FULL SEND PODCAST - Suga Sean O'Malley | Ep. 157

Episode Date: May 30, 2025

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Our boy, Shugashon, long-time friend, fight week next week. How are we feeling? Feeling good. Another fight week. Win with this air? This is probably air. I think we're going to flip it tomorrow. Wow, okay.

So, yeah, we head out to New Jersey soon, pumped to fight in New Jersey. It's where the whole I hand and marab my coat that happened. Like Aljo and Henry fought at the Prudential Center. I was there to see who I was going to fight. So it's kind of full circle. We haven't seen each other since we were saying, when was prize picks? I think it's November. Yeah, it's been a minute.

Fuck, we just been locked away. Peoria, I haven't fucking traveled, haven't done much. Just been here, training. Getting ready. Because I had surgery right after the fight. Recovered from that. And then basically, I knew, like, I wanted to get back. I didn't know I was going to get a rematch right away.

I wanted the rematch. But I didn't know what was going to be next. But I wanted to just get back from surgery to training and book something fast. So it's just been, yeah, training. You've been saying on the internet. like a lot of lifestyle changes and shit when did when did that like completely switch i did mushrooms on christmas day yeah i don't know christmas eve oh yeah i don't know i was a that that probably was like all right i need a did you like trip trip or just like micro i did like a gram

and a half i think and it was like a perfect i don't like losing myself yeah but i also like i definitely couldn't have had like a conversation at certain points like like uh like these my buddies walked because i was supposed to go to tim's that night they were in a christmas eve party all the boys were over there and i was going through some personal stuff you know i'm like i just felt it like sometimes you just feel like tonight's perfect night i'm gonna take some mushrooms took some mushrooms went i have a bunch of trees on my property went and sat outside when like hugged a tree sat there barefoot and this in the ground or on the ground and the craziest sunset even if you We weren't, Tim was tripping about the sunset, and he wasn't even tripping.

And I was looking at the sunset at my house because we're neighbors. But I could hear all the boys talking and laughing, and I was supposed to be there. And I was sitting in my chair, looking at the clouds, and the boys come over. War and Sonal came over to check on me because I was supposed to be over there. And, like, they came over, and I could not talk. I was just, I felt like my tongue was fat. Like, I'm tripping. Like, so I was gone a little bit, but, yeah, I was like, I felt like I just need to make some changes in my life.

Just get rid of some destruction. What all did you give up? Haven't jerked the old turkey. Haven't been on, I haven't been on social media. I haven't smoked. Haven't drank. No gaming? I haven't been gaming for a long time.

What's the hardest to give up? None of it was. It was easy? It was all easy. I don't crave any of it. Like I'll probably smoke again, like especially at the fight. Take a little puff, you know, enjoy, celebrate. Crack a happy dad.

Maybe, you know, I'm not, I would never like addicted. I felt like to weed or alcohol by any means. So that wasn't like hard to quit. social media is probably like I don't I guess I wouldn't say it's hard I mean if you don't have to be on social media like if you have someone that could do it for you it's like it's game changer yeah

I took a break for like five days and it you feel so fucking good I was I was thinking about this yesterday I went on this little I went on a bike ride last night and I just felt super grateful for I sent a bunch of the guys on my on my corner just a message like an audio message I just felt super grateful for the team

helping me get to where I've been And I was thinking about how, like, when you take something, drugs, alcohol, whatever, side of, like short-term side effects, long-term side effects, I feel like I have, I'm getting long-term benefits from the social media detox now. Like, I'm really, like, short-term, I felt like I got the, I was like, whoa, I feel really good. But now long-term, I'm feeling like, I don't know if I, maybe, I just had a baby the other day, too, so it's like, oh, yeah, you're probably living in the moment way more. Yeah, I got another baby, bro. Yeah, I know, I was a six-day-old. Congrats, bro. That probably played a role in it, you know, going through an intense training camp that at 12 weeks, you know, just absolutely giving my entire soul to this training camp, you know, being towards the end of it and having a baby, being off socials, just, I just felt so fucking grateful.

I was, like, feeling like that was the long-term, I'm getting long-term benefits of this detox and it feels really good. Think about how much info, too, like on social media, like, you're scrolling. And you're just downloading, downloading, downloading, down. You're like taking in shit that you don't even remember. Yeah. Right? But then if someone asked you like, yo, like, what did this person do like last week? Where were they?

You'd probably be able to tell me. You know what I mean? You're like downloading all this info that you don't even know you're storing. I feel like the brain wasn't meant to take in that much info. Yeah. And I still watch YouTube. I'm not like, I feel like that's still like my guilty, like guilty pleasure. It's like I still watch YouTube and I still enjoy making content.

Like if we got to make a reel for like we did a happy dad one the other day with the boys at the house I'm building It was fun like I enjoy that But just not actually being on the social looking at comments Not doing any of that Because it's been life change We're used to seeing you do some trolling though before the fights Another thing I just feel like that uh The second Cheeto rematch there was like animosity I really truly want to beat the fuck out of him

Like I felt like I really didn't like him at that time And I and I had such a good performance it felt so good I was like I'm gonna carry that into the marab like I don't I almost forced myself to not like Marab, but it wasn't, like, genuine. It was just like, so I felt like I forced that a little bit. And this camp, it's like, I have nothing against Marab. I'm going to go out there and compete because I love to compete. I'm an athlete.

I'm a high-level performer. I want to go out there and put on a beautiful performance because I love this sport, not necessarily because I don't like Marab. You think that that hatred towards Cheeto made you fight different or act different? No, not necessarily. I kind of, I was like, oh, maybe that's why I had such a good performance, I didn't like him a little bit because I wanted to hurt him. That wasn't the kid.

