FULL SEND PODCAST - Nelk Boys Internal | Ep. 61

Episode Date: October 17, 2022

Kyle Forgeard Finally Opens Up About Why Jesse Left NELK! Presented by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer. Find Happy Dad near you http://happydad.com/find (21+ only). Video is available on http://youtube.com/fullsendpodcast/videos. Follow Nelk Boys on Instagram http://instagram.com/nelkboys. Part of the Shots Podcast Network (shots.com). You can listen to the audio version of this podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & anywhere you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We want out. We want out. We want out. We want out. Oh, I love. I love these type of pods. Fuck yeah. Just on the couch. These are the vibes. Yo, I woke up this morning. Yeah. And have you ever woken up and you've like that like you just had to shit and your stomach's like bubbling? Because you ate every morning.

Every morning. But like, but not like the kind of stuff where like your stomach hurts though. Ah, well, you ate some spicy shit. I ate some spicy stuff. I hate that. What did you have? I just had some like hob and arrow. stuff like some hot sauce i just used a lot of hot sauce the night before like the few days leading up

and i like for the last few days i'm waking up being like dude i got a shit and then i'm shit obviously i shit every morning regardless but like the kind of the one that cooked and it hurts well at least they waited for the morning the worst is like the middle of the night oh my god like when i do pop-eyes middle of the night i'm just screwed like 4 a m oh fuck but but i brought you a gift dude what is it speaking about spicy stuff i feel like no i'm not doing that i am not i just feel like why not no fucking chance i'm doing that we'll split it Can we, let's do it after the pod, maybe. Oh.

Yeah, because I'm not drinking this pot either, so I don't really want to get involved in that shit. Maybe at the very end, keep the retention going. We'll keep it for a little. Where did you get that? Yeah, what? You're not going to do half of it. You're going to do half of it.

You're going to do some other bullshit. 100% I'll do half of it. They're doing. I think that's Jew, no? Yeah, what are they doing? This is, no, she's washing dishes and shit. Dude, it's funny, though, because so we're- fucking remodeling the kitchen during the podcast.

Well, we did, this idea just came out of, I don't know where. I don't know. That's like been a thing, bro. No, no. So your creative fucking senses, bro, everyone's done. No, honestly, Nate just randomly found it at 7-Eleven. Oh, nice. Yeah, well, it's probably not going to help your stomach.

Listen, man, honestly, I just want to know what. Wait, real quick, not to cut you off, but I said I was going to do this. Okay. Where the fuck is my DeBaby $1,000? Where's what? You owe me $1,000 from the DeBaby bet from the chain. That clip came up yesterday. That's true.

Where's my fucking money, bro? I don't think you want to go down that road. What are you going to pay your debts? Are you strong arming me? Are you going to strong arm me? Just pay your debts. It's what I'm going to tell you right now. Yeah?

Yeah. Pay my debts, huh? Are you going to like do some? Don't make me, do, make me, don't make me menorrholy this to TikTok, bro. Hey, what? Where's my fucking money, bro? What? What's my fucking money.

You went there right now. You fucked. You're fucked. No, but I need that. So could he's all it to me? Yeah, I will. I just because it's just like. I got you.

I've paid you and I've lost, so. You did. That's a fair one. I feel like you owe me money somewhere along the line anyways, though. There's zero chance of that. No? No, I've paid for a lot of your shit. You have a lot more money than me, so.

I don't know if that's actually true. I feel like I've for sure fronted you sometime in Miami. I paid for everything we did in Miami. I honestly, my card was the fucking company card for a long time there. I think Steve would disagree with that. No, because he started to lose it for getting his wallet too. He picked up your method. I swear to God, bro.

Dude, it's not that I don't have money. I just like I use Apple Pay. Don't you use that shit? No, I don't. I always, I usually always have my wallet. Oh, really? And then we only go to places that don't take it. No, no.

That's not exactly true. Sometimes we go to places that take Apple Pay. I mean, honestly, it's, it is what it is. Shit just changes so fucking fast. Yeah. And that is an interesting thing. I think about the internet in general. I think a lot of people don't realize how much like shit just kind of shifts and

like scheduling for people gets so crazy. And I know like you've had experiences in like in as far as like within the company and places you guys have gone. And I know there's been times where it's like, yo, we're going to go do this. and then 10 minutes before we're not going to do it. We're going to go do something completely different. And I think a lot of people aren't always ready for that or aren't always stoked to be a part of that.

Because I've had experiences like that even with like videographers that I've had who didn't want to, didn't want to travel. Like they were like, no, I don't even want to travel, dude. I don't even want to go. I remember that. And I'm like, fuck, you remember. Yeah, I don't even say the name. But, you know, he's over there laughing.

You know, it wasn't you. It wasn't Jacob. It was a different guy. And it kind of like puts a damper on the situation because like you'd want someone to be hyped to be a part of the things that you're doing, the movement that you're making. But I think it's a common thing that I think obviously people wouldn't understand that because they just see it from the side. I think you can always plan. I tell Gabe, too, like, it's always nice to have a schedule. Like, sure, let's try to schedule shit out as much

as we can. But at the end of the day, like, I think what separates social media from like TV or something is like, you need to be ready at all times to jump on an opportunity. Right? And like, you've got to look at your schedule and be like, fuck that. We're completely scrapping that. we're jumping on a plane we're going here we're doing this yeah yeah exactly middle seat 17 hours to as as as asia between gab and a guy who's probably not as big as him but pretty big but gay probably let you sleep on the shoulder but for 17 hours middle seat damn that's a real one gave no complaints fucking you got to do it you gotta do sometimes right no but team players that's what we want around here you're absolutely right though like you this is the kind of industry too where

it's like it's time is so important if you're not doing things at a quick pace it's like the shit just passes you by like as far as being relevant or like making content on top of topics like whether we're talking about current events like being able to like first hit these things is what's going to help someone you know grow or continue to grow or continue to maintain relevancy popularity whatever relevancy like relevancy in terms of like what it's going on in the media or whatever exactly that is so important for social media yeah especially now even more so with this kind of stuff because this is like who's going to want to see us come on here and talk about stuff that's like two years old no unless it was something

current that's like rehashing that right no one's going to even the podcast yeah you can't really get that ahead you know maybe what two to three max our spontaneous because after that it's like then something could happen in the news where it's like you want to talk about it right away and then we didn't talk about it and it's like oh what the fuck that episode's now kind of irrelevant so even with the pot it's stuff because you can't you can't get two to ahead we went to Croatia with when we went there we had no hotels booked like so you do things when tate's really hot you do it in the heat of the moment you have to do it yeah what I'm saying is spontaneous trips are what I think have been a huge success for us.

Yeah. With anything, though, too. And then also, I think if you're uploading a YouTube video, I think that if people are watching it on your social media, like, all week, then when you put that YouTube video up, like, in a timely fashion, it's going to convert better to YouTube, too. You know what I mean? Yeah. I think that when you're doing, like, let's say we went to Croatia and then we didn't

drop that video for a month, it becomes stale. Like, I know when we were really, really doing one a week, like, people see it on your Instagram story. And then three days later, it's on YouTube, they're fucking watching that shit. Yeah. And they're just tied in the whole time. Yeah, I remember that. That probably, like, we were fucking traveling everywhere.

