FULL SEND PODCAST - Santa Cruz | Ep. 189

Episode Date: March 20, 2026

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episode every once in a little bit. Brian Johnson. You are going to bring up Brian Johnson and I don't know if you remember what he said, but the most unhealthy water bottles from Mr. Health guy. Wow. This is calling me out already. He said the cap is actually worse for you than everything in this cap. He also says sunlight is bad, so I don't really trust too much of what he says. But he's a cool guy. He does some cool experiments on himself, so you don't believe a lot of what he says? I don't believe in the plant-based

diet that he eats, and I don't believe that severely eliminating sunlight is a good idea. But I think he does some cool stuff. But like, the glass water bottles are better, because the reality is I'm going to take this, going to sit in the car, and if I brought a plastic water bottle, heat, the exposure, heat,

and sunlight to plastic is going to reach far more microplastics than a cap of that. But he doesn't do plastic bottles, does he? I hope he doesn't do plastic bottles. He spends $2 million a year on his own. He does some contraption type shit. He probably has like a crazy thing or like a one of those filters on his sink and then just does a glass probably. Yeah, which is so easy to do, bro, like a reverse.

Do you have reverse osmosis like in your house? Because you're locked in now. No, so you just even have fucking. I'm not, I'm not. I'm not. I'm more focused on like just like performance and physique than like I'm not really into the microplastic shit. Yeah. And like all that type of shit.

You know, you're grinding. You can't be overly worried about it, but at least at home, you should have like a reverse asmosis filter. If there's a plastic water bottle, I'm fucking slamming it. Yeah, I mean, again, it's not like the biggest deal with health, but it's so easy to, you guys have money. You get to a new place, you order a bunch of cases of those, boom. How bad are, like, those plastics? Well, I mean, it's been shown that it disrupts your endocrine system. It puts something into your blood called a xenoestrogen, which mimics estrogen.

And then when you look at how we have a bunch of xenoestrogens in our environment, it's like this couch is definitely, I hope you guys got, you know, organic wool, organic cotton couch for me, but I don't think so. So that's like off gazing. So there's some like xenoestrogens in there. And then you get a little bit from the microplastics. Stani pop like five zins before that. There might be some microplastics in there. He has cologne on or something.

He's spraying himself with cologne. And then there's it. Bruce Buffers cologne though. It adds up. So that's the real thing. Adds up to what? If you want some real shit, I just did a locked-in episode with six cancer survivors.

And these are all young dudes that went through cancer treatment. And it's brutal. And so when I hear something, you know, might be potentially carcinogenic, I try to minimize it in my life. I don't want to go through that. Cancer rates are skyrocketing in young people, especially young men. What is skyrocketing? Cancer rates. So like colon cancer in particular, which I think like this combination of most young men do a bunch of energy drinks, a bunch of zins.

They don't have a good diet. They don't eat real whole foods. It's like, bro, there's a hundred and 24% increase in colon cancer since 2004. That's not good. What's the biggest red flags you see in food products? The overall thing, the most important thing is that you don't exist as a fat person for too long. Being fat is not good for you. It's not acceptable.

We can fat shame with you, right? You can fat shame with me. Yeah. Do you consider yourself fat or what do you consider yourself? What the fuck? No, just like an actual question. No, Stani's not fat. You're not fat.

No. But do you consider yourself like, what did you whip today? What did I lift today? I did a little bit of arms, a little bit of back. What'd you do that? What's your bench PR? My bench PR, I think is like 245. I'm not a big like bench.

Well, yeah, I mean, be there, but whatever. No, I don't consider myself fat. I consider myself like in shape. I'm not where, I'm not the best shape of my life. But you're working towards it. Yeah. And are you going to do some stuff with these guys? These guys are on another level right now.

This dude's doing jihitsu. This dude just ran 100 miles. Yeah. What are, what's Steinies thing? Uh, walking out of my crib, sitting in the sunlight. That's good. Yeah, getting sun. I do, uh, this brand called, I think it's the best electrolytes in the game.

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Yeah. I mean, there's some electrolytes in there too, but I'm not a big thing. I've been way more, uh, I've been going to the gym lifting, but I've been more focused now on. I think Sun's so fucking important. It is. It is. It changes my life.

And then I've been more my cardio. Like I've been walking. I walk to the gym there and back every day now. Nice. You go in? You walk there, back. and back i walk there and then go i go i walk there get a lift in then walk back and it's like two miles each way nice that's dope dude i mean honestly like most people can like benefit tremendously from just

waking up getting outside getting some sunlight getting some hydration and starting to do a little like morning routine i think a big problem with a lot of young men is they just wake up and they're in like a fucking panic bro like they just wake up on their phone and they're not even getting their day like set up for success and any way shape or form and it's like you can wake up go outside get some hydration You're going to get light in your eyes. Even if it's cold and cloudy outside, you still get like the circadian biology benefits from getting that. And then you start to get hydrated. You start to do a little mobility routine.

You're going to set your day up way better. What do you recommend to people that like, like, I'm blessed enough. I live in Miami, but I'm obviously from like Toronto, Canada. So in the winter, it's, it's impossible to get sun. I used to get seasonal depression. I know people get it. And it's a thing where it's like, you don't see the sun for fucking like. Roodle.

Five months. So what do people do in that? So that's where I think you still got to get outside of it's cloudy, but like let's get into some actual people like no shit. So it's like let's get into some actual stuff that can help them. These red light devices are for real. Like the ones that are getting pushed right now, they are real. Like red light's not not one of those trendy things. It's going to be like, oh, no, it's like kind of this thing that people are into.

Red light is real. There's so many PubMed papers on it. And you can get one of those devices now for like 100 something bucks. Like you're not going to get the giant. And what's the benefit of that right in the morning? So the benefit of that is like your eyes are part of your brain. they're not actually separate from your brain. They're considered part of your brain.

And different light signals give your body different signals into your pituitary gland. So, like, right now we're getting a lot of blue light in our eyes, which I'm a little upset about because it's late at night. So, like, this blue light is telling my body to not produce melatonin, because that would make me fall asleep or make me sleepy. And so light gives your body signals. And we evolved over millions of years with the sun. And when you wake up in Canada and it's dark outside,

like you can sort of shift that by turning on a red light, getting some of that red light in your eyes. And for people that are vain out there, there's tons of studies showing red light benefits your skin health. So it's just dope. Asking for a friend, if you live in a cold area, I don't. But is it lame for dudes to hit a tanning bed? I'm not a big fan of tanning bed.

So, like, we had this dude on our podcast that is a red light. No, I know. But you're getting red light, but you're not getting tan. Yeah, it's two different things, bro. I get that. I'm saying you're missing the tan exposure, which you have a nice tan right now. Thank you. Well, yeah, I live in sunny San Diego right now.

so the reason that those tanning beds have probably have more melanoma associated is because it's isolated light so like from the sun we get this full spectrum of light like there's not only red light there's like green and blue and yellow and there's this full spectrum and we had this circadian biologist expert on the podcast and he broke all this shit down way better than i could but like he's basically saying we're adapted to get these different spectrums of sunlight early morning sun exposure makes it so you will get sunburn less in the day. Let's say you get early morning sun on your body, and then you go out at like 3 p.m.

and you get a lot of sun. You will burn less. Your body like starts to adapt and develop resilience. The tanning beds are like isolated blue light even sometimes, and in my opinion, that shit's not good. Yeah. What about like this is my biggest thing, and we can actually agree on this.

Like if you're a guy in your mid-20s and you vape, like, dude, you're a bitch. I'm very against vaping. I'm very against vaping, especially like... It's just so, there's so much work. to it too like this guy's always like I need a fucking that was your vape first of all it's like I need a vape and then it's like I need a charger oh my god bro fuck off like fuck off what do you like fuck off with the way that's one thing I that that's bad that but you should even quit and go towards zins and I'm not here to promote zins but that's a better that's a better

thing for me vaping in front of a girl too now it's like dude like no I don't do it much in front of it's just no sauce at all like a big box vape I bet she was pink and in gay looking let's see it's it's pink and white it's bro See, that's so gay. I just picture, too, you know when a chick loses their vape and, like, they freak out? Guys do that too, and I'm like, dude, I don't freak out. I just haven't. Bro, if you lost your pouch of Zins and, like, you couldn't get another one, though, you'd be freaking out, loki.

No, I'd just go buy another one. Yeah, exactly, because you'd be like, holy shit, I need to buy another one. I don't think the Zins in the, like, taking nicotine like this has the same, like, freak out effect as where's my vape? Yeah, maybe, yeah, I don't know, like, the, like, how many milligrams you're getting from a vape, but I do feel like people have Zin clear. Zin addictions now. And again, we had a doctor on the podcast. He's a pretty rational dude. He's an MD and he's like, look, there's a lot of interesting studies on nicotine. But I think people have taken it a little over the top with, look, dudes here, oh, there's some neuroprotective effects. It can help stave off Alzheimer's and they're like, let me rip 20 zins a day.

