FULL SEND PODCAST - "Sugar" Sean O'Malley x Nelk Boys | Ep. 21

Episode Date: December 16, 2021

Suga Sean on his Open Relationship with his Wife & Dana White Paying Fighters Presented by Happy Dad Hard Seltzer. Find Happy Dad near you http://happydad.com/find (21+ only). Video is available on http://youtube.com/fullsendpodcast/videos. Follow Nelk Boys on Instagram http://instagram.com/nelkboys. Part of the Shots Podcast Network (shots.com). You can listen to the audio version of this podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts & anywhere you listen to podcasts. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We want out! We want out! We want out! We want out! We want out! All right. We got the man sugar shone. Straight after the fight.

Mm-hmm. Congrats. Thank you. Is this... You guys want to smoke? I would love to smoke weed. I haven't smoked weed. Are you smoking?

I'll puff out the end a little bit. Let me stay sharp for a little bit. For sure. I've been high since my fight. I feel like fucking... So what have you been up to since the fight? Honestly, so we fucking Sunday morning, flew back, went and grabbed a good little breakfast,

little breakfast and then uh went picked up my daughter and really just been chilling at home not really doing anything last good last time did you go straight to Miami or did you like chill for the no last time we came back and then I think we went um Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday

and I don't know I can't do that again do yeah where was the after party by the way you guys all went out after I know I saw that yeah Zook that was pretty cool it was fun that was fun it was good vibe I was pretty trashed I was yeah the vibes were just so good all fight that it was just like camera right over

Steve put those gloves on to you didn't take them off punching brad love that shit is that the chain you got on is that Steve's chain did you through to you yeah so Steve Steve said he went to buy this for me

from uh he gave me this chain that night too what's going to all these fucking chains flying around left and right I mean what the fuck is Steve on here I haven't gotten any jewelry yet I've got I got shit what's the guy's time piece trading

or whatever yeah he said that Steve went to go buy it And that guy said, no, I want to gift it to him. So both those guys hooked me up. Yeah, that was cool. I fucking Steve threw it over and I told Tim put it on it. I'll put it on backwards too right in the cage.

Was that planned, though? Did you guys have that planned out? I didn't know. No, I didn't know Steve would do that at all. I had no idea. I just fucking saw him in his pink jersey and was just fucking yelling, let's go. So I guess that was sweet that you came. You were at the last one too, though, right?

No. No? I don't think so. No. Steve was. Who else was? 6-9 probably. No, 6-1.

I thought maybe it was just Steve Was that in Texas? No it was in Vegas dude My last eight fights I'm in Vegas Oh really? I'm only fighting in Vegas pretty much forever Really? I don't want to fight anywhere else dude

Why not? Vegas is Just where I don't know I feel like if I fight anywhere else It's just not gonna be this sweet You got that option though Dana gives you that option Or how does it work?

I feel like I'm in a good position To where I can Say I want to fight in Vegas Like that's where I want to fight Not Dubai? Dude fuck that You know the time difference that shit's crazy when I'm in Vegas

I'm dialed in my sleep it's like right now it's an hour different but dude I'm in Vegas I'm just dialed in it would be weird fighting somewhere else the Dubai is a mission yeah I guess I guess it's very quick you just go to Vegas and oh yeah 40 minute flight I'm there comfortable

not 17 hours nonstop having to take like seven Xanaxes to fucking fall asleep oh seriously you still have 12 hours left to fucking fly there yeah that doesn't sound that's what I discovered Xanax man that was the first time you ever took a like a light oh shit I've never done Xanax it's good for sleeping

I don't know if I'd ever take it for any other reason than that no if you're the only time you should be able to it's like that like a 17 hour flight just knocks you out or what it knocks you out you can probably take it then otherwise I think some people have some real problems with it

yeah it's probably something you don't want to like jump on to get hooked on Xanax now I'm more of it I was always more of an upper guy because Xanax made you leave what's that from made you leave from Dubai you flew and then you can't

no no no I left you're never going to be able to I'm never going to be able to explain anymore. Oh yeah, I've kind of heard about that a little bit. So Dana said he's going to start paying you now, is it confirmed? I still got, I try not to talk too much about it because a couple of fights ago, I had brought it up, and then I got in this little scuffle with the UFC, and it's just best not to bring up fighter pay or fights on your

contract. I mean, because no matter what I say, they'll be able to, someone will clip this and make it, say, a headline that's not true, and the UFC won't watch the video, they'll just watch the headline. and then it's bad news but I'm happy with the UFC I've got some more fights on my contract

I'm gonna fight my contract out and then I'm gonna we're gonna renegotiate with UFC and yeah Dana have you ever heard Dana say we're gonna pay this guy no ever besides Connor he said that about Connor I believe

he just said that in the post fight press conference he doesn't say that about much fighters but I he said that from my performances you know he didn't say it because I was on Twitter talking shit didn't say it because I was in on podcast talking about it and i had before and uh that ever you know so i i've just been going out there and performing three keos this year three fight of the nights or bonuses yeah um

i made a post today i said fighter of the year and then me and daniel were looking up like kamar oosman's spot like gilbert burns um masvital colby covington like so i probably a little behind there yeah for sure i think it's just funny i knew posting that people were gonna get piss like you haven't fought anybody but they're gonna comment and that works for me but yeah tomorrow's inspired your your fights are obviously fucking amazing but like one thing that separates you is you you seem to be like extremely smart with like social media and stuff like that right i noticed that too yeah like i mean that's obvious that's easy for us to notice so like how did you what's like your strategy with like social media and stuff like that i don't i don't remember

like when when i started kind of like figuring that part of it out it was definitely before I was in the FC posting like I realized when I would post a video of me smoking a joint or something like people it would get a lot of attention because it was I mean even this was like four or five years ago to where it was still kind of like what do you like I had people be like what are you doing UFC before I got signed like UFC's not going to like you're not going to get sponsors I would get called from like adults all the time like dude hey I don't think you'd be posting that because these are fucking stupid but I don't know where where it kind of just clicked but so for Instagram is just fun for me to think

of a caption, get a sick pick or a funny video, I think the biggest thing's comedy. Like, people don't want to see you just looking cool with chicks and money and like that, that can get you views, but comedy is going to get it. Dude, funny, you guys fucking know it better than anyone.

Comedy's going to get you the views more than anything. And knocking people out. It's pretty sweet. Yeah. No, I just think that's cool how, like, I feel like that's something that, like, even like, rappers or other fighters like, don't understand. Some people just don't have that, and you seem to really Like, I knew I'm not going to get into the UFC early and make a lot of money.

For whatever reason, I wanted to be rich. I wanted to have a lot of money. And I knew just fighting, at least for the first, you know, I've been in the UFC for four or five years. I'm not just going to be rich. I have to promote myself. I have to get brand deals. I have to get sponsorships. How do you do that?

Views, numbers, ad revenue, whatever it is. And I just, you know, it just made sense to me. It was almost common sense. Like, okay. You find your avenue. I'm not the most funny motherfucker but I can post some funny shit and figure out some shit

yeah so most of it it's pretty authentic too I am being myself I'm not trying too hard and I feel like people people recognize that when did you kind of start like Has anybody ever like came up to you randomly

not know who you are and tried to fuck with you to bar because that's what was interested to me like I look at you and I'm like if I look at you right now I'm like I think I can kick the shut of this guy yeah and that's like me not knowing what you actually do yeah and then I'd be obviously like really wrong You have fucking ashes all over your sweaty Oh yeah, I know, sorry

Not really You're chirping Sean saying you can knock him out No, I'm not saying please I couldn't I know I couldn't But I'm fucked up but I can still sky It's never happen when somebody goes up to you at a bar Doesn't know who you are and tries to fuck with you And aren't you like not allowed to fight them

Because you're fucking like a weapon or something I mean kind of technically I feel like Dude you've seen me drunk like Well you I was pretty fucked up Yeah when I'm drunk dude There's not a chance I'm getting in a fight

Like you just can't I don't know what you could do Maybe something with Switch if he said I don't know, but when I'm drunk, I'm just chilling, vibe and usually just being a freak. But no one's really ever fucked with me. I don't think I've ever... Oh, yeah, but that was not a club.

I want to hear the apartment store. This one's good. This one's good. When I first moved down here, Tim and I got an apartment. We can talk about how when I came down to. But when I first moved down, Tim and I had an apartment. I was 19 years old, skinny little fucking... I was just real skinny. He has tattoos and shit, and this Tony.

lived by himself had like nine cats was fucking jack he was probably what 40 40 years old jack bald like and he met us and he was like found out that we're fighters and stuff and that we can make money fighting i think i was still an amateur but uh he's like let's what how did you even get to that point he said he wanted to try it or yeah he didn't believe that i was a fighter and was tim worked at this ufc gym so they had a ring and we brought him over there not in like a mean He wanted to fight me He wanted to, not fight He wanted to spar

I fucking kicked him in the body And he shit All over the mat Like literally? Literally shit All over the mat Just like instant kick Like like

Like way it just came out of his pen Like we kept going We kept fighting I stepped in it Like Stepped in his shit It was horrible How did it just come out like that?

I just fucking I don't know what the fuck You just hit him in the right Is there like something That can trigger a shit Come out of your body like that? A shit spot? I don't know

Yeah And then wait So you actually Step in it and then did you go like No I step in it We finished the round And then Tim's like There's shit

And we thought it was by dog Because we recorded the video Like we had the video I wish we still had it Dude you gotta have it somewhere It was probably seven or eight years ago You gotta find that bro It was probably eight years

I was 19 I'm 27 8 years ago In the video you can We thought it was my dog My little dog was there So I had up cleaning it up I thought it was my dog We watched the video back

You can see the shit Come out of his shorts This is the most viral video Maybe on the internet I should have I can't believe it Post that on your gram There's not a chance we have

I don't even know What phone we used But that was fucking That was the only time Anyone ever kind of wanted to fight Me didn't believe I was a fighter Other than that I just

I don't I didn't really ever go out Last year I went out Started going out a little bit more This year after that last fight When I went out with Steve Was the first time

I really went out to clubs and shit So I've never really been fucked with How's that been partying with Steve and stuff Dude, Steve is an animal I heard that was a bendy Dude yeah Because we went out there Thursday

And it's like I'm meeting Danny 6 And meeting Steve Hanging out with the boys And I was like All right We're fucking full sending Every single night

And we did Thursday Friday Saturday We just went 10 out of 10 Hard as I could go Dude that was a calm down though That was like a fucking

That was like a four or five day Mental like Anxious depressed Like that was a calm down Because I was I was, you know, drink alcohol, a little fun party toys, you know what I'm saying? Yeah. So it was like, I did some shit.

