FULL SEND PODCAST - Patrick Bet-David x Nelk Boys | Ep. 132

Episode Date: August 29, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Good, boys. Good. What's good. Wow, what a crib. It's good. Thank you, you too. How's everything? Thanks for having us.
Starting point is 00:00:07 Of course. Yeah, let me show you. Let me show you back. Every house is on the water. Every one of them. Ray Crock lived here. Big Thomas lived here. KFC founder lived here.
Starting point is 00:00:20 Billionaires, I think six billionaire family. That's Messy's place. That one? George Clooney is my neighbor in LA. You live in LA still? Yeah. Why are you still in LA? It's just easier for me.
Starting point is 00:00:31 Everyone's there, bro. Is that it? Gotta be kidding me. It's a beautiful state, bro. Go down here this way to Miami. 15 minutes, you're in the middle of the ocean. Crazy. On a Sunday, Saturday, thousands of boats will come by here.
Starting point is 00:00:46 The yacht show, this is a place to be. Next spot in Miami, maybe, or maybe two spots from now. How often do you sit out here? Just hope somebody drives flying goes, PBD! All the time. Not for that, but all the time. We'll sit out here and just relax them when sun hits you. So you know something?
Starting point is 00:01:00 times you're like not using the house we use this house a lot you ever read the book no more mr nice guy i have not no so it's a very good book that talks about how you know the the average man boy who's raised by a mother mainly say parents got a divorce and mom raised them has to read this book no man mr nice guy but everybody that i ever recommend this book to read and say they're married they immediately have a big fight with the wife after they read the book because it's a dramatic difference of what it is to be a man raised by a man versus a man being raised by a woman what's the main the main difference or takeaway stop being a nice guy stop trying to be like uh you know as a father as a husband as a man as a father like everything is trying to make sure everybody is happy around you
Starting point is 00:01:53 certain things is about standards and expectation. But boys who are raised by moms alone, they're more coddle, they're soft, you know, they're sensitive, they're, you know, they have a different way. I was raised by my mother. My dad was not in a picture for six years. So eventually my training for me was going to the military.
Starting point is 00:02:13 Three years, they kick your ass and they don't feel bad for you at all. So that's a major shift you've got to make. So how does the wife get upset? Like what do you tell the wife that needs to change? Because a lot of times, it's you know the husband is trying to make every decision to make the wife happy who's the leader of the household sometimes it's not about making a wife happy I'm the leader here's what we're going to be doing so one as a man you have to win the moral authority to be
Starting point is 00:02:37 able to have that kind of you know standard and tone if you don't win the moral authority you're always worried about making her happy so step number one is you got to win the moral authority but if you have it and you don't drive and lead the family then you're raising soft boys. All right, boys. Finally, football is back. College is back. NFL's coming up.
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Starting point is 00:04:09 Download the prize picks app. Football is officially back. Thank God. Let's get on the pod. So to win the moral authority from the wife, though, that means you can't be whipped at the same time. No, you cannot be. No. What's the best steps to not be whipped?
Starting point is 00:04:21 the wife or the girlfriend so whipped normally doesn't last that long anyways right some guys it does well in marriage or relationship yeah there's a difference i think in marriage that goes away in marriage is different because because relationships though in relationship yes well we're talking you're talking to someone who's kind of going through that you or whipped him he's whipped i'm whipped i'm never i've never seen a whip i've never seen a whip in my life he you're good i've never seen a whip in my life i'm actually glad we're on this topic because we're not whipped we don't get controlled by we make the calls he's kind of going through the whole she's there at all times can't be separated makes his schedule revolve around her he's capping so hard we're trying to we're trying to fix that that's part of the reason
Starting point is 00:05:08 why we're here today so he's like dr phil it's dr steiny i like that's a yeah very impressive no uh look i've been on the whipped side myself where it was like one day i'm i'm so whipped with us one girl. Let's use this frame, okay, this, this word. And I'm crazy about this girl. I'm 21, 22 years old. Everything to me revolves around this scroll. Okay. I'm in love. Drop that gorgeous. I got out of the military. Every guy wanted to be with this girl and she's with me. And chaos in the relationship starts going to a whole different level. I go from playing to fully being committed. Okay, I'm going to be fully committed to this. And then one day, you know, you know how sometimes in life, extreme men, extreme people typically go like this.
Starting point is 00:05:54 We don't know how to go like this. We go from here to here, right? Like you go from a relationship that's like this to this. You don't realize this is also a mistake. We got to go like this, right? We got to go here a little bit, right? So this relationship is chaotic. Fighting all the time.
Starting point is 00:06:12 Nothing can make her happy. But I'm also not making money at the time. I'm barely like trying to build my insurance business. you know it's problematic it's issues chaos and then the mother sits me down one day and she says pat can i give you feedback her mother and i would have dinner every night at 11 o'clock at night i'd finish my last appointment i'd come home she'd make me bored so she'd make me food and we sit and we talk her and i were like this and she says to me you're too good for my daughter i said what do you mean she says you're too good it says too much my daughter can't do anything
Starting point is 00:06:46 wrong in your eyes. It's a little too much, Russian lady. And I'm talking like mob style, like tough, but a sweetheart. I love this lady. She said, this is not going to work. She's in the garage.
Starting point is 00:06:58 She hears the conversation. She comes in, why are you saying this to him? What kind of a thing is that to say to the guy your daughter is dating? But I'm right. Look how he does to you. Look how he is to you.
Starting point is 00:07:10 And then two months later, relationship ends. We're supposed to get married, all this stuff. And then I'm like, like, yeah, you know what? I'm not ready for a relationship for a minute. I've got to figure this thing at it. And I'm 24, 25 years old at the time.
Starting point is 00:07:23 We break up August of 03 is when it happens, give or take, somewhere at that time. And then adjustment comes. I read a book. All I do is I read books on relationships. I read this, you know, a book I told you about and a couple of the books about what it is to be a man and be a leader. And I'm like, no, this is not how we're going to do it.
Starting point is 00:07:44 My wife the other day, we were having a conversation about HR on how we recruit people. We're in New York sitting on having a meeting with Goldman Sachs. David Solomon, you know, all their major, highest ranked people at Goldman Sachs in New York. We had a seven-hour meeting with them. Very intense. A part of it was about the technology,
Starting point is 00:08:00 Manex, so we met with their TMT team, technology, media, telecommunication. We met with their biggest money manager, private investment banker that manages $1.2 trillion of wealth. All these people are during the meeting. Real quick. You said your wife was with you in the meeting? Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:08:14 She's in the meeting with me. We're there, and then we leave, and I'm asking David Solomon, I said, hey, David, during COVID, there was two articles written about you that really challenged the Goldman Sachs culture. I like the way you handled it, but I want to hear a little bit more. Goldman Sachs got criticism saying bankers are young bankers and brokers at Goldman Sachs are asking to only work 80 hours a week and have Saturdays off. Bankers are asking Goldman Sachs to allow them to only work 80 hours. a week. Keep in mind, to only work 80 hours a week. 80 hours on five days is what? 8 to 12, or 7 or 11, or 6 to 10, 6 a.m. to 10 o'clock at night. Crazy schedule, 16 hour days
Starting point is 00:08:58 times five days a week. That's 80 hours a week, right? And one of them says the toxic Goldman Sachs environment of working 100 hours a week article. And I said, how'd you handle it? Says, look, Goldman Sachs is a great company, but it's a tough job. So then I ask everybody around. I'm like, okay when somebody gets fired how do you guys fire somebody says oh it's very interesting how you get fired you so what's that so sometimes a co-worker will come and fire you so what do you mean he says sometimes like does he report to him or no who doesn't report to who does he report to him no one reports to steyer yeah okay that's the key so no one reports to stey that's a longer story not not in this room but let you say he doesn't report to him yeah and he's getting out of line
Starting point is 00:09:39 okay he would go to him and say hey man it's got to tell you it's not working out today's your last day culture of Happy Dad or Y'all and how full sent. That's the culture at Goldman. That'd be a bit fun. How does the coworker have that authority? Well, because it's standards ran by pure pressure type of environment. And he says you go meet with HR. Today's your last day.
Starting point is 00:09:59 Okay. Can we do that here? I don't think there'd be anyone left. That's true. You would have fired Gabe 10 times. Gabe would have fired you 200 times. Check this out. Jimmy would be homeless for two years.
Starting point is 00:10:12 This doesn't work in every company, especially not media. This is not media. This is investment bankers trying to raise money where the minimum to become a client of Goldman Sachs, you need to bring $10 million of cash. This is a very hard job, right? However, the whole thing comes back to us, the way we recruit people at HR,
Starting point is 00:10:33 too many times people recruit people and they're selling the dream. It's going to be awesome. It's going to be great. We're such a great company. This is such a fantastic place to work. We're such a work-life balance place. Right before this, I was having a meeting with my chief HR officer, RJ, who used to be at Microsoft in the early 2000s,
Starting point is 00:10:51 and then he was the HR guy at Uber and at Chevron. He's been around, he's very good. He says at Microsoft, the first thing they told you in the interview was, look, I just want to tell you at Microsoft, what do you think about work-life balance? Why? Ther-da-da-da-da-da. Great, we could care less about work-life balance. It's not a priority for us at Microsoft. Imagine saying that in the interview.
Starting point is 00:11:10 So my wife and I, let me bring you back to the relationship conversation we started off with. When my wife and I got married, not the girls I was with, my conversation, because I knew what I wanted to build and how long of a run I wanted to go on, the conversation my wife was, are you sure you want to marry me? Do you sure you want to do this? It wasn't one day. It was, you sure you want to be with a crazy guy like this that's nonstop?
Starting point is 00:11:34 Are you sure you want to do this? We had some of the biggest fights because she would say, what else do I need to do to convince you I'm in? I'm not afraid. What are you going to do? Like, we had these types of, who do you think you are? Of course I can handle being with a guy like you. So then when we got married and I'm on the road six months out of the year,
Starting point is 00:11:51 we talked about it. So the way I married was selling all the bad up front. Then giving her the dream. She lives here. She's very happy. Her life, very happy. She chooses to go to work right next to me, very happy. This doesn't mean our marriage is guaranteed to work 10, 20 years from now.
