FULL SEND PODCAST - Paddy Pimblett | Ep. 154

Episode Date: April 7, 2025

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Starting point is 00:00:00 All right, boys, we got a fucking sick pod today. UFC fight week. We got Patty the baddie on the pod. It's been a long time in the making. We've been going back and forth for, like, I looked today like two or three years. So you come a long way, so I'm pumped to have you on, bro. Yeah, you're not wrong. There's a long time in the making, looking forward to this.
Starting point is 00:00:18 But, yeah, in them last three years, being some big developments in my career and my life. So it's probably better that we've waited a little bit longer. We've got more to talk about. How do you like Miami? I love it. What's your first impressions? it's great we've only been here
Starting point is 00:00:31 for less than 48 hours and it's a great city it's probably probably my favorite city at this in San Diego I think of me two favorite cities ever since COVID too Miami completely changed
Starting point is 00:00:43 so every time I come to fights here they're like so fucking electric so I think you're gonna love fighting in the Miami atmosphere I make it electric anyway you know that so when I saw you say on the interview you didn't interview recently you were saying like
Starting point is 00:00:56 there's a ton of fans in Miami area you've been getting like recognized like yeah being in um quite a few pitches already being getting some very nice word spoken to me so i can't wait to walk out i was saying yes they on an interview the you know chanlap trains in miami and like if it was anyone else fighting them they'd probably be like an away fighter and get booed but is that weird for you like coming from overseas and coming to america and being like the hometown crowd is for you no I think anywhere I go when my music comes on
Starting point is 00:01:28 Everyone just wants to be a part of the party The Paddy Party, so It's just going to be like any other night Alright guys, it's UFC Fight Week We got Paddy Pimbled on the pod So pumped for this one Before we get into it If you guys have not tried out the prize picks app
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Starting point is 00:02:33 or did the UFC kind of just come to you with Chandler? I don't care, did he say, you know what I mean? Whoever I get offered, I say, yeah, I'm never turning a fight down. It's just not in me. I'm a fighter. So when Chandler, he first got mentioned in December with a fight Michael Chandler next.
Starting point is 00:02:48 And I was like, yeah, of course I will. It's a lovely jump up the rankings for me and prepared to fight anyone. And it took a while. little while for it to get finalised really I think he was recovering from Sutton and he was trying to push it back to June to my daughter's birthday, like five
Starting point is 00:03:02 days after the fight, so I want to be able to actually enjoy their birthday and enjoy a couple of little month or two off with them and go on holiday and stuff, so I just said I'm fighting April 12th whether it's Michael Chandler or not and he stepped up to the plate. That's awesome. Well, he's a big star for sure,
Starting point is 00:03:18 no doubt. What do you make of his actual skill set, like as a fighter? He's well rounded, like he's got the main thing that you've got to watch out for as power in his hands he comes forward and he throws big big left looks big overhand rights
Starting point is 00:03:32 as soon as you get punched in the face he just wants to have a brawl and I'll be using that against him I was saying this yesterday and I just I don't see where he can beat me the only way he's going to beat me is if he throws a Hail Mary punch and it knocks me out but I don't get
Starting point is 00:03:48 knocked out lad so I can see me just dismantling him and beating him everywhere and I can see me me beating him more convincingly than Porreier, Gagie and Charles did. Because Charles went to decision, right? Five rounds? So did Gagee.
Starting point is 00:04:02 Charles went five rounds. Gagey went to decision with him. Porreya submitted him in the third. And in the first fight with Charles, he dropped them in the first and nearly finished him, but then Charles T-k-oed him in the second round. But as I say, they've all made hard work of him. They've all made a
Starting point is 00:04:18 tough fight. Most of them have been fight at a night. No fight of the night coming this time. I'm getting performance. the night after the fast finish. So after this fight, because Chandler's a fucking huge star. So where do you think, if you beat Chandler, where does this elevate you in like the lightweight division? I feel like after this win for you, this is going to completely shake up lightweight.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Yeah. Like crazy. It is. It's going to shake up lightweight in a big way. It's a, I still get called a prospect. No what I mean? So once I beat Michael, that's going to change. I'm not going to be a prospect anymore.
Starting point is 00:04:52 I'm going to be a contender. I'll be coming and taking rank seven. I'll be in the top seven fighters in the world behind Islam Machachev, and I'll be asking for the top four fighter after that. Amon, Justin, Dustin or Charles, want to fight one of them, just want to beat one of them.
Starting point is 00:05:09 I'll be number one contender. What about Ilya? Because he's moving up to 155, right? Yeah, always. And you guys have a long history. That press conference two years ago was one of the most fucking entertaining press conferences of all time.
Starting point is 00:05:24 chirps, like, calling him like a fucking chorizo, sausage and shit. That's funny. He should have changed his name to. It was funny. He's made his, he's changed his nickname to his shit nickname, hasn't he? Like, legend or something. So they changed it to El Chirito, but they've been well for you. What do you make of his, like, evolvement?
