FULL SEND PODCAST - Paddy Pimblett | Ep. 154
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All right, boys, we got a fucking sick pod today.
UFC fight week.
We got Patty the baddie on the pod.
It's been a long time in the making.
We've been going back and forth for, like, I looked today like two or three years.
So you come a long way, so I'm pumped to have you on, bro.
Yeah, you're not wrong.
There's a long time in the making, looking forward to this.
But, yeah, in them last three years, being some big developments in my career and my life.
So it's probably better that we've waited a little bit longer.
We've got more to talk about.
How do you like Miami?
I love it.
What's your first impressions?
it's great
we've only been here
for less than 48 hours
and it's a great city
it's probably
probably my favorite city
at this in San Diego
I think of me two favorite cities
ever since COVID too
Miami completely changed
so every time I come to fights here
they're like so fucking electric
so I think you're gonna love
fighting in the Miami atmosphere
I make it electric anyway
you know that so when I saw you say
on the interview you didn't interview
recently you were saying like
there's a ton of fans
in Miami area
you've been getting like recognized like yeah being in um quite a few pitches already being
getting some very nice word spoken to me so i can't wait to walk out i was saying yes they
on an interview the you know chanlap trains in miami and like if it was anyone else fighting
them they'd probably be like an away fighter and get booed but is that weird for you like
coming from overseas and coming to america and being like the hometown crowd is for you no
I think anywhere I go when my music comes on
Everyone just wants to be a part of the party
The Paddy Party, so
It's just going to be like any other night
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How did this fight come about and like,
did you have any say in like who you were fighting next
or did the UFC kind of just come to you with Chandler?
I don't care, did he say, you know what I mean?
Whoever I get offered, I say, yeah,
I'm never turning a fight down.
It's just not in me.
I'm a fighter.
So when Chandler, he first got mentioned in December
with a fight Michael Chandler next.
And I was like, yeah, of course I will.
It's a lovely jump up the rankings for me
and prepared to fight anyone.
And it took a while.
little while for it to get finalised really
I think he was recovering from
Sutton and he was trying to push it back to June
to my daughter's birthday, like five
days after the fight, so I want
to be able to actually enjoy their birthday
and enjoy a couple of little month or two
off with them and go on holiday and stuff, so
I just said I'm fighting April 12th
whether it's Michael Chandler or not
and he stepped up to the plate.
That's awesome. Well, he's a big star for sure,
no doubt. What do you make of his actual
skill set, like as a fighter?
He's well rounded, like he's got
the main thing that you've got to watch out for
as power in his hands
he comes forward
and he throws big
big left looks big overhand rights
as soon as you get punched in the face
he just wants to have a brawl
and I'll be using that against him
I was saying this yesterday
and I just I don't see where he can beat me
the only way he's going to beat me
is if he throws a Hail Mary punch
and it knocks me out but I don't get
knocked out lad so
I can see me just dismantling him
and beating him everywhere
and I can see me
me beating him more convincingly than
Porreier, Gagie and
Charles did. Because Charles went to
decision, right? Five rounds? So did Gagee.
Charles went five rounds.
Gagey went to decision with him.
Porreya submitted him in the third.
And in the first fight with Charles, he dropped
them in the first and nearly finished him, but then Charles
T-k-oed him in the second round.
But as I say, they've all made
hard work of him. They've all made a
tough fight. Most of them have been fight at a night.
No fight of the night coming this time.
I'm getting performance.
the night after the fast finish.
So after this fight, because Chandler's a fucking huge star.
So where do you think, if you beat Chandler, where does this elevate you in like
the lightweight division?
I feel like after this win for you, this is going to completely shake up lightweight.
Yeah.
Like crazy.
It is.
It's going to shake up lightweight in a big way.
It's a, I still get called a prospect.
No what I mean?
So once I beat Michael, that's going to change.
I'm not going to be a prospect anymore.
I'm going to be a contender.
I'll be coming and taking rank seven.
I'll be in the top seven fighters in the world
behind Islam Machachev,
and I'll be asking for the top four fighter after that.
Amon, Justin, Dustin or Charles,
want to fight one of them,
just want to beat one of them.
I'll be number one contender.
What about Ilya?
Because he's moving up to 155, right?
Yeah, always.
And you guys have a long history.
That press conference two years ago
was one of the most fucking entertaining
press conferences of all time.
chirps, like, calling him like a fucking
chorizo, sausage and shit.
That's funny. He should have changed his name to.
It was funny. He's made his, he's changed his nickname
to his shit nickname, hasn't he? Like,
legend or something. So they changed it to
El Chirito, but they've been well for you.
What do you make of his, like, evolvement?
Because that was, that was a long time ago.
And now, he's kind of fucking leveled up
like... Yeah, he has. But we always
knew he was a good fighter, no what I mean?
Like, that's sort of what pisses me off about him.
