FULL SEND PODCAST - Matt Walsh | Ep. 140

Episode Date: October 31, 2024

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If you'd ask me three months ago, I don't know if I would have said it. Well, three months ago, he was running against Biden, so I would have said yes then, too. There were a couple of weeks after Kamala took over that seemed a little touch and go for the Trump campaign. But recently, it seems like all the momentum's on his side. Did you see the thing recently? I'm sure you probably talked about this already. to do the daily pod, but did you see the thing recently where Kamala, there was someone who yelled in the audience, Jesus is Lord, and she was like, you're at the wrong rally?

Like, my question, why would you say that? Or why would you be at the wrong? Well, I guess she was talking about abortion. Yeah, I mean, I think their excuse is that, well, she wasn't referring to that. She just meant, but of course, it's true, though. Like, if you think Jesus is Lord, you are, the Kamala Harris rally is not for you. It's amazing that she would say that out loud, and it kind of shows, I'm not amazed by the sentiment. I know she hates Christians, but I'm amazed that she's willing to say that because this woman just has no political instincts.

Like I don't think I've ever seen a politician, certainly in modern American history, who has worse political instincts than she does. She just has no sense. Whereas, and she's going against Trump, who, whatever else you want to say about him, the guy's got great. We haven't seen a politician in my lifetime

who has better instincts than him. He just has a feel for like what works. and he does you know he went to the McDonald's the other day and he was and he was you know serving fries for a few minutes and it just worked it worked it was funny it was endearing and so he's got he's got a real good sense of that and Kamala just has no sense for it at all which is why I would think by all right like by all rights she loses I mean if we still live in any kind of recognizable world then by the the rules of politics that that have governed, you know, the country up until this moment.

By those rules, Trump should win. Like, for one thing, if you survive an assassination attempt while running for president, like in any other time in history, that alone should put you over the top. And then you take it, and then you take the second attempt and everything else too. He should win, but. My guys, five, six world championship is back. Last year, I beat every other end. loser in the game and won $100,000. This year, we're doing it even bigger, and I'm looking for

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like neck and neck and now he's like 66% in the lead yeah yeah well it doesn't surprise if it's gonna be the repeat where it's like this and it's like all the votes are counted that's why the disadvantage trump's at is that he needs to win such a decisive manner yeah he needs to win not just win but he needs to win by a significant margin um to avoid any of those kinds of scenarios he could I mean I don't know like I it's I'm not a good political like I said I'm a terrible political prognosticator. So we could wake up the next day after the election and Kamala is won in some kind of electoral college landslide. I'd be surprised by that. Fuck. Yeah. That would suck so bad. Imagine having to watch Kamala for the next four years. Or we get to watch Trump just run shit for the

next four years. Man. It would suck so bad. It would suck for a lot of reasons. Could happen though. It could happen. It could happen. I mean, fuck, no. That'd be bad. But I can also see a world, I can I can see a world where Trump wins in a landslide where these swing states just go to him, all go to him, and next thing you know, you're looking at, not only he wins the popular vote, and maybe he's the first Republican presidential candidate to do that since, I don't know, in decades.

I don't know who's the last presidential candidate or probably going to win the popular vote. And also he wins an electoral college landslide. Like, that could happen. And if it does happen, then I think we'll all look back on it and say, well, of course that happened. Like, again, the guy survived an assassination attempt.

He's running against Kamala Harris, one of the most unlikable presidential nominees we've ever seen. Obviously, he was going to win in a landslide. So, I don't know. We'll see. Either way, do you think there's going to be some sort of outrage or unrest post-election? Oh, 100%. No, what?

Which one do you think would be worse? I think it would be worse. If Trump wins, yeah. You think it's going to be worse? Oh, yeah. If he wins? If he wins. If he loses, if he loses, I don't think it'll be a lot.

as bad as if he wins. The response from the people that don't like Trump's going to be way worse. Yeah, if he loses, I don't think that, uh, yeah, I know on the left, it's, oh, January 6th. Um, and of course, they've massively inflated, as we all know, what, what that event really was, but even that wouldn't, like, the federal government has spent four years trying to find anyone who was even in the vicinity on January 6th and throw them in prison for as long as possible. and so the chance of anything like that happening a second time is basically non-existent. So I think if Trump loses, there will be no real,

a lot of us will be really upset, but there's not going to be mass rioting. If he wins, though, yeah, I would expect, the first time that he won in 2016, you had the Women's March shortly after that, you had people screaming, and crying in the street and you know

so we know the mass rioting that happened in 2020 which would not have happened if Trump wasn't you know if a Democrat was in office they wouldn't have done that so I think it's going to be why do you why do you think they keep trying to tie him to the project 2025 thing when he's outwardly said so many times that he's not he's not he's not in support of that well they like they put it in their campaign ads and all that

yeah well they have no moral standards whatsoever so they don't care but they don't mind lying shamelessly. I also think that Trump played that whole thing wrong. You know, it's, it's, because he started disavowing it. He started disavowing Project 2025. And the problem is once you start doing that, and usually he's really good at this kind of thing.

Like he doesn't do the whole, I disavow this. Like usually he refuses. When the media comes to him and says, do you disavow X, Y, Z? He'll refuse to do it because he knows that once you start playing that game with them, they'll never stop. Once you show weakness, they don't stop. With Project 2025 for whatever reason, I don't know if he got bad advice, but yeah, he started disavowing it pretty aggressively.

And so instead, the left didn't say, oh, well, he disavowed it, so never mind. They said, okay, well, this is something he's worried about. This is a weak spot. Let's focus on it. Let's, yeah, let's keep going. He's obviously worried about being tied with Project 2025, 2025, so let's keep hitting it. So I think that's what happened there. I think the whole World War III thing.

Do you see that? I think, I don't know if it's true, but North Korea, did they officially like put ground troops in Russia? I didn't see that, but I, but yeah, I mean, Trump, there were no, 10,000 soldiers. Okay, yeah, well, that's, I didn't see that. I don't know, there, there were no major wars, uh, as Trump points it out all the time on the campaign trail, it's true.

There were no major wars under his, uh, presidency. And, you know, he doesn't want, he doesn't want conflict, global conflict, which you would hope that any president, that's like a baseline that every president would get over, that they don't want global conflict, but. we also know that's not the case so we had no president's been like that really besides him right yeah yeah we've probably republican or democrat yeah we've had we've had we've had nonstop wars overseas for you know 25 years now until trump uh and then we had a respite uh and then it started again you know with in Biden under Biden's administration we got two major wars happening

overseas that we are involved in in some way you know that shit's scary all right boys There's a lot of crazy going on in the world right now. The border's wide open. Gas prices are through the roof. You can't even buy an egg anymore. It costs like the price of a house. It's going crazy. That's why I think this election is probably one of the most important elections ever.

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Do you think that, and this is maybe out of pocket, but do you ever think that if Trump handled, like, the question or just talked about how he will, if he ever was just like, you know what, I lost the 2020 election, that that that was. would do anything for him. I don't think it matters. I don't think it would, it matters. Because a lot of people love to go back to that and like, why won't he just fucking say, hey, you know what I lost? I mean, at this point, obviously he can't say that. At this point, maybe not, but like maybe in the debate, because it was brought up a few times and they just want to say, hey, let's move on, let's move on. But it seems like a lot of people are waiting for him to just say that, just to see a changing character. Yeah, I just don't know that it would matter. I don't, I think it'd be just like disavowing Project 25. It doesn't, you know, they're not

going to then suddenly say, oh, he's not a threat to democracy anymore. It doesn't matter. It doesn't really even matter what he does or says. How many of these do you guys record in like a week? Depends. One or two. We're going to do two this week, but then next week we probably won't do one. Just like depends. We try to do one a week.