Starting point is 00:12:08 Just telling you, we've been together 15 years, but this is how I sold it up front. versus the way typically men like to sell it only the dream and sometimes the mr nice guy concept we sell it the wrong way that's all i'm saying that's smart yeah because then you're telling them the bad shit up front if you know you're going to deliver on the back end guess what what are you worried about you don't do that much right what talk about the bad shit up front no i just show them because also when you want to smash i just say yeah you come hang out with me for a month you decide after that but i have i have two questions based off what you said let's hear the first thing is going back to talking about people kids working because you have a lot of young hustlers that
Starting point is 00:12:51 do those 80 hour weeks right i have friends that have been on wall street work for google amazon and they're completely fucking miserable but out of college you can make a quarter of a million dollars yeah so what do you say to those kids and when you see someone like that that's completely miserable six days out of their week right the majority of your year you're fucking miserable but they stick with it and they stay there but they're unhappy guess what that's the problem it's not for everybody okay so one day i'm at uh houston texas this couple marcello and gabby uh we're at capital grill i'm entertaining 50 people we're having dinner with a husband and wife walks in rodolpho and cessie and i stopped the room i go straight to them and i start talking to them
Starting point is 00:13:36 and they pull me aside and they say can i ask you a question the weirdest question but i love this question They said, why is it that whenever they walk into the room, you stop and go straight to them? Why do you do that? I said, because they're the number one people in the company that burn the right. I said, wait a minute. Do you want that kind of respect? We do. Let me get the straight.
Starting point is 00:13:57 You want to walk into a room and you want the room to stop for you? Yes. No problem. Do you know what kind of schedule they got? Do you know what they do? Do you know how many books he reads every month? Do you know, ta-da-da-da-da-da-da-da-da. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:10 Are you willing to do that? Are you willing to wait 10 years? Are you willing to do? Yes. Great. Go do it. Guess what? They went from then in the insurance business.
Starting point is 00:14:18 They're making 80 grand year. Okay. To this year at MGM Grand Arena, we had our annual convention two weeks ago. They're at 920 annual income selling insurance. They went from 80 to 920. See, that question is a sign that somebody wants to get that kind of respect when they walk into a room. Okay? you can go to a wedding you guys been to a lot of weddings you go to a wedding a lot of people
Starting point is 00:14:45 show up to a wedding and then that one person shows up to the wedding what happens everybody looks at the door right now you experience this a lot when you guys go places people oh my god they're here you're experiencing that right but then there's levels to it so if a guy doesn't want to work those kinds of hours and could care less about the 250 that's why sometimes those guys go and get a 65 000 your job just become an editor because they're happy. They go and become producers because they're happy. And there's nothing wrong with that. That job at Goldman, the job of driving with that kind of pressure isn't for everybody. Do you ever hit points though where you're, you let the pressure get to you? Like,
Starting point is 00:15:25 I mean, you're human too. So there's got to be points where you're like you get tired and exhausted and some everything's just going wrong. I know that happens to me too. Like how do you deal with that? Yeah. So I got also keep pushing forward. I got a book for you guys to read. I got two of them. But one of them, you got to read us. 38 letters John D. Rockefeller wrote his son. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 00:15:45 Good luck putting that book down. One of the chapters. By the way, I don't know if you guys know what John D. Rockefeller is. When he was 8, 10 years old, he says he's got two dreams in life. One is to be the richest man in the world. One is to live up to 100. He becomes a richest man in the world, and he dies at the age of 97. and a half in 1937 like do you know what the medical like hospitals advancement is in 1930s
Starting point is 00:16:10 the life expectancy for a person in 1937 38 was 50 years you live 97 years old that's kind of like today the average life expect 20 it's like 160 because the average life expectancy today is what 80 you live two times that what are we talking about yeah so this guy had a vision he writes one of the letters he says, he says, dear John to his son, today's one of the most terrible days of my life. Mr. Benson, my greatest rival, just died. If it wasn't for Mr. Benson, I wouldn't been driving to get to XYZ level. One day Mr. Benson called me the greatest predator he ever faced because he hated losing to criminals but he didn't have a problem losing to me because i at least did business the right way he writes a letter about his greatest rival dying to his
Starting point is 00:17:05 son he says in life you have to choose the right rivals especially the ones that get the best at you right he's explaining all this stuff uh letter number 33 or 34 he talks about blame he says too many people are in the blame game he says one day one day Vanderbilt oh no Andrew Carnegie comes up to him for advice he says say a question for you and a Carnegie was like God yeah in America at the time and Rockefeller was here until Rockefeller passed him up so imagine like Bill Gates Musk and then Musk becomes this right so Bill Gates comes to Musk for advice like that kind of a situation and says uh why do people like working for you everybody I talk to they like working for you do you feel like they're gonna
Starting point is 00:17:54 you're going to take over the world he says because we don't play the blame game he said what if somebody does get something wrong he says it doesn't matter everybody's job is to take full responsibility but if you screw up i'm not in the job i'm beating the beating you up blame all this a sudden i'm not going to be doing that by the way that's a challenge to all CEOs right and he goes through some chapters talking about how sometimes you're going to feel sorry for yourself because a couple a lot of the chapters he talks about as the richest man in the world he's trying to plead to his son every time the media wrote something bad about him he's telling his son in a way to not believe the hype not believe the negative articles in 1906 1901 he's writing a letter to his
Starting point is 00:18:33 son this other publication said this about me they said all i care about his money all i care about this is a man that was the richest man in the world that was still so upset by what media was saying about him that he was writing a letter to his son to say i'm doing the right thing they don't know something I'm going through. For as long as we're going to be humans and we're not going to have a chip in our house in our head that's going to get rid of the emotions, we're going to feel those things. But what does end up happening, Kyle, more, how much do negative comments bother you today in the podcast? Not as much as they used to. That's the point. You know, it's like, oh, my God, look at the podcast Pat did with, you know, Dan and look at the amount of hate he's getting and
Starting point is 00:19:13 da-da-da-da-da-death threats and all this other stuff. Great. This is my physician. Here's where I'm at. I'm comfortable with it, but I understand the messaging that's coming in, and you kind of watch it and say, so what are people saying? Got it. Okay, well, guess what? In life, and this kind of goes back to the question because this is kind of the topic I've been processing a lot lately, you have to be very careful trying to win over the mob.
Starting point is 00:19:38 Yeah, I agree. That's the hardest thing to do, Kyle. So let's you say this is your fan base, true fan base of Happy Dad, Nelk Boys, you know, this is you guys. that you guys do such a freaking awesome job here. My 10-year-old son is upset with me that we're doing a podcast today at 1 o'clock because he can't see you guys
Starting point is 00:19:58 because he's in school. He's upset because he wanted to see you guys because last time we were trying to do something. How was my 10-year-old a fan of you guys? You have this fan, okay? And age varies, right? I'm a fan. That's on the youngest side of us too.
Starting point is 00:20:11 I know. But what I'm saying to you is like, I'm a fan of you what you posted two days ago. I even told you that last time when I said, when you guys do that, I love it when you do it. They got 5, 6, 7 million views you posted. A simple 30-second clip lady gets pissed off.
Starting point is 00:20:23 Are you a he, she, all that stuff, right? So I'm also a fan. So you have a 10-year-old and a 45-year-old that's fan of you that wants to see you guys win, right? Okay. Now bring the mob. The difference with the fans sometimes, fans are not louder than the mob. The mob uses guilt.
Starting point is 00:20:39 The mob uses, you're an idiot. The mob uses, you're about to lose everything. The mob says, oust them. Stop buying hands. Happy that from them. Screw them. Da-da-da-da. And you're like, oh my God, what do we do with the mob?
Starting point is 00:20:52 Let's hire a PR from to help us with the mob. You ain't never going to win the mob over. So eventually when you're by yourself or collectively as a team, you sit there and make a decision and say, guys, I'm sorry, stop. Who are we trying to win over? Tell me, let's make a list. Boom, boom, boom. Great.
Starting point is 00:21:08 Who else? Boom, boom, boom. Great. Who would we like to win over? But if we don't, we're okay. This guy. All right, cool. 50-50.
Starting point is 00:21:15 Who do we not care to win over? These guys, I'm not worried about what they say. So whatever they want to say, let them say it. I'm not trying to win them over. I'm totally fine if they hate me. If they don't, I'm good with that. But this is my base. And here's what I'm going after.
Starting point is 00:21:31 Sometimes as an operator, as a content, create, as a talent, as a husband, as a CEO, as a leader, that part's going to be confused. But the more you can just pause and say, who is my community, who is our true audience? I'm not trying to please them up They're not going to be They're going to be around for a long time You're never going to make them happy Negativity also is always going to be more powerful
Starting point is 00:21:53 than positivity There's no question about it You're right That's a very powerful statement You're right And you know It's kind of like the whole thing that says You know a bad customer
Starting point is 00:22:03 An unhappy customer will tell 11 other people A happy customer will only tell three other people But that's the part with the mob Yeah I agree with that Yeah The other thing is kind of switching up going back to the relationship you said about how trying to manage you said you were a little crazy with the first girl and then you talked about commitment when do you decide like this is the one
Starting point is 00:22:25 i got to cut out all the other females and just be committed uh are you done playing are you are you are you on the school of thought of like for example Kardashian does she want to be elizabeth taylor married eight times Larry King married eight times where do you put the value in life of who you want to be of being a husband a father so if you privately sit there and say
Starting point is 00:22:54 when I die do I want to be known as a great husband maybe it's in the top 20 it's not my number one okay do I want to be known as a great father maybe it's a top five but not number one it's a number one okay so if it's a number one you have to approach life in a different way when i die do i want to be the guy that smashed the most and do i want to be that cool guy and like is that what i want to be with them like oh my god you've been with that yo shh that's crazy my grandfather's a playboy
Starting point is 00:23:25 and so on okay great or do i want to kind of like when when uh ronald regan went through his first divorce he was with uh jane wyman i believe the beautiful actress and you know um when he was with her and he got a divorce, one of his mentors gave him an advice. Very interesting advice. You know what the advice does? He says, look, you've played a Christian life your entire life and you've been a good boy. Guess what? You're probably going to get married in the next two to five years. This next six to 12 months, go runner, you know what? Go through him. Stack it up because you're never going to have this chance again. You know what Reagan did right after his divorce to his first marriage? He just ran. that that actress this actress this per da da da da and then he's like now you know what i don't want to do it
Starting point is 00:24:13 then settle down married nancy the rest of history so that that's the processing that you as an individual have to do privately and make a decision who you want to be but it's kind of like when you know you know right would you say from personal experience or no i think when you're done you're done well or no no no i disagree not yeah well it's going up the presidency but i what he's saying too is like you even look at clinton like in monica louinsky yeah like he's the president of the U.S. married supposed to display himself a certain way and he's still like dogging it up in the but that's Hillary Clinton too but he's right so okay everyone's going to dog on Hillary Clinton yeah that's that's probably true let me tell you if you if you how many people are married to
Starting point is 00:24:52 somebody that they're miserable and they're just trying to make the marriage work because the kids and they're waiting until the kid is 18 years old to get a divorce like you ever seen a movie couples retreat you ever seen couples retreat the movie John Favro the actor the guy that plays the part with the other girl and she goes to the singles island and he follows her to the singles island and then she's with the other you know miss not msio maxel what's the what's the guy and the thong guy what's his name there anyways the guy the yoga guy right yeah he's hanging out with her and then finally they're like look all we have to do is wait until she's 18 okay i don't want to do this anymore they're waiting until she's 18 to get a divorce when the guy that wrote the script for couples
Starting point is 00:25:32 retreat what do you think he did he probably took four couples that he knew in his life and he just wrote their story. Yeah. But how many people relate to that one? A lot of people. So that's the part where you don't want to be at. And a lot of times that happens when you're not talking about stuff that you don't like about what she or he is doing.
