FULL SEND PODCAST - Stephen A. Smith | Ep. 142

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 How was last night? It was good. It was good. This is classic. Steini's late. Yeah, that's what I was saying. It's like, this would make sense. Did you, how was last night?
Starting point is 00:00:09 Did you go out with them or no? Yeah, briefly, like, we went to, obviously the event that we were at, and then we went to some place called Blue Flame, which was apparently a strip club, got in there for two minutes. Apparently a strip club? It wasn't, I didn't know until I got there. Yeah, right. No, I didn't know Blue Flame. I knew Magic City was a strip club.
Starting point is 00:00:28 Okay. And then I didn't know. blue flame was a strip club the second we walked in there it was like oh no we're getting out and then we just left you guys didn't say didn't stay we watched i watched uh chandler fight lose i lost some money that was a little sad oh you took chandler that's your guy right yeah and i did too and then i yeah i took john jones bow nickel and olivera parlay well i did a parlay john jones bone nickel chanler i fucked you got me but then i then i bet big on john jones because i was like he's a hundred percent guaranteed and of course guys that would fucking go he's the fucking he's thine he probably
Starting point is 00:01:05 had a late night 100 percent yeah he stayed out later i think he went back out i think most pods he walks on now he just looks like shit yeah ben shapiro everyone was commenting like yo this guy was he just looks like he's been out all night what city was ben shapiro in Miami oh that makes sense yeah that makes sense but i don't think there is a city where like i mean Atlanta yeah we're going to be in iowa it's going to be the same thing yeah dude he was i don't know man he's going to walk in here like paranoid as fuck too like what's good why isn't looking at me and shit he's got to chill out man he's like he's like dude I don't know why he's so he's he likes to party in so much more than you've chilled out the most I've chilled out the most bro
Starting point is 00:01:43 bro I just get so hung over now it's not worth it it's not worth it I know you get it now pick and choose well well well what up what up yeah what's I look like shit dude milk you fuck you too do you remember years ago though like because about five years ago is when we were really doing it and you were partying crazy. Yeah, yeah. Remember me? I was always like, no, I'm kind of good.
Starting point is 00:02:05 Because I was older. I know. But you've always been Jacks. You get away with the like, yeah, I'm not drinking. Yeah, yeah, that's fair. That's such a cheat code. It is.
Starting point is 00:02:12 You're like, oh, we get it. Yeah, that guy, we get it. All right, boys, we got Stephen A on the pod today. Before we get into it, you guys got to download the prize picks app if for some reason you have never tried it yet. Download it right now. We just came back from the prize books world championships.
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Starting point is 00:03:26 like if I go out and have a good time I got to hear it from fucking five people now from who from Gabe that's just Gabe you know Gabe by the way if you haven't tuned in this guy's raiding dicks for a living now um wait what yeah rating dicks have you seen the clip yeah no this guy shows him his dick and Gabe
Starting point is 00:03:43 we should react to that what by the way you text me again for the second night in the row at 105 yeah to see if you're out bro no no no dude I fuck I get laid with women that's totally fine but I'm not I'm not hitting you up trust me if if I was gay I would get a way better looking guy I'm being on
Starting point is 00:03:59 It's like you are at you have no chance. Don't put labels on it. Here Brad, you can click that. So Gabe's been doing a podcast run. So Gabe's on pods. Damn. Yeah, let us know what you think of this.
Starting point is 00:04:10 No, this one's pretty big, too. So I'm about to show you my eggplant and I want you to rate it one out of ten. Do you think, let's see. I'm going to go that deep on your phone. Wait. It's for real showing me.
Starting point is 00:04:24 This is yours? Do you show you as yours? Yeah. it's pretty good what do you rate at one out of ten solid eight eight
Starting point is 00:04:33 well make it a ten um made up a little bit more girth maybe I'm just trying but he's good bro what the fuck wait
Starting point is 00:04:43 what podcast is that about the most insane clip you've ever seen he's OF creators he said a little more girth would make it a 10 he does Oaf's love we're talking about
Starting point is 00:04:52 oh okay oh my god it wasn't just a random dude who was like here's my dick he's OF creator holy shit dude how is
Starting point is 00:04:59 night what you guys do uh i went to what's it called uh two strip clubs i told you you came no one did i went and we went right out that was like not it we went in and right out fucking got scammed you got you paid money there you fall in love of the striver no wait where's you go to strip club after funny marco scrub this is not the guy in Atlanta i love you but dude the guy gassed up that place so hard the blue flag i didn't even know what the fuck it was until we got Atlanta is a different type of scene I had a different scene I had a good time though
Starting point is 00:05:33 With Sugar had a good time I had a fun Where'd you go after How was Ace He was actually fun Yeah it was cool Salim was supposed to be on this pod too No
Starting point is 00:05:43 I don't think he has a pulse right now Yeah no No that guy's dead Jimmy is Jimmy in here Dead Two casualties last night Salim is for sure He's done
Starting point is 00:05:55 Wait so wait where did you go The second time Because I wasn't I was sleeping at this point. Candyland. Is that in the strip club? Yeah. What was different than the first one?