Even though I hate him and I think he's
a belland. Like, I would
I wouldn't lie and say he's a shit fighter, because he's not.
But that's what he says about me.
And it made me laugh and he said, what did he say?
He called me fat.
I'd say, lad, you can't make your weight division anymore
that you are champion of, and you're trying to call me fat.
He's a midget, lad.
He's tiny.
He's smaller than Michael Chandler.
He'll see what I do to Michael Chandler next Saturday night when I dismantle him.
And it'll be a very similar game plan to meet earlier.
He's small.
He walks forward, swinging shots.
I'll kick him up and down the octagon.
and I'll either knock him out or submit him.
Like that fight's there down the line.
No, I know, I mean.
100% that fight's got to happen.
That's a fight that you can have
as a pay-per-view main event
with no title on the line.
That gives me like chills just thinking about that.
The press conferences and shit,
that'd be crazy.
Yeah, the press.
You'd have to do a world tour for that
like they did with Aldo McGregor.
That would be fucking hilarious.
Yeah, Ilya, you know.
It's, it's there any time.
No what I mean?
Any time, lad.
Because it seems like they don't know what to do
because Ilya moved up.
I don't know if Islam wants to
fight him or not so like he's looking for an opponent
yeah yeah it seems like
this fight is really going to decide
a lot of stuff in that whole division
yeah it is as I've said
it a few times like
the old guard of the lightweight division
they're all on the way out we've got Chandler
who's 38 you've got
Dustin Justin and Charles
who were all 35 and older
I think even Danach might be 35
Mikearno's 38
Darius's 38
in the next two or three years
the top
10's going to look completely different.
The only person in the top 10
I can think of who's under 35s,
I'm in Surukia. He's just a little posh boy
who's had everything under to him on a silver platter by his dad.
Do you think he actually got injured or no?
What do you think happened? No, he's a little bitch ass.
That's what you are, I'm a little pussy boy.
I was confused too because, yeah, we had him on the
pod that week too, and then
I don't know, he was doing videos too
with the Nina, with Nina drama.
He was like wrestling and shit. And then...
And then he was doing them videos where he flips forward
on his neck. And then he's saying that he's going
a bad back
Dana said
didn't he
it was
Dana shot him
down in that
interview he was like
whoa
that's heavy
that you don't
want the boss
saying
that about you
but um
because he got
asked in near
arm and still
number one
and he was like
no
he's going to have to
go back
to the drawing board
yeah
he basically
said that like
doctors come
out and
heather
the best
masse
mousse and the
P.I
come out
and they never
said to him
you can't
fight
he decided
he's not
going to
fight
so basically
almond
you shit
your pants
know
what I mean
that's
did you farted and followed through
and had shit coming down your leg
so that's basically
what happened. Yeah, as a fan
that pull out fucking sucked for sure. Like I was
pissed when I saw that. Do you think Islam
moves up? That's what I was about to say
I read something just yesterday
saying he's going to wait until
the Balal Jack Delamanderina fight.
And see how that plays. Yeah, and if JDM wins he's going to
go up and fight for that belt.
But I don't think the UFC
would strip Islam
or make him vacate the belt like he did with Ilya
wouldn't surprise me if his lamb
does move up after this because
he deserves it, beating Volch
beating Porreye and then
Volk again and I know
the Moikano one was very
You went pretty hard on Moikano, right?
I was just being honest, no what I mean?
Did you say he should have just went to sleep?
Yeah, he's never going to get that opportunity again.
He's never going to fight for the lightweight title again.
He shouldn't have fought at that time.
He didn't deserve it, but he got the title shot.
if I got a title shot like that on 24 hours notice
I am even if I got a title shot on eight weeks notice
I am not going I'm not tapping in a choke
in an arm bar or a knee bar or a comora
where your arm's going to snap or you're going to have a career-threatening injury
yeah but when you go asleep you just wake back up
so go asleep go out on your shield
don't be a little bitch arse and tap in like three seconds
like I just I didn't get it
and then he clapped back and he said this and he said that but want to be channeler my carno's in the review you saw ilia like recently right and you guys dabbed each other up yeah it was quite funny because in the back all the ufc security was like
yeah look around like that and then he's come out and started walking towards where i was and there as i say all the ufc security is shitting themselves and then he's just looked up at me and went so i've just started laughing to myself and went and done it back
so obviously then when he was out on stage
I thought
can't argue with him here
he's just saluted me in the back and being all right
and obviously my little mate was fighting Nathan Fletcher
so I didn't want to take anything away from him
so as I walked past him
I just like thought
I'm gonna do me here and just felt like that
it was quite funny to be fair
if he was playing 3D chess he were the one
because if it was rock paper scissors lad
he went like that
but yeah he said something in an interview
after like we were in our fighting roles
or something like that but
it would have just caused
absolute havoc on the stage
would have been murder
and I'm not one of them
I'm not like him
I wouldn't punch someone when they don't expect it
or try to punch someone
when they don't expect it like he did to me
I'm not like that
I wouldn't steal it on someone
I'd let him know
and then I'd punch him in the face
Would you say this is the biggest fight of your career
Oh yeah
definitely the biggest fight of my career
Because you've been a star to for so long
but I feel like it's
It's been like
Have you been purposely taking your time
for like a big, big fight like this.