Starting point is 00:25:50 And you're just kind of like trying to just be a little bit too much of this. And that's also a problem. Because what is it if you're going to come home and you don't feel like having sex? Is that a good place to be? You come home and he's not clean. He's put on 40 pounds, 50 pounds, got a belly, didn't used to have a belly. You know, not taking care of himself or she doesn't take care of herself. There's smell, breath, all this others.
Starting point is 00:26:12 Like, this wasn't you before. Why are you not working on yourself anymore? So you're not who I married. You're 60 pounds heavier. You're not who I married. You used to smoke it. You smell bad. You're not who I married.
Starting point is 00:26:23 Your toes are no longer done up. You used to have nice toes. What happened to your toes? All of these things are things you have to talk about. But the way you set up to marriage, my opinion, if you don't set it up in a climate that you can openly talk about this stuff, you oh bro let me tell you in a major way in a major way then you're on house arrest and especially if you have kids and like oh if i get a divorce and then and then you have a divorce then she raises
Starting point is 00:26:48 the boys then her beliefs raises the kids now their reflection it's challenging so this is why the more fighting you do up front about all of this double down on the fights up front on things that matter because you're going to have plenty of things to fight about when you're married but double down on the fights up front on things that matter to you because then later on you came to be like
Starting point is 00:27:13 look we talked about it what are you doing and we talked about this two years ago that's exactly what I told you no you're right babe I'm sorry okay cool just we talked about this great even today like you know were you finding the girl
Starting point is 00:27:27 like if I was single today you go on a date with a girl you know how many times says she swipe right? How many DMs that she responded to? How do you check all of that stuff today? How do you go through all that stuff today? Fucking hard. That's the point, right? So the only way you can do it is in the following way. Say he's with his girl for three years. Okay. And his girl, she has a cousin, Mary. And he and his girl, when they're together, they talk about Mary. And his girl tells him, oh, no, let me tell you how Mary is. When Mary was young, she was this.
Starting point is 00:28:01 Do you know she went to a Christian school? Do you know she did this? Do you know what Mary does? Every time I tell her, marry this, Mary does? Oh, that's great. Guess what? Is she single? Yeah, but babe, she's so picky. Fantastic.
Starting point is 00:28:12 Hey, Mary, boom. So that's the best filtering of meeting a girl that way. If you're looking for a relationship, if you're looking for just playing them, let a rip. Finding girls through a mutual is always the best chance, I think, of success. Because there's multiple layers of filtering to learn what their background is right and a person who's connecting you knows both your background that's right your history but i also think when you meet a chick this is what stony
Starting point is 00:28:40 does he flexes right away like he brings all the weapons out right away like the restaurants most expensive hotel so you're also giving you're also like making an impression of like day one this is what it's like so so i think that's part of the strategy but it works in the short term yeah but then in the long term it's like oh well this is this more of like uh you know Well, I think that... I think you've got to make them work... That's in my head, but what I'll do is I'll do exactly what he said for the first month or two. Introduce that good life.
Starting point is 00:29:10 By that second month, hopefully they like me for me, and then you slow it down. And you can just hang out. That's catastrophic to start that way. That's bad, right? I like opposite. I'm like 0 for 10 doing it that way. I think it's more sauce when they know that you could do that, but you got to make them work for it a little bit, too. That's like, you know, that's kind of like your first five times you hook up with a girl that you want to be your girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:29:30 every time you're on Viagra every single time and you take everything oh my God this guy can go for two hours and two months later you're off of Viagra and says what is this all about well the first two months was sponsored by Viagra
Starting point is 00:29:44 now it's me naturally versus the other way around okay hey this is what's going on right now but we can always you know build on this right so you're taking the play implement Seattle in year two you're right into your pre-nup look i'm only going to do this much your three maybe by your five
Starting point is 00:30:04 will do this but not in the first year right to see what it's going to look like no but again if you're trying to have fun who cares yeah who cares it only matters if you're looking for a wife yeah if you're not looking for a wife do your thing for me i told you right before we got so i'd love to have 20 kids i'd have 30 kids if i could i'd love to have love to call and say hey we want to and make a dinner reservation tonight at 6 o'clock. How big is your party? Party of 24. What do you mean party at 24?
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yeah. It's me, my wife, my 20 kids, and the oldest are bringing their girlfriends. Sir, we don't have a table for 24. That's the phone call I want to make. But, you know, we started late. But I'd have 20 kids if I could. This what's dope about a pod with PBD.
Starting point is 00:30:47 We get to talk everything. Yeah. You get to talk chicks, and then we talk politics, we talk life. Yeah. Who else can we do that with? No one. Yeah, it's dope.
Starting point is 00:30:55 And great advice. Pat's dope with the girl talks. I know. Uh, I've matured a lot, so I haven't been doing that shit. Like, this last relationship I went through, yeah, showed me a lot. Uh, like, the girl I was dating, she then came to me and she was like, hey, just want to let you know, I'm going to start out Onlyfans.
Starting point is 00:31:11 And I said, yeah, this just isn't going to work for me. And so we just ended it. And it, like, it bothered me for a while because I was with her for probably a month or two before she decided to do that. Why? Why, what? Why to bother you? Because it just makes, it drives you crazy in a sense where it's like,
Starting point is 00:31:25 is this, why is she actually with me? Do you want her to be your wife? I didn't know. I didn't know. Do you want her to be your like main squeeze and the only squeeze? At one point, sure. Okay. Got it.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Because for me, if I'm with you, so I had a very basic rule. Here's what my rule was. No one knew who I dated. That was my girlfriend because that's a representation of me. If I walk in around in public with a girl next to me, that's a confirmation for, no. So girls would be with me. I would have a girlfriend for two years, never in public. And she said, when are you going to kiss me?
Starting point is 00:31:57 to kiss me in public i'm not doing that why not because that means you're my girl i'm not doing that i'm not there yet but we do everything together i totally get it but i'm not telling the public we're together if we're together it's a statement that i'm making and i'm not i'm not ready to do it yet so that's the part you know how both sides have to give something up like you know how she gave it up so early well you give it up so early why am i giving a public uh i'm not doing that so early Posting a picture early? No. When we can we post a picture together?
Starting point is 00:32:30 Minimum six months. I post on a picture with you for six months. Are you out of your mind for what? Why would I do that? No. So that is what can you, what can you hang on to that you don't give up? Like the whole you gave it up too early, she gave it up too early. The same as guys give it up too early.
Starting point is 00:32:49 I think that's the part where if I'm dating a girl and say, I'm your age. I'm not where I'm at right now. Married kids. And she tells me she's only fans and I've never publicly told him. Go for it. I don't care. But guess what? When you call me, text me, I'm not calling you back immediately. I call you at 10 o'clock at night when I'm done with my day. Don't expect me to respond back to you within five minutes. You're not that important. But the moment you show me respect six to 12 months publicly, hey, guess what? This is my girl because she showed me respect for this long. You don't want to show it? Let's just go to bedroom and have fun cool with that no problem hey what do you guys i'm going out of the town this
Starting point is 00:33:28 weekend who with some girl some girl some girl some girl not this girl no yeah and i think part of the problem too is that men have and that i probably had but when you like you were saying when you show up let's say you go to a dinner and you it's a group of guys you want that sense of like damn he's with her like she's hot yeah so you want to impress it's almost like a commodity where you want to impress everybody else and it makes a statement like whoa he's with that chick I think that that also can get into people's heads like do I actually in our industry women are kind of like a commodity for sure right I get that and and I'm fine with that but if I'm if I'm playing that brand oh my God look at those guys they have all these girls around they have all this they have all that yeah great but I'm not committing to any one of them I'm always showing pictures with me and four girls me and five girls not showing a picture with me one girl yeah no i'll show it it's always going to be plural not singular because singular is a statement two is a playboy statement a marketing statement one is a very serious commitment statement
Starting point is 00:34:40 that that's the part where you got to be careful so if you can do a picture with like eight girls around you sometimes you do your crazy skits you wake up in a morning two girls all the you know those funny stuff that you do yeah that's i love them when you do it they're funny as that's real life but they're funny as hell like you do them right that's great Right. Shits and giggles, whether it's funny or not, nobody takes either one of the girls seriously. Right. But if you posted a picture with just one, I'm taking it seriously. That's a good point.
Starting point is 00:35:03 Does that make sense? Yeah, exactly. So that's the part you've got to be kind of like, protect that. Yeah. And you tell them that. Hey, this is fun, awesome. I used to have a girlfriend and she had a sister. We had a great time together.