Starting point is 00:05:40 Because that was, that was a long time ago. And now, he's kind of fucking leveled up like... Yeah, he has. But we always knew he was a good fighter, no what I mean? Like, that's sort of what pisses me off about him. Even though I hate him and I think he's a belland. Like, I would I wouldn't lie and say he's a shit fighter, because he's not.
Starting point is 00:05:57 But that's what he says about me. And it made me laugh and he said, what did he say? He called me fat. I'd say, lad, you can't make your weight division anymore that you are champion of, and you're trying to call me fat. He's a midget, lad. He's tiny. He's smaller than Michael Chandler.
Starting point is 00:06:13 He'll see what I do to Michael Chandler next Saturday night when I dismantle him. And it'll be a very similar game plan to meet earlier. He's small. He walks forward, swinging shots. I'll kick him up and down the octagon. and I'll either knock him out or submit him. Like that fight's there down the line. No, I know, I mean.
Starting point is 00:06:29 100% that fight's got to happen. That's a fight that you can have as a pay-per-view main event with no title on the line. That gives me like chills just thinking about that. The press conferences and shit, that'd be crazy. Yeah, the press.
Starting point is 00:06:39 You'd have to do a world tour for that like they did with Aldo McGregor. That would be fucking hilarious. Yeah, Ilya, you know. It's, it's there any time. No what I mean? Any time, lad. Because it seems like they don't know what to do
Starting point is 00:06:51 because Ilya moved up. I don't know if Islam wants to fight him or not so like he's looking for an opponent yeah yeah it seems like this fight is really going to decide a lot of stuff in that whole division yeah it is as I've said it a few times like
Starting point is 00:07:06 the old guard of the lightweight division they're all on the way out we've got Chandler who's 38 you've got Dustin Justin and Charles who were all 35 and older I think even Danach might be 35 Mikearno's 38 Darius's 38
Starting point is 00:07:21 in the next two or three years the top 10's going to look completely different. The only person in the top 10 I can think of who's under 35s, I'm in Surukia. He's just a little posh boy who's had everything under to him on a silver platter by his dad. Do you think he actually got injured or no?
Starting point is 00:07:36 What do you think happened? No, he's a little bitch ass. That's what you are, I'm a little pussy boy. I was confused too because, yeah, we had him on the pod that week too, and then I don't know, he was doing videos too with the Nina, with Nina drama. He was like wrestling and shit. And then... And then he was doing them videos where he flips forward
Starting point is 00:07:52 on his neck. And then he's saying that he's going a bad back Dana said didn't he it was Dana shot him down in that interview he was like
Starting point is 00:07:59 whoa that's heavy that you don't want the boss saying that about you but um because he got
Starting point is 00:08:03 asked in near arm and still number one and he was like no he's going to have to go back to the drawing board
Starting point is 00:08:08 yeah he basically said that like doctors come out and heather the best masse
Starting point is 00:08:12 mousse and the P.I come out and they never said to him you can't fight he decided
Starting point is 00:08:17 he's not going to fight so basically almond you shit your pants know
Starting point is 00:08:23 what I mean that's did you farted and followed through and had shit coming down your leg so that's basically what happened. Yeah, as a fan that pull out fucking sucked for sure. Like I was pissed when I saw that. Do you think Islam
Starting point is 00:08:36 moves up? That's what I was about to say I read something just yesterday saying he's going to wait until the Balal Jack Delamanderina fight. And see how that plays. Yeah, and if JDM wins he's going to go up and fight for that belt. But I don't think the UFC would strip Islam
Starting point is 00:08:54 or make him vacate the belt like he did with Ilya wouldn't surprise me if his lamb does move up after this because he deserves it, beating Volch beating Porreye and then Volk again and I know the Moikano one was very You went pretty hard on Moikano, right?