Starting point is 00:06:04 Well, let's just say, like, I'm very... You're going to try to flex? You're like the guy in Atlanta? No, I'm very accepted and obviously very beloved by the black community, so they all want me to come. I was the only white boy, I swear to God, this entire place. But wasn't sugar there? No, he didn't make it that late. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:06:20 Does Magic City live up to the hype or no? I didn't go to Magic. We didn't go there. I wanted to go there, bro. But we didn't go there. Fuck, I'm pissed we miss UFC last night. Oh, my God. should have been at that fight you know it's funny because see we're me see if we're gonna go like randomly
Starting point is 00:06:33 just from here we're just gonna fly up there and then i was like nah it's like a lot of flying trump uh elan and who else sent together trump elan tulsi vivick rfkk it was the whole fucking cabinet yeah it's so sick like the one like i saw it i was like oh fuck flop that crazy you think and i asked you that we were talking last night yeah is he gonna go he's still gonna go to ufc fights even when he's president you don't think he gets first why wouldn't he uh security purposes maybe that's what i was thinking there's already security purposes now yeah but i mean i mean he could do whatever the fuck he wants now yeah i don't think he's worried about his image as much now now that he's elected now they're just gonna like they're gonna just roll and they're
Starting point is 00:07:14 going to do whatever the fuck they want but did you see john jones i know john jones praised them massive yeah huge did the dance and everything it's a complete we were talking about this last night but yeah i feel like it's like a complete just flip yeah From where it was when we first did the pod, and you guys first did the pod and the support there was like, oh, be careful. For me, it was like the way the election panned out too, like how it was such a landslide. It's just good to know, like, because you're kind of thinking, like, you ask yourself sometimes, like, am I crazy? Or like, we're all kind of asking ourselves, are we crazy with everything that the left was saying and shit? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:07:49 So it's good to like confirm. Like that was like a reflection of where society's at. Yeah, I feel like everyone just like we're done with the bullshit. Yeah, everyone got to the point. And they were like, oh, and also the key was like, people were just trying to fucking pay their bills and trying to do like basic shit. And then you have this other like distraction, but really just like other talking points that they're like, oh, this is important. And everyone's like, all cool. But like, we just want our basic needs met.
Starting point is 00:08:16 And then everyone just align with that. And I think that's why it was a massive shift. It's going to be interesting to see how the liberals have to switch up their agenda now too. Because they're not, I think now they want to fucking win. They want to be in power. They're like a rebuild. They have to re-build it. They got to drop the...
Starting point is 00:08:32 Like, they're going to have to come out and say, like, yo, we don't agree with men and women's sports and shit like that. Like, they're going to have to drop the super, super, super, super-woke shit. I was talking about this yesterday. Like, that's 100% going to have to happen. They're going to have to go a little bit closer to the middle. Because they were way too left. I know we could talk to Stephen A about it too, because he's on the left,
Starting point is 00:08:50 but he's like a logical left person. Is he left? He didn't vote for Trump. Really? I feel like everything. time i've seen a clip of him he's like fucking fully right i think he's like an old school liberal like maybe a liberal in like 2001 or so ironically which like yeah it would have been joe rogan and elin musk and all these people that have now switched it's just weird yeah they just got it just got way
Starting point is 00:09:13 too far to the point of like we're gonna talk about all these other things and like virtue so you're kind of woke no in what sense like you're a little woke like i'm awake i'm more awake than you like currently yeah yeah yeah just woke up like 10 minutes ago I'm woke up about two hours ago cool yeah no I mean it just seems like there's definitely gonna have to be a massive shift because if because if Trump does a lot of things he said he's gonna do also like if he completes those things it's gonna be really hard we kind of just disregarded uh we kind of disregarded uh the whole Gabe clip Gabe clip was insane though do you want he wanted to rate your cock yeah you're gonna show him a photo no
Starting point is 00:09:52 dude why give me a 15 out of 10 I can't show you a photo I don't have a he doesn't want to show up because I don't have a photo you know you know for the fucking clip Brett show anything in the fuck no I don't have a photo okay now show me your micro Hollywood buddy just fucking show the phone like this and I was I like okay fuck it whatever you're gonna show a picture of your dick no just say yes dumb ass look at how he talks to people bro be respectful bro Brad is way more important around here not talking about him not because I I don't want him to show me on your loki bottom of the totem pole in this room
Starting point is 00:10:22 Nah, he's going to troll me on some bullshit. Even Brett's got more respect these days. No, I don't mean it like that. Just a joke, bro. No, but I don't want the joke could be misconstrued. You could say some fuck shit. Dude, I got two. I have two checks on the flight right now out here.
Starting point is 00:10:37 I got a inside source here trying to hit up the ring girl from the Tyson fight right now. Which one? What's on with that? No, which one? I just, someone just told me. Uh, the blonde one? Yeah. With the personality?
Starting point is 00:10:47 We're texting. With the personality. What does that even mean? Big personality. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm watching the fight with this guy
Starting point is 00:10:54 and he's like banged her No no no no no no no no no no don't say that Five ring girls bang that one bang that one Don't say that fuck Don't say that Why are you say that? Why would you say that? Yeah that's a joke You want me to say that bro
Starting point is 00:11:08 No it's a joke And now you're actually like I don't say that bro That's a joke I didn't say All right all right I want to talk to Stephen A about We gotta talk sports too though Yeah
Starting point is 00:11:20 We don't got to talk politics one Oh, fuck that. Politics are over. Nah, I wish I could say that. It's never, I won the election, man. It's never over. Give Kyle his flowers. He won the election.