And I was your longest span, like partying wise. Oh, yeah. How long was the bender? Thursday, Friday, Saturday, just going hard. That's like a short bender for Bob. That's fucking nothing. But then, but then again, like then the next weekend, we went to fucking L.A., then the next weekend we went to Cleveland.

Like, we went out like six weekends in a row. And it was just fucking tough on the body. But I got it out of my system because right now I just fought, I've noticed. desire to go fucking hard. You think you're getting smarter now with more success you have in the UFC and making like better life decisions as far as cutting down hard. I think so. I think my daughter's older now too. She's one. She's saying dad-da

like that's changing me as a person. So that helps a lot too. I think just I had to experience going out. Yeah. And I'm still going to go out. We're still going to go to the club. It's still going to happen. But not like it did. That was like fucking that was hardcore for me. But the fight you

the fight you recently just had, right? Yeah. Prior to that, how many days are you taking off? I was done 10 weeks, locked in, dialed in. So that means 10 weeks going to bed the same time every day? Dude, my sleep, I said it, there's a quote because I said it in like the before the fight that I have the best sleep in the UFC. I've been tracking my sleep for probably three plus years. I just got my sleep dialed in.

What time do you go to bed? Around 9.30, 10, but then I'm up around 7.30. I just wake up whenever. I don't really have an alarm. But I have, like, the sleep is the number one performance enhancing anything like sleep is where you can go work out have a good ass workout eat quality food but stay up all night fucking gaming you're going out doing whatever and you're not going to get a tenth of the benefits you would get from those that day of

training if you don't sleep and recover it feels so good going to bed early and waking up really when you're on that grind it's so dope i have the worst sleep schedule of all time and that it's hard for me to sleep that's why i'm asking like curious like when you sleeping's a skill when you wake up in the morning your sleep how you sleep is going to determine how your day is right if you're drinking too much caffeine is that's very true if you eat too close to bed my sleep was so good like like i said i tracked my sleep so when i was in fight when i was when i'm in fight camp i was pushing like three hours of deep sleep a lot of the nights which is it's a that's a lot of fucking that's where your body's recovering and your your muscles are

recovering but it's because i was cutting out caffeine you know i have one cup of coffee in the morning you have coffee has a half life of eight hours so you have a you have a cup of coffee at you know one o'clock at nine o'clock you're still going to have if you have 200 milligrams of caffeine at one you're still going to have 100 milligrams of caffeine in your body at like 8 p.m so cutting out caffeine at the right time not overeating your so your body's not digesting food while you're trying to sleep all those all those little things making sure you're hydrated when you go to bed you know blue light blockers watch if you're going to watch tv later at night make sure you cut it out a certain time there's so much shit that goes into

sleeping that it's a legitimate skill you can be good at sleeping do you ever listen to like ocean waves and like crickets chirping on the phone i do i usually play like uh there's this app 10% happier there's a lot of app yeah uh play a 30 minute meditation that'll guide you to sleep get you into your breath out of your mind because you know you lay down you close your eyes it's just fucking if you even do that some people just stare at their phone until they fall sleep which is you're not going to get quality sleep you're not actually get the REM sleep the deep sleep the sleep cycle that you need to get to wake up and feel good and and actually you have a You get all that blue light hitting you, right?

Just fucking sitting there surfing, yeah. I do Harry Potter puts me to sleep. Is that weird? Reading or listening? I just pulling like Harry Potter. You love Harry Potter. I don't know what it is. Something about Harry Potter reminds me home or something.

If I need to sleep, I just pop it on. I don't even think I've ever watched it. You never watched it? I don't think so. No. Well, what's it like managing, like, you know, fighting and then you have a daughter as well? Like, because you're sleeping very early. I bet you're doing a bunch of things throughout the day as well.

Dude, my girl is the best. Danny like she's we I slept in my in my own room the whole probably last three three and a half four weeks of because yeah Elena's won and she she breastfeed sales she'll wake up and want to suck on any tits and like wake me up so they've been sleeping in the other room so it's like she's been a fucking huge help to uh for for sleeping because yeah when with Elena like if she wakes up at all wakes me up the middle night it'll throw your whole sleep off sometimes you wake up and you can't fucking go back to sleep you know so it was nice having her to sleep in another room that's why when you have a daughter it's like everything's got to go away it's not about you anymore

shoot it's that true it's a fucking trip right now like it's different than when she was because i fought twice the beginning of this year and elana was a lot smaller she was she was like a baby baby like just tiny and i leave for fight week every tuesday tuesday before the fight we leave so the first two times leaving was was hard because she's just fucking a little princess but now like leaving this time like she knew i was like leaving kind of She, I mean, she's won. It was, it was tough for leaving this time. And that's another thing.

Like, I don't really want to go out. Like, I don't really want to go to Miami and then go to L.A. And then go to Cleveland. I don't want to be away from her. It's fucking tough. Like, she's, her teeth are popping through the top. Like, you miss. I didn't see her for five days.

And I swear she, like, you could noticeably see. Like, she's a bigger girl now. So it was like, that's what's really changing, like, a lot of shit for me is, is that. It's her. How long you've been with your girl? Yeah. Um, we've been together, does 20s. Seven years.

You're still with the same girl. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. She's the best. She's fucking awesome. Don't you guys have an old relationship or something? Yeah, I heard about that. Yeah.

I mean, it's, it's, I don't know about it. Everyone's, everyone has like a different take on what an open relationship is. I like to think of ours, like, just an open-minded relationship where we don't own each other. I don't own her and she doesn't own me. We've, we've, you know, we have to read. When you would go into something like that, it's like you look for other things, other people that have done similar things, books, podcasts. There's a lot of people that have done different relationships than just a monogamous relationship.

But when I met Danny, I told her, I'm like, I don't know why somebody would fuck the same chick for the rest of their life. Like, I can't do that. So me and Danny had, she knew, she didn't fall in love with a fake me. She knew who she was falling in love with. Because I was myself, I talked about chicks. I was just genuinely myself and didn't lie to her. I didn't say, like, I don't think about fucking chicks.

I was just straight up with her since day one. and uh yeah so i'd say our relationship is is open but it's not like people think it's not like i'm gonna leave here and go fuck a chick yeah what's your definition on that yeah it's just whatever whatever whatever happens happens it's whatever happens yeah happens happens obviously we take into consideration like if i go fuck this chick and then i have feelings for it's like fuck now that's gonna fuck up this whole relationship that's the coolest thing that's probably ever happened in our relationship like we've had some bad at like some dope threesome's like those are relationship should be okay with that like that's just needs to happen but when i was in at an

autograph signing or a uh fucking whatever meet greet and and wherever i was at i was sharing the stories when people when people come up take a picture and share it on instagram there's this hot chick and she shared it or no i shared it and danny was here and messaged me she said oh you should see if she's single and i mess i hit her i didn't think so she said that to you danny messaged me and said you should you should hit her up and i hit her up and smashed that night so like i wasn't going to hit her up because I didn't think she I didn't get that vibes from her when she told you to smash that out Danny messaged me and said you should hit her up see that's very interesting so that was probably like I was like that's that was sweet and I did it and then

I got back to Phoenix and she asked me said how to go and I was like yeah smash thanks and like she got a little dabbed each other up yeah oh yeah and she got a little emotional because she's like she was like it's just a lot of feelings come up when when you when you're going through a relationship like that and but that's how we've grown so much together is By doing things like that, having those uncomfortable conversations to where it's just hard to even talk to your partner about certain things because you don't know what emotions are going to come up. You don't want to hurt each other's feelings, but you also have to realize you're not in control of each other's feelings. Wait, so do you tell your girl, like, if you ever, like, I don't know, if you ever fell in love or, like, had feelings for another girl that you smash, do you tell her that? We broke up at one point for probably a couple months because I fucked up.

I was in Vegas smashed some biscuits and fucking you know dude sometimes that's the thing with me it's hard for me to put emotion out of it I smashed biscuits and I was like I like her

and I fucked up dude smashed biscuits not anymore since that since that time it has not happened anymore I feel like it definitely learned

from that and grew from that but uh what's that phone call like you gotta pick up the phone you'll say I just smashed a couple biscuits it wasn't a phone call it was like when I got off the plane call it was tough

It was there. She moved out. She moved out and we went our separate ways for a couple months. And then, uh... So it wasn't as open then? No, it was, but it's just, like I said, it was emotions come up to what that's going to happen. It's not just going to be like, hey, it's being open and it's perfect. We're going to deal with the emotions and it's fucking a lot.

It's probably harder than anything. Any, you know, it's harder than training camp dealing with those emotions. Like, so the insecurity and the jealousy that arises in you is real. It's crazy. But on the other side of that is fucking. a lot of happiness I wonder has she ever told you she smashed another guy and then you guys dabbed each other up

she hasn't she hasn't she hasn't smashed any biscuits before but she told me one time she because I was having I was I was I was hooking up with this one chick and and Danny knew we'd hooked up with her together at one point and uh she she was getting a little jealous she was

feeling those emotions and and she's like I want to have sex with with someone and you know him like it was a one of my buddies you know him and so i said i said who is it she told me i swear to god i message of that kid and i said you know what kind of relationship where then i'm not gonna be mad at you if it happened if she mess if she hits you up you have my word i don't know like that's that was it was that your boy you you got a good very like up front you always make things up the friend he's like wow but my but he he hit me back up and he's like he's like okay like he knows

what kind of relationship we're in like we're buddies and he he's He said, yeah, I'll have to think about this. We met up at a at a tea shop, coffee shop, talked it out. He's like, I just don't think I could do that. You guys went to a coffee shop? Talked it out, you know what I mean? It's important.