Bro, that's not, come on. Are people actually saying it's like good for you? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh. Oh, just clip on viral on Instagram, some guy being like, nicotine is the only substance on earth that can cure like Alzheimer's. And he's just talking shit. But it's like it can have neutropic like effects, which neutropics like benefit your brain in many ways. But that doctor went, yeah, okay, like recommended use of nicotine, probably be like twice a week. It's like, that's not how people are using it. So how bad is vaping? Vaping's absolutely horrible.

You don't even know what you're inhaling, bro. Not really, yeah. You have no idea. And dude, you just, you start doing jujitsu. Like, don't you want to have like, you know, like lung power? That's true. That's true. I am addicted to it a bit.

That cancer episode I filmed, like, scared me. I'm already neurotic about a lot of stuff, but like, who knows? You know, sometimes, like, sometimes cancers can hit, like, young kids, and it's not like, oh, they weren't locked in. Like, that's not what I'm saying. But we know with this rise of cancer, you should be doing, like, you should obviously not be vaping, and you should be doing things that would probably lower your risk. Like, that's what's about.

Let's go back to the other thing you talked about, because I feel like I'm, I need energy drinks. I feel Celsius is strong as fuck. Yeah. Sometimes I'll have two back to back, which I think is not a good idea. A lot of caffeine, bro. So, but how do you find more natural energy then? Dude, you guys have filmed with the legend Gary Breka. Gary Breka's whole thing, I mean, he does a lot of stuff, but he talks about

mitochondrial health a lot. And what he's talking about there is it's the powerhouse of your cell, and they're finding now that you can do all types of stuff. You could lab test your mitochondrial health and figure out that you need more CO-10, and literally like your cells are going to have more energy. And now people are coming out with these mitochondrial peptides. I talked to an elite-level jizzo athlete that started blasting this mitochondrial peptide, which don't do this guys.

It's still being research. But he was like, yo, I'm taking a bunch of MOTC. I'm taking this and that. And he was like, dude, I don't get tired. Like, I don't get tired. So, like, that's where, like, real energy comes from. And, like, different things,

like blue light, bad sleep will cook your mitochondrial health slowly. Even flying, bro, you guys are flying all the time. So, like, you should start to look into some mitochondrial support. You doing those energy drinks, it puts you in a bad cycle. So, like, this coffee right now, the caffeine is a half-life of, about six hours, depending on your genetic makeup, six to eight hours. So there's 100 milligrams of caffeine in there. It's like 6 p.m. right now. You're going to try to go to sleep. Well,

you might go to sleep late, man. I don't know if you're getting into later. Okay. So like, you're going to try to sleep on this red eye. Sanx. Yeah, see, there we go. And there's the, there's the cycle that a lot of people are in. That'll fuck a blue light. Let me tell you. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Blue light's minor when it comes to, comes to that. So this is the cycle a lot of people are in, honestly, where they're like, I'm tired. You know, let me drink some Celsius or a coffee at 6 p.m. And they feel like, oh, well, I can fall asleep. They've done studies on that shit, bro.

Your sleep is negatively affected. You're still having about 50 milligrams of caffeine in your body by midnight. And if a 50 milligram caffeine pill was next to your bed and I was like, Stine, take this, it's midnight. You'd be like, no, I'm not taking that. But you're essentially doing the same thing. Just because it lasts so long. Yeah.

So you don't have caffeine at all? No, I do coffee in the morning. Okay. I had a beautiful coffee up here on the rooftop this morning. But like, I have a time window when I can have it. For me, it's like 10 to 1130. And if I don't have the caffeine in that time, then I won't have it. All right.

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Togi for instance, right? He's in great shape. Shout out Togi, yeah. Togi definitely kills energy drinks yeah definitely does some of the same shit that we all do right that aren't good for you but in his mindset is i look like this so maybe those side effects don't affect him is that a totally almost died how i don't know the specifics of it but he almost died bro he went on some type of bender and he had like a severe like he you understand i'm passed away almost left this earth is you see these gym bros that are sure jacked yeah and so because they look good they might not even notice or think oh i'm having five energy drinks a day look we all want to look good, and that is, like, one of the most important things that we all think about. We want to be

jacked and look good. I think, you know, once you get older, it's more about how you feel, and then you do start to think about longevity. If you like life, and life is going well, you're going to want to be around and feel good for a long time and just do the shit you like to do. So I get it, or there's somebody that told you were like, I'm jacked, like, look, but bro, like, you can get jacked doing dumb shit, and, like, you see, like, there's actual studies on bodybuilders that take a lot of steroids. They die of heart attacks. They, like, at a way higher rate. Like, these dudes oftentimes, unfortunately, pass away in their 40s.

It's like, I don't want to die in my 40s, bro. What are we talking about? You never done, like, tests or any of that shit, right? I never have, you know, Greg Ducet, he just made a video in accusing me of enclomaphine. The fuck is that. Because, like, I got my test levels checked, and, like, my test was really high on this last test. What's your test level? 1,000.

No fucking chance. I swear. I have the lab results. Isn't it? Isn't that way above average? 700's, like. Yeah. So my, my levels before were close to 900.

then they went up to a thousand. Now, here's the thing. This is why Greg just said, excuse me. I make this video. Like, yeah, my test levels are at 1,000. But I show the whole blood work. So, like, in the next video, I'm like, the reason there are 1,000 is because this thing called my SHBG was a little high. It's supposed to be like 50 is that brain when I was like 54. So I sat down with that doctor on my podcast recently and explained, like,

okay, your test is really high, but your free test is just like normal high. Like, so there's a whole calculation of your testosterone and your free test. Then you look at, yeah, you look at your SHBG, other levels. So there's some things I can do to sort of dial that in. Overtraining might have been a part of it. Like before I got my blood work done, we were just going hard. I was like, surf, jujitsu class, weights. You know over training because you just did 100 miler.

It can do some weird stuff with your hormones. So I need to dial them. But yeah, I got that pretty good hormone health. What do you think is the best supplement? Okay. The best supplement is if you are not getting total body sun exposure, you should take vitamin D. And vitamin D is a bit controversial, but like, it's like, get sun.

Don't buy a supplement. but if that's not an option for you, like you're saying many people live in areas where they're not going to get that sun. If you're low in vitamin D, you're cooking your bone health, your skin health, it's connected with depression, anxiety, and it's so affordable to something.

Like our vitamin D we sell is like 14 bucks, like two months made with organic olive oil. It's easy. The next one's going to be magnesium. Like those two right there, vitamin D and magnesium, I eat a hell of good diet, but when I put my stuff into chronometer

and track everything, I'll even fall sometimes short a little bit in magnesium. So that helps with sleep. It helps with sleep. The glycinate form in particular is magnesium binded with glycine. So it helps with sleep. It's so easy, bro. Like a lot of these supplements, dude, people look at them like, oh, I just want to eat like good.

I don't need a supplement. Yeah, you're right. Like, you can just eat real food. Start there. Don't buy any supplements if you don't sleep well. If you're just like partying a bunch, like it, you don't need a supplement. You need like to dial in like life a little bit. And then, yeah, look towards supplements.

Everyone's stores by chicken, rice, vegetables. It's like the ideal healthiest meals you can have twice a day. Bro, I love steak and potatoes. I'm a huge steak of potatoes. Steak is great. Steak is great. It really should eat that every day, right? Because the red meat and shit and cholesterol.

I think some of that's cap. Scientifically proven, my friend. Scientifically proven by who? Mr. Brian Johnson, who lives down the street. Did he scientifically prove it? Okay, well, then why do people with extremely high cholesterol sometimes live very long lives? Why do people with low cholesterol sometimes get heart attacks? If cholesterol causes heart disease, then why did our ancestors eat tons of red meat, tons of animals?

And why are there people like the Inuit people who eat like whale blubber, like pure saturated fat and they don't get heart attacks? Isn't gout also a thing from red meat? When you look into it, it's not, when you have a balanced diet. I'm not one of these people, though, that says, like, eat a bunch of fatty red meat every single day. Like, you do want to go towards some, like, leaner cuts. I'm not one of these people that is like the stick of butter type people, like get your saturated fat intake high, spike your cliquely. I'm not that. Yeah.

But I think avoiding meat and eggs and grass-fed butter because of cholesterol is complete cap. Well, BJ also swore that... He said that everyone... This are his words. He said everyone should be microdosing ozempic, and he thinks ozempic is one of the best products for every human out there. If you are obese and have had trouble losing the weight, I think GOPs are...

Definitely something you should look into. Like stuff like Reda Trutide, stuff like Ossampic, I think it's pretty dumb to say, even though someone like me, someone who loves the natural route, if someone just time after time, they're just spending year after year in this state where they're carrying a lot of extra weight around their midsection, should probably get on a GLP. But for people that are in shape, I think it's the dumbest thing ever to get on something like Red or True Tide, you have a bunch of dudes nowadays that are lean and pretty jacked

hopping on Reda to lean out. And this doctor on our podcast is like, bro, He's seeing these kids, he's like, interacting with them doing their lab work. They're not getting micronutrients in because they're not hungry at all. They're already lean, and they're eating like 1,200 calories a day. Try to fit your micros into a 1,200 calorie diet. That's fucking low. They're cooked, bro.