Starting point is 00:11:30 How you, fuck, man. Guys on Fox News every day. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that is funny. Like, what the fuck? I don't even know he's on there. I'm watching Fox News in California. I swear to God, I didn't even know he's going to be on there, and he's fucking there. It was pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:11:49 This is good. How do you feel about all the people that say? I, yo, this guy's Canadian. Yeah, oh, that's one of the biggest things. I think it's kind of stupid because the U.S. affects the whole world. Like, it affects Canada. Like, the U.S. is the leader of the fucking free world. I'll tell you why I actually think that that's so stupid is because it's kind of the American dream.
Starting point is 00:12:09 And you came here and you created a company and you created a lot of jobs. Well, I've lived here for like 10 years. I pay taxes here. I love seeing the, you know, this guy can't even vote. Between Nelk and Happy Dad, we have over 120 employees. Yeah, it's funny. People should be giving you. you fucking...
Starting point is 00:12:22 But for me, the most important thing with Trump, too, is the way that he's going to handle foreign policy. Like, and that affects the whole fucking world. Yeah. For sure. Like, if the U.S. is going to war, Canada's going to war. NATO's going to war. Like, we're all going to war. Yeah. So it's fucked. Canada needs some help, man.
Starting point is 00:12:37 I know. I did some foreign interference, pretty much, right? Essentially. Damn, dude. No, I see that a lot, though. People say that shit a lot to you. I mean, it makes sense. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, fuck, if they want to let me help out in Canada, I'd be glad to do that, too. Because Trudeau, we got to get out next, right? Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 00:12:54 That guy, he's probably shaking. I don't know a single Canadian that likes that guy. Nobody likes him. Well, I saw he's been showing Trump a lot of love now. I think he's going to worry. He's got to bow down now, right? Yeah. All right, boys, today's sponsor is Cracken, the number one crypto exchange ranked by Forbes.
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Starting point is 00:14:03 We're going to be looking through the comments and we're going to choose 10 different people to win $1,000 each for the next three weeks. Let's go, let's go. Let's get it going. I'm missing the damn Steelers game. I said, what are you doing this now? What do you have? Wait, who do you have?
Starting point is 00:14:18 So we know. I'm a field chair. Who do you think is the better quarterback? Justin Fields or Russell Wilson? Watch for a steak, brother. We ain't going to do that. We ain't going to do that today. You know, I say this five days a week.
Starting point is 00:14:30 I'd let y'all know where I stand. You don't need to reiterate that. What did you think about the Tyson fight? I know I came on your show, Stephen A's pod. That's on YouTube, right? How often do you do that? My pod? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:40 Three days a week? Three days a week. Yeah. So I wanted Stephen A's show. We had a little bet off. I think you went more Tyson and Jake. Yep. I think it went, I think my picks hit, right?
Starting point is 00:14:51 I don't remember. I don't remember. What did you pick? Less and less. Punches, yes. I think Jake got less punches too. You're probably right. You know what it is, though?
Starting point is 00:15:01 I think Jake did it on purpose. I think that he didn't want to do it. I think he knew that he could take Tyson out and he just felt bad for him. And he thought it would be bad for him. He thought it would be bad for all parties concerned for him to take Tyson out. Tyson walked into the ring. stumbling. Go back and watch the tape. When they introduced him, he's walking out, and he's stumbling. And then after that, you look down, and he had on the knee brace. And I said, oh, my lord.
Starting point is 00:15:29 And then in the first round, it's two minutes, not three minutes. And I saw Tyson tired. And I said, this is going to be bad. And I think that I really, really, I don't think, I'm not saying that he walked in there with that intent. But I think ultimately being in the ring with a guy, as 31 years older than you, approaching 60 years of age, I think compassion kicked in. And he was like, I don't, I really, this is Mike Tyson. I really, really don't want to hurt this guy. I really believe that's what happened. I guess Tyson's saying it was a W, right? He said he got in the ring. He fought someone that was half his age and the guy couldn't knock him out or do anything. Well, he's saying that. I don't think he's saying that's why. I think he's saying this
Starting point is 00:16:12 why because he walked into the ring. He was able to stand around for eight rounds. And on top of all, got 20 million. I think that's what the win was for Mike Tyson. But I think that if Mike Tyson was truly being honest with himself at age 58, if Jake had really applied the pressure and
Starting point is 00:16:30 was winging some throws, I think that, you know, I think it would have been a short night. I think it would have been bad. I really, really do. And you got to remember when you get up then age, I mean, when you go down like that, there's a lot of collateral damage that could potentially come with that. And I think that some
Starting point is 00:16:46 with Jake's power, size, and youth saw that. And it's like, I don't want to do this. That was a respectable. Yes. I think Jake handled that very well. Yeah, I thought he did. I'm not knocking at all for it. Again, I'm not accusing him of walking into the ring with that intent.
