's i don't know you from a can of paint and the label want to it's why they want to spend some money so it's not really the artists even though it's they budget i'm gonna fuck the label up bad

Does anyone, like, ever try to be, like, try to finesse the free feature out of you? Like, and be like, yo, like, they're trying to, like, elude to like, like, I do this, I do that. No, like, they're trying to pretend like, yo, we're kind of tight, like, free feature or not. Like, I seen you at the club, like, two years ago, he was vibing. You know what I mean? Like, that type of shit, you know what I really just go off me, like. Like, you've never had to be like, nah, like, it's $3.50. No, I'm going to tell you right there, though.

I ain't going to lie. I ain't going to say it straight to you, like, man, your ass got to pay $3.50. I'm gonna tell you, like, bet, who you're saying to? Bet, I'm gonna have my label contact, that's it. Oh, okay, and then it goes through email or some shit, so you're just like... Do you get a lot of people that, like, try to show you their raps and stuff? Like, they try to rap in front of you, like, if they shoot you somewhere.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Has there ever been anybody that's, like, really impressed you? Yeah, hell, yeah. Like, it's a lot of time out of hell, like, I ain't gonna say, like, I'd just be straight walking past motherfuckers, but sometimes I do, but sometimes I don't, and they really be having real talent. What if they're really shitty, though?

Like, and they show you in, like, them yeah no i'd be like you just gotta lock in i said it's everybody they know too i'd be like you just got a lock in and you get focused right right right right but you can't really judge nobody because i had music years today that shitty shit'd be the number one shit i uh so so in today's day you've already made it you're at the top of the game so i ain't make it yet so you're still going that's a good mindset that i was like somebody that's somebody that's right now trying to become you know what you are what's the best advice you give somebody right now in today's day and world i just stay you just

be you be different i don't try to follow no ways we'll work for somebody else ain't gonna work for you it might do it might don't but if you do like follow somebody else footsteps the world gonna look at you like you're just a baby version of the other artists and you don't want that

that's the worst thing to ever have yeah you don't want that what other business shit you got going besides the NFTs um we got houses of course but that's the regular shit um truck ins what trucks trucks yeah like 18 wheelers um restaurants we got what's with the 18 wheelers like what do you mean you got 18 wheelers

trucks like on that transport like packages from stores kodak said that too what's what the 18 wheel is don't ask questions no but i mean that's not like a conventional thing that's actually very interesting yeah exactly like how do you get into 18 wheeler transport like what's the you just get con you do you do batter trucks and you get contracts from like amazon or you'll get contract with like Walmart and so if they need something from this state to that's whatever it is but how do you get into that like that's so random you got to have a contract like you got to have a relationship you got no people everything's right i'm like i probably got if i got two trucks and my manager got eight trucks and he's doing well i'm gonna ask him like how you getting at what

you're doing it like who you're doing it with and he'll tell me then i do it i'm saying passive income yeah you feel like you've already accomplished all your goals right now like if you Drop dead tomorrow. You already said I made it? I don't be straight, but it's like I ain't... I'm hungry for this shit. It's like I ain't go through my paths and, like, lose who I lost for nothing.

So I want this shit to go up every time, every chance. It's like an infinite ceiling. Can't stop chasing your goals. Yeah, I'm never comfortable. Never comfortable. You know, one of my favorite rappers ever was King Vaughn. Yeah. You had a great relationship with him, obviously.

Yeah. Where were you when you? You got the call. We was in Houston. We was shooting the video, I think. He was one of the most talented guys on the planet. Somebody told me, if you can copy our artists to be somebody following, he had a whole image, I'm saying,

and he lived what he lives. What you rap about he lived, but he was good heart at the same time. So it was like, authentic, genuine. You don't really get that. How many songs did you guys do together? You had a bunch, right? Yeah, we did a lot of things. So, it's like, I don't, if I sit up and say that number, I'd be lying.

Right. Because you got to think about this one with, he was your guy, yeah. Yes, I said one, that's one way they had day, so. It's very interesting stuff. Bigger than Drake, you think? That's it to me, I know. In the trenches, like, in the streets, all this shit, that's what's going on. So what do you do to relax with all your fucking crazy-ass lifestyle all your crazy shit?