Communication. I love that. I love that. That's the thing we're lacking in most of them. And we talked about it. And I might take it a little bit too far. She never, she never hit him up and never went anywhere. But in my mind, I accepted and was okay with

if she were to do that, that it's because it's something she wants to do. It has nothing to do with me. It's not because I'm ugly. It's not because I can't fuck her good. It's not any of those things. It's because it's something she, it's one of her desires that she wanted to do. Thank God, right?

Thank God it's not that. You decided to ever get married one day and Zelle away? We've been married for like, we've been married for a long time. But it's, but for the fact that I was, I was okay if that happened, it meant a lot to myself that I'm like,

okay, I can get to a point where I'm okay, I'm okay with whatever happens. And that was powerful. one and me and her grow so much when we have conversations like that and things like this happen right now it's been a lot different we do have a little princess like she went through pregnancy she's insecure which i don't know why most girls are even when they're fucking hot like she's insecure because she had a baby all this shit so right now it's been different um it's been not i mean it's still open relationship like a fucking if there's a hot-ass chick if i go somewhere

to miami with the boys and there's a hot chick i'm smashing if i have the opportunity. She's a 10. That's fucking lit. And she's, Dan, we're not going to break up with that. We're not going to, we're not going to break up because I want to have, I hook up with a chick. That makes no sense. Why would we break up what we have, which is so fucking good because I'm horned up?

I don't know. How pumped do you get when she's like, when she wants to do the threesome talk? I mean, you guys have that down at T, so like how does that go about? Like, if you guys want to have a threesome. Yeah, dude, chicks are hard to find. Like, especially you were in Peoria, fucking Arizona. There's not a lot of chicks up this way. And we don't really go out ever.

so it is kind of hard to find we lucked out on Tinder once earlier this year you all went on Tinder yeah went on Tinder wow I love that bro this is a very straight up honest dude and I really love it big relationship

because everybody's kind of yeah this is great I know open relationships is always interesting and it's always easier for me to talk about when she's here because then it's like the question's like yeah well if you want to fuck a guy like I can't answer things like that for her but also it's like jealousy of

the biggest motherfucker in all of us guys I know Gabe probably gets jealous if he fucking I go old nuts too like I go crazy over I can't

He does? He don't He don't He don't know When I hear listen to pause Gabe's fucking smashing every Tuesday He don't smash

He don't smash In his mind Oh he doesn't actually close He's like Timpan He doesn't close the deal He just gets him He gets like makeout kills And shit

I don't believe that I don't know I don't know about that Gabe you need to get a couple of biscuits to you and F Yeah, you need to smash some biscuits here, soon, and Peoria. He's going to need a big biscuit.

Yeah, big biscuit. So you're big, you're big in a marijuana, too, though. I don't know if you were I talked about it. Yeah, I mean, I think fucking weeds one of the best medicines in this fucking earth. What do you use it for specifically? I think I use it specifically for... You get stone, right? Yeah, to get stone.

Mainly I use it at night. It really, uh, it helps me work. wind down it's like uh it's like my body knows okay we're winding down for the night smoke i do i have a hot tub and cold plunge at home that i do pretty religiously like in camp i hot tub cold plunge every night um about three weeks out i quit smoking because the fucking munchies dude the munchies will get you and you got a diet i got a diet in i got to fuck you feel like you're a big hot chito guy no dude i don't eat shit like that i eat pretty clean i eat clean quality organic and food that's you know whole foods for the most part i mean right now i'm fucking

I'm definitely eating a little bit not as good but I'm for the most part I'm eating pretty clean You smoked with Snoop? Smoked with Snoop Dude that was the craziest

because that was the night I got into the UFC That was the night I got signed by the UFC You remember that? Did you see the knockout where he went crazy? Yeah

One of the sweetest knockouts fucking just got signed of the UFC So I'm high as fuck off Just life in general And then I'm smoking in Snoop's trailer Just higher than fuck

Like the whole night That whole It just seemed like I was on a movie It was so Such a trip Celebrities is like Snoop too Yeah someone like that

You literally feel like you're in a movie You're like what the fuck's going on Yeah dude And like I walked out the trailer And there's like People like taking pictures and shit And I was like floating I felt like I was floating

That was a trip How long was the smoke session with Snoop Um We were probably in there 15 20 minutes Uh Could have been an hour I don't know Tyson didn't stop

Did you realize that throughout our whole two hour pot we sat down with tyson we got really really high with him and he smoked for two hours straight yeah i don't i couldn't i can't i'm not like that i can't do that a fucking a zonk out um yeah i mean should we actually talk ufc or is it no i i i wonder what when did that whole like cody garbent um start like because i i i seen you um you guys were about to do a face off right or you guys trying to dude i for me i mean this kind of goes back to like the social media effect of business stuff. For me, I saw it's on the press conference.

I saw the whole main card was on the press conference. So I knew my guy hardly speaks English. He's Brazilian. He speaks Portuguese. I'm not going to have too many good back and forth with him. I was like, okay, Cody, Cody's my target today. Cody's my target.

I'm going to steal the press conference. What am I going to do? Tim and I, we sit down and think for some ideas. I'm like, perfect. I'll ask Dana if me and Cody can square up. That'd be epic. We're not even fighting each other. And we've had beef in the past.

So, you know, that, that, and then, you know, just the one-liners. Like, Tim and I were at the hotel thing. You're like, what would be perfect to say? Then Tim said, I should say, he's going to be one fight away from the pod or the commentary booth. So just those little lines. One fight away from the commentary? He's one and six in his last seven. Oh, wow.

Yeah, he's lost a lot. Yeah. The thing is, he's a stud. And if anyone's going to come back, he could maybe come back. That would be tough, like mentally. Where's his head at? He's one and six? One and six.

Every time I hear of him, he's leaving. He's won one fight since 2017. I just remember him fighting Dominique Cruz. Look good. That was 2016. Yeah. Long time ago. So you think Dana's going to cut him off now?

Is he done? I think he still can sell a little bit. I think he's still somewhat of a star, but he might either retire. He's still young or, you know, fight again. I don't know. I have no idea. But yeah, will we, me and him ever fight? I don't know.

probably not the way his I mean that was at 125 that was a weight class below and that dude he fought was 5'4 I'm 6 6 baby

yeah you know what I'm saying who's your guy that you looked up to but I'd say pride Conner I didn't really watch you have C much

growing up I fucking thought the sport was disgusting like watching it when I was 13 14 years old I couldn't watch it I couldn't see them get kicked and punched

I just yeah kicks are like man it's brutal really And even still, I was like fucking crazy. Now it's different. But when I was young, I couldn't watch it. So I didn't really watch it growing up.

Pretty much started watching UFC when I moved here to try to get into the UFC. But it was probably Connor. Connor was, I think, fighting Max Holloway. So it was before Connor blew up. And I was like, he was captivating. I was like wanting to want. I'm like, dude, what the fuck? I want to watch his interviews.

I want to watch his post-fight conference. I want to watch. Who is he fighting next? I want to follow this guy. So Connor was probably the first guy that I ever was, like, interested in. You ever try and, like, steal any of his style when you... I would say steal it. style. I see what works. I see what

I'm curious what styles you use. He taught the whole game a lot of shit. He did. I mean he did before Connor blew up I saw myself as that kind of person to get into the UFC and kind of take it to a next level but it was sweet that Connor did it before me and I can learn from Connor. Connor's

a fucking legend. He's a genius marketer and I can learn from him. I wouldn't say steal from him but there's definitely things that he does that people like that I can do as well. I wonder if he'll ever come back, man.

I wonder. He seems like he's coming back. I think he will. Probably come back for that Nate trilogy. I mean, he's looking jacked. Yeah, he looks good right now. He looks beefy, dude. And I don't necessarily think, you know, if he's walking around, I think he said

189, 190, and he fights at 155. I don't think he plans on coming back to 155. He'll probably fight 170. Yeah. I saw you guys like Camaro on. Yeah. That was cool. Camaro's a fucking legend.

Pound for pound. Are you most comfortable when you're standing up striking? Dude, I'm a knockout artist. I'm a knockout king. I feel like, yeah, I'm definitely most comfortable when I'm standing up. But I also do a lot of grappling and a lot of Jiu-Jitsu, and I haven't even got to show any of that.

Fuck. And the big Steve. Just actually, no. Yeah, I mean, we'll see where my grappling's at when someone can take me down. Who is your one loss that you had? I haven't lost. He says you're 15-1, no?

Er. That was one you got hurt. Oh, that one's funny Yeah, I got kicked in this perennial nerve There's the nerve right here behind your knee And it made my leg go completely numb And I fucking had limp, limp foot So every time I'd step forward I'd roll my ankle

And I fucking blitzed this dude And threw some punches And I fell down on my back And he got on top elbowed me Ref stopped it So you don't really count it I see what you said I don't feel like I lost that fight

Because my skills were worse than his I think a freak accident happened How many thousands of leg kicks Hundreds of thousands of leg kicks have landed in the UFC And how many times does that happen It's probably happened three or four times So the that's the worst way to lose So rare

Yeah that's not yeah And it's like if I was fighting someone Then that happened to them I wouldn't I wouldn't be like yeah I beat that guy I wouldn't think that way I want to knock someone out I want the ref to stop

Because the dude's fucking crawling around His head's bobbling That's a finish That's a fucking win Not because someone's foot goes limp Yes, he kicked it But it's not like his goal I'm gonna go in there and kick his nerve

It's not, it doesn't make sense It was literally his big toe Hit some random fucking nerve back here If me and him rematch And he did it again I would be like That motherfucker He knows how to kick someone's nerve

That would be different But he hasn't done it to anyone else So it's not like it's a skill You know what you're saying? What's like you're behind the scenes like What is like Tim's role You talk a lot about him And, like, what's, like, your circle like

and, like, the different people you got around you? Yeah, that's a good question. So I kind of schedule my camps and stuff more so, like, a boxer than, like, a typical MMA fighters to where it's, I'm the main motherfucker. I'm what we're focused on. Like, you go to bigger gyms, it's like, there's six, seven fighters that have fights coming up.