Starting point is 00:17:01 But it's one thing to have intent, talk junk, get slapped at the press conference, all of this stuff that contributes to promotional things, it's another thing entirely. And when you step in the ring and then all of a sudden, somebody that you've revered and you've admired a long time. And for those out there who will sit up there and look at me and say, it's far-fetched, I would ask y'all to go back to when Larry Holmes fought Muhammad Ali. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:24 And Larry Holmes was like, you know, I love this man. I revere this man. And I'm beating him to a pope. Y'all got to stop this. You know, he didn't want to hurt Muhammad Ali. He made him ultimately sit on his stool and not come out later on in a fight. But he was, but, you know, that happens. When you've been great and you've established yourself and who you are and then you're just old and depleted and nutrition is kicked in and stuff like that, you know, you do find yourself in situations at times where people might have compassion for you.
Starting point is 00:17:59 I've seen it in the boxing before. I thought I saw it Friday night. So you don't you didn't think that they anticipated it going that way at all? I think that Jake walked in thinking that Mike Tyson was going to cry to come at him and he was just going to catch him and knock him out. I think when you saw him walk into the ring and you saw how old he looked and then you saw the knee brace on and you just saw the way he was moving. If you watch Mike Tyson, I mean, think about all of Mike Tyson fights we've seen. Think about the movement, the head movement, you know, the foot movement, et cetera. And then to see that and to know that he's 31 years older than you literally approaching 60 years of age,
Starting point is 00:18:43 I think to see it in front of his face at that moment, it hit him. Yeah. And he was like... The first minute of the fight, I was like, oh, Tyson might have this. And after that, it was over. After that, he was exhausted. Sorry, I don't watch so much TV. I'm sure you to cover this.
Starting point is 00:18:56 But do I think it's a little crazy because we were watching the fight and there's a party that thinks Tyson can win this? Well, I didn't think he could... I didn't think he could... I remember they were interviewing me before the fight. And I said, if Jake Paul, if you really, really want... All you really got to do is run for a couple of rounds. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:12 And he won't have the stamina. I said, you know, you got to remember 20, and people forgot this. Nearly 20 years ago, he gets dropped by Kevin McBride. Yeah, yeah. Professional boxer, but clearly wasn't a big name. He gets dropped. Tyson was not hurt.
Starting point is 00:19:30 Tyson was tired. He literally extended his arm for the, for the referee to help him up. That was his instinctual reaction to help him up because he was out of shape. that was 20 years ago so if you're out of shape 20 years ago even in shape 20 years later how much shape are you in if you haven't been fighting
Starting point is 00:19:50 the only time he's been in the ring was for an exhibition match against Roy Jones Jr. Who by the way was a bit bloated at that particular moment and Tom obviously having retired from the sport himself but he was also a natural light heavyweight you know or really a super middle weight that went
Starting point is 00:20:07 to light heavy weight. Roy Jones was no heavy weight. So You're in the ring with somebody like that. That was Mike Tyson. Now you're going into the ring against a cat that's 228. He's a young lion. And no matter what questions may exist about Jake Paul and his ability to box real boxers, because we haven't really, really seen that yet from him,
Starting point is 00:20:29 we don't question his power. We know he's got power. Yeah. You know, so I just looked at it from that standpoint. And a lot of times, just imagine seeing yourself going up against somebody old or whatever. We've seen it with people in the streets. We've seen it everywhere. You're suddenly in front of somebody. You're like, this person's
Starting point is 00:20:47 old. Right. This is not. This ain't even right. I'm not going to do this. And I really thought that's what I saw Friday night from Jake Ball. Yeah. Wait, were you getting shots up with a lethal shooter the other day? Yes. Your stroke looks pretty good.
Starting point is 00:21:03 I can shoot. Maybe you should do like a one-on-one, like big exhibition game. No. With who? Against who? Like a Levar Ball. maybe yeah I mean listen here's the deal I have fun and I've been a journalist and a commentator my entire career but I know my position and I when I'm judging professional athletes professional anything it's against their peers their contemporaries it's never me thinking oh I could do it hell no I know better than that and so I don't give a damn who it is you in the NBA you know what
Starting point is 00:21:40 you're one of the elite professional athletes on a planet earth. And even if there was somebody that I could shoot better then or whatever, I would never disrespect them by really, really saying so because they're in a place that I was never good enough to get to. I couldn't even shine their shoes. Right. I'm going to give you a hot take that I feel right now. I think Wemby is going to be,
Starting point is 00:21:59 has the shot to be the best player of all time. Well, I'm not going to dismiss that he said. The brother, 7-5, he hit 23s over a three game. stretch he's got a handle he could block shots he can defend straight up he's got good foot movement got a nice shot he's got all around skills and he's seven feet five i just when when people talk about him my only problem is when we we get a bit ridiculous oh my god look at him dunk he's seven five right you know what i'm saying he could dunk without jumping so my attitude let's say what when he's shooting threes like when he's shooting threes that's a different animal
Starting point is 00:22:37 When he's shooting threes, when he's displaying his ball handling skills, that's a different animal. And that's why I say, I don't disagree with you. He's got to get a bit bigger and what have you. But, I mean, look at Kevin Durant. Kevin Durant is one of the greatest players to have ever played. Part of it has to do with the fact that his skill set comes with a 611 frame. Because he's a legit 610, 611 with a 7-6 wingspan. With that kind of ball handling and shopmaking skills, what can you say?
Starting point is 00:23:02 You can't deny it. If anything, he's underachieved because he's only got two titles. because that's how great of a talent he is. Yeah, wow. Think about it. Yeah. When you could, you could, Kevin Durant can average 30 in his sleep. Kevin Durant is money, 85 to 90% from the free throw line.