That's not why I performed good. I think I just performed good because I was in, you know, good shape. And it was a, at the end of the day, it was a 25-minute kickboxing match. Right. I could do that all day. Marabs is a different style. Yeah. The completely different animal.

And, yeah, I have to, I'm going to go in there with just a clear, just as clear of a mind as I ever had. We haven't talked since then, but do you think, like, or do you have any regrets about fighting in this fear? Not really. Like, I had. So I tore my hip before the fight, 10 weeks before the fight. So the whole training camp I was dealing with that. It wasn't ideal. I didn't have the training camp I needed to have to beat a guy like Marab.

Marab is not someone you could have a half-ass training camp with. I was very disciplined. I was dialed. I was not slacking anywhere that camp. That camp was good for what I was able to do. I wasn't able to grapple. I wasn't able to wrestle. So that threw me off.

But I was still dialed, still focused, still ate, still did everything right. And you just can't do that with Marab. You have to be healthy. You got to go in there. and and uh with uh 12 weeks of the right preparation that's what we did this camp could you feel his like cardio in there when you were fighting him i know i've heard you say like you weren't i mean didn't feel like that tough of a fight it was a tough fight obviously it wasn't like a it wasn't like a brutal i walked that limped out of there and couldn't see it was uh he held he's good

at getting people in positions and kind of holding them there punch and holding punch and holding and that's why he was considered like such a boring fighter for so long the last fight he with the umar was fucking incredible it was a beautiful performance it was i enjoyed watching it but uh that was kind of the hate marab had gotten coming up the ladder was that he just wasn't a fun fighter he's he's definitely turning that around he's showboat and he's doing his thing um but yeah feeling like i felt i mean i i i almost finished him in the fifth round landed a good body shot a couple good body shots had him running around in circles in the end of the fifth round so i'm i'm confident that i'm going to be able to you know keep up with marab if not push the pace

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It wasn't even extra noise. You know what it was weird about that fight? It was less noise. It was less of a, it was like less of a UFC environment. Yeah. Because I think 50% of the tickets sold were to first time UFC fans. Yeah.

So like they were there to see the spectacle of the sphere. And it was a different environment. I don't think that played a role in my performance. I'm just saying it felt different it was different in a sense the the yeah just it was weird I didn't feel like I was supposed to win that fight in a weird way um I said this on the another podcast a long time ago it was so weird an owl has been like I randomly got this owl tattoo on my chest I had a shitty tattoo right here and I didn't like it I told this I told the tattoo I'm like covered up he's like what do you want I don't know what would be there is like some

kind of bird I'm like he's like you fucking tell me he put an owl here and now it's like ever since I uh the last it was the peter yawn for the first peter yon fight i said outside watched the sunset and like this owl came and flew and laid on this uh or was sitting on this um wood thing by me and i was like what the fuck i was so scared to look up what that meant because i thought it was bad like i'm like what if that's bad like i don't think i've ever seen an owl in my life yeah well i looked it up except for harry potter it's really it was good luck you at 6 a m's like a fucking owl actually yeah that's only owl i've seen but owls have been coming in and out of my life in a weird way like a weird way and uh you know i moved out to this other house and there's i have a

bunch of owls that live in these trees around me so i see them quite often 10 days before the marat fight it was a dead owl in my driveway and i was like that that that can't be good and i i was like i don't know that i didn't want to i didn't want to think about that but i f and it sounds crazy but i just didn't feel like i was supposed to win that fucking fight but uh it i i almost kind of felt like a similar feeling the first Cheeto fight. It was a weird fight week feel. It's like, it felt weird. Like, I wasn't supposed, but that first Cheeto fight led up to me getting the biggest, you know,

my title defense against Cheeto, the rematch. But yeah, I'm, I feel good. Feel good going into this one. Feel very mentally, I'm supposed to win this fucking fight. Does the clip of Maraub diving into the pond ever fuck with your head? I've probably fucked with his head, landed on it. Rob's, yeah, he's, he's one of the smartest guys I fought. I'd say that.

So you feel like it was kind of supposed to happen like this? Sometimes you just, it depends. That's where faith comes in and, like, I'm not necessarily a religious person, but if you could, I felt like it was supposed to happen. Everything's supposed to happen for a reason. It's a weird thing to say out loud.

It's a spiritual thing. I believe in that, though. I believe everything happens for a reason. And you don't learn lessons, you only learn lessons and changes a person when, like, something negative happens. 100%. It's about how you fucking.

You can't. There's a lot of opportunity for growth and struggle. And there's opportunity for growth. But that doesn't mean you're just going to struggle and then you grow. You have to be able to turn that struggle into growth and do the right things. And I feel like I've been doing the right things and all my relationships, all my, you know, taking away the distractions. And I feel like I'm just doing everything right. And again, I can go out there, say I lose that fight. It's like my happiness, happiness is a skill. I'm not, I go out there say I lose this. next fight happiness is a skill so it's not like that monday comes around it's like all right have to be sad it's like dude my life is so fucking i've been able to i just have so much good people around me so such a good uh we've built such a good community around us i'm like life's good regardless yeah i feel like going to do going to do a fight with that mindset being like okay when whatever happens i'm okay with is a is an important for an athlete or any of entertainer to accept that whatever happens is gonna happen i put in the work and uh i feel like i've had that mindset kind of throughout my career like whatever happens allows me to be free in my performance

did you feel like you were kind of like a dark spot after the last fight not really kind of catch you like off guard because you were the champ the man not really it sucked like surgeries suck going through surgery sucks because just not being able to train like i had surgery a couple couple weeks after the fight and just like go through surgery sucks like just not not being able to do what i do every day and train and release that kind of energy and coming off a loss and it's it was just like it was it was frustrating i definitely but i was able to grow a lot from that so it was it benefited me for sure what do you think would be the toughest thing for you to give up alcohol alcohol you don't really smoke what about pussy no but how about jerking possible one thing i'm i could go sober

