FULL SEND PODCAST - Sean Hannity | Ep. 153

Episode Date: April 3, 2025

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All right, guys, we've got a special episode today. We've been trying to set this up for a while, one of the legends of the game. Someone I look up to, someone that inspires me. We got Sean Hannity. What's up, man? How are we doing? First of all, congratulations on all your success. Thank you.

I mean, let's see. Dana, White, Elon, Trump, and then you stuck with me. There's something wrong with that picture. Stephen A. Yeah, a lot of cool people. That's what I love about the pot is we just get to sit down with, like, cool people like you, get free wisdom. You can't complain. So the person that made me aware of how big and successful you are, now I'm fully aware of it.

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We'll go crack one. Absolutely. See? Cracking one with Sean Hannity. Boom. Cheers. Salute. I like it over ice. I mean, that is so awesome.

It's fun, yeah. We started it like three years ago. Yeah. So we were always doing like drinking in our videos and stuff. So I always knew there was going to be an opportunity to make money in the alcohol space. And like we tried to get a deal with Corona because that's what we were kind of like reping at the time. Right. But they just never wanted to do a deal because of the liability.

Now that I'm in the alcohol industry, I kind of understand why they couldn't work with us. Sure. But we just said, fuck it. Let's just start it ourselves and we never look back. This is what I love. I love people and kind of, this is a big part of my life. I love people that start with nothing and build something. You jumped off the high board every step of the way because I'm pretty aware of your career, right?

Now you have one of the biggest podcasts in the country. And I just love success. Well, that's your story too. That's what I, I know you talk about politics too, but I really wanted to get your come up and your story because it's It's been, you've been on the air 28 years? No, longer. This is my 29th year of Fox. 29th.

But, okay, what year were you born? 94. 94. I started in radio in 1987. Holy shit. Holy shit. So I wasn't even a thought. You know what that means?

That means I'm really old compared to you. You look good, though. I'm really into health, wellness, fitness, nutrition now. I'm like a lunatic. All right, guys, we have an epic pod today. One of the legends of the game, Sean Hannity. Before we get into it, if you guys have not tried to, out the prize picks app you guys got to try it out i have tried every single app when it comes to firing on

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Typical day I get up. I do a workout. Mixed martial arts is a big part of it, boxing, a lot of core sit-ups, push-ups, situational self-defense, kind of an eclectic blend of arts, Krav Maga, Kempo, Japanese Jiu-Jitsu, just situational street fighting, sticks, blades, firearms, we work with all of it, yeah. I'm not in an art where I'm trying to get a black belt. I kind of gave up on the belt system.

Yeah. I do it for fitness, number one. to stay in good shape and stay strong. I also lift, but I don't lift heavyweight. I'm in the best shape of my life at my age. Yeah, you're looking toned up. Well, for an old guy, yeah, I'm doing okay, you know. And it gives you energy and it gives me focus.

And I just dedicate that hour and a half, which is really hard for me to do with my busy schedule. And in the end, I'm always glad I did it, but it's hard to do. And first thing in the morning, it just gets you. First thing in the morning. I feel sluggish if I don't work out, like, first thing in the morning, too. Like, you just, you don't feel good, you know what I mean? And it becomes, like, an addiction.

Definitely a dopamine factor to it, no doubt about it. Yeah. I interviewed Gary Brecker, he was sitting in your chair right there. He's a good friend of mine, too. Do you like Brecker? Yeah, I like him, too. Yeah, he's the best guy. She is all over me to get rid of my nicotine habit.

So that has to go away. What do you do? Smoke or? I do. I given that up, and now I'm moving to, like, Zinn and all these other. I just got, I got Zins too. What do you got? I got sin, too.

Let's see. Here we go. There you go. Cheers. Here, I'm going to throw one of these in. They're pretty awesome. Yeah. I have 100 days, or Jillian Michaels.

You ever watch her on The Biggest Loser? She's going to kick my ass if I don't give up completely the vape, which I still, you know, take a... I feel like Zins are a good alternative, though. It's a great alternative, you know. And there are other, I'm trying other brands out there and, you know, see which one I like the most. So far, Wintergreen is in. Yeah. So you wake up in the morning, work out, and then what?

So the rest of my day is just dialed into studying. And I read and read and read and read and read. And really, the key to success, I think, is working hard. I've always known on my career that I'm not the funniest. I'm not the smartest. I'm not the most talented. But I was never going to let anybody outwork me. and it's really hard in this industry to achieve longevity.

And I think longevity is a big part of success. Because especially if you do it the traditional way, if I was starting out in media today, I would not follow the path that I followed. I would follow your path. And that is do a really good show, reach for the stars, get big people, bring in Donald Trump, Elon Musk,

and White, Stephen A. Smith, and people like that, find alternative products to sell, build off that brand, and I would definitely do it that way. When I started, there were only like 200 talk radio stations in the country, or news talk stations. I'm now on 750, which is the largest in the country. I'm pretty, you know, I'm happy about that. But then we also put it on an audio podcast then we also put it distributed everywhere after yeah it's it's everywhere yeah and what four million viewers a night right around that on tv yes

on on radio we're over 25 26 million when you add it all together because we also podcast it it's on serious xm it's it's pretty much everywhere so i don't ever think about the reach i just think about every day doing the best show i can do and bringing it to my audience and making it compelling and interesting and entertaining news and information you're not going to get from the corrupt abusively biased legacy media that i argued died on november 5th and they got their asses kicked and they threw everything that they had at your friend donald trump everything i think they died before but that was just the official funeral that was all right i'll take you i think they were dead

a long time ago but that was the funeral but they tried everything they could for all those years to this man. And what's amazing about Donald Trump, not that you're asking, is that he was facing all of these legal challenges. He put all of his chips on, boom, right in the middle of the table. And it was either the White House or I am certain they would have put him in jail. 100%. 100%. They wanted him in jail. And he did it for his country, took a bullet in the process, had another would-be assassin. He just got to admire. that intestinal fortitude, that strength, that courage, that commitment to the things that he believes in. And I've known the guy 30 years. He's a force of nature. And look what he's doing. I mean, if he is successful

at his agenda, I think it'll be the most transformational, consequential presidency in 100, 150 years. This is it. I agree. And had we lost, I think we would have lost the country. Well, I think we would have lost the world, too. It seems like what Trump's doing is just affecting the whole world now, too, which is crazy. By the way, that's what Elon Musk said. Elon must said the same thing. He goes, you're not going to be able to run off to New Zealand. There'll be no place to go.

We are the foundation. I can even see it, too, just based off, like, our own business and stuff, too, like, even just social media apps, like YouTube. Right. I mean, two years ago, we were the first podcast that Trump ever did in 2022. Dana White set that up for us. And when we did it, I don't know if you know the story, but we uploaded it. It got 12 million views and they deleted it. Who deleted YouTube?

So on the podcast, Trump says... So you were canceled. We were, yeah, they deleted the podcast. And this is only two years ago. And now, recently, so after the inauguration, I went to an actual YouTube event. Like, the CEO of YouTube was there. He's actually like a great guy, the CEO of Google. And it was inauguration event.

And in the corner, there's a TV and there's a montage of all the calls. content, including ours, that everyone did with Trump leading up to the election. So I'm like, wait a second, two years ago, you guys deleted our shit. And now you guys are here throwing a Trump party. So it's just like, I mean, I think it, but you can't complain because I think it was good for free speech. And, you know, you see what meta's doing now, I guess, too. They brought Dana White on.