Starting point is 00:23:17 He's good for 38 to a 41% shooting three point percentage, right? He's got all the requisite skills. He's one of the greatest players who have ever played the game. 100%. So, so you look at him and I would tell you that the two titles, it should have been more? He should have had three or four. You should have been more? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:34 This is something I just want to ask you. you, Jokage, right? Yokic, yeah. Three-time MVP. No one ever talks about him as like a top five player of all time. How do you feel like when I... That's a good question. I tell you
Starting point is 00:23:47 why I think that's the case. He's a phenomenal basketball player. But primarily due to his IQ because he really, really, really knows how to play. But he can't jump onto a curb. And when we look at basketball players,
Starting point is 00:24:05 the first word that comes to our mouth is athleticism. We're looking at a guy and we're saying, wow, you know, look at these athletes, man. These brothers can jump out at the gym. They got these brothers. It's nice to watch. This brother, Yolkich, I mean, just a big tub of law, just shoving people around.
Starting point is 00:24:21 You know, no six-packing. They're stealth built or anything like that. He's just big and strong. You know, waddle. He don't even walk. He waddles and you just look at him. And you can't stop him. There's nothing you can do. I mean, He shoots the ball from up here.
Starting point is 00:24:37 You're like looking at him like, damn, what this dude is unbelievable. Shot goes in. How many times go back and watch the Denver Nuggets when they have playoffs against the Lakers. And how many times Anthony Davis is saying? Because he's all over him. Right. And he's contesting the shot.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Blocking his vision. He's got his hand up. And somehow some way, this brother just, he finds a way. So he's great in that regard. But when you look at some, like you look at an M.B. M.B.'s resume doesn't compare to his. Can't even get to the conference finals. But as a talent, when Embed is healthy, the skills are pure.
Starting point is 00:25:15 You see it. I mean, he can jump. He can block shots. He can score machine inside, outside, back to the basket, face of the basket. He's got the whole package. He just can't stay healthy. But you look at other guys. And when you think about the NBA, you think athleticism.
Starting point is 00:25:29 And Yokic is an athlete. Please don't get me wrong. I'm not throwing any shade on them. I'm just talking about when you think about God, look at how we marvel over Anthony Edwards. Look at how we used to with Vince Carter and Kobe and Jordan and how we still do with LeBron and stuff like that. It's because they had an athlete, a level of athleticism that you just marveled at. That's not Yolkich. Right.
Starting point is 00:25:50 It's not him. He just knows how to play, knows how to use his strength, his body, and abuse you. He might have like probably the highest basketball cue. Maybe. Maybe. I don't know about ever. I mean, there's greats like magic. Johnson and John Stockton's, Isaiah Thompson's in the world, various others.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Michael Jordan had a high basketball IQ. I don't know if we could say anybody had a higher basketball IQ than LeBron, but Yokic is definitely up there. How many more years you think LeBron is he said recently? I think LeBron retire next year. I think he'll retire at this season and then next season and then I think he'll call it a career. That's just, I'm guessing. Why do you think that?
Starting point is 00:26:25 I don't think the Lakers are going to win. I think their best chance to win is now. And I think that, you know, that bucket list moment. playing with his son is what he stuck around for. You could talk about him trying to play with his other son, Bryce, but that would be about three years from now. I don't think that LeBron. DeBron's a top five, top six play in the league still right now, without question.
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Starting point is 00:28:24 Yep. So what do you think happens for his kid once he's out? Like, do you think you're kind of doing this as a favor? But first of all, there's no question. Yeah. Let's cut the BS. Sure. There's no question that it's a favor.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Ronnie James did not do what it took to earn a spot on an NBA roster. That's the bottom line. Not even to get drafted like that? Well, you could question getting drafted because sometimes they do draft off a potential. And there's plenty of people that get drafted in the second round that we know we don't know what their potential is. But to play, you're saying. play opening night to be on an NBA roster, you know, and then, listen, this is what I've said about Brony James. He's a wonderful kid. They got a wonderful family, their first family,
Starting point is 00:29:10 the NBA. I don't think anybody can deny that with Savannah and LeBron and their kids and the job that he's done, incredible role model. And his son is a shining example of that because he's a very lovable kid, talk to his teammates, high school, college at USC, and the pros. He's a real lovable guy in the eyes of everybody that you know that you talk to about him but the reality is is that now that this has happened um you get to harken back to the resume you were a mcdonald's all-american you average 14 points a game most mcdonald all-american players they don't they have better numbers than that and then you go to ufc after you had the heart ailment and what have you and then you go to ufc and you don't do but so much and that's fine because his health was an issue
Starting point is 00:29:55 And then you get drafted 55 overall by the Los Angeles Lakers And you're playing on opening night And you're inserted into the lineup in the second quarter So you and LeBron can enter together First time in NBA history has done that King Griffey Jr., King Griffey senior And attendance for the game All of that was special
Starting point is 00:30:13 At some point You as Brony You need to say I don't want this anymore This was nice Dad I appreciate you I love you to death, man. It was great that you did this.