What do you do to relax? I chill. I don't really do too much for real. Like, I just feel like the world changed, bro. Like, if you do something, you got to do something amongst each other. Like, public, doing shit in public, not even the same no more. Mm-hmm. They got all type of shit, like, school shootings, and shooting that happened in Vegas.

It's like, you make you want to be more cautious of what you do. Right. You know what I mean? What do you think it's going to be, like, the Drake of this generation? Because I told you who was going to be, but I don't know. What do you think of Jack Carlo? He's popping. Yeah, he cool.

I fuck when. I met him. He cool. He's on some shit. Jack? You fuck with Jack I love Jack Carl's music I love Jack Carl's music

There's got to be like a lot of anxiety though With what you know With being at the center of everything all the time Right You ever deal with like any anxiety or any of that stuff I control my I control what I do like in my crowd Somebody just went overboard

No big deal Yeah I control I control what I do I control like who I be around I control what I be around So it's always gonna be a vibe what like keeps you going it keeps going for that hunger

like what's inside of you that's like man I got to what keeps you going no we all good I was talking Kyle we have side convos sometimes it's like I still my past it's still who I lost what I lost

and at the same time is what I gain all the shit I love like I want it so I'm keep going for this so you don't do the clubs we're debating Kyle's trying to fucking convince me to go to this story play or something tonight. No, I do clubs, but it's like

I do the clubs and I want to do the clubs. Like, I don't ever got to be like, I got to go. Yeah. It's like, that's why I mean, like, I control what I'll do like. Yeah, because I feel you'd be like a really valuable asset. Like if we decided to go out tonight, like, pussy.

I'm a little dirk, you know, like it would probably help me, like, get pussy. And I'm just saying you're invited if you want to go, but. We told all the broads out on the yacht today. Your girlfriend is India. Your future fiancee's India, her name is. Right, India?

Yeah. India. You're going to marry or ever? Married's a crazy thing. Engage. Engage means you've already asked to marry. Yeah. All right, word.

What was it? What was it? Like, where did you propose that? At the Chicago show. Were you freaking the fuck out? See, no, hell no, because I already hit in my head. But you think she was going to say yes? Because I'm thinking about it too right now.

I know she's going to say yeah. You know who she was? I knew she's going to say yeah. Are a lot of people trying to copy you with that locked up style? Like how you're locked up. You're with a girl. Like, are a lot of people trying to copy that now? I don't know.

They probably with them before me. You're one of the first to, like, rep that and, like, make it cool. Like, being with one girl. See, that's why I did the shit, like, because this is, like, really what I wanted to do. It wasn't for no internet. It wasn't really for no, like, man, you need to do this. This shit going to be. I did it because it was me.

I ain't really hear about, like, people are marrying their girl because they're in the limelight. They don't want to look soft. They don't want to. That's probably why they didn't do it. I'm doing it done shit That's like inspiring though That's pretty cool man Just can't imagine

It's gotta be like It's gonna be girls Always throwing themselves at you Yeah how do you not get like Tempted or how do you stay away From like that other shit Because I did the shit Before I got with her

You were like Yeah that shit I did that shit All the whole Everybody went ahead Ben hit him That shit boring After you know

You ready to leave Right You really hit her Right right when you're saying After you Not Is that what you said Yeah

So after you yeah yeah that's really it's really no substance to this shit right keeps you in line too when you have a good girl by her side it keeps you humble

it keeps you level headed and it keeps you in line you know it's true yeah but it's sometimes tempting no you got a girl

I do I don't want to get into it uh I don't know about after today I'm the yacht you know I got a lot of shit because the first five podcast episodes that we did

see what he said he told you go Shake some ass. I'm like, how do you have a girl? I was good. Listen, listen, listen. I'm behaving. Look at, I mean, trust me, there was plenty of bitches, as you guys say on that boat today.

And I, uh, I've never said that. You know, and your lyrics, I think you brought, whatever you guys say in the lyrics and all that. You got a girl, yeah, I got a girlfriend. Okay. I'll see why you go quiet. Huh? Well, no, Dirk, Derek, so who's, is there anybody that you haven't worked yet that you want to work with? I say Rihanna.

Rihanna. Yeah. Would you ever cloud with Taylor Swift? Yeah, yeah. I was, we're listening to Blank Space today, so it's, I don't know. I was this your vibe song? Yeah, yeah, I will. That's a no brand.