Starting point is 00:09:10 I was just being honest, no what I mean? Did you say he should have just went to sleep? Yeah, he's never going to get that opportunity again. He's never going to fight for the lightweight title again. He shouldn't have fought at that time. He didn't deserve it, but he got the title shot. if I got a title shot like that on 24 hours notice I am even if I got a title shot on eight weeks notice
Starting point is 00:09:29 I am not going I'm not tapping in a choke in an arm bar or a knee bar or a comora where your arm's going to snap or you're going to have a career-threatening injury yeah but when you go asleep you just wake back up so go asleep go out on your shield don't be a little bitch arse and tap in like three seconds like I just I didn't get it and then he clapped back and he said this and he said that but want to be channeler my carno's in the review you saw ilia like recently right and you guys dabbed each other up yeah it was quite funny because in the back all the ufc security was like
Starting point is 00:10:05 yeah look around like that and then he's come out and started walking towards where i was and there as i say all the ufc security is shitting themselves and then he's just looked up at me and went so i've just started laughing to myself and went and done it back so obviously then when he was out on stage I thought can't argue with him here he's just saluted me in the back and being all right and obviously my little mate was fighting Nathan Fletcher so I didn't want to take anything away from him so as I walked past him
Starting point is 00:10:35 I just like thought I'm gonna do me here and just felt like that it was quite funny to be fair if he was playing 3D chess he were the one because if it was rock paper scissors lad he went like that but yeah he said something in an interview after like we were in our fighting roles
Starting point is 00:10:49 or something like that but it would have just caused absolute havoc on the stage would have been murder and I'm not one of them I'm not like him I wouldn't punch someone when they don't expect it or try to punch someone
Starting point is 00:11:02 when they don't expect it like he did to me I'm not like that I wouldn't steal it on someone I'd let him know and then I'd punch him in the face Would you say this is the biggest fight of your career Oh yeah definitely the biggest fight of my career
Starting point is 00:11:13 Because you've been a star to for so long but I feel like it's It's been like Have you been purposely taking your time for like a big, big fight like this. Do you know what I mean? It's being a slow progression. But my whole career has,
Starting point is 00:11:26 apart from when I was younger, because I had my first amateur fight when I was 16 and then I turned professional when I was 17 because I had no amateur fights left to do. I'd beat everyone. At first I was going pretty fast. Like, I won a world title when I was 21. But then I lost twice,
Starting point is 00:11:43 and then, like, I moved up in weight and my body. I was still too small for the weight class. And I had to grow into me. my build and since then we've took it pretty slow we've just took it step by step like I got off of two UFC
Starting point is 00:12:00 contacts before I actually signed I got off of the contact when I was 21 and I got off of the contract when I was 23 and I didn't actually sign until I was 26 really? What was the reason for that? I knew I weren't ready to be honest we spoke about to
Starting point is 00:12:15 my coaches and I wasn't I was still a child still a child fighting men and I know for the fact that were they coming to the UFC at that time I probably would have got ragged all by men where I was a very small fighter I wasn't big at all and I had a lot of holes in my game
Starting point is 00:12:32 a lot of things that I needed to work on and over time we've worked on it and now I feel like a complete fighter I don't feel like I'm outmatched by anyone in the division anywhere the fight goes. Was that tough to turn down at the time because I'm sure the money in the UFC must have been
Starting point is 00:12:48 like better than whatever you were fighting for in another league, right? That's like a pretty calculated decision. No, it wasn't better? When I got off of the first contract, I got off of the new Cage Warriors deal and that deal was worth more than the base contract
Starting point is 00:13:02 for the UFC. And I done a lot with that money, you know what I mean? I saved that money up over years to get a house deposit myself, pay me mum's mortgage off, done a few things like that. And that money done a lot for me over them years. So I'm very grateful to Cage Warriors.
Starting point is 00:13:18 They set me up. for the start of my adult life, really, because that was when I was 21 when I first started getting that wage. When I first signed for the UFC, I took a pay cut. Because as you know, the UFC started deals 10 and 10. I signed for a pay cut. The first two fights, the 10 and 10 and 12 and 12. And then obviously after the only second fight,
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Starting point is 00:15:06 That's a fucking dope sponsor. Yeah, it's a heavy sponsor, lad. Great sponsor. I got that, and I've been sponsored by a nutrition company called Applied Nutrition for two years now, three years. They're my two main sponsors. They were... I get my money and outside of fighting.
Starting point is 00:15:21 What happened with the bar stool deal? It used to be with them, right? Yeah, yeah, used to do a bar stool.
Starting point is 00:15:25 That was, that deal was unbelievable. I mean, but it was when Dave Dave bought Barstool back for one dollar because the pair and company were added at first,
Starting point is 00:15:35 like, had it before Dave bought it back. They had it in debt, I think. You know what I mean? Where they just wanted to do the sports book. So when Dave bought it back,
Starting point is 00:15:42 he cut a lot of jobs and cut a lot of thing to make sure it was making profit again. Right. And he just said, like, I'll always be here for you or anything you need.
Starting point is 00:15:51 Just let me know. But the sponsorship was going to end. One thing you're always famous for, too, is your weight cuts and, like, how you used to fluctuate and weight like crazy. Are you still gaining weight like that in between fights like you used to? We'll see when I go to America next. It's America what does it to me, lad. When I go to America, lad, the fucking food here,
Starting point is 00:16:12 I put ridiculous amounts of weight on. Never forget being in San Diego. I'm wearing myself one Monday morning. And I was like 96 kilo, 2.10, 2.15. 2.10. Holy shit. I was like 96 kilo. But like that's a lot of water and like keeping all of it because I weighed myself again on the Friday after a week of training. And I was like 90 kilo.
