FULL SEND PODCAST - Terence Crawford | Ep. 166

Episode Date: September 4, 2025

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all right guys welcome to another episode of the full send podcast we got a big one today we got Terrence Bud Crawford in his hometown, Omaha, Nebraska, at the B&B gym. I want to start by reading off all these accolades. There's too many to remember, so I got to read them off. Number one pound-for-pound boxer in the world, first man ever to become undisputed in two-weight divisions, four-division world champion, two-time fighter of the year, and ahead of the super fight with Canello. That's some crazy-ass accolades.

So what made you sought after this fight with Canello? Canelo is a great fighter. You know, he's respected. I'm a fan of Canello, and like I said before, Conello is the last of the great fighters that's available to fight. Canelo's at 168. It's a big task, but I'm always up for big risk, big reward. And I want to be the first ever boxer to be a three-weight, undisputed world champion.

Talk to me about, like, the business of this fight, because it's live on Netflix. is your first time fighting on Netflix? Right. How does this fight come together as opposed to like typical fights that you've had in the past? Well, it's all the same.

You know, at the end of the day, you got the promotion, you got the network coming out and they shooting you and they, they're promoting the fight. It's just, you know, on a different network.

So like Netflix doesn't approach you with like, like, we want you to fight on Netflix and then you find an opponent? No, no, no, no. It wasn't, it wasn't like, that it was you know me going to turkey out of sheik and letting him know that i was serious about you know being interested in fighting canello and him and a lot of people at first they was like

nah he's too big you need to you know focus on your weight class and things like that but at the time i'm like well there's no one at my weight class that's on that level of canello you know Conello come from a smaller weight class. He's not a massive fighter. You know, he's not six foot tall. He's, you know, he's thick, but he's not, you know, this giant. So, you know, picking Conello was a thing that we looked deeply into at the time. How much is he changing the sport, Turkey, on the business side? All he's changing their sport, you know, in a crazy way because if you notice before Turkey came on a scene, none of these fights was getting made. He's making all the fights that the fans want to see, all the big fights, you know, they're happening with him. They're not happening with nobody else. When you look at, you know, Beavall, Better Beav, that wouldn't happen.

When you look at Usik versus Fury, that wouldn't happen. There's so many fights that, you know, wouldn't happen because of financial reasons and the pay-per-view piracy is took over the sport of boxing. So, yeah, he come in and he got to check to pay the fighters to actually get in the ring. So he changed it in a dynamic way. What business skills do you think he possesses, obviously, besides, you know, bringing the financial side of it to play? He's fair, but at the same time, he's a fan of the sport, you know, so he wants to see the sport, you know, rise. You know, he's not just in it for, you know, money and greed like some other promoters and some other people that get into boxing. You know, there's a lot of times, you know, where he's losing money, but he's losing money because he loves the sport and he want to see the sport get to the level of where it used to be back in the days where, you know, football, basketball came under the sport of boxing.

I'm good friends with Dana White, too. What does it mean to have him promoting this fight? It's new. You know, this is first time promoting a boxing event, but Dana's a great promoter. As we all have seen in the years before us, you know, I think it's a good thing. You know, you're seeing a lot of crossover between UFC and boxing and things like that. And I think if we all can collectively support one another and UFC boxing, we can make combat sports bigger than it ever been. You think boxing as a whole, business-wise, is headed to this kind of behind a paywall method, like a net flow.

or you saw the UFC's new deal with Paramount Plus that's behind now like it's on a streaming service do you think the pay-per-view days as a whole is almost done yeah for sure you know I think it's this is really about to be over with you know because like I said you know so many people is still in the fights it's kind of like back in the days when um people started burning CDs yeah and on like lime wire and the artists couldn't do you ever use that lime wire nah but you just none of it I don't have no computer Oh, shit. So it's like...

So it's like, you know... But you're right, it all went to streaming. Yeah. It all went to streaming. So I think it's better for the fighters as well, you know, to be fighting on apps where you don't have to pay or regular TV where you don't have to pay to see these fighters fight because if you remember back in the days, boxing was on regular TV, you know? So the more viewers you can have on a sport of boxing, the more, you know, boxing rises where you look at any other sport, top sport, it's on regular TV. That way everyone can see it. Yeah. When you watch football, when you watch basketball, when you watch soccer, you know, you always see these sports on regular cable or regular TV or ESPN all the time.