Starting point is 00:35:15 Nobody will ever know about it. That's my relationship. Yeah. We had a good time, but it's not a public relationship. It's a private relationship. Yeah. Nobody else's business. I'm not trying to, you know, make the statement of that, you know, this is my main girl.
Starting point is 00:35:30 No. Protect it. Have you ever read the book The Sun Also Rises? No. By Ernest Hemingway? No. Okay, that's a book for you. Okay, good.
Starting point is 00:35:37 I like the fact. Stein, you recommended a book. Yeah. What's it about? It's about a guy that chases this girl his whole life and she just keeps fading him, getting with guys in front of him. And then at the very end, she's finally like Ben ran through kind of beat up. and she comes to him and he denies her he denies her he denies her he didn't say sorry i was here the whole time
Starting point is 00:35:58 waiting for you and now it's too late i love that story yeah stony started reading bucks good for you dude hemingways goaded yeah but it's also cool because that literature is so old so this has been happening forever oh forever yeah but that's the part of whooped part like men you ever seen the movie original sin i haven't with uh angelina joly and antonio banderas right holy shit you got to watch this movie because it's that story yeah but the guy still says yes. That's how it ends? It ends with him still saying yes.
Starting point is 00:36:30 Because he was so whipped. Like that is the full on, whooped, whooped, who, does it end happily or is it like a letdown? Like, dude, what do you do? No, it ends with like,
Starting point is 00:36:40 what are you doing? Leave her already. That's how it ends. But Angelina Jolie in Original Sin. Yeah, see, that's peak. I might get into that. It's kind of like when Demi Moore in
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Starting point is 00:40:03 didn't really like enjoy that whole life. So see, that's the, that's the thought pattern of a short-term thinking single man. Okay. Because if you talk about the Medici family or the Rockefeller family or some of those families that created generational wealth and power and influence they don't think that way they think in a very different way so uh uh four weeks ago three weeks ago i'm in new york with goldman but eight weeks ago i'm in st regis chicago they're doing an event called the family founders forum okay and this is about there's only 60 families invited minimum network to be invited as a billion dollars we were the poorest family in that room okay then you're a billion no i'm not a billion no so they allowed us to come in because our
Starting point is 00:40:48 growth right now is grown exponentially so they know 12, 18 months will be there. So they gave us invitation. So I'm in the room. And the owner of Chicago Bulls, Reinsdorf, is right there. Father gave him the Chicago Bulls. The Chicago Cubs, son is sitting there. The Chicago Blackhawks.
Starting point is 00:41:09 The Crown family, they own 10% of general dynamics. You know, Boeing, General Dynamics. They own 10% of general dynamics. Like, the Crown family is like a $15, $20 billion dollar family. And I'm sitting there like, $15, $20 billion, man. I bet all the kids and grandkids are rich. Now watch this. He's on stage.
Starting point is 00:41:27 His name is Keating Crown. And he says, I'm the oldest G4. I'm like, what's a G4? So G1 is the person that created the money, created the wealth. Then they give the money to their kids. Their kids are G2s. Then the kids give their money to grandkids, their G3s. You get the idea, right?
Starting point is 00:41:50 Yeah. So in the Crown family, He's a G4. He's in his mid to late 50s. He says, I'm the oldest G4. The Crown family has 47 G4s. Wow. Did you see what happened right there? Yeah. His daughter is the oldest G5 of 150 G5s. She's 12 years old. So I'm like, holy so okay, let's do the math. So 150 G5s, 47 G4s. That's already 200. How big is the entire family? Let's say $250, $250.50, $15 billion. You give 15 people split the $15 billion on $15 is what, a billion.
Starting point is 00:42:34 You split it amongst $150, it's $100 million. What are you going to even and give everybody the money? No. So then that's when they create the criteria of who gets to come in, who doesn't, who is somebody that's going to manage a business, who's going to own some of the business. These are the decisions that these families are already making, right, on how to be, you know, sometimes a G3 becomes a G1. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:56 Because they take the money from their family and they start a new business and they sell that for $1.2 billion. So now they're both a G3 and a G1, right? So when you're saying the guy that Bill Perkins, $50,000, $25 million or failure if you don't spend the whole money and all that stuff, I totally get that concept.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Dana White was on a podcast with Cardone. And Dana says to Grant, he says, yeah, you know when you talk about the guys that they buy this car, you're talking about me. He says, you're talking about me. And let me tell you something. That's the life I want to live. I want to have my fun, make the money, all this other stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:26 That's one argument that you've got to make. But there's a reason why money doesn't make it to Generation 2 and 3. And Vanderbilt at one point was a richest man in the world. Imagine being you're the richest man in the world. You know how much of the money went to G2G3? By G3 was gone. You go from being worth roughly $200 billion. By G3, it's gone.
Starting point is 00:43:48 Because there was no values built on how to keep that wealth in the future. family in this book one of the things he talks about he says sometimes in life all we talk about is generational wealth he says too few people talk about generational ambition generational discipline generational focus generational vision generational values and principles all we talk about is what generational wealth yeah what you can give the money but this is what keeps it so that's the part where it's the balance of look I'm not living in a small house yeah okay so it's not like I took the money and I'm living in a, our family can probably live in a 5,000 square foot house.
Starting point is 00:44:25 Why do I need a house like this? Okay. We don't need a boat. We don't need jet skis. We don't need to. Why am I doing this? Right. So there's the balance of a little bit of the boat, a little bit of both.
Starting point is 00:44:36 But at the same time, if you got a vision long term with your family, you have to think differently. You don't think there's any negative. Let's just say, for instance, we'll just say what your oldest son gets left $100 million. There's no party that's like, uh, maybe he's just going to be lazy. He's not going to put anything into this. He's got all the money he needs. do you put your living trust in place you dictate the living trust you control the
Starting point is 00:44:55 knob everything in a living trust dictates what he gets and what he doesn't get based on his behavior your lawyers who manage your trust and the executor that manages the trust has to follow the bylaws of the living trust kids can't screw around with your money if you have it cleared up on how they're going to get the money in the living trust you can specifically if you don't do this you don't do this you don't do this you don't do this you don't get this and if you do this you only get this much but if you do this you get this much but if you do you see everything is in a living trust so you get
Starting point is 00:45:25 to when you make money you get to hire the right lawyers to set the whole thing up for you the whole thing up for you so you know you don't later on look back and say oh my god look at my kids are so freaking spoiled and all this other stuff it's already going to happen with couple of your kids like if you have
Starting point is 00:45:40 four kids for me to assume that every one of my kids are going to be disciplined and they're going to be net positive to society I'm delusional right but what you can control is how you write the bylaws in your living trust. So what part of you, because Mick Jagger, the lead singer of the Stones? Yep.
Starting point is 00:45:57 He made a statement, I'm not leaving my kids anything. Yep. And it just makes you think, like, with what you had to go through to get to where you are, is there any part of you that's like, wow, I want my kid to have to struggle and not have this head start and just be...
Starting point is 00:46:09 I don't agree with that mindset. You know why? Okay, let me ask you, who built this island? I don't know. I don't know. This community's been here for how long? 60 years? Who's lived here?
Starting point is 00:46:20 Wright Croc, Paul Costellano, you know, Dave Thomas. God knows how many people have lived on this island. Messi lives here right now. Luis Suarez lives here right now. Rinaldo is looking at homes right now. Namar looked at homes here right now. But who built this place before us? Do we deserve to move into a community that's already established and fixed?
Starting point is 00:46:41 Maybe after everybody here dies, they should demolish this place and we should rebuild it all up again. That doesn't make any sense. All the freeways that we drive in. Who built it? We did? or the people that were taxpayers before us help build these roads on the freeway that we can go 95 South of Miami and come back up
Starting point is 00:46:55 well we don't deserve it we should tear it down and rebuild it back up that that doesn't make any sense if America is a family and it's passing generational resources to us what are those generational resources a better military better road better infrastructure better ports
Starting point is 00:47:12 we have you know long beach port we have a port in Jacksonville we have ports in Texas These are ports that they build That we get to take advantage of to have things coming in Should we destroy all of them Because of previous taxpayers paid for that? No.
Starting point is 00:47:26 So how does that not apply to our families And the way we should handle our money? I don't understand that concept When people say, I'm not going to give my kids any money That doesn't make any sense to me. Well, the way you said it with the Living Trust is a bit different. I've never heard of that before. You control it.
Starting point is 00:47:39 So if there's strict regulations on giving the money to your kids, That's a lot different than just handing the money And they can just fuck off and do whatever they want, right? Off camera. I'll let you say, if you wanted to talk to one of these guys, they'll tell you exactly how they set it up. Yeah. They'll tell you exactly how they set it up, how you set up a slat, how you set up a dynastic
Starting point is 00:47:59 trust, how you set these things up where the billionaire families who have come way before us that figured out a way to put it together where kids can't abuse it, and we should learn from that. That's available to it. That's accessible to us. And if you have money, you can hire those guys. I want to talk about switching it up, but what you posted the other day on your Instagram about the whole RFK thing, Trump, and the Secret Service.
Starting point is 00:48:23 Crazy, right? I saw that on your page and I was like, that's crazy. That's crazy. Wait, what was the post just so. What I saw is that basically, I mean, RFK was looking at, you know, joining forces with both parties. I feel like he probably wanted to work with Trump no matter what. I feel like he was just saying that maybe, but the White House denied him secret service,
Starting point is 00:48:42 which is crazy. Crazy. So basically he's kind of forced to like roll with. Trump just out of his own safety now? You sit there and you're like, the reason why politics is so interesting to me, it's purely strategy. For sure.
Starting point is 00:48:55 Like, by the way, even podcasting is strategy. You guys are very strategic. You guys are not just like a fun brand. Behind closed doors. You're very strategic. And I watch like the strategy of how you guys do stuff. And who you align yourself with, who you get favors from,
Starting point is 00:49:11 who likes you, what market you're going after, you know, branding of the drink. It's brilliant what you guys are doing, right? It's not just like, hey, we're just going out to having fun. This is all we are. There's strategy behind it, right? Trump gets assassination attempt as July 13th.