They brought Dana White, which I think was great. Yeah. I actually have had private conversations. I won't reveal them with Zuckerberg. It's interesting because if you look at it. before the election, and I'm throwing them a prop here and people will criticize me for this, but long before the election, he did tell the House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jim Jordan, he wrote a letter, admitted to everything that they did. They were pressured on Hunter Biden's

laptop to kind of hold back on the story. They were pressured on COVID information that They didn't want out there. I mean, the whole country was lied to on COVID on a massive level. So can you even blame him in a sense? Like, if you're getting pressured by the government, too, I mean, I'd be a little bit scared, you know. But I guess you've got to have balls in a position like that to stand up to it. You do and you don't. I mean, at that point, they have the power to shut you down and really cause a lot of misery in your life.

But, wow, that letter was the most powerful thing I ever read. So people say, no, he's doing this because of Trump, but he did it before Trump got elected. So I give him a lot of credit for that. And then he used the Zuck Bucks in 2020. His explanation is he did it because he wanted to help during the pandemic, get people out to vote. It turned out to work more on behalf of liberal candidates. And he absolutely promised he was staying out of the 2024 election. He did keep his word on that.

In the months leading up to the 2020 election, the FBI was meeting with big tech companies on a regular basis. And they had already confirmed the authenticity of Hunter's laptop in March of 2020. So they knew it was real. And so what they were doing was pre-bunking the laptop story, which they knew would break because they knew Rudy Giuliani's attorney. Bob Costello had a copy of it and that he was going to drop it. They knew it was coming out. So the meeting monthly with all these big tech companies, to the credit of Facebook and Twitter at the time, this is before Elon bought Twitter, they, when that story broke in the New York Post, they were meeting weekly.

FBI coming to your office, meeting with you, telling you you may be a victim of Russian disinformation in the lead up to this campaign. You hear that every week for months, and then the hunter-laptop story breaks. And then they call the FBI. Is this what you've been warning us about, or is this real? The FBI knew the answer, and they wouldn't give them an answer. They didn't tell them the truth. To me, that's corruption, and hopefully they clean that up. That's crazy.

When was the first time you ever met Trump 30 years ago? You said, where did you guys meet? No, I'll tell you when I first interviewed him, I was, I had just got hired by Fox when it went on the air in 1996. Okay. I had been doing, I was a local radio guy in Atlanta, which was a really cool time. You got fired, right? Not in Atlanta, no.

I only got fired once when I first started it, and I deserved it because I was awful. I was God awful. So you got fired for performance, not because of views? Both. Both. Oh, I deserved it. Yeah. Absolutely.

It was awful. Okay. But so was everybody else on the station, so the whole station should have been cleaned out. But that was in Santa Barbara, California. Then I moved to Alabama. That was my first professional gig, 1990 to 92. I got a chance to audition in Atlanta in 92, got hired there, which worked out to be a really cool time in my life, because then New King, which was coming into power, and I was the emcee, the 90 became Speaker of the House.

Republicans had not had control of Congress for 40 years. Can you imagine that? And I was the emcee that night. It was a really cool night. And anyway, so then I got hired by Fox in 96 before they went on the air. And then I started doing late night on New York talk radio because I wanted to keep doing radio because I love radio. As you can tell, I don't shut up. And what were you talking about at that time?

Was it like politics at the time, too? I loved politics. I loved issues. I don't know what it was. When I was 10, 11, 12 years old, I would stay up late at night and listen to the pioneers of talk radio. Talk radio was not a big deal. And Rush really took it to like this huge, massive level and forged the path for all of us. And I'm very grateful to him for that because I know we follow in his footsteps.

And we miss him a lot. Rush was a genius on every level. Anyway, so Trump would call in to answer your question. I'd get him to call in. He's like, who the hell is this guy? But I say, can you just call in for like a half hour? Then he'd stay on the phone for an hour and a half. And we began a relationship, and I began to realize this guy is really smart, way smarter

than people are understanding. And then fast forward to, you know, when he's thinking about running for president, and we had a conversation privately about it. And I said, I'll never support. If you're not going to, governor as a conservative, you will never get my support. And that led to a series of meetings, late-night conversations, I mean, deep into the night, three o'clock in the morning.

And we're on the phone. And, you know, he's saying, well, why doesn't Iraq pay for our liberation of Iraq? Why don't they pay us back in oil? And I'm like, why didn't I think of that? Smart idea. We're going to, you know, risk American treasure. Why shouldn't we? And I went out pretty early for him.

And, oh, my God, I got the crap kicked out of me. Glenn Beck, Ben Shapiro. They probably spent two years on the air every day saying that I sold out, that I'm not a conservative. Wow. And meanwhile, I did my own vetting of Trump. And it was because of those conversations, I really believed in them. So you supported him in 2016 right away, right off the get-go?

Right out of pretty much right out of the... I was interested in Ted Cruz a little because I like Ted. I still like Ted. He's a personal friend of mine. But I felt Trump could win. I just saw in him an ability that he could break through and he was iconoclastic and just different. And it was the time for different. 2016, Trump and those Republican debates.

Oh. That was like... Prime Trump. I'll go back and watch some of those clips, him versus like Jeb Bush. 16 and 17? That's like prime. He was brutal. Yeah. But that's who he is.

He's just, you know, he is a fierce competitor. The guy that got up and said, fight by fight after he got shot, that's the guy I know. Because in his head, he was thinking, no way I'm going to look weak. I'm getting up. Yeah. That day was a tough day. When I saw the blood on his face, I thought they killed him. How did you hear about it at first?

I didn't hear it. I was watching it live. Oh, wow. I watched the whole thing live. And I started to get emotional because when he stood up and I saw the blood, I thought he might drop. I thought he might have been hitting the head. I'm literally feverishly calling everybody that I know that's around them. Is he okay? Is he okay?

And in a pretty short period of time, I got back, he's okay. You know, and they only got his ear. one millimeter and this guy's dead looking back what do you make of that situation like what do you think it was just negligence oh my gosh we need to get to the bottom of it because the level of lying yeah i could take a lot of things for my kids i understand you know kids they're about your age they're gonna mess up i can deal with that part but if you look me in the eye and you lie to me now i'm pissed off you know don't and so i always would so i always would say to my kids when they were young stop insulting my intelligence right and because they're never any good at it you know it's like a little

kid grabs a cookie out of the cookie jar and you know and and they have cookie all over their face and you told them not to eat the cookie and they're like did you eat the cookie no i didn't need to stop lying to me yeah so they claimed it was a that it was the slope of the roof in butler Did you see that roof? Okay, I could literally in the middle of winter watered down that roof and I used to play hockey and I skate on that roof. Yeah. All right. That's not a sloped roof.

I used to be a contractor. I fell off a sloped roof nearly two and a half stories, almost three. And I was on the two and a half story right next to a dormer and my feet gave out. It was there was sleek coming down. It wasn't good. I was putting in the last nail of the day of putting up tar paper to kind of protect the roof. And then all of a sudden my feet gave out. I threw my hammer, tried to slam it into the dormer, was unsuccessful, obviously, hit the ground.

This part of my arm is dangling. I'm like, I played hockey all these years in my life, all my friends lose their teeth. I didn't lose one. Somehow I managed, you didn't wear a mouth guard, you didn't wear one of those face masks. We barely wore helmets if we did. yeah i busted up all my teeth you know they're pretty now right because now they're perfect yeah thank god thank god i fell off a roof yeah it helps me with tv so they're blaming the slope as to why they're blaming the slope so they just lie through their frigging teeth and i don't like

being lied to and hopefully sean kern who's the new secret service director will get to the bottom of it what i also don't like is the trump international incident because i there's no excuse a number of around that Trump International course, if you're familiar with the layout of it, a number of those holes are well-known areas on the outside of the fence. It's heavily treed, and it's a known area where paparazzi would go to grab pictures or videos of Trump. Okay, they never swept the area. How do you not sweep that area knowing that the top presidential candidate is playing golf there that day. There's no excuse for it.