Do you know what I mean?
It's being a slow progression.
But my whole career has,
apart from when I was younger,
because I had my first amateur fight when I was 16
and then I turned professional when I was 17
because I had no amateur fights left to do.
I'd beat everyone.
At first I was going pretty fast.
Like, I won a world title when I was 21.
But then I lost twice,
and then, like, I moved up in weight and my body.
I was still too small for the weight class.
And I had to grow into me.
my build
and since then
we've took it pretty slow
we've just took it step by step
like I got off of two UFC
contacts before I actually signed
I got off of the contact when I was 21
and I got off of the contract when I was 23
and I didn't actually sign until
I was 26
really? What was the reason for that?
I knew I weren't ready
to be honest we spoke about to
my coaches and I wasn't
I was still a child still a child fighting
men and I know for the fact
that were they coming to the UFC at that time
I probably would have got ragged all by men
where I was a very small fighter
I wasn't big at all
and I had a lot of holes in my game
a lot of things that I needed to work on
and over time
we've worked on it and
now I feel like a complete fighter
I don't feel like I'm outmatched
by anyone in the division anywhere
the fight goes. Was that tough to turn down at the time
because I'm sure the money in the UFC must have been
like better than whatever you were fighting for
in another league, right?
That's like a pretty calculated decision.
No, it wasn't better?
When I got off of the first contract,
I got off of the new Cage Warriors deal
and that deal was worth more
than the base contract
for the UFC.
And I done a lot with that money, you know what I mean?
I saved that money up over years
to get a house deposit myself, pay me mum's
mortgage off, done a few things like that.
And that money done a lot
for me over them years. So
I'm very grateful to Cage Warriors.
They set me up.
for the start of my adult life, really,
because that was when I was 21 when I first started getting that wage.
When I first signed for the UFC, I took a pay cut.
Because as you know, the UFC started deals 10 and 10.
I signed for a pay cut.
The first two fights, the 10 and 10 and 12 and 12.
And then obviously after the only second fight,
I got a new deal, and it went out.
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outside the ring too right how much do you rely
on like business and financial stuff outside the ring compared to like inside the ring.
Well, now I've got a new contract again, so I'm getting more money to fight.
Yeah, I have sponsors outside of the cage and other things like that.
Like me two main sponsors are Undrana, what I've got on now, I've got that.
That's a fucking dope sponsor.
Yeah, it's a heavy sponsor, lad.
Great sponsor.
I got that, and I've been sponsored by a nutrition company called Applied Nutrition for two years now, three years.
They're my two main sponsors.
They were...
I get my money
and outside of fighting.
What happened
with the bar stool
deal?
It used to be with them,
right?
Yeah,
yeah,
used to do a bar stool.
That was,
that deal was unbelievable.
I mean,
but it was when Dave
Dave bought Barstool back
for one dollar
because the pair and company
were added at first,
like,
had it before Dave bought it back.
They had it in debt,
I think.
You know what I mean?
Where they just wanted to do
the sports book.
So when Dave bought it back,
he cut a lot of jobs
and cut a lot of thing
to make sure it was
making profit again.
Right.
And he just said,
like,
I'll always be here for you or anything you need.
Just let me know.
But the sponsorship was going to end.
One thing you're always famous for, too, is your weight cuts
and, like, how you used to fluctuate and weight like crazy.
Are you still gaining weight like that in between fights like you used to?
We'll see when I go to America next.
It's America what does it to me, lad.
When I go to America, lad, the fucking food here,
I put ridiculous amounts of weight on.
Never forget being in San Diego.
I'm wearing myself one Monday morning.
And I was like 96 kilo, 2.10, 2.15.
2.10. Holy shit.
I was like 96 kilo.
But like that's a lot of water and like keeping all of it because I weighed myself again on the Friday after a week of training.
And I was like 90 kilo.
So you probably cut like 20, 25 for a fight too, right?
Or whatever it is.
And then that's another like 30.40.
Normally walk around about 185 to 195 walk around about that.