Like, all the coaches are focused on them. Yeah, it's kind of weird. I'm my own dude. And I think that's kind of, you know, you take that when you're a champion that happens, people like that tends to happen I've been doing it for last for the last couple fights

I gotta fuck the best team I got Tim who holds Mitz he's more like the MMA coach who he's a black belt and jujitsu so he understands that he understands my striking as much as I do I'm like pretty much because he's held Mitz for me for so long

and so he's like the MMA overall MMA head coach then um so we hit Mitz once or twice a week and then you know he's always watching my sparring and stuff and then brandon harris who's my strength and conditioning coach who's just like honestly it's more of a friend now than a coach he's a fucking just a cool ass dude and really really really gives a hundred percent of his effort into making sure that i am

peaking fight night and my my weight's good we're not doing we're not lifting to we want to know my he he messes me every morning how'd you sleep what was your hrv what was your sleep score this is what you're doing today like he's like on top of everything i talk to him every day and then tankino uh who is the other guy in my corner won 80 cc world no gea i think in 2019 a couple years ago which means he was the best grappler in a similar weight class to me and he's around my size and he's my uh he's like he's tim's professor too who gave him his black belt uh so i just have a killer team around me and then i train at the mma lab here in phoenix and uh just have so many awesome sparring ring partners, guys that are in the UFC, Kyler Phillips, Mario Batista, Casey Kenney, guys on the

come up, Abdul. There's just so many people that I have, that are just such good training partners that I feel like I have one of the best teams surrounding me. How about like business wise and stuff like that? Is that all you kind of? Business wise? I would, yeah, I feel like my buddy Emron, who's like one of my main sponsor, Sanable, who's been with me probably longer than any sponsor I've had he's been my he's my right hand man like I he talked to him every single day

about uh about what's going on business wise and there's a lot dude nowadays it's it's every single day business all day which is which is tricky it's good but it's tricky when I'm in fight camp it's fuck with your head

it can fuck with your head and it's like okay there's a lot there's a lot going on that these this last fight I did really well kind of organizing that better um because the last four or five were pretty crazy and they just keep getting more crazy but this one i felt very comfortable with organizing all the business and not doing too much doing just enough but um yeah emeron's my my right hand man so who do you want next who's your perfect fight next yeah i said i got ranked today which is a big deal in some people's eyes to me it's

one of the dumbest fucking things ever rankings if it if the rankings were like more um if there was like an actual ranking system that made sense and everyone understood like okay you be this you get this but they're just made up for the most part like I'm number 13 now which is uh you serious it's just it's weird I've never in your weight class who's the number one in your weight class right now

Peter Jan Peter Jan the Russian dude you guys know yeah yeah I know that sounds fucking dangerous Peter Jan Peter Jan the little Russian dude he's about 5 5 he's uh you know that's the end goal I think he's I guess he's not the champ Al Jermaine Sterling's the champ right now but they're they're gonna rematch and

and decide who's the champ but yeah But the whole bantamweight division from 1 to 10 are really like the whole top 15s of fucking, it's stacked. It's the best division in the UFC right now. You think you're at that level right now where you could take down the number one guy? Dude, I feel like I'm 27 years old. I don't think anyone has better striking than me. I believe in my grappling and I have a championship mindset.

So yeah, I think I could be, I in my mind am the champ right now. And people ask me why do you think you're the champ? and it's because if all of us fought at the same time you can only pick one person to watch everyone's watching me so so realistically how long you think it'll take and what needs to happen for you to be able to fight that guy that's number one

whatever he's Peter fucking young probably win two more fights win the next two fights and I could be fighting for the belt um that that's realistic I don't know how much longer this last weight cut was pretty fucking dialed in

the ones before that I would have said I'm probably going to move up to 145 soon because they were so fucking brutal. But I was walking around a couple pounds of less this fight camp, which was just being more disciplined on my diet. So this weight cut wasn't as bad, and I'd definitely be able to fight at 35 a couple more times before I move up. Can you talk us through how that works? Like weight cutting and shit?

Like weight cutting? Like how much weight do you cut? I see how a torch, like, a lot of people are going on. I hired a guy in Dan Garner, and he helps me just dial it into a, you know, We're measuring out every single meal, you know, four ounces of, four ounces of chicken. Like when does that start, though? Like, is it all campers? Yeah, about six weeks.

Six weeks before you start cutting? Yep. And then I cut carbs out about, this time it was like eight, nine days out before weigh-ins. So cutting carbs. No carbs at all. Cutting carbs is the, and still training. That's fucked. It's fucked.

It sucks. You lose, you feel, you just like have an energy dump. You're not rehide. Your muscles aren't fueling. Cutting carbs is tough. So I do that around 154 pounds-ish, let's say. And then I cut carbs in a fight week. So I was walking around one, what was that fight week?

149, fight week, so Monday. And I'd log all this every fight. 14 pounds in like one week? Yeah. And then, so Tuesday, and so Sunday, Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday are very important days for water logging. Just fucking drinking 6.7 liters of water, which is. like almost two gallons of water which is

that helps get the weight off and then Thursday cutting salt and cutting water so I'm just fucking pissing all day do you guys like shit a lot too once you cut carbs

you're not really shit in all your food not like the guy in the ring right you're just yeah not like the guy in the ring not quite all the food you're eating is going to your body refueling how much weight you're losing the last day so when you have to step on that scale

so Thursday night I cut five pounds in the in the hot tub sweating just dying you're laying there fucking feel like you're dying and then then i woke up and cut um i floated one pound overnight and then i cut two pounds just one point eight pounds friday morning so you're weighing at nine i woke up six 37 and it took me about what 30 minutes to cut 30 35 minutes to cut what do you do to cut that last a little bit get in a hot fucking bath fill up that bath sit in there we did 10 minutes sat in the sauna for um 10 10 10 10

minutes and then lay down and get covered with towels and just sweat it out. It's such a weird experience that everyone should do because you feel like you're dying. You can feel your heart and it kind of hurts and it's pounding and you're just, your head kind of hurts. It's scary. And then how do you fucking scary? And then the next day

you're just fighting after all that. Well then you weigh in at nine and you start rehydrating you start you start drinking a lot of liquids like you crave food at that point. You could give a fuck less about it. You just want to drink water. You just want water. You just you hydrate really well and then throughout the day you just like you don't feel fucking full dude

you could eat all day and if I'm like pull the trigger to just make weight like last minute just throw up no you can't you probably wouldn't be able to throw up after sweating as much as you do

you have nothing you can't pee you can't shit you can't spit your mouth is so dry how much do you gain on fight night so I was I was standing

on the scale with my shoes on and what was I 156 1-56 so I gained about 20 pounds give a day. Oh my god. 24 hours. Yeah. 20 pounds? So isn't it

15% right? Or usually that's 10%? Usually I weigh that much pretty much that day and a half by the time you're Friday. So I weigh it Friday at 9 a.m. usually Friday night because you're so, you eat all day, drink all day. You usually gain about

I'd gain about 20 pounds back. Damn does it kind of hurt your stomach though after you like when you're eating? Yeah you got to be careful with what you can't eat shit like I'm not eating fucking Cheetos and yeah and uh just pizza like some people do i see fighters fucking eating waffles and pizza after way ends and like not so

much anymore as like as much but you still see fighters doing that and that's such an important part of your performance what you eat and rehydrate with is how you're going to perform the next night um so yeah dude saturday with the like you wake up i wake up eat like we go work out in the morning just like a light get a sweat go and get them blood flow and get some

the food and everything moving and it's like you're sitting there for fucking hours just waiting because i fight at seven so we we get on the bus to go over from the hotel at 430 and it just takes all fucking day you feel like you're sitting there forever just waiting to go fight it's such a weird day it's a trip oh man what made you do the hair thing the colorful hair um just that was so when i thought eddie wineland there was the first time i did my hair i did the rainbow hair like i did like a similar hairstyle like six nine it was it was uh i had thought about doing something like that and then

we're i was gaming with my buddies and they're like you should do your hair like that i'm like fuck yeah i should my girl dan she does hair for a living it's her profession she's a fucking black belt at it she loves doing hair so when like i tell her let's do something crazy she gets jacked like she gets excited to fucking come up with these different hair styles and and colors and shit so and the fans love it dude every time i fight people like what a other hair yeah it's like your signature thing now people fucking love it dude And there's so much you can do with hair Like it matches my merch a lot of times

I'll do merch drops with it It's fucking It's just marketing How much would have somebody Have to pay you right now to shave your head Shave my head Right now somebody was like Hey I'll pay you X amount

To just shave your head And you can't have the rainbow thing Well it'll grow bad I can see a ball Yeah he'd have sauce Dude how much I went to a boot camp When I was 16

And I had like a fro And they fucking just buzzed it I used to rock the fro Fro's nice Chicks loves a fro dude Two male oh really that high probably something like that maybe a mill

I don't know it'd be tough yeah but it's a part of your thing now you're you're that's your that's your that's your yeah no the hair people love the hair so back to the business shit what do you what other kind of stuff do you want to achieve besides just like obviously becoming champ like is there any other business ventures you're looking to get into

and stuff like that I think the big the one that'll probably be the biggest hasn't happened yet and that's going to be a strain a certain strain the sugar strain yeah it's perfect it's it's it's it's getting into that that business is like we've tried it a couple times

but it's tough there's a lot of things you gotta figure out like laws federal law like the weed game's tough I think that's something I definitely want to get into but you have to pick the right people the right partners get into it so weird how it's federally illegal here but not ship it here and there's a lot of buck yeah a lot of shit

must be a pin in the ass but I think that's gonna be like similar to the whiskey Connor's whiskey I think that could be my fucking my 100 million dollar yeah 100% so you guys have tried to do it but it just we've tried to and you know it's it's tough you just gotta be you gotta and I'm waiting for the right people

to come around you gotta be patient way for the right partners to come along exactly I'll learn as you go yeah for the most part everything else is like I've been I've been selling shirts merch since I was an amateur back in Helen Montana where I'm from I'd be like I'd sell 100 shirts and I'd be like holy shit so I've been doing merch for like a long time

so now it's nice to be able to have a company that can you know supply like demand or supply everything and take care of all the shipping and all that stuff so merch is like one of my favorite business things that I'm like always a part of with like what's it going to look like what colors are we going to use

what are we going to come out with is that like a bigger business than the actual like pay right now or is it like similar I'd say it's pretty similar yeah I'd say total this year I've probably been half and half like half UFC I've made half of money UFC half

sponsors, business stuff. Are there restrictions around what they allow you to do the UFC with merch sales? No, I haven't ran to do any issues. I know they sell their own sugar shone-o mallee merch, but I always tell people to fucking buy it for my shit rather than, because I think I get like such a tiny percent of their sales.