Starting point is 00:49:27 Two days later, White House assigned secret service to RFK because Trump asked for it. Two days later, he gets it. Wow. Okay. RFK, two weeks ago, Kamala Harris, their administration, sends out an article to media saying RFK came to us for a job he wanted to be part of our administration but Kamala Harrison them said no we're not interested now do you really think that was the case or do you really think they knew that he was going to join the Trump camp and he gave
Starting point is 00:50:04 them the middle finger that I'm not going to do this and then they said let's get ahead of and let's tell him that we know he's going to go to Trump that we said no so we can look better in the marketplace right like the whole concept of I broke up with him first I broke up with her first that whole back and forth that people have okay so then rfk goes to glendale arizona endorses trump does the greatest walk-up which was insane that was the energy was that was epic that was epic right and he hits the stage and then two days later white house says rfk we're no longer offering your secret service so now the 10 battleground states that are RFK is no longer on the ballots.
Starting point is 00:50:47 He pulled out. He's still on the 40 out of 50. But on the 10, he doesn't want to compete directly with Trump. Now the Secret Service cutting him out, they're saying the safest place RFK can be. To get Secret Service protection is when he's right next to Trump. What does that mean? That means every city Trump goes to campaign the next 70 whatever days. RFK is going to be there.
Starting point is 00:51:11 Are you kids? So now I'm going to an event that Trump's speaking and RFK is also going to be speaking for a few minutes. what are we talking about to me that's crazy that's crazy the 2024 election the number one draft pick you know you said you like NFL right you said you like football uh you know how there's uh and not the draft but free agency oh my god did you see where he went did you see where he went so rfk was a free agent that everybody wants to sign it's a very important free agency do you think the democrats wanted to sign him though doesn't seem like it right i think they they need i feel like if they wanted to sign them they would have they desperately needed them though they needed them but i feel like
Starting point is 00:51:50 they didn't want to but that's part of strategy and that's that's the market on november 5th is going to say whether it was a good move or a bad move i think it was a bad move i think it's a horrible obviously but i think it's a horrible move so i think you trump picks him up so trump picks him up then picks up talsy and then today which is maybe even more powerful than the other two Zuckerberg yesterday writes a letter apologizing that he was for by the Biden administration to not report the stories on the Biden laptop and censor some of the stories. He said we were forced by the government and we had the choice to do it or not to do so. We made the mistake of censoring. That's our fault. What? That's fucking crazy. That is insane
Starting point is 00:52:35 to me. This is Trump's best week of his election. So far, this is like you just won by six touchdowns. They squash the DNC. shit like RFK the next day was just like yeah so so now this is the part where you know you have to look at what Trump's next moves are going to be my prediction is the Rogan trump podcast will happen somewhere between October 25th to November 3rd you think so I think that's you're good with predictions right I mean it's a 50 50 but I think I think I think Rogan has to do it at this point you think he has one like why doesn't he because I think it looks like he always talks about how he wants to play neutral yeah but yeah but again
Starting point is 00:53:16 what let me tell you two people did it that now he's safe to do it yeah musk had him on first and then peter thiel came and talked to rogan peter theo is not necessarily a hundred percent trump guy peter thiel is a j d vans guy you guys talked to jd vans so now peter thiel talk talks to rogan now rogan endorses rfk rfk endorses trump rogan likes talsy talsy endorses trump musk endorses trump the path is open for him if he does it it he's not the first one to do it so the pressure's off you think that'll be the biggest podcast of all time rogan's on a lot of big ones i think rogan must will probably still be rogan's on a lot of big ones but i but i think trump needs to be inner i still don't think trump's
Starting point is 00:54:00 been interviewed properly i still don't think trump's trying to get him on yours huh huh trying to get him on pbd no i think rogan will do a different kind of a podcast that no one's done do you think any part of like trump strategy should be just maybe lay low and stay quiet for a little bit well you see stuff on the Democratic Party kind of going crazy like when he's not as active and as we all know Trump can't control himself
Starting point is 00:54:23 in certain situations with what he says like maybe just stays quiet a little bit and just let you say we're in the room right now okay and Trump's sitting at the head and we're the strategy team okay Steinie it's pretty powerful to be in a room I would love to be I don't think I'll be invited for that but yeah let's just say we are
Starting point is 00:54:39 and you got all the other strategy people in the room as well 20 people they say okay Pat what's your move here's a marker take the lead go to the board you know what i'm doing um going down to battleground cities the states i'm getting uh my data guy to pull up the 10 most influential people in those states then i'm going to the influential people with women i'm looking at stories of abortion i'm looking at stories of you know suburban women who support trump who have a big voice
Starting point is 00:55:15 I'm going to the head of soccer moms. I'm going to those stuff. And I'm making a list of a couple hundred names. And I'm saying, who can go after this one? I can make the call. I got, perfect. Who knows this one? I got these three.
Starting point is 00:55:28 I'll make the call on this one. Who got this one? Who got this one? I got this one. Let's roll. Because now, the way you do it now, it's got to be like, bam, bam, bam, bam, bam. Every week he's got to hit them.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Every week he's got to hit them like this until they're suffocating. until they're suffocating and then they're saying you'll take this one we'll compete in 2028 and we'll make your life a living hell between 24 to 2028 because they're going to do that but watch what we're going to do in 2028 that's what he has to do he has to right now just keep like you're not him hitting not saying him hitting I'm not saying he's people I'm saying weak Tulsi RFK got it boom suck by the way like you know what the next big pick is here's the next big pick for me. Here's what I'd be doing. I'd go have a conversation with Zuck one on one face to
Starting point is 00:56:19 face. No camera phones. Everything's outside. Hey, check me. I have no wires. You ready? Let's sit down. Zuck. Telegram CEO just got arrested in Europe. Really? This guy's got a what for? I didn't see that. I saw that. Because of the fact that he allows hatred, whatever comments to be made. He just got arrested in Europe two days ago. I didn't see that. Oh, it's craziness. So just because why? I thought it was because there was also like exchanges going on.
Starting point is 00:56:49 They were talking about maybe drug deals, stuff like that. Yeah, but guess what? There's pedophilia going on on Facebook. What are you doing? Sure. There's stuff going on on WhatsApp, but you're not saying anything to my WhatsApp or signal. Why are you not doing that? So watch this.
Starting point is 00:57:02 To me, he writes the letter. Everybody's like, what's he doing? I put out a tweet saying, he's either being honorable. He's either sick of the Dems or number three. he's getting ahead of whistleblower. Somebody's going to come out as a whistleblower and throw him under the bus. Guess what?
Starting point is 00:57:16 Who gives a shit if a whistleblower is going to come out? In terms of Facebook? Well, everyone already knew that was going on. Exactly. So I don't think it's three. A lot of people know, it's really number three or, you know, number four, he's seeing what's going out with Musk
Starting point is 00:57:27 and he wants to be on the good graces of Trump and all this other stuff, maybe. But number one, I'm going to say something publicly in defense of Pavel, the founder of Telegram. Why? Because the direct competitor of Telegram
Starting point is 00:57:42 is WhatsApp who owns WhatsApp meta who owns meta he does why would you publicly defend him because you know everybody thinks you're part of the establishment zuck has zero friends right now he just called out the entire democratic party trust me no one on the left like zuck right now he is hated watch what they're going to do to zuck you're going to see accusations with a girl and he did this and rape allegations you're going to see how zuck's going to be attacked the next 70 days they're going to destroy his credibility next 70 days, right? Why do you think he did come out and make that statement? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:58:15 I don't know what he's going through. He seems like, to me, seems like the type of guy that, and I always think this sometimes too, I think sometimes people automatically assume someone's evil. Like, let's say Zuck. You're right. Like people are like, yo, he's evil. He's fucking censoring. But I also think, like, let's say the left approaches him and says, like, yo, you better
Starting point is 00:58:33 censor this shit. Like, I feel like some people are in powerful positions and they get forced to kind of do shit that they don't want to do. I'm where you are. I'm just surprised you are. I'm not saying Zuck's an angel, too, but I think, I don't know. Like, it is possible that he could have just got pressured. And it's like, dude, I don't want to fuck with these people.
Starting point is 00:58:49 Like, I'm just going to play by the rules. I'm happy with my, you know, my life. And I don't want to fear for my life. I'd be fucking scared if I was in that position. Of course. Also, what you're saying, too, when you make a statement like that, there's a lot of other stuff behind scenes that went down that we don't even know about. That's right.
Starting point is 00:59:04 So guess what? Who is, who's his friend today? Everybody on the right says, oh, he's coming out because all he's, cares about his money said and everybody on the left is not saying screw him what do you mean there was no Russian disinformation he said that in the letter and it was the most viral topic of the day so here's what zucks got to do come out defend the telegram CEO okay and let him know you don't support that number two announce that you want to do a Facebook live with Kamala Harris and Trump Kamala's not going to do it let Trump come on Facebook you interview him I think the next big
Starting point is 00:59:39 interviewer, Zuck interviewing Trump. Trump will push him. Zuck will say that was the most badass thing I ever saw. That'll get a billion views on Facebook. And it'll be talked about all over media. I think the Trump camp next has to do an interview with Zuck, but I think Zuck has to initiate it. Trump doesn't have to initiate it.
Starting point is 00:59:57 I think Zuck's got to make that move. If he doesn't, he has to realize that Facebook going up against Twitter right now with Musk doing what he's doing, my prediction by the end of 2028, if Trump is the president, I think Twitter is going to be worth a half a trillion dollars because the level of momentum Elon Musk is going to have on positioning himself where he's at
Starting point is 01:00:18 with Trump being on his side it's going to be insanity and Facebook wants to play this game you have to take a stand and say I'm not for this so guess what? He says yes to Kamala and Trump Kamala says no he says but I invited both people so what why are you upset at me if he does it that way so if Trump's
Starting point is 01:00:33 camp gets Zuck oh sweet I think Zuck's loaded too, but he obviously sees Elon and how like cool Elon is and, you know, everyone likes Elon. He probably gets a bit like, fuck, I wish I could be that guy too, a little bit. Like he's probably like, you know what? I want to join. I want to join. I want to join. He's popping out now more. He's popping UFC ringsies. He's fighting UFC fighters. No, I know, but he's trying to be cooler the last like two years, I think. He's a bit of a pigeon. He was. But now he's like getting
Starting point is 01:01:03 doper. I agree. And I think the American flag ski, you know, water, what was he doing? Surfing with like the, you know, Yeah, he's trying to be more of a bro. Yeah, and by the way, he's probably a great guy. He can fight. He can fight. He's a jiu-jitsu guy. He trained.
