FULL SEND PODCAST - MMA Guru | Ep. 181
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I don't know your name was Kyle.
Yeah, it is.
People know it.
I mean, I don't know if you want to put this in there.
Where do you live at?
They've docks me enough.
In the UK, I used to live in London, but I moved out.
What are you here for?
I'm here to go fishing with Bryce.
That was the main thing.
Coming in to go fishing with Bryce, but then Moikano messaged me.
supposed to do something with Moikana in Florida.
So I thought I'd come out here.
And then, what's it called?
Aidan Ross fucking messages me.
Yeah, how is that?
So I got to come to Miami to go chill out of Aden Ross.
And then you guys message me as well.
So Liam, been watching the channel.
We were thinking about doing you for a while, but we know that you're never, you don't come
to the States often, right?
This is my first time in the States.
But I don't leave the fucking house often.
Yeah.
So I don't know if I'll be in the States.
How was the Aiden stream last night?
You got into it with Armand?
You know, it's just fucking.
I was trying to take easy on him, but he's just going crazy on me.
what it is, you know. You're in a lot better shape than I thought you would be from your videos.
No disrespect. That's okay. I got a chubby face. But I was... You're like...
Yeah. I was like 300 pounds though, to be fair. Really? Yeah. And what do you win now?
About 250? That's dope. Didn't stop Arm and slamming me on my fucking head.
Did Arm on slam you? I didn't even see it. He didn't slam me, but I went for takedowns and he just
he hit me and it's called Snapdown City basically. Selim might understand these references.
How hard did he go on you? He seemed like he was playing with me. He was saying his grip strength was
See, here's the thing that I learned is that those fighters, when you talk your shit or whatever,
so they have an opportunity to actually see you in the ring, they might fuck you up.
Yeah.
His manager took me aside early on.
When we left Aden's fake little room set up that he has, his manager put his hand on my shoulder and said,
you keep poking the bear.
You need to stop poking the bear with these guys.
Or you're going to get in trouble.
So I was thinking Amman's going to get me in the ring and he's going to dunk me on my head.
But then they had like a challenge of like if you get a take down on Armand,
will give you 20k or something.
I'm not going to pass up on.
Has fighters ever like,
I mean,
you've definitely gotten hit up.
Yeah.
Have they ever like,
yo,
when I see you,
like,
it's all over for you and shit.
Like,
has there ever been fighters that said that?
I feel like fighters don't,
like they've learned
to not take shit from like fans
or like experts on the internet.
But I feel like I kind of changed the culture.
Before I came along in MMA media,
everyone was too scared to like
be critical with the fighters.
And I kind of started saying,
this guy's trash.
And then once I got a,
taste of that life of like calling him trash, I think I kind of just fell in love with that game
of insoling the fires. Have you been to a fight? I've not been to a UFC fight, no. Never been to a
UFC fight. I have a problem with that, bro. How are you going to be an expert and not even
attend a fight ever? Because it's a bit of you from my fucking TV screen, man, and I get to make the
money off of it. I'm spending money on tickets. You don't want to, like, witness it live and see
what the atmosphere is like? One day I will, yeah, but I'm in hustle mode right now. I'm trying to
make my money, not. I respect that. Which fighter do you think you've gone at the hardest?
It's, Dagestanis, for sure.
Because they win often now.
If John Jones is more active, I think I would have gone after John Jones.
So why are you such an MMA guru fan?
Okay, so, so your videos popped up a bunch.
Oh, I mean.
Because you cry every time Islam.
No, okay.
Dagestanis, I like their fighting style.
I like Islamakshav, those guys.
But your video stumbled upon on my YouTube feed, because I watch MMA all the time.
So you do go at a lot of fighters, and the Dagestanis got to be the one.
It's their fans to be.
fair. Their fans are crazy,
they're in my live chat, because I do
Fat Companions. Sometimes it's got like
30, 40K viewers these days, and
their fans are just active in my chat
trashing me, trashing me. So by the
end of the stream, I'm like giving them the final word
of just like
sland- What kind of shit do they say to you?
I don't know. Fat fucking retard
doesn't know shit, shut your mouth,
fat fucking Western soy boy
bitch, your fucking countries, fucking
doomed, all of this type of stuff. They go
crazy. These guys, these Pakistani guys go
crazy with the shit talk but they get intricate into like the fucking downfall of western civilization
when they're in soul of me so i like to get i call him in bread it's like fucking 50 50 in my
opinion it's kind of fair shit this is crazy i'm looking at like stiny from the knelt boys here
you're like the new star of the show right pretty much i guess thank you bro appreciate that that's
okay that's okay what's up guys 905 sure i've been how are you back have you been watching for
a while yeah i've been watching it i was watching um when you guys were spoiling fucking
movie spoilers outside the theater when you did the original nelk will never be topped i don't know you
can never talk the origins no it's the same with me everyone asked me to go back to the old
the more humble that the origins of things but i remember watching you and you guys were doing just
simple pranks i mean the pranks is tough to be we actually shot a funny prank today but i mean dude
when i was fucking 22 23 i don't have a worry in the world when you're shooting pranks like that
yeah you can't really yeah you can't replace an era like that it's tough was the avengers
that was goaded
Yeah.
The spoiling?
Yeah, that was hilarious, bro.
We're going to try to shoot more pranks, though.
But it's just, there's so many limitations now.
You're more popular now, so people are breaking out.
Like, if we upload a prank, the person we prank is going to see it, see it.
If that happened back in the day and, like, someone we pranked, they saw it.
We would freak out and be like, yo, they saw it.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Now it's, now, and then they're going to try to sue us.
Well, it's also, you can't.
I don't know how old you are.
27.
Once you hit that 30, it's all the comments.
You just get roasted for anything you do.
when you hit that age.
You can't do anything.
I don't do a fuck about that though.
No, but I'm just saying it is different.
Yeah, yeah, it's different.
Well, it is different.
You're 30 years old, like, start fucking growing up a little bit.
Yeah.
In a fucking shop going, I mean, you do the in people's ears and shit like that.
That's kind of different at 30.
At that point, you're kind of a sex.
How old do you think I am?
You could be 60.
Oh, well.
Just being real.
But you also could be younger than me, though.
It's one of those things.
East African.
Do you think I'm, like, over the age of 27?
You'll probably, yeah.
But based on your aggression.
You're 24, okay.
But if you got to told me you were 60, I would have.
Wait, Guru, what's your, what's your fighting experience?
My fine experience, I did taekwondo when I was younger.
So, ages.
So I was always doing martial arts when I was younger, but I was shit.
You guys should roll around.
This guy would kill me, bro.
I reckon you'd beat me.
I don't do grappling.
I don't do grappling.
Well, you've never, like, rolled.
I've done some MMA lessons.
I think I've done under a dozen MMA classes where I've done some grappling.
What's your thoughts?
I don't know if you cover it, but like the streamers getting in the ring with, like,
fighters, like Strickland always done.
does it, we did it with Tuporia.
Yeah.
You react to it?
I think you owe it to the thing.
They didn't plan me to go out there and grapple with Armand.
But you kind of owe it to the content, if you know what I'm saying?
When you're standing there and you're in front of the fighters and people are offering to grapple with them, it's like, go on.
I'll get a little bit of humiliation for the content.
It's a UFC fire.
There's no loss in like getting out grappled by some top level UFC fire.
No, you said something.
What did you say to his face that piss him off that?
Tapori would knock him out.
Yeah, that's a total year.
You would beat him at one-fifle fight.
No, that was fair.
At 155, that's 170, no chance.
You said Kuporia would be Armand or Islam or Islam?
Islaman and Islam at 155.
Oh, you told him to his face, he would beat him?
Yeah.
Oh, I didn't see that.
How do you react to that?
How do you react to that?
He's cool.
I think fighters understand that you've got to be a little bit honest.
And he knows that I've been talking shit.
His management, Aidan Ross's guys were like checking him with his managers that
it was going to be okay that I was going to be in his vicinity.
And he said it would be fine.
So, and also if they attack me in the US, like he risks losing another title shot,
getting cut from the UFC.
So it's tough.
It's like a tough position for him as well.
He kind of has to accept my bitch us, critiquing him.
Armand's one of the calmest guys in person.
He is.
It's like very...
So are you not a fan of his fighting style too?
I like Armand's fighting style.
And what's happening for Armand next?
I think he'll fight the winner of Oliver versus Holloway.
Dude, so they won't just ever give it to him.
No, he needs to win one more, I reckon.
I would think after Dan Hooker.
I thought that as well.
And weighing in at 317, I thought he would like, okay, yo, he proved it.
Yeah, I thought he'd end it back as well, but Dana don't like that shit.
Like, if you mess up an event for him, he hates you for him.
That was the first main event of the year, too.
I can't lie. We were going to that fight too.
Remember we were coughing at the time?
I was fucking pumped.
I was pissed when I found that out.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Armand versus Islam, that would have been one of the, who did it islam?
Yeah, hell of yeah.
He fought Moycano.
Where was this at?
He was in L.A.
Into it.
Oh, my God.
Oh, I forgot about this.
Yeah, that was UFC 311.
Armand Srucan, Moikano stepped in on a day's notice.
That was high, but Dana hates that shit.
Dana loves John Jones.
He might love him a bit too much in some ways.
What's your overall thoughts on Dana?
I think Dana's cool, but as a boss of the UFC, there's a lot to critique.
So I'll get my content.
I'm kind of curious to like what your critiques are.
Because let's establish this.
There's a difference between a diehard expert and a casual fan.
What are the critiques of Dana?
No, no, hold on.
Here's what I want to say.
There's a difference between a casual fan.
I'll say I'm a casual fan.
I don't know nearly as much shit as these other guys I like to watch.
and you're an expert.
So if you look at Dana
being a businessman
trying to grow the sport as much as possible,
you would argue he's doing a pretty good job.
He did a good job.
No two ways about that.
Like he brought the sport from nothing to something.
That's crazy.
You'll never be able to top that.
But at the same time,
I always say this.
Dana's supposed to be doing the fucking promotion for this
and he's out here on the backer at tables
with Steiner.
That's the fact of the thing.