Or like Haley Steinfeld or, you know, Alicia Seara. Anybody with a bigger fan base than mine. We got. You freak up, I see there, I keep looking at the jewelry stuff. You spend a lot of money in the jewelry store. Steve does that, too. Goes in and spends crazy amount of money on jewelry. Yeah.

It got to be something I want, though. Like, I feel I got out of the shit. out my system that I want, like, before you get the money, you like, man, I want a thousand watches. Then when you get it, it's like... What's the negotiation process like, though? You go in, do you have a guy you go with that goes with you that negotiates, like, how much are you buying this for and all that? Uh, for sure. It's named Vani. His name's Vani. So Vani's the killer. We call him the negotiator.

So Vani's the guy he goes in and you're like, yo, I want to buy this piece. He's like, let me handle it? Yeah. It's like, we already plied on their ass. Okay. We know how much it calls. I'll send him in. Look, they're going to don't do this he's going to get the price down what's your biggest purchase how much on what like what far as what like money wise what's the most you ever dropped in it at one time i'll say like two million dollars two million dollars is just christ my fucking house ain't no dummy you're gonna get two million dollars from jerry you crazy life must be nice for your house two million bucks it's something for to live in holy moly what's uh what's the love like internationally like

outside of the united states yeah we get super love like we post a winter to the UK. We sold all the shows down like a minute, like 60 seconds. Is there every, like, shock value, like, damn. I'm in the UK and they all vibe into my... Everything. It's just like, you know, a different place. It's just still over here.

It still shocked me. We got a show in Chicago. It's nice thing with the Bulls played on our tour. And it's like, we sold it out. It was like 27,000, 28,000. Bulls have been playing good, too. Wow. You get recognized a lot in public?

Why is that a bad question? Yeah, they say I look like you. They say, look like me? Yeah. That's a compliment. Get that good smile then. That's what it is. Do you deal? Are you like, are you an asshole of people or are you nice to people?

No, it's, um, oh, they'd be mad. I'd be stopping taking pictures and shit like that. Like, only time I get mad is like if I'm eating or I'm like, or I got my kids with me and then it'd be like, like, you just ain't got no respect. Like, I wouldn't even walk up to you if you got your kids or. Right, of course not. If you eat it. I got food in my hand and every, like, make me get a pigeon.

And I'd be like, right? Here's the deal, Dirk, I'll be honest with you. We spend seven hours on a boat today. That might be it. We got a little fucked up. We came in, we're sent with a little Dirk, so I'm just asking some questions I want to ask. You've got to be having.

You know what I mean? We're just viving. We're just viving. So what are some things that you haven't accomplished yet that you want to accomplish in life? To me, my goal, definitely I want to grab me. You want a grabby? Yeah.

You ever got a way yet? No, I ain't got one yet. then a movie it's got to haunt you at night though you haven't got a Grammy huh you want to do a movie you don't do a movie oscar i got something i got something in the works about this whole generation you want to be an actor i'm gonna do a movie to show like the world our generation like why the fuck they like that or uh right but for the people like in our culture to see that shit and be like oh that's what we do today and for the people who aren't really understand it's gonna look at it and be like i'll now understand them you know what i'm saying yeah yeah yeah So I want to do it How does the Grammys work? Is that all like politics shit or like Oh yeah that should be politics Is it?

How does that work? Like who runs is so frustrating No You don't know about it? Politics I'm DMing shit straight up I ain't doing no plan If I know you run the Grammys

You gotta give me the whole run down How that shit work No I have no idea It's fucking bullshit They ever want a Grammy That's bullshit A lot of people who deserve that shit too That's all politics

Wow, oh my God. What's it like working with Future? I have my dog. How'd you originally meet Future? Huh? How'd you originally like link up with Future? First time. First time.