Starting point is 01:01:15 So there's a lot of good with him. But I think the people that are going to get him is Peter Thiel and Larry Ellison. Why are these guys siding with Trump? I think those are the guys that can give him the feedback in the council, but you forget, he's only 40 years old and he's worth $185 billion. Realistically, if you put it mathematically, he's the richest man in the world. I know they'll say Musk, but Musk is 14 years older than Zuck. What do you think Zuck will be aged by age at 54?
Starting point is 01:01:46 Zuck is not a lightweight to just kind of be like, you know, Zuck is $185 billion net worth. Yeah. Okay. So I think that part, Peter Thiel went on Rogan podcast, and Peter Thiel was the first investment to Facebook. Peter gave Zuck half a million dollars for 10.4% of Facebook. Wow.
Starting point is 01:02:08 Was that before PayPal? This is an 04. This is before Facebook was anybody. PayPal gave, he had made the money already. Peter Thiel gave him a half a million bucks. They asked Peter Thiel, what's the biggest mistake you ever made in your career? He says the second chance they had to give Facebook money, I didn't. Boys, really quick, I want to let you guys know about my favorite healthy snack or jerky.
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Starting point is 01:03:50 to do this and then eventually we made the mistake of siding with them and we did and then at the end the last paragraph he says but one commitment i'm going to make i'm not going to give the same type of support i gave in 2020 now he got a lot of criticism for that because Same means you can be 5% less. You can be a million less. You can, it's a gray area answer, right? Versus saying, I will be giving nothing. So he point blank admitted that he favored the left.
Starting point is 01:04:17 Kyle, there's zero gray area. That's crazy. That is like Comey level when Comey said in 2016, the last week of the election that Hillary Clinton emails, she was like guilty for it. And then Hillary lost last second. This is a very big thing that happened this week for Trump. So now it's just, and by the way, whatever the camp is doing, you know, you got to give him credit because they were getting some, he two weeks ago, they're doing a lot of good stuff right now.
Starting point is 01:04:42 Do you think there was also, they were probably pushing any negative, anything negative about Trump on meta while doing the same thing with hiding the stuff about Hunter Biden? Oh, the Dems right now are in a very problematic place. Do you think more stuff's going to continue to come out or do you think this is Xux one statement and that's it? Well, I think just RFK is just like the, the DNC was like kind of tough to watch and it's like, fuck what's going to happen and then that next day RFK then Tulsi then the meta thing it's just crazy also if you think about it have you guys seen the the message of everybody saying the same thing
Starting point is 01:05:16 rumors has it that Beyonce's going to be at the DNC and it's apparently confirmed apparently they have arrived apparently Beyonce just arrived rumor has it Beyonce's going to be performing at least 70 80 different media platforms said Beyonce's going to be there she never showed up Why do you think? Do you think she was supposed to show up? Well, that's the question, right? You know Beyonce's going to vote for them anyways. I mean, it's not like she's not going to vote for them.
Starting point is 01:05:42 But one, if you're Jay-Z and Beyonce is being told that she's going to be at DNC and Beyonce is sitting next to you in the house, what would you be saying? Would you be like 40 laws of power? Yeah, I know what they're doing. Let them do it because more people will watch Kamala's speech. Even though you're not going to be there, don't say anything, babe. Great. Yeah, let's play that card.
Starting point is 01:06:06 Kamala Harris' speech got 28.5 million views, 500,000 more than what Trump got. Was that Kamala? Was that because they were waiting for Beyonce? Was that because since we got no primary with Kamala and would you think Kamala debate any other Democrats? Maybe this was a form of a primary for us to kind of see what she was all about?
Starting point is 01:06:24 How many of that 28.5 were Republicans watching it to see what she was going to be talking about? Probably a lot. That's the part, right? So I think they're in a lot of trouble right now. I just think Trump's campaign's got to go. You've got to suffocate the competition right now. I think there was a lot more celebrities coming out for Hillary Clinton.
Starting point is 01:06:48 Than Kamala? Sorry, for Biden in 2020, then Kamala. Like, I know some celebrities have come out, like Steph Curry, but like, where's the Kim Kardashian? Like, those types of people haven't said anything, right? to realize Beyonce and Jay-Z. Like Kim, she endorsed Biden publicly, didn't she? Yeah. Why is she not endorsing the first potential woman president?
Starting point is 01:07:09 Maybe they're keeping it to the last 30 days. You know, yesterday Kevin McCarthy and I are speaking, and he's the, you know, former Speaker of the House. And he says, one thing about election cycle right now, the next 70 days are the equivalent of 10 years. And every day news cycle is gone. Forget about it. Gone.
Starting point is 01:07:28 Guys, do you know how many days ago was the assassination attempt? Three weeks, right? Six weeks ago. Six weeks? It's as if, yeah, you know, next. Dude, the guy almost got killed, and everybody's moved on. Think about how you find a way to lengthen the life cycle of a story. You know, when you're a startup entrepreneur and you're only dealing with a million dollars,
Starting point is 01:07:53 you have to act like you have $10 million, and you have to stretch the million as if it's $10 million, right? Because you're going to run out of money. some of these guys have to stretch this new cycle of the assassination but the assassination attempt is gone so now it's the next story and the next story and the next story so who knows maybe they got Kardashian lined up next month maybe they got Taylor Swift lined up end of October they're going to have a lot of surprises
Starting point is 01:08:14 this is the game of politics man it's all manipulation deception and surprises I don't think T Swift can come out publicly with her all NFL shit though oh that's good point I think she thinks like oh I'm going to get booed every NFL game even like more did you hear what's a good point Patrick Mahomes the wife she probably loves that NFL shit you guys had my homes on or no I saw she no she liked a something one of Trump's posts you guys sure knew to have Mahomes on and for sure you can get Mahomes 100% I guarantee I don't think he's gonna want to talk about that though but that's what I'm that's what it was right she liked one at Trump's posts but I think she doesn't
Starting point is 01:08:51 give a shit yeah so you have both of them on husband and wife you bring both of them on and he's going to play Jackson too yeah he's been DMing Jackson for like four years yeah but I think you bring both of them off and this is a podcast for them to be on why not
Starting point is 01:09:08 but I think you know look when we were at the UFC fight you know who was coming and just hugging and taking pictures with Trump everybody and anybody Joe Burrow you know who's the big guy from San Francisco the linebacker the monster what's his name
Starting point is 01:09:22 Bosa oh the guys are for by the way when you look at him you're like are those traps like what the hell is that right there right the guys like this is a fucking tank yeah it's a tank so you watch these guys that are coming and they were just straight up going like i cannot believe trump is here right i mean listen joe borough's pictures public everybody saw that these guys's pictures was public so you know i think mahomes's wife taking that position and Mahomes Kelsey Kelsey Taylor ah you know so that the Taylor coming out and they just put a party together for Ryan Gosling and Blake lively but Blake
Starting point is 01:09:59 lively just made a comment that she got some heat and I don't know if Ryan Gosling and them are fully on the left you know I think they're center left I don't think they're left left like crazy left because Ryan's an entrepreneur he's a business guy freaking phenomenal what he's doing but yeah I think again this is all massaging and relationships and how you somebody that's a good ambassador type plays this behind closed doors
Starting point is 01:10:25 that's the part I'd be doing if I'm part of Trump's camp but they're doing the right thing right now they had their best week of their campaign hands down yeah they're hyping up Beyonce too wouldn't the best we got was fucking little John right fucking little John well I mean look you have to realize
Starting point is 01:10:43 this election independence are going to run the 2024 election not that not Democrats are MAGA. Maga's not going anywhere. And Democrats are not going anywhere. It's the middle 20. And that's why RFK is such a big deal. Tulsi is a big deal. Musk is a big deal. Peter Thiel is a big deal. This is what matters right now. Okay. So if you're able to get these guys, which they're doing the right thing, I don't think Dems are getting them. Yeah. But again, there's a part of me that's like, I think, you know, of trying to, you know, if Trump and them go the way they're going with their momentum, this could be like an embarrassing victory.
Starting point is 01:11:23 As of the last week, it's starting to look like that, right? But like you said, who knows what happens tomorrow, the day after? Yeah. But as of now, it's looking really good. Yeah, I mean, look. Especially if, yeah, RFK too, I didn't really realize. Like, he has such a different message than Trump too. So I feel like, yeah, what he's doing for Trump is crazy.
Starting point is 01:11:42 Like him exposing the whole the food industry. And do you know much about what he says about how? 70% of the FDA is funded by the pharmaceutical industry yeah I mean did you watch the Tucker podcast he just did he was on top of two days ago okay I'm gonna watch it mean you know his whole thing right now if you go to his Instagram profile right now I think he changed it to make America healthy again so his his slogan is maha not maggots maha some like a Hawaiian slogan right make America healthy again um but think about how many people in america who are independent who want to know what happened with JFK assassination. And Trump says he's going to put him to go investigate
Starting point is 01:12:23 all the different assassination attempts. What? The nephew of John F. Kennedy, RFK Jr., whose uncle and father were assassinated, that caused him to go 14 years being a drug addict because he didn't think his life was worth living? I mean, think about your two heroes, your dad and your uncle one is a president one is about to be a president they kill both of them what would you do how would you be i don't know man i think he goes that side how many people in america want to find out what happened with the vaccine how many people in america want to get to the bottom of seeing what happened with china with wuhan lab how many people in america want to find out what happened with the assassination attempts how many people in america want to know who killed john
Starting point is 01:13:07 of kennedy how many people how many people want to know this left right center now trump is saying that's what he's going to do. I mean, so a part is like, well, is he going to be the director of CIA? Probably not. Is it going to be the attorney general? Who knows? Like his father? Is he going to be the guy that's going to be running the Department of Health? And if he goes that route, because NIH reports, I think CDC or NIH reports to that. I mean, he's so versatile because as an environmental lawyer, you have so many places you can put Bobby. Where do you think he ends up? I think it's health. Because if he's saying Maha, that's what it is. How about Tulsi? Does she get a cabinet position?