The more views and people that take an interest in this sport will make the sports grow. Does it get you excited to be fighting on Netflix? Like, I feel like there's no bigger platform than that, right? This has to be your most view. This is going to be your most watch live fight. Yeah, for sure. Netflix is a huge platform and I'm looking forward to it. I'm really looking forward to it.

I was on, you know, HBO when HBO was, you know, at the top, ESPN, I'm just looking forward to seeing the next move. What's your secret been to moving up in weight divisions all these years? There's no secret. There's just hard work, you know, just working, get my body prepared to move up and things like that. A lot of people think it's a secret to it, but it's not, you know. Being a boxer all my life and having to cut weight my whole life is

You know, difficult, but being able to just fight at your natural weight and, you know, eat properly and train how you want to train without having to hold back because you're like, oh, I want to put on too much muscle. I got to watch this because I got to make weight and not having to have those worries, you know, is all that I ever had to do. One thing that's different about you than other champs is, obviously, other people grew up in their hometown and they moved to Vegas or they moved to L.A., but one thing that's super cool about you is you've chosen to just stay in your hometown. What do you think is the main reason for that? Why should I have to leave? You know, somebody made Vegas a high bed for boxing. Somebody made California a high bed for boxing. It's not where you go.

It's the work you put in, you know, and a lot of people always told me, well, you're not. You got to go here, you got to go there, you got to go there. Like, no, I don't. You know, I'm from Omaha, Nebraska. I don't got to go anywhere. They can come to me, you know, and that's fucking that. When were people trying to get you to move out there, like earlier on in your career? Earlier in my career, middle of my career, and I just-

To what? Just, like, train with people? Yeah, they wanted me to train. They wanted me to live out there, the whole nine, you know. Some wanted me to change coaches because they said, well them coaches brought you this far they're not known for the professional level so you need to get with a coach that's more notable that's more you know season and that's been there before all that don't matter if you believe in your team if you got a great team around you you don't

have to change nothing up you don't have to go to another team because at the end of day like I said, somebody believed in that coach before he was this coach that took a couple of fighters to the next level. You just got to believe in your team and know that you're in the right place because they're the one that's going to, you know, have your back through it all. I know you opened up this gym with your coach in 2013, right? How long have you been training with your coach, though? Since I started boxing. Which is like... 30 years. God damn. That's crazy. Was there any ever not that you want to switch up on your coach but was there ever any temptation in your mind when people are saying like ever and i'm sure when you started getting famous like it might

have been tempting to live in a different place how did you what kept you like my loyalty you know um even when i was in the amateurs and i would go work out at the o tc when i go work out with different coaches and things like that me and bo mac we'll always have conversations we'll always talk and he will always just tell me, you know, learn all you can learn. He was like, I don't know at all, but learn all you can learn. And, you know, any exercises that you learn out there, bring it back, and we can use it. And if not, then, you know, at least you know it. So we always just talk amongst each other and I tell them what I learn.

And he'd be like, oh, that's good shit, you know. Let's utilize that, you know, and things like that. And so we always had that chemistry, no matter. Where I was at in the world Me and him was always talking That's fucking cool I saw after you beat Errol Spence Jr. The victory parade

The videos of that are fucking crazy It's like 20,000 people That's gotta feel amazing Yeah that was That makes me happy even just like watching it Just knowing your story how you like stayed here Yeah And your whole hometown like comes out for you when you win

That was crazy That was a crazy feeling To see all the support That came out You know, a parade dedicated just to you, you know, it made me feel appreciated, you know, for sure, you know, and let me know that my city is riding behind me. So with the Canelo fight, do you think this is going to define your legacy? Is this like a big moment, or is your legacy already what it is now? It's definitely a big moment in my career. This is a fight where, you know, people will be looked at me well looking at me as one of the all-time

greats to ever do it you know this is this is a one of the biggest if I would say this is the biggest fight of my career the Errol Spence Jr. one what was in your head when you knocked him down a lot of nothing really you know every believe it or not every time I ever knock somebody down or came by surprise because It wasn't like I was looking for the knockdown. It was just a shock. Like, boom, boom. And like, oh, all right, you know what I mean?

