FULL SEND PODCAST - Oz Pearlman | Ep. 172

Episode Date: October 30, 2025

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level next level it's like magic of the mind i used to love magic when i was a kid too yeah yeah remember we were thinking about actually doing a magic off we were going to have uh david blaine versus chris angel should do that maybe throw you in like everybody like all the magicians and all the where would you rank like current magicians uh well we do a different thing so it's kind of like a different beasts because a lot of people will say to me at the end of the show like boxing m-ma like honestly that's like that's like who's the best yeah UFC it's the UFC it's the UFC of magic right I'm in if you do this I'm in wait so have you ever messed up somebody's head like so bad where they got pissed at you many times yeah I used to work at mob-owned restaurants and that's like

a place where you don't mess around because the stakes are very high like legitimately they're owned by the mafia and then uh some people like how you do that I'm like I can't tell you's like you can tell me. What was one celebrity that you really just shocked them? Larry David was a high water mark for me because Larry David was just so who he was supposed to be. Do you like curb your enthusiasm? You've seen that show? Of course. So I was at Pacific Palisades. I met some dude's house and I bent a spoon. A trick I don't do as often, but it's got like really fancy spoons and I bend the spoon. Kind of with my mind. And Larry David's right there. This is throwback man. That's like 15 years ago and I bend the spoon. At the end of that trick, everybody in

the world wants to see the spoon. Everybody's like, let me see the spoon. Everybody's like, let me see the spoon. So I hand it to Larry David and fully, like as if we're in an episode of Curbue Enthusiasm, he goes, oh, what the hell do you want me to do with the spoon? It was incredible. I was like, please tell me somebody filmed that because it was just so good. And then he gave it back to me to know what to do. It was just perfect. I saw the Joe Rogan with the pin. Yeah. He seemed actually kind of bothered by you. He was definitely a little pissed. So after that was, was their tension or was it just like, dude? No, it kept going. That's a three-hour podcast. You better get out of it. Yeah, that was, we got, we built some

rapport. Yeah. End of the show was like, you. you got to come back. I'm like, I'm coming back, Joe. Yeah, that was a great. That was a great thing. My mom was still long. So that's the best part of that because a lot of people will go online and they go, it's staged, it's scripted. I'm like, dude, how do you think I can get Joe Burrow to fake something? Like, what would I do? Come up to Joe and be like, you all pay $10,000. He's like, you'll pay $10,000. He's like, how, why would he do that? Wait, let me ask you this. I mean to interrupt. Have you ever been wrong? And you've just been

like, fuck. Many times. Really? Yeah. And how you fix that? You know what? If you're really good, people don't know you got it wrong. Yeah, you just keep. You just keep going. You just got an improv and keep it, come up with something else. Do you take the punch straight on or do you roll into the punch and then just keep going, just keep going. I just rip open a Happy Dad box and the answers in there. I've got like, things scattered around.

You're a big Happy Dad supporter too. You sent me some photos. I got photos at the beach when Kyle texted me. And I was right there and I'm like, I got two happy dads. I had a daughter in my hands. It was probably wasn't decent parenting, but I'm like, let me get a good photo for you. Hey, dude. How does your wife, like, how does she married to you?

I'm sorry. We should have her in here. That's a very good question. Bob level of paranoia. How can she deal with me? I don't know what she's thinking. Literally, I met her, and I used to have, this was my trick. This is my go-to trick at the bar to get girls, which is I look at their drink, and if it was a cocktail, Bob is listening.

See, Bob wasn't listening to anything, and now he's like, continue. I'm listening. Well, you prove me right, your magic worked once. And if there's a cocktail straw, there's a little straw in there, I would look at the straw, and it's kind of a magic trick, more than the mental, and I would just go like this, and it would start to spin around their glass, and then I snap, and it shoots out of the glass. Wow. And that was, that was it. We should blow tonight. That was in college.

That was an ultimate money, they'll teach us that, though. So I do that to my wife on our first date, and she goes, okay, you're going to get me another straw?

I'm like, oh shit, this is not working. This is not working. She's like, don't do any more magic. I was like, oh my God.

And she like can't move on you ever. No, yeah. Like, you'll know. Probably you should hire him to just roll with you. I just can't afford

Oz, obviously right now. But yeah, that's my goal is to get him fully employed under my thing so I can have him 24-7. Just on retainer? Yeah.

I like this business arrangement. Has a couple ever come to you and like, hey, I need you to talk to my wife? I have had very, very high level. I will not throw people under the bus. Like CEOs of Fortune 100 companies, call me and say, I want you hidden in a room, dress you up, pretend to be a lawyer while we're doing like mergers and acquisitions, negotiations to stand there and just tell me if the guy's lying or not. Like just what kind of advantage can you give me in that room?

And it's tough because I could be a little sleazy and say I'll do it. But I think I would give single digit percentage, but I can't do what I need, which is why don't I just go right now to Vegas and win at every poker game? Honestly, why not? Let's stop BSing. Why?

Because people in that room won't do what I want. I can't be like, look at me, do this, think that. There's a method to what I'm doing. Let's like, Steinie, great example. You're in a casino. What's your game of choice? Blackjack. Okay, you sit down at the Blackjack table.

Yeah. Do you have a rhythm? If you're playing Blackjack, most Blackjack players, do you just go by the book? If you've got... I usually just start out small, then go on tilt and just fire. Depends what substances are in a system. Exactly.

But if dealer is shown 20 and you've got a six, are you hitting on that? Or you're going by the book or are you staying? Every time I'm hitting. Okay. So he's a man of, see, you're regimented. If I guess this, let's say you just made a lot of money. Yeah. You left the blackjack table.

You go over to roulette. You walk over to roulette, take a big stack of chips, and you're looking at the wheel. You just go with your gut. You know your favorite number or whatever number you love, you put a big stack of chips right on there. before that, let's do a fun one. You bet on something specific. Your body count.

Fusing because he doesn't know what to do zero or double zero, right? That's one that falls in the one. One through 14 category or the roll. Can you do triple digits? You go with your lucky number. Boom, you put it down in there. You're going to guess it? I honestly don't know it.

He finally reveals sighting body count. I'm like three. Okay, please. Let's see what your guest would be. I'm one of them. No, not body count. I'll embarrass you here. No, you're not going to embarrass me.

Trust me. Hold on, hold on. You bet on one number. We're talking quantity. If you want to embarrass me, you talk quality. Quality is, yeah. You got to tell me how many people fuck the X too before the end of the deal. That's it. 123s. Oh, my God. I knew it was that high. Fuck. All right. Go ahead. Hold up. Let me see. What am I thinking

here? No, you bet on your lucky number. I want this to have some motions and feeling. Look this way. Think red, black. Think red, black. See, he nodded after I was done. So people mislabel. He nodded on the black, which means it's red. And then I say to what did you go with did you do this obvious close your eyes do any of you know what number

he bets on roulette no right stony there's no way i can know this this is not like public information close your eyes you guys closed everybody see what i wrote yeah yeah he's open your eyes you always go red and then you also do red when it's bet i'm sure too it's a red number isn't it yeah what'd you bet on seven seven oh god no no no no no no no no one for one bro. One for one. He's a fucking wizard. How do you?

Every time I go seven. Do you know why? You can't get that. No, I don't know why. He doesn't even know why. Let's take this scenario to the next level. Okay. You ran out of money.