Starting point is 01:13:44 She could. And Tulsi could get a cabinet position. And Tulsi is not liked by the other side. You know, Tulsi was supposed to speak at our event at MGM Grand. That's the day when the quiet skies happened, that they put her on the terrorist list or terrorist watches. She's like, you won't even believe what they're doing to me. I'm like, you've got to be kidding me.
Starting point is 01:13:59 No. I said, man, you know, do your thing. Totally get it. craziness. But, yeah, this deception game, you have to be, you have to be ready with. You know, it's crazy. So this is the first thing that I'll tell you that I've never done this. This is my first ever fiction book I've written.
Starting point is 01:14:19 Really? Fiction book called The Academy. That painting right there, if you look at the painting, you'll see eight characters. It's myself in the middle with Ayrton Senna, Formula One race car driver, whom I named my daughter after him. Tupac is to my right. Then you got the Shah of Iran, Milton Friedman, MLK, Abraham Lincoln, John F. Kennedy, and Einstein. in a bank vault all speaking debating two books that's on the table which the two books on the table are
Starting point is 01:14:49 Atlas Shrug and Communist Manifesto okay and they're very opposite books on what they're debating but the whole premise of that painting when I did it seven years ago is you know what if there was a society that can develop the next layer of leaders that understand the game of deception power manipulation you know division all these things that happen and what if they were was a society that brought these types of leaders of. Obviously, this is a fiction book. And in this book, it's a character that gets recruited to the secret society
Starting point is 01:15:20 that's been around for a couple thousand years. And you go to the bottom of this, you know, organization, the academy, where you have access to people. Imagine you can have a three-hour conversation with Hitler and asking, hey, today, if you wanted to take over the world, how would you do it? And based on the technology that they have,
Starting point is 01:15:36 he'll tell you exactly how to do it. How valuable is that to you? Imagine you can have a conversation with Marilyn Monroe, Like literally sitting there doing a podcast with Marilyn Monroe. What if you can have a conversation with putting up a Karl Marx and a, you know, Ian Rand and having them debate. How cool would that debate be? This institution has that technology.
Starting point is 01:15:55 And the book is filled with a ton of stories, conflicts, you know, how they're challenging and debating these types of topics. But it's about shaping the mindset of younger people to be ready. If you're going to be a future leader here, here's the power plays they're going to use against you. What do you do with that? So anyways, this book is coming out. in third week of September. The Academy, you can find it on Simon & Shoest or Amazon.com.
Starting point is 01:16:18 The Academy, first fiction book. People are going to read the book. They're going to think I'm crazy. They're going to say, how the hell do you write a fiction? I've been working on this thing for 13 and a half years. I told my guys, I will launch this book after my earnout is done with the insurance company. My earn out ended three weeks ago. And I said, we're launching this book.
Starting point is 01:16:36 Wow, that's exciting. Yeah, I'm excited about it. It's kind of weird because it's a business book. I'm comfortable talking business. this is creative the market's gonna read it and say what what go this pat do shrooms and smoke weed late night and start writing because some of the stuff in the book you're gonna say this guy's lost his mind but excited to see how the market reacts to the book yeah that's sick with uh all your success in this book coming out do you have anything do you ever talk about or do you have anything in your
Starting point is 01:17:01 previous years that you do regret sure i mean it's it's a list of them but to me it's and this message has been very consistent the more I think about it is trying to force people to do things they don't want to do especially with friendships man like you know how you talk about that guy yeah he makes quarter million but he's miserable yeah that was like trying why don't you want to live this life why don't you want to go after your dreams sometimes you just don't want to do it versus what do you want to do and let me let's see what we can do with this right we we try sometimes
Starting point is 01:17:38 to force people to do things they don't want to do and making those mistakes early on and I made that mistake a lot early on in my 20s even in my early 30s that probably helped me know that that's not going to work with your kids you can't do that with your kids because your kids ain't going to do what you want to drive them to do you're going to push them away I learned that very early probably one of the most powerful phrases that I realized 90% of my headaches of my life came from this. The fastest way to create an enemy is to try to force them to change.
Starting point is 01:18:14 Fastest way. You want to make an enemy? Force somebody to change. Because what you're telling them is you're not good enough. Versus having the conversation with them and let them tell you who they want to be and then ask them what do you think you need to do to have this life become a reality, but they're saying it. Versus no, here's what you've got to do.
Starting point is 01:18:34 There's always got to be the choice of what the individual has to do. So style of communication, delivery of message, that was a lot of work on learning how to give the message in a more subtle way where the person has to choose what they wanna do. Yeah, how many people have you had come to you that ask for advice, you take your time with them
Starting point is 01:18:53 and then they just don't do anything with it? 90%. Does that ever bother you? No, not at all. Why do you think that is? If a guy like you who's as successful as you are, someone has a chance to get advice from you and they just hear what you say.
Starting point is 01:19:05 People only wake up. People only wake up when they wake up themselves yeah i mean you know a part of this is is right so the part with life is you know when i was younger my fear was when i went to the army my dad's going to die he's not going to meet my kids because i never met his dad so i'm like dad i want to make sure my kids meet him right so that was my fear so when i got out of the army and i'm sitting and i'm like okay in life you either change intentionally or you change by four by crisis happening in your life you're okay most of the time we changed because of a girl broke up with us somebody ripped us off you got
Starting point is 01:19:43 backstaffed you lost everything you change because shit hit the fan right if you can change intentionally without crisis happening to you're ahead of the game you're ahead of everybody by 99% of people you're ahead of it's not even a question because almost everyone I saw in the last 20 years of business the guys that change they change after something shitty happening to them But the guys that change intentionally and every 90 days to 180 days you don't recognize them because they recreate themselves, you're almost like, I saw this guy six months ago. He's not the same. You don't see him for six months.
Starting point is 01:20:21 Man, he's changed again. You don't see him six months. That this guy's somebody. He's going places because every six months he's a new human being. He's still the same. He's humble. But there's something that's going on with this guy. He's different.
Starting point is 01:20:34 That's a person that's changing intentionally. not changing because the market's forcing you to change you know you're changing because you're setting the pace for everybody else um if you're able to do that it's not easy to do because the more you win what do people say by you oh my god dude you guys are killing it oh what you i saw it the other day and da da da da da oh what the fuck so amazing bro that girl this stuff and you almost have to be like yeah uh-huh yeah got it Boom. Out. Right? Out. And then PVD, what do you want to do? Kyle, what are we doing? Stanley, where are we going? What are you doing? Here's where pursue this, right?
Starting point is 01:21:18 That's not easy to do. Very hard to do. I think that's a problem people have too is when you have too many people telling you, yo, you're doing well. That's when you can get lazy too. When everyone's gassing you up like, yo, you're crushing it. And then people either respond with, you know, I'm good. Are there people that just keep going? It's a big separator. But it's everywhere. for you like what did you ever want to stop or did you have an ultimate goal you wanted to get to or you just keep going i'm i'm going till the day i die i'm i love this game oh my god you have no idea how much i love this game like you know how you're kind of like oh my god poor me i'm working so hard look at i freaking love this game it's just a very interesting game because i'm not running eight companies one of them i sold and my two years is done so i'm
Starting point is 01:22:06 just playing the role of a chairman of the board advisor stuff like that now i'm operating these other eight companies we're back to being a startup again chaos problems hr growth all this stuff but it's so much fun and we're doing a podcast and we're doing and and and and for kids and like this is a you know but if you're enjoying the game you know and and and and you're going like steve jobs would say if you go 30 days 60 days, 90 days, and you're miserable going to work every day, you have to really ask yourself, am I at the right place? Am I doing the right thing I'm supposed to be doing? But if you're going, you're like, no, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:22:45 I'm enjoying it. I'm having fun with it. And again, listen, vision, long term. I got kids, right? Everything I'm building with all my companies, everything I'm building with all my companies, is for one day, the holding company to have so many different businesses that you can pick and choose where you want to do.
Starting point is 01:23:01 If you're a lawyer, there's a place for you. If you want to go into real estate, there's a place for you. If you want to be talent, there's a place for it. If you want to be a director-producer, there's a place for you. If you want to be the money manager, there's a place for you. That's the whole thing where later on kids can be. There's a family on this side. If you guys leave, if you drive all the way around to go to this house right here,
Starting point is 01:23:22 the one right here that I was shown you, the three houses next to it, it's a family, it's a billionaire family, two sons, each have four kids. mom and dad started a company and I've got 7,000 8,000 employees they live here youngest son lives here oldest son lives here they're right next to each other
Starting point is 01:23:43 there's something about that that's crazy yeah there's something about that man that's like a you know kids growing up together grandkids grown up together you get a chance to see them that to me is a lot of fun
Starting point is 01:23:56 how would you respond if your son came to you and said hey dad I don't want anything to do with any of your companies I want to live a completely separate life we talk about that today we actually talk about that today with them and dylan my youngest son says dad i want to go into sports and after i'm done with sports i want to be a coach i want to manage a sports team no problem do i have to be in business with you not at all and i tell him so buddy i'd love for you to be in business
Starting point is 01:24:20 with me but you don't have to be the most powerful statement you can tell your kids over and over and over again i don't think any phrase is more powerful than this to your kids i don't think i could be wrong but this is mine uh last night my oldest son i said listen here's what you got to realize buddy you can get straight Fs you can get expelled from school you can you can do nothing useful with your life it's not going to change my love for you I love you will I be disappointed yes will I be hurt because I want to see your dreams become a reality yes I said but the love will never change you get straight A's you go to the best college you build a movie that wins the most Oscars
Starting point is 01:25:03 or whatever you do or you get straight Fs my love is the same because what that allows your kids to do just think about that feeling right now when somebody right now you're processing that statement right imagine your mom or your dad says something like that to you or maybe you're saying that's exactly what my mom said to me right what does that make you feel like
Starting point is 01:25:19 you're like okay I can play loose great but I need to form but if I don't I still got the love that's an insurance policy that allows you to go right allows you to go but at the same time the other day we're talking and I'm like so guys I got a question for you what should happen to daddy's money if I die and my oldest son says oh it should go to me I'll manage it then my youngest son said wait a minute how about me it says you're actually right we
Starting point is 01:25:54 should do 50-50 and then my youngest daughter my oldest daughter my oldest daughter or eight years old. She's like, how about me? And they're like, yeah, we'll take care of you. But I want my own money. So then I'm like, okay, what if one of you guys becomes a drug addict? What do you mean? What if one of you guys just is a bad sibling and all you want to do is party, do drugs, and be irresponsible? That person shouldn't get anything. Okay, good. You guys agree? I agree. What if somebody does that? What if somebody marries somebody that only marries you for the money because they want to get the money from the family and they're marrying the family
Starting point is 01:26:26 because they want your money, you're part of the state. No, we're not going to do that. They're going to have to be with me because they love me. So, okay, so that's good. We just wrote out a living trust right there. Yeah. Make sense? So these types of conversations you have early on,
Starting point is 01:26:40 I asked the other day, hey, what do you do if your sister, Senna, she's 16 years old, her boyfriend, slaps her in the face? And you see the brothers are like, what do you mean? Well, what would you do if that happens? What do you think is the right thing to do?