for fucking three months i don't like jerking is but i got a main girl i got my boo i got my my my queen that like so it's not like i'm not bust and i'm still you're happier but even if you have a girl it's tough to give up jerking would you agree stony yeah for sure you're a big jerker like stony will have his girl over okay i'm not a big jerker you're a huge beater yeah i would say what defines a big jerks i'm stressed out if your boo's at home and you're hiding in the bathroom hitting one off they've done they've never done it's fine you see you say you do that all the time i don't in my bathroom and rub one out his girl oh he's saying if your girl's there and you oh i've done your girls in the house no i'm saying that would be considered a big

jerker like okay then i guess i fit the fucking criteria yeah so uh yeah no giving that up that was another thing just like that chi your energy it's like just fucking watching porn jerking off it's like you never feel better you never leave going i'm the man it's always like fuck pressure done that it's like a temporary stress for we think when you have a main chick for sure you shouldn't jerk but sometimes if you're single, I think jerking's like, it saves you a lot of time. It could save you a lot of time. Because chasing pussy's way more waste of a time than jerking. Like, sometimes I'm at home, I'm like, damn, I'd love to like bang a chick. Like I'm thinking of like texting or telling

to come over. You really got a chase too. And I'm like, bro, I just saved fucking four hours. I can't wait to see. Potentially money on dinner. Yep. Yeah. I can't wait to see who you bring to the floor to his fight. Oh. He's notorious for flexing and bringing chicks sitting right behind. He does, he makes sure they're in their seats when he daps up Trump. I brought two girls. One was my I was dating. Yeah, we won't say the other one's name. Trump loves seeing that, too. Oh, you bring in a smoke show there?

He loves seeing that. Dude, one of my favorite moments is, I have a bunch of different vivid moments that I remember from rewatching fights. One of them was after the Aljo, or during the Aljo fight, I threw the teep, fell in my butt. He got in a shot.

I had good defense, circled off the cage, and you can see you stand up, give a fist bump seconds before I fucking drop. him i love seeing that the last the other one's uh trump after the cheeto fight he goes it was fucking i was like that was i think trump's gonna be there right i don't know that's what i heard damn that'd be sweet you would know you would know better than anyone else i'll give you that got to bring another check though hey so yeah trump maybe i'll let you slide with a plus one you dude i have a plus one to every ufc steenies i got my one chair maybe i'll give my name on my chair that's kind of

that's sick that's sick i'll give you i'll give you my plus one you could bring a check okay you better get working on it i will at 10 days brother you don't ever notice but besides those moments you never notice who's in the crowd or who's watching no i do sometimes i can i look around i see i see it's like uh being in the in the octagon it's such a weird it's in something you can't explain it's just like uh yeah it's why you can't there's not really words or at least i don't know the words to be able to explain how it feels so you feel i guess vulnerable in a sense you feel naked you have a mouthguard in especially the this tight spandex i wear just tight span i feel like you're in your underwear you have

mouth guard gloves you feel naked and it's fucking weird do you like when like big people come to the fights hell yeah is that make you more like i like when you hear trump's coming is that like make you more nervous or you're like no i would i would i'd prefer you know because in my head i'm gonna go out there and put on a absolute masterful performance and like beaver there the beber was another one at when i thought christmere never goes the green haired guy beber was standing up the last 30 seconds and i'm piecing this kid up and beaver standing there that was fucking cool that was cool or you saw him while you were piecing him up no just rewatching the fight I was like, damn.

But I did see, I remember seeing him in the, in the audience. So when you're in the octagon, are you just cutting everything out besides hearing your coaches? I'm just trying to fucking just be in the moment. I usually have that mantra, whatever mantra is going through my head, too sharp, too fast, too focused. Just like, ideally you're not thinking, but if you are, you're thinking of, like, something like that. Is Tim not allowed to chirp Marab this fight? Because we could step in if we need to. I mean, that's what, that's what we're here.

And no, no, you're not allowed to say his name. Tim's, uh, not a lot. on that can you can you can you i don't know rule i guess just from listening to the commentary i guess it's illegal to it's called excessive coaching if you say the other opponent's name um i don't know i just let you know tim does his own thing i feel like we could distract me rob i don't just try and sound like tinned i think he's in miami right now we should maybe try to get him out to swim week rob's in miami i think so that dude is uh it's a character he's broke his toe supposedly yeah what do you make of that i mean i were you at all about him pulling out or something that would yeah i mean

that would suck. I don't think Marab would pull out. I'm not worried about Marab pulling himself out. Someone else pulling him out would be my thing. But Marab was going to show up. He's going to show up as good as ever. I think Marab, his last performance was his best performance. I think this is prime Marab. Like, I think this is the, we're going to get the best Marob. If you guys didn't know, Shopify has been powering our merch business and full send.com literally since day one, since we were shipping orders out of my garage. Shopify was literally there for us every step of the way. That's what I love so much about Shopify is, no matter what size your business is, if you're just starting to when you have the most massive e-commerce business ever, Shopify's the best, hands down. I mean, Shopify's so big now, they power 10% of all e-commerce in the world.

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and the UFC's pretty good about what do the what do the fans really want to see they want to see me versus peter two that's a that's a huge rematch I think that would be one of the biggest, if not the biggest fights in the Bantamway. That was my favorite fight I've ever been to. Oh, yeah, Obadob, you guys were out there. That was sick. That was insane, bro. The Corey fights up there. Marab trilogy's up there.