We were like nonstop on the road. We were doing the road trips, all that shit. This was like two years ago. I talked to Osgod, too, and I don't even know how we did it. Yeah. I really don't. Because I remember it was like you'd have to, I remember we would watch the videos. It was every Monday, right?

Every Monday. And then it'd be like. And we'd shoot it. Yep. And edit it and post it in the same week. And I remember the sweat, like leading up to that. And then everyone would kind of sit and watch the premiere. Yeah.

And then just the next day, it's like, you have maybe one day at rest. And it was like fucking sweat right all over again. And that shit's not for everyone. No. Like straight up. I mean, so have you ever had anyone like, or if you dealt with anyone in the business wise or like videographers? Because I've had videographers are like, I can't do this shit.

People that like kind of just weren't, I don't know, weren't about it. I think, I think with this shit too, it definitely takes even new people that we hire. it takes them a second to really like figure out how fast this shit is moving yeah you know like the vets that have been around they kind of they know how it works but yeah we'll bring on like let's say like a producer or something like that and like we'll give him an idea and he'll be like yeah i need like a month or something and it's like dude no we got to shoot this like in two days like we want to post this in a week so I think really just the social media world just you just got to be ready to move yeah and get off your ass traveling though too it's like you're drinking

partying combined in with that for the content yeah well that's the specific this this group as well i don't think you can really compare anybody to to our group though too in the way that we move and do things yeah i mean you've been around it a lot enough yeah bro i've seen it all i mean you've been around yeah yeah from not from the beginning of nilk but definitely like the bringing on of steve and like doing all that stuff like it was about two years ago i think that we just like just started making a bunch of content together and it's it's fucking insane like Because I remember parts of the videos where it was like we have vlog stuff. And because I know you were all about like having those.

Like you didn't have a video. You don't want to have video that was just all prank or all prank. You wanted to have a good balance. And then there's also like you needed to also include some of like the vlog slash party stuff. And then so the drinking became relevant. Then it's like you're trying to do all this stuff within a week. And I people, I just do not understand that. Because you couldn't.

You wouldn't unless you were in it. And I at first was like, yo, this is insane. How the fuck am I going to start working out? And so I remember I would come to trips and be like, yo, as long as I could work out, then I'll do, I don't care about anything else. But yeah, I mean, I know for sure there was, it's tough. Like, it's really, really tough.

Super fucking tough. There's a lot of shitty things about. And in this podcast, I don't want to sound like I'm complaining or anything like that. Because like I'm so fucking grateful to like be where I am. Yeah, like doing this, in my opinion is like, it's the dream job, bro.

It's what I always dreamed of. Like I'm seriously so happy. like doing what we do yeah like i still enjoy it i love making videos i love doing this this is another fun thing now um i love the business shit too like you know launching this and seeing where it's at it's all fun to me you know yeah but i have a question about the business stuff did you like like obviously it's transition so much over the time over the years how did the you know i know the jesse thing like you you guys parted ways you like i know that from what i can understand looking out it's like looking into it everything was fine um but how did it evolve as far as social

media and like the requirements of the filming like the rigorousness of it and and your guys's relationship together like did it did it change your relationship did it change like the relationship to the business you know what I'm curious you should start from the beginning bro I think yeah I think before we do that too I just want to like I think I think one thing with me is like when I don't like address this type of shit it's just because like I don't know maybe I have an issue with being more vulnerable about like stuff like that like obviously we saw what happened last week with the bob shit yeah and like to me i'll be honest bro like that really like like ate me up for like a whole week like yeah why like like when when bob posted that ticot like

i was just like dude what the fuck like it really like that to me was something that i like did not want to do and like i did not enjoy doing at all did the response thing Yeah, I just don't, like, that's not what I really signed up for. Like, I'm not here to do, like, drama shit or, like, talk about people that I considered to be friends, you know? Like, even if I felt like they've done me wrong, I don't really like going on social media and talking about that type of shit, right? Bob are way different, though.

No, no. The Bob and Jesse thing is completely polar, polar opposites. No, they're completely different. Polar, polar, two totally different situations. But, no, I think that's why one thing for me, I guess I got to get better at it. is just like, I guess, yeah, I mean, obviously the fans, you guys are so connected to us, they want to know. And I think if you don't say anything, then people just assume the worst, which I understand. Right. And I guess I do have a responsibility to, like, talk about shit.

But like, when Bob posted that TikTok, like, dude, for the, for the next four days, like, I was just like, I was just like, I can't believe that he did that. And now that one was different because it was like, I have to kind of say something about this now, even though I didn't want to. I think something that's frustrating, like, from a, like, because I know how viewers are, they just see what they see and they don't always understand the full story. Like, I've had experiences in the past where, like, people just shit on me for their own benefit, period, like, or to like make themselves look good so that you look bad so that they sort of some sort of pull to them away from you. And like, it sucks because I don't think most viewers understand that there's always so much more to a story than just what someone says. Like there's so many cases in which like obviously this happened to you recently, but I could say personally, people have ran their mouth about me just for views, just for cloud, just for some sort of selling some shit for it to make themselves so good to make someone else like bad. And it's, it's unfortunate because it's, it's never that simple.

It's never just like this is that cut and dry. So there's always so much more to it. And obviously like it can be uncomfortable to have conversations specifically with like about people that you do consider friends or have considered friends where it's like it does suck to be like, damn. Because my whole thing, even with the Jesse shit, and obviously we're both on the same page, me and Jesse are. But I literally actually would always say, like, I never want to call her daddy type fucking, like, incident. Like when he said that and then just like all the hate that comes in was something that I've never really like experienced. Oh, I've experienced that. And then you're reading all those comments and like the thing is for me, like all our comments are like, oh, like your videos, this video sucks.

this video's not funny like blah blah blah blah blah but this one was different because it was all like personal attacks on me yeah which i was not used to you know fans like you're a snake like you fucked your boy like yeah and then you really start to like like like you kind of like believe it for a sec when you're reading all that shit you're like you're like you know so i had to like kind of take a step back and just be like yo like i know what i did in the situation i know I had no one had more fucking like love and like interest for Bob succeeding than me. Like I feel like I fucking picked him out and gave him the best fucking opportunity possibly could have had.

You know, so I get it, man. I've had an experience like that. But it suck, bro. I didn't enjoy like even filming that fucking response video and shit. Like I was like, dude, this is so fucking gay. You have to at this point. But I had to, right? Yeah.