So I think in both instances, we've got to get to the bottom of it. But back to Butler, so Kimberly Cheathel, who was the Secret Service director at the time, said that, well, we decided it was a slope roof. Now, on an adjacent roof that had a bigger pitch, they had Secret Service agents on there. That's where the guy actually took out the would-be assassin. It had a deeper pitch, and you're telling me that's a slope roof. And then she said, she was genius. She goes, so we decided to put them inside the building. Well, that doesn't prevent somebody from getting on the roof of that building.

You should have, you know, surrounded the perimeter of the building. They didn't do that either. So it's scary. I mean, with the United States of America, we need to protect all our elected politicians. I don't give a shit if it's Obama, Biden, Trump, whoever's in office. you're elected you this is a democratic republic we've got to protect elected officials period and a sentence no ifs and they didn't do it all right guys you guys have seen me putting you on to the moon pay app for a minute now and if you haven't tried it out yet i don't know what you're doing moon pay is by

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Why do you think you and Trump have been so close all these years? 30 years. You know, you're asking me a question that I've never revealed. I don't know if I should. because nobody in the media has ever understood the nature of the relationship I have with Trump, and I really don't want to talk about it that much. I'll give you a little bit of, I'll give you a preview, if I will, which I've never talked about publicly, because nobody's really ever asked.

They just write as if they know, and they don't know. Because we have a business relationship where, okay, I've got to interview the president, and then we have a personal relationship where I consider him a close friend. And he's one of the funniest, most gregarious, generous people, charming that you'd ever meet in your entire life. I wish America knew the Donald Trump in person that I know that you met. And I know him a little deeper So we probably go a little deeper Than he is wickedly funny Wickedly I've had some off-camera moments

Oh my gosh It's hilarious hilarious Yeah I mean there are times we'll talk And we're just laughing the whole time You're just one of the guys Just cut up we're just cutting up and having fun I don't want to date this show But I had a kid rock on last night

And he was there with Dana White And Bill Maher And I got the lowdown on that meeting and apparently Bill Maher was really nervous, which is interesting. He seems like a pretty confident guy. I don't like his politics, but I think he's talented. It went really well. Could you imagine Joe Biden, Kamala Harris, Barack Obama, ever inviting Sean Hannity to the White House or you to the White House?

No chance. Never going to happen. And that's Trump. That's what makes him special. What do you think? Did they agree on anything or do they get to like anything? Yeah, they did agree on stuff. Kid Rock said they agree.

on wokeism. They agreed on securing the border. How could you not agree on securing the border? Securing the border and also how there's still some Democrats that are still pro like men and women sports, like the governor of Maine. I feel like that really lost in the election too. The Senate just had an opportunity and Democrats in the Senate, they had a chance to prevent men from playing women's sports and they voted against it. They have doubled down on dumb, dumber and spectacularly stupid. Because that's not even liberal. That's just, that's woke.

That's insane. That's just crazy. I feel like that was the main reason why they lost too, because a lot of people saw that and they're like, I don't agree with this. Here's the Democratic Party today. And tell me if I'm wrong. They champion the rights of men to play women's sports, right? They are the party that is putting the rights of people that are illegal immigrants that

didn't respect our laws, border, sovereignty over the safety of Americans. We've had dozens of Americans killed. It's not just Rachel Moran, Jocelyn Nunn Gary, Lakin Riley. I used to scroll during the campaign the list of Americans murdered, the list of Americans raped, the list of Americans that were victims of violent crime by Biden Harris, illegal immigrants. So they become the champions of the rights of illegals over the safety of Americans. They champion men's rights to play women's sports. Then they complain, it's a constitutional crisis when we discover that they spent hundreds of billions of hard-earned tax dollars on DEI, wokeism, transgenderism, the Green New Deal, not even in America, and every other country around the world. And we're

a country with $37 trillion in debt going through the roof, Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, they're all headed towards insolvency. The average American makes $66,000 a year. What the hell are they thinking if they're going to spend our money that way? They think that's a constitutional crisis. It's scary. Yeah, I wonder what it is. I even saw a few weeks back when all the mayors came of sanctuary cities and they got just absolutely grilled. And you're just listening to them talk and it's like I always try to figure out what it is like is there some hidden agenda they have are they being like paid or are they just are they just stupid happy dad is a good beer you like it you like it i do like it congratulations thank you it's really good yeah but i was wonder

that like are they just stupid or is there some hidden agenda and to that agenda that we mentioned right now this is the party we have a joint session of congress and i once went to a state of the union and i sat in the upper chamber when Barack Obama was president. He comes out. I stood up and I clapped. I respect the office of the presidency. Do I like Obama? No, I couldn't stand his policies. I was one of his biggest critics. But I respect the office of the presidency. So they didn't stand for the first lady. They don't stand for the president. You have the mothers of Lake and Riley and Jocelyn Nungary, mothers that lost their daughters because of Joe Biden unvetted illegals, they couldn't stand for those parents that lost their children. They couldn't stand for a young

12-year-old man that beat cancer and became a secret service agent that night, which was a cool moment. They couldn't stand for the wife of a slain officer, a hero. They couldn't stand for a young man who lost his father and was told that night that he got a West Point commission. They sit there and they hold up bingo cards like a bunch of petulant, angry, bitter children. If that's the party, I'm like, okay, stay right in that lane because you'll never win another election that way, in my view. Do you see any Democrats like flipping? I saw even like your friend Stephen A. He's been a little more outspoken. He and I had gotten to a fight this morning. First thing in the morning, he starts in on me. I love Stephen A. But first thing this morning, he starts in,

you know, and he's quoting Jim Kramer. I'm like, if you took financial advice from that idiot, that makes you even dumber than him. He was talking about tariffs. And then I literally start hammering him with information that he didn't have. He goes, I need to study up on this. That's pretty funny. He's saying he wants to run for president, right? No, he doesn't want. The hell no, he's not running for president. That would be the last he'd ever do. It was a cool moment though on Hannity when I was interviewing him at the height of all the noise about him running. He has the White House in the background. I'm like, really, Steve and I? Really? He's just playing it up. He's having fun. If you had to predict,

what do you think the Democrats do in four years? Like who's going to be the face of the party? The one thing I'd warn Republicans is don't say it's game over. I've heard that prediction many times over the course of my career. Yeah. That's the end of the party. They're definitely in disarray. A lot can change, though, in three years, right? A lot can change.