But yeah, it was cool because this fight was like the first fight. I did the press conference, the way ends in the fight, like looking out into the crowd, seeing a shit ton of sugar merch, And it was, that was the first time I really had seen like, damn, that's, that's pretty cool. That was fucking sweet. How about the NFT shit?

Is that, you just launched that? Yeah, the NFT, that was what I was telling you, Emron, my right hand man. Like, he's, we've been, we've been diving into the NFT world. And it's a fucking, it's a crazy world, man. It's like, I'm still learning more about it, more about it. But really, it's just creating a really, really cool community. Like, we're growing our Discord,

and it's like a cool way to talk to fans that on Instagram, you're going to have haters on Twitter you're going to have haters even when I go on Twitch like it's not just sugar fans it's haters Discord is really the only community we've built that's just

fucking sugar fans like it feels like a sweet family in there so yeah the NFTs and the Discord has been going hand-in-hand promoting it in there and stuff but it's cool that we're going to be able to do sweet things

with the NFTs as far as incentive-wise you know certain NFTs are going to have different different benefits you know you can win I was gonna give my gloves away but I had to give them to fucking Steve dude how to give them the Steve

but given away giving my fight merch tickets to the fights flying people out I've flown so many people out like from my Twitch subscribers to fucking come hang out like I fought one of my Twitch subs in my cage like I didn't hurt him but yeah it's on you it's fucking dude you gotta watch the video

it's so funny but uh yeah so shit like that I'm really gonna get excited about that because those are gonna be the genuine sugar fans that are that that are just part of the rise dude and yeah the NFT project's been doing really well

and it's continuing so you guys want how many did you launch you know we launched 9,999 so and I think we might have done the 10,000 where it was like the one rare the one rare one but they're all

there's different categories whoa no he's pulling up the oh dude that we did three three minute rounds and we had Tim ref and it was the funniest shit ever and I give him shit

I see Bob over here vaping sucking on his vape pen I always give my buddy this kid was a Twitch subscriber from Canada Flew him down fucking smoked with him hung out, stayed at my house And it was just fucking hilarious dude This was probably three years ago

Oh wow What are you giving right now You're giving like 5% effort during this? Five's accurate yeah Just let him feel good Like he's for a little bit But it's funny because I always make fun of him For vaping I'm like dude

You're gonna gas out No he won't And he's dude He was a minute and a half Two minutes in he was trying to quit Tim's like nope You can't quit So we made him do the full three, three-minute rounds.

This is funny. He tried to take me down and runs in the cage. This shit's so funny. By the end, is he just dead? Oh, yeah. But not from me hurting him, from fatigue. But then I flew this kid, the same kid out earlier this year, actually like two, three months ago. Before I went into fight camp with another buddy, whose name Schmitty, he's 6.7.

How big is he? 300 pounds? 300. 320. And he and this kid fought on, on. I'm not, you're just toying with them. Yeah, it was funny. But I had a, we had like a whole...

That was actually a real punch. That must be dope. You're giving more than 5% a little bit. No, no, no, no. Are you missing on purpose? I was just tapping him. I wasn't hurting him hard. You see what I do to people?

It fucking wouldn't be standing there if I was hitting him hard. Do you say your cardio's good? My cardio is good? Yeah. I mean, I broke last little fight before that. I think I broke the record for the most significant punches

thrown in three-round fights. So I'd say it's pretty fucking good. Have you had a five-round fight yet, no? No, five-round fights are main events and championship fights and I don't want a fucking five round fight they're gonna give me like 20,000 extra dollars to go fight basically another fight 10 minutes

I'm like I'm not gonna fucking do that But eventually you're gonna have to have a 5 round fight Yeah I mean I mean There comes a point where you don't You can't say no to the UFC You know what I mean like I'd rather not fight five rounds Unless you want to pay me a fucking lot more money

Because you know how much more training is gonna go That was like a 10 week camp for 15 minutes I mean that's a hard camp I think, though, with the level of cardio and I could have went five rounds just because when you're in there, you have, you know, I'm not going to give up. I'm not going to fall.

You're going to fight. But five, five, five is a long, that's 25 minutes of fucking fist fighting. So I'd like to be paid to, if I'm going to do that. That's very understandable. That's a long time to fucking fight, dude. Yeah.

And you think about the guys you have to do it all the time. Yeah, like, Camaro? Like, that's fucking nuts. That's just normal to them now. Yeah, yeah, for sure. I mean, I mean, it's dope. to know, though, that you could, like, whoop someone's ass, though.

Yeah, I mean, it is fucking ass. Knowing that you fuck someone up. Yeah, it must be cool to actually, like, walk in a room like this. Like, you know, you can whip my ass, who are, everybody's supposed to, yeah, you don't, it's like, that's like, I mean, it's like, that's like, I mean, I'm sure there is some guys, like, there's some fucking, like, I'm just like, weird dudes that do think like that. Like, they're just, like, I don't know why, but I just never really thought like that. I've always just been, I feel like I'm a normal fucking little dude. Where'd you learn to, like, to start on the street, like, street, like, look at him? no i'm curious how like one learns to let what i'm high i'm sorry no yeah that's i mean that's a good

question i feel like i learned how to fight from just being a fucking athlete and playing basketball football soccer and baseball where i was every fucking season i was doing something since i was three four five years old i was constantly playing sports and then when i was 16 i tried kickboxing and i was like naturally pretty good at it probably not technically wise like that wasn't throwing a perfect one too and a fucking i wasn't doing things technically right but i was sparring guys. I've been knocking like grown men out. I was 16 years old for what I just have that

I don't hit hard it's just timing and speed and that equals fucking power. It's like it's like the Diaz guys right? They don't yeah a little bit but they're they're they throw like they probably throw their punches 60 70%

most of mine are like 100% like a lot all my shots are power shots like I'm fucking cracking you pretty much every shot if I'm landing on you I'm going to crack you hard, towards theirs was more output, but less power, which is can still be just as effective. Right.

Just damaging over time. Yeah. I know you guys had Giovante on. You guys watched his fight. I didn't see his fight. I didn't see it. No, we were... Dude, that year away. I heard it was really close, though. Yeah, I heard that I heard that too. Dude, that dude, that dude he fought was shorter than him. Wow.

Javonte, dude... That guy hits hard, though. Yeah. Did you ever see the video his fucking hands? When he was doing that? When he said that, he would, if, he would, if, he would, if, he He's from the hood. That's how he'd wrestle. That was the funniest fucking thing ever. If he actually grappled with someone,

like he said he'd come to MMA. If he took one class at a fucking amateur gym, would he be gashing? He would be like, what the fuck? I would never do that. It was funny to see how delusional he is to think that he could come into an MMA fight

and be at any successful at all against, I mean, an elite level fighter. I wonder if a boxer will ever, it's happened in the past, but I wonder recently if anyone will ever come into MMA like a boxer. The only way they would

is if they have a wrestling background. Would there be still be like a lot of money in it if they came to M.A? If they were a massive star, Floyd came to MMA, I'm sure Dana would have a way to pay you. But it would make sense. They're not trained in anything to box their whole life. So they can only use their hands. You guys, you're working on everything.

Yeah. Jervante would, I don't think Javante is a big enough star, but Daniel would be like, no, we don't fucking want him. But for for me to box Dravante, that's a massive fight someday. Like, that's a massive fucking fight someday. That's a Floyd-Connor fight someday, potentially, if we're on the same path.

If we've got to both continue, like, we haven't done enough. Like, he hasn't done with Floyd's done. I haven't known what Connor's done. But if it keeps going, like, I don't see my career going any different. I'm going up. I can see him, you know, keep beating people too. It could be a massive boxing fight someday. How restricted are you, though, of, like, you're going off?

It would have to be, like, the UFC deal with, like, Connor did. Like, Connor was still signed with UFC. It was like, Dana still got paid. Like, it was like, it would have to be something like that. But, dude, I can box. I can fucking box. Like, actually box. I have that combo I threw up against the cage.

There were no kicks there. That was boxing. It was clean. Does it bother you that you were, like, that restricted by the UFC at all, ever? You can't, like, go off and, like, so it was YouTube drama or something, somebody wanted to fight you. There was two million on the table. Does that bother it all that you're that restricted by the UFC?

No, just because they've given me the play. platform to be able to do what I've done that like dude I wouldn't be able to do be where I'm at with the UFC I wouldn't be able to perform in front of that many people that's what I love doing is performing I fucking love being in that cage knowing everybody's fucking watching me like even people at home they're not fucking surfing their phone or eating fucking pizza I bet they're sitting there like what the fuck's this kid gonna do so I just love performing the fact that I can do that with the UFC and they've given me the opportunity this many times to keep doing it

I'd say no UFC's sick man Dana's the fucking man Think about how far It's calm But even talk shit on Dana's a fucking piece of shit Dana's the fucking man And it is true what he says

Like all the other leagues Are just like Going out of business sale Every time They are They are They're so authentic You know

Like the UFC has to like The thing about fighter pay too Is like If you get some guy Who's not gonna sell tickets To the fight Probably has total of 30 fans It's like

you're not going to pay him and he's just getting to the UFC and he's making because you make 10,000 to show 10,000 to win when you get into the UFC like they're a business

you have to be making them money for them to pay you which is fine which is fair and understand them more that's why he's a lot of shit for it and then like he said something about he pays more he pays better than most

boxers which is true like you go on a boxing card you might make 500 or 600 bucks unless you're the main event yeah you got to prove you up here to make at least 10 and 10 and you just got to keep

fucking doing sweet shit and you will. Connor's been paid, Ron has been paid, John Jones was fucking paid apparently not enough. Like, if you're doing the right shit,

you're gonna get paid and that's kind of where I'm at. Like, I just need to keep winning. I just need to do that shit. You still looking for a bag from Dana or what? No, I think I'm just gonna let that slide.

I think Dana knows we have a mutual respect. I was sitting next to Hallie Berry at the fight too, by the way. Oh, really? Right behind Hallie. I saw you got a photo with her. I did. I tapped on the shoulder.