There was times like I experienced this years and years ago in the fitness. industry and i never really responded something to it like properly and i always kind of regretted that i didn't respond to it in a way that i should have what i got like there was act out of anger no there was there was a dude who just basically like lied on my name a ton of shit about like his girl and all this crazy shit like i sold his company none of this was true and i was i was called a snake i lost i i just hit a million subscribers on youtube and i lost 70 000 overnight and he gained like a hundred thousand on his YouTube because my YouTube was blowing

70,000 YouTube subscribers overnight that's crazy and I just hit a mill and like it was like when my videos were going super viral I just said like picking up girls at Goals Gym millions of views yeah and this person came out and just made like a straight shit on me video and I just had to deal with it and I remember being like I'm going to be

the bigger guy and not address it and not say all the details and I realized that was one of the worst mistakes I ever made yeah and it's but at the same time like when I look at it from like the you know my hindsight now part of me's like in the long run it's it's like it's all good because no matter what like i just continue to do my stuff and be me regardless though i'm like what he said about the whole snake thing and being called like on these personal attacks that was the worst part

because people just instantly switched up on me overnight without even understanding the other side of the story that's the thing with the audience too is when only one person's talking they're controlling the narrative so people are just so quick to believe that side and they're wondering when you don't when you keep quiet it makes them think okay he's going to got a reason why he's not saying even but even but that's the crazy thing even and I knew that so I knew that but then I also knew if you say anything next they just go well he's just saying that because he said that yeah so it's like whoever goes first has the most power and that's the crazy part about it and the dynamic is fucked up on the internet I'm glad that I think the bob situation was

handled you handled it really well I think everybody agrees with that and I think it's it's good that it hey so what did you want to talk about well I want to tell you about Wagovi Wagoe what about it on second thought I might not be the right person to tell you. Oh, you're not? No, just ask your doctor about Wagovi. Yeah, ask for it by name. Okay, so why did you bring me to the circus?

Oh, I'm really into lion tamers. You know, with the chair and everything. Ask your doctor for Wagofi by name. Visit Wagovi.combe.com. Exclusions may apply. It kind of ended. Hopefully it ended in such a quick time. Like, the call her daddy shit went on for weeks.

You know, this was like a statement. Yeah, I think. I am I'm really happy the way that like what I said and I think you know it's the truth really so I think that's why people kind of backed us and but I mean I feel bad for Bob like I just I love I can't help but like we were such I really did consider him one of my best friends me too I still do but he he certainly fucked up the situation and that one's kind of on him I see a lot of shit like people will say something about us like little jabs at us and stuff like that too and I kind of just leave it alone because I don't want to be that person that wastes their whole fucking time responding to everyone and then you're always in this internet beef and shit like that yeah that's never been our thing so i guess that's why i was kind of hesitant to respond but that makes sense yeah but honestly it was actually like a huge like weight lifted off my shoulders man because like you know everyone just like judging you and just having this like opinion on what happened so for me to just go on and like clear it up like

I'm actually like really happy that I did that. And like people are able to see. Yeah. It's pretty wild if you think about it. Like instead of just communicating with Bob directly, you're opening it up for everybody to see your open conversation. Yeah. I mean, I guess it kind of is, it's indicative of social media.

Cause it's like we, we're not normal like, uh, people that you see like, really like you saw a celebrity back in the day and it was like he's on TV. He had no connection. Now that all the connection is built on the platform itself like people kind of like, and this is something I'm realizing more more. People feel involved. Yeah, they are. They're like, they have some sort of sense of sort of sense of entitlement, which is kind of realistic. I'd be the same way too. Yeah. Well, like I'm, I want to know what like, you know, when people have their little breakups or whatever. It's like years. Yeah. You want to know what's happening. Yeah. I get it. I think it's just something I just need to just get better at, I guess. Confrontation. Confrontation and just, yeah, just kind of being getting back to being more open, I guess. Yeah, like that. But it's kind of crazy, dude. This, this actually happens a lot more than people think. Like, like, confrontation. Like, Creators, even in music.

Like, people part ways at points in time, and it just happens. Yeah. Like, it happens very frequently. Well, I mean, things change. Like, goals changed, like, aspirations change, directions, people's lives changed. Like, I had buddies that worked for me who worked for me in a different way now because they had kids and they couldn't do the other things that we had planned. Yeah, exactly.

It's just like, there's nothing in life that is just going to be exactly one way once you started from the beginning to end. It doesn't even work that way. Right. Like the Jesse shit, like that, how that evolved where it's like, I know that he was way more involved and then like i guess i don't know if you kind of stop from my perspective when i was looking in i was like maybe he stopped like doing the pranks because i'd be there in the car what did you see what's that i think let me like i think for that situation i was always kind of waiting for me and

jesse to kind of say something together maybe or like to do the podcast you know like i always thought that would be a good way to kind of let fans know like together yeah um but i think after the bob shit um i i just feel more comfortable now just like talking talking about it i think but um i did the podcast has helped you with that though too probably just talk i think so a bit yeah i think so a bit but um you can't have no choice now too yeah and i think i think it's just like you know um but yeah no i always thought the podcast would be cool with jesse right obviously we see all the comments all the fans want him on but um i reached out to him when he posted on his instance he made like a thing saying like he he sold his he's moving on he sold his steak and knelk and full

send and all that um and i just like once again just like kind of congratulated him and said like yo like congrats blah blah blah and we were talking a little bit back and forth um there's no bad blood at all like there's no bad blood on both sides um but i asked him I said you know obviously the podcast is there like if you ever want to do it like when you're ready and stuff um and he basically told me like yo bro like i'm down probably one day but right now i'm just like extremely happy off social media yeah like he's just not it doesn't seem at all like he misses the knelk life and like the fast-paced shit what kind of a fucking rat race this is yeah it is you know and and honestly after like what i had to deal with

last week i was like i kind of fucking envy him so like i envied him for a little bit. Yeah. Do you, like, damn, like, do you think, though, if, let's say you got to that point where you were just cool with not being on the internet, which someday, obviously, I really want to be there that you would then just never come back? Because I feel like now with this type of content, it's so much more comfortable. Like, I couldn't.

To what? I like doing what, I like doing what we're doing when we're doing it. Like, to me, like, I'm just, I feel like I'm a natural, like, entertainer at heart. Like, for me, I honestly love it. I love shooting something that, like, I came up with, shooting it, editing it, posting it, and getting a fucking amazing response from it. Like that feeling is like, that's the best feeling to me. That, that for me is like what it's all about, you know?

Yeah. So I don't know. I feel like, I don't know. I think for me personally, maybe, I don't know if I'd always be doing the NELC type of shit. But one day, like, it might transition to like writing a movie or writing a TV show. Yeah. Or like different.

But I feel like I'll never. stop doing content. Yeah, I feel like it just evolves. Yeah, there's some people that probably feel that way. Like this stuff, I feel like I could do this shit for the next year.