What's your schedule like for content? I mean, I do a daily podcast, so it's every day. That's the one on X, yeah? Yeah, it's on X. Yeah, it's everywhere. And then with the movie I've been doing you know on the on the promo tour so am i racist that's a pretty it's kind of like a little bit of like what we do on our other channel with nilk in terms of like hitting camera miced up

or like kind of like a bore at vibe how did you come up with that idea to do that well you know we uh so my first movie was called what was a woman came out a few years ago and that was about the kind of trans insanity uh and with that movie it was more of uh like we're i'm just going around asking questions, taking like a skeptical approach of asking questions. And with this movie, we knew we wanted to get into race

and DEI and all this kind of stuff, but I didn't want to just repeat what we did with the other movie, and that's always a, you know, a temptation is just to do exactly what you did before. And so we thought with this would be interesting if instead the approach is,

I'm not going to be skeptical towards these people. I'll just believe whatever they tell me. And I'll let them kind of guide me on my journey of my racial awakening journey. And so it starts with like, I'm just me as myself and I ask a question, you know, I'm talking to these DEI experts, asking them questions.

They're giving me answers. I'm believing whatever they tell me. And then it's like, okay, well, if that's true, where do I go next? And I'm putting their ideas into practice. So they can kind of build and we want to have this effect of like going down the rabbit hole. So by the end of the movie, it's completely insane.

And it's because we're sort of showing like this is what happens when you take these ideas seriously so it's a little bit of a borat but it's not because with borat it's like he he he's a character from the start of the movie yeah you turn into one as it goes right we wanted to have it's like where i where i have to adopt that persona because i'm trying to do the work as they say to become uh you know racially how many like insane people did you come across i saw the one i saw the scene where like the champagne the dinner yeah and that like indian kind of looking lady saying I used to be a white woman.

Like, is there any stories you can tell us? Like, what was the most insane person that you came across? I mean, they're all insane. That was called Race to Dinner, which is a real thing. Like, we didn't, obviously this is all real. We didn't invent any of it. And race to dinner is you've got the Indian woman, Cyber Rouse, her name, and Regina Jackson is the black woman.

And they go to dinner with white women and they sit at the table and they're paid thousands of dollars to call the white women racist for like two hours. And they just sit there and the white women are sitting around the table. And they're getting just eviscerated by this, by these two ladies who are calling them racist and just tearing them down for hours. But they pay, like, are they paying to get like educated on the subject? I mean, that's what they, that's what they think they're getting paid for. Right. That's absurd.

Wait, so why do they do that? Yeah, so can, I'm trying to understand. Sounds like a fetish. I really don't understand. I feel like Steinie would do that with black guys. You're called a racist? No, like you get paid to like have dinner with like black guys. No, I already do that.

What do you mean? You would pay. Maybe it depends who it was. It feels a little bit like a BDSM type of thing where they just like getting torn apart. I don't know, but like I said, it's a real thing. So we when we started making this movie, I knew I wanted to be, I wanted to get into one of those dinners. You know, I wanted to see what I was like. We wanted to document it.

I would have loved to actually sit at the table. and be a part of it. But, and we, so we called them up to see if we could document a dinner and if we could have, and we told them was one of our producers could they actually be at the table. And they said that you have to be a woman to be at the table, like a real woman. They didn't say that, but that's what they, because they can't say. Because then, of course, that raises the question, well, what's a woman, which they can't answer? So they said that you have to be socialized as a woman to be allowed at the table.

That's the way that they kind of try to thread that needle. So, and I wasn't socialized as a woman. so I couldn't sit at the table, but we found out that... What constitutes, like, socialized as a woman? Well, right, exactly. As a woman? Yeah, right. Well, what does that mean?

It doesn't really mean anything. What they were trying to say is, like, no, you need to actually be a woman. You can't be a trans woman. You have to be a real woman, but they can't say that. So instead, they come up with some other way of saying it, so they say socialized. But we did find out that you can be a waiter. Like, it's okay if men are waiters at the dinner. In fact, they encourage that.

They like the idea of white men. men serving them. And so that was our way in. And we found a way to set it up behind the scenes. How did you do that on like the prank or like the logistics aspect? Like how did you become the waiter? I mean, you know, can't give away all the secrets. But it was, uh, we, we set it up so that, you know, we, well, I'll say this. Well, we rented the house where the, where the dinner was at. And, uh, you know, we set up some catering for them, which is pretty nice of us. And I just happened to be one of the uh yeah one of the waiters and the goal in the scene was i wanted to earn my place at the table i wanted to start by by waiting on them and by the end of the

scene i wanted to be sitting at the table with them and uh and as you see in the movie like i i i accomplish it so obviously this is real because you say that earlier but i don't understand how there's this section of people that are what they're just feeling bad because they're why i don't get i don't understand what what like this is the thing this is a real thing yeah have guilt because can you break down on the premise of what's going on for brad no no i understand the premise what i'm trying to understand is you're telling me is there's just a whole group of people that feel bad because they're white yeah that's i mean that that's that's that's the idea white so where does this where is this coming from is it just people are just waking up and they're

like i feel bad that i'm white i mean that's a good question i i've thought about that a lot when we're making this movie is why do like why would you uh go to that dinner um And I'm not as confused by the DEI race hustlers themselves, the con artists. I know what they're up to. They make money off of it. Yeah, 100%. Robin DiAngelo is infamously in this movie, and she wrote white fragility. She's kind of like the godmother of this of left-wing racial ideology.

And she's sold, I'm sure, millions of dollars worth of books, and she makes a lot of money. So that's what she's into it for. But, yeah, the people that go to the race to dinner or they go to the seminars, why are they there? And I think, I don't know exactly. Some people have theorized that it's maybe, it almost is like a little bit of like a weird thing that they like to be told that they're bad. I don't know. There might be that. But I also think there's a spiritual element to it where these people are struggling with like guilt and these kinds of really human experiences.

But they don't have a religious framework for understanding any of that stuff. It's like, so me as a Christian. You're a confession. Right. Well, yeah, as a Catholic in particular. Yeah. So if I feel guilty about something, I feel guilty if I do something wrong, but I know that, okay, well, I know why I feel good. I've done something wrong. I can confess. I can, you know, I can find forgiveness in my faith. And I have that framework for understanding it. But these people have no religion, so they don't understand why they feel this way. And then you've got these race hustlers who come along and they say, well, I know why you're feeling that way. I'll tell you why you're feeling that way. It's because you're white. And they become sort of like the priests and priestesses of this new religion, kind of guiding them on a spiritual path to forgiveness, except that they find out that there is no forgiveness. You can't actually be forgiven. That's the, that's the trick at the end of it. So you could spend all the money on the seminars and buy the books and all that kind of

stuff. You can go to the race to dinner. You can go five times to a race to dinner. And you'll still be just as racist at the end of it as you were at the beginning. Yeah, I was wondering. So do they leave there in the same mindset, like feeling the same way? Or do they seem changed at all? Yeah, yeah, because you can never be not racist. That's part of the deal. If you're white, anyway if you're white you can never be not racist that they tell you that if i ask this question in the movie multiple times i say like well what you know if i don't want to be racist how can i how do i rid myself of this racism uh virus that i that i have and the answer is you can't robin de angela tells me that in any given moment you can be less racist or more racist but you can never be not racist

if you're white so why why do you think this is only applying to white people that's the ideology that's left-wing racial. That is when we talk about DEI or anti-racism or CRT, like whatever word we're using, what we're really talking about is basically left-wing racial ideology. And their ideology is, I mean, if you're to boil it down and make it as simple as possible, their ideology is that all white people are inherently racist, white people are the villains of history, all of societal ills basically ultimately go down to white people and the systemic racist structures that they've set up. And if you're not white, you're not racist.