Right now I'm only like 172.
this wakewood's going to be pretty easy to be honest
compared to other ones have done in the past
what like fucks you in America
like after like what cheat meals
everything everything
what's your three favorite restaurants here
in and out
loving in and out burger
four by four
yeah unbelievable
absolutely unbelievable Jeff
I like everything
wings
I love Italian food I love Thai food
Italians it's the best
pasta we've walked past a few
Mexican restaurants here
what I think
look fantastic
Yeah
Even like the diners
And things like that
And then obviously
You've got like
Dunkin' Donuts
And
Ooh
You're a big sweets
Yeah
What like donuts
cookies
Yeah
cookies
Like forever had
The cookie dough pie
Ooh I have
I've tried that
Yeah
Yeah
Well I had one of them
With some ice cream
Lad
Them cookie dough pies
Are the best
Desert on the planet
That unbelieve
I'm just sitting here
Now salivating
Over it
Thinking wow
When I have a
cookie dough pie
when I get home
there's a shot by ours
that does them
that big tick ones
I'll be eating them celebrating
so this going into this fight
like what wait
were you kind of like
chilling at for the last few months
like were you up to
210 that high
the highest that I got before this fight
was like 88 kilo
which is
I think that's like
193 something like that
I'm the last fight
when I fought Bobby Green
the night before the way
and I was 1 69.5
so I've done 30 and a half
pound overnight in the bath.
How much of a toll does that take on you?
It's one of them.
You've got to have the mental fortitude for it.
It's more mental and physical.
A lot of people are bitches when it comes to the bath
and want to get out and like,
oh, I can't do this.
I'd be a bitch.
That sounds fucked.
As I say, you've got to be mentally strong to do it.
But as I say, this is going to be,
this one's going to be pretty easy for me.
As I said, if I done 30 and a half pound last time
and I was heavier at this stage last time, a week out,
I wasn't 172
It was more like
174, 175
So this time
I'm going to have less weight to cut
Probably feels nice
Yeah, that's the other thing
As long as I've got less than 30 and a half pound
I'm very happy
And I know I'm going to have less than 30 and a half pound
Did you have to change like stuff
Based on prior weight cuts
Like was there ever a weight cut that was like kale
I got a no more fucking cookie cream pie
Yeah, I've had a few
Um
It was more when I was making featherweight
when I was fighting a featherweight
two times
that I went five rounds as well
when I fought Julian a Rosa
I cut 8.3 kilo overnight
I think it's about 18 pounds
something like that 17 pound
I cut that
overnight
and then when I thought
Nad Naramani had done 16 pounds overnight
I felt like absolute dog shit
in the fight
against the Rosa
after the third round I cast
and was just surviving for two rounds
and then again in the NAD fight
I was pretty similar
it was just surviving towards the later end of the fight
so doing less weight obviously helps
and it'll help me even more
because you've seen how
jacked Michael Chandler is
even though he's very small
he's probably going to cut a lot of weight as well
because he's so wide
was it your last fight you gave
the post fight speed about mental health
yeah no that was a few years ago
yeah that was
2023
the night after
my mate killed himself
that was like a really big moment
and I saw that it kind of like
affected like a lot of people
there was like a big response
on the internet
is that still like a passion year's
like men's mental health
yeah they still get messages about it now
I mean people
and when I bump into some people
like oh you save my life
or you save my mate's life
or my son's life
I'm just like
I didn't save anyone's life
that I just said
what anyone in my position should say
feel like people who
are in the public high
anything like that
he should speak about
because people
do sit up
and take notice
things like that
that's proper close
to my heart
now because
Ricky took his own life
and as I say
it was 36 hours
before I fought
it was on
early hours
on the Thursday morning
what I found out
and then I weighed in
the next morning
and then fought
the next night
it was a rough one
but it was just
I never planned
to do that
it just
he'd come to my head
when I was about
when I was doing
me talk
my post-fight interview
and I just thought
I need to speak about this
because the amount of people
that you're able to kill themselves now
it still happens now
news of people killing themselves
a lad who used to train with the San Diego
Hacher seen he killed himself a few months ago
and you know
it's heart breaking, it's tragic
now with the Baddy Foundation
I try and help charities
as well help with men's mental
health as a charity in live well in the UK
called James's Place
and we donated money to that from my foundation
so that he can employ an ex-operate
person for two years and they can be a counselor. So it's just like a stigma, right, that like men
are supposed to be tough and hard and like they can never feel away or like, is that kind of what
it's about? Yeah, it's a proper old fashioned stigma. I don't know what I mean? That's like saying
women should only stay in the kitchen. No what I mean? Like saying men shouldn't talk. It's a thing of
the past. It's something that we shouldn't be even saying in 2025. Is that something that's ever like
personally affected you like mental health? Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. Like, as I said before, I lost two fights out of three at one point in my career.
And I went into the second fight injured. I shouldn't have fought.
Went to the second fight with a broken hand.
But I felt like the whole show was riding on me. It needed me.
Otherwise, it wouldn't have, it wouldn't have worked.
And I had about 18-mate fighting on it.
So I didn't pull out. I should have.