A lot is going to depend on peace and prosperity at the time. Donald Trump has taken on the most transformational, consequential, but every single agenda item is rough. How do you deport all of the known terrorist, murderers, rapists, cartel members, gang members that Joe Biden and Harris allowed in this country. How do we find them? How do we end war in Europe and war in the Middle East? The Trump economy hasn't been put in place yet, so he's got to get a reconciliation bill through, which in the U.S. Senate is like the heaviest lift in the world. Every one of these items, how do you restore law and order in America's cities? How do you become

energy dominant? Every single issue now that he's taken on, is a very heavy lift and hopefully Republicans with their small majorities in the House and Senate, hopefully they'll be able to stand by that agenda, get it through, and give it time to percolate. It takes a little time to take effect and they will be judged on their success at the end of the day. That's for every politician. Now, in the meantime, Democrats are going to do nothing but flail, demonize Trump. They have, they revert to form. The only thing they know is Nazi fascist, you know, racist, Hitler, Stalin, Mussolini. I mean, I'm so sick of hearing the name calling. Yeah. It doesn't stick anymore, too. It's just

If it would have stuck, they would have won the election. Yeah. Right? Jasmine Crockett, AOC, and Bernie Sanders, the leaders of the party. Who's the most sane Democrat in your opinion? I don't know. That's a bit of a... If you had to choose one. probably right now the most reasonable sounding is john fetterman okay i don't know too much about him well fetterman's a senator from pennsylvania and i went hard at him when he was running because i was supporting dr ross who's a friend of mine and i never expected him to be as reasonable as he is there are other democrats that are pointing out that they're failing their message their messages off but at the end of the day who are the louder voices

Chuck Schumer's never going to deviate he wants power too much he's not going to go against the radical base of that party in my view when you interview Trump since you guys have such a close friendship how do you turn off that friendship button and kind of keep your like integrity and like you know keep him in check quote unquote there's nothing I won't ask them because that's tough as a friend like to not really not with him I mean but

Because he sits there in the Oval Office all day long, and he spends an hour answering questions from a hostile media. There's nothing I'm going to ask him that they wouldn't ask them themselves. Yeah. And so whatever the question is, whatever the issue of the day is, you know, I'm doing my job at that point. He's doing his job. Because you can't agree with him on maybe every single thing he does, just like any person. Most of it. But if there's something you don't agree with him on, like you always press him, I notice too.

I mean, there have been times we've had conversations. I'm like, what are you doing? And there are times, if I do a show, he doesn't hesitate to say that show sucked. He has told me. Really? He did not like my interview with James Carvel. Now, Carvel in that interview, in fairness to Trump, was lying through his teeth. And I fact-checked him the next day.

He kept saying, fact-checked me. I said, you're wrong, James. You're wrong, James. And so he goes, fact-checked me. So the next day, I was on the air, I fact-checked him. And he was wrong in all of it. What do you think about? his whole policy with like Canada and like Greenland.

What do you think about that? I saw J.D. Vance just recently went there too, right? He did. He went there. His wife went there with him as well. I think Mike Waltz went there. I'm going to predict. I'll make a prediction. I think the people of Greenland will separate from Denmark.

I think they'll claim their independence. And Trump being the ultimate negotiator. the more you know Trump he's in a perpetual state of negotiation he doesn't stop negotiating if i want an hour interview i ask for an hour 15 i start there or let's say i really need for the full hour 43 minutes to get an hour in and i'll say i you got to give me the full hour i i'll give you i'll give you 20 15 minutes will get me over the top i'll give you 30 all right so i'll end at like 35, knowing that I'll keep him in the chair till 43 and get the four-hour. You kind of have his number on negotiations now with the interviews.

No, it's not that, but I just know he's going to negotiate. Yeah. And that's what he's doing with all these countries with tariffs. The fact that the media, after all this time, doesn't understand him, to me, kind of speaks volumes about how stupid they are. Because they can't get beyond their visceral hatred of him or Trump-derangerman syndrome. it's like if I took in your seltzer, if I took Alka seltzer and I dropped it in, it's going to bubble and fizz.

Trump says one word, they bubble in fizz, you know, let off energy. They scream, I hate Trump, is dangerous, threat to democracy. And meanwhile, they sit by idly silent when Elon Musk is under fire for no reason at all, and they're firing bullets into his dealerships. and the Molotov cocktails at his vehicles and putting, you know, a blaze his charging stations. For what reason? What did Elon must do that engendered this hate

or brought upon all this hatred? Nothing. He saved astronauts that were lost in space and abandoned by Biden. This is the guy that after Hurricane Helene sent free-starling connections when they had no communications with the outside world to help them out for free,

help people in Tennessee also, help people in California after the wildfires. This is a guy that's working with NeurLink to hopefully help the blind with the combination of AI be able to see again and people with spinal cord injuries to be able to walk again. And now, because of his association with Trump

and the fact that he's identified hundreds of billions and waste, fraud, abuse, and corruption, they don't like him for that reason. I think, frankly, he's a hero for discovering that. And just even what he did with X, I mean, I feel like free speech is really back, even just as a creator. I've noticed the difference. And Elon really started that wave. Like, he didn't have to buy X, but I think what he did with X, too, put a lot of pressure on all the other social media platforms as well, right? So, I mean, that was huge. Well, you're not being canceled on YouTube anymore, right? Exactly. No, I've even just seen the difference in the last, you know, little while.

Meta, that's changed a lot. We'll see what happens with TikTok. I'm not, actually, funny story, my staff finally took my accounts away from me. From you running them, you mean? Oh, yeah. Yeah. They took it, because it became a full-time job. Yeah. I'd be up at three in the morning fighting Jimmy Kimmel and having these huge Twitter fights. You see these notices go out.

Twitter fight, Twitter fight, you know, and people would, and I'd be, you know, going back and forth with Jimmy Kimmel, who's a jackass. He hates us, too. I hate him. He's an idiot. When he made the comments about Elon Musk, I went after him. I'm like, really, Bob Eiger, you're the CEO of Woke, DEI, Disney. Do you approve that message joking about domestic terrorism?

Just like when he went after Melania Trump, the woman speaks six languages. English is her sixth language. She's reading two children, and he starts making fun of her accent. I mean, you're just an asshole to do that, and I went hard at him, and I made him apologize to me before I'd ever give up. That's how deep in the pain I went against him. And I just kept hashtagging Disney, Bob Iger. But I'm like, Bob Iger, do you approve this message?

Does Mickey Mouse approve this message? Definitely not. Well, my radio show was first syndicated by ABC Disney, so I know they can't stand controversy. Anyway, all of those late night shows are on cancellation watch now. Their ratings are so bad. Yeah. You'll get a thousand times more viewers to this podcast than they'll ever get viewers on any given night. And it's because they got so political.

I always think, too, because I'm from Canada, too. So since I supported Trump, I'm getting a little bit of flack now. We're in Canada? Just outside Toronto, Mississauga. Did you play hockey? Yeah, of course. life oh me too what position center center yeah all right still watch or do you watch hockey or no oh i have i've seasoned tickets to the panthers okay oh that's your team yeah i'm leif so panthers

have been fucking us a little bit recently but they do have kachuk waiting for the fucking beauty yeah okay and can you imagine if they get to his brother how cool would that be yeah and they just got marchion okay but they've got three guys down now they have one guy suspended i think they'll be ready for the playoffs how great was the series the finals last year they're a fun team to watch to chuck's one of my favorite okay they went up three okay he's one of my favorites too they go up three zero it's three three and the tightest game seven you have ever seen right yeah how great was that series good and that stadium too i notice when i go watch leifs games the panthers fans are so positive too like leifs if they get scored on the whole building goes quiet when i went to a panther's game

when Bobrovsky gets scored on, they chant his name after he gets scored on. So, like, that's how positive of fan base. He's a great goalie. Great goalie. Yeah, he's a wall. It was just an exciting year for them last year. Yeah. I just haven't been able to get to many games because of my work schedule.

Yeah. Did you watch the Four Nations? Oh, yeah. Of course. Canada needed a W there. We needed some sort of W at least. The only... Because things are not going well there right now.

It's not a bad thing you're losing Little Justin, right? Yeah. So, however, I don't like, I think Canada and the U.S. should be best friends. However, Canada's been screwing the U.S. with tariffs. They haven't paid their fair share when it comes to NATO, and they're doing nothing to control the border. In 2024, there were more illegal immigrants coming through our northern border, through Canada, than the previous 17 years combined. I'm like, you guys got to be good neighbors, good partners.