Ran out of money. And we know what that's like. Boom. Black Jack's not treating you well. Roulette's not treating you well. Body count, definitely not triple digits. You go to the ATM. You swipe your card.

You type in your pin code. Oh, look how nervous. He just got. It's got Rogan style. Yeah, there's not much in there. How can you know? All right, let's go through this together. Okay.

Because there's no way. There's no way. Have you ever written this down somewhere? Have you ever whispered this to somebody? Have you told this to anybody? Family, maybe. Anywhere else? Previous girlfriend.

Okay. Is she here somewhere? You told your previous girlfriend, your ATM pin code? Yeah, she had to get cash for both of us. All right. She's in my room right now if you want to go. She's not. She's not.

Text her right now. Text her right now. I'll tell her after this. Call your family. Ask if I ask them somehow. Think of the first number. Imagine you hit the first number. You typed it.

Okay. Think of the second number. And picture yourself, where do you go? So hold out your finger right now. Okay. Third number, fourth number. You want to just, nope, you're doing great. Okay.

This is why I say, I can't just, I've got to watch you. So you did something twice. You did a back and forth. This is what I call back and forth is when you go. So if you do like, some people do corners for their pin codes, and they don't remember because he knows his number. He wasn't confused. but he knew the numbers.

I want to ask you one thing. The numbers at the top are the smallest. Here, me out. One, two, three, four, five, six, 79. And you went up. The second number is the second number the smallest of the numbers. Yeah.

See, you went up and you went back. No BS. What bank you have? Yeah, tell me everything. Chase. All right, cool. Let's go to Chase a little quick after this. I got into this place.

Seven, eight minutes ago, before I walked into this hotel, had we ever met or spoken a word in our life? no all right let's go first number second number third number do one more time the last number what do you mean like hold your finger out and pretend you tapped it you want me just actually do it i got to go with my gut i think the pattern is you went back and forth for the first close your eyes he still did not pay the no way everyone look everyone look i'm to show you guys stony you guys let's the first number in your code nine nine nine and then

You're seeing what I'm writing, right? People always tell me I wrote it afterwards. That's what we thought before, right, Gabe? Jesus Christ, if he's right, he'll be $5,000. You saw it'll be $5,000 in the NFL bet, by the way, so we will be going to the bag. We'll see how I did, man. We'll see how I did. What's, it's not a birthday.

You were thinking to somebody's birthday before, but this isn't a birthday that you used in your code, right? This isn't a birthday, is it? No. You were thinking of somebody's birthday. I wonder what that I'd do with this. One at a time, what's your ATM PIN code? 9196. 9196.

Yeah. What the fuck? Singed them. You can steal from people, bro. And the person you thought of, a different code, somebody's birthday, and you were thinking yourself, I was thinking of a birthday before, it popped in your head and you used another code.

August. That person was born August, August 11th. Is that the birthday you were thinking of? My mom's birthday. Right? Isn't it fucking fucked up? He's going to get psyched. He's not sleeping tonight.

This mind fucks you every fucking time. Jesus. It really does. It's crazy. Well, we're going to change a pink code now. I don't understand that. Okay, magic is one thing, but mentalism is this is a whole other thing. I got to change a pink.

How did you get to change your pink? How did you get the third number? Like, I get how you go 9-1. Last number? You still don't. That's fucked. He asked me if the second number was the smallest number, which it is. I don't know.

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your old school tricks right here buddy. I don't got shit no more. Nothing? I used to have that coin

that you could like bite or something. You know that one? He can do a rubic cube in 45 seconds. You can do a Rubik's in 45 seconds? No, like a minute 15.

A minute 15? That's my party trick. That's pretty good, though. That one works well, too. That one does work well. At the bar or when Stine makes me do it in first place. There's Rubik's Cube magic. There's some dudes who are like just Rubik's Cube magic.

That's what they do. I could do it pretty fast. I mean, going out with you must be such a deadly weapon to have. It was a deadly weapon in college. You can't tell us anything about how you do any of this, right? No, why would he? Don't even have. Dude, I just wrote a book.

It's coming out October 28th. Oh, really? Read your mind. Really? You're going to read that book. Literally, the cover quote is from my boy David Goggins says, Learn to Master the Most Powerful Weapon, Your Mind. Could you train somebody to do what you do?

So my book is not revealing mentalism tricks, and I'm going to tell you why that is a very limited subset of people who want to read that. If you really think about it, sitting here guessing his roulette number, what does that do for you in life? Not much, right? That's not like a big deal. I don't know. You could go around semi and just like fuck with somebody pretty bad.

I know everything and just keep popping in and out and letting him know that you know about them, and then you can kind of scare them. That's true. But beyond scaring people or entertaining people. that's kind of the limit, but the skills surrounding what I do of how to read people in business. How do you approach your boss to get a raise? How do you know if somebody's lying to you? Those are very good tactics. Memory. So a lot of what I do has a lot to do with memory. You don't realize it. But most of the stuff that people give you, they don't even realize

they give it to you. They give that information and you hold on it. It's like a coupon that never expires. Gabriel, are you a sports guy? Not really. Not really a sports guy. No. What are your passions? Men. Travel. He loves men. Yeah. Men. And That's true. Men? Food. Food. Food, travel.

Okay, so we went, food, travel, then men. Or maybe all three together. Am I right? That would be amazing. Live in large. Yeah. Picture this. What a list of hobbies.

Hold out. Hold out your hand. Imagine you got a globe in your hand. A globe. Yeah, like you got the world in your hand. Mm-hmm. And I want you to imagine, close your eyes, and you spin the globe, and it just starts spinning. And you just stop random.

You don't even open your eyes. He doesn't even know he's going to point, gentlemen. He doesn't know. If he doesn't know, he doesn't know. how could I know? You point at one place with your eyes closed. You're going to point it or just, yeah, you could do some acting, pretend. It points at one place anywhere in the world.

Open your eyes. And now when you open it, it's meant to be. Listen to me, it's destiny. It's destiny. Could have pointed any place, but he looks and he goes, no way. No way. This was meant to be. This is the number one place in the world you would love to travel to.

Number one place in the world you would love to travel to. Can you imagine yourself being there? Yep. eating good food being with attractive men the whole night the trifecta baby life is good watch what do i think he would have done now i'm judging what we have done do i see him do i see him like i see him relaxing i think this guy likes to relax said food he doesn't want to go and like i'm thinking a beach look he's freaking out probably a beach west hollywood Mickey's or West Hollywood

Rockups and West Hollywood Exactly Oh you've been that too much I went there by mistake once I'm sure everybody here The first letter When you do this a lot It's like your lips are dry

And then it hit me And then the water after Before this And then Gabriel You don't know me I don't know you He spins a globe Goes anywhere in the world

Anywhere in the world Tell us all Gable Where are you going on this trip Tell me Maldives What What the fuck?

I know how it's every fucking time I don't know that I'm gonna be honest I don't even know where that is I can't I mean either but we talk about this once where is that is fucking you knew about it no

I would have never we travel so much so it's like we talk about going there one time where you see like the water with all the huts and they're like yeah you get it like a little hotel in the middle and it had water in the bottom yeah this is no this is freaking me out you gotta get Bob now

this freaking me out bro you're good I'm saying good I'm saying So let's continue the conversation And don't fucking interrupt the wizard There's no explanation for that Yeah, you guys had no idea I want to go there Like with trouble so much

It's like And we're not even planning that trip I know that's the thing Because we go to so many spots too So it's not like he doesn't have Like And that place He was even torn between his number one

He was a little torn Yeah When he put his figure out And he opened his eyes He's like I don't even know What the fuck the place is There you go

Like in the map Yeah I think it's like Europe But like I don't know Where specific Can you give us one time you ever tell us a story ever where you were. You couldn't even point to Maldives on a globe right now, I bet you.