Yeah, Yon would be way bigger than Sandhagen. It would be bigger. And that's what U.S. he wants to do is big fights. Like, they're a business. They want to do big fights. So I don't know. It's so hard to overlook Marab. I know how good he is.

I know how dangerous he is. I know how hard of a fight this is going to be. um so right now it's like marabs marabs on my radar things are shaking up in the ufc all over the place like light weight is now a brand new division welter weights a brand new division yep who do you have in uh toporia versus olivera i just i wanted to see taporea versus islam i know those were the we all did ah those are the two number one pound for pound guys in the world in my opinion teporea islam both tied at number one obviously john jones up there too but that was the fight to make but they both wanted to move up um so

Elia versus Charles. Hart says, Charles, my brain says Elia. But you can't count either of those guys out, especially Elia coming off those two crazy knockouts over Max and Alexander. I'm stoked for that fight. That's International Fight Week. That's the next pay-per-view after ours, so I'm pumped for that. Islam versus Jack, it is a lot more exciting now that Jack just had that performance over Balal.

But it's, I mean, it's under the Islam, or El-Ele. yeah fight for me but i'm still gonna mean like ilia charles gonna happen then we're gonna look forward to that so it's gonna be just as big but uh how do you think how do you think islam does that welterweight a lot of people are saying like he might be underestimating like the size and stuff but he's a fucking i heard he's huge yeah i heard he's not gonna be any i mean who knows i heard he's not gonna be any smaller than than jack come fight night like which would make sense if he's is 55 to 70 that's like that's a little bit different than 35 to 45 45 i mean it's an extra you know five pounds but

when your skill level is that high as Islam's is I don't think he'll be I mean it'll be it'll be interesting if he goes in there tries to shoot on Jack Jack stuffs him and gets in his face but Islam's striking is so underrated that it's like Islam you know put the hands on Jack too do you think he makes a run at welterweight like who's after that I guess you got Usman and Buckley there yeah

Ian Gary's there that Mark that kid I just fought Gilbert Burns Morales Michael Morales I do the fucking nightmare too yeah the divisions are are heating up that jean Silva too is making the 45 division a little bit more interesting um and i guess patty just won at now patty's a legit

contender too would be patty versus toporia is that's a super super super fight yeah if patty goes out there or if islam or ily goes out there and beats charles i think that's a does patty need one more though you gotta get patty one more probably right yeah i mean who knows

if ufc wants to make big fights like you said yeah arm and sir shiruki He ends up there, too. That dude's a nightmare for anybody. Do you think it is hot right now? I like it. Do you think it is hot? I think it is hot.

What just happened, like, completely changed the UFC. I saw like Nate Diaz was talking to someone yesterday and he's like, dude, I don't even know these new guys. Like, our generation is basically done. The UFC isn't what it used to be. Well, I think what just happened shook up the entire. When did that happen? A few weeks ago.

Oh, okay. Officially Dana announcing that Toporia's, like, they're fighting for the intern belt. Islam's up, fighting for welterweight. Max versus Dustin Porreier, that's kind of, I think that Dustin's last fight. Yeah. Max still fucking kick in. Like, we still got, yeah, and I think UFC is hotter than it ever has been. They're never going to run out of talent.

Like, there's so many up-and-coming people right now that it's just, it's never going to run out. It's just going to continue to grow. What do you think, as a fighter, what do you think? Because it's always like Connor McGregor or this, Michael Chandler tweets, he's coming back, then he never comes back. Like, do you, what do you think about that? Is it a distraction at this point? Or, like, is it just like... I would love to see Connor come back.

Connor I think he's ever just Like toying with people Saying he's gonna come back Just to fucking I think he wants to I think he's probably You know I don't know Connor personally

I think he's probably From Battling demons He probably wants to fight Got a lot of shit going on I don't know I don't see how he couldn't Like

Because I mean he has to fight His next two fights in the UFC And then after those It's just like Hayday City Where he can just go around And fight Logan Paul And whoever else he wants to

and just do fun fights like that and just get bags. But he has to fight out his contract, so I don't see... I mean, he probably has an expensive lifestyle too, right? So, how can you pass up those? Like, what do you think he makes for fighting Logan Paul? Like, is that, like, close to a $100 million bag? Dude, I would assume so. I feel like that would probably be the biggest fight ever.

I mean, Jake versus Mike's going to be hard to fight to, like, top as far as numbers. But Logan versus Connor could do it. I'd rather see Connor versus Jake, though. but yeah Jake's a big goal. I feel like Connor and Logan might be bigger. Yeah,

I feel like it probably be pretty equal. I like the trash talk between Jake and Connor though. Oh, I thought it was more between Logan and Connor. Girl,

when I went to the inauguration, you saw that and they were all on the bus at the same time. I don't know if you saw that. I didn't. So I went on, I go to the inauguration

and there was this guy Alex Brushowitz who like brought us all. What do you mean? Like, he invited me, Jake, Logan and he was handling

McGregor too. So like we get there and we get to the hotel and then he's like we're all going on a bus and then Logan and Jake come up to me and they're like yo McGregor is going to be on the same bus as us and I was like no fucking way

so we get on the bus and like McGregor walks up to them in January yeah an auguration yeah oh so we're all just sitting on the back of like a coach bus the Paul's mom was there too was there security all around no and they were like kind of chirping each other shit and shit too but like also being friendly

well you were saying too they can't take like that's a huge day they're not going to cause any issues on that day yeah that was a fun-ass bus ride I bet it was the best I couldn't believe it you should have been stirring the pot on there I was I got a vid oh yeah I got about that dude I got a little selfie vid at the prize picks event Mike Mike Maylack and Vandy almost got into a little fucking scuffle oh yeah see I was sitting right there I was kind of trying to break it up what's your as a witness I watched the whole thing band he's claiming there was no looking no touching Vandy was overly drunk so it's like

his and and uh mike and his girl and i were sitting the very back vandy was sitting right in front and i think everyone was just a little on edge was late you know and uh i think mike said vandy kind touched her leg maybe on accident maybe i didn't see anything happened but they both got carried away a little bit we're yelling at each other but nothing ended up happened but okay well who are you taking in that fight i don't know i've never seen neither of them scrap freezer's a big scrapper he's known for drunk he's known for drunk scraps yeah i mean There's, well, Mike's got just such a height advantage too, right? Only one way to find out.