And then that cooks your testosterone and creates this cycle. And these kids are vain. They're doing it because they're vain. You're going to cook your skin. It's just stupid. What's your opinion on peptides as a whole? Peptides as a whole. It really depends which one.

I'm on BPC-157. Huge fan of it. I started that somewhat recently and like, you know, in Jiu-Situ, you get little injuries and shit, you probably have some lingering injuries, I'm guessing from the training. I got a couple BPC shots of my fucking ankles. Dude, I'm on my ankle

right now. Like I, like, sprained my ankle. Then I went and trained to the Michael Morales that UFC fighter. And I was like, fuck it, I'm just going to train with my ankle swollen, so it got worse. And then boom, I'm hitting with BPC. Like, I brought some to Tahoe with me because I just came back from town. I'm like, I'm not going to not snowboard my boys. And that combined with

the physical therapy, like movement of it, it's pretty far. I'm a big fan of it. But then, I mean, other peptides, like GHK, CU is very popular. That seems relatively safe. But then there's ones that mess with your endocrine system. Like some of the austerine and stuff can mess with your endocrine system. Reda, you know, is like very popular again.

Like, sure, if you were really overweight, you could use it. But not everybody should be using that. I mean, you don't have any cheat meals, do you? I don't. Like, a cheat meal for me is like... You don't smoke weed. Tacos. I used to smoke weed.

I don't. Did you control your diet when you smoked weed? When I was healthy and still smoked? Yes. When's the last time you had a drink? Like a couple years ago. Oh. Yeah.

So you just stopped. Like a couple years ago, I had like one shot. Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. But dude, back in the day, shout out Happy Dad. Like, I was still in this like thing of trying to be healthy when I was younger and still like trying to go drink with my friends. And like a cleaner seltzer like that, way better option than beer. Yeah, it's way better than beer.

You know, I don't advocate for this, but it's like the reality. It's like, people. in college and young people are going to drink alcohol. So it's like you might as well have a stack that you could do to try to stay healthy. And people will call that dumb because of like, well, alcohol's a poison. But it's like, let's talk reality here. Like people are going to go drink. They're going to want to socialize.

So it's like you're way better off having a few of those staying hydrated. I haven't done this for over a decade, but like the dark beers like, bro, you're going to be so fucked up. You're going to be so hung over. There's basically drinking bread. There's 13 grams of carbs in a corona. Yeah. Yeah.

So you add that up. I got fat as fuck before. Oh, beer will just... Because I don't know how many coronas I drank in my life. A lot. A lot. A lot of ronas, and that's a lot of sugar, dude. Yeah, and it's like, you know,

you can go out at night and have like a little N-acetyl cystine in your pocket, little vitamin C, little magnesium, rip some electrolytes and water in between drinks and, like, you know, activated charcoal after you drink everything can really help. And you'll be less hungover. Activated charcoal? Yeah. So if you get alcohol poisoning of Stiney tonight at the airport,

for his, you know, red eye, like, goes off and as like, you know, 10 whiskey shots, I don't know, and he gets alcohol poisoning, God forbid. They would pump him full of activated charcoal at the hospital. But you can take, like, small doses of activated charcoal, and it will reduce hangovers. It's pretty sick. Where do you get that at? Any health food store? Yeah, like whole foods has them.

What's a few natural ways to boost test? The most important thing for test is sleep. And the problem is many people, they can't wind down, bro. Like, and, dude, you know, I'll struggle with it, too. It's fun. It's fun going on our phones. We all work on our phones and shit. There's, like, so much going on.

that people have a lot of trouble winding down. So, like, the free method for that is there's something called 4-7-8 breathing, and it's just been proven to lower your heart rate. So you go on YouTube, you type in 4-7-8 breathing, and it's somebody you literally breathe in for 4, you hold for 7, you exhale for 8. You do that for like 5, 10 minutes, just in the dark, make your room completely dark. Because, bro, like, dude, I see people like, I'm going to bed,

and the room will look like this. It's like, no, you're not. You might be going into some wax stages of sleep, but you're not actually, like, getting deep sleep. and sleep is the number one thing for test. What else besides sleep, like diet-wise? Yeah, I think diet-wise, like, there is evidence that, like, having a bounce macro-nutrient ratio where you do have some saturated fats in your diet.

I think people are a little bit afraid of the saturated fats, but they can help your endocrine system. And then I'm a huge fan of eating red meat. Like, there's something to it. I think everybody has felt that effect if you eat a steak and, like, you know, later with your girl and you lay good pipe. It happens. Yes, sir.

Liver King 2.0. Liver King 2.0. Well, hey, I don't want to shout out Liver King. That's awesome. Whatever. He's still around? I visited him last year. Oh, you did?

Yeah, and we did the Barbarian workout at his late compound. He's sick, dude. Like, he's out there, I'll say. But he's cool. He's a cool dude. You've done so many collabs with anyone maybe we would know. Was there someone where you were like, dude, this guy has to change their entire lifestyle or they're fucked? I have concerns about neon's health.

Legit. I love neon, and text them sometimes. He has like Crohn's disease. Oh, he does? And try to link him with a functional medicine doctor who's like, dude, I can fix your Crohn's. And he hasn't like, you have to like submit all these lab tests and stuff. And I know it's like a bit of work. And sometimes you just forget about it.

But bro, that shit can catch up with you, you know. So yeah, he needs to dial in him. Where do you do like Brian Johnson's fucking scientist, where do you get all your research from? Where you're pretty confident you're right. Yeah, totally. I mean, so I got my degree in anthropology from UCC. Santa Cruz. And so you study like the history of human beings and how we lived and I got super interested in the medical anthropology side of things. Like you start to like see like these tribes and

stuff. And like one of the things I always bring up is there was this one anthropologist that went to this island and you noticed that none of the people there had acne. So they brought it like dermatologists and stuff and they were like they did all these medical exams on these people. The teenagers didn't have acne. The adult, they didn't have a word for it. Okay. So he's like, what is going on? And his conclusion was it's the gut microbiome. It's no processed foods whatsoever. and now you see all the research with the gut skin access. If you type that end of PubMed, if anybody is interested, you can read all about it. Your gut maker brown makes up your immune function and tremendously influences your skin health.

So back in college, I'm a little vein, you know, I'm like, I'm trying to get my skin better. I start eating real food. Boom. Like instant. So that like sent me down a rabbit hole. Sorry, wait. Real food as opposed to what? Just processed food.

Yeah. Fast food. Just shit. Dude, I saw something the other day that people, Chipotle is bad for you. You know, I'm not really against Chipotle, bro. In all honesty, I can't cut that out. What are some good, like, fast, like spots like that we would recommend? I mean, Chipotle is a great, you go there, you get some rice, you get some meat.

Like, sure, they use seed oils. I'm not a fan of seed oils. But, like, bro, we're talking, like, that's pretty low on a lot of people's list of, like, the important things for health. Sure, I think once you have the resources, you should dial that in. But I think Chipotle is pretty good. In-N-Out, you order a protein style. You go there, you get, like, a three-by-zero. The beef's fresh, too.

Yeah, I mean, it's, like, a decent option. And you get the lettuce wrap. What if someone in your car wants to get their fries animals? Do you fuck with them or kick them out of the car? I don't kick them out of the car. Well, dude, what the fuck are they putting in their body? We can't allow that. I'll roast them a little bit.

Yeah. But I'm roasting them out of love. Yeah. You know? Like, that's why I love you, Sonny. You need to lock in. I know. Yeah.

Your health is important. It's gotten a lot better. And one of the... Has it? Yeah. You guys... He's hitting a little bit of a wall slowly, I think. But, I mean...

Like, in terms of getting ready to... It flips for everyone out of a different time, right? For sure. Yeah. The partying kind of caught up to me and I was just like, I can't live like this anymore. Partying is tough, man. He thinks he needs steroids to get in shape. No.

You think you need to get on gear? I think it would make that process a hell of a lot faster. We can agree on that, right? Yeah, if you just want to get jacked and die at like 42 of heart attack. But like if you just want to have like a long, healthy life, you know? I need a little longer than 42. A little longer, just a little longer than that. No, man, I think you're enjoying life.

Yeah. I see your Instagram stories, you know? You look like you're enjoying life, I hope. No, I am. I've changed a lot of habits, but it's got a lot better. All right, I want to tell you guys about fast growing trees. They're America's largest online nursery, serving over 2 million customers. They basically have any type of plant or tree that your home or your spot would need.

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What's like a day in the life of Steinie? Like, wake up? What time? Nine or ten? Okay. I have a problem and I need to change this. I lay in bed for like 45 minutes. I think that's an unhealthy habit. It sort of is unhealthy. Like, you know, people talk about cortisol a lot. It's like this like term now. Like you want to be very low cortisol. Like don't spike your cortisol. But like your body, has a cortisol rhythm and it rises in the morning and it falls throughout the day and you can do this lab test called the dutch test i'll send you one where you basically track your cortisol rhythm throughout the whole day and if it doesn't rise in the morning and then fall throughout the day you're cooked and this is why a lot of people get like insomnia you can see it on the dutch test like bro it's 9 p.m and your cortisol is spiking okay so that let me ask you this how do you know when because everyone likes to say dude

i have insomnia and it's probably their habits and like sometimes i think dude i fucking might have it because i can't fall asleep at night unless I take melatonin or NyQuil or some shit. Damn. Which is terrible, right? That's actually really good. So I'm trying to like just fall asleep. Well, dude, don't fucking scare. No, I'm just like, dude.