Oh, fuck up. One of the guys from Chicago, his name is on a man. You know, he won a future right-hand man. And he always, like, always connected us. Then we had did a song together, like, a long time ago. And shot the video and, like, in what we was from. And we just been locked in since. Like, he always began.

even like lecture the motivation and shit like that you were just on uh what's the best thing future like what's the best advice he ever gave you stay alive uh no no it's really just staying out the way and just really winning know what i'm saying and stop moving where it's like the money get scared of you see what i mean like you don't want to scatter money away you get what i'm saying no not really like okay so just say of like i say back then we were ruthless we didn't give a fuck about nothing and nobody want to bring you into no money situation because they know you'll fuck it up okay so basically we're just saying like don't scare the money off and that's just really how you're thinking twice about your decisions in life what you'll do like

if i do this on camera if i'll post a gun or that shit scared of money away you know what i'm saying you think future has been a good like mentor to you or if he has been no he always gave me great advice like has there ever been like a person that's been like a big mentor to you growing up or even the music industry as well i guess now uh my brother d thing he had passed um so it's always been like him my pops um my management team real i always kept my eager they are they see when they ain't see at first mm-hmm i'm saying you just did the you just did uh kimmel didn't you but i excuse me my fault i said y'all I'll post this shit, too.

Not Jimmy. You want on the good Jimmy, right, Fallon? Yeah, Fallon's funny. I like Fallon. Fallon's great. It's cool. Fallon's dope. Fuck Jimmy Kimmel, though.

Why y'all post him and say that? I was a little lost. Why we're saying, fuck Jimmy Kimmel? Yeah, I'll post him and say it. Yeah. I think it was you with it. No, he just kind of like, I don't know. It wasn't that bad, but he just kind of went at us, but we're just, he called us, like, small YouTubers.

I called us fucking dupuses. Who cares about that? But I just think. No, like, I don't know. It's just like a shot they take. They try to call you small. No, I really, I really want to. But it's like we got, regardless how you feel about Trump, we got Trump on our shit.

Like, you can't call us small at that point. Yeah. No, I really want to know. Like, if it's like a tactic they use to try to. Yeah. If it's off camera or on camera, I really want to know, like, why he said it. Who? Jimmy Kimmel.

Kimmel? Why Kimmel said what? Why he said the small group are YouTubers. Off camera. Well, we're just obviously not at Jimmy Kimmel's level here, obviously. It's a reason he said it, though. If you want me to be honest, I think it's because I think, like, I don't know. I think he's like a media.

No, he's like a media outlet. And I think that I think that the media gets scared when they see, like, other alternatives of media that aren't, like, controlled. Like being able to, you know, how we got Trump on and we're like, you know, we got five million views in 24 hours on Trump. I really want to fuck y'all. I don't know how to fuck y'all do that too. Yeah. So I think they get scared when they see that. My mentality is there's plenty room for everybody to eat.

But when you call those doofuses in a small group of YouTubers, we're not. You know, we have a pretty good thing. We have pretty good. Had success with the NFT shit that you guys did. Happy Dad Seltres, crushing it. I mean, so Jimmy Kimmel. Yeah. No, we got a lot more views than Kimmel.

Like straight out. I'll be honest with you. I went off. I mean, my girl flew home and I was by myself. I had nothing else to do besides attack Jimmy Kimmel all day. So I was just on my phone just blast this motherfucker for no reason. But the same time, there was reason. Those guys are all bought, though, too.

They are. Probably what does it make? Like $15 million a year, I think? Oh, probably. Probably. Yeah, he makes good money. So, Derek, talk about, talk a little bit about the design of the shoe and the Nifty and stuff. Yeah, should we bring, should we bring Ben back into as well?

Because I want to know where to get this shit in bio. Yeah, I want to know more about the, like, the detailing and stuff. Ben. Bring Ben back in. Oh, yeah. Oh. We don't know what Ben's doing back there. You know the Piper?

There you go, sir, right here My bad, my bad Oh shit We got the fucking Whole band here My bad, I'm late Look at the cat, I believe I saw you in the boat

Four hours ago, huh? Yeah, yeah, yeah They sent the jet ski From that boat to this boat Good, good, good to have you in here Rich guys Good to have you in here Rich problem

Paul Smith is gonna pass us At this point out Yeah, you know, we're all good It is what it is So what's your role of everything with Dirk? So I'm basically one of the co-founders Along with Dirk for Next Gen's

We run Satoshi Satoshi Art, which is an NFT marketplace, and Satoshi Designs, which is a full stack development and marketing agency for NFTs. So we all got together and basically came up with this idea to create a basically an NFT sneaker that you could rock in the Metaverse and then as well as in real life. So there's only 5% of people who get the NFTs that would be able to do that. So when you do that, you get this physical shoot that increases in value. So our idea is you never see anybody flexing with a, you know, $100,000 shoe on. If you're walking around in real life with a $100,000 shoe and there's only 500 of those shoes, it's lit and the value's only going to go up.