Podcasts you could do forever. That's what's great about the pod too. We're sitting and you're chilling. It's amazing. It's the best. It's literally the best. Yeah, no,

I think with the Jesse thing too is like, it's obviously just a totally different situation than Bob where there's no, I don't know if there's bad blood between me and Bob, but like the Jesse thing was kind of like a mutual, a mutual separation, you know? um yeah i remember and i think go ahead yeah i think that like

you know people say like you know knelk's not the same without jesse and like i would agree with that you know like no one can ever like i think like what me and jesse did was like it's fucking unheard of you know like what we built together even before we met steve i think steve joined it like i don't know what he joined at but it's got to be a few mill

you know like we went we went from fucking like broke to like successful yeah well dude like it's insane this is the same when did jesse join the channel how many subs were you at so when i first met jesse i was at so i i'd started the channel right

and we were making videos blah blah blah and then i kind of started to take it more seriously it's when i like dropped out of school and i was at 30 000 subscribers on youtube so i was doing some of the pranks like we had done the like macdonald's one that one's like funny um and then jesse had hit me up on like facebook and he had he he used to be on an m tv show called careless teens yeah he actually had like was on an tv show in Canada um so he

DM me and said like yo man like I'd love to like shoot some stuff together blah blah blah um he pitched me a few ideas and then one day we like met up and we shot it it was like a you lit me on fire prank so he said he said he knew how to put a gasoline on someone's arm and then like we could like light it on fire without like injuring them and shit what the fuck yeah so so he would like go up beside someone and then put the gas on his arm and I'd light his arm on fire and then he would like blame the person like sitting beside him what the fuck you let me on fire that's pretty funny it's so reckless back then dude I love that it was crazy bro wait yeah was there any practice

or did you just trust his knowledge on lighting you on fire and you just ran it I think I can't remember if I got lit on fire. No, no, we tried it out. It's safe, though. We wore like three sweaters or like four sweaters. And you're patting it out. Yeah. Fuck, where's that footage? It's on YouTube. I want to see this shit. Yeah. We can watch it. We should see if we can pop that up. I mean, I think it's important for people to understand that, and you said it a little bit earlier, it was, it would never be the same without him. But the reality is this, like, it's just like an artist. You think about everyone's like, oh, I want the old Kanye, the old Drake, whatever. It's like, Go back, Gabe, just go back.

You can't make the same content forever. Like, just naturally as a human, you have to evolve and things change. And, like, it has to evolve. What happened after that video? I wanted to go to L.A. Yeah. So we were already going. And then we just asked Jesse, we're like, yo, do you want to come with us?

Like, let's film. Let's try to, let's try to just do YouTube shit, you know? Yeah. So he had said yes. So I pretty much saved up money for, like, I worked at a golf course, like, all summer. I remember this story. And just fucking saved up money. And then, uh,

we moved out to LA and we started like filming doing the pranks and this is when pranks were like really popular um and we hit a few like viral videos we did the seven ways to compliment boobs I don't know if you've seen that one no where like nice rack and then the person behind is holding like that's classic and then obviously the coke prank that was one of the biggest prank that's our most viewed video yeah um we did that but I think yeah and that shit was crazy like you know we started popping off slowly and stuff like that and we were going back and forth to Canada too so because we didn't have visas so we're pretty much six months in LA six months Canada like going back to our parents house too right because we couldn't afford still to live by ourselves when you were in

LA weren't it wasn't there a time where you were staying with like the phase guys and stuff like that that was after after yeah so yeah wait you got to tell us how what point are you at how many subs are you at this point at this point we're probably under 100k when we went to LA fuck bro it's a journey years years ago, this is fucking six, seven years ago. What do you think it is? 2018? Yeah. I don't know, bro. Search up on the Coke prank was uploaded. Yeah, I've been doing fucking YouTube for like eight, nine years now. It's fucking been forever, dude. I know some people are like, you guys blew up quick. I'm like, bro, shut the fuck up. Yeah, no, it's always, but it's always you see it now. That's why they just see it now. They go, oh, they're popular. 2015. Yeah. That's when we

uploaded it. So probably seven, eight years, right? Yeah. I think I started end of four. 14 holy shit yeah we were going back and forth back and forth back and forth and then this was before the cloud house and i think like i think one thing and we're doing like crazy pranks at this time too right like we're fucking i'm 19 20 like i don't give a fuck i was not scared of getting arrested one single bit yeah you know like we felt like invincible i think what was the craziest one you ran at that point i feel like the coke i mean they're in mexico like pretending they had coke like yeah i mean that's fucking nuts but anything else but anything else but anything else that like didn't go as viral or didn't air i mean i could scroll back here i guess

because the level of savagery was for sure different back then oh i mean just on youtube in general like what they allowed was completely different back then and this would have been around the same time like pranks were probably the most popular thing on youtube too what were you doing at this point i was doing fitness shit straight up just like workout videos like teaching people how to fucking workout i was i was training foosey tube and shit like i got to keep can you i saw i started on youtube you pay me my thousand i didn't pay you anything now i haven't looked at my phone yeah still i mean just a bunch of shit like we're doing all the like this is like during like all the fake employee pranks right yeah yeah so like fake walmart fake starbucks um

and all the college videos like dropping out of college like this is one big college you know we're like 21 whatever all that type of shit um but i think yeah i think um like when when you think of knellk like me and steiny were saying like and i was telling you it's like nelk is like partying and drinking or no first nilk is pranks yeah and then drinking and partying and traveling that's kind of what when we really got big is like that's what it always was you know even when me and jesse were in the car like rodeying around and stuff like we were drinking we were partying we were doing pranks yeah and i think i think the first thing that really started to affect them and this is like a long time ago too it's not really anything recent jesse yeah i think i think was

like and it even became more difficult for me was the pranks right because you're doing these savage-ass videos and you're always trying to like one-up yourself every single week every single time too right and there was a video we did in toronto um and we got we got arrested for it um it was pretty stupid i could tell you so it was it's always that the pranks that are like the most harmless ones that you get arrested for all the savage ones you never get arrested for so we had like 10 pizza boxes like this like taped up and then we were just going to people's doors and being like hey did you order pizza it's literally stupid right like it's not even that funny how would you get arrested for that so the lady the lady had come out of

her house like she chased us out after and she was flipping out us flipping out us flipping out on us like screaming at us going crazy like what the fuck Because you knocked on her door and said... Yeah, but what happens when they say, I didn't order the pizzas? You just keep going? Yeah, we just keep going. Oh, okay.

Like, it wasn't anything crazy, though. But then she had come out. She saw that we were filming. So she's like, she snapped and gave this crazy reaction. And I, at the time, I had this business card from this barber in my wallet. And it was, like, sitting on the, like, cup holder. And it said George Hennon on it. So she, I guess she saw that, the business card.

And she's like, I know who you are. George Hennon. And it became, yeah, it became a huge meme. Like, it became the biggest, all the OGs are laughing right now. It became the biggest meme on our channel. And like we kept, we made like, we made like a beat with it. Like I know who you are, George Hennon, George Hennon, George Hennon. You had a fucking beat?