I feel like Mike's a protector too, right? Once you get him, like, pissed off. Oh, yeah. Ah, it's scary, bro. No, freezer's fucked. Yeah, yeah, he'd probably, I mean, it'll be... You've always stayed away from all these public, like, altercations. I don't, I don't, yeah, I never get, I don't like those.

I don't like being in altercations or anything like that. I never have been, really. It seems like a lot of people like to pick fights with a lot of these fighters, but we've been out with you. No one ever seems to... No one ever fucks with me. everyone seems to be cool and chill and it's been good yeah i think there's a petition for jones to vacate the title it got like 130 000 signatures did you see that jesus christ i mean it is getting kind of crazy i mean it's like it's on one hand it's john jones on the other hand it's like

tom aspinall's been winning all these fights and you know i'm didn't need to defend his interim belt like i'm pretty sure that's insane like defending your intern belt i don't know i mean i think something has to happen this year right maybe Maybe MSG, I think doesn't he always fight in November? That would make sense. I feel like that would be huge. But yeah, if I had a guess, that's what I would guess. What's the big deal there?

John doesn't want to do it because he wants a certain amount and Dana won't agree to it. I personally think he's just posturing. I think he's just like, it's his final fight, obviously. And like, I think he's just trying to get the biggest possible bag he can. Yeah. I'm sure that happened to Khabib too. Like, I'm sure Khabib, the, you know, his retirement went in. layers too where like they offered him money

and then they're like wait is he actually retiring they offered him more money so I feel like Jones is kind of playing that game he doesn't seem like he was a fuck about money no he didn't which is badass like that's cool but didn't he also got gifted a bunch of land and all that too right in Russia dude he just has he just built a new facility

did you see it that's no that's it's fucking insane it's so nice that'd be sweet to go out there and train you guys got to go out there and train with them that's badass have you ever seen the video of them um in Kip's gym where they're like sliding on the sweat, like it's a slip and slide in the gym? That happens.

Does that happen? I mean, in the summer here. It's kind of unsanitary though, right? I mean, you got to mop the mats after and shit, but yeah, that happens. I mean, mop the mats after every session anyway. I love their Russian basketball. I would love to play a little bit of that. What's different about the Russian basketball? We challenged them. They said they're they don't dribble? They don't dribble. But they still shoot? And you can fucking...

Staggastany basketball. So maybe if we versed them should could be our team captain. That whole thing is a way to whip our ass. Unless you find me on the three point line, we have no chance. You think you could rip some threes? Yeah, easy. I mean, we're going to get tackled and shit. Yeah.

I think we just got to have a good ball movement. We would dust them in American basketball, right? I don't think they don't dribble. They don't dribble. They just run. There's just a rep. So it's like rugby basketball. Pretty much.

It looks intense. It looks intense. They got their fucking interesting characters over there. Who's your favorites of all time? Like, when it just comes to, if I had to pick one, it'd be Connor. Connor, like, with Kamee was not necessarily, he was obviously his skill set is really high. But when it just comes to all around. like entertainment it's Connor um right now who do i enjoy watching the most definitely

elia's up there islam's up there um i don't really i feel like i just kind of watch the top dogs and the top fights but yeah elias ilia's been one of my favorite i was wondering because connor is one of a kind but he's clearly the biggest entertainer and promoter they've had i wonder if dana's ever just like searching for that next like constantly that's literally his job is to find the next big fucking star. Do you see anybody outside of yourself that could maybe take that role? I think Paddy's up there right now. Paddy's, Paddy's got

Paddy's definitely up there. I think Ilya's definitely a massive star. Eli is a good trash talker too. Yeah. I mean, to trash talk like Islam like that and shit too, saying like I'm going to submit Islam right in front of Kabib. Damn, I didn't see that. That's like ballsy. Damn. I just always look back. I don't know how much

clips. I always watch Connor clips because he's just amazing, but like when he's sitting and about to fight Jose Aldo, and he does it in Rio de Janeiro when he's like I own this town. And he rips the fucking hot. It's like the coolest thing ever. And I was, I'm like, is that off rip you think? Or you think that's prepared? I think both. I think he's probably got some shit off rip and when he's sitting there with the MP3

headphones. I'm just like, this guy's on another level of entertainer. He's the best. He's the best. Him. I mean, Chale Sonnen was before Connor was Chale. Chale was the best. Connor. I don't know if we're ever going to. I always kind of put myself, I want to be as big as Connor. I want to do that. It's like, I don't think, I don't, I don't, dude, I don't think I don't think I could be as big as Connor. I just, he's just, was a once in a lifetime. It's crazy, too, if you think about it, because even when he fought Floyd, and Floyd used to be that guy, but, like, he was doing better than Floyd up there, trash talking to him.

He was more entertaining. And I was like, what the fuck? Like, this guy's once of a lifetime. Really is. Yeah. What was your favorite part of hanging out with him? Oh, yeah. Dude, I'm going to tell you something, because people, this is what I really thought.