And that's pretty much it. Like, that's what they believe. And everything kind of grows from that route. Doesn't that just then just, it gets kind of like directly or indirectly, then just reverse racism. It's just racism as well. Yeah, and I wouldn't even call it reverse racism. I mean, racism is just racism, you know.

Right. So if a black person is racist to a white person, that's just racism. It's not even reverse racism. But on left-wing gender, or racial ideology that we're exploring in the movie, it's just, it's not possible for a black person actually be racist against a white person. So a black guy could run up and like, say, die whitey and punch you in the face. And that's not a racist attack, according to the left, according to these people in the movie. They actually said that like. Yeah, I mean, that's an example that I'm coming up with.

But they would absolutely say no matter what a black person does, they cannot, they just, they definitionally cannot. be racist. Who's making these definitions? That's my question. Well, that's always a good question. I mean, that's, that's always the question. And a lot of this goes to like, you know, these are academic ideas that started being popularized in academia, oftentimes in like the 60s and 70s and 80s. And it's the same thing with gender ideology, you know, the idea that men can be women if they want to be and vice versa. These are ideas that started in kind of the academic realm and kind of stayed there for a long time for decades until they started filtering down from there into the general population and we saw in 2020 with the racial stuff that was like this moment of just

explosion where all of these ideas came pouring out um and just took over society in a way that they hadn't you know they'd existed before but they just became you know suddenly it's like everyone is walking around talking about systemic racism and all this stuff so um and that's usually the way it goes with these ideas is they start up there in academia and then there are events there are things that happen that allow these that class of people to kind of use those events as a Trojan horse to get these ideas out into the the general public it just seems like it's all just to create like more hate to hate people hate each other more whether it's we're talking about the the men woman thing or we're talking about the racism thing it's just like why is it

pushed to some extent that's what makes me sad too it's like because I feel like at As a society, I feel like we do love each other like a lot. Like black, white people, whatever your ethnicity is. Like, I feel like there's not a lot of racism going on. So it sucks to see when like, whether it's like the George Floyd incident or something, like they'll just pick like 0.1% of examples and just like broadcast that to the world and then try to tell all black people that like white people hate you. When in reality, I feel like there is like not that much racism anymore.

I don't know. I agree. I agree. I mean, that's, and we talk about in the movie, we start the movie talking about, like, in the 90s. I grew up in the 90s and wasn't perfect. It wasn't a perfect time by any means. There's never going to be a perfect time. But it, and there were racial, you know, there was race riots in L.A. There was the O.J. verdict and that sort of thing. But generally speaking, it was not a topic of constant conversation. I went to school, public school with, you know, very diverse school. And we didn't sit around talking about, they weren't like drilling racism into our heads. constantly. We weren't talking about systemic racism and all this stuff. People were, it was basically okay. Like it was as okay as you can expect. You're always going to have racism in society. Always. We're tribalistic. Humans are tribalistic. And so that's going to be one of those. You can never eradicate it. Right. You can't eradicate it completely. You have to, you almost have to acknowledge that going in that this, yeah, it's a bad thing. Racism is bad.

Hatred is bad. Envy, greed. All these things are bad. But if you ever have a plan to get rid of those things entirely, that's always a bad sign because it's just not possible. You can't do that so you have to realize it but anyway theoretically in a perfect world you'd obviously want to have no racism right you'd want to have no rapists no murderers but like it seems like that's not unless it's like a euphoria exactly if it's like a utopia but you have to start with the debate you have to start with the basic recognition of just reality that any plan you have to make society better has to start with has to start in reality if you have some plan to improve society that isn't based in reality then it's not a good plan and it usually ends in horrifically you know

any attempt to make a utopian society always creates the opposite but yeah in the 90s it was like it was it was you know it wasn't this constant focus it felt like uh and we kind of I think we got as close as you could possibly expect any society to ever get to being like a quote unquote post racial society which which again that can't really exist but uh it's as close as you're going to ever see. And then Obama's elected the first black president. And it would seem almost like ironically that things started trending the opposite direction. It was wouldn't that be like a legit like sign that society as a whole is not racist that the majority of society elected a black leader? Like I thought that would be like as a society's in America. Factually not. Yeah.

You would think so. And I was not an Obama supporter or Obama voter, but you would think that at least one of the positives that would come out of that is we could say, okay, well, systemic racism obviously isn't a thing anymore uh you know we don't have to worry about america being a racist society we just elected a black guy to lead the country um but i think on the left they kind of recognize that and and they didn't want people to draw that conclusion they didn't want us to say that okay well racism isn't a big deal we don't have to worry about it anymore because it's such a potent tool for control for them so they had to work overtime after Obama was elected to create incidents of racism to like find racism in society and that's when you started

hearing about, it was after Obama that, you know, BLM came about and we started hearing about all these police shootings that were, or alleged examples of police brutality that turned out not to be, things like microaggressions, you know, these kinds of concepts that didn't exist prior to Obama. They all came out because I think that it was like, okay, now we have to work overtime to convince people that they're racist. So we're saying that they are the people who are doing this to them for this example. What you spoke to is the left? Yeah, I mean, generally speaking, like the left is very broad. It's almost like lack of a better term, I'd just say the left.

Yeah. But we could narrow it down in this case to the left wing advocates of leftist racial ideology. You know, those people in particular. Like in the 90s, it was Al Sharpton was one of the big. It's like if you thought of that group, he'd be the first name that would come to mind. It's like those kinds of people after Obama had to work overtime to convince. convince us that we're a racist society. And then what ends up happening is that you actually become a more racist society.

Like racism becomes a bigger factor. Well, it just seems interesting to think that only white people could be racist. That's a crazy thing, I think. Yeah. Well, it doesn't make any sense. Of course, it's not true. But that is racist in it of itself, isn't it? Yeah.

Because it's like saying that's the basis of racism is that because your skin is this color, like you don't, you're not going to agree or you're not going to like this other group. but you're because of the color of your skin that you're just racist. I don't get it. I mean, racism, in my mind, racism is not a complicated subject. It's if you think that any group of people

is inherently lesser than you. Lesser than you. Inferior. If you have hatred or animosity for an entire group of people just because of who they are, then you're racist. That's what racism is.

And if you don't feel that way about other races, then you're not racist. You might have many other flaws like we all do. but you're not racist. Yeah. And so it is pretty simple that way, but the people that promote this stuff, they don't want you to see racism

as a simple concept like that. Because then you could easily say to yourself, okay, well, if that's what racism is, that doesn't include me. I'm not racist. So I don't have to listen to these people. I don't have to buy the books and all that. But they don't want that.