Not. Were you wrong? Oh, man, I've had just like, you know, flop sweat moments. Like a real embarrassing moment. So old school, like this is, you could, you might be able to dig these up on YouTube. But these are TV appearances that were like 15 years ago where I just didn't know what I was doing yet. And I had this one thing where I, it's a trick that I was famous for. I did on America's Got Talent where somebody thinks of someone famous.

And I take my business card. I'm kind of spoiling. I'm not going to do it right now. And I start cutting out what looks like a snowflake. I'm cutting, and I'm cutting, and I'm folding, and you're like, where is this going? And then I say to you, who are you thinking of? And let's say you go, I don't know, I'm thinking of, you know, the rock. I unfold it, and it's Dwayne the Rock Johnson.

It's a silhouette. Like, I cut out his face as a silhouette. So I did that on a morning show, and I cut somebody out, and I can't even remember who it was. And I'm like, who are you thinking of? And they go, Bruce Willis. And I totally cut out with John Travoltax. Does it look like it was just, just gut punch, nothing, go to commercial, eat a steaming pile of shit.

And it's like you learn. Oh, that's a bad one. You know what's good about that? You learn that life goes on and that probably not that many people watch it. And frankly, when you get it wrong, the fails do better than the win sometimes. So that was kind of pre-internet. But nowadays, some of my videos, like I had a thing with John Cena go a little bit wrong where John was like squeezing my arm.

And everyone in the comments went 10x because they're all like, I know how you did that. And so when people think they caught you. things go viral authenticity is with virality like i did a clip with dk metcalf oh that's my brother right there dk's the man dk's the man where i unlocked his phone dk's dear dear friend dk's the best and i unlocked his phone shout out to dk and it was his jersey number twice it was 14 14 which when i did it i was furious because i'm like this is so obvious but you know what happened on instagram is everybody went back and on tictock would rewatch the video because i did it so quick to try and see if they could get what it was and the algorithm

loves when you re-watch a video over and over and over. So it hits the discovery of that thing went viral, just exploded. So a trick that you think kind of went wrong, went so right. You got a lot of ladies, like, we have a wife, but you have a lot of ladies slide in there? A lot of dudes, unfortunately. A lot of just random dudes are like, read my mind or give me the parlay. I get, every time I'm on ESPN, 100 dudes are like, please tell me, what's the line's going to win the spread this season.

Are they going to win the game? Wait, can you do anything with that? I've been pretty good at predicting Super Bowls, even though I know when this hits, people are going to go through all the ones I got wrong, but that's not psychic stuff. That's not, like, that's not a trick. That's me guessing. What about, like, a person's, like, pregame, like, body language or, like, interview. Can you tell how they're going to perform?

I can usually tell some levels of if there's deceit or if there's deception. Like, if they're going to say somebody's injured and when are they going to be back? And I can tell you, and it doesn't, I feel like they were holding something back right there. But that's good instincts. Yeah. So when these teams call you, like, the NFL and stuff, they just call you and say, hey, Oz, we want you to perform for us in front of people? It goes through a lot. It goes through ESPN, even though it's gone all over, but Adam Schaefter, shout out to my boy. If you guys know, Adam, the guy who started the whole thing up with me. So at this point, we get more teams coming to us than I can do. I kind of only do usually two or three per season, NFL, and I'll do a couple of college ones, but it's team building. So at summer training camp, they have different speakers come in, they have different people come in. I go in there, do my thing for them. We film it, and then we air it all over, you know, social and TV. But in the room, we get these guys fired up.

Because think about the dynamics in the room. These guys aren't necessarily teammates yet, right? If you're the second string quarterback, you're kind of gunning for that guy's job right there. And some of the people just got traded in. They got trade out. Not everybody knows each other in the room. So if you can create the camaraderie, like do some crazy moments. They're laughing.

They're back slapping. The fans love it, but there's a real value for the coaches. They wouldn't keep bringing me back if it was just fun. Yeah, I have no explanation for that. It's impossible. The maldise one is pretty impressive. The hand job one behind this. You're three for three.

It's pretty good. I have the body count, zero double zero. Thought that was pretty solid. That was a good job. Oh, that's good, yeah. What about, like, can you like if Kyle or Bob had like a girl, a celebrity girl that they, like, wanted so bad? Do you think you could guess it? That could be online or something, though.

Put it? I don't really pay attention to that. Yeah. Kyle's going full tilt Sydney, Sweeney, I'm sure. Yeah, exactly. Blue that one hard. Blue that one hard, buddy. Huge.

That was bad. Yeah, that was bad. Okay, sorry. We'll give you a sliding scale, which Bob, I know a lot about you. We've done something before. So I always tip it. When I say, I've never met you before my life. I tell people that.

But Bob, I've met. There's history. There's history. Crazy Night in Scottsdale. And Bob told me his three favorite things in life, I believe they were mentalists, tornadoes. What was the third? Mentalist, tornadoes, and fuck, I mean, Zaps is up there.

Yeah. So that's that, that's the, that it is. Yeah. His was food travel guys. We got you locked in. I'm one of the three. I occasionally pop a little thinger and just have a little fun. It's a bad habit, but yeah.

So if we were to give you, if I were to give you a sliding, scale, and I would do it in tornado terms. And this is, right now, I call it an F1 tornado. And I want to make sure, I ask you to make up a question right this second. So people don't say later all, this is set up, this is stage. If I told you to make up an F1 question right now. Okay. No, no, forget the phone.

Get rid of the phone. I don't need a phone, nothing. If I say to make up a question that's F1, that would be how, what's an F1 tornado? You've seen those before, a little dip, right? Little nothing. Yeah, the little baby ones, yeah. Boring. I don't want to do that.

If I guess it, that's like getting seven. Everyone bets on seven. So I want you to look through, and let's keep going. Did you make one up just in this moment in F1? Were you struggling a little? I was struggling a little bit to think of the question. That's fine. That's what I like, that texture that it's real.

I'm going to let you sit with this. But in your mind, take a moment and think of what would be a slightly harder question for F2? Okay? And just we're going to give Bob a few minutes on this because he hadn't done this. What would be an F2? What would be something a little harder where you're like, what would I think? What could he not know about me? and then F3 and then F4 and F5 would be insanity.

Stu, stew on this right now because I know we haven't done these. And I'm going to come back and we're going to revisit in a moment. Thank you. Thank you for my time. If I guess a place like this, Kyle, Stiney, how many people do you FaceTime or call on a daily basis versus text? Do you ever call people or almost never?

More FaceTime. You FaceTime? Yeah. So funny. A lot of people FaceTime. Kyle FaceTime. Both. So if you could call somebody right now that you know it would answer.

Stanie, do you have instantly, without looking, I can tell you to look at your phone and look through. Sometimes I do that, but like, do you know who would answer the phone? Do you have those people that are like the lock that always answer? Yeah. Think of one of those people. Okay. Kyle just nodded. I know you did that too.

Kyle, if you were to call this person, okay, and you just got somebody or are you thinking more than one? I have two. You have two? Yeah. Kyle, you got one. Is that right? Yeah. That I chose, yeah.