I'm not trying to get too deep, but what I really saw was, like, because I watch all these clips and he always talks about like i'm only fighting to make money and i'm only fighting to take care of my family so we went to dublin and we're like partying with him i watched him and he looks like he's the happiest he's ever been he's got money and he's with his family so i'm like this guy's accomplished and has everything he wants yeah i mean people don't always look at that side but everyone looks pretty happy well there's some sad buzz drunks but i'm sure he's probably buzzed up but but what i'm saying is like i feel like he's very well accomplished everything he said he was going to do yeah and people don't really look at that side they're just like we want more connor but i know

we'll put people be more an alcohol company fucking sold it yeah we'll be more grateful for Connor I feel like as the times pass and we're like it's the whole generation's over we're all older

and like damn remember Connor like I even still were like Connor's a legend but 10 years 15 years when he's done fighting for sure there's no question we'll be like holy shit we gotta witness that

yeah he's the Mike Tyson he's the fucking he's that guy and we got to witness it which is really cool has anything changed with like your financial goals or like business goals

because I know before you used to be super, you know, you still are business driven and has financial, like, motivation changed at all? I think for now it's a lot more like, you're chasing bags coming up, trying to get sponsors, trying to get, how much can I make a year? How much can they pay me a month? Now it's more so equity, like, trying to get equity in businesses. Me and Uncle Emron are creating our own business and we're going through the process of that right now.

literally starting a business from the ground up me and him are the owners and we are going through the whole process getting samples creating stuff right now so we're working on that and uh that's gonna be that i'm super excited about that so business i always find the business interesting i love getting on calls with all the all the partners and i love doing all that stuff so that definitely still is uh something i do on pretty much on the daily basis and look forward to what about uh I was talking to Tim. He said that you guys have 330 students at this gym. Damn.

Which is crazy. That's all Tim. Tim's gym. I fucking, you know, obviously I'm a part of it in a huge way. But Tim runs this show. He fucking is Tim's gym.

Is there any part of you that wants to like find that next big fighter? Like you look for that? No, they're here. They show up. Like it's the thing about that is like, no one, when I came down to the lab 10 years ago,

no one in the gym pointed and said, oh, that's the next guy. like that's going to be the next champ no one thought that of me like i i always believed that i had the self-belief that i was going to be it but no one in the gym was like that's that's the guy yeah so it's like there's guys here that are still amateurs that are like they just got to put in the work it's not it's not like once stud comes in they're like all right we're getting him in the uc there's guys that have been training for four or five years who are amateur turn pro three and oh four no right now um you grappled with one of them ezra today he's he's a stud he's

gonna be on the contender series soon he's gonna be in the ufc soon and uh there's it takes so much to really become that next guy like people can get in the uc have great careers and just never make it to that point to where you're the fucking man god getting to that point is so hard fuck where was your big it where was your moment when you're like i'm ready for this next level i think the eddie wineland knockout like that was i can't i got in the ufc fought terry unwear December 2017 um I fought three four months later I fought Jose or no I fought Andre Sukumtah was my first pay-per-view I wasn't headlining it I was opening up the paper view broke my foot and like I got I got a lot of fans from that broke my foot

three minutes left in the fight hopping on one foot still fighting like my fan base shot up had a two-year layoff came back fought Jose Quinoes knocked him out in the first round was a it was a big deal but not that big of a deal next fight that was in March next fight was June 5th, no, June 6, which is 5th, 2020, June 6, which is going to be five years damn near to the day I fight Maraub in the rematch, June 7th, 2025. First time I colored my hair, had the rainbow hair, and slept him. One of the most beautiful walk-off knockouts, in my opinion of all time. Just beautiful, slept him in the apex.

It was completely quiet. You could literally hear him snoring. Like, I, and it was, uh, that was. was when i was like okay i'm i'm gonna become a star like you've had so many those moments i've i always see the one i don't remember who it was but where he's laying down and you just walk towards him almost alma alma but that was how long ago that was that same year or no that was the next year i think that was 2021 that was the yeah it was 2021 because i fought eddie wineland then i fought cheeto that cheeto fight was a co-made event which was a huge spot for me ufc 252 i think i

fought co-main event and it was dc versus steepa massive opportunity for me and uh the the first fight with chito happened boom got finished and uh the next fight back was thomas almeda that was that knockout yeah you still see that pop up all the time oh yeah that one's legendary that's a one of the boy i knocked him out a few times like in that fight like that fight could have been stopped a few times i got a lot of shit especially from the commentators like oh he needs to get you know needs to get on top finish him and then i fucking land that punch like maybe he didn't need to do that so but yeah that one's that was legendary you got a good highlight tape bro dude before i got in the oc i would i would do interviews and i was like i just

want at the end of my career i just want like a 20 minute long insane highlight reel i want just a insane i want to have the most insane highlight reel and uh we're working on it i still got i'm 30 right now i feel like i still got minimum six seven years left possibly more the way i'm taking care of my body the way i'm feeling the way they stand healthy and uh i would like to fight and just until i fucking wheels a long time to think about it's like damn say you only fight two times a year in the next eight years like that's 16 more fights like that could be crazy but who knows you get you get to a certain point where you're so fucking massive like connor and then it's like some fights just don't make sense you don't want to

want to give that next guy an opportunity it's like things there those games be played and stuff but ideally i just you know stay active and uh you know keep ripping off wins also guys really quick we stock fulsend dot com with some brand new shit we have a ton of uh ufc fullsend shit you guys have been asking for this for a while fullsend golf stuff we have a ton of new fullsend golf polos they're amazing quality like straight up i rock these on the course all the time fullsend golf salim's in one of these every goddamn day all that guy does is golf and then we got uh some new hats we got some happy dad buckies i rock these fucking 24-7 ufc full send we got some just clean full send hats so there's a ton of new shit on full send dot com cop something rep the send let's get into the pod

how do you see your career playing out from now just dominating your division or would you still want to be double champ at some point i feel like over the next three two three four years staying at bantam weight, you know, there's going to be a point probably where I'm going to get too big and I can't make Bantam weight anymore. But right now I just feel like the division's so hot. I feel like it's a more

popular, exciting, more it's better than the featherweight division right now. So I'd like to stay there. It's so hard to, like we talk about Corey, Peter, Marab, Patsy Mix is now in the UFC. I mean, Umar too. I guess it's going to come back.