So you never got a knockdown. You're like, I knew that was coming. No, I got knockouts and knew it was coming. But a knockdown, you know, that's the beginning of the end. You know, it comes as a shock. But then in your mind, you're like, all right, well, I know this person can't take that. Who's hit you the hardest, you think? Got to be gamble.

He just, like, hits like a truck. No, it wasn't that. It's just that he caught me off guard coming in with my hands down, being cocky, things like that. And he just, you know, caught me to where, you know, my whole one side of my body got stiff. So it was just like, boom, he shocked me. And I'm like, bang. You know, I'll look, all right, now I got to get him out of there. What's your favorite performance of the ring in the ring or one you're most proud of?

I got a lot. You know, I can't just say. Like three of them or something. The Ricky Burns was one of my proudest moments. Dan Gondongo was one of my proudest moments. Daryl Spence was one of my proudest moments. So even the Victor Postal. So yeah, I got a lot of, you know, proud moments in there.

Speaking of Dana White, too, do you watch any UFC at all? Yeah, for sure. Yeah. Who's some fighters you fuck with in the UFC? John Jones is my boy, man. You guys have a personal relationship? Yeah, we cool. we inbox and talk here and there, but, you know, I just, you know, benefiting him from jump.

You know, I like Kibb, you know, Khabi, but... He's got the crazy mindset, right? Yeah, my boy, Mersaad, he used to be in the UFC, you know. It's a lot of fighters, Aljo. We were just with Aljo the other day. Yeah, it's a lot of them. Who do you watch in the UFC that you think has the best boxing? My guy, what's in that?

You've seen Tuporius? Cody Garberant? Yeah, he the best. UFC boxer. Have you seen Toporia? Have you seen his fights recently? Yeah, but I don't know, man. Cody got them hands.

Not, but he, Cody's not, like, I'm not shitting on him, but he's not on the... But I'm saying, we're talking about straight boxing. Straight boxing? Yeah, we ain't talking about nothing else. We're talking about straight boxing skills. I just think Cody got the best boxing skills, you know, and UFC. That's just my opinion. So you think if there was one UFC fighter that would have any chance against you in the world, it'd be him?

No. But he's too little. He wouldn't have a chance at all. No, he's too small. In the boxing room? No. Do you think they'll ever be another huge UFC crossover boxing, like McGregor Mayweather? Yeah, for sure.

You know, nothing's new under the son. You know, if it's done once, it can be done again. You know, it started with Muhammad Ali, you know. He did the crossover. Mike Tyson crossover, you know. All these. Mayweather, they do crossovers at a point where their career is, you know, either over or going down. There will be another UFC megastar.

There will be another boxing megastar. And so happily, if they around the same way, is going to happen when the right time is right. But to say, you know, it's not, it's not, you know, impossible. How do you see this fight with Canello going? I'm definitely going to win the fight for sure, but, you know, I think it's going to be a tough fight. You know, I think he's going to bring the best out of me. I'm going to bring the best out of him, and it's going to be an exciting fight. Do you guys have any bad blood at all, or is it all business?

It's just business, you know, I want what he got. You know, and that's them belts and that's them, that undisputed title. And that's, that's it. You know, it ain't personal. It's just, you know, he got something that I want. this. I mean, this is so big. Does it get bigger than this? Not at all. This is the biggest fighting boxing. The biggest fight in boxing. No other fight in boxing today is on the level of Terrence Crawford and Canello-Avers. What do you see for yourself after this fight? How long do you

want to be in a sport? How long do you want to be actively fighting? I don't know, you know. It's not something you think about. You're just going to fight by fight. I always take one fight at a time, you know, one fight at a time. I feel great. I'm healthy. And like I said, I'm looking forward to having some fun come September 13th. And this fight's, I think it's the first fight at Allegiant Stadium, right? 40,000 people? I think we're going to do a little more tonight. A little more?

Yeah. You're going to squeeze them in? They're going to do 70. 70? Could be possible. Holy shit. What was like the biggest arena you fought in? How many people?

It had to be Lincoln, Nebraska. I think that was like 17,000. Now it's going to 70? That's crazy. Yeah. That's good. Does that like excite you fighting in a stadium with that many people? You don't notice it because you're in the, you're in the ring, so, you know, but it kind of, it kind of, it's kind of crazy because when I went to WrestleMania, I got to go to Allegiance Stadium and, and view and witness the crowd and things like that and just to look up. And shit's big.