Starting point is 00:30:28 I'm happy that I could have been a part of it. But now I've got to go earn my stripes. I got to be in that G-League. I got a show that I'm worthy of being here because you can't always be here to protect and cover me, et cetera, et cetera. I'm not saying he hasn't done that. I'm saying that's what needs to happen if it has not happened.
Starting point is 00:30:45 It kind of sucks for Brani, too, because it's like his debut could have been in a year or two and maybe it would be like a crazy debut from him. I feel like it's kind of selfish of LeBron. He could develop in the G-Lie. you never go. That's what I'm saying, but his first debut could have been like... If he had more time. Well, I'm not hard on LeBron about that at all.
Starting point is 00:31:02 LeBron has been such a treasure for the league. He's earned the right to have what he wants. And if he wanted that moment, that's fine. My point is that it's on Bronte. There's nobody would have said anything about that moment as long as it doesn't continue. But when you end up staying on an NBA roster and taking up an NBA roster spot when others, you know, when so many people would say, say there are so many more who's more deserving, it is incumbent upon you at that particular
Starting point is 00:31:30 moment in time to say, I'm not comfortable with this. I want to do this on my own. Would you agree that the NBA kind of owed this to LeBron? I just said that. Yeah, I totally agree. I totally agree. And I think because he gets a lot of shade for it. Everyone wants to talk about the nebitism, but like, LeBron has been. There's nepotism all over sports, professional sports, especially in the NBA, you know, with coaches and GMs, hiring there's children, hiring their siblings. That shit happens all the time.
Starting point is 00:31:55 buying that. LeBron has every right to do it. Everybody else does it. You want to know the best time ever that I can think about is when Doc Rivers got Austin Rivers that crazy contract. Well, you could say that, but here's the deal. Austin Rivers was at Duke. Austin Rivers balled at Duke. And when he came into the NBA,
Starting point is 00:32:13 he was known as a cat that could play defense. And obviously, when he came in the NBA, he showed he could play defense. Austin Rivers was worthy of being on an NBA roster. 100%. No one questioned that. No one questioned that. Now, the person that people will point to is the Nassus, with Milwaukee, Janus's brother.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Here's the caveat with that. Janus is from Greece. You want somebody around you that you can relate to because he's not trusting and not open. If you don't believe me, go watch his documentary. You know, Janus, just watch it. I think it was Netflix that did it.
Starting point is 00:32:49 It was a great, great documentary on him in his life or whatever. Yo, man, his brother don't, you know, he don't just talk to him. anybody he doesn't just vibe with anybody and so when you've got a guy of his caliber on your squad having his brother there with him to travel with them to talk with them to mingle with him etc etc it means everything because his spirit is in the right place and a Milwaukee bucks benefit from that that's an entirely different scenario than lebron james who's been in the league for two
Starting point is 00:33:17 decades won four championships four-time league MVP been to 10 NBA finals and then you know what your son is on the team and everybody and their mother knows the only reason that is the case is because you are there and you're his dad and that's what you wanted because you told the world that was what you wanted everyone talks about how the honest is like a great teammate too and everyone loves him uh so you you said lebron probably going to retire who do you think becomes kind of the face of the NBA Anthony Edwards yeah I think uh Minnesota's got to be better uh the move letting go of carl Anthony towns bringing in Julius Rand of Dante Jimenzzo to along with Gobert and Anthony Edwards and Nas read and all of those brothers that's got to
Starting point is 00:33:56 improve and reach fruition but I would tell you that Anthony Edwards his game his flare his personality all of those things make you think when I say Jordan when I say Kobe when I say people like that I'm not just talking about his game and what it mirrors at his age compared to what they were at their age. I'm talking about his personality. A matter of fact, Wong would easily argue he had a much better person. He has a much personality than either MJ or Kobe did at his age.
Starting point is 00:34:34 Go watch the, was it uncut gems or was it hustle. It was one or the other, the movie that he was in with Adam Sandler. It was one of the other. He was phenomenal. Wancho Hernon Gomez was in that. That's right. That was the player that they was featuring, right? And so you see Anthony Edwards in that movie, his acting was superb.
Starting point is 00:34:58 It really, really was. Yeah. And he showed you the kind of personality that he can have. And I think all those things lend itself towards him ultimately being the face of the league. Yeah, you're pretty spot on. He kind of has that like Kobe Jordan attitude. That's right. That you don't see.
Starting point is 00:35:12 That's like an old school vibe. Right. And no players have that these days. No question. Where do you think Shadur goes next year? I don't know. It depends on who has the pick. you know I think if it's Dallas it would be if Dallas had the number one pick I think he'd go there
Starting point is 00:35:24 if somebody else had the number one pick I don't know they might go with milro they might go with somebody else but I definitely think he warrants consideration no question about it and I think that you know I've been on the record I think that Mike McCarthy should go I think that Jerry Jones should go out and hire prime time Dionne Sanders as his head coach and Brett and draft his son that's what I think that's the number one possibility it all it all depends on dollars and how much they stink i mean if they don't position themselves to get the number one overall pick or a top two pick where they could do something like that then that's different but if you have an opportunity to make that happen i think they should i think they should that'd be
Starting point is 00:36:02 without question that's the coolest fucking thing ever i think so yeah what about uh his teammate travis hunter you think he's i think he's my vote for the he's yeah he's my vote for the hizman plays every down how how crazy is it plays every down and now only that that's what dion tried to do when Deion played. Deion was playing offense, defense, and special teams. We went to the Dallas Cowboys. He was a wide receiver as well at times. You know?