I still thought. I had a splint on my hand.
even like a week before the fight training
I had a splint underneath my boxing wraps
again I shouldn't have done it
but after that fight it affected me bad
because in the first round
I had a deep re-eating choke on
and if my hand weren't so weak
it would have put them to sleep
but because my hand was so weak
it never and it burnt my arms out
and I lost a fight over five rounds
so just every morning I'd wake up
my now wife had given me a kiss and go to work
and I'd just lie there crying
just like what as this happened
have I not won that belt
and I was like that for months and months and months
because of that with my hand I didn't
I couldn't fight because I had to have more surgery
and I didn't fight for like 18 months
I was meant to fight like 14 months later
but some fat dick head weight in like
now and par and overweight so I couldn't fight
and then as I said then I ended up fighting for 18 months
and then my whole world nearly fell apart again
because the weekend that was meant to fight
was the weekend that all the COVID restrictions came in
so we had to fight behind closed doors
it was luckily enough like Cage Warriors
was the first and only sporting events
to happen that weekend
the same weekend that UFC London got cancelled
Cage Warriors did the show behind closed doors
so I was lucky that I even got to fight
otherwise I would have hit a deeper depression
that place where I mentioned before James's place
without them
I don't know if it still be here
because I went and got counselling
and went and spoke to someone in there
who helped me a lot.
So what would be your biggest advice to someone
that's like, you know,
struggling with something?
Just talk to somebody?
Get it off your chest.
You know what I mean?
Like, it's funny because
he sat to you,
my boxing coach Chris.
I remember sitting with him
and him saying something like that
to me,
oh, lad, you speak about it?
It's not as bad for it.
And I sat there and
I ended up crying,
speaking to him.
And like, I woke up the next day
and I felt like a weight
of being lifted off my shoulders.
And as I said,
I was going to counselling and stuff like that as well
and I think I told the misses and I told someone else
but even at that time I had that stigma
I was like I can't speak to the missus about this
she'll think less of me
can't speak to me mate about this
they'll think I'm a mushroom
especially maybe as a fighter too
you're even more supposed to be like the epitome
of like a hard ass person
and I'm not meant to feel like that
but just shows that anybody can feel like that
doesn't matter what war or life you're in
or how hard or tough you are
or how confident you're
because I am when it comes to fighting
I'm the most confident person in the world
I don't think anyone will beat me
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fight for now as opposed to maybe in the past has it changed at all well now that i've had kids
and i've got two babies i fight for them when if like obviously everyone has that little thing in
them when you feel like quitting they don't want to do no more i just think of me kids and i think of me
opponent trying to take food out my kid's mouth
and I think no this isn't happening
I want to work harder I want to make sure
that I am unbeatable
that is my main motivation
all the lads have said to me
since I actually had the kids
there's been like a switch in me
I haven't noticed it personally because I'm just me
but my family
my friends
my coaches my teammates have all said
that I'm a lot more focused
I'm a lot more switched on
I'm trying even harder than I've ever tried
and it's because I've got a wife
two children and I need to look after.
I need to provide for, and I'm not letting
no man beat me and stop
me from providing for them.
I bet that keeps you, like, more dialed, right?
Just having that.
Like when you were coming up, did you ever go through
like a little bit of a...
Oh, yeah, when I was younger.
That lad, when I was younger, when I was 21
and I won that cage warrior's world title,
it went to me head of it.
I was going out partying all the time,
going out Saturday, Sunday,
out till 4.35 in the morning.
Then I'd have three hours sleep and get up and go to gym.
and I just wasn't focused
I wasn't all in
like you need to be in this game
and that's why I'm so glad
that I didn't go to UFC
when I first got offered
because I had to have that
realisation years ago
I had to have that when I was 21-22
thinking I was the boy
thinking I was the best in the world already
thinking I didn't need to work on nothing
like back then I wasn't in the gym
consistently 365 days a year
I was going in for fight camps
and it was focused on weight cuts
I wasn't really focused on technique
you can get them better where now
I'm in the gym every single day
even after a fight even when you see me fat
I'm in the gym every day training
I don't miss a session
I'm in there
whether I'm fat whether I'm injured if I'm watching
I'm in the gym training every day
getting better every day I don't have days off anymore
like that's why my physique's the way it is now
because it's fucking like
just as a fan like I can only imagine
but it's just the toughest sport
to like be at the top
compared to any other sport I feel
like it's the UFC is just the most
competitive thing
to be champion you got to just be like
fully committed to your craft right
yeah that's so much respect for like you guys
I didn't let it get to me head too much in the UFC
but even going into the Jared Gordon fight
what a lot of people think I lost was a close fight
I thought it was a foregone conclusion
I was gonna win
I was like I was already thinking about the next opponent
I had to get my head screwed on a bit more
that was a proper blessing in the scars
I could have lost on that night
very easily
a lot of journalists
a lot of MMA fighters
a lot of people think it was a robbery
I personally watched it back
and I think it was a close fight
I still think I won
but obviously I have a little bit of bias
I have a little bit of bias towards myself
and it was very close
and I was half lucky to get the win that night
but that fight
changed me
like
oh really
yeah it really did
I'll never overlook an opponent
ever again
I overlooked Jared
I thought this is a foregone conclusion
I'm going to win here.