Yeah, look up and look around and just, you know, think to yourself. Like, this is going to be me fighting. and all these people surrounding me and whatnot. And I was just like, man, it kind of sends chills through your body at that time. That's sick. Yeah. Does this whole fight, like, the lead up to it, feel different? Does the camp feel different?

Does it all just feel the same? To me, it all feel the same, even though it's not the same. We put the work in every camp, no matter what, you know, is grind time. We know this fight is different. This is, you know, a legacy fight. But at the same time, the work is work. Also, guys, really quick, we have a ton of new full send golf stuff on fullsen.com. I'm rocking this sexy one right here, the Happy Dad Polo.

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You're a family, man. You're so focused. You're dialed on your craft. Do you have any vices? Like, anything that tempts you? Or, like, what do you like to do when you're not training? I'm real chill when I'm not training. You know, I'm more family-oriented. I chill at my mom house.

I go play basketball. at the YMCA with my nephew and a couple of friends I go fishing um I'm real chill you know I don't drink I don't smoke I don't party really you've never drank or smoked right I don't do none of that that's crazy so I'm I'm just real chill lay back what do you think never made you like drink or smoke ever your body is your temple you know and um looking at my family members that had addiction to drinking and, you know, smoking, looking at people that were smoking, and I always told myself, what makes people want to be impaired and not know what's going on, or falling all over the place, busting their teeth out, busting their eyes open because

they drunk and they're falling down the stairs and things like that. I never understood, like, why people want to be messed up to where they don't know what's going on around them. So you never, you've never been hung over, too. I never. That's what you don't, that's what you don't ever want to experience. Ever. Fuck being drunk, but hungover?

It's good that you haven't experienced that. Yeah, it's pointless. I just, I just, and then, like, the smell of liquor stinks, like, like, what, what good is it? It, it doesn't, it don't taste good. Like, it can. Well, it depends, yeah, if you're a drinker, but, yeah, that's good. you're dialed. Who do you think wins in a fight? You or prime Floyd? Me. No questions?

Why would you think that I would say Floyd? I don't know. I thought you'd hesitate maybe even a bit, but not. Not at all. You know, that's one of my favorite fighters, you know. But yeah, no. Who's one person or a few people you wish you could have fought in their prime? It's a lot. You know, if I can go back in the history, it'll be Roberto DeVille. ran it'd be Julio Cizor, Chavez, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvin Hagler,

those type of fighters. How about Mike Tyson if he was your size? Mike Tyson was my size. Stylistically. I would beat him. Easy. And Mike Tyson, you know what I mean, is well respected, but

my size, Mike Tyson. I think Mike Tyson beat those guys because you know, hey, he was faster and more explosive than those guys. those heavyways. When you look at Mike Tyson back in the days, he was ferocious. You know, this is speed and power and explosiveness combined. Like, they couldn't keep up with it. Wanted to get your take on the Jake Paul versus Tank Davis. They just announced the fight. What's your instant reaction to that? I don't have no, no reaction, you know?

I don't know what's going to happen with a 135-pounder going up against a 200. hundred pounder, you know, if it's scripted, then it's going to be good for the, for the fans to watch. Would you by scripted, like rigged? Yeah, like scripted. But none of those guys want a fucking L, right? I think it's not a real fight. I think it's a, because it can't be a real fight because they ain't in the same way.

So it'd be more like an exhibition. I think it is an exhibition, but do you think they're like, but not one person saying like, yo, I'm going to fucking throw the match, you think? I don't think. Or you never know. Yeah, I think they're going to go in there and spar. I don't think it's going to be you trying to kill me or I'm trying to kill you. You know, I think it's, let's go in here and make this money.

You know, it's more of a business tactic than anything. Because that's what Jake and Mike kind of did. Yeah, for sure. Like, everyone bought into that. And then when you watched it, it was just like, bro, this sucks. I'm friends with Jake. I like him too, but that fight, I didn't like that one. Jake, Jake too big for, for Tain, you know.