Starting point is 00:16:34 So you probably cut like 20, 25 for a fight too, right? Or whatever it is. And then that's another like 30.40. Normally walk around about 185 to 195 walk around about that. Right now I'm only like 172. this wakewood's going to be pretty easy to be honest compared to other ones have done in the past what like fucks you in America
Starting point is 00:16:54 like after like what cheat meals everything everything what's your three favorite restaurants here in and out loving in and out burger four by four yeah unbelievable absolutely unbelievable Jeff
Starting point is 00:17:09 I like everything wings I love Italian food I love Thai food Italians it's the best pasta we've walked past a few Mexican restaurants here what I think look fantastic
Starting point is 00:17:20 Yeah Even like the diners And things like that And then obviously You've got like Dunkin' Donuts And Ooh
Starting point is 00:17:27 You're a big sweets Yeah What like donuts cookies Yeah cookies Like forever had The cookie dough pie
Starting point is 00:17:34 Ooh I have I've tried that Yeah Yeah Well I had one of them With some ice cream Lad Them cookie dough pies
Starting point is 00:17:41 Are the best Desert on the planet That unbelieve I'm just sitting here Now salivating Over it Thinking wow When I have a
Starting point is 00:17:48 cookie dough pie when I get home there's a shot by ours that does them that big tick ones I'll be eating them celebrating so this going into this fight like what wait
Starting point is 00:17:58 were you kind of like chilling at for the last few months like were you up to 210 that high the highest that I got before this fight was like 88 kilo which is I think that's like
Starting point is 00:18:08 193 something like that I'm the last fight when I fought Bobby Green the night before the way and I was 1 69.5 so I've done 30 and a half pound overnight in the bath. How much of a toll does that take on you?
Starting point is 00:18:21 It's one of them. You've got to have the mental fortitude for it. It's more mental and physical. A lot of people are bitches when it comes to the bath and want to get out and like, oh, I can't do this. I'd be a bitch. That sounds fucked.
Starting point is 00:18:36 As I say, you've got to be mentally strong to do it. But as I say, this is going to be, this one's going to be pretty easy for me. As I said, if I done 30 and a half pound last time and I was heavier at this stage last time, a week out, I wasn't 172 It was more like 174, 175
Starting point is 00:18:50 So this time I'm going to have less weight to cut Probably feels nice Yeah, that's the other thing As long as I've got less than 30 and a half pound I'm very happy And I know I'm going to have less than 30 and a half pound Did you have to change like stuff
Starting point is 00:19:03 Based on prior weight cuts Like was there ever a weight cut that was like kale I got a no more fucking cookie cream pie Yeah, I've had a few Um It was more when I was making featherweight when I was fighting a featherweight two times
Starting point is 00:19:19 that I went five rounds as well when I fought Julian a Rosa I cut 8.3 kilo overnight I think it's about 18 pounds something like that 17 pound I cut that overnight and then when I thought
Starting point is 00:19:32 Nad Naramani had done 16 pounds overnight I felt like absolute dog shit in the fight against the Rosa after the third round I cast and was just surviving for two rounds and then again in the NAD fight I was pretty similar
Starting point is 00:19:45 it was just surviving towards the later end of the fight so doing less weight obviously helps and it'll help me even more because you've seen how jacked Michael Chandler is even though he's very small he's probably going to cut a lot of weight as well because he's so wide
Starting point is 00:20:02 was it your last fight you gave the post fight speed about mental health yeah no that was a few years ago yeah that was 2023 the night after my mate killed himself that was like a really big moment
Starting point is 00:20:18 and I saw that it kind of like affected like a lot of people there was like a big response on the internet is that still like a passion year's like men's mental health yeah they still get messages about it now I mean people
Starting point is 00:20:28 and when I bump into some people like oh you save my life or you save my mate's life or my son's life I'm just like I didn't save anyone's life that I just said what anyone in my position should say
Starting point is 00:20:38 feel like people who are in the public high anything like that he should speak about because people do sit up and take notice things like that
Starting point is 00:20:47 that's proper close to my heart now because Ricky took his own life and as I say it was 36 hours before I fought it was on
Starting point is 00:20:55 early hours on the Thursday morning what I found out and then I weighed in the next morning and then fought the next night it was a rough one
Starting point is 00:21:02 but it was just I never planned to do that it just he'd come to my head when I was about when I was doing me talk
Starting point is 00:21:09 my post-fight interview and I just thought I need to speak about this because the amount of people that you're able to kill themselves now it still happens now news of people killing themselves a lad who used to train with the San Diego
Starting point is 00:21:22 Hacher seen he killed himself a few months ago and you know it's heart breaking, it's tragic now with the Baddy Foundation I try and help charities as well help with men's mental health as a charity in live well in the UK called James's Place
Starting point is 00:21:37 and we donated money to that from my foundation so that he can employ an ex-operate person for two years and they can be a counselor. So it's just like a stigma, right, that like men are supposed to be tough and hard and like they can never feel away or like, is that kind of what it's about? Yeah, it's a proper old fashioned stigma. I don't know what I mean? That's like saying women should only stay in the kitchen. No what I mean? Like saying men shouldn't talk. It's a thing of the past. It's something that we shouldn't be even saying in 2025. Is that something that's ever like personally affected you like mental health? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:12 Yeah. Like, as I said before, I lost two fights out of three at one point in my career. And I went into the second fight injured. I shouldn't have fought. Went to the second fight with a broken hand. But I felt like the whole show was riding on me. It needed me. Otherwise, it wouldn't have, it wouldn't have worked. And I had about 18-mate fighting on it. So I didn't pull out. I should have. I still thought. I had a splint on my hand.