I got used to know. You should hear this, bro. You're downing NyQuil. Like, this is what, this is the thing. I think a lot of people need to like really like, re-evaluate their, right? That shit will put you to sleep. Melatonin is addicting, though. I'm not a fan of daily melatonin use.

Like, I'm not against melatonin. That shit does nothing for me. It helps. It helps me. It helps me. I have a problem with sleep. It's not a bad, melatonin is not a bad thing. Not NyQuil.

Like, we make those sleep caps that you're boys on and it's like those don't have melatonin and that's on purpose because it wants to be a nice, gentle nudge to get that eyes heavy feeling and you get good sleep, but you don't wake up feeling like groggy. You do feel groggy with meltonin. You feel groggy with nal. With NyQuil, you probably feel mad gregor. There's for sick.

Bro, there's red 40 in NyQuil too. That's why it's all red. You're not a sick. You're not a sick individual. Right. Let's say, let's say I'm trying to get off that shit. Okay, if you're trying to get off that, here's what you do you know it's the time you want it what time do you go to sleep 10 11 yeah 11 to

midnight between okay so it's 11 you've texted your roster you know steinney's dialed it all in for the next day okay okay so you're ready to go to sleep yeah you need to first make your living space dark actually dark hours before that you should have thrown on blue blockers like those orange tinted glasses are legit wear them at night for sure so you throw those on hours before now it's time to go to bed yeah do you have a pair of those no i'll get you bro those are actually really legit and if you of like a flight at night, for example, and like, let's say you're going to land back home in Canada and you want to go to sleep, like, bro, where are those in the plane? You're just blasting yourself with blue light, your eyes are getting fatigued, and it's signaling to your body to stop

producing melatonin, so then it makes it harder to fall asleep. The blue light blockers are a game changer for me, bro. Because, dude, I live a normal life. Like, I'm chilling with my wife. We're going to watch, like, Landman. It's like 7 p.m. I'm not, like, going to rise and fall with the sunset. I'm living a somewhat normal life. But I throw on the blue blockers, and I'm getting way less blue light in my eyes. And then you make your room like completely dark. And then I would take magnesium. I would take something like, you know, elthenin. Like we make sleep caps. I have elthenin. Some other herbs in there, like gentle push to go to sleep. Does magnesium make you tired or make you? No, that's a really weird thing. Like magnesium doesn't make you tired. Magnesium glycinate can

help sleep because it's glycine with magnesium. There's just actually a new study about this. So it's pretty cool. But magnesium won't like knock you out. Yeah. But it helps with everything. The body helps over 300 processes in the human body. Like, you need magnesium. So that's another thing. Like, you shouldn't worry too much about when you take it. Like, some people are like, oh, shit, I forgot to take my magnesium. Like, it's too late or, like, too early in the day.

Like, just fucking pop that shit. You'll be fine. And then you should try that, like, deep breathing. Meditation, prayer, man. You'll fall asleep. You do that at night? I do it in the morning and at night, yeah. I breathe, man, yeah.

You just sit there and the deep breaths? Yeah, so, like, right now. I've never seen a video of you doing it, bro. I have some videos of that. It's easier to just take a scoop of night quill, right? Yeah, yeah, bro. I mean, this is, like, I'm talking about breathing and making your room dark versus, like, man-made night cool. For sure.

So these are the options we have here. No, I need to go with the man-made. No, no, not the man-made. Yeah, go with the natural side. Dude, so there's a breathing shit I'm doing lately. I'm trying to get more into spearfishing. So I'm doing this breathing at night where it's like, it's called breathing tables. You, like, breathe, and then you hold your breath for a certain amount time.

And, you know, and that shit's intense, bro. And I'm trying to get to be able to, like, dive down with the spear gun, like, hold my breath for, like, two minutes. these dudes can go down like it's insane we saw it we saw force galante do it in Australia our friend forest galante yeah fuck dude people just go down for like three minutes yeah it's insane I really don't get how they do that so I'm just trying to get up like maybe like minute and a half underwater shoot some fish because right now I'm going down I'm like yeah I'm just I'm capping the fish but it's not what's your training regimen like my training regimen is I do weights like hard like three times a week and then I try to go to jit-to like twice a week and then I surf

I like to throw on like different hobbies like surf, mountain bike, and then my new thing lately is I want to get good at spearfishing and free diving. That's why you're doing like some conditioning shit on your IG or something like. Oh, like on the assault bike probably. Or you're walking like going to. Oh, I think you're talking about barbarian. That was the barbarian. Oh, okay. So Liver King's Barbarian workout.

Okay. Went super viral. A lot of creators like did it when he was like popping. And it's you take two 70 pound kettle bells. You have a backpack with 70 pounds on you. You have a shoulder. straps attached to a sled with 120 pounds on a minimum 35 pound sled the ones at liver king's property are like fucking heavy ass rogue sleds you have ankle weights on 20 pounds of

ankle weights you can only walk when you're holding the kettlebells and you go a mile bro we're at liver king's dude how much weight is that on you that's like it's like 385 or something huh bro it's it's insane it's like what the fuck so we got cooked bro we're at liver king's house and we're sitting down at dinner and he says some shit like we're like we're signing off for dinner he's all these weird things and he's like liver king something out and we're like fuck to a rogan he goes yeah he was

we were trying to get him off that Joe Rogan shit I was like bro Joe Rogan's not going on about it a little bit and I'm like bro Joe Rogan's not your enemy I'm like bro Crumble cookie is your enemy he kind of got on that train a little bit like Crumble cookie's the enemy fuck Crumble

fuck McDonald's fuck Taco Bell fuck all that shit I was trying to get him on that wave which he is a little bit but then he goes to his son his kids are really cool and they go strike of the barbarian out And it goes to his next son, Rad, the barbarian out. And then it goes to my videographer.

And he goes, Albert the barbarian out. And Liver King freaks out. So it's throwing plates in there and shit. Freaks out. And I'm like, oh, we're going to die now. Like something just, I don't know what happened. And he's like, once it's said, it must be done. You have 24 hours.

It's spoken into existence. We go, what the fuck is this full talking about? And he's like, you have to do the barbarian workout tomorrow to my careman. Karen's like, okay. So then it goes to my buddy, Big Wave Surfer, Savage, and he goes, well, I'm not going to let him do that shit alone. Tanner the Barbarian, out. I'm like, dude, I'm sitting there at the end of the table like, bro, I don't,

I'm tired, I don't want to do this. I don't know what it is. Goes to my buddy Austin, the Marine. He's a Marine. He's a Marine. Austin the Barbarian, out. So it goes to me, I'm like, okay, I say Brennan the Marbarian. And the next day we had to do that shit.

It was brutal. Okay, wait. How long did it take you to walk the mile? Two hours, 48 minutes. Fucking a, bro. It's brutal. dude it's so brutal i can't be like you like you like it almost because it's a lot of weight it's a lot of way when i first started doing it i went i'm not gonna do this because i'm light too yeah so i'm like i'm like

i'm like i'm like i'm not gonna be able to do this and dude you'll identify with this it was like one third in bro i was like it was one of the most challenging things i've done physically and it was like you're just one third in i'm like i'm i'm broken you know my buddy started before me um like hours before me and he's my big wave surfer buddy and he's like our north star you ran into the 100 mile shit and she's my north star for physically difficult stuff and i like hear him being like this is fucked and i'm like dude if tanner is saying that like we're we're fucked and that was the seal or yeah that was that was my buddy the big wave surfer he's the most physically fit dude i know and he was like this is absolutely fucked and i'm like oh god but we

just you just you just move a little bit out of time and you can some people it takes them eight hours 10 hours 12 hours you just do it so that sounds fucked yeah it was kind of sick though like after you know you you get that feeling like once you get there it's it's for sure yeah it's yeah it was it was kind of worth it why do people neon when i i asked him about you like they all call you a savage is that because you're just brutally honest with people or do you go off on i feel like i i feel like i go a little hard on people but it's from a place of love like genuinely like 100% like i i've seen the other side of being unhealthy you know and like i genuinely want people to be healthy and like it matters so much and People just don't think about it until they're in that place of health's taken away from them.

And some shit goes down and you're in the hospital. And like, it's horrible, bro. Yeah. And I don't, I don't want, I don't wish on anybody. And sometimes it does take a little bit of like tough love, so to speak. The other thing is, bro, like, I have my company. Like, I've made, like, a lot of money. I do well.

So I don't, like, need anything from anybody. You know what I mean? So I'm not, like, afraid to, like, go hard. But I'm not, I'm not trying to go hard and, like, a negative. You see those people that seem like they're happy in the moment. Oh, I'm eating whatever I want. But they seem happy. and then they're not thinking longevity and like that and then one day it's going to hit them and

they're going to change their life for sure 100% and dude like just genuinely I feel good like I feel good 99% of the time like I know maybe more like I have energy I don't get like you just a lot of people just have this shit of I have headaches like I have a friend who like eats bad and he like shits like seven times a day it's like bro this isn't normal you don't have to have this going on your life you're doing this to yourself and I think it's self-sabotage for a lot of people when you're locked in there's nothing better there's nothing better you feel so good You feel amazing. And bro, like...