That guy's coming back for blood. dude there's yeah there's still the band of weight division is so stacked right now for me to be able to actually clean that out would be so legendary and uh that would be that's the goal just fucking not have it just not be questioned back damn okay

I mean for me to take the belt from Aljo who at the time was the greatest bantam weight of all time and the only reason he's not considered that anymore is because of what Marab's done in the last few years Marob now in my opinion and a lot of people's opinion it's the greatest bantam of all time what he's done so for me to take the belt off Aljo and then go take it off Marab It's like I'm just, you know, building that legacy, building that legendary status.

When do you head out there? We're going to head out next week, early next week. We're going to fly in and I'm pumped for this fight week. Like, Vegas, I always enjoy Vegas. Vegas is cool. I just feel like I've been there so many times to Vegas. Like, it almost just like, it doesn't feel new. So, like, when we fought in Miami, that was fucking so sick.

That was completely different. Fighting in Boston. Boston was all-time most legendary moment. Like the arena in there was so. so electric you can't even explain how crazy that that place was but I'm excited for New Jersey it's gonna be different New Jersey's gonna be rowdy too gonna be

it's it's right there New York's right there it's basically a New York fight it's like right across the street so Jersey fuckers are probably more rowdy too right like it's gonna be it's gonna be sick so I got a cool we got a couple little Airbnb's we're gonna be I'm pumped getting on the jet with the fellas

like there's that's some of my like the best memories is you know all of us meeting up getting on the jet flying to another place to go to war with the fellas is like especially putting in the work we've put in this camp it's like it's fucking it's gonna be uh it's legendary it's really hard to

live these last six months when you're off your phone bro my text were green to you i don't know if you had a new number i hope it was because you're off your phone no you i still used to chat a little bit not much but dude i yeah i've been just die gotta let sugar lock in you know course i only sent one text i've been i've been ripping some poker with the fellas though i have been i've been picked up a little poker and uh i enjoy that poker's a fun game it's crazy how much like skill there is involved in poker but there's also

still like a high level of luck oh yeah such an interesting professional game because like there's not a lot of luck involved there is luck involved in fighting but it's a lot less same with other sports but poker is like if you're running hot and you're hitting everything it's the best feeling in the world it's just it's fucking but you got to you have to have patience and you can't tilt because if you tilt you'll lose everything oh i know yeah that is true true no i've been there i've felt oh that rage you get when that river fucks you and you lose your money and you start playing every hand yeah good hand yeah oh no i've been yeah i've been ripping a lot of poker watching poker been uh it's been good it's been good but other than that fucking

yeah tim moved out i think might have been last year late last year yeah it was last year tim moved over so we're neighbors now which is fucking again that was one of like things because Tim and I lived at a shitty apartment when I first moved down here. So shitty. And like the goal was to like buy land and be neighbors. And we found the craziest spot out here in Arizona that has trees. It looks like kind of looks like from where we're from, Montana. Like there's big trees out there, super green.

How far is the walk to his house? Probably about three minutes. Do you guys ever hit a sleepover or not? No, probably not. Yeah. Yeah, it's weird. But I'm building a house right now, which is my house right now is close to him. but the house on buildings even a little bit closer.

And it's like from my back patio to his back patio, it's just you could see each other from the house? You could say what up. It's so sick. It's not. Me and Timbo, we haven't been doing our pod. That's another thing I took a little hiatus from us.

You just posted a vlog with Izzy, I thought. Yeah, we did it. Izzy came out. I was training with Izzy, yeah. Izzy came out. It was cool. He had to come out here and do some business stuff. He hit me up.

I said, you know, come up. He came and checked out the house, came and trained with us. That was cool as hell. Demetrius Johnson came by. last week uh shot a pod with him um trained with him dude's fucking fast bro it's just like a little any energy ball um that was cool but yeah tim and i we're gonna shoot a pod we did one pod i think like eight weeks ago nine weeks ago was to announce like the fight and then uh haven't done haven't

been doing pods lately which has been nice too because i felt like i was just sometimes when you don't have anything to say you just say stupid shit yeah and i would just say shit i just was like fuck i i just felt over giving my opinion on every single week trying to just make shit up to say so it's nice taking a break we're gonna do on sunday so you know talk about being champ is enough of our responsibility right yeah yeah becoming champ and staying champ is yeah the real reason i lost i haven't told anyone was just so uh i could get my belt to get a second belt not i don't even i don't know how that works i guess we'll find out but uh when you win the belt you keep it keep the belt and then it's always a new belt yeah i got so when you win the

Two belts. You get two belts. I got one belt for one that said Al Jemaine Sterling. Did we see it Al Jemey Stirling? That's the one I gave Steve. So that's a one of one that'll never be recreated. I gave that one to Steve. And then I kept the other belt. And the other belt that I kept and then I beat Cheeto, I get another belt. That's the one sitting up there that says Cheeto on it. But on my belt, I get another ruby.