So that's kind of the idea behind next gens and we want to really, but we are bringing this shit to the metaverse and another level. Is there anybody else doing what you guys are trying to do? Um, there are other people doing what we do up. Were you laughing at, Dirk? I said, nope. All right. We ain't bringing them, we ain't bringing nobody up. Yeah.

Yeah. No, nobody's doing it like, like how we about to do it. For real. What's that other company that Nike bought? Um, that's next gen. But yeah, next, next, next gen, 100%. Aren't they doing similar shit? Similar, but they're not actually, um, they don't have a physical shoe.

And we're, we're creating a sneaker line of signature sneaker lines for individuals like dirk high profile individuals so that's basically what it is it's going to be catered to only the hottest people we got the hottest shoes and we started from the bottom to the top so we starting out with shoes and uh y'all are going to see we got a lot a lot of shit coming i love that sounds fire big when's when's the ea on the launch date um say in like three three four weeks oh three four weeks three four weeks where can they learn more discord discord definitely join the discord the discord we got a heavy community Um, people are, are lit in the community.

Uh, so definitely head to Discord, uh, website, NextGens, www. nextgen's.com. That's N, E, uh, NXT, G3NZ. So basically next gen stands for next generation. Of course, we broke it down. We got the three instead of the E for Web 3.0. We got a little bit creative with it. Um, and then Gen Z.

So Gen Z is this new generation of, of kids that are growing up playing all these videos. games like like we said before grand theft auto fortnight and now with the metaverse we got all these metaverse games as well and you know what nfts do is offers people the opportunity to be unique right so every token is unique so you can customize your avatar in the metaverse and be unique roll around with your homies and you got your own custom dude sure and what next gen's is is like the biggest flex we're gonna be the biggest flex in the metaverse if you if your avatar don't got next gens you're not flexing ain't no shit

what metaverse besides GTA are you guys going to be in you think we're in talks with the Central Line sandbox 2K we're working on we're working on 2K yeah so we're working on a lot of things we have a lot of things

development and I mean y'all seen the shoes she's next level she comes from the future literally that's amazing so this is your first solo number one album yeah right

You gotta be proud of that. Yeah, last one was me and baby Voice of the Heroes, but this is the first solo one y'all. Yeah. Walk around a little extra pep in your step. Yeah. I really love Spin the Block. I appreciate it.

That's a really good-ass song. That's like one of my favorite songs. Yeah, it's just, you know what I'm saying? It's goals that everybody wanted. You got people been rapping longer to me and ain't never had a number one solo. Like, when you said I'm a South Side, like that was...

Are you taught a solo future? Yeah, man. Man, like that, I felt great. That was a good song, bro. Yeah. Oh, man. I mean, it's an honor and a pleasure here. Oh, big honor.

Appreciate it, I appreciate, dog. Appreciate y'all. You know. It's a vibe, for real. We're always chilling, brother. And the best thing is this, at the end of the day, we feel bad. We spend seven hours on the boat before this, so we parted a little bit. So we're, I don't know if we were.

I think it was cool. It was cool. We got a shit going on. Wish you the best of luck, man. I think we're happy. We got everything, right? I mean, I'm chilling. Bill Derek.

Appreciate you. I appreciate a little Dirk. You're the man? Absolute. Legend. Check out. Little Dirk's NFT. It's coming out soon.

Full Send podcast. We're number two on Spotify right now too, so we're right under Rogan. Rogan's great. Rogan belongs there. It's cool to be right next to it. It's pretty sick. If we pass him, we pass them. We'll stay number two for as long as we can.

And by the way, Spofford, our boy Spofford. A man right here. This is Spofford's boat, his place. Appreciate it. It's a fucking man. Sexy boat. Big Eric. We appreciate you having us here.

Me and Bob were moving into his house, right? I already told him, I'm going to give you the plug for like three weeks. I can stay here and pretend your place is mine. That's it. All right, that's it. Full-sum podcast. All right, boys. Appreciate it.