He fought one of my former teammates
and he just about beat him over three rounds
and I used to school that teammate every sparring session.
So I thought, yeah, it's easy this.
But styles make fights.
His style on the night was a good, very good style
to beat me.
I did get injured in the first round.
I snapped my ankle in the first round
so I didn't have much mobility for like 14 minutes.
That's why I couldn't get out the way of his left hook.
I kept stepping back and just get a clock at the left hook
because I couldn't move properly
but at the same time
I can't take nothing away from him
Jared Gordon's still my artist fight to date
100%
like without that fight I don't think that'd be where I am now
if I were the steamroll Jared
and then fought someone in the top 15
you never know my career might be different
I might have got beaten by it
Yeah exactly everything happens for the reason
I see Sugar Sean he posted recently
He's kind of talking about that too
He's made a lot of lifestyle changes
I think he said he hasn't like jerked off
Or like that was a weird
He quit, I don't know if we needed to know that, sugar, but he quit
smoking weed, so I guess he kind of had a realization like that too, which is
interesting, but what do you think about that fight?
They just announced that Sugar Marab, too.
I think it's a mad one, to be honest, because he hasn't fought since he got beat by Marab,
as he?
But Sean's a star.
He's one of the biggest stars in the sport.
Probably got, like, one of the most followers out of everyone, and he's pay-per-view.
You know what I mean?
People want to see him fight.
You think he has a chance to beat Marab?
Yeah, especially if he comes in with some adjustments.
Yeah, because he didn't look like himself totally in the last fight,
but that could have just been Marab being so good.
Because Maraab, what did you think of his performance against the Umar?
Rav's quality, lads.
It's fucking crazy.
Yeah, his cardio is ridiculous.
I don't know, it really is.
Like, he's probably got the best cardio on the UFC at the minute.
Like, I've read something that he does five rounds in the back before he comes out on fights.
I bet.
The guy's a nut, yeah.
Wouldn't surprise me.
He made him.
Mark looks silly in the later rounds.
He schooled him in round three, four, and five.
He really did make him look silly.
So Marab's going to be a tough one to be for anyone.
Never mind, Sean O'Malley or whoever,
Marab's going to be a tough champion to take the belt off.
If anyone could do it, Sean O'Malley can.
He knocked Algevin Stirling out,
and no one thought he was going to do that.
Yeah, let's see what happens.
Think it'll be a good fight.
I still want to see Sean O'Malley versus Peter Jan too.
That would be good.
That was a scrap, the first fight, so I'd love to see.
Yeah, Sugar wins.
maybe that'll happen or Umar.
Yeah.
If PT Am wins in other fights,
he's definitely number one contender.
Yeah.
Because he's back number three or something like that,
number four.
Yeah.
A lot of people are saying that
the UFC is just lacking
stars as champions right now.
Would you agree with that?
Like Pereira just lost.
People don't think Ballal's a huge star
at Welterweight.
Yeah, he's not.
No disrespect, Palal, but you're not.
Do you think they're having a bit of a bit of trouble
with that right now?
It's one of them, though.
Like, the best fighters in the world have to build.