They're like, no, no, no, you don't tune us out. Even you. In fact, if you think you're not racist, that's all the more evidence that you are. So you've got to buy even more books now and go to more seminars. So it's just, it seems like a money thing, like a good i don't get it yeah where do it like what's the agenda with that in your opinion i think

it's yeah i think it's money i think it's uh money's always involved in these kinds of things power influence you know um when you have people coming to you trying to find out how to be a good person there's there's a lot of influence in that and uh and so i think there's i think there's that as well i think those stories also do just sell as well like even in the media numbers yeah well they started well they fucking do it with trump all the time too they push it on him right well i forget there was something where like the the search terms for like these sort of that's what i think too there's like going crazy in media because they were getting views they were getting engagement or would it be like a news article or whatever on social media etc it also became

a big thing that like oh if we type if we use this as a headline it's just sells if there's a thousand yeah is a great example and it's just like numbers are going up yeah exactly i mean that that's it's all part of the it's all it's all part of the narrative and and and you know they have they have uh the media even still has like an incredible power to set narratives even the mainstream media even though we all kind of think that like they're not relevant anymore because we have the internet we have like anybody can make a show and reach millions of people you don't need cable news and the mainstream media outlets anymore which is true but they still have but but those like legacy people a lot too it's still a group that's still that's but you're most recent case

I can think of is like Tyree kill obviously you saw that situation right yeah it's a little it's a little bit, it was a few months ago, but that goes so viral. It's talked about heavily for two or three weeks. Exactly. Everybody just assumes that, or just by, immediately by the narrative that he was a victim of police brutality, right? And then you watch the video, and at least from my perspective, you know, you watch the body cam video. And it's like, okay, I mean, just like, it's not that hard when you're interacting with the cops. It's not that hard to avoid a scenario where you get arrested or thrown on the pavement

just be just like be like a minimum level of respect and decorum and don't go out of your way to be confrontational does any part of you think that the cops could have handled the situation a little different I don't think it was racist I don't think they I don't think they should have let

him Tyreek go to the game well they weren't white so they couldn't be racist right Tyreek had to get on the field I think it was a Hispanic cop right he still played I know but he sort of touched on that game yeah he was still playing his celebration was pretty cool I don't know if you saw a celebration.

I think it was because. I think I saw it. But there's a difference between police brutality and racism too, right? You got to ask him. I mean, look, I think in that case, I watched the video one time. It was rolling up the window and it's tin and they can't see. They're like, yeah, that was the thing. You can't, you cannot roll the, okay, he got pulled over, I think, because he was speeding, I believe, right?

Yeah. Okay. I've been pulled over for speeding. I got pulled over for speeding a few months ago and I was going like eight miles over the limit or something. It was crazy. I mean, usually they give you a 10, miles and they don't you know over the limit before they pull you over i got pulled over for like

eight or nine miles over the limit and uh it's annoying but like i still got pulled over and i was respectful to police officer it's you don't have to get out and kiss his boots but you're just like you're not trying to start an argument with him and because you also know that if i do want to argue my way out of this ticket this is not the guy to argue with you go to court to argue that that's this is not the time for that uh but i also know that if i was if i was driving a car with tinted windows and that cop is trying to talk to me about the ticket and i try to roll up my tinted window so he can't see me. Yeah, I'm going to get, my ass is going to get pulled out and throw on the pavement too, because from the cops perspective, it's like, why are you doing that?

Like, what are you doing that you don't want me to see right now? Yeah. And, uh, and we've seen so many, we've also seen so many videos of how it can go when cops are trying to pull somebody over for just a speeding violation or some simple traffic ticket. The next thing you know, they're getting shot at. So they have to be thinking about that too. So I always get, you know, I give the cops some grace in these things. Even if they're, like I think in that video, they're probably a little bit more. A little bit aggressive. They probably shit themselves when they found out it was Tyreek. Well, they should have handled it a little different.

And I could say it's like, yeah, okay, it seems like there's a little, like you're having a bad day or something. But it's not racism, number one. And number two, I can just, I have more sympathy for the cop in that case than I do for Tyree Kill. Because Tyree Kill, you're a millionaire athlete. You're getting pulled over. I know it's an inconvenience. Just deal with it, buddy. It's not a big deal.

From the cops perspective, it's like they deal with, first of all, cops every day. are dealing with like the dregs of society i mean they're the ones who are where did that cop just come from for all i know he just came from a domestic violence a call or something and he's just dealing with like horrible people all the time it's true and that that that weighs on your psyche and also you're aware that at any moment any person you're interacting with could just pull out a gun and try to kill you and that happens all the time to cops you and i we don't have to worry about that yeah most of the time and uh so that makes them a little jumpy so you know I tend to just have a little grace and I give a little leeway.

And I think more people should. I don't know. It's not about. There's another really viral situation I saw the other day. I don't know the person's name, but it's a black trans woman. A cop was knocking at her door and he opened the door. And she immediately stabbed him. And he had to gun her down in the hallway.

Do you know the name? What's that? Do you recall the name? I didn't see that. This was viral. And I think it was actually not even trans. I think it was an actual woman, like a biological, I believe it was a former basketball player or something like that.

I don't remember her name. But yeah, the cop was responding for a mental, because somebody called and said, can you go check on this person? They might be having some kind of mental episode. And the cop knocks on the door. And the woman opens the door and immediately starts slicing at him with a butcher knife. And the thing is, if you watch that video,

it's like a horrifying video. It looks not real, but it is. He's backpedaling down the hallway, pointing a gun at her, telling her to stop, and she's chasing him with a butcher knife, like a horror movie, like some slasher film.

He waits a long time to actually pull the trigger, and I think he waits so long because he's worried about, he's aware of the fact that he's on body cam, and he's aware that there are people out there that if this goes one way and that woman dies, there are going to be people who just want to throw him in prison.

for it and um and fortunately he survives but you know i think he should he should have pulled you can see in the video he's like when i he goes down to make his radio call like blood dripping from his face in the video because she actually already stabbed him yeah well she stabbed him she slashed at him when she opened the door he does not fire he backpedals down the hallway trying to give her a chance to stop he she chases him the whole way down the hallway and then slashes him and only at that point does he fires his weapon if it were me i would have fired it like the moment you're after the first swipe i'm gonna you know you're done i'm not taking a chance with that but i think he took a chance because yeah probably he's aware of

this is the situation cops are in where when someone tries to kill them they're aware of the fact that okay i can let them kill them me and i'll die or i can stop them from killing me and i might go to prison for that that's like the ultimate lose-lose scenario that these guys are in yeah i mean there's something else i see now too is a lot of people like to and i think they do it for it goes viral on tic-tac but so many people just like to go up to a cop and say name and badge number just for no reason i don't know if you guys ever see those no i haven't oh but they just do it and it seems like they're kind of trying to take advantage of the situation and see what they can get out of the cop because the cop now knows that he's being filmed yeah and they're like playing the situation

of their advantage just for clicks and it's just such a stupid thing if you really think about it. Like, why are you going out of your way to just mess with this guy? And they just do it to go viral. So, I think that with the videos and the body cams, it's just taking, it's making things a lot worse than it needs to be. And you're

antagonizing people who, I mean, look. You're just provoking situations at this point. And we need people to do this job. I don't want to be a police officer. Like, I'm, I want people doing that job because I want to live in a safe society. And, and, you know i want to have somebody to call if i need them but i don't want to do that job uh you're not

paid all that much you could get killed at any moment and you could also go to jail if things go wrong so it's like it's a pretty thankless job and the more we the more thankless we make it the less people will be willing to do it yeah and then you're and then pretty soon you're living in communities and this is the case currently in a lot of communities in this country where they They don't have enough cops. And, uh, and there are some real, you know, there are some real drawbacks to that. Yeah. Needless to say.

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Yeah. So if your friend could become a champion, but he has to do that, would you support him? I mean, look, I respect trolling. I consider myself an artist as well in the trolling, in the trolling arts. So I would respect it. I would never tell you not to. Just to get the W? Dude, you could be a, I'm telling you.

Dude, I would be a gold medalist. First of all, I've never considered this. Well, you're not competitive, I feel like, bro. here's what i'll say though if you do if you do that don't change any like don't shave the beard don't cross dress just go 100% as you look right now and just say i'm a woman though it just reminds me of that south park episode where he's like he's like he's like oh bitch he's like if you guys ever notice how come south park they're the goats they can do whatever they want and no one ever comes after that it's a cartoon it's a cartoon they also got grandfathered in

i mean family guy too heavily guy and i haven't watched those shows recently but uh But, you know, South Park did a trans episode like... They did that years ago, yeah. It was like 15 years ago. I remember when I watched that episode when Mr. Garrison becomes a woman. And just whenever it first aired, and it was almost like, I hadn't even heard of some of these concepts. It was so early, but they were way ahead of the ball. But I think, yeah, then they get kind of grandfathered in.