And we made like shirts with it and shit, like missing. And there was this whole thing like, yo, who's George Hennon? Who's George Hennon? Yeah, that's hilarious. And then, it was a barber. And I actually didn't know that the business card was in my wallet for the long time. I thought she just said George Hennon. Yeah, I was like, who the fuck is George Hennon? And then, so we kind of made it a meme. And then, but in the video, we blurred her license

plate. We blurred her address. We blurred her face. Like, we completely protected her identity. But somehow fans still found out where she lived. And they started calling her in the middle of the night. And like some people even showed up to her house. They're like George Hannon. I think it was just kids down the fucking street to be honest but anyways they charged us with criminal harassment and like mischief over five thousand dollars your your house so the cops called us and they basically said hey like come turn yourselves in or like you're being charged like come turn yourselves in or you know we're going to come get you guys it's going to go better if you come turn yourselves in so we went and we turned ourselves in and you guys got arrested and we both got

arrested yeah and it was so they took us to like it was downtown Toronto too so we're from Mississauga Mississauga probably would have been a little lighter yeah but it was like downtown Toronto it was pretty it was pretty scary from what I remember and then you had to pay that money both you guys had to split it or we well then we had to get lawyers and if you guys know anything about court cases it's not fucking one week two weeks one month this shit takes a fucking at least a year yeah anytime you get a charge it takes it's gonna take at least a year right so we're dealing with this all year and now we have this charge and i think we were facing up to like like a few months in prison right and no matter what any because this lady was also like a rich

ass doctor too she's a female she's like a doctor oh she was press an issue oh yeah yeah 100 like you could tell she had some pull with the police um so we're like fuck you know we didn't really know it was going to go down and shit yeah so that i think after that that that was one thing that i think you know it caused me stress it's actually kind of impressive because there's a lot of people that probably would have quit at that point yeah but I'm telling you my mentality back then was like I'd rather fucking go to jail than fucking fail this shit yeah like I was like I was all in it like I was like I don't give a fuck like let's post the video that we got arrested and let's keep going yeah that was my mind so what happened after all the lawyer fees you guys just were like

that that case was still going on but then we also had to keep going to the states oh shit Yeah. So every time we were at the border, the charge would pop up. Wow. And like I know that like obviously caused us a lot of anxiety too. And it was like one time they almost didn't let us in. Like they questioned us for like an hour. And then it was up to one guy. Like the guy's like, all right. He's like, bro, like you just make the call. And the guy's like, all right. Like, like go. Okay. And that was like, that's pretty crazy. They let you travel. They'll usually take your passport. Yeah. I mean, but we, we couldn't stay in Canada because we would have been fucked. Right. Like we had to go back to L.A. When Canada's like, Canada's like extra strict with stuff, apparently. Well, this was the U.S. government, though. Oh, okay. Coming into the country with a pen. I'm just saying like this whole passing and going in and out. So then we're going back and forth still, like, you know, traveling with the charge.

And then we beat that one. We got it dropped. I had to do, we both had to do 150 hours of community service at a food bank. I mean, this was the real kicker after that was then because time goes on. We're crushing it. We're crushing it. and doing the same shit um and then he he got arrested in ohio i remember that so what he did for that one is uh this one's hilarious too he dressed we dressed them up in a white suit and poured a bunch of

fake blood on him and then he had a shovel and he went into the bookstore and said is there any books for how to bury bodies for dummies right and then i guess a bunch of people laughed like we weren't even getting good reactions. Like, people didn't believe it. They're like, ha ha, like you're kidding, right? But I think a bystandard saw it or something, like probably some nosy Karen or some shit.

And she called, she called the cops. Yeah, of course. And then we're chilling out vlogging with like a few fans, like giving out merch and stuff and fucking like six cruisers pull up. I mean, imagine getting fooled by that too, though.

Huh? Like, you have to be a Karen to like, actually believe that and called for us. I just wonder what that phone call was like, there's a man with blood all over him. And a shot of her body. Yeah. Hey, what?

I know. So do they pull up, like, guns drawn then? No, they pulled up and they're like, oh, like, what's going on here? Blah, blah, blah. And we basically told them like, yo, we're just, it's just a joke. Is this in Toronto? We're in California. Ohio.

Columbus, Ohio. You got to pay attention. You get it next time. No, there's a lot. No, I just shut the fuck up. Sorry, sorry. Yeah. Shut up.

I apologize. Sorry to have this. What's the comment for that now? He should just sit back and let Brad do the whole. Just listen. Just listen. If you listen, you got it. That's what they're commenting.

Yeah. Sorry, dude. Dude, I love you, bro. How does this make you feel? Pay me my money. Hey, how does this make you feel? Sad. Okay.

Okay, anyways, let's get back to this story. This is interesting. So when did you start? Six people pulled up and they're like, yeah, we told them that was just a joke. And they were very pissed off. Yeah. Because I guess it was, I don't know. They said it was inducing panic.

And I think like even like a helicopter had come and shit. Like they took the, obviously they took the threat really seriously. Like they thought it was a real thing. They thought there was a murderer there. so like they fucking they took him away right on the spot oh he must have been stressing bro yeah in columbus ohio did they see the cameras apparently apparently the area that he was arrested was like one of the worst areas too one of the worst like jails to go to yeah um and he was in there overnight and then they were like don't drop the soap or what i don't know they just took him way

i was yeah it's funny for you because you're gonna fucking flourish in jail i would do well you're gonna get dapped up and fucking probably run a guy yeah lucky fuck any drugs wait so is he he goes to jail solo no one else gets in trouble no yeah they took him and so he comes out then and he's like so he was in there for like a night or some shit yeah um we had to like get him a lawyer like i was making calls fucking got him a lawyer and shit and we met up with the guy and he got jesse out the next morning and then after that i really noticed like all right clear like obviously too right like yeah after that now you have now he's we don't have visas too so he's basically in the states um he didn't know if he was going to get deported or

what was going to happen right um yeah and i think i think that was like a big moment after that i don't think he was enjoying doing the pranks as much right and like this is like still prime time savagery knell you know yeah like i just remember kind of after that it was it seemed really tough for him to like kind of participate in like a lot of the pranks that we were doing you know like I remember some of them like like a fake pilot one like I don't think he was even down to be a part of that at all like that's where we dressed up as pilots and like went in the airport and like pretended to drink it's fucked but you know why that one's fuck because federal laws are like really serious bro that one's fucked dude that one's

Fucked. Yeah, you're really, because you can, like, not, but you want to know. Who did that one then just you or? Me, Steve and I think Danny Mullen. He's Steve. Yeah. Yeah. But we didn't go, we didn't go past security.

So we stayed in the general area. Okay. Yeah. So it's not like, still fuck though, bro. Yeah. That, like, I don't know how we had the ball. That's fucked. Who came up with that one?

I don't know. Probably comments. Like, do fake pilot. Yeah. No, for real. At this time, too, we're still going back to Canada. back and forth and this charge was now showing up on his thing and stuff like that and we're also applying for visas at the same time so I think after that arrest was when it was really like

kind of tough for him to to do the pranks and I think slowly you know he would try to do it but I think just like I just think that it was too much of a risk for him you know he I think he always wanted to see himself living in the United States too so yeah I got banned yeah To risk that and fuck that up, I think, was something that just wasn't really, you know, down to do. Do you guys ever think about changing up the content? We did. I mean, we tried, we had, like, a moment where we were, like, kind of doing, like, skits and stuff like that. Obviously, when NELC became really big, is when we did more vlog, too.