doesn't need to be a star
it's just the best fighter in the world has that belt
I think Sean Brady's a brilliant fighter
if JDM doesn't win
he's next in line with it what's saying that
there's still Shavkat
Shavkat also in line for the title
but he keeps getting injured
or Bala got injured the first time
so Welterweight's gonna get a shake up I think
like the belt could change hands multiple times
at Welterweight
If Islam goes up there too
Yeah if Islam goes up you never know
he could win the belt
If he's bit like if he can
If he can wrestle for some of them
people at well to wait
like he's taking that belt
years
was par for power
number one in the world
at the minute
like I've got the toughest
division to try to take
the belt from
Lightweight's always been
the most down for
Yeah
apart from light heavy weight
years ago when I was growing up
when you had like
Rampage showgun
Rashard
Oh that was what
Light Heavyweight
Forrest Griffin yeah
Those were the days
That's when I was really
started watching UFC
That's when I first started watching UFC
Yeah
All of them
Yeah
I know what you mean
With Perea losing the belt
To UFC probably
didn't want that to happen
because he is a big star perera
that was the first fight I've watched them live as well
and they got beat by Ankalive
yeah you know it's one of them the best in the world
they're gonna have the belt that's just the way it is
especially with the UFC it's not like boxing
where you'd have like five different belts
you'd have one belt in each weight class
and they are the best in the world
whoever has that belt
but I don't think you need to have a belt
to be a star
no I mean definitely not yeah definitely not
for me I'm only ranked 12
but I've got like three and a half million followers
but I've got more followers
followers the most champs have
and then even earlier now he's a star
but he hasn't got a belt
star too no what I mean
Kamsat everybody loves Kamsat
Kamsat hasn't got a belt
stuff like that
I don't think there's a lot of stars in the making
that could be champs yeah definitely
I think it's going to get shaken up like
come a year from now it's going to look
obviously totally different
and other switches and stuff
definitely do you think the Aspinall Jones
fights happens
got to happen
I was sitting next to Tom the other week at the UFC
in London and talking to him
about it and like it's gotta happen
there's no way that can't happen
how do you think that plays out if they fight
I'll be honest Tom's a friend I love Tom
he's one of the coolest dudes in the whole of MMA
even though Jones is getting out I just
can't pick against John Jones I've been
watching John Jones as I say since
2010 I can remember
watching when he got DQed against Matt Hamill
live how has he been in the game
so long like he's been there since those
guys we just mentioned like he's been
beat all them guys he was there when GSP was in
it's far it's mad
he's got proper longevity and the one thing i do think john jones has got the best in the world and the best ever is his fight IQ he game plans to beat people and he he doesn't fight the same way every fight he has a perfect game plan to beat that person and as much as a loved song and i want some to win i couldn't pick against john jones it's just something i couldn't do i know you say you don't overlook an opponent but do you ever think about like you're like two year plan or three year plan whatever it is like how do you see your career
playing out
yeah obviously I don't look past the opponent but
you probably visualize and think about how you want
I want to beat Michael Chandler
I'm going to finish Michael Chandler in two
two rounds yeah
all right prize picks right that
and then I'm on a
fight someone like Charles Olivera
in Abu Dhabi
Charles or Justin
I think Dustin will be retired by then
so fight over even Armin but I think he'll have a fight by then
and then once I beat them
fight for the title
2026. That's
my roadmap. That's the
part I'm going to follow. That'd be fucking crazy.
I think the I think the Ilya fight's got to happen.
Yeah, it's got it happen now. I just want to come
to the press conference and sit... Everyone was
saying to me, would you like Ilya to become champ?
Because then I'll probably get a title shot straight away.
I know. I don't want him to be champ.
I don't want to be champ at all. Fuck that midger.
No what I mean? I'd rather win the belt.
And then he can fight for the title
when I've got it. And I'll have me first
offense, smashing his little seat in.
you ever do a fight like outside the UFC one day when your contract's up like do
ever think about those super fights like a boxing fight or anything like that i'm in this
game to be a world champion no what i mean but the prize fighters at the end of the day
obviously it's not going to be like a mayweather mcgregor but if a something like that happened
and someone was offering me millions of pounds hundreds of millions to box someone i'm doing it
ilia patty would be like on that level i think not mcgregor mayweather but yeah that would be
fucking big. That's
two stars. Yeah, that I'd do pay-per-view
bars 100%. It'd do
more than most title fights. That's why I'm saying
you don't even need the title on the line for that
fight. That's just a pay-per-view
headliner right there.
How's your relationship to evolve with the UFC
over the years? I've always had a good
relationship with the UFC. You know what I mean?
Over time, like I can remember
obviously when I turned the UFC down
the second time, I lost
my fight after it.
The amount of hate I was getting on that. Like, he's
never going to get the UFC now, they're never going to want him, this and that.
And then as I said, I had to sit out for 18 months because I was injured.
That's all I heard.
Oh, he should have took the UFC when he had the chance, this and that.
And then I had two fights in a year and caught off of the contract.
And a lot of people thought that the UFC wouldn't like me or wouldn't offer me
other contract because I'd turn them down at first.
And it was the opposite.
You know what I mean?
As soon as I had that first fight, as soon as I absolutely.
knocked Luigi Venzumini out
and got the mic and said scoutsers
don't get knocked out
the UFC have loved me
and you're gone out of you know what I mean
I don't look like a fighter
I look like fucking Hansen
Mba
no I mean so as I say
I've got a great relationship with the UFC
I always have done since the first sign
and I can't see it sour on any time soon
I think we're always going to have a good relationship
the way my career has progressed
it's being perfect it's been perfect time
now getting a nice jump with the rankings
I can't thank them enough because I'm number 12
fighting number seven I've got to
come in and this is your time yeah this is my time
I've got to come in and show everyone
the old guard is fading out
and the new guard's coming through and I am one of the new
guard yeah I like Chandler he's a great guy
I just think I just think he doesn't
he gets a little lost and I think he's going to try to brawl
and I think you're just going to definitely I think you're going to
pick him apart he comes out and tries to entertain
yeah like obviously I love entertaining
Which is great.
It's great.