In reality. he's way too big for tank like tank is very talented punch hard explosive a whole nine yards but yeah because some people say jake's fights rigged he's like suing people now that say they're rigged you see that but how could they rig it before because like what if they just say oh we're gonna go soft on each other and then tank just fucking throws it right at jake jake can punch with that right hand like i seen you know i mean up close in person like dude is big he's not as slow as people think he is and he can punch you know that's why a lot of people know like there's those times where you know him and Tyson you know was in the ring he could have like laid it on Tyson but he kind of

like held back you could tell and that's same with Tyson like Tyson could have caught Jake with something and he's just like you know so you you you can see it if you had to choose someone to win that fight who do you think wins honestly I think Jake by by youth Really? Yeah. Dude, Jake's a huge underdog, too. The him and tank? Yeah.

There ain't a winner. It's an exhibition. Do you ever sports bet on fights and watch now? Not a bad. I'm bad at all. Yeah, because Jake's a huge underdog. Jake just, they're just too big. He's too big. If they really go out of it, he's just too big.

Tank ain't going to be able to get in for that job. Jake laying one good punch on Tank. It's over with. Do you think he can hit him, though? Yeah? Yeah. Did you watch when Logan fought Mayweather? It's kind of like that, right?

A little bit. Logan did good. But I think Jake's a lot more experienced than Logan was at that time, right? Yeah. But Floyd kind of pieced Logan up on that fight, right? Logan laying his shots too, though. Yeah. You know, because Logan is longer and taller.

You know, so Floyd had to take some risk, you know, at the same time. But, you know, Floyd experience came into play. You know, he started hitting him a little harder, started touching him to the body. you know start making him work when he don't want to work and you know you start seeing logan start fading he can go right here and then you start going like this and then that's where flor started taking over what do you want your legacy to be like when your career's all said and done what do you want people to remember you for oh man everybody everybody's asking me the question always be like man it's it's whatever they just their opinion everybody going to have a different

opinion of terence crawford you know but one thing they can't say is that I ducked anyone. You know, I fought everyone that was available to fight. And, you know, I'm a family, man. I love my, I love my kids. I love, you know, being an active father. That's my passion. What's the best part about being a dad and the hardest part? This episode is brought to you by Square. You're not just running a restaurant. You're building something big. And Square's there for all of it. customers, more ways to order, whether that's in-person with Square kiosk or online. Instant access to your sales, plus the funding you need to go even bigger.

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it started to fade away and you start looking back like man i remember you used to do this i remember used to do that you know i i remember used to run up to me and give me a kiss now you act like you're too old to kiss your dad and stuff like that so you get the you get to missing those little precious moments uh as they get older but you're appreciated when you know they come back and when they you know doing that the time that you know that it's going to be over with yeah do they watch your fights all the time live all the time yeah are they going to be at the fight too have all seven of them right yeah yeah are any of them training they train but i don't let them No?

Why not? I just don't want them to go through it. Really? You know, I'm doing it so they don't have to do it. Then I couldn't, you know, see myself watching my kids get hurt and I couldn't do nothing about it. You know, and then on top of that, I'm making a sacrifice to put my body, my life on a line for y'all. So y'all don't have to do that. Y'all can go to college, be whatever y'all want to be without getting your head battered and bruised up.

Was it really tough, like throughout your career, like training, like being a boxer and stuff like that? Man, boxing is hard. Boxing is... Yeah, you don't really think about it. People don't see the lows of it probably, right? They only see the knockouts. Yeah, they don't see all the work that you put into the sport. You know, they don't see the politics that plays a big factor in the sport.

You know, all the boxers that got railroaded or got cheated or. Didn't get their fair shape because the promoter had more money invested in to this fighter. You know, it's a lot of shady business that goes on with boxing. But, like, I don't really understand it. What's the, what's like the biggest issue with the business of boxing? Just your fair shape, you know, the opportunities. You know, you can be the number one contender, you know, and you can see these fighters keep jumping you.

And you, like, when I'm going to give my shot at the title, You know, I've been worked this far, but now and I'm right here at the finish line, y'all hold me back telling me, y'all, no, no, you can't cross the finish line yet. You can't, you can't get the opportunity to win yet. You know, he got to go before you. He got to go before you. And you're like, man, politics, or I'm not going to fight you because you are not side of the street. Or, no, no, I'm not going to fight him because he's not, he's not worthy enough.

where he don't have enough followers or his name not as big as him. He's a great fighter, but his name not as big as him. Nobody knows him. So it's a lot of things that goes into boxing. Did that happen to you a lot on your way up? Oh, yeah, of course. Like promoters screwing you and shit?