Starting point is 00:22:40 even like a week before the fight training I had a splint underneath my boxing wraps again I shouldn't have done it but after that fight it affected me bad because in the first round I had a deep re-eating choke on and if my hand weren't so weak it would have put them to sleep
Starting point is 00:22:57 but because my hand was so weak it never and it burnt my arms out and I lost a fight over five rounds so just every morning I'd wake up my now wife had given me a kiss and go to work and I'd just lie there crying just like what as this happened have I not won that belt
Starting point is 00:23:15 and I was like that for months and months and months because of that with my hand I didn't I couldn't fight because I had to have more surgery and I didn't fight for like 18 months I was meant to fight like 14 months later but some fat dick head weight in like now and par and overweight so I couldn't fight and then as I said then I ended up fighting for 18 months
Starting point is 00:23:35 and then my whole world nearly fell apart again because the weekend that was meant to fight was the weekend that all the COVID restrictions came in so we had to fight behind closed doors it was luckily enough like Cage Warriors was the first and only sporting events to happen that weekend the same weekend that UFC London got cancelled
Starting point is 00:23:54 Cage Warriors did the show behind closed doors so I was lucky that I even got to fight otherwise I would have hit a deeper depression that place where I mentioned before James's place without them I don't know if it still be here because I went and got counselling and went and spoke to someone in there
Starting point is 00:24:11 who helped me a lot. So what would be your biggest advice to someone that's like, you know, struggling with something? Just talk to somebody? Get it off your chest. You know what I mean? Like, it's funny because
Starting point is 00:24:21 he sat to you, my boxing coach Chris. I remember sitting with him and him saying something like that to me, oh, lad, you speak about it? It's not as bad for it. And I sat there and
Starting point is 00:24:30 I ended up crying, speaking to him. And like, I woke up the next day and I felt like a weight of being lifted off my shoulders. And as I said, I was going to counselling and stuff like that as well and I think I told the misses and I told someone else
Starting point is 00:24:41 but even at that time I had that stigma I was like I can't speak to the missus about this she'll think less of me can't speak to me mate about this they'll think I'm a mushroom especially maybe as a fighter too you're even more supposed to be like the epitome of like a hard ass person
Starting point is 00:24:57 and I'm not meant to feel like that but just shows that anybody can feel like that doesn't matter what war or life you're in or how hard or tough you are or how confident you're because I am when it comes to fighting I'm the most confident person in the world I don't think anyone will beat me
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Starting point is 00:26:42 that is my main motivation all the lads have said to me since I actually had the kids there's been like a switch in me I haven't noticed it personally because I'm just me but my family my friends my coaches my teammates have all said
Starting point is 00:26:57 that I'm a lot more focused I'm a lot more switched on I'm trying even harder than I've ever tried and it's because I've got a wife two children and I need to look after. I need to provide for, and I'm not letting no man beat me and stop me from providing for them.
Starting point is 00:27:12 I bet that keeps you, like, more dialed, right? Just having that. Like when you were coming up, did you ever go through like a little bit of a... Oh, yeah, when I was younger. That lad, when I was younger, when I was 21 and I won that cage warrior's world title, it went to me head of it.
Starting point is 00:27:25 I was going out partying all the time, going out Saturday, Sunday, out till 4.35 in the morning. Then I'd have three hours sleep and get up and go to gym. and I just wasn't focused I wasn't all in like you need to be in this game and that's why I'm so glad
Starting point is 00:27:41 that I didn't go to UFC when I first got offered because I had to have that realisation years ago I had to have that when I was 21-22 thinking I was the boy thinking I was the best in the world already thinking I didn't need to work on nothing
Starting point is 00:27:53 like back then I wasn't in the gym consistently 365 days a year I was going in for fight camps and it was focused on weight cuts I wasn't really focused on technique you can get them better where now I'm in the gym every single day even after a fight even when you see me fat
Starting point is 00:28:10 I'm in the gym every day training I don't miss a session I'm in there whether I'm fat whether I'm injured if I'm watching I'm in the gym training every day getting better every day I don't have days off anymore like that's why my physique's the way it is now because it's fucking like
Starting point is 00:28:27 just as a fan like I can only imagine but it's just the toughest sport to like be at the top compared to any other sport I feel like it's the UFC is just the most competitive thing to be champion you got to just be like fully committed to your craft right
Starting point is 00:28:43 yeah that's so much respect for like you guys I didn't let it get to me head too much in the UFC but even going into the Jared Gordon fight what a lot of people think I lost was a close fight I thought it was a foregone conclusion I was gonna win I was like I was already thinking about the next opponent I had to get my head screwed on a bit more
Starting point is 00:29:00 that was a proper blessing in the scars I could have lost on that night very easily a lot of journalists a lot of MMA fighters a lot of people think it was a robbery I personally watched it back and I think it was a close fight