The question is whether a comedy show, a mainstream comedy show could come along today and tell those kinds of jokes probably not well Dave Chappelle tried tried right he got I mean he can never cancel Dave Chappelle but he did a little bit out one of his most recent specials and got a bunch of backlash and but I think it ultimately worked out better for him just makes you bigger yeah does that ever scare you how far you can take things without like fearing being canceled yeah I don't worry about getting canceled because for me it's like you know I first of all I've been canceled so many times at a certain point it's diminishing returns for the people that are canceling you um

And after you've been canceled, after you've had the mob coming after you on a large scale a few times, if you can serve, that's one of the advantages of cancel culture. I think it's also why it's kind of petering out, I think, is that if that happens to you, you got the mob coming after you, demanding the apology, telling you you're a horrible person, and you just refuse to apologize and you continue doing what you're doing before and don't change a thing. Well, now it's, it's, it's, you've kind of incapacist. them. And the next time they try to do it, it doesn't matter because I know how it's going to go. And that's why I think cancel culture. It's still a real thing, but I don't think it's like the height of cancel culture was probably four or five years ago. Yeah, it's definitely going down. And it's because of this, because you just needed people, you needed some people who were willing to say the things and piss everybody off. And then when everyone says, you need to apologize for this, they would look at the mob and say, no, I don't, I don't apologize. And Chappelle did that.

And once you have enough people doing that, then it just kind of, it takes, you see how teethless they actually are. It's crazy how much has changed over the last like four or five years. So much. Like four or five years ago, you really couldn't say much on the internet. And now it seems like people are saying like the most extreme shit possible

just to go viral sometimes. And what I want to ask you about your recent movie is, have you noticed like it being pushed a little bit less? Or I saw something about there's someone's not reviewing it. It's not getting. as much press because it is a little controversial. Yeah, I mean, we... It's on fucking Netflix, huh?

No, but I'm saying like, I think Joe Rogan actually talked about it, about how he saw that it's getting pushed less or there's less reviews. Certain people aren't reviewing it because it's so controversial. Yeah, yeah. We got zero mainstream film critic reviews. So, of the, you know,

the mainstream film critics that write for whatever, New York Times and Wall Street Journal and the, you see on Rotten Tomatoes, like zero, none of them reviewed the film. film. Even though, you know, we, we released it in theaters. It debuted in the top five in the box office. It is right now the top documentary of the decade for box office returns. Wow. It's like a top 35 in the genre all time. So it had real success in the box office. Now it's, now it's on DailyWire, available on DailyWire.com. But in spite of that, like the film critics just pretended it didn't exist and refused to review it. which I think is probably I don't know if it's the first time ever but it's pretty uncommon

that a movie can be widely released in theaters, debut in the top five in the box office and not be reviewed by a single mainstream critic. But that's what happened here. Why do you think that is? I think because the subject matter is too controversial for them. They don't like me. And we know that part of because we

actually sent screeners to all the critics and we got some responses back from some of them saying like, I hate Matt Walsh, I'm not, I wouldn't review this if my life depended on it, you know. And also I think, you know, is maybe I'm biased obviously but I think it's a good it's like it's a good movie and it's funny and you know you could it's not no movie's perfect like you could you could try to find criticisms here and there but I think they only wanted to review it if they could give it like a zero out

of five stars say it's the worst movie of all time it's not funny it's lame it's terrible if we gave him a movie like that if we put a movie out that was actually bad then we would have gotten all the mainstream film critic reviews because they could have trashed it which is what they want to do. Couldn't they just do that anyways? They could do it anyway. Yeah, they could. They could, but it just wouldn't be credible. Like, you can't, anybody who watches

the movie, again, you know, it doesn't, I'm not saying you have to think it's a perfect film, but you got to at least admit, like, you know, it was well made. It's pretty funny. And I think for the film critics, they don't even want to say that. And they're worried that that if they were even,

if a film critic were to come out and say, I don't like the movie it's a bad movie Matt Walsh is a terrible guy he's evil but you know it's kind of funny in parts if a film critic even says that

their audience is going to tear them apart for that like their readership's going to be mad that you platformed Matt Walsh and you said you like the movie sort of you said something nice about it and they don't want to deal with it so they just pretend it doesn't exist

because they're worried about their own readership and by the way we saw that with we didn't get any film critic reviews from mainstream critics but we did have some journalists from like I think The Washington Post, the New Yorker,

and a couple other publications. They weren't film critics, but they were journalists who did watch the movie and talked about their experience with the movie and said some nice things. Like they,

they criticized me and the film, but they said some nice things about it, and that's how their readership responded. The readership was really angry at them for saying anything nice about the movie. I have a question for you specifically in your journey and all of this. Like,

what made you want to get started in this? sort of genre like in this kind of i don't know if it's called counterculture but viewing of culture in the way that you view it like have you have you always been that way like growing up are you like this is this is weird i want to talk about it like how did you get towards that uh not obviously not the specific topics but in general you mean for making movies or just in in general i guess in general and then what what made you go towards these specific topics yeah i think uh i mean i've always been you know right wing and and and

So, like, right wing is counterculture. That's what the counterculture is. And I've always been, I've always been that. What doesn't have liberalism or left wing had been the counterculture for so long, though? Yeah, exactly. It was, it was. And that's it.

And, and, but the left now owns the culture. They own all the institutions. They own all the Fortune 500 companies. They own academia and media and the federal government. So they are, you know, you can't be the counterculture when all the major institutions are owned by you. and so now they are the culture they're the dominant culture

and if you oppose them then you're the counterculture which is also by the way why I think the left they don't really their comedy isn't good anymore they forgot how to be funny they forgot how to make good art

and I think this is one of the reasons why that it's hard to make compelling art and compelling comedy that's defending powerful institutions I want to ask you about SNL recently is getting people are showing them a lot of love because it seems like they are getting

a little bit more edgier with the whole they're doing a bunch of skits making fun of influencers Kamala have you noticed that at all that they're being a little bit more edgier I have noticed that a little bit I don't watch I haven't watched like a full SNL episode and I don't know how long decades probably

but I see I see the clips when they come up on YouTube I think like most people I have been impressed Seems like they're shitting on Kamala a bit Yeah so well I don't know I mean I think their Kamala impression The Maya Rudolph impression is pretty lame Like it's pretty tame