Starting point is 00:36:25 Quote a big time passing the Super Bowl against the Pittsburgh Steelers, a Super Bowl that they won. Okay? So, I mean, I just look at that and I just say, yo, this is the kind of player that he has. Travis Hunter is a special talent. No question about it. And, by the way, a straight-A student, 4.0?
Starting point is 00:36:40 Yeah, he's on another level. And he crushes content, too. I don't know if you've seen him. He streams, too. He does everything. I don't have, man, please, with all the damn jobs I have. I miss so much, man. My team doesn't tell me what the hell is going on.
Starting point is 00:36:53 I have no damn clue half the time. I really, really don't. Yeah. Why do you think personality is so important to be, like, obviously to be the face because it's like the translation to the audience, but why do you think personality to be considered, like the goat of something is so important? Business.
Starting point is 00:37:08 Listen, your skill set and your accomplishments, that's very, very important. Nothing matters if you don't have that. And I get that part. But we try to veer away from what sells, you know, or the importance of selling. And I just think it's stupid to do because if the people that cut the checks are thinking about that, what makes you think you get to ignore it when you don't want cash in it? It's just not smart.
Starting point is 00:37:36 And I think that, you know, you can use the election that just took place as a prime example. Well, you had Kamala Harris and she was playing the Beyonce song with Kendrick Lamar Freedom, you know, and all of that. And, you know, you was talking about women's rights and Roe v. Way being overturned and it's about our freedom, freedom of choice, women's rights, et cetera, et cetera.
Starting point is 00:38:00 And she got bum rush during their election. Why? Because people said, I'm concerned about my wallet. Yeah. And I'm concerned about our borders. Period. Those were the primary two things. And then, you know, when they,
Starting point is 00:38:12 when you hear people complaining about cancel culture or woke culture and all of this other stuff, that's just a roundabout way of getting to the core of the problem. The core of the problem is that that's giving folks a license to get rid of us for any excuse under the sun. You know, teachers get suspended because of the wrong pro down or something like that. And, you know, people ain't trying to hear that. That all comes, but no matter what you point to, it all comes back to money. If you're thinking about the border is being flooded, And over 12 million immigrants coming across the border illegally.
Starting point is 00:38:42 What are people thinking about that before? Because you're thinking about the fact that all of these folks are coming over here. And if they're here illegally, then it's the taxpayer dollars that's paying for such and such. So again, that comes back to money. And then when you're talking about inflation and, you know, the cost of goods, when you go to the supermarket, the price of gas or whatever, that comes back to money. We, you know, it's people that try to make it unpopular to point out the fact that in the end, everything comes down to dollars but that's the world we're living in when you think about
Starting point is 00:39:11 Ukraine and Russia what do you think that's about you know now I mean you may not be able to say that with this really Palestinian conflict because that's been going on for decades we understand that but why the involvement of other nations because of money you know so at some point it always comes back to money when you when the dust settles and you just scrape it off it always comes back to dollars and sense and then so because I'm like if that's the reality let's stop running from it. And if it applies to anything, it damn sure applies to the world of sports.
Starting point is 00:39:42 It really, really does. And when you show up and you show the ability to make other people money, suddenly they love you. And when you don't make them money, suddenly they don't like you very much. It's really that simple. And we just have to accept it.
Starting point is 00:39:58 What do you think the left's going to have to do? We've been talking about this. What do you think the left's going to have to do to kind of rebuild and change things up with their messaging? They need to grow up. They need to grow up and get with the program and understand that as times and things may have changed, things remain the same. James Carville, a Democratic strategist, you know, it's the economy, stupid.
Starting point is 00:40:21 He was famous for that quote. You know, when you think about the economy, when you think about borders, when you think about security and safety in the streets of America, that's what people care about. the Democrats tried to get us to care about other stuff and it's not to say that folks don't care about those things but they don't care about those things more than they care about money and safety
Starting point is 00:40:46 it's never going to change and so what happens is is that you know they've been a bit transparent one could easily argue I'm not a Democrat or a Republican I don't like either side I think both sides need a whole lot of work
Starting point is 00:40:58 but in the same breath it utterly disgusted me you know when I watched you know, how things transpired. I was going to vote for Kamala Harris because with Trump, my attitude was he's going to be on a revenge tour and it's going to be the same kind of chaos that existed
Starting point is 00:41:16 during his first term. And I didn't think the nation needed that. But I had no problem with anybody who felt otherwise because I saw some of the things that the Democrats were doing. You are a Republican and you're being accused of being a threat to democracy because he's an aspiring. authoritarian and he wants to do X, Y, and Z, but then you're in office with your president who promised to be a one-term president, who promised to be a transitional president, and just
Starting point is 00:41:48 a stopgap to paved away for a younger generation, then the Dems win the midterms and you feeling yourself and you say, no, I'm staying. I'm staying. Even though I'm going to be 82 if I win the election and I got to give four years after age of 82. You said that shit. And then after you did that, then you turned around and what do they do? They greased the skits for you. So there's no primary that you have to go through where you have to face any competition. Then when you show up June 27th for a debate where you look like hot garbage, they turned around and said, you got to go.