That's late night, bro.
Yeah, but that's late night promotion.
But I feel like there should be more effort.
You know when he announces.
You can still do both, though, no?
He can still do both, but what is him doing the promotion of it is my question?
Because he's on his phone.
I'm sure other commissioners are doing that shit behind the scenes, too.
They're just not on camera.
Yeah, I get that.
But when you're on your phone and you're giving me like 240P, grainy quality,
fight announcements.
It's like, come on, man, hype up the sport.
I just feel like the UFC could be 10 times better if someone was a bit hungrier.
Yeah, Dana needs, like, his son to take over the business with new hunger for promotion.
I don't know.
Wait, you want the Vince McMahon out?
I think Dana's hungry for promotion in the UFC.
I mean, he does a decent job, but he could do way better.
I mean, look at this Paramount Plus deal.
Yeah, but that's just the UFC.
What do you mean?
Like, I know that Dana White does a good job, yeah, but I don't know.
I think he could do more with, like, amping up the fights a lot more.
I think if you knew him, you'd know how much of, like, strategic killer is.
Okay, when was the last face-to-face interview of fighters, then?
Have they ever really done that?
They do press conferences.
They used to do that all the time.
But they don't do face-to-face interviews.
Like, when there's a table in front of them.
One of they?
Oh, like the DC Jones type.
DC Jones talking shit in front of each other with Joe Rogan.
I mean, that's a great idea.
That'd be sick to watch.
Yeah.
They need to bring that shit back.
But it feels like, you know, when they get to a certain level of business, they can just sort of down, gray.
But this Paramount Plus deal to pull this off is like, this is game changing.
Yeah, it's game changing.
Like, this sport's going to be huge this year now.
Oh, wow.
It's game changing.
Big word.
That's bare minimum.
No, that's huge.
I'm a hardcore fan.
I'm addicted to this.
It's all I have in life.
Give me more.
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I want more excitement.
Do you think you need more from Joe's Dana or more from the fighters?
Everyone.
Everyone needs to be pulling their way.
Have they ever reached out to you?
Yeah, the UFC used to reach out to me.
Before UFC 300, they were messaging me to get me on the countdown episodes.
So I'd be like on the countdown.
My voice would be on the countdown.
My image would be on the countdown and stuff like that.
So they would email me and say, can we use this part of your video where you're hyping up this
and put it in the countdown episodes?
But then John Jones was gay.
So I just had to fucking know.
What?
I had to do it.
What?
That falls in my lap.
When was he gay?
Yeah.
When was he gay?
When?
Yeah, like, what makes you think John Jones is gay?
Quite a few times.
It's like a million view video on my channel, which pretty, it breaks it down pretty well.
But he was like at a club with a man friend of his, on this video that a comedian posted, and he was getting real frisky.
I know what video talking about.
That did sound like him.
That was, that did sound like him.
What did he do?
Just a quick, like, shoulder massage for his comedy show.
Yeah, it was really hammered.
Yeah.
He was just saying a lot of, like, he was talking to the comedian.
Yeah.
Yeah, but it was like really sucks.
Sometimes you get handsy with the boys drunk, though, a little bit.
No, but if, don't know the last video.
I would say that that makes you go.
Yeah, but you're a little drunk.
It's like, yeah, yeah, I kind of.
If you're a little drunk, it's whatever.
I guess that works.
Not as handsy as you get.
Well, whatever, you can have fun.
Not below the waist.
Oh, dude, that's when you really love your boys.
If you keep it above the shoulders, it's not as bad.
My home, I'm always above the waist.
I'm never below the waist, ever.
To make that clear.
What, what fighter do you think right now is doing the best and worst job to promote themselves
to promote the UFC?
You know what?
I give Makashiev's fans a lot of shit, but he promotes himself quite well.
He's always doing interviews, funny moments.
Always doing some kind of collaboration with people like Aiden.
He'll grapple with Aiden.
So he tries and he learns English for it as well.
They're funny though, the Dagestanis.
Yeah, they go viral.
Because they can shit talk too.
They can shit talk.
Yeah, they can, they can shit talk.
It's in like a sort of like baby way.
Like they have baby English and I mean where it's just like.
That's what makes it fun.
It kind of makes it funnier in that way.
Yeah.
But other than that, there ain't too many people promoting like McGregor used to
is priming to UFC, right?
Like I said, as a casual, that's been the, like, these guys need to get, and I don't know,
maybe not, but you could use some mic training or be a little bit crazier.
I think the last good press conference I saw was when it was Sugar, Strickland,
and maybe Leon Edwards and Colby or something.
Nah, who was Sugar?
Sugar said some crazy stuff to Strickland, and Strickland got fucking pissed.
Oh, it was.
Sugar Cheeto, I think.
Yeah, it was.
And it was one of those seasonal press conferences where there was gold, Sean.
That was the last press.
conference where I saw everyone get heated up there.
So I agree that doesn't happen as frequently as you'd want it to.
I think Sean said something like,
oh, at least I didn't get touched by my dad.
Yeah, and I think he said at least my dad didn't fuck me.
Oh, wow.
Okay, you remember this.
This is ingrained in your mind.
Well, that's crazy thing to say to Sean Strickland.
It is a crazy thing to say.
But yeah, there's like very few times where the guys actually talk crazy shit.
Paddy Pimlet and Dan Hooker just got into it.
Patty Pimlet's, good job.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, he's good job.
Yeah, yeah, you're saying, hey, Dan Hooker couldn't.
Oh, my God.
wrestle a rapist off his ma, lad.
He was saying that, yeah.
Couldn't wrestle a rapist of his ma'am.
But Dan Hooker wasn't in attendance, right?
No, it was on my channel.
I got a Paddy Pimley interview.
The interview he just did with Paddy.
Yeah.
Jeez, bro.
And then Dan Hooker responded back saying,
rest in peace to Paddy's friend that committed suicide.
Crazy.
Jesus.
So they're kicking off.
I think like the fighters are kicking off a little bit.
But I think with the shit-talking thing,
they're so scared of losing and ending up on like a,
when trash talking goes wrong,
viral thing where it shows all of their trash
talking and they lose because there's good
odds you lose these days. No one's really going on
crazy tricks. Topuri is doing a great job
yeah, but now he's got his fucking...
You guys called that shit. He had nothing to do
with that. You guys had a crystal
ball in that collaboration when you were saying
that's our guy. We fucking got in the ring, fought him.
What we said after is no effect.
Yeah, we hung out them all day. It was great.
I don't want to disrespect to Poria though. I mean,
I don't want to disrespect. No, he's so great
to us. People take shit out of context.
But who knows?
Best to him.
Fighters are cool.
They're cool to me.
Even Armand, I thought Armand was going to, like, immediately jump up and headbut me in the face.
Like he did in the way in with Dan Hooker, tracking me a little headbut.
But he was chill.
I think they get that most people are just shit-talking trolls online, and they kind of have to accept the world that we're...
For sure.
Well, you've got to think, what is he going to get out of attacking you?
Yeah, it's true.
Exactly, though, to be fair.
What are your fights to make this year that the UFC should make?
You've got to do MacaSep Tupuria at some time.
Yes.
That's the best.
That's the biggest fight in the UFC in terms of.
skill. Yeah. The biggest fight in the UFC and how do you think that goes? At 155, I think
Ilya's got a shot, but at 170, Macachev's too fucking freak strong. That will never have that.
At 155. That won't happen at one. How do you see that fight actually going? Like, do you think
Ilya can kill him? Looking at like Volk-Makashv and even other fights that you have with
Poria as well, I think at 55, McAshev's holding himself back. I think he's like a worse version
of himself at 55 because he's weaker. I don't even think we should talk 155 anymore. Yeah, I know.
because that's but he they wouldn't have yeah they would never do that yeah it's just a silly question
he's too big now i just think that would be the most competitive like you said 155 would be the
most competitive for both those guys but a 170 macashev should mourn it's too big other than that
you got to do alex perera moving up to heavyway or alex perera john jones but i don't
think that's going to happen either there's a lot of big fights the ufc just seems to not
want did you did you cover the alix perera tracy cortez four-day relationship broke up already right
Dude, right after she said, are you going to marry me?
Yeah, I know.
Like that clip and then like the next day or the next day.
Were they actually dating?
Yeah, they were dating, like, secretly.
And then they went public with it.
And then she sent the day before she made a post where she asked him in Spanish, will you marry me?
And he kind of went, uh, chamo, like, yes for him.
In his language, he just gave him like a yes.
And then she posted it online.
That might have been the reason where he's like, well, you're the hottest female UFC fighter of all time.
Mackenzie Dern.
There's no doubt about it.
I think Page is pretty hot.
Mackenzie Dern.
Also, Tracy's up there too.
Ronda Rousey was kind of bad.
Yeah, Ronda Rousey was kind of bad in like a butch like,
or she could submit me type of way.
I think Tracy's fucking fine.
You don't think Dern?
Dern is hot.
Dern's hot, but, you know.
What about Paige?
There was another one we saw her fight.
Paige Van Zanzan.
She's not active anymore, Stine.
He kept up.
I thought you said historically.
Oh, of all time, maybe.
I'm talking active on the roster, you know what I mean.
But I think Norma Jamont's up there.
There's a lot of other ones.
Do you want to get into the fucking...
I made a...
It was my first viral video.
I did a women's UFC fighter.
Hottest women's UFC fighter tier list.
And it popped off.
That was your favorite ring girl?
I did.
Favorite ring girl, Brooklyn, Ren?
Is she current?
Yeah, she's...
Of all time.
Have you hung around with these girls in real life?
Yeah.
Not the new ones, really.
I hung out with red.
Those ones you just mentioned.
Ariani is the best ring girl of all time.
No questions asked.
Yeah.
I feel like this.
I went to...
I went to a UFC Expo, I think, when I was in eighth grade.
Yeah.
And I fucking lined up to meet Ariani.
You're an OG fan of the UFC then.
You know it from a while.
I've been watching since like 2008, like, Spike TV days.
Not like super, super, not when they were fucking have, when they had geese in the ring.
Well, you're not 50 years old.
Spike TV days.
Yeah.