You shouldn't be putting tariffs on our products. You know, there are certain agricultural poultry products, dairy products, that you can only sell X amount at a tariff of around 5 to 15%. And then after America sells X amount of that product, then the tariff goes up to 245%. So they kind of started the tariff war. and do I think after the election that will take place later in the month that will eventually find peace with Canada, I do. Yeah, I hope the, what do you think? I don't like when we booed each other's national anthem.

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Do you know much about him? Yeah, I mean, he was winning by a lot. I hope he pulls it off. I think it would be better for the people of Canada. How do I describe this? I mean, Canada has become a socialist hellhole. It's so different than when I grew up there. Yeah.

Canada needs like a big comeback too, so. The thing is, if Canada wants to pick a fight with the U.S. Well, yeah, I don't think we're picking a fight, not military, not military wise. Well, and we'll stick to hockey. But in a sense, they're resisting lifting their tariffs, right? They're resisting paying their fair share to NATO. They're resisting securing their borders. I'm like, just do those three things.

you'll have a good relationship with President Trump. It really is that simple. I think, too, as a Canadian, I think that the fact that Trump can even say, like he can even say and it makes somewhat sense, like joining the U.S., that just shows what a state Canada's in. Like, that's not even something he should be able to say. You ask me if I disagree with President Trump. I don't want Canada as a 51st state. It's too liberal. That means two liberal United States senators. No thank you. You think California's bad? No, exactly. But there's a lot of conservative Canadians that are just fucking fed up to a ton but they're not the majority right so that that to me would be two you know senators from the from the 51st state that are going to be liberal

I don't need that fight we have a hard enough time maintaining control as it is we got 53 U.S. senators now but I think we should be best friends you mentioned earlier Greenland I think once they vote for independence, mark my words, Trump's going to come in with a deal. I don't think I made him an offer they can't refuse. That's what I think happens. And maybe that won't result in them officially joining, but maybe it'll be something beneficial. It'll be a partnership. Yeah. With Panama, I think the same thing. You know, we built that canal. We didn't build a vagina. He's absolutely right. And we've got to reestablish our control and our presence there. There'll be a deal made in Panama. Like you said too, everything he does is a negotiation too. So I think when he comes

out in an interview and his initial position is all the way over here, Canada, you're joining us. Right. The deal's probably going to fall somewhere over here, you know. But if you're starting all the way out there, you're probably going to get a pretty good result with the deal. Everybody's got to remember too. This guy takes up more space in people's brains than any other one human being that's ever been created. He lives in these people's minds. And he knows. And he knows. He knows what he's doing. And that's a part of him that people don't understand. What do you think about when he says he's going to run for a third term?

I love it. Because they bubble and fizz, right? Like Alka Salter and Happy Dad. And Happy Dad. Listen, it would be an interesting challenge. Ultimately, it's a constitutional issue. But read the next sentence. I'm not thinking about it.

It's way too early in my administration. But again, he's taking it. But again, he's taking up space in people's minds, which I find funny. Is that constitutionally something that could actually be possible? Well, not according to the actual wording of it, you know, two terms. But would that be a possibility maybe in some other respect? Yeah, but I'm telling you, he takes up space in people's heads.

He's great at it. Yeah. Do you think that he's going to be able to end the Ukraine-Russia war? Cautiously optimistic. I think he's made progress. I love that he kind of, he went hard at Zelensky. Now he's going hard at Putin. You know, Putin has kind of used this opportunity to push forward.

Yeah. Didn't they just mobilize like 160,000 troops? He just did. 160,000 is the exact number. What I don't like is I don't want to see Putin have an advantage and buy time and delay it. I think the only way this is going to end is, or if it's going to end, it will end this way, is Ukraine will not be a part of NATO. However, with their mineral deal with the U.S., that will ensure a U.S. presence in the region for decades to come,

I think it may allow other European nations to put troops inside of Ukraine, again, creating a barrier, a defense, if you will. I think they probably, not probably, they will have to give up some land, some of the territorial claims of Putin. You know, everybody wants Trump and Steve Whitkoff, who I like a lot, to go out there and say, Vladimir Putin's a murdering thug dictator. I happen to be of the thought, he is a murdering thug dictator. If he had territorial claims on on certain territories in Ukraine, it was a much better way than lining up troops on the border with Ukraine and that idiot Joe Biden saying, you know, well, what are you going to do if he invades? Oh, it depends if it's a minor incursion.

I mean, what do you mean a minor incursion? He's building up his army right on the border, you dumbass. He's about to invade the country. He already annexed on your watch with Obama, Crimea. Of course it's going to happen. And, you know, then it becomes a full-fledged war. Then it becomes a proxy war because they're using hundreds of billions of our tax dollars to fight this war. And they fought it to a standstill.

I admire the people of Ukraine. They fought bravely, valiantly, courageously. They did better than anybody ever thought that they would do. Everybody thought that Putin would march in there and devastate them. Here's where we are, though. Three years later, however long later, it's time to end it, right? Okay, there's not going to be a country left. There's not going to be a place for people to return to.

The mineral deal will not only provide a U.S. presence and a financial incentive for the U.S. to do it, but it will also give them the money that they will desperately need to rebuild. I'd love to see that. I don't, why are, what's the point of people dying? So Joe Biden would call Putin all these names, probably accurate. Did it move the needle? No, it didn't move the needle. The best thing that we could do is end this war and have a negotiated settlement.

And if that happens, I think it's going to be in Europe's best interest, Ukraine's best interest. Putin in that sense will be rewarded for bad behavior, but at least the death will stop, the destruction will stop, and Ukraine can begin the process of rebuilding, which I'd like to see. Yeah. Another one that scares me is the Iran situation. It doesn't scare me. No. Well, one part of it scares me.

If even the IAEA acknowledges that they're much closer to acquiring nuclear weapons than maybe we thought, the actual breakout time, once you are able to get to 60% enriched uranium, the next step to 90%, which is military-grade, nuclear bond. grade uranium is very short. So they're on the precipice of having, according to my sources and public information, enough uranium to start out with probably six nuclear weapons. They don't quite have the delivery system yet. That could probably be acquired quickly. So time is short. Donald Trump gave them two months, a number of weeks ago to negotiate. Every indication yesterday was they're giving us the middle finger. And they've made it pretty clear what their intentions are, right? When they chant death to Israel, death to America, I think that's pretty clear.

Yeah. You know, we see what they've done in the Middle East. They have provided Hamas, Hezbollah, Islamic jihad, the Houthi rebels. They provided all the weaponry. So they're fighting all these proxy wars against Israel. We saw twice now they have fired directly from Iran into Israel. When people, you know, take the side of a mosque, it drives me up a wall because they lost on October 7th, they lost the equivalent of 40,000 Americans in a single day based on their population size versus ours, which is 10 million versus, what, 350 million. I didn't finish the Canadian analogy.

Canada is not going to win against the U.S. in any kind of battle or war, and you need us to defend you in Canada, just as a side. point. So they lost 40,000 people. When I ask liberals all the time, what part of murder, rape, kidnapping, torture, and beheading? Because I've seen the videos. Do you not understand? If you don't have that moral clarity, you don't have a soul, you don't have a conscience, and you don't have a heart. Watching those videos reminded me of the images I've seen in the Holocaust. I saw images of babies being beheaded. It's all there. The IDF has the videos. They won't release them publicly, but they did show certain people in the news media so they could be aware of it. Back to Iran.