You could tell that they're They're trying at least a bit. They're trying a little bit, but they don't want to actually insult her. But even so, I mean, every once in a while, I'll see a skip from S&L

where I'm kind of impressed. I'm like, this is, okay, maybe you're getting your funny bone back a little bit. I don't know. And every once in a while, they kind of go, they lightly tread somewhere where you're sort of impressed

that they were willing to go there at all. But the bar's pretty low these days. Like, and I think it's because on the left, you know, comedy has been dead. I mean, when's the last time? you know what's the last funny major studio comedy film to come out unless you're counting these superhero reasons we should actually see if we can answer that it's been a while there's got to be some more recent than that so good but that was like 10 years ago yeah that

was in my if i'm answering that question it's the interview yeah i i because i always felt and i never saw i didn't see that one but it to me to me it seemed like 10 2012 to 2014 was the end of mainstream comedy and then it just went away for like a decade um but you think it was more recent than that yeah i'm trying to think but there's got to be something bro it's the interview it's the last one that was like controversial and funny yeah yeah it's so good fuck maybe you're right dude because that was back when i mean you had like the early 2000s into the early part of the 2010s when you had when was when did bruno come out yes i mean that was Sasha barricone way that was bruno was amazing 2010 i mean the first borat was 2006 or seven I think and then yeah it was right around like 2013-ish that

they just stopped making comedies and they haven't really done it since and I think this is part of the reason why where it's like you can't there's so many rules now you think stand-up is kind of the last place that that form of comedy exists yeah and there's a lot of funny stand-up out there but even even the funny stand-ups these days are they probably wouldn't identify themselves as conservative but they're not leftist like they're they're kind of right of center least um you know guys like Shane Gillis or whatever I mean I don't he's he's not yeah I wouldn't call him conservative but he's not he's not a liberal so you got to kind of be like on on this side of the center or the right side of the center at least to do funny comedy these days it seems like

unless there's some hilarious leftist out there that I'm not aware of maybe there is the talk show host too I didn't even realize because we just did Trump and we asked them about all the different talk show hosts and like I never even watched them but just like even seeing the responses to that like Jimmy Kimmel Colbert they're all like all they do is just trash Trump every single show and they yeah they trash them and it but

it's so weird in a way that's not funny like you you could make fun of Trump in a funny way and there's there are a million funny Trump impersonations out there even the Trump impersonation on S&L now is pretty fun it took a long time to find a funny one but the guy who does it now is funny so you could you could be funny

and make fun of Trump obviously but the problem is that when they make fun of them they just hate and they're not even trying to be funny it's just like there's so much like hatred and contempt uh in their jokes about trump that it's just it doesn't have it's not funny it's it's um and i think especially to make a parody or a satire of someone to impersonate someone in a funny way you have to have a little bit of almost like affection for them yeah at least a little bit where you you you know so like the guy in s&L now i don't know who it is who does the trump impersonation but it's funny and you can tell that he that guy i'm sure he's probably a liberal but

i don't think he's like seething with rage at trump because he's studied him enough to pick up the mannerisms and um and i don't know if you just if you're just blind with rage that's not a good starting point for comedy you know it seems to me going back to i am racist is there any party when you do these because it is like a documentary as well Do you ever have, like, empathy or do you ever change up how you feel or do you always just stand on going in there, how you feel it's how you're going to come out? Because you do talk to so many different people and maybe one of them has made you think differently. Yeah, I mean, there's certainly moments in making this film where we talk to people who

I definitely empathized with and was, but those were, it was usually, like, we, we went and talked to, there's a scene where we go to a biker bar. actually here it's here in tennessee this this biker bar and they've got like confederate flags hanging on the walls and all that um and we talk to them about these racial issues and and the reason we go there is because if you listen to the media you would expect to find nothing but virulent racism from these people and we talk to them and what we find is that they all they're all just saying hey man I don't, you know, I don't care what color you are. We all bleed the same.

If you're black, it's fine. We can still be friends. I'm not focused on it. That's what we heard. And then we went down to New Orleans to the black community, the, you know, the poor black community in New Orleans and the city and talk to them. And we heard the exact same message, the exact same thing of, hey, doesn't, you know, I don't, I'm not focused on race.

We all bleed the same. They both said the exact same phrase. And so, yeah, having those kind of conversation with those people, I feel for them. I relate to them. But when I'm talking to these, you know, when you're talking to somebody like Robin DeAngelo who's pushing this stuff, it's like harming society.

She's harming people in a real profound way, harming society. I don't feel bad for her. And when we're putting things on, you know, when we're getting footage, that's going to be very embarrassing for her and probably destroy her career, which is exactly what happened.

Her career's over. I don't feel, I don't lose a second of sleep over that because number one you had it coming number two you brought it on yourself and really we're just we're providing you an opportunity to say what you think

and to live by your own principles and if anyone ends up really horrifically embarrassed in the film in this film or our last film which a lot of people are embarrassed it's like that that was on them they didn't have to

they didn't have to make those choices and the other thing too is that in this movie you know we brought borat earlier and i think borat's hilarious but when you watch that movie um who is he like putting on camera who is he embarrassing he's embarrassing normal people for the most part just like normal everyday people that he's that he's and he's kind of tricking them into saying and doing embarrassing things um but we don't do that we're punching up Like we're going for powerful people, you know, Ivy League educated, powerful, influential, wealthy people. That's who we're going after.

And we said going into the making this movie that if there's ever a scene where we do talk to normal people, in those scenes, I'm going to be the butt of the joke, not them. Because I don't want to, yeah, I don't want to embarrass some normal person. and then now it lives forever, you know, in this film and they got to deal with it. I don't want to do that. So when we went to the biker bar, we went down to New Orleans, I was the stupid one saying stupid things

and just getting them to react to it. And they reacted like normal people. They came out looking great. Yeah, there is a lot of, a lot of people that do like to challenge the normal people, the college students that, like, we'll use Charlie Kirk as an example, who's so much,

who's so far educated against everyone he goes up against. So you're saying basically like that's beneath you and you don't want to try people like that. That's a little different. Because the college students, I've done that too. I go to the, I've done the campus talks and we do a Q&A. And first of all, that's a very different thing because that's, you're holding an event and you're speaking.

And people show up and they want to challenge you. Like they made the effort to come and challenge you on camera. there's certainly no trickery involved it's like and uh and so i put that in the category of okay well if you get embarrassed there you you signed up for that you brought it up right you you volunteered for it um so there are you know there are videos of me floating around out there you know Matt Walsh destroys woke college kid and it's always the same thing I'm at a I'm at a given a talk it's a Q&A I love those videos though they are great they're fun now I do think I you know those always bang on YouTube too he's that destroys

in capital letters. They go crazy. Shapiro got a million guaranteed. Shapiro's got a million of them. They did it on tip. Shapiro used to be dope at that. Yeah. It is kind of like I will say I haven't done, I haven't done a college talk in a while. I didn't do any. And by the way, I wasn't trying to like throw shade at Charlie Kirk. I'm just wondering

if that does anything besides views. It's a fair. It's a fair point. It's a fair point. But yeah, I think it's a I think it's a, it's a, there's a difference. And for Charlie, he's like, it's a debate. Let's debate. Uh, which is different from the whole Borat thing of I'm going to create this elaborate scenario where you don't even really understand what's going on

and you're going to end up embarrassed in a movie that millions of people see. And yeah, like I said, we did a similar thing with this movie, Am I Racist? But we were making it for specific groups of people, not for just average everyday, you know, folks. Yeah, I was wondering what's probably pretty guilty of that. Well, you never know now what's for educational purposes and what's for views too. Right. I mean, it's, there's nothing wrong. Like, there's nothing wrong with getting views.

We all need, that's part of the business we're all in. You know, that's, that's, so I don't know. And, and, I mean, there are plenty of times where I have, like I said, going back to those college videos. Yeah, you know, you could look at some of those videos and you're like, well, that was, I got some blue-haired woke college student trying to argue with me and prove that women have penises or something. And it's like, it's pretty low, it's like literally low-hanging fruit in a lot of different ways. and it's pretty easy to embarrass them. But like I said, they kind of bring it on themselves. Going back to the presidential thing,

I guess I'm not so much so much the presidential thing, but America in general and like escaping, I don't know, the grip that the military industrial complex has on us, like talking about the wars and going back to war, continuing wars like during Biden or whatever, and during Trump there is none, do you think we ever actually escape that? Because it seems as though like America's sort of built on this seemingly from the outside looking in like the funneling of money to these giant corporations to continue whatever conquest that they have involved in different parts of the world.