So on the main belt, I get a ruby. So now that I lost the belt and I'm going to win the belt, I don't know if they give me another. I'll get another belt that says Marab on it And then I don't know if I get a second belt Or if they put another Ruby on the on the OG belt Yeah, I was gonna ask why do they give you two When you beat Aljo They're just different like it just says the it's different

It says who you beat the date of it Like it's crazy when I walked into Steve's apartment And I was like what the fuck is this I started looking I was like holy shit bro That's the real fucking belt I'm wearing this watch Steve gave me the first time We all hung out Oh my god is it?

Yeah That's the best fucking night of my life, bro. Yeah, that was, that trip. That was fucking insane. That was nuts, bro, playing baseball six, nine. Yeah. That was wild.

I don't never forget. That was, that was a weekend. It was Thursday, Friday, Saturday. Balls of the wall. A lot of vices back then compared to now, right? Oh, yeah. My 20s. That was pre-chance.

That was before you gave everything up. We were fucking. That was my 20s. I had to live in my 20s. Learned a lot of my 20s. Completely just settled in, family man, dad. You got to get the shit out of your system, too. You really do.

Like, you don't want to look back and regret shit. It's one of those things you can't, like people, like you could have a mentor that says, hey, don't, you know, don't do any of that. It's not worth it. It's just something. You got to go. You got to experience it. There's certain things. You got to get it out, I think. What else you guys got going on? You guys going to Egypt. Damn. The pyramids. Yeah. Pyramids. Are we going inside them? We're going inside. That's insane. We got some pranks planned outside the pyramids too. Are you nervous about that? No. Dude, the pyramid, that's one thing. There's not really, there's a couple things I want to do in my, in this lifetime. One is like be around monkeys that can, like, actually have. hang on you and like jump on you and like

I love that that's badass I want to do that bad like I want to be a Bali rip right yeah and then the pyramids I would love to see that that's that I love hearing like listening to Rogan bring people on talking about it's just like I love hearing that shit he loves talking about the pyramids it's so cool that's what got me into him honestly really to him yeah

because he's so obsessed with them and like how they were made yeah no one know and we can't replicate it now to this day which is fucking insane yeah it's crazy I was listening to Rogan last night he was talk about there's some nicotine pouches that are like 50 milligrams called the Pablo's. Where do you get those?

I don't know. I'm going to stay away from those. You should probably stay away from those. I told you, I ripped a 30. 50's a lot, dude. 30 fucking made me feel sick, bro. Yeah. I'm pretty soft with that shit.

I just recently started ripping little nickys. I have one in right now. They definitely fire up your brain a little bit and get you... Get you going. Get you going a little bit. It's nice just having it in your lip too. It does feel good. Just sitting there.

Putting it in there is fucking. Best time to have it's when you're gaming. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, gaming. That's another thing of the past. I bet that would have been bad for me gaming on those just that would have been that would have been bad sugar the fucking man sugar see you in a jersey baby oh we didn't talk about our workout oh fuck we hit up we hit a workout before this how did kyle do what was that workout

how did he do yeah that we busted out a little five-fives we're we're nine days out from the fight so we're like the intensity's still pretty high coming down a little bit main thing right now is just no injuries you don't want to get injured you this close to the fight don't get injured so the workout we did was still really really hard did five-fives, did like a circuit, grappling, Aridine versus a climber, the ropes, the fucking, you know, the weight stuff. But, uh, I didn't, I was focused on my own shit, so I didn't get a watch. But, uh, it was, it was, it was a hard work out of, bro. I was noticing that. Dude, you gotta be.

It's like, you gotta get your heart rate. It's like, well, I could tell you were, like, practicing for, like, the fight, too. Oh, yeah. You didn't even look his way, though. I saw when you guys would rest. Yeah, no, I was. You were trying to size him up, too. I didn't want to say anything, but he was.

No, I was looking out and to get the mess. if we're going to like give props and shit but sugar was just like doing deep breaths no the i mean when you do like a fight it's five minutes a one minute or breaks like your goal in that one minute is to get your heart rate from 180 190 to as low as possible that's the goal get as low as possible one 205 130 like get it as low as possible so it's like like that's what you do that's hard bro i feel like people shouldn't be able to comment on like an mma post until you do something like that doing that i i agree i like uh i sparred this frankie c kid the other day i don't if you guys seen that video i played him in poker i won and then he had to spar me we did

three threes but even doing something like that he came in he stayed tough he did good job but he sparred like i hit him with some good body shots was in front of him hit him in the head a couple times super super light but uh doing that is isn't even the next level from that but doing that i feel like's important for people to just like okay it's this that makes a little bit more sense like you were saying about getting up like how exhausting it i was fucking i thought i was like a decent wrestler just from like wrestling and fucking around with my boys but like dude that was

I watched that that was crazy but the guy there was no way out like there was actually like I tried everything yeah and I was gassed yeah so I was like fuck no that was good I love when people experience stuff like that I give them a whole another appreciation for actually what people do inside the octagon

most people 98% of people probably don't experience that ever and I think it's a did that guy have any fight experience who the Frankie dude no he trained for three weeks, he said. He just got in there and took body shots from you? I mean, we sparred three threes. Damn.

Did you see when they were punching our abs? No, I missed that. You missed that, bro. What were you doing? So we did the whole... Important calls. You were supposed to do it, too. You were supposed to do.

I had to do some shit, sorry. Next time. Just tell us what you had to do. Next fight, I'll be here. All right. We did the whole thing, and then we did abs at the end. They're punching this. And they said, they said, put their legs up when the guy stands over us and just

just starts fucking... Founding the abs, bro. Fuck, I would love to do that. I know. Okay, you want to fucking punch my abs a few times, bro? No, but... Other than that, I ain't got shit. June 7th, pay-per-view.

June 7th, New Jersey, it's fucking gold. Let's go. It's going to be electric. It's going to be. All right, thank you, Sean, maybe. We'll go.