Or just not believing in you? I would say the opportunities, you know, when I was coming up, when I first started pro, you know, a lot of people didn't want to fight me because I didn't have the money behind and they knew that I had the talent and the skills because I was a top amateur and

it was like well if we don't have to fight them we're not going to fight them for no couple of thousand dollars you know or a couple of hundred dollars we want some money to fight this kid because we putting our fighter in jeopardy in harm's way of losing

and it's a business at the end of the day I'm not about to sell my fighter to this fighter that I don't don't have no ties to, you know, and make him look good and go to the next level, you know, and then my fighter got to go backwards because he took a loss. Earlier in my career, I wasn't getting those fights. And then once I signed with Top Ring, I started fighting more often and things like that. And then the same thing happened when I moved up and waited.

Like I couldn't get those fighters that was at the top. top at the time that I was trying to get them I was trying to get them all you know and it was like oh no you over there we over here and I'm like was it a money issue or people just dodging you it was just people dodging yeah you know promoters been greedy you know and I want to work with each other for whatever reason because they felt as if they have five six fighters over here and you have two fighters over there. We don't got to go over there to fight you. We have a little round robin with these

fighters over here, and I can keep all the money. But if I go over there or you come over here and you take one of my champions out, you go back over there and take the belt. Now what I have. You know, you just came over here and took one of my belts, and now

I'm left with one belt or two belts, whatever. What do you think is the solution to that as a whole? Like I said, Turkey. you know what i mean he making all these promoters work together and i think that would have been the best solution in in the beginning is they all work together and you know uh split the money how it's supposed to be split it and make boxing great you know but when you have greed and and nobody want to share with other promoters everybody like i got these fighters i don't

got to share i got these fighters i don't got to have nobody else come over here you know a lot of promoters was doing that you know if top rank have the 130 pounds pound fighters locked locked in you know they don't got to go across the street or go nowhere else looking for you know i mean top fighters because they have all the top fighters there pbc at one point in time had the top 147 pounders that I have to go nowhere you know because they had the top fighters in that weight division so whatever promoter had the top weight I mean top fighters in that weight class had the power in that way class what was your first like memorable big bag paycheck that you got for a fight that you were like when you got it you're like okay this is like crazy I don't know man

like was there ever a moment when you want a fight and you got the bag and you're like your first kind of check you can't remember I think my, my, my first check that I was, like, excited about was Brady's Prescott. Are you able to say what that was or no? It was only, like, $125,000. And how old were you at that time? 25, 24. Yeah, that's sick.

Yeah, like 24. But it was just like, all right. You know what I mean? Like, that was something that I was, like, real excited about. You weren't? Or you were? I was. Yeah.

I mean, that's a lot of money. But then, like, going up, you know, it was just like, oh, they're going to take all these taxes out. It's all good. You know, you think you're making all this money. And once the taxes, and you start paying everybody, you be like, damn. You remember the first time you found out why he had to pay in taxes? I always paid taxes. Yeah.

Well, the first time, like, I started to make decent money. And then I had to, like, we were living in California, too. So I had to pretty much give up, like, fucking 50%. Yeah. That's when you really realize, like, bro, yeah, you got to, this is not your money yet. Yeah, yeah, you'd be like, in your mind, you'd be like, man, I'm making a million dollars. But pretty much say goodbye to like... Yeah, like half of it.

Yeah. And then you'd be like, damn, all right. Yeah, I got to make more money because that ain't no money. And then the first time I, like, spent it before I had it. So I was like, oh, shit, I don't even have the money to fucking, you know what I mean? Yeah, yeah. That's what fucks you at the beginning. Yeah, so it's crazy.