Do you ever think we get out of that? I think to get out of it is a full on dismantling of it. It's like, well, Trump used to, in his 2016 campaign, especially, drain the swamp was a big, was a big slogan. Yeah. I think then he got into office and found out that draining the swamp is a lot. lot harder than you might think because the swamp is like everybody i mean the swamp is fucking deep yeah if you want to drain the swamp it means you're firing thousands of federal employees um and uh and then it's also a weird thing because it's like you can't do it all yourself so you almost need the swamp to work with you a little bit in its own dismantling um

so it's a hard thing to do but that's what it would require and i hope that if trump wins but do you think we ever will because it just seems like if i were being cynical about it I don't think we'll ever will, we ever will. But it's possible you just need someone to go in there. It just seems like whether it's if it's not war or if it's not like the COVID thing or if it's not something that's making money for this sort of system that we're just continually in this cycle of whether it's that president or this president, we're in the same situation, just different timeline of like, where's our money going to

defend or protect or the figure this out for this vaccine and all the tax money goes here that goes to this pharmaceutical company there. It just seems like we're just continuous cycle. And it's almost like, we can't even say it's necessarily a Kamala or a Trump or a Biden or a president. It's almost just like the overarching control. And does that ever really dismantle?

I feel like it's... It'd have to go to zero, I think. Because like, we know, everyone talks about the inflation and all this stuff. And it's really just because of the printing of money. And then it's also the taking of our tax dollars. So then the money that we actually make is worth less because of the printing of money that then our tax dollars

and the printing of money just ends up in like, some military fucking building bombs or building weapons or defense systems, whatever it is. And it's almost as if we're going to be beholden to that forever as America. It just seems like we talk presidents and I know how important that is. But then it's like, does that ever actually shift and change where people aren't just constantly paying for wars here or defense there or aid here or, you know, pharmacy vaccines here? It just seems like we're fucked. And that sounds cynical, but like if I'm just looking at it and then you hear people's

perspective on the economy and the way daily life has lived and how expensive things are, it's like, well, that's the only real fix. Like, because they say, you know, tax it billionaires all this, take all their money. And I think there was a figure that was like, if you took all the billionaires money, you'd run the government for like eight months. If you took all of their wealth. Not even eight months. And so it's like a few weeks maybe.

Right. So if that's the case, clearly the government, the way it spends our money is completely fucked and washed. And we're just living in this like giant cycle of debt that we're just continually paying. for and then be affected by our dollars is worth less and we're just fuck so whether it's a trump or whoever so where do we go i agree well if you're looking for a guy to give you a hopeful message for the future i'm the you got the wrong guy for that yeah i just i think you're smart i just want to understand if you have any like how do you fix that i think a lot of what you said is right and this is

this is what's pretty demoralizing about it is that we put so much emphasis on the presidential election and it is important yeah the president is just sitting at the top of this gigantic blob like uh monstrosity of the federal government and um and we see i mean Trump was in office and then he left and they they basically undid everything he did in like 10 seconds or most of it now they couldn't do all of it the Supreme court is one that they could not undo they still they would like to try they tried but they couldn't um so there are a few significant things that they couldn't but a lot of it a lot of the kind of policy changes and all that executive orders well the border thing was instant and then it was like everyone's here again right exactly exactly um

because it and it's because this the federal bureaucracy is run by people like it's not even really run by the the president um and these are all people that have their own objectives and their own agendas. And then the problem is you have a president, and then the next one can come in and just erase all of that. So the only way out of it, that's what I'm saying. I think the only way out of it is with extreme measures. Like, why am I blanking on his name all of a sudden?

The presidential candidate, the Indian guy. Vivek Ramoswamy. Yeah, I don't know, forgot his name. He had a plan to, I think it was he wanted to fire like, half of the federal workforce, I believe, almost overnight. And that's really what it would take. Maybe it was more than half. But it's going to take something like that.

And, of course, everyone listens to that plan. And they're like, that's crazy. You can't do that. Well, that's what it requires. If you want to actually make a dent, you want to stop the situation you're talking about, then you've got to go in and you've got to start cleaning house. I guess Trump wants to bring Elon in to help with the government efficiency. The jokingly, the Doge thing.

But yeah, the government efficiency thing. And him coming in. Kind of doing when he did a Twitter. I guess to be like, you guys are all like... Exactly. It's exactly what Elon did. We should take a businessman to do that and just like take a like nothing's changed for so many years. There's got to be ways to make it more efficient. Elon did that.

He went into Twitter and fired almost everybody. And what do you find? Well, the website still runs. It's fine. It's like it's better now than it was before. And what does I tell you? It's like all these people. I mean, even putting the ideology aside that a bunch of, you know, putting aside the free speech issue,

which is the most important thing of Elon taken over. Right. But also it just shows you that there was all these people working at Twitter who just did nothing like they they had no reason to be there and you get that with any large organization you end up with this bureaucratic this this bureaucratic phenomenon happens even in the private sector um which is why Elon was able to fire almost all of them company still works so then then expand that to the federal government where you've got hundreds of thousands of people working how many of them could you just fire tomorrow and none of us would even notice it like it would not change

our lives at all because everything would still be working maybe even be working better i mean there was that video i don't know if you guys saw this video that went viral a couple days ago of the hurricane cleanup efforts by fema and they showed some this video they took of like 13 agents i think there were CBP custom border protection agents who were they were transporting one like 10 pound log 20 feet because a guy was like cutting a tree and then they needed to throw the log on a pile of logs 20 feet away and they had 13 agents standing in a line just passing the log from one agent to the next

so that it could travel 20 feet. There's no way that's real. It's 100% real. And it's like you look at that video, it's a perfect encapsulation of the problem because you don't, you could get rid, you don't, you only need one of those. We just got to get stronger people.

I should just been over there. Yeah, you need one guy. Just one of you to just just. Brad takes over FEMA. I'm down, sign me up. It's a way more efficient. Let's go. Or, you know, like, go to Lowe's and spend 60 bucks on a wheelbarrow, and you could put 10 logs.

You could have one guy transport 10 logs in the time it took 13 to do one. Real visual representation. Yeah, I get it. So can someone come in and look at a video like that and say, okay, you're all fired? Like, if all you, this is what you have to do, then you're just done. And, you know, I mean, Trump, he got famous with you're fired. Like, that was his catchphrase. and I think he needs to get in there

and actually do that and like he's got nothing to lose like they tried to kill him they want to throw him in prison I'd love to see him go in just fucking clean house right like I don't know wars

clean house that'd be amazing lower energy imagine he comes in and they just do it I feel like they're gonna do that I feel like I mean they've talked about a lot it seems like it's almost like at this point

if they get in they have to do that to some degree I don't know what degree I hope I mean it's it's harder than we can make it sound easy when we're just sitting here right right It's harder to actually do. But I think a lot of it is hiring the right people.

And yeah, if he gets somebody like Elon Musk to help him with that, gets Vivek in there and in the cabinet, like these guys that have done it in the private sector. And they have RFK on the health stuff. Yeah. It seems like they're, he said the first time, too, he went in. And it was so bureaucratic that he didn't know what person to appoint at what head of each department.

And he says that's the biggest thing that he's going to fix this year. Yeah, because most of these guys are in there. Like most of these people that have these government. jobs their whole job is really just to justify their job and they just spend all day doing things to justify the fact that they have a job to begin with things that don't need to be done or have already been done or it's redundant and that that's what you get with these organizations and we're just it's like it's killing us we're drowning I mean yeah the government spent six trillion dollars last year or something like that I mean this is just it's crazy to think what

America has become like given what the resources and everything that it has that we just become this like giant cycle of waste and still so many people struggle And on top of that, you got these morons who they think the solution is to just tax more and take more money. You know, they say, well, the rich aren't paying their fair share and all this kind of nonsense. And I know it's not popular to defend the rich, you know, but once you get up there on the income bracket, like, you see that because if you listen to them talking, if you listen to Kamala Harris, like, well, the rich need to pay their fair share. And you don't make a lot of money. You hear that. You think, yeah, okay.