When I hit that, like, 21 days of, like, being, like, locked, locked in, I feel like I'm taking, like, the limitless pill. It's really amazing. It's crazy, bro. And when did you... You guys kind of got on, like, a health wave, like, recently, somewhat recently. Yeah, for me, like, three years ago, I did my first transformation. And then, since then, that?

You just wanted to get jacked, or what? Just hitting a wall with partying a little bit. I got inspired by him and did my own. Yeah. Yeah. And you started jihitsu. Yeah. And how do you like it?

I love it, man. It's addicting. It is addicting. I haven't done it in a minute, but uh, once Honey Badger, I was telling you about them. We all love it. Our whole crew loves it. Just being, you know, when we're on, when we're on our shit. Yeah, you're sleeping good. You're eating good. You guys are pretty locked in though. Like your whole like schedule of just like being here. Like you were like, you wake up like you're like, yo, we're ripping the gym at this time. Like you get the whole crew there. There's something better. I'm just addicted to it too. Like yeah, if I don't, if I'm not moving my body for two days, three days, like I start to get the. depressed 100% like I literally just I'm on edge I don't feel good if they could go to go you feel like you owe your body something yeah you feel like your body like the work like you got yeah you just feel more mentally locked in then it makes you better in every aspect of your life that's why I don't I really don't get people who don't work out like just get through that initial two weeks of it sucking and then just do it like everything in your life gets better like woman will like you more like if you have a partner like sex will be better like you'll be

able to focus more. You'll make more money. Like what? It starts in there. It's really tough to just get into. It's tough to get into for people. But I think it clicks. It just clicks for, like for me, it just clicked. Because I was trying to do it for so long. And I'd just be in and out, in and out. And then one day you kind of just, it's like a light switch. You got to have locked in friends. Dude, you guys have Brad. That's key. Shout out Brad. Which one, Crout? Yeah, Crout. Yeah, he's good. I mean, Bradley Martin, of course. But Brad Crout, he gets me fired up, bro. Crout's locked in. Yeah, I mean, it's all who you surround yourself with, too.

That's facts. And what's, what's, what? What's like next though? Like you just ran 100 miles. I feel like after that. It's like, you know, we talked about this. What?

Oh, the canoe? Yeah, well, we'll tell everybody what you want to do. I want to canoe from L.A. to Hawaii. Okay.

If we did that, would you do it with us? I would be down for something like that. Or maybe we do something a little shorter. But nobody's canoed from L.A. to Hawaii. Like, what if we did Miami to the Bahamas?

That would actually be kind of sick. But what kind of, what type of canoe are we talking about? Just like a normal asses. That's not even like fitness base. That's like, Yeah, Stani, we're talking like... We gotta live with pirates for six months or something.

He ran like 100 miles. You're talking about, like, getting lost in the Bermuda triangle with me on a fucking canoe. I'm not doing something legendary, bro. I mean, that's pretty sick. Yeah. I mean, honestly, I'm done. Let's go, bro. There we go.

Okay, Stani and I don't know. We're going to be on a canoe. Miami to Bimini, I think it would maybe take us... He won't do it, though. It's a cop-out. No, I can talk to some experts. My buddy, that same dude, the big wave server, paddled from Lahina to Maui or La Havana to Oahu. Like, from an island in Hawaii to...

another island on a surfboard with just a paddle no nothing bro just his hands yeah it's called the the alahina do wahu challenge or whatever it is i mean people have done some nuts shit how long it took so long bro like nine hours 10 hours maybe longer it's so good there's tiger sharks there's like a bunch people doing it it's like a race you guys know i've been trying to be more healthy recently if you've been following me something that i take in my daily routine every day is ag1 i'll put it in my morning smoothie honestly with some other stuff too, but it literally just has everything you need. This really just helped me when I'm traveling, stay healthy, keep my immune system strong, and keep me feeling good. And AG1 is basically designed to fill in the gaps with supplements

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What do you think is another crazy fitness challenge? How did you find the time to train to run, bro? I completely dedicated myself to it. Yeah, because when my buddy was training for it, like, you were probably doing the same thing where he's like, this week I need to do 40 miles or whatever. You know, this week I need to do this many miles. I mean, it started as 50 and it went up to 105. Whoa.

72 days we started. That's wild. Yeah. There's just no time for anything else. Dude, you know, the funny thing with training jihitsu is my buddies tried to get me into running and it's like, bro, like, I'm in like the leglock game now. Like, my shit's always tweet, dude. Like, I always have a little tweak.

Like, when you train hard. We're sweating in there. Yeah. We're going. It's good cardio. I did, you just sit with him, and it fucked up my knee one day. Because we're doing drills, and he's tossing me down like 10 times in a row and shit. And I'm landing on my hands and knees.

I'm like, this is probably not a good idea during a hundred. You do get less injured once you reach, like, this sort of level, like, maybe like blue belt and above. When you're in there for a minute, like, a couple months. You get less injured. Yeah. You'll start to know what's good. For sure. Obviously, yeah.

But yeah, there's always little tweaks and shit on like my knees, like somebody heel hook in me. When I first start, I was getting sore like in weird spots. Oh, 100%. Yeah. Yeah. I also want to do like a, not like a Mount Everest, but like a smaller mountain. If you want to climb Mount Shasta with me, I could arrange it the summer. My buddy climbs Mount Shasta.

What's in the summer? Yeah, my buddy climbs Mount Shasta like every year. What's that? It's a mountain up in Northern California. It's one of the tallest mountains on the West Coast. Is it the tallest? It's one of the tallest mountains on the West Coast. Like, is it a hike or is it like a free fall climbing?

Part of it's a hike. And then it's a hike. into like you are yeah i don't fuck with ice picking like i don't fuck with that you just said you want to climb a mountain bro i thought you just want to go to height you this one's like terrain you can just walk you just want to go to high you this one wants to do run you can do run you can't yeah you want to run you can you with a bunch of chicks and like you know what these my favorite videos and i'll never understand this i was watching this i think yesterday these guys that go in these really tight caves oh they can barely breathe bro i don't fuck with that

where the things like right at all that like i was thinking trying to do a whole hell week would be crazy. That would be pretty sick. Well, like Navy SEAL style. I did one day of seal training. I honestly think it was harder than 100 miles. Dude, that stuff is brutal in a way. It was fucked. Yeah, one of my buddies is like Navy search and rescue right now, Thor Squatch. He's the gnarliest, dude. Like, you can just tell. Like, yeah, but I don't know. I like like sort of the ocean stuff. Like my like fitness goals or whatever is like I want to surf like bigger waves and then I want to get into spear fishing. Like I don't know. Something about that seems so fun to me. I've been a few times and I like it. It's dope.

But it's just all about you just find cool shit that, like, is healthy and you just do it. Like, bro, like, it's literally, I think, like, the meaning of life. Like, that's, like, what drives me in life. It's just fun, dude. Like, it's so fun. And people don't have that. I, that's why I try to spread and preach, like, this message of, like, you do actual fun shit. It's great.

I like it. You ever been ice fishing? Ice fishing, no, I'd be down for that, though. That'd be cool. I'd be down for that. Yeah, it's also, uh, what's Harold and Kumar. Oh, yeah. You remember that?

You've been ice fishing. It's fucking exhilarated. You know what you don't talking about? We honestly should go live up in like the igloos and shit. If that exists. See, that's what I'm talking about. That's some thrill. I like the thrill seeking.

Do you guys ski or snowboard or what? I could ski. I grew up in Colorado. Oh, nice. Okay. So you're a snow guy. Yeah, and I did mountain biking in the summer. I used to be way more outdoors.

He fly fishing too. And then what happened? I moved to L.A. Yeah, dude. And then shit gets dark. Yeah, yeah. That was man. You got to move to San Diego.

I always try to pitch people on moving to San Diego. It's beautiful out there. What's a fun way that, the most fun way you think for someone who wants to get into cardio mountain biking is an amazing one you can almost mountain bike anywhere in the united states um surfing you're right it's like not accessible for a lot of people but like bro surfing is the most fun thing to do i think on planet earth honestly and you wear like a calorie burner tracker i don't but like i've seen people where there's when they surf they burn a shitload of calories especially when the waves are like

kind of pumping hundreds and hundreds of calories you're talking like 700 calorie thousand calorie people were it in jihitsu thousand calorie days like it's it's pretty wild it's hard work it gets hot bro yeah what do you think of like moving a lot uh like clav and all the shit he preaches like the bone smashing and stuff like that i have like empathy for clav because when i was like 19 20 i was posting some throwback photos i was kind of like a wild boy like i just posted a thing like he got arrested for having a fake id and people were like clowning him and he had like probably some drugs in his pocket or whatever and it's like i can't go hard on that because it's like bro when i was 19 i was arrested for a fake ID. So I can't like sit here. Everyone had a fake. Exactly. It's like so I can't really sit here

and judge where it's like okay if I was young and I got that famous like you know, would I be doing a perfect, would I be living a perfect life? No. So I have like empathy firm. Now as far as like what he talks about, I think he starts with like a thing that everyone agrees with, which is looks are very important, especially if you're a young man. It's going to massively influence the way that you interface with the world and interface with life. And there's things you can do to improve your looks where it gets a little wild as like the bone smashing stuff, the surgery, hormones from a young age. Now, to be fair to him, like, if you actually listen to him and talk about hormones from a young age, he's not really recommending it to people. He says people are too stupid to do what I did. They're going to mess themselves up.