You're as hardcore as you can be then for that time.
So you're watching Anderson Silver and GSP.
You're more hardcore than me.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I had a fucking that.
What was the brand he was repin?
Oh, the fucking ghee.
I don't know what the brand.
Yeah, I don't know.
I had a GIST piece of.
Yeah.
That was, that was a good era.
See, I'm a McGregor era hardcore fan.
Me too.
Yeah.
That changed in the UK.
You have no idea how McGregor changed the game.
In school corridors, people are saying, you'll deal with not.
They would go, everyone was going off.
Anything McGregor said, school corridors, six form people would be saying it and stuff like that.
I like, any friendship group you were in that.
I like you'll do what you're told.
Yeah.
Have you ever talked to him on DMs or anything?
No, I've never talked to McGregor.
He put me in his documentary on a clip, but he's, but he's a friend of you
entry on a clip, but he don't, you don't talk to me in the DMs.
I don't really talk to many fighters.
I've gone back and forth for Tom Aspenal, Paddy Pimlet.
Most of the UK guys will entertain me.
But most of the fighters don't want much to do with me, to be honest with you.
Should we do biggest stud?
Or just chicks.
Biggest stud in the US.
Fighters? No.
It was the most overrated fighter.
Most overrated fighter right now.
And underrated.
Oh, it's hard to say.
I think Diego Lopez, aside from Volk, if Volk dips, Lopez will rule that division.
Underrated.
Yeah, he's underrated.
It's like, overrated now.
I mean, Joshua Van's fucking kind of a fake champ right now, right?
Okay, besides 1 25.
Besides one, okay, so they're irrelevant to you.
No, I never said.
That fight happened.
Marab was great, but I do think there was like a, he's dominating these guys.
And I was like, that was a fucking close 48, 47 decision.
He's not dominating these guys.
So that's why I think Yam beat him, because there was this sort of image.
But he's not overrated.
I think he kind of was a little bit.
Marab?
Well, I think, as far as, as far as that's crazy.
He's dominated.
No, but that's how good he is.
Right.
Because he's overrated, but he's still really, really great.
But it's just the people were acting like he's going to dominate Jan.
And I was thinking, in his last three fights, two of them have been pretty close decisions.
I don't think that was smart of him to fight four times in one year.
That's too much.
There's a reason fighters fight once a fucking year these days.
I hate that fighters complain about fighter pay and show up once a year.
That's the craziest thing to me.
One time a year, you're showing up and the pay's not good enough.
That's crazy.
You show up to work once a year.
All of a sudden you ain't getting paid enough, but you can sit on your ass for eight months.
Let's do a group prediction.
Let's do predict our White House cards and see who gets the closest.
What are we going to make a little bet?
They're saying seven title fights.
No, that's not going to happen.
It's not going to happen.
I don't believe that.
I don't think so.
Who said that?
Trump said it.
Trump.
No, yeah, Trump and Dana have been talking about it.
I don't think seven.
Trump would just say that.
Trump just says shit and then Dana like sees it on his phone.
He's got to, yeah.
He's like, oh, fuck.
Yeah.
I've kind of got to agree with this now.
White House?
Main event
Who's gonna be the main event?
I think it'll be Elya versus the winner of Pimlet Gaechia.
Especially if Gajee wins
because that's a US fighter.
You think that'll be the main event?
I do think that, yeah.
Because who else is it going to be?
All these fighters don't want to fucking do it.
Why?
Because it's like they don't.
It's also got to be an American.
A lot of them don't like the wild.
Dana said he doesn't want all Americans on the card.
No, but I think it just wants to make it.
But you definitely want.
I think there might be.
You want one.
Sorry, go ahead.
Yeah.
Because at the beginning, we were wondering, is it going to be all Americans?
But he stated that it's going to be, no, he just wants to make the most badass card.
I wonder if there's any foreign fighters that don't want to fight at the White House.
It's got to mean McGregor is the main event.
McGregers is not going to mean.
He's irrelevant now in terms of the fight world, though, don't you?
No.
For the White House card, you got to have like a pinnacle top level fight in the UFC, right?
See, that's strong as Alex could be in.
I would say, I would say, Ilya.
Any in Salim discuss what the fuck in.
Well, bro, that's what I'm saying.
You're talking from an expert point of view and a casual is going to, everyone's going to tune in from McGregor.
Yeah, McGreg is going to be on the card.
This is going to be on CBS.
going to be on the card. I just don't see them doing a title fight for the main event.
Yeah. You need a title fight. There's no doubt about it. This can't be the only card where there's no title fight. I mean, they also just analyze numbers, right? McGregor's going to do the most views.
They don't like think like that. Yeah, but I could say too. They literally look and say what is going to get the most views? They don't like say like, oh, we need a title fight. They like statistically analyze it. Yeah, but when was the last time there was a non-title fight main event? Even when there's two fighters to have a belt, but there's only one White House card. It's true. If you're, I was driving around in L.
L.A. the other day and the Paramount Plus billboard, McGregor's on it.
So you think McGregor channel a main event of the White House then?
I think there's no bigger fight than McGregor.
Yeah.
It's a White House car.
They're trying to appeal worldwide.
I guess, I guess casually.
You think with McGregor's allegations they're going to want him being on the White House main event?
Yeah, I don't think they get...
You're going to take that bad press.
They don't care.
I don't think they give a fuck.
Maybe they will.
I could see maybe McGregor doing it.
But I definitely think they want some top level.
Yeah.
UFC fights.
And plus a heavier weight class, too.
Like, it just only makes.
I think it only makes sense if you put Jones Alex's main event, Connor Chandler at Comain.
If that pushed them down and put another like Ilya and Patty as a comane, you could do that.
Yeah.
And then you could push Connor and Chandler down.
Because I mean, if you want to make these fights that are seven title fights or the best possible fights, someone has to give up, right?
Are you going to take a main event where it's like a championship fight and put Conn—you know what I'm saying?
So I don't know how they would rank it, like one, two, three, like and stuff like it, but I think—
I think for sure they need a heavier weight class as the main event.
Yeah, they do.
Do you think they're going to let Jones in the White House?
I think they have to.
I think at some point they're going to have to.
Then you can't.
But I'm just saying at some point they're probably going to have to.
Because everybody is going to be choked out.
I don't think he's going to do that.
You don't think he's going to do that?
No.
It just comes out of him.
I think he's got to be on your best behavior.
First lady's like the ultimate trophy for him.
I mean, that's like his peak, his mountain top.
Has John never responded to anything you've said?
Yeah, he has.
He called me unkempt on Twitter and then block.
me on everything. How scared would you be to see that guy in the streets? I don't think I'll be
going to Albuquerque and New Mexico anytime soon, so I think I'll be right. Say you run into him
in a grocery store, I don't know, just randomly. I think you're dead. I think I'm just going to
have to just put on an accent, maybe pretend I'm gay, so he might just sort of maybe get a bit of a weird
look about it. I don't know. He's going to have to like, I'll definitely have to rock some kind
of disguise. If I see, like, there's a few fighters where if I see him, I'm dead. Like,
who are those? John Jones.
Agastanis, right?
You think he'd hit?
Dagestan is if I like if you want to kill me just drop me in Dagestan with a parachute
I won't last an hour they'll catch me if you're in Dagestan you're fucked yeah yeah
you'd see them in the US we should have brought a good yeah maybe they might follow the
rules no Dagestan you'd be fuck yeah yeah if they drop me in Dagestan it'd be like the hills
abys they'd be just fucking crawling down the mountain it probably wouldn't even be them they'd
probably get their like yeah their army to get you right in the young ins yeah so
stony any backer at recently no I haven't just been gambling
sports. What you've been up to, mate, on the late night with Stani or whatever your podcast is
called. Is that what is? Yeah. One night with Stony. Oh, okay, sorry. No, I've just been doing it
weekly. Nice. I've been going well. Nice. I reference you a lot, Stiney. It's like a weird thing,
yeah. Dude, I'm going to be honest. I only see you on X a lot. I see you a lot. And I know of you
because of my boy who's going to beat your ass, Schmitty, Ryan Schmo. Yeah, with Sugar
Sean's boy. So that's how I discovered you. We were supposed to do so. Why the hell do you
referenced me a lot.
Because it's like a funny way to like shit on Dana for doing things that aren't promoting.
I've seen that on him.
He's probably just out of chilling with fucking Steiney from the Nel.
But don't you think,
don't you think the guy should have fun in his personal life?
You've got to balance stuff out.
It's not his fault that people bring cameras wherever he fucking goes.
It's true.
You guys bring cameras wherever he goes, I guess.
That's kind of on you a little bit.
It's a good point.
And your content out of it's a good point.
Yeah.
It's kind of not his people bring cameras while you're doing that.
But yeah, I just think, you know, there's definitely things to critique Dana.
on. But of course, you guys are his bum-tracks.
Okay, so what else? Wait, what are your other critiques?
He doesn't answer fucking questions at the press
conference at all. I've never seen it.
Ask me a UFC fight question. I'll be Dana what?
He's like the only commissioner that even does
like a press conference now. Ask me
about a fighter in the UFC and a question
about a fighter in the UFC. But no other
commissioner even answered. Wait, Celine, let's see
how his, go and ask him the quote.
Hey, Dana, so
what's going on with Olivera? What's next
for him? I know you probably
want to put him against Arm on next. What's
up with Oliver's future in the UFC?
What?
Charles Oliver?
What's going on with Charles Oliver?
I mean, come on, you guys.
We don't do the fucking matchmaking until Tuesday.
I mean, come on.
What are these fucking questions?
That's how we'll diffuse it easily.
And then that's it.
You don't get anything out of him.
We don't do the matchmaking until Tuesday.
What's next for this guys?
What?
That guy?
I don't know.
What's going on?
Anyway, somebody asked me about blackjack.
And he immediately his eyes will light up.
Enjoy it.
You'll see it twinkling in his eye.
Just mention gambling today, no?
A twinkle.
ankle will appear in his eye and it'll be like, oh, finally, I get to talk about something interesting.
I don't know.
I think he's crushed the UFC.
Yeah, yeah, he did.
But I just think it's time for something new.