Sure. But people want to see pranks. They still want to see pranks. But, yeah, we tried doing skits, like, a little bit. it and like people did not fuck with that really yeah one episode i remember was like i renamed it to this video sucks horn yeah i like it's still the title it's called this video sucks horn it's the worst video on our channel yeah go watch it it's it's funny i remember that i remember when they're like starting to fucking just be like fuck this you suck we want pranks the video's the video's

it's so bad it's i don't know what the fuck we were thinking but um but you also got to try shit though too yeah yeah it is what it is it's kind of funny now so where we're Where was the relationship at at that point when the skits you started changing or trying to? That was when we had moved into our first L.A. house officially, which was the Ferdonia house. Oh, shit. Okay. So that's when we had moved into there. And that's when we hired like more editors because we were doing every week. Yeah, I remember.

We hired like three editors. And we had like 20 people living in that house. I remember that. Like there was one room with like six. people it was like a complete fucking like nilk shit show frat house yeah like it was a complete dump like boxes everywhere fucking clothes like darts beers fucking yeah place was a shit it was an absolute dump this is after you guys lived in my house for like a month yes yeah this is before we moved in yeah perfect yeah oh damn they're there Kyle Steve and Jesse at my house yeah

it was just uh Kyle and Steve nice Jesse yeah Jesse was always he just kind of always to me felt somewhat like so so i think i think why he didn't come for that was because of his charge yeah he was still in canada right i think i think his chart like so then once once you get your charge once you beat the case then you got to get your charge wiped otherwise it still shows up right cleared so he had beat it but then it wasn't officially wiped and i guess he didn't really feel comfortable he didn't want a chance crossing the border i guess yeah oh so he's in canada at this This is two years ago. So I kind of...

That's funny, you know why? I had to go and kind of keep the uploads going, right? I just remember, you know, at the same time was happening? As you and Steve went on Bob's podcast. Oh, yeah, with the 905 shit. Yeah. This was at that same time, right when you moved into Fredonia. He was really a guy, if you know, Jesse, that like he likes his alone time and he likes his space.

And like, he just likes to like, he likes to mellow out and chill and be alone when he's not working, you know? Yeah. And I think. that house was just like way too chaotic as well for him and i think he had made plans to like maybe move out and like kind of live on his own yeah at the same time that we're living in the house i think this is when jesse uh you know he kind of slowly stopped like coming out with us at night and stuff like that and like stuff like that yeah i remember and then um that's when he like made the decision to like go completely sober yeah so which which again like that's like an individual choice

and like i would i think it's great that he like decided to do that you know yeah like that's there's nothing i can really say about that um but what when he decided to go sober was kind of the time that we were working on happy dad right so at that point like i kind of knew like damn Like he's not, I knew he wasn't going to be able to obviously do the things that me and Steve are now doing. You couldn't sustain it. Well, there's no way he could be involved in, you know, doing all this stuff for Happy Dad that, that me and Steve are doing right now. Going to liquor stores, club appearances, shit like that. Going to liquor stores, doing tastings, like pulling up at bars three nights in a row.

You know, like it's not, no, and it's not, it's not a place that. you know someone yeah that you don't know it's not somewhere you want to be around when you're sober yeah right so we kind of started doing the happy dad stuff and we launched happy dad um and me and steve started doing all the stuff like the bars and you know when you own alcohol company it's it is there's drinking involved you know and sometimes it's not always it's not always something i want to do either too you know like sometimes it literally is work yeah so i obviously totally get why Jesse couldn't really like be a part of that you know um and I think at that same time too yeah I think he just realized like yo I'm not really happy doing all the stuff

that's like required to with the nilk lifestyle yeah me makes sense you know people grow yeah so fucking I think well dude I think uh the lifestyle for a lot of people would be tough you got to be cut some type of way to do this shit bro without a doubt that's the thing we're saying like the fast-pacedness of it, like regardless, I don't think that Jesse couldn't necessarily do it. I just think his, like, these goals or things he wanted his life started to, like, not align with it. I think he could still do it if you wanted to. I think he was just fed up with like even, yeah, and then we went to South America. We did like a big, kind of like we did Europe. Yeah. And he decided that like he wasn't going to go on that trip. Yeah. You know, obviously like,

just after being sober to, I guess it was just, I don't know, it was just too much for him. Right. I can't really speak on exactly how he was feeling. Yeah. But I just noticed that he just didn't really want any part of like the NELC videos. Yeah. It wasn't, he wasn't enjoying it anymore. And I think he kind of pushed himself to the limit. Um, so he kind of wanted to do, he decided he wanted to kind of help more with the merch and like doing the designs and stuff like that.

Um, so he did that for a little bit. And then that's when he launched his own channel. Shithole. Shit hole, I remember. And that started kind of as like behind the scenes of what he was doing with the merch and stuff like that, kind of like a reality show type vibe. And then he kind of switched it up into more like an MTV punked type style show with like more production and pranks and stuff like that. Did he ever ask you for input or advice on that kind of stuff? Or was it just completely?

Yeah. Like especially at the beginning like helping with like, oh, what's the title going to be for the first video and stuff like that? like you know what I mean helping it launch it a little bit but it was mostly him but he did ask me for some advice makes sense um did you know was going to go in this direction like ultimately he's going to do his thing

you were going to do yours i mean at the end of the day that nilk show had to go on right yeah i think i think he was just really focused like he was really happy and he was really focused doing like the shit hole show and it seemed to me like he was like just way happier doing that that's great

you know like there was no traveling there's no drinking there's no it was on his time it was on his schedule he could kind of sustain like a healthy lifestyle and also kind of do the content that he wanted to do as well right you know um yeah i just think i think he saw like his future like being more in that style and like that that lifestyle i mean it makes sense dude yeah it does it's the shit's not for everyone all the time forever yeah you know I mean, like we were talking earlier, like, you may even evolve into something else where, like, maybe you're not doing the same things that you've always done. Because I was always curious, like, to me, it looked like NELC, the concept of it, like the group and the videos, the style, like the banter stuff.

It could continue to be like, oh, not necessarily a network, but like a continuation. Like, there could be another group that continues that kind of style if it had some sort of like maybe direction. I always considered you the guy that like maybe you'd just be like directing. the next group of guys who could continue that. And I've always been curious. I always wanted to ask you this. Or do you think when you stop doing it, it's done? I don't know.

I think it's just kind of evolving now too. To where, I don't know, I think we can kind of, it just might be less uploads because now I'm at that point now where it's like, I don't want to just like rush to put out like a shitty video. I feel like we've done our time with every week. Like we're trying to put out as many YouTube videos. we can obviously love making videos but um i think now it's more just like kind of like our life as well as some pranks and some trolling yeah and i think i think we're always going to live a

pretty crazy life and we're always i'm always going to still enjoy doing some type of pranks you know i can't do even now i i'm in the same position that jesse was is like bro i don't have the balls that i used to do with like these crazy ass pranks right like i look back at what we used to do and i'm like dude the shit me and jesse were doing before and even when steve joined was fucked like yeah dude can you think of any creator who's doing the same thing they were doing 10 years ago yeah that's that's also the moral of the story is like you also can't even the platforms itself i don't even think they allow certain things to be on the platform like they used to yeah it's always gonna change at some point it's all evolving that's this whole thing i mean

this whole thing is living right like social media is still so brand new as a whole yeah so it's like just but i guess i meant like are where you're not involved anymore yeah or like would you like consider something I don't it'd be a tough choice to let someone else upload on the nilk channel yeah like I would that shit's my baby right so you have to move all somehow but I would probably make a different channel for them or some shit oh okay you know what I mean you let it you let it die then I mean why I had to die yeah but I mean you could take six months off and drop a fucking banger video true right but I mean like when you're 35 you could still make videos still do the podcast of course a podcast I'm saying that's separate I'm saying

of Nelk and the concept of Nelke. You're still uploading on Bradley fucking your four channels. Yeah. But who knows? Where am I going to be when I'm 35? Maybe Happy Dad's like fucking one of the biggest alcohol brands and like my life is still going to be like crazy.