But he goes, I did testosterone age 14, and I think it benefited me. I think that's, yeah, I think that's bad advice. I think you can raise your testosterone to above 1,000 nanograms per deciliter, just optimizing normal shit as a teenager. And I just worry about how self-conscious all this stuff is going to make people, especially in the social media age. And then further than that, while looks are very,

very important, I think dudes will be able to get girls and have success romantically, even if they aren't a perfect looking human being. Like, that's not the whole picture when it comes to like what females want. It's a big piece. of it.

Look at us, right? Yeah, we never fucking... You guys are pretty good looking. But yeah, I mean, like, you know, like, it's like... No, I'm saying we could be better looking, but we're still... We're doing decent. For sure. But then, this community kind of has a...

An out for everything. Will they'll be like, well, your status maxed. Yeah. You know, like, I was arguing about my... Well, status does matter a lot, for sure. It does. If I didn't have... If I was just back in Canada right now, I'd be fucked.

I'd be fucked for sure. If I didn't have milk or some shit... Dude, but then it's like... Then it's like, you figure it out. Like maybe if you're like a six five giga chat, you would just be in Canada right now slaying, but you'd be like not doing much with your life. Like I think some personality gets like formed. Like I was talking to him about like I was like, you know, I'm short. Stani can identify.

You do develop personality through that. Like there's no way that you don't. And like, you know, if everybody's just going to go get height surgery or whatever and be like six four and not be able to walk, it's like in my mind that would affect how. too, like, let's say you get to know a chick and you've gotten leg surgery and you can't run or whatever, but you're like six two now. At some point, let's say you really want to, like, what's that in goal? You want to like meet a really good woman and marry her, right? Yeah. You're going to have to now like divulge to this woman like, yeah, I was like so self-conscious to my height that like I broke my legs in a few places and went to China and did the surgery wherever they do it. And that's why I won't

be able to run, won't be able to go on jogs with you, honey. But I'm like six to like, I don't know, man I would rather just be short and you know just I don't know that's how I feel I'm but yeah short funny guys clean up yeah they do clean up Steady cleans up dude let's go I haven't seen it in a while but I got a girl I hear stories about it I got a girl yeah nice yeah when you want to get married and have kids and you know I've been thinking about it recently for real yeah settling down not having kids but yeah getting married you want to get married yeah I'm just so do you want to have kids I never asked you that yeah maybe not right now. I don't think it's smart. I think you, I think the, no, not right now. I'm saying just any

adventure. Yeah, I think so. And I think you can agree with this as a father. Like, I don't have kids. I think we're two kids. I thought of two kids. I thought there was a stream that said you had kids. No, there's probably some clip. You guys know the clips. Like, he just said it so confidently. I was like, should I just go with this right now? We still don't research on full-sum pod. No, he probably, you know, shout about all the clippers out there. Explain this. Explain this. There's a stream clip of you saying I have kids at home. Bro, no. Okay, well, there's something about you saying you had kids.

I thought you were a father, my fault. But you're married. Yeah, I'm married. I'm going to have kids. I'm definitely going to have kids. Probably the next year or two. Like, my wife and I get, like, I have, like, the baby books I'm reading. Like, we're going to have kids, for sure.

But what I was saying is I think you got to wait until you're ready to actually be a good father. Of course. Oh, 100%, bro. I was like, I need to, like, get, like, the nice house in, like, San Diego area, like, dial everything in, get, like, my routine styled in, like, you know, like, make certain amount of money. then like then I'm ready to have kids. On the health side of things, I'm doing like all these deep like lab tests.

I'm like having my wife do like these like great lab tests you can do. If you have money, it's fucking unaffordable. Let's be real. But like, yeah, you're gonna really dial in some things with like, just like the health of pregnancy and stuff.

So yeah, it's cool. I'm excited to have kids, man. I'm at that point. I'm at two or three. Yeah. Yeah.

I'm not trying to do one of these. What if, what if you came home one time and your wife was stressed out and she was outside smoking a vape? A vape? I mean, She just would never vape. Okay, but what if she did?

Would you allow her back in the home? Yes, I would allow her back in the home. This is a woman I love. I would be concerned about her. Lock her out. Well, this takes me to my next question. This guy's a great interview. I love this.

Hopefully you pay this guy for this podcast, dude. This is great. It's good. With Brian Johnson, who's another expert. Yeah. And you guys don't see eye on a lot of things.

How do people... That's true. Yeah, I think we see out of a lot of things. He doesn't sleep with his wife and it's the same bed. That's low. crazy bro because he's trying he's trying to sleep max so for sleep maxing you probably want to I get amazing sleep in my bed with my wife okay it sucks sleeping in the same bed with a chick

when you're not super comfortable with her yet but after you get I agree I agree with that like I'm sure I like turn over to your own side and yeah that's it if I like rewinded like you know the first like times I like spent nights on my wife sure my sleep probably was optimized that's also like a fun part of like life like you know there's some you know that's some you know things changes we make you know but yeah like you were saying let me say that so back to that point then how many people come at you and say hey you're full of shit for this part or you're just trying to sell this and how do you react to those guys oh there's always those people bro so like you know like the biggest thing like i do is i like basically protest and talk a lot of shit about fast food

i talk shit about crumble i talk shit about the red 40 they put in our food and naysayers will be like there's no studies that red 40 is bad for us like you should just you know let People drink red 40s are good dude. They're not good. I love I love chips. I'm sorry to say that but I just like you're eating red 40 my thing is like this is I went viral as fuck for the red 40 shit years ago like it went so viral like in different languages and shit you know you guys notice I'm so happy that that happened because it raises awareness about food it got millions of people thinking wait what the fuck is in my food why is red 40 in my food it's just a red food die that does nothing and makes it bright red this is stupid what's going on here and it gets people. thinking about that and that's why I've inspired millions of people to be healthy so what does red 40 do to you red 40 does not it just is a artificial food die the worry about it is when you look up red 40 and these artificial food dies and benzene contamination benzene is a known carcinogen and in the manufacturing process of those food dyes they can be contaminated with benzene so that's why i'm like i'm i don't want to eat that shit you're absolutely right there i've seen everyone speaks bad

about red 40 i'm pretty sure like it was a Coca-Cola or someone or something a huge product i think trump passed that they had to remove it yeah yeah rfk is doing a lot of of stuff like trying to get the artificial food dies out people then give him shit and say there's you know more important stuff to focus on with health which for sure there is but it's like sometimes when you're a politician's like what can you do like you could put pressure on these food companies to remove these food dyes and have the FDA ban them i think it's a step in the right direction personally what do you think of what he's doing as a whole rfk i'm a fan of it and people give him shit but it's like i've never seen anybody talk this much about health on a

broad scale that's what we need we need we need we need more health education getting people inspired to be healthy. You can nitpick this little thing with RFK, like him and Saladena are doing this thing to put like pull-up bars and airports. And of course, the post goes viral and they're like, who's gonna do pull-ups in the airport? There's bigger problems in this. It's like... I'd fucking crank pull-ups in the airport. Oh, it's a fuck. I love, like,

hanging from a pull-up bar, decompress from my back. This is a step... There's probably a line for that shit. It's, it's a culture. It's a culture change. You've got a fast pass. Yeah, yeah. No, there's like a huge line for it. Yeah. Well, that's thing, if there's a huge line for it in the United States, we'd have a fucking locked-in country. Dimms in the airport would be...

It would be so sick. We have a layover. It's a culture change, bro. A lot of times when you look at like, why are the Japanese people so healthy? It's a culture thing. And we need to change that in the United States of America. So when people give RFK hate,

I get the... They're talking about a particular issue. This... Okay, gotcha. Okay, whatever. Overall, I haven't seen anybody push health more than he has on, like, a big skill in the United States, so I'm a fan of it.

Yeah, you really don't see that many, like, fat Japanese or Asian. No, they're one of the healthiest populations, and it's just, again, culture-wise. Like, there's the blue zones, you know, and a lot of that is just, like, they walk a lot. What do they do? Because they eat a lot of rice, right? You don't, are they in the gym all the time?

Like, what are they doing? They're just active. Yeah, for the Vietnamese people. Walking around. Like, how do you swear by, like, you really think everybody out there 10K steps a day? Bro, you need to, yeah, you need to walk more 100%. Like, that's we're built to walk, you know?

Yeah, we're 100% like built to move like that. The thing about the Japanese people is there's this group in Okinaw which they're healthier than other Japanese people. And they have those like purple potatoes as their carb source. They still eat rice. But like those. So it's like, okay, now this whole population has like this antioxidant polyphenol rich carb source, which from those purple Japanese potatoes.