At that last fight? Yeah. Yeah, I was right behind Hallie. That's fucking sweet. I saw her, I was watching, I've rewatched, I watched all my fights, like, it's all I've been doing is fucking watching my fight. You ever, like, look at her and wink after, like, you maybe knock out. I should, I didn't see her.

Last time I saw Bebes at the fight, though, and that was probably one of the sickest moments because he was standing up when me and this kid were just in a fucking flurry and I was dotting him up and Beavis are standing there. I went and rewatch the video. That was probably the sickest part. You're from Canada, eh? Yeah. All Americans laugh at that. It's just such a funny, like, lingo. Well, I talk, I play with my, dude, I've strived.

stream every fucking day. Like I'll do you. Throw on your headset and like that kid I sparred right there. He's from Canada. So I fucking, we just, I just do it to him all fucking, the whole gaming session.

I even talk like that. I'm around these guys all the time. It's just fun, eh? We literally get people like saying it, like Americans and shit now. Dude, I say like not even meaning to

when I'm around him. Just like, should be just normal. I feel like I'm not in the norm when I hear you guys talk like that. I'm like, fuck, I gotta start talking like this.

Dude, being at the club after the fight was one of the weird because I was sober. When I got there, I was sober. Sitting at the club, just having people staring at me and just recording. I'm not doing anything.

It was so fucking weird. Like, just like, for 20, 30, like, an hour. There was this kid, huh, Daniel? Just didn't stop staring at me. Just like this. I couldn't believe I was standing there. It was so fucking weird. She gave him a hug.

Well, I ended up taking a picture with him, but he was just like, it was crazy. Has, like, any weird shit like that happened to you with fame or fans? Nothing crazy is really... Dude, someone who's like at my house the other day my driveway waiting for me to come outside for me to sign shit.

That was fucked. And I'm not going to say no, because I'm like, you know's where I live. We've had people jump over our fucking garage and shit. That's weird. That's weird. I don't like that because I have, like I said, I have a family now.

It's not like Tim and I live together and it's like whatever, dude, fucking... I think I'm a family. That was trippy. Most people are cool. Then there's just that one out of a hundred or a thousand that's like just has no fucking... Yeah.

If they're fans, yeah, typically fucking cool. I don't think they realize it, though. Most fans, I don't think they realize what they're doing. I mean, imagine just, like, meeting someone that you really, really look up to. Like, I get where they're coming from, you know? For sure. It's just, like, delusion sometimes. Well, you have that many people following you, like we do.

It's like, there's definitely some fucking Jeffrey Dime's a serial killer out there. Oh, God. Shop us up. That's the fucking truth. Dude, golf master over here, huh? Oh, yeah. Just loving it? You golf ass?

No, dude, I've never golfed. No, dude, I've never golfed to, and I've wanted to, and I feel like I'm going to, too eventually, but I also fear I hear how obsessed you can get with it and it's like kind of dangerous. I'm at a point right now where I'm, I don't see myself stopping at all. Yeah, so that's where I'm like I was telling Tim like, well, probably golf and we're older

fucking smoke a joint, cruise the caddy, like just fucking kick it, but I don't want to get obsessed with it right now. I gotta play Bob. You will though, you will get obsessed. You guys? I'm going to play all day, but I'll know. That's the first? I heard you were better at you have no fucking chance. I beat Kyle. Really? Yeah. But I played really bad, but no, he beat me. No way. So he's actually improving. He can actually

play golf now? Well, if you think about golf, like, I'm not that good of a putter. I gotta get way better at short game for sure. You're missing, like, when you're hitting the ball, like, your miss is fucking flying all over the places. It's going straight, wherever I want. You watch it on, like, YouTube shit? I watch golf all day. Yeah. I just love the game. If you watch shit, like, I found that out, too, with, like,

kickboxing or jiu-jitsu or even fucking Call of Duty. Watching the high-level people do it is just as important as fucking doing it yourself if you're trying to improve it something. Watching it on YouTube, watching it, fucking golf channel whatever. I just love it. You're gonna prove fast that way.

Did you meet Tiger? No, man. You were drunk texting me there or something probably because you told me through this whole thing. You met Tiger. No, I met Tiger. I'm like I met Tiger. I fucking all this stuff. I what like It was going to happen. It was going to happen but we had a COVID test. The difference was going

to happen and then you texted me. I thought it could happen. Because okay, look, it was a, it was an instant like we were going to dinner. We were going to go after to the hotel. We were going to meet him, but I went late. Okay. Because I went late to the dinner. which made the dinner longer.

Because they're like, oh, we already ate, but we'll wait for you guys to eat. And then, like, we're at the hotel at fucking 12 at night. You know,

Tiger's not coming out that time. Yeah, he probably out. I was two stories below him. I was like two stories. They were telling me, like, Bryson and them were like two stories below,

Tiger. I mean, Tiger knows that I take down some fucking biscuits. Tiger hits some tuggies, dude. Tiger hits tuggy, no doubt.

You got your girl now. Do you still hit tuggy? I mean, have you? Can you or no? Are you still with your girl? Yeah, yeah,

Yeah, I'm dating here. No, I haven't been to Tuggy in a long time. I just get random urges. Like, there's so many around here. It's crazy. The ones that jerk you off at the end? No. Oh.

We got like an hour to kill after before the flight, right? Should you go try to Tuggy, Gabe? You get Tuggies? Oh, you're probably just lamps. Like, this doesn't work. Steve tried to take you. That's funny. But no, good old Tuggy never hurt.

Yeah, they still exist. Like, they're everywhere. There's a lot of, like, happy ending places. Oh, dude. like the OG tugging. I used to think it was a bit. I'll be honest to you, I've definitely gotten happy endings before, but I'm not like, no, it's not my thing.

It's like a once in a while thing. Yeah, it's a once in a while thing. Sometimes it's a twice or three times a week thing for me. It just depends what I'm feeling. Depends what day it is. You can go on like a tuggy bender. Well, my first tuggy, I was like, oh God, dude, I'm gonna fuck. I'm obsessed.

Went like two or three times that week and then I was like, okay, I'm good. I think I was like good for a month or so. Yeah. Then it's just like if you need a little stress. It's dangerous when there's one right by like beside you. an OC, there's not one. So I haven't been in like months, but in our old house in LA, it's literally like a five-minute

fucking drive. That's dangerous. Like if you struck out the night before, you wake up, you're hung as fuck. You're like, fuck, you know what? I'm going to tuggy and grab some starps. Yeah, dude. You know what the thing is? Like, sometimes you just need a bust a nut to get some clarity. Then you're good. Then you can start thinking about business and start thinking about what shit you've got to do for the day.

But if you wake up and you just, I mean, you can do it yourself, but why would you do that? Sometimes you can just eliminate the massage, too. you just go right in for the tugging. Oh, yeah. Do you? We've got a couple extra hundred laying around. I like to enjoy the massage stuff.

See, the thing is I do too. I enjoy the massage. The buildup. It's like the buildup. I mean, the best tug is when you get, like, it's the massage and then you get a good tug. Yeah, but sometimes you're like press the time and like, you know, you like, Tim likes to just get in and get the tuggy. No, Tim's more of a guy that's straight to action.

Tim asks the girl if he can massage them. Tim gives them a massage. I think the buildup is the best part. But I've had one instance where I have walked in, laid down, started doing a thing. and I'm just like, let's be honest. I got to go. Let's fucking wrap this thing up real quick, all right? Fucking bang me out and I'm out of here.

Here's a hundred bucks. Yeah, I took a couple of my buddies, my Twitch guys when I flew him down recently to the tugging. Oh, dude, it was legendary. It was so fucking funny. They were just like, they don't get laid. And they, oh, it was funny, dude. The smile on their face walking out.

Imagine being that lady, though. I mean, the guy just giving tan jobs all day. I know. We're always like Asian ladies. I respect the hospital because guess what She like they They love it They're into it

They are And if they weren't it would be weird They love it If it was like I don't want to do this I'm like oh whoa That would be weird But they've always

Oh okay You're cute Well because they're probably used to just getting Like old fat guys too right So like when young guys walk in They're probably like Oh this is not that bad This is like a good day on the job

Yeah Because they probably get some regulars Like the guys that come Every day after work and shit Sweaty rags Oh God fuck you can still get in trouble

for going those things right allegedly allegedly if I ever got like get a tuggy I would

have been the funniest prank on Bob I wouldn't be that you wouldn't get me you should do that to someone imagine a mug shot that would be good that's a good

bring some full send guys down say they won and then fucking oh that's that's good that's gotta be up there for next bid fuck because you can actually

you can't really like the real tuggy plays though and like person ain't that's just too much can't disrupt a business. You got to respect that. That's mean to them. Like, they run a fucking organization. It is probably illegal, right? Didn't that Patriots guy get

fucked? Yeah, yeah, Robert Kraft. Yeah, they had like 30 names, yeah, Robert Kraft. You got in trouble for getting a tuggy? Yeah, he got caught him. He was on the list. They were monitoring the place for like a while. Was it a tuggy or was it a brothel? Probably a brothel. I mean, I think that they were pretty much willing and able to do whatever. Robert Crafts walking out with a billion dollars.

I think they're going to do whatever the fuck he wants. How's full send dot com going? It's going really good. Is it going good? I mean, that's sweet. Because you don't have, you guys can post whatever the fuck you want. There's no censored shit. It's not going to be like, damn, that's sweet, especially with the content you guys posted, but that's nice. Because YouTube's cocksucker sometimes.

We're doing a lot of the giveaways too. That's nice. So that's cool. So we brought two fans to Cancun with us. Fuck, dude. Everyone we brought out has been really cool. Well, that one kid was fucking hammered to think, wasn't he? That was the Howlerhead winner. Oh, okay. Dude, that kid was like...

At the fights? Yeah. He was just too kid. Really nice kid meant well but just pretty fucked up early I was just like watching it the main card hadn't even started this kid was just on another planet I know that was a howlerhead Hallorhead guy Phil said enough to do with that

Dana's a great guy he lets people just get fucked up the winners damn it's hard when you're at the fights to not get too fucked up before the main event so you gotta because you can drink at the fights you drink take another one it do take a long time for the main event to come yeah you gotta get there at the main card but also the buildup is fun too like I mean

it is it is I never take for granted I'm always like shit this is like it definitely builds up. This is the coolest thing in the world. It is dope, like just right in front front. It's the sickest thing to be able to go sit front road. One thousand percent.