You don't think it's time for like a fresh.
I think if he dipped, a lot would change.
Yeah.
Look at the free speech shit with the UFC.
Do you think of, you know, Dana's the only one that's holding that together, right?
Like when Sean Strickland goes off on a press conference and says,
Dana is the only one that is allowing that to like
still happen.
The second there's a new
head of the UFC, that person's going to
fucking break so fast.
That's a good point. That's a good point.
There's definitely things to critique Dana on when it comes.
But that, I would change the entire U.S.
There's pros and cons.
Yeah.
Obviously, I'm going to make videos doing the cons.
Dana White during COVID.
Yeah, yeah.
He might not even be a UFC.
He held it together.
There might not even be UFC, bro.
Did anyone else think Fight of Ireland was going to be?
some kind of like tropical outdoor we attended that yeah yeah that was our first year that was my
first year yeah yeah that was a crazy yeah yeah you guys got flown out for that you guys
are real in there with a ufc how they love you guys that's when we first met dana yeah yeah the first
yeah yeah the first yeah yeah the first kind of ufc experience was fucking crazy
hmm i that was kabib's last fight too against gait uh gaichi right yeah yeah yeah he cried in the ring
that was when you asked him you you have dog yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah right that was funny right
That was, yeah.
That resurfaced.
I do want to say, though,
Kia actually made a really good point,
because these fighters say some crazy shit.
They do.
And Dana gives them all the freedom in the world,
and it's the only sport where you have sponsors.
Look at how PR train if you watch the NFL NBA,
how those guys answer questions.
The UFC guys will give you whatever they actually believe in.
And that's fucking rare,
and that's also very risky.
I think the whole UFC changes when Dana's gone.
And hasn't Joe Rogan said if,
if Dana ever leaves, he's out of there too?
Like, it seems like.
You don't like Joe either.
Yeah.
Yeah, yeah.
I don't mind Joe.
I just insult him.
About what?
It's funny to crack Joe's.
I'm just rapsing with boys, you know what I mean?
But I absolutely agree that Dana White is good for the UFC.
But there's definitely things that you could be doing better.
But I look at things from like a hardcore perspective.
Right.
When I'm all the way in on the UFC and I'm watching it every weekend, I'm like,
this could have been done better.
That could have been pulled off way better.
Give me a face-to-face interview between the fighters.
Face-to-face.
I totally agree with you.
Absolutely agree.
I'd be lit.
I love watching those.
I wonder why they don't.
That's on Dana to sort of be like, oh, that's an interesting idea.
Let me...
There's got to be a reason he doesn't do that, though.
I think he's worried that they'll, like, throw hands and then the commission might call something off.
Yeah.
Which is a huge...
Which is a valid point.
Think about, like, a bad blood matchup that's happened recently, so him.
Yeah, there hasn't been a crazy beef press conference.
No.
Like, imagine if Paddy Pimlet, Ilya, Tupuria was sat across a table.
I think that will be the biggest fight in a while if that happens.
Yeah.
That'd be like a Walmart, McGregor...
I think it'll be the closest to McGregor-Cabee.
McGregor-Habib type of thing, yeah.
You think that's bigger than Islam, Ilya?
No.
It'll be bigger in the West, but worldwide is crazy, dude.
There's so many more people in the world than we think.
Miami's not even a fucking city.
I've been going around Miami recently.
It's barely a city.
Being from London, I know New York must be crazier.
Yeah, in terms of density.
Like building-wise, right?
Like skyline.
Yeah.
But if you can get across a city in 20 minutes by car, is not a real city.
That doesn't count.
So there's a lot.
There's a bigger world out there.
What's your favorite things about Miami?
Anything?
I've been treking around.
I went to the,
Vince Quaya thing, that whole area.
I probably butcher that name.
I don't even know what the fuck that is.
My boy, you gotta hit the beach and get some sun, I think.
Yeah, I can't do sun, brother.
I'm white as they come.
People say I'm pure.
You guys have been hitting the sunlight crazy.
Yeah, it's been sunny.
Yeah, it has been sunny.
You've been living in Miami for a while, Kyle?
Two years.
Yeah, that's cool.
I like it.
Yeah.
I saw a lot of comments.
Everyone was very surprised that you were kind of like in shape.
I'm not in shape, though.
You look strong versus...
That's what all the responses were.
Yeah, yeah.
Like, you did good.
I mean, I'm in decent shape, I guess.
I don't really do gym too much.
I think I'm just big.
Did it ever get to you or bother you that people would kind of identify you as like this
fat guy behind the computer commenting and on something that they could never do?
I did love it.
That was good to me.
I don't know, they, I got, so my whole thing is like super chat donations.
So people hit me with $2 this, $2.00 that.
The amount of donations I got for like, you're in a wheelchair, ha ha, disabled.
When I wasn't, it was crazy.
I might have to like donate it to like a disabled chariot.
What was your clear my karma on that?
What made you so big?
Like, what was your breaking moment?
It's been over time.
I don't even know how to describe what my blow-up moment was.
I just kept getting into these fighter interactions, I guess.
And the more fighters interact to me, I kept somehow winning the exchange online,
because I'm good at shit-talking.
But I think that's a UK thing.
Yeah.
Where we're kind of good at making shit-talk sound a bit funny.
Yeah.
And make people laugh with it.
So, I don't know, fighters would go after me,
and I'd have all the time in the world while they're busy on a flight or something.
and then within eight hours, I've conjured up a storm online,
and then they're just, just their phones blowing up.
So it was just like a, it became like a thing.
Every couple of months of fire would shit on me,
and I'd go back at him, and it would be like a huge thing.
What's your, like, ultimate goal with, like, your career and stuff?
Sounds like you want to be Dana.
I'd like to be Dana.
Yeah, I'd like to be the new Dana White.
That'd be a good job for me.
I think I'd handle that pretty well on the free speech.
I think I'd do all the good things that Dana does,
but with like a young passion.
But I think I could host a good post-fight press conference as well.
but I'd probably get into some trouble though
the second they put me in the UFC
they're gonna bring up the fucking Marab rage
clip and all of this other shit
like imagine me trying to legitimately promote
Agastana. Yeah, that
would happen. They just post all isn't this
you? And it's just me and my fucking
beanie on going nuts in my
bedroom, trashing these guys.
I don't think that could work. There's
no way that could work. What about like the most
controversial
that's not obvious but controversial
ruling after a fight where you were like
yo, this guy fucking won.
Yeah, controversial.
And they didn't give it to him.
Reyes beat Jones.
Three, two.
That was a crazy man.
What about Gustuson won?
No, he clearly lost.
Am I too much of a casual to say, I think Volk beat Islam?
Yeah.
Macchchev won that four one.
Macchever won that four one.
I think he won four one.
Yeah, four one.
But I get, the rounds were close, though.
But the thing is about Macchchev, Volk is that there were moments in that fight where
Macachev would, like, lose balance with the shots.
And it would be like, oh, Volk did something crazy.
But really, it was a bit like, oh, Macchierier.
The first round, when he hit him in the chat.
and he backed up.
Yeah.
That was like, oh, because I mean, you don't see that happen to them, right?
So it's like them being in a competitive fight, it's like, oh, that's not supposed to happen, right?
Because they've been dominating for so long.
It's like Jones Gustafson.
Like, Gusufson was just doing good, so therefore he's winning.
Do you think he didn't train for that?
Or do you agree with Joe Rogan?
No, I don't agree with Joe Rogan.
He didn't even fucking train.
And Joe Rogan's fucking.
He's got some smooth-haired MMA takes.
Yeah.
So what are three things he says that's just like, bro, Joe's just,
got to stop.
Joe Rogan,
fucking,
basically Joe Rogan's like a,
you know,
Woody toy?
Uh-huh.
Pull the back string and
there's a snake in my boot.
He has like five MMA sayans whenever he talks about it.
Like,
how did he ever make 185?
God,
he's talking about Alex Pereira again.
You're like,
fucking hell out.
Shut up about this fucking,
how did he make 185 thing?
And then he'll go off about John Jones
not even train him for fights when that's just not true.
He developed a spinning back kick.
Yeah,
he just invented a spinning back kick at 37 years of age.
I don't even know what Joe Rogan's on sometimes.
I think he's got early stages dementia if I had to go.
What about steel cups?
Oh, yeah.
He can help with an arm bar.
People forget, man.
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When he impersonates like, I don't know, that shit's funny to me.
He does a lot of that type of thing. He can have an arm, and he's still using steel cups.
He asked that everything. He'll do the eyes too. He'll be like, dude.
I know, man.
Thinking I'm moving on, boy.
It's funny, man.
I should be all out, man.
I find that funny.
How do you feel about,
I know you guys are boys now, but sugar?
Chatting to his guy yesterday, yeah, me and Sean talk quite a bit.
I think it's the Schmitty connection.
Yeah.
You know?
Now I'm in with Schmitty.
I'm kind of in with Sean O'Malley,
but Sean O'Malley's cool.
I think he,
if he doesn't win this next one, it's done.
He's even said that, right, if he loses this next one.
I don't think he wants to be the guy that goes out losing.
Yeah.
But he's in a tough division, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Especially to be a star striker and you got Umar coming up now and Marab's already there.
And Al, even Al, I didn't think he was going to be Aljo.
He should go to 145, I think.
That was a crazy fight.
The Aljo Amali thing.
You guys were there, right?
Steve threw him the fucking Happy Dad.
I bet you were hyped about that shit.
Yeah.
I bet you were hyped.
I mean, no one thought he was going to win, right?
Yeah, I didn't think so.
Some crafty guys picked him to win out there.
Yeah.
Because if Aljo was doing the activity thing as well, he fought three months before, you step back in there.
But I don't know.
I think I'm happy.
I mean, if Shuga wins, he might be on the White House card versus Yon, though.
They will make that fight.
That's on the card.
See, I mean, that's a decent card, I reckon.
Imagine that.
Pimlet beats Gaitia.
Main event, Ilya, Tepurria, Paddy Pimlet,
co-main event, Sean O'Malley, Pio and two for the belt.
Now we're cooking some Adasania on the card, maybe,
versus another guy at middle way.