Okay. I think it's a guy. Is it a guy? She was a woman. You would have more excited. I could have told. All right. If you get this guy, if you call this guy right now, can you text this guy right now, text this guy and say, are you around?

Make sure no one can see your phone. There's no freaking way I can know who you're texting. Are we in agreement? Hey, there is, Kyle, there is no setup that I could know who you would have thought of nothing. Is that right? No, no way. Steinie was definitely thinking of two dudes. Is that right?

No. Oh, two girls? One guy, one girl. Okay. Impressive. Seeing his bias. The girl's a little more butch I could tell. A little more what?

Now he's just lying. Stein's going to lie and try and fuck things up. You're not going to tell you. If you just text to him, is he around? I have two. Yeah. I just texted.

Yeah. See your response. Okay. Said yeah. Well, he's around. Okay. Do this. You have your phone out.

If we were right now, how would I describe this? If I get my phone out too, if you just texted him, he said, yeah. Is that right? Now, I know what people are going to say

if you're texting, maybe there's some way I can see what's on your phone. That's what people say to me. So I want nothing like that. I want nothing. where I could, no phone, no nothing, audio only. Okay.

I want you to call this person, so it's voice, and the name will not appear. Is that right? Like, when you call, don't say the person's name. There's no way I can know what this is. Yo, what's up, bro? We can hear him on the microphone? Yeah, yeah. Tell them we're doing like a mind reading thing.

I know. We're doing like a podcast. Oh. Did you just say his first name? Yeah. You just said it. Well, he didn't say his first name. No, he didn't say his first name.

You didn't say the first name? No, no, no, no. I didn't know what he said. So you didn't say the first name? No. I mean, not real. We're doing, not, we're doing, sorry, we're doing a, we're doing a podcast with a mentalist, our friend right now. And he's going to potentially guess something that only you would know that I, that you would know from our past.

Okay. Did you say his name? I'll change. A nickname. Yes. But would I know this person? No, you wouldn't. No, you wouldn't.

Tell him right now to just say hello twice into the first. phone. Say hello twice into the phone. Hello, hello. Dude sounds like he has a, you know what, I feel like you should be named like Noah, but I think his parents screwed up. I bet the name, is his name Jason? Yeah. His name's Jason? Yeah. Did you tell me who you're going to call? No. No. And not many people actually even know his name. Did you know that? No. I don't fucking know his name. I don't know your fucking name. Jason, that's right? Yeah. Yes. If you ask him a question right now that there's no I can note would you asking the question is there any way that I could

find out the answer from you asking the question not impossible yeah I can't look this up chat GPT nothing yeah okay ask him the question one word at a time very slowly I like one word like what is or like however you're going to ask it go slow go slow okay it's a funny question one word at time no what country stop what the fuck keep going what country in europe stop oh man you're giving a lot away oh holy crap are you making this easy for me this is this is the layup for the wizard yeah dude not really amateur hour is it going to give away anymore when you just do this no okay keep going what country in europe did the neighbor get mad at us when i begged to grow in the alleyway

stop. Be honest. There's no way I can know this, right? This is an impossible thing. No, don't answer it. Don't answer it. It's not set up. It's not staged.

Don't answer. Don't answer. Don't answer. Yeah. I'm just thinking I saw too. You don't need to think. We have a wizard here for you. I could be wrong, though, but I have it in my mind.

Okay. I don't have in my mind. I wrote it down. And I'm trying to read him. You called anybody. You could ask him any question. I couldn't know the answer to. Tell him.

What is it? What do you think it is? I think it was. Spain, but I could be absolutely wrong. Where? Where? What city? Is that right? I was

even thinking of it like that, but yeah. Where do you think it was? Barcelona. That's what I said. Barcelona, Spain. Holy fuck. That's insane. Yeah, he guessed it, and I know. How is that possible, right? I didn't even know that. That's wild.

I forgot from here, too, actually. I was trying to remember. Like, what countries do that? All right, we'll talk to you soon. You bang a girl in the Barcelona? Yeah. No, like that side of our Airbnb. That's crazy. I mean, yeah, I don't get that.

It's the real deal. This is what it is. I don't doubt it's magic. This is no chance. You're really good at what you do. Thank you. It's very impressive. I mean.

Yeah, it's just. The thing is with magic, it's always like slight of hand or you know, it's some sort of, but with mentalism, it's different because it's like. You're waiting for the moment. I'm always waiting for you to be wrong You just haven't been wrong It's pretty crazy Usually you hit pretty strong

But there's backup measures and backup plans You gotta go in with a What do you do if it goes wrong So it's a kind of fun exception Like how? Right I mean how did you find that out? There's no way

Right You know you guys didn't know that And he knew Jason's name too When you call them You didn't even know Nathan's name Did you know his name was Jason? Yeah

Yeah Do you know? No offense or no No? No You don't know 905 shooter? No I didn't know we should carry this onto a vlog and go out tonight

and see what he can do that helps us out tonight in New York it's not a bad idea and his name's not even saved as Jason my phone too it's 9-0 so that's insane they're speechless yeah no literally not how long we going for here he's done he's like I got nothing else to say I mean that's it's gonna be here just shocked

I love him this there's no way that yeah the Bianca thing back in the day there's no way that anybody couldn't know that I've never told anybody that nobody even knows that what you're talking about explained to us the hand job thing when he nailed that that was fucking insane would nail it like a

He did. I'm telling me. I said it. Bianca nailed it is what I was told. Bianca nailed it. Yeah. Big target. We were in Scottsdale. How do we even get hooked up? Somebody, I'm trying to remember who was that. Hiller. Who was it? Hiller. Oh, yeah, Hiller. Yeah. Shout out to L.A. Zach Hiller. Zach was the one who linked us up. And I was out running. I think I was running 20 miles. He's like, dude, you're in Scottsdale. Go hit it at. I'm like, where's he at? He's like, just hit him up right now. And then I didn't even know where you were. That was a funny night. Who was there? Was there girls there? A bunch of girls. Really? Random girls.

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Oh, you guys did a pod in the past. Yeah, yeah. We did. I think there was a separate pod. There was a fork in the road. Never aired, obviously. Yeah. It's always like one of the things.

with classic dogs. Bob just got in trouble is what happened. Always. Weird a little. You remember that? Menry was trying to compete with Portnoy when Portnoy launched BFFs and then Menry's like, I'm doing it with Griffith John too.

Oh, my God. We did one episode in the basement. That was it. Me and him. I built that set. Dude, so much energy went into that for one episode that just barely aired. Classic Bob added comedy. That is pretty good.

I did BFFs and Portnoy wasn't in the room. He was remote from Florida. And he was just angry the whole time. It's such a good video. because they didn't tell him what I was going to do. So the whole time he's like, he's just mad. And he's like, I don't know how to hell you did that. I'm going to watch it's 100 times.

He's like, yeah, it was good. I was like, what do you rate it? Come on, pizza, one bite. He's a 10, but I hate you. I was like, okay, that's good enough. That's good. There's no explanation for it. Yeah.

He wants to get to the bottom of things. But is there a way where people can go online and actually see what you, because there has to be other people that do what you do. Yeah, of course. So you can learn to do mentalism, but mentalism has steep learning curve. So again, steep learning, it's kind of like base jumping, right? Where if it goes wrong, it goes very wrong. So in comedy, how do you describe it?