Like the biggest blessing ever. It's also the sickest event to fucking go to out of any sport. All time. Like, let's be honest. It's gladiator shit. You know, it doesn't have to be like a cream of the crop. Like you go anywhere, you buy a ticket anywhere to the UFC.

You're going to have fucking maybe the best time you ever had in your life. It's crazy when you know someone, even if you don't, aren't best friends with them, but you know someone that's fighting, the anxiety you can. can get you're like oh like you get

my little brother was about to prepuke-ish like you're on the verge of fucking just like an anxiety attack when I'm walking out and I can't imagine because I've watched you know partners fight um training partners fight and it's crazy but like watching someone you love is like oh my god of it that's fucking

crazy nothing yeah because then you mean you get knocked out fighting you're in there obviously there's a ref so you're the chance of dying aren't very high but there's a possibility you get fucking K-O'd and don't wake up.

Like, there's... Does it ever happen? Not in UFC, I don't think, but, I mean, like, just happened in bare-knuckle boxing not long ago that you don't hear about it too much. Fuck that, dude. My, like, my hand's already swollen as fuck

from just, like, having an actual glove and shit on. Remember when they used to say, like, UFC was, like, more dangerous than boxing and shit when that whole shit was going on? Oh, well, if it was boxing, you're really trying to cancel MMA, right?

Yeah, I think with boxing, you get dropped, and the ref's like, all right, you got eight seconds to be able to fucking be good. Like, in UFC, you get dropped, the ref calls it. Like, imagine that kid

that I dropped in the refs like, all right, you get eight seconds. And I go fucking do that of a kid. It's like, that's some serious fucking brain damage. And yeah, I'd say, yeah, with UFC or, because the gloves are smaller, right? You get knocked out once and then TKO. Yeah, then it's pretty much over.

Yeah, boxing can get back up, get knocked down again. Boxing you get in the head nonstop for fucking 12 rounds every fucking second. Yeah. You have C, you got smaller gloves, right? Yeah, you get smaller gloves. I think they're about, yeah, four ounces. Like, uh, boxing, depending on weight class, like eight, 10, 12 ounces.

Mm-hmm. But also you get, fucking chin to the dome too. Is your jaw have been tested yet? I've been not really too hard in a fight

but I've been rocked sparring I've been hit pretty hard but you don't want to take too many of those the shots that you're going to eat hard you want to take them if you have to I'm not trying to fucking test my chin in the gym

I believe I'm in good enough shape which is a big part of when you get hit recovering and being okay I trust that I haven't had much brain damage that I can eat a good shot when I need to

but for the most but I'm not you know the way I look at sparring is a lot different than a lot of fighters and that's changed

over the last two or three years you know people will have $50,000 fight of the nights in the gym leading up to a fight

it's not smart you do not want to be taking brain damage you do not want to be having headaches after sparring it's just brutal

and I've had that I've been there I've trained like I've had over 30 fights I've been training for 10 years I've had those

gym wars to where you just like that's how you thought you're supposed to train over the years i've been like okay that's so how do you do it now like do you train like do you spar like 70% or like do you tell the sparring partner yeah yeah for the for the most part you know you have a relationship with your sparring partner it's like hey i'm not trying to knock you out there's guys when you go and spar who are trying to knock you out and and you can get good work that way you get realistic

fucking work that way but it's just like the risk rewards not the same it's not healthy so yeah i pick you know good smart sparring partners that I trust. With that being said, I've knocked people out from sparring, not intentionally. Just the right shot he throws, I throw the same time, it lands perfect.

You know, you drop people, and it happens and I've had legit, like, I've teared up dropping someone, I'm like, fuck, dude, because I know what that means to their career. I'm like, God damn it, I don't want to hurt my sparring partners. We're helping each other. So, but yeah, sparring,

there's so much that goes on a training camp and having good sparring partners is like a big, big aspect of it. Important shit. What are you guys up to? Like after today? You guys are going to fly back to where? Fly back to O.C.

We just came off that. What was it? Three week trip. How was that? We're pretty gas. Dude, I'm sure. It was fun as fuck, though. We got like five to six videos.

Did you get a good amount? Damn. That's fun too. It's like traveling, make a memory. So now you guys are going to go back and just kick it, chill for a little bit? Are you going to get back right on the making videos? Or you're just going to have way for the editing team?

Well, now we got five to six in the band. So now it's sick because we got a little more time to edit them and perfect them so the editors are already on it So what you made like? So like you wake up tomorrow? Are you helping with edits? Like there's like ideas? Or you just let the team kind of? Yeah, tomorrow I'll probably be in the office and stuff and then I'll go they, so we have like six editors. So they'll start chopping it like Jason and a few of the other guys. They'll chop it up and then Austin will come in and he'll like put it all together. We got some good shit on that trip though. We got great shit on the trip or more just. We got some pranks and shit or more just. We got some pranks too, yeah. One of the ones we did was shitting in the pool.

So we got like a fake turd at like a resort and we did it in front of, it's pretty funny. I don't know. You watched it? No, I just remember. Oh, yeah. I don't know how, you guys are so good at those pranks. I don't know, like the one way, the fake girlfriend one, dude. That would have to run that back.

Yeah, that, I enjoyed doing that way. It was really funny. So we put out an ad and we said, we want to prank, we want to prank like someone's parents. So if you want us to prank your parents, like, Salim and me will pretend to be your boyfriend. And then we basically, like, pretended to be thugs. Well, you were just going off about liberals. And then I had some, like, hardcore Trump people.

So right when they walked in the door, I asked them if they had Vax cards. That was funny. That was fucking cold. Yeah, I told you at the after party. Tim and I, we went all the way back to the full, the Nelkev and YouTube, like, eight years ago. We were watching, like, the old shit.

I know. The old shit's great. That's so good, though. But, like, it's just funny. the like there were short videos and they were like it's funny to see where the idea started and now where it's at it was it was fucking cool to see it when you got a great idea it's a it's exciting you want to do it right away

yeah I heard you're very impulsive that way what like you have an idea like let's fly here let's go film it like fucking gas on the trying to book flights and shit yeah this shit is crazy this whole thing too like you even come here yeah it's a different fucking city it's great though it's absolutely not it's great yeah you guys fucking grind the pods it's fucking cool to see it's a full-time job dude yeah

It literally is full time, but it's very enjoyable. Full time, full time, full sign, always. Fucking Gabe doing his work, him and Steinie's beef. Love that. Yeah. Bro, Steinie's fucking funny. He is the funniest guy. And I can do it.

Like, he's funny as fuck. He's really good. He's funny too, yeah, on the pod. I remember at the after party, Steve said he'll give me $100K, like fuck his sister. He said you'd throw 100 bid in on it. I would really, really debate it on it. I was like, damn. Fuck Steinie's sister?

You ever tried to, you ever better? No, I never did. I just had a normal relationship with her. She was cool. Rachel, I'm hi, I'm sorry. Rachel was, Rachel's cool shit. He's the cockiest little fucker though on the planet. Like, you know how he's, the best.

I love it. I know Stey from me. But if you take his chain off, I guarantee a fucking 16-year-old Stiney comes back. He's just like. I first met Stiney when I hired him, right? When I met him at Gold Cafe. He was a little fucking shit.

Not cocky at all. Shit in his pants, pissing his pants, walking up, being like, how you doing? I'd really like an opportunity here. I'd really like an opportunity here. here and I'm like yeah and he like told me all this shit

about his dad he dropped his dad a lot being one of the best defense attorneys in the country and all that and he's like I ran a poker game I'm like yeah you're hired all right so he just stuck with me his first job was to get me an Adderall at 1230 at night and he completed it

and fucking ever since then now he's fucking Eminem yeah with you guys chains on and fucking hanging with whoever the fuck it is bro that's funny yeah Steinie's yeah he's a cool guy it's sweet seeing all you guys at the fights you weren't at the fight

Yeah, I have to golf I respect that fucking 7.30 at night fucking hitting the scene That's what you know you're upset He went snowboarding though UFC shit I went to fucking golf

The next day But yeah I know I'm sorry I want to come to I want to come to another You gotta apologize me You missed

You missed it I wish you missed it I was there I just didn't see my clubs man I honestly I have I have that You know that's a good obsession I have

You got a show too Right you have a podcast Yeah the Timbo Sugar show I don't know where Timbo Tim went we've been doing that for a couple years. Tim got the Tuggy H.A. Yeah, Tim had... Well, I saw Tim at the fucking coffee shop.

I'm like, what are you doing here? He's like, God, I'm about to hit a tuggy. But I was like, let's just go get a burrito. So he's there. But yeah, me and my brother have the Bro Malley show. So we do two shows, one a week on both of them. Just fucking sit down. Bro Malley show.

Yeah, just sit down bullshit about... You know, I mean, my audience is mostly about fights. We talk a lot about fights. Fucking Tuggies and here and there. Did you ever do like a vlog? I drop blogs every once in a while. mine are for the ones that do good for me

are just like when I'm at home with Danny and Elena and I'm fucking I feel like that could do that would be sick yeah they're pretty good they're pretty good like they're fun to make

they're not they're not hard they're nothing crazy they're not you know she's not there's not that a lot that goes into it's mostly just the recording and fucking

putting it together but I just can't imagine having a camera in your face 24 seven that would drive me fucking nuts like you guys always are shooting

shooting shooting I just can't is that something you're fucking filming all the time yeah but I'm quick i'm just like i'm zapped boom i think it's dope to have a vlog when you're not really like focusing on like trying to get stuff like he's just like yo this is me like we're doing this this

whatever comes out of it exactly like go to the bathroom i go like take a piss i walk out like fucking it's a camera right here we're like how's your day i'm like how's your piss you know so is that something though you think that because these guys love it's part of their business and what is that something you could ever you would want ever yeah i'd like everything for me it's like i recorded what i want to like and i don't have like with the podcast an hour his is an hour so that's two hours a week there's a camera in front of me and then sometimes i'll fucking do a vlog so it's the camera's not really on me too much unless it's like getting close to a fight then the ESPN will come out UFC will come out monster will come out

and then it's like quite a bit of recording but it's during in those moments it's like for me it's business is i'm working so it's i enjoy when the camera is on me i enjoy it also i stream like two or three hours every day and like the camera's on me there and uh so i i like when the cameras on. I mean, so, you know, business is being made. What do you stream right now? I've been playing so much Call of Duty lately. Is the new cod good? I played my fucking thumb from the fights still swollen. So I tried playing yesterday and it was just it hurt too bad. I played like two games. The new maps kind of dog shit. Um, been playing a lot of Madden actually. Probably the last two months, been playing a lot of Madden. You guys fuck with Madden

much? I used to, I used to shred Cobb. I feel like the last one I played was MW3. Two Ks don't. I don't know if you ever play two care. So you guys don't, you guys don't, you guys don't game at all? Any of you guys anymore? I used to like, like, I have days on MW2 and shit. I remember looking at that, how many hours you'd have played, it'd be like, fucking 32 days. All I wanted to do is just drop nukes. I didn't care about anything else, but

drop in Nukes. Noob, tube one man army or no? I was a big tag knife guy. A tag knife guy. Marathon, lightweight commando. With the attack insertion, too. Just put it in the spawn and then just boom, boom, boom, boom. Do the tack insurers. Get the hairier, fuck off. Oh, yeah. Get the chopper gun, boom, boom, boom, boom, nuke, done.