Jones and McGregor will both be on the card.
McGregor's going to be on now.
I just don't think he'll be the main event.
I don't think so either.
Yeah.
You think McGregor would fight and not be the main event?
I don't think he won't.
If he made a comeback?
They like putting, they don't like diminishing the belts by putting them.
But if there was no other titles on the card, I can see McGregor be in the main event.
But if there's world championships on the card, he might be on the main card, third position down, co-main event, something like that.
Imagine McGregor and Islam on the same press conference.
That was insane.
How much would you personally pay?
Would you donate to see Khabib McGregor too?
I don't want to see McGregor go through that again.
I was crying the first time.
I watched that live with my dad.
Yeah?
Yeah.
I watched that live with my dad and he was in my ear saying,
why doesn't he just get up?
I was like,
shut the fuck up,
dude,
I'm watching my hero die in front of me.
In round two,
I was in,
I was in near tears watching it happen to McGregory,
especially out of the UK and Ireland as well.
It was the same thing,
right?
McGregor and Islam,
that's not a possibility at the way house?
I mean,
fucking crazy as shit has happened,
but I'm highly doubt.
Imagine,
imagine there was an outside the ring fight at the White House.
That could happen.
Yeah,
they could just like,
you know,
the UFC's new game plan for fights that ain't going to happen
is just like,
have him cross paths in a hotel corridor
and see,
and just make sure there's a camera there for it,
you know what I mean?
That happened with Armand and Teporia, right?
Yeah, yeah, they got into it.
Tupuria said he slapped him,
but he didn't slap him.
That was a weird moment.
He didn't slap almond in that thing.
He put his hand,
like he caressed his neck with his hand
and then said that he slapped him,
but a video came out.
You'd think that that'd be orchestrated better.
You think they want that kind of shit to happen?
Yeah, I think they try and make that shit happen.
Sometimes they don't want to have a fight before the fight
because that ruins it.
Or ruin the man.
Someone gets caught,
the fight's off.
Didn't Strickland go at somebody?
Or, and what's his name?
Oh, Dupli and Shriclin.
He's talking about that.
No, he was fighting a fighter.
What's good with Duplessi?
Oh, yeah, I went to train with Dupli in South Africa.
Oh, you did?
Yeah, he'll be back.
He's a tough one, though, because now he's lost.
It's kind of like, I think there's a lot of people that are looking at like, huh, I could do that to him.
Because the Chimea fight was like it seemed too easy to be.
No one's beating him at that division.
Yeah, I know.
Chimayev's not one 85.
I think Chameh's the best pound for pound fighter in the UFC.
He might not have earned that yet, but you're definitely, if you're saying he hasn't earned it, but I think he is.
Yeah.
Do you see the way he fucking wrestled John Jones?
Yeah, he's just strong.
In terms of moving up, but Makashev right now is top pound for pound.
Not taking that.
JPM's good.
I know, I know Chameh and Makashev make these guys look like fucking shit in their fights, but they are really top level fighters, you know.
Top.
They're top world champs, crazy win streaks.
DDP beat streaks.
Strickland twice, Adasanya, Whittaker before that.
People were talking about if you beat Chameh, is there, like, goat conversations on the horizon for DDP?
And then Chameh just fucking molests him in the fucking cage for five rounds straight.
I thought De Plet's going to win.
Yeah, a little bit too big for Chameh after the Burns one.
Salaam was telling me DePlessy all week.
I had to hear it all week.
You've got to fade his locks.
Bro.
In the UFC.
Stani.
You're talking about Greg and Islam fighting.
Not even in the same division.
Well, I don't know.
So he just reads the coffee.
And then whatever the comments say that from the hardcore M.M.M.
fan base and size, I just thought, okay, you know, maybe he'll stuff some takedowns and keep it up on the feet.
And you know how awkward he is.
A lot of people thought that.
Like, Duplessis finds a way to win.
Yeah.
I thought, I thought, but can't.
Dude, no one's beating that guy, man.
Yeah.
I get into it.
Like, I was like, oh, Whitaker's had like a lower jaw surgery.
So that's probably why he got re-naked like that in round one.
I don't think DuPlessi is going to have that happen to him.
But then Chameh just goes out there and just makes him look silly.
that fight. I think you'll be back though. I think only any only competition for
Chameh is going up in light heavyweight. Yeah. Honestly, there's nothing else. He's just
gonna dominate and be 28 and 0 by the end of his career. You think he chases
Pereira at two or five? I want to see that. I would like to see that after Magamad
after that fight I would like to because it's like dude I mean he beat a Dagestani
right so I want to see with that size of Pereira finding a guy like Hamza
it'd be interesting I think. Was that unprofessional?
Gabe blaring music out of his phone there without being on mute.
That was a Snapchat from a dude for sure.
Snapchat from a dude, for sure.
Yeah.
Like some guy in his car, like.
Yeah.
Are you two still having this like crazy feud between or is that you guys above it now?
We fought twice.
I've knocked him both.
Oh yeah, I saw you knock him out.
That was a crazy.
What do you think of my fighting ability?
I think MMMA would be a little closer.
Emily.
Yeah.
Well, shit.
He's got 200 pounds on me, bro.
That's what I'm saying.
Well, still, you can't.
You saw me take the pun from Teporia.
I fought Tuporia.
You fought Tupuria.
Yeah, you got knocked out.
He was out.
He was actually swinging like pretty decently big shots on you guys.
I'm surprised you.
He got hit hard too.
You know, big CEO Kyle from Nelk.
I mean, I'm surprised you even risked to.
I had to do it.
Yeah, you do.
I did it with Volk too.
Yeah, but Volk's nice.
But he went like, he was hitting me, but to Poria, yeah, he actually hit us pretty hard.
Like I got like saw stars.
Yeah, that's a tough one.
He nearly knocked your fucking veneers out, man.
I know.
That was a tough shot.
You definitely saw stars after that.
He hit him, he hit you in like the side of the head.
Yeah, it was hard.
I rated when you fought Jake Paul's
Lackey. What's his little
man servant? I don't even remember.
Yeah, you don't even know that guy.
Three and O, my boy.
Three and O. You're undefeated, three and O.
Yeah, one in the parking lot. Have you ever thrown in the parking lot?
No, I've never thrown in a parking lot.
People don't start fights with me. I haven't had any fights when I was younger.
Never.
No. I had a couple scuffles at school, though.
I threw a guy into a door once.
For what reasoning?
A moment, dude. They were talking about that one for like days.
Is that on camera or no?
No, it's not on camera, no.
Because I'd like to see if that actually went down that way.
No, this, so I did taekwondo when I was younger.
This other taekwondo guy charged up a kick at me, ran at me.
He went, I'm through this kick in me.
I grabbed his leg and swung him into the door.
That's like my claim to fame and like my street fighting years.
Dude, dude, it was crazy.
What else do you like to do for fun?
Do you drink or no?
I don't drink.
No, I used to do a lot.
I used to drink and smoke and do all of that.
But once I got a glimpse to like, oh shit, this can actually be something.
I was like, fuck everything else.
So how you monetize your stuff now by more like live streaming?
Live streaming.
I don't know.
You've probably seen the super chats on my live.
It's every second.
Bing, Bing, Bing, Bing, 510.
You upload a lot, man.
Yeah, yeah.
Not recently.
Even at YouTube.
Since 2018, late 2018.
There's been a slow build.
But I'm set.
I'm set now.
If I live minimalistic, I'm set.
So now I'm just sort of chasing luxury.
You've got to come to a fight though.
I've got to come to a fight.
What kind of fight should I go to then?
What ones are you going to soon?
We're going to go to this one.
one. The first one.
The first one.
Vegas. Oh, yeah. UFC 324?
Yeah.
Yeah. What one could I go?
I know they're doing UFC London in March.
I could go to a UFC London.
But I know I'm getting jumped at a UFC event by Dagestanis.
They're going to be hopping the railings.
Yeah, blackie here.
They're like signaling each other.
They'll come storming down like fucking shield in WW here.
Gabe does all the ticket requests.
Nice.
What are you to go to the badge?
That's crazy.
You've never been a one.
Yeah, I'll go to UFC.
Maybe I'll go to UFC London.
Why don't you just wear disguise?
What?
like a fucking fake glasses
just shave the beer
some shit
shave the beard
that would be
that would be a banger video
on your channel
yes and you ask people
what you think of
mMA guru
yes if we're there though
yeah yeah i'm telling the daggies
that that's you
because for entertainment
we got to be entertained
wow stony wheezzling away
around
oh wow don't you dare use that word
with me my boy
why is that a trigger word for you
weasles
I hear it a lot
I've heard it
I've heard it quite a bit
well i want to give the fans
what they want to make the UFC bigger
you want to get m m mhmah guru
gets jumped by every
Dagestani in the arena. That sounds like a good headline.
Yeah, that's a crazy headline, dude.
I like that the way you think.
Yeah. And then you'll get a couple reaction videos and then there's more money for you.
What else you guys got going on, Stanley? Any of our big guests coming up soon on your pod?
No, not really.
You've become something in this, right?
Everyone who joins Nelk, they get shit on heavily. I know Sillim. There's definitely a
salim bullshit. At first. This is probably going to be your best episode in the comments.
W. Silim, he actually has shit on a lot. Yeah, yeah. I can see that a little bit of it.
Whenever someone joins Nelk, they get roasted, definitely.
Because I think everyone that watches wants to join Nelk.
Yeah, they want to be the guy and they feel like they can do it better.
They would love to join, so they're like, why does this guy get to join?
Yeah, like, why does this guy, lemur looking do to join milk?
That's what they're thinking, right?
So, yeah.
King Julian from Madagascar type of vibes.
So they were calling you a Lima?
Like, no, no, I'm just saying, like, yeah, like, they're just like, why is he in and I'm not?
They might give you a couple of use of limbs for understanding MMA stuff.
you know, what's that bullshit question from,
well, dude, Macachiev McGregor.
I make it really clear that I don't know,
I just watch for fun.
Is that okay with you?
Do I have to know every fighter, their weight?
Yeah, he's traveling.
I'm talking about the comments.