Like, comedy, you have to be funny and only an audience can tell you if you're funny. You can't really practice comedy in a mirror. Do you see what I'm saying? You can't practice comedy by yourself. You can maybe tell the joke, but you don't know if it's funny until you do it with people. Magic, you can practice in a room by yourself for hours, for weeks, for months. And then when you go do it for people, it's probably going to work. Do you get what I'm saying?

Like, you're really good with cards. you pick the card you put it back i know exactly what moves i'm going to do i'm going to fool you it's going to work mentalism is very different because again it's like comedy you can't really practice so a lot of the stuff when you see me do it on tv you are actually seeing me do that for the very first time there that i've never done that trick ever for anyone before that moment like this season i can't really spill the beans because not really a few of the football teams there's i did three NFL teams this season but there's i don't want to tell you i'm not supposed to say But it's going to be throughout the season.

But with one of the teams with a very famous player who is very quick. But anyhow, I'm not going to say anymore. There's a trick that I've never done with anybody else. It won't work in any other room. It was specifically for them in that moment, never did it before. And there's nothing you could do if it went wrong. And you're like, how could this and this and this all come together? Like three different crazy puzzle pieces with that level of surprise.

And they don't know what will happen. If it goes wrong, you're just screwed. Right. That's the fun part about the exciting part. What about like a trick that you're trying to master or something? that you haven't done yet that you've been trying to do. I'm trying, I have an idea that isn't really a trick. Again, it's like a human psychology, which is, for the last 20 years after every single

show, people ask me a few different questions. The first question is always, how the blank did you do that, right? How did you do it? How do you do it? That's what everyone asks. The next question typically is something related to finances, where somebody, if they're like, certain demographics, like, tell me what stock to pick. other people go, give me the numbers, man, what are the lottery numbers?

And so I can't tell you the lottery numbers because I'm not psychic. I'm not pretending to be a psychic. I don't have supernatural powers. But I think I figured out a way to possibly win a lottery, not the lottery, but a lottery. Which, again, is like studying people, studying patterns. And if you think about it, how do most people, in a heist movie, they always try and drill the safe and how do you get into a safe? Do you pick the safe? No.

You get someone who knows the code. to give it to you. That's the easiest way, the best hackers in the world, social engineer. The easiest way to get into a safe, get the person who knows it to give you the code by accident. 9-196, I'm going to screw this guy over and take all his money at Chase later. We've got to fly to him to Kyle's fucking apartment and he's not there and hit a safe one time. So now, my thought is I've studied kind of lottery systems and not all them are built equally. It's the same way that people cheat at cards, the same way that people can count cards and then casinos get wise to it. And at a certain point, a casino can tell you, they know you're

counting cards. They know, do you ever read that book? Bring it on the house. Where they have teams, they signal in, and you have a statistical advantage. And then once they figure out how you're doing that and somebody's sitting there losing on small hands, they bring in a whale. Now you're betting big when the counts high. That's something that you figured out. So again, I've been trying to figure out a way to do that. And I want to do something really splash you when I do it. But I think I'm really, really close on knowing how to win a lottery. Not the lottery. Hell, I would have won the $1.8 billion. I would have given you each some. That would be doing well.

We'll get in on that idea. Lottery? What lottery? I can't tell you. I can't. So that's 100% when I do this, when it's dropping, it's going to be a big splash, but I can't tell you in advance because it's just like a zero-day exploit. The moment it's known, it's going to get patched, I've been assured it's legal. So it's kind of like counting cards at a casino. You can't actually, this is getting way too in the weeks.

I don't think you get prosecuted, but they can kick you out and they can fix the problem. But they had the problem. So me exploiting it isn't technically illegal. It's your problem that you had it wrong. ground upon. I found the loophole. Okay. Interesting.

Having four of you guys in a room would be so much more interesting and just having you guys go at it, like poor mentalists, zinging each other with all fucking... We don't even have to talk. We just look at each other and laugh and figure it all out. Pretty impressive. Holy shit. Does Bob have a F. Oh, yeah, we have a question.

F3, F3. Hold on. Look this way of me. Look this way of me. Here's all what you do. Yeah. Now, when you told, when you said the question, you went, what is the country? And as soon as you said country, you're just limited.

A million answers down to what. Do you see what I'm saying? No, no, I get it, but I want to try this. So, Bob, I want to avoid any word other than the start. So the question is probably in that what, who, where, why, how. You see what I'm saying? You're going to start with a question. Let's go to F3.

Yep, I'm on F3. The F1 was probably too easy. F2, you wrestle with you didn't know. And by the time we got to F3 and I don't buy F4, I don't even know if you didn't F4. You probably didn't get to it. Then F5, I'm like, you're struggling. F3, and I don't care.

if this is written down. This does not need to be written down. This can be in your head. Okay. What's the first word? The first word is what? Okay. So again, like you did, what is the? Keep going, but anything that gives away, anything that could give away, like, what is the country? What is the, start asking me the question, but give nothing away that's like, give something away. Just start slowly, ask the next word. What was? Stop, was. Okay, so past tense. you're not going to figure me out this time buddy the same fucking happening again here now listen the order in which i do things matters right now is going to say what if you get it wrong

why did i do f1 or f2 ask yourself that so you ask you why did i do those well maybe that i got it wrong maybe i didn't know f1 or f2 so i made him keep going until you got something i would want him to do you also asked this guy nine no you asked him a question that was about the two of you you could ask any question you could ask him like dude where did you go on vacation a year ago i all right how could I know that how could you did something about the two of you I think Bob didn't do something about himself that's that's my go am I right don't show Kyle don't show anybody hide it put it away put it away in the pocket delete it I don't even want it to be any anywhere I want nothing anywhere get rid of what did you do a text you do you send somebody

nope no doing that okay I think this has to do with somebody else is that true statement that's correct I think that Steinie helped me by accident really of course he did he's the rat Of course you were. Yeah. He's the rat. It's not a real life name. Earlier when I said, you're playing blackjack. All this has a method.

It's all layers. It's all like the usual suspects movie. You thought of first putting money down in the roulette wheel. Then I asked you about a pincoat. And I said, would anybody know your pin code? And you said, yeah, my ex-girlfriend. And then after that, you know what you said? You said, someone in my family.

Rewind this. Watch it again. And that's when you thought of a code. And that's when I said to you, and I guess that birthday, August 11th. And you were like, Right? How did you know that? And it's because you had thought of that person and you said that person's name and that made you think of that person. Ready for this? When I said August 11th, I had no idea whose birthday that was. I swear on my life. I had no idea, but you go, that's my mom's birthday. And right when you said that, planted a thought in your head. This question has something to do with your mom, doesn't it? Damn. All right. Am I right? Yeah, you are. You are very right. The question isn't, what's my mom's birthday? Is it?

No, it's not. Okay, because, like, that would have been too obvious. That's cookie cutter. So, all right, let's go. Let's keep going with this. I knew what had something to do with your mom. Because you looked at him. He said, Mom, made you think of your mom. F2 had nothing to do with your mom. F2 had nothing to do with your mom have to do with you totally different. Good. So everyone knows this. And you change your mind over and over. This is all you. Yeah, I kept going back and forth. I just established the question was pretty much just now. Why is Bob all serious all? I don't know, because I'm getting freaked out of a little. Mom's all serious. You're getting closer. All right. I'm going to say. I hope you're wrong.