But first and foremost, the fights, we want to win the fight.
It sounds bad to say, but I'd obviously rather have a boring fight and win it.
He kind of does just say it too.
He's like, we're going to go out and put on a show.
Like, he never actually says, like, you know, I'm going to beat him.
That's what I mean.
He's always like, we're going to put on a great show.
I've done a split screen interview yesterday.
And he basically said that.
Yeah.
It's got to be fireworks going on this and that.
Yeah.
And then when I got asked, there's like, he's getting finished in two.
Yeah.
I mean, I just said, yeah, he's getting beat.
Yeah.
And he just said, we're going to have a great fight, in that.
And he keeps saying, like, I'm going to test that chair and one of this and that.
But he's not saying, like, yeah, I'm going to win, I'm going to win.
He comes off very confidence and stuff like that.
But at the same time, I don't think he is.
I think he has in the back of his mind that he's going to lose.
Yeah.
I seen a tweet a couple of weeks ago.
Someone tweeted him saying, I'm going to bet the house on you or should I bet the house on you.
And he tweeted back, no.
Really?
What?
Yeah, I wouldn't bet the house on channel.
Yeah.
If someone asked me that, though, it would be like, yeah, bet the house on me because I'm going to win.
Yeah.
Chandler needs to get into motivational speaking.
Have you seen his Instagram?
Yeah.
A lad he needs to get into motivational speaking him, lot.
He'd be a great motivational speaker on stage just talking.
I reckon that's what he's going to go into.
He's actually a fucking great dude.
Yeah, when I, like, gambled with him at Vegas.
I've met him a few times.
He's a very nice guy.
Like, after it'd be Tony, you come over to him,
and started talking to me and stuff.
Oh, yeah, you guys had that, you guys had the interaction.
Yeah, yeah.
He's like, I think he's a cool dude.
Yeah, he's a cool dude.
I can remember when it was either when a Vietroderigo
Vargas or Leva in London
he sent me a video
like a selfie video
going oh Petty
the Betty and like I
always said I don't think we'd end up fighting
and he said the same he didn't like
I remember when he was at UFC London
the second one what I thought on when I fought Levy
he was like the guest fight and he was saying
oh you know he was saying he'll be champion
the next 12 months and then I'll come through in years
to come and I don't think we ever thought
we'd fight each other but
it's just
the way the cookie crumbles isn't it we've
ended up being around at the same time still.
You know what I mean?
I'd say he's 38.
I'm only 30.
I didn't know if he'd still be fighting now
because over the years he's had some wars.
He's been in a lot of scraps, you know,
his body's feeling it.
You know what I mean?
Doesn't look like he does any wrestling
when he trains and that probably because like Kamara Usman,
their knees are fucked.
Like they've done that much wrestling over the years
that the knees are absolutely fucked.
Yeah.
I've never really had a war.
Like his chin's being tested several times, man.
hasn't really
so I think that's
going to play a factor
in this fight
the fact that
I am more of a
spring chicken
and he's getting old
he's a vet
no what I mean
he had
he fought Eddie Alvarez
in a fight at the year
in 2011
where he dropped each other
about five times
so his chins
being getting tested
for years and years
and I can just
I can just see him
on the end
of one of my punches
lot as he lunges in
or the end of a knee
the end of a foot
the end of an elbow
and I'm just folding like a dech chair.
Well, I'm pumped for this fight.
I'm honestly low-key, more pumped for this fight than the main event.
That lad.
I think this is going to be a sick fight.
I think you take the dove,
and I think this just shakes up the whole lightweight division
and everything changes.
The amount of people.
Even, lad, I love Volk and I love Lopez,
both very entertaining fighters.
I've met a pair of them.
They're both proper cool dudes.
So in that fight, I'm not picking no one.
I wish them both the best, both the best of luck.
and whoever wins wins
but the amount of people this week
that have been coming over to me
and saying like you're the people's main event
you're the people's main event
and that just fills me with so much joy
knowing that people are watching this show
to watch me
they know that I come and I bring it
and they want to watch me
even though there's a world title fight at the main event
they're saying they're going to watch the show for me
you know I am going to bring it
I want to come out and I am going to take Michael Chandler's head off
whether a squeeze his throat that are
as fucking head gets decapitated
or whether I fucking punch him
kick him or elbow
that he can't fucking keep conscious
All right we're locking Patty in hard
Let's go away
No I'm pumped about it
We wish you the best luck
I don't want to take up too much your time
I know you got a busy week
But we'll be there fucking cheering for you at the fight
UFC 314
I'm fucking pumped about it
I am not
Let's go Patty
Yeah let's do this
Patty's time man
Can't wait to see his cage sad lad
As I say I'll be jumping on that cage
In celebration when I win lad
I don't be like that.
Let's go.
I'm pumped.
Paddy the Batty, baby.
Let's go.