Oh, no, but I'm just saying, like,
I've seen your stuff, obviously,
but there is a strong audience that look at us,
maybe me specifically.
Like, this kid doesn't know shit.
And I can understand when we're at the fight
and we've got good seats or like you said,
we're hanging out with Dana.
For a diehard fan, they might not like that.
Yeah,
Because you're like privileged despite not being too big of fans.
Yes.
And we get some privileges that other people don't.
So I understand that.
I mean, personally for me, every time I'm out of fight still, I'm still like,
yo, I don't know how the fuck I'm here.
Yeah.
Like, even not, I know a great relationship we have with Dana,
but I'm still every time.
I'm like, this is fucking crazy.
Yeah, it's every time.
Doesn't it feel like a bit like a simulation when you guys do that type of shit though?
Yeah.
When you finally get there?
Like when, uh, Steve.
Five Island shit was the craziest, like, craziest two weeks of my life.
Is that when it all took off for you guys?
You guys became proper.
You know, we had our following.
You've been watching.
Yeah.
We had our following.
But I think when we got, let's say, mainstream more where everyone know us was, I think, probably that.
Because we went from Fight Island.
And in the same two weeks, we were on Air Force One with Trump.
Yeah.
So you're still cool with Demetius Johnson?
Oh, my God.
The whole podcast cancellation of the DJ pod.
Was that because the Dagestani and that because he's cool with them?
Yeah.
Yeah.
I get it, though.
I actually get it.
Yeah.
He basically said,
yo,
you got to tone it down
if you're going to continue
on the pod with me.
And I get that
because he trains with these guys.
Yeah.
So he's going to walk into a gym
with like Dagestani guys.
And then it's going to be like,
hey,
you guru say,
we are imbred,
do you agree?
And he goes,
I don't know,
man.
Yeah,
that's perfect.
They're going to 100%
corner him and ask him that
in the gym.
These guys don't play about that
disrespect.
So I was like,
no,
no, no.
What do you guys think
about the current live stream
is like a cloud,
and all of these guys coming up because you were in that position a couple years ago and now there's this new generation
it's a whole new world now kick stream it's it's tough to keep up with it's clipping culture has just
completely changed the game yeah it's kind of shit though don't you think kind of like one big
reality show i think now and everyone has their different like the reality show airs on cloud
stream and that airs on this stream it's just like the way that i look at it is just over the
years filming with nilk we'd have to put it we would put in like a week or two of filming and then
you get the final product and nowadays you can just go stream daily
and go get that same virality.
So you almost don't need to put in that crazy traveling effort,
collab effort anymore to get that same kind of notoriety.
I kind of see the clips of these guys,
and I think, oh, this might be like,
this seems like an entertaining situation.
And then you watch their stream,
and it's like, oh, that came after an hour
of just the most boring shit I've ever seen in my entire life.
There's a lot of them that are pretty funny, though.
They are, some of them are funny.
Aidan's good, neon's really good.
I think Cloud's pretty funny.
Yeah, Aiden and Neon.
You find them in,
entertaining in themselves neon especially i do i think and he's also dude he's one of the hardest
working guys i'm honest i'm not watching a full stream unless it's something like a crazy
ass collab yeah but i'll see their clips and i think they're i think they're funny
i mean clav some of the shit he says they're just saying absurd shit now though too right yeah
they're just saying i don't it's entertaining though i don't believe anything he says that clav guy
what in one regard i've met him before you don't agree with like looks maxing well i don't know
maybe i should fucking agree with it a little bit to be honest of you i could use some of that shit but um
I just feel like clav is, uh, he definitely says some shit just to like know that people are going to dunk on him for it.
Bone smashing.
I'll tell you what.
I agree with you.
But he does everything he says.
Yeah?
Yeah.
How do you know?
I went to his place.
Oh, and in that moment going to his place, everything he says is now true.
Well, we talked about it without all the podcast shit.
And yeah, I think so, yeah.
He stands on that bone smashing shit.
I actually kind of agree of that.
What does that mean?
He smashes his bones to get his jaw line better.
Oh, with what?
With a hammer.
He told me his mom used to come in his room and confiscate the hammer.
He's like getting jaw surgery or somewhere.
He's moving his jaw like.
I don't believe he's getting that.
That would be crazy.
I do think there's like a hint of truth and then they just make it the most extreme thing ever.
You're not going to change your look that dramatically off of doing it.
Maybe you can make some like minute changes to yourself by doing that type of shit.
But I don't know.
that's some that's some crazy shit that's crazy have you guys ever tried helping on test or anything
like that in your time test thought about it every day my life but no have you no no never
i can never yeah i have this weird thing where i'm gonna be the guy that dies even when you're
younger and your friends are doing illegal shit and you're like i just know if i did that the police
are going to pull up around the corner like um it's like this weird main character thing where
if it's gonna happen it'll happen to me paranoid so i'm not risking that shit yeah who's one streamer
you like and one you don't like.
I've never watched a stream.
You ever sat there and watched like a full live as it happens thing?
Kaisenat, Drewski, and Kevin Hart, and I will tell you it was one of the most
entertaining things.
I thought I'd watch 15 minutes.
I watched like three hours.
Wow, dude.
What the fuck?
What you have to say about that?
Computer Warrior.
You sat there and watched a whole Kaisenat.
How old are you, Stine?
All right, here we go.
Then you sat there and watched the whole Kaisenat.
So here we go.
Wow.
But you're not.
This is the most entertaining thing I've seen.
No, I didn't say that.
I said I thought I'd watch 15 minutes.
I watched three hours, but you have to, like, you have to look at it.
Kai, Kevin Hart, Jersey.
They're all massive personalities on the internet.
Yeah.
So them all being together was entertaining.
They're pretty funny together.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I've never watched any streams like that.
You know, I find quite funny.
Maybe you should have them on here.
You know, Ed Matthews, H.S. Tiki to talk.
Yeah.
They have some funny.
They're UK guys, right?
Yeah, they are UK guys.
You met Ed.
I met Ed.
I met Ed.
You fucked with Ed.
Yeah.
You fucked with Ed?
I do.
Yeah.
There's also the risk when they go out and stream.
like those guys getting fights and shit that's i don't know how these more more these streamers ain't in
jail but i feel like live streaming is just like makes you immune to the law in some of these cases
and you're kind of like you're just going out looking for an altercation right yeah they're
definitely looking for because that's what goes viral yeah it's an interesting world
aiden's boy yesterday was fucking in a shooting oh i was on stream for that yeah like it's
bizarre a lot in the car yeah where he bro that you're also giving up your location so there's
And when a lot of these streamers now are kind of talking shit
with starting beefs with people
and they go out and they stream
and you can find out where you are
if you aim the camera a certain way.
But I thought that was fake.
I was sitting there laughing on stream
and apparently one of them got shot in their heads.
They were like...
Yeah, they're down on the far right on the right.
Yeah.
So that's really bad look for me, I think.
I thought it, you know,
I thought it was all like a fake show.
Like, oh, really, someone got fucking shot in the head.
Cool, what's on the next episode of Aidan Ross?
someone else going to get shot in their leg this time.
It's tough to, like, decipher what's real and what's not.
Yeah.
You don't really know until the next day, but, I mean, Clive hit somebody with a car.
And he's good because it was streamed.
Yeah, I don't know.
No, right?
He's like, is he dead?
Yeah, I hope so.
Yeah, I hope, yeah, that's crazy.
How many people, when you do your live streams, how many people are in there?
On like a daily thing, not that many.
I feel like I'm way, my fame is like, I don't have fame.
I'm kind of, I'm not relevant.
but for some reason I'm relevant in like the really weirdly right niches.
Yes.
Because everyone watches the UFC.
So I don't think I'm like in any way relevant.
But I'm on like, why the fuck am I on full send?
I have like 3K viewers on like a regular live day.
And then when I go on the fight companions, that's when it goes crazy.
That's when I got 20, 30, 40K.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
That's a lot.
Yeah.
That's kind of weird to imagine.
Like the Tom Aspenal Cyril Garm thing when he got eye poked, I fucking fluctuated from
25K to about.
41K. What's next for him?
Tom Asper now, I mean, getting his fucking vision back,
bumping into shit at the moment, probably.
You're going to have to definitely get his vision back.
That's a big thing.
How bad do you want to get at Nina Drama?
Yeah, what's up with you?
I know you find her attractive.
Yeah, she's hot. I'm straight.
I'm not fucking retired.
Do you guys have some? I think you guys went at each other, right?
Yeah, we went at each other.
What'd you go at her for?
Oh, yeah.
What was it? Yeah, yeah. Honestly, explain.
Is this like a thing where you don't think you could get her,
so you just have no choice but to go at her?
No.
Oh, my God.
things where I just said, because I can't fuck her, I'll insult her massively.
But she said, I basically made a fat joke about this women reporter who was fat.
And as a fat person, I think that's like my word.
So it's like our culture.
So no one's going to tell me who I can and can't call fat.
It's like the M word salim, you know what I mean?
Like I have to give people to, it's our culture.
No one's going to dictate to me wherever or not I can call her fat.
But she had a meltdown about it.
So she had a meltdown saying I'm the worst person.
I was a shame we have to share the earth with you.
I was like, I made a fat joke about a woman.
That's not that bad.
And then you're hanging around with John Jones, who put hands on women.
Like, where your morality really lies is crazy.
So she started trashing me.
So I just made a video just exposing that she's a hypocrite.
Most of my videos exposing these guys are just like,
this is where you're a hypocrite,
mixed in with some, like, colorful words that are descriptive of some things.
So I called her some names.
And then she cried in a hotel room.
She sent a video basically in a hotel room with, like,
tears in her eyes. She sent it to you or she posted it. She posted it on Twitter, but it was
directed at, man, you know who you are. This one's for you. It was kind of hot, to be honest
of you. In like a weird way, it was kind of hot. But yeah, she started in, like, trashing me in
this, like, 10 minute long crying session. I didn't even make a response to that one, though,
because I felt like that. Okay, so being the UFC expert, you don't think she does a good
job with her interviews and the popularity for the sport, or you don't like that?