Starting point is 00:29:12 I still think I won but obviously I have a little bit of bias I have a little bit of bias towards myself and it was very close and I was half lucky to get the win that night but that fight changed me like
Starting point is 00:29:24 oh really yeah it really did I'll never overlook an opponent ever again I overlooked Jared I thought this is a foregone conclusion I'm going to win here. He fought one of my former teammates
Starting point is 00:29:35 and he just about beat him over three rounds and I used to school that teammate every sparring session. So I thought, yeah, it's easy this. But styles make fights. His style on the night was a good, very good style to beat me. I did get injured in the first round. I snapped my ankle in the first round
Starting point is 00:29:53 so I didn't have much mobility for like 14 minutes. That's why I couldn't get out the way of his left hook. I kept stepping back and just get a clock at the left hook because I couldn't move properly but at the same time I can't take nothing away from him Jared Gordon's still my artist fight to date 100%
Starting point is 00:30:09 like without that fight I don't think that'd be where I am now if I were the steamroll Jared and then fought someone in the top 15 you never know my career might be different I might have got beaten by it Yeah exactly everything happens for the reason I see Sugar Sean he posted recently He's kind of talking about that too
Starting point is 00:30:26 He's made a lot of lifestyle changes I think he said he hasn't like jerked off Or like that was a weird He quit, I don't know if we needed to know that, sugar, but he quit smoking weed, so I guess he kind of had a realization like that too, which is interesting, but what do you think about that fight? They just announced that Sugar Marab, too. I think it's a mad one, to be honest, because he hasn't fought since he got beat by Marab,
Starting point is 00:30:47 as he? But Sean's a star. He's one of the biggest stars in the sport. Probably got, like, one of the most followers out of everyone, and he's pay-per-view. You know what I mean? People want to see him fight. You think he has a chance to beat Marab? Yeah, especially if he comes in with some adjustments.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah, because he didn't look like himself totally in the last fight, but that could have just been Marab being so good. Because Maraab, what did you think of his performance against the Umar? Rav's quality, lads. It's fucking crazy. Yeah, his cardio is ridiculous. I don't know, it really is. Like, he's probably got the best cardio on the UFC at the minute.
Starting point is 00:31:21 Like, I've read something that he does five rounds in the back before he comes out on fights. I bet. The guy's a nut, yeah. Wouldn't surprise me. He made him. Mark looks silly in the later rounds. He schooled him in round three, four, and five. He really did make him look silly.
Starting point is 00:31:36 So Marab's going to be a tough one to be for anyone. Never mind, Sean O'Malley or whoever, Marab's going to be a tough champion to take the belt off. If anyone could do it, Sean O'Malley can. He knocked Algevin Stirling out, and no one thought he was going to do that. Yeah, let's see what happens. Think it'll be a good fight.
Starting point is 00:31:52 I still want to see Sean O'Malley versus Peter Jan too. That would be good. That was a scrap, the first fight, so I'd love to see. Yeah, Sugar wins. maybe that'll happen or Umar. Yeah. If PT Am wins in other fights, he's definitely number one contender.
Starting point is 00:32:03 Yeah. Because he's back number three or something like that, number four. Yeah. A lot of people are saying that the UFC is just lacking stars as champions right now. Would you agree with that?
Starting point is 00:32:14 Like Pereira just lost. People don't think Ballal's a huge star at Welterweight. Yeah, he's not. No disrespect, Palal, but you're not. Do you think they're having a bit of a bit of trouble with that right now? It's one of them, though.
Starting point is 00:32:25 Like, the best fighters in the world have to build. doesn't need to be a star it's just the best fighter in the world has that belt I think Sean Brady's a brilliant fighter if JDM doesn't win he's next in line with it what's saying that there's still Shavkat Shavkat also in line for the title
Starting point is 00:32:41 but he keeps getting injured or Bala got injured the first time so Welterweight's gonna get a shake up I think like the belt could change hands multiple times at Welterweight If Islam goes up there too Yeah if Islam goes up you never know he could win the belt
Starting point is 00:32:54 If he's bit like if he can If he can wrestle for some of them people at well to wait like he's taking that belt years was par for power number one in the world at the minute
Starting point is 00:33:03 like I've got the toughest division to try to take the belt from Lightweight's always been the most down for Yeah apart from light heavy weight years ago when I was growing up
Starting point is 00:33:11 when you had like Rampage showgun Rashard Oh that was what Light Heavyweight Forrest Griffin yeah Those were the days That's when I was really
Starting point is 00:33:18 started watching UFC That's when I first started watching UFC Yeah All of them Yeah I know what you mean With Perea losing the belt To UFC probably
Starting point is 00:33:27 didn't want that to happen because he is a big star perera that was the first fight I've watched them live as well and they got beat by Ankalive yeah you know it's one of them the best in the world they're gonna have the belt that's just the way it is especially with the UFC it's not like boxing where you'd have like five different belts
Starting point is 00:33:40 you'd have one belt in each weight class and they are the best in the world whoever has that belt but I don't think you need to have a belt to be a star no I mean definitely not yeah definitely not for me I'm only ranked 12 but I've got like three and a half million followers