Really? Never played Call a Play Cloud of Duty, no. Damn, I've never heard someone say that. I used to play basketball all the time, so I just play 2K all day. Dude, ball's fucking fun. Basketball is amazing. I miss actually bawling. Like, I would love to have, like, a, like, one of those leagues out of gym.

Stine thinks he's fucking great at ball. Dude, everyone I've ever met. Someone thinks they're good at basketball. It's like. I'm fucking ass at ball. Yeah? Oh, basketball is amazing, man. Football?

You guys watch football much? A little bit. I guess Canada? I guess Canada, you don't really watch the NFL, right, growing up? a lot of people do. I didn't really too much watch, like mostly hockey, but... Oh, hockey, yeah. I never really got into hockey. You watch football? Football is the best

all day. Me? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I just golf all day. Just fucking... I don't really, yeah. So do you, uh, man, golf is just like a hard one for me to watch, probably because I'm not never done it. It's like Cod, it's like watching Cod if you don't play Cod. Yeah, like, if you play golf, then you're just like more... What do you love so much about it? That it just brings you to the moment and it's something to get better out or do you just

can't put a... Therapeutic, right? Therapeutic, and it's I like how technical it is like you can never be perfect at the game so it's like trying to achieve perfection but obviously you know I know I'm never going to be perfect like you know but just trying to get better like because I mean the best players always can get better right? Always.

The best players could. I love your determination I'm saying what's your handicap now though. I don't even deal. I don't even know what the hell that is but yeah. You're still in the beginning stage. Are we going to play soon? If you're getting that good you're playing a lot of golf. Well no Kyle wasn't playing good that I mean if he was playing. Yeah if he was playing good. But that's part of golf is playing good.

to beat him. It's pretty impressive. I mean, I should have seen me. Like, I must have shot like 1.15. Oh, okay. I was, I was hitting green. Like, if it's a part four, I was hitting green. I think you have some bad days. If you played like that, he might be able to beat you. But on that bad day, I just check out. Like, I'll come back in. If you golf seven days a week, how many good days you're going to have?

You think? Like, good, good day? Like, do you have more bad days than good days? Yeah. For sure. Do you ever think that, like, when you wake up in the morning, do you have, do you have like a routine? Like, okay, I'm going to fucking have a solid day day on the field or on the on the on the course yeah usually when i wake up really early wake up early do what do you do do a certain anything like a little meditation

to get you mind i just go to the go to the range literally with no one there and you guys do do anything meditation no i've tried just can't do it do you do it dude i've been doing it for years really every single morning and it's probably the most powerful thing i've ever started that and ice bath so what does that consist of like meditating there's so many different ways you can meditate there's apps you mean you could literally type in i and i do this a lot 10 minute meditation on YouTube and it's just quieting your mind and starting for in planning for a good day so what it like what do you do like close your eyes and like take deep breasts I go out you there's guided meditations where they're there's like okay nasal breathe into your belly and it's

there's mantras there's so many different things I like to go outside 10 minutes is all it takes but it's it's a powerful 10 minutes if you can fucking get your mind in control and and so you start your day like that I start my day like that before I do anything wake up just wake up I want to try it. And it's something, the thing is, you could try it one time. I don't feel anything two times. It's a consistency that you have to do over time. And it's the number one thing that I'm happy that I've did in my life is being consistent with the meditation.

You literally do it every day? Every day journaling something I really like to do. I'm not a writer. I'm not a fucking, I don't like writing. But journaling my thoughts, I do that either in the morning or at night, one of the two. It's pretty cool because now I have like three or four full journals. back from like 2017 before I was in the USC like reading them back on like

whatever day to day is in 2017 like seeing what I was doing I write down what I'm going to do for the day and shit like that it's pretty cool but I also find that like therapeutic and stuff but therapy like when you love something it's like that's my meditation I feel like yeah I feel like for me too doing jiu-jitsu

and stuff like that's a meditation for me but I also think what separates the good from the great is the mind and I feel like I mean and to be able to control your mind and have thoughts that you want to have, I can't afford a bad day in the cage. I have to show up. I have to show up Saturday. I have the confidence like every day before I play. I'm like, I'm going to play my best

round. But because I just started like I got to like really, I got to know everything about the game. I would just suggest looking up doing a 10 minute meditation. There's, I mean, you could look up the different meditations. There's meditation where you're completely quieting your mind and literally just following your breath. You're not listening to a guided. meditation or a mantra or anything and then there's meditation where there's mantras and you're there's a couple different ones that you could maybe find that you like more than the others but if you just do it 10 minutes even if you say okay I'm just going to do it for five days and just start there uh I guarantee you if you stay with it it will benefit your life

tremendously 100% I'm gonna start tomorrow you need to meditate I know we all do I need to it helps the sleep helps with anxiety start meditating tomorrow the problem is when you're when you close your eyes and you're doing those deep breaths and you're clearing your mind What happened is like shit just pops in. Like shit just pops in. That's good. That's what meditation is. If it's popping in and you're observing it, and then you let it go and then it doesn't go away.

You're like, fuck, it's not going away. And then your 10 minutes is up. And you're like, oh, that wasn't that good. But it was good. If you were sat there and observed those thoughts and you, just doing the 10 minutes, even if you suck, even if all 10 minutes is you thinking, it's like that's a good fucking start.

You're not going to sit there and be good at it. I've been doing it for years. And I'm not going to go sit there in 10 minutes. Clear my mind 100%. Are you thinking about negative things or positive things? you think what depends what meditation you're doing after you're doing like a mantra what's a mantra is like for me this whole fight camp like kind of something i would like to say in my head to get me out of my thoughts is like too sharp too fast too focus too sharp too fast too focus i'm

not thinking about fuck what happens if he kicks me here what happens if he takes me down i'm thinking too sharp too fast too focus that's what's going through my fucking mind walking out that's all i was saying too sharp too fast too focus when i was in the cage there's probably you probably see my lip i'm like too sharp too fast too focus that's a mantra that's not letting me lose control of my thoughts I'm not thinking oh my god what the fuck look at how many people are like I'm thinking too sharp too fast you're I'm dialed the fuck in

and it's like that's like for a morning mantra you know you probably would be saying that I'd be like I'm gonna have a fucking good day today little things like that but uh yeah you guys definitely just at least try it I might use those exact same word what were they again too sharp too fast too focused baby that's all I'm waking up tomorrow

that's just fucking shadow boxer in the first thing the morning that's a good little slogan on it you guys ever getting cold plunge Yeah, I can't do it for like 10 seconds What cold, what is that? I have a cold bath I can do a cold bath I could do a cold pludge You go to cold water

You plunge in water You just gotta For me if I did it once And I just like just I was like Shut my eyes and just like deal with it Coal punches are tough I have a nice ass one at my house Every in fight camp three minutes

It was 40 degrees three minutes every night And it's a mother fucker You feel incredible after a cold pump And you just get right in the hot tub Yeah 22 minutes No I do the hot tub and then I do cold plunge.

The Rogan doing 20 minutes is fucking borderline insane. Actually, it's probably on the other side of insane. That's, I don't... He did it for 20? Dude, it was insane. You watched that. That was just...

Yeah, he was... Oh, I've seen that video on Instagram? Dude, like, 20 minutes, I'm pretty mentally fucking sharp and fucking pretty mentally strong. 20 minutes would be fucking... Like, I would have to be paid. Probably to do that.

Like, I wouldn't do that on my own will. Right, right, right. Right, right. Like three minutes. Fuck that. Three minutes is good. But, but.

Yeah, boys. I think we're good, right? What do you guys think? That's great. I loved it. I'd love to do some pranks with you one day. Let's do it. Yeah,

I was going to say if you guys, if you guys want to see us do a prank with Sean, let's fucking, let's think of something. Let's have them do the girlfriend one. Do what? Do the girlfriend one? Oh my God, dude.

You think you could pull that off? I feel like you could. Dude, I think so, too. I would have to be. Oh, my God. You should do like, you fucking. No, no, no, but like, if we do the drug thing again, like, he can also be one of the guys that pulls up.

He should do a black family. He could come knock on the door and... Or he could be like, oh, bug, man. I'll get my ass just beat down. No, no, I just think it'd be hilarious. You just knock out the dad, make him shit in his own house. I'd like that. Oh, my God, dude, I would be so...

I'd have a fucking heart attack. I would try. I'd fucking attempt it. Let us know if you guys want to see that. Yeah, I would love to see it. You should have him, like, go up to different dudes and be like, you really fuck my... Like, he really fucked a girl.

Like, he was his girl or something like that. God, I'm not good at confrontation like that. I would struggle, but I would attempt it. Maybe the comments will have, like, good idea, something they could see. I say we get you to meet the parents, or meet the parents, too. That's a great one. We should at least get a batty and let me smash. Yeah, fuck it.

It would be worth it. Bring a biscuit. All right, boys. We'll see you guys next Wednesday. Love it. All good. Let's go. Great pod.

Let's go. This is dope.