I think her interviews are good. M. M.A. Media's, most of the, you probably know this, right, about
the press conferences.
And most MMA media members are on the short bus, I reckon.
Like,
they have some proper backwards brains.
They're so dumb with the questions that they are.
So I think Nina does provide some kind of difference.
Yeah.
She gets eyeballs.
She definitely gets eyeballs.
Her IG fucking views go crazy.
She gets like six,
five million views per minute.
Even more.
That is insane.
And it's not even like a funny video sometimes.
You'll post like a mobile game ad style short on Instagram.
Yeah, and you'd get like four.
Well, I think a lot of the fans also find her very attractive.
Yeah, but there's a lot of attractive women, and they're not getting fucking 40 million views.
But they're talking, she's talking about their favorite sport.
That's true. That's true.
Don't you think there's also like a bit of like a fan?
Like, oh, I wonder if the fight is fucking her type of thing.
I think everyone adds into it.
Thanks about that.
Is that what you think about when you see anina drama vid?
No, I don't.
No.
So not every bit.
That's probably part of her allure.
It is her allure.
She's, like, attractive around the most men on the plan.
Didn't Tom Aspinall ask her if she's ever been fingered or something?
some shit. That was crazy.
Yeah.
That was absurd.
What did he say about that
after? I mean, what was it
like? Because that's reasoning for that line.
There was like a reason for it to be fair.
Yeah, why? They were doing an interview any way.
You ever been fingered by an MMR fighter before?
What would it take? Not even banged.
Yeah, he's like, what would it say? I think finger.
I think finger is.
Fingered is more aggressive than banged.
Yeah, it is. It's almost more.
Fingered's just like, well.
It was less consensual in a weird way.
Like, I don't know how that that evolved.
I was real filed when he came out.
But yeah, the reasoning he gave for it is that before the interview, she said,
oh, I get loads of DMs, like asking me crazy questions.
They were like talking about this off camera.
And she was saying some of them asked me things like if I've ever been fucked by MMA fighters or fingered by them.
So in the interview, you went, have you ever been fingered by an MMR?
What would it take?
And then, yeah, what would it take?
That's crazy.
What would it take is a crazy?
He was a crazy ad on.
But he was referencing the crazy questions on Instagram.
But obviously, it just came off.
The context doesn't.
If Strickland was an NBA player, he'd be gone.
He'd be overseas.
He'd be going to.
Yeah, he'd be playing in China real quick.
Well, I think about that too, because when I, like, when I pay attention to, like, Dylan
Dennis and the Logan Paul buildup, Danis is saying some crazy stuff.
And then I remember when we were at the Colby Covington, Leon Edwards, presser, he made the comment about his dad.
And there's such a, like, divide between.
That was crazy.
That was hard to watch.
I thought it was a little too far.
I like Kobe, but it was like, damn, bro.
And you saw how Leon reacted.
He was hurt by that.
But then you have 50% of the MMA fans saying it's part of the fight game.
And then fighters saying, dude, you took that way too far.
It can still be part of the fight game, but be too far, I think.
Well, that's what I'm allowed to say it, but you can also say it's too far.
What's your opinion?
Well, on Colby saying, we're going to meet your dad in hell when we're there or something like that.
Yeah.
That was just, you know what it is about Colby?
It's just such a blunt line.
And it's not even creative.
Like, I'm just going to, you know, drag you to the seventh layer of hair.
Hell.
And he corrects it in that on the moment way.
Maybe we'll say, what's up to your dad?
That's a crazy too far moment.
But then he loses the fight.
And it's like, oh, wow, Leon got his own back.
People have him winning that, huh?
Yeah, because Edwards has been out grappled a few times before.
But I had Leon Edwards winning that one because if Usman can't do it, can Colby do it?
That's crazy.
Edwards was, like, beating all these, like, really great names.
And now you look at him and you think,
Man.
Well, that's how quickly the sport changes.
You just got knocked out, right?
Remember we watched that?
The head kick?
He did.
And then from there, we're like, okay,
those one's going to get it back.
And then Leon wins that one.
And then Leon wins another one.
Yeah.
He wins another one.
It's...
Usman McCashev would be sick.
But I don't think they should do it.
I feel like they're going to do it.
They shouldn't do it, though.
Respect the fucking rankings.
McAshev, Ian Gary, too.
No.
What do you think about...
That's McGregor Habee.
No, bro.
Even though Ian Gary's like a gay, lame version of McGregory.
You think Markichoff and Gary is
Kabeev and Carter 2?
No, not like that.
Not like that, but you're kind of comparing it.
It's Ireland versus Dagestan part two.
That's a sales point.
I think Lusman has the best.
I think he should be the one next fighting
because, like, I just don't want to see
another fight where like he just takes down Gary.
He's going to take him down and that's what's going to happen.
That's another situation where I just think you're wrong
about the Dana stuff.
Like, even Ian Gary had to go through hearing
so much shit about his wife.
Like, it's, you can,
literally do and say whatever you want and the freedom is so under not appreciated but it's
almost unnoticed like you can literally do whatever the fuck you want but i'm not wrong about that though
because i never disagreed with that steiner so i never disagreed with that i just think it's wrong
because you're allowed to say whatever you want you're like refuting a point i didn't even fucking
make i think it's hard to perfect a guy like in a situation like that is what i understand but as a
m m mhm a hardcore fan with the most hardcore fans out there yeah they see a shitty low effort
production of a fight on like a fight announcement.
I'm going to sit there and say, this is shit, he did that shit, he could do that better.
Yeah.
That's what makes Dana good at his job is because he gets backlash and he's like, damn, they
didn't like that.
All right, maybe next time I'll do this a bit better next time.
Would you agree that the best presser ever is Connor Jose Aldo?
Yeah, in Ireland where they were chanting for McGregor.
When the fans started chanting and they did the song and everyone got in, I was like,
those are the moments I agree with you.
I just like miss.
Like, that's so crazy and unique and you'll never, it seems like you'll never see that again.
Again, I don't think.
They'll never be...
GSP actually told us this.
He was like...
I think Capori has a really good chance
of being like a massive, massive, massive star.
Yeah, and he needs a B-side trash talker like Pimlet.
Who's going to say some crazy shit to him?
That could be something.
But I know what you mean about the old press conferences being way crazy.
They used to like get up and fight each other.
Throw hands.
Well, GSP told us he was like, that's the only time I've seen a press conference win the fight.
Yeah.
He's like, Connor won that fight when he won the press conference.
I fucking love a good press conference.
Yeah.
I love it.
Did you see Strickland when he was trashing out of Sanya?
Yeah.
No man,
it beats off the cartoons.
I did like,
crashing him crazy lines.
I did like Colby and Usman's press conferences too.
Yeah.
Colby does well.
Because Colby and Usman were going back.
That was good.
I love good press conferences.
This is the shit.
It's better than the fight sometimes.
It's better than the fight sometimes.
I agree.
It is.
When Colby was saying,
what are you going to do?
Your fucking tribe's going to send smoke signals.
What the fuck is Colby saying up there?
The craziest lines ever, just the best press conferences.
What do you say about?
Usman said he calls him the king of EPO.
What do you say?
The CEO of EPO.
Marty fake newsman.
Marty Jusman.
That's creative, bro.
Marty from Nebraska.
Hobie is really good trash.
That was Usman's name is Marty?
No, Usman's real name is Kamaru.
When he was at school.
Yeah, Kamaruddin, Mohamed Usman or something like that.
But at school in America, he was called Marty.
Even Ben Askeran.
You remember Ben Ascran?
Of course.
Get well soon, Ben Ascreen, you know, covering the lung stuff.
But he was at press conferences talking mad shit.
Really?
He was there for a while, right?
He was riling up everyone and everyone was getting involved.
All it takes is one of them to start shit talking, and the rest of them fill the energy of it,
and they start trying to join in and go back and forth as well.
But nowadays, you get Volk sitting up there saying, you know, looking forward to the fire on Saturday,
and we'll see what happens.
Yeah.
That's what we get.
Even though I like Volk, you know, even Holloway does it.
We're going to find out 39.
And that's all you get from Holloway as well.
Who else can you do?
What about?
Can you do Nate Diaz?
Hold up.
You're nice fucking talking shit.
I love me.
Do you like him?
I love that poker.
I like Nate Diaz.
What was the Aspinall one?
That's a do Aspenol.
Yeah.
You ever been fingered by a UFC failure?
What would it take?
Yeah, that's Aspinall.
Hello, John.
Nice to meet you, how's it going, man?
Yeah, I have a weird thing for voices.
I can get them.
I can get a lot of listening to UFC.
Who's the best one you could do in person?
Wait, we haven't even heard your McGregor, bro.
Shoot your mouth, bro.
You might feel over the thing.
That's good.
You do not him.
Come to my bear, bro.
Yeah, fucking smoke him.
You might count of a thing.
He goes crazy with it.
Do Islam.
I can't do Macachio.
Do those guys.
Just do the dags.
Brother, you talk shit?
I don't know, man.
This guy's crazy.
You guys don't know, brother.
This guy don't even.
You got getting first nation.
I don't get him, brother.
I like when I can, brother, when he got a bit suss with it, you seen that in the edits?
Who was he talking to when he said that?
Oliverers, it was the Oliver.
Oliver thing, where D.C. was asking him like, or he was like, brother, he won't be, he won't be mad if he lose one more time.
Yes.
He's like saying, this guy don't talk English.
I don't get him, brother.
You have to try.
You have to try talk.
Well, dude, Kabe McGregor was the greatest press conference.
That was dark, man.
That was dark.
That was a little, that was crazy.
Because it got personal and it got, like,
people didn't know how deep or what they were talking about.
I still to this day,
don't even know what he was saying.
I watch that back sometimes.
I'm like,
because Dana got uncomfortable,
I've watched them fight so many times.
Wow.
But Dana's like,
all right,
Connor,
like,
and he says to Ali,
R,
Ali, chill.
So you know they were talking about some stuff
that we don't even know about.
Maybe you do.
When it gets into the teams,
that's when it's real shit.
Yeah.
When they start to go,
because there's team rivalries in M.
You know how's this right now?