Starting point is 00:42:19 So you get booted out, pushed out July 21st. They elevate the vice president, which I understood because obviously she's the vice president and what have you and she should have been next in line. But she didn't have to go through a primary. Okay. So America is about dollars and cents. sure, but we also proud ourselves in a capitalistic society and being about
Starting point is 00:42:38 competition. Well, when did they face competition? You didn't allow anybody to compete against them. You didn't allow leftists or democratic voters to pick a choice between, you know, you and a Dean Phillips or Marianne Williamson or whomever else was interested.
Starting point is 00:42:54 Even a Bernie Sanders or somebody that may have come into play. You didn't give an opportunity for that level of competition to exist. So because you didn't do all of that, wait a minute. That's not our democratic society. Now, you didn't violate any laws. You didn't do anything unconstitutional, but that didn't mean that you were on the up and up.
Starting point is 00:43:13 It didn't mean that you avoided being slick and shrewd and maneuvering your way through it. And then you turned around and tried to guilt us and voted for you. Michelle Obama, a vote for him is a vote against us as women. So it can't be a vote for somebody's wallet. It can't be a vote for somebody's safety. It's got to be about you. It's got to be about it's a vote against women, women, over, Oprah Winfrey goes out, well, this might be the last opportunity a woman gets a chance to vote.
Starting point is 00:43:40 What? What are you talking about? What are you talking about? Are you, are you telling me that women not going to be able to vote come to midterm election? In two years, in four years, they're not going to be able to vote for the presidency. What are you doing? And so you see stuff like that. And then we think about racism and we think about all these other things, you know, with xenophobia, xenophobia, misogyny, all of these different things. And then, you you say wait a minute you kind of fueling that too you understand i'm sitting with the three of y'all right now neither of y'all are black i don't have a problem with you so what and guess what i didn't vote for trump you voted for trump that's your business you got that right as an american system i'm not
Starting point is 00:44:21 tripping it's based on what you think your needs are and what you believe is in the best interest of the country and your vision may be different than mine and as long as you can articulate that vision and you ain't scared to do it and you ain't some damn supremacist or something that's hating people and wishing violence upon other people, I'm good with you. Why do you think America's lost that?
Starting point is 00:44:41 I think because the politicians have ruined this country. I think that they have been caught up in sustaining whatever power that they've had that they've used the American citizens as pawns. 100%. And have created stuff and friction where it's not there.
Starting point is 00:44:58 So ultimately it became that because you have these pundits on both sides of the eyes. on the air spewing nothing but negativity towards one another along with an unwillingness to compromise forcing us in this binary system that we live in to pick a side and as a result that's what it is listen I again am on neither side but I don't share the politics of a Sean Hannity I don't share the politics of a Mark Levin I couldn't have two bigger supporters they've watched my back for years I tell people all the time you're gonna come to me and you're going to tell me, you know what, you don't like their politics or this or that fine. You come to me with that other bullshit, you know, using the race word and all of the question of them. You came to the wrong place. I know them both.
Starting point is 00:45:44 I know I'm both. And they've always been there for me, you know. I don't agree with all of their politics. But they stand on what they stand on and they have good damn reasons why. You want to refute what they have to say. Go up against them. Debate them. Throw your ideas against theirs.
Starting point is 00:45:59 Throw your ideology against theirs. Throw your belief against theirs. Let's evaluate. Let's see what's practical and what's not, et cetera, et cetera. And we go from there. And to me, that's the way that it should be in this country. I'm not one of those. You're not coming to me and telling me because somebody's white, they're racist.
Starting point is 00:46:14 You're not coming to me and telling me because somebody is, you know, it could be anything. You're against women and you're against Hispanics. No, we're your facts. I'm not getting caught up in all of that emotion because that's what both sides in their own way have utilized to manipulate a vote in their favor. and they've done it at the expense of the morale of the country. That's why I didn't vote for Trump because I was scared he would continue to do that
Starting point is 00:46:43 if it had been anybody else are the Republicans that had my vote because I didn't like the fact that woke culture and canceled culture had regressed to such a degree where you had to walk around scared to if you were saying somebody's name right in order to keep a damn job.
Starting point is 00:47:00 I don't believe in that or somebody makes a mistake and they're saying you arguing with somebody and you might call them out your name oh, that was inappropriate, that was abrasive, you need to get suspended, you need to give, no, no, everybody make mistakes, everybody make mistakes. I'm on live television every day.
Starting point is 00:47:17 I've made mistakes before I can assure you I'm going to make them again. Nobody's perfect. Nobody's perfect. But we can't be living in the society where, okay, let me take advantage of this opportunity to get rid of this guy or this girl because that's my come up.
Starting point is 00:47:32 no earn your shit yeah go out there work put into work get on your grind be better and earn your job that way as opposed to your definition of success means putting somebody or bringing somebody down no i'm not doing makes perfect sense yeah i'm not doing you're the man yeah i love that i think you got a run too we all got a busy day you're ready for the prize picks world championships i hope so man i'll be there tonight i mean i know i don't know if i'm as ready as you are but i'm i'm looking forward to All right. We'll see you there. We appreciate you making time.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Please, man. I have it. So watch some football? Yeah, right. I'll see y'all later. All right. That was awesome.

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