On the Iran question, it's simple because Israel already proved after last April's attack almost a year ago that they could penetrate Iranian airspace because Iran has a lot of landmass. Okay, so they can penetrate that system, which means they can do whatever the hell they want in that country. Now, if they get American bunker buster bombs, because all of their nuclear facilities are spread all throughout the country, coupled with the planes that we have that they would need to deliver those bombs, they could wipe out, you wipe out their refineries, you take away their money. Donald Trump was on the verge of bankrupting them his first term, and Joe Biden put a blind eye on sanctions and let them get rich again, just like Europe helped Putin get rich by buying their oil, which is why energy dominance here, we can supply Western Europe, all their energy needs, we'll get rich, and they'll have more security. I would say how this ends, you can't trust the Iranians at all, and how it ends is somebody's going to have to take out the refineries,

nuclear sites and the sooner they do it the better the last thing i would want to have happen even though it would be biden's fault biden made them rich Biden bought them time four years to enrich enrich more uranium and get to this point trump inherited this problem but if if the weapons are made on his watch they would try to blame him it wouldn't be fair but they would try so i don't want that to happen i think trump i'm glad that trump but i'm not a warmonger i want to stay i want to of it but if we have to take them out and just end that threat for the world i promise you and i know for a fact every year every single country in the middle east would celebrate donald trump or israel or both taking out iran's nuclear sites and refineries yeah it's it's a it's an

interesting time right now it's you know but there are some conservatives are like no there'll be more acts of terrorism i listen to those arguments we already have iran assassination squad in the country, thanks to Joe Biden. So they're already here. We have known terrorists in the country because of Biden. We just have to find him and get them the hell out of here. Yeah. Since you've been in the game so long,

like you've been in it longer than pretty much anyone, right? What's been like your biggest challenge, like in the media space? Like, has there ever been times where like you've been kind of censored or like... Oh, I've had boycotts, all that sort of thing. I don't even think about it anymore. Coolest moment ever, though, for me is... I don't remember what the controversy was, but there was some controversy, something I said. And Kerrig coffee machines made it known they were pulling off my show.

All of a sudden, somebody on my team makes me aware, they're like, holy shit, you got to go take a look at these videos. And it went viral. It wasn't anything I started. But my fan base read that they were trying to boycott me, which is another way of silencing or trying to cancel you. The first video I saw was a guy on the third floor on his apartment, taking his carrick machine, dropping it, busting in pieces. Then the videos start going crazy, people shooting them, people with baseball bats, people with golf clubs, destroying their Kerrig machines.

That's hilarious. So Kerrig backs down, they come back on the show, and I felt bad. I'm like, man, all these people stood up for me. If you did that for me and you send us your video and you proved that you destroyed your coffee machine on my behalf, I'm going to buy you a new one. And so I bought like a thousand of them. Really? That's awesome. It was pretty cool.

But I've had, yeah, I mean, all throughout my career, I don't give a rip what anyone says about me. I'm way past that. Not necessarily that, but like the network or like, I'm sure it's a lot easier now. great to me. They really have. I mean, 29 years. That's a long-ass time. That's crazy. It's crazy. I'm like the lone survivor. I feel blessed to do it. I have a great relationship with them. They let me do my thing. And I just, they know I'm going to work hard. They know I fact-check. They know I do all the things necessary, you know, to put on a show that doesn't put the network at risk. But I always get to say what I want. I'm not told what to say, who to support. None of that gets in the way.

How do you think Fox differs from like other networks? Like do you think are those other networks, are they kind of more pressured on what they can and can't say? Like an MSNBC or? I mean, am I really supposed to believe that Joe Scarborough, who used to represent the most conservative district in Florida, all of a sudden became a liberal? It seems kind of expedient to me that he wanted to be on television, get paid a nice big check. And so he goes on MSDNC. and now he's a big liberal joe that's what i call that's my nickname for him liberal joe yeah or nicole wallace she ran john mccain and sarah palin's campaign she worked for george w bush and now she's like radical hardcore left wing trump hating oh big time could she have had a change of

heart uh i don't know but i've kind of stayed consistent throughout my career i'm a i'm a reagan make America great again Trump conservative. That's how I describe myself. And I've been consistent. I want lower taxes. I want less regulation. I want government out of our lives. Tell me what government does well. How's law and order and safety and security in small towns and big cities? How's education in America we were abolishing the Department of Education? You know, we spend more per capita per child than any industrialized country with the worst results. How does government do with that? How is social Security and Medicare doing, they're headed towards insolvency. How did that Obamacare promise work out? Keep your doctor, keep your plan, and the average family saves on $2,500 a year

per family. Well, okay, the verdict's in. Millions lost their doctors, millions lost their plans. The average Americans paying nearly 300% more. And over 40% of the country has one Obama Care Exchange option. How'd that work out? People put their faith in government, I question, why would you want the Green New Deal, cradle to grave, wound to the tomb society, Marxism, redistributionism, socialism, stateism. Put whatever name you want on it. I wrote a whole chapter in the book, Live Free or Die. I swore I'd never write another book. I hate writing books. Too hard. What was that process like? Hard. It's, like, no help. Do you just write it all yourself? I actually dictate part of it. and then I'll have somebody put that part together and then I do the final thing myself. And I'll put in the column, research this part, research.

I need research and research of research, which is how I do my show every day. Yeah. I have a whole research team. And I like to get everything right. But I have a whole chapter of socialism. It's history of failure. Whatever form, name, manifestation, it always fails. you end up the same way every time you end up with unfulfilled promises more poverty and then you

calculate how much freedom you gave up in the name of false security that's how it ends every time what was one of the most iconic interviews other way you know what I love when you ask a question you smile because I've seen your pranks yeah over the years yeah you've got a wicked sense of humor there's always like this little devilish grin behind you knowing your history yeah Which is very cool. What pranks have you seen? Oh, my God. You see any of the Trump ones we did leading up?

I saw a couple of those. I saw, when you see that there's liberals, there was one that I saw. We put the signs. We'll put Trump signs on those lawns. No, the better one is putting liberals on Trump supporters signs now. I know. That's funny. We did a few of those leading up to the election.

It's funny. Keep doing that. That's good stuff. Do you see the one we did with the illegals? Which one was that? So we went to Beverly Hills, like the most rich liberal neighborhood. And then we knocked on the door and said, hey, Would you want to sign this petition to, like, support illegal immigration, keep the border open?

Yeah. And, of course, they say yes. And then we had, like, 20 Mexican actors come off a bus and, like, try to walk into their house. And we're like, okay, here you go. And then they freaked out. Those ones are so fun. You got to share them with me and we'll put it on Hannity. I will, if you want.

Yeah, let's do it. Let's do that. But I was going to say, what's one of your most, like, iconic moments on the air in all these years? I get asked this all the time. Like, in this studio right here, there's a moment. my podcast studio. I've had Mike Tyson in here. I've had Sly and Jennifer Stallone in here. Stephen A.'s been in here. You know, Gillian Michaels, Gary Brecker, I just love interesting people. Next time I'm going to interview you. Yeah, let's do it. We'll bring in your whole crew.

Yeah. You guys are rowdy bunch. We'll be a little more happy dads. Yeah, we'll be a lot more happy dad. It's earlier. We won't do it at 10 a.m., yeah. On a Wednesday. This is an unusual day because of a lot of breaking news that's coming today. You know, I get asked that question a lot. I'm going to give you the same crappy answer, so forgive me. And that is, I love all of it. When I was young and 10 and 11 and listening to the pioneers of talk radio, I never thought I'd ever be in front of one of these.

And when I got the first opportunity to be on the air on radio, and remember, talk radio when I started, it was 200, 250, talk, news talk stations in the country. Now it's the number one format over, I think over 5,000 stations. Wow. We're on the most of anybody, 750. Then you have Sirius XM, then you podcast it. It goes out on the internet station websites, Hannity.com. I mean, there's so many different venues to listen to it. So many now, yeah. The minute that light went on, my life changed. So it's a roundabout way of answering you and saying, I love all of it. I've never gotten over liking that light going on, loving it.