You might know,
uh,
Yaya Rodriguez,
Diego Lopez.
Yeah,
they don't like each other.
They hate each other because one of their guys got jumped outside a gym in Brazil, Mexico.
So there's like real...
It's like a Mexican-Brazil.
Yeah, once it gets into the teams and like Mexicans like disowned Diego at one point,
you're not real Mexican, you're actually Brazilian.
You don't speak for us.
And then when Diego starts winning, all of a sudden, it's...
And then they went back and forth at each other and...
Yeah, they were trashed each other.
Yeah, but McGreg was going to Ali Abdelaziz a lot.
It was Nawa.
Have you seen when Danny even talks about...
They loaded up the G5, they flew to New York,
and then McGregor through the chair through the bus.
Like, it's so insane.
And it's at a different level of like, that's the hatred that.
Bro, it was so crazy.
People thought that shit was staged at one point.
Yeah.
Like, that's how crazy that, that, that bus incident, that whole, like, wow, that was.
I would like to see Dublin versus Dagestan.
Dagestan would probably have that because you have Dublin would be pretty hammered.
I just said Ian Gary Makashev and you shut it off.
But now all of a sudden, someone wants to see Dublin versus Dagestan.
Okay, go ahead with that.
No, no.
Ian Gary.
I shut it off.
No, he said, this is where you wrong about Dana.
Oh, oh, oh.
Okay, continue with your Ian Gary shit.
No, I don't want to.
Did I ruin your moment?
I'm not trying to fucking promote that fucking gay boy.
Why don't you like Ian Gary?
Yeah, you haven't.
Because he trashed me.
I do friends assume me as well for defamation, so I can't have to chill about that.
I'm like, a lot of people afraid to sue me for, even Rampage Jackson.
I know he's in, I'm supposed to be, are you guys going to R-A-F wrestling?
No.
Is that tonight?
No, dude, it's Robinton Rock Cold.
Should you just pull up.
I know.
I know.
I forgot about that, right?
Yeah.
That's a big.
There's going to be a lot of fight. Armands there.
Adam Ross is going.
Ray. Romero.
Everyone's going there.
How are they getting away with that?
Like active fighters fighting in that?
Because it's not M.M.A.
But they couldn't do striking.
So I don't know how they get away.
So maybe in the contract.
They specifically...
They can do striking in the RIF?
No.
No, it's a wrestling.
It's a wrestling.
Yeah. Can you break down the Armand versus the
Sahara, Sarah the bullet?
What's his name?
Shara Magamadov.
Yeah.
They did the wrestling thing recently, right?
Yeah, but it went to a draw because there was no one allowed to win in the contract.
But they still make...
What?
Don't they make real money from that?
Yeah, they make bank, bro.
These oil money goes crazy over there.
They got crazy.
You know, they have Jones D.C. on Russian Tuff.
No.
Yeah, what do you think about that?
What do I think about that?
Yeah, like, it does...
They don't want each other, man.
They do not like.
I think that's something you got to watch.
I think Dana might try and get that cancel, though.
How they pulling that off of that thing?
Barr still asked him, and he was like, huh?
Yes, the guy on...
He was like, he was like,
Like, hey, they're doing that.
I've been in Fiji for two weeks.
They're actually pulling that off, huh?
All right.
That's Dana's fucking language for I'm going to shut that shit down real quick, because
that ain't happening without me getting my.
I don't think they could, though.
My profit.
I know.
How could they do that?
If Jones is not fighting, they couldn't shut it down.
They should have done an ultimate fighter.
Yeah, but don't they kind of own the fighters in that way, like their image and
stuff like that?
No.
You don't think Dana has a problem with Russian randoms profiting off D.C.
I think he has a problem with it, but I don't think they could shut it down.
I reckon they could.
I mean, if active fighters are wrestling, I don't think they could shut John Jones down for pretty much doing like what's an acting almost role.
I guess so.
They're kind of acting.
But they're probably not happy about it.
They're definitely not happy about it.
But you just chucked in a quick Dana fight, Dana White defense line there as well.
I just think like a businessman too.
I mean, why would he, why would he be ecstatic about it, right?
How's your transition to businessman of Nelk from the funny, goofy times?
I mean, I've always been business behind the scenes.
Yeah, true.
I ran the business of Nelk since pretty much day one.
But now it's different.
I mean, not really.
It's pretty much the same, bro.
Proper business, though, now.
Compared to like, oh, we sold it.
We did a merch drop, guys, buy it.
Now it's like, this is different.
But business back then was our business back then was good too, bro.
It was booming when you did the merch drop.
I need to sell beanies.
That's what I'm going to try to do next.
I mean, that's when, I mean, we were making a lot of money back then too.
Yeah.
All right.
But on camera, we're kind of just goofing around, right?
Living around here.
Yeah.
Keep donating, guys.
We don't have, we're just living in a car.
Meanwhile, millions raking in behind the same.
You got to start somewhere.
We were, bro.
That's why it did so well.
I'd love to see your house.
It's nice.
Yeah, Benj is.
I'll do it good.
Did you ever cop some merch?
Cops of merch from the Nelt Boys?
Nah, I don't buy merch.
I bought one merch ages ago from some YouTuber and it was shit and all the fucking artwork peeled off of it in the wash.
So I don't trust merch.
He always holds quality.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Always.
Right?
It was good.
It was good. No, I never bought Nelt merch, but I watched it back when you had the other
guy on nilk. Jesse. No, not Jesse, the other guy. Lucas, yeah. You're fucking really. When Lucas
was on milk and you guys were just going into random stores and getting kicked out. That was
like some early day milk shit. That's crazy. Because it's like YouTube is more of a dense
following, right? Yeah. Anyone can see an Instagram real or a Twitter virality. But when you're
watching YouTube on the comments, those were the days. I mean, the internet's changed so much now.
Yeah.
Since like telling people to subscribe, like subscribe was like a. The big thing.
Yeah, a big thing.
I don't fucking tell people to subscribe.
If they want you, they can.
I don't really give a fuck.
If you asked them to, it's kind of like begging it.
Well, back then, like, subscribe was a, like, everybody would hit subscribe rather than.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, right.
Yeah.
There's no incentive to subscribe anymore.
YouTube was like a niche thing.
Now it's the main.
Well, YouTube used to only show your subscriber feed.
Oh, wow.
That's crazy.
You remember that?
Or no.
Yeah, it kind of did.
Your homepage would literally be your sub box.
That would be what it was.
Only who you subscribed to.
And now it's obviously more like TikTok or Instagram, where they're just giving you anything.
Instagram's TikTok now.
Yeah.
I mean, if you think about it, as far as like how people post TikToks of putting like, you know, captions on the screen.
I see that way more on Instagram.
It's just turning into it a bit.
I don't really make TikTok so.
I don't do that side of things.
I think I'm not helped me or anything.
No, I don't post.
People post clips of me saying crazy shit on there.
Yeah.
I know you get crazy views, but I don't want to be kind of known.
Like, if someone recognizes me, I want it to be because he watches my content, not just because he saw some.
click me somewhere and therefore now I got to deal with him talking to me at a fucking airport.
Like if there's an actual fan, I will entertain a great conversation with him.
Yeah.
But it's very rare.
Did you get recognized here?
Yeah.
What's the fucking museums?
I went to one of these museums.
It had like a grounds and like this massive gardens to it, Neskayo or something like that,
Mezcal or something like that.
I was going to now, I got recognized there by this old, this older couple and this younger couple there.
You're probably going to get recognized hella tonight.
Now on the Aidan Ross thing.
Yeah.
If I go to RAF wrestling, there'll definitely be some people there.
Is this your first, like, fight event?
Yeah.
Oh, you're going to get.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Streaming at all?
Something that will happen.
I was supposed to have a cameraman coming soon, but be flaked on me.
So we'll see what happens with that.
Do you want to pay Nino a day rate to go with you?
I can cover it for you if you want.
You want to take them?
I don't know early Nino understandings of him.
Don't know if I want him lingering around, you know?
Like, catch a case.
Catch a little Nino case over there.
Are you guys good though?
I know back in the mix.
Everything cleared up.
Everything nice and sounds now.
Yeah?
Nice.
No Snapchat on that phone.
We make sure it's removed.
No Snapchat on the phone.
Yeah.
Snapchats for teenagers, bro.
Signal.
Signal only.
Yeah.
Stop it, bro.
That's the one.
All right.
Well, I think this is great.
That was awesome, man.
It's good to meet you.
Nice to meet you, Stani.
Yeah.
What's this energy between us, man?
No, it's just funny.
Well, watching you, I said it before, but watching you.
A lot of people.
really don't know what you look like or who you are, I feel like.
Yeah.
Because your profile picture 2 on X is like gray, right?
No, it's like a beanie logo.
Yeah, but it's not your face.
Yeah, it's not my face.
My face is no case girl.
We need to see a U.S. fight this year.
Yeah, maybe.
You want to come, let us know.
Yeah, I'll go.
Maybe at the White House card.
Maybe I'll shut up to the White House card.
I don't know if I'm rich enough yet to be in the crowd there, but one of them type of events.
Did they announce London?
No.
Well, White House, you've got to secure your seats, right?
Yeah, I don't think I'm going to be attending that.
Maybe I'll come watch it with you.
You're a Patty fan too, right?
Yeah, I am a Patty fan.
You think Patty beats Skate?
Yeah, I don't think he does.
Dude, you're so scared to run into a daggie.
It's so obvious.
Yeah, I know.
They aren't going to mess around, dude.
It's like so obvious, bro.
You'd be at a UFC fight.
It's got to be your big moment.
Also, though, I can't really upload frequently out here or do streams too frequently, so
it does cost me to be out here.
Yeah, I've got to get back to the fucking grind.
Yeah, daily videos, daily streams.
Yeah, I miss the grind.
Feels good to be productive.
It's like the best endorphins.
But you got some good shit done here too, right?
Yeah, I guess I got thrown down by arm and that's pretty good.
It's good work.
Good work by me.
I let him do that shit.
It was good.
Awesome.
All right.
I'm going to make guru.
Thank you, bro.
The guru.
Thanks, man.
It's going.