The question isn't what's your mom's name, is it? It is not my mother's name. Okay. The question has to do with your mom, the answer to the question, how many words are in the answer? Do you want to answer that right now? Just how many words? Just one word. One word?

Okay. Count the number of letters. Open your eyes. Okay. Count the number of letters in that word to yourself, to yourself. Don't say it out loud. Okay. It took a while.

You guys see what I'm saying? It took a while. that wasn't like boom that was done that felt like a word that was if I had to count it out

much this 7, 8, 9, 10 maybe a little hungover from last night maybe extended a little was Monday night football 7 89

6 7 89 7 8 9 7 letters 7 letters that is correct it is 7 letters that's just fuck that's a tough one it's no I don't know but close your eyes

cover them with your hands cover them with your hand I don't know what this means so I'm telling you right now I'm just telling you I think it's a name I don't know with this part I hope I didn't get this part wrong

because it's a little creepy open your eyes what was question F1 that you made up on the spot in the moment F1 yeah what was F1 I wanted to know F1 was not

there was only F2 F3 and F5 that I Perfect so this isn't even like he didn't even know when I asked me a question what was F2 just asked me the question What did the last girl

I hooked up with due for a living Okay so that would lame Right influencer obviously I'm kidding What is the question See he changed his mind He did these in order

You couldn't know what he would do next What was the question What's the question for F3 F3 was what was the name of my mother's friend That just passed away the other day All right man This is This is

Fucking dark No I mean I don't I don't think of it You ready What was the name my mother's friend That just passed away the other day Not funny at all But dead

A friend named Barbara Wow yeah good job Wow really fucking good I don't know if I should laugh that. It's kind of weird. That's pretty impressive. Rest and peace to Bobbaudillie. Yeah, RIP. Unfucking believable.

Holy shit. RIP. Can I ask you something? How effective do you think you'd be in like, like you see CSI Miami or like ongoing investigations? Why wouldn't they bring you in or something like that? I might try that as my next career. I'd be open to it right now.

I like what I do too much that I don't want to be in like. Yeah. Can you imagine being cross-examined by this guy? Oh my God. You be fucked. But then once they get him in, they're never going to let him go too, right? CIA is a hold.

That's true. For a long time. You're going to have that thrash and shit. The agency will be in. That's pretty impressive, dude. Holy shit. I've found out. The interesting part is that when you interrogate people, I've read quite a bit about this

and extensive. There's not really as much body language to know if somebody's lying or telling the truth because if somebody is in a situation where they're uncomfortable enough, they'll say anything to get out of it. So you don't really, it's fascinating as to what will and won't work in that setting. In that setting, when the stakes are very high, it's different. it. This is very loose. If you guys got, if this was over something like life or death,

I don't know that it would work with them. The stuff that you would give away wouldn't work. People would tighten up in a different way. Right. And he would never admit if you actually got the answer. But there could go like probability, like a lot of detector chests, you know. It's high probability. Yeah, because he could be saying whatever. Yes, he killed.

How the hell? Seven is actually most commonly played roulette. Yeah, no, I figured that. But that has nothing to do it. Yeah. Even though in California, it's eight. So if I picked a harder number, then I should have thought that went through, right? Yeah, well, I'd pick seven.

Because that's my number. That's the number. I'm not going to lie. Bin code, Barbara, fucking Barcelona is crazy. Maldives was probably the craziest line. How do you get, like, that's where I don't get us? How do you get the name of the lady that passed away? Seven letters, older woman, Barbara, statistical analysis.

Who knows? Who knows? I'm waiting. I'm leaving a big finale. Are we still going or what? I'm leaving something at the end. You got all day, bro. I want to do all the stuff that I want to do all of them.

Dude, I actually need your help on the low to find out some shit. So I'll just talk you later about it. Offline, but I was going to be like, I need you to watch. this video and tell me if she's lying. Yeah, exactly. Can you see it? You got to do it. This is crazy, dude.

I literally just told you maybe 20 minutes ago that I was going to be on the podcast. I was like this point in a podcast. You told me it was Freezer. Yeah, but Freezer couldn't make his flight. So I told him, like, yo, I'm on the freezer as his shirt off right now, Hamrid. He's fighting something on the airplane. Missing everything. Uh-huh.

That's fucking crazy, though, brother. Holy shit. Watch this. Watch this. You ready? We'll give you a chance at this one. Me, my grand finale. So I want to do all of mine.

I like to create scenarios, right? I can just tell you to think of something, but it's not as fun as making it a scenario. We're in a hotel. Yes. Okay. Spoiler alert. And over there's like a big banquet room next door. And the scenario I wanted to give you, okay, you're not going to notice, Kyle, is that

you're not as in the sports. Is that right? No. Steiny, Bob, big sports guys. Yeah. That in that room are 50 men, 50 great athletes, passed and present, all in there, all different sports, too, no less. Each of you is going to visualize this as if we open the door and one athlete walks through and comes in, okay?

Walks in and sits down next to you. Steinie, can you look to your left and see who your person is right there? Yes. So I want you to picture this as if that person walks in and sits down next to you right now. Don't do this. Can you see it? Yeah. And Kyle, for you, you're kind of a numbers guy.

Your job, a date, a date that has literally, I don't know the meaning, I don't know what, couldn't be more. random that as if you pick up a calendar. How old do you? 31. 31. So you're born 94, I assume. Yeah. Right. So let's say you have a stack of calendars right there from 94 to 2025. And you have very specific date in mind. You move the calendars aside. And you reach up and you grab this one calendar for that year. You grab it. You flip through the months. January or December, I don't know where you land. You go to one specific month. You're on one specific date. You circle that day. You highlight it. Can you see that month, day, and year? Clear is. day, correct? I did not tell you what to say, what to pick. This is random. You came up with this

like as random as it gets. Is that right? True story. True story. All right. I'm going to go one at time, one at a time. Let's see. Holy fuck. Where are you from? Brazil. Brazil. All right. So who do you have done? Who do you have done? Shouldn't have said Brazil, bro. Just fully gave it away. Not really. I think so. I think so. I think so. I think He would never, I don't think he would have done. And then I said something in Portuguese, the Portuguese hits. Cristiano Ronaldo, isn't it? Holy fucking.

Was it Christiano Ronaldo? You imagine walking in the door? For real. Yes. Yes. Stani, you got your person? Yeah. Take, I'm going to pass this down to you.

I want you to write down that person's first and last name on here and hold it close to your body. Make sure there's no way I could see it. You got it close to your body? Yeah. This wasn't pick your favorite person. This was totally random. This is something where I can't do my research where you could say to me later,

oh, you look this up. You must have gone on an old NELC video. When was NELC for him, by the way? Channel was made in 2010. So you're going back like 14 years ago. All right, look this way at me. See, I couldn't look this up because you didn't even know who you were going to pick.

You didn't even know. I'm saying to myself, what would he go with? Likes basketball the most. You like basketball the most, don't you? Yeah. And then football season, you get fired up. Yeah. So you decided, he decided,

can't do those. It's too obvious. It's too obvious. Where do you live? L.A. Shohay Otani, isn't it? Turn it around. Oh, hey, Otani.

Come on. That is definitely not how you spell it. I don't know how to spell it. Wow. Soon he said, L.A. and smiled. Come on, baby. Keep it, keep it tighter. I'm looking over here.

Yes, sir. And I'm saying to myself, where'd Bob go? Where'd Bob go with this? And I didn't even. Yeah. I think he thought of rest in peace, Barbara. Yes, RIPP, Barbara.