You know, it's like they're starting to count me down. People, when I did an audience show, it would be like, 10, I'm like doing this. I'm joking with the audience, talking to people that are there. Three, and they're like getting nervous. Two, all right, welcome back. That's it. And I just like the feeling. And I like, because my passion is politics.

I also love sports more than people know. Stephen A. and I, he's like, stay in your lane. Don't talk about sports. I'm like, you stay in your lane. Stop talking about politics. You don't know what the hell you're talking about. You guys are good together, though, because you're kind of friends, and it's, you guys always have a good conversation.

We do. Yeah. He's a cool guy. Yeah. But I love all of it. Does that sound? It's a kind of crappy answer, right? Did you ever think you'd be at this point, like, back then when you got fired from that?

No. Did you always like, no, you'd be? I always felt through most of. my career, I was doing my last show. I just figured somebody's going to come in and realize they screwed up and pull the plug. And I always, but that fear also drove, that wasn't a fear, that belief drove me. And I just worked harder. I'll give you, I'll give you an example of how I learned to work harder. When I was in Atlanta, there was a legend, he's now retired, he's still a friend of mine. And it's funny, we became friends because we were fierce competitors.

His name is Neil Bortz, smart as hell, Mensa, he's that bright. And he was on a station in Atlanta, and then he made the jump to another station. It was a big deal, big story, big change. I went into audition two days. I get hired. I move from Huntsville, Alabama to Atlanta. He's on a six-month no-compete. I get there.

I've got four months to convince this audience. that I'm worth listening to. Otherwise, he's going to come in? Well, first, he made a mistake. He used to be on 9 to noon, which was my slot. Then he moved 12 to 3 to go up on my station. We had Rush at the time. And Rush was like at the top of his game.

I mean, pulling massive numbers, which was great for me because he was a big draw for the station. That meant huge Q. So he went up against Rush. He got his ass kicked. Then he swore, I'm a morning person. sure enough I'm going on vacation one day my first vacation like eight months after starting and I'm listening to him 12 to 3 I just finished my show and I'm driving to the airport

heartsfield airport and he's like Hannity I know you're listening I'm like he called you out on the air on the air I'm like how the hell does he know I'm listening he goes I know you're going on vacation he goes get ready your phone's about to ring and he goes he goes I just want you to know you're going to get a call from your boss telling you to come back because starting Monday morning at 845 he was going to get a 15-minute jump on me

he was an SOB and I heard all of it he goes I'm coming and I'm taking my audience back and I'm running you out of town all that on the air all that on the air and I heard every bit of it wow so I was close to the airport

get to the airport call my boss I'm coming back I'm not going on vacation. He wouldn't let me. And I was too new to have any juice to fight him. I'm like, no, I want to come back. I want to be on the air. What the hell is this? I'm like, you can't do this to me.

And it worked out fine. It ended up. Nobody had ever been able to compete with this guy. And there were a couple of books I beat him. And that had never happened before. There were three books in a row. Now, you think of all the stations in Atlanta, these are two AM stations at the time. And between the two shows, nine to noon, we both had, for nine months straight, 12 and a half shares with men 2554.

Okay, that's one quarter of the entire Atlanta metro, basically the state of Georgia, listening to either him or me. Yeah. It was crazy. So you're battling over just such a small territory at the time. But then I was way more into like politics. He was kind of a little later in his career. Like I was at every event. I was shaking hands.

I was handing out sanitized buttons and, you know, doing rush rooms where people would get together, eat pizza, listen to Russia at the same time. That's when I really became very close friends with nude. He's like my older brother. and I was the MC the night he becomes speaker that kind of catapulted me up a little bit and he'll see if you talk to him he would swear that he ran me out of town I'm like yeah you ran me out of town of Fox News good luck yeah but at the time nobody thought like Fox News you mean like Fox 5 Atlanta in in New York or Fox 5 Atlanta no this is a national news channel like CNN nobody gave us a shot nobody thought we'd ever be successful that's interesting yeah I can

kind of relate to that too i feel like sometimes when you have someone that you're competing with it can really drive you drive you even if you're friends with them or not friends with them just having someone that can subconsciously light a fire in your ass oh he'd let me they lit me up yeah so one day i'm driving into work and i tuned into his station it is i'm on the air at nine it was six 15 in the morning. Not only did he go on the air with the morning host, he had already read every newspaper. He gave a whole list of every topic he'd be talking about that day. And I'm like, wow, man, I haven't picked up a newspaper. I didn't do any work. So that was the last time I ever showed up at that time. Then every day, 6.15, I would get a list of all, I would take notes of all. I would take notes of

all of it, he'd give away his whole show. For example, if he was talking about a topic, he didn't do guests. I would get the person he'd be talking about as a guest. Me and my producer would be like, damn, you guys were really flexing on each other. Oh, we're fighting, man. This is old old school radio war. One day he announces, oh, I have a rare guest today.

Bob Shapiro, who represented O.J. Simpson, is going to be in studio at 10 o'clock. And I'm like, oh, I go to my, why didn't we get him? He goes, well, I just heard him on, he's going to be on 99X, which was an alternative station, one, April Fool's, by the way, because we just passed April Fool's. I did their morning show and had everyone calling into taking chastity pledges, and they did my show, and they were pretty liberal, and they were telling everyone that they wanted to perform gay marriage on the show. So it was a pretty cool April Fool's joke.

Everyone, I'm crazy in the town. Anyway, so I'm like, all right, let's call over to 99X. We know the morning. We love those guys. We get along with them. So we get Bob Shapiro's rep. Well, like, I don't know if you have an opening. Any chance you can come on at 9 o'clock.

Yes. So we're going to beat him by an hour. Wow. Okay. The hour's coming to a close. His station is literally down the block. It's like a two-minute ride. I'm like, you know, Mr. Shapiro, this conversation,

I have so much more to talk. to you about. I've so many more questions. You're evil. I keep him in the studio till 1045. Oh my God. You know, gets to the other station. Sports is, you know, comes running out of his studio, basically cussing him out, pissed off. And that's what an old school radio war is. That's how competitive I've found. Is he still in the space at all? No, he's retired, but I mean, he was on the air for 40 some odd years. And we're still best friends. We became best friends in the process. Believe it or not. Yeah. That's good. It's Is there anyone, not that you need to say them?

By the way, he made me better. Yeah. He was so good. It sounds like it. He made me better, made me work harder, and I realized I have to work hard. And I would argue today I work harder than I've ever worked. I'll find that, too. I'll find myself slacking off and maybe I'll see another person or another group and you see

what they're doing. And you're like, you know, these guys are fucking killing it. They're here, they're there, they're doing this. How long? They're not stopping. And then it's kind of... You grow up an hour and a half to do this interview. I'm not worth an hour and I have three hour drive.

I'm not. I mean, this is great. This is... No, I don't think I'm worth a three-hour guard. But you're gonna, you're gonna, you just keep working like this. I mean, obviously Rogan's at the top. Oh, of course. He's the goat, yeah.

But you're not far behind. I mean, I think he's got like 36, I saw this the other day. I mean, he's a 36 million. Or 40 million, whatever it is. Yeah, but you guys are like a 20 million. That, that's serious, you have a serious audience. Yeah, we have a serious audience for sure. And that's awesome.

Our audience is like die hard. They're like a cult following. I know. My son's one of them. My son, my business partner. My other business partner. They're all. That's probably like yours too, though, because you've been in the game so long.

Like even us, we're considered like, oh, G's too. Like, we've been doing this for like 12 years. So for us, it's never been like a. You're how old and you're OG? 30. That's what, in the YouTube, in the YouTube space. In the YouTube. We're considered like, yeah, we've been doing it for 12 years.