Starting point is 00:33:56 but I've got more followers followers the most champs have and then even earlier now he's a star but he hasn't got a belt star too no what I mean Kamsat everybody loves Kamsat Kamsat hasn't got a belt stuff like that
Starting point is 00:34:09 I don't think there's a lot of stars in the making that could be champs yeah definitely I think it's going to get shaken up like come a year from now it's going to look obviously totally different and other switches and stuff definitely do you think the Aspinall Jones fights happens
Starting point is 00:34:21 got to happen I was sitting next to Tom the other week at the UFC in London and talking to him about it and like it's gotta happen there's no way that can't happen how do you think that plays out if they fight I'll be honest Tom's a friend I love Tom he's one of the coolest dudes in the whole of MMA
Starting point is 00:34:37 even though Jones is getting out I just can't pick against John Jones I've been watching John Jones as I say since 2010 I can remember watching when he got DQed against Matt Hamill live how has he been in the game so long like he's been there since those guys we just mentioned like he's been
Starting point is 00:34:53 beat all them guys he was there when GSP was in it's far it's mad he's got proper longevity and the one thing i do think john jones has got the best in the world and the best ever is his fight IQ he game plans to beat people and he he doesn't fight the same way every fight he has a perfect game plan to beat that person and as much as a loved song and i want some to win i couldn't pick against john jones it's just something i couldn't do i know you say you don't overlook an opponent but do you ever think about like you're like two year plan or three year plan whatever it is like how do you see your career playing out yeah obviously I don't look past the opponent but you probably visualize and think about how you want I want to beat Michael Chandler I'm going to finish Michael Chandler in two
Starting point is 00:35:36 two rounds yeah all right prize picks right that and then I'm on a fight someone like Charles Olivera in Abu Dhabi Charles or Justin I think Dustin will be retired by then so fight over even Armin but I think he'll have a fight by then
Starting point is 00:35:53 and then once I beat them fight for the title 2026. That's my roadmap. That's the part I'm going to follow. That'd be fucking crazy. I think the I think the Ilya fight's got to happen. Yeah, it's got it happen now. I just want to come to the press conference and sit... Everyone was
Starting point is 00:36:09 saying to me, would you like Ilya to become champ? Because then I'll probably get a title shot straight away. I know. I don't want him to be champ. I don't want to be champ at all. Fuck that midger. No what I mean? I'd rather win the belt. And then he can fight for the title when I've got it. And I'll have me first offense, smashing his little seat in.
Starting point is 00:36:27 you ever do a fight like outside the UFC one day when your contract's up like do ever think about those super fights like a boxing fight or anything like that i'm in this game to be a world champion no what i mean but the prize fighters at the end of the day obviously it's not going to be like a mayweather mcgregor but if a something like that happened and someone was offering me millions of pounds hundreds of millions to box someone i'm doing it ilia patty would be like on that level i think not mcgregor mayweather but yeah that would be fucking big. That's two stars. Yeah, that I'd do pay-per-view
Starting point is 00:36:59 bars 100%. It'd do more than most title fights. That's why I'm saying you don't even need the title on the line for that fight. That's just a pay-per-view headliner right there. How's your relationship to evolve with the UFC over the years? I've always had a good relationship with the UFC. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:37:15 Over time, like I can remember obviously when I turned the UFC down the second time, I lost my fight after it. The amount of hate I was getting on that. Like, he's never going to get the UFC now, they're never going to want him, this and that. And then as I said, I had to sit out for 18 months because I was injured. That's all I heard.
Starting point is 00:37:33 Oh, he should have took the UFC when he had the chance, this and that. And then I had two fights in a year and caught off of the contract. And a lot of people thought that the UFC wouldn't like me or wouldn't offer me other contract because I'd turn them down at first. And it was the opposite. You know what I mean? As soon as I had that first fight, as soon as I absolutely. knocked Luigi Venzumini out
Starting point is 00:37:57 and got the mic and said scoutsers don't get knocked out the UFC have loved me and you're gone out of you know what I mean I don't look like a fighter I look like fucking Hansen Mba no I mean so as I say
Starting point is 00:38:13 I've got a great relationship with the UFC I always have done since the first sign and I can't see it sour on any time soon I think we're always going to have a good relationship the way my career has progressed it's being perfect it's been perfect time now getting a nice jump with the rankings I can't thank them enough because I'm number 12
Starting point is 00:38:29 fighting number seven I've got to come in and this is your time yeah this is my time I've got to come in and show everyone the old guard is fading out and the new guard's coming through and I am one of the new guard yeah I like Chandler he's a great guy I just think I just think he doesn't he gets a little lost and I think he's going to try to brawl
Starting point is 00:38:49 and I think you're just going to definitely I think you're going to pick him apart he comes out and tries to entertain yeah like obviously I love entertaining Which is great. It's great. But first and foremost, the fights, we want to win the fight. It sounds bad to say, but I'd obviously rather have a boring fight and win it. He kind of does just say it too.