I think. It's a morbid day. I think we got like a pattern going. on with Bob. Bob is usually life of the party. Life of the Instagram. Your Instagram is a whirlwind. I love your stories. You never know what's going to happen. That's right. Damn sweet. Sorry about calling you a fucking other day. You know, your person, think of their first name. Yeah. And then think of their last name. Okay. I just did that. Okay. Go back and forth. Okay. Look this way at me. Yep. First name. Yep. Last name. Done.

You have not written this down. You have not whispered this. You have done nothing. Literally. See in this person, walk in this room. Go back to, go back. Oh, first name, first name. See, you did his lips. Watch. See, yeah, it's like a balloon. It's like a bubble poppin.

The first name, the first word, it starts the B. The first word starts with a B. No, stop. Look at me. Yeah. No. Well, I don't think it does. Hold on.

No, you definitely, look at me again. Yeah. Why did you jump to the second word like you thought the second word? No, the first word. Black Mama, Kobe Bryant, isn't it? 100%. Correct. correct what the fuck yeah good job

very good job i mean yeah that's that's just there's a good job dude here's what you do right down the dead friend bobber's fucking insane right down nobody even knows bobber died here i'm gonna give you i'm gonna give you this write down the month day and year okay you have calendar in your hands we had 1994 to 2025 picked it up you flipped it open right down month day and year and why soon as gabriel you cover my eyes don't show it to a camera don't show it to anyone

Month day and year of what? I told him to make up something that has no real meaning, right? You picked one out, and I said, I called a challenge day. I thought it, write down whatever it was, month, day and year that you picked. Out of those, what is it? 31 calendars, 12 months, 365 days in a year. Did you write down a month day in a year? Yep.

Soft hands, by the way, Gabriel, soft hands. Yeah, I'll be. I'll be drinking off a lot of guys say that. I think I might have just got, yeah. Yeah, she ever like that. Get some baseball. Probably, yeah. I think you did this recent.

I think you went recent. It could have been 20 years ago. It could have been, you know, freaking, this could have been something to do with the anniversary. Could have been birthday. Could have been Christmas. Could have been anything. My man has been running with the shirt off a lot lately. You notice that?

Getting ready for a big race. He likes the summer. I bet it was last year. It's 2004, isn't it? And it's a few days right after a big occasion with something fun. July, July 17th, 2004. Is that where you just wrote down to show them? July 17th,

No way. You picked that. You made that up yourself. Grammy, can I grab the pad? I want to show you something. What is that number for? Is there any significance of that? Well, it was five days after my birthday. Wait, wait.

Think about this for a moment. I want you to think about this. Okay. July 17th. Oh my God. Do you know what that date means? I have a meaning to you? Because I'm looking 717.

24. Does it have a specific meaning? Because check this out. you could have picked anybody any athlete yes christiano rinaldo do you know what his jersey number is

no do you guys know yeah i don't know i do it's pretty famous yeah 17 c r7 christiano rinaldo wear seven what is choheyotani's jersey number fuck i'm gonna get roasted i can't even think of it

is 17 right now is it seven no check it ask what's showy otani's can't find it yeah you're confirming it 17 17 17 yeah what's Kobe Bryant's jersey number. 24.

7.17. 24. It all makes sense. It all makes sense. But you remember, I asked you a question. I said, when was, you changed the internet. 15 years ago, the Nelk boys, 7, 17, 24. No way.

Fuck off. No. Wow. That's crazy. What the. Damn. That's crazy, bro. No.

All right. I'm not going to be able to sleep tonight, bro. We must. I'm impressed. Now I'm impressed. That's fucking nuts. That's, I don't know. That's, yeah. Very well done. Very well done. We've got to get a round of Z Wizard. Z Wizard. That's good.

That's good. Very nice. I'm one of my last question, though, because that one nobody was... Hey, Gabriel. I'm leaving you on more. That's how I get back on, man. Wait, wait, can I see the... Can you show it again? The top of it? No, the other side. That's the date he wrote. Okay. That's his date. It's his date he wrote. Oh, that's the three Jersey

numbers. And that is Nelk, everybody Do you ever go out for just drinks on a rink? That is just You ever go off drinks on a rame Friday and just fuck with people?

Oh, she has an explanation then. When I met my wife This is going back like 16 years ago Did you meet your wife using magic? He said he did the straw online But then when I started doing magic

She was not into it But no I had a guy This is on 56th and second Shout to this guy And it was Benjamin But he was he worked at the deli You know your deli guy

You guys L.A. Different but in New York Like your deli guy you know I would try new stuff on this dude all the time He was like my go to this guy's from Nigeria, he would leave, he would literally run out of the establishment over and over. So I would do stuff where I'd just stand there, and this is before I would film this.

I should have filmed this like you guys did. I'd film like some drunk kid coming in and I'd be like, take that dollar right now. And he goes, yeah, and I'm like, take that dollar right now. And I go, here, sign it, sign it. And he's like, okay, I'm like, what are you doing? And I'm like, crush it up into a ball and I go hold it between your hands. Don't move, don't move, don't move. And I'd say, right now, name any fruit in the place.

And he goes, I don't know, man. He's like, who are you? And I like, name a fruit goes, grapefruit. I go, you ready, open your hand. And we open his hand, it's just a blank piece of paper. And I say, open up, it says cut open the grapefruit. I go, go pick any grapefruit you want, opens it up, cut it open. Inside, it's his signed bill.

Wow. And I would just, exactly you just said, I would do this just to see people literally lose their minds because they weren't seeing it at a show. It was in real life. Yeah, that's the high. The high is different. And so I'd make up do stuff to do in that deli every week just to, like, test out new material. That's pretty incredible.

Crazy stuff. That's insane. And every time I'd walk in, he'd be like, no. No, no. He didn't want me to come in. There's a clip I had with Janus from the Bucks. If you haven't seen it, it's so funny. He calls me, he goes, this is black magic.

It's from Africa. And he, like, wanted to live. Really? Watch that clip. Search Janus and then O's the Mentalist. It's so funny, man. I loved Janus. Good dude.

Do you do this just for the reaction, or you really like to mess with people's heads? Now I'm so busy that, like, I don't really do this as often in civilian life. Because, like, if you're sitting next to man in an airplane, and you don't know who I am, I'm not volunteering that information. If they're like, oh, what do you do? I'm like, I'm an actuary for an insurance company. Like, anything that shuts down the conversation is the worst thing you can ever say

to somebody if you're flying from LAX to New York is like, what do you do for a living? I'm a mental. What's that? Oh, I read mine. It's like, oh, yeah. All right. Can you show me? And then it's going to be five hours of like, wait a second.

What do you got next coming up on the business front? I know you sent me something. I don't know if you're allowed to talk about it or anything. I can talk about that. I got a big series with, it's pretty awesome. Yeah. And then my book's coming out. Like the big plug is I've got a book coming out October 28th.

It's called Read Your Mind. And I'm not going to teach you to be a mentalist. There are lots of books and videos. Google how to learn mentalism you'll learn because I don't think this will change your life. I want to give you habits for success that I've used to get to the top of what I do for a living. And I assure you that if I wasn't doing this, I'm guaranteeing it. The same skills that I use at mentalism will help you in business. We'll help you in your relationships.