But YouTube's where you're making a lot of money too, because everyone that I know that has a YouTube channel. They're doing real well. Well, with us, our thing was we never got monetized by YouTube because we were always edgy. So as we were coming up, that's why we built such a loyal fan base is because we were very transparent and YouTube never paid us. They pay you now?

No. Well, now we don't really care because we use like copyright music to like make the videos better and stuff. Okay. Like if we're doing a lifestyle video, like we'll use a 50 cents on. If they're paying everybody else, they need to pay you. I need to negotiate your deal. Yeah.

I'll help you. But no, when we were coming up, like I'd be collabing with YouTubers and they would be telling me like, you know, we're making 200,000 a month. And we weren't far off their views. But since we were edgy, YouTube would just demonetize this. But it forced us, it was a blessing in disguise because it forced us to get smart and like build businesses around the audience. Okay, so you got smart, you build businesses. Why don't you get that money too? Yeah. Yeah. At this point, they have, for sure. They have no right to not monetize you. Yeah. Now, YouTube's been very, very good to us recently, though. I think they've realized

what kind of... Are they paying you? They're paying us on the podcast channel. The other channel we have where we do like the funny videos we'll just use copyright music because it's kind of like a movie and like we don't want to use like instrumentals or royalty free shit so we just take the l on that to make the videos better uh well i actually because music became so expensive for radio bumper music i just have a cover band do them all that's smart and you know what it works you to plug us up with the cover band i can hook you up no problem they start doing all the nilk music so what's your future what are you guys planning i mean just keeping up with the videos We have our other channel where we do the funny stuff.

So we've been to like Australia recently. We went to visit this uncontacted tribe. We went to India, did a video there. So that channel's more just like lifestyle traveling. We just went to Ireland. Love that. We partied with Connor McGregor for a night. So we're dropping that Monday.

How great is Connor McGregor? He's awesome. He's a trip, right? He's running now, I guess. I know. He's going to run for president. You got to have him on. He's badass.

Man, in his prime, I just remember. he just I would hate it when he lost you know but when he was on his game and he'd win he was a beast oh my gosh who's your favorite fighters he's one of them you watch a lot I know you're like I don't as much because I don't have the time like I the president even invited me to go to one UFC match on I I just can't get away I got to work you got to come though have you been no there's one actually coming up I think this weekend Miami right that's your got to come You're going to be there. You're going to be in the front row?

Yeah. Dana get your front row seats? Yeah, yeah. I got to call Dan. I'm not as close to Dana as you are. But I like Dana. We'll call him after this. I will tell you, I respect Dan a lot.

Yeah. He's smart. What do you think of the slap? I think it's cool. I think it's different. I think it's tough to compare it to the UFC. Oh, it's so different. It's so different than the UFC.

I personally think watching it live is very entertaining because it's like a party in there. Oh my God. There's like bars all around and everyone's just like laughing, having fun. having fun. I think if you compare it to the UFC, obviously you're, you know, you're not going to like it. The thing is, is if you do like a strike and you can't use your palm, because if you do a targeted strike, like, for example, if I would like use a hammer punt and just like rake your jaw, like, and just come right down, first of all, your jaw will come off its hinge. It'll go straight to your brain. You're going to be on your ass. It'll be that. One of the things

that we train with is targeted strikes. Go for the carot eyes, trache, knees, you know, whatever I can do to break you in 20 seconds or less. And everything's in combinations. You just don't do one thing. You do multiple things. But I like it because it's so badass. I mean, just you can't move. You have to sit there and some train strong guy, boom, going to come right across. It takes balls through Paris stuff. It is like you're out of your mind. There's so many great up-and-comers that I don't know. I don't know where the sport's going. I just know that it's just we have gladiator sports.

I love gladiators. I love fighters. I love warriors. I love people that put their everything on the line. You know, NFL players to me, ultimate respect, ooze to them, boxers, same thing. UFC guys, slap guys. They just, I love. people that are tough, that have courage, that fight, they put it all on the line. You know,

they're not going in that octagon. They're not going in that ring expecting to lose. They're not going on that field expecting to lose. And they just give their heart and soul and put it all on the line. I love people to put it on the line. You know, in a way, what you do, you go out there, you put it on the line, you're going to get criticized, you're going to get people that like you, people that hate you. Okay, too bad. Yeah. But a lot of people live. their lives in fear. I never want to live a fearful life. I don't want to be afraid of anything, and I'm not. I also believe in God, so that helps. Where do you see your career going from now? You've been in it so long. And you don't get, no, I'm saying, you're still at the top of your game.

You're pulling four million. My days are done here. No, I'm saying, does the battery ever run out? You're pulling four million live hours at night, 30 years later. You know, uh, you're not sick of it. You love it. Not sick of it. I mean, I'm more addicted to it than ever. That's awesome. I asked my son at one point, I said, do you ever think I should retire? And he goes, God, Dad, no. Like, it was like, an instantaneous, no. That's awesome. I'm like, why not? Go, Dad, you're going to die. That's what his answer was. And I thought about it. He probably wasn't too far off in as much as, you know, I've just so immersed in it full time. Through passion, yeah. And I love every aspect of my life. I kind of, I moved to Florida, so I love it down here in Florida.

That's the move I made. Save a ton of money, although New York is vicious. They try, if I'm in New York a day. They come after you? They want to come after you. A day, you know, this whole, oh, you know, 183 days or is complete BS. Yes. You know, I had hired attorneys and accountants.

The list had 65 items on it so that they can't come after me, you know, and if they do, they'll have no case. Yeah. And they'll still come after me. I meet all these people that move from California and New York. There are more tax people from New York that live in Florida. Because they chase you out of the state because of their regulation, taxation. Two governors in a row said they want conservatives to leave.

Kathy Hockel, Lee Zeldon, Trump, all huge people, get on a bus. Go down to Florida where you belong. I'm like, okay, I'll go to Florida. Andrew Cuomo, when he was governor. If you are one of those extreme conservatives and your approach, died in the pro-assault weapon, which I am, and anti-gay. I'm not anti-gay. I'm pretty libertarian. He goes, you're not a New Yorker, and there's no place for you in the state of New York. All right, leave New York. Now they want you back. No, they want my money back. They don't want

and like all these companies, Wall Street South is where you are. I mean, it's amazing all these big companies, private equity companies, banks. They're all moving to Florida, man. And the free state of Florida. place to be. I'm glad we're both here. I'm glad we're both here. Well, I appreciate your time. I don't want to take up too much. I know you got a busy day. You fired me up, though, with these. You got a crazy work ethic. I got a day, I had a day off. I got to go do some more shit now. Or find someone else to compete with. You know what? Just keep being creative. Yeah. No, I love it too. I'm just like you. Like, I just love what we do and we're so,

I'm so grateful. I'm so blessed. I'm constantly fine-tuning everything. Yeah. All right. You know what? Like, you can see in TV minute by minutes and I'm like, oh, shit, that didn't work. All right, don't do that again. Let's think of this. Constantly fine-tuning it. And look, keep doing more of this. Yeah. Well, that's our...

Where's my camera? That's our baby. That's our billion-dollar play. This is it right here. Buy this. Because this makes me... I'm a dad. Makes me a happy dad.

And next time we hang out, yeah, it won't be Wednesday at 10 a.m. We'll have a few more with your son, too. Yeah, we can have. We'll definitely hang. It'll be fun. I appreciate you, bro. Thank you for coming on. I know you don't do this too often.

Appreciate you. Sean Hannity. You bet. Thanks, man. Awesome. Thank you. Appreciate it.