Starting point is 01:26:55 Beat that guy's ass. And it's so interesting seeing what they're saying. What was their response? Let me tell you, they both went there. One guy's eyes got like watery. Like, oh, he just, you know, so I'm looking. I'm like, Russon, this is just a question. It's not happening, guys.
Starting point is 01:27:13 I'm just asking you a question. How would you handle this? And what if she still wants to go back to him? What if she says it was my mistake? I deserve to get slapped. What if your sister says? What if your sister's trying to keep that away from us because she wears glasses?
Starting point is 01:27:28 What if she puts makeup on? But you know, because you saw it in school. How do you handle it? It's like, well, I think we would first have to handle among siblings. We would talk to each other. But if it gets out of hand, I need to bring you in. It was such an interesting dynamic.
Starting point is 01:27:43 But this is the part. So people will ask and say, Pat, do you have a photographic memory? I said, I don't know if I do or not, but I tell you what game I'll play all the time. What's that? Here's the game I play. The moment I'm done here with this meeting, I leave.
Starting point is 01:27:57 The first thing I do in my mind is try to restate as many facts as I can remember from this meeting. So I'm like, okay, he said this, he said this, he said that. I offered him drinks. He said, no, I offered him second time. He said, I said, do you want to eat something? No. But when I said, do you want Celsius or it's interesting? No, I'm good.
Starting point is 01:28:15 Protein, I offered, right? Boom. He took the protein. When Jimmy came in, Jimmy's like, hey, let me tell you, the guys are running late. because I told him to get back and send something. That's my fault, right? Jimmy had your back and he told you. Jimmy played a stud.
Starting point is 01:28:27 That's a big play from him. Yeah, he was cried from the beginning. Do you want anything? He didn't say anything, right? He didn't say anything, right? He was very, very quiet, right, when he was here. You offered him somebody to eat? Yeah, he's like he's good.
Starting point is 01:28:36 I said, do you need to use the bathroom? No. So he uses the bathroom. You don't want that. I'm telling you right now. Yeah. So, but what's the point? So this whole game is the memory game.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Like, let me see how much of it I can remember. Let me see if I can remember 100% of it, right? the game I play with the kids is the following game. It's such a great game. You should play with your kids when you have them. So going off that, it seems now like, and I've noticed this with other people that we've done that have kids that are successful.
Starting point is 01:29:01 Yeah. They seem very more involved in their kids' life with everything else, all these exterior shit going on in schools. Like Gavin Newsom passed that bill about not having to tell the parents if a kid tells a teacher, you know, I'm not sure what my gender is or I want to be some terms. I don't know
Starting point is 01:29:17 what he said exactly, but something along the fact that if somebody wants to go through the surgery they don't have to tell the parents yeah yeah yeah and i saw that was just passed in california like what do you how do you respond to that and what do you think of that what do i think about newsome and what he's doing that policy specifically oh that's exactly why i don't live there you know that's exactly why i don't live there so you want to come out with policies like that you're going to lose family people like me i'm not going to raise my kids there no problem well how about the fact that in florida there's hurricanes I would much rather live in a state that has hurricanes
Starting point is 01:29:52 but doesn't try to force LGBTQ to the kids than live in a state without hurricanes but it's going to sit there and confuse a hell out of my kids. I'm not okay with that because what age are we the most confused at 45, at 35, at 25, at 25, or 13, 14, 15? So why are you confusing kids at 13, 14, 15? While they're already confused, leave them alone. If somebody wants to make a decision later on in life, let them do it.
Starting point is 01:30:18 If at 25, you want to change it up and all of a sudden be like, I think I like this. No problem. At 12 years old, no, you don't, bro. You're good. Stay here. We're confusing at an age of most confused. Have you guys read the book, Anxious Generation?
Starting point is 01:30:32 That just came out a couple months ago. It's a phenomenal book to read. Does anybody here have kids or no? You guys have got kids. Nobody's got kids. Okay. It's a great book to read because he talks about the challenges
Starting point is 01:30:44 girls go through and how to help parents that they're going through this phone chat like for example when we were in hampton's couple weeks ago I had a couple guidelines I created for us when we're going out to dinner every time we're having dinner everybody give your phones put it at the table over there everybody put their phones away for three hours we actually spoke to each other and it was so funny because every time you want to get a like what year did this
Starting point is 01:31:07 we're all going like this we're all going like this and we're like oh shit let me go get the phone nope just talk by the second week we're together everybody is like can't wait to put the phone aside then anxious generation says that's some of the things you got to do another thing talks about is parents who give their girls an iPhone at night okay you give your kid you decide to give you a 14 15 16 year girl girl a phone no problem guess what what at 8 o'clock you have a safe all the kids bring their phones they put their phone in a safe you close it up 7 o'clock in the morning when they got to go back to school here's your phone he says you got to take the kids phone away from 8 till 7 in the morning. Great idea. Why? Because kids sit there late at night
Starting point is 01:31:51 on their phone still midnight. Take that away. All these things he talked about, how we're raising the next greatest anxious generation. Then one guy's doing a podcast with them. Ask them the most interesting question. He says, politically, which political family raise more anxious kids? Democrats that are your parents or conservatives that are your parents? He says, oh, it's not even close yeah he says who parents on the left raise more anxious kids parents on the right raise more kids that are calm and relaxed and enjoying themselves he says so which one are you he says oh i'm on the left he says since you've done the research and that's what it shows why don't you become a conservative he says i can i'm part of academia i'm on this side his research revealed these guys
Starting point is 01:32:33 raise better kids that are calmer these guys raise kids that are anxious he is still staying on this site that that argument gates even more weight because he's not changing his position but he's telling you the other party raises better kids why it's just predictable values and principles that the kids can be like all right this is where I'm at this site confuses the hell out of you but that's the part like in California kids are anxious kids are nervous yeah kids are questioning all these things that doesn't produce you know the right behavior this is a crazy question you don't you don't have to answer it. Go for it. In 10 years, your daughter comes soon and says, Hey, dad, all these other girls are doing it. I want to start out only fans. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:14 How do you react? How old is she? We'll say 21. I can't do nothing about it. If by that age, you choose to do it and I haven't given you enough of an argument in a life lessons to choose not to sell your body like that, it's my failure. I can't do anything with you. do your thing. What am I going to do? Nothing I can do about it. I'll come home. I'll be very disappointed. I'll be heartbroken. I'll be annoyed and I'll be upset. But guess what? She's got to make the choice. This is a lot of choices I made as a young adult. My dad watched me and he let me make him. He's like, you know, you're making a bad choice. I know. And it would begin to fight and I would still do it. And I'd watch him. I'm like, I wonder how you handle it. And I'd watch my dad. I'm like, man, this guy's freaking taking it. I could see the pain, but he would still make me breakfast. And I just got out of the army. I'm 21 years old. I see him.
Starting point is 01:34:12 It doesn't say anything to me, but it still makes my best dish. So the great equalizer when we do stupid shit as kids to hurt our parents is overflow love. Because that feeling is like, dude, this is what unconditional love is really all about? Oh my God. Forget about it. Screw this thing that I just did for a week. I'm back.
Starting point is 01:34:35 I'm glad you made the decision, but it won't be easy. I want to come to one of the dinners where we put our phones away. Do it. You're invited. You got the conference coming up. We might stop by later this week. Oh, it's great. Or next week, right?
Starting point is 01:34:47 Next week, yeah. We're going to have a, the Rock will be there. By the way, the after party will be sick if you guys want to come to. We're going to shut down the Flagler mansion in Palm Beach. And the Rock is actually, we'll be speaking that morning as well. So if you come Friday night and Saturday morning, so that is. the time to come because Saturday night will be the party and Saturday morning is when the Rock's going to be there. And yeah, we're going to have people coming in from 60 plus
Starting point is 01:35:13 countries, nearly 10,000 people in a room. We're going to go through a 200-page manual together on how to go from zero to selling your business for a few hundred million to everything else. It's a very unique way that we put this business conference. Started off five years ago with 400 people and it grew to what it is today. But yeah, it's going to be content-creating. Obviously, everyone's going to know who you guys are, but I think Saturday will be a great session for you guys to attend. Sweet. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:35:41 We'll put all those links in the description, link to the Academy in the description, all your links. We got to just have you on every like six to eight months. It's always dope. Always leave like fired up. You get everything of the fucking spectrum with money and learning, everything. Well, I tell you guys, if you guys do on the election night, do you guys know where you're going to be on election night?
Starting point is 01:36:01 Do you have any idea? I hope fucking partying with Trump, honestly. By the way, that's probably the number one place to be. The number two place to be is going to be with us when you hear what we're doing. But if that's the number one choice, yeah, listen, we're not going to beat that. If we got to be able to. You got to go there, yeah. But the number two, when we tell you what we're going to be doing, you're going to want to be there.
Starting point is 01:36:21 All right. All right. This is awesome. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Good stuff, boys.

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