We'll help you no matter what you do because reading people more effective. effectively is the ultimate cheat code of life and also reading your own mind knowing what's holding you back so many people don't actually know what their goals are what they're thinking how to get inside their head and figure out what is it that's holding me back from hitting the next level what's the title of the book read your mind i'm getting a copy for sure i haven't read a book in a while but i might have to read this now or get the audio book man i've been recording it i've got radio voice i get you fired up it's not like we can go google this after like how to do it It's just, there's no.

Good luck, man. People try to deconstruct it. How did you get Rogan's pin? They're like, you know? How many other mentalists can do like the same stuff you do? So that's a good question. I would describe it as, that's like, okay, think of it this way. There's a handful, but do what I do and there's not a humble brag, that's, I don't

know if I can answer that question. Try to answer for yourself by looking online. Do what I do is kind of like singer-songwriter. So how many good bands are there? How many good singers are there? but how many of them write their own songs, and that's what makes it special. So, like, this, where you just had,

that doesn't work for anyone else. That is, that is Nellke Boys. What if he had, at the last moment, going to Leo Messi instead, right? You could have gone with Leo Messi. You didn't know what could have happened. You would have changed. Everything would have changed.

Yeah. So it's creating custom content that's unique, that's for people. Adjusting on the go. Yeah, it's all jazz. Like, when I'm in the room with these football players, they aren't in on it. They actively want to screw me over.

Of course. I did a bit where like this thing exploded into fire, and they like, you'll see it. It's with it. It's been leaked. So I can let you know it was Notre Dame, but there's like, they went nuts and just the guys like, I wanted you to screw this up. Like the fact, I changed my mind at the last second. He goes, right before, right at the last second before I said it, I said something different. There's no way you could have known what I would say.

I didn't even know. I didn't write it. I didn't whisper. I didn't nothing. I literally changed my mind at the last second. And you knew it. And it like exploded in fire. It was pretty sick.

But, uh, but yeah. I burn like my finger off during that like the whole time I'm doing like oh definitely just burn my finger yeah it's worth it man suffer for the art yeah

let's do one more so we can end this no that was that was a fucking dude I can't throw knelt on the fucking I can't top that I know the hell do you want bro I don't know this is so good what would you charge real quick though for we should plan something let's do something in the future

like something cool maybe we'll think I think we do you do a prank thing where I walk into a place yeah we should do it bloggy style and every time before like they're about to do something. I tell them what it was. What the what do you mean? I'm like, okay, great. So the next question is like your mother's main name. It's that. And this, like to just, they're like, how do you? Yeah, we'll think of

something cool. I did one bit. So I had a show on NBC that went way back at one in Emmy, which was sick. But in this show, I walked up to people at ATMs when they were coming to do their ATM pingo, just like that. It was at a chase in the village. And we had a camera. And I walked up to them right before they did their ATM pinco. And I said, oh, I'm sorry, we're filming a thing. We didn't do a secret camera where we're discussing secrets, like whether people have strong pin codes, because they're saying there's a lot of hackers now who do

this. And they go, do you feel that you have a strong pin code? And they go, yeah. And then I go, okay, great, swipe your card. And then as soon as they did, I looked at them and I typed in their pincode for them. And it was, oh, we just filmed the reactions of person after person. And we had nuts. You had different reactions of people that were confused. There were people that

just acted like nothing happened because they didn't understand like they thought they were dreaming or high. And then we had people that were just, I can't explain it, but absolute fear. Like, one guy ran away, ran away, said, don't put so care care. We eventually got him to sign a release, but scared out of his mind. It's awesome.

Just great reactions. That's actually funny. It's following people to those ATMs. Yeah, that's not going to go bad. Reading somebody's been combined. Because that's a real gut check. That's like, that's a little invasive. But I gave you nothing that would have ever given you that, and that's not any family member's birthday. It's the most random reason I use it. So,

you just took a little bit of getting to it, but like, sometimes I can do with people where I can get them really quick. It's kind of like a fast hypnotic induction. where like I come up to them and I do it and I just know their code what's going to be quick and they're like you know 2684 just did like a diamond pattern like so easy

that's crazy bro I'm definitely going to read the book all right read your mind October 24th October 28th October 28th everywhere you have books airports everywhere covered quote by my boy David Goggins Is it available for any other people

It's available presale right now We'll put the link in the description Appreciate it read your mind There's going to be an audio book if you're more of a listener No excuses I'm going to do audiobook. Audio book's the way to go. I talk fast, though.

If you're running, it'll keep you moving fast. 100%. And we've got to get it running maybe this week. Dude, I'm in Friday. I'll run you as long as you can go. I know, I bet you can, yeah. I think we've got to get Kyle at least 20 miles. 20 this week?

Come on. We could do 20 Friday, maybe. For you, for your 100-miler, the key is going to be for you. I've done a marathon. Nutrition. Yeah. What was your marathon time? Four and a half.

Okay. But I did it solo. Got it. So I didn't have no pacer, yeah. I feel like I could crack four. If I was like with someone. Unfortunately, my, well, just too much family work. Other things, I have five kids.

Like, my marathoning, my fastest times were like 10 years ago, but I still had it pretty good one at my start. I think I could still. What was your fastest marathon? My fast marathon is a 23. Two hours minutes? Yeah, 223. Holy fuck.

That's like our half marathon time. My fastest 50 mile time was 6.30 per mile for 50 miles. How many times have you ran 50 miles? Lots. I run, you should do this. A great tradition. Every year my birthday, I run my age in miles. You should do it every year.

Every year on my birthday, I run my age in miles. I turn 43 this year. I'll keep doing this as long as I can. At least I'm 50. We should do the 100 miles in New York? I've been Boston. What place did you finish? My fastest Boston marathon fact check this.

I want to say it was 28th place. Couldn't beat the Kenyans. Couldn't beat the Kenyans. Chasing the Kenyons. Well, potential 20 miles. Most important fact on that list. I was the fastest Jew. Fastest Jew.

That's all that counts. Oh, there you go. Yeah, that's true. 28th place is insane. in the Boston Marital. 28th or 30th. Someone's going to be on this. Were you close to the way?

Maybe I was 35th. I don't remember, man. I was, maybe I was 30 fifth overall. I think I'd be by a few women. Are you running another one soon or no? I usually run New York every year. Went that.

New York is in November every year. It's my 11th. And I'm signed up in everything. But I just, I got an offer. I couldn't refuse. I had a client who just, I said no. They're like, we'll throw more money. We'll throw more money.

Private chat. I'm like, all right, I'll take it. So I'm doing a show in Montana. The way, if I ever ran the boss of marriage, though, what I would do, I would sprint as fast as I can for a while, so I'd be in the lead so I get the camera coverage. Jeff, I know somebody's done that. Yeah. Yeah. I'd probably last like half a month.

I mean, I would be fucked. I wouldn't be like, yeah. You should do that. Great promotion. No, I can't. I'm not running. No. There is. Just not happening. Just not happening. Just not happening. I can't even, like, I can't even, like, picture that. That's a great marketing play. You should just sponsor an athlete who just runs the first mile as fast as possible. He wouldn't even do a 530 mile. I don't even think you'd make it 10 yards. I wouldn't make it for you. No. No way.

There's a zap in the end line Maybe you'll run Yeah, there's a zapping rod With a zap at the end of it I'd probably make it to the end Probably, yeah All right, we'll do that Get the buck, October 28th, read your mind

Oh, thank you. You're the man, thank you, Thank you, bro. That was unbelievable. That was great stuff. Let's go. Always a pleasure, brother. Thank you.