Yeah. So little things like that. Then you can just steal stuff from different cultures. Right. Like all the Maasai people are all jacked naturally. Like jacked. What do they do? They're drinking dairy from their cows.

They eat meat. They drink blood and shit. You don't have to do that. But like, okay, let me borrow some aspects of that. These people in the Amazon are really. healthy. It's dope. Then you just feel fucking great. How healthy is that sport for you that's a new sport where two guys just start on each

side and they run at each other and it's just whoever falls over? That's going to kill you. It's going to kill somebody. It's awful. How does that exist, bro? It's so bad. It's so hard to watch. I think it's in Australia maybe. Yeah, but I'd be watching it on Instagram Reels. I watch Power Slap. I went if a reel pops up, it's hard to, you know, scroll past.

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Defending themselves, I think jiu-suits is the best. Jiu-Jitsu is great. As far as ever, yeah. And so what's going to happen to people? They're going to go to a boxing. This happens millions of people across the United States. They go to a boxing class. They love it. It's fun. You hit the pads. You hit the thing. Now you want to get good at this thing. that you just started, right? That's natural progression.

So now you're sparring with people. And you just work at, like, you know, an insurance company, and now you're sparring. Then you get a little better. Now you're sparring hard. And the only way to actually get better at that sport is spar hard. You're going to get hit in the head. People get addicted. They go a few times a week.

It's not good. If you're going to get paid to box or you, like, love it. Great. Go for it. I'm not for, like, being, you know, the posification of America. Like, go do your shit, but at least know the risks. I'm done with that sparring shit. You were sparring?

Yeah, go away to pour you. Are you sparring with Tuporia? I think I saw that clip actually. It's part of God, dude. I felt different after that. Yeah, you got rocked. Fucks you up when you get into that. You don't really think about it in that moment.

You know, when you're live streaming, it's just like, we didn't know we were going to spar with them. Yeah. You want to bring entertainment. We just said we want to work out. And then obviously, they want to fucking punch us in the face. Yeah, that shit's rough, bro.

I don't, I don't fuck with that shit. The cool thing about Jiu-Ditsu is all go. I've just trained Michael Morales, you know? And it's like, I'm going to get fucked up, but I'm going to be fine, bro. too and yeah he's letting me work the poor you really rocked us harder though yeah was more going easy on us but he was still socked me but it was like 30% maybe to pouria had some rage to take out so bless his soul well you told him we're Islam fans too i told him you were an

islam you talked briefly in the beginning about this and i you you were hating on john reed because you said there were too many gay guys there but uh that's a crazy by the way no i actually think john reed john dude john read whatever's street that is in West Hollywood is the gayest gym on the planet. But the machines are so good that I'm still choosing to go to that gym because the machines are so fire. These guys just invited me to go lift. The machines were very good. They're pretty good. Like compared to going to Equinox. Yeah. No, it was valid. But dude, that gym's insane. Gay dudes stay in shape. That's what I was going to say. They do. They have the best hygiene and you said this. Like, I really take care of their skin.

What do you like I think a lot of guys are actually curious and they're afraid to say it and I'll say it for you but dude what do you do for like your skin care? Oh, I'm all into the skincare stuff. So like I sell and I'm a huge proponent of beef tallow skin and it shocks people at first because they're like it's rubbing beef fat on your skin. This is the original skincare and beef tallow is cracked for skin health. It's noncommodogenic. It's super moistizing. There's ingredients in there like beef tallow has stearic acid naturally in it. And if you look at a lot of expensive skincare products, they have stearic. It's acid in the expensive skincare products. So like these cosmetic companies know and beef tall is super affordable. You only need a tiny little bit. It doesn't clog your pores at all. It gives you this beautiful glow. It's amazing. You put on your face? Yeah. Like before bed or when? I do it after I shower. So once in the morning, once in the evening, right? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, no, it's in my bag. Do you have any? Yeah. You got to send us. We make like a beef tallow lip bomb. Beef tallow beeswax lip balm. And it's crazy because now you have companies doing synthetic beeswax, lip bombs.

It's cooked, bro. And a lot of skin care products, like, dry your skin out and create this vicious cycle of your drying your skin out so your body overproduces sebum to sort of, like, you know, like adapt. And then you have oily skin. And it creates this dumb-ass cycle. I think the modern dermatology shit is such a scam. It's crazy. The beef stuff can help with acne? Yeah, beef tallow helps with acne so much. Yeah, lip balm, no worries. That's fun. Boom. So, yeah, this is like beef tallow, beeswax, and organic experiment right here. Oh, fuck yeah. Dude, and we sell these for a better price than Burt's B's, too,

which is like, Bert Spies has four different types of seed oils now. There's more in there, yeah? Yeah, there's four in there. Okay, so, I mean, I see two products, two, two health people that have the most TikTok shop products. It's your electrolytes. Yeah, my electrodes go off. For one reason, I see fucking Joey Swoles.

Oh, yeah? Hot sauces every day. I have some of my house. You have the electrolytes. Oh, yeah, the electrolytes. The electrolytes are the most popular product, and I think it's because, like, I always say, like, if you're training hard, you should take electrolytes.

If you're not working out hard, you don't need electrolytes. It's honest truth. I don't think a lot of people would sit here and say that trying to sell electrolytes, but I don't give a fuck. It's like the truth. But if you wake up in the morning and you're someone who works out and you start your day with a scoop of electrolytes, your day is going to change. You're going to feel so much better. Thousand milligrams.

Yeah, 1,000 milligrams sodium, 300 milligrams of potassium and 60 milligrams of magnesium. We threw a little bit of calcium glycinate in the new formula because you do sweat out some calcium. They're just fire, bro. Like salt is good for you. I love being dialed, bro. Yeah. You don't have to answer this, but I'm here. What's your biggest month on TikTok shop?

Is it crazy? Oh, dude, TikTok shop is not a big revenue source for us. They push the fuck out of your electronics. Yeah, they push Amazon's or king, bro. We do millions a month on Amazon's, well, so. From electrolytes? From just everything. Dude, congrats.

Thank you, bro. Thank you. This is random, but, so what made you come up the name, Santa Cruz? Like, where that come about? Dude, I started the company when I lived in Santa Cruz. I never, not. I, yeah. Yeah, I started the company when I lived in Santa Cruz, California.

I went to UC Santa Cruz, and I started. It's really apartment with my buddy that I've known since I was young. We started this company and it just has grown and grown and grown. It's crazy, bro. It's really a blessing. And it's fun, man. We have so much, you guys know this. You're doing the same shit and just in a different way.

Like it's just fun building shit with like people you've known since you were young. And you just put good shit out. Like we just like, we ran the company different where we're not trying to like, oh, let's raise a bunch of investor money. Because with health companies, bro, investors cook it. Because it's- They just want to make money too. It's bro, it's literally just like anti-health. Because, like, you would sit there with people and they'd be like, no, like, let's just put these ingredients in there.

We did a survey. People won't care. And you'll be able to make more money. And if I had a bunch of investors on my board, I would get just outvoted. And it would be shit products. That's what it is. Yep. You see that a lot with health products.

They just get, ugh. Even like, what about like a setafil lotion, face lotion? Yeah, I worry about a lot of the paribins and thallates and synthetic preservatives and a lot of those cosmetic products. I'm good. I'm good off that. Bubble boy. Yeah, the guy in the bubble. Was that Jake Gyllenha?

I don't know who that was. We saw James Franco earlier upstairs. That was cool. Oh, really? Yeah, shout out James Franco. Yeah, it was random. But yeah, no, I'm like bubble boy. Because you're super cautious.

You notice immediately sit on the couch. I'm definitely not bubble boy. No. I'm just saying like, no, I am mad cautious. Like my friends will like, you know, roast me and stuff. But like, what, it's not out of a place of fear. It's out of a place of knowledge and respect for myself and, like, care. And I just want to feel good.

And so it's like, I'll like roast something. Like if I'm like, it's like a joke. Like this couch is like polyester. I don't get the fuck that I'm sitting in this thing right now. That's not even like an actual thought. It's like a joke. But like if I owned this place, I'd probably change the couch out. What's your craziest thing in your home that most people don't have?

Oh, we have like a, I mean, our rug is like Indian wool. We have like a real leather, all of stained leather couch that's like, fill my wife dolled all that shit in for me. And yeah, it's like that's a lot of money. It's like couch is like 10 bands. Dude, there's all. this stuff, everyone has, not everyone has access to, but red light, I agree with. I think, I personally never believed in IVs. I think it's bullshit. I think you spend $300 when you could just take, drink water, take electric. Yeah, Ives just hydrate quicker. You're fine. But just drink some

electrolytes. Coconut water's great. Like, you're going to get hydrated up. But yeah, there's a lot of things that people can do that are like under 100 bucks that do level up their health. The blue light blockers are cracked. Just helps you sleep better. Yes, bro. You'll notice it. Like, if you just like wear them in the evening when you're around like light like how long before bed i like wearing them like a few so if i'm going to turn the tv pretty much when you get home and you're winding down yeah so after sunset theoretically how we evolved for millions of years there wasn't light after that bro and they went to bed at that time fire amidst a different wavelength of light it emits more red light and also like fire this dude is talking about like the lumens which is like how bright the light is from fire if you have a campfire

right here then you walk 10 feet that way into the woods it's dark as fuck if you have this light on pointing that way it's going to be like completely illuminated. So it's like a different type of light. The fire help to wind them down. Yeah, yeah, fire will help wind you down. And like so now you just need to like imitate this stuff. You can't outrun our deep ingrained biological reward mechanisms. You can't outrun that shit.