Right? Like I'm sure we're still going to be going to fucking UFC fights. Yeah. And I think you just film that and I think you just you just kind of evolve it too, right? Especially with the pod. We're going to be meeting cool people all the time. And that's the way I see it. I see it as just you can.

kind of uploading a little less and you're only putting out kind of what you want yeah i mean social media is so cool because it's like it literally can grow with you and your audience can grow with you and then you could even i mean you know what too we're talking about it i'm going to cut you off i'm going to it's fine it's fine but like even look at we talked about mr b's youtube shorts becoming so big like that means maybe you don't have to film as much content make it easier on yourself yeah and also even mr beast we're talking about i'm excited about that 18 plus thing obviously it's not a real thing but like even Mr. Beast at some point like we were talking about his evolving

like he's not going to film that same exact thing forever right it's going to evolve our shit's already totally different yeah if you go back to the shit that was six years ago like it was completely different it has to that's the point and I love the old shit like I'm with the OG fans like when I go back and watch that shit I'm like damn that shit is fucking shows funny as fuck yeah but I also personally I personally love our new shit too

yeah I just think it's two totally different things yeah but I think at that point too when And, you know, it was clear to me that Jesse was not happy being involved in milk. That's when me and him started talking about, you know, things and, and, and him saying, like, you know, I'm kind of down to, like, officially, like, you know. Exit. Yeah. So we pretty much, we pretty much agreed on a number.

And, and that was it. Yeah. Yeah, we pretty much agreed on a number and he basically got a fat check. Chill on. Can you say what that number is? No, no, I'm not going to say it. And then he also owns like. Well, I got asked.

Guy over here. Yeah, I understand. I'm not going to say that. Book Club on Monday. Gym on Tuesday. Date night on Wednesday. Out on the town on Thursday. Quiet night in on Friday.

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I enjoyed it, like, I loved it. And for me, it's just, it's, and I get where he's coming from, too, you know? Like, I totally understand because there's parts, there's times to me where I'm like, pro, like, I don't want to do this sometimes, you know? I've woken up a few times. Like, yeah, it's just like.

Been like, how the fuck have you done this for so long and how do you still do it? Yeah, but I don't want to sound like a pussy, like complaining about it. Because I know everyone fucking works hard. everyone has to fucking work but just like anything else you know it's 95% fun and then there's that 5% where it's like fuck man like this is not fun and it's like shit like the bob shit for me or like other drama dumb shit like that or like it's it's always the shit that you never

signed up for that comes with it that it's like this is part of the game bro well i've talked about it before and it's it's relevant people only see what they're given right but there's so much more behind the scenes that happens it's just like it's a part of this whole thing thing and it's also like everything in life is not we talked earlier it's not supposed to be easy that's not the stuff that's going to make you better like the gym is a great example like I said it's hard you get better this stuff like you deal with stuff you get better all this stuff is supposed to be challenging like but you're right I mean I think people are fed this idea that you know if you love what you do you don't work a day in your life and I think that's absolutely

bullshit because I do believe like I'd rather be doing something that I love my entire life and that feeling like work even when it needs to be or because it has to be versus doing something that I don't love but I think people have this idea that they just they're going to stop working but it's also not true because no matter what like if it revolves around like money and other people like you have to make things work you have to like continue to go and it's tough especially when people it's tough there's ups and downs and everything you do absolutely I think I honestly like admire like I think that that took like a lot of fucking courage for him to like step away for sure like to really like put yourself first before like like you're like

And there's also uncertainty in this game. Like, you know, but like to be able to be like, you know what, like I'm done. I'm not happy doing this. Yeah. And like not have that fomo of like, oh, fuck. Like are they going to do this without me? Are they going to do this and that? But so I admire like his courage to just kind of be like, yo, like I'm going to live my life the way that like I want to live my life.

And I'm not going to let like comments or fucking people's opinions get in the way with that, you know. Good for him. I agree. Yeah. It's fucking hard, bro. Because I think, too, one thing I want to say is, like, people think that we're making all this money, too. But me and Jesse personally the whole time, there's money that goes into the NELC account. And then there's money that goes into your personal account.

Yeah, no, I get it. So that was the other thing, too, is me and Jesse weren't personally cashing out like everyone thinks we were. Yeah, I get it. The amount of money we were spending on videos and everything was just like money in, money out. I totally get this. Like, my money. It's fucked, right? Like, I don't think we took money out of the company for like a year and a half.

once besides a little salary like no merch commissions no nothing like yeah yeah and i think whatever he does next is gonna be it's gonna be good he's a very creative guy yeah he's super he's a mark guy funny motherfucker funny guy yeah like just you know nilk will never be the same without without jesse right like he was a fucking it was me and him that pretty much yeah it's not supposed to i mean no yeah to his credit too like i got to say i didn't even really know him that well because when i joined he was you guys were kind of doing your own thing but because of him were able to do this too so appreciate that yeah i mean all this all this is like like i said different phases yeah it's dope as fuck i'd love to honestly i want to have him on my podcast and talk to him

now i just this whole thing made you think about i think that'd be good and yeah i think yeah the reason i just always thought it would be good to just not i mean i said what i could but obviously i can't speak on what he was for sure going through right yeah i can't speak on it i can only kind of say what i what i witnessed and what i was going through too as well you know those those pranks And it was the knelk lifestyle. Yeah, I remember. It's not fucking easy sometimes, bro. Like, it's a fucking, it's nonstop, right?

No, I mean, yeah, especially when you're getting fucked with. Not that easy. I don't know. Was that like you're the only one getting fucked with thing? Or I don't know if you remember the two years of Steve calling me a drug dealer. No, I'm relating to you. I'm relating to you. Are you?

You know what I went through. Okay. Right? Yeah, I've been there. Yeah. I've been there. I think we've got to do like a full like milk reunion one day. Yeah.