Yeah, they, oh, they're not paying any time. taxes the rich people and then you you make it up the income bracket and you like you look and you realize like holy shit i'm i'm paying like they're taking half of your money yeah what do you mean not paying my fair share um top income bracket for the federal federal income taxes is 40% almost 40% that's not even counting property and state taxes and this is all it's insane it's insane to take that much money from people i don't care if they're rich or not and all of that is just going to feed this beast this uh behemoth you know and we we got to just it's at a certain point someone's got to put a stop to it it's scary next four years oh but actually have and even in the

health sector like you talk about rfk and make america healthy again is like how we even got to a point of such an obese and out of shape and just fucking unhealthy country given the like again all the resources we have but then it just points directly back to the pharmaceutical industry and then making money from medications it's like how how does everyone not see how big of a bullshit scam it is it's like how did we get here and then people defend that it's like how are we even because it's so evil i think that like some people don't want to accept it like i remember when i was a kid it was like yeah you got to eat this many like this much grains and grains are good for you and grains are like the things that caused most of the health epidemic in

this fucking country and we're just like that was a staple that kids and families were taught for so many years and it's like funded by the people who were going to the agriculture industry that was going to make the most money from this to be the case to then basically us for years and now we're trying to fix it and unravel it's it just seems like humans are so innately fucking selfish that like we're fucked no matter who it is and no matter at what point does it change or if there's a new guy here it's like it's let's say we drain the swamp right exactly what we're talking about then in what another hundred years is the swamp just a different set of swamp fucking members like it just seems like we're fucked and i i know it sounds cynical and

it's sad when i say that but i can't see it be in another way because we're not going to change humans Like, that's the sad part. Yeah. Well, I walked in here feeling okay, but after talking to you. Yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I have no hope. I have no hope for the future now.

I'm so sorry. Yeah, I have hope, but it's like, no, you're not wrong. It's almost like you have to change the innate nature of humans to not feel like I need more than you every single time. Yeah, yeah. You're not wrong. Like, part of the problem, you bring up the pharmaceutical industry, people want to be able to trust, like, the pharmaceutical industry, like, the pharmaceutical industry. They make medicine, supposedly. Doctors, yeah.

I think for most people, your instinct is to trust. It's like, well, they make medicine. We should trust them. And then you find out over time that, well, once you find out you can't trust these people anymore, that's when you have, it's like people don't know where to turn. And with the vaccine stuff with COVID, I think was an awaking moment for a lot of people. Yeah. But really with the pharmaceutical industry, I mean, you know this. it's like the scandal there goes the COVID vaccine is just is just the tip of the iceberg.

I mean, yeah. They've been getting people hooked on drugs. There's a massive basically drug cartel inventing diseases basically for people to and then giving them the cure for it. I mean, the pharma school industry has been doing this for decades. That's so fuck. Yeah. It should have been a major scandal and it wasn't that when it was revealed a couple of years ago that, And it wasn't even revealed because people that study this stuff already knew this.

But it became public knowledge a couple of years ago, for example, that the so-called chemical imbalance theory of depression is not real. It's not true. So the idea that you're depressed because you have a chemical imbalance is made up, not true. And the pharmaceutical industry had been selling antidepressants on that basis to millions of people for decades. telling them that if you're feeling depressed, take this because you have a chemical imbalance in your brain and it will even out the chemicals, whatever that's supposed to mean. And then they come out with this study and they're like, yeah, well, okay, that's actually not true. That's not.

So the reasoning behind this drug that we've, this whole series, this whole classification of drugs that we've been selling and made billions on. It was built on a lie. Yeah. And it's like, that barely even makes a wave anymore because we're so used to being lied to by these people. And that's part of what you're talking about. the corruption in these institutions is really deep. So like I said, the question is like,

do humans ever innately change? I don't. I mean, you go ahead and take that one, Matt. Yeah, I definitely wasn't asking you that question, bud. I don't think I answer that. What do you mean innately? It depends on what you mean by innate. I just, you're, you're trying to like rewrite, rewrite the way humans are sort of wired, it seems,

like to get more, to take more, to have more. Like you can't, you're not going to, you're not going to change. I think an individual person can change. significantly, but changing people on a mass scale is a different, is a different thing. It can be done. I mean, it's been done for the, we've seen it done for the worse. And you could get people to change their behavior, you know, the government's done this.

Like, look at just one small example, nobody smokes cigarettes anymore. People have other ways of ingesting nicotine and tobacco, but nobody smoke cigarettes anymore. And 50 years ago, everybody smoked cigarettes. And how did that happen? Well, it's because the government decided it's like right when I was growing up. They were telling us about the evils of cigarettes just constantly, just drilling it into your head from kindergarten, basically, because the government decided that this is something they wanted to like,

this is a change in behavior that they wanted to see. And it succeeded. And now, you know, the younger generation, they don't. Or they just knew they had vape. cooking up and they were like these fucking vapes instead those are bad by these bitches they've gone to other things right yeah

vapes and weed I mean but so it's not even an improvement as my point but they did change that behavior you shifted it didn't change it right it's fucked shift yeah I'm sorry I'm not trying to be cynical I'm just like it is what it is I'm looking at it I'm like this is this is an undeniable yeah like do we don't want to hang out

with you I'm sorry Brad's sorry I'm sorry Brad just like I was having a sick day and then everyone talks about shit because like we're getting views we're getting money And it's like, dude, is it ever going to fucking change. You're right. Nothing changes. Everything is terrible.

And it just keeps going. Everyone's life's fucking sucks. If it's not cigarettes, it's fucking vapes. And you know what else? We're all going to die too. That's the other thing. Fuck. So getting the gym.

We're all going to be dead any moment. So getting the gym. Be better individually. Trying to bring it back now, you know. You know, you can't try to shift that into a positive message. Yeah. Yeah. At the end.

No, you actually. We're all depressed now. Thanks, dude. Sorry, guys. Thanks, Matt. That was amazing. You're a great guy. Hold on.

Hold on. So I guess the one last thing that I'll say that in this regard is like, like you said, someone could change on an individual level. And I think that's the thing that people have to look towards the most because that's how ultimately it all, you know, if we talked about the cigarette thing, even though just warped into fucking vapes, they were like, we all agreed at some point this was bad. So the question is really like, can people take inventory of themselves and go, what I'm doing is either good or bad?

Do I want it to be better and start to actually fucking change it? The sad part, like I said, it's just in relationship to like the overarching thing. that you can't necessarily directly change, but I guess you can change, of course, yourself. And I think that's where this kind of like, if I'm trying to summarize it back down to something that could be good, that should be the focus then.

Because that's all you can actually change. Thank you, Brad. That's a good inspiring message. Yeah, that's right. I don't want to buy it. Yeah, it's true, though. We should all go get lunch. Brad, you keep going.

We're going to go get lunch. You just keep going, bro. Hey, I'm talking about the hard shit. No, this is a great combo. We appreciate you coming through. Yeah, appreciate it. Matt, thank you, bro. We'll put the link to the new movie in the description.

It's on DailyWire.com now. Yeah, yeah. Awesome. So everyone go check that out. I'm going to watch the full thing too. Wait, it's not on Netflix. I could have scroll. I saw something on Netflix.

It wasn't that? It better not be on Netflix. We're going to sue their asses of Netflix. I swear. Yeah, no, it's on, it's on dailywire.com, yeah. He's like, fuck, if that's on Netflix. Awesome. Well, we appreciate you, man.

Thank you, man. Thank you, thank you. Thank you, bro. Awesome.