Starting point is 00:39:06 He's like, we're going to go out and put on a show. Like, he never actually says, like, you know, I'm going to beat him. That's what I mean. He's always like, we're going to put on a great show. I've done a split screen interview yesterday. And he basically said that. Yeah. It's got to be fireworks going on this and that.
Starting point is 00:39:18 Yeah. And then when I got asked, there's like, he's getting finished in two. Yeah. I mean, I just said, yeah, he's getting beat. Yeah. And he just said, we're going to have a great fight, in that. And he keeps saying, like, I'm going to test that chair and one of this and that. But he's not saying, like, yeah, I'm going to win, I'm going to win.
Starting point is 00:39:31 He comes off very confidence and stuff like that. But at the same time, I don't think he is. I think he has in the back of his mind that he's going to lose. Yeah. I seen a tweet a couple of weeks ago. Someone tweeted him saying, I'm going to bet the house on you or should I bet the house on you. And he tweeted back, no. Really?
Starting point is 00:39:45 What? Yeah, I wouldn't bet the house on channel. Yeah. If someone asked me that, though, it would be like, yeah, bet the house on me because I'm going to win. Yeah. Chandler needs to get into motivational speaking. Have you seen his Instagram? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:39:57 A lad he needs to get into motivational speaking him, lot. He'd be a great motivational speaker on stage just talking. I reckon that's what he's going to go into. He's actually a fucking great dude. Yeah, when I, like, gambled with him at Vegas. I've met him a few times. He's a very nice guy. Like, after it'd be Tony, you come over to him,
Starting point is 00:40:11 and started talking to me and stuff. Oh, yeah, you guys had that, you guys had the interaction. Yeah, yeah. He's like, I think he's a cool dude. Yeah, he's a cool dude. I can remember when it was either when a Vietroderigo Vargas or Leva in London he sent me a video
Starting point is 00:40:25 like a selfie video going oh Petty the Betty and like I always said I don't think we'd end up fighting and he said the same he didn't like I remember when he was at UFC London the second one what I thought on when I fought Levy he was like the guest fight and he was saying
Starting point is 00:40:40 oh you know he was saying he'll be champion the next 12 months and then I'll come through in years to come and I don't think we ever thought we'd fight each other but it's just the way the cookie crumbles isn't it we've ended up being around at the same time still. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:40:55 I'd say he's 38. I'm only 30. I didn't know if he'd still be fighting now because over the years he's had some wars. He's been in a lot of scraps, you know, his body's feeling it. You know what I mean? Doesn't look like he does any wrestling
Starting point is 00:41:08 when he trains and that probably because like Kamara Usman, their knees are fucked. Like they've done that much wrestling over the years that the knees are absolutely fucked. Yeah. I've never really had a war. Like his chin's being tested several times, man. hasn't really
Starting point is 00:41:23 so I think that's going to play a factor in this fight the fact that I am more of a spring chicken and he's getting old he's a vet
Starting point is 00:41:32 no what I mean he had he fought Eddie Alvarez in a fight at the year in 2011 where he dropped each other about five times so his chins
Starting point is 00:41:41 being getting tested for years and years and I can just I can just see him on the end of one of my punches lot as he lunges in or the end of a knee
Starting point is 00:41:50 the end of a foot the end of an elbow and I'm just folding like a dech chair. Well, I'm pumped for this fight. I'm honestly low-key, more pumped for this fight than the main event. That lad. I think this is going to be a sick fight. I think you take the dove,
Starting point is 00:42:03 and I think this just shakes up the whole lightweight division and everything changes. The amount of people. Even, lad, I love Volk and I love Lopez, both very entertaining fighters. I've met a pair of them. They're both proper cool dudes. So in that fight, I'm not picking no one.
Starting point is 00:42:18 I wish them both the best, both the best of luck. and whoever wins wins but the amount of people this week that have been coming over to me and saying like you're the people's main event you're the people's main event and that just fills me with so much joy knowing that people are watching this show
Starting point is 00:42:35 to watch me they know that I come and I bring it and they want to watch me even though there's a world title fight at the main event they're saying they're going to watch the show for me you know I am going to bring it I want to come out and I am going to take Michael Chandler's head off whether a squeeze his throat that are
Starting point is 00:42:50 as fucking head gets decapitated or whether I fucking punch him kick him or elbow that he can't fucking keep conscious All right we're locking Patty in hard Let's go away No I'm pumped about it We wish you the best luck
Starting point is 00:43:04 I don't want to take up too much your time I know you got a busy week But we'll be there fucking cheering for you at the fight UFC 314 I'm fucking pumped about it I am not Let's go Patty Yeah let's do this
Starting point is 00:43:13 Patty's time man Can't wait to see his cage sad lad As I say I'll be jumping on that cage In celebration when I win lad I don't be like that. Let's go. I'm pumped. Paddy the Batty, baby.
Starting point is 00:43:23 Let's go.

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