I was going to ask you, you think you'll ever do a video. again you and jesse yeah i mean i mean i'm i'm obviously down i think that yeah i think i think like like i said i'm i messes jesse and he just i think he's just chilling bro like maybe i think but imagine though like just content wise to fans listen imagine like we did like just one one more road like dude just one they would love that shit bro that'd be insane m tv pat yeah dude that be I miss Pat. I love Pat. Pat's always so nice, man. He's always in my knee. I was like, yo, you're doing great. I'm proud of you. Pat's a beauty. It's a really, really good guy. Yeah, man. But I think it's just, yeah, I think there's got to be something at some point to have some sort of like little reunion thing. I may be fired. I think the bottom line is just like, yo, this even like people behind the scenes and too, like this lifestyle, bro, is not for everyone. No. Yeah. I think people, like I said, people just have a different perception of it because they just see it what it looks like. And like, we're on camera and it looks easy. We're sitting on couches. like this is this is probably the easiest content i've ever done just because i've naturally like

i guess a talker but all this other stuff man like there's how many trips and how many bus rides how many car rides to this to go shoot that like i remember when we got chased out of that bowling alley oh my god came out with a gun and we're like everyone's ducking in the fucking car because we're not trying to get fucking clipped like bro that was insane insane like we went to that where was that it was in the middle of nowhere and like in a place it was in uh it was in Idaho. It was in Idaho in a place where, like... Was that where Drusky was there, too? Drusky was there, but he wasn't with us on this at this portion.

Salim was in there. He stayed the fuck home. Yeah, yeah, yeah. No, he's smart for that. And it's in, and all I know is we're in there. And selim, like, he's, you know, how he does is like stone face shit. And the person's like, get the fuck out of here. And then I just remember at one point, they're like, I'll fucking kill you. And then, like, they started pulling guns out. We're literally, like, pulling guns out. Bullers don't fuck around. The bull. And also, I remember later on, like, people were saying where we were. And they're like yo you guys were going to get murdered and buried like that that place in

Idaho is not a place for like people will really just kill you it's like in the middle of nowhere so it was so sketchy bullies are strapped up bro I remember literally hopping in a van with with no security at that point I don't think we did but like we're not going to be a gunfight a shootout over a fucking bowling lane I don't know bro like they were it was like a whole bowling alley was like we're going to kill you all the all the boys yes you guys they were like it was like a little bowling click and they were like it was like a little bowling click and they were like oh you fucking with us we're all going to just get our guns and kill you i'm not playing like they're like we're going to kill you and then we're running out and i'm not kidding

selim and jay are like we're in we're jumping in the car and like we're head down trying to drive away and adrian's driving dude that that is people you wouldn't know it like because you'd only see what we saw on camera and it was this bowling alley thing and i think there was a clip somewhere but that's fucking stressful i remember i was like what the fuck am i doing like i'm not even going to lie that was the time when i was like your film are there yeah bro we're like what the fuck's happening has there ever been times when you personally were like fuck man i just want to like pack it in as far as this content no just in general well yeah i was there there was a time earlier i was talking when you went up to the bathroom when i was getting a lot of shit on the

internet for like you know this kind of negative talk from someone just pune some bullshit story just to make me look bad and i remember for like two years after i want to say a year after that i was almost like because i kept seeing these same bullshit comments people calling me a snake and all this shit and I remember being like man fuck these people like I've been for years prior to this all I did was good and put good content and information and talked about my life and people just flipped on me like that because they heard a story and I remember being like really resentful to that where I was like I don't even want to do this anymore I got resentful to the to the audience and then a part of me just like I just filmed video it's just because I knew that I had to but I didn't

really want to so I did kind of disconnect from it at a point and then I kind of fell in love with it again I would say like maybe two years fully after that point and then I was like fuck it just gonna let it go it's not fun when you're like about to post a video or you know you have to post a video and you're just like scared there's gonna be a bunch of like negative comments on it yeah you know like that that's what like takes the fun out of it for me too is like you're kind of you're like scared to post yeah i felt that man that was that was a crazy time in my life for sure but it's all it's all learning like i said like people who just continue to thrive or the people just continue to fucking do it and fucking find the way and they keep going they change

too, man. Just in this setting, I wouldn't have as much to say about anything if I didn't go through all that stuff. Just like you wouldn't have as much to say as much advice to give. Like life experience is the reason why at least even this content is most enjoyable for people listening. And like all that stuff that you went through like the dynamic of building a company, like having it like change over time and having personalities and shift and like this person needing more of this, this person needing less of that. You learn from all that. So now you come in a position here. And it's so, that's why I think this is so cool. Like this podcast and you just like perfect timing for for this and for us because then you can give that information to the people watching because

they're the ones in the next 10 years who might be the guy who gets on YouTube and blows up now and they go oh they learn like that was a crazy thing like when I got on all the social shit there was no and you too there was no like this is how you do it no there wasn't a fucking blueprint of like this is how you succeed and you can make money doing this like we just kind of created it all yeah so it's like you're you're like a fucking pioneer in this shit and I love that idea because now it's like we get to sit in this position just talk about these things and give insight that someone wouldn't be able to give or understand prior without actually being in it. So you have a lot to give because of all that shit. And you just kept moving

and I think that's just, that's what life's all about, man. And whether it's this or whatever else you're doing, that's, that's all it is. And that's why you've been successful. I know, we've been out of it for a long time, right? It's fucking, it's crazy to think back. It's eight years, eight, nine years. Eight nine years. Yeah. Fuck. I don't know. You look back and you're just like, how? Like, yeah, the craziest thing is when I meet kids who, who are like, 26 and they're like I've been following you since I was like this age. I know because I'm like what the fuck like motherfuckers grew up watching me that's the trippiest thing when they come to my gym and they tell me that shit I'm like what the hell but it's a blessing so like I don't think people

would give a fuck enough to come and listen to this podcast if there wasn't some sort of value there specifically these ones right the the internal ones because it's like is really just storytelling yeah yeah or going over stuff so I love it man I love this shit it's a little different one what's that The more serious internal pod. No, it's dope. I mean, it's necessary. It's good.

You need perspective. I don't think people don't, don't have enough of it sometimes. And they, you know, the Bob stuff, they judge and they judge just from what they know. If they don't have the perspective, how could they know differently? How can they judge differently? So. Changed a lot of people's lives. Yeah, that's true.

Mine's straight up. That's good. I think it was a good episode, right? Yeah. It's good for people to hear. Yeah. And yeah, I think we leave, maybe, maybe we'll do the Nokereunion one day when everyone's ready. One little, like, a little, like, week trip, dude.

Fuck. Mr. Mennery invited or no to imagine that would be crazy I think I think I think me and Bob will be I mean You guys will be friends again I promise you right now

Yeah I mean It's up to him I could forgive him But he'll get over You guys will be friends again All right so Next week is what Abu Dhabi

And then Miami after Abu Dhabi We're still kind of We're still waiting to here for sure Miami after Abu Dhabi We're still We don't know for sure If we're going to Abu Dhabi though We're still

Just be on standby We say Miami's gonna happen Miami we're gonna be in Miami after Abu Dhabi. We'll be out there for Halloween. What's in Miami? Will you dress up this year? You're not a costume guy.

I don't understand what's wrong to bro. I know. I'm not a big costume. What's up with that? I don't know. Gabe wants to get in here. Oh, you two are doing a costume? Believe it or not, Gabe, I'm trying to get in here.

Gabe, come sit down with your. No, no, no, no, no. No? Okay. Well, that's how we end the shit then. It's done. I think it's done.

Great episode. Fucking awesome. Yeah, thank you. Thanks to all the fans for fucking rocking with us. Yeah. Thank you. subscribe all that good shit super grateful thank you guys on iTunes Spotify everything we're on everything everything run it up let's go all right thank you guys