When you say you wouldn't want your kids to be boxers, like, what challenges that you face that would, like, not make you want them to be in the sport? I don't have any challenges, but the discipline and the hard work that you got to put it in the boxing. It's yearly around, like, you got to grind, grind, grind, grind, grind. Basically, you can't have a childhood or a life until I had their boxing. your whole world is surrounded around boxing your stress level like just everything

so do you enjoy it like as a whole have you enjoyed being a boxer would you say it's kind of a sacrifice I enjoy it because I know what I'm doing it for I know my purpose I know my why you know

some people just do it for the money and then you see how far they go you know but I know my calling was this you know and I enjoy every bit of it but not to say that my kids is going to enjoy it because they're not me you know they have parts of me but they're not going to make the sacrifices

that that I made because they don't have to they live a healthy life you know they don't have the the traumas and the things that to fight for like I did they got everything right so you know um but that being said they don't have to grind like i used to what's been your key to like staying so disciplined and what's some keys for people to just practice like that art of discipline well i look at i look at all the fighters before me i look up to floyd and in the and in a real big way when it comes to discipline you know you'll see floyd he'll go out to the clubs and he'll hang out and everybody would be like oh man flooring the club but then he had run from the club you know eight miles home you know he'll work out at

two three five o'clock in the morning you know he was always working he was always doing something like you know perfecting his craft no matter what you know not smoking not drinking not nothing you know and i look at all the other fighters that was partying drinking and and and not taking their craft serious when they wasn't boxing and they all went they caught up to them they always catch up to them

you know and I just always said I'm not going to be those guys I'm not going to be that guy that spend all his money and be at the top of his game and you know you see him 10 20 years later he don't have a

apothepice and he's you know on the streets and you don't even notice him because you know he's unrecognizable and you're like damn man i remember this guy was a great world champion he was one of the best fighters in the world but he don't have nothing to show for him uh so i always looked at uh the guys that came before me to uh know what to do or what not to do yeah learning what not to do right was there ever a moment in your career when you started becoming famous or something where you started to like stray away from the discipline and you like...

No, never. Never. You've just been... Yeah, dialed in. Diled in. Because I already know, you know, there's going to be times where... That's a gift to, like, naturally possessed, though, right? There's going to be times where distractions is always going to, you know, jump at you. You know, but it's up to you to decide if you want to let it distract you or keep, you know, your eyes on the nerve. What would you say to people that are trying to achieve a goal, whether it be sports,

or just anything they're trying to achieve to stay locked in you know stay locked in stay focused you know on season off season stay focused because it's it's easy to you know uh slip it's easy you know it feels good when temptation is up in front of you and you're like oh i can do this i'll be all right and then you find yourself like oh this ain't going to hurt just little thing you ain't going to hurt yeah then you find yourself like oh this ain't going to hurt yeah then you find stuff like, damn, it's a month past, you know, and I'm 200 pounds, or I'm fucking out of shape, or I've been drinking for a month straight, you know, I've been partying, and somebody got to wake you up. You got to have some sort of ice. You like fast food or something? Do you like, no cheat meals?

Not during camp, but... Candy. I like candy. During camp? Yeah, I eat candy. What's your go-to candy? I like gummies. What kind? Like gummy worms, gummy bears. The sour gummy worms? Yeah, those are fire. Yeah. So what? You can have those during camp?

Yeah. Have a pop here and there? How about fast food? No, I like going to a restaurant. So I'd rather go to a restaurant instead of fast food. What's like a cheat meal at a restaurant you'd get? I don't eat beef or pork, so. Okay.

It really ain't no cheap meal. No, like mac and cheese or greasy. That's cool. That's fine? Yeah, because you're spending, you're burning so many calories, right? Yeah, so I don't look at that as a cheese. meat meal, mac and cheese and stuff like that, even though, you know, I don't eat it too often. That's the only thing you can't give up.

Gummy worms and pot. Besides that, you're the dial king. Yeah, I'm the dial king. Hell yeah. Nobody perfect. We all have her little. Gummy worms is fine. Yeah.

Yeah, gummy worms is cool. Candy. But I didn't cut back so much on candy and junk food and things like that. Were you getting out of control with the candy? I just always been out of control. Since I was a little kid, I just always. ate, you know, candy, little dabbies, cakes, sweets, you know, and... Desserts?

Yeah, all that. What's your favorite dessert? Apple pie. With vanilla ice cream? No, no. No. You don't do vanilla ice cream with apple pie? That's too much.

That's fire. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay. All right, well, we don't want to take up too much your time. Cheesecakes fire. Yeah. Yeah, I don't want to take up too much your time. I know you got a big camp, but we'll be watching September 13th, live on Netflix.

Appreciate it. Crawford versus Canello. It's going to be big. We're fired up. That's right. Thank you, brother. Appreciate you having us here, too. Oh, yeah, definitely, man. I appreciate y'all coming. Thank you, bro.