And people try to outrun that shit all the time. That's what most young men are doing. I'm just not going to sleep. Well, I'm just going to eat this weird fucking random food that was invented like 20 years ago. I'm not going to exercise, even though my body is built to exercise. I'm not going to have like community and friends and family and get son. And then they're like, why do I feel bad? Let me take a fucking antidepressant.

Oh, I have anxiety now. Let me take Xanax. And then you just go down a worst rabbit hole. And you're cooked. And so many people are in that loop. It's fucking crazy. Well said. Would you ever try to adapt something?

I know you're always probably thinking about it. But let's just say, for instance, because I know a lot of people that are vegan, like athletes, and they swear by it. Would you ever just try it just to see if it could improve your health in any way? Would I go vegan? Just try to see if it could. No, I wouldn't. People have been like, oh, like, do like supersized meat McDonald's for like 30 days to show it would be or go vegan. and to see I'm good off that.

I think it's pretty clear that like getting good animal protein in along with a balanced diet, fruits, vegetables, all that good shit is the way to go. Yeah. Dude, supersized me for a stream would be crazy. Bro, well, the guy who did supersize me. I go viral. Passed away. Oh, he did?

From what? He died of cancer. The guy who did supersize me. I wouldn't want to do that, bro. You want to eat 30 days of McDonald's? No, I couldn't do that. Bro. It would be crazy.

Gabe, what does that do you? 30 days of McDonald's. I know this full of, like. McDonald's. I love McDonald's. You love McDonald's. He's, he's improved a lot, bro. Year and a half. Four years ago, we, this full, he used to eat canes every single day. So now he's locked in. Yeah. I love that.

When we used to go to Starbucks to get our coffees, he would get a frappuccino. Oh, yeah, that's cooked. Yeah, the, the pumps. With cream. Yeah, that's like 400 right there. You're logging in. That's like a thousand, bro. I love it. I love it, man. Yeah, no, that would be cooked. A super size me. I think one of these, there's nutrition people out there that go like, oh, like, there's nothing inherently wrong with McDonald's. You just got to hit your right calories, hit your right macros. So actually, I think a nutritionist out there, if they want to try that, all pay for all the McDonald's trash food.

Eat McDonald's for 30 days straight. Fitted in your calories and macros, there's a challenge out there to those nutritionists. See how you fucking feel. They're not going to feel good. Hell, no. Where can everyone find your products? Santa Cruz Paleo on Amazon is where people can find our stuff or our website, Santa CruzPaleo.com.

And yeah, as I always say, don't start with supplements, get good sleep, eat. eat well, find a few hobbies that you fucking like. And if your boys aren't into hobbies like that, pull them into that. Be like, yo, I just bought everybody mountain bikes if you can do that. You know, do something. Go shoot hoops, get the fuck outside and lock in. Can you get me a list of shit to my crib? Tell me step up.

Yeah, I want all your products. I love the protein too. Let's go. Yeah, the protein's fire. Anything else you think I should implement. I mean, dude, you're pretty fucking a lot. But no, I'm not taking magnesium right now. I'm not doing blue light.

Oh, you need to be taking magnesium. You probably need to take some vitamin D because you're traveling so much and like if you're in some of those cold environments and I'll get to our protein bars because for traveling like when we launch those protein bars bro that's just because the thing is people panic and they go I don't I'm so fucking hungry and you're at an airport and you're like I'm gonna eat some bullshit and if you just have like one of those protein bars like dude you're not gonna eat bullshit what's the difference between your protein and like just like any of those companies I could name the standard ones like with the protein bro so like vanilla

vanilla oatmeal cookie yes they taste oh is yours not flavored so no it is a bit but But it tastes very sugary, right? The problem with those is, I mean, the number one thing actually is I'm really not a fan of all these gums. If anybody looks at their protein right now, there'll be xanthin gum, gel and gum, guar gum, guar gum, carcinan. Those really mess with people's guts. So, like... Is it blow-you-you-you-think a little bit? Oh, dude, so bloated.

There's studies showing caraginan makes people bloated and shit. So, like, I have no gums in our protein powder at all. And then, yeah, like you're saying, we don't have the artificial flavors. sucralosis and everything now it is, and those Celsius as you drink. and I'm not a fan of sucralose, there's a study showing in healthy adults that drinking sucralose, even like half the amount sometimes that's in like one of those popular drinks, it lowers their acidophilus in their gut. So now you're cooking your beneficial gut microbiome by drinking sucralose. And then it's just like, oh, you drink one of the Celsius that is sucralose.

And then you drink a protein shake with sucralose later in the day. It's like... And what does it do to you? Well, sucralose lowers the amount of beneficial bacteria in your gut. And if you're not like really focusing on replacing that with like good like yogurt, and like probiotic foods, then you're going to start to get basically gut dysbiosis. And yeah, you're going to get bloating. You're going to get skin issues. It's like you're fucked.

How about Coke Zero? Yeah, so Coke Zero is Aspartame. I love Coke Zero. But let's listen. Listen, this is my thing, though. Anything that just tastes too good is it's not good for you. It can't be. Oh, man.

So I have like this weird thing with diet sodas where I am against aspartame, a spritame, I'm not a fan of them, okay? but I can't hate on them too hard because I do these videos, bro, going up to people, giving them $100 to quit soda, like regular soda, like corn syrup filled. Every human being agrees that drinking a 48 gram corn syrup soda is bad for you, okay? But some of these people, bro, will be like, I quit the corn syrup soda and I'm doing diet soda. They will lose weight. Yeah.

So I can't overly hate on it. I have concerns about the artificial sweeteners, but there's never been, like, a really good study. A Coke zero's chilling diet Coke. I personally wouldn't drink it, but it's definitely not. on my top things. Is there a difference between Coke Zero and Diet Coke? Sometimes we'll use different artificial sweeteners. So, like, it'll be aspartame one, then acylphan potassium, sometimes and another one.

Yeah, that's usually, like, the difference. So good. Then you're for the boys, but do you ever, like, how focused are you on, like, women's health, too? I know a lot about women's health. A lot of the stuff's just the same. Like, most of the stuff we talked about. Yeah, I just think girls that, like, fucking take Vivance and shit, so they focus, but it's so they don't eat and shit like that.

Yeah, I think there's, like, this, yeah, 100% for it. I've called them out. Like, that's true. Oh, every single girl out there needs a fucking five minutes for script. No, no, I think with girls,

there's this big thing of like, they all think they have, like, anxiety and stuff like that. And it's like, I think, yeah, women need to lock in just like men,

like, bro, like develop a meditation routine, like lift weights. Like, yeah, girls need to be locked in too. It's a lot of the same shit, though. Yeah,

dude, girls are up out here, bro. There was a chick that walked by outside of John Reed, coffee in her hand, obviously 60 grams of sugar, vape in the same hand. And it's like,

Bro, that shit's disgusting to me. Ah, dude, chicks that vape. We got to, we need it, that's an app, we need to put an end of that. I'll go on tour with you and, that's absurd. We need to fucking put an end of that. What about chicks who do 20 zins a day? I'd prefer that over a thing. I've zined with a chick.

You're like, you like, yeah, you're like, you don't mind it. I've done it with a, I know a girl that's done them. They're usually cool-ass chicks, let me tell you. But not the vapors. No. We can agree with, you know, you know, if you're chicks like, I'd rather a chick that zin's and vapes, for sure. chick that vapes is probably a little crazy

yeah yeah 100% yeah I think like honestly it's like the sex is probably fire yeah well you would know stoke boys yeah this was fun man I'm excited to even get more I'm glad you guys are on your health journey I love it I love to see it bro you guys working out and all that shit I think it's amazing do some more content

yeah you guys inspire millions of people so seeing you guys push health is just I'm gonna figure out the canoe and we're gonna do it all of us from Miami to Bimini which is the closest island of Bahamans all spearfish on the way, bro. We'll feed us, but we'll live stream it. I'm down, dude. Yes, okay.

There might be a way to do it, yeah. There is a way. I don't know if that's a fitness. I know, like, yeah, it's a survival goal at this point. I know, like, water men, like, people that do shit like that. So I'll, yeah, I'll figure out. But he was saying he wants a yacht, like, right behind us. I just were he's just going to leave.

You did to that. He's going to leave and be on the yacht. He would never do that. If we have a safety follow yacht for emergency purposes, then yes. Yeah, he doesn't have a bunch of OF chicks on the yacht, you know, a couple cases of happy dads. Brendan. Oh, he's floating away.

Like, shit. I'm like, fuck. So, yeah, man, locked in. But yeah, thank you, boys for having me. Thank you. Thank you. Westwood One Sports Talk. Start for a day with Drake C. Toll.

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